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Speaker 1: San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe.

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Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison

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Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging

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Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGinty committed the ultimate judicial sin.

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Speaker 2: Why did you do it?

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Speaker 1: I did it because I was foolish.

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Speaker 2: Listen to how to Bribe a Judge on Revolver podcast

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Speaker 3: The John Nnick and Kenny Florian Podcast John Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, here're your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 4: And a good day to you wherever you may be listening.

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Speaker 4: We appreciate it as always. It is Monday, August twenty seven,

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Speaker 4: twenty eighteen. This is episode one hundred and sixty eight

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Speaker 4: of the Anic Imploring Podcast. I'm not sure how we

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Speaker 4: got there, but we're happy you've been along for partner

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Speaker 4: all of the ride. Today's show brought to you by

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Speaker 4: May Rocky BJJ. We have the co founder and owner

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Speaker 4: Ken Flow with us today. Ken Flow, I'm thinking the

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Speaker 4: BJJ Fundamentals class tonight seven fifteen for me what do

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Speaker 4: you think.

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Speaker 5: I think you should be there. I think you should

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Speaker 5: be there. We'll put you through the ringer. Just use

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Speaker 5: belts allowed, always white belts allowed. Yeah, so we do,

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Speaker 5: we try to separate it. We do fundamentals, we do

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Speaker 5: just white belts. I mean, we do get other higher

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Speaker 5: ranks who can come and join the class, but that

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Speaker 5: is specifically built for learning the fundamental learning the fundamentals,

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Speaker 5: learning the basics of Brazilian jujitsu.

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Speaker 6: And yeah, it's it's been quite popular.

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Speaker 4: thirty eight, tell them John Annessential, what can you do

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Speaker 4: for me? And just see what they say, you know,

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Speaker 4: Ken Flow's not answering phones, but see what they say.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 4: Down here in South Florida, by the way, we have

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Speaker 4: May Rocky Beauty Studio, really three different locations.

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Speaker 6: In Florida trying to steal my name.

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Speaker 4: Wow, I was gonna say, May Rocky bjj's attorneys will

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Speaker 4: be contacted in May Rocky's Beauty studio. Hopefully they don't

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Speaker 4: pre date May Rocky BJJ. But it's good to see you, man.

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Speaker 4: I know it was a busy weekend for you. We

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Speaker 4: always love when we forced you to make the quick

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Speaker 4: turn post fight show right to the Anak and Florian podcast.

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Speaker 4: I know you asked Fox if we can just repurpose

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Speaker 4: that audio from the post fight show.

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Speaker 6: I'm very upset with you. I'm very upset with you.

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Speaker 5: I told you, I told you, I texted you that

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Speaker 5: I wanted to pick Gai Chee, except I texted you

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Speaker 5: after the fight, so yeah.

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Speaker 6: But I did text it for the record.

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Speaker 5: For the record, I want people to know I picked

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Speaker 5: Gaichie on UFC tonight, and I picked Gaichee on the

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Speaker 5: pre show.

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Speaker 4: So, and there were a lot of different reasons why

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Speaker 4: you picked James Vick on this show. And part of

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Speaker 4: it was because you're you're chasing on the scoreboard the

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Speaker 4: main event challenge and you need points, so that was

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Speaker 4: a part of it, and maybe there were some other

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Speaker 4: picker went geechee, I think there was some impetus for

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Speaker 4: you to go the other way, and you articulated as much.

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Speaker 4: But it was funny because when you set up your

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Speaker 4: vic pick, you talked a lot about Gaichee's boxing and

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Speaker 4: set up the scenario for Justin to win, so much

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Speaker 4: so that I had written down Geechee and then we know.

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Speaker 6: Me too well, you know the code words I use.

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Speaker 6: I know, but.

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Speaker 4: Alas it's a losing week for you, and if you

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Speaker 4: want me to up to the standings, I will. You

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Speaker 4: lost the week six to three, So from ninety six

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Speaker 4: eighty good on our man, Giovanni Romagnoli. By the way,

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Speaker 4: from the UK one oh two eighty nine for Team Annik.

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Speaker 4: So again we saw that lead shave to eight points back.

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Speaker 6: Good job. That was good. All right.

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Speaker 4: So I know people like to bang on Ken Flow

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Speaker 4: for his predictions, but he does reserve the right on

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Speaker 4: the Anakin Flooring podcast to make a pick on Monday

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Speaker 4: and then six days later on Saturday, make it change.

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Speaker 4: He just has to text me before beforehand. He did

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Speaker 4: of that fucking bullshit. Let's talk about Justin Gaegee. Because

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Speaker 4: when I retire as a UFC commentator, I'm gonna walk

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Speaker 4: around in a Team Geechee T shirt. I can't do

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Speaker 5: You know, I think so many times when you see

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Speaker 5: no matter what was going on around them they were

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Speaker 5: they allowed that to shine, and that's who Gaichee is.

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Speaker 5: You know everyone's saying, Getchie, why don't you fight smarter?

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Speaker 5: Why don't you try to win rounds? Supposed to try

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Speaker 5: to knock people's teeth out? Well, that's his style and

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Speaker 5: He is absolutely fearless. I've said it before, I'll say

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Speaker 5: night out Gee Chee. It doesn't matter. Geie Chee is

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Speaker 5: Honestly, he can write his own ticket to a lot

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Speaker 5: of other fight Night main events, that's for sure. If

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Speaker 6: By most I would say, the elite.

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Speaker 6: But I tell you what, I like his chances against a.

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Speaker 4: But this was not good for James Vick. I thought

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Speaker 4: One right hand lands and Vic is down and out.

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Speaker 5: You know, one of the disadvantages of having certain physical

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Speaker 4: But the story is justin Gaichee, man, and this one

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Speaker 5: I think he's fighting best when he is actually backpedaling

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Speaker 5: It's hard to say goodbye. But this was a goodbye

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Speaker 4: So Congrats to Jake Ellenberger on an outstanding UFC career,

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Speaker 4: and his name is is littered across the UFC welch

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Speaker 4: Away record books when it comes to knockdowns in a

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Speaker 4: lot of other categories. So congrats to Jake Ellenberger as

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Speaker 4: he moves into retirement. Nowhere near retirement, Ray Longo, let's

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Speaker 4: get to him.

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Speaker 3: It's now time for the minute.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna punch a hole in That's what i.

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Speaker 3: Want, Ray long Minute. John Nick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 4: Podcast, Well Flo Man De Ray Longo and I live

445
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Speaker 4: different lives these days. I am just in it with

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Speaker 4: three kids, Like my whole world's going to hell, and

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Speaker 4: this guy is going skins on Instagram for the world

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Speaker 4: to see.

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Speaker 8: I guess Flaunett, if you've got it Ray Longo, right, I.

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Speaker 7: Can tell you I don't even know if I'm talking

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Speaker 7: to him today.

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Speaker 9: He's been doing that, so I do not even know

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Speaker 9: if we might even we might not be talking for

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Speaker 9: a while. This could be a two weaker, but uh hey,

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Speaker 9: all I got is one thing to say, John, I'm

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Speaker 9: going to rush your wretch, buddy.

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Speaker 7: We're wrench This is huge.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you're absolutely right.

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Speaker 7: Thank you very much. Justin gage you.

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Speaker 9: I'm gonna buy you something in Russia.

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Speaker 4: Well, if you missed last week's episode, Ray Longo made

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Speaker 4: one hundred dollars he correctly predicted Justin Gaetge's betting underdog

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Speaker 4: to beat James Vick. So you're up to two hundred

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Speaker 4: and fifty dollars provided go to Russia money.

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Speaker 9: I don't even know what I'm gonna do. I really know,

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Speaker 9: this is like a dream come true. Guys, I don't

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Speaker 9: know what money you know.

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Speaker 4: So so we saw you sundathing.

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Speaker 7: Good to see that, so go good for you. You

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Speaker 7: could be an Elvis in person.

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Speaker 6: Really the.

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Speaker 8: Really, I don't know the show.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if it's a midlife crisis, but I'm

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Speaker 4: having some issues these days. Ray n thus the glasses today.

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Speaker 4: But for the people who are just ingesting this via audio,

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Speaker 4: you're not missing anything. But I just wanted last thing

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Speaker 4: and then we'll move on to.

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Speaker 8: Mixed martial arts.

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Speaker 4: I'm seeing you on Instagram, no shirt, sunbathing after a

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Speaker 4: hard pad session, like you're twenty two years old again

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Speaker 4: me like are your daughters? Like are they seeing you

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Speaker 4: going skins on Instagram?

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Speaker 6: In two thousand?

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna say you.

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Speaker 9: So my whole family doesn't even know what I do

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Speaker 9: at this point, no clue.

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Speaker 7: I'm not allowed to mention anybody's that. I got rules in

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Speaker 7: my house.

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Speaker 9: I can't mention anybody's name if they knew I put

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Speaker 9: up a picture of him, Nick crazy.

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Speaker 7: I don't know.

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Speaker 9: They want nothing to do with any type of limelight

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Speaker 9: or anything. But h yeah, I'm seeing they have no clue.

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Speaker 8: And it's funny.

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Speaker 4: You don't want the limelight. It just finds you. You're

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Speaker 4: in all these short films and podcasts and everything else.

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Speaker 7: H life is good, John, life is good.

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Speaker 6: Come on, all right?

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Speaker 4: So Justin Geechee, you know, I just love this guy, man,

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Speaker 4: I love everything about him. And I think that UFC

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Speaker 4: fans really are starting to embrace this guy. Obviously, he's

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Speaker 4: had a lot of high profile opportunities. This was his

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Speaker 4: third UFC main event. Man, did he maximize the showcase

504
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Speaker 4: this weekend?

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Speaker 7: Ray?

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Speaker 9: And I gotta tell you, I'm agreeing with you one

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Speaker 9: hundred percent because I'm in that category. I think after

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Speaker 9: this fight, I really embrace just Justin Gaegee different than

509
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Speaker 9: I did even before that. I really I loved the sincerity,

510
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Speaker 9: I love his honesty. I love his commitment to the sport.

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Speaker 9: I love his Duo die attitude is I think this

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Speaker 9: guy's a good dude man. Like again, I had the

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Speaker 9: pleasure of just talking him for a couple of minutes

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Speaker 9: in Vegas. He seemed like a nice, humble, good dude man,

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Speaker 9: and I wish the guy the best, I really do.

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Speaker 9: I thought that was a phenomenal fight for him. His

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Speaker 9: back was against the wall. You know, he had two losses,

518
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Speaker 9: two wars that could take a toll on you, and

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Speaker 9: he fought a real problem in James Vick with the

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Speaker 9: height and everything. And now I'm glad he got the

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Speaker 9: job done the and the way he got it done.

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Speaker 9: I think that's that spells justin Gagee right.

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Speaker 5: There and right you know, with his fighting style, I

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Speaker 5: think he has the ability to beat anyone or lose

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Speaker 5: to anyone in the top ten.

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Speaker 6: But do you think he could be a champion in

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Speaker 6: this sport, in the UFC Uh.

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Speaker 7: I'm starting to believe yes he can. I really do.

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Speaker 9: He's gotta I mean, I love We've talked about this before, Kenny.

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Speaker 9: I'd love to see him. I think this was the

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Speaker 9: first time we saw him with a little more patience. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: and uh, you know, a little more calculated, and uh,

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Speaker 9: I think that's gonna serve him, serve him well. And

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Speaker 9: I'm gonna tell you some Kenny, you give this guy

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Speaker 9: anybody like below, like above, like a number five rank guy,

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Speaker 9: or he's gonna he's gonna roll right through him. I

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Speaker 9: think he's got that type of style right, and I

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Speaker 9: think he's bringing that X factor and everybody knows they're

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Speaker 9: gonna be in for a fight, you know. And I'm

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Speaker 9: and I gotta tell you, I'm not sure if he

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Speaker 9: had a rematch with with Dustin already Albarez. He doesn't

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Speaker 9: win those fights. I mean he was in that fight.

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Speaker 9: Those fights, you know, came down to attrition, and I

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Speaker 9: think he makes a couple of adjustments.

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Speaker 7: He's getting those losses back.

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Speaker 8: That's a great point.

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Speaker 4: And I can almost assure you if Sean Shelby texted

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Speaker 4: Dustin Poorrier and said do you want to fight X

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Speaker 4: or why? And why is gaetchee? He probably don't care

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Speaker 4: who the other guy is. He's fighting the other guy man,

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Speaker 4: you know, I mean squad to shreds, you know, exactly.

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Speaker 4: So I just want to ask you a question because

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Speaker 4: you have to see two twenty eight is on the

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Speaker 4: horizon here coming up September eighth, And I know next

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Speaker 4: week when we talk to you, much of the focus

556
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Speaker 4: will be on Aljamin Sterling. But you cornered Matt Sarah

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Speaker 4: when he beat George Saint Pierre as a massive betting underdog.

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Speaker 4: And I don't know if I want any specifics on

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Speaker 4: this matchup between Nico Montagno and Valentina Chevchenko, right, but

560
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Speaker 4: there are some similarities to be drawn here. Nico Montango

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Speaker 4: is probably the biggest championship underdog in UFC history in

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Speaker 4: terms of the incumbent as betting underdog. What do you

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Speaker 4: advise the fighter in that situation? Because you can't help

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Speaker 4: but have some doubt creep in if you're Montango when

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Speaker 4: Chevchenko has been almost anointed the champion before she even

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Speaker 4: fights for the title, Like, if you're those coaches, forget

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Speaker 4: the physical stuff mentally, what are you trying to say

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Speaker 4: to Montango to get her head in a good place

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Speaker 4: so she can go defend this belt and win the fight?

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Speaker 9: I mean, look, obviously you want to, you know, you

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Speaker 9: you really want to set up a training schedule for

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Speaker 9: her where she's you know, where she really learns how

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Speaker 9: to develop the belief in herself and that you bring

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Speaker 9: in certain people that could mimic what's going on and whatever.

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Speaker 9: I think this for Montoyo, it's going to be more

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Speaker 9: of a head game physically. Yeah, I'm saying as a coach,

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Speaker 9: she's totally out of that fight. I mean, this is

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Speaker 9: a weird situation because Valentine is a coldstone killer and

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Speaker 9: she's going up against the girl. I think it's different

580
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Speaker 9: than Matt's case. Matt was a fighter in the UFC

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Speaker 9: with a comeback story. This girl really has never gotten

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Speaker 9: a chance to develop or fight other people in the UFC.

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Speaker 7: You know, she was on a show with other people

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Speaker 7: that developed a champion.

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Speaker 9: I mean, I could almost make a case for the

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Speaker 9: Athletic Commission saying they're not going to let the fight happen.

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Speaker 9: I mean, the experience different between these you know what

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Speaker 9: I'm saying, Because it's not like Montoyo was in the

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Speaker 9: UFC and she beat the champion, the current champion. Of course,

590
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Speaker 9: they created a division and she became the champion. So

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Speaker 9: the odds are really stacked against her. You know, even Matt,

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Speaker 9: he had to fight other people that were already in

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Speaker 9: the UFC, that maybe had notable wins over other people,

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Speaker 9: there was much more to work with Matt. You know,

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Speaker 9: he had a pedigree of jiu jitsu at the time,

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Speaker 9: which was phenomenal.

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Speaker 7: You know, I'm not seeing this is a really big

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Speaker 7: challenge for this kid.

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Speaker 9: I mean, I would say if Montoya won, that would

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Speaker 9: be by far the biggest upset ever because I think

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Speaker 9: she's in a lot of trouble in this fight. But

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Speaker 9: to answer your first question, I would just try to

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Speaker 9: get squared away and really, you know, along the way

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Speaker 9: really developed a belief that you could do it, and

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Speaker 9: to try to find a weakness.

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Speaker 7: In Valentino, which I think is going to be hard

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Speaker 7: to do.

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Speaker 9: I mean psychologically with Matt and Saint Pierre, Matt was psychologically.

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Speaker 7: At a way higher level than George at the time,

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Speaker 7: you know what I mean. He knew George had certain uh.

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Speaker 9: Uh you know, like a I think he knew he

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Speaker 9: George was a nervous fighter because Georgie had coached him

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Speaker 9: on season four.

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Speaker 7: So mentally, I think Matt felt he had a.

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Speaker 9: Huge advantage going in and that was you know, that's

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Speaker 9: a fighter at hart Man.

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Speaker 7: He was a street fighter.

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Speaker 5: Had some serious you know, Brazilian elite, Brazilian gents to

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Speaker 5: black belt knockout power.

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Speaker 6: He wasn't a one trick pony. There's a lot of

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Speaker 6: ways that he could have potentially won that fight where

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Speaker 6: you know Montani here he's out gunned.

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Speaker 7: I mean, oh no, no, this is a problem.

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Speaker 9: I'm telling you, Kenny, I could make a case for

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Speaker 9: the Athletic Commission saying we're not letting the fight happen.

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Speaker 7: That's how bad it is.

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Speaker 9: I mean, that's how I'm feeling, and I don't want

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Speaker 9: to get down because, like again, I think it's anything

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Speaker 9: could happen in MMA. But you know, like what Matt,

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Speaker 9: Matt was a fena at Henzo Gracis, you know what

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Speaker 9: I mean.

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Speaker 7: And George was training this, so I'm sure he.

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Speaker 9: Had to hear all the stories of guys that would

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Speaker 9: tap in him that we're getting killed by Matt.

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Speaker 7: So we we knew, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 9: We knew that George thought Matt was gonna want to

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Speaker 9: take this to the floor and had no. We didn't

638
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Speaker 9: have one desire to go to the floor with that fight.

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Speaker 9: I sweared them away as best I could standing up.

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Speaker 9: We knew a couple of things. I saw a couple

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Speaker 9: of things, and he he was the guy that was

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Speaker 9: going to exploit it, and that's what we did. But

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Speaker 9: I knew that George just hearing about Matt at the

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Speaker 9: academy to be psychologically debilitating, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 9: That's what I was banking on anyone. And at that time,

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Speaker 9: Matt again, I mean, he was one of the best

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Speaker 9: jiu jitsu black belts there was at the time, you know,

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Speaker 9: so it was a little different, I think, but Montoyo's

649
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Speaker 9: really got a handsful.

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Speaker 7: It's like it's a I think it's a totally different thing. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: No, And I did not intend to force the parallel

652
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Speaker 4: and Matt Sarah will probably again, No, it's good.

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Speaker 7: That you did. I'm just saying, I you know, when

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Speaker 7: you're asking.

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Speaker 9: Me to analyze it, I'm like, well, when I first

656
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 9: heard of it, I'm like, wow, this is not this

657
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 9: is really almost uneven, like completely and it's not like

658
00:29:58,560 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 9: you want a championship.

659
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 7: You defended it a couple of times or anything, or

660
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 7: you beat that.

661
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 9: You know, she's really hasn't had the ability to grow yet.

662
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 9: And that's uh, that's that's to me is the problem.

663
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Speaker 7: You know where Valentine to look at all the fights

664
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Speaker 7: she's had.

665
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Speaker 9: Now, this is unnatural, right, But they didn't even have

666
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 9: this weight list, you know, so oh this is tough, man,

667
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 9: really tough.

668
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 8: Yeah.

669
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Speaker 4: Man, Well, and that's why I think I was soliciting

670
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 4: the coaching advice, because I feel like, you sit Nico

671
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 4: Montano down to watch film of Chevchenko, that's not gonna

672
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 4: put her head in a good place, right, you know

673
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:36,239
Speaker 4: where to even begin to watch film on Valentin right

674
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,479
Speaker 4: with all the UFC experience that's been accrued and all

675
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 4: the striking accolades and everything else.

676
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 7: So yeah, yeah, now.

677
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Speaker 9: You're right though, man, watching those tapes, that was almost

678
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 9: like Anderson Silva. I didn't want to watch Chris watching

679
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 9: a highlight tape of that guy because that guy had

680
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 9: a highlight reel from hell, you know what I mean.

681
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 9: It's hard to get your head when you're looking at

682
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Speaker 9: this guy humiliating people over the list seven years. So right,

683
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 9: I would look, I'm gonna, if i'm hook coach, I'm

684
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 9: gonna find one thing that I think is a weakness,

685
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 9: and that's all I'm gonna base everything around, and it's

686
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 9: gonna be kind of like a hail Mary you're gonna

687
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 9: have to take a shot. There's nothing else she could do.

688
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 9: But I mean, she just doesn't have the chops to

689
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 9: be in there with that girl right now. I don't

690
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 9: think in one area or this fight.

691
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 4: Well, we'll find out UFC two twenty eight, September eighth.

692
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 4: The next week, Ray an opportunity for you to win

693
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 4: another scene out, Darren till Tyron Woodley will get the

694
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 4: pick from you next Monday. We'll get the update on

695
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 4: Aljoe and all that good stuff. Anything else I went to,

696
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 4: maybe getting a date.

697
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 8: What's going on?

698
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 6: He's gonna retire soon. It's crazy.

699
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 7: I'm thinking the money and run. I'm not a gambler.

700
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 7: I want my money.

701
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 4: Oh wait, Yo, you want an opportunity to cash out

702
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 4: right now? At two hundred and fifty dollars is how

703
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 4: you're telling me.

704
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 7: I don't want an opportunity. I'm telling you I'm cashing out.

705
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 8: Okay.

706
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 4: I might have to figure out a way to change

707
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 4: the stakes, because I was hoping you could get this

708
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 4: thing up to a I'm or something and then we're

709
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 4: really making money here. But I know you got a

710
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 4: busy day. I know you had a bad pad session

711
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 4: this morning. So we'll let you get back to it.

712
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 7: I mean, thank you, We're all good. I'm going out

713
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 7: in the back by the trains again. I'm gonna sit

714
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 7: out there and contemplate the meaning of life.

715
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 8: All right, dude, keep your shirt on today, bubb We'll

716
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 8: talk to you next week. All right, thank you man.

717
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 7: Anybody I got to Sayilla.

718
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 8: Well, I'm gonna keep them. They'll be here next week.

719
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 8: Thank you.

720
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Speaker 9: Ray.

721
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:32,479
Speaker 8: All right.

722
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 4: Ray long ago with us every week here on the

723
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 4: Anakin Florian Podcast, and interesting conversation developed there, Kenny in

724
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 4: terms of Matt, Sarah, George, Saint Pierre, but Nico Montango

725
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 4: and Valentina Chipchenko. I brought it up because seemingly Nico

726
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 4: Montagno is really up against it come September eighth, not

727
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 4: not just in terms of the betting odds, but just

728
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 4: in terms of what type of performance she's gonna have

729
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 4: to put forth to beat Valentina Chefchenko. So I just

730
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 4: would ask you as an mma mind, as I asked

731
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 4: Ray as a coach, like what do you do to

732
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,479
Speaker 4: try to hammer in some self belief and just to

733
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Speaker 4: give your fighter, even though she's up against it, the

734
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 4: best chance to try to shock the world.

735
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Speaker 5: Right Listen, I don't know the whole thing about self believe.

736
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,959
Speaker 5: If you get if you get a fighter who is

737
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 5: not confident in themselves, I don't know if they should

738
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Speaker 5: be there in the first place.

739
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Speaker 6: I think the best approach.

740
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 5: Is to show them what they need to do technically

741
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 5: to win the fight, where they need to stay away

742
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 5: from the dangers of a Valentiner to Chevchenko, for example,

743
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 5: and what they need to do fundamentally to win that fight.

744
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 5: That's not easy either, that's the problem. You know, Chevchenko's

745
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 5: coming in here with so much experience. But also I

746
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 5: think if you're going to talk about the mental aspect,

747
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 5: you hammer home the fact that she was the underdog

748
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 5: on The Ultimate Fighter. No one really gave her a chance.

749
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 5: She didn't have a whole lot of experience, but she

750
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 5: went out there and won the fight anyway. She won

751
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 5: each in every fight, and she was the underdog every

752
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 5: single time out.

753
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Speaker 6: So I think you kind of hammer that home more

754
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 6: than anything else.

755
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 5: But I think you got to talk about the technical

756
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 5: skills that she needs to win that fight more than

757
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 5: the mental aspects. I think she's mentally tough. I think

758
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 5: she proved that in the Ultimate Fighter.

759
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Speaker 8: Yep.

760
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Speaker 4: And next week we will get a prediction from can

761
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 4: Flow and he'll tell you and outline what Nico Montania

762
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 4: does need to do strategically to defy the odds and

763
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 4: be the first woman in UFC history to successfully defend

764
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 4: the women's flyweight Championship. All right, a couple other things,

765
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 4: few items on Lincoln and then a couple other headlines,

766
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 4: time permitting Davis and Figueto. A winner by TKO over

767
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 4: John Moraga. So if you don't know this Brazilian flyweight contender,

768
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 4: you're gonna hear the name soon. Just don't ask me

769
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 4: to spell it. I can say it. But he's fifteen

770
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 4: and oh can Flow thirteen finishes four and oh in

771
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 4: the UFC third knockout in the UFC A stoppage of

772
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 4: the UFC test to John Moraga over the weekend. I

773
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 4: know you're not all in yet on Figa Eddo, but

774
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 4: certainly another injection of nice talent into a division that

775
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 4: could use it.

776
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 5: I got my feet in the water though. I tell

777
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 5: you that I think this is a guy who can go.

778
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 5: He's aggressive, he's always looking for the finish. I was

779
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 5: impressed with him, you know, I said in the pre

780
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 5: Fight Show. But this is a guy that it seems

781
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,760
Speaker 5: like you wind him up, you put some powerful batteries

782
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 5: in him, you slap him on the ass, and he

783
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,760
Speaker 5: goes out there and fights and he does not stop moving. Wow,

784
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 5: what a problem that guy is. He is fun to watch, man, exciting,

785
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 5: He's got skills everywhere. And again he beat a guy

786
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 5: in Moraga who's pretty damn tough, and he made it

787
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 5: look very easy. Just crushed him with the elbow, That's

788
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 5: really what started it. Then he took him down with

789
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 5: some other punches that put him down. Man, unbelievable.

790
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's an exciting fighter to watch it. I think

791
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 4: he has a style that a lot of fans are

792
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 4: gonna be able to relate to. And Moraga man just

793
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 4: so tough, you know. And then throwing a spinning backfist

794
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 4: I believe of his own that sort of put him

795
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 4: back in the fight.

796
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 8: That one had a lot of different layers.

797
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,240
Speaker 4: But I just think when you look at this flyway

798
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 4: division now that is run by Henry Shudo, Alex Perez

799
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 4: who was on the show recently, Jared Brooks, Jose Torres,

800
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 4: there are a lot of young talented flyweights that I'm

801
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 4: excited to see going forward. All right, Tony Ferguson, we

802
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 4: led the show with him last weekend. Fo he now

803
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 4: has an opponent. It'll be Anthony Showtime Pettis UFC two

804
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 4: twenty nine. That's the co main event on the night

805
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 4: that Conor McGregor fights. Got even Dermago medow. I love

806
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 4: that Ferguson is on this timeline. I love that he

807
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 4: is on this fight card and seems like he felt

808
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 4: disrespected by Team Pettis back in twenty fourteen when both

809
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 4: of these guys competed and won by submission at UFC

810
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 4: one to eighty one. So nice little backdrop to this

811
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 4: comine event. And as we said last week, El Kukui's back.

812
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 4: He now has an opponent.

813
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 6: This is a fight, man. I love this fight.

814
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 5: I saw this announcement from Pettis earlier and I said, whoa,

815
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 5: because not only is this a great fight for Pettest

816
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 5: to really get back in the mix.

817
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 6: Obviously his last fight was phenomenal.

818
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 5: That was the Anthony Pettis that I think a lot

819
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 5: of people have been waiting for for the last few years.

820
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,760
Speaker 5: He showed up, He looked great, He's in the right division,

821
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 5: He's no longer fighting at one forty five, and Ferguson

822
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 5: does make mistakes. He's not the most technical guy, but

823
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 5: he is very, very tough. He's a guy that, of course,

824
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 5: can give a lot of problems to Anthony Pettis. I

825
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 5: could see Ferguson finishing this one, but I can also

826
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 5: see Pettis getting to finish in this one as well.

827
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 5: If that last Petus showed up man, a win over

828
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 5: Ferguson would put him right into the top five. All

829
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 5: of a sudden, it seems that is a risky fight

830
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 5: for Tony Ferguson. You look at everything that Tony Ferguson

831
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 5: has done, all of his wins, all his momentum, all

832
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 5: of his consistency, and he's taken on a guy and

833
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 5: in Pettis who has just recently found his form. Again,

834
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 5: that's a tough one. But again, you know Ferguson, He's

835
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 5: not gonna say no to a fight, right And that's

836
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 5: the rub for me.

837
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 4: This is just a fighters fighter, because if he wanted

838
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 4: to bide his time and allow himself more time to

839
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 4: heal and try to return in a championship setting, Ferguson

840
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 4: would certainly have a case to do that right. It's

841
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 4: a double digit win streak that he's putting on the

842
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 4: line against Anthony Showtime at us in a dangerous fight.

843
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 8: As you mentioned. I absolutely love it.

844
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 4: And hopefully Ferguson doesn't realize the championship opportunity that night,

845
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 4: because that would.

846
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 8: Mean that either kabieber Connor was unable to compete.

847
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 4: But I just love this lightweight force them now that

848
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 4: sits atop the pay per view at UFC two twenty nine,

849
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 4: all right, at top of the pay per view UFC

850
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 4: two thirty two.

851
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 6: End of the year.

852
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 4: This was announced between our last show last Tuesday and

853
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 4: our show today. Chris Cyborg, Amanda NOONEZ, it shall be done.

854
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 4: NOONEZ asked for some extra time to put on some

855
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 4: weight for what is absolutely a super fight between champions.

856
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,720
Speaker 4: Here asking you shall receive So Amanda None is engaged

857
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 4: to Nina answer off and she has a date with

858
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 4: Chris Cyborg before the year is out. Your thoughts on

859
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 4: the UFC Featherweight Championship fight coming up at two thirty two.

860
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 5: History in the making. This is the first female super

861
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 5: fight in the UFC. It is amazing. Listen, these are

862
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 5: the only two ladies that can beat each other. In

863
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 5: my opinion, you look at skill wise, the experience that

864
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 5: they have. I don't know if there's anyone out there

865
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 5: who could beat Amana Nunez, and I don't think there's

866
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 5: anyone out there who could beat Cyborg. These two ladies

867
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 5: can get it done. They have tremendous firepower. They're strong

868
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 5: for their divisions, they're big for their divisions. Both good

869
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 5: on the ground. This is a fight that had to happen.

870
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 5: They've been talking about it now for the last couple

871
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,439
Speaker 5: of years. They both finally signed signed on the dotted line,

872
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Speaker 5: and I'm happy that they did. Man, this is a

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Speaker 5: tremendous fight. And again, these are women who know how

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Speaker 5: to deliver action. They become a little bit more patient

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Speaker 5: the last couple of years. They would, you know, typically

876
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Speaker 5: take out their opposition with tremendous ferocity, but they become

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00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,280
Speaker 5: more patient that they know how to let their hands

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Speaker 5: go and when to let their hands go, and when

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Speaker 5: they do that, they will most likely take you out.

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Speaker 5: This is a very interesting fight, and I think it's

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Speaker 5: a little bit more difficult to call.

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Speaker 4: And then people realize, right, and I think the betting

883
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 4: line will dovetail with that assessment, and it isn't Cyborg

884
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Speaker 4: versus Rousey, but I think for a lot of mixed

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Speaker 4: martial arts fans, this is the most excited day will

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Speaker 4: ever be for a women's fight. I cannot wait to

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Speaker 4: see it. I can't wait to see the betting line

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Speaker 4: when it comes out. I can't wait to see what

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Speaker 4: type of physical changes Amanda Nonz has made in advance

890
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Speaker 4: of this particular challenge. And for Chris Cyborg Kenny, this

891
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Speaker 4: will be the second time in as many years that

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Speaker 4: she will headline that year end showcase event for the UFC,

893
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Speaker 4: and I give her a lot of credit for moving

894
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Speaker 4: the pay per view needle and the UFC for having

895
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Speaker 4: the confidence to give her that opportunity. But there's a

896
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Speaker 4: lot of talk out there about Cyborg's fighting prime and

897
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Speaker 4: how during her fighting prime, which she is experiencing right now,

898
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Speaker 4: she can't fight every three months right like she is

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Speaker 4: as willing as any champion. We have to get back

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Speaker 4: in there on a regular schedule, competing three or four

901
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Speaker 4: times a year, and she cannot do that. From a

902
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Speaker 4: monetary standpoint, you could argue the best thing for Cyborg

903
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Speaker 4: would be to lose to Amanda Nunez, so she can

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Speaker 4: run it back with you, right, And like, so, I

905
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Speaker 4: know Chris Cyborg moves the needle, but if she wins

906
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Speaker 4: this fight against Amanda Nenez and it's dominant, a lot

907
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Speaker 4: of people are gonna say the cupboard is bear for

908
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Speaker 4: Cyborg once again.

909
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Speaker 5: And can we say that this far is really for

910
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Speaker 5: legendary status because the woman who wins this fight is

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Speaker 5: going to be the greatest female fighter ever in the UFC.

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Speaker 5: I think it's pretty safe to say, based on the

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Speaker 5: skills that they possess and the women that they've beaten,

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Speaker 5: I think that that's what's on the line, even more

915
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Speaker 5: than that belt.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I would agree, Chris Iborgamanda None is coming

917
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Speaker 4: up at the end of the year. I think it's

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Speaker 4: December twenty eighth or twenty ninth, Team Mobile Arena in

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Speaker 4: Las Vegas, SORR final thing before we go today.

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Speaker 8: Connor McGregor, c Bebnrmago Medov forty days out.

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Speaker 4: So it seems like a lot of the masses feel

922
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Speaker 4: like you have already picked Connor McGregor to win this fight.

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Speaker 6: I know you have.

924
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Speaker 4: Well I don't know, but I think I might deserve

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Speaker 4: some blame because I hinted on our show that it

926
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Speaker 4: seemed to me that your early analysis was moving in

927
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Speaker 4: that direction. But forty days out, you haven't made your determination.

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Speaker 4: You haven't watched all the film and correct me if

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Speaker 4: I'm wrong, But you could absolutely go either way, and

930
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Speaker 4: you really don't know where you're gonna go. Come the

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Speaker 4: first week of oufll.

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Speaker 5: Listen style if anything, style wise, I'm leading towards Habib

933
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Speaker 5: and Nermaga Manov, So I find that interesting. But just mentally,

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Speaker 5: this is a very different fight than Habib has had

935
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Speaker 5: to deal with. And now you look at these recent

936
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Speaker 5: comments from Conna McGregor. He Connor McGregor, you know, this

937
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Speaker 5: guy is like a psychologist. He looks at where you're weak,

938
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Speaker 5: or where you might be vulnerable, or where what might

939
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Speaker 5: agitate you the most, and he goes at that. He

940
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Speaker 5: goes at you repeatedly. He is going to poke that

941
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Speaker 5: cut repeatedly. What is he He's talking about the doc

942
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Speaker 5: his relationship between the Dakistanis and the Chechens, and that's like.

943
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Speaker 6: A you know, a long history of.

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Speaker 5: Let's say bitterness and kind of you know, he's attacking

945
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Speaker 5: that whole angle, and I think it's really smart. On

946
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Speaker 5: the part of Connor McGregor in some ways. I think

947
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Speaker 5: Habib is probably gonna recognize that he's a guy that's

948
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Speaker 5: pretty cold blooded man. He doesn't really get faced by

949
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Speaker 5: things like that. But if there's something he's going to

950
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Speaker 5: get phased about, it's probably that kind of history, the Russian,

951
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Speaker 5: Dagistani Chechen history, which Connor has been kind of attacking

952
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Speaker 5: Habib with. He's starting to attack his father a little bit.

953
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Speaker 5: So those are the things that people from that culture

954
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Speaker 5: are going to take offense to. So Connor is starting

955
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Speaker 5: to ramp it up a little bit psychologically on Habib.

956
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Speaker 5: Namaga metoff and it's gonna be interesting to see how

957
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Speaker 5: Habib deals with that. That's something he really hasn't had

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Speaker 5: to deal with before. He had a little bit obviously

959
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Speaker 5: with Tony Ferguson, but in a completely different way, you know,

960
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 5: just trash talking.

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Speaker 6: This is a different level.

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Speaker 4: September is just going to rip off the calendar when

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Speaker 4: we're here next week, we'll be previewing UFC two twenty

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Speaker 4: eight in the next pay per view forty days from

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Speaker 4: right now. Kabib versus McGregor on October sixth in Vegas.

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Speaker 4: All Right, Flow Short Show Today We're gonna get you

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Speaker 4: out of here on that you got twelve fifteen class

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Speaker 5: To be either I do. I probably won't be there. I

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Speaker 4: Train and to be there, yes, okay, be there to

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Speaker 4: got that May Rocky BJJ schedule.

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Speaker 6: On lockouts you do wait for you to show up, kid.

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Speaker 4: Well, what I was doing this morning was making sure

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