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Speaker 1: The John Annick and Kenny Florian podcast John Annick and

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Speaker 1: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 2: I love him.

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Speaker 3: I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 4: Big job, and.

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Speaker 2: There are a couple of absolutely self involved You're.

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Speaker 1: Your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 5: It is the eve of April Fool's Day. Anybody out

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Speaker 5: there like April Fool's Day. I got Bruce Buffer back

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Speaker 5: in the day. I told him about two weeks after

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Speaker 5: he gave me a hardcore poker lesson that I had

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Speaker 5: lost ten thousand dollars playing poker, and he was very distraught.

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Speaker 5: And then I told him I was just kidding because

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Speaker 5: he can be of the gullible variety, and I didn't

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Speaker 5: want to drag him along too long. It could have

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Speaker 5: been really good, but I cut it down after about

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Speaker 5: you know, fifteen seconds.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I love the He's also of the warm up variety.

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Speaker 4: I love the video that you're bro. Jason Annik posted

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Speaker 4: of the classic Bruce Buffer pre fight warm up Dude.

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Speaker 4: It's classic. It's so good.

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Speaker 5: Thankfully, Buff has established so much good will with everybody,

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Speaker 5: and he is the greatest of all time that he

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Speaker 5: can do that. I mean, can you imagine the wrath

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Speaker 5: that would come my way if I was stretching like

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Speaker 5: that before the broadcast.

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Speaker 4: Got to get those adductors, dude, no groin pulls. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Great to have everybody with us. It is Monday, March

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Speaker 5: thirty first the Year's twenty twenty five, Episode five forty four,

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Speaker 5: the Ancmploring Podcast presented by DraftKings DraftKings. The crown is

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Speaker 5: yours thanks to everybody joining us live on YouTube today.

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Speaker 5: Laura Sanko coming up in about five minutes. Great job

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Speaker 5: by her on the sticks. This week we will also

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Speaker 5: recap that with the general safe soyot he was in

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Speaker 5: the winning corner in the main event, Brandon Moreno so

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Speaker 5: ken Flow. I wasn't necessarily going to lead the show

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Speaker 5: with this, but in the nature I guess of benefiting

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Speaker 5: Joe Pifer who had to pull out of the fight

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Speaker 5: due to illness. You know, that's the closest I've ever

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Speaker 5: come to, you know, shit in my pants on live TV. Right,

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Speaker 5: it only happened once. It could be aging, right, you know,

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Speaker 5: I don't know if I'll ever be around what you know,

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Speaker 5: in an era in which I have to wear a

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Speaker 5: diaper to the booth. But I just want to say

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Speaker 5: I try to keep it pretty clean with the diet,

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Speaker 5: and be careful over there in Mexico City, one of

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Speaker 5: the greatest live event crowds I've ever experienced, but ken flow,

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Speaker 5: there is something in the water. It is undeniable.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I that goes for pretty much all of

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Speaker 4: Latin America. You know, my parents grew up in Peru,

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Speaker 4: been to Brazil so many times. You have to be

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Speaker 4: so careful brushing your teeth, don't swallow any water, be

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 4: It's just a different way of life over there. And yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's unfortunate for Pifer Man. I was looking for to

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Speaker 4: I had five hundred bucks on the guy man. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I hope people will give Joe the benefit of the

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Speaker 5: doubt because even in our fighter meeting, he had fallen

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Speaker 5: ill and then recovered, and it just seemed like every

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Speaker 5: I've had a hard time. You know since I've gotten

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Speaker 5: fatal error at the airport with a cup of coffee

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Speaker 5: with Dean Thomas and Jason Annik. But we have our

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Speaker 5: lead guest on the program and on Toime no Less.

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Speaker 5: Of course he's two minutes early right. UFC commentator Brazilian

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Speaker 5: jiu jitsu savant former mixed martial arts Adam Waite. The

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Speaker 5: Great Laura Sanco is with us. Laura, welcome back to

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Speaker 5: the United States of America. It's great to thank you.

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Speaker 7: Are we telling diarrhea stories?

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean I've basically been pissing out my

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Speaker 5: But I just hope people will give Joe the benefit

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Speaker 7: John I I think.

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Speaker 8: I went down there fearless, and I mean, knock on everything.

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Speaker 5: I did the same thing. I had lettuce tomato, I

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Speaker 5: it was that final meal and we won't reveal the restaurant. Well,

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Speaker 5: it's great to see you. So how did you feel

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Speaker 7: I mean, I thought the crowd was incredible.

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Speaker 8: It was the energy down in Mexico City is something special.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I haven't watched it back, and I don't even

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Speaker 7: Well, I think we saw a lot of on this card.

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Speaker 7: So much power. I mean, I could go down the

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Speaker 5: are not gonna make you do a cow call today.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if that video on your Instagram was recent,

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Speaker 5: right you our co worker Danny, that was okay on

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Speaker 5: this trip? You never know, right you guys essentially comparing

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Speaker 8: When you have cattle, you have to develop a rapport

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Speaker 8: And on our ranch we do what's called rotational grazing,

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Speaker 7: In my mind, I just remember, and this is such

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Speaker 4: Do you think that fight happens, Laura, I do.

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Speaker 5: So all right, last question with the Great Laura Sanko.

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Speaker 5: So it seems as though the word on the streets

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Speaker 4: Bowl, righty?

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Speaker 7: So we're hoping to make the babies. So it'll be you.

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Speaker 8: Know, three issue years before I can really answer that question.

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Speaker 7: For absolutely.

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Speaker 7: Ownership is where it's at.

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Speaker 5: John, I'm telling you all right, follow this amazing mixed

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Speaker 5: martial arts commentator in mind at Laura Underscore Sanko. I

444
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Speaker 5: know it's a quick term. We appreciate your time, enjoy

445
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Speaker 5: the week at home, and uh we will see you

446
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Speaker 5: down the line, my dear, thank you so much for thanks.

447
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Speaker 6: John.

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Speaker 5: All right there she has Lourasanka with us live on

449
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Speaker 5: the Anak and Florian podcast. And I don't think Cody's

450
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Speaker 5: wrong in the chat to suggest this, and certainly it's

451
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Speaker 5: not some novel concept, right, but I think he's wise

452
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Speaker 5: to suggest it. Harold Letterman, Okay, Jim, how did Harold

453
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Speaker 5: Letterman have the round? I would love it if Dean

454
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Speaker 5: Thomas could give us a scorecard, right, I mean, for

455
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Speaker 5: all the money they're paying Dean Thomas to fucking sit

456
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Speaker 5: there and chime in two or three times a fight,

457
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Speaker 5: can't I.

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Speaker 4: Kind of like it? Oh, I kind of like it.

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Speaker 4: I like hearing, you know, the commentators give their take, right,

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Speaker 4: especially in a sport where a lot of the fans

461
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Speaker 4: don't know what's going on and they you know, why

462
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Speaker 4: not have the experts, the guys who have fought, the

463
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Speaker 4: guys been watching thousands of fights, give their take on

464
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Speaker 4: who's winning the fight based on what they've been seeing.

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Speaker 4: You know, I mean you tea, you know, you definitely

466
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Speaker 4: talk about it. If you think it's a bad decision,

467
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Speaker 4: you let us know. And I think that's important, you know,

468
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Speaker 4: and kind of speaking for the fans, if.

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Speaker 5: You will selectively, I do, and I think your point

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Speaker 5: is well taken. Sometimes I will qualify it even on

471
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Speaker 5: the air and say our scorecards aren't necessarily the most reliable,

472
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Speaker 5: especially mine, because there are times where a producer might

473
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Speaker 5: say to me, hey, can I borrow you for forty

474
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Speaker 5: five seconds? And that might be because of something promotionally

475
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Speaker 5: that we have to do, or an advertisement or something

476
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Speaker 5: like that. But sometimes, and I know Dominic Cruz and

477
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Speaker 5: Joe Rogan have talked about this, Kenny. When it's a

478
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Speaker 5: three man booth, sometimes you can really just sit back

479
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Speaker 5: and analyze the mixed martial arts without talking because there

480
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Speaker 5: is another talking head to your right. And I also

481
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Speaker 5: think as commentators you can get caught watching one guy

482
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Speaker 5: a little bit. There is also an angle component of this,

483
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Speaker 5: right you have judges on different sides, and like Rogan

484
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Speaker 5: watches the action ninety percent of the time, I watch

485
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Speaker 5: the monitor ninety percent of the time, in some part

486
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Speaker 5: because I'm the play by play guy and that's the

487
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Speaker 5: angle that's being presented at home. But I think it's fair.

488
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Speaker 5: I just for me. I can assure you. If I

489
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Speaker 5: was an analyst and not a play by play guy

490
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Speaker 5: and they were asking me to put my score on

491
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Speaker 5: the screen between rounds, I'd be like, no, I mean,

492
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Speaker 5: I gotta want to be held to that. But I

493
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Speaker 5: hear what you're saying.

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Speaker 4: All right.

495
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Speaker 5: A lot more to get into on the UFC fight

496
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Speaker 5: memberno versus erseeg headlines watched by Quervo. Now's a good

497
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Speaker 5: time to enjoy the tequila that invented tequila. By the way,

498
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Speaker 5: did you see the news over the weekend that Kogi

499
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Speaker 5: Horra Gucci is back in the UFC.

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Speaker 4: Bro I love it. I love it, man. It's exactly

501
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 4: what that division needs. He's a fantastic fighter, he's exciting.

502
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Speaker 4: He's been trying to get back in for a while.

503
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Speaker 4: I remember him well when he was in the UFC,

504
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Speaker 4: and I always thought that was a guy that could

505
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Speaker 4: hold the belt in the UFC, for short.

506
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Speaker 5: Might be the best flyweight in the world, alongside his teammate,

507
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Speaker 5: his American Top Team stablemate, Alesandre Pantosia. So very interesting

508
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Speaker 5: things at one hundred and twenty five pounds, and not

509
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Speaker 5: the least of which was what happened over the weekend

510
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Speaker 5: The Assassin baby Brandon Moreno. Man, is this guy easy

511
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Speaker 5: to root for? I would say the same about his opponent.

512
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Speaker 5: My good friend Steve astro Boyer say, but it is

513
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 5: Moreno by unanimous decision forty nine, forty six. And you've

514
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Speaker 5: trained with the man, you know him well. I thought

515
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Speaker 5: he looked out standing. What were your thoughts on the

516
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Speaker 5: main event? Can flop?

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Speaker 4: He's looking better than ever, John. You know, it's great

518
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Speaker 4: to see a guy at that level, who has tasted

519
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Speaker 4: that level of success continue to improve and get better

520
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Speaker 4: as a mixed martial arts fighter. He just looks so

521
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Speaker 4: at ease and like he's having fun again when he's

522
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Speaker 4: fighting and he's showing his techniques. That's the key thing.

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Speaker 4: He just he looks like he's leading the dance the

524
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Speaker 4: whole way. And I know er Seg was right there

525
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Speaker 4: with him. You know, had a great fight. But Brandon Moreno,

526
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 4: just that much better, and to do it in that

527
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 4: spot in Mexico, that's a dream win right there.

528
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Speaker 5: So some people, my twin brother and we had some

529
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,640
Speaker 5: conversations with DC as well about this after the fact,

530
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Speaker 5: sort of Dean Thomas too, that Erseg wasn't necessarily sitting

531
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Speaker 5: down and committing necessarily maybe abandoned somebody up the middle weapons.

532
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Speaker 5: You know, it seemed like the front kick was there

533
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 5: and was inches away from landing. Didn't necessarily stay consistent

534
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Speaker 5: with that light kicks. Maybe he abandoned a little bit,

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Speaker 5: you know. I think maybe you can say there was

536
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Speaker 5: some hesitancy based upon the Kaikata France knockout lost not

537
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Speaker 5: all that long ago. But I do believe as amazing

538
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Speaker 5: technically and mechanically as Steve Erseg was here, you know

539
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Speaker 5: a little bit more commitment to those frontal weapons might

540
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Speaker 5: have produced a different result. He seemed a little bit

541
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Speaker 5: surprised that he didn't win the fight, and I thought

542
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Speaker 5: there was an argument he lost all five rounds.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, No, absolutely, And I think that a lot of

544
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Speaker 4: it is the perception of it, in my perception of

545
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Speaker 4: what I'm watching, when Erseg's going out there, and competing,

546
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Speaker 4: and it's the same thing you showed in the Pantosia fight.

547
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Speaker 4: It's that he's kind of getting big brothers out there,

548
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Speaker 4: like I don't see that. There's there's flashes of him

549
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 4: trying to take charge, trying to initiate those exchanges, but

550
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 4: there's a lot of watching going on in waiting, and

551
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 4: I think that's where he kind of slips up and

552
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,679
Speaker 4: allows these guys to get back in the fight. Not

553
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Speaker 4: to mention defensively getting hit with big shots that really

554
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Speaker 4: make more of an impact while you're watching the fight.

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Speaker 4: You know, as I'm watching, it's like he's he's landing shots,

556
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Speaker 4: but I don't see any kind of reaction from Moreno,

557
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Speaker 4: And Moreno lands a big shot and I see er

558
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Speaker 4: Sake's head kind of fly back a little bit. I'm like, well,

559
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Speaker 4: that's a more effective strike right there. It is actually

560
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Speaker 4: clear that hit him harder than he was hit. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Ers gets hit. I feel like I'm watching the

562
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Speaker 5: Jetsons for a second, right remember the jetss Kent Flow.

563
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Speaker 5: I don't know if his nickname. Does his nickname come

564
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Speaker 5: from that show? I don't think so.

565
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Speaker 4: I don't know, No, I don't think so.

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Speaker 5: A lot of our younger listeners and viewers are google nds.

567
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Speaker 5: The Jetson's right now, so Cody, you can chase the

568
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Speaker 5: poll results. For me, I kind of want to live

569
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Speaker 5: in this Moreno win for a little bit if I could.

570
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Speaker 5: And I will say, I feel like maybe the loudest

571
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 5: ovations of the night were reserved for Raoul Rosas Junior

572
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 5: and Lupi Godinez. But you know, Brandon Moreno would love

573
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Speaker 5: to fight, not at seventy three hundred and fifty feet

574
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 5: above sea level, Kenny, you know what I mean, But

575
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Speaker 5: he sort of intimates in our fighter meeting, you know

576
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Speaker 5: who else. And at least right now you have Yaya

577
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Speaker 5: Rodriguez and Alexa Grosso and this budding stable of young

578
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 5: UFC stars coming up Ronaldo Rodriguez who lost this weekend,

579
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Speaker 5: But at least right now in Mexico, Brandon Moreno is

580
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 5: the man. And in terms of sort of that and

581
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Speaker 5: that initiative and that reality, this was a huge, huge

582
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Speaker 5: moment and win for him.

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Speaker 4: No question. And I think that what's cool about that,

584
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Speaker 4: John is the fact that Brandon he was kind of

585
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Speaker 4: that underdog guy, that guy that kind of slipped through

586
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Speaker 4: the cracks. Oh wow, look at him. That's cute. He's

587
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 4: doing really well. But now he's actually a guy that

588
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 4: is leading the pack and really in his own obviously

589
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 4: was a champion in that division and still looking better

590
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 4: than ever man. And if there's a guy that deserves

591
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 4: a fourth shot at a guy who was beating him

592
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Speaker 4: in Pantosia, I think it's Brandon Moreno because right now

593
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 4: he really is shining. In my opinion, this is a

594
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 4: different Brandon Moreno than the last time they fought. So, yeah, Astro.

595
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Speaker 5: Boy was a cartoon, by the way, but I would

596
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Speaker 5: encourage everybody to uh check out the Jetsons. So and yeah,

597
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Speaker 5: maybe the Jetson's dog's name was Astro as I was

598
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 5: more thinking Astro. Yeah, so I was more thinking though,

599
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,479
Speaker 5: just what I'm seeing the Jetsons fly all around everywhere?

600
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 5: You know, we're saying getting hooting hitting these you know,

601
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Speaker 5: he looks a little bit like the jets fly around everywhere.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, it's been a long night, Okay, pole

603
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Speaker 5: question for today's live edition of the anak Imploring podcast.

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Speaker 5: Off of the top contenders listed here, which Flywaight is

605
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 5: best equipped to beat UFC champion Alesandre Pantosi. We gave

606
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 5: you Brandon Moreno, Kaika de France, Manel Cop, and Pantosa's

607
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 5: teammate Kyogi Horra Gucci. So plenty of time to cast

608
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Speaker 5: geor Vogue on the X machine. But forty four point

609
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 5: two percent of you, I can't even read the fucking results.

610
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Speaker 5: I'm trying to read the results the kid fucking polls.

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Speaker 5: Forty four point two percent of you believe but Brandon

612
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Speaker 5: Moreno is best equipped to beat Pantoja despite the three

613
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Speaker 5: head to head losses against him. Seventeen point two percent

614
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Speaker 5: Kai Kata Franz, twenty seven percent, Menel Cop, and eleven

615
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 5: point five percent of you say Kyogi Horgucci perhaps not

616
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 5: acutely familiar with his body of work. And uh, I

617
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 5: do think maybe for the ultimate prize, I would speculate

618
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 5: that they would fight, but not necessarily the ideal world

619
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Speaker 5: for those two. All right, So Manel Cop and Brandon

620
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 5: Moreno have both won two in a row. Kai Conti France,

621
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Speaker 5: I think, on the strength of that knockout win over

622
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Speaker 5: Steve Verseeg is going to be next. I don't know

623
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Speaker 5: exactly when that is going to be. Who do you

624
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Speaker 5: think is the flyway right like to save a dog's

625
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 5: life that you would send in there to beat Pantoja,

626
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Speaker 5: given how otherworldly he has looked of.

627
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Speaker 4: Late geez U, I'd say maybe menel Cop. I knew

628
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Speaker 4: you were going to say that. I was probably menell Cop.

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Speaker 4: You know me, Man, I really like his style, dude.

630
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Speaker 5: So manel Cop fought Alechandre Pantosia. I believe in what

631
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Speaker 5: was menel CoP's short notice UFC debut, sometime around twenty

632
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 5: twenty one. So yeah, I mean they all have a

633
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 5: unique sort of attribute or two that they bring to

634
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Speaker 5: the table. I think Ki Conta frances it's sort of

635
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 5: the power and experience. I think for Moreno it's that

636
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 5: he is I think his best version to date. And

637
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 5: you know he's so emotional. Moreno is because of the

638
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 5: hard work, right, because of the full month at altitude.

639
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 5: And Kenny, I know you fought in Broomfield, Colorado was

640
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 5: one of your better performances. You actually probably should stop

641
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 5: punching the guy and shown some mercy at that point

642
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 5: of the fight. But Kenny, you know, I'm a runner,

643
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 5: and this is a very real thing. I know it

644
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 5: affects people differently, you know, but it's not ideal for athletes.

645
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 5: To have to compete at seventy three hundred and fifty

646
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Speaker 5: feet above sea level.

647
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Speaker 4: It's no joke, man, you know, just going up the

648
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 4: stairs could be a huge effort. And I remember that

649
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 4: fight really well. When I was there to fight Joe Loson,

650
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 4: and obviously there was a a lot of competitiveness, a

651
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,719
Speaker 4: lot of talk going back and forth, and to make

652
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 4: matters worse, I actually wasn't able to train for that fight.

653
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Speaker 4: Like three four weeks before that fight, I was pretty

654
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 4: badly injured with a back injury, so I was really

655
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 4: nervous before then. But yeah, it's it's really difficult that

656
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 4: my initial reaction when I did like a hard pad workout,

657
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 4: it's like my first hard workout in weeks, and I

658
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 4: felt like the air was super thin. I could not

659
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 4: get a good breath. I had pains in my chest.

660
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 4: It was that bad. And thankfully, you know, the fight

661
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 4: went well. But and the other thing to note is

662
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 4: that it affects everybody very differently. You know, I'm sure

663
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 4: there's a certain mental element to it, but the physical

664
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Speaker 4: element is one hundred percent real. It will affect your

665
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 4: ability to get oxygen and perform well. I mean, we've

666
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 4: seen a lot of guys who are known to be

667
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 4: cardio machines, like Caine Velasquez in Mexico City, have a

668
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 4: terrible performance because, you know, because of that altitude. So again,

669
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 4: and there's a lot of examples of that, but the

670
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 4: altitude is very real and you have to prepare acordingly.

671
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 5: And for me, as someone who runs regularly, if you

672
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 5: care right, running was certainly harder over there. But it's

673
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 5: almost just the more minimalistic movements, right, just even walking

674
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 5: around or going upstairs, you feel like you need an inhaler.

675
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 5: I did take a swad of Dcason Hailer in the

676
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 5: dressing room before the fighter was trying to catch a buzz,

677
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 5: get a little oxygen in there, and yeah, it's a real,

678
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 5: real thing. Well, congratulations to Brandon Moreno. In terms of

679
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 5: Steve Verseg, right, I think defense is a word that

680
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 5: I had in my notes. So what do you do now, right,

681
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 5: because you need to shore up your defense, right. I

682
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 5: guess footwork maybe is a big part of this, but

683
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 5: like coaching is a big part of this. What do

684
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 5: you do if you're Steve Verseg to try to maybe

685
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 5: focus on defense in the next three months before your

686
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 5: next fight?

687
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, so just look at I think it was this

688
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 4: fourth fight in the UFC where he fought for the belt,

689
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 4: So I think a couple things. I think he needs

690
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 4: to kind of tone down the level of competition a

691
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 4: little bit and kind of reboot, right, do a little reset,

692
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 4: a little reboot, get some more experience, and you are

693
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 4: one hundred percent spot on in regards to defense. That

694
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 4: was the thing that really stood out to me is

695
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 4: it's one thing to get hit with shots. You're going

696
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 4: to do that at the highest levels. That's fine, but

697
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 4: avoiding a way to take those big shots. Sometimes being

698
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 4: the taller, rangier guy, if you don't have a good

699
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 4: particular style, it could be a disadvantage. And I think

700
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 4: it kind of is in a lot of ways. That

701
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 4: chin goes really high, he drops that hand a little bit,

702
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 4: and as a result gets hit with some big shots.

703
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 4: So I think defensively, he's got to be able to

704
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 4: move that head. He has to look for ways to

705
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 4: cut angles. Not watch his work after his landing and

706
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 4: think that, hey, I'm the longer, you know guy, I

707
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 4: can kind of stay in there and just establish my job. Well,

708
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 4: it doesn't really work that way. So establishing that job

709
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 4: with a little bit more emphasis, a little more pop

710
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 4: and knowing when to get out, when to get in, cuttings,

711
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 4: moving that head. But for sure, the defensive aspects of

712
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 4: that fight I think is where he lost it.

713
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, congratulations to Brandon Moreno. He certainly laid

714
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 5: out a good foundation to compete for the championship, not

715
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 5: only in octagon with performance, but after the fact, trying

716
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 5: to get Hunter Campbell face to face UFC three twenty.

717
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 5: I believe in September Mexican Independence Day weekend in Guadaljaa, Mexico.

718
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,719
Speaker 5: We announced that over the weekend and depending on how

719
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 5: things go in theory with Kakata France and all of

720
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 5: Chandre Pantoja as is the expectation, maybe Moreno could actually

721
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 5: leap frog the wildly entertaining Menel cop. You just never know.

722
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 5: More on that coming up with the general Safe saoud

723
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 5: in about thirty two minutes Longo coming up actually in

724
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 5: two minutes. But I want to get to Manuel Torres

725
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 5: if I could. It was very interesting in the Fighter

726
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 5: meeting can Flow. Manuel Torres and Drew Dover were calculatedly

727
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 5: put in that comain event because they are both knockout artists,

728
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 5: right our fighter meetings had two guys talking about patience, evolution,

729
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 5: and discipline for the better part of a quarter of

730
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 5: an hour. It's still ends up around one result. It's

731
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Speaker 5: Manuel Torres with all the viciousness at one forty five

732
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 5: of round one. Your thoughts on the comin event.

733
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,439
Speaker 4: Man, Manuel Torres is mean dude, He's mean. He wants

734
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 4: to hurt you. He has that fighter inside him. And

735
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 4: you know, you can talk about patients all you want,

736
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 4: but I don't see that going away at all.

737
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 5: What do I mean?

738
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 4: It's every single shot he's not trying to hurt you

739
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 4: or knock you out. It's like he's trying to decapitate

740
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 4: you with every single shot. I mean, it's all bad

741
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 4: intentions all the way around. Whether it's a kick or

742
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 4: a punch or a knee, he's trying to hurt you.

743
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 4: And that was evident. What a nasty right hand dude,

744
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 4: and that's why I was kind of very bullish on him.

745
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 4: Ended up doing extremely well against a guy with a

746
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 4: ton of fights who is very dangerous himself. And to

747
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 4: get that when I think was really really really really

748
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 4: impressive in a spot again in Mexico City. Doesn't get

749
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 4: much better than that, so.

750
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 5: Drew Dober said, fighter meeting, Can I be the more

751
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 5: evolved fighter? Can I be the more disciplined fighter? Can

752
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 5: I let him be the more enthusiastic fighter? And the

753
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 5: result was not a good one for Drew Dober And

754
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 5: in terms of that whole mentality, right, I sort of

755
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 5: went back at true and I said, you're trying to

756
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 5: pass dustin Pourier and become the most decorated, at least

757
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 5: on paper knockout artists, and you have s lightweight history.

758
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 5: So there's a little bit of a yin and yang there, right,

759
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 5: putting yourself in position to produce those results, right, And

760
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 5: I think maybe getting away from his true stripes, at

761
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 5: least in mentality, I think could maybe be a problem

762
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 5: at whatever stage of a fighting career. I didn't know

763
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 5: if he had any thoughts on that.

764
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 4: Well, you always have to take an account the guy

765
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 4: that's across from you. And if you've watched min well Torres,

766
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 4: and if you've done your homework, you realize you have

767
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 4: to very carefully pick your spots where you're going to

768
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 4: trade with someone like that. Because as big as Drew

769
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 4: Dober is, Torres is even bigger. He's got you know

770
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 4: bigger range from what I could tell, and he obviously

771
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 4: hits extremely hard, so I think for him, I think

772
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 4: he was in the wrong spot at the wrong time.

773
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 4: He tried with a lot of determination on that low

774
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 4: level single, but clearly ate a lot of shots and

775
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 4: you know, they stopped the fight a little bit late,

776
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 4: but showed a lot of heart there. Unfortunate for Drew Dover,

777
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 4: who is always exciting, but you have to be really

778
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 4: mindful when you have another knockout artist across from me.

779
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,919
Speaker 5: All right, longo coming up in sixty seconds with more

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Speaker 1: Raise on, hold, it's now times for the Ray Longo Minute.

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Speaker 3: What's a whole? That's what I watch?

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00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: The Ray Longo Minute the John Nick and Kenny Florian podcast.

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Speaker 5: So Cody text me yesterday as I'm putting the rundown

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Speaker 5: for the show together, would you like longgo at eleven

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00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 5: thirty am Eastern Standard Time? And I almost wrote back

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Speaker 5: like is that rhetorical? Did you watch the show last week?

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00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:33,200
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Speaker 5: good to see you right here right on the screws

822
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 5: eleven thirty. How are we feeling?

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Speaker 6: Very good? Guys? How we doing today? Guys? Look unbelievable

824
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:41,720
Speaker 6: on this Monday morning.

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Speaker 5: It's always great to see you. What is your experience

826
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 5: with altitude, either cornering training and otherwise.

827
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 9: Oh, it has a big effect on everything. Definitely that

828
00:38:54,520 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 9: big effect. By my only experience Colorado me I felt

829
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 9: it myself and I told you at the time. I

830
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 9: think Frank Edga's first fight with Green Maine that I

831
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 9: had Saderopolis on that card, right, and he was an

832
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 9: energizer bunny and his lips were blue after that first round.

833
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 9: I mean, thank god he got the guy out in

834
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 9: the second round, but he definitely felt it. And I

835
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 9: think it's definitely for real.

836
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Speaker 5: It's just so interesting, right because that is two thousand

837
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 5: or so feet yeah, less than Mexico City, Right, And

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00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 5: you know, sometimes I sort of wonder the extent to

839
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 5: which we should lean into these, either on broadcast or otherwise. Right,

840
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 5: And I didn't hear many of the athletes talk about

841
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 5: it after the fact, but it has a profound impact.

842
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 5: Ray I felt it right away.

843
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, so yeah, yeah, yeah.

844
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,240
Speaker 5: Yeah so all right, So Brandon Burno over Steve ursag

845
00:39:58,280 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 5: if I could get your thoughts on the main event.

846
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 5: I really fucking like that.

847
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 6: Uh yeah, I mean close cloak. I think kind of

848
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 6: a close fight.

849
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 9: I mean, I think the difference is just looked like

850
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 9: he had no clue how to get out of the

851
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 9: way of the right hand. He just kept getting hit

852
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 9: with big shots. He looked like the more technical of

853
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 9: the two. We had a great jab going for himself.

854
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 9: He hit some combos. But you know, I I you know,

855
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 9: it's one of those fights. I could see thinking he

856
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 9: won the fight, right, and because he's got the jab

857
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 9: pop and he's hitting combos, he's getting hit.

858
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 6: It looks like it's bad tusks.

859
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 9: Maybe it wasn't bad to him, but the optics on

860
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 9: that it was one guy throwing really big and doing

861
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Speaker 9: I don't know, while you laughing, you said the same

862
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 9: thing exactly.

863
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's kind of.

864
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 5: You know, Kenny laughing. Why is Kenny laughing? I mean,

865
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 5: why am I laughing? Because you used to bang on

866
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 5: people who use the word optics and now it's every

867
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Speaker 5: other word.

868
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 9: No, no, no, I think I think I think al

869
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 9: Jo created that. I don't even know for some reason.

870
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 9: I just think al Jo with the optics. I don't

871
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 9: know if that's where I got it from or I

872
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 9: don't even know. I could I could have made it up,

873
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 9: I could have stole it. I have no idea at

874
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 9: this point, but I know he brings it up, and

875
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 9: I think it is true. Though optics counts a lot,

876
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 9: you know, I think, and I think it came that

877
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 9: word comes to because we all tried to figure out

878
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 9: what the judges that think in the see and and

879
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 9: that's how I kind of, you know, in trying to

880
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 9: determine that. I think that's where we came up with that,

881
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 9: or or somebody came up with it.

882
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,399
Speaker 6: But yeah, so I think that was the whole fight.

883
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 6: He never did anything. He never moved to his right,

884
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 6: maybe you know what I mean.

885
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 9: He just looked like every time he got one guy

886
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 9: was swinging like again, almost almost look wild. But Moreno

887
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 9: is tough and he's got that Mexican blood. So I

888
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 9: don't know, but I think it was if you broke

889
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 9: it down. It was a close fight, but you had

890
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 9: to give the rounds to Moreno, and he did land

891
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:00,760
Speaker 9: the biggest shots.

892
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 6: I don't know. I thought that the first line of

893
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,399
Speaker 6: order in that fight should have been let's let's move

894
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 6: to our right. Let's see if we can minimize minimize

895
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 6: the damage.

896
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 5: It all right, and there he goes right. Yeah, he'll

897
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 5: be back. He'll be back in a big way to

898
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 5: complete the Ray Longo minute. I am gonna ask him

899
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 5: about Mirob Dwallis, Willi and Rabul Rosas Junior. But I

900
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 5: want to give Ray a chance.

901
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 6: Oh I'm sorry, but there he is. Yeah, but uh

902
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 6: but anyway that that's the fight to me, I don't know.

903
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, so Mirob Dwallis Willy has spent a lot of

904
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 5: time training with Raboul Rosas Junior. I know you haven't

905
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 5: necessarily been privy to that training, but Rosas Junior is

906
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 5: twenty years old. He has five UFC wins against one loss. Right,

907
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 5: he talks in such a thoughtful way Kenny and Ray

908
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 5: about like Patchie mixes guillotine and how it's the best

909
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 5: guillotine in MMn. He's been in it so many dives, right,

910
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 5: Like this kid is accruing so many amazing epitions in

911
00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 5: octagon and in training that I hate this phrase theology,

912
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,439
Speaker 5: but Ray, the sky is the limit.

913
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 6: You're not a kid, and I'll tell you. And I

914
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 6: just found myself going chewe wie chee wee. I don't

915
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 6: even know. You think he's onto something Kenny with that, No, John,

916
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 6: I love it. He's got the chewee we he's out there.

917
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 2: No.

918
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 6: I thought that was a great fight for him.

919
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:23,919
Speaker 9: And uh, he was in some bad positions, but that's

920
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 9: the beauty of training with good guys. Once you've been

921
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 9: there and you're not gonna panic, and you could ride

922
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 9: it out. The other guy's going to burn his arms

923
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 9: out a little bit.

924
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 2: It was.

925
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 9: It was a good fight. I'm surprised because, yeah, he

926
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 9: is position. I thought the other guys from uh was

927
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:41,760
Speaker 9: the other guy from Syndicate.

928
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 5: There's some crossover there. Yeah Streme coach.

929
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 4: I don't even know, I know, but yeah, right, that

930
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 4: hasn't and I think maybe this is where what what

931
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 4: John was alluding to. Has Morob said anything about training

932
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 4: with with Torres and and what he thinks ross sorry

933
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 4: about Rossus and what he thinks about his potential.

934
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 5: No, and either as Aljo No they have on the record,

935
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 5: just not to write because they maybe don't take your call.

936
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,720
Speaker 6: But yeah, they both put him in on the record.

937
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,720
Speaker 5: I'm saying, if you google right now, Alja main Sterling

938
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 5: ro rosas well. He has commented about how talented he

939
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 5: thinks the kid is. I'm saying, you know, they.

940
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 9: Had a beef at one point because I think he

941
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 9: after his first fight, he was calling for algia and

942
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 9: I think al Joe told him to slow down a

943
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 9: little bit. But uh, and then they kind of trained

944
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 9: after that maybe, but uh, yeah, nothing that I'll tell

945
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 9: you what. Nothing Like you know some stories you hear.

946
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 9: When you train with a guy, those stories go deep,

947
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 9: like you know, like this guy's you know, stay away

948
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 9: from that guy that.

949
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 6: You know, you know what I mean?

950
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 4: You he that was a story around Wideman right for you.

951
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 8: You know.

952
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 9: So yeah, I didn't hear that, and so you know, look,

953
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 9: the kid looks like he's really good. He's young, he's

954
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 9: got the hard he's got the dissire, and he looks

955
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 9: technically like he's getting better. Yeah, he's going to be

956
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 9: you know, I don't know if he'll be a champion,

957
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 9: but he's gonna be up there for sure.

958
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 5: That caption on that YouTube video that Cody just populated

959
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 5: on Aljim Sterling's YouTube was a line from Al Joe

960
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 5: that suggested Rosas Junior is shaping up to be the

961
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 5: future of my weight class. So well, I praise there

962
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 5: from Al John. I know, ma Rob Dallas Willie has

963
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 5: also praised the kid, Kenny, what did you think of

964
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 5: the twenty year old phenom if I can call him that,

965
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 5: Raoul Rosas Junior.

966
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 4: I saw improvements in a striking for sure. It was

967
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 4: great to see that that that's what I'm looking for.

968
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 4: It's like, okay, he's clearly talented. What is he doing

969
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 4: to get better? And he is definitely working on his striking.

970
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 4: I saw that. I think the way that he's integrating

971
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,919
Speaker 4: his strikes into his takedowns was looking sharper as well.

972
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 4: Still developing on the ground, and you know, he's good

973
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 4: on the ground. Got caught in a few of those

974
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 4: front chokes, right, But I mean that was that guy's

975
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 4: best move, you know, that's what he kept going for.

976
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 4: I would have liked to see a little bit more

977
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 4: avoidance of that position. But the fact that he kept

978
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 4: his composure like that and was able to get out

979
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 4: of some difficult spots, you know, giving the thumbs up

980
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 4: while he was, you know, getting his head choked off,

981
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 4: I think was really cool to see. And this guy

982
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 4: is twenty years old. I would not be able to

983
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 4: do that at twenty years old, to have that level

984
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 4: of composure and to compete at that level. I do

985
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 4: think this guy's a limit. I do also want to say,

986
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 4: though he is a developing fighter, this isn't one of

987
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 4: those things where it's like, hey, you know he's gonna

988
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 4: get the title shot this year. No, take your time, Yeah,

989
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 4: keep developing, keep accruing that octagon time and if things

990
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 4: are done correctly, he could set himself up to not

991
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 4: only fight for the belt, but win the belt. But yes,

992
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 4: the kid is talented, no question about it.

993
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 9: Yeah, and I'll say you the other thing is, you know,

994
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 9: some guys are just really super hard to choke out,

995
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 9: if you could even choke him out, And that's why

996
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 9: you need to bring Tenny floorri At you guy, damn

997
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 9: school at eating that shit up. Because all I heard

998
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 9: was head and on he tightened up the head and

999
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 9: Nom choked the head and m choked the head.

1000
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 6: M j Yeah. So you need somebody at that point

1001
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 6: you come.

1002
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 9: In and you might need one little just move your

1003
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 9: hips this way two inches and that choke is in.

1004
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 4: But you know what I mean.

1005
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 6: So yeah, I agree with Kenny. He said, take your time.

1006
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 9: You're twenty years old, You've been in bad positions in

1007
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:28,720
Speaker 9: the real fight. You're doing fine, don't get too cocky,

1008
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 9: keep on growing. And the fact that he could even

1009
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 9: get in the room with Al Joe and Morob, yeah,

1010
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 9: stayed there like, I'm not talking about compete with him,

1011
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 9: but just let them welcome them, welcome him into into

1012
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 9: training is a huge thing.

1013
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 4: Being around greatness is one of the best ways to

1014
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 4: be and you know, literally there's like science they say,

1015
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 4: of seeing someone perform at that level. It's just like

1016
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 4: it has an impact on you. And the fact that

1017
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 4: he's twenty years old and being around world champions on

1018
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 4: a regular basis is huge.

1019
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 9: And both of those guys are givers. I mean, they're

1020
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 9: both really super nice guys. You never really you know,

1021
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 9: grudges get squashed, you know, all that shit. So they

1022
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 9: if he could do it, like again, like have I

1023
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 9: heard about it? Well, we're talking. We're not, you know,

1024
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 9: going that deep. I mean, we're seeing what what he

1025
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 9: been doing lately, what's going on with this? With that

1026
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 9: you know, Algie was Alja was just out here. You know,

1027
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 9: we had the guy's fight and his brother fort So

1028
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 9: it's not coming up like that. But I think if

1029
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 9: it was something maybe extraordinary, maybe he has them.

1030
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 5: You guys said a lot of things there and I'll

1031
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 5: only take about twenty seconds to do this, But Kenny,

1032
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 5: you're right in terms of not finding himself in that

1033
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 5: choke repeatedly, while also saying that that's the dude's signature move.

1034
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 5: He's got a very nice cycle and of different front

1035
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 5: chokes like that and certainly the work was done by

1036
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 5: Roller Ross Sashchuni. He probably spent the bull of his

1037
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 5: training camp, you know, inside those and he has trained

1038
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 5: with Vince Morales Pryor, so very excited as all ways

1039
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 5: to see what they do from a matchmaking standpoint with

1040
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 5: Raul Rosas Junior. And the other thing Kenny brought up

1041
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 5: was just in terms of the championship trajectory, right, Like,

1042
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 5: if I were to ask you guys, who has a

1043
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 5: better chance to become UFC champion, Patty Pimblet or Raul

1044
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 5: Rosas Junior, you'd probably say Pimblet just because he's already

1045
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 5: gotten to the Michael Chandler fight. Right, So if he

1046
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 5: can beat Michael right, big if right. If he can

1047
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 5: beat Charles olivera big if, beat Islam Kasha a big if, right,

1048
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 5: But he's at least on the cusp for a r

1049
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 5: Roll Rosas Junior might have fifty UFC fights at some point,

1050
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 5: but you know, you got to sort of navigate the

1051
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 5: one hundred and thirty five pound waters and it's very

1052
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 5: difficult to do that without subsequent losses here and there.

1053
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 5: So yeah, all right, good stuff there on Roll Rosas Junior. Hey,

1054
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 5: what'd you think about doctor David Martinez, twenty six year old.

1055
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 5: I know it's one result against the guy in Simon

1056
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 5: Olivera who he was prohibitively favored to beat. But you know,

1057
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 5: the kid's twenty six. He's an orthopedic surgeon. Could make

1058
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 5: a ton of money doing that. He's not practicing now.

1059
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 5: I mean, doctor Gus Fyan you out there, man, is

1060
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 5: this your favorite clastic surgeon, right, Teddy?

1061
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 6: You gotta love that all baby, get him John.

1062
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 5: If you can get the adderall like, I'll buy it.

1063
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 5: I don't have any Adderall this is naturally sleepit the

1064
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 5: wheel doing the show or.

1065
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 6: This is great.

1066
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 5: Just trying to shout out my U, my godfather, Gus.

1067
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, Martinez is a stud man. Martinez is a stud.

1068
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 4: He he looked really good. You can see that karate influence.

1069
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 4: You know how he was blitzing getting in and getting

1070
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 4: out with his footwork.

1071
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 10: Uh.

1072
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 4: But you know, talk about talented man, geez, some guys

1073
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 4: have all the gifts and he's one of them. But

1074
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 4: to get again a result like that by knockout in

1075
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 4: front of those fans, man, that that's probably better than.

1076
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 3: A perfect surgery.

1077
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 5: I would imagine wowing that for a second. It is

1078
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 5: interesting though, because when we talk about these Mexican fighters

1079
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 5: that could take the torch from Brandon Moreno, who is

1080
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 5: still wick and relevant, right, but like Brandon certainly could

1081
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 5: use some help in Latin America.

1082
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 6: Right.

1083
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 5: Certainly Nascio Baamandez is a guy who looks like the

1084
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 5: real deal, right. But when you think about Edgar Chairez

1085
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 5: with a big result, huge frame for the flyweight division, right,

1086
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 5: Chirez has a reached of seventy one inches, DC's reaches

1087
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 5: seventy two, Mine seventy two for the record, just like DC.

1088
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 5: But Edgar Chiras, right, Manuel Torres certainly, Raoul Rosas Junior

1089
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 5: is American but has roots in that region. He speaks Spanish.

1090
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 5: Ronaldo Rodriguez, we will get to, right, But Kenny, it

1091
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 5: just it doesn't seem to me that and whether you're

1092
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 5: probing Lauras sank earlier that people are talking about David

1093
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 5: Martinez as a guy who could do it. Mexico City's

1094
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 5: own looks like a model. He'll fix your fucking torn

1095
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 5: acl and he's got all the skill. Like I don't know, man,

1096
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 5: but like I found myself thinking, like, dude, this kid

1097
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 5: ures a little English. He could be I mean, if

1098
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 5: he can, you know, it could be a big star.

1099
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 4: What a story man. Yeah, it's all.

1100
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 5: Ray So Ronaldo lazy Boy Rodriguez. Joseph Benavitez wondered aloud

1101
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 5: how this kid has two million Instagram followers? And I

1102
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 5: do think part of it is just how much he

1103
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 5: lit up that crowded sphere with that performance on a

1104
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 5: hugely watched show. But not a great weekend, all things considered,

1105
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 5: Ray for Lazy Boy, right, he misses wait and then

1106
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 5: gets the Peruvian Kevin Borjas's best performance.

1107
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:30,919
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, boy, let me tell you. First off, what's

1108
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 9: his name, Rinaldo Rodriguez. That guy's got a cinder block

1109
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 9: for a fucking head, and he's no shots crazy like

1110
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 9: that was like getting hit with a bat. You could

1111
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 9: hear him, and that guy just walk through every day.

1112
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 9: I don't know how long that's gonna hold up for,

1113
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 9: but for right now, huh. You got to bring his

1114
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 9: sledgehammer to get that guy out. He got hit with

1115
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 9: huge shots, perfect timing, perfect placement, and he just.

1116
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 4: Does a back roll. He gets hit, He gets hit

1117
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 4: on his butt, does a back roll into his hands

1118
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:06,320
Speaker 4: and gets right back to his feet and asks for more.

1119
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 6: Like yeah, and I could tell you I've got it.

1120
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 9: You get rocked and then you do a backward flip

1121
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 9: and then you get up and nothing's wrong with you.

1122
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's scary.

1123
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 9: That's pretty scary because I tell you, I could see

1124
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 9: that being a drill where you got to do a

1125
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 9: couple of backward rolls and get up in front of you.

1126
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 8: Right.

1127
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 6: This guy gets not he gets his clock rang, and

1128
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 6: he freaking doesn't.

1129
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 4: That was a great fight. I really enjoyed.

1130
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:34,839
Speaker 6: Well.

1131
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 9: He yeah, and he you know, he made it by

1132
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 9: being as tough as he is and as durable and

1133
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 9: going forward and you know, trying some I think once

1134
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 9: his crazy kicks though, uh, you know, don't work. I

1135
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 9: think he looked like he reverted back to like you know,

1136
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 9: some of those spin back hook kicks.

1137
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,399
Speaker 6: They weren't even near The guy wasn't even in back

1138
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 6: of him by the time he got done. He was

1139
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 6: across the other side. So he's got to work on

1140
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 6: some stuff. But he's definitely got the.

1141
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 9: Attitude and the toughness and upbeating that for sure, because

1142
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,280
Speaker 9: those shots were they were huge.

1143
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 5: Man, There's no doubt that he go ahead Kenflo.

1144
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, Bonthas looked amazing that right hand

1145
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 4: going back. Dude, that's a high level. Yeah, and he

1146
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 4: was on that night. I have chills thinking about it.

1147
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 4: But if he's at his best on the feet, he

1148
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 4: looks like one of the elite strikers in that division,

1149
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 4: no question about it. I think if he continues to

1150
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 4: work on his ability to you know, defend takedowns and

1151
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 4: to be good and sharp on the ground, and he

1152
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,839
Speaker 4: has shown a little bit of that, I think he's something.

1153
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 4: He's someone that that you got to watch out for.

1154
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 4: And that's how you do it in enemy territory, everybody

1155
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 4: cheering against you. He looked phenomenal.

1156
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 6: Man.

1157
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 4: Finally, it seemed to me that he looked like he

1158
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 4: was coming into his own in a very uh in

1159
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 4: a very good way in the UFC. So watch out

1160
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 4: for for Bonas.

1161
00:54:55,320 --> 00:55:01,959
Speaker 9: And the biggest the biggest test too, was he didn't

1162
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 9: get frustrated, you know what I mean, Like, sometimes you

1163
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,280
Speaker 9: hit a guy like that, the guy's still coming forward,

1164
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 9: you have a mental breakdown, you don't know what you

1165
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 9: have to do. He stayed composed and he keep laying

1166
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 9: in those big shots. So hats off to him, Man,

1167
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 9: I think that again, mentally, that was the biggest test

1168
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 9: he had to pass. And like again, hostile territory, like

1169
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 9: John said, and the fact that he didn't get discouraged

1170
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 9: or frustrated after hitting the guy ten times with his

1171
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 9: best shot really good.

1172
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 6: That's a good look.

1173
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's a great point by you the coach,

1174
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 5: Ray Longo here in his weekly spot live on the

1175
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 5: Anak and Florian podcast. And I do think for Borjas too,

1176
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,839
Speaker 5: I could have called canflow right after the Fighter meeting,

1177
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 5: just mentally completely locked in. He's done the mental work.

1178
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 5: He told us that just the travel and some of

1179
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,280
Speaker 5: the things that came with his first few UFC fights

1180
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 5: had him not necessarily in total focus in Octagon, and

1181
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 5: he was able to sort of arrive at that conclusion.

1182
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 5: He was completely fucking locked in from the moment he

1183
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 5: arrived at our fighter meeting, and just everything about his

1184
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 5: energy all week suggested that he was going to have

1185
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 5: a great performance. But my gosh, the handspeed on that

1186
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 5: right hand moving backward to repeatedly, I think it certainly

1187
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 5: would have felled lesser men than Ronaldo Rodriguez. And yeah,

1188
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 5: you suggested, I'm taking out of all what about Rinaldo Rodriguez. Man,

1189
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 5: you see he's something.

1190
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 6: Blood test that guy.

1191
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 5: Because we're just high on life real.

1192
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 6: Quick before what happened with the gastoln fight, was really

1193
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 6: looking forward with.

1194
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 5: That Joe food poisoning from the Italian joint at the

1195
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 5: hotel oh Man.

1196
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't know, John, they're going over don't drink anything,

1197
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 9: They're going over all that stuff with you.

1198
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1199
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:48,280
Speaker 5: I just think that sometimes different systems are affected differently.

1200
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 5: And uh yeah, I think Joe tried to make all

1201
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 5: the right decisions and do the right things, whether it

1202
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 5: was you know, washing produce. I don't know if he

1203
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 5: was not ingesting. I don't know what he was doing,

1204
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 5: but yeah, but I was trying to build him up

1205
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 5: privately over a direct message because it can be really difficult.

1206
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 6: You know.

1207
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 5: He just doesn't strike me as the pulling out type.

1208
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 6: No, No, definitely not. And that's uh yeah, yeah, I

1209
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 6: don't know.

1210
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 4: It sucks for Kelvin by the way, too. And you know,

1211
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 4: you got to respect someone like Kelvin Gaslam. You do

1212
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 4: not go in there, you know, at fifty sixty even

1213
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 4: seventy percent to expect to beat someone like Kelvin with

1214
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 4: all that experience, and it sucks for Kelvin that he

1215
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 4: was out there a month earlier training his ass off

1216
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 4: getting ready for this one, and you know, to have

1217
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 4: his opponent drop out, it's it's really rough for Kelvin

1218
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 4: as well.

1219
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 9: Oh and he did go out a month earlier, Kenny,

1220
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 9: that's what I heard. Yeah, yeah, you know, it's funny

1221
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 9: with the Alta two. Back in the day when we

1222
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 9: used to go to Vegas because that was a higher

1223
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 9: route the two. Yeah, we used to get out there

1224
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 9: with I used to go out two weeks earlier with

1225
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 9: Sarah and then that just I believe it disappeared. Nobody

1226
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 9: had never bothered at Aljoel got bothered the first two fights.

1227
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 9: Is he couldn't breathe in the dressing room. May have

1228
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 9: been anxiety a little bit too, but the dryness and

1229
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 9: it will affect you.

1230
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 5: And that's even Vegas, right, not even close, and for

1231
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 5: two weeks and essentially was sick on and off the

1232
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 5: whole time, you know. And he's a massive man too.

1233
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 5: I mean, he made the way, so hopefully they can

1234
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 5: make that fight again. You also lost Jeff Neil against

1235
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 5: Carlos protests in Miami. We have safe sooo coming up

1236
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 5: here in about seven minutes, so we will get into

1237
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 5: all of that, but protests, you know, maybe some rumblings

1238
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 5: shadow Gary needs to fight a lot of big things

1239
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 5: happening in the welterweight division. All right, we got a

1240
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 5: few more minutes with Ray Longo before we get to

1241
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 5: would Ray rather what?

1242
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:43,959
Speaker 6: What? Still?

1243
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 4: I mean?

1244
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, but I said before we get there,

1245
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 5: I would like to indulge you folks on Cardio kine Velaskiz,

1246
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 5: who was sentenced one week ago today. And I think

1247
00:58:56,080 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 5: a lot of people read headlines and they don't read articles, right, So, thankfully,

1248
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 5: all things considered, this is going to be okay. This

1249
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 5: is going to be a very short amount of time

1250
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 5: behind bars for kane Velaskez could be even more abbreviated

1251
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 5: than what is on paper, but he is being credited

1252
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 5: Kenny with time served you know, north of three years.

1253
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 5: So it stands to reason that when the calendar turns

1254
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 5: to twenty twenty six, in those first few months, he

1255
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 5: could be out based upon good behavior. So yes, we

1256
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 5: can all sit here and be of an aligned opinion

1257
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 5: that he shouldn't be spending a single day more behind bars.

1258
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 5: But you know, this could have been easily twenty five

1259
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 5: years and had they not you know, switched the judges

1260
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 5: at one point in time in this county, this could

1261
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 5: have been an absolute disaster.

1262
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 4: It could have been way worse. Absolutely, And my understanding

1263
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 4: is that the judge who actually, you know, gave him

1264
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 4: the sentence after was actually crying while he was talking.

1265
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 4: And I mean, if you're a father, if you're you know,

1266
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 4: someone with a heartbeat, you're going to feel for Canaan

1267
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 4: this situation. And you know, I hope he's out as

1268
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 4: soon as possible. And it seemed like even his attitude

1269
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 4: about his experience in prison was a very positive one

1270
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 4: and I wish him the best.

1271
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 6: Man.

1272
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 4: Love that guy.

1273
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean.

1274
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 9: I could see why the guy was crying, but I

1275
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 9: think everybody should be crying that that's.

1276
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 6: That's really bad. I don't I don't even know what

1277
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 6: to say. I feel for the guy. I think I

1278
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 6: maybe could have made a better decision on what he

1279
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 6: did to that guy.

1280
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 9: But that guy, whoever, that guy deserves to be dead,

1281
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 9: and Kane should be walking around free.

1282
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 6: He should be looked at as a hero.

1283
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 9: I don't give you a shit about street justice or

1284
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 9: whatever you don't want to hear that's it's fucking brutal.

1285
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 5: Guy will be in the not too distant future the judge.

1286
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 5: And again this was not the initial judge, right, thank

1287
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 5: the good Lord. Yesing a son away from his father

1288
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 5: is the worst punishment, right, and he was not going

1289
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 5: to have that be the long term fate for the

1290
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 5: Velaskaz family, especially when you consider that the sun here

1291
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 5: in question was the victim. Right. So yeah, and considered

1292
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 5: this is uh, this is good news for King.

1293
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Speaker 6: And I'll tell you, he'll do his time and he'll

1294
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 6: come out. He'll be a hero to a lot of people.

1295
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 9: He'll be he's not gonna I don't know if he's

1296
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 9: thinking like that, but that guy will be looked at

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01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 9: as a hero two millions of people.

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01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 6: So I think that part he's going to be received

1299
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Speaker 6: really well when he gets out.

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01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, Kenny, can you imagine his UFC Hall of Fame

1301
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 5: induction ceremony, the standing ovation that came Alaskas he's gonna

1302
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 5: get from the m m A community. All right, all right,

1303
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 5: we will end the program on a well, we're not

1304
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 5: ending the show, of course, we got we'll end the

1305
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 5: Ray Longo minute.

1306
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 6: This segment all right, you basically end in the show.

1307
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 4: He's gonna say that.

1308
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 6: I mean, you get a layup, Kenny, you get a layup,

1309
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 6: you gotta run with it.

1310
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 4: No, you gotta take it.

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01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 6: You gotta gotta take it.

1312
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 5: And I actually think principally some of the minute men

1313
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 5: might actually a lot broadcast. We do have the Great

1314
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 5: General Safe So coming up in five minutes, and then

1315
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 5: Brian Petrey on the back side as we get ready

1316
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 5: for UFC Fight Night, Ammad versus Murphy, But not before

1317
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 5: we lighten up the program with a few questions for

1318
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 5: Ray Longo. Oh my god, Ray, would you rather have

1319
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 5: skin that changes color based on your emotions or tattoos

1320
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 5: appear all over your body depicting what you did yesterday? Ah,

1321
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 5: you want to pass? You get one pass of these.

1322
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go. I'll go. I'll take the tattoos all

1323
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 6: over my body.

1324
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 5: You don't want to be all lou when you're sad

1325
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 5: and everybody. I get it, all right, lose all of

1326
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 5: your friends, but keep your BFF. Or lose your BFF

1327
01:02:58,280 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 5: but keep the rest of your butts.

1328
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 6: Oh wow, John, you're putting some thought into they He's

1329
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 6: very good.

1330
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 9: I'm calling for all minute men at the time I

1331
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 9: close my screen, to close it with me.

1332
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 6: That's what I'm calling for right now. No, wait, give

1333
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 6: me that one again.

1334
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 9: So it's lose all of your friends McKeith your BFF,

1335
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 9: or lose your BFF.

1336
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 5: But keep the rest of your friends.

1337
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1338
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 5: Ooh, it's a horrible question, all right, then pass? Would

1339
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 5: you rather have people spread a terrible lie about you?

1340
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 5: Or have people spread terrible but true tales about you?

1341
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 6: Terrible, oh, terrible true tales. I go honestly? Is I

1342
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 6: go honestly?

1343
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 4: Yes?

1344
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 9: Spread the spread the horrible true stuff. It's already been

1345
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 9: spread anyway, so keep spreading.

1346
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 6: Ray.

1347
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 5: Would you rather be the absolute best at something that

1348
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 5: no one takes seriously or be average at something that

1349
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 5: is well respected.

1350
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 9: Absolute best it's something that nobody gives a shit about.

1351
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 6: What was the second one?

1352
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna keep repeating the fucking question at it.

1353
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 5: I got dead air and you know, uh so.

1354
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 6: I'm ruining the I'm ruining the bit is what you're saying.

1355
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 5: I know you can close your monitor and try to

1356
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 5: get all your legions and minute men to come with you.

1357
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 5: Last question, would you rather have a third nipple or

1358
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 5: an extra toe.

1359
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 6: I'll take an extra toe, all right, Ray.

1360
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 5: Long Ago wants eleven toes. I can see the headline

1361
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 5: right now, Get the fuck out of here.

1362
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 6: Okay, Oh no, I don't I don't want to go.

1363
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 6: Oh yes, min men on the count of three, one, two, three.

1364
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 5: Gosh man over under nine phone buzzes for Ray Longo.

1365
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 5: Cash the ticket on the over Maybe Cody, we can

1366
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,440
Speaker 5: silence that for the Ray Longo minute next week a

1367
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 5: guy whose phone won't be buzzing, almost assuredly during the

1368
01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 5: next fifteen minutes. One of my good friends and really

1369
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 5: as good a mixed martial arts coach and mind as

1370
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 5: there exists out there, the head coach and founder bordis MMA, Dallas, Texas, USA.

1371
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 5: The general Safe Sude is with us.

1372
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 2: General.

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01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 5: It's nice to see us, sir. How are we feeling.

1374
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 2: We're feeling good. I mean, obviously it was a good

1375
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 2: weekend and that was a real big one for us,

1376
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 2: so we're pretty happy about it.

1377
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 5: So Ray Longo said something over the last thirty minutes

1378
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 5: that it was a close fight, but you have to

1379
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 5: give the rounds, perhaps all of them, to Brandon Marae. Now,

1380
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 5: now the judges were aligned for one but when you

1381
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 5: sort of unpack this relative to your expectations going in,

1382
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 5: I felt like it was a pretty dominant performance. You

1383
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 5: had mostly, if not all, of the big moments. I'd

1384
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 5: imagine from a coaching standpoint, you're pretty satisfied.

1385
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you nailed it. I mean Ursa, you know,

1386
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 2: and I said this in the interviews before, that was

1387
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 2: a really hard fight because he's so talented and so skilled,

1388
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,439
Speaker 2: but coming off with two losses, nobody and everybody wrote

1389
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 2: him off. He lost to Pantosia by a one point

1390
01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 2: on two judges scorecards. So when you look at this

1391
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 2: kid and he you know, Kai got him, but that

1392
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 2: that was the beginning of the fight. Anybody can get caught,

1393
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 2: right you look at his body of work and his

1394
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 2: fight at Q is so high. You know he's going

1395
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 2: to make adjustments and look for Brandon's pressure to try

1396
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 2: to slide off on counter. So we had to really

1397
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 2: be careful with our offense but also be aggressive, right

1398
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 2: because he's a counter fighter, and we knew he was

1399
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 2: going to be sliding off and trying to move. Usually

1400
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 2: he gets his confidence and then he starts to come forward.

1401
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 2: But Brandon, we wanted to hurt him early, so that

1402
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 2: way he wouldn't be confident. You know, we don't know

1403
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 2: where he is from the Kai knockout yea, And Brandon

1404
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 2: buzzed him with that right hand early and made him stumble,

1405
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 2: you know, and almost put him on his button. After that,

1406
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 2: it kind of he kind of got on his bike

1407
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 2: a lot more and he never really pressured, so it

1408
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 2: was good for us. Brandon really, I thought, did a

1409
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 2: great job cutting off the cage and really managed.

1410
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 6: The whole fight so well.

1411
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 2: And in those high level fights, John, that's what you're

1412
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:52,440
Speaker 2: looking to do.

1413
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:56,439
Speaker 4: See if you know some fighters, some teams will say,

1414
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 4: you know what, I'm not fighting in Australia. I'm not

1415
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 4: going to fight in the Middle East. That's too you

1416
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 4: know along of a fly not going to fight at altitude?

1417
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 4: Was there any hesitation on your part in taking this

1418
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:08,440
Speaker 4: fight it? You know, the fact that it was in

1419
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 4: Mexico City, and what do you guys do to prepare

1420
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 4: off for this big event.

1421
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 2: I mean here, I got to give my flowers to

1422
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 2: my guy Brandon. You know he's like, Coach, I gotta

1423
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 2: get over this, I gotta get over this mountain. And

1424
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 2: you know he's like, this is like you know, he's

1425
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 2: obviously won the title twice, but he was like, this

1426
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 2: is kind of like one of those things. I've just

1427
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:28,919
Speaker 2: got to do it right. I've got to be able

1428
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 2: to anchor Mexico. I got to be able to anchor

1429
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 2: Mexico City, and I want to do this. And when

1430
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 2: he told me that no one, you know, is mental

1431
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 2: space from the break that I had him take last year,

1432
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:40,600
Speaker 2: you know, that nine month break going in now Bosi

1433
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 2: being so mentally charged in the positive.

1434
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 5: I just saw that.

1435
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 2: Momentum, you know, and he's just in such a good headspace.

1436
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 2: I've always said, you know, going into the Figureaedo fight,

1437
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 2: I used to tell him, you know, even at when

1438
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:55,920
Speaker 2: we had the belt, I was like, you're just getting

1439
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 2: into your prime, dude, because your age, like you know,

1440
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 2: you're thirty one, your mind is start get really sharp

1441
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 2: and you've got the physical skills at the highest level.

1442
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 2: Now you've got the mental skills to match. And he

1443
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 2: was having a hard time putting that all together right.

1444
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 2: He would say, Man, I'm not using my experience. Well,

1445
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 2: now we're utilizing that, and I think we've just got

1446
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 2: a great team. You know, we've been together three years now,

1447
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 2: you know, it's two main events that we've won in

1448
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 2: a row, and he's just performing great when you really

1449
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 2: look at it. You know, the Figuraedo fight was incredible,

1450
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:26,440
Speaker 2: The Pantosia fight was incredible, the Albasi fight was incredible.

1451
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 2: This fight was incredible. The guy four out of his

1452
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 2: last five fights have been pretty good, so I think

1453
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:35,640
Speaker 2: he's mentally coming into his own. We did go to

1454
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 2: Mexico City. We had to do it.

1455
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:38,599
Speaker 8: We had to get.

1456
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 2: Acclimated to that elevation. I flew down there every single

1457
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 2: week and we did rounds every single week. We brought

1458
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 2: in Adriana Janis, who's an incredible boxer. He has a

1459
01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:49,439
Speaker 2: great jab and you know, to use and simulate also

1460
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 2: the counter punching ability of Ersa. I think that really

1461
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 2: helped Brandon prepare. You saw Brandon's defense with like seventy

1462
01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 2: five percent incredible defense, and you know, we just had

1463
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 2: a great camp and we just put in the work. Man,

1464
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 2: there's no no substitute to the work.

1465
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 4: And you know that, Kenny, Yeah, no, absolutely, man. It

1466
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:09,680
Speaker 4: You know, anytime you go to a different team, it

1467
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:11,600
Speaker 4: could take a little bit to get used to that

1468
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 4: coach's style or that approach or that training methodology. When

1469
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 4: did you see that kind of turnaround for Brandon? You

1470
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:20,600
Speaker 4: mentioned his you know, his most recent performances, which have

1471
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:23,880
Speaker 4: been amazing. Uh, clearly it's working. But when did you

1472
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 4: see that turnaround for Brandon?

1473
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, honestly, he's like the dream student, right.

1474
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 2: I mean the figure the Figureado fight was a a plus.

1475
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:35,520
Speaker 2: That's a that he dominated that fight. That was undisputed

1476
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:37,880
Speaker 2: title fight, you know, against a fight a guy had

1477
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 2: relatively close fights with. So from the very beginning we've

1478
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 2: kind of messed really well, it's just when you're fighting

1479
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:46,760
Speaker 2: at that level, Kenny, it's so stressful all the time

1480
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:49,640
Speaker 2: when one thing goes wrong, and you know, we had

1481
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 2: that in the roy valcamp. He was burned out, he

1482
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 2: was exhausted. He've been gone for you know, weeks, and

1483
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 2: I mean that's when I told him, hey, we need

1484
01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 2: to step back and take a break. And I think

1485
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:00,599
Speaker 2: the break was what really when you he takes something

1486
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:03,559
Speaker 2: away from somebody that they love, then that makes them

1487
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 2: love it more. And he called me, he called me

1488
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 2: three weeks into the break, I gotta fight, Coach. I

1489
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 2: was like, no, we're not fighting, but yeah, I said,

1490
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:13,760
Speaker 2: we gotta We gotta see this through. And then he

1491
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 2: called me again like a month or two later. I'm

1492
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 2: like no, And then he bought into it more after

1493
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 2: after about two months off, he was the one that

1494
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 2: was like, you know what, I want to be ready

1495
01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 2: and he started to kind of see and the mental

1496
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 2: work he did in that time space, Uh, you know,

1497
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:30,640
Speaker 2: Kenny is really what did it?

1498
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 6: I think?

1499
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 2: You know, he refreshes approach and you know, just from

1500
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 2: doing this for so long, sometimes guys just need to

1501
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 2: step away for a little bit when they're at the

1502
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 2: highest level, especially when they have a work ethic like Brandon.

1503
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 2: It's not like he was being lazy. It's just when

1504
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 2: you tell a guy like that, a fucking workhorse, now man,

1505
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:47,639
Speaker 2: you can't race.

1506
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 4: That's the hardest thing to do. Yeah, yeah, sorry, Bud.

1507
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 2: Like, and he's sitting there, he's sitting there in the bullpen.

1508
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 2: He's fucking fast, he's running around, he's beating all the

1509
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:58,680
Speaker 2: other horses whenever he runs his little practice races. He's

1510
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 2: looking around. Brandon was still trying, and you know, he's

1511
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 2: incredible and getting better and better and better. So that's

1512
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:05,720
Speaker 2: what it was like. It was like telling now man,

1513
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:08,760
Speaker 2: you can't race. And so now you know, he's so

1514
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 2: ready and he's so excited and mentally he's just done

1515
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 2: so much work. We're just in a great space.

1516
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:15,760
Speaker 5: I mean, and look at these two results back to

1517
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 5: back for Team Moreno the General States with us live

1518
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 5: here on the Anakin Florian Podcast. So gosh, there's a

1519
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 5: lot to sort of unpack in what you said in

1520
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:26,559
Speaker 5: terms of just anchoring Mexico City, Right, Brandon can't control

1521
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:28,800
Speaker 5: that as he arrives at his mental prime. There's now

1522
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 5: fucking PI in Mexico City and Aura Beckins in September.

1523
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 5: But correct me if I'm wrong. Like his emotion postfight

1524
01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 5: in the octagon was just rooted in how hard he's

1525
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 5: had to fucking work to get these two wins, right.

1526
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:41,600
Speaker 2: I mean, look, this guy was trying to win in

1527
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen, you know, and you know he's the most

1528
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 2: famous Mexican fighter, I mean, the first Mexican champion. I mean,

1529
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:50,919
Speaker 2: you know, you walk around with him, and he's beloved

1530
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 2: by people. I mean, I've never seen anything like it,

1531
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 2: and well deserved. He's such a sweet guy. It really

1532
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 2: was hard on him, you know, and it war on

1533
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 2: him to get this done. And I mean you know,

1534
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 2: you saw that come out post fight, and I think

1535
01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 2: it was you know, it's not a title win, but

1536
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 2: it's one of those he's always going to remember. Number one,

1537
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 2: it puts us back in the title contention. But number

1538
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 2: two is was there's so much stakes and he just

1539
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:17,679
Speaker 2: delivered so so well, so clean. He looks so good.

1540
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 2: I watched the fight last night. I mean, yeah, he's

1541
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 2: so he's so balanced, and he's such a pro, and

1542
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 2: he's making all the right adjustments. He's listening incredibly well too.

1543
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:29,680
Speaker 2: To in the corner. I mean, he's just so smooth man.

1544
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 2: What can you say? Really impressive stuff by him.

1545
01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:34,560
Speaker 5: Dude, I love it. And just the kinship between you

1546
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 5: two guys in corner. He just looked so relaxed. He

1547
01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 5: was trying to crack jokes and yeah, I mean I

1548
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 5: think deliver is just the perfect verb. So I'm gonna

1549
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 5: let Kem Flo get back in here, but not before

1550
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 5: I ask you about the pecking order. At one hundred

1551
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:49,640
Speaker 5: and twenty five pounds. The word on the street, the

1552
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:53,240
Speaker 5: informed speculation suggested maybe Kaikta France would be next. I'd

1553
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 5: imagine that would make you guys big fans of his.

1554
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 5: Just giving the Pantosia series. I don't know, wouldn't part

1555
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 5: of you guys. I mean, I just feel like you

1556
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:04,600
Speaker 5: maximize this moment to such an extent, even with the

1557
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:06,880
Speaker 5: Hunter Campbell stuff, in terms of your ability to move

1558
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 5: the needle. I mean, that's what the guy wants to hear.

1559
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:11,760
Speaker 5: It sounds to me like you'll be a Kai fan

1560
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 5: whenever that fight is made, if indeed that is next.

1561
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:16,720
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you can't root for a guy

1562
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 2: more the guy's got. You know, Brandon has two wins

1563
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 2: over and one for the introim title, and you know

1564
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 2: stoppage in the last fight. So Kai's a great guy too,

1565
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 2: you know. I mean, these guys are all we respect him,

1566
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 2: they're all incredible athletes, and of course, you know we

1567
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:35,280
Speaker 2: can't Pantosia. You know, that fight was so close to

1568
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 2: him and Brandon, and I mean, if you just take

1569
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:39,960
Speaker 2: that fight, look at it now, and maybe Brandon wins

1570
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:41,760
Speaker 2: that fight on damage. I think he does with his

1571
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:44,880
Speaker 2: scoring now, but you can't forget the other history, and

1572
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:47,600
Speaker 2: so the narrative gets brought back, and it's fair. You

1573
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:50,560
Speaker 2: know that Pantosia has got the multiple victories, so of

1574
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 2: course Kai is important but man, I'm just I'm not.

1575
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 2: I just don't have that in me to be like man.

1576
01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:58,200
Speaker 6: I hope Pantonlia lose it, Like, Wow, we.

1577
01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 2: Gotta do what we gotta do. If Kai went incredible,

1578
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 2: God bless him. You know he's in colmps to his dream.

1579
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 2: If Pantosian wins, you know, God bless him. We got

1580
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:09,760
Speaker 2: to go through through that tank. And you know, he

1581
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 2: has I have so much respect for him as a champion.

1582
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 2: He has, you know, shown the tenacity and you know,

1583
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:21,040
Speaker 2: the discipline to continue to work even harder and harder,

1584
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:23,679
Speaker 2: and that's what this sport is about. So we're watching

1585
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 2: the fight and you know, I wish both of them

1586
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:27,759
Speaker 2: the luck and then we'll deal with whatever happens.

1587
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 4: You know, say, if Brandon was the same fighter that

1588
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 4: you know when they first fought or the last time

1589
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 4: he fought Pantosa, I would say, you know, I don't

1590
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:37,960
Speaker 4: think he deserves to get another shot. I think he

1591
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:40,479
Speaker 4: does just based on the improvements that he's showing and

1592
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 4: he continues to get better. Have you heard anything from

1593
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 4: the UFC in regards to a possible forth fight if

1594
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:50,680
Speaker 4: that opportunity arises.

1595
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 2: I mean I think that you know, John alluded to it,

1596
01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:55,800
Speaker 2: you know, and I mean John was there. I mean

1597
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:58,439
Speaker 2: it's electric when Brandon fights. I mean there's twenty two

1598
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 2: thousand people like it's crazy. I mean, you can't not

1599
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 2: want to see it. It's like it's like seeing a

1600
01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:06,840
Speaker 2: little rock star walk around. And I mean, you know,

1601
01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:08,640
Speaker 2: he's the sweet guy, so he's not going to say, hey,

1602
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:10,559
Speaker 2: I'm the only one in the division. You know, he's

1603
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 2: saying it in a nice way. But I think people

1604
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:15,679
Speaker 2: people want to see Brandon fight, you know. And yeah,

1605
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:18,280
Speaker 2: I mean, look, it's hard to say we deserve it.

1606
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 2: We deserve it. I think everybody deserves it. I think

1607
01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:22,760
Speaker 2: Minel has been looking incredible. He looked really good in

1608
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:27,679
Speaker 2: his last few fights. He's super entertaining. Kai absolutely deserves it. Raval,

1609
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 2: you know, you know, you can say Brandon had it

1610
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 2: off night, but Raval still did his job. So it's

1611
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:37,120
Speaker 2: really hard. But you know, we don't make those decisions.

1612
01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 2: But we did our job and we had a job to.

1613
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:39,560
Speaker 6: Do, you know.

1614
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 2: Ersa coming off with two losses didn't have any pop,

1615
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 2: but but he was so much risk, more risk than Albasi.

1616
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:50,120
Speaker 2: Al Bosie was undefeated, but Albosi people thought didn't even

1617
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:53,800
Speaker 2: beat Kai. So the Albosi fight, I was like, hey, man,

1618
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 2: al Bosi has to prove himself, right, Like, uh, it's

1619
01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 2: not the other way around. And the ers fighters has

1620
01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:01,800
Speaker 2: just been through hell. He almost beat Pantosia. If it

1621
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:04,920
Speaker 2: wasn't for that freaking, you know, takedown attempt, he could

1622
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 2: have won that fight and been the champion. And so

1623
01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 2: then okay, he gets caught by Kay. But here's a

1624
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 2: guy who's super capable. Showed us for twenty five minutes

1625
01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 2: how good he is. I guess the best guy in

1626
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 2: the division right now, and we're gonna take him lightly.

1627
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 2: But he's got no steam because he's owing too. So

1628
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:23,679
Speaker 2: I knew he was gonna be ready, and we really

1629
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 2: game plan well for what he does, and I think

1630
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 2: that Brandon executed it so well to shut him down.

1631
01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 2: So the UFC those I you know, I thought it

1632
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:33,360
Speaker 2: was a very hard fight and we told him that,

1633
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:37,679
Speaker 2: but uh we we had to deliver, and Brandon absolutely

1634
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:38,000
Speaker 2: did so.

1635
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 5: See, I mean, just perfect execution and coaching is a

1636
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:42,599
Speaker 5: big part of this as well. We got a couple

1637
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 5: more minutes here with the general Safe Soude, who not

1638
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:47,760
Speaker 5: only put over Manel Cop but also wisely, and Jack's

1639
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:50,759
Speaker 5: Brandon Royvall's name into the equation because there are trumblings

1640
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 5: he might look at thirty five, but another guy who

1641
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 5: is super relevant flyweight, and we'll see what they do

1642
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 5: with Kochi Horagucci. I want to live in this Moreno moment, right,

1643
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:03,600
Speaker 5: because I would think given Moreno's star power, that you know,

1644
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 5: fighting Manel Cop on the same card as a title

1645
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 5: fight doesn't necessarily make a lot of sense. Fighting Kyochi

1646
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 5: horr Gucci, I don't think makes a lot of sense.

1647
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:13,560
Speaker 5: I think you wait for the title fight. But like

1648
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 5: you guys competed so well in that Pantosia fight at

1649
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:20,599
Speaker 5: UFC two ninety, right, I believe it was that, Like, dude,

1650
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:22,840
Speaker 5: like that's the only fight that I'm really considering when

1651
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 5: it comes to that series, Right, I know I got

1652
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:26,799
Speaker 5: to move on to fucking Jeff Neil and Kennedy and Zechiku,

1653
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 5: but like, I just feel like that last fight between

1654
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:32,559
Speaker 5: those two, that's that's the highest level. I think right

1655
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:33,840
Speaker 5: now we can do it one twenty five.

1656
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:37,160
Speaker 2: I think that was the best fight maybe ever at flyway.

1657
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 2: I mean that title fight was I mean I remember

1658
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:43,040
Speaker 2: being in the moment and I mean it took months

1659
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:44,720
Speaker 2: to come down from that thing. I mean it was

1660
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:47,759
Speaker 2: so intense, and it came down to the very last

1661
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:51,200
Speaker 2: exchange when Pantosia got the takedown. He was against the fence.

1662
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:53,759
Speaker 2: I mean you're talking about like literally watching the clock

1663
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:55,800
Speaker 2: run out, you know. I mean Brandon reverses him and

1664
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 2: throws a combo. We have the belt. Maybe we never

1665
01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 2: lose it, you know. I mean you can go on

1666
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 2: and on, but I think that fight's super intriguing. Again,

1667
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:05,519
Speaker 2: it's hard to go and say, you know, give us

1668
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:07,479
Speaker 2: a title shot, blaha, when everyone's like, ah, shut up,

1669
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:09,400
Speaker 2: he's lost the Pantosia, Yeah he has. But I think

1670
01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:11,880
Speaker 2: you just explained it perfectly. And it's better to hear

1671
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 2: it from other people than it is from us, right

1672
01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 2: because of course, you know we sound biased, but I

1673
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:19,639
Speaker 2: think that it'll work itself out. And we did our job.

1674
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 2: That's all we can do. You know, two main event wins,

1675
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 2: dominant wins. You know, him showing his progression, his balance,

1676
01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:29,880
Speaker 2: his ability to entertain, his ability to delivering those big

1677
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:31,840
Speaker 2: moments and to carry the fight and have those and

1678
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:34,760
Speaker 2: he was tenacious, you know, big shots, all kinds of adjustments,

1679
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:38,600
Speaker 2: ground and pound wrestling, big boxing, the leg kicks, you know,

1680
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 2: I mean, mixing it up constantly, and he was chasing

1681
01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:42,840
Speaker 2: our seging around. I mean, he was trying to bang

1682
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:45,679
Speaker 2: in there. So I think that we did our job

1683
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 2: and that's all we can do. And in sports, man,

1684
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 2: you gotta win, you got to you gotta win what's

1685
01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 2: in front of you and then deal with what comes.

1686
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 2: And we won what was in front of us, and

1687
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 2: we'll deal with what comes well.

1688
01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 5: Put as usual safe sue, So Kennedy and Zechiku this

1689
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 5: weekend against Martin Boo died in the heavyweight division. When

1690
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 5: you leave in Vegas, I'm.

1691
01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 2: Gonna leave on Friday. Big Kennedy's a heavyweight now, so

1692
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:08,600
Speaker 2: there's no worry about the weight cut, you know.

1693
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:10,000
Speaker 6: He and that was his idea.

1694
01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 2: And credit to him. He's been doing great. So he's

1695
01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 2: in a great space. And he's another guy that I

1696
01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:16,280
Speaker 2: think is just coming into his own mentally, you know.

1697
01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:18,439
Speaker 2: I mean these guys, you know, he got in the

1698
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:20,519
Speaker 2: UFC when he was you know, I think we were

1699
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 2: in the Contender when he was three and oh or something.

1700
01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:25,760
Speaker 2: So these guys have grown up there and it takes time,

1701
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 2: you know. Kenny understands that. I mean, it really takes time.

1702
01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:30,960
Speaker 2: You know, we saw that with Brandon. I mean, and

1703
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:33,720
Speaker 2: he was a two time champion. He's at his best

1704
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:37,280
Speaker 2: actually right now, so it really takes time to develop

1705
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:40,519
Speaker 2: mentally and then also physically and synergistically put those two

1706
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 2: things together and perform on fight night. And I think

1707
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:45,639
Speaker 2: that's what we're seeing with Kennedy and you know, something

1708
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:47,679
Speaker 2: similar that we saw with Brandon. So I'm really proud

1709
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:47,920
Speaker 2: of him.

1710
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:50,679
Speaker 5: All right, Well, enjoy safe saou before he goes, because

1711
01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 5: the word on the street is that he might not

1712
01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:54,880
Speaker 5: be long for this game. After notching UFC win number

1713
01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:58,120
Speaker 5: one hundred not all that long ago, but that's out

1714
01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:02,559
Speaker 5: of here on this Among those one hundred plus wins

1715
01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 5: now and the number the tally continues to grow, one

1716
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:07,560
Speaker 5: of the guys who's produced a lot of those for

1717
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:10,560
Speaker 5: you is Jeff Hans of steel Neal ubiquitously regarded for

1718
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 5: years as your star pupil and on any given Saturday night,

1719
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:16,519
Speaker 5: the best welterweight in the world in theory right against

1720
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:18,800
Speaker 5: Carlos protests. I know you're disappointed on that front.

1721
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 2: I am, because it's like I just want Jeff every

1722
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:23,800
Speaker 2: and you know, I it's this is the one area

1723
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:25,840
Speaker 2: where I just love the fans, all right. I mean

1724
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 2: they everybody loves Jeff and the fans, the fans, man,

1725
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:32,040
Speaker 2: they fucking they surprised me because even though Jeff isn't

1726
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:35,920
Speaker 2: really famous like Brandon, people fucking know and respect Jeff

1727
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:38,600
Speaker 2: and Jeff is always game and people know he's just

1728
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:40,600
Speaker 2: never been one hundred percent or this or that, and

1729
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:43,200
Speaker 2: it's it's on us. It's never on anyone else fight night.

1730
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:45,240
Speaker 2: Whatever you bring to the table is on the team,

1731
01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 2: in the athlete. You can't otherwise people be recycling and

1732
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:50,639
Speaker 2: talking every single time, whether you win, whether you lose.

1733
01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 2: But Jeff, you know, the going into the RDA fight,

1734
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:56,920
Speaker 2: you know, his elbow was such a problem for him.

1735
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 2: This you get all these bone spurs and chips that

1736
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 2: start floating around from all these impacts, and sometimes your

1737
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 2: arm will start to lock, almost like a meniscus. Well,

1738
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:12,080
Speaker 2: we started this camp and we were grinding. I mean

1739
01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:15,320
Speaker 2: I was grinding on him because I wanted him to

1740
01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:17,599
Speaker 2: have that moment. You know, he hasn't win over Balal,

1741
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:20,000
Speaker 2: which is the great champion. He's got wins over a cent,

1742
01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:22,840
Speaker 2: He's got huge wins in welterweight that nobody else has.

1743
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:26,280
Speaker 2: And I think, you know, he kills some of those

1744
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:29,240
Speaker 2: guys Leon Cold. I think he beats those guys easy

1745
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 2: to be honestly, those guys will never fight him, and

1746
01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 2: I understand that too, and I get it. You know,

1747
01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:37,519
Speaker 2: everybody's playing the game. Credit to Gilbert Burns. You know

1748
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:40,760
Speaker 2: we wanted that fight. Gilbert's like man, He's like dude.

1749
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:43,599
Speaker 2: Jeff's got the heaviest hands. We were talking about something else,

1750
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:46,639
Speaker 2: but everyone in the division, nobody talks shit, and everybody

1751
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:50,000
Speaker 2: respects him. And it's just a guy that would love

1752
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 2: to see have his moment in that elbow locked up

1753
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:55,400
Speaker 2: and he couldn't even get it unlocked. We were doing therapy.

1754
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:58,559
Speaker 2: We were trying because I mean, you know, the clock's

1755
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:01,080
Speaker 2: running right, and I think this fight was at a

1756
01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:04,720
Speaker 2: good time. Practice is very dangerous. But Jeff is multifaceted.

1757
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:06,560
Speaker 2: He's got a lot of skills. I think that he

1758
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 2: hasn't really shown yet, and sometimes he's shown flashes of

1759
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 2: absolute brilliance. You know, in the Shaft Cat fight when

1760
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:15,320
Speaker 2: he almost put Shaft Cat away, the Mike Perry fight,

1761
01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:17,719
Speaker 2: all of this fight, the RDA fight, he looked like himself,

1762
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:20,080
Speaker 2: you know, in that fight and he'll he'll get people

1763
01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:22,439
Speaker 2: out of there in two minutes. Uh, you know, and

1764
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:25,920
Speaker 2: we've seen that. So we talked about it and I said, man,

1765
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:29,600
Speaker 2: look your window is closing right like, you got to

1766
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:31,960
Speaker 2: get healthy no more. Half asked, We're not going to

1767
01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:33,920
Speaker 2: go in this fight half ass and hurt. And then

1768
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:36,920
Speaker 2: oh he wasn't ready. No, have the surgery. He didn't

1769
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:39,479
Speaker 2: want to do it. I'm like, you gotta have a surgery.

1770
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:41,320
Speaker 2: Like you're having the surgery. We're going to schedule it

1771
01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:44,280
Speaker 2: probably next week, maybe this week and get it done

1772
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 2: and that's it. And if the proctest fight is there,

1773
01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:51,599
Speaker 2: who has Jeff's fought every single tough guy in the division,

1774
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:56,559
Speaker 2: the Chaft Cat, Luke k, Gary Uh, Perry bullall, like, man,

1775
01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 2: Jeff fights everybody and he wants he loves that smoke.

1776
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:02,680
Speaker 2: So but it was me, I was like, hey, man,

1777
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:04,599
Speaker 2: you got to go in. We got to get an MRI.

1778
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:07,280
Speaker 2: You can't just keep tough in your way through all

1779
01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:10,280
Speaker 2: this shit, you know. And you know you're getting to

1780
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 2: a window where he's still I feel like he's got

1781
01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:14,719
Speaker 2: a lot in the tank and he's skill wise again,

1782
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:16,360
Speaker 2: he's one of those guys that's still develop and we

1783
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 2: got some wrinkles in the game that we want to show.

1784
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:21,960
Speaker 2: But you know, the fights take a toll and sometimes

1785
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:23,240
Speaker 2: you got to hit a reset. He's got to do

1786
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:26,040
Speaker 2: the surgery and we'll see, well, hopefully we see him

1787
01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:28,479
Speaker 2: in the summer, and they'll make that fight again. I'm

1788
01:23:28,479 --> 01:23:31,960
Speaker 2: sure protest will go and and if he wins, they'll

1789
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:34,360
Speaker 2: make that fight again. But Jeff's also got to get

1790
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:36,960
Speaker 2: a top ten win, right and kind of get back

1791
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:39,920
Speaker 2: in the picture. And you know, we took that fight

1792
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 2: and proteses behind us, and Jeff will fight everybody behind it,

1793
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:44,760
Speaker 2: but no one will fight him in front. Even though

1794
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:46,799
Speaker 2: he's coming off a win and he fought someone behind,

1795
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:49,559
Speaker 2: nobody wants to fight him. So he's kind of stuck

1796
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:52,840
Speaker 2: in a weird spot. But I get it and respect it.

1797
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 2: And as a coach, I'm never going to talk about fighters.

1798
01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:57,640
Speaker 2: I mean, I can say, hey, I think we have

1799
01:23:57,680 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 2: an advantage, I think we could win here and there,

1800
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:02,759
Speaker 2: but talk about their decisions, what they're doing for their family,

1801
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:06,040
Speaker 2: their business decisions, not wanting to fight Jeff, like of course,

1802
01:24:06,160 --> 01:24:07,080
Speaker 2: like that's smart as hell.

1803
01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:08,479
Speaker 6: Why would you fight a guy with no.

1804
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:10,880
Speaker 2: That was us fighting Earth said. It was a huge

1805
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:14,599
Speaker 2: risk and hopefully there's a huge reward. But this isn't

1806
01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:17,280
Speaker 2: a game, and you know, we respect everybody and we'll

1807
01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 2: be back, and you know, good luck to Protest. I

1808
01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:21,720
Speaker 2: mean I expect nothing but great things out of him

1809
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:22,040
Speaker 2: as well.

1810
01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:24,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, there are a lot of avoided guys in the

1811
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:26,840
Speaker 5: welchweight division and Jeff seemingly fights them all to your point,

1812
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 5: Shot Canavini and the Shadow Gary and everybody else. And yeah,

1813
01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:32,439
Speaker 5: we wish him the best in terms of the health front.

1814
01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:34,240
Speaker 5: And if you would like to follow this man on

1815
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:36,720
Speaker 5: Instagram at SAFEESAOO, there's also an underscore in there. I

1816
01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:39,280
Speaker 5: believe on x but on Instagram it is not their coach.

1817
01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:42,040
Speaker 5: Respect and love and you know, as most of our

1818
01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:43,840
Speaker 5: audience knows at this point, you know, when I fight

1819
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:47,280
Speaker 5: Jason Annik at Dirty Boxing nineteen, the man barking instructions

1820
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 5: at me pre fight and in corner will be the

1821
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:52,120
Speaker 5: general safe. So much love, brother, You're the best, and

1822
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:54,120
Speaker 5: get that double Kennedy this weekend.

1823
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:56,599
Speaker 2: I meant thank you man. I appreciate it. Guys. Always

1824
01:24:56,640 --> 01:24:57,400
Speaker 2: good to catch up with you.

1825
01:24:57,760 --> 01:25:01,200
Speaker 5: Good to see it there four mma general safe, soyud

1826
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:04,680
Speaker 5: with us here on the Anakin Florian podcast. All right,

1827
01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:07,840
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1829
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1830
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1856
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 5: and welcome in Big Gun Brian Petrie as we spin

1857
01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:33,400
Speaker 5: this whole pig forward to UFC Fight Night, Emmett versus Murphy.

1858
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 5: Big Gun Brian Peter wearing the glasses today, look at

1859
01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:37,600
Speaker 5: all sophisticated.

1860
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:41,519
Speaker 10: Yeah, Bud Wow, Yeah, looking like Jumbo Harry Potter here. No,

1861
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:45,000
Speaker 10: I've I've needed to wear glasses for a long time

1862
01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:48,120
Speaker 10: and I refuse to do it. My doctor said, please

1863
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:50,320
Speaker 10: do it. Your blind is a bat So I've been

1864
01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:52,000
Speaker 10: getting a lot of headaches, so I'm throw them on

1865
01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:54,200
Speaker 10: so I can actually read the screen. I'll tell you

1866
01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:56,360
Speaker 10: what I'm glad I did, because Kenny Floory is looking good.

1867
01:26:56,600 --> 01:26:58,160
Speaker 10: Got a little golden going on there.

1868
01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:00,960
Speaker 3: I know the guy's got a new camera. There's fantastic.

1869
01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:03,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, he looks good. Maybe he bought that from you.

1870
01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:05,600
Speaker 5: I'm not so sure. We haven't locked everything completely in.

1871
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:08,960
Speaker 5: Kenny's battling through some sort of issue today technically, and

1872
01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:10,840
Speaker 5: I feel like I might be dealing with something as well.

1873
01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:12,360
Speaker 5: But yeah, we just would need a little bit more

1874
01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:14,840
Speaker 5: brightness on camflow. But he does look sort of like

1875
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:18,280
Speaker 5: in some sort of den. All Right, so we're going

1876
01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:20,639
Speaker 5: to do the pronunciation of the week, and at least

1877
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:24,479
Speaker 5: for the immediate future on the Anak and Florian podcast,

1878
01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 5: we're gonna have Kenny do this exercise. Kenny, I would

1879
01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:30,960
Speaker 5: like you to tell everyone what one of your early

1880
01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:34,440
Speaker 5: jobs was out of college when it comes to languages

1881
01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 5: and everything else.

1882
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:38,440
Speaker 4: I now, I see beautiful Brian Petrick. He looks fantastic.

1883
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:39,000
Speaker 8: Uh.

1884
01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:42,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, So one of my first jobs, my first job

1885
01:27:42,120 --> 01:27:45,920
Speaker 4: out of college, I worked at a translation agency. I

1886
01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:49,000
Speaker 4: was a Yeah, basically I would get a bunch of

1887
01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:51,920
Speaker 4: different financial documents. I was in the financial side of things,

1888
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:56,000
Speaker 4: and I'd get all these prospectuses and four to one

1889
01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:59,880
Speaker 4: k plans translated into all these different languages. I would

1890
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:03,880
Speaker 4: go out and you know, hire a translator and an editor,

1891
01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:06,160
Speaker 4: and then I'd be the final process. I would format

1892
01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:09,439
Speaker 4: the whole thing into like a document and back read

1893
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:11,160
Speaker 4: it as we'd call it, and make sure you think

1894
01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:14,519
Speaker 4: it's like lining up with the English translation. And uh yeah,

1895
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:17,640
Speaker 4: so I you know, I speak Spanish, I speak Portuguese

1896
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 4: and a little bit of English.

1897
01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:21,800
Speaker 5: All right, So the fans have come at me in droves.

1898
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:24,320
Speaker 5: They want the pronunciation of the week to stay. And Kenny,

1899
01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:26,280
Speaker 5: we're gonna have you do this exercise because we really

1900
01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:28,200
Speaker 5: are trying to hear it right the first time out

1901
01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:29,920
Speaker 5: of you. Now you know how to say this name,

1902
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:33,000
Speaker 5: because no name has been featured more on the pronunciation

1903
01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:34,960
Speaker 5: of the week. It is a name that gives a

1904
01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:37,360
Speaker 5: lot of fight fans fits. We just referenced him with

1905
01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:40,640
Speaker 5: safe sayoud. His first name is Kennedy. Kenny, who is

1906
01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:43,000
Speaker 5: the light heavyweight turned heavyweight we were talking about.

1907
01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:45,240
Speaker 4: This week, Kennedy Enjacou.

1908
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:49,000
Speaker 5: All right, let's hear uh, let's hear what what Kennedy

1909
01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 5: says Kennedy.

1910
01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:54,080
Speaker 6: Kennedy and then Zi.

1911
01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:59,280
Speaker 4: That's a no for me. I got it wrong. And Zechiku,

1912
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:02,040
Speaker 4: I don't think that's such a cool. Yeah.

1913
01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 5: So when I first called his fight in twenty nineteen,

1914
01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:08,120
Speaker 5: I met with him in Safe so we could go

1915
01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:11,080
Speaker 5: over it together. And I had the file there and uh,

1916
01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:13,360
Speaker 5: and I was like Kennedy and Zechaku and He's like, oh,

1917
01:29:13,439 --> 01:29:15,680
Speaker 5: that sounds good. Yeah, but is it right?

1918
01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:15,960
Speaker 9: God?

1919
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:19,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, Kennedy and Zechaku competing this weekend. Let

1920
01:29:19,439 --> 01:29:21,160
Speaker 5: us get to the main event challenge UFC Fight Night

1921
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Speaker 5: versus Murphy, and we begin on the main card in

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Speaker 5: the Midway division. Brad taboris minus two fifty eight right now.

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Speaker 5: In DraftKings Sports Book, Gerald Mershark comes back plus two

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Speaker 5: ten twenty six the UFC Star for Tavors. He has

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Speaker 5: dropped to fifteen and ten after losses in twenty twenty

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Speaker 5: four to Gregory Rodriguez and Jinyong Park. He is now

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Speaker 5: thirty seven and draws the also UFC tested GM three

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Speaker 5: BP take it away, my man.

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Speaker 4: Ooh, this fight.

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Speaker 10: This has been giving me fits all weekend. Boy, He's

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Speaker 10: been giving me fits all weekend. And I'll tell you why.

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Speaker 3: GM three.

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Speaker 10: Cash is an underdog. Like every time he fights, he's

1934
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Speaker 10: an underdog. He cashes, you win money.

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Speaker 3: We love it.

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Speaker 10: But I don't like the matchup for him here. I

1937
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Speaker 10: just think Brad Davars is so stubborn to get taken down.

1938
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Speaker 10: He's there, his leg kicks are potent. I know Brad

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Speaker 10: Davars is a little washy wave. He's been in the

1940
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Speaker 10: US for a long time. But man, I'm gonna go

1941
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Speaker 10: Brad Davars. I wanna go the dog. I want to

1942
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Speaker 10: go to the dog. I want to put the nuts

1943
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Speaker 10: on the table, But I'm gonna go Brad Davars. I

1944
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Speaker 10: think he kicks them up. I think he boxes them up,

1945
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Speaker 10: and I think he stops his takedowns. Uh give me,

1946
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Speaker 10: give me Brad Davarus.

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Speaker 5: All right, Perhaps this will change your opinion. Perhaps not.

1948
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Speaker 5: Gerald Mershark twelve and ten of the UFC. He is

1949
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Speaker 5: now though, back in the Midwest and in his corner.

1950
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Speaker 5: This weekend will be the UFC welterweight Champion Balao Muhammad

1951
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Speaker 5: and Mike Valley. He is back in Chicago and Milwaukee.

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Speaker 5: Still an interesting matchup here with Brad tavoris Ken flow

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Speaker 5: your thoughts?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I hope Meurshart's been picking Ball's brain a

1955
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Speaker 4: little bit on how to get in on those legs

1956
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Speaker 4: and hit those takedowns, because I think that's really what

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Speaker 4: this fight comes down to, Because you know, Tavares is

1958
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Speaker 4: gonna have the advantage on the feet, Murshart's gonna have

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Speaker 4: the advantage on the ground. If Merchard's able to get

1960
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Speaker 4: this fight to the ground, He's capable of submitting pretty

1961
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Speaker 4: much anyone in that division. I think he's that good

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Speaker 4: on the ground with his subs. But uh, Tavar's game

1963
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Speaker 4: is kind of tailor made for guys who may be

1964
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Speaker 4: really good on the ground but may not have the

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Speaker 4: best or elite takedowns. Tavars is really good takedown defense,

1966
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Speaker 4: especially up against the cage. He has great leg kicks,

1967
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Speaker 4: he can outpoint you. He's obviously very experienced. So I

1968
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Speaker 4: like this fight for for Tavares here as well.

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Speaker 5: All right, Next up in the heavyweight division, the aforementioned

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Speaker 5: Kennedy in Zecha Ku minus three to ten. Martin Boudaie

1971
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Speaker 5: is plus two fifty, so brid Budai.

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Speaker 4: How good can he be?

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Speaker 5: I don't know, but he's five and one of the

1974
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Speaker 5: UFC split decision win over Andre Rolovski that was UFC

1975
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Speaker 5: three h three last June, was to face risvon Kunie

1976
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Speaker 5: of last December at UFC three to ten. Boudai, though

1977
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Speaker 5: was forced to withdraw due to injury and a much

1978
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Speaker 5: different stylistic matchup for him here against the African savage

1979
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Speaker 5: in Zechiku BP. Who do you love?

1980
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Speaker 10: I don't know if I love anyone, Johnny, but i'd

1981
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Speaker 10: tell you yeah, I'm gonna lean Kennedy. I like him

1982
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Speaker 10: at heavyweight. He's a big dude. Two oh five is

1983
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Speaker 10: a lot for that body. For sure, him at him

1984
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Speaker 10: at heavyweight's the real deal.

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Speaker 3: Martin Boudeye.

1986
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Speaker 10: I used to call him booty on my show because

1987
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Speaker 10: I didn't know how to pronounce his name, so bootee.

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Speaker 3: I don't love watching this guy fight shots fired, Martin.

1989
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Speaker 4: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 10: I just think it's a little like he has his game.

1991
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Speaker 10: It's the stalling wall. I'm gonna put you against the

1992
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Speaker 10: wallmanna stall them will beat you up.

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Speaker 3: That's great.

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Speaker 10: He's very talented at that, but I just need a

1995
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Speaker 10: little more from him. Maybe he's developing still and he's

1996
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Speaker 10: gonna give me more. But I think Kennedy with the

1997
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Speaker 10: long range, that big power. I think this dude can

1998
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Speaker 10: be something the watch out for at heavyweight, you know

1999
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Speaker 10: what I mean?

2000
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Speaker 3: So I like Kennedy here. The number scares me a

2001
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Speaker 3: little bit at minus three ten. I'll be honest with you.

2002
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Speaker 3: I think it's gonna go over.

2003
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Speaker 10: I think will be a decision, and if there is

2004
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Speaker 10: a finish, I think Kenny's gonna get the finish here.

2005
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Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't love it, but give me Kennedy.

2006
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Speaker 5: Ken flowan Zechako kind of making moves here at heavyweight

2007
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Speaker 5: stop Chris Barnett and Lucas Dretski since moving up late

2008
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Speaker 5: twenty twenty four. Your thoughts on him this weekend about

2009
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Speaker 5: a three to one favorite against Martin Boudaye and John.

2010
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Speaker 4: I think it's a good move. I think it's a

2011
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Speaker 4: good fight for him as well, you know, But I

2012
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Speaker 4: I I don't really know how he wins this fight

2013
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Speaker 4: by finish. Like and obviously a big guy catches you,

2014
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Speaker 4: you know, just right, he could finish you. But he's

2015
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Speaker 4: kind of known for kind of these boring performances where

2016
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Speaker 4: he gets you up against the cage and kind of

2017
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Speaker 4: tries to control you. He chips away at you. Whereas

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Speaker 4: as Zecha Ku He's a killer, you know, He's a

2019
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Speaker 4: guy who can definitely take you out. And I like

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Speaker 4: Kennedy here. I think if he keeps this one on

2021
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Speaker 4: the feet especially, I think he wins this pretty easily,

2022
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Speaker 4: to be honest, you know, And I think he's gonna

2023
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Speaker 4: be able to keep this one of the feet. I

2024
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Speaker 4: think he stops these takedowns and and wins by just

2025
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Speaker 4: outstriking him, maybe even by finish. So I'm with Brian

2026
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Speaker 4: here as well.

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Speaker 5: And now I'm gonna have to tell the boss man

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Speaker 5: he can never schedule me for a fighter meeting with

2029
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Speaker 5: Martin Budaye because you GA's we're so fucking me. So thanks.

2030
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Speaker 5: So I talked a lot about Boston Jason Annik right

2031
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Speaker 5: in Dirty Box or whatever, but I I to admit

2032
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Speaker 5: some of you guys, I'm really underslept today, and so

2033
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Speaker 5: I thrashed my mouth open, brushing my teeth for the

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Speaker 5: first time in my life.

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Speaker 6: Oh.

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Speaker 5: I don't know exactly how it happened, but you know,

2037
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Speaker 5: I'm experiencing some gum pain right now. And it makes

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Speaker 5: me think that if I'm gonna bitch about this on

2039
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Speaker 5: the Anak and Florian podcast, then how am I gonna

2040
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Speaker 5: do you know when I get jabbed in the mouth

2041
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Speaker 5: by Boston and such?

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Speaker 10: We'll see, all right, custom mouthguard, Johnny, custom mouthguard, babe,

2043
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Speaker 10: Yeah right.

2044
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Speaker 5: You shouldn't need a mouth guard when you fucking brush

2045
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Speaker 5: your teeth. And the more I eat about a phantom weight,

2046
01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:34,160
Speaker 5: Shang Ho Lee is minus one seventy take it on,

2047
01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:38,280
Speaker 5: Cortavius Ramius? Who is Romius? Excuse me? Plus one forty two?

2048
01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:42,200
Speaker 5: So the South Korean lead ten and one. After winning

2049
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Speaker 5: his debut in the Road to UFC to Abandon Weight

2050
01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:47,799
Speaker 5: Tournament final over Shall Long and now he has favored

2051
01:34:47,840 --> 01:34:49,559
Speaker 5: near two to one to beat the two time contender

2052
01:34:49,680 --> 01:34:53,840
Speaker 5: series alumnus Cortavius Romius BP. What do you have for

2053
01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:54,439
Speaker 5: us on this one?

2054
01:34:54,840 --> 01:34:57,439
Speaker 10: I like this league, kid, boys, I like this lead

2055
01:34:57,560 --> 01:34:59,720
Speaker 10: as glasses. I might be seeing into the future, but

2056
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Speaker 10: I this good future.

2057
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Speaker 4: Listen.

2058
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Speaker 10: The South Korean Mma steam was really hot back and

2059
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Speaker 10: back in the day, don't Nung.

2060
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Speaker 3: Kim the stun gun?

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Speaker 9: Right?

2062
01:35:07,040 --> 01:35:09,559
Speaker 10: Yes, really good judo and really and then they kind

2063
01:35:09,560 --> 01:35:10,960
Speaker 10: of died a little bit. I'm obviously you got the

2064
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Speaker 10: Korean zombie. They're back now. There's a lot of really

2065
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Speaker 10: top level fighters, especially in the lower way classes coming

2066
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Speaker 10: from this.

2067
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Speaker 3: They're going through the road to UFC. They're making it

2068
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Speaker 3: into DFC and they're great. And Holy's really good.

2069
01:35:21,640 --> 01:35:24,360
Speaker 10: His ground and pound is good, his scrambling is good.

2070
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Speaker 10: He's a work in progress. Still he's ten to one,

2071
01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:29,439
Speaker 10: but I like this number. I minus one seventy Raminus

2072
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Speaker 10: a Roman.

2073
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Speaker 3: Excuse me. He faltered a little bit in his debut.

2074
01:35:32,840 --> 01:35:34,679
Speaker 3: I thought I thought he looked okay in the contenent series,

2075
01:35:34,680 --> 01:35:35,800
Speaker 3: and I thought you looked okay.

2076
01:35:35,840 --> 01:35:38,360
Speaker 10: And he's just been okay to me. I think Lee's

2077
01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:41,559
Speaker 10: special and can be special. And I'm we're getting them

2078
01:35:41,600 --> 01:35:43,599
Speaker 10: early here. We're getting them at a cheap price before

2079
01:35:43,640 --> 01:35:45,679
Speaker 10: he blows up till minus three forty is next time.

2080
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Speaker 3: So I'm all in on Holy here. Give me minus

2081
01:35:48,160 --> 01:35:49,280
Speaker 3: one seventy. I'll take it, Babe.

2082
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Speaker 5: Nicely done on the handicap, especially early week as always

2083
01:35:52,560 --> 01:35:57,479
Speaker 5: BP so man, this guy sounds like Royalty Cortavious Roamius.

2084
01:35:57,680 --> 01:35:58,120
Speaker 3: Great name.

2085
01:35:58,240 --> 01:36:00,519
Speaker 5: He is not a Moroccan or anything like that, though

2086
01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:03,240
Speaker 5: he is out of Saint Louis, Missouri, USA. Three one

2087
01:36:03,320 --> 01:36:06,400
Speaker 5: four dropped his UFC debut last November. Ken Flow BJJ

2088
01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:08,400
Speaker 5: guy lost on the Contenter series, then went to and

2089
01:36:08,520 --> 01:36:10,320
Speaker 5: one to get back there and wan to earn a

2090
01:36:10,400 --> 01:36:13,160
Speaker 5: UFC contract D contract. He is likely trying to preserve

2091
01:36:13,240 --> 01:36:14,040
Speaker 5: here this weekend.

2092
01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:20,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, he sounds like a Roman legionnaire, Cortevius Romius. Yeah,

2093
01:36:20,080 --> 01:36:22,519
Speaker 4: you know, he's a powerful guy, man. But I think

2094
01:36:22,600 --> 01:36:24,840
Speaker 4: that Chang Ho Lee is gonna be a little bit

2095
01:36:24,960 --> 01:36:28,960
Speaker 4: or Chong Chong Ho. I think, yeah, Chong Ho Lee.

2096
01:36:30,040 --> 01:36:33,360
Speaker 4: I think that he's a little bit better everywhere. I

2097
01:36:33,400 --> 01:36:35,360
Speaker 4: think Rome's might be a little bit more dangerous on

2098
01:36:35,479 --> 01:36:37,880
Speaker 4: the ground maybe with his attacks and in regards to

2099
01:36:37,960 --> 01:36:40,479
Speaker 4: submissions and things. But uh, Chang Ho Lee, I think

2100
01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:42,680
Speaker 4: that he's gonna be the bigger guy for sure. I

2101
01:36:42,720 --> 01:36:46,320
Speaker 4: think he's you know, a little more developed as a

2102
01:36:46,360 --> 01:36:49,000
Speaker 4: striker as well, and I think he should be able

2103
01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:51,479
Speaker 4: to win that takedown battle and get top position if

2104
01:36:51,520 --> 01:36:55,960
Speaker 4: it does go there. But yeah, give me Chang Ho Lee.

2105
01:36:56,560 --> 01:36:56,880
Speaker 6: All right.

2106
01:36:56,920 --> 01:36:58,800
Speaker 5: Sort of a lean fight card at the Apex this weekend.

2107
01:36:58,880 --> 01:37:01,080
Speaker 5: Let's get to the featherweight co main event. Nothing lean

2108
01:37:01,160 --> 01:37:03,559
Speaker 5: about this matchup. This is high level mixed martial arts.

2109
01:37:03,640 --> 01:37:07,160
Speaker 5: Jo Anderson Brito minus two eighteen. Pat Sabatini is plus

2110
01:37:07,240 --> 01:37:10,320
Speaker 5: one eighty, so Dean Thomas at the airport yesterday had

2111
01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:12,760
Speaker 5: so many nice things to say about Pat Sabatini, going

2112
01:37:12,840 --> 01:37:15,120
Speaker 5: so far as to say he could be a world champion.

2113
01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:17,479
Speaker 5: Absolute killer in the gym, has been a killer at

2114
01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:20,360
Speaker 5: times in the UFC. Right six and two former D

2115
01:37:20,560 --> 01:37:25,519
Speaker 5: one wrestler BETJJ BlackBelt born in Bristol, Pennsylvania. Last man

2116
01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:29,040
Speaker 5: to beat him now title challenger Diego Lopez. What do

2117
01:37:29,120 --> 01:37:31,719
Speaker 5: you think beatp? What does Sabatini have for the credential?

2118
01:37:31,840 --> 01:37:33,320
Speaker 5: Joe Anderson Brito this weekend.

2119
01:37:33,560 --> 01:37:35,439
Speaker 10: You know, I hate going against Dean Thomas because what

2120
01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:37,960
Speaker 10: a mine in the sport. But I'm actually confused by

2121
01:37:38,040 --> 01:37:42,080
Speaker 10: this line because besides Bill Aljio, Jonason Britto, I know

2122
01:37:42,160 --> 01:37:44,080
Speaker 10: he lost to William Gomeis, but that was a very

2123
01:37:44,520 --> 01:37:46,120
Speaker 10: controversial decision loss.

2124
01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:49,040
Speaker 3: But besides Bill Algio, this guy's run through everybody.

2125
01:37:49,439 --> 01:37:51,640
Speaker 10: He beat Diego Lopez on the Con Tenner series, Like

2126
01:37:51,720 --> 01:37:54,400
Speaker 10: this dude is the real deal, and I'm sitting here

2127
01:37:54,479 --> 01:37:55,599
Speaker 10: saying he's too eighteen.

2128
01:37:56,200 --> 01:37:59,560
Speaker 3: I think I smell a rat here, You know what

2129
01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:01,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm smelling a rat.

2130
01:38:01,080 --> 01:38:01,840
Speaker 4: I don't know what it is.

2131
01:38:01,960 --> 01:38:04,760
Speaker 10: Naked Jack Nicholson with a sound bite helped me out two.

2132
01:38:04,800 --> 01:38:08,760
Speaker 10: Eighteen's low brother, that's loaded me. No disrespect to Patsavatemy.

2133
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Speaker 10: He's been hurt on the feet before. Damon Jackson got

2134
01:38:11,640 --> 01:38:14,000
Speaker 10: out of there on the feet and Jonathan Brittell can wressle.

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Speaker 10: We saw what he did against Jonathan Piers. Johnthan Pierce

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Speaker 10: was using the cage, taking him down, basically show budding him,

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Speaker 10: and Jonathan Brittle fucking took his neck savaenteen. He's a

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Speaker 10: better grappler than Jonathan Pierce. He grapples in between fights.

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Speaker 10: He's phenomenal. But Jonathan Brinton is a brick of muscle

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Speaker 10: with good take down offence and insane power with some

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Speaker 10: proven cardio as well. He's gone three and I feel

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Speaker 10: like the ugly loss of gome is and a lot

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Speaker 10: people aren't talking about this guy anymore, and I think

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Speaker 10: that's why we're getting a load number here. Style makes fights.

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Speaker 10: I know we got grapple over Striker, but I do

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Speaker 10: think both these guys are obviously evolved more than that. Yeah,

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Speaker 10: but give me Jonathon Britto. I'm very confident in that

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Speaker 10: pick there to eighteen is not scaring me at all.

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Speaker 10: That is gonna be a load up for me this

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Speaker 10: weekend on my per side, and yeah, I'm confident.

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Speaker 4: In that pick boys Cancelo.

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Speaker 5: Brito had won five in a row before that split,

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Speaker 5: lost to William Gomes that was September twenty eighth of

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Speaker 5: last year. He is north of two to one against

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Speaker 5: Pat Sabatini this weekend.

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Speaker 4: Let me sprinkle a little bit of doubt and uncertainty

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Speaker 4: on this pit, Brian Petrie, Listen, I think Sabatini is

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Speaker 4: gonna be the better wrestler here. And I think that

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Speaker 4: Jo Anderson Brito does most of his best work on

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Speaker 4: the ground when he gets on top, when he has

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Speaker 4: been on bottom. You know, I would almost, I was

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Speaker 4: almost say that his ground game is bad, like the

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Speaker 4: decisions he makes, kind of the moves that he makes

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01:39:30,760 --> 01:39:33,000
Speaker 4: on the ground shows to me that he is not

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Speaker 4: comfortable on his back. Now that may change here in

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Speaker 4: this fight. He may have shown huge improvements, but to

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01:39:38,240 --> 01:39:41,880
Speaker 4: me it looks very white belt diish, maybe blue belt

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Speaker 4: dish at best. And I think that, you know, on top,

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Speaker 4: he's excellent with his ground and pound, you know, but

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Speaker 4: he does make mistakes on the ground. Who's the better striker, Well,

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Speaker 4: there's no question about that.

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Speaker 3: Johnderson.

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Speaker 4: Brito, if he lands a big shot or lands a

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Speaker 4: good combination, which he is absolutely capable of doing, can

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Speaker 4: take Sabatini out of there. I like the fact that

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Speaker 4: Sabatini has mixed things up. I think he hired a

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Speaker 4: sports psychologist in his last fight and looked awesome. You know,

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Speaker 4: when he puts it together, man, and he really lets

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Speaker 4: his grappling shine, he looks very good, you know, especially

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Speaker 4: when he's not tentative on the feet, and when he

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Speaker 4: looks tentative on the feet with that chin up in

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Speaker 4: the air, yeah, watch out. I think Brito wins this fight.

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Speaker 4: But I think that this is an interesting underdog pick.

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Speaker 4: I like Sabatini here. Is it enough for me to

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Speaker 4: put some money on him? Well, we'll find out a

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Speaker 4: couple five.

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Speaker 5: We'll find out in about five minutes, but not before

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Speaker 5: we dive in to the featherweight main event of the

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Speaker 5: even evening. Laron Murphy minus three twenty five and maybe climbing.

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Speaker 5: Josh Emmett is plus two sixty, perhaps because he is

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Speaker 5: a man and he is forty as of March fourth

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Speaker 5: of this year, Ken Flow. We will start with you here,

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Speaker 5: Josh Emmett last thought. Bryce Mitchell UFC two ninety six

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Speaker 5: December of twenty twenty three. Laren Murphy made his UFC

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Speaker 5: debut in twenty nineteen. He is seven oho to one

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Speaker 5: in the promotion seventh year ninth fight in activity has

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Speaker 5: been part of the narrative. He has never been beaten

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Speaker 5: in the octagon? Do you believe he preserves that? O?

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Speaker 5: In the main event this weekend Ken Flogohead, Very very

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Speaker 5: interesting fight.

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Speaker 4: I'm excited about this one now. Anytime Josh Emmett fights,

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Speaker 4: I'm all in. This is a guy who's been around

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Speaker 4: a very long time, really approaches this sport like a

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Speaker 4: professional athlete. One of the toughest guys in the game.

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Speaker 6: Though.

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Speaker 4: It definitely has that fighter in him, There's no question

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Speaker 4: about that. And that knockout against Bryce Mitchell. You know,

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Speaker 4: there's a few times where I'm concerned for fighters. You

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Speaker 4: see these nasty knockouts. That's one of those where I

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Speaker 4: was like, is Bryce Mitchell ever going to get up?

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Speaker 4: Did he just killed the man in the octout? That's

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Speaker 4: what it looked like. So clearly the guy's power is

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Speaker 4: at a completely different level. So Laurent Murphy really has

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Speaker 4: to mind his piece. And cues here with his defense.

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Speaker 4: And we have seen Murphy get hit, you know, in

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Speaker 4: his last couple of fights, we saw him take some shots.

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Speaker 4: Now he's got a good chin, but it doesn't matter

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Speaker 4: if you have a good chin, you get hit clean

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Speaker 4: by someone like Josh Emmont, you're going out.

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Speaker 5: Period.

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Speaker 4: What Laro Murphy does have is good feints and an

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Speaker 4: excellent job. That's what you need against Josh emmittt to

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Speaker 4: slow him down, to keep him hesitant. And you also

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Speaker 4: need good footwork with I think, which I think Laro

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Speaker 4: Murphy has. Now he has integrated some good takedowns and

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Speaker 4: grappling into his fights. If he's able to get that

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Speaker 4: going against Emmett, I think that would be great. I

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Speaker 4: don't think he's gonna have a whole lot of success

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Speaker 4: in taking down someone like Josh Emmett. If he does,

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Speaker 4: it's got to be explosive in one of those kind

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01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:40,240
Speaker 4: of double legs where he drives right through but up

2232
01:42:40,280 --> 01:42:43,040
Speaker 4: against the cage. I think Emmett's gonna have the takedown

2233
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Speaker 4: credentials to be able to withstand those takedown attempts. So

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Speaker 4: I think it really comes down to the striking. I

2235
01:42:48,640 --> 01:42:51,719
Speaker 4: think Murphy's the more skilled striker. Emmett's the more powerful

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01:42:51,800 --> 01:42:55,599
Speaker 4: and dangerous striker. Five rounds for Emmittt to find that chin.

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Speaker 4: But I think Laro Murphy's discipline has to be at

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Speaker 4: another level here, and I think it will be. He

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Speaker 4: has that experience, those five round fights now under his belt,

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Speaker 4: and I think this is a guy that may fight

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Speaker 4: for the belt in the future. So give me Laron

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Speaker 4: Murphy here. Not gonna be I'm gonna spoil it here,

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Speaker 4: Not gonna be enough for me to put some money down,

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Speaker 4: just because I respect Emmett that much in his power,

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01:43:17,000 --> 01:43:18,840
Speaker 4: but I think Murphy is gonna be able to win

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Speaker 4: a decision here.

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Speaker 5: Nicely laid out, can't flow Laurona Murphy minus three twenty five.

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Speaker 5: He is number ten in the world. Josh Emmitt is

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Speaker 5: number eight. Annakin Florian podcast respondents fifty three percent of

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Speaker 5: you like Josh EMMITTT plus two sixty VP. Who do

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Speaker 5: you have in the main event?

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Speaker 10: Well, not a lot of meat on the moone after

2253
01:43:33,840 --> 01:43:37,320
Speaker 10: Ken Flow just devoured that great breakdown from ken Flow. Obviously,

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Speaker 10: this is a hard one for me to pick because

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Speaker 10: obviously I'm a gambler, So I like the number on

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Speaker 10: Emmett and I'm glad Kenny hit On. Every time Josh

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01:43:45,240 --> 01:43:47,960
Speaker 10: Emmon fights, I get excited. It's not often, it's almost

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Speaker 10: a year and a half now that he's been away,

2259
01:43:49,640 --> 01:43:52,680
Speaker 10: but he goes to war. He puts everything out there

2260
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Speaker 10: and you gotta respect it and you gotta love that.

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Speaker 10: He's a very very fun fighting to watch. Not to

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Speaker 10: mention ungodly power. Right, Laura Murphy, who I rewatched, you

2263
01:44:01,680 --> 01:44:03,280
Speaker 10: know the Danyga fight. I felt like he was a

2264
01:44:03,280 --> 01:44:05,320
Speaker 10: little off. He got dropped in that fight and he

2265
01:44:05,400 --> 01:44:07,360
Speaker 10: looked good, but Daniyga can make anybody look bad.

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Speaker 3: But you go back and you watch you had some

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Speaker 3: barboza fight.

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Speaker 10: He landed two hundred twenty strikes, landed some takedowns and

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01:44:12,680 --> 01:44:14,680
Speaker 10: looked really good and win all five rounds. Showed some

2270
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Speaker 10: cardio and Laron Murphy it was defense is on point

2271
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Speaker 10: and his striking is on point.

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Speaker 3: You know, his head's on the swolve.

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Speaker 10: You can't run into anything with them, and I think

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Speaker 10: he can take over this fight easier said than done.

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Speaker 3: I like Laura Murphy. I don't like the number. I

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Speaker 3: think it's a little big.

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Speaker 10: I think we should maybe I wish it was lower

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Speaker 10: and then that's obviously a parlay piece for anybody, but

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Speaker 10: three twenty five is a little chunky for me.

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Speaker 5: I do like him.

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Speaker 10: I think he'll win a decision. That's probably how I'll

2282
01:44:37,880 --> 01:44:39,479
Speaker 10: play this fight. I don't see him finishing the guy

2283
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Speaker 10: like Josh Emmitt.

2284
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Speaker 3: But yeah, give me Laura Murphy.

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Speaker 5: That's a huge number, boys, minus three twenty five for

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Speaker 5: Lauroa Murphy. It's gonna be interesting when we sit here

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Speaker 5: and realign a week from now, right, and maybe we'll

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Speaker 5: be saying, hey, man, I guess he deserved that minus

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Speaker 5: three twenty five distinction. But my goodness, Josh Emit at

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Speaker 5: plus two sixty, I would think some people would be

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Speaker 5: inclined to take a look, just given the concussive nature

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Speaker 3: Final lines in the numbers. Regardless of what the numbers are.

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Speaker 3: I'm down. I'm down big.

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Speaker 10: So I did just tell you I really confident in Britto.

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Speaker 10: I do love Britto, but with him being that number,

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Speaker 10: I can't. I can't put the foul on him. I can,

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Speaker 10: It's just not gonna give me enough kickback. So what

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Speaker 10: I did here is I went five hundred on Chung

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Speaker 10: Holy minus one seventy. I love that number on him.

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Speaker 10: I love the fight for him. And then if you

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Speaker 10: want to follow me down to the prelimbs, right, we

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Speaker 10: is gonna go way down. I think we'll probably close

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Speaker 5: of this program is Cody Merrow. Thanks to our guest

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Speaker 5: Lura Sanko, the General Safe Syou Ray Longo, Brian Petree.

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Speaker 5: We are back in a week. We'll see if Laren

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Speaker 5: Murphy can hold serve as a prohibitive favorite against Josh Emmed,

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Speaker 5: and of course begin our two week preview of UFC

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Speaker 5: three fourteen. Volkanovski versus Lopez with that for Kenny Florian

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