1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Whatever supper, Ward Jones Jam hang out with my man 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Andrew Ward. We threw Hall of Famous to bring y'all 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 1: a show called a Hall of Game, a show where 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: we discuss boxing, sports, life and entertainment from RV. 5 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 2: How much bead of the neck can you get? 6 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 3: Me and Roy don't always agree. The one thing you will. 7 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 4: Get is a Hall of Fame. 8 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:24,479 Speaker 2: What the game? 9 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 3: And welcome back to another episode of the Hall of 10 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 3: Game with me and my boy Royd Jones Junior. What's up? 11 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 3: How you doing? Brother? 12 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 2: Oh good brother? How you feeling man? 13 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 3: It's a great day, great show. We got a great 14 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 3: guest today. Today our guest is a three time world champion. 15 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 3: He's the current WBOWBA Cruiserweight Champion, Mexico's first ever cruiserweight champion. 16 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 3: I want to welcome to the show Gilberto Zerdo Ramirez. 17 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 3: Thank you for coming on, Gilbert. 18 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 4: For halloing me. 19 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, you are one half of the big show that's 20 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 3: taking place Saturday, May second at the T Mobile Arena 21 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 3: live on pay per view on Prime Video and his 22 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 3: own pay per view against David Benavidez. A couple of 23 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 3: weeks out, Zerto, this is a very key time in 24 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 3: training camp. For fighters. How are you feeling all? 25 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 4: I feel great. I feel so exciting for this may 26 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 4: second in Las Vegas, and I mean it's just like 27 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 4: dream come through right now. 28 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 3: For a while, Floyd Mayweather he held single Demayo hostage 29 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 3: and then Canelo Alvarez held single Demayo hostage. But now 30 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 3: you finally get a chance to fight on that great 31 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 3: Mexican holiday. How does that feel some Mexico versus Mexico duel. 32 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 4: I mean it's great because we never have a two 33 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 4: big guys in fighting Sinco and Mayo, and I mean 34 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 4: it's so exciting. Is making history? 35 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 3: You guys got history. I'm gonna get into the history 36 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 3: in just a second. But how did this fight get made? 37 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 3: With you and David Benavidez. 38 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 4: Boy, I think it'd be a war. We've been working 39 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 4: a long time before, but I think as a fighting 40 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 4: grow up we did or different paths. But he's one 41 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 4: of the greatest. I'm one of the greatest, and I 42 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 4: think it'd be a Joseph Warren is exciting for this 43 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 4: fight now. 44 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 3: If I'm not mistaken. The first time that you got 45 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 3: a spar was your training camp for your first world 46 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 3: title against or the Abraham and one sixty eight? 47 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 4: Correct, Yeah, that's correct. 48 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 3: So how did those rounds go? Or how does the 49 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 3: sparring go when you and David benavide Is get in there? 50 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 4: Boy? It was a pay per view sparring. And then 51 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 4: when him one day we both fight John and I 52 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 4: told him we need to make this fight happen one 53 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 4: day and because I mean, he was a pay per view. 54 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 3: This is my last one for now, and I'm gonna 55 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 3: let Roy ask a question. But I never wanted to 56 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 3: spar guys that I thought I might fight. Right, You 57 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 3: can never fully predict it. You never know how things 58 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 3: are gonna go. But that time is here now for you. 59 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 3: He knows a lot about you, you know a lot 60 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 3: about him. How are you gonna make this work? And 61 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 3: how do you fight a guy that has so many 62 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 3: sparring rounds under his under his bag? With you? 63 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 4: Boy, I think it's different. On the small gloves and 64 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 4: no headgear, I think it'd be an amazing fight. And 65 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 4: then I mean I want to put a great show. 66 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 4: He want to put a great show. Both of us 67 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 4: we want to be the greatest. And then this is 68 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 4: the fight that the box. He need to make it right. 69 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 4: This is the the fighter all the fun need to see. 70 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: So you're not worried about the spat No, I'm not insporing. 71 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: What do you feel were the strong things about Dave? 72 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: What was the strongest characteristics? 73 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 4: All the pressure that he has, all the volume, and 74 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 4: I mean it was a great part that we we 75 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 4: tried to spo every time that we couldn't we can't, 76 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 4: we can And I mean that was a good sporing. 77 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 2: How do you feel about a bunch of power? 78 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 4: I mean he has power, He has power, and then 79 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 4: he has a whore and then he came really prepare 80 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 4: for this fight and both about if we want to 81 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 4: put a great show for single mayo may second, and 82 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 4: I think he should be amazing fight. 83 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: Okay, does he have any weaknesses that you think you 84 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: can exploit? 85 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 2: Uh? 86 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 4: Well, I think he do have some weaknesses, and but 87 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 4: I'm working on it. 88 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 2: On You're not gonna tell us that, right, you got something? Okay, 89 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 2: That's why I want to know. 90 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: I want to know that you find anything that you 91 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: saw that may be beneficial to you that you saw 92 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: through the sparing, you know, because that's why I'm like 93 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: Andre I didn't really like to spar with people. 94 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 2: That I thought I might fight. 95 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: I started Richie Johnson once in nineteen ninety one. I 96 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: spart one round with him and I got out because 97 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: I felt like he was random one, but I was 98 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: random eight. 99 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 2: But I already knew I could beat him. 100 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 1: So I'm like, I'm not gonna teach him anything about 101 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 1: me because if he ever gets the built, I'm taking 102 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 1: it because I know I can beat him already. So 103 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: I understood that. That's why I asked you that question. 104 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: Was there anything that you saw in him that you 105 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: knew you could exploit? But you answered it perfect. 106 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. But the thing is, uh, I'm wanna. I want 107 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 4: to fight him because he's one of the Pump for 108 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 4: Pump fighters and he wants to move up to a 109 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 4: cruiser way And that's why I want to me and 110 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 4: I want to be the best, and he wants to 111 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 4: be the person. I mean, it's the fact that we 112 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 4: need to It needs to happen, right. 113 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 3: That sounds like it's a Mexican thing. Bro, Like they're 114 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 3: not tripping, they're not worried about the rounds. Man it's 115 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 3: mono in Mano. We got a toe the line, you know, 116 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 3: it's sickle demial. We gotta, we gotta, we gotta get 117 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 3: it on, we gotta. 118 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 2: This is more important than what we think. 119 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 3: Zo, how do you feel at thirty four years of age? 120 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 3: You know? And and how is training camp different than 121 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 3: maybe when you were in your your twenties. 122 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 4: Boy, it's been it's been long long ride in this 123 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 4: is sport. I've been in twenty years in this is sport, 124 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 4: and I feel amazing. I feel like, Uh, it's on 125 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 4: my prime, on my prime. But I think sooner or 126 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 4: later I need to I need to slow down because. 127 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 3: My to But do you do you feel like you're 128 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 3: slowing down or do you feel like you're right in 129 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 3: your prime? 130 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 4: No? I feel right now. I feel right on my prime. Yeah, 131 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 4: strong and faster and put a lot of hard work 132 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 4: and I feel really great. 133 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 3: Your coach man, you've been with Julian Trua for a 134 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 3: very long time and what makes him good as a 135 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 3: coach and and how why does that relationship work with 136 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 3: you too? 137 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 4: I mean, he's a smart guy and we always have 138 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 4: a good a chat and then he's he's only he's 139 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 4: different because he has he has a lot of hungry 140 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 4: to be like like a maney packer trainer and he 141 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 4: wants to be big and this is sport that that 142 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 4: it makes you like like for us, like good matching 143 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 4: because I want to be great. He's gonna be great. 144 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 4: Then we put a lot of hard work in the 145 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 4: gym and then he's really intelligent. Guy. 146 00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 2: Did anybody haven't hurt anybody in this far? 147 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 3: Not really really not even body shots? 148 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 4: No? 149 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 2: No, okay, okay, but. 150 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 4: I mean if if it will be an amazing fire, 151 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 4: I don't think we will need a bath in this 152 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 4: time because we're gonna a lot of punches and it'd 153 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 4: be a war. 154 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: How do you playing next? Voyume punch? We know you 155 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: throw vying punches. Are you gonna keep over that pace 156 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: and you're gonna do something different for that? 157 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 4: I want to keep the pace. I want to be 158 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 4: toe to toe and then probably I'm gonna I'm going 159 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 4: to boxing because I'm good boxing and I mean I 160 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 4: had a lot of skill to deal with this, uh 161 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 4: this this performance. 162 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 3: Well that's the question I want to ask is you 163 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 3: want to go toe to toe? But what is your coach? 164 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 3: What is Julian saying about you? 165 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 4: He we we want we will be smart in this fight, 166 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 4: were smart, and then we will making the plan, perfect 167 00:07:57,880 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 4: plan for this fight. 168 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 3: So you pick your spots. You got to know when 169 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 3: the box and then when the stand toe to toe 170 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 3: and get your respect. 171 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I want to. 172 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 3: I want to touch back on the question that Roy 173 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 3: asked about the volume puncher, because that's a that's a 174 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 3: It's one thing to face a pressure fighter, but when 175 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 3: you face a pressure fighter who throws a lot of 176 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 3: punches where his defense is really just his offense, he 177 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 3: keeps guys off of him by throwing a lot of punches, 178 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 3: and he's and he's a you know, he's not only 179 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 3: a volume puncher, but he's a heavy puncher as well. 180 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 3: What is the game plan or the style that you 181 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 3: have to employ to slow him down a little bit 182 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 3: and not let him set the pace of the fight. 183 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 4: I man, uh, doing my fire, throw a lot of punches, 184 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 4: move my head and dodge it alad. Yeah, And I 185 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 4: mean put up pressure sometime too. 186 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 3: So sometimes you got to meet fire with fire, and 187 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 3: then other times you gotta use your defense and your 188 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 3: skill to maybe make him this, Yeah, make him discouraged 189 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 3: to throw. Is that what you're saying? Talk to me 190 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 3: about the other cruiserweights in the division. You have Noel 191 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 3: Mcalay and a UBC champion. You have Jai Opataia, who 192 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 3: just fought not long ago was stripped of his iv 193 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 3: of building. Then you have the other two belts. Talk 194 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 3: to me about those other two guys. If you're successful 195 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 3: and you take care of business against David Benavidez. 196 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 4: Boy, I want to fight, I mean everyone. I want 197 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 4: to be on the spirter and uh I have a 198 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 4: May Second first, and then I need to pass through 199 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 4: this this guy and then anyone anyone in on my division. 200 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 3: No problem, no problem, Yeah, no problem, no problem. 201 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 4: Man. 202 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 3: What's the message that you want to send? Uh zerdo 203 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 3: may Second? 204 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 4: Man? 205 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 3: You've been in the game a long time and I 206 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 3: feel like this is another big moment for you that 207 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 3: that you have to seize and you have to take 208 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 3: advantage of. So what is the message may Second that 209 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 3: you're going to send a David Benavidez In the boxing world? 210 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 4: I mean everyone will see a war. Everyone will see 211 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 4: uh the best performance ones and the miss may Second 212 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 4: and I see you everyone in Vegas, Bemo. 213 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 3: No prediction. 214 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 4: I will win. I will win. 215 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 3: That prediction, well, Chaim, we will take that. We appreciate you, 216 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 3: thank you for taking the time out of your camp. No, 217 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 3: it's not easy, brother, and we'll get up with you 218 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 3: and we'll talk to you after the fight. Brother, Thank 219 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 3: you so much, y B. I want to get your 220 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 3: your thoughts on this this big cruiserweight showdown that we 221 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 3: got May second. It's about a week and a half 222 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 3: out between three time world champion Zerto Ramirez and three 223 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 3: time world champion David Benavidez. Zerdo was once a super 224 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 3: middleweight champion. He moved up to light heavy and now 225 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 3: he's a cruiser. And David Benavidez is pretty much terrorized 226 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 3: a super middleweight and light heavyweight division just because of 227 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 3: his his height, his reach, his style, the pressure, the toughness, 228 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 3: everything that he brings to the ring. But now David 229 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 3: Benavidez is going up to cruiserweight and I got questions 230 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 3: about that jump from light heavy to cruiser. That's probably 231 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 3: the only jumping weight that you haven't done, right, light 232 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 3: heavy the cruiser. But how is that in your mind? 233 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 3: How is that gonna either help or hurt David Benavidez. 234 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 3: And then how do you see this matchup? I see 235 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 3: one guy has a certain gear, another guy has another 236 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 3: type of gear, But that doesn't mean that the guy 237 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 3: with the higher gear is gonna win. Talk to me 238 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 3: about this match up between Zerda Ramirez and David Benavidez. 239 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: Well, the first thing is they've benevida Is always was 240 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: a bigger guy, you know, he always came down to 241 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 1: a weak classes that he made for him. Carrying two 242 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: hundred is nothing new to his body. He's used to that. 243 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: His body is used to that. He's been there several 244 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: times before, so I think the weight problem is definitely 245 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: not an issue with David Benavidez. Zerto, however, has basically 246 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 1: carried itself up there too, and he's done well already. 247 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 1: He's world champ, two world titles as a cruise of weight, 248 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: so that's saying a lot about him too. And I 249 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 1: just feel like both guys can carry the weight properly 250 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: because of their build, their statue. I think both of 251 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: them will do well carrying the weight. Zerto I have 252 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: not seen. I don't really deal with a volume puncher 253 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: like bena vide Is before. But the good thing for 254 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: Zero is that because he's farket with him before, he 255 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 1: has to insight on him already. 256 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 2: They have inside on each other. So one thing that I. 257 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: Don't think we've seen from David is a guy. 258 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 2: Who has farught with him, who knew him already. 259 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: Most guys are overwhelmed when they see him and see 260 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: the varium and see the size, They're completely overwhelmed by it. Zerdo, 261 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: on the other hand, knows it. 262 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 2: Now. 263 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 1: We've seen Zero self defeat before, so we know Zero 264 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: can be be. You know that question can be, that 265 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: riddle can be solved. 266 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 2: We have not seen it. 267 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: Bedt solved Benevita's reader ben a Vida is riddle yet. 268 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: So for me, Zero has to prove that he can 269 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: solve Rider because we know his real has been solved before, 270 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: and if anybody that can resolve it again as a 271 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: person who knows him and has been in the ring 272 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: with him already, which is going to be there. 273 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 2: So that's how I see it goes. 274 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 3: Before I get my take on a fight, you said something. 275 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 3: You know, anytime we talk about fight or sparring that 276 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 3: could potentially fight for everything, right like they're fighting for 277 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 3: their careers, legacy, money, everything right now. Any time we 278 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 3: talk about that, you always bring up you know, you 279 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 3: spoiling Reggie Johnson, a guy that you ended up fighting 280 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 3: and you had the foresight to know that I'm probably 281 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 3: gonna fight this guy for a world title and a 282 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 3: whole lot of m's one day. And you said that 283 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 3: I didn't want to teach him anything about me. What 284 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 3: do you mean by that? 285 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 2: Well? 286 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: I was different, I was unique. I was a different 287 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: kind of fighter. If you can sparkle the guy, you 288 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: learn what you bring to the table, if he gives 289 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: you everything. If I spoted Reggie for five six rounds, 290 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 1: I got to bring out everything on Reggie because Reggie 291 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: was a good fighter. And Reggie, as he gets to 292 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: get used to what I did, he's gonna make adjustments. 293 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: I didn't want him to know how to make those adjustments. 294 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: Make those adjustments the. 295 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 2: Night of the fight. 296 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 1: Understand, because I know none of the fight. I got 297 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: so much more that I can bring to you that 298 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna teach you none of it. Because if 299 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: I teach you half of it, then you're gonna have 300 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: half of a results. 301 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 2: You're gonna force me to have to go dig deeper. 302 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: And everybody's not pay him enough for me to be 303 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: digging that deeper my bag to beat you. You feel 304 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: me to that deep and they're not, So I should 305 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: have to go that deep in my bed to beat 306 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: you when I already see that I can beat you 307 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: with the first five items in the bag. I think 308 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: I can handle you with. So when I saw that, like, 309 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: let me get out. My dad cussed me out, called 310 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: me all kinds of names. 311 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 2: He thought was very I'm not hoping my skin. I 312 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 2: just beat him, but. 313 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 3: I'm saying what he want popstick. When you got out, 314 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 3: what wolf was his mindset? 315 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 2: He said, where are you going? I said, I'm done. 316 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 2: What you mean? I said, he can't beat me? 317 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: I said, if he get to be world champ and 318 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: you trained him too bad? Becuse they offered to me, 319 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: I don't know him like that, I'm whooping his you 320 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: know what. You know what I'm saying, keep bag. I'm done, 321 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: I said, I'm done. That's your fighting, that's your fighter. 322 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: He what he is when it comes to me to 323 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: see him, I'm taking it. I don't care if you 324 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: with him. 325 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. And that's just what it was. 326 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: But I had to learn that, No, you gotta walk 327 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: this walk of life with God on you in front 328 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: of you, and when God said go, you gotta go. 329 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: So you can't be worried about what nothing that nobody 330 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: else says. I understood that early. So when I got 331 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: in there, I knew before I got in there what 332 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: it was gonna be, and I knew what it should be. 333 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: And while I'm gonna get out, if it was what 334 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be, I already knew I 335 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: was better than him. So when I got in there, 336 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: I did everything I want to do to him. 337 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 2: So I got out. I said, he can't beat me. 338 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 2: I got around. 339 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: He was better that day, one one one one round one. 340 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 2: That told told Pops, that's it, that's it, I'm done. 341 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 3: What was ready? What was Reggie Johnson? What was he 342 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 3: doing when this was going on? 343 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 2: He wasn't doing nothing. He wanted to get back because 344 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 2: he lost. He know he lost that round. 345 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: He hoping he can try to wear this young kid 346 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: down and get some get back. Then you're not gonna 347 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: do that because when we fight, that's not gonna happen. 348 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: Neither so and says, you're thinking, my dad, that's not 349 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: going that way. Let's just get that understood it. That's 350 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: not gonna happen when it comes down to craftown. 351 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 2: So you get that too, you understand me. So I 352 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 2: already knew what it was. 353 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: And I know my daddy wants to let him get 354 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: used to spall me so you can see that he's. 355 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 2: Not as good as he thought he was. 356 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: But then my dad could feel like he gave him, thinking, well, 357 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: I want to get like your son is No, you're 358 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: not gonna teach me get like me. 359 00:15:58,080 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 2: You understand me. 360 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: That's not gonna happen, not on my car, because I 361 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: know that if me and you fall out, the first 362 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: thing you're gonna say is, yeah, terror to come fight 363 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: this guy, this guy, this guy, and told this guy 364 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: to be there. Yeah, that's what you did to me. 365 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: I'm not giving that. God is my father. I'm sorry. 366 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: I love you to death, but God is the ultimate father. 367 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: I'm just to a god. 368 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 2: Tell me. 369 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: God said, getting there, see where you get? You want 370 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: to get out, And that's what I did. 371 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 3: And then when y'all fought everybody, I got it. 372 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 2: I got me a bunch of them, I got me 373 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 2: a bunch of them, got out. 374 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 4: Man. 375 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 2: I feel like this was a great dude. 376 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel it because you know, I was very 377 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 3: you know, stand offish to guys that I felt like 378 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 3: I could possibly fight. You know, I just for me. 379 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 3: I just I don't have time, like like Verge was more. Hey, 380 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 3: you know, just you know, man, you ain't gonna fight, man, 381 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 3: And if I felt in my gut it's a possibility. 382 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 3: I'm talking about a guy above me one way class 383 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 3: or below me one way class, because if you below me, 384 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 3: you may grow out of a weight class. The next thing, 385 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 3: you know, we look at out of eye. You want 386 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 3: to higher away class, I might outgrow mine and ever 387 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 3: sit next thing you know, I'm looking at you out 388 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 3: of eye. I just have a lot of tolerance for it. Roy, 389 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 3: So I feel you like, I don't need no more friends. 390 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 3: I don't have a lot of friends in the game, 391 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 3: and I'm not looking for no more friends. This is 392 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 3: business for me. And if it's a clear path where 393 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 3: I can see there's no way we're gonna fight, I'm 394 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 3: more apt to conversate, bring you in to the team, 395 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 3: and talk you through because I want the best for fighters. 396 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I'm always pro fighting. I 397 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 3: want I want to do what I can do when 398 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 3: I can do it for anybody on the way up. 399 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 3: And you know we were able to do that for 400 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 3: a lot of guys. But the sparring thing is different, man, Like, like, 401 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 3: I really don't have nothing for you, because I take 402 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 3: that personal. Like in a boxing ring, as we know 403 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 3: your family's there and no matter what happens, good or bad, 404 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 3: they got a witness stand right, there's money on the line. 405 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 3: One loss promoters managers because they acting funny. Oh man, 406 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 3: we gotta you know, we gotta renegotiate your minimums and 407 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 3: we gotta figure this out. I just didn't have time 408 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 3: for none of that. And I know that you may 409 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 3: be smiling in my face today, but you really, you 410 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 3: really want that spot. And if you can clip me 411 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 3: and get my on your resume and get and beat 412 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 3: me and take what I have, and then all of 413 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 3: a sudden you start making the money that I was 414 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 3: making and have the name and the prestige that I have, 415 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 3: then you're gonna do that. So that's just how I 416 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 3: looked at it when it came to getting close to 417 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 3: certain guy and I had boxing friends, but I'm saying, dudes, 418 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 3: that was around my weight class. It's hard for me. 419 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 3: And we'll talk about the Andre Durrel situation as amateurs 420 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 3: as we came up and even when we turned pro 421 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 3: another time. But that that's that's another tough one, right, Like, 422 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 3: this is a dude that we came up together. But brother, 423 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 3: when we start we got into this Super six, things changed. 424 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 2: Man. 425 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 3: Verb Verge is very close to the late great Bumper Man. 426 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 3: Andre Durrel's Leon senior man, his grandfather man, you know, 427 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 3: just a great great man. Always loved seeing him, and 428 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 3: they stayed close throughout the amateurs into the pros. And 429 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 3: when the Super Six got made, I don't know what 430 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 3: they was, but they they off to the side. They 431 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 3: our boys ain't gonna fight. Ain't no way our boys 432 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 3: gonna fight. We'll pull him out to tournament. And I'm 433 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 3: looking at Vert, I'm saying versus I. I'm hold on 434 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 3: that contract. Say if he win that neck right there, 435 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 3: if he win his next fight, we're fighting. If I 436 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 3: win my next fight, which I just did, if I 437 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 3: be if I beat Kensler, we fighting, right Nah No, No, 438 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 3: I'm like, nah, so I had the brother. I love you, 439 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 3: but I gotta love you from a distance because you're 440 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 3: trying to hit me in my mouth, You're trying to 441 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 3: embarrass me, and you're trying to take what I got right. 442 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 3: And once we got past that and it realized he 443 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 3: wasn't gonna we wasn't gonna fight. We're good again. That's 444 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 3: just how it is. So we say all that to 445 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 3: say I admire the Xerdos of the world and the 446 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 3: David Benavidez of the world saying, look, bro, let's make 447 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 3: some let's make some money together. This ain't personal. You know. 448 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 3: We didn't put in hundreds of rounds together and we 449 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 3: just gonna we just gonna pick it up where we 450 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 3: left off. I respect it, I respect it. I just 451 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,719 Speaker 3: wouldn't want that situation for me. But sometimes, like it is, 452 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 3: with this situation, you can't always predict it. Sometimes y'all 453 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 3: just on a collision course. And brother, I gotta get 454 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 3: this bad. You gotta get this bad. I want the belt, 455 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 3: you want to keep your belt. We just got to 456 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 3: do what we gotta do. 457 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,239 Speaker 1: But that's not my preference, right, take your step up 458 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: with me. So I was helping a guy out one time, 459 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 1: thinking that, well, I'm hit out, but I don't know 460 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 1: if he ever get to be champed, but I'm gon 461 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: try hit him. 462 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 2: Out, right, he got to be champed and ask for me. 463 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: And guess what my first knockdown was, something about this 464 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: farm partner Lou del Veil. I just followed Lou deir Veil. 465 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 1: I talked Lou Devil everything. Then he got to be 466 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 1: getting champing. And as for me, I say, is he crazy? 467 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 2: You know? But you know? 468 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: And and I said, he did get the flass knockdown, 469 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 1: but I think he paid for her. But that was 470 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: I mean again, because all the rouser is far, he 471 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: didn't want to do it. With that, I'll probably get 472 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: you don't. That's the whole point. You should not have 473 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: deal with that. 474 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 3: Because what if I don't get up what if you 475 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 3: hit me just right? My stuff ain't working right and 476 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 3: I can't get. 477 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 1: Up there exactly exactly. That's that's why I don't deal 478 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 1: with it. So, like you said, head off to them, 479 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 1: but I can't get out like that. I ain't got 480 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: them any friends. 481 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 3: My type of part of yeah, man, I think this fight. 482 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 3: I think. The question that I have about David Ben 483 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 3: and Vitez is how you're gonna carry that weight? Is 484 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 3: the volume still gonna be as fast and as loud 485 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 3: and as strong as it normally is? Right? How you're 486 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 3: gonna how's your conditioning gonna be? Because all move ups 487 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 3: are not the same. Sometimes people move up and it's like, man, 488 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 3: that weight class fit you just right. You should have 489 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 3: moved up a long time ago. And other times it's 490 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 3: like you're not the same You're not the same fighter 491 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 3: up here as you were down there. So that's the 492 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 3: question I have with Ben to be there? How's he 493 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 3: gonna carry that weight? Is the volume gonna be there 494 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 3: the way that it was previously as super middleweight, light heavyweight? 495 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 3: And and is the condition that gonna be there? If 496 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 3: it is, he's. 497 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,719 Speaker 2: Straight, go ahead, talk to me. Most of his training 498 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 2: is at that weight. 499 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, over two hundred really over two hundred. 500 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 2: More of his training is that way? 501 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: How can he positively not carry How can he do 502 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: all of his training? 503 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 2: Pretty much? Then? So how could he? Exactly? 504 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 3: Sometimes? Man, that's like that with everybody for him, everybody. 505 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: Cutting not for him, but not for him. He's cutting differently. 506 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: We gonna see, right, if you ever see him outside 507 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: of it, have you ever seen him? You understand that 508 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: this dude, this is nothing for him. So he's good. 509 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 3: But he might geten or something like that, maybe. 510 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 2: A good frame. I think he gets bigger. 511 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, he got a big frame, So this may this 512 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 3: may be the sweet spot for him. This maybe just 513 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 3: where he needs to beat. But he's got the age advantage. 514 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 3: He's younger, he's twenty nine years old. He's got less 515 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 3: minds that right. He has never been beaten. So anytime 516 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 3: you've been knocked down or beat that that you you wear. 517 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 3: That that's a scar you gotta wear. He don't have 518 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,479 Speaker 3: that scar going into this fight. But Zerdo does. I 519 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,719 Speaker 3: like Zerdo style. He's tall, he's rangy, and he's steady 520 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 3: and consistent. He's got good punch selection, he's got good pop. 521 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 3: I mean, he's a three time world champion for a reason. 522 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 3: So if Zerdo Ramirez can weather those storms without taking 523 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 3: too much punishment and getting hit too much and keep 524 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 3: that thing tight into the back cap of the stretch, 525 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 3: he's got a shot to try to implement his style, 526 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 3: which is pressure and just that grinding presence. But he 527 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 3: also can box when he wants to as well. And 528 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 3: I want to see how much he boxes and how 529 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 3: much he fights, because in our interview with him, it 530 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 3: sounds like he want to do both all at the 531 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 3: same time, and you can't do both all at the 532 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 3: same time. You gotta choose win the box and win 533 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 3: the slug and for David Benavida's man. Can he conquer 534 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 3: another weight class? Can he go out there and become 535 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 3: a two time cruiserweight champion and then a five time 536 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 3: world champion on a single Demile weekend, just from one 537 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 3: fight and one fight alone. That's the questions we have. 538 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 3: So I don't have a prediction, but I think it's 539 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 3: going to be a great fight that I give David 540 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 3: benavide a slight edge too. Right, this is sixty forty 541 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 3: situation for me, maybe a little bit more in his 542 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 3: favorite maybe sixty five thirty five, But that's just because 543 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 3: he hasn't lost. We haven't seen that blueprint. And even 544 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 3: if guys have good rounds, they don't have good fights 545 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 3: against him. Ultimately they wear down mentally, physically, emotionally, and 546 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 3: David Benavidez takes over and he ultimately stops guys or 547 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 3: beats them up and gets his hands race. Will that 548 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 3: happen again against two time cruiserweight champion Zoto Ramirez. I'm 549 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 3: single to mile. They don't want to give a big 550 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 3: shout out to Sacramento States, All American Ayana Gonzalez. She 551 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 3: is the first female to win the NCBA National Championship 552 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 3: for Combat You. We just put out an episode last week. 553 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 3: It's on All the Smoke Fight right now. Shout out 554 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 3: to the Sacramento State President, Luke Woods. Shout out to 555 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 3: Brendan gozales Man. He brought me in as a general 556 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 3: manager sometime last year to help build this program, bring 557 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 3: notoriety to the program and help these athletes go from 558 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 3: just competing to winning. And Ayana Gonzalez, she's doing that. 559 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 3: She's doing her thing, man, Ayana, keep working, keep grinding. 560 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 3: When I interviewed you a couple of weeks ago, when 561 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 3: I asked you, I said, man, you've been around the 562 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 3: fight game a long time and you got to be 563 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 3: a little bit different to fight. I said, what type 564 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 3: of fighter are you? When you get hit? Do you 565 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 3: want to get it back? Are you trying to cover 566 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 3: up and protect yourself? Said? Nah, I want to. I 567 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 3: want to put them on the floor. I want to 568 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 3: knock him out since I respect it. Keep working your 569 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 3: craft man, Great things to come, y'all. Go check out 570 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 3: the Combat You program. It's a tremendous collegiate program for 571 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 3: many combat sports and disciplines. Shout out to your RYD Favor, 572 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 3: who's over the MMA portion of it Doctor Luke wood Man, 573 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 3: he's doing a great thing, not just with Combat you, 574 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 3: but for Sack State as a whole. Shaquille O'Neil is 575 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 3: the general manager of the basketball team, so it's a 576 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 3: who's who type of place to be right now. Sacramento 577 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 3: State is the place to be and great things are 578 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 3: happening up there in sack Man, So shout out Combat You, 579 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 3: shout out the whole team, and shout out Ayana Gonzalez. 580 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 3: Keep doing what you're doing. Sis. That's it for us 581 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 3: today on the Hall of Game. You know we're gonna 582 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 3: keep bringing that heat. You know, that's what we do. 583 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 3: I want to thank my co host Roy Jones Junior. 584 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 3: I'm gonna thank y'all the viewing audience man that continues 585 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 3: to tap in with us. You continue to make this platform. 586 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 3: All the Smoke Fight and every show we do, Hall 587 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 3: of Game and all the others continue to grow and man, 588 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 3: it's just a powerful thing. I appreciate y'all. We'll see 589 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 3: you next time.