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Speaker 1: Call it what it is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Luddington,

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Speaker 1: an iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Welcome, Welcome.

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Speaker 3: I'm so excited about our guest.

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Speaker 4: I'm very excited, but I have to ask you first,

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Speaker 4: did you do your hair this morning? Because I'm looking

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Speaker 4: at you and I'm curious. I think you need to

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Speaker 4: let everybody know. So, Jessica's in New York right now,

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Speaker 4: and I'm in Los Angeles and I just drove here

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Speaker 4: and it's kind of, you know, it's a little bit

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Speaker 4: it's a little cloudy, it's a little sunny. It's all good.

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Speaker 4: I'm feeling chill. Jessica, what was your ride to work today?

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Speaker 1: Like, well, I might have woken up early so that

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Speaker 1: I could take a shower and blow dry my hair

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Speaker 1: before you know, getting breakfast and the kids off to school,

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Speaker 1: and then hopping on my train where you.

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Speaker 2: Know, it was a little bit cloudy, not a big deal.

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Speaker 3: Arrived at Grand Central, jumped off my train, walked into

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Speaker 3: Madison Avenue around forty second Street, and an apocalypt dick

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Speaker 3: severe thunderstorm with epic proportions of rain, maybe not coming

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Speaker 3: down in drops.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there were drops involved. It was actual buckets, sheets.

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Speaker 3: And gallons that were being poured on top of me

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Speaker 3: and my teeny tiny little umbrella.

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Speaker 4: Yeah I was.

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Speaker 3: I was trying to make cover my body, my purse,

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Speaker 3: my shoes, all of it. And and again a little

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Speaker 3: bit of fear because of just the sound, the sheer

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Speaker 3: sound of the sky cracking open above me. And then

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Speaker 3: I got to my destination because I got my nails

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Speaker 3: done before this, and I'm very excited about the very cute.

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Speaker 3: And when I got there, I felt free to take

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Speaker 3: off my shoes because it was problem. I was slashing

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Speaker 3: in them and uh. And after taking off my shoes,

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Speaker 3: I looked at them and they were.

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Speaker 2: Like de ey donny little swimming pools there. It was

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Speaker 2: like an above ground swimming pool.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you swam me your way to work today.

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Speaker 3: So, yes, my hair does not look like it did

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Speaker 3: when I did it, So thank you for notice. No

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Speaker 3: other people have commented that it has a little volume.

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Speaker 4: Sure you'll call it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know you could you could call it that,

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Speaker 3: but you're gonna call it what it is, which is

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Speaker 3: fucking weird.

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Speaker 2: My hair looks like we're just gonna call it.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad you're here. Though, tell me.

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Speaker 2: About how you got here, what what was your what

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Speaker 2: was your prep?

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Speaker 4: Well, because we have a special guest today and it

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Speaker 4: is our first guest. I left the house this morning

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Speaker 4: and I was a little bit nervous, and my husband

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Speaker 4: was trying to get me into like, you know, He's

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Speaker 4: like just deep, you know, breathe, it's gonna be great.

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Speaker 4: Then as I was walking out the door, he did

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Speaker 4: something super cute and he was like wait and he

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Speaker 4: ran and I okay, So from the Ears tour, I

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Speaker 4: have all of my tailor Swift bracelets and this little

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Speaker 4: running down. It's so cute. I'm gonna show the podcast camera.

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Speaker 4: Hang on, it's so cute. He pulled a bracelet and

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Speaker 4: he put it on my wrist and it's the It

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Speaker 4: says Fearless on it, and I just thought that was

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Speaker 4: so cute.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's so cute.

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Speaker 4: So I'm gonna be wearing it the whole podcast to

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Speaker 4: just remind myself.

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Speaker 2: Oh great, Yes, it is point for Matt.

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Speaker 4: I know, major point for Matt. But I'm I'm so

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Speaker 4: can I tell you something our first guest, let's just

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Speaker 4: say who our first guest is let's just say.

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Speaker 3: It, well, our first guest is none other than Mandy More.

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Speaker 3: Mandy Moore is our first guest.

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Speaker 4: Can I tell you a story about college? When I

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Speaker 4: was in college for the whole six months I was

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Speaker 4: there before I dropped out, my roommate was so obsessed

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Speaker 3: I know, that's the first one, that's where you fall

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Speaker 3: in love. It's a starting point for all Mandy Moore fans.

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Speaker 4: A walk to remember that. We literally so we had

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Speaker 4: every single day because, by the way, when you watch

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Speaker 4: that movie, you're every time you're surprised she's dying. Every

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Speaker 4: time it's a reveal, you're like.

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Speaker 2: We what because you don't want it to be true.

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Speaker 4: You don't want it to be true. Yeah, you're hoping

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Speaker 4: you got some sort of bootleg version of it that's like,

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Speaker 2: M m m m yeah, yeah. Little choose your own adventure.

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Speaker 3: I choose her not dying, choose her living.

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Speaker 2: I choose life for her and Shane West.

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Speaker 3: That's what.

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Speaker 4: Did you have a little crushery crushing on the Shane West,

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Speaker 4: didn't everybody?

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Speaker 2: Well, here's the funny thing.

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Speaker 3: He's not my type typically, and that movie just crossed types.

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Speaker 3: It just did crossed across the cross to I didn't

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Speaker 3: was the type. No, she liked and loved and so yeah, no, yeah,

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Speaker 3: for sure, for sure.

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Speaker 2: Remember you then he went onto Er.

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Speaker 3: Remember that we.

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Speaker 4: Don't talk about competition medical shows.

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Speaker 3: Jess.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 4: I'm god, can't even believe you mentioned that.

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Speaker 2: Oh, word goodness.

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Speaker 3: I have a family connection to Er, so I have

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Speaker 3: to celebrate r It's okay, I know you do.

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Speaker 2: I know, by the way, I actually feel like all right,

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Speaker 3: I feel like I actually need only because you told

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Speaker 3: the sweet story about Matt. I do have to say

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Speaker 3: I kind of lied in the beginning of my day.

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Speaker 2: Can I can I come clean?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 2: I lied when I was I didn't lie, I know

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Speaker 4: I lied.

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Speaker 3: I said that I got ready this morning in time

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Speaker 2: But I didn't. I woke up and I got ready,

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Speaker 2: I got me ready and Christopher.

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Speaker 4: Christopher's listening to this podcast right now thinking exqueeze me,

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Speaker 4: so he would be okay with that.

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Speaker 3: But I think it's I think it's actually the right

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Speaker 3: then I was just there to kiss them sweetly before

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Speaker 2: Okay, I can't wait to talk to her.

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Speaker 5: I can't wait.

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Speaker 3: Let's around him it o, guys, I already want your haircut. Yes,

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Speaker 3: I'm it's gonna happen.

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Speaker 5: How are you, ladies?

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Speaker 4: Amazing?

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Speaker 3: This beginning might have some lopsided energy because we might

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Speaker 3: be really, very very much more excited to have you

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Speaker 3: than you might be to be with.

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Speaker 2: Us, only because because we've been about well just we

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Speaker 2: just went. We've been we've been side texting.

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Speaker 4: We've been side testing. Well, first off, call it you're

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Speaker 4: our first guest. Call it our first call on the pot,

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Speaker 4: our first guest. Yes, how yes, And by the way,

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Speaker 4: we have fans already trying to figure out who it is,

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Speaker 4: and we're not. We haven't said it yet, and so

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Speaker 4: they're gonna I am so excited.

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Speaker 6: That honored beyond come on.

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Speaker 4: Yes, but we have had a side This is gonna

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Speaker 4: be embarrassing. We're just gonna say it. We've had a

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Speaker 4: side text going on all week and Jessica.

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Speaker 3: And I about you and all your awesomeness, which is

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Speaker 3: what's creating my feeling of love.

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Speaker 2: But don't worry, We're gonna push through.

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Speaker 4: We've been arguing over who you would be best friends

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Speaker 4: with more. Yeah, because out of the both of us.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'll let you know the answer at the end.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I would appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: I would appreciate that, just.

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Speaker 4: You know what, because one of my arguments is, Mandy,

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Speaker 4: I feel like it's like, because what year did you graduate?

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Speaker 5: Two thousand and two?

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Speaker 4: Yes, in the house. See, there's already a bond going on,

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Speaker 4: jess don't worry about it. We were also discussing how

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Speaker 4: you were on We realized you were on Gray's Anatomy

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Speaker 4: before we were on Gray's Anatomy.

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Speaker 5: I was thinking about that earlier.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, did you know that your shooter episode is like

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Speaker 4: the fan favorite episode?

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Speaker 5: Wow? Yeah, that is a dark fan favorite.

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Speaker 2: It is so that makes you feel all the things.

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Speaker 5: I do, I do. I remember being really intimidated. I'd

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Speaker 4: You wish so good?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Oh, you're kind of I don't. I think I

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Speaker 5: which which sounds odd. No the subject, the subject matter

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Speaker 5: was a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, I would just like to point out really quickly

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Speaker 2: And I would watch it live on the night.

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Speaker 3: So I just want to point out that something you

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Speaker 7: Already the competition, and then I also wanted to mention

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Speaker 7: that we both worked with Schondra Wilson first when we

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Speaker 2: I just want to point that out.

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Speaker 5: landed on something. And I remember the first thing they

445
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Speaker 5: made me shoot was a scene with ron Cephas Jones,

446
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Speaker 5: like the ron Cephas Jones, and it's a scene that

447
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Speaker 5: ended up being in one of the episodes. I believe

448
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Speaker 5: it was like episode three. We kind of jumped a

449
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:14,120
Speaker 5: little forward, and I was like, this is you're you're

450
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,920
Speaker 5: not only dropping me into being this character present day

451
00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,119
Speaker 5: for the first time, but you're putting me in a

452
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Speaker 5: scene with like this legend of an actor who is also,

453
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Speaker 5: you know, twenty years older than me and older than me. Yeah,

454
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Speaker 5: so it's like he is a little more believably he

455
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Speaker 5: was playing older than he actually was. But still I

456
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Speaker 5: was like, oh my gosh.

457
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Speaker 3: This is so in reverse intimidation in my old life.

458
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Speaker 4: Was sweating hearing this story. I'm sweating.

459
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Speaker 3: It's so great hearing I mean, truly, your your new

460
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 3: podcast is so you can hear it in all of

461
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 3: your voices, the talking about it and just the insights

462
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,680
Speaker 3: and and again just it's such a it's such a

463
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Speaker 3: peaker behind the curtain, and I really really enjoying well.

464
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Speaker 5: But you guys know, it's like you are a family.

465
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Speaker 5: Like you're lucky that you you have been woven into

466
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Speaker 5: the fabric of this like beautiful, established thing that is

467
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 5: so beloved by people. And it's such a rare thing

468
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,640
Speaker 5: to find that it's it's truly if you're lucky. It's

469
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 5: once in a career, once in a lifetime, and it's

470
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,199
Speaker 5: and and you were you're so cemented and you're so

471
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 5: bonded with these people that you've worked with. I mean, look,

472
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 5: you guys are best friends and you've it's like you're

473
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Speaker 5: your friendship.

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Speaker 2: You've taken it.

475
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Speaker 5: I will happily be the third wheel. But it's just

476
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Speaker 5: like it's an incredibly special thing and and it's it's

477
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,119
Speaker 5: palpable to an audience and they sense that, and you

478
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,440
Speaker 5: sense your friendship and hopefully they sense the friendship that

479
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,639
Speaker 5: that we all had on This is Us and it

480
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Speaker 5: it's yeah, it's it's just so special and to be

481
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Speaker 5: able to continue it in some form or fashion is

482
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 5: means the world because it's like so crazy, you know,

483
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 5: when you when when that that you know, special chapter

484
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 5: and sort of seminal time in your life ends and

485
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 5: everybody sort of moves on to the next thing and

486
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,640
Speaker 5: their families and all of that. It's like being able

487
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 5: to find any excuse to get together again and chat

488
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 5: about things is like, it's it's the best. No, there's

489
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Speaker 5: no substitute for it.

490
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Speaker 4: And it doesn't feel like work. It doesn't feel like work.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Were you ever pregnant on the show?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

494
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Speaker 5: Twice, I was. I was.

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Speaker 3: I was pregnant three times and I had one already,

496
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Speaker 3: so I was like three times and I and they

497
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Speaker 3: never made me pregnant, which obviously they couldn't have never

498
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Speaker 3: made they could. You were never pregnant on the show?

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Speaker 3: I was just I mean, are your real pregnancy on

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Speaker 3: the show?

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Speaker 5: Yes, because of us jumping around in time and at

502
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Speaker 5: one point in time, my character was pregnant, so we

503
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Speaker 5: were able to sort of Yeah, although I was not

504
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Speaker 5: as pregnant as I was supposed to be on the

505
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Speaker 5: show because I was pregnant one baby intad with triplets. Yeah,

506
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Speaker 5: so it's like I I yes, but so that was

507
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Speaker 5: quite ironic. How did they get around it with you?

508
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Speaker 5: Like shooting with you?

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Speaker 4: It's so easy for us.

510
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Speaker 5: Were you in pregnant on the show too?

511
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Speaker 4: I was pregnant twice on the show too.

512
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Speaker 5: Yes, you just hide it with cool scrubs and lap coats.

513
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Speaker 4: It was hide it. Yeah. Yeah, and I think, like Manny,

514
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Speaker 4: you were you gave birth to us in twenty twenty one. Yes, yes, spring, Yes,

515
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Speaker 4: so I was pregnant. I gave birth in twenty twenty.

516
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Speaker 4: So we went down for shooting for COVID, which was

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Speaker 4: I know, by the way I feel you because anyone

518
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Speaker 4: that was pregnant during twenty twenty I feel like this

519
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Speaker 4: bond with because it was such an insane time to

520
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Speaker 4: be carrying.

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Speaker 5: Was it your first? No? No, okay, got it.

522
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Speaker 4: Got it my second, but totally different experience right like

523
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Speaker 4: that time was so wild. But but we went down

524
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Speaker 4: for shooting, so by the time we got back to shoot,

525
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Speaker 4: I was done with my pregnancy. I just had first

526
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Speaker 4: trimester on the show. But yes, but for you that's

527
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Speaker 4: not the case because shows are up and running by

528
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Speaker 4: the time, and we.

529
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Speaker 5: Were one of the first shows back up and running.

530
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Speaker 5: It was like we went back in September of twenty

531
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Speaker 5: twenty and I was like five months pregnant. So it

532
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Speaker 5: was a really precurious time to be going back to

533
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Speaker 5: work because that was like full ppe, you know, like

534
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Speaker 5: people in like as much and the goggles your own

535
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:40,880
Speaker 5: little kid masks. Yeah, and you're sitting there like, I'm like, wow,

536
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Speaker 5: I'm I felt so vulnerable being pregnant and being unmasked

537
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 5: and working. And but also I was like, well, we're

538
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Speaker 5: all getting tested, you know, multiple times a week. I

539
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Speaker 5: guess this is the safest place to be. It's better

540
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Speaker 5: than being home and just being anxious and thinking about

541
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Speaker 5: things all day. But yeah, yeah, it was. It's so

542
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Speaker 5: strange I think back on now that that was almost

543
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 5: it's like all a blurb.

544
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Speaker 3: Well, when you talk about the return to work, I

545
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Speaker 3: think it's actually so interesting because I feel like top

546
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Speaker 3: note question for women who are pregnant on shows, if

547
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Speaker 3: you will, is like what did you do when you're pregnant?

548
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 3: Like how did you hide it? Right? I feel like

549
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 3: the far more important question was like, what happened once

550
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 3: you going back to work after having a baby? Yeah,

551
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Speaker 3: like that whole the negotiation, Like at least they were

552
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Speaker 3: all tucked in there and they were you know, I'd

553
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Speaker 3: carry charts and then as technology advanced, I'd be hearing

554
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Speaker 3: iPads work.

555
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Speaker 2: I was big, I'd be behind counters.

556
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Speaker 3: But it was after having the baby, the return to work,

557
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Speaker 3: So both of you return to work post pandemic with baby.

558
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Speaker 5: Yeah, how is it for you?

559
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Speaker 4: It was good that I was batch at work, but

560
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Speaker 4: like it was just I found it very intimidating. I just,

561
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Speaker 4: you know, because it's like you don't want to on

562
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Speaker 4: these shows. You don't want to like make out with

563
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 4: any I didn't want to like make out any see

564
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Speaker 4: any with wanting anyone because I was like, oh god,

565
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Speaker 4: I'm going to bring it back. I have a new born.

566
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Speaker 4: I'm like, I was a little paranoid. But luckily on

567
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Speaker 4: our show, by the way, there was like, you know,

568
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 4: we had ppe that we had to wear on our show.

569
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Speaker 4: It was almost like the safest to be on Oh yeah, yeah,

570
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Speaker 4: but you know, so that was that for yeah, But

571
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Speaker 4: what about for you?

572
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I Mean the fortunate part was I was I

573
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Speaker 5: got about a month off, which I know doesn't sound

574
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Speaker 5: like it's not a lot of time, But the privilege

575
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Speaker 5: of being able to bring your baby to work, I know,

576
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Speaker 5: is it's truly a privilege that most most new parents,

577
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Speaker 5: it's not even within the realm of possibility. So I'll

578
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Speaker 5: just start with that that the fact that I could

579
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Speaker 5: bring my baby and I could nurse and he was

580
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Speaker 5: there with me was amazing. And we only were back

581
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Speaker 5: at work for about i'd say, like two months before

582
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Speaker 5: we had our hiatus, and then you know, I had

583
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Speaker 5: a good like three months off or four months off

584
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Speaker 5: before I had to go back to work for the

585
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Speaker 5: next season. So it was it worked out pretty well.

586
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Speaker 5: And I also feel really fortunate to have had like

587
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 5: showrunners and a creator and like a support system at

588
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 5: work of very incredibly understanding individuals who were all parents themselves,

589
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 5: who made it as easy and seamless as possible for

590
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Speaker 5: me to be there, for Gus to be with me,

591
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Speaker 5: And it was truly a dream. I was like, oh,

592
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 5: so this is this is the way it can be.

593
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 5: And you hear like those stories from other actors who

594
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 5: are like, if you're lucky enough to be on show

595
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 5: that's running for multiple seasons, like, that's when you should

596
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 5: have a kid.

597
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Speaker 6: If you're thinking about.

598
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Speaker 2: This reminds me of something, Camilla, What did I say

599
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 2: to you?

600
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Speaker 4: Is this is why I got pregnantly. Honestly, I wouldn't

601
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Speaker 4: have had kids unless Jessica Capshall told me. No, She's

602
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 4: the reason that I'm tired every day and I've aged

603
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 4: so much. Yes, No, Jessica was like when I got

604
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 4: on the show, she was like, you have to have

605
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 4: children on this show because of Sean and Lane. And

606
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 4: by the way, they're super, super amazingly supportive. I do

607
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 4: need to segue because Mandy, I don't know if you

608
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 4: know this, but we have had fans right into our

609
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 4: podcast to ask us to help them, and we would

610
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 4: love for you to help give some of our fans

611
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 4: advice on some of their problems.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I will. So.

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Speaker 3: The whole premise is that we are by the way,

614
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Speaker 3: we are well, the premise they don't feel too much pressure.

615
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 3: Premise is that we are absolutely unlicensed to advise anyway.

616
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we might be terrible.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be optimistic again here and.

618
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Speaker 4: We're going to be great at this.

619
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Speaker 2: Who wants terrible advice? Cavilla, This is not the way.

620
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Speaker 3: Okay.

621
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 4: So my premise is, like I might say, wow, this

622
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Speaker 4: is crazy.

623
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Speaker 2: She's a wild card a bit. I love it, that's true.

624
00:29:59,440 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 4: That's okay.

625
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 5: You guys are the perfect yin and yang to each other.

626
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 2: And there we go, there we go.

627
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 4: So the point is that.

628
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 3: The premise is that we so love helping each other

629
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 3: and solving each other's problems, that we are creating a

630
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 3: bigger friendship circle that you are now part of. And

631
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Speaker 3: we have asked people to also join us in their

632
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Speaker 3: you know, in their travels. And so we've had a couple, well,

633
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Speaker 3: we've had quite a few. We're super lucky.

634
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Speaker 4: We've had thousands apparently.

635
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Speaker 3: To write in and and and so we're gonna give

636
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Speaker 3: them our two cents. But are you are you up

637
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Speaker 3: for it?

638
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 5: I'm game. I'll try my best.

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Speaker 3: Let's go and then then and then the idea is

640
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 3: that we're gonna then we're gonna call it what it is,

641
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 3: with love and kindness and as much as much grace

642
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,479
Speaker 3: and compassion as is possible in the world, all of it.

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Speaker 4: I love it. Okay, are you guys ready?

644
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Speaker 2: This is the first one.

645
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Speaker 4: This is the first one. Emily French. Okay, she wrote

646
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Speaker 4: us on Instagram. She dmd us and she said, Hi, ladies,

647
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Speaker 4: I have a question for y'all's podcast. I was wondering

648
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 4: what advice do you have for healing after a breakup.

649
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 4: I recently broke up with my girlfriend of four years.

650
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Speaker 4: It was my first relationship and so my very first

651
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 4: ever heartbreak. And I lost my mom to cancer when

652
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 4: I was a teenager, and navigating with this without any

653
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Speaker 4: motherly advice has been difficult. Thank you so.

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Speaker 5: Much, man, Emily.

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Speaker 4: Emily, Well, first off, I lost my mom when I

656
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 4: was a teenager too, so I understand. I understand what

657
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Speaker 4: it's like to sort of not be able to pick

658
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Speaker 4: up the phone and be like, Mom, what do I do? However,

659
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Speaker 4: even without that, I will say that you can kick

660
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Speaker 4: heartbreak in the butt. You can handle this like a boss.

661
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Speaker 4: I read a butt you guys when I went through

662
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Speaker 4: my very very I was. I don't know how old

663
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 4: you guys were when you had like your first love heartbreak.

664
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Speaker 4: I was about twenty two and I ordered a book

665
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Speaker 4: called It's Called a Breakup Because It's Broken. Jessica, you're

666
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:57,719
Speaker 4: friends with this.

667
00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 5: I do.

668
00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:58,479
Speaker 4: I know them.

669
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Speaker 2: I knew them when they were writing it.

670
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Wow, It's the best book for a heartbreak ever.

671
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 4: America makes you like love it. I loved it so

672
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 4: much that I remember this moment, you guys. I was

673
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 4: reading it and my ex was calling, and usually I

674
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 4: would have been like, oh my god and pick up.

675
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 4: And I remember, and I'm being like, this is working.

676
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 4: I hit decline on my phone and just continued reading,

677
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 4: and I was like, freedom, I'm getting over it.

678
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, I.

679
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 4: I love that.

680
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 3: I see that, and I go full nosedive into the sad.

681
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 4: I go sally like you embrace oh, I.

682
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 2: Literally wear like until I'm done with.

683
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 4: The morning morning.

684
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Speaker 3: It's interesting, I think that I skew a little avoidant. Typically,

685
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 3: my my normal flight pattern is avoidant when things get

686
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 3: a little rough, and so when something truly does completely

687
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 3: devolve and break apart, I actually think that that is

688
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 3: when I feel the freedom to be like, I'm going

689
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 3: to feel all of it.

690
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 4: I'm just going to.

691
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 3: Lean into this terrible feeling. And know that I always

692
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 3: say this, but I think it's but it's true. It's

693
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 3: that everything will be okay in the end, and if

694
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 3: it's not okay, it's not the end. And so I

695
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 3: sort of just allow myself to be swallowed by it,

696
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 3: and it has served me well because when I'm done

697
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 3: with the morning, I really am done. So I like

698
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 3: the sadness so emily feel the heartbreak. If someone was

699
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,959
Speaker 3: in your life for that long, they were important. So

700
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 3: and I hate that idea that you know that when

701
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 3: something's over that it was a waste. I truly do

702
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 3: think that we're some of our experiences, and I think

703
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 3: that heartbreak can be actually an incredibly nutritive thing, and

704
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 3: sometimes you have to break things apart to put them

705
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 3: back together in a stronger way.

706
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 5: So that would be my that is i'd so beautiful

707
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 5: and such a great like prescription. I was thinking similarly

708
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 5: just that, like it's it's unfortunate, and it's not what

709
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 5: you want to hear in the moment while you're like

710
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 5: in the it's the wallowing and just utter sadness, but

711
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 5: it is. It is for a reason, and it is

712
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 5: so informative moving forward of what you want, what you

713
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 5: don't want, what you deserve, what you don't deserve, Like

714
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 5: it's the unfortunate part of life, Like we have to

715
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 5: have that experience and feel broken in order to be

716
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 5: able to pick up the pieces and move forward, and

717
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 5: it's like it it clearly it wasn't the thing, it

718
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 5: wasn't meant for you, and something else out there will be.

719
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 5: And it's again it's hard to sort of digest all

720
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 5: of that, I think in the moment, but it's it

721
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 5: will all be for a reason moving forward.

722
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 4: I used to tell myself that, like, this is what

723
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 4: used to help me too. I used to tell myself,

724
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 4: the guy that is going to fall in love with

725
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 4: you and be the one is at Starbucks right now

726
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 4: ordering a drink. And I know it's so silly, but

727
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 4: like it helped me to feel like that's what he's

728
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,399
Speaker 4: doing right now, and he's wondering when he's gonna find

729
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 4: his girl, and I'm the girl. We just haven't found

730
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 4: each other yet. So I used to use like my

731
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,439
Speaker 4: little Starbucks another.

732
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 2: Very nora Ephron.

733
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 4: I love it.

734
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 3: It's like a Nora Ephron, like you might have been

735
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:12,760
Speaker 3: walking down the same street.

736
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 4: But yes, yes, And so I used to think, like,

737
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 4: it's not him, and whoever it is, they're at Starbucks

738
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 4: right now, and I need to be patient and find

739
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 4: them because they're waiting for me too.

740
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 3: I also think, you know what I think It's funny

741
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 3: because I was talking to someone recently who had who

742
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 3: was going through this, and I've said this a couple

743
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 3: of times, but I think it's because it's so true.

744
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,720
Speaker 3: I had someone call me it was like really devastated, crying, crying, crying,

745
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 3: and I said, you know what, at least this is

746
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 3: what's true for me. Every person who broke my heart,

747
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 3: I truly felt like, if it was it five days later,

748
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 3: five weeks later, five years, ten year, whatever, whatever, whatever,

749
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 3: you will write them a thank you note. And you

750
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 3: don't know when you're gonna realize that the thank you

751
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 3: note's gonna come. It could take you five days, five weeks,

752
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 3: five years, whatever, but one day there's gonna be a

753
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 3: thank you note that you write that person for breaking

754
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 3: your heart, because if they hadn't broken your heart, you

755
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 3: wouldn't have gone on to the path that you went

756
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 3: on to landed you where you are. And I think

757
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 3: that the gratitude piece for me has always been like

758
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 3: the baseline for understanding and creating joy. And I love

759
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 3: living and joy. Like clearly obviously nobody wants to live

760
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 3: in pain. But I think maybe that's like the thing

761
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 3: that comes with me is like I either go full

762
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 3: pain or full joy, but the gratitude helps get me.

763
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 4: Yeah.

764
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 2: So again, that's another way for the heartbreak.

765
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 4: Have you guys thought about like yet, that moment where

766
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 4: your kid grows up and you're gonna have to re

767
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 4: experience heartbreak through them.

768
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 3: You mean, like when someone heartbreaks my kid's heart and

769
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:40,879
Speaker 3: I kill them.

770
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 4: I think about this and you and you you guys, this.

771
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 2: Happens like at school when a kid picks on my kid.

772
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 4: I know, I'm thinking. I mean, the first time I

773
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 4: see my son or my daughter go through heartbreak, I

774
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 4: don't know if I'm going to have any chill like

775
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 4: in this moment. I can have like chill, but I don't. Mandy,

776
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 4: do you ever think about this with your science?

777
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:07,439
Speaker 5: Haven't thought that far because there's so little still I'm like, yeah,

778
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 5: I haven't wrapped my head around that.

779
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 4: Mandy. Will you like to close it out with rapid

780
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 4: fire questions?

781
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 2: Okay and bye? We like to.

782
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 3: We like to close it out means you're our first guest,

783
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 3: and this is the first time we're.

784
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 2: Doing rappid fire questions like we've.

785
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 4: Done a hundred times to be the guinea This is

786
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 4: our tradition that we've just this is our first. Yeah,

787
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 4: I acted like it's a tradition we've done for.

788
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 2: Like I just want to say, and it's not because

789
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 2: I'm trying to ingratiate myself into your.

790
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: Number one position.

791
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 2: But this has just been such.

792
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 3: A pleasure, and I'm so grateful that you are first.

793
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 4: Guys, You're the best.

794
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 5: I serious, truly, I had no idea. I'm so honored.

795
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 5: This was such a blast. You both are delightful. I

796
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 5: I can't choose. I'm just truly to be the third

797
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Speaker 5: week if you're walking, But like stack available anytime, I'll

798
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Speaker 5: just come in and jump in and out whenever.

799
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Speaker 6: I'm not great with advice, but but.

800
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 5: I'll just chime in whenever I thought.

801
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 3: You were I thought you I thought you were too.

802
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 4: I loved that advice. I thought that was great. Okay,

803
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Speaker 4: well you go first. Okay, I'll go first. Sour Patch Kids,

804
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Speaker 4: I just went to the movie theaters. This is where

805
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,280
Speaker 4: this came from. Sour Patch Kids or Swedish.

806
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Speaker 5: Fish sour Patch Kids.

807
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Speaker 2: Feels are flats.

808
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Speaker 4: Flats favorite holiday Halloween?

809
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Speaker 9: Oh me too.

810
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 2: You guys might be besties.

811
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Speaker 3: Love.

812
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Speaker 5: How do you like your eggs scrambled?

813
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 4: Mm hm? Did you go to sleep away camp as

814
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Speaker 4: a kid? Yes? Was it the best?

815
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 5: Yes? It is like this is a memory that I'm

816
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 5: I'm so excited for my kids to have.

817
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 2: Was it stage Door?

818
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:57,439
Speaker 4: Yes?

819
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,439
Speaker 2: I want my daughter to go so bad.

820
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 5: If my kids are remotely interested in musical theater, I'm

821
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 5: gonna send them as well. It was like the greatest

822
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 5: time of my life.

823
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 3: She won't do the sleeping.

824
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 4: I love this.

825
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 5: I get it that it's she won't Yeah, it is,

826
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 5: I know, I know. Hot.

827
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 4: Do you remember how old you were when you.

828
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 5: Find was eleven? I was young, But I love.

829
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 4: That feels like a good age. That feels like it.

830
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 5: But I get it. I hope my kids are like,

831
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 5: I just want to stay home with you, mom. Yeah,

832
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 5: I'd be fine with that.

833
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 2: Please until she went once.

834
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 3: And that's why she won't go again, because she actually

835
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 3: reported she missed me too much. It was actually it

836
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 3: became painful. It was painful longing as opposed.

837
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 2: To just normal longing.

838
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 4: I don't know.

839
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 7: That is.

840
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 3: I know, And that's you can't really I know, And

841
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 3: you can't turn around and be like, no, kid, go

842
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:51,280
Speaker 3: for the painful longing.

843
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 5: Never have to leave me again. Never.

844
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 3: But you're reminding me of Tangled. You lived in my

845
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 3: house for very long time. Just so we're clear about

846
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 3: that Tangled. You're so good in that the fact that

847
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 3: you can convey what you conveyed with your voice on

848
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 3: an animated character. I mean truly, I don't Oh no,

849
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 3: no, no no.

850
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Speaker 2: It was real. It was so real and it went

851
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 2: on for so long.

852
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 4: That I do have to ask this. I'm desperate to

853
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 4: ask this because I one of my friends on Instagram

854
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 4: is a Disney adult, which is an adult that loves Disney. Right,

855
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 4: so now everything on my Instagram, like the feed, like

856
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 4: the algorithm prompts all the Disney. Okay, So Tokyo Disney

857
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 4: has a tangle rightaw right? Okay? So have you done it?

858
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 4: And I want to know, Like, I just want to

859
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 4: know really quick when you go to Disneyland, are you

860
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 4: like carried around the like? What is what is the experience?

861
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 2: It's in that I have float to the front of

862
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 2: the line.

863
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 4: Yes, even more than the VIP guy.

864
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 6: I have not been to Tokyo Disney.

865
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 5: That is a bucket list. In fact, Zach le By,

866
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 5: who's been tang as well, we were both texting about it,

867
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 5: like this is so cool we need otherwise known as

868
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 5: splind writer. But no, I mean I think if you

869
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 5: are fortunate enough to be in the Disney family, and

870
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 5: you guys have been on an ABC show and the

871
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 5: Gray's Anatomy universe, so there is the lovely perk of

872
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 5: of getting the occasional tour guid to Disney. I wouldn't

873
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 5: say that being a princess is too different. Maybe I'm not, like,

874
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:29,720
Speaker 5: maybe a cool enough princess. Maybe I'm not frozen or something,

875
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 5: but like, yeah, they're they are.

876
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 2: I think we're going for you.

877
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:34,720
Speaker 4: You're iconic.

878
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 5: I'm not complaining.

879
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 4: I don't know.

880
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 2: I don't hear complaining. I'm just saying that it might

881
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 2: be room for improvement.

882
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 5: If I could bring the boys, you know, and and

883
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,760
Speaker 5: have a tour guide. I am. I am deeply, deeply grateful.

884
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 5: But other than that, nine, No, it's it's pretty.

885
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, I don't think I personally don't think you

886
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 4: should have to walk. Yeah, I could just be carrying you.

887
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 5: That's the fun of Disney.

888
00:41:58,560 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 7: Though.

889
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 5: I'm one of I'm one of those Disney adults where

890
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 5: I just like I geek out at a theme park.

891
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 5: I'm from Orlando. I think it's like just in my DNA.

892
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 6: I love like yeah, I love scooting around.

893
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 5: I want to wear the Mickey ears. I want the truro,

894
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 5: I want the candy out, I want the whole experience thing.

895
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, Mandy, thank you so so much for having me.

896
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 4: This is the fans are all gonna delightful.

897
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 6: You guys are so much fun. I could talk to

898
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:24,720
Speaker 6: you all day.

899
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 5: Will you come back on anytime? Yes?

900
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 4: Really? Okay, help me in and we won't make you

901
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 4: choose no, no no. Between the two of us, we've

902
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 4: agreed on a throttle.

903
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 5: I'm happy to be in a threatle with you, guys.

904
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,240
Speaker 4: I love it.

905
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 2: I know, I know this is such winning.

906
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 6: You guys need a brunette. You need a brunette in

907
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 6: a threatle.

908
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 4: Mandy, we love you, and if I pass you at

909
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 4: Disneyland and you're walking, I'm gonna complain.

910
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 5: We'll join groups. Congrats on the podcast, guys.

911
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 3: All right, thanks, ladies, I have a fantastic thank guys, you.

912
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 9: Too, Bye bye bye.

913
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 4: She's awesome. I'm glad you didn't kicked between us as

914
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 4: best friends, because I would have been very dramas I've

915
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 4: been TuS.

916
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 3: We didn't force that because it was just it was

917
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 3: an organic.

918
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do. Yeah, but we sent out the bat signal.

919
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 4: I'm still gonna describe it that way for you guys

920
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 4: to contact us. And we have literally had thousands of messages,

921
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 4: and I have to tell you, guys, I'm so deeply touched.

922
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 4: Jessica and I were reading through some of.

923
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 3: Them yesterday and reading every single one of them, reading

924
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:49,919
Speaker 3: all of them.

925
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:51,919
Speaker 4: I don't care how long it's gonna take, We're gonna

926
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 4: go through all of them, and people are really pouring

927
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 4: out their hearts and they're getting vulnerable in our candia

928
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 4: and I love you guys already. I'm already feeling the

929
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 4: call it community like coming together.

930
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely, It's so and it's so fantastic, and I

931
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 3: think that it really is a testament to how vulnerability

932
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 3: is one of the strongest choices you can make in

933
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 3: your life, right because you're gonna stay stuck if you

934
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 3: don't open up and let people help. And so again,

935
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 3: here we are, here, we are ready to wrap our

936
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 3: arms around any problem. I hope we were helpful. I

937
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 3: hope we were helpful in that one. I do you

938
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 3: think three different perspectives on how to deal with it?

939
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 4: Right, yes, and I think we'll get I think that

940
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 4: there'll be more breakup questions along the way. And by

941
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 4: the way, you guys can literally DM us about anything,

942
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 4: and I'm talking about like, do you have a possession

943
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 4: in your house? Your objects moving? Is there paramol activity?

944
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 4: We will literally figure out how to unsummon a demon

945
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 4: if we need to. But no, I'm sure we'll have

946
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 4: more breakup you know, questions, but because it's something that

947
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 4: we all go through in life, and we're going to

948
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 4: get into it in different ways with different answers, and

949
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 4: you're going to hear more of our experiences. But already

950
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,439
Speaker 4: it was just so nice to feel like we were

951
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 4: having this communication with you guys.

952
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 3: Well also, it's just you know, the answers are not

953
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 3: going to be one size fits all, but hopefully through

954
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 3: hearing us talk about it, you will absolutely know you

955
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,720
Speaker 3: are not alone. This is this is something that happens

956
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 3: to everyone. You don't get to participate in life without

957
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 3: having your heartbroken at least once.

958
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 2: If not many times.

959
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 4: You guys, we're gonna wrap it up today.

960
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 2: I love I love being here with you.

961
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 4: This is fantastic, I know, and I love that it's

962
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 4: I love that it's not just us. It really does

963
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 4: feel like our little, our little friendship circle that's getting

964
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 4: bigger and bigger and bigger, and we can't.

965
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 2: Be so grateful.

966
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,720
Speaker 4: Hop back on with you guys. Next time we will

967
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 4: be tackling another question from somebody again. Dm us, call us,

968
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 4: email us, give us all the details in the world.

969
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 4: If you want to stay anonymous, let us know. We

970
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 4: won't even say a name, and we're gonna we're gonna

971
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 4: tackle it all, tackle it all head on.

972
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 2: And just remember that without you, it would just be

973
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 2: Kamilla and I here talking. So thank you, thank you

974
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 2: for being here.

975
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 3: And we also know that you have a lot of

976
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,959
Speaker 3: choices in the podcast that you listen to. There are

977
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 3: so many out there, So thank you, thank you for

978
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 3: taking this time to be with us. We are so

979
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 3: grateful and we are so excited for more and more

980
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 3: and more and more and more.

981
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 4: Hey friends, we wanted to add a little extra note

982
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 4: at the end of this episode because something very special

983
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 4: happened after we recorded. Mandy Moore came out and revealed

984
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 4: that she is pregnant with baby number three.

985
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 3: And this is not only exciting for many, many, many reasons,

986
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 3: but mostly because I think she's.

987
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 4: Gonna have to come back, right, she's gonna have to

988
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:48,439
Speaker 4: come back.

989
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna have to talk about this. I mean,

990
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 2: because we are her besties.

991
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 3: Not sure how she can get away with not talking

992
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 3: to us about that. Anyways, So exc I had heard

993
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 3: a million congratulations and I guess let's call it

994
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 4: A new pregnancy