1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in everybody to the Tuesday edition 3 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. I'm a 4 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: lot to get to with you today. Obviously, we now 5 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 1: know the identity and a whole lot more information about 6 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: the Nashville school shooter from yesterday. It was a transgender 7 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: individual pick the school out had a manifesto. The manifesto 8 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: has not been released at least I believe as we 9 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: speak to you right this moment, although it could come 10 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 1: out during the show, and if so, we will read 11 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 1: through it quickly to see. But we have analysis on 12 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: what happened there, and also on the Nashville Metro Police 13 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: side of things, body camera footage is out that shows 14 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: from at least two officers perspective officers Rex Engelbert and 15 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: Michael Colozzo, how they engage the target and they moved 16 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 1: to it right away. Heroic actions by Nashville police that 17 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: almost certainly saved lives in the process and did stop 18 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: the threat and did bring this horrific mass shooting in 19 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: Nashville to a conclusion. We've also got the discussion already 20 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: underway about how to deal with this. On the political side, 21 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 1: Joe Biden calling for an assault rifle ban. We heard 22 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: that yesterday right at the end of our program. The 23 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:43,279 Speaker 1: primary focus of all the Democrat aligned media is on guns, 24 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: of course, very little discussion about the mental health issues, 25 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: the obvious mental health issues that were involved here in 26 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: this mass casualty domestic terror attack. And I want to 27 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: explain why this is a domestic terror attack by all 28 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: of the definitions and our expectations about how we discuss 29 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: these things and how we how we analyze them, and 30 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 1: then we'll get into some politics. We've got some other 31 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: stories want to bring to your attention. Really interesting to see, Clay, 32 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: the Biden administration trying to pose already from Biden's Twitter 33 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: account and in other places, tough on crime and trying 34 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: to secure the border and actually calling out Republicans for 35 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: being weak on those issues. If you want to see 36 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: how much of an inversion of reality they're willing to 37 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: engage in when it comes to the twenty twenty four 38 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: election and how they're going to get people to vote 39 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: from all right, Clay, let's we went off airy yesterday 40 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: and a lot more information came out about the shooter 41 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: I want to get to that second because first the 42 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: breaking news and it just came out in the last 43 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: hour and a half or so, is that Nashville Metro 44 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 1: Police on a number of levels, I think here is 45 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: showing you textbook execution of the you know, what you 46 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: should do in a mass shot incident like this, and 47 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: also textbook transparency, which is really important getting information out 48 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: right away, updating it right away. You could really tell 49 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: in that press conference yesterday, even when the Chief of 50 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: police came out that they were just telling everybody what 51 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: they had and as they had new information, they told 52 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: them new information. This is really in many ways it 53 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: seems like the opposite of the uval day police response, 54 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: which was very confused withholding and then we know in 55 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: the end cowardly is what happened there. This is the 56 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: opposite of that. These officers were heroes. And we'll actually 57 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: play some of the body camera footage and assess what 58 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: happened here in a second, Yeah, no doubt, And I 59 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: would encourage everybody out there listening to us right now 60 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: to seek out the body camera footage. We're going to 61 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: play you some audio, but I think you need to 62 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: see it. And frankly, I think you need to share 63 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: it with people, maybe in your own lives, who've been 64 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: critical of police, because we all know that every time 65 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: a police officer makes a mistake, the video goes viral 66 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: of that body camera mistake of that incident. This is 67 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: a what appears to me to be a clinical response 68 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: by the Nashville Police Department from there's a six minute 69 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: video buck of the police officer pulling up, getting out, 70 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: opening up the trunk of his car, unloading his rifle, 71 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: being informed by a employee of the school, Hey, here's 72 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: where we think the shooter is. The kids are locked down, 73 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: here's what you need to know. And then to be 74 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: able to follow both of the hero cops who eventually 75 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: brought down this killer, to be able to follow them 76 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: in real time and see as they are searching the 77 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 1: school and attempting to find their way towards the shots 78 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: to protect those kids. It's everything we didn't see an 79 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 1: uve all day, and I think every single police department 80 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: in the country in the same way that they may 81 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: have looked at you've all day and said we can 82 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: never do this again. They failed on so many different levels. 83 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: They need to be using this Nashville footage as tape 84 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 1: of how to handle a school shooting. Fuck, from the 85 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: moment they entered that school to the moment they took 86 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: down that shooter was a little bit over three minutes. 87 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: From the moment that one of the police officers who 88 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: took down the shooter literally pulled up in his car 89 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,679 Speaker 1: to taking down that shooter was six minutes. For everybody 90 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: out there who wants to micromanage, attack and try to 91 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: defund the police, this is a clip that needs to 92 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: be spread widely. It is violent, it is graphic to 93 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 1: some extent, but I think it's important for people to 94 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: experience what the real life moments to moment life of 95 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: a cop is like. And I think when you watch 96 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: that footage, actually here, let's play we have the end 97 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: of it, the moment where these officers you have to 98 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: have to remember they're going in. They don't know who 99 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 1: this person is in terms of the level of training 100 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: and proficiency. They don't know if this person has set 101 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: up an ambush for them. They don't know what the 102 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: firing angles are they're walking into. They don't know if 103 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: this person has incendiary or explosive devices. I mean, they're 104 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,559 Speaker 1: just going into a school shooting. They have very little 105 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: information that every room that they walk into. I mean, 106 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 1: for a lot of our folks listening who are former military, 107 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: you know, they know it was like clearing rooms in Iraq, 108 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: clearing rooms in Afghanistan. Going into these compounds in Afghanistan, 109 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: every room you walk into you could take an AK 110 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: forty seven round. Well, in this case, every room they 111 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: walked into, these officers they could have been they could 112 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: have been mowed down by a barricaded shooter. So the 113 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: fact that it came off the way that it did, 114 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: they did this with precision, professionalism, and courage. And here 115 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: is how the final moment, the confrontation with that shooter sounded. 116 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: Play it. What's stop? Movid stop movid, what's up? What's up? 117 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: Suspect down, suspect down. I want to say, Clay, we 118 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: have body camera footage from officers Rex Engelbert and Michael Colozzo, 119 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: who both took shots to take down the shooter. In 120 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: that footage, there were other officers present there as well. 121 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: If we know their names, will read them on air 122 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: as well. I haven't. I haven't seen the other officers 123 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: named yet. Um, we should pull them up because they 124 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: took the same risks they were in effectively, they didn't 125 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: really move in a stack, but they were moving in 126 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: the same cover formation. And all those officers showed us 127 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: exactly what cops are supposed to do, what we praise 128 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: them for doing, and what the expectations of the American 129 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: people for their law enforcement are. And I think for 130 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: a lot of people this was you know, this was 131 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: a lot of people in the law enforce and community, 132 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: and I can speak for them to degree that they've 133 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: told me this. You know, they were all furious after 134 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: you've all day. Every law enforcement officer in the country 135 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: can watch what happened here in Nashville in terms of 136 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: this response and say that's who we are and that's 137 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: how we save lives. I think they did better than 138 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 1: social workers would have buck for everybody out there who 139 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: tried to make this ridiculous argument to defund the police 140 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: and that in moments of violence, what we really needed 141 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: to do was bring in social workers to talk to 142 00:08:56,040 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: people who are contemplating issues of violence. These guys are badasses, 143 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: and I can't impress upon you enough how much I 144 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:08,719 Speaker 1: would encourage you to go watch the video. You can 145 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: hear the audio, the alarm going off in the background. 146 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: The default to training buck in a situation like this, 147 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: it is as as a way person. It is a 148 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 1: flawlessly executed It appears to me six minute video that 149 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: almost feels like it could be a training exercise because 150 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: they were so perfect in the way that they performed. 151 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: When you watch it and they're going room to room, 152 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: they're communicating, you know, you've got to remember these officers, 153 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: I mean, their hearts are beating out of their chests, 154 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: which affects their particularly fine motor skills. But you know everything, 155 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: you could hear that noise, you could hear the situation 156 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: they're going into. It's chaotic there. They blur them in 157 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: the video. There are bodies that you see some of 158 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: the at least one or two of the individuals who 159 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 1: are killed, civilians who were killed in this um. So 160 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: they're seeing dead bodies. They know they've got an active shooter. 161 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: It's very loud. They have no idea where the shooter is. 162 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: They've got no intel on that at all. And like 163 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: I said, every room they walk into they could be 164 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: walking into, you know, they could be walking into rifle 165 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: fire or a close distance which even with play vests on, 166 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: I mean, you know you're you're very likely not going 167 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: to be able to make it through that. And they 168 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: did it. You could tell there was no hesitation, There 169 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: was no Oh, I don't know, Maybe we should wait 170 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: for even more back up, Maybe we need an armored 171 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: vehicle to come in here for us, or I mean, 172 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: it was just we're going there are kids at risk, 173 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: there are adults at risk. We are taking action right 174 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: now to save lives. And you know it today, they 175 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: did it very well and under the circumstances when you 176 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: think back to what they were walking into, took takes 177 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: tremendous bravery. Any one of those officers could have been 178 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: killed in that situation that circumstance. Honestly, all of them 179 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: could have been and they moved like they were doing 180 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: it to save other people's lives. They all want to 181 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: go home to their families at the end of the night. 182 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: You know, people gotta remember that that's going to enter 183 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: into their heads too. They walk into that building, it's 184 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: I've got a wife and three kids at home, or 185 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 1: I've got a you know, a wife and a child 186 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: on the way, or whatever it may be. And they 187 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: know every room they walk into could be their last, 188 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: and they moved without hesitation. I just want any critic 189 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: of the police to watch this video and and I 190 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: would encourage and look, we've been critical on this show. 191 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: I mean many of you who are very critical of 192 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: you all day. I said it was cowardly, and by 193 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: the way, that was true. It was the response and 194 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: you've all day was cowardice, and we said it. And 195 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: sometimes that upsets people when you when you say something 196 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 1: like that, but you've got to be honest. And what 197 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 1: I would say is, if you are someone out there 198 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: who is a critic of the police and you will 199 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: share every single negative video involving a police officer, I 200 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: would encourage you to go watch that video, the six 201 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: minute version of that video in particular where you'd literally 202 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: see the officer pull up, and think about the circumstances 203 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,719 Speaker 1: that those guys are in Buck because as you watch them, 204 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 1: have to go into these different classrooms in an active 205 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: shooter situation, and they don't know where the shooter is, 206 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: and they're trying to clear the rooms as they are 207 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: working their way up, they're trying to find their way 208 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: the stairwells. They've never been building before, they have no 209 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: real idea where they're headed, and there's shots being fired, 210 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: and there's kids being killed, there's innocent teachers being killed, 211 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: and they got there. From the moment that they enter 212 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: that school until the shooter is down is a little 213 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 1: over three minutes. From the moment they pull up in 214 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,719 Speaker 1: their police cruiser to the moment that shooter is down 215 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: is six minutes. It's almost impossible to do better now 216 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: we come back. I do think it's worth having a 217 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: discussion not only about who the shooter was, in their background, 218 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: everything else. Same conversation we had after Uvalde Buck. I've 219 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: got three kids that were in Nashville schools, three different ones, 220 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: all of them have armed security guards in them. Why 221 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 1: can't we give a hundred billion dollars to Ukraine and 222 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: we can't protect every kid in a school in America. 223 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: I think that's a pretty conversation. The reporting is still 224 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 1: out there that the shooter chose this school instead of 225 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: another school because of the higher security at the other school. 226 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: Now I know that the shooter went to this school 227 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: as a student, but there was another school. I don't 228 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: believe they've named with who what the other school is. 229 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: I would assume that school probably had a resource officer. 230 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: I think every person in America, who would ever consider 231 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: going to a school needs to understand there's going to 232 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: be an armed person there that they're going to have 233 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: to get through, because I think that could change in 234 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 1: many ways the decision making there. We'll talk about that 235 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: and more as we continue to break it down. Appreciate 236 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: all of you hanging out with us, and thanks to 237 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: all the brave men and women of the Nashville Police Department. 238 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: And thanks to that police department for getting out that 239 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: footage with which I think is going to go a 240 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: long way towards combating anti cop sentiment in this country. 241 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: If you're a customer of Verizon, T Mobile, AT and T, 242 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 1: don't fall for their free phone deals. There's no such 243 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: thing as a free without a book attached. Like locking 244 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: into a long term contract, it's going to cost you 245 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 1: a fortune every month. Instead, look to Pure Talk. 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I'm up in Washington, DC, 266 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: by the way, I appreciate the Heritage Foundation hosting me here. 267 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: I'm speaking at an event tonight in dcb Back in 268 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: Nashville tomorrow, But Buck, I drop off my kid at 269 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: elementary school pretty much every day, and when I do that, 270 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: there is a school resource officer that is an armed 271 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: where I live. Williamson County Deputy who is assigned to 272 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: the school that my kid goes to. I have a 273 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: middle school kid in Nashville. There's also an armed officer 274 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: there as well, and there are armed security at my 275 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: high schools school as well. One of the lessons that 276 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: I think we have to keep hammering home here and 277 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: I don't see this as remotely partisan. Every single school 278 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: in America needs an armed security guard, every single one. 279 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: And that is important because when you have these lunatic 280 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: lounds like this crazy transgender murderer, she needs to or 281 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: he needs to or whoever. The people out there are 282 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: thinking about doing this need to think before I can 283 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: get to those kids who are innocent and unprotected, I'm 284 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: going to have to go through a badass to get there, 285 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: and that person will probably wipe me out and buck. 286 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: There's got to be a lot of people out there, 287 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: even if it's not people who want to be police officers, 288 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: that are retired military, that are in their late thirties 289 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: early forties, that want to have a job like this. 290 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: I think it's important because again, the kids in my 291 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: school learn to interact with police, they learn that they 292 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: are there to help them, that they are trustworthy. I 293 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: think it's an important lesson for every kid to learn. 294 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: But I don't understand why it isn't uniform everywhere. Every 295 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: kid should have an arm security force inside of their school. 296 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: I mean think of this honestly from a from a 297 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: budgetary perspective, how many how many schools have And I'm 298 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: not trying to make this a yeah, a d EI 299 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: discussion or a CRT discussion. Understand though, but we're wasting 300 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 1: a lot of administrator education. Yeah, you know, additional administrators. 301 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: And people wonder what is the the the growth and 302 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: administrator positions at schools across the nation is like seven 303 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: times the growth of actual teachers. Yes, um, so if 304 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: we got a lot of if we have all this 305 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 1: money for administrators, I do think, you know, security procedures, 306 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 1: it makes it makes sense. I don't see, you know. 307 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: I wonder why you know the Democrats are so some 308 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: of them. I will say, this is where you can 309 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 1: get some. You can get some somewhat bipartisan. 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We've also been to 336 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 1: bring you the most up to date information and everything 337 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: that is known at this point about this shooter, because 338 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 1: if we're going to prevent things, we have to understand 339 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: these evil incidents and understand not only the security. Clay 340 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: was just talking about armed guards, arm guards in schools 341 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: and even just having one armed guard, even just the 342 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: prospect that a school shooter knows there may very well 343 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 1: be there probably is somewhere on the premises in armed guard. 344 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: It could affect the calculation and make sure that schools 345 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: are less soft targets than they currently are. I think 346 00:19:55,880 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: that's a completely realistic and sensible approach, and that's meant 347 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: to save lives. It's not about politics, it's not about 348 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 1: who's going to win the next election. Saving lives is 349 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: the only impetus for putting more armed resource officers in 350 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: schools across the country, and that so that's one component 351 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: of this as well. The response, and we played it 352 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 1: for you um earlier. We probably will come back to 353 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: in the third hour of the program. Response from Nashville 354 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: Police officers, and if we find the other names team 355 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,919 Speaker 1: let me know. But officers Rex Engelbert and Michael Colozzo, 356 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 1: their body camera footage already released. Textbook. I've had, I've 357 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: had former former police reaching out you. By the way, 358 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: if you want to weigh in and you are former 359 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: SQUAT or involved in police on the or military on 360 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: the on the tactical room clearing side, and you saw 361 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: that video, you want to add your analysis to it, 362 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: please do call in. Eight hundred two eight two two 363 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: eight eight two. I know we have SQUAT commanders who 364 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: listened to this long time SWAT. We have Green Berets, 365 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: we got everybody, Delta Seals, they all listen to this show. 366 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: But I've already Clay had people who are special operations 367 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 1: and people who are the equivalent of special operations within 368 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 1: the law enforcement community, you know SWAT. It's called EESU 369 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 1: and the MYPD Emergency Services Unit. They've said, very well 370 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 1: done by these officers. Obviously the outcome stopping the threat 371 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: first and foremost, but even just moving through the rooms 372 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: the way they did. This will be taught. This will 373 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: be video footage that law enforcement officers in training for 374 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 1: situations like this will likely be seeing Okay, there's also 375 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: the motive component of this. We don't have the manifesto yet, 376 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: we know there is a manifesto. We know the shooter 377 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: is a biological female or a female who was living 378 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: life as a man insofar as demanding him pronouns and 379 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: changed the name, changed the individual's name. Interesting to see 380 00:21:56,119 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: that news media was generally referring to this person as 381 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: a she and then USA today, I'm sure some of 382 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 1: you saw this started to get into oh, we didn't 383 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: mean to miss gender the mass murderer who is also 384 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: and I want to be clear if any you know, 385 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: it's amazing Clay people. You know when I tweeted this 386 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: out yesterday, sure this is a This is a trans 387 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 1: domestic terrorist. That is, this is a person who is transgender, 388 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: who is almost certainly at this point acting out in 389 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: part tied to the belief that either it's the Christian 390 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: School or the state of Tennessee with the ban on surgeries. 391 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 1: There is clearly an ideological component of transgenderism that was 392 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 1: at work here. It is a trans domestic terrorist, and 393 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 1: it's amazing to see all these people coming out Clay 394 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,360 Speaker 1: and they attack me either personally or my analysis. Who 395 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: are you to say such a thing? And I sit 396 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 1: here and say I don't know. Five years in the 397 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 1: CIA counter Terrorism Center, briefing the President twice about Kennter 398 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 1: terrorism operations overseas, and working for the NYPD in Tellence 399 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: Division on terror, like I think I know what a 400 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: terrorist is. And if you look at Dylan Roof and 401 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 1: you look at some of the other mass shooting events, 402 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: the media immediately starts talking about domestic terrorism. By the way, 403 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 1: I don't disagree with that assessment, but here you wouldn't 404 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 1: even know that there could be an ideological component of 405 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 1: what happened if you read most of the headlines and 406 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: saw most of the coverage, that's right, And Buck, I 407 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: mean to take people behind the scenes. What did I 408 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 1: say off air? Almost as soon as some of these 409 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: details started coming out, I said that based on the 410 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: elementary school being targeted, based on this being a woman, 411 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: it seemed, and being armed with three different guns, something 412 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: wasn't adding up here, right, This wasn't some sort of 413 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: domestic dispute. I found it unlikely that it was going 414 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: to be somebody's mom who suddenly flipped out and went 415 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: in with three different guns to try to murder kids, 416 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: I said almost immediately off the air, because I didn't 417 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 1: want to speculate on the air that given what the 418 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 1: trans gender temperature has been in the state of Tennessee 419 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: over this so called gender affirming care being banned and 420 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: also the ridiculous shows, right, these drag shows being banned 421 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: for young children, that there was a high temperature, particularly 422 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: in Nashville, over this, and it didn't surprise me that 423 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: it tipped out. Now here's the truth, Okay, we should 424 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: be if we had an honest media and an impartial media, 425 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: people would be asking the question, was this girl on 426 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: transgender medications? Right? This killer testosterone hormones, etc. Is there 427 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: any study about what that can do to your behavior 428 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 1: and the choices that you make. Individuals are responsible for 429 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: the choices they make, as we all know. But whenever 430 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,959 Speaker 1: one of these situations arises, we have an immediate analysis. Right. 431 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 1: If this were a white guy who had voted for 432 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: Donald Trump that had done this shooting in Nashville, this 433 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 1: would be domestic terrorism. Merrett Garland would have already have 434 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 1: you guys all know this. Merrett Garland would have already 435 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: had a press conference. He probably would have flown to 436 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: Nashville already and say white men Trump supporters, this extension 437 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: of January sixth, domestic terrorism is the biggest threat. Is 438 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: Joe Biden going to get on a plane and come 439 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: to Nashville? So far he hasn't. I believe we have 440 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 1: the audio, in fact, Buck, of Joe Biden. Yesterday we 441 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 1: played this live on the air because we were so 442 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 1: confused that it was going on. Joe Biden before he 443 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: came out and actually addressed the kids that had been 444 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 1: murdered in Nashville, actually talked about how much he likes 445 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: ice cream. Listen to cut fourteen. This is what was 446 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: going on when Joe Biden came down and started addressing 447 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 1: the White House and the crowd. This aired live on 448 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 1: Fox News. Listen, my name is Joe Biden. I'm doctor 449 00:25:54,480 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: Joe Biden's husband's ice cream chocolate Chip. I came down 450 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 1: because here there was chocolate tip ice cream. By the way, 451 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: I have a whole refrigerator fall upstairs. I think I'm kidding. 452 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 1: I'm not okay, super weird, Buck, I mean, look, you 453 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 1: and I this news was breaking yesterday. Treat our audience 454 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 1: with respect. Hey, here are the details. Here's what we know, 455 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,360 Speaker 1: here's where we think this story is going. Here's what 456 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: you all need to know. We didn't come on and say, hey, 457 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: let's make a joke about how much we like ice 458 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,959 Speaker 1: cream and then try to pivot in fact, Buck, as 459 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: you well know, yesterday off air, we had conversations. It's 460 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: hard to talk about anything else because this is such 461 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: an emotional in the moment event that has just occurred. 462 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 1: The president can't come down and address what's going on 463 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: in a sober and serious way. He comes down and 464 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: starts making jokes about ice cream, and it's it's very strange. 465 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: Can I can I point out, you know yesterday I 466 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: said right as this happened, and they said that it 467 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 1: was remember originally into to the law enforcements credit here 468 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: this needs to be There are a couple of standard 469 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,719 Speaker 1: setting aspects of what happened in the law enforcement response 470 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: in Nashville yesterday. Obviously, most importantly, they stop the threat. 471 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 1: The officers on the scene ran in to the I 472 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: mean to the sound of the gunfire, or to the 473 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 1: degree they could looking anywhere they could for whoever they 474 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 1: could stop the threat. But also the flow of information 475 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 1: to the public. This is important. People need to know 476 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: when the information. There's no reason for law enforcement to 477 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: hold back on this stuff generally unless they're trying to 478 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: do a secondary arrest they think there's a co conspirator. 479 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: Anything else, there's no reason to delay. And what you 480 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 1: generally see in a lot of departments, and you know, 481 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: obviously the mayor or the governor's getting involved that this 482 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: kind of an incident is the delay of facts being 483 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: released in certain cases, and the delay of facts depending 484 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 1: on what the narrative may be. And you start to 485 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: hear this, we may never know the mode if the 486 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 1: only time they say we may never know the motive 487 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 1: of a terrorist attack, which is what this was, or 488 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: any mass casualty incident is when the perpetrator and the 489 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: ideology involved is something that the Democrat left does not 490 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: want to hear about. Yesterday, when they told us that 491 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,479 Speaker 1: there was a teenage it was a teenage girl who 492 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: did the shooting, they updated said a woman. What did 493 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: we say right away? Very rare, very rare for there 494 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: to be a female mass shooter. Not unprecedented, but there 495 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: are I think less you can count them on one 496 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: hand for the last thirty or forty years. And then 497 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,239 Speaker 1: though the conversation becomes later on we found out this 498 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: was a transgender individual. Well, that recently is less rare. 499 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: You know, when you look at, for example, the Colorado 500 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: Springs shooting in twenty twenty two. Does anyone even remember 501 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: this at this point? Think about how really go by 502 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 1: your memory and what the media focus is on. Do 503 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: you remember that there were five people who were murdered 504 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: in an LGP LGBTQ nightclub in Colorado Springs. You may 505 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: vaguely remember this, even though it's a horrific mass shooting event, 506 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: and Clay it was the individual involved was trans, and 507 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: they claimed that he was not actually trans in the 508 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: media and then made the story go away because it 509 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: didn't fit the narrative. What we saw in Nashville was 510 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: we'll see you in full, you know fully in the 511 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: manifesto it was clearly a domestic terrorist act. It was ideological. 512 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: You could argue it was a hate crime as well. 513 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: Those things are not mutually exclusive. But the media is 514 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: not talking about it like that at all. The media 515 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: is trying to make this story much of the media 516 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: should say the democratic line. Media maken go way quickly. 517 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: In fact, when we come back, we'll play you a 518 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: clip from CNN of a person saying, I don't even 519 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: know why we need to talk about it being a 520 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: trans killer. That's not the real story. Here the guns are. 521 00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: We'll play that for you and we come back. 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Tens of millions of 546 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: you are subscribing lots of cool, unique offerings for that podcast. 547 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: All you have to do is search out my name, 548 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: Clay Travis, search out Buck Sexton, boom. You will be 549 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 1: well on your way of being able to hear every 550 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 1: single moment of the program. We put out the call 551 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: there eight hundred two eight two two eight eight two. 552 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: If you're in law enforcement, if you have been involved 553 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: in squat training, based on the videos that you have 554 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: seen of the Nashville Police Department's response to this school shooter, 555 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: what was your reaction. We've got several different people who 556 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: want a way in. Beginning with George in Missouri. George 557 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: what did you think of the video? What do you 558 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: think of the Nashville Police Department or spy. I think 559 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: the Nashfield Police Department did a great job. Hey, thanks 560 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 1: for taking my call. Um. The only problem is they're 561 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: a little slow because they're fourteen minutes away. That's what 562 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: I thought yesterday. That's what I said. I thought that 563 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: the two with the neutralization of the threat. So what 564 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: would you say as a former special forces guy, do 565 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: you like the idea of having armed security in every school? 566 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: Does that make sense to you? Yeah? I briefed the 567 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: Lieutenant Governor in North Carolina, Dan Forrest, a few years 568 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: ago when he was still the lieutenant governor, on a 569 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: plan to secure all the school and my number one 570 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: priority was armed any of the faculty that wished to 571 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: be trained and armed, which wouldn't cost that much money. 572 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: And then put signage up around in school saying, hey, 573 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: our our faculty is armed. That would stop probably ninety 574 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: percent of people coming in to shoot up that school. 575 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: And then yeah, I understand, but sorry to cut you off, 576 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: I understand that idea. I think some people will say, well, 577 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: if you put more guns in, I'm just playing devil's 578 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: advocate here. If you don't have people who are well 579 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: trained with guns and they're around kids, like, could there 580 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: be more incidents that arise of shootings? But a trained 581 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: security guard to me is a no brainer. Buck. I 582 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: understand people like, if you're a former marine and you 583 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: want to have a gun, I'm fine with it. But 584 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: I don't know necessarily that I want your average teacher 585 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: to see a couple of things. One is that there's 586 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: a and John Lott with more guns less crime. And 587 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 1: also his analysis on this is the foremost individual on 588 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: the data. What does the data actually tell us? And 589 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: conceal carry permits, for example, bring down violent crime wherever 590 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: they adopt conceal carry permits, And they wonder, why is 591 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: that you would think there's more guns on the streets, 592 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: why would there be fewer violent crimes? Because it's not. 593 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: And this is like, so I will say, I mean 594 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: a member of my family is conceal carries all the time, 595 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: all the time, Okay, obviously legally down here in Florida 596 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: conceal carries. And he always says he doesn't just conceal 597 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: carry for him, he can carries for everybody around him 598 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: and also for anybody out there who is thinking about 599 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: doing bad things. They got to know that there are 600 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: good guys out there. They have to take that calculation 601 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: of mind. So let's say you have ten schools. Not 602 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: every school is gonna want to have an armed resource officer. 603 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: Fun it should be a choice. I don't think it 604 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: should necessarily be a mandate for the school, though some 605 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 1: people may disagree with that. But if five of the 606 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: schools have resource officers and two of the schools have 607 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: somebody who is a concealed carry permit holder on the premises, 608 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 1: the bad guys, you know, they have to assume they 609 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: don't know who that is, right, So the concealed carry 610 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: component of this added to the resource officer component, can 611 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 1: create different calculations for somebody who would try to use 612 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 1: this as a soft target, effectively clay. It's like if 613 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 1: the guy if someone doesn't know if you have a gun, 614 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: arrive a gun, but one of us has a gun, 615 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 1: Robbing either of us is a bad idea. Yeah, by 616 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 1: the way, I don't even think it'should be a school choice. 617 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: I think like states should individually mandate we're going to 618 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: have armed secure in every school, and my kids have it. 619 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: I want every kid to have it in my state. 620 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: I wanted something something that I think is interesting. Concealed 621 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: carry permit holders are by the numbers, not just more 622 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 1: law abiding than every day folks, they are more law 623 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 1: abiding by per capita than law enforcement. Think about that 624 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 1: for a sec That's a great stat Charlie in Minnesota, Charlie, 625 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: what do you think? I think, thank you for taking 626 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 1: my call. And I think Nashville PD did exactly what 627 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,760 Speaker 1: they've been trained on a long time and now retired 628 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: firefighter and have participated in a lot of training with 629 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,879 Speaker 1: our law enforcement brothers and sisters on this and when 630 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: we and there's really two programs that we train and 631 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 1: have trained on. They're called Alert and three Echo, and 632 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 1: both of those programs teach the officers to move and 633 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: engage the shooter as quickly as possible. And you saw 634 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: that with their switch when they were doing their room 635 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: clearing searcher jokes, who were fantastic, and then they switched 636 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 1: to go to the gunshots and that's what that's tin 637 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,439 Speaker 1: they're trained to do, and they did a fantastic job. 638 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 1: And also you saw them put the officer in the 639 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 1: front with the LPVO. You heard him call that out 640 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: on the on the body cam and and made sure 641 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,240 Speaker 1: their precision marksman was in the lead and on point 642 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 1: un interdicting the shooters. So it was it was a 643 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: really it was a really good response from those officers, 644 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 1: and um, you know, you could see it for yourself, 645 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,839 Speaker 1: so anyone, anywhere, everyone can know exactly what they went through. 646 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 1: I mean doing a a you know, bounding overwatch thrill 647 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 1: uh in the past. I'm sure these officers had trained 648 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,839 Speaker 1: up on this. It was good. It was the way 649 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 1: way officers need to do it. Anyway, Um, we want 650 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 1: to talk motive a little bit, the politics of this, 651 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,919 Speaker 1: Biden calling for an assault rifle band, and then um, 652 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 1: we've also got Trump had a sit down with our 653 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: friend Sean Hannity last night. We'll discuss that coming up.