1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: He's the host of his self titled radio program heard nationwide. 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 1: Here's Michael Barry in for Clay Travis and Buck Sexton, 3 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: and the show goes rolling along. I can't begin to 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: tell you how humbling it is when, for as long 5 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: as you can remember the entirety of your adult life, 6 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 1: when you heard the Russia Limball theme song, next you 7 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: heard Rush Limbaugh and Mike Maimon says in your ear, 8 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: all right, start talking, kiddo, and you're thinking, well, no, 9 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: that's that's for us. I can even handle Clay Travis 10 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton talking just anybody other than me at 11 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: that moment. Even though that's every radio broadcaster's dream. Make 12 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 1: no mistake, every elected official wants to be president one day, 13 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: even though they may not be cut out for it. 14 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: Every radio broadcaster imagines getting to sit in Russia Limball 15 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: seat and talking to the golden microphone once in their life. 16 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: It's a dream come true. So thanks to all the 17 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: folks who've made it happen. Thanks to Mojo on the 18 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: phones and Mike Mamone, our engineer and expert guidance and 19 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: counselor throughout all of this. Speaking of which, the phones 20 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: are now open your calls on anything we've talked about 21 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: earlier today, whether that was Harry Reid, Ted Cruz, doctor McCullough, 22 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: doctor Mary Tally Bowden, Jim Jordan, the January sixth Committee, 23 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: or critical race theory, which our guests now we're going 24 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: to visit with about and after this run of show, 25 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,839 Speaker 1: After this segment here, we'll spend two segments on your calls, 26 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: and we'll close out the last segment with a little 27 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: tribute to John Madden, including a conversation with my friend 28 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: Dan Pastorini, who was a quarterback during those storied seventies 29 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: football years. The stick to the issues crowd won't like that, 30 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: but we're carving out one little segment to do that 31 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: because I love John Madden and lots of other folks 32 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: do as well. It's the passing of an American legend. 33 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: But before we get to all that, one eight hundred 34 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: two eight two to eight eight two, that'll be Mojo 35 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: you'll be talking to on the other end of the line. 36 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 1: He is the man responsible, along with James Golden, for 37 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: the stack as Rush would organize those papers. He's the 38 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: one who handed those papers to Rush. Through the course 39 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: of these last few years, Mojo will be answering the phones, 40 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: which we'll get to in a moment. David pif Toorak 41 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: is an attorney who is bringing cases on behalf of 42 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 1: people who are victims of critical race theory. There is 43 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: a case that's getting a lot of attention. December sixteenth 44 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 1: of this year, Piftak filed a lawsuit against Smith College, 45 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: alleging that Smith College quote fostered a toxic climate of 46 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: racial fear, hostility, and exclusion against his case Jody Shaw, 47 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: his client, Jody Shaw. This was felt most deeply by 48 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: lower level employees like plaintiff Jody Shaw, who, while simply 49 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: trying to make ends meet, suddenly found themselves thrust into 50 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: the middle of an ideologically driven campaign of race essentialism 51 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: and collective guilt pushed by the school. Specifically, Smith adopted 52 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: an official policy of viewing every aspect of its operations 53 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: through a racial lens, one that distorts all whites into 54 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: malevolent oppressors and all people of color into hapless victims, 55 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: regardless of any individual's actual position or status. This policy 56 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 1: permeated every decision and action taken by the school. David Piptorac, 57 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,279 Speaker 1: How bad was it? What do they do? To her. 58 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: Oh Man, First, Michael, thanks for having me on. Let 59 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: me yeah, let me tell you about what Jody experienced, 60 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: because it's kind of one of the worst cases of 61 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: discrimination or you know, what you can call woke discrimination 62 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: that I've come across. And I've been doing this for 63 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: quite a while, and you know, I think some context 64 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: is necessary to explain what happened to Jody and really 65 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: the rest of the lower level staffers at the school. 66 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: Really it all began and back in twenty eighteen, when 67 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: a black student was in a a in a school 68 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 1: building that was reserved for school children for a school camp, 69 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 1: and only people who were the kids, and only the 70 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: people who passed like counselors who passed through child to 71 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 1: be screening, could be in that building. Someone saw janitor, 72 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 1: saw her there, saw that she wasn't supposed to be 73 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: there because camp was out, and per Smith policy, called 74 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: campus security. Security showed up. You know, they were very polite, 75 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: but the student, you know, she pulled out her phone, 76 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: started taping and immediately, you know, she immediately pulled out 77 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: the race card posted on social media accused two cafeteria 78 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: workers who had nothing to do with it, of being 79 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: race post their information online said that, you know, they 80 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: called the cops on her for eating while black. That's 81 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: what she said. And Smith College, without doing any investigation 82 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: or figuring out what actually happened, they disparaged the innocent 83 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: cafeteria workers and everyone involved as a racist and started, 84 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: you know, like most of these institutions do, they started 85 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: self flagellating and decrying themselves as white supremacists and terrible 86 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: and all that, and you know, and after they actually 87 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: did an investigation, they found out, well, there was nothing wrong. 88 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: Everybody did everything that they were supposed to do. But 89 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: Smith not a word right. And even after finding out 90 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: that there was nothing racially wrong with this incident, they 91 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: started instituting these policies that we talked about in this lawsuit. 92 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: But don't I read a story in your pleadings about 93 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: them canceling an orient orientation program she had planned for 94 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: incoming students. Quote because you are white. This is to 95 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: the point of harassment and humiliation. I mean, this is 96 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: pretty bad stuff. And you know it's not just stat 97 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 1: and those you know, and that that really began after 98 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: this race hoax incident, and Smith made every single lower 99 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: level staff, not faculty, go through these basic racial indoctrination 100 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: struggle sessions to make all these white lower level staff 101 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: admit we're white supremacists, we're racists, we have racist blood 102 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: in our DNA, and um, you know Jody she was 103 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: she was a librarian. She was a very popular librarian. 104 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 1: She was stabbed with putting on the show for six 105 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: hundred incoming freshmen, you know, and they said, hey, make 106 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: it fun, make it cool, you know, make it interesting 107 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: for eighteen year old. So she did a good, good 108 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: humored rap, you know, something like very innocent, something very 109 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: light that the kids would enjoy. When she presented it 110 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: to the administration, they said, you can't do this because 111 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: you're white. What she said, Wait, wait if I was 112 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: a person of color, I could do this. And they 113 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: said absolutely right, and it didn't stop there. So David, 114 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: you're basically bringing cases. You may not like these words 115 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: for what we used to call reverse discrimination. Sure, yeah, 116 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: and you're right, I definitely don't like these words because 117 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: when we put that kind of label on it, it 118 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: makes it seem like it's kind of less less divisive. 119 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: You are the founder of the Critical Race Theory Attorney Coalition. 120 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: How big is this? How powerful is this? Is there 121 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: money to be made. Is it worth bringing a lawsuit? Absolutely? 122 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: I think, you know. And we're looking for more attorneys 123 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: to join our cause. We got to think Chris Ruffo, 124 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: who kind of started this and put a bunch of 125 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: attourneys together, and now it's sprung up in this where 126 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: we're trying to gather attorneys who are brave enough to 127 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: fight these issues and fight the local ideology to join 128 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: a clause and you know, just start start litigating all 129 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: across the country. David, I want you to tell folks 130 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: how to join your group. I read your handy legal 131 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: checklist of potential legal violations in the classroom and in 132 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: the workplace, and you have a short list of if 133 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: you think you've been a victim of this, these are 134 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: a violation of your civil rights, and you list this 135 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: if people want to learn more, if people want to 136 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: say I've had enough, I'm standing up, I'm fighting back 137 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 1: against my school or my workplace. How do they get 138 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: a hold of you or this coalition? So you can 139 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: find us on a website CRT Attorney dot com or 140 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 1: you can give us a call where toll free eight 141 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: sixty six no to CRT n O T O CRT 142 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: if you're a potential client. Like, for example, if you 143 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: have a kid in school who's been and told by 144 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: his teacher that you know, well, you know you're a 145 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: white supremacist because your skin color, or you have white privilege, 146 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: or you know, or on the contrary, if you're you know, 147 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: parent of a black student who's told that, well, you know, 148 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: you're lesser than because of your skin color. Uh, this 149 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: society is not going to let you achieve everything that 150 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: you can't achieve because of your skin color. Uh. That's 151 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: you know that discrimination, dividing students, dividing people in general, 152 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: were employees, students by race, by these other immutable characteristics. 153 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: That's wrong, it's illegal. And but whenever, as I learned 154 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: in law school, if you sit on your rights, you 155 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: lose them. I believe in the power of jurisprudence to 156 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: change policy, and I love that you're doing this. David 157 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: Piftoric is his name, the CRT Critical Race Theory Attorney Coalition. 158 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: Your calls coming up one eight hundred eight two two 159 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,199 Speaker 1: eight eight two. I'm Michael Berry in for Clay Travis 160 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton. You are antidotes to the cancel culture. 161 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Box Sexton on the EIB network Michael 162 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 1: Berry in for Clay Travison Buck Sexton. The website is 163 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck dot com. You can go there and 164 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 1: there is a guest host portion where some of what 165 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 1: we've talked about today is posted for you to read 166 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: for yourself. You can reach me directly through my website 167 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: at Michael Berryshow dot com and the website and the 168 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: phone number is one eight hundred two eight to two 169 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: eight eight two. Let's start with Greg in Minneapolis, Minnesota. 170 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: You're up, Greg, thanks to michaelm I had a discussion 171 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: about CRT with someone the other day and I later 172 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: make all the you know, check all the boxes. White person, oppressor, 173 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 1: black person victim. My three year old grandson is a 174 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: racist because he was born with white skin. And after 175 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: he was done, I said, okay, well, what do we 176 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: do now? What do we do going forward? And he 177 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: paused and he said, you know, well, we need everyone 178 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: on board, we need help. And I was at a 179 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: loss for words. I just started laughing in his face 180 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: because out of one side of his racist mouth, he's 181 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: saying that I'm an irredeemable racist. Out of the other 182 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: side of his racist mouth, he's saying he wants my help. 183 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: So I told him, you know what, not only will 184 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: you not get my help regarding CRT, but anything I 185 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 1: can do in my power going forward to prevent you 186 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: from achieving anything I'm going to do, well, that's just racist. 187 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: Thanks for making my point. What are you going? What 188 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: do you think is going to happen when you and 189 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: doctrinate millions of white children in this racist garbage? They're 190 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 1: going to turn from white children into white adults one 191 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: day who have nothing but contempt and hatred in their 192 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: heart for Black Americans. And you know what, it will 193 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 1: be completely justified. And maybe we can use or maybe 194 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: they can use the argument that the black community to 195 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: use this now, which it's not our fault for behaving 196 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: the way we do. It's not our fault for feeling 197 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: like we feel with products of our environment. We're just 198 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: products of our conditioning. You can't blame us, right very 199 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: well said thank you for the call. You know, and 200 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: it's listen, it's not just a zero sum game. It's 201 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: not just It is not the case that critical race 202 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: theory is just knocking down white kids, and to the 203 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: extent they're being knocked down, black kids are being lifted up. 204 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: Quite the contrary. My sons are black, they're from Africa, 205 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: They're from Ethiopia, and they will tell you that there 206 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: are many occasions where well meaning whites of various different 207 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: backgrounds and roles in their lives will try to convince 208 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: them that they're somehow a victim. Or we'll try to 209 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: convince them that somehow if they don't win something, or 210 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: accomplish something, or achieve something, or they get turned down 211 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: for something, that somehow they're a victim, or, as George W. 212 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: Bush famously said, the soft bigotry of low expectations. You know, 213 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: my wife and I she's from India, She's a tiger mom. 214 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: We tell the teachers, you know, a bee is not 215 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: good enough. I want my kids to be at the 216 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: top of the class, not because I care that they 217 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: beat the other kids, but because I care that they 218 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: do the absolute best they can do. And I don't 219 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: want any expectation that because they're black, they shouldn't perform. Well, 220 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: why shouldn't they. If you put in the work, you'll 221 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: win in everything that you do. Nobody has a low 222 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: expectation for a black football player. Nobody has a low 223 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: expectation for a black basketball player. Why should we have 224 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: a low expectation for a black engineer? And it's not 225 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: until you start having that standard for people. Most of 226 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 1: these attempts by white liberals to do good for blacks 227 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: are actually the equivalent of feeding the bears. You're making 228 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: people dependent on government handouts. Let them do for themselves. 229 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: You know, we live in a fascinating time in America. 230 00:13:56,480 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: Think about this for a moment. The foremost America intellectual, 231 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 1: Thomas Soul and the greatest living Supreme Court Justice Justice 232 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: Thomas are both black men. No one had to put 233 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: them there for their race. They're both black men, and 234 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: they are the greatest. They are the two leading thinkers 235 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: of our time. And when's the last time anybody pointed 236 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: that out? When's the last time anybody pointed that out? 237 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: Every young black child and white child in America should 238 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: be holding those two up as heroes because they are, 239 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: because they're heroes of the mind, their thinkers, they're influencers. 240 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: And yet, when's the last time you heard that Paula 241 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: and Pilot Mountain, North Carolina never been there? What's Pilot Mountain, 242 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: North Carolina famous for Paula? Well? Or right next door 243 00:14:56,200 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: to Mount Airy or Mayberry for the Anger and show. Okay, 244 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: all right, so we're Mount Pilot and we're just down 245 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: the road, just a beautiful Piedmont, North Carolina community. Okay, 246 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: do you have a festival or do you have a 247 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: something that you're kind of famous for? We have a 248 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: mosquito festival right outside of Houston. My little town's famous 249 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: for the crawfish festival. Oh well, nothing that exciting. But 250 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: we do have a May Fest, which is fun. But 251 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: we also sponsor a cruise in uh five six saturdays 252 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: a month from May through October. Whole cars come and 253 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: drive through the town and oh yeah, music and okay, 254 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: wine and have a big time. So it's fun. It's good. 255 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: Oh okay, do you have an old car? I do not. 256 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: I just I really go for the beach, music and 257 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: the wine. Are you Are you a lifelong Are you 258 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: a lifelong North Carolinian? Oh I am. My ancestors have 259 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: been here since the seventeen hundred, so my roots are deep. 260 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: Seems to be one of those places that people grow 261 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: up there and never want to leave, not that they can't, 262 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: they never want to leave because they love the people 263 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: and the culture. I gotta tell you some of the kindest, 264 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: sweetest they don't get nice attention nationally. Some of the kindest, sweetest, 265 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: most wonderful people I've ever met in my life are 266 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: from North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Arkansas, Tennessee, Mississippi, Louisiana, 267 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: Southwest Florida, and just the kindest, most wonderful of course, Texas. 268 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: But you knew that already, Paula. If you would hold 269 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: with me for just a moment, my clock management is 270 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: worse than less miles is. I'll get to you in 271 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: just a moment. I want to hear what you have 272 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: to say. Phone lines are one eight hundred two eight 273 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: two eight eight two. I'm Michael Berry, with the great 274 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: honor to get to sit in for Clay Travis and 275 00:16:49,160 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton. You're listening to Clay Travis and Buck Sexton 276 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 1: on the e V Network from news Radio seven forty 277 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: KTRH in Houston, Texas. Here's Michael Barry, honored to be 278 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 1: in for Klai Travis and Buck Sexton. Paula in Pilot Mountain, 279 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 1: North Carolina. Thank you for your kindness. You're up, dere 280 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: go ahead, all right. Well, I've just I've thoroughly enjoyed 281 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: you today. Every segment has been so good. But Jim Jordan, 282 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of his and I really would 283 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 1: love to see him be the next Speaker of the House. 284 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: Kevin McCarthy, I think kind of a rhino, and I'm 285 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:56,719 Speaker 1: never totally sure where he's going to come out. And 286 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: I just I don't worry about Jim Jordan. I know 287 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 1: how he's on a vote. Um. John Kennedy is another 288 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: one that I admire because I don't worry that he's out. 289 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: You know that he's going to disappoint us. But I 290 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: was just telling the screener that I'm in North Carolina 291 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: and Tom till Us of Richard Burr or our senators, 292 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 1: and you know, they were both that they have joined 293 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 1: with the Democrats at least twice in recent weeks to 294 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: vote with the Democrats. And you know at Burr course 295 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: his way on his way out because of his stock dealings. 296 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 1: But you know, I think Tom Tillis thinks we'll forget 297 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: in five And I told yeah, and it just I called. 298 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: I called their offices about once a week and let 299 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: them have it and just tell them how disappointed we 300 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: are in them and that we won't forget. But Um, 301 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: I just again, I don't know how they're not going 302 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: to let us just walks in and take the twenty 303 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: two elections legally. And I think if we don't figure 304 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 1: out how to stop what happened in twenty twenty, Um, 305 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: you know, I just I don't trust the system. And 306 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: also I'm tired of voting for people who promised us 307 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: that they're going to stand with us and do the 308 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 1: right thing, and then they get in there and they 309 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: work with the Democrats when the Democrats never work with us. 310 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 1: Fare you have that last point, Thank you for the call. 311 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: That last point you made needs to be repeated, and 312 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 1: that is, yes, our side will constantly work with them 313 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: and vote across the line with them, but their folks 314 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,479 Speaker 1: almost never do it with us. It was a threat 315 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: to democracy. We were told that Joe Mansion voted against 316 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: a bill that was so bad for his state that 317 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: Donald Trump won by I forget was thirty eight percentage points. 318 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 1: I mean, Donald Trump just just carried West Virginia in 319 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: massive numbers. This build back Better was horrible for the 320 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: people and the workers and industry of West Virginia. He 321 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 1: was left with no choice but to vote against it. 322 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 1: And we heard things like democracy does work. You know 323 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 1: this is terrible. Well, it sure seemed to work when 324 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: John McCain cast the deciding vote to prevent repeal of Obamacare. 325 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: It sure seems to work every time Republicans help Democrats 326 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 1: get their agenda passed. But the one time a relatively 327 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: conservative Democrat Joe Mansion, votes with his state and does 328 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: his job, then democracy is under attack. And your guy 329 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: is really no different than John Cornyan in Texas in 330 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 1: six years. These guys know the first few years they 331 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: can go over there and cut deals with the Democrats. 332 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 1: In the last of their six years, then they take 333 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 1: on the local twin again. And you know, John John 334 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 1: Cornyan comes back to Texas and he puts on that 335 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: cab boy hat and says, I'm I'm for Texas. Send 336 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: me back up ear and fight then boys so hard 337 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: for y'all. And then he's got all the money in 338 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: the world and he gets re elected. And then he 339 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: spends the next two years acting like a Democrat. And 340 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 1: then as he gets closer and closer to the election, 341 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: he puts back on that Texas accent. I locked my 342 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: ranchers and my godfair and Texans and my veterans and 343 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 1: send me back to FOT the dad burned Democrats, and 344 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: people fall for it. They fall for it because underfunded 345 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: candidates that can't get off the ground or all they 346 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: ever go against. It's a Republican state, so I guess 347 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: they can get away with it if you think about it. 348 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: Sue in Canton, Maine, you're up, dear, go ahead up 349 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: in the second district. We have the worst one, Susan Collins. 350 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: But I didn't call about that. I called about your 351 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 1: wonderful patriot this first time. I've listened to you this week, 352 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 1: and I think you're great. I don't have a computer, 353 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: I don't have any Internet, I don't have a smartphone 354 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: or anything. I just listened to the radio, and you 355 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: are a great patriot. FOT. Harry Reid was the most 356 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:53,360 Speaker 1: despicable lying cheat. He told cheat. My sister lived out 357 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: in about it. She knew all about him. And when 358 00:21:55,480 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: they changed that airport in his name, I almost grew up. 359 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: Because that's what they do. They uplift the most corrupt 360 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 1: people they can. The Democrat Party. They've corrupt through and 361 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 1: through their communess and they're racist. Anyway, You're great, You're 362 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: pay You uplifted my spirits. I've been feeling down about 363 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: where this country's going. I my family fought all the 364 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: way back where I came over on the sixteen twenty mayflower. 365 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: I have seven descendants coming over. I'm not rich, I'm 366 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 1: not a blue blood like Terry, that moron, but we 367 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 1: fought through the Revolutionary War, and my whole family the 368 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: Civil War, fought against the South and blah blah blah. 369 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: I love this country so much. My father was World 370 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: War two, my grandfather world War one, World War two, 371 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: and they're trying to kill us. Terry Reid was a lying, cheat, despicable. 372 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 1: I don't even want to call him a human being. 373 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 1: I watched him over the years. Anyway, You're wonderful. I 374 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: love you. I loved Rushi died on February and Keith. 375 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: I'll never forget it. I still have keys in my eyes. 376 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: His lovely wife, Catherine, please give her love. She was 377 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 1: wonderful to stand by him. Anyway, this is thirty years 378 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: I've been trying to get through. It's the first time 379 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 1: i've I've gotten through the rush his show. Well, it's 380 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 1: an honor to have you, and I know that it 381 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: sustained Rush to know that there was so much love 382 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: out there in this country that he would never get 383 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: to meet. You know, it's been a real treasure and 384 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 1: pleasure for us this last week to get to deal 385 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: with his team. And I'm gonna tell you, the love 386 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: for that man is palpable. Your standard is high because 387 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: it has to be excellence in broadcasting, and they let 388 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 1: you know that. I mean in very very clear terms 389 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: speaking of Rush. He loved football. I know the stick 390 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: to the issues crowd would not want a discussion on this, 391 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: but it's important. John Madden was a legendary football coach 392 00:23:56,040 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: who became a legendary broadcaster. He's a pop culture icon, players, fans, 393 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: TV viewers, kids across the spectrum. My friend said that 394 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: his wife mentioned that John Madden had explained the game 395 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: of football to her when no one else had. John 396 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: Madden was a special American, a very special American who 397 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: coached a very special seventies Raiders football team. The Autumn 398 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: Wind is a pirate blustering in from scene with a 399 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: rollicking song. He speaks along, swaggering voicelessly, his face as 400 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: weber beaten. He wears a hooded sash with a silver 401 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: hap about his hair and a bristling black mustache. He 402 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 1: growls as he storms the country a villain bigg and 403 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: bowls and the threes old shake and quiver and quick 404 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: as he rubs them of their goals. The Autumn Wind 405 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: is a raider pillaging just for fun. He'll knocked you 406 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: round and upside down and laugh when he's conquered and won. 407 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 1: Dan Pastorini played quarterback for the Houston Oilers and after 408 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: just after Madden left for the Oakland Raiders. He has 409 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: some stories to share about John Madden. I'm Michael Berry 410 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 1: in for Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. That's coming up 411 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: next time. Slots on loan from Rush, Lay Travis and 412 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton on the EIB Network. Michael Berry in for 413 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. John Madden passed. Here he 414 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: is in nineteen eighty six talking about the refrigerator, Perry 415 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 1: having lost a little weight. There's a fridge. I saw 416 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 1: him out here earlier and he was just in a 417 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: T shirt. You know, he's getting that weight down. But 418 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: I've always noticed when the Gate gets his weight down, 419 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: he starts wearing a lot of T shirts. You know. 420 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: You know, when you have your weight up there, you 421 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: wear a lot of coats and stuff over you. You 422 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 1: thought his weight was going down. I think his weight's 423 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: going down, Yeah, I do. I think that seven and 424 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 1: the two is getting closer to the middle of his body. 425 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: Now looked like a full package to me. When we 426 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: were down on the field before, John Madden and past 427 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: Summer all talking about Nate Newton's steaming head. See see 428 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 1: how heat does come out of the top of your head. 429 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: And look at it just coming off a Nate's head there, 430 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: that's where it escapes. If you have heat in your 431 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: body and you want to let it out, you take 432 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: your hat off. Yeah. What you could do is he 433 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: is you could have a barbecue on that head. Nate's 434 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 1: got a lot of room to let it out now, 435 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: I mean you could cook like some burgers on there. 436 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: Look now you're talking and this his foot. When you 437 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 1: got Steve coming out of your head and your mouth. 438 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: Now you're talking football. You're controlling that offensive line. This 439 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: is what it's all about. John Madden was a great coach. 440 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: He was an even greater broadcaster, and broadcasters have appreciation 441 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 1: for other great broadcasters. Rush his team pulled these quotes 442 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: of Rush talking about Madden over the years, May twenty second, 443 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: two thousand and nine. I have a little John Madden 444 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: story before the game. Up in the booth, Madden is 445 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: getting his final makeup touch up and it's hot as hell. 446 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: The humidity's up, and the lights in the booth and 447 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: so forth, and he's got on a coat and tye. 448 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: He gets out of the chair. He's walking to get 449 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: something to drink, and he says, this is what's great 450 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 1: about radio. You don't have to guck up your face. 451 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: With his gunk and his buddy John Robinson, he always 452 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 1: took with him, the coach of the Rams, and his 453 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: high school friend was up there. There are multiple references 454 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 1: that Rush made to John Madden over the years, because 455 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: he had respect for the man and how good he 456 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: was at what he did. My friend Dan Pastorini played 457 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: against those Oakland Raiders and I asked him to share 458 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: some stories with me off air about Madden when Madden passed, 459 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,719 Speaker 1: and he texted me said, my first one is Monday night. 460 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: My first Monday Night game October night, nineteen seventy two 461 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 1: against the Raiders. I was three for twenty one. I 462 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 1: had four interceptions, three of them to defensive linemen. It 463 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 1: was a bad night. The same night, the Oilers fan 464 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: flipped the bird to the cameraman and dandy Don Meredith said, 465 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 1: he thinks his team is number one. Here's that audio 466 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: right there is a vivot picturization of the excitement that 467 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: con this game. I guess we'll have some boy shots 468 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: of the crowd for you a little while folk, the 469 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: number one of today shot. Today they would have to 470 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: apologize and go to break, but back then they just laughed. 471 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: Legendary quarterback Dan Pastorini coached played four and against John Madden. 472 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: That was the worst night you ever had. But those 473 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: Madden teams we're tough, weren't they They were always tough 474 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: Michael they you know, back in the early days, we 475 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: didn't really have a competitive team to match up to him, 476 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: and that Monday night game was our first one ever, 477 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: and it was indicative of the type of football they played. 478 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: But they were a good football team, their solid, good 479 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: football team, especially under his students. I think his winning 480 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: percentage is what seventy nine, one hundred and three thirty 481 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: seven or two and seven ties. You know, that's pretty 482 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: darn good records against anybody that's played more than one 483 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: hundred games or coach more than one hundred games. But 484 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: you know, I really enjoyed his personality. He was pretty 485 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: intense in the field. I remember playing later on. We 486 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: were beating him this point in particular day and I 487 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: ran out of bound that he came running up the 488 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: sideline and got in my ear pretty good. He was. 489 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: He was not one to hold back much and neither 490 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: was I, and I just kind of turned over my 491 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: shoulder started an explictive to him, and the whole team 492 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: behind him started laughing. So he uh, he was. I 493 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: was fortunate enough to play for him and in the 494 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl and seventy four down in New Orleans. That 495 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: gave me my only opportunity and got to know him 496 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: a little bit down there. He was a He was 497 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: a free spirited guy. He didn't care what you did 498 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: off the field, going to perform the worth hard on 499 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: the field. So you know, the world has lost, uh, 500 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: you know, a good man. The Raider nation has lost, 501 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: because actually a raider nation has lost a couple of 502 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: good man with Bruce Davis dying the other day as well. 503 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: So from Houston, from Houston, Yeah, so you know it's uh, 504 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: you never like to see anybody go, but you know, 505 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: He had a pretty good run, and I especially liked 506 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: his his TV personality he was I think he became 507 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: more famous as a TV personality or announcer than he 508 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: was as a coach. But if he played against the 509 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: Raider team coach by or any team coach by John Madden, 510 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: you you were going against the best. Who would have 511 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: guessed a man who was often or once described as 512 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,040 Speaker 1: looking like an unmade bed would make it all the 513 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 1: way to be eighty five years old. I mean, that's 514 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: that's really saying something. You were traded straight up from 515 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: the Oilers to the Raiders for Kenney Stabler. You went 516 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: to the Raiders on the team you won the Super Bowl. 517 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: Uh that year Madden had just left Floores had replaced him, 518 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: but al Davis was there, and you had your run 519 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 1: ins with al Davis. And you don't have many nice 520 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: things to say about him. Most people don't. He coached 521 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: for ten years for al Davis, taking over when he 522 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: was just thirty two years old. What does that say 523 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: about Madden as a person that he could tolerate al 524 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: Davis for that many years. He was a patient man. 525 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: He had to be, because you never know what al 526 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: Davis you were going to get um from day to day. Um. 527 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: So he he was a patient man obviously, but he 528 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: again he didn't let he didn't let little things bother him. 529 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: He was the head coach and he was gonna do 530 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: what he don knew how to do, and he did 531 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: it well. But you know, he was he had to 532 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: have a strong will to be able to work under 533 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: those circumstances. He had a lot of good talent around 534 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: him though, so he was capable of coaching a lot 535 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: of people up that he didn't have to coach up 536 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: too many guys because they had a team of Hall 537 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: of famers that those that decade from seventy eight to eighty, 538 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: your Oilers were the winningest team in all of football 539 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: for those years of your career, starting in seventy two 540 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: you played against. Your rivalries were the Steelers and the Raiders. 541 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: What were those Raiders teams like under John Madden? They 542 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: were tough? I mean they were you know when I 543 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: thought that the AFC Central was the toughest division personally 544 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: in the in the in the league. I remember one 545 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: year I think we all went eight and six, and 546 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: three of the four teams when eight and six, the 547 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: other team is seven and seven in the Steelers won 548 00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: by default. But you know, the Raiders were as good. 549 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: If you know they could they can match the Steelers. 550 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: They could. They could definitely match up at the Steelers. 551 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: You know we could on given days. But on a 552 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: day to day basis, they were pretty tough teamed to 553 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,719 Speaker 1: match up to. But I would say that the Raiders 554 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: were in the wrong division. They should have been in 555 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: the Central Division. Dan Pastorini, you were my childhood hero. 556 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: You are a dear friend, and you are a great 557 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: source on all things seventies NFL football. Thank you, brother, 558 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: Thank you, Michael, and keep up the good work. You're 559 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: doing a great job. We love you here in Texas. 560 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: Thank you, buddy. I feel like I feel the presence 561 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: of Rush, aside from the fact that his able team 562 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: has held our hand throughout all of this, but mentioning 563 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: the Steelers, I feel like I feel like Rush is 564 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: smiling down. Yeah, you gave it to the stick, the 565 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 1: Issues crowd. You stuck it to the stick, the Issues crowd. Well, 566 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: we'll be with you all week. It's been a real 567 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: pleasure and we have two more fun filled, thrill seeking 568 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: days to enjoy with you. I hope you'll join us. 569 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: Claybuck dot com is the website. You can contact me 570 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: through my website at Michael Berryshow dot com. I'm Michael 571 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: Berry in for Clay Travis and Buck Sexton with the 572 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: able assistance of the entire Premier team. What a team 573 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: they are. We'll see tomorrow. You're listening to Clay Travis 574 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton on the EIB Network.