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Speaker 1: We're here to break it all down. Look, god, this

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Speaker 3: No, we're live from your tail game.

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Speaker 1: Here's Brian Nook, former Penn State All American, Rich Hornberger,

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Speaker 1: and FSR betting analyst Jared Smith.

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Speaker 2: Oh, what's going on?

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Speaker 4: Welcome in, Happy Saturday to you as we are off

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Speaker 4: and running. We got three college football playoff games today,

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Speaker 4: a couple of NFL games as well. Nice full slate

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Speaker 4: of all today. Very excited about it. Good morning, Jared,

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Speaker 4: Good morning Rich. Football is well with you, guys. I'll

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Speaker 4: tell you what I think off the jump.

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Speaker 2: We have to.

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Speaker 4: We have to redo a model which was ripped off

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Speaker 4: by the way. I didn't know Oklahoma had this whole

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Speaker 4: mantra of hard to kill. This is our guy, Kirby Smart.

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Speaker 4: Kirby Smart said this earlier this year. This is my

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Speaker 4: favorite sound bite of the season.

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Speaker 2: The one thing we are we're hard to kill.

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Speaker 4: That's right, Kirby Smart. That's a beautiful thing right there.

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Speaker 4: As after they came back against Old Miss had a

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Speaker 4: brilliant fourth quarter, and he said that. And then last

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Speaker 4: night at Oklahoma they got hoodies what's hard to kill

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Speaker 4: and fifty cent is coming out with hard to kill

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Speaker 4: on his shirt.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, what is going on?

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Speaker 4: This is a Georgia.

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Speaker 2: Thing, right.

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Speaker 4: We need to rebrand this hard to not kill ourselves

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Speaker 4: because that's what Oklahoma did last night. You talk about

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Speaker 4: shooting your elf in the foot and killing yourself time

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Speaker 4: and time again. They had a seventeen to nothing lead

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Speaker 4: and threw it in the trash. That was unbelievable. Man,

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Speaker 4: that was That was a horrible display by Oklahoma. And listen,

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Speaker 4: I don't want to take all credit away from Alabama.

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Speaker 4: You know, I've been critical of them. I think they're

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Speaker 4: absolute fools. Gold I don't buy their formula for success

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Speaker 4: at all. I don't think they're built to last. They

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Speaker 4: made a couple of plays last night. They pressured Matiir

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Speaker 4: who all of a sudden was like Jared Goff facing

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Speaker 4: a pass rush. I don't know what happened to Matier

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Speaker 4: last night. He was brutal Alabama made a couple of plays,

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Speaker 4: but that was more so about Oklahoma just killing themselves

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Speaker 4: time and time and time again. In my mind, I

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Speaker 4: don't know how you guys saw it.

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Speaker 2: Well, listen, I'm not and I told you so guy,

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Speaker 2: But I definitely am the type of person who when

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Speaker 2: somebody says something really strong, it sticks with me. And

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, Brian, I am noticing that your

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Speaker 2: stance is softening a little bit here, because the last

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Speaker 2: time we spoke, you and Alabama are complete frauds. They

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Speaker 2: are complete frauds.

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Speaker 4: They are well nothing there, they are fulls gold. Nothing

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Speaker 4: has changed. They beat a bum Oklahoma team. Wow, you're

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Speaker 4: supposed to throw flowers at their feet?

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Speaker 2: What are we doing here? I remember you saying Oklahoma

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Speaker 2: was going to absolutely dog walk them.

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Speaker 4: I remember you said, you don't remember right, You don't

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Speaker 4: remember right, you don't remember right, because I never said

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Speaker 4: any of those things, So I don't know what they

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Speaker 4: tell you.

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Speaker 2: It's uh, it's just interesting, Brian. I I look, Alabama's

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Speaker 2: a good football team. I've been saying it all season.

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Speaker 2: Do they have flaws? Yeah, yeah, they got flaws. Uh,

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Speaker 2: their run game is paltry this season. They they they

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Speaker 2: don't have the defense that we are typical typically used

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Speaker 2: to watching an Alabama team have. Now they have some

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Speaker 2: really significant players. You mentioned Matier was under pressure. He was,

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Speaker 2: and I mean credit to Bama for circling the wagons

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Speaker 2: in that game, fighting all the way back. When you

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Speaker 2: but you have to capitalize on those mistakes. And scoring

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Speaker 2: thirty four points against that Sooners defense, it is nothing

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Speaker 2: anybody should sit back and say, yeah, but the Sooners, man,

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Speaker 2: they really gave that game away. No, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: Alabama beat them. You don't score thirty four points.

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Speaker 4: They didn't score There's a six in there. There's a

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Speaker 4: pick six and there's a punt where the punter punt it.

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Speaker 2: Wait wait a second, when when when he when he

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Speaker 2: h when he threw that football? Which which team ran

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Speaker 2: that that that pick six? Backs? Was that Alabama?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah it was Alabama. They did score those points.

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Speaker 4: You're talking about Oklahoma's defense and then you're you're talking

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Speaker 4: about them scoring thirty four and I'm like, they didn't

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Speaker 4: score thirty four on Oklahoma's defense.

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Speaker 2: Let's just make that Let's make that clear. Okay, So

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Speaker 2: so we'll take six points off the board and said

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Speaker 2: they score twenty eight. They still beat them. Brian, So look,

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Speaker 2: I mean, my point is my point. Alabama's a good

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Speaker 2: football team. They're not frauds. It's a silly thing to say. Well, listen,

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Speaker 2: you could keep saying it didn't sound ridiculous, and I'm

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Speaker 2: fine with it. But but the the reality of this

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Speaker 2: situation is, this is now not only a playoff team,

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Speaker 2: but this is a playoff team who has one win

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Speaker 2: under their belt heading closer to a potential national championship.

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Speaker 3: Bin.

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Speaker 2: Now, do I think they're gonna win a national championship

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Speaker 2: this year? No, I don't. I think there are better

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Speaker 2: teams in this field. Last why not?

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Speaker 4: I mean, they're they're powerful, they're unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: I said Alabama's a good team. You're the one who's

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Speaker 2: calling them frauds. I think they're a good team. Do

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Speaker 2: I think they can win a national championship? And I've

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Speaker 2: been consistent with this. This doesn't look like a national

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Speaker 2: championship winning Alabama team. But I'm not gonna see here

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Speaker 2: and call them frauds, especially sitting waking up this morning

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Speaker 2: looking at the result of that game and saying to yourself, yeah,

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Speaker 2: fool's gold. I mean, it's like I said, it's fine

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Speaker 2: if you want to keep saying it. I would not

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Speaker 2: want my name attached to that.

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Speaker 3: I think he's just being stubborn because he doesn't want

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Speaker 3: to come off his take. I honestly think that's what

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Speaker 3: it has nothing.

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Speaker 2: To do with that.

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Speaker 4: You guys could not be more wrong about this.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean that's what it appears. Again. You have

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Speaker 3: two objects, and you could say whatever you want about

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Speaker 3: me being biased towards Alabama. I'm a gambler, I'm not like.

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Speaker 3: Let me set the record straight for our audience. I'm

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Speaker 3: not from Alabama. I'm not from the South. I didn't

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Speaker 3: go to the SEC. I'm a city slicker from New York.

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Speaker 3: I'm a Penn State kid. I have no affiliation Alabama

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Speaker 3: at all, and I've been pumping their tires all year

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Speaker 3: because when I watch Alabama, at least when I did

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Speaker 3: in October, Man, that ceiling was really high. I'm not

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Speaker 3: saying they showed you the full ceiling last night, but

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Speaker 3: you know how you win college football games. You win

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Speaker 3: the turnover battle and you win the explosive play battle.

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Speaker 3: Guess what Alabama won both last night plus eleven percent

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Speaker 3: explosive play rate in the net. They had multiple explosives.

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Speaker 2: Including one in the running game where they ripped off

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Speaker 2: like a thirty yard run and Daniel Hill Alabama can't

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Speaker 2: run it. He scrammed it right down Oklahoma's throat into

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Speaker 2: up ten in the red zone, tough yards right down

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Speaker 3: So you want to say they're a fraud, you want

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Speaker 3: to say this, They're not a fraud. They're a good

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Speaker 3: football team that has a very high ceiling. The floor

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Speaker 3: might be a little bit lower because they don't do

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Speaker 3: some of those little things that Brian wants to see.

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Speaker 3: But that ceiling. I don't think anyone's shown you a

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Speaker 3: bigger ceiling this year in October, and they gave you

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Speaker 3: glimpses of it last night. Now, it's ironic that both

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Speaker 3: of these games were mirror images of each other, the

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Speaker 3: one in November where Oklahoma won and the one last night,

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Speaker 3: right both of them involved a pick six for the

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Speaker 2: Both of them involved the missfield goal multiple misfield goals

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Speaker 2: for Oklahoma late. So I do agree that there were

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Speaker 2: moments in that game where Oklahoma beat themselves. But to

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Speaker 2: say Alabama's terrible, like that's just hater, aid Brian, Like, honestly,

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Speaker 2: like that, when did I say they were terrible?

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Speaker 3: You said they're fraud fools.

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Speaker 4: Goal you are literally what you're saying. That does not

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Speaker 4: mean they're terrible at all.

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Speaker 3: Then it's explain what that means.

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Speaker 2: Because to an average listener, when you say something like fraud,

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Speaker 2: obviously that's a pretty heavy word. So if you don't

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Speaker 2: mean terrible, then what do you mean.

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Speaker 4: Understand how you guys hear one thing and twist it

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Speaker 4: into another.

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Speaker 2: We're not twisting it.

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Speaker 4: You said they're a fraud, Brian, terrible There they are

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Speaker 4: frauds they are, so then.

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Speaker 3: How does that not mean terrible? Like honestly, like like

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Speaker 3: those are very synonymous words.

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Speaker 2: Did we lose? Brian?

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Speaker 3: I think I think he was so upset about Alma

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Speaker 3: himself offline here.

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Speaker 2: Look, you know, i I've I've played football in my

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Speaker 2: entire life. Uh, I've obviously we've all watched football our

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Speaker 2: those things where, yeah, you can smell a fraud. Trust me,

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Speaker 2: it's happened in in my time playing where you're you're

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, the first quarter kickoff, You're you're in,

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Speaker 2: You're in the game, and you can feel it. You're like, oh,

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Speaker 2: this team is not as good as as everybody was

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Speaker 2: gassing them up, including our coaches. Sometimes your coaches will

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Speaker 2: lie to you a little bit and they'll gass up

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Speaker 2: a team to make you feel like they are something

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Speaker 2: they're not, just to get sort of the juices going

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Speaker 2: there's other teams where they're kind of underrated. Now if

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Speaker 2: you want to use words like, hey, I think Alabama's

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Speaker 2: been a little puffed up all season long. Then again,

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Speaker 2: a little too much win in their sales from the

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Speaker 2: national media. I don't think they're as good as everybody

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Speaker 2: says they are. Hey, you know what, you might even

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Speaker 2: find agreement with me. We had a conversation similar to

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Speaker 2: this earlier in the season where Brian said that Ohio

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Speaker 2: State might be overrated, and I was like, yeah, you

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Speaker 2: know what they might be because based on strength of

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Speaker 2: and how they beat them. Yeah, I think I think

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Speaker 2: we can have that conversation, but to use and I

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Speaker 2: think this is where Jared and I get stuck, to

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Speaker 2: use the term frauds, to look at Alabama this season,

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Speaker 2: their entire resume, and then what they did last night

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Speaker 2: in their first playoff matchup, and to stick to that

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Speaker 2: feeling or to that suggestion that this team is fraudulent.

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Speaker 2: It is. It is. It's it's a hard bridge to

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Speaker 2: pass going from the side of hey, maybe Alabama's a

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Speaker 2: with complete frauds. I don't understand what everybody sees in them.

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Speaker 2: It's it's a cavern. And I don't know if you

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Speaker 2: can bridge that cavern. And I think, Brian, as as

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Speaker 2: you're back here with us, like I think that that

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Speaker 4: I can't try to listen, that's all they try to listen.

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Speaker 4: I said this the day of the first game against Oklahoma. Okay,

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Speaker 4: Twenty to seven right there, maybe twenty one to seven.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they already won a game in the playoff with

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Speaker 2: And Alabama doesn't miss a field goal in the game

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Speaker 3: It is slim margins. One play here, one play there

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Speaker 3: That that kid, that that receiver, I forget his name,

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Speaker 3: that See, that's the part of this that I don't

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Speaker 2: I'm not I know.

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Speaker 4: I know you turned into Cocaine Bear, like you turned

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Speaker 3: I'm not a Bama fan.

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Speaker 4: You sound like objectively, sound like you got tied across

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Speaker 2: I'm calling it objectively. I'm a gambler. I can't afford

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Speaker 2: I mean. Look, you, Jared, you make money off of

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Speaker 2: You're better. You've been in this game talking about teams

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Speaker 2: of football. Look, I respect your opinion. I respect Jared's opinion.

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Speaker 2: My opinion more closely aligns with Jared's. But I'm also

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Speaker 2: I'm encouraging you to view this through the lens. Yes,

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Speaker 2: the majority of the world finds her attractive, like Alabama

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Speaker 2: to sit here after watching what they did last night

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Speaker 2: Sidney Sweeney's cute, but she's got that weird freckle like

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Speaker 2: it's it's kind of odd, Brian. That's what we're pointing

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Speaker 2: Because it's a strong word to use for a team

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Speaker 2: that not only had the credentially and the resume to

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Speaker 2: They scored enough points offensively, by the way, take the

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Speaker 2: So I give a tremendous amount of credit to Alabama.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what you guys are watching, really, I

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Speaker 4: it is just flat out wrong.

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Speaker 2: Like you can give them credit and.

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Speaker 4: You can focus more on what they did instead of

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Speaker 2: That's fine.

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Speaker 4: But to say they played mistake free football as a joke,

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Speaker 4: like they're losing credible.

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Speaker 4: They they're getting out gained one eighty one to twelve.

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Speaker 2: Homa was playing better in the first quarter, and then

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Speaker 3: That's adjustments get made.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Brian, when I say mistake free football, I'm not

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Speaker 2: saying like, yeah, they got beat on some plays, and

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Speaker 3: Those are the mistakes that Alabama pitn't make.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's look again, Brian, you are entitled to

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Speaker 2: Ah, It's just beautiful. It's beautiful in Alabama this time

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Speaker 2: of year. It's better if you're a tied fan. Of course,

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Speaker 2: after last night's come back victory over that Oklahoma Sooners

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Speaker 2: who again? You know, if we're gonna put opinions aside

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Speaker 2: in the game, Boomer Sooner or even Tied for that matter,

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Speaker 2: that was an emotional rollercoaster. But I've got no ties

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Speaker 3: And I was on Oklahoma last night. Like again, I

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Speaker 3: And when you watch that game, like objectively, it looked

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Speaker 3: When they do run a lot of zone and a

435
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Speaker 3: lot of like you know, they drop, but they got dudes, man,

436
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,360
Speaker 3: Like they had thirteen five stars on the two DP.

437
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 3: They have players up and down that defense, and last night,

438
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Speaker 3: in big moments, they made big plays and they they

439
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 3: had sacks, they were able to drop and prevent any

440
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 3: big plays, you know, explosive plays. I think there was

441
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Speaker 3: the one fourth down play where Oklahoma got a little

442
00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,400
Speaker 3: bit loose in the secondary. There for the most part,

443
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Speaker 3: secondary really well and in the second half, the offensive line,

444
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 3: which had been terrible protecting ty Simpson all year, kept

445
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 3: him clean and he was able to look down the

446
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 3: field and find some just incredible plays down the field

447
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 3: to his receivers. It was really, honestly the Bama receivers

448
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,880
Speaker 3: and the ability to protect ty Simpson and to find

449
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 3: those receivers I thought was the difference in the game

450
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Speaker 3: in the second half.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh, it's really impressive what Bama was able

452
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Speaker 2: to do. And hey, you know, before we uh we

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Speaker 2: welcome back, Brian, I just wanted to to uh to

454
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Speaker 2: to ask you, Jared, if you uh, if you saw

455
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Speaker 2: the the knockout last night, if you had any time

456
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 2: to flip over, No, you didn't see Jake Paul go

457
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Speaker 2: down to any see it, you know, man in that

458
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,199
Speaker 2: mode right now, Rich where if it's not football, like

459
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Speaker 2: even basketball, Like I don't even have time to watch

460
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 2: college basketball right now, and you guys know how much

461
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 2: I love watching college troops.

462
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 3: I have no time, like for the next two hours,

463
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 3: I'm just locked in.

464
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, c IFP has taken over my timeline as well.

465
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 2: That and watching the end of the NFL regular season,

466
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Speaker 2: which we'll get to in just a little bit here

467
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Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio as we welcome back Brian. Know

468
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 2: the show is not complete without him. Brian, did you

469
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Speaker 2: have a chance to see the I mean, I'm sure

470
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Speaker 2: you saw the highlights, but the Jake Paul fight. Did

471
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,199
Speaker 2: you get to see any of that? No? I did not.

472
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Speaker 2: I did.

473
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Speaker 4: I was watching Alabama benefit from Oklahoma shooting themselves in

474
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Speaker 4: the foot time and time again. But we want to

475
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Speaker 4: make it sound like they played mistake cree football, Like

476
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Speaker 4: what are we doing today?

477
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 2: It's unbelievable, But.

478
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Speaker 4: Like, like, here's the last thing I'll say, and we

479
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 4: can move it along, at least I will. I don't know,

480
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 4: you guys, can you know turn into orgasm boy? Like

481
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 4: Saturday Night Live about Alabama last night? That's fine. He

482
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 4: sounded like the committee over here, but like, listen, I

483
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,239
Speaker 4: don't want to make it sound like Bama didn't make

484
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,199
Speaker 4: any plays. Of course they made plays last night, but

485
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Speaker 4: what made a bigger impact was Oklahoma killing themselves time

486
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 4: and time again. Like Bernard the catch was unbelievable. Brooks

487
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 4: had a great game, had a touchdown, two touchdown grabs,

488
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 4: and the first one was really impactful because Bama was

489
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 4: stuck in the mud and they went forward on fourth

490
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 4: down and he made a nice catch and got into

491
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Speaker 4: the end zone. They had like three impactful runs in

492
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Speaker 4: the game, right you had Daniel Hill had the long run,

493
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 4: then he had the touchdown run which was right through

494
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Speaker 4: the teeth of the defense, key touchdown, and then you know,

495
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Speaker 4: Ty Simpson had a scramble. They made plays, They had

496
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Speaker 4: a good pass rush consistently on materia. I don't want

497
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Speaker 4: to make it sound like it was just Oklahoma, but

498
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 4: Oklahoma killing themselves had a bigger impact. When they miss

499
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 4: a punt and that it basically turns into a punt

500
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Speaker 4: that's blocked and they throw a pick six. There's nothing

501
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 4: Alabama did that was more impactful than that. So that's

502
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 4: where we have a disconnect where you guys want to

503
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,400
Speaker 4: make it sound like Bama played mistake.

504
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 2: Free football, which is crazy.

505
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Speaker 4: And what I'm saying is they capitalized on mistakes, but

506
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Speaker 4: Oklahoma's mistakes made a bigger impact than Alabama's playmaking ever

507
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 4: did in that game. I mean, if we see it differently,

508
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 4: that's fine, but that's what I'm saying the whole top.

509
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, we hear what you're saying. And and trust me,

510
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 2: you can you can tell us that we're both pumping

511
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 2: up Alabama more than we should if if that's the

512
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 2: way you feel about what we're saying about Bama today,

513
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 2: the same way, and again, I think the consensus opinion

514
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 2: would more align with what myself and Jatterer are saying,

515
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 2: which is great.

516
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Speaker 4: Alabama's really good football to the many. Great, That's what

517
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 4: I mean. That's why I think they're frauds. That's why

518
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Speaker 4: I think they're fools. Gold is because people look at

519
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 4: Bama and say, whoa, look at this team. Look out

520
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 4: right here, they're often running. It's like, no, they're not,

521
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Speaker 4: they're going. Now, what point a first round game?

522
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Speaker 3: At what point would you change?

523
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Speaker 2: Like? Is it that?

524
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Speaker 3: Do they have to win a national championship for you

525
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Speaker 3: to change his opinion?

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Speaker 2: That's a great question. Yeah, Brian. So, so you're telling

527
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Speaker 2: me for Alabama go to the championship game and lose

528
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Speaker 2: by field goal fools goal totals.

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Speaker 4: Go absolutely not. If they got past Indiana.

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Speaker 3: And book right here, they're winning that game.

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Speaker 2: Okay, good luck with that.

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Speaker 4: If they beat Alabama or they beat on top of

533
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Speaker 4: that a in Texas Tech or Oregon and made it

534
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:14,959
Speaker 4: to the title game and on top of that had

535
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 4: a good showing the title So so.

536
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Speaker 2: Not INDI so beating the number one seed, undefeated Indiana

537
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 2: Heisman Trophy winner is not enough in your mind to

538
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:22,360
Speaker 2: get out of the fools goal.

539
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 4: Well, it depends if Indiana pulls an Oklahoma or not.

540
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 4: You know, like, if they're just killing themselves time and time.

541
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Speaker 2: Again, I'm gonna be like ry. It almost feels at

542
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 2: this point like we're trying to save you from yourself.

543
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,919
Speaker 2: Like I mean, honestly, it's you. I appreciate it, I mean,

544
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 2: but I need but I mean, as as a buddy,

545
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 2: it's it's it's it's an odd it's an odd hill

546
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 2: to die on, because again it is, it is difficult.

547
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 2: It's a real hill.

548
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 4: I'm watching the games, I'm seeing their formula for success.

549
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 4: If you think like like, let's let's stop for a second.

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00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 2: Hang on, hang on, hand, let me just finish this point,

551
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 2: because I think you're really underrating something that happened last night,

552
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 2: and I think he gave Oklahoma a lot of flowers

553
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 2: for it in beating them earlier in the season, but

554
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 2: you're refusing to look at it through the other side

555
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,360
Speaker 2: of the lens. It is really difficult to play turnover

556
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 2: free football when you are down seventeen points and in

557
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 2: desperation trying to make something happen. I've been in those situations.

558
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 2: I know how it feels. Your quarterback gets a little frenetic,

559
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 2: your offensive play caller gets a little frenetic. All of

560
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 2: a sudden, you're playing out of character a lot to

561
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 2: do too much. The fact that Caitlin de Bor was

562
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 2: able to keep the composure of that team on the sideline,

563
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 2: the fact that those assistant coaches were able to keep

564
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 2: everybody away from the trap that most teams, great teams

565
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 2: can fall into where you try to do too much

566
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 2: and you just stick to the plan because you believe

567
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 2: in the plan, and you say, hey, little by little,

568
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,719
Speaker 2: we're still in this fight. We're gonna methodically undo this

569
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 2: team because they'll break under our will. And that's what

570
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 2: they did to Oklahoma, and that should not be underrated.

571
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Speaker 2: And that is not easy to do, and that is

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00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 2: something that only a good or dare I say a

573
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,479
Speaker 2: great team can do when you put the stakes as

574
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 2: high as you're playing for the remainder of your season.

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00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 2: There is no tomorrow for Oklahoma and Alabama last night

576
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 2: and staring down a seventeen point deficit early. A lot

577
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 2: of teams roll over, a lot of teams get desperate

578
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 2: and they turn the ball over. A lot of teams

579
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 2: make mistakes. Alabama didn't. So when I say they played

580
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 2: mistake free, I can back that up a lot better

581
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 2: than you can back up frauds because they did. That's

582
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 2: only way you should vive a deficit like that, and

583
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Speaker 2: you come back and win against a really good Oklahoma team.

584
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 2: So again, I'm not saying we can't be friends because

585
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 2: you have this terrible take. I'm just trying to help

586
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 2: you see it from the other side.

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00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 4: I don't need your help and I don't need you

588
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 4: talking down to me, like.

589
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Speaker 2: All right, well, this is Fox Sports Radio Countdown to Kickoff,

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00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 2: brought to you by bed m GM. Every time you

591
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 2: know we get into the thick of the conversation, we

592
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 2: keep having some technical difficulties and.

593
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 3: The universe telling Brian that this is not a take

594
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 3: that he should be putting on national radio.

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Speaker 2: I mean and again, yeah, truthfully, I know he's not

596
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Speaker 2: interested in help. And I'm saying it as a buddy

597
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 2: and more in jest, because Brian can believe whatever his

598
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 2: own opinion. He's a big boy, no doubt, he's a

599
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 2: big boy, and he can take it to the bank

600
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Speaker 2: if he wants. I don't know if you're gonna be

601
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 2: able to take a withdrawal with it, but you could

602
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Speaker 2: try to bring the slip to the window.

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Speaker 3: The interest rates are going to be pretty high on

604
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Speaker 3: this one, I think.

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Speaker 2: But uh, but but I digress. Hey, you know the

606
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Speaker 2: one thing I wanted to say about this, uh, this fight,

607
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 2: getting back to that for a moment before we transition,

608
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 2: because there's a there's a couple of college football playoff games,

609
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 2: Jared that I want your take on specifically because there's

610
00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 2: huge line movement, especially when you look at the totals. Yeah,

611
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 2: this Anthony Joshua Jake Paul fight thing, I think it

612
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 2: actually is a dangerous precedent. I was talking with our

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00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 2: elite engineer Chris Purfett about this right before we got

614
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Speaker 2: on air. And I think when you finally see Jake

615
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,719
Speaker 2: Paul feel ready enough to get in the ring with

616
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Speaker 2: a real boxer and feel what that feels like. Anthony,

617
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Speaker 2: Joshua looked like a killer playing with his food, and

618
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 2: Jake Paul looked like he was surviving six rounds before

619
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Speaker 2: he got knocked out. And I don't think Joshua ever

620
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 2: went for the kills, so to speak. I think he

621
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Speaker 2: boxed him. I think he boxed him respectfully, and I

622
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 2: don't think he was trying to hurt him, although you

623
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 2: did see it. Sometimes he would he would feel a

624
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 2: little pressure and and he would he would tattoo him

625
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 2: a little bit, almost like hey, buddy, if you want

626
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 2: to swing, I can really swing. And And it was

627
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 2: an interesting cat and mouse game that you're watching, because

628
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 2: it was very odd the entire time, who is the cat,

629
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 2: who is the mouse? And the reason why I say

630
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 2: it that's a dangerous precedent is because Jared, I mean,

631
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 2: you've watched a ton of boxing too, and I have

632
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 2: grown up enjoying this sport that is a sport where

633
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 2: people get killed in the ring. So if we start

634
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 2: allowing celebrities to sanction fights, and that's what Jake Paul is.

635
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 2: He's not a boxer. He's he's fought some retired fighters,

636
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 2: but he's not a boxer.

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00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 6: He's a boxer and a promoter, like both things in one.

638
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 6: He's set up this fight with the Florida Commission. Yeah,

639
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 6: it questions questions on why the Florida Commission even approved

640
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 6: this fight too.

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Speaker 2: It can be, yeah, Chris, thank you, Yeah, it can be.

642
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 2: It can be dangerous because if you start allowing some

643
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 2: of these things to take place, where's the line and

644
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 2: how slippery does it get and what are the potential ramifications?

645
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 2: I mean, people could get really hurt.

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Speaker 3: Well, boxing has a problem because they need stuff like

647
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 3: this to get people excited. That's the problem. Like Rich,

648
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 3: you were in town for the Tyson fight last year.

649
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 2: I remember we.

650
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Speaker 3: Had a blast watching that on the sportsbook floor and

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Speaker 3: it was a lot of fun. But then the fight

652
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 3: started and it was like, this isn't really interesting. And tonight,

653
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 3: or I guess last night, based off the highlights I'm watching,

654
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 3: was kind of the opposite where Jake just had no

655
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 3: real chance in this fight and it was just a

656
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 3: matter of time before he was gonna get knocked out.

657
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 3: And that's a problem when you have these polarities in

658
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Speaker 3: boxing where the promotion is more important than the actual

659
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 3: fight itself. Like the build up is so cool and

660
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Speaker 3: it's fun, and you get all these weird celebrities and

661
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Speaker 3: all this like cool stuff, and then the fight starts

662
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 3: and it's like, yeah, this isn't really that exciting. I

663
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 3: think boxing in general just has a big problem, and

664
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Speaker 3: I think a big issue is and again I'm not

665
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Speaker 3: a boxing expert. I'm kind of gleaning this from people

666
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Speaker 3: that I trust, But the way that the fights are

667
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 3: sanctioned and all of the different like divisions and all

668
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 3: of the different titles that they have, like it's just

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Speaker 3: too complicated and convoluted, and we need to kind of

670
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 3: simplify things and try to get back to a spot

671
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 3: where we can promote some stars and they become stars

672
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Speaker 3: and then they're great fighters. So I don't I'm not

673
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Speaker 3: a boxing promoter. I don't know what the answer is.

674
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Speaker 3: But when this is the most you know, talked about

675
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Speaker 3: fight of the year, and last year it was the

676
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Speaker 3: Tyson Paul fight, and then the fights happen and it's

677
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 3: just like, what are we doing here? Like that I

678
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:26,720
Speaker 3: think is the big issue with boxing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think that's a really really sharp look

680
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 2: at it too. I think it could be potentially dangerous

681
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,240
Speaker 2: and to your point, I think when you are trying

682
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 2: to sell something and it almost feels like Lucy with

683
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 2: the football, Charlie Brown keeps taking these big swings and

684
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 2: falling on his back, and that's what it feels like.

685
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 2: The entertainment value is it's like, oh my gosh, we're

686
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 2: actually going to see a fight, and then boom, we

687
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 2: get fooled again. It can be kind of demoralizing if

688
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 2: you are an actual actual fight fan. Hey again, wanted

689
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 2: to get to that line movement we've got. We've got

690
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 2: totals in the Miami Texas A and M game, the

691
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 2: James Madison Oregon game that have shifted mightily. What's your

692
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Speaker 2: view on this, Jared, what's happened here?

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Speaker 3: I think in general, you're just seeing a lot of

694
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Speaker 3: you know, sharp people come in and try to buy up,

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Speaker 3: and then usually what happens is after it hits a

696
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Speaker 3: certain point, you'll get them buying back down. Like, I

697
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 3: don't really see I haven't seen anything really sharp on

698
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 3: the totals. But again, I haven't looked at the totals

699
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Speaker 3: too heavily with these two games, but I haven't seen

700
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Speaker 3: anything really sharp on the totals. I did see some

701
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 3: sharp money on JAMU earlier this week, but it looks

702
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 3: like this morning that got up back to Oregon. So

703
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 3: you know, I think these are going to be pretty

704
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 3: The two later games are going to be pretty heavy spreads.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's uh, you know what, Let me

706
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Speaker 2: let me ask this question more widening the perspective to

707
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Speaker 2: talk about the games and talk about like what we're

708
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Speaker 2: going to see a game like Oregon JMU. You just

709
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 2: kind of pointed it out with the Anthony Joshua Jake

710
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 2: Paul fight. That sort of feels a little similar, like

711
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 2: what are we really doing there? I know it's a

712
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 2: college football playoff game and I should be excited for it,

713
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 2: and I'm buying the promotion I'm seeing some of the

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Speaker 2: early advertising for it. But do you think that game

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Speaker 2: goes any other way than Oregon absolutely taking James Madison

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Speaker 2: outside the woodshed and handling him.

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Speaker 3: I want to dive deep into it, but I think

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Speaker 2: Parlay platter incoming. Also two Lane on the road to

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Speaker 2: face Ole Miss in the next CFP action. So Ole Miss.

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Speaker 2: They're going into this one without a head coach, well

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Speaker 2: Kiffin that that spells disaster for certain teams, but it

752
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 2: really does sort of feel like a warm up game

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00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 2: for them. I'm having a hard time really getting fired

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00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 2: up for this one, Jared, Is there any way you

755
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 2: can convince me that this is going to be a

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Speaker 2: ball game.

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Speaker 3: I think the other one might be a little bit

758
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 3: more interesting to talk about. But let's platter this baby, huh.

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00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna put ole miss or too Lane in

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Speaker 3: the parlay Plotter today. I think there is a good

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Speaker 3: underdog selection for you though, and I actually think it's

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Speaker 3: this first game. So I'm gonna go with the Miami

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Speaker 3: Hurricanes first leg of the parlay Plotter today. And I'm

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Speaker 3: not just gonna go with the Miami Hurricane.

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Speaker 2: Go oh yeah, yeah yeah, Oh hang on, what do

766
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 2: we need to do an open first?

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Speaker 3: Let's do this.

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Speaker 1: Check this out, Arlay Ladder.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's just let's just roll right through this thing.

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00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 3: Miami on the money line, guys plus one thirty. So

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Speaker 3: I think this is a really even the match game.

772
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 3: I honestly do. I think home field matters. I don't

773
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 3: know how much it matters. I don't think it's three

774
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,919
Speaker 3: and a half points. That's kind of my point here.

775
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 3: I think it's like a one or two point home

776
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,399
Speaker 3: field advantage for Texas A and M And I think

777
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 3: the Miami offensive line, now, man, I don't trust Maria

778
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Speaker 3: crystal ball as far as I can.

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Speaker 2: Throw them, but I do think the Miami offensive line

780
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 2: is going to be very effective here. And I really

781
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,720
Speaker 2: think Carson Beck, with the experience of the moment, hopefully

782
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 2: can get some protection and hopefully can find his receivers

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Speaker 2: down the field. Malaca Toni is the difference maker in

784
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Speaker 2: this game. So let's put Miami on the money line

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00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 2: plus one thirty first leg of the parlay latter.

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Speaker 3: I'll give you two other FCS games today. There's two

787
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 3: really important CS semifinals today. We know the CFP, there's

788
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 3: three games on that side, but let's not sleep on

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Speaker 3: the FCS. One of the best stories of the FCS

790
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Speaker 3: playoffs so far has been Illinois State from normal Illinois

791
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Speaker 3: running through the FCS postseason. But I think they've got

792
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Speaker 3: a tough one today against Villanova, who is the better team.

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00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 3: But it's Villanova as the slight underog. So the market's

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Speaker 3: kind of telling me that Illinois State is the better team.

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Speaker 3: But when I think two teams are even the match

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Speaker 3: and I'm getting plus money, I'm gonna take Villanova. So

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Speaker 3: we'll put Villanova on the money line plus one oh five.

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Speaker 2: And in the final game, Montana Montana State the brawl

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Speaker 2: in the wild awesome game.

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Speaker 3: Montana State's got the better defense, they're the favorite. We'll

801
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Speaker 3: put them on the money line as well, minus two ten.

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Speaker 3: So we got Miami, Montana State and Villanova three team

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Speaker 2: Rich Nice coming up next. They're there, but do they

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Speaker 2: Jared our lead betting analyst. My name Rich Orenberger. Former

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Speaker 2: NFL veteran of six years. Brian know is gonna be

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Speaker 2: trying to convince the playoff committee to allow Oklahoma back

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Speaker 2: because it was unfair that Alabama won. So he's got

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Speaker 2: a long drive ahead of him to the headquarters over there,

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Speaker 2: but we'll have him back on the show shortly. Here. Okay,

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Speaker 2: we've got a big one coming up tonight, and but

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Speaker 2: before that, I just want to tease ahead. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: to have Seamus on. I'm sure he's gonna give us

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Speaker 2: some FCS action as well to take a look at.

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00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 2: And in the NFL, it was a far fall for

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Speaker 2: one of the teams who's really in contention to be

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Speaker 2: a Super Bowl champ. Was it fair though, We'll get

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Speaker 2: into that conversation. But jam you going to Oregon, head

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Speaker 2: into Eugene and to set this up, look, James Madison

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Speaker 2: University played one of the worst strength of schedules in

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Speaker 2: the country and they're in the postseason. James Madison played

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Speaker 2: nobody and they beat everybody by a million. Now Oregon,

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Speaker 2: on the other hand, Oregon had a tougher schedule. They

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00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 2: earned their way into the postseason. They had some injuries,

833
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 2: especially to their receiver core down the stretch of the season.

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Speaker 2: They fought tooth and nailed to get into this postseason.

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Speaker 2: So you know, they're not looking past JMU and I'm

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Speaker 2: sure ready to prove that they are something here in

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Speaker 2: this in this this playoff round. I don't really see

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Speaker 2: this going well for James Madison. But what what do

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Speaker 2: you think, Jared, If you're gonna convince me, if you can,

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Speaker 2: that this is gonna be any sort of a ballgame,

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Speaker 2: what would you say? Yeah, so, I I went back

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00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 2: this week and I watched the entire JMU offensive tape

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Speaker 2: against Louisville.

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Speaker 3: Why Louisville, it's the only power for a team they

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Speaker 3: played all year. It's the only team that has any

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00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 3: semblance of dudes up front that are gonna challenge the

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Speaker 3: JMU offense because, as Rich mentioned, the rest of the

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00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 3: schedule was a hot knife through butter. For example, the

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Speaker 3: Troy team that just got blasted the other night, that

850
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 3: game kind of was close against Jamie. Like Troy had

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Speaker 3: a couple moments in that game. Now, I know JMU

852
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 3: didn't end up winning. They didn't cover this bread though.

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Speaker 3: And when I watched JMU, I noticed two things. One,

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00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 3: they're a very aggressive team. For example, first play of

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Speaker 3: the game, you're at Louisville, you're a two touchdown underdog.

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Speaker 3: They run double pass and it was open right, you

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Speaker 3: throw back to the receiver on a backwards pass, and

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Speaker 3: then the receiver tried to throw an arrow route deep

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Speaker 3: down the field to another receiver and it was open

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Speaker 3: and he overthrew it incomplete pass. They ended up going three.

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Speaker 2: Now, so that to me is the vibe of the game, right,

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Speaker 2: Like JMU is not going to be afraid of the moment.

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00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 2: They are gonna come in and they are gonna empty

864
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 2: the tank. They're gonna empty the clip. They're probably gonna.

865
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 3: Run a lot of trick plays, a lot of gadgets

866
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 3: and gizmos and tinker bells and all kinds of bells

867
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 3: and whistles and stuff. The problem is if that doesn't work,

868
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 3: their base stuff is not good enough to beat Oregon.

869
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 3: It's a lot of Reid option, it's a lot of RPO,

870
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 3: it's a lot of counter and draw and like very

871
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 3: basic running plays. Their offensive line is not very big.

872
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 2: They don't have any huge alpha receivers on the outside

873
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 2: that are gonna go up like Alabama did last night.

874
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 3: Just make plays down the field. They need the creativity,

875
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 3: they need those unique styles that that you know, those

876
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 3: gadget plays to work, and they're gonna have to take

877
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 3: some risk. They're gonna have to go for it on

878
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 3: fourth down.

879
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 2: They did.

880
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 3: They went for it on fourth It was a close

881
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 3: game at Louisville in the first half. They were driving

882
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 3: for worth than one. I think it was like right

883
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 3: around midfield. They went for it, didn't get it, So

884
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 3: I there, there's going to have to be some moments

885
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 3: in the game where JMU is sticking their neck on

886
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 3: the line, and if it goes their way, well, then

887
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 3: they can cover a three touchdown spread, right, if they

888
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 3: pick up those plays, if they figure out a way

889
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 3: to get a trick play and score a touchdown on

890
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 3: some kind of throwback or some kind of weird gadget.

891
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 3: But then, Rich, there's the other side of the coin, right,

892
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 3: there's a risk, there's a reward if they don't make

893
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 3: those plays, if they flip the coin. Right, you're at

894
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 3: the craps table and you hit the point, do you

895
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,439
Speaker 3: press or do you pull your money back? Well, Bob

896
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 3: Chesney's gonna press, and if he goes seven out on

897
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 3: the next roll, well, then that's where Oregon can kind

898
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 3: of run away from them.

899
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I completely agree with that. I think I

900
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 2: think you are going to see bigger risks taken by

901
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 2: James Madison and Chesney, who obviously has borrowed a lot

902
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 2: of Signetti's script leftover from his era. JMU. I think

903
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 2: it's it's great. I think it's a it's a great

904
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 2: DNA code to have if you're a team like this,

905
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 2: because you need to be a gambler against power forwards.

906
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 2: You need to be a team that is willing to

907
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 2: fight over your weight class and fight a little dirty,

908
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 2: you know, pull out the exotics that you've been working

909
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 2: on at practice away from the light of day all

910
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 2: season while you've been trashing your conference and beating up

911
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 2: on non conference team. You've scheduled again against again, really

912
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 2: weak strength of schedule this year for JMU, and then

913
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 2: if you punch your ticket to the postseason, well, no

914
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 2: holds barred. Hey, let's let's eye gouch. You know what

915
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 2: I mean, let's throw let's throw somebody in an illegal

916
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 2: in illegal. You know I'm not I'm not saying literally

917
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 2: eye gouch. I'm saying empty the kitchen sink. In terms

918
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:50,760
Speaker 2: of of of the playbook, whatever's the best, whatever's the most,

919
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 2: do it now, because there is no tomorrow if you

920
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 2: don't beat the Ducks now. On the other side of this,

921
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 2: we were talking about Oregon being a little trodden with

922
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 2: some injuries. Uh, They're going to have a host of

923
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 2: new coordinators entering this game, entering the postseason, and it's

924
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 2: it's going to be an interesting look for the Oregon

925
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 2: the Oregon Ducks, But it does in many ways feel

926
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 2: like a little bit of those early season non conference

927
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 2: warm up games for Oregon heading into the postseason as

928
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 2: opposed to an actual postseason game. So I think the

929
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 2: risk for Oregon really falls into this one sentence. You've

930
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 2: got to be up for this one. You've got to

931
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 2: be up for this one. You cannot look past these guys.

932
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 2: And so it is Dan Lanning's job to make sure

933
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 2: that nobody in that room is underrating the Dukes, that

934
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,919
Speaker 2: everybody there is there for the same reason, which is, hey,

935
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 2: we win, we advance, we lose. We don't get it tomorrow.

936
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 2: We don't get a national championship trophy in our in

937
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 2: our in our case, in the lobby of our football facility.

938
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 2: And I know that seems ridiculous to say, because what

939
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 2: team wouldn't be up for a postseason game. I'm telling you,

940
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 2: psychology is weird. When you're on that playing field, psychology

941
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 2: is weird. And this team, James Madison, to their credit,

942
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 2: they can create chaos. If you watch their defense, undersized,

943
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 2: they're not going to even come close to the measurables

944
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 2: that you're going to see across the line from them.

945
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 2: On the Oregans offensive line. They're undersized, but they create chaos.

946
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 2: They're not going to stay in their gap. It's a

947
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 2: movement defense. They get a ton of tackles for loss,

948
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 2: they get a ton of pass breakups. Why, because they're

949
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:40,280
Speaker 2: getting into the backfield, they're pressuring quarterbacks, they're forcing quarterbacks

950
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 2: to throw early, and they're throwing into coverage and so

951
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 2: they've really reached some havoc on a lot of teams defensively.

952
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,399
Speaker 2: Will they be able to do it against Oregon that's

953
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 2: a huge question mark. Will they be able to sneak

954
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 2: by them for a couple of those big explosive plays

955
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,919
Speaker 2: like you were laying out, Jared. If they do, it'll

956
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 2: be a better ballgame, that's for sure. But can you

957
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,240
Speaker 2: do it for four quarters? That's the question.

958
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 3: I don't know if they can. I actually think the

959
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 3: like to me, the way this game script plays out

960
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 3: is JAMU pulls out their tricks. A couple of them

961
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 3: are treats, and they hit, but then eventually the hammer,

962
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 3: you know, will hit the nail over the course of

963
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 3: four quarters. So I think JMU first half to me,

964
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,760
Speaker 3: would be the better bet than the full game because

965
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 3: I do think over time that Oregon size will win out.

966
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 3: Let's get into the JAMU defense, because I do think

967
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 3: they've got some dudes Sire West and Xavier Holmes off

968
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 3: the edge of are playmakers. They are those are Those

969
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 3: are FBS high major caliber type playmakers that are probably

970
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 3: gonna hit the portal, are probably gonna, you know, be

971
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 3: in the mix to be an NFL player like those

972
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 3: are those are really good players off the edge. They've

973
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 3: got a middle linebacker their highest graded player actually per

974
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 3: Pro Football Focus, Trent Hendrick. And the linebacking level is

975
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 3: going to be huge for JMU in this game. Why

976
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 3: because Oregon loves to pull lineman counter and those second

977
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 3: level defenders have to be able to fit in the

978
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 3: run game. I think the one game Dante More struggled

979
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 3: this year it was the Indiana game where Oregon allowed

980
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,399
Speaker 3: a thirty six percent pressure right in that game, by

981
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 3: far their worst mark of the year, and JMU is

982
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 3: pretty good at creating pressure. Again. I know the schedule

983
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 3: hasn't been great, but they slowed Louisville down for a

984
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 3: big part of that game. And Louisvill's got some dudes, right,

985
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 3: Miller Moss good quarterback, You got the Bell Khet on

986
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 3: the outside. Louisvill's got some dudes, and I thought JMU

987
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 3: held their own defensively in that game. The problem was

988
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 3: they kept trying to run these you know, weird kookie

989
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 3: counterplays and they just it just didn't work, Like they

990
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 3: just they shot themselves in the foot because they just

991
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 3: didn't have enough manpower to consistently stack plays like they

992
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 3: needed to outwit and out create the Louisville defense. And

993
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 3: over time, Louisville has more players and the athleticism is

994
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 3: just gonna win out. Oregon's a very balanced team, and

995
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 3: that's the issue I see. You can't just try to

996
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 3: take away the run because Dante More can beat you

997
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 3: in multiple different ways with his arm. You can't try

998
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,839
Speaker 3: to just take away Dante More because Oregon's got three

999
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 3: great backs that all are really good in their own way,

1000
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 3: Winnington being the lead there. So I think there's this

1001
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 3: kind of push and pull when you're facing Oregon and

1002
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 3: you're trying to slow them down because their offensive line

1003
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 3: is thirty enough. They're not great, they're good. They're not

1004
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 3: elite by any stretch, but they're a good offensive line.

1005
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 3: But what makes Oregon dangerous is they can beat you

1006
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 3: in multiple ways. They've got speed on the outside, they

1007
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 3: can run quarterback, and they've got three really good backs.

1008
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 3: So it's you don't really know what to take away

1009
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 3: for Jmu's offense. Like Barnett the quarterback kind of won

1010
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 3: the job by default. Sluca came over, right, remember Sluka

1011
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 3: from UNLB last year. He came over. He knows Chesney

1012
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 3: from the Holy Cross days. But Sluka just doesn't have

1013
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 3: the ability to beat you with his arm. Barnett's a

1014
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 3: little bit more of a dual threat, and he's been

1015
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 3: hot down the stretch. I mean he's throwing it deep

1016
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,399
Speaker 3: down the field. He's a top fifteen a DOT, top

1017
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 3: fifteen passing touchdowns, top fifteen Pro Football Focus grade, top

1018
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 3: twenty turnof worthy play rate. So he's pushing the ball

1019
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 3: down the field vertically, not turning it over a whole lot.

1020
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 3: So I do like the numbers for Barnett, but again

1021
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 3: it's it's been against a pretty soft schedule. So what's

1022
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 3: gonna happen now on the road against a very good

1023
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 3: Orgon defense? And when I say very good Orgon defense,

1024
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 3: they love this front four Rich Alexander and Washington and Ujunga,

1025
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 3: Lay and Tuodi Like they don't need to commit extra

1026
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 3: bodies to the box in order to get pressure on you.

1027
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,720
Speaker 3: They're very comfortable rushing for dropping seven and it's gonna

1028
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 3: make it really tough for a JMU offense that doesn't

1029
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 3: have a lot of playmakers on the outside to find space.

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Speaker 7: time to four with a lot of people buying an

1073
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 7: extra half point there. So really the whole day is

1074
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 7: probably going to come down to Texas A and M covering.

1075
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 7: We're going to end up needing these big dogs to cover.

1076
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 7: I feel like we're gonna seeing a lot of teasers

1077
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 7: come in on Oregon and Ole mess But right now,

1078
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 7: the in terms of what the highest handle is going

1079
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 7: to be, and you know the large waves we've taken

1080
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 7: right now, A and M is the biggest need of

1081
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 7: the book so far.

1082
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 3: See that's interesting to me, Seamus, because when I look

1083
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 3: at bet MGM and actually, as I say that, you

1084
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 3: guys are just moving now. So you guys were at

1085
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 3: three and a half on A and M and Miami

1086
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 3: for pretty much the whole week. In fact, I did

1087
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 3: a video yesterday for Fox that given out Miami plus

1088
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 3: three and a half, and I was a little bit

1089
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 3: surprised that you hadn't moved on to the three yet

1090
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 3: because of what I believed there to be some pretty

1091
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 3: solid money coming in on Miami. In fact, I even

1092
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 3: see one of the other shops at two and a

1093
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 3: half on this game, which I think is a little

1094
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 3: bit low, but it like walk through the audience on

1095
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 3: that dynamic where you have the game kind of rotating

1096
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 3: around a key number of three, but a lot of

1097
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 3: the markets at three. You guys are at three and

1098
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 3: a half, and what does it take for you to

1099
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 3: get off of that key number and to go down to.

1100
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 7: Three done to the action that we take. You know,

1101
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 7: we have customers that we profile as you know, if

1102
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 7: they come in on a number, that's one where we're

1103
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:11,280
Speaker 7: definitely going to have to move here. So you obviously

1104
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 7: have a look at the industry and what the market

1105
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 7: has out there these high profile games. Most of the time,

1106
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 7: you know, you want to stay at least close to

1107
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 7: that number, but if your sharp clients aren't really telling

1108
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 7: you anything, you don't really move. But we've taken enough

1109
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 7: finally to move off that three and a half down

1110
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 7: to a flat three.

1111
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 2: Today, Seamus, we have obviously a major coaching change with

1112
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 2: Ole Miss. We have a couple of different coaching changes

1113
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 2: in the staff with Oregon. Do you do you feel

1114
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 2: like those are differences leading up to the game that

1115
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 2: will I don't know, impact the number or or even

1116
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 2: the bets that you're going to see or the action

1117
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,399
Speaker 2: that you're going to take, or has that all been

1118
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:01,320
Speaker 2: settled and you're not expecting anything made leading up to kickoff?

1119
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, we've had these lines up for close to

1120
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 7: a week now, so the numbers baked in. I think

1121
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 7: obviously Lane Giffen has some sort of value the power

1122
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 7: rating that you're probably seeing baked into that line. But

1123
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 7: then you have guys like Bio some Rall who he's

1124
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 7: still coaching the game, Chesse, he's still coaching for JMU today.

1125
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 7: Oregon obviously they lose some staff members, But the market's

1126
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 7: telling you how much these coaches are valuated right now.

1127
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 7: I think by the way it stands, and you've seen

1128
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 7: that Oregon line did go, it was open twenty one

1129
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 7: and a half and it has gone under that number

1130
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 7: of twenty one, So there is some sharp money coming

1131
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 7: in on JAMU at plus twenty one and a half.

1132
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 7: Will see how if it moves any further. I would

1133
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 7: be a little surprised if it does move anymore.

1134
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 4: Today though, Seamus, I see you guys have moved Indiana

1135
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 4: now up to a seven and a half point favorite.

1136
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,959
Speaker 4: It's almost as if people realize that Alabama's fools, gold

1137
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 4: and fraudulent. Where do you think the line goes by

1138
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 4: kick time? And what do you expect to happen in

1139
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 4: that game when it rolls around here?

1140
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 7: I think seven and a half is probably right. I

1141
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 7: had this personally line at seven, the open six and

1142
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 7: a half everywhere, but definitely some sharp money moving us

1143
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 7: through that number of seven up to seven and a half.

1144
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 7: I think I'd be a little surprised if this goes

1145
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 7: north of seven and a half. But it's the college

1146
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 7: football playoff. You know, there's a whole you know, another

1147
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 7: week and a half until that game kicks off, so

1148
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 7: anything could happen.

1149
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 3: Seamus, is there anything with this Oregon JAMU game that

1150
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 3: interests you?

1151
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 2: I mean, it feels kind of feels kind of one way,

1152
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 2: but maybe Jmu's got a rabbit in their hat the

1153
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 2: first half, Like that was the way I was leaning.

1154
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 2: Is maybe JAMU first half.

1155
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 3: I just don't know if they have the dudes to

1156
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 3: hang four quarters with this Ducks.

1157
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 7: Team, great minds, Jared, This is I was gonna wait

1158
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 7: to give this out to the end of the end

1159
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 7: of my spot, but jmu first half is what I

1160
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 7: like the most. I think they got a lot of

1161
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 7: athletes that people are kind of sleeping on. But I'm

1162
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 7: with you there, I just don't see it over the

1163
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 7: course of four quarters. Maybe that you cover twenty one

1164
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 7: and a half twenty and a half, but I feel

1165
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 7: a lot more comfortable taking the points on the first

1166
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 7: half spread with JMU.

1167
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 2: Me too. You know, I haven't looked at Seamus, I

1168
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 2: haven't looked at the futures for the National Championship in

1169
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 2: a little bit here, But what what kind of parody

1170
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 2: are we seeing?

1171
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 3: Is this?

1172
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 2: Does this feel like a little bit more of an

1173
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 2: even year than years past, because it definitely felt like

1174
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 2: ultimately we were heading towards known quantities in the very

1175
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 2: recent past, and this, this National Championship race feels a

1176
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 2: little bit more wide open.

1177
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 7: The odds would dictate that, you know, Ohio State is

1178
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 7: still the favorite at plus two twenty five with US

1179
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 7: with Indiana closely behind it plus three hundred, and then

1180
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 7: there's still two more teams that are single digit ods

1181
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 7: or three more teams sorry that are single digit ods. Personally,

1182
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 7: I still think this is a two horse race. I

1183
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 7: think it's going to be Indiana Ohio State in a rematch.

1184
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 7: That's just how I view the two teams compared to

1185
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 7: the rest of the field. But the odds to dictate.

1186
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 7: Maybe we do see, you know, maybe maybe an upset

1187
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 7: here or there going into the National Championship game.

1188
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 4: Okay, seame, it's it's same as shame of special time.

1189
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 4: I don't know if you know you gave away the

1190
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 4: goods that you have a like a backup shame of

1191
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 4: special I don't know.

1192
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 7: Cs semis, come on, I got I mean, we got

1193
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 7: a loaded day of sports here. We have two NFL games,

1194
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 7: we have the World Darts Championships, so now we have

1195
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 7: the Volleyball National Championship on tomorrow. We have the fcs semis.

1196
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 7: I mean, I'll rattle a few up. I like the

1197
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 7: under fifty three and a half in Montana, Montana State here.

1198
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 7: I think it's gonna be a low yeah, in a

1199
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 7: rivalry semi final game in cold weather up there. I

1200
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 7: like Riccardo Patreco in the semi in the World Darts

1201
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 7: championships going on that that's just happened in ten minutes.

1202
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 7: If you've never been on darts, take me later. It

1203
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 7: is the best sports to bet on that you haven't

1204
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 7: been on yet.

1205
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 4: I love when they're one eighty, you know, it's great.

1206
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 4: It's I don't know how you get three triple twenties

1207
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 4: in a row. They made it look so easy. That's insanity.

1208
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 7: But yeah, that's all I got today. And then JMU

1209
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 7: first half I think would be my favorite play on

1210
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 7: the board for the college playoffs today.

1211
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 3: I like it.

1212
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 4: All right, Well, good stuff Seamus, as always, Bud, enjoy

1213
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 4: the day and we'll catch you soon.

1214
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 7: Thanks guys enjoying the games, have a good one.

1215
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, same to you.

1216
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 4: There is Seamus McGee, team lead of sports Trading at BETMGM.

1217
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:30,080
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1218
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:33,160
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1219
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:35,720
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1220
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 4: parlay boost tokens, and so much more. All Right, you know,

1221
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 4: we've been hot and heavy on college football and there's

1222
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 4: plenty more to come with three playoff games today.

1223
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 2: But for a minute.

1224
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 4: I just had to say, it's crazy what happened in

1225
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 4: the Thursday night game in the NFL. What an insane

1226
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 4: game with the Seahawks coming back down by sixteen and

1227
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 4: somehow rally they get a hunt return for a touchdown.

1228
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 4: They score another touchdown, they get a pair of two

1229
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 4: point conversions.

1230
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 2: The latter one was like if that's.

1231
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 4: In a movie, you walk out of the movie and

1232
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 4: you're like, this is the dumbest movie ever.

1233
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 2: I bounces off a Rams helmet like it goes in

1234
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 2: the end zone.

1235
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 4: Charbonay just picks it up for the heck of it,

1236
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 4: and they're like, it's two points. I know it goes

1237
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 4: to overtime. You know, Puka Nakua scores two hundred and

1238
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 4: twenty five yards receiving. It was unbelievable. The Seahawks score

1239
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 4: a touchdown, they go for two and get it. Unbelievable game.

1240
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 4: But look, man, I know we've locked horns on this,

1241
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 4: but I'm more dug on this, dug in on this

1242
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 4: than ever before. It is a football crime that the

1243
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 4: Rams have fallen somehow from the one seed to a

1244
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 4: five seed as we speak right now. They go from

1245
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 4: not only being on the road in the first week

1246
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 4: of the of the playoffs, they would be on the road,

1247
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 4: most likely for three games. So they went from the

1248
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 4: one one seed two home games to get to the

1249
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 4: super Bowl to the five seed three road games to

1250
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 4: get to the super Bowl. I can't hate the playoff

1251
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 4: structure of the NFL more than I do. It makes

1252
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 4: absolutely no sense.

1253
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 2: Oh no, I completely disagree, because I think there's magic

1254
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 2: in the fact that with only thirty two teams, usually

1255
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 2: you can make an argument, like a solid argument, for

1256
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 2: about seven of them that have a legitimate shot. Yeah,

1257
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 2: seven to eight that have a legitimate shot to win

1258
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl. You know, it's weirdly shaped football. It

1259
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 2: bounces all sorts of directions and we see it all

1260
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 2: the time. I mean, take it to the bank. We

1261
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 2: got a double digit favorite hosting on Thursday night after

1262
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 2: a real slugfest for the visiting dog, and somehow the

1263
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 2: visiting dog pulls it out Like it's the NFL. All

1264
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 2: these teams are good. It's a weird league in that

1265
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 2: there's so much parody, whereas usually if you're watching the NBA,

1266
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 2: if you're watching Major League Baseball, and that can be

1267
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 2: a little chaotic, but certainly the NBA, it feels like

1268
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 2: some outcomes you can really predetermine. With the NFL you can't.

1269
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 2: And so giving a team a shot to potentially host

1270
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 2: a better team during the postseason I think creates more drama.

1271
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 2: Now do I think it's fair? No? No, I don't,

1272
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 2: And I think that's where a lot of people, like you, Brian,

1273
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 2: like the sticking point is fairness, Like, is this really

1274
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 2: the best way to do this? It may not be,

1275
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 2: but it definitely makes for some seriously compelling storylines down

1276
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 2: the stretch of a season because you can have a

1277
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 2: team like, for example, the New York Giants team who

1278
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 2: ended up beating my Patriots team that I was on

1279
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 2: in twenty eleven, the twenty eleven season, the twenty twelve

1280
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:01,919
Speaker 2: Super Bowl out in Indianapolis, where they basically snuck into

1281
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 2: the postseason and they ran the table. You know, it

1282
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 2: just makes room for those storylines. And well, I absolutely

1283
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 2: still to this day, I'm disgusted that we lost that

1284
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 2: Super Bowl and I wish we didn't. It makes for

1285
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 2: compelling television, and after all, that's what the NFL is.

1286
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 2: They are trying to make the best television product on

1287
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 2: the planet, and they've really succeeded that in the United States.

1288
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm kind of in the middle here, Like I

1289
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 3: do think there's a reason for the team's get like

1290
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 3: the point about the playoffs and the way that it's structured,

1291
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 3: Like I think you have to give some reward to

1292
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 3: winning your division. I don't think you should get reward

1293
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 3: for the whole postseason. I think they should recede after

1294
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 3: the first round. To me, that's the compromise because I

1295
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 3: do think you should get some reward for winning your division.

1296
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 3: And it is very random every year which is the

1297
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 3: good division? Last year it was the North NFC North,

1298
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 3: this year it's the West. Like it this next year

1299
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 3: could be a different division. So I don't think it's

1300
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 3: always like if you win your division, should get no reward.

1301
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:04,919
Speaker 3: Like I think there should be some reward for winning

1302
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 3: your division. I think the compromises you get one home

1303
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 3: game in the playoff, and then we receed after the

1304
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 3: next round, and then we receed after the next round,

1305
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 3: and then that's how the home team is determined going forward.

1306
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 3: The other argument is home field isn't worth as much

1307
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 3: as it was twenty years ago. It's just not like

1308
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 3: that's what the data says. So it's not as big

1309
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 3: of a deal as it maybe it was twenty years ago.

1310
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 3: It's a little bit less. I still think it is

1311
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 3: important to get a home game, no doubt. I'd rather

1312
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 3: have the home game than not. But I also think

1313
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 3: you should get some reward for winning your division. I

1314
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:36,919
Speaker 3: do think that, to me is also fair.

1315
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 4: I think the reward for winning your division is you're

1316
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 4: guaranteed a playoff spot, you know, Like I don't think

1317
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 4: you get a home game on top of that, Like

1318
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 4: the winner of the NFC South, they probably wouldn't be

1319
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:51,440
Speaker 4: a playoff team, you know, except for winning their division.

1320
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:54,440
Speaker 4: So that's the cherry that you gets, Like, hey, you

1321
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 4: won your division, You're a playoff team, no questions asked.

1322
01:06:57,720 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 4: But you don't get a home game on top of that.

1323
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 4: World is Tampa Bay is right now leading the NFC South.

1324
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 4: We'll see if they win it or not. But in

1325
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 4: no world is Tampa's season better than the Rams season.

1326
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 2: No.

1327
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 4: And I know Tampa is leading their division right now.

1328
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 4: Let's say they go on to win their division. Even

1329
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 4: if they win their division and the Rams are a

1330
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 4: wild card team, in no world is Tampa season better than.

1331
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 2: The re Not even close.

1332
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:26,919
Speaker 4: No, I agree with that, like, it makes no sense

1333
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 4: to act as if it is. I go back to

1334
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 4: college football, because college had a similar system to what

1335
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 4: the NFL currently has, where last year they're like, hey,

1336
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 4: if you win your conference, then you get a bye.

1337
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 4: Basically we're seeding the the top four conference winners and

1338
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 4: you get a bye. It took them one year to

1339
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 4: be like, this is stupid. We're changing all of that

1340
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 4: because they had Arizona State and Boise State get buys

1341
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 4: last year and they've completely changed it. Like right now,

1342
01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 4: Tampa getting a bye. That's like Arizona State a Boise

1343
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 4: State last year getting a first round by and yet

1344
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 4: the NFL they still stick with this. It makes absolutely

1345
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 4: no sense. And yeah, I know home field doesn't mean

1346
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 4: as much as it once did. We're talking about half

1347
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 4: a point or a point.

1348
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, there is a.

1349
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 4: Gigantic, like Grand Canyon size difference between the Rams hosting

1350
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:22,719
Speaker 4: two playoff games and being on the road for three

1351
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 4: playoff games. That should not be the system that we have.

1352
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 2: It's so dumb. I agree that it is not fair.

1353
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 2: I can't. I can't defend that it's dumb because it works,

1354
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 2: and the reason why it works is because there's so

1355
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 2: much parody in the NFL, and because their ratings and

1356
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 2: their viewership isn't harmed by this playoff system. In fact,

1357
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 2: you can make the argument that it helps their viewings

1358
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 2: and their ratings because you can make that Tampa Bay

1359
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 2: fan base, or you know, in the case that I

1360
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 2: was making from many years ago, that New York fan

1361
01:08:57,360 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 2: base for the Giants who were NFC East winners, sneaking

1362
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 2: into the postseason, finding their way through a gauntlet to

1363
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 2: winning a Super Bowl. It creates these compelling storylines, and

1364
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 2: it includes fan bases that otherwise would not be invested

1365
01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 2: in the postseason. And sometimes those fan bases come from

1366
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:21,760
Speaker 2: major markets. Now is it fair? Now, that's where we

1367
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 2: could get into the debate where or I should say,

1368
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 2: where we can get to the side of the fence

1369
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 2: where I'll completely agree with you. In no world is

1370
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay a better team or more deserving than the

1371
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:38,599
Speaker 2: Rams based on record and achievement this season. They don't

1372
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 2: hold a candle to what the Los Angeles Rams are

1373
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 2: or what they've done. But just in terms of is

1374
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:49,720
Speaker 2: the mousetrap working, like, are people interested in seeing the

1375
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 2: results of these divisional battles benefiting for the most part. Yeah,

1376
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 2: say they are. And the reason why college football changed

1377
01:09:57,320 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 2: is because there isn't as much parody. ASU and Boise

1378
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 2: State last year, in no way, shape or form deserved

1379
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:07,760
Speaker 2: to get a bye because they weren't even in the conversation,

1380
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:10,680
Speaker 2: to be good enough to hang with the rest of

1381
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:13,559
Speaker 2: the playoff field. They just weren't. I mean, now, Ace,

1382
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 2: you put up a hell of a fight, there's no

1383
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:17,600
Speaker 2: question about that. But I mean they weren't winning a

1384
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 2: national championship, whereas you know, I had to say it.

1385
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 2: If it comes together late for Tampa Bay, and again

1386
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 2: we've seen this happen many times. Can they win a

1387
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:30,599
Speaker 2: Super Bowl? I'm not ruling them out completely. I mean,

1388
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 2: is it likely? No, obviously not. Would it be fair

1389
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 2: also no, and that's where I agree with you. But

1390
01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 2: does it work? Yeah? Yeah, I mean unfortunately for anybody

1391
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 2: who hates this system, it really does work. Yeah.

1392
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 3: I agree that it's not fair. I mean, again, there's

1393
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 3: no debate about the RAM season compared to the Bucks season.

1394
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:55,600
Speaker 3: I just think we're on a cruise ship. It's just

1395
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 3: really hard to turn and it's just you're not gonna

1396
01:10:58,479 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 3: get those rules changed anytime soon.

1397
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:01,840
Speaker 2: So we can you know, be.

1398
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:04,680
Speaker 3: Upset about it, or we can just kind of make

1399
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 3: money off of it, right, Like, the Rams are going

1400
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:08,560
Speaker 3: to be a road favorite at Tampa if if that

1401
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 3: is the game, if we do get four or five

1402
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 3: and it's Rams at Tampa, you'll get the Rams as

1403
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 3: a road favorite in that game, and then you'll get

1404
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 3: the chance to say, hey, listen, they're much better than Tampa,

1405
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 3: and that's why they're a road favorite. So I'm gonna

1406
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 3: bet the Rams. That's why the points spread is the

1407
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 3: great equalizer. I don't know if that rule will ever

1408
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 3: be changed because of just how stubborn the NFL is,

1409
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 3: and also you get these division you know, championship banners

1410
01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 3: that get raised, and it's like a whole thing. I

1411
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 3: do think you should get something for winning your division.

1412
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:40,760
Speaker 3: I see Brian's point about you're in the playoffs and

1413
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 3: that matters, but also how often is there that big

1414
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 3: of a gap? Like I feel like for the most part,

1415
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 3: they're within a game or two of each other, and

1416
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, it's just you know, they're they're really close,

1417
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 3: but you give the division win and you get that

1418
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 3: one home game. If I could change the rule, I

1419
01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 3: would reced after the first round, and I know that's

1420
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 3: been talked about. We just haven't gotten there.

1421
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's happened before or many times where we're talking

1422
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:09,800
Speaker 4: like a four win difference, you know where. The first

1423
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:12,680
Speaker 4: thing that comes to my mind is the Saints, Right,

1424
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 4: the Saints on the road at Seattle. I think Seattle

1425
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 4: had a losing record at the time, and that was

1426
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:19,920
Speaker 4: the beast Quake run. Right, that's when Marshawn Lynch had

1427
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 4: that insane run, like it's registering on the Richter scale

1428
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 4: there in Seattle, and the Seahawks beat the Saints, which

1429
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 4: I again like I'm not like, I don't know how

1430
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:35,600
Speaker 4: to say this, where people just they immediately put up

1431
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:39,599
Speaker 4: their defenses, you know where It's like, I'm not trying

1432
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:42,000
Speaker 4: to shed tears for the Saints. It's like, win the game,

1433
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 4: find a way to beat a team with a losing record.

1434
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:46,960
Speaker 4: But I will tell you that game had no business

1435
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 4: being played in Seattle when the Saints have four more wins.

1436
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 4: And you know as well as I do, if that

1437
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:55,799
Speaker 4: game is in New Orleans with Drew Brees and who'd

1438
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 4: ad at that time, there's no way a losing record

1439
01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:01,519
Speaker 4: Seattle team is going in there and winning that game

1440
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 4: no chance, know how.

1441
01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 2: And that's what I think is broken about this.

1442
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 4: But I mean, if you just do the math, it's

1443
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 4: it's surprising to me that, you know, like last year

1444
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 4: the Lions the Vikings were on the short end of

1445
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 4: the stick, right, they didn't win their Week eighteen game

1446
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 4: against the Lions, and they dropped to a five seed,

1447
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:21,600
Speaker 4: and they were on the road. It turned out to

1448
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:24,439
Speaker 4: be a neutral site game because of the fires in

1449
01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:28,200
Speaker 4: Los Angeles, so but in my mind, that game should

1450
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 4: have been in Minneapolis. I'm just surprised that the teams

1451
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 4: that end up as a five seed that have a

1452
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 4: much better record than the four seed, I'm surprised over

1453
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:41,200
Speaker 4: the course of time there isn't more momentum and more

1454
01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:43,040
Speaker 4: of a ground swell to like, let's change this.

1455
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:43,760
Speaker 2: This is dumb.

1456
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 4: So if you just do the math each year, you know,

1457
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 4: you're looking at Tampa, they're like, this rule is cool

1458
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 4: with us. Like the winner of the AFC North Baltimore

1459
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:55,720
Speaker 4: of the Steelers, They're like, this rule is fine for us, Right,

1460
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 4: So I guess more teams are benefiting from it on

1461
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:01,719
Speaker 4: a yearly basis, and that's why it's not gonna change.

1462
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 2: I think it's so dumb, but it's not changing it.

1463
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 2: It isn't gonna change. And I and I again, your

1464
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:11,800
Speaker 2: point is one hundred percent defensible, and a lot of

1465
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:15,040
Speaker 2: people agree that it is far too rewarding of a

1466
01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:20,599
Speaker 2: system for underwhelming division winners than for a team that actually,

1467
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:23,839
Speaker 2: you know, just because they play in a more competitive division,

1468
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:27,240
Speaker 2: they're going to be penalized, like just because you share

1469
01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 2: a division with the forty nine ers and the Seahawks,

1470
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 2: like the Rams should be punished somehow. It's like, no, no,

1471
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 2: it's a very good football team, so there may be

1472
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:38,200
Speaker 2: a happy medium struck at some point. But you know,

1473
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 2: just to refute one point you made, you know, could

1474
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:46,600
Speaker 2: Seattle win in New Orleans in a packed Superdome with

1475
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 2: Drew Brees and that team, Well, the reality is yeah,

1476
01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:53,479
Speaker 2: they could because they beat him in Seattle, and if

1477
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:54,960
Speaker 2: you can beat them at home, you can beat him

1478
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 2: on the road. Is it harder though? That answer is

1479
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:02,439
Speaker 2: also yes, And that's where the rub is that I

1480
01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 2: do believe, especially in the postseason with a fired up

1481
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:08,800
Speaker 2: fan base, it is a lot harder to win on

1482
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 2: the road in the postseason than it is to win

1483
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:16,559
Speaker 2: at home and so giving such an advantage to division

1484
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:21,839
Speaker 2: winners really does feel like you're not seeding this thing correctly.

1485
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 2: But again going back to where the NFL will defend

1486
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:29,479
Speaker 2: itself tooth and nail, they've got the best mouse trap.

1487
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:32,599
Speaker 2: They're catching all the mice. Their viewership has never been

1488
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 2: more powerful. So it's kind of one of those things

1489
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:37,320
Speaker 2: where if it ain't broke, don't fix it, and it

1490
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:38,080
Speaker 2: isn't broken.

1491
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:41,680
Speaker 4: You know what's crazy, I'll say super fast is I'm

1492
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:44,640
Speaker 4: just looking at the standings in the AFC, and right now,

1493
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 4: the Steelers they're the four seed, right eight and six,

1494
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:50,559
Speaker 4: and below them are the Chargers at ten and four

1495
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:53,160
Speaker 4: and the Bills at ten and four. You know what's

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Speaker 4: funny about that is typically in the NFL, the ultimate

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Speaker 4: tie breaker is head to head. Yeah, but the Chargers

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Speaker 4: crushed the steel on Sunday Night Football by fifteen points.

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Speaker 4: The Bills crushed the Steelers twenty six to seven. They

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Speaker 4: both have head to head wins. But if it just

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Speaker 4: like works out where it's Steelers four and either of

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01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:17,759
Speaker 4: those teams Chargers Bills five, it's like, well, the Steelers

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01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:21,280
Speaker 4: won their crappy division, so they get the higher seed,

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01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 4: they get the home game. Meanwhile, you crushed them head

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Speaker 4: on the road. That makes absolutely zero sense, but that's

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Speaker 1: Prop it up player plays all.

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Speaker 4: Right, prop bet scalore Jared. We start with you Nobama today,

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Speaker 2: Who do you like? Yeah, thanks for that.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go Gerard Pringle Junior over thirty nine and

1551
01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:51,720
Speaker 3: a half rushing yards. This is not Mark Fletcher, right,

1552
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 3: there's two backs on Miami. You don't know much about

1553
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 3: Pringle because he's kind of come on strong over the

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01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:58,840
Speaker 3: last month. He's a freshman, and I think this Miami

1555
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 3: team has continued to show that they can run the

1556
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 3: ball effectively. So I think Pringle, not Fletcher, is going

1557
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 3: to be the spark in the mini backfield today. So

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01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 3: give me Pringle, but you can't eat just one over

1559
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:10,160
Speaker 3: thirty nine and a half rush yeards.

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Speaker 2: Hey give me Jalen Hurts over one and a half

1561
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:19,600
Speaker 2: touchdown passes in this game against the Commanders. Later on

1562
01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:23,240
Speaker 2: switching speeds to the NFL here because we were just

1563
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:26,000
Speaker 2: talking about it. Look, I don't think the Eagles are

1564
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:28,680
Speaker 2: a great team, but I do think that they are

1565
01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:32,759
Speaker 2: competent team, and I think they're starting to find their stride.

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01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:36,280
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts is going to be, obviously the engine that

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01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 2: drives this team into the postseason. If they're planning on

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01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 2: having any postseason success, they need to get him right,

1569
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 2: and that's first and foremost, So I think that's going

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01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:49,479
Speaker 2: to be the effort today against a struggling Commanders team.

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01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:52,040
Speaker 2: So yeah, give me, give me Jalen Hurts over one

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01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:54,960
Speaker 2: and a half passing touchdowns today, all.

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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, that's funny. I had Pringle circled as well.

1574
01:19:57,720 --> 01:19:59,760
Speaker 4: That's still random. But he's up to forty one and

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01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:03,280
Speaker 4: ans half and he's averaging six point two yards per fairy.

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01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:05,519
Speaker 4: You know, he's giving them some juice. So I think

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01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:08,880
Speaker 4: he's gonna be their main guy today. I like over

1578
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:12,400
Speaker 4: forty one and a half. I'll switch over to the NFL,

1579
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:15,320
Speaker 4: so we're not duplicating our BIX here, juer, I'm gonna

1580
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 4: go with man. I still think this Bears rushing attack

1581
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:22,680
Speaker 4: is really good and the Packers rush defense been a

1582
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:25,640
Speaker 4: little bit leaky. But I'm not a believer in the

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01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:28,559
Speaker 4: Bears defense. They live on takeaways. I think I think

1584
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:30,400
Speaker 4: Jordan Love's gonna have a good game. Give me over

1585
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 4: two twenty nine and a half passing yards for Jay Love.

1586
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Speaker 2: Oh what is going on?

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Speaker 4: Happy Saturday to you as we get you set for

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Speaker 4: Texas A and M game, like I said, in about

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Speaker 4: fifteen minutes. But we got NFL on the docket here.

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Speaker 4: And how about this, This is most likely for the

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01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:24,479
Speaker 4: NFC North. We've got Packers at the Bears. Packers at

1603
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 4: nine to four and one, Bears at ten and four.

1604
01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 4: The Bears at home have a shot they win this game,

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01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:33,840
Speaker 4: the most likely win the North. Like the odds jump up,

1606
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 4: like I forget what they are. But somewhere in the

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01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:38,920
Speaker 4: neighborhood of if the Bears win this game, they have

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01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 4: like an eighty seven percent chance to win the North,

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01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:45,719
Speaker 4: and they have like a thirteen percent chance if they lose.

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01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:47,040
Speaker 2: Or something crazy like that.

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01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 4: And this isn't like the ESPN Playoff Predictor, where they're like, no,

1612
01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:53,760
Speaker 4: the name has an eighty five percent chance to make

1613
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:56,200
Speaker 4: it here on selection Sunday. And it's like, I don't

1614
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:58,200
Speaker 4: know how you come up with that. It's twelve random

1615
01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:00,920
Speaker 4: people in the in a room, you read their minds.

1616
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:04,120
Speaker 4: That's the dumbest thing ever the playoff predictor. But we

1617
01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:07,320
Speaker 4: look at Packers Bears. Bears now favored by a point

1618
01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:11,439
Speaker 4: total is forty five and a half. The injury woes

1619
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 4: man on both sides. How about Micah Parsons going down

1620
01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 4: torn acl If you look at the Bears, they don't

1621
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 4: have Roma Dune, say, they don't have Luther Burden, both

1622
01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:24,360
Speaker 4: two wide receivers. That's a lot of loss right there

1623
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:27,240
Speaker 4: for the Bears offense. So to me, the first part

1624
01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:30,479
Speaker 4: of this is how effective is that Bears running game?

1625
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:34,000
Speaker 4: Because they've there have been games where they've been lights out.

1626
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:37,320
Speaker 4: The Packers rush defense been a little bit leaky. So

1627
01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:39,640
Speaker 4: how well do the Bears run it? How well do

1628
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:42,680
Speaker 4: the Packers prevent the Bears from running it? I think

1629
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:46,479
Speaker 4: that's the first part of this whole handicap in my

1630
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 4: mind at least, Yeah.

1631
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:53,439
Speaker 2: I completely agree. I think also Packers being without Micah

1632
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 2: Parsons most importantly, but also they're missing a safety Evan

1633
01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:02,600
Speaker 2: Williams out of the lineup. They're going to struggle up

1634
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:04,439
Speaker 2: front a little bit and on the back end with

1635
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 2: those two missing key pieces, it's gonna be it's gonna

1636
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:11,559
Speaker 2: be an interesting game because these teams faced each other

1637
01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:14,840
Speaker 2: just a couple of weeks ago, and you think about

1638
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:17,560
Speaker 2: who their head coaches are and what their makeup is.

1639
01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:21,240
Speaker 2: The Packers obviously led by their offense. Matt Lafleur an

1640
01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 2: offensive minded coach, a genius if you will, And same

1641
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:27,760
Speaker 2: with Ben Johnson with the Chicago Bears, very much so

1642
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:31,839
Speaker 2: led by their offense, although they have a ballhawking defense

1643
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:36,640
Speaker 2: who's made their bones with takeaways. If that shrinks, if

1644
01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:39,679
Speaker 2: those numbers shrink for the Bears, they're in trouble because

1645
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:42,479
Speaker 2: they are a leaky defense. They just it's kind of

1646
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 2: feast their famine with them and they get their hands

1647
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:47,720
Speaker 2: on a lot of footballs, and so credit to them

1648
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:50,240
Speaker 2: for doing that. You know, you got to give credit

1649
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:53,760
Speaker 2: for defense for takeaways, but but it is it can

1650
01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:56,720
Speaker 2: be feast or famine for the Bears. Now, I do

1651
01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 2: agree with you. I think the run game that the

1652
01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:01,400
Speaker 2: Bears are able to stab is going to be a

1653
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:05,280
Speaker 2: big part of this. But I also think whichever team

1654
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 2: comes out with the best adjustments leftover from the last

1655
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:12,840
Speaker 2: game is going to be obviously the team with the

1656
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:16,439
Speaker 2: greatest level of success in division. The fact that you

1657
01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:19,840
Speaker 2: have to face these teams twice a season, it can

1658
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:21,800
Speaker 2: be a benefit to you or it can be a

1659
01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:25,280
Speaker 2: huge detraction. And so I'm very curious to see what

1660
01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:27,680
Speaker 2: the first quarter looks like. We're gonna We're gonna know

1661
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:30,840
Speaker 2: which team prepared for the right plan very early in

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01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:31,360
Speaker 2: this game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean these teams played very recently, and you know,

1664
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 3: the Packers won.

1665
01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 2: I think that the the line pushed. I think they

1666
01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:41,320
Speaker 2: were like right around a seven point favorite. He might

1667
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:43,040
Speaker 2: have gotten the six and a half and you covered,

1668
01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:44,479
Speaker 2: or if you you know, took six and a half

1669
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:46,639
Speaker 2: with Chicago, you were on the wrong side of the hook.

1670
01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:48,680
Speaker 3: But the game basically landed right on the number. The

1671
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:52,040
Speaker 3: total went over forty four, and now we're at forty five.

1672
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:56,639
Speaker 3: So flash forward, was it two weeks and the total's

1673
01:24:56,640 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 3: gone up a little bit? I don't really think a

1674
01:24:58,160 --> 01:25:01,799
Speaker 3: whole lot's changed in two weeks. Oh wait, it has because.

1675
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:02,880
Speaker 2: Michael Parson is out for the Earth.

1676
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Christian Watson's also questionable, and Zach Tom's also questionable.

1677
01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:10,280
Speaker 3: So yeah, a lot's changed in two weeks. And I

1678
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:14,040
Speaker 3: think that to me is where if the Packers defense

1679
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:17,760
Speaker 3: can't get pressure, it's gonna be a lot easier on

1680
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:20,479
Speaker 3: Caleb Williams. Now, we've talked a lot about Caleb Williams

1681
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:22,840
Speaker 3: throughout the course of the year and his inaccuracies, right

1682
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:25,800
Speaker 3: completion rate over expected, one of those analytics we like

1683
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:27,799
Speaker 3: to look at a lot. He's a bottom five quarterback

1684
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:30,320
Speaker 3: in that regard, and that's been the knock on him,

1685
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:31,960
Speaker 3: like can't play in structure and this and that.

1686
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:34,519
Speaker 2: And my pushback to that is.

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01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:37,560
Speaker 3: I think it's kind of a fagazy narrative because I

1688
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 3: think the way in the style that Chicago plays offense,

1689
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:43,720
Speaker 3: Ben Johnson likes to hunt explosives, Well, if you hunt explosives,

1690
01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:46,680
Speaker 3: you've got to give a little somewhere else. And I

1691
01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:50,320
Speaker 3: think Caleb sometimes makes the easy throws look difficult and

1692
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:52,679
Speaker 3: that's why his completion rate over expected is so low.

1693
01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:55,800
Speaker 3: But he also makes a lot of the difficult throws

1694
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:58,160
Speaker 3: look easy, and I think if you ask Ben Johnson,

1695
01:25:58,200 --> 01:26:00,559
Speaker 3: he's okay with that trade off, like it's a reward.

1696
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 3: If you want to hunt explosives, you're gonna you're not

1697
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:04,800
Speaker 3: gonna be accurate with all of them because it's a

1698
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:08,880
Speaker 3: they're tougher throws. So I actually think this Bears offense

1699
01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:12,639
Speaker 3: is where it's supposed to be, even though Caleb's numbers

1700
01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:16,600
Speaker 3: sometimes look a little bit inconsistent. And you get the

1701
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:19,000
Speaker 3: running game going and then you hunt those explosive off

1702
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:21,519
Speaker 3: play action and you might not complete all the passes,

1703
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:25,120
Speaker 3: but you're stretching the defense and you're threatening the defense,

1704
01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:27,160
Speaker 3: and I think that puts a lot of stress, especially

1705
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:29,320
Speaker 3: on a defense like green Bay that's banged up right

1706
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:31,880
Speaker 3: now in a short week. So I kind of lean

1707
01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:35,800
Speaker 3: Chicago here, but something about green Bay and Jordan Love

1708
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 3: going into Chicago, and I know it's not Aaron Rodgers,

1709
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:41,320
Speaker 3: but there's there's a there's a certain level of mental

1710
01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:44,439
Speaker 3: anguish that comes with this Bears team facing the Packers.

1711
01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:46,679
Speaker 3: So we'll see if they can finally get over that hump.

1712
01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:49,599
Speaker 3: But I do push back a lot on the criticism

1713
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:51,880
Speaker 3: that Caleb's gotten this year, Brian, because I do think

1714
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:54,439
Speaker 3: that is just the style of offense Ben Johnson prefers

1715
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:55,559
Speaker 3: to play now.

1716
01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:57,639
Speaker 4: I like how you put it makes a lot of sense.

1717
01:26:57,680 --> 01:27:01,120
Speaker 4: It's weird, right, Like Caleb Williams. If you're a basketball player,

1718
01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:05,040
Speaker 4: he'd be hitting Steph Curry threes high degree of difficulty

1719
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:07,120
Speaker 4: and you're like wow, and then he misses a four

1720
01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 4: foot bunny in the lane and you're like, how how

1721
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:12,240
Speaker 4: does that happen? How can you make those throws and

1722
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:15,479
Speaker 4: miss those throws? Like, I don't get it with Caleb,

1723
01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:18,040
Speaker 4: but you're right, like he's made some special plays. He's

1724
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 4: just got to do a better job with the layups,

1725
01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:23,040
Speaker 4: with the easy ones because he misses a lot of

1726
01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:26,880
Speaker 4: easy throws. But I hear you like, you'd probably take

1727
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:29,240
Speaker 4: that trade off as of right now, you're two and

1728
01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:31,720
Speaker 4: he's just hoping you tighten the screws and make the

1729
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:34,640
Speaker 4: easier plays, because man, sometimes those easy plays that are

1730
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:37,360
Speaker 4: missed will come back to bite you. They happen in

1731
01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:40,400
Speaker 4: the worst possible time. It's third and three, the guys

1732
01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:42,439
Speaker 4: wide open. Just get it to him, and he's like,

1733
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:44,360
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I hit the guy in the fifth row.

1734
01:27:44,640 --> 01:27:47,479
Speaker 2: My bad, Like, what how does that happen?

1735
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:50,880
Speaker 4: You just you basically did like a Kareem skyhook down

1736
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:54,160
Speaker 4: the field and somehow DeAndre Swift out of the backfield.

1737
01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:56,200
Speaker 4: How did you make that throw and then miss that?

1738
01:27:56,479 --> 01:27:57,080
Speaker 2: It's crazy.

1739
01:27:57,160 --> 01:28:01,120
Speaker 4: But the other thing, though, is, listen, we talk about

1740
01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:03,800
Speaker 4: the turnover battle all the time in football, and it

1741
01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:07,280
Speaker 4: kind of turns into white noise where it's just so obvious.

1742
01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:08,280
Speaker 2: Right, you're stating the.

1743
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 4: Obvious, Where, hey, the turnover battle is gonna be a

1744
01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:12,720
Speaker 4: big deal in this game, right, Like, I don't want

1745
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:15,839
Speaker 4: to do that, but it's so important. Against the Bears,

1746
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 4: their defense lives on takeaways. That's what fuels them because

1747
01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:23,439
Speaker 4: otherwise they give up a lot of yards. They give

1748
01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:27,200
Speaker 4: up the eighteenth most passing yards and they're twenty third

1749
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:30,600
Speaker 4: in rush defense. That's just way too low. If you

1750
01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:32,960
Speaker 4: look at the Packers, they're top ten in both. They're

1751
01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:36,120
Speaker 4: eighth against the pass, they're eighth against the rush. But

1752
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:39,360
Speaker 4: what's interesting about these two teams in terms of takeaways.

1753
01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:41,840
Speaker 4: The Bears are number one in the NFL. They forced

1754
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:45,320
Speaker 4: thirty takeaways. They take the ball away more than anybody

1755
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:50,160
Speaker 4: else does. The Packers they're tied for twenty fifth in takeaways.

1756
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:52,960
Speaker 4: They just don't generate a lot of takeaways with their defense,

1757
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:56,919
Speaker 4: So that is so important for the Packers. Just protect

1758
01:28:57,160 --> 01:29:00,400
Speaker 4: the football and eventually you're gonna make some plays against

1759
01:29:00,439 --> 01:29:02,759
Speaker 4: a leaky defense that gives up a lot of yards.

1760
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:04,960
Speaker 4: Just don't turn it over to them and you should

1761
01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:05,880
Speaker 4: be fine in this game.

1762
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:11,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it really is incumbent upon Green Bay to

1763
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:15,400
Speaker 2: be careful with the football. I mean, and there's there's

1764
01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:17,479
Speaker 2: a lot of different ways to do that. You can

1765
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:20,920
Speaker 2: do it obviously by wrapping things that practice. Hey, listen,

1766
01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:24,839
Speaker 2: every ball carrier, you gotta cover the points of the football.

1767
01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:27,160
Speaker 2: You got to close the gate, you gotta cover up

1768
01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:29,679
Speaker 2: when you're getting tackled. They're going to try to force

1769
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:32,640
Speaker 2: the football out of your hands when right before you

1770
01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:35,880
Speaker 2: hit the ground. So do not take this for granted.

1771
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:39,439
Speaker 2: It's super important coaching point. Hey, you know, when we're

1772
01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:43,040
Speaker 2: throwing the football, here's the deal, Like we're we're not

1773
01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:46,040
Speaker 2: going for the big play, We're going for the open play.

1774
01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:48,639
Speaker 2: Because these guys are waiting for us to make the mistake.

1775
01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:50,920
Speaker 2: They're going to flip the field on us. They're going

1776
01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:54,920
Speaker 2: to to try to change the motion in the in

1777
01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:58,640
Speaker 2: the stadium, and turnovers are great for that. They are

1778
01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:03,480
Speaker 2: bell weathers for success because they can really flip emotions

1779
01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:06,720
Speaker 2: in the building, not just on the field, but in

1780
01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:10,280
Speaker 2: the building too. So that has another aspect of it,

1781
01:30:10,600 --> 01:30:13,840
Speaker 2: and then another way. I mean, really and honestly, it's

1782
01:30:13,880 --> 01:30:16,400
Speaker 2: about everybody just doing their job. You know, you pointed

1783
01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:18,680
Speaker 2: something out that I think, you know, talking about the

1784
01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:22,080
Speaker 2: Chicago offense and focusing on Caleb Williams for a second.

1785
01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:25,840
Speaker 2: You know, your job as a quarterback is to get

1786
01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:28,639
Speaker 2: is to throw the football to get things organized, certainly,

1787
01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:31,120
Speaker 2: and I don't want to like minimize it because obviously

1788
01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:34,680
Speaker 2: it's the most important position in all of sports. But

1789
01:30:35,320 --> 01:30:37,599
Speaker 2: your job is to throw the football. And when you're

1790
01:30:37,640 --> 01:30:42,280
Speaker 2: expected to throw a three yard or even say fifteen

1791
01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:45,240
Speaker 2: yard swing pass, you know, either a yard behind air

1792
01:30:45,320 --> 01:30:47,639
Speaker 2: yard in front of the line of scrimmage, you better

1793
01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:50,840
Speaker 2: be able to connect right. And so the coaching point

1794
01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:56,280
Speaker 2: to love heading into this game against the Chicago Bears defense,

1795
01:30:56,320 --> 01:30:59,080
Speaker 2: which is prone to turning the ball over, you got

1796
01:30:59,200 --> 01:31:01,160
Speaker 2: to make sure that you can connect on those passes.

1797
01:31:01,280 --> 01:31:03,559
Speaker 2: It's the little things, you know. You throw a ball

1798
01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:06,280
Speaker 2: too high in traffic, it bounces off. If you're running

1799
01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:09,679
Speaker 2: back or receivers hands, it's the tip drill. Chicago comes

1800
01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:12,160
Speaker 2: up with a cheap one. All of a sudden, they're driving.

1801
01:31:12,439 --> 01:31:15,920
Speaker 2: You know, you're careless with the football in the grasp

1802
01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:18,920
Speaker 2: of the defenders. You get one tugged out of your hands.

1803
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:21,879
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, balls on the ground recovery Chicago.

1804
01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:26,240
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's it's not just a cheap talking point,

1805
01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:31,479
Speaker 2: it is everything. Possession of the football is everything in

1806
01:31:31,560 --> 01:31:35,679
Speaker 2: the NFL. These guys are too good. Every team, every

1807
01:31:35,720 --> 01:31:38,559
Speaker 2: single one of the thirty two teams playing, but especially

1808
01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:41,880
Speaker 2: teams with a real playoff chance like the Bears, like

1809
01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:45,839
Speaker 2: like the Packers. Green Bay's got to protect the football

1810
01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:48,080
Speaker 2: against this Bears defense or it'll be a long, hard day.

1811
01:31:48,840 --> 01:31:51,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think if you ask most most professional gamblers,

1812
01:31:51,240 --> 01:31:52,880
Speaker 3: which I'm not one, by the way, but if you

1813
01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:55,320
Speaker 3: ask most of them, they would tell you they want

1814
01:31:55,360 --> 01:31:57,640
Speaker 3: to fade the team that is leading the league in

1815
01:31:57,680 --> 01:32:00,400
Speaker 3: turnover margin in the playoffs. It's this is not a

1816
01:32:00,439 --> 01:32:05,080
Speaker 3: sustainable model if that is your recipe. To be fair, though,

1817
01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:08,400
Speaker 3: since losing to the Ravens in Week eight, Chicago's offense

1818
01:32:08,439 --> 01:32:09,479
Speaker 3: has come on really strong.

1819
01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:11,560
Speaker 2: They were twenty.

1820
01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:14,960
Speaker 3: First in rushing efficiency through those first eight weeks. Since

1821
01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:18,160
Speaker 3: then they're second. So they're running it at a really

1822
01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:23,160
Speaker 3: high rate, and that to me is sustainable because if

1823
01:32:23,160 --> 01:32:25,880
Speaker 3: you're running it well, it means your offensive line is

1824
01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:29,400
Speaker 3: blocking well, and if you're winning in the trenches, you're

1825
01:32:29,479 --> 01:32:32,080
Speaker 3: probably gonna win most games. I think the key for

1826
01:32:32,120 --> 01:32:33,760
Speaker 3: the Packers is, like, if you go back and watch

1827
01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:36,439
Speaker 3: the film from their game against the Broncos last week,

1828
01:32:37,040 --> 01:32:40,160
Speaker 3: when Watson left the game and all of a sudden,

1829
01:32:40,880 --> 01:32:44,760
Speaker 3: Denver zone defense became significantly more effective because when you

1830
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:47,240
Speaker 3: don't have someone who can take the top off, it

1831
01:32:47,439 --> 01:32:49,679
Speaker 3: just makes the stress level go down.

1832
01:32:50,160 --> 01:32:52,639
Speaker 2: So I don't know if Watson's going to play today.

1833
01:32:52,920 --> 01:32:55,400
Speaker 2: He's questionable, so is the right tackle Zach Tom. That

1834
01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:57,920
Speaker 2: was a really rough injury game for green Bay and

1835
01:32:58,000 --> 01:32:59,000
Speaker 2: now they've got a short week.

1836
01:32:59,080 --> 01:33:00,600
Speaker 3: I know it's not a really sor but it's a

1837
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:02,519
Speaker 3: day less than you normally would get and they're on

1838
01:33:02,560 --> 01:33:05,880
Speaker 3: the road, So this is a tough spot I think

1839
01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:09,400
Speaker 3: for green Bay today. Like my gut says, Chicago starts

1840
01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:12,040
Speaker 3: fast and then the game gets tight late and then

1841
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:14,320
Speaker 3: it'll be one of those plays, right, does Chicago get

1842
01:33:14,320 --> 01:33:17,360
Speaker 3: the key turnover. Can Jordan Love play clean football? They

1843
01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:20,639
Speaker 3: could not solve the Broncos zone last week. Fifty ninth

1844
01:33:20,680 --> 01:33:22,880
Speaker 3: percent tile EPA per drop back one out of four

1845
01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:24,400
Speaker 3: in the red zone, so they were able to move

1846
01:33:24,439 --> 01:33:27,000
Speaker 3: it between the twenties. But then once they got into

1847
01:33:27,080 --> 01:33:30,160
Speaker 3: the red zone, it was all field goals. And that's

1848
01:33:30,160 --> 01:33:32,720
Speaker 3: where Chicago's defense is gonna have to stiffen because I

1849
01:33:32,760 --> 01:33:34,640
Speaker 3: do think green Bay listen, green Bay's offense gon't move

1850
01:33:34,680 --> 01:33:36,519
Speaker 3: it today. I think Jordan Love, I think they're the first.

1851
01:33:36,600 --> 01:33:39,400
Speaker 3: I think their first and EPA per play on offense

1852
01:33:39,439 --> 01:33:41,760
Speaker 3: this year, even despite the fact that they got beat

1853
01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:44,080
Speaker 3: last week. I think they're gonna be able to run

1854
01:33:44,120 --> 01:33:46,240
Speaker 3: it well. That's something Chicago hasn't done well this year

1855
01:33:46,280 --> 01:33:49,280
Speaker 3: to defend the run. The question is when they get

1856
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:50,599
Speaker 3: in the red zone, if they don't have their big

1857
01:33:50,680 --> 01:33:52,719
Speaker 3: man Watson, can they figure out a way to finish

1858
01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:55,439
Speaker 3: these drives. And on the other side for Chicago, can

1859
01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:58,360
Speaker 3: they create that havoc play to flip the field and

1860
01:33:58,400 --> 01:34:00,960
Speaker 3: to flip the game, because I think if the turnover

1861
01:34:01,040 --> 01:34:03,360
Speaker 3: mark here's my prediction for the game. If the turnover

1862
01:34:03,439 --> 01:34:07,080
Speaker 3: margins even green Bay wins, if Chicago wins a turnover margin,

1863
01:34:07,120 --> 01:34:09,240
Speaker 3: they win. Like, I honestly think they have to win

1864
01:34:09,320 --> 01:34:11,840
Speaker 3: the turnover margin in order to win this game because

1865
01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:14,840
Speaker 3: their offense still relies on those big plays and if

1866
01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:17,640
Speaker 3: they don't get those, flip the field havoc plays on

1867
01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:21,240
Speaker 3: offense and on defense. They're not one of those offenses.

1868
01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:23,280
Speaker 3: I think that can sustain play after play.

1869
01:34:24,040 --> 01:34:27,519
Speaker 4: Okay, if we go just a minute for each of us, Okay,

1870
01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:30,880
Speaker 4: is of the essence. Okay, I'm just looking at the

1871
01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:35,639
Speaker 4: playoffs right now, like the standings. What's your super Bowl

1872
01:34:35,720 --> 01:34:38,080
Speaker 4: matchup today? If you had to come up with one

1873
01:34:38,160 --> 01:34:40,960
Speaker 4: Rams feeling at the AFC, and I'm like, I don't,

1874
01:34:41,520 --> 01:34:44,599
Speaker 4: I don't like anybody someone contractually has to come out

1875
01:34:44,600 --> 01:34:45,160
Speaker 4: of the AFC.

1876
01:34:45,920 --> 01:34:46,880
Speaker 2: Similar with the NFC.

1877
01:34:47,000 --> 01:34:49,559
Speaker 4: With the Rams dropping to a five seed right now,

1878
01:34:49,800 --> 01:34:52,559
Speaker 4: like maybe not being a one seed, not having home field,

1879
01:34:52,600 --> 01:34:54,680
Speaker 4: that's a big deal. Going from two home games to

1880
01:34:54,760 --> 01:34:57,800
Speaker 4: potentially three road games, that's a huge deal. So as

1881
01:34:57,880 --> 01:35:00,400
Speaker 4: of today, Rich, we'll start with you, what's your super

1882
01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:01,080
Speaker 4: Bowl matchup?

1883
01:35:01,200 --> 01:35:05,840
Speaker 2: Your best guess? Yeah, I mean, really quick, I could

1884
01:35:06,040 --> 01:35:08,960
Speaker 2: easily see it being Rams Bills. Jared. You jumped in

1885
01:35:09,040 --> 01:35:11,439
Speaker 2: there and you read my mind. I could also see

1886
01:35:11,439 --> 01:35:14,040
Speaker 2: another one of these NFC West teams, if they get

1887
01:35:14,160 --> 01:35:17,040
Speaker 2: hot and stay hot, appear in the Super Bowl. Maybe

1888
01:35:17,120 --> 01:35:20,600
Speaker 2: Seattle gets him with Donald, although Donald trunk in the

1889
01:35:20,640 --> 01:35:23,519
Speaker 2: postseason last year with Minnesota, so I'm not sure. I'm

1890
01:35:23,560 --> 01:35:26,200
Speaker 2: not sure. I'm not sure if he's there yet, We'll see.

1891
01:35:27,320 --> 01:35:30,680
Speaker 2: But I could also see this being chaotic. I mean

1892
01:35:30,840 --> 01:35:35,960
Speaker 2: Jacksonville Chicago. Yeah, I mean, you name it. No, I mean, like, honestly,

1893
01:35:36,479 --> 01:35:37,280
Speaker 2: if there's ever.

1894
01:35:37,280 --> 01:35:39,400
Speaker 3: Mamma's got a better chance to win the title than that.

1895
01:35:39,960 --> 01:35:43,280
Speaker 2: If there's ever been a season where chaos will rain,

1896
01:35:43,360 --> 01:35:46,040
Speaker 2: has there ever been more parody? It feels like one

1897
01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:47,160
Speaker 2: of those weird one offs.

1898
01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:50,439
Speaker 4: And I agree with aren't in there right, Yeah, there's

1899
01:35:50,479 --> 01:35:52,439
Speaker 4: no moment. It's the recipe for chaos.

1900
01:35:52,560 --> 01:35:54,640
Speaker 2: Sure, I'll give you my top five ratings. So I

1901
01:35:54,760 --> 01:35:56,639
Speaker 2: do Super Bowl Island every week on my podcast. I'll

1902
01:35:56,640 --> 01:35:58,240
Speaker 2: give you my top five of my ratings. Right now,

1903
01:35:58,360 --> 01:36:01,960
Speaker 2: it's rams Bill, Seahawks, Lions, Eagles. That's kind of the

1904
01:36:02,040 --> 01:36:04,880
Speaker 2: top the lines in the and the Eagles are tied

1905
01:36:05,120 --> 01:36:05,960
Speaker 2: for the fifth spot.

1906
01:36:07,040 --> 01:36:08,880
Speaker 3: I have Denver in there too, so I'll give Denver

1907
01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:13,600
Speaker 3: some loves. We miss missing the boat on Denver. I

1908
01:36:13,680 --> 01:36:17,640
Speaker 3: don't fully believe yet, but I'm wrong a lot. They

1909
01:36:17,680 --> 01:36:19,600
Speaker 3: look like a complete team at boone Nicks is you know.

1910
01:36:19,680 --> 01:36:20,360
Speaker 2: Turnover free.

1911
01:36:21,000 --> 01:36:23,320
Speaker 6: If I may jump in, I feel like the one

1912
01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:25,599
Speaker 6: thing with Denver that doesn't make me take off from

1913
01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:28,600
Speaker 6: them is like if they get the one seed, that

1914
01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:31,280
Speaker 6: is a home field advantage for the entire playoffs in

1915
01:36:31,320 --> 01:36:33,839
Speaker 6: a place with a real home field advantage playing at altitude,

1916
01:36:34,040 --> 01:36:37,600
Speaker 6: that's or no, no Denver Denver like it is that

1917
01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:39,599
Speaker 6: playing at altitude is no joke.

1918
01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:40,840
Speaker 2: I think Buffalo can.

1919
01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:42,559
Speaker 3: Go into Denver and win. What do you guys think?

1920
01:36:43,040 --> 01:36:43,680
Speaker 2: Absolutely?

1921
01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:46,679
Speaker 4: But that's the thing, man, I haven't bought Denver all year.

1922
01:36:46,920 --> 01:36:47,439
Speaker 2: I mean neither.

1923
01:36:47,560 --> 01:36:50,120
Speaker 4: Chris's point right, Like, if they're at home and they

1924
01:36:50,200 --> 01:36:52,840
Speaker 4: have to win two home games to get to the

1925
01:36:52,920 --> 01:36:55,639
Speaker 4: super Bowl. They've got a really good defense, a really

1926
01:36:55,680 --> 01:36:59,439
Speaker 4: good offensive line. They sack your quarterback the most, they

1927
01:36:59,520 --> 01:37:02,280
Speaker 4: give up the least amount of sacks. Like, that's a

1928
01:37:02,360 --> 01:37:03,960
Speaker 4: formula where you're gonna be in a lot of games.

1929
01:37:03,960 --> 01:37:05,840
Speaker 2: They're gonna win a lot of games. Peyton's a good

1930
01:37:05,880 --> 01:37:06,400
Speaker 2: coach too.

1931
01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:09,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're gonna be the one seed.

1932
01:37:09,120 --> 01:37:09,720
Speaker 2: I mean they play.

1933
01:37:09,880 --> 01:37:11,800
Speaker 3: They play the Chiefs in the Chargers last two games,

1934
01:37:12,280 --> 01:37:13,880
Speaker 3: the Jags. If they win the Jags game this week,

1935
01:37:13,880 --> 01:37:14,720
Speaker 3: they're gonna be the one seed.

1936
01:37:14,800 --> 01:37:15,040
Speaker 2: I think.

1937
01:37:15,040 --> 01:37:16,080
Speaker 3: I feel comfortable saying that.

1938
01:37:16,520 --> 01:37:18,599
Speaker 4: I want to be shocked if Jacksonville goes in there

1939
01:37:18,640 --> 01:37:20,000
Speaker 4: and gives them a game, right that would.

1940
01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:21,479
Speaker 3: Liam Cohen's had a hell of here.

1941
01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:24,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a good coach. That's good team. You know

1942
01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:24,960
Speaker 2: who I think.

1943
01:37:25,160 --> 01:37:26,760
Speaker 3: I think it's Buffalo in the Rams. That's my final

1944
01:37:26,800 --> 01:37:28,360
Speaker 3: answer right now, But I reserve the right to change

1945
01:37:28,360 --> 01:37:29,200
Speaker 3: out over the next few weeks.

1946
01:37:29,280 --> 01:37:31,479
Speaker 2: I know probably will make sense.

1947
01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:34,240
Speaker 4: You know, the way this season is playing out, you'd

1948
01:37:34,240 --> 01:37:36,720
Speaker 4: probably be like, I want anything but that matchup, you know,

1949
01:37:36,880 --> 01:37:38,800
Speaker 4: like a week from now or something crazy.

1950
01:37:39,040 --> 01:37:41,200
Speaker 3: How about San Francisco we sleeping on the Niners?

1951
01:37:41,640 --> 01:37:44,080
Speaker 2: We are? That's what they got a shot to be

1952
01:37:44,120 --> 01:37:44,720
Speaker 2: the one seed.

1953
01:37:44,840 --> 01:37:45,000
Speaker 3: I know.

1954
01:37:45,240 --> 01:37:47,920
Speaker 2: I left it open, I said, and honestly I feel

1955
01:37:47,960 --> 01:37:50,959
Speaker 2: like saying Bills and one of the three NFC West.

1956
01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:52,880
Speaker 3: Teams, like, I don't trust Donald.

1957
01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:54,120
Speaker 2: I'm willing to limit I do.

1958
01:37:54,360 --> 01:37:56,559
Speaker 3: I do not trust Sam Darnold. I can't get there.

1959
01:37:56,600 --> 01:37:58,519
Speaker 2: On Darnald, I can't. Yeah, I can't give you a

1960
01:37:58,560 --> 01:37:59,000
Speaker 2: hot take.

1961
01:38:01,479 --> 01:38:06,679
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go Rams, and this requires some explaining Patriots, like, wow,

1962
01:38:07,360 --> 01:38:08,799
Speaker 4: I know we've sold.

1963
01:38:08,640 --> 01:38:09,400
Speaker 2: All of our stock.

1964
01:38:09,479 --> 01:38:11,880
Speaker 4: Right, they've lost at home to the Bills when they

1965
01:38:11,920 --> 01:38:13,040
Speaker 4: had a twenty one point lead.

1966
01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:16,639
Speaker 2: I get it. But you still have a pretty good defense.

1967
01:38:16,840 --> 01:38:19,240
Speaker 4: You still have Drake May who throughout most of the

1968
01:38:19,280 --> 01:38:21,439
Speaker 4: season has been a legitimate MVP candidate.

1969
01:38:21,560 --> 01:38:22,759
Speaker 2: You still have Mike Vrabel.

1970
01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:25,840
Speaker 4: I know they haven't had playoff experience, right, they haven't

1971
01:38:25,840 --> 01:38:28,960
Speaker 4: been there in a while. Right, It's not like even

1972
01:38:29,040 --> 01:38:31,360
Speaker 4: Denver last year getting kicked in the teeth by Buffalo

1973
01:38:31,479 --> 01:38:34,280
Speaker 4: that was playoff experience that could help him out this season.

1974
01:38:35,280 --> 01:38:36,479
Speaker 2: So yeah, there are a lot.

1975
01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:39,000
Speaker 4: Of reasons to bet against the Patriots, but right now

1976
01:38:39,120 --> 01:38:42,360
Speaker 4: they're a two seed, they're gonna win the division. I

1977
01:38:42,439 --> 01:38:45,679
Speaker 4: think there are reasons too, Like right now you're buying low.

1978
01:38:46,200 --> 01:38:48,320
Speaker 4: Now no one's running over to the betting window to

1979
01:38:48,400 --> 01:38:51,599
Speaker 4: take the Patriots. And in an AFC that is as

1980
01:38:51,760 --> 01:38:54,680
Speaker 4: wide open as I can ever remember it, it's like,

1981
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:57,120
Speaker 4: why not them? So I'll go with the Patriots and

1982
01:38:57,160 --> 01:38:58,599
Speaker 4: the Rams. That'll be my Super Bowl pick.

1983
01:38:58,680 --> 01:38:58,920
Speaker 2: Right now.

1984
01:38:59,000 --> 01:39:02,880
Speaker 3: Patriots would be a massive shock. I still think they're

1985
01:39:02,880 --> 01:39:04,880
Speaker 3: a year away, but I think Rabel should be coach

1986
01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:05,439
Speaker 3: of the Year.

1987
01:39:05,439 --> 01:39:09,400
Speaker 2: For Surebel's awesome, Drake May's been awesome, and you know,

1988
01:39:09,680 --> 01:39:13,720
Speaker 2: it's it's funny how we think about certain quarterbacks. I mean,

1989
01:39:13,800 --> 01:39:17,440
Speaker 2: we don't trust Darnold. We have such a slim perspective

1990
01:39:17,479 --> 01:39:20,000
Speaker 2: of what he is as a playoff quarterback. Can we

1991
01:39:20,080 --> 01:39:22,960
Speaker 2: really trust Josh Allen? You know, I mean, like we can.

1992
01:39:23,200 --> 01:39:25,439
Speaker 2: We know what he looks like in the postseason and

1993
01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:27,519
Speaker 2: he hasn't gotten there yet, you know. I mean same

1994
01:39:27,600 --> 01:39:30,800
Speaker 2: with Lamar Jackson. It's like, you know, the stories being

1995
01:39:30,840 --> 01:39:34,439
Speaker 2: written for these quarterbacks. They they can put it together

1996
01:39:34,520 --> 01:39:38,320
Speaker 2: for a regular season and maybe one or two playoff games,

1997
01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:40,800
Speaker 2: but when it comes down to the nitty gritty man,

1998
01:39:40,920 --> 01:39:44,360
Speaker 2: they they have failed so many times now. And so yeah,

1999
01:39:44,439 --> 01:39:48,040
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe the untested Drake May is the better

2000
01:39:48,160 --> 01:39:51,320
Speaker 2: route to go. Maybe we'll see, man, I can't wait

2001
01:39:51,400 --> 01:39:52,719
Speaker 2: for the playoffs. It's gonna be crazy.

2002
01:39:52,920 --> 01:39:56,000
Speaker 4: We've got Rich Hornberger, Penn State All American, Jared Smith

2003
01:39:56,200 --> 01:39:59,720
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2004
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2005
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2006
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2007
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2008
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2009
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2010
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2011
01:40:16,760 --> 01:40:19,360
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2012
01:40:19,520 --> 01:40:22,679
Speaker 4: team be aggressive today or are they gonna be super

2013
01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:25,800
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2014
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2015
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2016
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2017
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2018
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2019
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2020
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2021
01:40:48,680 --> 01:40:51,400
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2022
01:40:51,479 --> 01:40:54,880
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2023
01:40:54,960 --> 01:40:58,080
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2024
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2025
01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:00,160
Speaker 2: Right.

2026
01:41:00,240 --> 01:41:03,519
Speaker 4: So, we've got Miami against Texas A and M today

2027
01:41:04,320 --> 01:41:06,800
Speaker 4: and uh it's kicking off here in a half hour.

2028
01:41:07,280 --> 01:41:10,000
Speaker 4: We're on the doorstep of this game. Let's get it on,

2029
01:41:10,200 --> 01:41:12,519
Speaker 4: as Mills Lane used to say, And we've had some

2030
01:41:12,640 --> 01:41:14,920
Speaker 4: movement here a and m only favored by two and

2031
01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:18,080
Speaker 4: a half. Now there's some Miami money like pushing it

2032
01:41:18,280 --> 01:41:21,920
Speaker 4: down through the key number of three. My big question

2033
01:41:22,200 --> 01:41:26,200
Speaker 4: here is is Miami going to be aggressive because with

2034
01:41:26,320 --> 01:41:30,400
Speaker 4: the Mario Christobal coach team, especially if they have a lead,

2035
01:41:31,040 --> 01:41:34,720
Speaker 4: they sometimes have tendencies to get super careful and kind

2036
01:41:34,760 --> 01:41:37,560
Speaker 4: of Ryan Day this thing up here. You know, like,

2037
01:41:37,720 --> 01:41:38,960
Speaker 4: as a Dolphins fan, I have.

2038
01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:41,439
Speaker 2: A confession to make to you guys. Okay, I want

2039
01:41:41,479 --> 01:41:42,840
Speaker 2: to come clean here on the show.

2040
01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:48,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, as a diehard Dolphins fan, I was basically pleading

2041
01:41:49,560 --> 01:41:53,840
Speaker 4: with the football gods for my Dolphins to not draft

2042
01:41:54,160 --> 01:41:57,559
Speaker 4: Justin Herbert and two draft to a tongue of id wow,

2043
01:41:57,840 --> 01:41:58,040
Speaker 4: how do.

2044
01:41:58,000 --> 01:41:58,519
Speaker 2: You go about that?

2045
01:41:58,600 --> 01:42:02,679
Speaker 4: Now? I feel off about that now, But it goes

2046
01:42:02,760 --> 01:42:07,040
Speaker 4: back to the way Mario Christibaal didn't utilize Justin Herbert

2047
01:42:07,080 --> 01:42:11,479
Speaker 4: properly at Oregon. He was so careful, he was so worried,

2048
01:42:11,600 --> 01:42:14,320
Speaker 4: like let's be conservative, let's run the ball here, and

2049
01:42:14,400 --> 01:42:16,639
Speaker 4: then when they were losing, it's like, all right, Herbert,

2050
01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:18,880
Speaker 4: just air it. Out and Herbert's like finally cool, Like

2051
01:42:19,120 --> 01:42:21,080
Speaker 4: they just cut the handcuffs off of him, and he's

2052
01:42:21,160 --> 01:42:24,320
Speaker 4: like dime dime dime just right down the field. I

2053
01:42:24,479 --> 01:42:27,000
Speaker 4: just didn't think much of Herbert in college, but it

2054
01:42:27,160 --> 01:42:30,200
Speaker 4: was more so how Christabal just didn't use him properly.

2055
01:42:30,720 --> 01:42:33,280
Speaker 4: And so if you apply that to today's game, is

2056
01:42:33,360 --> 01:42:36,280
Speaker 4: christ Ball going to be aggressive, especially if they have

2057
01:42:36,400 --> 01:42:39,920
Speaker 4: a lead, or is he gonna get tight, super conservative,

2058
01:42:40,040 --> 01:42:42,479
Speaker 4: super careful because a lot of times that comes back

2059
01:42:42,520 --> 01:42:43,360
Speaker 4: to bite Miami.

2060
01:42:43,880 --> 01:42:47,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really could you know, Miami, what they're bullied

2061
01:42:47,240 --> 01:42:52,040
Speaker 2: by this season? Is this this excellent defense, especially early

2062
01:42:52,120 --> 01:42:55,840
Speaker 2: in games. You know, one of the biggest concerns I

2063
01:42:55,880 --> 01:42:59,519
Speaker 2: would say for Texas A and M is matching up

2064
01:42:59,560 --> 01:43:03,679
Speaker 2: with the Hurricanes, who have only allowed four point eight

2065
01:43:04,040 --> 01:43:08,240
Speaker 2: points in the first half throughout the entire season. That's

2066
01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:11,680
Speaker 2: that's a pretty good average for starting a game off.

2067
01:43:11,840 --> 01:43:15,360
Speaker 2: And also remember this time slot. You know, it's it's

2068
01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:18,400
Speaker 2: not gonna be low energy, not by any leaps or bounds.

2069
01:43:18,439 --> 01:43:20,720
Speaker 2: But this isn't a night game, so might be a

2070
01:43:20,760 --> 01:43:23,920
Speaker 2: little bit of a sleepy start. Crowd might not all

2071
01:43:24,240 --> 01:43:26,800
Speaker 2: be all the way into it just yet. A and

2072
01:43:27,040 --> 01:43:29,479
Speaker 2: M you know, they kind of crept out the gates

2073
01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:33,120
Speaker 2: in Week twelve against South Carolina. They scored only a

2074
01:43:33,200 --> 01:43:35,479
Speaker 2: field goal, and then they had a ferocious second quarter,

2075
01:43:35,640 --> 01:43:37,880
Speaker 2: Like absolutely, I mean it was like who let the

2076
01:43:37,960 --> 01:43:38,439
Speaker 2: dogs out?

2077
01:43:39,640 --> 01:43:39,840
Speaker 7: You know?

2078
01:43:40,720 --> 01:43:43,880
Speaker 2: But really they can't. They can't afford a slow start

2079
01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:48,400
Speaker 2: to Miami. And I think, in my brain, now we'll

2080
01:43:48,439 --> 01:43:51,040
Speaker 2: see once the fur gets flying what actually happens. But

2081
01:43:51,120 --> 01:43:55,280
Speaker 2: in my brain, I could very easily see Miami being stout,

2082
01:43:56,200 --> 01:43:58,120
Speaker 2: Texas A and M having a hard time moving the

2083
01:43:58,200 --> 01:44:02,400
Speaker 2: football crowds a little drowsy, maybe A and M hasn't

2084
01:44:02,439 --> 01:44:05,479
Speaker 2: woken up yet, and all of a sudden, we have

2085
01:44:05,640 --> 01:44:07,040
Speaker 2: a first half ball game.

2086
01:44:08,520 --> 01:44:10,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this is the trenches game.

2087
01:44:10,240 --> 01:44:12,679
Speaker 2: Guys, I think both.

2088
01:44:13,000 --> 01:44:17,120
Speaker 3: So you want to talk about NFL talent, Look on

2089
01:44:17,240 --> 01:44:19,720
Speaker 3: the lines of both of these teams, for Texas A

2090
01:44:19,800 --> 01:44:22,720
Speaker 3: and m cash is Howell defensive end. I mean, he's

2091
01:44:22,800 --> 01:44:24,160
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's gonna be a first round pick,

2092
01:44:24,160 --> 01:44:26,760
Speaker 3: but he's gonna be in the conversation the matchup with

2093
01:44:26,920 --> 01:44:30,280
Speaker 3: him and Mayaga the right tackle for Miami. Now, he

2094
01:44:30,479 --> 01:44:31,960
Speaker 3: is gonna be a first round pick. He might be

2095
01:44:32,000 --> 01:44:34,720
Speaker 3: a top ten pick. I think Miami's got two to

2096
01:44:34,960 --> 01:44:39,320
Speaker 3: three first round, first day, first second, third round picks

2097
01:44:39,360 --> 01:44:44,080
Speaker 3: on this offensive line. The defensive line for Miami. I mean,

2098
01:44:44,280 --> 01:44:46,160
Speaker 3: Ruben Bain Junior might be the number one pick in

2099
01:44:46,200 --> 01:44:48,200
Speaker 3: the draft. I don't know if any of these quarterbacks

2100
01:44:48,240 --> 01:44:51,240
Speaker 3: are gonna be the guy. That'll be a fun discussion

2101
01:44:51,240 --> 01:44:53,120
Speaker 3: we have over the next couple months after the NFL

2102
01:44:53,240 --> 01:44:57,240
Speaker 3: season ends and we get into draft mode. But this

2103
01:44:57,360 --> 01:45:00,960
Speaker 3: is Miami defensive line with Bain Mesador Moten. We've talked

2104
01:45:00,960 --> 01:45:02,840
Speaker 3: about them multiple times on the show this year.

2105
01:45:03,560 --> 01:45:06,080
Speaker 2: They've got a match up against A and M's offensive line,

2106
01:45:06,080 --> 01:45:09,640
Speaker 2: which doesn't have any like elite first round guys, but

2107
01:45:10,160 --> 01:45:12,479
Speaker 2: as a collective unit, they've been very talented and very

2108
01:45:12,520 --> 01:45:13,320
Speaker 2: productive this year.

2109
01:45:13,680 --> 01:45:16,240
Speaker 3: And their nickname is the Maroon Goons, which has to

2110
01:45:16,280 --> 01:45:18,519
Speaker 3: be one of my favorite nicknames for any offensive line,

2111
01:45:18,520 --> 01:45:21,200
Speaker 3: maybe in the history of sports. So I think you

2112
01:45:21,320 --> 01:45:24,080
Speaker 3: have to look in first and then you go outside.

2113
01:45:24,280 --> 01:45:25,919
Speaker 3: And I think if you do go to the outside,

2114
01:45:26,000 --> 01:45:28,439
Speaker 3: I think Tony, right, We've talked about him a lot

2115
01:45:28,479 --> 01:45:30,760
Speaker 3: this year too, Malachi Tony, freshman receiver who's come on

2116
01:45:30,960 --> 01:45:34,400
Speaker 3: really strong over the last month or two. I think

2117
01:45:34,479 --> 01:45:37,320
Speaker 3: his game's a little bit more complete than the receivers

2118
01:45:37,360 --> 01:45:41,240
Speaker 3: that A and M has. And if both quarterbacks like

2119
01:45:41,400 --> 01:45:44,439
Speaker 3: in a vacuum, if neither defensive line can impact the quarterback,

2120
01:45:44,439 --> 01:45:46,040
Speaker 3: which I don't think will happen, but let's just say

2121
01:45:46,120 --> 01:45:49,479
Speaker 3: both quarterbacks have clean pockets for the whole game. I

2122
01:45:49,560 --> 01:45:52,000
Speaker 3: trust Beck a little more than I trust Reid. Reid's

2123
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:54,880
Speaker 3: a coach's kid. He's smart, but he's a little inconsistent

2124
01:45:54,960 --> 01:45:57,519
Speaker 3: with his reads. Whereas Beck, I think if you can

2125
01:45:58,040 --> 01:46:01,960
Speaker 3: protect him and run the he has the ability to

2126
01:46:02,120 --> 01:46:04,200
Speaker 3: stack plays. The one thing I love about Carson Beck

2127
01:46:04,320 --> 01:46:06,040
Speaker 3: is he does not bite off more than he could chew.

2128
01:46:06,360 --> 01:46:08,519
Speaker 3: He is fine with checking it down, taking his five

2129
01:46:08,600 --> 01:46:10,800
Speaker 3: yards of profit and moving on to the next play

2130
01:46:10,840 --> 01:46:13,120
Speaker 3: and doing the same thing over and over and over again.

2131
01:46:13,360 --> 01:46:14,880
Speaker 3: And what that does is to put stress on the

2132
01:46:14,920 --> 01:46:17,120
Speaker 3: defense to be balanced the whole time, because if you

2133
01:46:17,160 --> 01:46:19,400
Speaker 3: give him an inch, he'll take it. He's not looking

2134
01:46:19,479 --> 01:46:21,880
Speaker 3: to bite your head off every play. Some quarterbacks get

2135
01:46:21,880 --> 01:46:24,320
Speaker 3: a little nervy, they get a little impatient, they try

2136
01:46:24,360 --> 01:46:25,960
Speaker 3: to make the big play. That's what we've seen with

2137
01:46:26,080 --> 01:46:28,800
Speaker 3: Marcel Reid, where he'll come off of things and come

2138
01:46:28,880 --> 01:46:31,360
Speaker 3: off come off of windows, that are open because he's

2139
01:46:31,400 --> 01:46:34,120
Speaker 3: trying to make the big throw. And I think that's

2140
01:46:34,160 --> 01:46:37,760
Speaker 3: where I trust Miami on the field a little bit more.

2141
01:46:38,320 --> 01:46:42,240
Speaker 3: But then Brian mentioned the Mario Chrystoball factor, the tight

2142
01:46:42,320 --> 01:46:46,200
Speaker 3: sphincter syndrome factor. That's the part I can't quantify here.

2143
01:46:46,439 --> 01:46:48,559
Speaker 3: That's the part that scares me about being on Miami.

2144
01:46:48,640 --> 01:46:50,160
Speaker 3: And now that the line's gone from three and a half,

2145
01:46:50,200 --> 01:46:51,920
Speaker 3: which I bet earlier this week, now it's three, and

2146
01:46:51,960 --> 01:46:52,680
Speaker 3: now we're seeing two and.

2147
01:46:52,680 --> 01:46:53,360
Speaker 2: A Half's.

2148
01:46:55,840 --> 01:46:58,840
Speaker 4: Tough to get there on Miami at the current price. Bran, Yeah,

2149
01:46:59,320 --> 01:47:01,600
Speaker 4: you know it's funny to me is follow me on

2150
01:47:01,680 --> 01:47:03,680
Speaker 4: this one. There are a couple of gymnastics that you

2151
01:47:03,760 --> 01:47:07,080
Speaker 4: have to do mentally here. Sorry, there will be math

2152
01:47:07,200 --> 01:47:10,720
Speaker 4: on this show. But I think that Texas A and

2153
01:47:10,880 --> 01:47:15,000
Speaker 4: M is a lot like Bears quarterback Caleb Williams, meaning

2154
01:47:15,080 --> 01:47:17,639
Speaker 4: like if you look at Caleb Williams and you're like, wow,

2155
01:47:17,760 --> 01:47:21,439
Speaker 4: you just made that sensational throw and another sensational play,

2156
01:47:21,600 --> 01:47:25,080
Speaker 4: like wow, that is playmaking defined right there, and then

2157
01:47:25,160 --> 01:47:28,120
Speaker 4: he'll he'll miss a bunny right Like. It's weird how

2158
01:47:28,200 --> 01:47:30,880
Speaker 4: that works out with Texas A and M. It's similar

2159
01:47:30,960 --> 01:47:33,360
Speaker 4: but different in ways. Right, Obviously, we're talking about Texas

2160
01:47:33,360 --> 01:47:35,800
Speaker 4: A and M's defense. What they have going for them.

2161
01:47:36,960 --> 01:47:40,760
Speaker 4: Tackles for loss, they're third nationally. They average almost eight

2162
01:47:40,920 --> 01:47:45,840
Speaker 4: tackles for loss per game. Like, they're the lowest third

2163
01:47:45,880 --> 01:47:48,519
Speaker 4: down conversion rate in the country, that's what they allow

2164
01:47:49,120 --> 01:47:51,360
Speaker 4: those they're great on third down, they're great at tackles

2165
01:47:51,400 --> 01:47:53,960
Speaker 4: for loss. They have the highest sack rate in the country,

2166
01:47:54,080 --> 01:47:56,920
Speaker 4: nearly ten percent. That's a lot of stuff in your

2167
01:47:57,000 --> 01:48:01,160
Speaker 4: favor right there. Yet somehow, some way, they give up

2168
01:48:01,840 --> 01:48:05,720
Speaker 4: monster plays. And it's like, how can you sack the

2169
01:48:05,800 --> 01:48:08,920
Speaker 4: quarterback routine? Lee, have all these tackles for loss, be

2170
01:48:09,000 --> 01:48:11,280
Speaker 4: great on third down, and you're just giving up big

2171
01:48:11,360 --> 01:48:13,439
Speaker 4: play after big play after big play.

2172
01:48:14,000 --> 01:48:15,000
Speaker 2: It's just so weird.

2173
01:48:15,120 --> 01:48:17,600
Speaker 4: With A and M's defense, it is absolutely feast or

2174
01:48:17,640 --> 01:48:20,200
Speaker 4: famine and we'll see what happens in this game.

2175
01:48:20,280 --> 01:48:21,960
Speaker 2: But it goes back to the original point.

2176
01:48:22,640 --> 01:48:25,560
Speaker 4: If Miami is aggressive, right, if Beck is pushing the

2177
01:48:25,640 --> 01:48:29,040
Speaker 4: ball downfield, if they're hunting those big plays, they're there

2178
01:48:29,120 --> 01:48:32,160
Speaker 4: to be had. But it's like, is that what Miami's

2179
01:48:32,320 --> 01:48:35,600
Speaker 4: approach is? Are they aggressive or are they more conservative?

2180
01:48:35,680 --> 01:48:38,280
Speaker 4: Because if they're hunting big plays. I think they're gonna

2181
01:48:38,320 --> 01:48:40,439
Speaker 4: hit on a number of them against A and M's defense.

2182
01:48:40,479 --> 01:48:42,920
Speaker 4: That's just what they've done consistently throughout this season.

2183
01:48:43,400 --> 01:48:47,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that, you know, going kind of dovetailing

2184
01:48:47,600 --> 01:48:49,800
Speaker 2: off your point and going back to my original point,

2185
01:48:50,560 --> 01:48:54,599
Speaker 2: where if you are one of those teams who can

2186
01:48:54,680 --> 01:48:57,640
Speaker 2: get aggressive against a team like A and M, and

2187
01:48:57,760 --> 01:49:01,120
Speaker 2: you can keep it close for a half, all of

2188
01:49:01,160 --> 01:49:04,000
Speaker 2: a sudden, we've got ourselves a ballgame on our hands.

2189
01:49:04,800 --> 01:49:08,680
Speaker 2: I don't sleep on the Hurricanes finding a way to

2190
01:49:08,800 --> 01:49:12,280
Speaker 2: stifle early production from A and M. And if they

2191
01:49:12,360 --> 01:49:15,080
Speaker 2: do take some big swings, you know, if they do

2192
01:49:15,840 --> 01:49:18,240
Speaker 2: find a way to uncork it a little bit, whether

2193
01:49:18,320 --> 01:49:21,880
Speaker 2: it be with specials, you know, some exotics that they've

2194
01:49:21,960 --> 01:49:25,720
Speaker 2: kept under the lid for an entire season, or that

2195
01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:29,040
Speaker 2: they've been working on in the interim here, whatever it

2196
01:49:29,160 --> 01:49:31,599
Speaker 2: may be, If you can catch A and M. Sleep

2197
01:49:31,680 --> 01:49:34,679
Speaker 2: in a couple of times and pump the football downfield,

2198
01:49:34,720 --> 01:49:38,120
Speaker 2: get a nice chunk play, or rattle off a nice explosive,

2199
01:49:38,360 --> 01:49:42,599
Speaker 2: you know, something unexpected, you know, convert on a fourth down.

2200
01:49:42,760 --> 01:49:44,759
Speaker 2: Even if you're taking a little bit of a gamble

2201
01:49:44,880 --> 01:49:48,479
Speaker 2: early in the game. You know, sometimes those risks, they

2202
01:49:48,560 --> 01:49:51,800
Speaker 2: can end up being you know, you know in the

2203
01:49:51,880 --> 01:49:55,200
Speaker 2: postgame review, Hey yeah, Miami just rolled the dice too

2204
01:49:55,240 --> 01:49:57,439
Speaker 2: many times and it didn't come up for them. But

2205
01:49:57,600 --> 01:50:01,240
Speaker 2: sometimes those risks are what net you a postseason win

2206
01:50:01,320 --> 01:50:04,000
Speaker 2: on the road. And I do think you're going to

2207
01:50:04,080 --> 01:50:07,439
Speaker 2: have to at least one and a half have a

2208
01:50:08,120 --> 01:50:11,400
Speaker 2: big first half play and a big second half play

2209
01:50:11,600 --> 01:50:15,760
Speaker 2: at least plus play some pretty solid defense, especially in

2210
01:50:15,840 --> 01:50:17,960
Speaker 2: the first half, to set the tone of this ballgame.

2211
01:50:18,479 --> 01:50:20,800
Speaker 2: If Miami wants to shot to win this game, I

2212
01:50:20,880 --> 01:50:23,880
Speaker 2: really do And I'm not saying Texas A and M

2213
01:50:24,000 --> 01:50:27,680
Speaker 2: is prime for the plucking some pretty good defense, but man,

2214
01:50:28,120 --> 01:50:31,160
Speaker 2: so is that Hurricanes defense a look out. I really

2215
01:50:31,240 --> 01:50:32,760
Speaker 2: do think it's going to be a little bit of

2216
01:50:32,840 --> 01:50:35,240
Speaker 2: a war up front, a low scoring first half, and

2217
01:50:35,280 --> 01:50:38,000
Speaker 2: then who knows, maybe we start seeing the scoreboard light

2218
01:50:38,120 --> 01:50:41,320
Speaker 2: up a little bit more after these these two contenders

2219
01:50:41,439 --> 01:50:44,759
Speaker 2: have circled the ring for a little bit for thirty minutes.

2220
01:50:45,320 --> 01:50:47,120
Speaker 3: I actually think the only edge A and M has

2221
01:50:47,160 --> 01:50:49,800
Speaker 3: in the game is in the coaching box. I really

2222
01:50:49,840 --> 01:50:51,640
Speaker 3: think Miami is the better team, but I think A

2223
01:50:51,760 --> 01:50:55,040
Speaker 3: and M's better coach. In eight SEC games, this year,

2224
01:50:55,120 --> 01:50:57,679
Speaker 3: A and M played the bottom five teams, including four

2225
01:50:57,760 --> 01:51:00,479
Speaker 3: that fired their head coaches. They avoided all six of

2226
01:51:00,640 --> 01:51:04,559
Speaker 3: the top teams in the SEC, so it is very

2227
01:51:04,640 --> 01:51:06,439
Speaker 3: fair to question the A and M schedule. Even though

2228
01:51:06,479 --> 01:51:09,680
Speaker 3: the SEC obviously is the best conference in America, they

2229
01:51:09,720 --> 01:51:12,280
Speaker 3: did not face any of the top teams in that

2230
01:51:12,479 --> 01:51:15,679
Speaker 3: best conference. I love the matchup with Tony. We've talked

2231
01:51:15,720 --> 01:51:17,200
Speaker 3: a lot about the trenches. Let's give you a little

2232
01:51:17,200 --> 01:51:21,439
Speaker 3: skill a little skill love here, Malachai. Tony's gonna line

2233
01:51:21,520 --> 01:51:24,040
Speaker 3: up all over the field. He mostly is a slot receiver.

2234
01:51:24,840 --> 01:51:27,040
Speaker 3: A and M is very good in the slot. Nickel

2235
01:51:27,080 --> 01:51:29,679
Speaker 3: corner Tyree Chapel is one of the better slot corners

2236
01:51:29,680 --> 01:51:32,320
Speaker 3: in the country. The Aggies have the seventh fewest yards

2237
01:51:32,320 --> 01:51:35,200
Speaker 3: per attempt on targets the slot receivers. They're very good

2238
01:51:35,240 --> 01:51:37,519
Speaker 3: at defending the slot and they're also very good at

2239
01:51:37,560 --> 01:51:40,920
Speaker 3: defending screen passes. The fewest yards per attempt against screen

2240
01:51:41,000 --> 01:51:44,080
Speaker 3: passes this year. That's how Miami likes to get Tony involved.

2241
01:51:44,479 --> 01:51:46,960
Speaker 3: They actually he can throw it too. He played quarterback

2242
01:51:47,000 --> 01:51:51,040
Speaker 3: in American Heritage led them to a state championship. Just

2243
01:51:51,120 --> 01:51:54,600
Speaker 3: an awesome high school player. High school quarterback so he

2244
01:51:54,640 --> 01:51:56,080
Speaker 3: can throw it, he can run it, he can catch it.

2245
01:51:56,320 --> 01:51:57,920
Speaker 3: They're gonna look to get him the ball in all

2246
01:51:58,160 --> 01:52:00,880
Speaker 3: types of different ways. I think on the other side

2247
01:52:00,920 --> 01:52:04,320
Speaker 3: of the ball, I'm a little bit concerned about Marce Reid. Guys,

2248
01:52:04,560 --> 01:52:06,840
Speaker 3: I think the two quarterbacks in this game, I think

2249
01:52:06,880 --> 01:52:09,160
Speaker 3: Beck's got more experience, for sure, but I think Beck's

2250
01:52:09,160 --> 01:52:13,280
Speaker 3: a little bit cleaner. Marcel Reid eighth most turnover where

2251
01:52:13,320 --> 01:52:15,880
Speaker 3: he plays amongst powerful quarterbacks this year, only a fifty

2252
01:52:15,920 --> 01:52:18,639
Speaker 3: two percent accurate pass rate. That's the fifteenth worst mark

2253
01:52:19,120 --> 01:52:21,320
Speaker 3: of one hundred and forty one qualifiers. He's in the

2254
01:52:21,360 --> 01:52:25,200
Speaker 3: bottom fifteen of accurate pass rate. So I think he's

2255
01:52:25,240 --> 01:52:29,479
Speaker 3: a really smart, sharp kid. He's improved dramatically with his arm.

2256
01:52:29,600 --> 01:52:31,560
Speaker 3: Last year they didn't ask him to do anything. It

2257
01:52:31,680 --> 01:52:33,920
Speaker 3: was all wigman with throwing it, and then when they

2258
01:52:34,000 --> 01:52:36,880
Speaker 3: brought in Reid, it was more of an RPO option

2259
01:52:37,080 --> 01:52:41,240
Speaker 3: kind of vibe. He's made strides and improvements throwing it,

2260
01:52:41,600 --> 01:52:43,360
Speaker 3: but he had a lot of ground to make up,

2261
01:52:43,439 --> 01:52:46,040
Speaker 3: like He's still not a polished passer in the pocket yet.

2262
01:52:46,120 --> 01:52:48,760
Speaker 3: So I'm fascinating to see if the game script does

2263
01:52:48,840 --> 01:52:50,960
Speaker 3: flip Miami's way like if Miami gets off to the

2264
01:52:51,040 --> 01:52:52,800
Speaker 3: nice start they're running it, you put Texas A and

2265
01:52:52,920 --> 01:52:54,680
Speaker 3: M in that negative game script, similar to what what

2266
01:52:54,800 --> 01:52:57,560
Speaker 3: we saw against Texas a few weeks ago when A

2267
01:52:57,640 --> 01:53:00,439
Speaker 3: and M really struggled to make up that lead. I

2268
01:53:00,520 --> 01:53:03,320
Speaker 3: don't know if reads the type of quarterback that can

2269
01:53:03,439 --> 01:53:05,840
Speaker 3: play from a negative game script. We're on the other side, Brian,

2270
01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:08,000
Speaker 3: if A and M takes an early lead, I kind

2271
01:53:08,040 --> 01:53:10,320
Speaker 3: of trust Carson Beck to make the right decisions and

2272
01:53:10,400 --> 01:53:12,400
Speaker 3: to get his team back in the game. So the

2273
01:53:12,479 --> 01:53:14,840
Speaker 3: game script matters a lot here, But I still think

2274
01:53:14,880 --> 01:53:16,640
Speaker 3: the only real edge for A and M in this

2275
01:53:16,760 --> 01:53:19,320
Speaker 3: game is between the ears in the coaches box. I

2276
01:53:19,479 --> 01:53:22,040
Speaker 3: really think the players on the field. I think Miami's

2277
01:53:22,040 --> 01:53:24,479
Speaker 3: a little bit bigger, faster, stronger, especially in the trenches.

2278
01:53:25,280 --> 01:53:26,840
Speaker 2: Man to me, I hear what you're saying.

2279
01:53:26,920 --> 01:53:30,360
Speaker 4: It's a tough deal with the quarterback breakdown because the

2280
01:53:30,439 --> 01:53:33,559
Speaker 4: thing with Carson Beck. Good Carson Beck could show up

2281
01:53:33,760 --> 01:53:36,439
Speaker 4: in about twenty minutes, or bad Carson Beck could show

2282
01:53:36,520 --> 01:53:38,240
Speaker 4: up for like the next three hours, you know what

2283
01:53:38,280 --> 01:53:40,680
Speaker 4: I mean, Like he's just that guy. Like the four

2284
01:53:40,760 --> 01:53:44,120
Speaker 4: interceptions against Louisville, it was like, what is this guy

2285
01:53:44,240 --> 01:53:47,000
Speaker 4: doing what is he doing right now? So he has

2286
01:53:47,600 --> 01:53:51,400
Speaker 4: either those games or those halves or those quarters, and

2287
01:53:51,560 --> 01:53:54,479
Speaker 4: a quarter could beat you if it's bad Carson Beck

2288
01:53:54,840 --> 01:53:58,320
Speaker 4: against the talented team like Texas A and M. Listen, man,

2289
01:53:58,400 --> 01:54:00,280
Speaker 4: I go back to I hear you on A and

2290
01:54:00,400 --> 01:54:03,080
Speaker 4: M schedule. It hasn't been murderer's row. This is actually

2291
01:54:03,160 --> 01:54:05,639
Speaker 4: the Notre Dame Bowl, right where both teams beat Notre Dame.

2292
01:54:05,680 --> 01:54:08,680
Speaker 4: That's why Notre Dame is not in this thing. But like,

2293
01:54:08,840 --> 01:54:11,760
Speaker 4: outside of those games, they're not a whole lot for

2294
01:54:11,840 --> 01:54:13,600
Speaker 4: either team. If you look at that and play the

2295
01:54:13,640 --> 01:54:16,240
Speaker 4: game with Miami, like outside of that Notre Dame win,

2296
01:54:17,400 --> 01:54:20,640
Speaker 4: what is fearsome on that schedule? You know they're not

2297
01:54:20,720 --> 01:54:23,920
Speaker 4: a whole lot. It's an acc schedule and you're you're

2298
01:54:23,960 --> 01:54:27,679
Speaker 4: playing like a bad Florida State team and like South Florida,

2299
01:54:27,760 --> 01:54:30,720
Speaker 4: and it's like it's a big shoulder shrug, like in

2300
01:54:30,840 --> 01:54:33,960
Speaker 4: terms of what they've been through and how they've been tested,

2301
01:54:34,320 --> 01:54:36,920
Speaker 4: they's a much bigger test today against Texas A and M.

2302
01:54:37,120 --> 01:54:41,440
Speaker 4: So maybe the lack of a gauntlet shows up in

2303
01:54:41,520 --> 01:54:43,920
Speaker 4: a bad way for either team today. It is a

2304
01:54:44,000 --> 01:54:46,840
Speaker 4: crazy game, it really is. It's a wild matchup. I

2305
01:54:46,880 --> 01:54:49,800
Speaker 4: could see it going any which way because both of

2306
01:54:49,840 --> 01:54:52,120
Speaker 4: these teams to a degree are psychotic, you know, and

2307
01:54:52,240 --> 01:54:54,880
Speaker 4: they both have strengths and they both have obvious weaknesses.

2308
01:54:55,560 --> 01:54:57,840
Speaker 4: So I think it's gonna be back and I think

2309
01:54:57,840 --> 01:54:59,680
Speaker 4: it could be completely wide down.

2310
01:55:00,200 --> 01:55:01,920
Speaker 3: Well no, and so we went to two and a half,

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01:55:01,960 --> 01:55:05,480
Speaker 3: and then people bet came Yeah, yeah, we're gonna We've

2312
01:55:05,480 --> 01:55:07,520
Speaker 3: been destined the close three on this number the whole week.

2313
01:55:08,280 --> 01:55:10,839
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2314
01:55:10,840 --> 01:55:12,160
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Speaker 2: Through and.

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Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio. All right, we got some picks to make.

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Speaker 2: Let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Rapid fire.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Jared, we start with you.

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Speaker 7: What do you like.

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Speaker 2: I know what I'm getting Brian for Christmas.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be a shirt that says fake Bama. I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna deliver it to them.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be I will proudly wear that will I

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Speaker 2: might have to wear it if they lose the in

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Speaker 2: a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 3: All right, we've been talking about this Miami game a lot.

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01:57:35,760 --> 01:57:37,360
Speaker 3: The number has been moving around. I got three and

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01:57:37,400 --> 01:57:38,720
Speaker 3: a half earlier in the week. It was two and

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01:57:38,800 --> 01:57:40,520
Speaker 3: a half this morning. Now it's back to three. I

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Speaker 3: like Miami in the game. Do I like three instead

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Speaker 3: of three and a half? No, but I'll give you three.

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01:57:45,080 --> 01:57:46,920
Speaker 3: If they lose by three and we push well, then

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Speaker 3: so be it. So Mimi plus three my first bet.

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01:57:49,720 --> 01:57:51,200
Speaker 3: I think Old Mis is gonna come out like a

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Speaker 3: bad out of Hell today. I like the first half

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Speaker 3: team total over. That bet is not available at MGM,

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01:57:56,120 --> 01:57:57,640
Speaker 3: so I'll just give you the over fifty seven and

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01:57:57,680 --> 01:58:00,000
Speaker 3: a half in the game because I think you're gonna

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Speaker 3: see tu Lane also run it effectively. I like their

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Speaker 3: offensive line. I think Ole Mis is gonna be really

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Speaker 3: fired up for this game in Oxford with the lan

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Speaker 3: Kip and Drama. Will give me the over fifty seven

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Speaker 3: and a half, and I think Jmu keeps things just close.

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Speaker 2: Enough in the first half. I'll take Jamie plus twelve

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Speaker 2: and a half in the first half tonight against Oregon.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully they keep it nice and still all right.

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Speaker 2: I like the Commander's plus seven. I'm gonna go to

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Speaker 2: the NFL and then I'll will i will whittle my

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Speaker 2: way back to college football. But Commanders plus seven, I

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01:58:29,600 --> 01:58:32,080
Speaker 2: think Philly is over inflated right now. That was a

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Speaker 2: huge thumping they put on the Raiders, but I do

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Speaker 2: not think that the Eagles are that good. Plus they

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Speaker 2: got a banged up O line, So yeah, I'm riding

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Speaker 2: with the points with Washington. I'm taking the under on

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01:58:43,720 --> 01:58:46,800
Speaker 2: the first half Miami Texas A and M game. I

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01:58:46,840 --> 01:58:49,360
Speaker 2: think it's gonna be a sleepy first half for the

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Speaker 2: A and M offense. I think Miami their defense is

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Speaker 2: better than people think and they'll keep it close. So

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Speaker 2: give me under twenty three and a half first half

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Speaker 2: between the Gators and the Aggies, and I'm taking the over.

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01:59:03,440 --> 01:59:07,000
Speaker 2: In the jmu Organ game, I think James Madison is

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01:59:07,120 --> 01:59:09,360
Speaker 2: going to score. I don't think it's gonna be all

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Speaker 2: that often, but I do think that they're gonna unload.

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01:59:12,360 --> 01:59:15,440
Speaker 2: They're gonna be hyper aggressive. I think they're going to

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01:59:15,680 --> 01:59:19,920
Speaker 2: try to empty the kitchen sink against the Ducks, and

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Speaker 2: I think that Oregan's gonna score a ton of points

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Speaker 2: on the Duke. So I'll take the over forty five

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Speaker 2: and a half. There, All right, are you sitting down

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Speaker 2: for this? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually agree with both of you guys.

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Speaker 2: Wow, we have like a Gregorian chant sound effect.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'm on Miami A and m under twenty

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Speaker 4: three and a half in the first half. I appreciate

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Speaker 4: that Chris PHERVEETI angelic singing voice right there. Yeah, I

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Speaker 4: just don't think it's gonna be points galore in this

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01:59:51,240 --> 01:59:52,920
Speaker 4: first half. I think christ Ball is gonna be a

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Speaker 4: little bit conservative. Both defenses can you know, bend but

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Speaker 4: not break type thing, and I just don't think points

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Speaker 4: are gonna be easy to come by.

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Speaker 2: Early on.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go Gerard Pringle over forty one and a

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Speaker 4: half rushing yards to Miami running back, and then from

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Speaker 4: my final act, give me the Ducks minus twenty and

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Speaker 4: a half.

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Speaker 2: This is such a step up in way class. I

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Speaker 2: don't expect Jamie to d