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Speaker 3: They can enjoy how straight your hat is? Yes? That was.
Speaker 2: How dare you so? The first question? But I think
Speaker 2: it is my biggest petic.
Speaker 1: Like I was like, if I'm on TV with a
Speaker 1: cricket hat, it's embarrassing to try to talk about some
Speaker 1: stuff that matters, Like I can't talk about serious stuff.
Speaker 2: When my hat is like because your.
Speaker 1: So anyways, really really cool to be back with everyone here, Freddy,
Speaker 1: I I miss you when we're not in the same
Speaker 1: room together. Uh, please don't make it weird. Well it's
Speaker 1: too late. He made it weird.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: But today I thought, you know, we could start with
Speaker 1: something kind of fun, you know, and the reason I
Speaker 1: call it pron is because I think it's always so
Speaker 1: talent and so you know, you know, so so philosophical
Speaker 1: when we go into some of these moments and entertainment
Speaker 1: that kind of not only made us but shaped us.
Speaker 1: And we've done a lot of that in our internal
Speaker 1: you know, uh, search for each other's histories and and
Speaker 1: our trajectory and the industry. But now as we think
Speaker 1: about it like a fun like a fan, you know,
Speaker 1: like can I be a fan here?
Speaker 2: Can I say?
Speaker 1: Hey, you know, what are these movies that as a
Speaker 1: as a moviegoer we look at and somehow we see
Speaker 1: recreated over and over and over again.
Speaker 3: Like a lot of.
Speaker 1: People find these iconic movies right that we grew up watching,
Speaker 1: and today this next generation is almost watching them for
Speaker 1: the first time. And really they don't know that these
Speaker 1: movies have been re skinned after original movies that were
Speaker 1: the first one of its kind, and now they're like,
Speaker 1: it's like this kind of prototype, so they make the
Speaker 1: same movie with new characters. Right but without going to
Speaker 1: political deep diving on you know, the state of affairs
Speaker 1: of our industry right now, where you know, IP and
Speaker 1: reboots and sequels and prequels are so popular because they
Speaker 1: just can't trust the original content today. I thought they'd
Speaker 1: be really fun for us to kind of go down
Speaker 1: a list of four movies each you think of four
Speaker 1: movies that really changed the paradigmic how you saw film
Speaker 1: making and they made you love the movies. And we'll
Speaker 1: breaking down one by one, you know, you say one,
Speaker 1: I say one, and then you're like, we kind of like,
Speaker 1: let's see to see when we meet in the middle
Speaker 1: when it comes to this movie is because we might
Speaker 1: have the same movie in mind, right, But that's true.
Speaker 2: But I guess do you want to start? You want
Speaker 2: me to?
Speaker 3: Sure? Yeah, you start, I'll start, Okay. My top top
Speaker 3: movie is Goodfellas. Okay. Now it's always hard for me,
Speaker 3: like when people go, what are you top four or five? Right,
Speaker 3: because you have like hardcorese and the files out there
Speaker 3: who are judging you, and like I judge my top
Speaker 3: four movies in the category of movies that I've seen
Speaker 3: thirty If I've watched this movie thirty times, then to
Speaker 3: meet it's one of my favorite movies. Right. There's no
Speaker 3: rhyme or reason.
Speaker 2: Behind or if it's on TV, you have to finish it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you can't get in the car like you're
Speaker 1: gonna be late because you gotta watch it.
Speaker 3: It's one of those movies that I feel like it's
Speaker 3: fresh every time I see it, you know. And I'll
Speaker 3: tell you a story behind that movie. When I first
Speaker 3: saw that movie. That movie came out my freshman year
Speaker 3: of high school, and I went to art school and
Speaker 3: I had a friend who would get us into the
Speaker 3: movie for free, okay, And it was called the Webster
Speaker 3: Theater in Bucktown, Chicago. And back then in Chicago, you
Speaker 3: would go to one theater, and if you want to
Speaker 3: be sneaky, you sneak to another theater. Then you sneak
Speaker 3: to another theater, especially when you're like fifteen years old, right,
Speaker 3: And so I was doing that and I went to
Speaker 3: one and I saw another one, and I snuck into
Speaker 3: this theater and Goodfellas was starting. It was like, right
Speaker 3: up the first frame, I had no idea what I
Speaker 3: was getting into. I sat down. That opening scene comes
Speaker 3: on Rayleiota, Robert de Niro, Joe Peshi in the car.
Speaker 3: They hear Frank Vincent's character in the trunk. They stop
Speaker 3: the car, they get out, Joe Peshi whops out this
Speaker 3: big kitchen knife, and he's just starts stabbing Frank Vincent
Speaker 3: in the trunk. I was fifteen years old, fourteen, and
Speaker 3: I'd never seen anything like that in cinema. And I
Speaker 3: was riveted. Man, I was paralyzed. I couldn't move a
Speaker 3: muscle and I sat there and I watched that two
Speaker 3: three hour movie without going to the bathroom, without moving nothing.
Speaker 3: I paid attention to every single frame of that film,
Speaker 3: and it changed my perspective in movies forever? Did it?
Speaker 2: Did it wake up something else in you?
Speaker 3: Like? Did it?
Speaker 2: Did you not? Did you not know that was possible
Speaker 2: in filming?
Speaker 3: I just knew that I was watching something profound. I
Speaker 3: knew nothing really about movies. I wasn't a cinema buff.
Speaker 3: I was in a movie, you know. But I knew
Speaker 3: that I was watching something different. I knew that I
Speaker 3: was watching something of greatness. And and I and my
Speaker 3: instinct told me that really early on in my life.
Speaker 3: And so it was like a tuning fork, right, And
Speaker 3: so now I wait for that tuning fork to to
Speaker 3: rear its head every time I watch a movie, to
Speaker 3: see if it's telling me if this movie is great
Speaker 3: or not. And that was the first one and it
Speaker 3: changed my life. And I got to tell Frank Vincent
Speaker 3: that story too, man one day before he passed away,
Speaker 3: God bless him, and he was like, oh, thank you man,
Speaker 3: thank you, you know, and I was like, dude, your
Speaker 3: movie changed my life. You know. I got to be
Speaker 3: a judge at the Tribeca Film Festival and I got
Speaker 3: to like tell them about that film. But it was transformative.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's so amazing that you said that.
Speaker 1: I watched that movie in Spanish, But.
Speaker 3: How was that in Spanish.
Speaker 1: It's interesting because the performances are like they probably it
Speaker 1: probably hits harder in English, you know, but regardless, the
Speaker 1: movie was so undeniable, right, And then I watched it
Speaker 1: in English and I was like boom, Like it just
Speaker 1: hit me in so many different ways. I never thought
Speaker 1: like I seen performances like that, yeah, you know, and
Speaker 1: performances like that weren't uncoming, right, Like you watched the
Speaker 1: seventies and even a few movies in the sixties, like
Speaker 1: I think, like like The Last Weekend. Yeah, that's a
Speaker 1: movie that kind of lost weekend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a movie about so what the movie
Speaker 2: is about.
Speaker 1: The movie is about this this writer, the actor was
Speaker 1: Ray Melunt and he his performance was so I was
Speaker 1: taking at but the fact that it was that it
Speaker 1: was black and white and and and because I was like,
Speaker 1: this movie had to be one of the darkest movies
Speaker 1: of that time, and he was. I think he went
Speaker 1: an oscar too. It was nominated for multiple Oscars. And
Speaker 1: the movie was about this writer who has lost lost
Speaker 1: his way and you know, he was standing in front
Speaker 1: of this typewriter and he just couldn't start this page.
Speaker 1: And you know, he was an alcoholic, you know, and
Speaker 1: he will go back to this this one girl, and
Speaker 1: I believe she was, you know, a prostitute, and but
Speaker 1: he was like telling her everything, you know, that that
Speaker 1: she wanted to hear, and just like at the end,
Speaker 1: we just asked her for money so he can go drink.
Speaker 1: And it was really dark and the relationship was so complicated,
Speaker 1: and I was like, whoa, this is just a specific story.
Speaker 1: And I reckon when everybody to watch it, because that
Speaker 1: was one of those first movies. And I'm not like
Speaker 1: the guy who like, let's go back to the sixties
Speaker 1: and like, you know, I just watch these movies. I'm
Speaker 1: not you know, I I yes, I love cinema, and
Speaker 1: I've definitely that way in my later years and understanding
Speaker 1: where cinema really you know, I broke the ground. But
Speaker 1: this was one of those movies that like, I just
Speaker 1: like I watched it one day and it just absolutely
Speaker 1: fractured what was possible, and I was like, if that
Speaker 1: tone was possible, then right, I realized everything that was
Speaker 1: possible after.
Speaker 3: So you feel that it was the tone or the
Speaker 3: execution that resonated with you as opposed to like somebody's
Speaker 3: singular performance.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean their performances was they were incredibly grounded, right,
Speaker 1: they were humbling, and they were fracturing. They were very
Speaker 1: they were very grounded, you know, like for that time,
Speaker 1: you know, everybody well you know talk like this, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, they were like that that you uh,
Speaker 1: that kind of you know, mentality, but I mean vibe
Speaker 1: and tone. So I was taken back by movies that
Speaker 1: was there was widen. Those performances were almost just so real,
Speaker 1: and I think it was a groundbreaking enough that got
Speaker 1: nomin area for multiple Oscars. But you know, I go
Speaker 1: back to to the Goodfellas, you know, and I think
Speaker 1: about these performances, we're so liberating. You know, I felt
Speaker 1: like they were drawing with callers and that were you know,
Speaker 1: the way they were using the words, the way they
Speaker 1: would talk to each other and finish each other's sentences.
Speaker 1: It was like it was a different level of groundness.
Speaker 1: And I think that that movieould definitely touched me as well.
Speaker 3: Do you think you think do you think that like
Speaker 3: like synergy has something to do with it, right, because
Speaker 3: you know, we've we've been making movies and TV for
Speaker 3: thirty years, right, and I've found that you could have
Speaker 3: a singular good performance, right, or you could have somebody
Speaker 3: write a really good story. But there's something about when
Speaker 3: you know that term, when when the planets aligned right,
Speaker 3: like like the planets are aligned and and there's a
Speaker 3: certain synergy that comes from the performance and the directing
Speaker 3: and the writing and the overall the perfect storm. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 3: That's what I felt like when I was watching that movie,
Speaker 3: Like there was this perfect synergy happening from all from
Speaker 3: all aspects of filmmaking. Where sometimes I'll watch a movie
Speaker 3: and I'll go, well, that dude's performance is awesome, but
Speaker 3: like there's something off about the editing or somewhere else
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: Or the rhythm you know, yeah, And I think it's
Speaker 1: when you know, you think about Good Fellas and you
Speaker 1: think about the generation of gangster films. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: the Italian you know kind of genre, the Italian American Italian.
Speaker 1: You know that it was out here doing it. And
Speaker 1: you talk about the Godfather, right, and the Godfather and
Speaker 1: Godfather too.
Speaker 2: You know where the Naro is is plaining, you know,
Speaker 2: it's you.
Speaker 1: We're seeing him become you know, who he's gonna be,
Speaker 1: and that those performances had this rhythm, and I think
Speaker 1: the culture really enhanced what these characters had to offer
Speaker 1: in the narrative tone, right, I think like that's the.
Speaker 3: The culture in the movie or the culture and.
Speaker 1: Like the Italian culture, right, I mean like the coren
Speaker 1: actor to fall back into their character traits, their values
Speaker 1: and speak.
Speaker 2: Authentically about what their values are.
Speaker 1: Because you talk about the Godfather, you know, these guys
Speaker 1: were real gentlemen, right, There were men of their word.
Speaker 1: You know, they were loyal you know and until until
Speaker 1: other people, until others.
Speaker 2: Weren't and and uh.
Speaker 1: And you know, so that's kind of stuff I really
Speaker 1: resonated as a Latino, you know, and as a brown man,
Speaker 1: I can really relate to some of the values, the
Speaker 1: family values, you know, the the you know, the spirituality
Speaker 1: part of it, all that stuff.
Speaker 2: So, but I think it's I think culture.
Speaker 1: I think that those characters really, you know, just really
Speaker 1: came to life because they've rooted it softly in who
Speaker 1: they were as individuals as well, right like their culture.
Speaker 1: And I think that's one of that's when it gets
Speaker 1: really unique, when an actor really performs to their strengths
Speaker 1: and leaning on what they really do know. And I
Speaker 1: think that I think maybe that's one of the reasons
Speaker 1: why I feel like Goodfellas to me also felt like
Speaker 1: you were watching something you weren't.
Speaker 2: Supposed to, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was definitely some like inside something felt inside
Speaker 3: about it. Different world as opposed to like watching like
Speaker 3: a regular mobster movie, which which I'm sure all of
Speaker 3: it has it's it's it's levels of authenticity to it, right,
Speaker 3: but but there was something that was different about that
Speaker 3: one that, at fifteen years old, absolutely floored me like
Speaker 3: nothing has ever floored me before.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we have the last weekend, yep, and we
Speaker 1: have Good Fellas.
Speaker 2: What's your next one?
Speaker 3: Carlito's way, Yeah, yeah, man, Carlito's way. You know mine
Speaker 3: shout out to Louis.
Speaker 2: Louis, Louis lou Louis from the Hood.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and to John Ortiz and John Sata who's in
Speaker 3: that movie and like that movie and all that, uh
Speaker 3: I rec and that's a whole other subject's talk about. Look,
Speaker 3: it's it's a yeah, it's a tough subject matter, you know.
Speaker 3: But but I I I try to I try to
Speaker 3: watch that movie objectively, right, I try to watch it
Speaker 3: with no preconceived notions going in. I just love the movie. Man.
Speaker 3: There was something different about that movie, the way that that, uh,
Speaker 3: the director used music and original score with that music,
Speaker 3: with that movie, it was almost poetic that I felt
Speaker 3: that these other movies didn't use those and and and.
Speaker 1: By the way those other movies there was rarely music.
Speaker 1: The music would come in at very specific moments.
Speaker 3: Of the act.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like there taking you from one act or
Speaker 1: the other that dude, h.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I had that and Godfather or even like Goodfellas,
Speaker 3: where Scorsese was also sort of a music buff, right,
Speaker 3: so he used very specific music cues and that. But
Speaker 3: but go back and listen to the original score in
Speaker 3: Carlito's way, and it's it's beautiful, man. It's his beautiful
Speaker 3: strings and something that you wouldn't expect to be in
Speaker 3: the background of something as gritty as like a film
Speaker 3: like that. And I just love, I love. I think
Speaker 3: the movie is beautiful and it's poetic. And I know
Speaker 3: people have different opinions about Patino and his performance and
Speaker 3: him not being Puerto Rican all that stuff, but I
Speaker 3: still it still resonates with me. Man. I could watch
Speaker 3: I go home and watch it tonight and watch it
Speaker 3: like it's my first time watching it.
Speaker 2: I mean, seems we're in the gangster of it all.
Speaker 2: I think I'll match you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just as much of a controversial movie Scarface.
Speaker 3: Dude, I just rewatched that movie.
Speaker 2: Come on, man, from the first one, Dude.
Speaker 3: I just rewatched it. As I always say to myself,
Speaker 3: I've been going, I've been going on this journey and
Speaker 3: I've been watching movies as an adult. You ever watch
Speaker 3: movies now as an adult?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, not as a kid? Not as like I'm gonna
Speaker 3: go watch Scarface, like the sensationalism of it. Have you
Speaker 3: watched it now as an adult? You have? And what
Speaker 3: do you think?
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a couple of things, right, Yeah, so
Speaker 1: scarface to me felt like these two characters, like, you know,
Speaker 1: they kind of breezed through the immigration part of it,
Speaker 1: cams and whatever and all that stuff, and you know,
Speaker 1: and they really painted a picture that these Cubans were
Speaker 1: here like just messing things up, right, Yeah, And and
Speaker 1: then it was like just an unhinged interpretation of two
Speaker 1: dudes that were just out there.
Speaker 2: Doing whatever they wanted to do, you know.
Speaker 1: And but it's an interesting question, you say, we watched
Speaker 1: it as an adult, How did how did how did
Speaker 1: he speak to me on that level?
Speaker 2: And and I.
Speaker 1: Think I felt like that era, this analog era of
Speaker 1: pain payphones and convertible Cadillacs and like pastel colors in
Speaker 1: Miami felt like a different planet. And somehow I allowed
Speaker 1: it in my mind, we gave it license to exist,
Speaker 1: not just rant free, but like no questions asked.
Speaker 2: I just went along for the.
Speaker 1: Ride and I didn't have to like poke holes on
Speaker 1: it because I was like, it just brings me back
Speaker 1: to like the first time I saw it.
Speaker 3: At the sensationalism of it, Yeah, because it's so big,
Speaker 3: say hello, like what the hell? But wasn't Miami kind
Speaker 3: of big at that time?
Speaker 1: Larger than live, like the open silk shirts and you
Speaker 1: know and all that, and so do you.
Speaker 3: Think that maybe it was just an interpretation of what
Speaker 3: was what was really happening. I mean, look, are people
Speaker 3: in a mansion like with a big ass gun like that, Like.
Speaker 2: Maybe back then, you know, you know, it probably is Miami.
Speaker 1: I think everyone was probably you know, liked and loaded
Speaker 1: over something, you know, but.
Speaker 3: But a reflection of like of like the externalism of
Speaker 3: of like how people were right and how it.
Speaker 1: Just feels to me like it was this grounded world. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the movie was a grounded world. And then they told
Speaker 1: Paccino step on it or Patino just said, I'm going
Speaker 1: to play something so different than you've ever seen me do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, this is a different boss, It's.
Speaker 1: A different gangster he was playing, right, like, so he
Speaker 1: just said, I got it.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna play Q and I'm a little more external.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it has to be a little more external because
Speaker 1: he's been because every other gangster he played was so internal.
Speaker 1: I mean, I go back to Scarface, uh Mooney too.
Speaker 2: Sorry sorry, and that scar I go back to Godfather too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my got Godfather too was so settle in the eyes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was he was saying monologues with his eyes. People
Speaker 1: were talking around him, and the camera was just on him.
Speaker 1: And then you go to Scarface and he's just like
Speaker 1: filling up the seventy millimeter like lens like he's just.
Speaker 2: Filling it up.
Speaker 1: So I think he just I think that that opportunity
Speaker 1: was making choices, Yeah, to go far, because if I'm
Speaker 1: gonna play another gangster, I'm gonna go as far as possible. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, so it's a different type of gangster. And
Speaker 1: I think he he went very far.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it kind of I don't I don't know. Man,
Speaker 3: It obviously works, right because people to this day are
Speaker 3: wearing Scarface T shirts and jackets. And at the time
Speaker 3: it got panned, right, the film got panned, his performance
Speaker 3: got panned. But I feel like sometimes people will make
Speaker 3: these bold choices as an actor, right, and and people
Speaker 3: crap on it in the beginning, and then and then
Speaker 3: and then it needs to sort of live in the ether.
Speaker 3: And then and then people like are like, oh, I know,
Speaker 3: it's kind of big, but it's big, but it's still
Speaker 3: grounded at the same time.
Speaker 1: And I think I think critics and you know, cinema
Speaker 1: has become more and more cynical. I think over time,
Speaker 1: every decade, we fracture fantasy, and we fractured boldness, and
Speaker 1: we fracture originality. And when something is that different or
Speaker 1: that bold and it doesn't fit them all that everyone's
Speaker 1: leading into this is the trend of subtleness or independent
Speaker 1: film making or whatever, then all of a sudden it
Speaker 1: becomes like not good, you know, And there's something to
Speaker 1: be said about the different cinematic narratives that actually are
Speaker 1: needed to tell very specific stories and original cont and
Speaker 1: should be given the freedom to be at whatever frequency
Speaker 1: they need to be to tell us, you know, to
Speaker 1: tell us what this is about.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: And I think for him, uh, what really worked for
Speaker 1: me is that the world was very real for Scarface,
Speaker 1: but he had to play someone that was a lunatic.
Speaker 1: He was just crazy and delusional and that you know,
Speaker 1: so you had to see him on hinch. I mean,
Speaker 1: one of my favorite scenes in Scarface is when he's
Speaker 1: in the restaurant and he gets drunk and Michelle Fiffer
Speaker 1: is there and he's just like, you know, say hello,
Speaker 1: I do the bad guy. You know that that part,
Speaker 1: like that was uncomfortable. That was like you know that
Speaker 1: was grounded and real and that he really saw that moment.
Speaker 3: For me, I know, somebody who's done that in the restaurant,
Speaker 3: like completely made a scene. And so when I saw that,
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, yeah, I've seen that. There's a
Speaker 3: lot of that stuff. That's that's real man. I I
Speaker 3: you know, I unfortunately grew up in a in a
Speaker 3: in a neighborhood uh somewhat similar and and there's some
Speaker 3: there's some big characters in those neighborhoods and who are
Speaker 3: a part of that world and that underworld, I mean
Speaker 3: people who are really external growing up in that type
Speaker 3: of neighborhood. There are a lot of larger than life
Speaker 3: characters like that man that that if you were to
Speaker 3: meet them in real life, you're like, wow, if if
Speaker 3: they were to put someone like this on screen, you
Speaker 3: would think that it's unbelievable. Remember when when Snoop at
Speaker 3: a time was hanging with that one pimp who used
Speaker 3: to we.
Speaker 2: Used to drive, we used to drive.
Speaker 3: The Bishop down Horn Like that's a real.
Speaker 1: Dude, like like every MYSIC video with him.
Speaker 3: That's a real guy who lives his life like that
Speaker 3: every single day, who.
Speaker 1: Really addresses like that by the way, every up and
Speaker 1: you know the pimp hat and the cane.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean, I grew up with some pretty
Speaker 3: pretty colorful characters.
Speaker 1: You uh, send me a picture the other day with
Speaker 1: a very colorful outfit.
Speaker 3: Which one? Which one? Which?
Speaker 1: I think you were going to a dance or I
Speaker 1: don't know if it was a dance or something. You
Speaker 1: you were wearing white gloves. Oh, yeah, definitely, I know
Speaker 1: I understand that you that was kind of the neighborhood,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: For our mullet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you had a ring over the white glove.
Speaker 3: Dude, I had I had gold chains over the tie.
Speaker 1: You know, I gotta say it was it was a
Speaker 1: different frequency. And I want to tell you something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean you call me to hang Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm going to my closet and I'm doing the same thing.
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 1: And for those of you who are wondering what we're
Speaker 1: talking about, you know, sometimes we send each other funny
Speaker 1: pictures of our past or something. He came across a
Speaker 1: picture when I think when you went back home or something.
Speaker 3: And I went back home, and my mother always tends
Speaker 3: to break out, you know, old magazine articles and old
Speaker 3: photos and you know, and she came across a photo.
Speaker 3: I stood up and somebody's keen Signetta, which, for those
Speaker 3: who don't know what a King Signetta is is somebody
Speaker 3: sweet sixteen, right, but fifteen? And this was Wilmer and
Speaker 3: I have had multiple discussions about mullets and Dracar Noir
Speaker 3: and everything that pertains to that time period. And I
Speaker 3: came across a photo of me in a King Signetta
Speaker 3: with the most killer mullet you'll ever see in your life, Freddy.
Speaker 2: It was so iconic.
Speaker 1: I was like, I gotta sit over this photo, Freddy.
Speaker 1: I want you to understand, like things were differ in
Speaker 1: my house. I want you to understand that things really changed,
Speaker 1: and I will be honest.
Speaker 2: For the better. Yeah, for the better.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 2: I'm a believer, Yeah, I believe. And you you brought a.
Speaker 1: Level, you up the game to such a degree that I, uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I owe you one. I owe you a picture back
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna tell you something. You're gonna realize how
Speaker 1: much we were got at THEOD.
Speaker 3: We give you my picture.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be it better be a psychonic Oh no,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a legend.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: My mind is an immortal legend. When you see would
Speaker 2: you see what.
Speaker 3: You've show You've shown me some year old headshots?
Speaker 2: Yeah, another are problem for me, they are a problem.
Speaker 2: I have one photo.
Speaker 1: I have one photo that I think might actually not
Speaker 1: only brings us back together, well, we might, we might
Speaker 1: move our families together. We might we might have to
Speaker 1: move into the same property because we're the same fucking
Speaker 1: do it?
Speaker 3: Okay, So Scarface is your is your three? I think
Speaker 3: for me my four or my three would be there
Speaker 3: will be blood. Wow. Yeah, there's something about that movie
Speaker 3: that I can just right now, I can just go
Speaker 3: watch it and there's just something, like I said, I
Speaker 3: don't know if it's the alchemy of it with everyone
Speaker 3: involved in his performance, there's just something that's so magical
Speaker 3: to me about the way that film is executed. And
Speaker 3: Daniel day lewis right, he's one of those actors that
Speaker 3: every time he does something, it's so it's so magnificent
Speaker 3: to me, you know, I just I just think it's
Speaker 3: a It's a wonderful film.
Speaker 2: I think I would say, like.
Speaker 1: Rocky yeah, right, because when you think about those movies
Speaker 1: that became prototypes when it comes to like the underdog stories,
Speaker 1: I mean they had to do. They made probably two
Speaker 1: hundred movies of the that had one that had this
Speaker 1: underdog story, two that had a training montage, right, you know,
Speaker 1: and and you think about like this, you know, single
Speaker 1: led guy who goes against all odds, you know. And
Speaker 1: also that was a prototype for every sports movie, every
Speaker 1: sports movie, those acts were identical if you think about
Speaker 1: all the you know, the the you know the you know,
Speaker 1: losing then winning, then losing again to as still as
Speaker 1: a win.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: You know that that little sequence I think was was
Speaker 1: part of that, that prototype, and I think Rocky what
Speaker 1: it what it did for me was, you know, it
Speaker 1: became this inspiration. I mean even you know we were
Speaker 1: talking about earlier House tallone you know, was able to
Speaker 1: champion that movie and get it made and stuck stood
Speaker 1: by his you know, he stood his ground and said, no,
Speaker 1: I got to play the guy.
Speaker 2: No one can't play this guy but me. I know
Speaker 2: what I got to do.
Speaker 1: And that's why I wish he never died and any
Speaker 1: of the last that likes to create movies, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: like it's and I also wish that he wouldn't.
Speaker 3: But then what would he have done, though, Like what like,
Speaker 3: you wish you wouldn't have died, and then what I've
Speaker 3: still been the trainer.
Speaker 2: I think he could have been like Mickey, you know.
Speaker 1: But also I also like he he went through such turmoil,
Speaker 1: Like I wish he would have just been like a
Speaker 1: happy ending for him because he gave us so much.
Speaker 1: I feel like I wish that he would have retained
Speaker 1: some of his money, Like why did he have to
Speaker 1: be broke? Why did he have to be sick? Why
Speaker 1: did he have to be all those things? Like is
Speaker 1: it because most you know boxers and that way, I
Speaker 1: get it, I get it, But why if he didn't, right, Like,
Speaker 1: what would it done to the boxers of the future.
Speaker 1: You know, we could have kept a little bit of
Speaker 1: my money and you know, yeah a restaurant dude went
Speaker 1: up to the restaurant. Yeah, you know, and you know,
Speaker 1: to me, it's like for him to die alone, and
Speaker 1: it's kind of kind of crazy. I don't know, it
Speaker 1: just I don't know, but I get why. It feels
Speaker 1: like smart. But you know, there's some boxes that I made.
Speaker 1: You know, Look, Oscar has a promotional thing and you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know, you know, but I
Speaker 1: think Rocky to me, when you think about a movie itself,
Speaker 1: that's another one that painted such a realistic interpretation.
Speaker 2: About what his world was like. Even the moment where
Speaker 2: he's like where is he? Where is he? Where Isy?
Speaker 1: He just pulls up outside the window of the priest
Speaker 1: and goes, oh, he was wondering.
Speaker 2: If you can give me a blessing.
Speaker 1: I've got the biggest part of my life, and you know,
Speaker 1: I just want to make sure I come back in
Speaker 1: one piece, you know, like whatever.
Speaker 2: And I think that that that was like, oh, man,
Speaker 2: like this is an Italian guy.
Speaker 1: I gotta go to the priest. I gotta get a
Speaker 1: little blessing before I go do my thing, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny you mentioned that movie I just saw.
Speaker 3: We were talking about Robert Rodriguez and when we were
Speaker 3: working together, he had went out of town for something
Speaker 3: and he came back and I was like, I was like,
Speaker 3: where'd you go? He goes, oh, man, I want to
Speaker 3: go meet with stallone. He showed me his new movie,
Speaker 3: his new Rocky And this is the one that you're
Speaker 3: talking about that he had the restaurant, the one with yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: By the way, big shout out to Milo one of
Speaker 1: the most amazing people. Parade man, incredibly talented, and he's yeah,
Speaker 1: we should have him on too, because he's he's just amazing,
Speaker 1: great stories too, Like.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we gotta have him on.
Speaker 2: It's one of my favorite people.
Speaker 3: He had come back and and and mind you, there
Speaker 3: was a big gap right between the previous Rocky and
Speaker 3: that Rocky, the one that he was in. And I
Speaker 3: remember him coming back and saying to me, I mean
Speaker 3: I just saw Stallon's Rocky, which he you know, stepped
Speaker 3: back into the director's chair, he directed it, he wrote it.
Speaker 3: This was like his baby again. And I don't know why.
Speaker 3: I think maybe because the Rocky that was prior to that,
Speaker 3: what was I don't think it was great. I was
Speaker 3: a little cynical, man, I'm not gonna lie. I was like,
Speaker 3: really man, He's like, no, dude, I'm telling you, it's
Speaker 3: really good.
Speaker 2: So what was the storyline of that one? Again? You
Speaker 2: know they had the restaurant right, and.
Speaker 3: He was just like, oh you mean that one with Milo? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 3: Well Adrian dies right, and and you know you kind
Speaker 3: of see him visiting her grave and he he's just
Speaker 3: like a like a like a washed up boxer who like,
Speaker 3: you know, tell stories at a restaurant and then uh,
Speaker 3: what's that? What's the real boxer who was in that
Speaker 3: movie comes back and they're like, hey, it's just sort
Speaker 3: of an exhibition, you know, and and he kind of
Speaker 3: steps back into the ring with Mickey Guns. Right.
Speaker 2: What was it Tommy Guns?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: No, no, that that was one the street brow right.
Speaker 3: That was the one before before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah that was and unfortunate.
Speaker 3: Yeah it wasn't. So that's why I was cynical.
Speaker 1: But it's like with the video game, right, they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: in the video game, Rocky beats this real boxer. Yes, right,
Speaker 1: and then they're like, what is do an exhibition and
Speaker 1: see where it really wins?
Speaker 2: You know. He's like, don't do what are you talking about?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: But what was so genius about that movie? And you know,
Speaker 3: and I was, like I said, I was cynical. Was
Speaker 3: that Stallone made it like this really deep father and
Speaker 3: son's story and like the loss of his wife's story.
Speaker 3: I was expecting her to be dead. And I remember
Speaker 3: watching it on the plane and going like all, Robert said,
Speaker 3: this movie is good, and I put it on and dude,
Speaker 3: like like a quarter into the movie, man, I start
Speaker 3: freaking crying on the airplane.
Speaker 2: That's the loan. Dude, you knows that. I you know,
Speaker 2: I hit the strings and a tear comes.
Speaker 3: Down and I'm like, oh my god, I'm on an
Speaker 3: airplane like crying in this movie.
Speaker 1: That speaks too, this speech that it's played in every
Speaker 1: gym and it's written on every wall.
Speaker 2: You know, anohing's gonna hear you harder than life. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 3: It's brilliant at that. But that's a good one, bro. Well,
Speaker 3: all right, since we're talking about boxing, like Raging Bull,
Speaker 3: Oh my god, there's another one that to me, yes,
Speaker 3: he ranks Scorsese Goodfellas Raging Bull. Yeah, Like I could.
Speaker 3: That's another one that I've seen thirty times. I could
Speaker 3: put it out right now and watch it. There's something
Speaker 3: about the execution and the simplicity of that, right. But
Speaker 3: but as we talk about sort of a boxer's trajectory,
Speaker 3: I felt it was very indicative of a boxer's a
Speaker 3: boxer's trajectory, right ending up as that guy he's like
Speaker 3: forty pounds heavier, Yeah, and he's like at a restaurant
Speaker 3: telling a story.
Speaker 1: And then the nero said in an interview was like
Speaker 1: I'll never do that again, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: He was like the weight, Yeah, yeah, he's like that
Speaker 1: was that was a challenging thing for him to do,
Speaker 1: to put on the weight. Yeah, yeah, I do it
Speaker 1: all the time. Man, I don't know what's a problem.
Speaker 2: It's very easy for me. Three weekends, man, I get
Speaker 2: to you know, say action.
Speaker 5: I'm ready, I'm ready, okay for this fourth movie, the
Speaker 5: final final installment into this four movie journey list.
Speaker 1: Pick something now that that is so unexpected, you know
Speaker 1: that somehow it was original. I think like those movies
Speaker 1: kind of fall in the eighties sometimes for me, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like those colorful movies, you know, like.
Speaker 2: You know, I think like the.
Speaker 3: Like what resonated as a kid, like Back to the.
Speaker 1: Future, right, Like, let me see back to the Future
Speaker 1: is one that really like and I watched all of them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just I just love the Back to the Future movies.
Speaker 1: It's like, well that's really possible. Terminator, yeah, you know Predator, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know those movies that like we're just this single
Speaker 1: singular stamp of like you'll make this movie again with
Speaker 1: different actors and different monsters, or you make this movie
Speaker 1: again with you know, in the future, it'll time travel
Speaker 1: with different you know, with the same formula. You know,
Speaker 1: don't change, don't don't mess with the past, right and
Speaker 1: don't definitely mess with the future, right. Like It's like
Speaker 1: it's always kind of some some things. So what would
Speaker 1: be one of those for you?
Speaker 3: Oh? Man, we're talking about movies like when we were kids. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, like, man, I remember watching like The Last
Speaker 3: star Fighter. You ever see that one? Very good? You know?
Speaker 3: Or or Gremlins.
Speaker 2: Gremlins, Bro, that's another one.
Speaker 3: Dark Crystal. Did you ever see the Dark Dark Crystal?
Speaker 3: I just missed those movies? Man, I miss those type
Speaker 3: of like big Spielberg and.
Speaker 1: Practical stuff probably like the puppeteering and the thing that
Speaker 1: made it feel like you could touch it, that could exist,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I missed those, man. I missed those types of movies,
Speaker 3: and they always and the storytelling was always really good
Speaker 3: on those. But I don't know I have those been replicated.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure that's a really good one.
Speaker 1: I mean when you think about like, like see how
Speaker 1: you you talk about.
Speaker 2: Which ones that you said? You said the Dark Crystal? Right,
Speaker 2: never ending story, never ending story? Right?
Speaker 1: You think about also, like you know, the Harry Potter movies, right,
Speaker 1: Dark Crystal, really like these are movies, these are books
Speaker 1: really kind of like have inspired this multiple generations, you know,
Speaker 1: but the tonal of things of these movies, you know
Speaker 1: where they never ending story. I mean, I think about
Speaker 1: you know, what's another one that could mimic that? Again,
Speaker 1: these movies were so original, I was they were hard
Speaker 1: to duplicate, but that's the formatic or blueprint of the
Speaker 1: narrative was replicated with different with different journeys.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm trying to think what would be one
Speaker 3: that's I mean, any any of those like you were
Speaker 3: we were just talking about, like The working Man that
Speaker 3: just came out, you know, shout out to David Ayr
Speaker 3: who had a hit movie out. But I like that
Speaker 3: they're going back to like that kind of like the Guy,
Speaker 3: you know, like you were just you just named a
Speaker 3: slew of like Arnold Schwarzenegger, like singular man's you know,
Speaker 3: like I love the Commando.
Speaker 2: Another Father Daughters, that's his story.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, true Lies. I just saw True Lies the
Speaker 3: other day man. Probably the best stunts, the best I've
Speaker 3: ever ever seen.
Speaker 2: A Harry the Plane that what was it that? Oh,
Speaker 2: come on, bro, I mean that movie gives me anxiety.
Speaker 3: Man, I'm like it's so, I mean, what movie have
Speaker 3: you seen after that that has had real stunts like that?
Speaker 1: The only one and it basically doesn't even fall anywhere
Speaker 1: near this category would be Rush Hour and that one
Speaker 1: is a prototype of Litho weapon, but a lot more comedic,
Speaker 1: right Letho weapon?
Speaker 2: Yeah, got it right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know got it writing so many uh and
Speaker 1: that was a Donner right, a producer uh and director.
Speaker 3: But I missed those movies, man.
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean there was something very very organic and
Speaker 1: real about those you talked about Greenlins, you know, that
Speaker 1: movie to me was so crazy invative, like just those poppets,
Speaker 1: those things, you know, those things were really banana's. The
Speaker 1: fact that they couldn't eat after midnight, that you couldn't
Speaker 1: have water on their skin, you know, so what did
Speaker 1: that mean?
Speaker 2: They couldn't if they if they eat after midnight.
Speaker 3: But until on soil sunrise, but then after sunrise they
Speaker 3: could eat well.
Speaker 1: Like every day is after my yes, yes, yes, well
Speaker 1: it's like I think that the science was that, Like, dude,
Speaker 1: like if they somehow after midnight they become these monsters,
Speaker 1: and I don't know what the metaphor of that was.
Speaker 2: And then we got to look up at the met.
Speaker 3: Was it like midnight to like sunrise or.
Speaker 1: Something like that, But yeah, because then it was one
Speaker 1: long night of hell, right, and I.
Speaker 2: Think that's kind of what it was.
Speaker 1: And then Gizmolo so you couldn't put water on his
Speaker 1: skin because it will multiply.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that all that stuff is going.
Speaker 3: Can you believe that that's considered like a Christmas movie?
Speaker 3: I was trying to watch that with the kids this
Speaker 3: Christmas and there, and they're kind of like, that's a
Speaker 3: Christmas movie.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I guess it is.
Speaker 3: Man, I really wanted to watch it this Christmas. Ghostbusters, Yeah,
Speaker 3: yeah for that one. I remember having that one on
Speaker 3: video cassette. Did you guys have that in Venezuela, like
Speaker 3: like just the collection of that you just do. There
Speaker 3: was something about having the video cassettes when I was
Speaker 3: a kid. It's like, well, this weekend, although I've seen
Speaker 3: it ten times, we're going to rewatch it again.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I watched what did you have on video cassette in
Speaker 3: Venezuela that Yeah, Cobra.
Speaker 2: And I played that out Bro I used to love that.
Speaker 3: You're the disease, not the cure. Yeah, I remember, I
Speaker 3: remember we had like I remember Death Wish, Death Wish
Speaker 3: one and Charles Bronson. You know what was what was?
Speaker 3: What was? What was Chuck Norris's franchise?
Speaker 1: And he had the Seals right? There wasn't he in
Speaker 1: like the Navy Seals or something. Strike Force wasn't it?
Speaker 1: It was like Delta Force. That's what he was in.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 2: Like you know that motorcycle had missiles. I didn't really, Yes,
Speaker 2: there was that sound and he just shot the motorcycle.
Speaker 3: Wa man, Delta Oh Man. I smember my dad watching
Speaker 3: all that. You ever seen this documentary called Electric Boogoloo
Speaker 3: and it was about it was about the company that
Speaker 3: produced all those movies. They were called Cannon Cannon Films.
Speaker 3: These two guys from Israel, and they're the ones who
Speaker 3: did the break in movies. But they did all the
Speaker 3: Death Wish movies and and Porky's and like you know,
Speaker 3: they brought all that stuff from his Porky Wow for
Speaker 3: Porky's Wow. Dude.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just I hope that everyone who's listening
Speaker 1: or watching us now can literally just grab a little
Speaker 1: piece of paper. Right, all these movies, if you haven't
Speaker 1: watched them, if you've never heard of him, treat yourself
Speaker 1: to the history of cinema, not just as we know it,
Speaker 1: but as as it's been recreated over and over and
Speaker 1: over again. In the likeness of all the movies.
Speaker 3: They can do a port they can do it. Porky's
Speaker 3: now and what about you boy, Tom Hanks Bachelor Party?
Speaker 3: We had that on video because that's amazing.
Speaker 1: Watch that over now the way think about risky business,
Speaker 1: risky business?
Speaker 2: You make that movie now right?
Speaker 3: Right? What was it? What was the premise of that movie?
Speaker 2: Parents go out of town?
Speaker 1: He throws this party, but no he starts ay, I
Speaker 1: think he starts in uh nescal business or something.
Speaker 2: Does he have like all these you know, these dancers
Speaker 2: of the night in something work at his house?
Speaker 1: Remember, like he just started a business with with I'm
Speaker 1: gonna remember what's the log land on that.
Speaker 4: Movie Ectatic When his parents leave on vacation for a
Speaker 4: few days. High school senior Joel good and cuts luice
Speaker 4: with his best friend Miles after an attempt at securing
Speaker 4: the services of a prostitute, goes goes slightly ari Joel
Speaker 4: hires gorgeous Lana for a night of delight, Stunned by
Speaker 4: the amount of Lana's bill. The next morning, Joel grows
Speaker 4: frantic after he crashes his father's Porsche in an effort
Speaker 4: to raise lots of money fast. Desperate, Joel turns the
Speaker 4: house into a brothel.
Speaker 2: Yes, come on, dude, that's Tom Cruises one.
Speaker 1: That's one of Tom Cruise's biggest pop culture movies of
Speaker 1: all time. And people don't remember that, remember that premise.
Speaker 1: They only when they think risk of business. They only
Speaker 1: think about him sliding across the floor and the socks
Speaker 1: and in the dress shirt.
Speaker 2: That's the only thing that will remember. But if you
Speaker 2: listen to that tagline, come on, man, he was a pimp. Yes,
Speaker 2: you go to make that movie now, it's a teenager.
Speaker 3: Pip teenager Tom Cruise pimp.
Speaker 2: That's kind of insane, right, that's a bitch, that's a pitch.
Speaker 2: Here's my pitch, Tom Cruises the teenage. Can't wait for this, dude.
Speaker 3: You know what else we had on video cassette? Did
Speaker 3: you did you ever have did you ever watch Revenge
Speaker 3: of the Nerds? Of course, I mean eventually they wasn't that.
Speaker 2: As an actor I think Paul Figure was in that.
Speaker 3: Was he really? I know?
Speaker 2: Maybe not?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Tim Bussfield and like a but but the original
Speaker 3: one is so well executed. And then they and then
Speaker 3: you see two and three and.
Speaker 2: They they made a lampoon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they became kind of caricatures of themselves. But the
Speaker 3: first one was so grounded. James Cromwell was in that movie.
Speaker 3: And Anthony Edwards from from uh Er he played one
Speaker 3: of the nerds. And and James Cromwell played his dad.
Speaker 2: In that movie you remember stand by Me? Yeah, of course, man,
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 3: Wow, Rob Reiner directed that movie.
Speaker 1: Was in theaters, dude, and you could have made that
Speaker 1: movie again right now?
Speaker 2: Like could that movie ever be? It was the four kids.
Speaker 3: They they go on this thing, they find a dead body.
Speaker 2: See see what I'm talking about?
Speaker 1: See the coloration he see the common denominator about these movies. Yea,
Speaker 1: you know, there was something really live altering happening. It
Speaker 1: was rooted and and the environment, it was rooted in
Speaker 1: their journey as people. And uh, you know, they don't
Speaker 1: write characters like that anymore. They don't write stories that
Speaker 1: are that de boignant and like that heart hitting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, it's It's a shame because stand by Me
Speaker 1: is like, yeah, what if what did you come across?
Speaker 3: That? And that cast River Phoenix Jerry O'Connell, like, man,
Speaker 3: oh man, Rob Ryaner directed that movie. Yeah, so so
Speaker 3: well done. Oh man? You know what else? Did you?
Speaker 3: We had a Field of Dreams on video cassette. Bro,
Speaker 3: you see Field of Dreams?
Speaker 2: Yes, of course, if you're building, they will come.
Speaker 3: Tim Buzzfield was also in that movie. He played the
Speaker 3: I think what was he? Yeah, I think he.
Speaker 1: Played that was I think that's Kevin Costner's probably most
Speaker 1: iconic movie, right, I mean Untouchables was great. Yeah, Dancing
Speaker 1: with Wolves I think it was pretty big for him too,
Speaker 1: Which one you think I think Dancing with Wolves was
Speaker 1: probably the biggest. Yeah, yeah, yeah, by by far, by far,
Speaker 1: But I love him and Untouchables. Yeah, but that was
Speaker 1: like also very popcorn right, like yeah, like yeah.
Speaker 3: Field the Dreams was so like like original, and I
Speaker 3: don't know if they've remade that one at all or
Speaker 3: even taken the blue print.
Speaker 1: He's done a few tributes to it in in Major
Speaker 1: League Baseball where he walks out of the field and
Speaker 1: audiences just go nuts, because in real life, yeah, Oh really,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. It was very cool. What else
Speaker 1: did you have on video cassett and video cassette? I
Speaker 1: had to stand by me?
Speaker 3: Yeah, me too.
Speaker 1: I think we've talked at extend about robo Cup. I
Speaker 1: had RoboCup. I had a RoboCup.
Speaker 2: Yeah, robo Cup is a big one for me. That
Speaker 2: one's one that I used to watch.
Speaker 1: I've said this many times before, but there was one
Speaker 1: movie theater in the small town I grew up in Venezuela,
Speaker 1: and they played robo Cup all year around. So that's
Speaker 1: the movie. I will go watch it and the movie theater.
Speaker 1: What else did I have? I've had, uh D Cobra had,
Speaker 1: I had Rocky Terminator, you know. Of course Terminator is
Speaker 1: like Staple, you had to have that VHS. And then
Speaker 1: other movies that the really kind of mind bended cinema
Speaker 1: at the time. I mean Jaws, yeah, right, like Jows
Speaker 1: was the product that the monster you don't see, yeah
Speaker 1: until it shows itself at the end, you know, accidentally
Speaker 1: but also now on purpose in every movie you know.
Speaker 3: Did they ever play the Warriors in Venezuela?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Warriors clink clean, clean clean clean, come out and
Speaker 1: play that.
Speaker 3: A profound effect on me. We had family in New
Speaker 3: York during that time, and I was like, whoa, that's
Speaker 3: how it is in New York pre Internet. Yeah, it
Speaker 3: was like my perception of what New York was like
Speaker 3: that Walter Hill directed movie excellent.
Speaker 1: Occasionally in Halloween you see people bringing that those customs back,
Speaker 1: and I think some people are like, what.
Speaker 3: Is that the baseball Furies and all that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, those movies are you know, I
Speaker 1: think when when we start really thinking about those films
Speaker 1: and not just the role they played in us as
Speaker 1: as an artist, you know, but also just the audience
Speaker 1: as just simply as people that just went to the
Speaker 1: movies or watched the movies.
Speaker 2: It really redefined cinema.
Speaker 1: And I hope that, you know, that the innovation of
Speaker 1: those movies doesn't stay and independent in the independent film world,
Speaker 1: like I hope that it gets it makes a comeback
Speaker 1: to you know, to to cinemas, to to to the theaters,
Speaker 1: because nowadays, you know, streaming is the place for a
Speaker 1: lot of these movies, and sometimes it's really hard to
Speaker 1: find them, you know, there's just so much out there available.
Speaker 1: But the theaters was a beautiful experience. Occasionally you see
Speaker 1: anniversary screenings of some of these movies, and and and
Speaker 1: it's beautiful to re experience it and in theaters. But
Speaker 1: is there any other movies you want to share?
Speaker 3: What else? What else had an effect on me? You know?
Speaker 3: I remember in high school, like I had, I had
Speaker 3: deep cover on on on on video cassette. Did you
Speaker 3: ever see that Laurence fish Laurence Fishburne and Jeff Goldbloom
Speaker 3: such a such a great great film.
Speaker 2: We speaking of Jeff the Fly. Oh yeah, yeah, David click,
Speaker 2: Come on, don't make movies like that anymore?
Speaker 3: Man? Oh man, No, they don't. Isn't a shame, you know,
Speaker 3: they don't make movies like that anymore? You know. I
Speaker 3: hope we get to a place where where commerce and
Speaker 3: art starts to strike more of a balance more, you know.
Speaker 1: Or or that or that art but not I wouldn't
Speaker 1: say art, but with our industry gives audiences a little
Speaker 1: more credit. Yeah, you know you talk about if if
Speaker 1: if you build it, they will come right like that's
Speaker 1: you know that they they only feel safe producing those
Speaker 1: independent films, you know, because they just they feel like
Speaker 1: people want massive world ending stories if you're going to
Speaker 1: bring them to the movie theaters, but occasionally just run
Speaker 1: away the runaway you know, uh, you know runaway hits
Speaker 1: like get Out, you know where, like that was incredibly
Speaker 1: you know, original, and but they're not betting on those
Speaker 1: horses anymore, right, So I think it's slowly We're gonna
Speaker 1: have to just slowly really kind of champion with that,
Speaker 1: and all of us have to create kind of a
Speaker 1: network of actors and artists are saying like, hey, let's
Speaker 1: stick by this, Let's make these movies. Let's prove that
Speaker 1: the audiences are you know, have been waiting for for
Speaker 1: these two comeback to cinema, so you know, we'll see
Speaker 1: how it goes. But either way, this was another really
Speaker 1: fun conversation at those yeahs. Thank you everyone for listening
Speaker 1: and send us your movies. Tell us what to uh
Speaker 1: you know what you guys, what you guys grew up watching.
Speaker 1: We love to uh, we love to hear that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you grew up watching what was in your
Speaker 3: video cassette drawer? What was in your DVD drawer? What
Speaker 3: is I want to know why what you grew up
Speaker 3: watching and why those movies resonated with you absolutely?
Speaker 4: What's a video cassette drawer.
Speaker 3: You gen Zer you, Leo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know gen Z Wanna Beard.
Speaker 1: You know that guy's at three six Mafia over there, right,
Speaker 1: So wait, what.
Speaker 2: Do you are you Jen.
Speaker 3: Lenia? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Well until the next episode of Those Amigos, I'm
Speaker 1: Wilmer abal Dorama.
Speaker 3: I'm Freddy Rodriguez.
Speaker 2: See you on the next one.
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Speaker 1: This episode was shot and edited it by Ryan Posts
Speaker 1: and mixed by Sean Tracy and features original music by
Speaker 1: Madison Devenport and Halo Boy.
Speaker 3: Our cover art photography is by David Avalos and designed
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