Speaker 1: Call it what it is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Luddington,
Speaker 1: an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Welcome, Welcome.
Speaker 3: I'm so excited about our guest.
Speaker 4: I'm very excited, but I have to ask you first,
Speaker 4: did you do your hair this morning? Because I'm looking
Speaker 4: at you and I'm curious. I think you need to
Speaker 4: let everybody know. So, Jessica's in New York right now,
Speaker 4: and I'm in Los Angeles and I just drove here
Speaker 4: and it's kind of, you know, it's a little bit
Speaker 4: it's a little cloudy, it's a little sunny. It's all good.
Speaker 4: I'm feeling chill. Jessica, what was your ride to work today?
Speaker 1: Like, well, I might have woken up early so that
Speaker 1: I could take a shower and blow dry my hair
Speaker 1: before you know, getting breakfast and the kids off to school,
Speaker 1: and then hopping on my train where you.
Speaker 2: Know, it was a little bit cloudy, not a big deal.
Speaker 3: Arrived at Grand Central, jumped off my train, walked into
Speaker 3: Madison Avenue around forty second Street, and an apocalypt dick
Speaker 3: severe thunderstorm with epic proportions of rain, maybe not coming
Speaker 3: down in drops.
Speaker 2: I don't think there were drops involved. It was actual buckets, sheets.
Speaker 3: And gallons that were being poured on top of me
Speaker 3: and my teeny tiny little umbrella.
Speaker 4: Yeah I was.
Speaker 3: I was trying to make cover my body, my purse,
Speaker 3: my shoes, all of it. And and again a little
Speaker 3: bit of fear because of just the sound, the sheer
Speaker 3: sound of the sky cracking open above me. And then
Speaker 3: I got to my destination because I got my nails
Speaker 3: done before this, and I'm very excited about the very cute.
Speaker 3: And when I got there, I felt free to take
Speaker 3: off my shoes because it was problem. I was slashing
Speaker 3: in them and uh. And after taking off my shoes,
Speaker 3: I looked at them and they were.
Speaker 2: Like de ey donny little swimming pools there. It was
Speaker 2: like an above ground swimming pool.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you swam me your way to work today.
Speaker 3: So, yes, my hair does not look like it did
Speaker 3: when I did it, So thank you for notice. No
Speaker 3: other people have commented that it has a little volume.
Speaker 4: Sure you'll call it.
Speaker 3: I don't know you could you could call it that,
Speaker 3: but you're gonna call it what it is, which is
Speaker 3: fucking weird.
Speaker 2: My hair looks like we're just gonna call it.
Speaker 4: I'm glad you're here. Though, tell me.
Speaker 2: About how you got here, what what was your what
Speaker 2: was your prep?
Speaker 4: Well, because we have a special guest today and it
Speaker 4: is our first guest. I left the house this morning
Speaker 4: and I was a little bit nervous, and my husband
Speaker 4: was trying to get me into like, you know, He's
Speaker 4: like just deep, you know, breathe, it's gonna be great.
Speaker 4: Then as I was walking out the door, he did
Speaker 4: something super cute and he was like wait and he
Speaker 4: ran and I okay, So from the Ears tour, I
Speaker 4: have all of my tailor Swift bracelets and this little
Speaker 4: like glass container up in my bathroom and he came
Speaker 4: running down. It's so cute. I'm gonna show the podcast camera.
Speaker 4: Hang on, it's so cute. He pulled a bracelet and
Speaker 4: he put it on my wrist and it's the It
Speaker 4: says Fearless on it, and I just thought that was
Speaker 4: so cute.
Speaker 2: Oh that's so cute.
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna be wearing it the whole podcast to
Speaker 4: just remind myself.
Speaker 2: Oh great, Yes, it is point for Matt.
Speaker 4: I know, major point for Matt. But I'm I'm so
Speaker 4: can I tell you something our first guest, let's just
Speaker 4: say who our first guest is let's just say.
Speaker 3: It, well, our first guest is none other than Mandy More.
Speaker 3: Mandy Moore is our first guest.
Speaker 4: Can I tell you a story about college? When I
Speaker 4: was in college for the whole six months I was
Speaker 4: there before I dropped out, my roommate was so obsessed
Speaker 4: with a walk to Remember.
Speaker 3: I know, that's the first one, that's where you fall
Speaker 3: in love. It's a starting point for all Mandy Moore fans.
Speaker 4: A walk to remember that. We literally so we had
Speaker 4: one of those like old little like huge, you know,
Speaker 4: TVs in our in our dorm room. She had to
Speaker 4: watch it every single day and it may have even
Speaker 4: been on VHS, but it was every single day, crying
Speaker 4: every single day because, by the way, when you watch
Speaker 4: that movie, you're every time you're surprised she's dying. Every
Speaker 4: time it's a reveal, you're like.
Speaker 2: We what because you don't want it to be true.
Speaker 4: You don't want it to be true. Yeah, you're hoping
Speaker 4: you got some sort of bootleg version of it that's like,
Speaker 4: you know, change the ending.
Speaker 2: M m m m yeah, yeah. Little choose your own adventure.
Speaker 3: I choose her not dying, choose her living.
Speaker 2: I choose life for her and Shane West.
Speaker 3: That's what.
Speaker 4: Did you have a little crushery crushing on the Shane West,
Speaker 4: didn't everybody?
Speaker 2: Well, here's the funny thing.
Speaker 3: He's not my type typically, and that movie just crossed types.
Speaker 3: It just did crossed across the cross to I didn't
Speaker 3: matter if he was my type, he was just he
Speaker 3: was the type. No, she liked and loved and so yeah, no, yeah,
Speaker 3: for sure, for sure.
Speaker 2: Remember you then he went onto Er.
Speaker 3: Remember that we.
Speaker 4: Don't talk about competition medical shows.
Speaker 3: Jess.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 4: I'm god, can't even believe you mentioned that.
Speaker 2: Oh, word goodness.
Speaker 3: I have a family connection to Er, so I have
Speaker 3: to celebrate r It's okay, I know you do.
Speaker 2: I know, by the way, I actually feel like all right,
Speaker 2: but I need to.
Speaker 3: I feel like I actually need only because you told
Speaker 3: the sweet story about Matt. I do have to say
Speaker 3: I kind of lied in the beginning of my day.
Speaker 2: Can I can I come clean?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 2: I lied when I was I didn't lie, I know
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 4: I lied.
Speaker 3: I said that I got ready this morning in time
Speaker 3: till you know, get breakfast for the kids and then
Speaker 3: get out the door.
Speaker 2: But I didn't. I woke up and I got ready,
Speaker 2: I got me ready and Christopher.
Speaker 4: Christopher's listening to this podcast right now thinking exqueeze me,
Speaker 4: so he would be okay with that.
Speaker 3: But I think it's I think it's actually the right
Speaker 3: thing to do to say that I had nothing to
Speaker 3: do with breakfast this morning. Christopher did it all, and
Speaker 3: then I was just there to kiss them sweetly before
Speaker 3: they walked out the door.
Speaker 2: Okay, I can't wait to talk to her.
Speaker 5: I can't wait.
Speaker 3: Let's around him it o, guys, I already want your haircut. Yes,
Speaker 3: I'm it's gonna happen.
Speaker 5: How are you, ladies?
Speaker 4: Amazing?
Speaker 3: This beginning might have some lopsided energy because we might
Speaker 3: be really, very very much more excited to have you
Speaker 3: than you might be to be with.
Speaker 2: Us, only because because we've been about well just we
Speaker 2: just went. We've been we've been side texting.
Speaker 4: We've been side testing. Well, first off, call it you're
Speaker 4: our first guest. Call it our first call on the pot,
Speaker 4: our first guest. Yes, how yes, And by the way,
Speaker 4: we have fans already trying to figure out who it is,
Speaker 4: and we're not. We haven't said it yet, and so
Speaker 4: they're gonna I am so excited.
Speaker 6: That honored beyond come on.
Speaker 4: Yes, but we have had a side This is gonna
Speaker 4: be embarrassing. We're just gonna say it. We've had a
Speaker 4: side text going on all week and Jessica.
Speaker 3: And I about you and all your awesomeness, which is
Speaker 3: what's creating my feeling of love.
Speaker 2: But don't worry, We're gonna push through.
Speaker 4: We've been arguing over who you would be best friends
Speaker 4: with more. Yeah, because out of the both of us.
Speaker 5: Well, I'll let you know the answer at the end.
Speaker 4: Okay, I would appreciate that.
Speaker 2: I would appreciate that, just.
Speaker 4: You know what, because one of my arguments is, Mandy,
Speaker 4: we would be in the same grade at school, so
Speaker 4: I feel like it's like, because what year did you graduate?
Speaker 5: Two thousand and two?
Speaker 4: Yes, in the house. See, there's already a bond going on,
Speaker 4: jess don't worry about it. We were also discussing how
Speaker 4: you were on We realized you were on Gray's Anatomy
Speaker 4: before we were on Gray's Anatomy.
Speaker 5: I was thinking about that earlier.
Speaker 4: Yeah, did you know that your shooter episode is like
Speaker 4: the fan favorite episode?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 5: Wow? Yeah, that is a dark fan favorite.
Speaker 2: It is so that makes you feel all the things.
Speaker 3: And also that's a lot of episodes, so you should
Speaker 3: be I mean, I think that's a big accomplishments.
Speaker 5: I'm I again also honored to be a part of that. Yes, conversation,
Speaker 5: that's so wild.
Speaker 4: Do you remember shooting it?
Speaker 5: I do, I do. I remember being really intimidated. I'd
Speaker 5: never really done television before, especially not like an episode
Speaker 5: of like television drama. And I was such a Grays fan,
Speaker 5: so I and working with Chandra, like I was just
Speaker 5: it was all so overwhelming and I felt like, you know,
Speaker 5: such a newbie in that world. But everyone was so
Speaker 5: kind and yeah, it was just I just remember feeling
Speaker 5: like reading the script and it was so intensely emotional
Speaker 5: that it was it was easy to feel that in
Speaker 5: the moment there. It just it all felt so real,
Speaker 5: like I just I had never worked on a project
Speaker 5: quite like that before, where there was so much going on,
Speaker 5: like it was so visceral. Yeah, it was. It was
Speaker 5: a wild, wild moment.
Speaker 4: You wish so good?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Oh, you're kind of I don't. I think I
Speaker 5: didn't even realize what I was getting myself into if
Speaker 5: I had really like thought through it, because I was
Speaker 5: such a fan of the show. I would have been
Speaker 5: like even more intimidated, but it was such a fun experience,
Speaker 5: which which sounds odd. No the subject, the subject matter
Speaker 5: and what we were actually doing, but it was it
Speaker 5: was a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, I would just like to point out really quickly
Speaker 3: that also I was a fan of Grays before I
Speaker 3: came to cras Anatomy, big huge, like watch it on
Speaker 3: the night and I wouldn't even let it get t vote,
Speaker 3: which is what I think that was happening at that
Speaker 3: time in life.
Speaker 2: And I would watch it live on the night.
Speaker 3: So I just want to point out that something you
Speaker 3: and I have in common just the column I think.
Speaker 7: Already the competition, and then I also wanted to mention
Speaker 7: that another similarity that you and I have, Mandy, is
Speaker 7: that we both worked with Schondra Wilson first when we
Speaker 7: came on as our characters.
Speaker 3: I'm chras not.
Speaker 2: I just want to point that out.
Speaker 5: Okay, well that's two points for you.
Speaker 4: But okay, okay, that's fine, that's fine.
Speaker 6: Just keep a little running tally on like a sticky
Speaker 6: note here.
Speaker 4: When you sign on for the role, were you aware
Speaker 4: that you would be part of a shooting episode, like,
Speaker 4: how much information did you have?
Speaker 5: I hm, I remember talking. I had a phone conversation
Speaker 5: with Shonda Rhimes and she sort of explained, I believe,
Speaker 5: like just kind.
Speaker 7: Of in.
Speaker 5: Layman's terms, sort of like the what the layout of
Speaker 5: the episode was going to be. But I remember her
Speaker 5: just putting an emphasis on like we've never done something
Speaker 5: quite like this before, and I was like, you, you
Speaker 5: don't have to convince, convince like I am, I would
Speaker 5: like jump at this opportunity to be a part of
Speaker 5: the show. But it was really lovely for her to
Speaker 5: sort of explain what the episode, how the episode sort
Speaker 5: of fit in the pantheon of Grey's Anatomy. So I
Speaker 5: did know, and I had read the script, but again
Speaker 5: it's like I didn't quite understand the impact and how
Speaker 5: many seasons twenty twenty one season later that people like
Speaker 5: you mentioned would still think about that episode and regard
Speaker 5: it so highly as really, wow, that's something.
Speaker 3: I'm listening to talk about this and I'm thinking that
Speaker 3: I think we all felt the same about being asked
Speaker 3: to come onto the show, which is sort of an
Speaker 3: amazing place to start with, just that sort of unbridled
Speaker 3: enthusiasm and excitement and genuine understanding and connection to a
Speaker 3: show that we then got to become a part of,
Speaker 3: which is kind of I mean, most of the time
Speaker 3: you're starting something in your your it's like brand new runway,
Speaker 3: right You're not you don't know anything about it. So
Speaker 3: we all got to come here that having it already
Speaker 3: be test driven and understanding how phenomenal it was. You know,
Speaker 3: I was listening to you talk about a couple of
Speaker 3: different things in your life, and one of them that
Speaker 3: really stuck out to me to talk to youmil about
Speaker 3: this was I auditioned for grays Anontomy three times. Twice
Speaker 3: I did not get the part, and the third time
Speaker 3: was because she'd said, you know, Shohanna had said, no,
Speaker 3: I really do I like her. I want to find
Speaker 3: a place for her. And finally she did, and I
Speaker 3: was so excited. But it had really come on the
Speaker 3: heels of me having not worked for more than a
Speaker 3: minute and really questioning, is this how I want to feel
Speaker 3: about what I do? And do I want to feel
Speaker 3: this uphill? Like I'm all game, Like I actually don't
Speaker 3: mind auditioning. I love that kind of stuff. I'm like,
Speaker 3: let's go. And every time I get an audition, I
Speaker 3: literally get pregnant with the idea of it. I see
Speaker 3: myself on set, I'm like, go, go go, And then
Speaker 3: it doesn't happen and you start all over again. And
Speaker 3: that's either crazy or or completely optimistic. But I was
Speaker 3: feeling that way before I got into Grace and I
Speaker 3: was listening to you talk about the beginning of This
Speaker 3: Is Us. What did that feel like for you.
Speaker 2: That minute that you knew you got the job? And
Speaker 2: who told you?
Speaker 5: Jessica, I honestly like, yes, it is a wild profession
Speaker 5: that we have all chosen to be artists and to
Speaker 5: face the kind of rejection that Waly That is just
Speaker 5: like daily, daily, hourly, Like it is just it. And
Speaker 5: I honestly like, I don't care what sort of level
Speaker 5: or season you find yourself in or at, like as
Speaker 5: as an actor or a creative person or an artist
Speaker 5: or however you want to refer to yourself as, Like,
Speaker 5: I don't care about the success that you've had, Like
Speaker 5: we all continue.
Speaker 6: To face rejection in all forms.
Speaker 5: It's just like it is. It is the consistency of
Speaker 5: what we do. Unfortunately, so you sort of have to
Speaker 5: buckle up and get used to it. But yes, before
Speaker 5: this is us, I think I had found myself in
Speaker 5: a position where professionally, I felt like I had, like
Speaker 5: most actors like kind of put myself out there for
Speaker 5: a pilot season. And that became like the time that
Speaker 5: I was so intensely focused on finding a job and
Speaker 5: fingers crossed that something was going to go. I was
Speaker 5: so hopeful to do television and live in you know,
Speaker 5: I lived in Los Angeles, so I was like, Wow,
Speaker 5: the idea of like doing a show here and being
Speaker 5: able to like come home and sleep in my bed
Speaker 5: every night, like that was the dream of all dreams.
Speaker 5: And I felt like year after year and uh, pilot
Speaker 5: season after pilot season, things would never come to fruition,
Speaker 5: Like perhaps I would get a job and get a pilot,
Speaker 5: which was amazing, and then nothing would come of it,
Speaker 5: and it just it just was like waiting for that
Speaker 5: question and waiting for that pickup, fingers crossed, like checking
Speaker 5: in every day like is there any word? Do we
Speaker 5: know what's going on? And finally coming to this like realization,
Speaker 5: I think after four failed pilot seasons of maybe this
Speaker 5: is the universe telling me that I have had my
Speaker 5: minute and I'm intensely grateful for it, but it is
Speaker 5: time to like pack up and move on and figure
Speaker 5: out what the next chapter of my life is going
Speaker 5: to be. And maybe I'll move back to Florida, maybe
Speaker 5: I'll go back to school, maybe I'll focus on music.
Speaker 5: Like I just I was like, I don't know if
Speaker 5: like it is in my constitution to be able to
Speaker 5: like withstand this constant stream of rejection all the time.
Speaker 5: And I remember very viscerally like getting I had, you know,
Speaker 5: in business terms, like I just moved to a new
Speaker 5: agency and hoping that maybe that like new burst of
Speaker 5: energy might shift the dynamic a little bit. And I
Speaker 5: remember kind of like all of us discussing, Okay, no
Speaker 5: more traditional network pilot season because man, my soul is
Speaker 5: just so beaten down. I don't know if that's going
Speaker 5: to be the ticket for me, if if I'm going
Speaker 5: to stay in this business, like let's just let's focus
Speaker 5: on other avenues and indie movies and you know, like
Speaker 5: streaming shows. And and then I remember, like two weeks
Speaker 5: later after this meeting, I get a script in my
Speaker 5: my inbox for the untitled Dan Fogelman project for NBC,
Speaker 5: and I was like, what's not what the universe wanted.
Speaker 2: The universe wanted to do there prime time.
Speaker 5: I was like, this is everything we just talked about
Speaker 5: I didn't want to do, and put myself in the
Speaker 5: ring again for it. And and then of course I
Speaker 5: read the script and was like, oh damn, it's really good.
Speaker 5: And I was like, okay, yeah, I mean, I'll do
Speaker 5: whatever it takes to be a part of this. And
Speaker 5: I auditioned and went through that whole process, and anyway,
Speaker 5: it came down to like six weeks later going in
Speaker 5: for a chemistry six weeks.
Speaker 4: Later, waits, I hate the wait. Okay, okay, I wait
Speaker 4: the wait.
Speaker 5: Which at that point you've like you've completely brushed off, like, okay,
Speaker 5: this job is not in the realm of possible.
Speaker 7: See not me.
Speaker 2: I'm still like, I'm so how's that going. I'm just
Speaker 2: kind of check in.
Speaker 5: I've moved on.
Speaker 4: No, I've burned the script.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, shade that it's in the fire.
Speaker 3: I'm still lighting candles and manifesting that I've got it.
Speaker 2: It's mine, it's my part.
Speaker 8: I've taken a candle to the script yes correct to
Speaker 8: say yes, I just let it go and I get
Speaker 8: this call that they're gonna do a chemistry read with
Speaker 8: like a handful of women and a handful of men.
Speaker 5: And I went in and brushed it.
Speaker 6: I only I don't know about that, but I went
Speaker 6: in and read only with Milo, who ended up getting
Speaker 6: cast as well as my husband on the show, and
Speaker 6: we I remember I remember hearing going in that like
Speaker 6: he was the guy to beat, like that everybody across
Speaker 6: the board.
Speaker 5: Like loved him, and so I remember thinking, like, I
Speaker 5: think this is a good thing that they just had
Speaker 5: me read with him and not the other two guys
Speaker 5: that were in the room. But and then we ended
Speaker 5: up getting cast.
Speaker 2: But okay, so who told you? How'd you find out?
Speaker 5: My manager called me?
Speaker 2: Was it a phone call?
Speaker 5: It wasn't like it was a phone call. Yes, And
Speaker 5: I was so excited, but also like at the same
Speaker 5: time I was, I was thrilled, but I remember thinking,
Speaker 5: oh gosh, like this is going to be a fun
Speaker 5: job for a couple of days, but inevitably this is
Speaker 5: what happens. This is my luck, like this this thing
Speaker 5: won't go forward, like I couldn't. I remember being on
Speaker 5: set and Dan Fogelman, who created the show and was
Speaker 5: our show writer. He was on set and he was
Speaker 5: trying to tell Milo and I like his ideas for
Speaker 5: the show moving forward, and I was.
Speaker 4: Like, la la, la, la la.
Speaker 5: I don't want to hear anything because if this doesn't
Speaker 5: move forward, like I just don't want to be continue
Speaker 5: to be disappointed. And luckily that wasn't the case.
Speaker 3: But listening to you on That was Us, which is
Speaker 3: your new podcast. Oh yeah, hearing you all talk about
Speaker 3: the magic of the table read and that and the
Speaker 3: shooting of the pilot.
Speaker 2: I mean, you did know that you had magic there.
Speaker 4: You did know that for sure, but I mean you
Speaker 4: can't tell I feel like you just don't like you
Speaker 4: feel I've heard so many people say like there was
Speaker 4: so much magic and I have no idea why it
Speaker 4: didn't work out. Yeah, I think that's actors, like you know,
Speaker 4: we feel that way. One thing I had to say,
Speaker 4: Manny that I've always thought is that role and I
Speaker 4: want to think of myself as like a you know,
Speaker 4: a confident actor. That role would have intimidated me so
Speaker 4: much jumping in like time, I don't were you going
Speaker 4: into it and just thinking like fuck it, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: do it and just like you know, or were you
Speaker 4: did you have reservations of like, oh my god, can
Speaker 4: I do this? Because I felt that I would feel
Speaker 4: that way.
Speaker 5: I was so intimidated. Yeah. I mean the good thing was,
Speaker 5: you know, when you read a pilot, it's just what's
Speaker 5: on the page. It's just the first episode. Had I
Speaker 5: known that the breadth of the show, what the show
Speaker 5: was really going to be about, how expansive the universe
Speaker 5: was going to be. I didn't know until the show
Speaker 5: got picked up and we got that second episode and
Speaker 5: it was like, oh, we jumped in time eight years. Yes, Okay,
Speaker 5: we're not telling this story linearly. It's not happening in
Speaker 5: sequential order. That's cool. But had someone told me at
Speaker 5: that point, I mean, like, I remember getting this phone
Speaker 5: call from Dan three weeks before we started shooting this
Speaker 5: second episode, and he was like, so, I have this
Speaker 5: idea for you to play the character present day, and
Speaker 5: I was like, I'm sorry, but and we're gonna go
Speaker 5: through like a litany of hair and makeup tests, and
Speaker 5: you know, if if it is unbelievable across the board
Speaker 5: by any one person, whether it's a producer or the studio, network, whatever,
Speaker 5: then I think we're all gonna like pivot and think
Speaker 5: about casting an actress who is actually the age is
Speaker 5: a character, and but we'd love to try it, like
Speaker 5: we want you to try it first.
Speaker 4: And I was like, okay, my god.
Speaker 5: I remember we went through like six it was like
Speaker 5: Goldilocks in The Three Bears. We went through like six
Speaker 5: different iterations of hair and makeup where it was like
Speaker 5: this is too old, this is too young, and this
Speaker 5: is the wrong wig and this is and we finally
Speaker 5: landed on something. And I remember the first thing they
Speaker 5: made me shoot was a scene with ron Cephas Jones,
Speaker 5: like the ron Cephas Jones, and it's a scene that
Speaker 5: ended up being in one of the episodes. I believe
Speaker 5: it was like episode three. We kind of jumped a
Speaker 5: little forward, and I was like, this is you're you're
Speaker 5: not only dropping me into being this character present day
Speaker 5: for the first time, but you're putting me in a
Speaker 5: scene with like this legend of an actor who is also,
Speaker 5: you know, twenty years older than me and older than me. Yeah,
Speaker 5: so it's like he is a little more believably he
Speaker 5: was playing older than he actually was. But still I
Speaker 5: was like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: This is so in reverse intimidation in my old life.
Speaker 4: Was sweating hearing this story. I'm sweating.
Speaker 3: It's so great hearing I mean, truly, your your new
Speaker 3: podcast is so you can hear it in all of
Speaker 3: your voices, the talking about it and just the insights
Speaker 3: and and again just it's such a it's such a
Speaker 3: peaker behind the curtain, and I really really enjoying well.
Speaker 5: But you guys know, it's like you are a family.
Speaker 5: Like you're lucky that you you have been woven into
Speaker 5: the fabric of this like beautiful, established thing that is
Speaker 5: so beloved by people. And it's such a rare thing
Speaker 5: to find that it's it's truly if you're lucky. It's
Speaker 5: once in a career, once in a lifetime, and it's
Speaker 5: and and you were you're so cemented and you're so
Speaker 5: bonded with these people that you've worked with. I mean, look,
Speaker 5: you guys are best friends and you've it's like you're
Speaker 5: your friendship.
Speaker 2: You've taken it.
Speaker 5: I will happily be the third wheel. But it's just
Speaker 5: like it's an incredibly special thing and and it's it's
Speaker 5: palpable to an audience and they sense that, and you
Speaker 5: sense your friendship and hopefully they sense the friendship that
Speaker 5: that we all had on This is Us and it
Speaker 5: it's yeah, it's it's just so special and to be
Speaker 5: able to continue it in some form or fashion is
Speaker 5: means the world because it's like so crazy, you know,
Speaker 5: when you when when that that you know, special chapter
Speaker 5: and sort of seminal time in your life ends and
Speaker 5: everybody sort of moves on to the next thing and
Speaker 5: their families and all of that. It's like being able
Speaker 5: to find any excuse to get together again and chat
Speaker 5: about things is like, it's it's the best. No, there's
Speaker 5: no substitute for it.
Speaker 4: And it doesn't feel like work. It doesn't feel like work.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Were you ever pregnant on the show?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 5: Twice, I was. I was.
Speaker 3: I was pregnant three times and I had one already,
Speaker 3: so I was like three times and I and they
Speaker 3: never made me pregnant, which obviously they couldn't have never
Speaker 3: made they could. You were never pregnant on the show?
Speaker 3: I was just I mean, are your real pregnancy on
Speaker 3: the show?
Speaker 5: Yes, because of us jumping around in time and at
Speaker 5: one point in time, my character was pregnant, so we
Speaker 5: were able to sort of Yeah, although I was not
Speaker 5: as pregnant as I was supposed to be on the
Speaker 5: show because I was pregnant one baby intad with triplets. Yeah,
Speaker 5: so it's like I I yes, but so that was
Speaker 5: quite ironic. How did they get around it with you?
Speaker 5: Like shooting with you?
Speaker 4: It's so easy for us.
Speaker 5: Were you in pregnant on the show too?
Speaker 4: I was pregnant twice on the show too.
Speaker 5: Yes, you just hide it with cool scrubs and lap coats.
Speaker 4: It was hide it. Yeah. Yeah, and I think, like Manny,
Speaker 4: you were you gave birth to us in twenty twenty one. Yes, yes, spring, Yes,
Speaker 4: so I was pregnant. I gave birth in twenty twenty.
Speaker 4: So we went down for shooting for COVID, which was
Speaker 4: I know, by the way I feel you because anyone
Speaker 4: that was pregnant during twenty twenty I feel like this
Speaker 4: bond with because it was such an insane time to
Speaker 4: be carrying.
Speaker 5: Was it your first? No? No, okay, got it.
Speaker 4: Got it my second, but totally different experience right like
Speaker 4: that time was so wild. But but we went down
Speaker 4: for shooting, so by the time we got back to shoot,
Speaker 4: I was done with my pregnancy. I just had first
Speaker 4: trimester on the show. But yes, but for you that's
Speaker 4: not the case because shows are up and running by
Speaker 4: the time, and we.
Speaker 5: Were one of the first shows back up and running.
Speaker 5: It was like we went back in September of twenty
Speaker 5: twenty and I was like five months pregnant. So it
Speaker 5: was a really precurious time to be going back to
Speaker 5: work because that was like full ppe, you know, like
Speaker 5: people in like as much and the goggles your own
Speaker 5: little kid masks. Yeah, and you're sitting there like, I'm like, wow,
Speaker 5: I'm I felt so vulnerable being pregnant and being unmasked
Speaker 5: and working. And but also I was like, well, we're
Speaker 5: all getting tested, you know, multiple times a week. I
Speaker 5: guess this is the safest place to be. It's better
Speaker 5: than being home and just being anxious and thinking about
Speaker 5: things all day. But yeah, yeah, it was. It's so
Speaker 5: strange I think back on now that that was almost
Speaker 5: it's like all a blurb.
Speaker 3: Well, when you talk about the return to work, I
Speaker 3: think it's actually so interesting because I feel like top
Speaker 3: note question for women who are pregnant on shows, if
Speaker 3: you will, is like what did you do when you're pregnant?
Speaker 3: Like how did you hide it? Right? I feel like
Speaker 3: the far more important question was like, what happened once
Speaker 3: you going back to work after having a baby? Yeah,
Speaker 3: like that whole the negotiation, Like at least they were
Speaker 3: all tucked in there and they were you know, I'd
Speaker 3: carry charts and then as technology advanced, I'd be hearing
Speaker 3: iPads work.
Speaker 2: I was big, I'd be behind counters.
Speaker 3: But it was after having the baby, the return to work,
Speaker 3: So both of you return to work post pandemic with baby.
Speaker 5: Yeah, how is it for you?
Speaker 4: It was good that I was batch at work, but
Speaker 4: like it was just I found it very intimidating. I just,
Speaker 4: you know, because it's like you don't want to on
Speaker 4: these shows. You don't want to like make out with
Speaker 4: any I didn't want to like make out any see
Speaker 4: any with wanting anyone because I was like, oh god,
Speaker 4: I'm going to bring it back. I have a new born.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I was a little paranoid. But luckily on
Speaker 4: our show, by the way, there was like, you know,
Speaker 4: we had ppe that we had to wear on our show.
Speaker 4: It was almost like the safest to be on Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: but you know, so that was that for yeah, But
Speaker 4: what about for you?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I Mean the fortunate part was I was I
Speaker 5: got about a month off, which I know doesn't sound
Speaker 5: like it's not a lot of time, But the privilege
Speaker 5: of being able to bring your baby to work, I know,
Speaker 5: is it's truly a privilege that most most new parents,
Speaker 5: it's not even within the realm of possibility. So I'll
Speaker 5: just start with that that the fact that I could
Speaker 5: bring my baby and I could nurse and he was
Speaker 5: there with me was amazing. And we only were back
Speaker 5: at work for about i'd say, like two months before
Speaker 5: we had our hiatus, and then you know, I had
Speaker 5: a good like three months off or four months off
Speaker 5: before I had to go back to work for the
Speaker 5: next season. So it was it worked out pretty well.
Speaker 5: And I also feel really fortunate to have had like
Speaker 5: showrunners and a creator and like a support system at
Speaker 5: work of very incredibly understanding individuals who were all parents themselves,
Speaker 5: who made it as easy and seamless as possible for
Speaker 5: me to be there, for Gus to be with me,
Speaker 5: And it was truly a dream. I was like, oh,
Speaker 5: so this is this is the way it can be.
Speaker 5: And you hear like those stories from other actors who
Speaker 5: are like, if you're lucky enough to be on show
Speaker 5: that's running for multiple seasons, like, that's when you should
Speaker 5: have a kid.
Speaker 6: If you're thinking about.
Speaker 2: This reminds me of something, Camilla, What did I say
Speaker 2: to you?
Speaker 4: Is this is why I got pregnantly. Honestly, I wouldn't
Speaker 4: have had kids unless Jessica Capshall told me. No, She's
Speaker 4: the reason that I'm tired every day and I've aged
Speaker 4: so much. Yes, No, Jessica was like when I got
Speaker 4: on the show, she was like, you have to have
Speaker 4: children on this show because of Sean and Lane. And
Speaker 4: by the way, they're super, super amazingly supportive. I do
Speaker 4: need to segue because Mandy, I don't know if you
Speaker 4: know this, but we have had fans right into our
Speaker 4: podcast to ask us to help them, and we would
Speaker 4: love for you to help give some of our fans
Speaker 4: advice on some of their problems.
Speaker 5: Yes, I will. So.
Speaker 3: The whole premise is that we are by the way,
Speaker 3: we are well, the premise they don't feel too much pressure.
Speaker 3: Premise is that we are absolutely unlicensed to advise anyway.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we might be terrible.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be optimistic again here and.
Speaker 4: We're going to be great at this.
Speaker 2: Who wants terrible advice? Cavilla, This is not the way.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 4: So my premise is, like I might say, wow, this
Speaker 4: is crazy.
Speaker 2: She's a wild card a bit. I love it, that's true.
Speaker 4: That's okay.
Speaker 5: You guys are the perfect yin and yang to each other.
Speaker 2: And there we go, there we go.
Speaker 4: So the point is that.
Speaker 3: The premise is that we so love helping each other
Speaker 3: and solving each other's problems, that we are creating a
Speaker 3: bigger friendship circle that you are now part of. And
Speaker 3: we have asked people to also join us in their
Speaker 3: you know, in their travels. And so we've had a couple, well,
Speaker 3: we've had quite a few. We're super lucky.
Speaker 4: We've had thousands apparently.
Speaker 3: To write in and and and so we're gonna give
Speaker 3: them our two cents. But are you are you up
Speaker 3: for it?
Speaker 5: I'm game. I'll try my best.
Speaker 3: Let's go and then then and then the idea is
Speaker 3: that we're gonna then we're gonna call it what it is,
Speaker 3: with love and kindness and as much as much grace
Speaker 3: and compassion as is possible in the world, all of it.
Speaker 4: I love it. Okay, are you guys ready?
Speaker 2: This is the first one.
Speaker 4: This is the first one. Emily French. Okay, she wrote
Speaker 4: us on Instagram. She dmd us and she said, Hi, ladies,
Speaker 4: I have a question for y'all's podcast. I was wondering
Speaker 4: what advice do you have for healing after a breakup.
Speaker 4: I recently broke up with my girlfriend of four years.
Speaker 4: It was my first relationship and so my very first
Speaker 4: ever heartbreak. And I lost my mom to cancer when
Speaker 4: I was a teenager, and navigating with this without any
Speaker 4: motherly advice has been difficult. Thank you so.
Speaker 5: Much, man, Emily.
Speaker 4: Emily, Well, first off, I lost my mom when I
Speaker 4: was a teenager too, so I understand. I understand what
Speaker 4: it's like to sort of not be able to pick
Speaker 4: up the phone and be like, Mom, what do I do? However,
Speaker 4: even without that, I will say that you can kick
Speaker 4: heartbreak in the butt. You can handle this like a boss.
Speaker 4: I read a butt you guys when I went through
Speaker 4: my very very I was. I don't know how old
Speaker 4: you guys were when you had like your first love heartbreak.
Speaker 4: I was about twenty two and I ordered a book
Speaker 4: called It's Called a Breakup Because It's Broken. Jessica, you're
Speaker 4: friends with this.
Speaker 5: I do.
Speaker 4: I know them.
Speaker 2: I knew them when they were writing it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Wow, It's the best book for a heartbreak ever.
Speaker 4: America makes you like love it. I loved it so
Speaker 4: much that I remember this moment, you guys. I was
Speaker 4: reading it and my ex was calling, and usually I
Speaker 4: would have been like, oh my god and pick up.
Speaker 4: And I remember, and I'm being like, this is working.
Speaker 4: I hit decline on my phone and just continued reading,
Speaker 4: and I was like, freedom, I'm getting over it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, I.
Speaker 4: I love that.
Speaker 3: I see that, and I go full nosedive into the sad.
Speaker 4: I go sally like you embrace oh, I.
Speaker 2: Literally wear like until I'm done with.
Speaker 4: The morning morning.
Speaker 3: It's interesting, I think that I skew a little avoidant. Typically,
Speaker 3: my my normal flight pattern is avoidant when things get
Speaker 3: a little rough, and so when something truly does completely
Speaker 3: devolve and break apart, I actually think that that is
Speaker 3: when I feel the freedom to be like, I'm going
Speaker 3: to feel all of it.
Speaker 4: I'm just going to.
Speaker 3: Lean into this terrible feeling. And know that I always
Speaker 3: say this, but I think it's but it's true. It's
Speaker 3: that everything will be okay in the end, and if
Speaker 3: it's not okay, it's not the end. And so I
Speaker 3: sort of just allow myself to be swallowed by it,
Speaker 3: and it has served me well because when I'm done
Speaker 3: with the morning, I really am done. So I like
Speaker 3: the sadness so emily feel the heartbreak. If someone was
Speaker 3: in your life for that long, they were important. So
Speaker 3: and I hate that idea that you know that when
Speaker 3: something's over that it was a waste. I truly do
Speaker 3: think that we're some of our experiences, and I think
Speaker 3: that heartbreak can be actually an incredibly nutritive thing, and
Speaker 3: sometimes you have to break things apart to put them
Speaker 3: back together in a stronger way.
Speaker 5: So that would be my that is i'd so beautiful
Speaker 5: and such a great like prescription. I was thinking similarly
Speaker 5: just that, like it's it's unfortunate, and it's not what
Speaker 5: you want to hear in the moment while you're like
Speaker 5: in the it's the wallowing and just utter sadness, but
Speaker 5: it is. It is for a reason, and it is
Speaker 5: so informative moving forward of what you want, what you
Speaker 5: don't want, what you deserve, what you don't deserve, Like
Speaker 5: it's the unfortunate part of life, Like we have to
Speaker 5: have that experience and feel broken in order to be
Speaker 5: able to pick up the pieces and move forward, and
Speaker 5: it's like it it clearly it wasn't the thing, it
Speaker 5: wasn't meant for you, and something else out there will be.
Speaker 5: And it's again it's hard to sort of digest all
Speaker 5: of that, I think in the moment, but it's it
Speaker 5: will all be for a reason moving forward.
Speaker 4: I used to tell myself that, like, this is what
Speaker 4: used to help me too. I used to tell myself,
Speaker 4: the guy that is going to fall in love with
Speaker 4: you and be the one is at Starbucks right now
Speaker 4: ordering a drink. And I know it's so silly, but
Speaker 4: like it helped me to feel like that's what he's
Speaker 4: doing right now, and he's wondering when he's gonna find
Speaker 4: his girl, and I'm the girl. We just haven't found
Speaker 4: each other yet. So I used to use like my
Speaker 4: little Starbucks another.
Speaker 2: Very nora Ephron.
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 3: It's like a Nora Ephron, like you might have been
Speaker 3: walking down the same street.
Speaker 4: But yes, yes, And so I used to think, like,
Speaker 4: it's not him, and whoever it is, they're at Starbucks
Speaker 4: right now, and I need to be patient and find
Speaker 4: them because they're waiting for me too.
Speaker 3: I also think, you know what I think It's funny
Speaker 3: because I was talking to someone recently who had who
Speaker 3: was going through this, and I've said this a couple
Speaker 3: of times, but I think it's because it's so true.
Speaker 3: I had someone call me it was like really devastated, crying, crying, crying,
Speaker 3: and I said, you know what, at least this is
Speaker 3: what's true for me. Every person who broke my heart,
Speaker 3: I truly felt like, if it was it five days later,
Speaker 3: five weeks later, five years, ten year, whatever, whatever, whatever,
Speaker 3: you will write them a thank you note. And you
Speaker 3: don't know when you're gonna realize that the thank you
Speaker 3: note's gonna come. It could take you five days, five weeks,
Speaker 3: five years, whatever, but one day there's gonna be a
Speaker 3: thank you note that you write that person for breaking
Speaker 3: your heart, because if they hadn't broken your heart, you
Speaker 3: wouldn't have gone on to the path that you went
Speaker 3: on to landed you where you are. And I think
Speaker 3: that the gratitude piece for me has always been like
Speaker 3: the baseline for understanding and creating joy. And I love
Speaker 3: living and joy. Like clearly obviously nobody wants to live
Speaker 3: in pain. But I think maybe that's like the thing
Speaker 3: that comes with me is like I either go full
Speaker 3: pain or full joy, but the gratitude helps get me.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So again, that's another way for the heartbreak.
Speaker 4: Have you guys thought about like yet, that moment where
Speaker 4: your kid grows up and you're gonna have to re
Speaker 4: experience heartbreak through them.
Speaker 3: You mean, like when someone heartbreaks my kid's heart and
Speaker 3: I kill them.
Speaker 4: I think about this and you and you you guys, this.
Speaker 2: Happens like at school when a kid picks on my kid.
Speaker 4: I know, I'm thinking. I mean, the first time I
Speaker 4: see my son or my daughter go through heartbreak, I
Speaker 4: don't know if I'm going to have any chill like
Speaker 4: in this moment. I can have like chill, but I don't. Mandy,
Speaker 4: do you ever think about this with your science?
Speaker 5: Haven't thought that far because there's so little still I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 5: I haven't wrapped my head around that.
Speaker 4: Mandy. Will you like to close it out with rapid
Speaker 4: fire questions?
Speaker 2: Okay and bye? We like to.
Speaker 3: We like to close it out means you're our first guest,
Speaker 3: and this is the first time we're.
Speaker 2: Doing rappid fire questions like we've.
Speaker 4: Done a hundred times to be the guinea This is
Speaker 4: our tradition that we've just this is our first. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I acted like it's a tradition we've done for.
Speaker 2: Like I just want to say, and it's not because
Speaker 2: I'm trying to ingratiate myself into your.
Speaker 1: Number one position.
Speaker 2: But this has just been such.
Speaker 3: A pleasure, and I'm so grateful that you are first.
Speaker 4: Guys, You're the best.
Speaker 5: I serious, truly, I had no idea. I'm so honored.
Speaker 5: This was such a blast. You both are delightful. I
Speaker 5: I can't choose. I'm just truly to be the third
Speaker 5: week if you're walking, But like stack available anytime, I'll
Speaker 5: just come in and jump in and out whenever.
Speaker 6: I'm not great with advice, but but.
Speaker 5: I'll just chime in whenever I thought.
Speaker 3: You were I thought you I thought you were too.
Speaker 4: I loved that advice. I thought that was great. Okay,
Speaker 4: well you go first. Okay, I'll go first. Sour Patch Kids,
Speaker 4: I just went to the movie theaters. This is where
Speaker 4: this came from. Sour Patch Kids or Swedish.
Speaker 5: Fish sour Patch Kids.
Speaker 2: Feels are flats.
Speaker 4: Flats favorite holiday Halloween?
Speaker 9: Oh me too.
Speaker 2: You guys might be besties.
Speaker 3: Love.
Speaker 5: How do you like your eggs scrambled?
Speaker 4: Mm hm? Did you go to sleep away camp as
Speaker 4: a kid? Yes? Was it the best?
Speaker 5: Yes? It is like this is a memory that I'm
Speaker 5: I'm so excited for my kids to have.
Speaker 2: Was it stage Door?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 2: I want my daughter to go so bad.
Speaker 5: If my kids are remotely interested in musical theater, I'm
Speaker 5: gonna send them as well. It was like the greatest
Speaker 5: time of my life.
Speaker 3: She won't do the sleeping.
Speaker 4: I love this.
Speaker 5: I get it that it's she won't Yeah, it is,
Speaker 5: I know, I know. Hot.
Speaker 4: Do you remember how old you were when you.
Speaker 5: Find was eleven? I was young, But I love.
Speaker 4: That feels like a good age. That feels like it.
Speaker 5: But I get it. I hope my kids are like,
Speaker 5: I just want to stay home with you, mom. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I'd be fine with that.
Speaker 2: Please until she went once.
Speaker 3: And that's why she won't go again, because she actually
Speaker 3: reported she missed me too much. It was actually it
Speaker 3: became painful. It was painful longing as opposed.
Speaker 2: To just normal longing.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 7: That is.
Speaker 3: I know, And that's you can't really I know, And
Speaker 3: you can't turn around and be like, no, kid, go
Speaker 3: for the painful longing.
Speaker 5: Never have to leave me again. Never.
Speaker 3: But you're reminding me of Tangled. You lived in my
Speaker 3: house for very long time. Just so we're clear about
Speaker 3: that Tangled. You're so good in that the fact that
Speaker 3: you can convey what you conveyed with your voice on
Speaker 3: an animated character. I mean truly, I don't Oh no,
Speaker 3: no, no no.
Speaker 2: It was real. It was so real and it went
Speaker 2: on for so long.
Speaker 4: That I do have to ask this. I'm desperate to
Speaker 4: ask this because I one of my friends on Instagram
Speaker 4: is a Disney adult, which is an adult that loves Disney. Right,
Speaker 4: so now everything on my Instagram, like the feed, like
Speaker 4: the algorithm prompts all the Disney. Okay, So Tokyo Disney
Speaker 4: has a tangle rightaw right? Okay? So have you done it?
Speaker 4: And I want to know, Like, I just want to
Speaker 4: know really quick when you go to Disneyland, are you
Speaker 4: like carried around the like? What is what is the experience?
Speaker 2: It's in that I have float to the front of
Speaker 2: the line.
Speaker 4: Yes, even more than the VIP guy.
Speaker 6: I have not been to Tokyo Disney.
Speaker 5: That is a bucket list. In fact, Zach le By,
Speaker 5: who's been tang as well, we were both texting about it,
Speaker 5: like this is so cool we need otherwise known as
Speaker 5: splind writer. But no, I mean I think if you
Speaker 5: are fortunate enough to be in the Disney family, and
Speaker 5: you guys have been on an ABC show and the
Speaker 5: Gray's Anatomy universe, so there is the lovely perk of
Speaker 5: of getting the occasional tour guid to Disney. I wouldn't
Speaker 5: say that being a princess is too different. Maybe I'm not, like,
Speaker 5: maybe a cool enough princess. Maybe I'm not frozen or something,
Speaker 5: but like, yeah, they're they are.
Speaker 2: I think we're going for you.
Speaker 4: You're iconic.
Speaker 5: I'm not complaining.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't hear complaining. I'm just saying that it might
Speaker 2: be room for improvement.
Speaker 5: If I could bring the boys, you know, and and
Speaker 5: have a tour guide. I am. I am deeply, deeply grateful.
Speaker 5: But other than that, nine, No, it's it's pretty.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, I don't think I personally don't think you
Speaker 4: should have to walk. Yeah, I could just be carrying you.
Speaker 5: That's the fun of Disney.
Speaker 7: Though.
Speaker 5: I'm one of I'm one of those Disney adults where
Speaker 5: I just like I geek out at a theme park.
Speaker 5: I'm from Orlando. I think it's like just in my DNA.
Speaker 6: I love like yeah, I love scooting around.
Speaker 5: I want to wear the Mickey ears. I want the truro,
Speaker 5: I want the candy out, I want the whole experience thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Mandy, thank you so so much for having me.
Speaker 4: This is the fans are all gonna delightful.
Speaker 6: You guys are so much fun. I could talk to
Speaker 6: you all day.
Speaker 5: Will you come back on anytime? Yes?
Speaker 4: Really? Okay, help me in and we won't make you
Speaker 4: choose no, no no. Between the two of us, we've
Speaker 4: agreed on a throttle.
Speaker 5: I'm happy to be in a threatle with you, guys.
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 2: I know, I know this is such winning.
Speaker 6: You guys need a brunette. You need a brunette in
Speaker 6: a threatle.
Speaker 4: Mandy, we love you, and if I pass you at
Speaker 4: Disneyland and you're walking, I'm gonna complain.
Speaker 5: We'll join groups. Congrats on the podcast, guys.
Speaker 3: All right, thanks, ladies, I have a fantastic thank guys, you.
Speaker 9: Too, Bye bye bye.
Speaker 4: She's awesome. I'm glad you didn't kicked between us as
Speaker 4: best friends, because I would have been very dramas I've
Speaker 4: been TuS.
Speaker 3: We didn't force that because it was just it was
Speaker 3: an organic.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do. Yeah, but we sent out the bat signal.
Speaker 4: I'm still gonna describe it that way for you guys
Speaker 4: to contact us. And we have literally had thousands of messages,
Speaker 4: and I have to tell you, guys, I'm so deeply touched.
Speaker 4: Jessica and I were reading through some of.
Speaker 3: Them yesterday and reading every single one of them, reading
Speaker 3: all of them.
Speaker 4: I don't care how long it's gonna take, We're gonna
Speaker 4: go through all of them, and people are really pouring
Speaker 4: out their hearts and they're getting vulnerable in our candia
Speaker 4: and I love you guys already. I'm already feeling the
Speaker 4: call it community like coming together.
Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely, It's so and it's so fantastic, and I
Speaker 3: think that it really is a testament to how vulnerability
Speaker 3: is one of the strongest choices you can make in
Speaker 3: your life, right because you're gonna stay stuck if you
Speaker 3: don't open up and let people help. And so again,
Speaker 3: here we are, here, we are ready to wrap our
Speaker 3: arms around any problem. I hope we were helpful. I
Speaker 3: hope we were helpful in that one. I do you
Speaker 3: think three different perspectives on how to deal with it?
Speaker 4: Right, yes, and I think we'll get I think that
Speaker 4: there'll be more breakup questions along the way. And by
Speaker 4: the way, you guys can literally DM us about anything,
Speaker 4: and I'm talking about like, do you have a possession
Speaker 4: in your house? Your objects moving? Is there paramol activity?
Speaker 4: We will literally figure out how to unsummon a demon
Speaker 4: if we need to. But no, I'm sure we'll have
Speaker 4: more breakup you know, questions, but because it's something that
Speaker 4: we all go through in life, and we're going to
Speaker 4: get into it in different ways with different answers, and
Speaker 4: you're going to hear more of our experiences. But already
Speaker 4: it was just so nice to feel like we were
Speaker 4: having this communication with you guys.
Speaker 3: Well also, it's just you know, the answers are not
Speaker 3: going to be one size fits all, but hopefully through
Speaker 3: hearing us talk about it, you will absolutely know you
Speaker 3: are not alone. This is this is something that happens
Speaker 3: to everyone. You don't get to participate in life without
Speaker 3: having your heartbroken at least once.
Speaker 2: If not many times.
Speaker 4: You guys, we're gonna wrap it up today.
Speaker 2: I love I love being here with you.
Speaker 4: This is fantastic, I know, and I love that it's
Speaker 4: I love that it's not just us. It really does
Speaker 4: feel like our little, our little friendship circle that's getting
Speaker 4: bigger and bigger and bigger, and we can't.
Speaker 2: Be so grateful.
Speaker 4: Hop back on with you guys. Next time we will
Speaker 4: be tackling another question from somebody again. Dm us, call us,
Speaker 4: email us, give us all the details in the world.
Speaker 4: If you want to stay anonymous, let us know. We
Speaker 4: won't even say a name, and we're gonna we're gonna
Speaker 4: tackle it all, tackle it all head on.
Speaker 2: And just remember that without you, it would just be
Speaker 2: Kamilla and I here talking. So thank you, thank you
Speaker 2: for being here.
Speaker 3: And we also know that you have a lot of
Speaker 3: choices in the podcast that you listen to. There are
Speaker 3: so many out there, So thank you, thank you for
Speaker 3: taking this time to be with us. We are so
Speaker 3: grateful and we are so excited for more and more
Speaker 3: and more and more and more.
Speaker 4: Hey friends, we wanted to add a little extra note
Speaker 4: at the end of this episode because something very special
Speaker 4: happened after we recorded. Mandy Moore came out and revealed
Speaker 4: that she is pregnant with baby number three.
Speaker 3: And this is not only exciting for many, many, many reasons,
Speaker 3: but mostly because I think she's.
Speaker 4: Gonna have to come back, right, she's gonna have to
Speaker 4: come back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna have to talk about this. I mean,
Speaker 2: because we are her besties.
Speaker 3: Not sure how she can get away with not talking
Speaker 3: to us about that. Anyways, So exc I had heard
Speaker 3: a million congratulations and I guess let's call it
Speaker 4: A new pregnancy