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Speaker 1: What about going against kind of this first team defense

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Speaker 1: and some of the players they have there.

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Speaker 2: What kind of challenge is that the Obviously it's just

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Speaker 2: right off the bat, you understand that you're not in

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Speaker 2: college anymore, so techniques definitely got to be improved when

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Speaker 2: you're going against a more experienced guys. So I said,

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Speaker 2: that's the biggest thing for me, is just honing in

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Speaker 2: on that and trying to trying to get better. There

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Speaker 2: anything surprised you from NFL training camps, I wouldn't say

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Speaker 2: anything surprised me. I'd just say it's it's all a

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Speaker 2: learning experience. Obviously, it's it's a lot of work, but

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Speaker 2: it's it's kind of what you expect. The only thing

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Speaker 2: is just trying to get your routine down, like coach says,

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Speaker 2: and is trying to stick to it.

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Speaker 1: M H. How helpful was it to get familiar with

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Speaker 1: the coaching staff at the Shrine Bowl and then be

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Speaker 1: able to come to your and be able to work.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was definitely awesome. I mean I

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Speaker 2: had a really good experience out in Vegas and I

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Speaker 2: you know, it was a good exposure for me. And

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Speaker 2: then also working with the Patriot kind of understanding how

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Speaker 2: NFL coaching staff works, and then just to end up

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Speaker 2: year as well. You know, I just felt comfortable already

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Speaker 2: coming in. Did you kind of feel a step ahead

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Speaker 2: because of that? I wouldn't say I felt like a

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Speaker 2: step ahead, but I felt comfortable knowing the coaches and

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Speaker 2: how they would approach things, and comfortable in a way

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Speaker 2: like I knew kind of what to expect from you know,

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Speaker 2: Billy's because I had him there at the East West. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and just you know, in.

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Speaker 1: General, it's helpful to have a guy like Mike went

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Speaker 1: in kind of plays a similar style as you and

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Speaker 1: similar body type like always tau or he picked his

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Speaker 1: brain at all.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, most definitely, not just him, I mean the

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Speaker 2: whole entire old line. There's a lot of knowledge over there,

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Speaker 2: a lot of experience, and you know, kind of just

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Speaker 2: trying to pick their brains in it. And uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: whatever coaching tips say they give me, I'm trying to

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Speaker 2: you know, apply it out there during team.

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, where do you feel like your biggest area

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Speaker 1: of growth? But from day one a camp now, you know.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't say specifically one specific area. I just say

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to get better in all aspects every day,

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Speaker 2: you know, and I never try to think too much

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Speaker 2: on you know, what's my weakest part of my strongest part.

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Speaker 2: I'm just kind of just trying to get better in

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Speaker 2: all aspects and listening to the coaches.

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Speaker 1: The parts of your experience is a defensive one of

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Speaker 1: help decide.

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Speaker 2: I just understanding of how defensive linemen want to play,

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Speaker 2: my blocks play offensive blocks, how they want to shed it,

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Speaker 2: how you know what they're reading, you know, shoulder and

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Speaker 2: hand wise. So I'm saying with that experience, understanding how

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Speaker 2: a D line, you know, I kind of want to

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Speaker 2: use that the advantage. So yeah, and then that.

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Speaker 1: Will checking Adrian Clem both mentioned well coaches.

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Speaker 2: But as you see it like I've seen and you

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Speaker 2: a well coach, you see, like what things would you

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Speaker 2: say with your biggest points.

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Speaker 1: Of every six and now that you're in the professionals with.

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Speaker 2: Chip Kelly, now you're big claim what did you want

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Speaker 2: to work on the most list though? Just technique, just uh, overall,

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Speaker 2: just trying to get better as an offensive lineman, going

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Speaker 2: back to that, you know, moving positions. Obviously, I was

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Speaker 2: very well coached at UCLA. Man got great coaches here

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Speaker 2: I'm just trying to listen, hone in on my technique

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Speaker 2: and get better. Thank you, Thank you for I'm a

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Speaker 2: rookie too,