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Speaker 1: I am Chad Melman, Chief Content Officer of the Action Network.

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Speaker 1: I'm joined as always by my co host, my companion,

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Speaker 1: my compadre, my BFF Professional Better Assignment Hunter and os

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Speaker 2: Hello, Chad, did you enjoy that USA basketball? My friend?

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Speaker 1: I'm so sad the Olympics are over. I love that

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Speaker 1: you and I talked about gold Zone, which it felt

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Speaker 1: like we were just getting into rhythm for NFL season.

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Speaker 1: But man, I have watched every angle that anyone has

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Speaker 1: put on social media about that last Steph Curry shot.

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Speaker 1: He was so pure and so joyful and so good

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Speaker 1: at something that is so hard. It is exactly why

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Speaker 1: he belongs in the converse for top ten players of

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Speaker 1: all time. And I feel like if there was any debate,

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Speaker 1: this game settled it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And it was also just like the cherry on the

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Speaker 4: top right of this last twenty years of Lebron Durant

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Speaker 4: to Steph. It's like, if you're an NBA fan, those

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Speaker 4: were the guys, And I know, I think it's tops.

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Speaker 2: They're putting out some type of card with the three

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, everyone's going.

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Speaker 4: Crazy right about it. I get it, Like it's if

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Speaker 4: you're a basketball fan. I know basketball has plenty of

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Speaker 4: haters and it's fun to be a hater, but the

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Speaker 4: true basketball fans that's like, those are the guys like

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Speaker 4: we know that. Not that we're going about to go

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Speaker 4: to a down period here, but we really had this

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Speaker 4: crazy run of these crazy stars. And you know, Steph Curry,

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Speaker 4: he just when he wants to be the greatest shooter

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Speaker 4: ever he can be, and it's like no one could

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Speaker 4: just turn on and off. If you watched like you said,

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Speaker 4: you watch those highlights he I don't think he touched

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Speaker 4: the ball from like midway to the third quarter to

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Speaker 4: the final three minutes of the game, and then every

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Speaker 4: time he was just carrying the ball up the court

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Speaker 4: and it was just like he knew this was his moment.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, as just a fan of you know, the

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Speaker 4: NBA and everything it is, you know, that's not that

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Speaker 4: he's my favorite player. I think i'd still have Lebron's

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Speaker 4: my favorite player. But Steph Curry, man, like you said,

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Speaker 4: it's you kind of put himself on that top ten list.

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Speaker 2: It's it's hard to take them off fit.

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Speaker 1: Now we have more late breaking news than the Americans

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Speaker 1: winning the Gold medal.

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Speaker 3: For today's show, which is.

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Speaker 1: The sixth installment in our annual NFL Division preview series,

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Speaker 1: we are discussing the NFC East Today, Simon, we are jooled.

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Speaker 3: By our favorite of the favorites regular.

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Speaker 1: Guests, My antagonist on our Sunday morning NFL preview show

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Speaker 1: convinced me, which we'll start again with the first Sunday

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Speaker 1: of the NFL season, available on YouTube and the Action

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Speaker 1: Network up. He is the co host of the Action

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Speaker 1: Network podcast. He is Chris raybaond Ray.

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Speaker 3: What's going on?

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Speaker 6: Brother?

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Speaker 5: What's up? Guys?

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Speaker 6: I actually got a question for both of you, since

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Speaker 6: since we're talking about basketball, would you rather go to

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Speaker 6: a Rams Chargers preseason game or a regular season Sparks

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 6: With keeping in mind that I haven't seen Angel Reese yet,

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Speaker 6: I've seen Caitlin Clark play already.

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Speaker 1: One w NBA game. Hey, I've been to it. I've

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Speaker 1: been to a Chargers Rams preseason game with you, and

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Speaker 1: that stadium is amazing. Loved it, totally loved it. But like,

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Speaker 1: there's there's too much fun stuff happening with the w

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Speaker 1: NBA right now, and the level of intensity is going

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Speaker 1: action and crowd is going to be better. I'd like

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Speaker 4: I mean obvious, I'm gonna go pre season football if

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Speaker 4: preseason football. But you really can't go wrong either way.

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Speaker 4: But I'm a little biased just because won that stadium,

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Speaker 4: and I just Chad knows.

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Speaker 2: I love watching the second stringers.

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Speaker 4: It's like it's fun in person, seeing the guys in person,

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Speaker 2: So yeah, definitely a tough choice by go football.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's going to be made for me

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Speaker 6: I'll probably end up going to the preseason game. But

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Speaker 1: Probably that's important enough for you to get up at

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Speaker 3: That's what I want to.

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Speaker 6: Go visitors in time, my couple of my boys from

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Speaker 5: So yeah, it's just very unlike me.

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Speaker 6: I would probably be just knocked out sleeping on a

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Speaker 5: You're absolutely correct.

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Speaker 1: We have very important news to discuss before we get

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Speaker 1: into discussing the NFC East today it was announced breaking news.

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Speaker 1: We're recording this on Wednesday afternoon. JJ McCarthy out for

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Speaker 1: the year, torn meniscus for the Vikings. On the show

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Speaker 1: last week, Simon and I talked about the NFC North.

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Speaker 3: The Vikings six and a half to the under. We

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Speaker 3: liked it. We also liked potentially the Vikings for the

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Speaker 3: worst record. Raybon.

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Speaker 1: I know you and Stock you talked about Vikings potentially

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Speaker 1: the last team to win a game on the Action

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Speaker 1: Network podcast going back in May. So first for you, Raybon,

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Speaker 1: how does this impact any of your thinking about the

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Speaker 1: Vikings overvalue, undervalue knowing sam Donold's going to be the quarterback,

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Speaker 3: How does this change things for you? If at all?

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Speaker 6: It really doesn't shout to my boy Chris Thompson, who

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Speaker 6: was just text to be saying, and he's a Vikings fan,

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Speaker 6: he was saying, you know, I can't believe the market

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Speaker 6: total is still at six and a half, and I said, honestly,

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Speaker 6: Donald is a known quantity and McCarthy does have more

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Speaker 5: But as a rookie especially, you know when that.

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Speaker 6: We kind of knew was gonna miss it was not

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Speaker 6: I mean, if I'm betting a Vikings win total, I'm

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Speaker 6: like nine, ten to eleven playoff contenders and the Vikings

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Speaker 6: In my opinion, I think they're a worse team in

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Speaker 6: to have a rough go at it now, But maybe

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Speaker 6: we get some Nick Mhens and Jared Hall at some

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Speaker 6: point too if Donald struggles, So just more reason to

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Speaker 4: Simon, I mean, it's pretty simple for me, Chad. The

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Speaker 4: only thing I really fear in life is the unknown,

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Speaker 4: and the unknown.

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Speaker 2: Was JJ That's that's gone. I know what Sam Donald is.

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Speaker 4: I think Evan Abrams just tweeted out, you know, since

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Speaker 4: he was drafted in twenty eighteen, he's the worst quarterback

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Speaker 4: against the spreading all football.

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Speaker 2: He's twenty two thirty three and one, Chad, Like, I

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Speaker 2: get it.

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Speaker 4: People want to be like, oh, he went to Kyl

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Speaker 4: Shannon and QB Whisper. He ain't no QB Whisper. He

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Speaker 4: ain't Sean McVay.

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Speaker 2: This.

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Speaker 4: This is a man that runs a great system. Jimmy

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Speaker 4: g left the forty nine ers. He just turned back

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Speaker 4: into poop. That's why I think Sam Donald's going to be.

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Speaker 2: Like he might, he might win a game here and there.

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Speaker 4: Right, we've seen him string together a couple of good quarters.

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Speaker 4: His issue is long term consistency, and once it goes bad,

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Speaker 4: it starts to go really bad, Like he unravels.

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Speaker 2: He unravels really bad.

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Speaker 4: So I get if Vikings fans are dooming gloom, because

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Speaker 4: how would you not be excited about j J. What

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Speaker 4: are he just in the preseason? Even if preseasons is

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Speaker 4: you can be excited to be like, well, after one turnover,

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Speaker 4: the kid came out through two touch shuns in a

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Speaker 4: row through for one hundred yards.

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Speaker 2: That's exciting.

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Speaker 4: I mean Sam Donald came out there, went fourth eight

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Speaker 4: and threw an incompletion on fourth and two in the

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Speaker 2: That was that's him.

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Speaker 4: Like, So that's that's why I get why Mostky fans

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Speaker 2: But I think Sean said it like you.

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Speaker 4: Will see punnets in the media, and I know plenty

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Speaker 4: of professional betters who are like, they want to give

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Speaker 4: him this last chance, Sam Donald, this last runner. It's

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Speaker 4: like he could have that Baker season, that Gino Smith season.

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Speaker 4: And I think Christi has said it, it's like in

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Speaker 4: that division in the NFC, the wins just aren't there.

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Speaker 4: The competition's too stiff. I don't I don't see how

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Speaker 4: crazy because you know Smith went ninety eight. I will

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Speaker 4: go absolutely crazy if somehow Sam Donald gets nine to

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Speaker 4: eight with this team. So I'm feeling pretty good in

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Speaker 4: my position chat.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I am.

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Speaker 4: I am shocked. The market has not reacted at all.

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Speaker 4: People people seem to believe in Sam Donald. I just

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Speaker 4: I'm a total seller on this kid.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Whoop, Like of all the times you

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Speaker 5: I saw.

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Speaker 1: Stucky and Raybon recently, and I was sitting with them,

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Speaker 1: It's astonishing to me. All right, Reminder, we're going to

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Speaker 1: the nfcas in nineteen of the past twenty one years,

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Speaker 1: ninety one percent of the seasons an NFL team has

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Speaker 1: gone from worst to first in its division. During our previews,

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Speaker 1: we think has a really good shot, the Bengals. I

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Speaker 1: know Raybon also thinks the Panthers are undervalued and might

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Speaker 3: We're going to run through.

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Speaker 1: Its Eagles short starts to win the division. Right now,

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Speaker 1: they are fifteen to one to win the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: They are at plus one hundred to win the division.

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Speaker 1: Their win total is ten and a half. As everybody knows,

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Speaker 1: I'd like to go through strength of schedule according to

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Speaker 1: Futures Markets for season win totals, the line ranking according

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Speaker 1: to Pro Football Focus, and the d line ranking according

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Speaker 1: to Pro Football Focus. Right now, Eagles have the ninth

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Speaker 1: easiest schedule, second best line rank.

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Speaker 3: Even without Kelsey.

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Speaker 1: People are hoping that Cam Jurgens can move from guard

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Speaker 1: they still have Jordan Mailata. They have Lane Johnson, third

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Speaker 1: and thirteenth grader overall of their positions. Big question, how

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Speaker 1: effectively can Jurgens be replacing the Hall of Famer d Line.

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Speaker 1: Final part of the roundup, support went out for Fletcher Cox,

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Speaker 1: brilliant career, six time pro bowler, super Bowl champ. Define

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Speaker 1: this Philly d Line such a character. We loved Jalen

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Speaker 1: Carter last year as signon in his defensive Rookie of

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Speaker 1: That was a bit of a kick in the dick.

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Speaker 3: The real question here is ken Jordan Davis takeover.

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Speaker 1: Is the dominant player Fletcher Cox was and can Bryce

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Speaker 1: While Simon is a massive Eagles fan, you are rock

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Speaker 1: first crack at assessing the Eagles.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I like the Eagles.

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Speaker 6: I think the Eagles are the best bet to win

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Speaker 6: Washington has a long shot. So but if I'm betting

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Speaker 6: any one of these teams, I feel most confident in

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Speaker 6: the Eagles, and that's because they addressed what I think

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Speaker 6: really is. I know you talked about, you know, some

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Speaker 6: of the changes in the trenches, but the Eagles are

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Speaker 5: I think they'll be okay.

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Speaker 6: They'll be somewhere from you know, good to too great,

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Speaker 6: last year. I know, I know Simon knows they couldn't

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Speaker 6: handle a Blitz. Jalen Hurst just had no idea what

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Speaker 6: Remember they had all that coordinator brain drain last year

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Speaker 6: now they go out to get Kellen Moore, who was

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Speaker 6: that's really the question. Can he solved those issues for

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Speaker 6: think everything else is is gonna be cape for Philadelphia.

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Speaker 6: They addressed the secondary, the cornerback situation, which I think

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Speaker 6: the draft. You got Gardner Johnson back there at safety.

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Speaker 6: You know the offense, you got got Barkley, good running backs,

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Speaker 6: but handling the blitz. And also that third wide receiver spot,

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Speaker 6: just because you know, Brown and Smith haven't really missed

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Speaker 6: more important that you know that number three spot. And

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Speaker 6: and it is Paris Campbell. So that could get a

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Speaker 6: little dicey for Philadelphia because you would want their third

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Speaker 6: do think Howie Roseman addressed the roster as well as

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Speaker 6: I'm high in Philadelphia. I think this is the year

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Speaker 6: you're kind of way back on Dallas a little bit.

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Speaker 6: We know how that goes in the NFC East. But

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Speaker 6: the Eagles are favored in thirteen of their seventeen games,

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Speaker 3: Simon, I imagine you have a million thoughts on this team.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 1: I want to start with Raybound's comment about the blitz.

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Speaker 1: Do you see that is the key they need to

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Speaker 1: fix or is there something else?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 4: I think they've fixed that. I just think it was

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Speaker 4: all like again, I can't move Syrian.

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Speaker 2: He kept his job.

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Speaker 4: That was that was so fireable. The fact that he

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Speaker 4: couldn't get that adjustment, they're kill him more. Everything you've seen,

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Speaker 4: when there was no emotion, the blitz would set up

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Speaker 4: and they already.

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Speaker 2: Knew what we were running.

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Speaker 4: Like that, we were running four to five different plays,

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Speaker 4: so I threw out last year. My biggest issue was

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Speaker 4: always going to be can we cover the middle of

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Speaker 2: He cam Driggen step in and command.

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Speaker 4: This offense, because you just said to Kelsey, he's a

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Speaker 4: like I think I saw a quote twodays ago, it's

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Speaker 4: gonna be weird not having the anchor, the man that's

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Speaker 4: been there for so long. But Cam Dring is his

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Speaker 4: handpicked by who other than Kelsey has been in practice

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Speaker 4: every day working with them, training with him, and he.

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Speaker 2: Was our guard for the last two years.

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Speaker 4: So it's like the guy who knows the offense, he

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Speaker 4: knows what's to run, he knows the calls. It's just obviously,

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Speaker 4: like you just said, Chat, it's an added pressure to it.

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Speaker 4: But my biggest issue with this team will always be

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Speaker 4: the linebacker position. Howie he goes sheep in different areas.

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Speaker 4: That's his that's his move, and it works right. How

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Speaker 4: He's won the best teams of football and that's where

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Speaker 4: he likes to go. Cheapest middle linebacker and outside linebacker.

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Speaker 4: I think Fangs is the one that said it. The

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Speaker 4: most important position in the NFL the last three years

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Speaker 4: has been outside linebacker. You look at the best teams

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Speaker 4: of football, Chat, they usually have a really good outside linebacker.

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Speaker 4: It's a big deal. So you know, did they fix

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Speaker 4: those issues yet? It's well, we'll see if they can

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Speaker 4: cover the middle of the field. That's my only real

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Speaker 4: who the Eagles third receiver is on offense. That's a

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Speaker 4: great place to be. I'm feeling pretty good if that's

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Speaker 4: one of our big issues, our third receiver.

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Speaker 2: So it's like this.

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Speaker 4: Team is built to win now, and the NFC we're

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Speaker 4: all praying I already said it last week.

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Speaker 2: We're praying this how you trade goes down.

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Speaker 4: If you're a fan of a team in the NFC,

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Speaker 4: you want Ayuk off that team, go send him to nowhere.

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Speaker 2: Steelers, let him go play with them.

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Speaker 4: Please get him off the forty Niners because he is

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Speaker 4: one of the blessed the best blocking wide receivers on football.

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Speaker 2: And no one gets up.

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Speaker 4: I mean, his his success rate of getting an open

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Speaker 4: how good Ayuk is. Even when he's being double bracket,

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Speaker 4: he's still he still finds hold in the zone. So

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Speaker 4: this Eagles team right now, to me, if it all

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Speaker 4: forty nine ers team and put the lines right behind them,

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Speaker 4: cause it's like fight out. The foreigners are having all

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Speaker 4: these issues Chad, and it's I keep being like, well,

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Speaker 4: it's not that big of a deal. What are we

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Speaker 4: three weeks out? Now this is starting to become a

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Speaker 4: big deal. We saw Nick Bosa held out. He wasn't

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Speaker 4: still I still need time chat. It's like I don't

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Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting you mentioned the linebackers. I remember

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Speaker 1: I can't remember if they were short favorites or short

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Speaker 1: dogs in that game. Okay, yeah, I think so too,

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Speaker 1: but we still like them as favorites. The reason we

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Speaker 3: That was an achilles heel for that team all season long.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned fangs Vic Fangio, new defensive coordinator, legendary, respected, beloved.

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Speaker 1: I got to think he will find ways to mask

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Speaker 1: these deficiencies a lot better than the sort of buffet

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Speaker 1: ending with Matt Patricia, you got you gotta believe that,

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Speaker 1: Like in any business, you sort of have to decide

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Speaker 1: something is going to be and you have to believe

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Speaker 2: That's what I mean. There was no fix.

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Speaker 4: So like this year, this team, when I'm looking at them,

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Speaker 4: I'm just like, to me, in this division, these are

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Speaker 4: only the only division metach I've been right on every

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Speaker 4: year we've done this show, and we're not even doing

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Speaker 4: anything special people. We've literally gone Dallas Eagles, Dallas Eagles

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Speaker 4: since I joined the show.

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Speaker 2: Last year, we used a lot of our luck, cup.

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Speaker 4: I cannot believe we hit that Dallas bet and we thought,

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Speaker 4: we joked about we thought it was dead.

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Speaker 2: I think it was true.

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Speaker 4: Eagles were ten to one. I think we were just

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Speaker 4: coming off back to back really bad losses.

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Speaker 4: We're like, oh, well, basically they need to win out

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Speaker 4: and maybe lose one game. The Eagles need to lose

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00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,159
Speaker 4: out and maybe only win one game. And that's exactly

441
00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,800
Speaker 4: what happened. So this year I feel way, way confident

442
00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,040
Speaker 4: betting this number. The only negative here is we bet one.

443
00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,000
Speaker 4: We bet plus one three plus one twenty. I mean

444
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:03,520
Speaker 4: for the last two months and then just in the

445
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,159
Speaker 4: last three weeks. This line is now up to minus

446
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:07,959
Speaker 4: one twenty. Like you just said a lot of books,

447
00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,359
Speaker 4: so you miss that a little bit. Still love the

448
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 4: over obviously ten and a half. Don't hate it if

449
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,439
Speaker 4: you want to put fifteen to one. But I liked

450
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,800
Speaker 4: I did what Chad did last year. If you listen earlier,

451
00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,080
Speaker 4: I like the Chiefs. Obviously I'm betting on the three peet.

452
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,960
Speaker 4: I love the bet on History Eagles Chiefs matchup Super Bowl.

453
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,120
Speaker 2: I got it at forty to one, So.

454
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 4: If you want to do something fun like that, you

455
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,520
Speaker 4: can do that if you don't like taking the fifty

456
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Speaker 4: to one. But I have no issue taking the fifteen

457
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 4: to one. But I did Chad's but I took them

458
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,120
Speaker 4: forty to one against the Chiefs. I put another bet

459
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:37,720
Speaker 4: on them against the Bengals. I think it was fifty

460
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:39,720
Speaker 4: five to one. Egos Bengals.

461
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Speaker 2: So that's a fun way to bet that stuff if

462
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Speaker 2: you want longer routes.

463
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Speaker 1: Yeah, just a preview for people who will listen to

464
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Speaker 1: our Best Bets episode, which will be the last week

465
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Speaker 1: before NFL season kicks off.

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Speaker 3: Simon and I will run through sort.

467
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Speaker 1: Of our favorite futures bets, and annually one of my

468
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Speaker 1: favorite bets is round robining the best odds.

469
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Speaker 3: Below usually twelve to one or under.

470
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Speaker 1: In ten or the last past eleven years, the teams

471
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Speaker 1: with those odds have met in the Super Bowl. So

472
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Speaker 1: last year it was the Chiefs and the Niners. Both

473
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 1: had lower than twelve to one odds, but the payout

474
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Speaker 1: on their Super Bowl win with something like thirty five

475
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Speaker 1: to one. So I will bet that and that is

476
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Speaker 1: in Evan Abrams special. I'm going to expand it this

477
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,639
Speaker 1: year because I actually like, I think the Bengals are

478
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:29,360
Speaker 1: thirteen to one.

479
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:30,640
Speaker 3: The Eagles are fifteen.

480
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 1: To one, so we'll get into that for sure, all right,

481
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 1: all right, Speaking with the Cowboys, I can't think of

482
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Speaker 1: a team that I'm fading harder than the Cowboys that

483
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 1: has mismanaged everything since before kickoff of their route. In

484
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 1: a loss to the Packers in the playoffs where all

485
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 1: three of us were all over the Packers as seven

486
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 1: point underdogs, that game was over with about three minutes

487
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 1: past Dallas nineteen to one and win the Super Bowl

488
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 1: plus one fifty to win the Division ten and a

489
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 1: half win total. Eleventh hardest strength of schedule O line

490
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,879
Speaker 1: is tenth, entirely because of Zach Martin and Tyler Smith.

491
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 1: Their tackles are suspect with Toront Smith and Terrence Steele.

492
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 1: Toron Smith gone, Terrence Steele coming off a down year.

493
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 1: They also have a new center. D line is sixth,

494
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 1: But a lot of this is about Micah Parsons and

495
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,160
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence, right, So between the two of them they

496
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 1: make up for a lot of issues in the rest

497
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 1: of that defensive line. Everything about this team screams flashy

498
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 1: over bet overvalue. Built For the regular season, Dak barely

499
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 1: made our top ten list of quarterback We hate Mike McCarthy.

500
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 1: Now cdee Lamb is holding out Simon, I hate this team.

501
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Speaker 8: I want to buck on this What do you say?

502
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 8: I want to buy it tonight with ten percent of

503
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 8: the day around here in Jersey where I come from,

504
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 8: Let's call the juice the juice break.

505
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Speaker 4: It's all negative, like everything about It's like even their

506
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 4: own fans have not been going to their camp, which

507
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 4: is shocking. Like usually they're always to sell out all

508
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 4: the fans show up, and this year even them are

509
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:19,640
Speaker 4: not that they're out on the team. I think they're

510
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 4: just out on Jerry Jones, right. I think they're pissed

511
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 4: it in because it's like, why did you not? Why

512
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 4: do you not just get this done with Dak and

513
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 4: cd Why did you not just get this done with

514
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 4: It's like the options out there aren'tna be much better

515
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 4: unless you totally tank the next two years and try

516
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 4: to find your own With Caleb Williams.

517
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Speaker 2: It's like these.

518
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,439
Speaker 4: Guys just don't pop up. It's it's pretty insane with

519
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 4: the move they're making right now. We already talked about

520
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,400
Speaker 4: like Dak has all the power if he walks this year.

521
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 2: They got like over fifty million in dead cap next year.

522
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Speaker 4: That's that's a crazy number to think they're just gonna

523
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 4: have a guy walking that that kind of money's in

524
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Speaker 4: the book.

525
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 2: So every day I wake up.

526
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Speaker 4: I honestly feel like I fall for the trap of,

527
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 4: oh they just signed Cdo they just signed Dak to

528
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 4: a big contract? Because I've just been wait for to happen,

529
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,400
Speaker 4: and it just feels like it's not happening. Every day

530
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 4: the sound bites get worse from Jerry Jones jat so

531
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 4: the team on the field, I think he nailed it

532
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 4: right there. They have some questions down the offensive line

533
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 4: which we haven't had in the past. You know, if

534
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 4: if CD does miss time, who are they throwing to

535
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 4: go through their depth tra to wide receiver. It's a

536
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 4: lot of really heavy questions there. So they desperately need

537
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 4: CD back, And you know, I don't I don't know

538
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 4: if Chris loves this guy, but I think his name's Rico,

539
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 4: this running back.

540
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 2: I kind of love him.

541
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 4: I kind of think he's gonna be the guy over

542
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 4: is Ekal Elliott, and there are touches there to be had.

543
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 4: But defensively, I think you talked about chat. It feels

544
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 4: like they extremely overachieved last year and they're gonna pay

545
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 4: the piper this upcoming season just because they haven't really

546
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 4: improved that defensive side at all. They just kind of

547
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 4: rolled it, let it ride back. And you know, I'm

548
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 4: looking at this team ten and.

549
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 2: A half I've just talked to.

550
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 4: I want to say, I've spoken to every book maker

551
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 4: that you know in the greater Tri State area over

552
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 4: the last two months. It's all under money on this team.

553
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 4: They've just been getting tons and tons of money on

554
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 4: this win total. So this is gonna be the sportsbook's

555
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 4: larger positions on win totals. They're gonna need this teams over.

556
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 4: I just think they had held the bad number. Chad, Like,

557
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 4: to me, this ten and a half made sense last

558
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 4: year when this division was so weird. Yeah, the division

559
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 4: feels like it's improved like tremendously from the commanders of

560
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 4: the Giants. So you know, to me, ten and a

561
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 4: half still too high of a number. I do like

562
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,160
Speaker 4: that under and obviously we're.

563
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 2: Not touching anything for them divisionally or Super Bowl ots.

564
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 1: This is a weird Everything about this is a weird

565
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 1: public number to me. The nineteen to one is a

566
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: public number. The plus one fifty is public, the ten

567
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 1: and a half is public.

568
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 3: It's all screaming.

569
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 1: Bookmakers are just looking to take advantage of people who

570
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 1: love the Cowboys.

571
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 4: Love the Cowboys. I feel like those people are gone

572
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 4: and they didn't adjust for that.

573
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 3: Ray Bon, are you about to tell us right now?

574
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 3: I love the Cowboys?

575
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:57,439
Speaker 6: Nah, I don't, but it is anytime the market is

576
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 6: so overwhelmingly negative, I think as a you kind to

577
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 6: have to at least consider, yeah, scary contrarian, yeah, the

578
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 6: other side. But for me, I just think the Cowboys

579
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 6: have a wide range of outcomes, because, for one, they're

580
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 6: still favored in fourteen of their seventeen games, but really

581
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 6: four of those.

582
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 5: Are essentially a pick them.

583
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 6: It's you know, the spread is minus one or some

584
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 6: some are even a pick them, depending what book you're

585
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 6: looking at.

586
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 5: So they there.

587
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 6: Is a situation like a scenario where the Cowboys finish

588
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 6: you know, nine and eight, eight and nine even especially remember,

589
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 6: you know, a couple of years ago, Dak Prescott missed

590
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 6: some games that's happened a couple of times. If they

591
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 6: was that, you know, Simon you said it, Ceedee Lamb's

592
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 6: really their only guy receiver. You know, Rico Daudo at

593
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 6: running back. I mean, I don't think he's going to

594
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 6: make a difference one way or another running backs generally, don't.

595
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,719
Speaker 6: You know Howard wasn't great last year coming off that

596
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 6: injury anyway, But I did. I did like what McCarthy

597
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 6: did somewhat down the stretch after the bye. They kind

598
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,479
Speaker 6: of went super pass heavy, But I don't know if

599
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 6: that's gonna be an option this year with just see

600
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 6: and remember, you know, it's it's not very likely that

601
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 6: CD continues to just not ever miss games due to

602
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 6: injury either. So I think this team is very fragile

603
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 6: with not bet any overs on them.

604
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 5: And I am.

605
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 6: Concerned about that tackle situation because you had Tchumadoga, the veteran,

606
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 6: getting snaps at left tackle and he looks like he

607
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 6: just got hurt.

608
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 5: So now you're gonna have to go with the with the.

609
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 6: Rookie guiton at left tackles and Chad you mentioned Steele

610
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 6: was pretty shaky. He ranked sixty ninth of eighty one

611
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 6: qualified tackles at Pro Football Focus in terms of their

612
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 6: grading last season. So Dak Prescott under pressure with just

613
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 6: one receiver that really is gonna be reliable, reliable, you

614
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 6: get open. I mean, maybe Jake Ferguson continues to step up,

615
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 6: but I just you know, they don't have the running game,

616
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 6: they have one bona fide receiver, they don't have tackles,

617
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 6: and the coach is shaky. So not a lot to

618
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 6: love for Dallas, especially when you put them side put

619
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 6: the Cowboys side by side against the Philadelphia Eagles. So yeah,

620
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 6: it's all about the Eagles this year. I think the

621
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 6: Cowboys could suffer from that NFC East first place jinx.

622
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've built a team that is designed to win

623
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: in the regular season over the past several years, and

624
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: I don't even think they're designed to do that now,

625
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: given the offensive line issues, given what's going on with

626
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: Ceddee Lamb. Like, let me give you some stats, right,

627
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: ce d Lamb is not only coming off one of

628
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: his best years, one of the best wide receiver seasons ever.

629
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: There have only been two seasons of receivers with one

630
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty plus receptions seventeen one hundred plus receiving

631
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: yards twelve plus receiving touchdowns twenty twenty one, Cooper Cup

632
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, c D.

633
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 3: Lamb.

634
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: If this guy's not in the field, they don't really

635
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: have probably about eighty percent of their passing offense. So

636
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: there's some serious issues there. And to my point about

637
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: the Cowboys being a regular season team, highest average win

638
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: toil of the past twenty years to not win a

639
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Cincinnati Bengals eight point one, San Francisco forty nine,

640
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: Ers eight point one, Minnesota Vikings eight point two, Falcons

641
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: eight point three, Chargers eight point nine, number one Dallas

642
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: Cowboys nine point two.

643
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 2: What a brittle list to be on. Damn, you've just

644
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 2: so much winning for not so much.

645
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:52,959
Speaker 6: I remember their last Super Bowl. That was like the

646
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 6: first Super Bowl that I as a kid. I really remember,

647
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 6: just the whole weed up to it, and you know,

648
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 6: watching the like simulate it with Madden in nineteen ninety

649
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 6: five and then they go out and just spank the Steelers.

650
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 6: Neil O'Donnell could not keep up with that Cowboy defense

651
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 6: and whatnot. But yeah, it's been it's been rough. And

652
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 6: you know, even Chad you mentioned a pass offense I mean,

653
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 6: Brandon Cooks is still there. We shouldn't just shit on him.

654
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 6: But he's he's gonna be thirty one, so he's a

655
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 6: tough time staying healthy, right, Yeah, I mean, well, not

656
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 6: necessarily healthy, but I think you worry about just because

657
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 6: he's a smaller guy and he has he has had

658
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 6: some good cussion issues. So yeah, he's not He's not

659
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Speaker 6: a guy that you necessarily expect to go back to

660
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 6: being the wide receiver one that he was at times

661
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Speaker 6: earlier in his careers. So yeah, there's just it's just

662
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 6: it just feels very fragile for the Cowboys this year.

663
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 3: True story, Raybon. I know I'm showing my age. I

664
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 3: covered that.

665
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Speaker 1: Steelers Cowboys Super Bowl and the NFC Championship game the

666
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: week before when I think it was Larry Brown had

667
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: multiple He did it well. He had an interception in

668
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: the AFC in the championship game, and then in the

669
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: next game, and I had to interview, I had to

670
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: write for Sports Illustrated a little sidebar about the play

671
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: that led to the interception in the NFC Championship game,

672
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: and I asked Antonio Freeman what the play was in

673
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: the locker room after the game. And I said to him, look,

674
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: I know you weren't on the field, but I saw

675
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: you standing next to home grin. Can you tell me

676
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: about the play? He goes, well, I wasn't on the field.

677
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, I know, but you know I need to

678
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: do a story about it.

679
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 3: He knew who I was.

680
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: I had been to Green Bay a bunch, and he goes,

681
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: you got to do a news chronicle for Sports Illustrated.

682
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I got to do a news chronicle.

683
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: And then he wouldn't answer my question. So I went

684
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: to Adam Timmerman, and Adam Timmerman started telling me what

685
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: everything was. I got everything I needed. Then Antonio Freeman

686
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,239
Speaker 1: came up to me in the locker room before I

687
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,719
Speaker 1: was leaving and started to get in my face and like,

688
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: what am I going to do?

689
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 3: Right? But Adam Timmerman pulled him back from trying to

690
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 3: kill me in the locker room.

691
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 5: What that? First?

692
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 6: Of all, great story, And those are some amazing name drops,

693
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 6: like I was more Robert Brooks, Dorsey Levin's guy myself

694
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 6: on that that stand. But Waymond was a beast too.

695
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: Hey, Dorsey Levins. I was on the sideline for the Patriots.

696
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: Packers super Bowl that the Packers won, and Dorsey Levins

697
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: knocked me over when he ran He ran out of

698
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: bounds and I was behind a cameraman and we both

699
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: got knocked over. And I didn't feel great the rest

700
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: of that night and was in New Orleans.

701
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 2: I'll just say, And he didn't even feel you.

702
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 3: I don't like, he didn't feel anything right.

703
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: And so I go to my back to my hotel

704
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: that night, super late night, right and I'm not feeling great.

705
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: I start puking the rest of the night. I think

706
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,959
Speaker 1: I might have had a concussion, Like he knocked the

707
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: fuck out of me on the sideline.

708
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Speaker 4: So I don't know if you get to hear my

709
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 4: phone going crazy, Chad. Apparently Jordan Addison, the number two

710
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 4: receiver on the Vikings, just went down. The injuries being

711
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 4: helped off the field by trainers. It's like truly a

712
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 4: season from hell for the Vikings fans right now.

713
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 8: Wow.

714
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel terrible for the Vikings. I feel terrible

715
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: for Kevin O'Connell. He seems like a really good coach.

716
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: I want him to.

717
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:19,760
Speaker 3: Be able to succeed there.

718
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Speaker 1: I hope this doesn't become a season where everything is

719
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: so bad they feel like they have to start over,

720
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: give him the chance to make some magic with what

721
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: this roster is becoming.

722
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 2: I think they will.

723
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Speaker 4: I think yeah, I don't think they'd move on from

724
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 4: after this year, even if they went very terrible.

725
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 2: I don't think they'd move on.

726
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 6: Hey, if we got no Jordan Addison for any length

727
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 6: of time, we already probably won't have TJ.

728
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 5: Howkinson to start the year.

729
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 6: Ed Addison could get suspended even if he's not, yeah, hurt.

730
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 6: So the fact that we're also out on j JJ's

731
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 6: out means if Darnald struggles, we're gonna.

732
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Speaker 5: Get us some Nick Moens and you know who.

733
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Speaker 6: That's really good for Justin Jefferson to wed the in

734
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 6: receiving yards because Nick Mullins will throw five hundred air

735
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 6: yards in a game complete like three hundred and fifty

736
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 6: of them throw four picks. But JJ will will put

737
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 6: up like one hundred. JJ. If you take out the

738
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 6: game that he got hurt and a game that he

739
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 6: came back. Last year, JJ averaged one hundred and twenty

740
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 6: seven receiving yards per game. If you do that over

741
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,439
Speaker 6: the full season, you're running away with that crown. So yeah,

742
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 6: Justin Jefferson definitely might be worth a bet here, depending

743
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 6: on what's going on with Addison, because he would be

744
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 6: an absolute target hog, even if even if the quarterback

745
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 6: is substandard.

746
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Speaker 1: Washington Commanders, I feel like I'm misreading something here. The

747
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: Washington Commander is one hundred and twenty one one hundred

748
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: and twenty to one to win the Super Bowl plus

749
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: eight hundred to win the Division. Six and a half

750
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: is the win total. Thirteenth easiest strength of schedule O

751
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: Line rank twenty seven. Sixty percent of the offensive line

752
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: is new at left tackle, protecting Jaden Daniels blind side.

753
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: They are relying on a career backup in Cornelius Lucas

754
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: defensive line nineteenth. There was a time where this was

755
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: a top four defensive line with Montes Sweat and Chase Young,

756
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 1: not that long ago. I think this line is too high,

757
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 1: even with their current talent level. The big signing Dorrance

758
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: Armstrong from Dallas, whose career eye in sacks during six

759
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: years eight and a half knew everything coach QB O

760
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: line D line coordinators. I mean, I don't get the

761
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: market numbers here. I don't understand why. Like Raybau, you

762
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: already said the Commanders would be your sort of long

763
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: shot here. None of this makes sense to me, all.

764
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 6: Right, So, first of all, the Commanders were four and

765
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 6: thirteen last year. They employed Ron Rivera, Eric b Enemy,

766
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 6: and Jack del Rio as their head coach and offensive

767
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 6: and defensive coordinators, respectively, So they needed everything new.

768
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Speaker 5: So that's a good thing.

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Speaker 6: Second of all, the main difference, if you want to

770
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Speaker 6: get really simple, between Washington and the New York Giants,

771
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 6: is that Washington has a chance to have a quarterback.

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Speaker 5: It's as simple as that. That's football.

773
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Speaker 6: Both of these rosters shaky, like you said, Chad, although

774
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Speaker 6: I'm I think Washington has the better roster than the Giants.

775
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 6: I mean, yes, the offensive line is maybe a little

776
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 6: bit unsung, but it's not a disaster, like I think

777
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 6: it can be serviceable, like you know somewhere around week average.

778
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 6: You know, they got Terry McLaurin, who's already established. The

779
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 6: Giants have a rookie trying to fill that role, Jayden Daniels,

780
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,720
Speaker 6: I would say, already better than Daniel Jones.

781
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 5: The Giants backup quarterback. They can't even get that right.

782
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 6: Drew Locke look terrible in his preseason snapped the Giants

783
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 6: have no secondary. Washington has no secondary. But I think

784
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 6: Washington has more upside because you still have you know,

785
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 6: maybe Forbes can get it together. It was the first

786
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 6: round pick you got. I struggled to pronounce his name.

787
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 6: But the flat corn who they took in a Secon

788
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,240
Speaker 6: round out of Michigan this year, Cyrus still I believe.

789
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 6: I think it's how you pronounce it. But they do

790
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 6: have some upside here. Jeremy Chin is an interesting guy.

791
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 6: You know, he flashed in Carolina at times. So just

792
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,720
Speaker 6: up and down the roster, I think Washington just has

793
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 6: more upside. You know, Echler Robins a pretty good running back,

794
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 6: Duo Ertz and so know at tight end. So there's

795
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 6: there's still positions they do not They have Bobby Wagner

796
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 6: in the middle and Louvu so at least, you know, Simon,

797
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 6: if you like linebackers, I mean, Washington at least has

798
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 6: linebackers finally, So you know, I when I look at

799
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 6: this roster, I just I think it's better than the Giants,

800
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 6: but more than anything, Washington.

801
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 5: Could have a quarterback.

802
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 6: It's like it's like it's as simple as the Texans

803
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 6: Anddycap last year. It's like, well, if you didn't know

804
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 6: who to take on the bottom of that division, you know,

805
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 6: it was the Culture Texans because they potentially have quarterbacks,

806
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,919
Speaker 6: you know, And this is I mean, I'm not really

807
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 6: a believer in Daniel Jones and Gable is going to

808
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 6: be calling plays now for the Giants. And I remember

809
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 6: when Ben McAdoo was all their rage for you know,

810
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 6: a few evenings in New York and then he started

811
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 6: calling his own plays, and that's just tough as a

812
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 6: head coach, you know, adding responsibilities here. So I'm I

813
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 6: don't like what the Giants are doing.

814
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 5: I don't love.

815
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 6: Washington, but I think Washington has in its range of outcomes,

816
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 6: a chance at success, and especially with you know, if

817
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 6: Dallas flounders or Dat gets hurt or see something's up

818
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 6: with CD and Jade and Daniels really hits the ground running,

819
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 6: he could really transform that team and that culture because remember.

820
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 5: That's what they really needed.

821
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 6: Washington is a culture reset, you know, all the ownership

822
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 6: issues and then you know, Ron Rivera I think got

823
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 6: pretty stale. Del Rio got pretty stale. The enemy you know,

824
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 6: never really you know, was getting jobs before this, and

825
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 6: you know, I don't think he is that great either.

826
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 6: So I just think the change is good for Washington

827
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 6: and staying in the changes the Giants made, I'm not

828
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 6: really really thrilled about Ben McAdoo.

829
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 1: Unforgivably, benched Eli Manning ended his long running record setting

830
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: quarterback starting streak for one game for Geno Smith. He

831
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 1: should have been fired that second for that. I think

832
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: it took about two seconds.

833
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 5: I was incredulous about it too. McAdoo was like.

834
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:34,240
Speaker 6: A higher gun.

835
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 2: Really.

836
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 5: The guy to blame, and.

837
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 6: I've written about this for Action Network, is Mara. Mara

838
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 6: has no idea what's going on, and he has no

839
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,280
Speaker 6: idea that the people working for him have no idea

840
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 6: what's going on. So I blame Marra, I blame the GM,

841
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,919
Speaker 6: and they really haven't. I think Dabo's solid.

842
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 5: But I still think that the front office is shaky.

843
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: We're going to go deep into the Giants because I

844
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 1: think there's a public perception thing going on here, and

845
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: so because of hard Knocks, and we had Lombardi on

846
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: and Lombardi railed against Joe Shane and how he made

847
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: GM's look and how he managed some of that situation.

848
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 3: But Simon, give me your take on the commanders.

849
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, the fear of the commander is that Jayden Dames

850
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 4: will be dead by week five.

851
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,280
Speaker 1: That's it, right, Like they didn't that is I should

852
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 1: he not invest in getting a guy to protect him.

853
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 4: All of it though, Like even when I talked to professionals,

854
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 4: it's like, who's the who's the O. C.

855
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 2: Kingsbury.

856
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 4: It's like that guy he flashes then all of a

857
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 4: sudden his offense gets figured out.

858
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 2: He's dog shit. Like there you go, chat a real

859
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 2: dog shit.

860
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's just the fear here, because it's like

861
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 4: I love the upside of this team, like Chris is

862
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 4: talking about, like this is a fun, exciting team because

863
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,720
Speaker 4: they're brought a new coaches and he could change the culture.

864
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,399
Speaker 4: Or we've seen all the time the quarterback comes in

865
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 4: and the players around him believe in that quarterback. It

866
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 4: does change the culture. We've seen time and time again.

867
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 4: But the same my team, The Giants are my team.

868
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 4: So I just couldn't get there this team in six

869
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 4: and a half because I do believe in the Giants.

870
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 4: I wanted to take both these teams over. But I

871
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 4: have this team right at six wins chat, so it's

872
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 4: like I'm not really betting this one only at half

873
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 4: a game under the win total. I just I can't

874
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 4: get there. There's just still too many questions. And you

875
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 4: talk about the biggest issue for me is that they

876
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 4: sold off that D line like they didn't really replace it.

877
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 4: They don't really have guys that can put pressure on

878
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 4: other teams when they are going to be behind. They

879
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 4: need to have pass rushers and guys that can stop

880
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 4: the run, and they.

881
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 2: Kind of give that up.

882
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 4: But they do have good linebackers which could correct some

883
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 4: of those weaknesses. But too much is there too many questions?

884
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 2: Even in this you know a.

885
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 4: Couple of weeks of preseason, their secondary they are bad?

886
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 7: Man?

887
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 2: Are they bad? Washington secondary is really bad.

888
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: Let me set up the Giants numbers one hundred and

889
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,280
Speaker 1: fifty to one to win the Super Bowl plus thirteen hundred,

890
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,439
Speaker 1: so thirteen to one to win the division, also six

891
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: and a half wins, like the Commanders, a line ranked

892
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: twenty ninth, and like this was the crux of the

893
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks off season series. The Giants did not pursue

894
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: Saquon because they were so focused on improving the offensive

895
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: line and helping Daniel Jones. They brought in two n

896
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: guards highlight about John Runyon probably long in the tooth.

897
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: They need a better year from Andrew Thomas, who was progressing.

898
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 3: To be elite.

899
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: What they really need is Evan Neil to play like

900
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: the number one pick he was in twenty twenty two.

901
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 2: I don't think he will.

902
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 5: That's over.

903
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 3: It's over.

904
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 6: Okay, that's over. That's all purious. I think it's gonna

905
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 6: be a luminor. Honestly, I think it's over.

906
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 7: The New York Giants' glory years are a distant memory

907
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 7: for their long suffering followers who have endured through the

908
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 7: worst of John, and before the carnage was complete, they

909
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 7: managed to rip some salt into the wound.

910
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: I thought Lombardi was great on the show last week,

911
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: being so honest about Joe Shane and how he he

912
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: could be on the right side of history here, which

913
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 1: I believe he is with the Saquon move, but the

914
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,280
Speaker 1: way he handled it was terrible. And I think Raybond

915
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: that might be influencing you in the Giants, but Simon,

916
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:08,280
Speaker 1: I'm surprised you're believing more in the Giants.

917
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's the hardest part of my job though,

918
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 4: is Like even months ago when I was begging people

919
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 4: in our Best Ball Draft, we said, I love the

920
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 4: Giants stack. You could have gotten neighbors in the fifth

921
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 4: and sixth round when I was talking about him like that.

922
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:22,720
Speaker 2: Dude, right now, chat, he's an end of the second

923
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 2: early third round pick.

924
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 4: So the public now is shifted where they're believing in

925
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 4: him just because he's killing it in camp. Daniel Jones

926
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 4: not so much. I mean, he's gotten better. I think

927
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 4: he was just rusty when he first came out there.

928
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 4: In these last couple of weeks, you know, he struggled

929
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 4: the first two weeks of camp. This past week he

930
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 4: has everything I've read. He's been more accurate, more consistent

931
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 4: on his deep ball, even though the young wide receiver

932
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 4: Hyatts look better, getting more comfortable with him. It's just

933
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 4: there are pieces there that I can get excited about.

934
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 4: And the biggest thing is I've seen Daniel Jones do

935
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 4: it like I've seen him somehow. Get to see him

936
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 4: to a playoff game and win a playoff game. It's

937
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 4: like I get where people are coming from. In his career,

938
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,720
Speaker 4: He's we had one season I believe, with over twenty

939
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 4: touchdown passes.

940
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 2: Like that's that's terrifying. Shad like that is I'm not

941
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:05,839
Speaker 2: gonna lie.

942
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 4: The betting that is is scary, but it is just

943
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 4: me betting on this D line. Like I just think

944
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 4: they have such a good D line that if they

945
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 4: can just figure out a little bit on offense, if

946
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 4: they can really flip those one score games, which I

947
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,240
Speaker 4: think that's what makes Debo a great coach. Like Debo,

948
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 4: you know the year they had that run, he was

949
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 4: incredible in close games, Like that's why we faded them

950
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 4: the next year because we're just like, they can't repeat that.

951
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 4: The same thing with the Vikings, were like the Vikings

952
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 4: couldn't repeat that, and they didn't. I do think they

953
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 4: have the squad this year to go eight to nine,

954
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 4: nine and eight like that, That to me feels like

955
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 4: they're ceiling. Wow, So looking at six and a half,

956
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 4: I'm taking the over. But like we just talked about,

957
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 4: if they're zero to four and Daniel Jones has three

958
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 4: three touchdowns and nine interceptions on the season, none of

959
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 4: us are gonna be shocked.

960
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 2: It's Daniel Jones.

961
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 4: It's like, it's the reason most fans of their team

962
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 4: think this is the last year of his contract. Right

963
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 4: after this year they pay him the forty million. They'll

964
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 4: move on that shock anybody. But I just I just

965
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:03,959
Speaker 4: like what this team has in place. The biggest question.

966
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 4: I think Chris is nailed it. It's like, what are

967
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 4: we gonna get from this offensive line? That to me

968
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 4: is the biggest question here.

969
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 1: So right now I'm looking up and while I do this,

970
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 1: I'm looking up the lines for week one, because Simon,

971
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: we liked the Giants as home dogs against the Vikings

972
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: in Week one.

973
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 2: They might be fair enough, but I'm assuming there's still

974
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:25,439
Speaker 2: one point dog.

975
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 3: There's still one point dogs.

976
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, if like, you know, this feels like a

977
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: go and grab it situation because.

978
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 4: The just feels like that game's going to make or

979
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 4: break my win totalle bets on both teams exactly right.

980
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: And this feels like like the moment is now because

981
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: you the stats will all tell you when we're going

982
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 1: to get deeper into this when we get into week one.

983
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 1: You want to be betting the short home favorites in

984
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: week one, uh, and you want to get it before

985
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: it they become I'm sorry, the short home dogs, and

986
00:46:58,120 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 1: you want to get it become before they become the

987
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: home favorite. Simon, you were about to say that you

988
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 1: like their defensive line. Their defensive line, according to PFF,

989
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: is ranked eighteenth. To me, that feels low. Like Dexter

990
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: Lawrence alone, he's the highest graded interior D lineman in

991
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 1: the league. He was three points higher than Aaron Donald

992
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: last year. Now they've added Brian Burns, who may make

993
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: Kavon Thibodeaux even more effective. Like even though we have

994
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 1: he had flashy stats last year, he only had forty

995
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: three quarterback pressures.

996
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 5: So yeah, I.

997
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: Agree with you about the defensive line, Raybond. Does that

998
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: influence any of your thinking? Does anything we've said influence you?

999
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 6: Nah?

1000
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 5: I just think this team.

1001
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 6: Every year there is a team that I look at

1002
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 6: and I just disagree with how they philosophy philosophically think

1003
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:59,240
Speaker 6: about football. Last year it was the Carolina Panthers. Frank

1004
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 6: Wright or agreed with pretty much zero of their moves.

1005
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 6: I'm starting to feel that same way about Joe Shane

1006
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 6: because when I look at all of the moves in

1007
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 6: totality that this Giant team has made since he took over.

1008
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 6: They signed Daniel Jones to that big contract. Silly they

1009
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 6: with on Evan Neil. They I've already spent two day

1010
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 6: three picks on undersized wide receivers that are not better

1011
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 6: than a holdover really in Darius at least not more

1012
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 6: productive than a holdover Darius Slayton, who they keep trying

1013
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 6: to bench but he keeps out playing all their other receivers.

1014
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 6: Then they go and they spend big money on a

1015
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 6: linebacker and Bobby Okaraka is great, but he's a linebacker.

1016
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 6: It's just not smart salary allocation. Okay, fine, whatever, they

1017
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 6: overachieve a couple in dables for first year. Last year,

1018
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 6: everything goes to shit, uh and it goes to poopy.

1019
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:07,439
Speaker 5: You saw you saw Dave.

1020
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 6: You saw Daboll unravel you saw him not you saw

1021
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:11,760
Speaker 6: him literally.

1022
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 5: Or if it wasn't Dave.

1023
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 6: Dabell had coached Tyrod Taylor in Buffalo, and somehow these

1024
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 6: guys could not get together.

1025
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 5: I believe I think they overlapped. I'm not even sure

1026
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 5: about that now that I think about it.

1027
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 6: But either way, the fact that he couldn't get it

1028
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 6: communicated that Tyrod Taylor was.

1029
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 5: Not to throw the football. They essentially threw away a

1030
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 5: game they could have beat Buffalo.

1031
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:30,359
Speaker 7: Uh.

1032
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,959
Speaker 6: You know, uh, we saw Dabe just unraveling multiple times

1033
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,800
Speaker 6: on the sidelines, and now he's gonna call his own plays,

1034
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 6: adding something, adding you know another, uh, you know, another

1035
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:46,359
Speaker 6: task to his plate where this roster. Like, sure they

1036
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 6: got a nice D line, but I always thought Burns

1037
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 6: was a little overrated. I mean, he's great, but for

1038
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 6: what they paid for him, I think he's a little overrated.

1039
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 6: Caveon Thibodeau has more name value than actual production in

1040
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 6: my opinion. I mean, so, so you're really talking about

1041
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 6: two great offensive linemen, Lawrence and Burns.

1042
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,919
Speaker 5: You know, Thibodeau in theory should be one.

1043
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 6: And then your secondary is you're really counting on Deontay

1044
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 6: Banks to make a massive year two weep, and that

1045
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 6: could happen. He was a first round pick out of

1046
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 6: Maryland last year, but he's still got question marks that

1047
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 6: at the other four starting secondary spots. I mean, Belton

1048
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 6: and Pinnock are your safeties, Phillips spot or you know

1049
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 6: even the other guys that know one has heard of

1050
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 6: are your other cornerbacks. You're just kind of patchwork in

1051
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 6: the line with you know, guards who you know might

1052
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 6: or might may or may not even be upgrades over

1053
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 6: what they had. They still have not figured out the

1054
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 6: center position and the guys that they you know, guys

1055
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 6: that they're signing to play center are not even working

1056
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 6: out and they're not even getting the reps there anymore.

1057
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 6: Like everything to me with this team is there's a

1058
00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 6: disconnect between what the front office thinks about, you know,

1059
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 6: who these players are and what they actually are. Just

1060
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 6: like even the way they Okay, we're gonna go out

1061
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 6: and draft a weapon for Daniel Jones because we can't

1062
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 6: draft the quarterback, but we were trying to trade up

1063
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 6: to number three to get Drake May, who I feel

1064
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 6: like they just like rump Drake May in with Daniels

1065
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:24,280
Speaker 6: and uh, you know Caleb Williams. Like no, Like there

1066
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 6: was a big, I think tear drop from the number

1067
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 6: two to number three. So the fact that they were

1068
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 6: even willing to bet the farm on on on.

1069
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 5: Drake May, like that in itself is a word.

1070
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,439
Speaker 6: It's like, I just nothing that the Giants have done,

1071
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 6: in my opinion, has been smart and nothing has really

1072
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 6: added to to them in my opinion, being able to

1073
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 6: win more games, Like you have a defensive line, but

1074
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 6: you're gonna overwork them. They're gonna be everything's gonna be

1075
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 6: on them because their secretary is not gonna be able

1076
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 6: to hold up, so it might it might be all

1077
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 6: or not. And let's say one of those guys misses

1078
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 6: a couple of games here and there. Let's say Birds

1079
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 6: missus or Lawrence miss Like, now you're back to one

1080
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 6: good one great defensive lineman, one okay, one with a

1081
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 6: lot of potential, a shitty secondary, some expensive linebackers that

1082
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 6: can only do so much.

1083
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 5: A guy like, It's just I just don't like this

1084
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 5: team at all.

1085
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 3: I think this problem is, you know what the problem is.

1086
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 1: I just want Raybond to tell us how he feels like.

1087
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,240
Speaker 1: I don't feel like I'm getting a real.

1088
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 5: J Jones stakes.

1089
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 2: Wins.

1090
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 5: I mean, this could be the worst team in the

1091
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 5: National Football League this year.

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Speaker 6: I think this team, I just I just I feel

1093
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 6: like Gable spoiled us. He kind of you know, they

1094
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,399
Speaker 6: massively overachieved in that first year. And you know there's

1095
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 6: anchoring bias, right, because that was our first impression.

1096
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 5: Of Dabel and I think he's he's fine.

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00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 6: But I don't think in Marrow that's a big problem

1098
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 6: because you saw, if you watch hard not how Mara

1099
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 6: was always in the office with Shane and I'm sure

1100
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 6: that's hanging over Shane and influencing some of these stilly

1101
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 6: decisions in himself. But like, why why would you not

1102
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 6: address cornerback when you have to guard ce Ceedee Lamb

1103
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 6: the leading receiver in the National Football League A J.

1104
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 6: Brown and DeVante Smith, both of those twice a year. Uh,

1105
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 6: Terry McLaurin with a new rookie quarterback, Like, I just

1106
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 6: don't understand how you don't address cornerback and the secondary.

1107
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 6: And then you're like, oh, yeah, well I'll have to

1108
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 6: suit up and play corners. What is Joe Shane's joking?

1109
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 6: Like that's not a joke, but this is this is

1110
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 6: this could this is gonna get bad really fast. And oh,

1111
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:28,439
Speaker 6: we don't even know if Daniel Jones is the guy.

1112
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 6: But and oh, by the way, all their draft picks

1113
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 6: were for need, so yeah, maybe you lucked into neighbors

1114
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 6: because you had the number six pick because you stunk

1115
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,919
Speaker 6: last year. But after that, it was like, oh, well,

1116
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 6: so we need a tight end, so let's go get

1117
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 6: this guy, and we need to we need a safety,

1118
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 6: so oh he was the last guy we would take

1119
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 6: there that that we could start. Oh and then they

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00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 6: they freaking It seems like every they don't even know

1121
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 6: who their good players are. It's like, oh, let's draft

1122
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 6: another running back and already put him, you know, number

1123
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 6: two on the depth chart in Tyrone Tracy and then

1124
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 6: Eric Gray, the guy you drafted last year is that's

1125
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 6: playing the best. So it's like, I don't think they

1126
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 6: self scout well clearly, and I just I just think

1127
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 6: this the bottom is gonna fall from this team. And

1128
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 6: I'm Daniel Jones. He's a known quantity at this point too. Like,

1129
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 6: he's not the worst quarterback in the wine. He can

1130
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 6: run with him, he can make some throws, but he's

1131
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 6: not gonna.

1132
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 5: Win you games. He's not winning you games. And that's

1133
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 5: what this team needs.

1134
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 6: It needs a Jaden Daniel type quarterback that's gonna win

1135
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 6: you games. And I'm just not convinced that they have that,

1136
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 6: and even her backup, like they they might have to

1137
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 6: start Tommy de Vito again.

1138
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 5: Is this is?

1139
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 6: I mean, this team could be so so bad. I

1140
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 6: can't believe you guys don't see that ship like this

1141
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 6: team is. They got a great defensive line, big whoop, Simon.

1142
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 3: Right now, I'm betting the Giants worst team in the NFL.

1143
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 1: Are you I feel like Raymond just did an excellent

1144
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 1: trave to convince me.

1145
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 2: It was like, a, well, it's his favorite team, that's why.

1146
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was a good but I can the Giants

1147
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 6: at times, like I know, but I.

1148
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 2: Know you know too much though, that's your problem, right, Yeah.

1149
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 1: I feel the passion right now, like he is so

1150
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 1: deep in this thing. Is what happened when your team

1151
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:15,240
Speaker 1: is on hard knocks, you are like, I'm still upset

1152
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 1: that that Bears kid who stripped down to his undies.

1153
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 3: Got hurt from that first preseason.

1154
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 1: Okay, so, like I understand the emotion Raybond is playing

1155
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:31,240
Speaker 1: with here, but listen, as a precursor to our convinced

1156
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 1: me show, you fucking convinced me on the Giants.

1157
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 3: It feels like you were taking over six and a

1158
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:37,879
Speaker 3: half Simon.

1159
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 2: So I mean, I love the over.

1160
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna fight you guys on. It's definitely one

1161
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 4: of these teams where it's like I just said it,

1162
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 4: they could Chris said.

1163
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 2: They could be one of the worst teams of football.

1164
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 1: It would be shocked that he doesn't feel like to me, like,

1165
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: as I want to run down our favorite bets here,

1166
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 1: I'm really only coming away with a consensus Eagles Cowboys.

1167
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's pretty damn good chot.

1168
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 5: The Eagles fade the Cowboys.

1169
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 6: But it's just like Simon, you're gonna you're You're not

1170
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 6: gonna want to in like week six. You're not gonna

1171
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 6: want to look at your bank roll and seek and

1172
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:09,919
Speaker 6: I know you're a big I know you're a big better.

1173
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 6: You're not gonna want to see like five six figures

1174
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,879
Speaker 6: on Daniel Jones instead of Jade and Daniels, Like, You're

1175
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 6: just gonna be like, No, Matt Eberflus is the only

1176
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 6: dude that I could switch his whole slag up with

1177
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 6: the beard like Dan.

1178
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 4: I know you know, I'm drinking the kool Aid, Bro,

1179
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 4: you can't can't get in. I'm literally I've drank the

1180
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 4: kool Aid. I'm in on the Giants.

1181
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 2: I'm bad. I'm bad.

1182
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 3: I love this though.

1183
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:39,280
Speaker 1: This is great, So Raybon would probably lean forget about

1184
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 1: egos and cowboys for a second. Raybon, you give me

1185
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 1: a commander's bet. Are you saying you would like to

1186
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 1: be over on the commanders at six and a half

1187
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 1: or do you not have any bets on the commanders

1188
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:50,360
Speaker 1: at this point?

1189
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 6: I would say I still think the NFC is gonna

1190
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 6: be a go both both conferences, just because there's yeah,

1191
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 6: I think like ten o eleven would gimme so all right,

1192
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:03,919
Speaker 6: So I don't like. I don't like the win total

1193
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 6: over I would. If I'm betting the Commanders, I want

1194
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 6: to bet big. So my favorite Commander's bet is Jadeen

1195
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 6: Daniels Rookie of Offensive Rookie of the Year plus four

1196
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 6: seventy five. I have him projected to be a better

1197
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 6: fantasy quarterback than Caleb Williams because of the rushing upside,

1198
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 6: and if he's statistically better than Caleb Williams, even if

1199
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 6: Williams throws for more yards, Daniels will have a shot

1200
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 6: to win that award. So I like that. And then

1201
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 6: I think long shot Commanders Division at nine to one

1202
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 6: because we know it's probably not going to be the

1203
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 6: Cowboys given the NFC East's history, and if for some reason,

1204
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 6: you know, maybe Jaalen Hurts gets hurt for an extended period,

1205
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 6: or you know what if something goes wrong with the Eagles,

1206
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 6: I think the Commanders are in position to pounce because again,

1207
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 6: Jayden Daniels, just like you saw Stroud do, and we've

1208
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 6: seen countless rookie quarterbacks do in years past. He could

1209
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 6: change his whole culture, and he could single handedly be

1210
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 6: responsible for this team turning from a terrible team to

1211
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 6: an average or even a slightly above average team as

1212
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 6: soon as this year. So that's how I'm looking at

1213
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 6: the Commanders. I want no parts of like I I

1214
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 6: just don't see that for Daniel Jones. So I'm thinking

1215
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 6: of Commander's mate. Finally, you know, just start hammering the Giants.

1216
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 6: The Giants usually have their the you know, the edge

1217
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 6: in those matchups for some reason. But yeah, I think

1218
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 6: long shot Commander's bets is what I want. So Jayden

1219
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 6: Daniels and the long shot division.

1220
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 3: Simon, I will give you the Giants over six and

1221
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 3: a half.

1222
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, Giants over six and a half.

1223
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 4: And if if you're really make me better on WASHT,

1224
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 4: I'm just slightly towards the under at six ones.

1225
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 1: All right, That was that was exciting the end of that.

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00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 1: I did not expect it to go that way at

1227
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