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Speaker 1: The Around the League Podcast Always gets the Pig six.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Round the League Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan hands hiss name joined by two heroes,

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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler and Greg Rosenthal. What up boys? How you doing?

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Speaker 1: Oh Man? Dan's excited his big night, his new favorite team,

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Speaker 1: the Patriots. What a classic life? What a life for

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal? I think about it, if you are a

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Speaker 1: New England sportsman, everything comes up Roses. Well, they listed

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Speaker 1: at some point during the game. We're about to talk

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Speaker 1: about all the championships that have been won in the

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Speaker 1: Boston sports area in the last what ten years. I

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Speaker 1: don't think if you had a few drinks and you

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Speaker 1: could even name all that. Yeah, it's outrageous. You forgot

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Speaker 1: My wife is a professionally trained chef to what a life?

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Speaker 1: What a life for this guy? But does she love you? Well?

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Speaker 1: It comes and goes, you know. I'm just happy Mark

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Speaker 1: is here tonight. He's not always here on Sunday nights,

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Speaker 1: and he's here for the latest greatest powering through. So yes,

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Speaker 1: the game we're obviously talking about it is the Sunday

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Speaker 1: Night Classic the New England Patriots at thirty one win

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Speaker 1: in overtime, a game in which the Denver Broncos were

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Speaker 1: up twenty four nothing at the at the end of

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Speaker 1: the midway through the second quarter, things spiraled out of control.

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Speaker 1: All of a sudden, it was the Patriots up thirty

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Speaker 1: to the Broncos credit and Peyton mannings credit even though

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Speaker 1: he had a subpar game. They managed to you know,

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Speaker 1: some testicular fortitude, tie the game up at thirty one late,

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Speaker 1: go to overtime, and then Tony Carter plays the role

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Speaker 1: of Raheem more uh punt hits him wrong place, wrong time,

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Speaker 1: field goal. Patriots win and the Broncos. Same old questions

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Speaker 1: about the Broncos. Can they win in a big spot again?

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Speaker 1: They proved they cannot and now we must wait until January.

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Speaker 1: I'm so angry. What what an insane game? That the

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Speaker 1: greatest comeback in Patriots franchise history, which is also, of

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Speaker 1: course Tom Brady's biggest comic, almost felt like an afterthought

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Speaker 1: by the end, because the Patriots took the lead with

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Speaker 1: seven forty left in the game, and it just felt

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Speaker 1: like our minds had been blown thirty one in the

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Speaker 1: first twenty two minutes of that second half out of nowhere.

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Speaker 1: But then there was a whole other game that happened

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Speaker 1: after that. There was a lot to talk about. Manning

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Speaker 1: looked great. Uh, Belichick decides to kick the ball and

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Speaker 1: take the wind in overtime, it goes back and forth,

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Speaker 1: there's penalties, and then the Fluke play ends it. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know what to say. Well, it's

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Speaker 1: that's a good way to put it, because you know,

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Speaker 1: as the game is evolving, we're like, what should we

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Speaker 1: write about? What are we gonna focus on the three

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Speaker 1: of us? How do we cut this up? And a

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Speaker 1: couple of times we had latched onto this is our storyline,

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Speaker 1: and it kept changing and it kept becoming more and

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Speaker 1: different as the moments went on. It was very busy

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Speaker 1: to imagine if when the Belichick tells the Patriots to

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Speaker 1: differ on the overtime kickoff, imagine if the Broncos go

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Speaker 1: down the field, put six on the board and end

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Speaker 1: the game. Literally every piece of content would be lined

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Speaker 1: up for NFL dot Com and NFL Network for a

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Speaker 1: week straight. Would be a game version of bounty Gate.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it would have been outrageous. That's why I

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Speaker 1: love this game, not just because the Patriots wasn't, but

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Speaker 1: that the narrative busting moment of the game because everyone

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Speaker 1: was ready to talk about how Manning can't play in

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Speaker 1: the cold at all, and he did only end up

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Speaker 1: with four point two yards per tempt and he was

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Speaker 1: But everyone is going to talk about how he couldn't

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Speaker 1: at the end of regulation to force over. I don't

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Speaker 1: think there's well Brady badly outplayed Manning in this game,

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Speaker 1: but I do think there is something to that, at

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Speaker 1: least that at this stage of his career, while man

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Speaker 1: remains one of the elite passers in the league, his

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Speaker 1: arm isn't built for these type of conditions, So I think,

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Speaker 1: out of the gate, he had a sixty yard fumble recovery,

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Speaker 1: They didn't more you know, Manning didn't have to go

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Speaker 1: that big lead they built. Oh and by the way,

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Speaker 1: no san Moreno ran for two yards on thirty seven carries.

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Speaker 1: He might not be able to take another carry the

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Speaker 1: rest of the year. They used him up so much

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, it was a great game, buddy,

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Speaker 1: I you know, I love all the narrative busting and

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Speaker 1: Dan and I had a conversation about whether it was

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Speaker 1: a shame that the game ended on this fluke play

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Speaker 1: after so much happened, you know, But the more I

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Speaker 1: thought about it, that's what this game was. There was

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Speaker 1: ten fumbles. The Patriots had six fumbles in the first

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Speaker 1: quarter and a half. I mean, that's football. Football is

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Speaker 1: a fluke. A team won the Super Bowl last year

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Speaker 1: essentially because Colin Kaepernick and Jim Harback couldn't get the

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Speaker 1: that's what happened. Sometimes teams win because of fluke. So

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Speaker 1: I think it was a totally fitting net. Uh what

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Speaker 1: a life for Greg. Alright, let's move on up next.

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Speaker 1: It's time for our weekly call to our Chicago correspondent. Uh,

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Speaker 1: he's a legend. They called him. Kevin Patra Kevin Patrick.

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Speaker 1: What is happening? How's it going today? Fellas, It's going great.

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Speaker 1: So what happened to that little bit where you would

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Speaker 1: tell us what Kevin was coming back from with some

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Speaker 1: just there was a level of preparation that I wasn't

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Speaker 1: prepared to keep up on a weekly Baby ran out

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Speaker 1: But I also didn't get a good crowd pop from

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Speaker 1: but now I'm being told it works. Well. It's kind

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Speaker 1: Kevin patra Um, you watched two games and covered them

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Speaker 1: very closely today, and we'll start with your boys. Matthew

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Speaker 1: Stafford's fourth interception went in and out of Calvin Johnson's

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Speaker 1: allowing the Buccaneers to hold over the lines on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: The Bucks have now won three straight after losing after

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Speaker 1: losing their first eight games, joining the nineteen St. Louis

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Speaker 1: this is a bad loss for your lines, isn't it terrible?

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Speaker 1: And the last play was pretty emblematic of the entire game.

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Speaker 1: Just bad turnovers and dropped passes. Good some good play

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Speaker 1: happy Stafford and he didn't get much help from his

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Speaker 1: do I mean on offense, glennon only threat. He looked

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Speaker 1: pretty much the story of the game. Kevin, so Detroit

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Speaker 1: are you, uh, as a Lions fan, are you concerned?

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Speaker 1: haven't say yet, because while nobody wants a division uh,

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Speaker 1: when he's turned the ball over. Uh. The Green Bay

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Speaker 1: five turnovers and the Bucks didn't have any. It's almost

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Speaker 1: impossible to win that such a weird stat game. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they only gave up ten first down, they had twenty five.

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Speaker 1: and Greg Siano are making a great case to be

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Speaker 1: the guys there in Tampa next year. And if they

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Speaker 1: too much to say about it. They're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: keep him. Yeah, Kevin, are you seeing what a lot

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Speaker 1: of people are seeing, which is that Mike Lennon looks

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Speaker 1: like he could play a little bit. Yeah, he definitely

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Speaker 1: one on Sunday. Kevin Patrick, we forked the St. Louis Rams.

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Speaker 1: Is that something that we should really be starting to

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Speaker 1: have like a big mug in each hand, just conquering

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Speaker 1: hero type stuff. It does seem that way. We actually

426
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Speaker 1: that's a good guess. That's exactly what I'm gonna do

427
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Speaker 1: right now. Les, go get back at it, come home

428
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:12,719
Speaker 1: all right, nice up Son. Alright, this, this Carolina win

429
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,479
Speaker 1: is kind of one of those that you you wanted

430
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,199
Speaker 1: to see out of them though, a game where they

431
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 1: don't really play very well and they still manage to

432
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Speaker 1: get the win. That's that's what good teams do. It's

433
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,440
Speaker 1: setting up their two games against the Saints just to

434
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Speaker 1: be Titanic clashes. I'm really looking forward to. This would

435
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:30,680
Speaker 1: have kind of ruined those games a little bit, and

436
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 1: they got out of it. You know, I wouldn't look

437
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 1: past the Bucks next week would be a good matchup.

438
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 1: You know, you're a good team when you win your

439
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 1: letdown games, something that our teams don't know a whole

440
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,640
Speaker 1: lot about. We're getting to that. In fact, why don't

441
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Speaker 1: we get to that? Um Joe Flacco through a sixty

442
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 1: six yard touchdown past the Jacobe Jones, Justin Tucker kicked

443
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Speaker 1: four field goals, and the Baltimore Ravens shut down the

444
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,120
Speaker 1: sputtering offense of the New York Jets in a nineteen

445
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Speaker 1: three victory on Sunday. Um last Sunday, I talked about

446
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 1: how the Geno Coaster had derailed, and I was off

447
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,919
Speaker 1: the Geno Coast. I couldn't do it. Anymore. Uh, nothing

448
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 1: that happened on Sunday did anything to change my mind.

449
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 1: And I'll give you this one stat before I throw

450
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Speaker 1: it to you guys. With Geno Smith at quarterback, the

451
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 1: Jets have now scored one touchdown in their last thirty

452
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Speaker 1: one possessions. The guy is not the answer. Maybe not forever,

453
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 1: but not right now. He is not the answer. And

454
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 1: every game they stick with him right now, they're putting

455
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Speaker 1: themselves at a serious, serious disadvantage to you would make

456
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Speaker 1: the move to Matt Simms this week before they played Miami.

457
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Speaker 1: That is how bad things are for the Jets and

458
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 1: how bad their their death chart is. Is that Rex

459
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 1: is in this position. And again, and we were talking

460
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Speaker 1: about this downstairs. Rex is not safe. I know there

461
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Speaker 1: was a lot of talk that the nice start of

462
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Speaker 1: the season and how the players have responded, and he

463
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 1: got some positive comments from his GM that you know,

464
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Speaker 1: he'll be back next year if they If they go

465
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 1: in the tank and they still lose double digit games,

466
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Speaker 1: he's in deep trouble. And now he's in a situation

467
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Speaker 1: where he has a rookie quarterback and Geno Smith who

468
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Speaker 1: has confidence. Right now, I mean, you could tell the

469
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Speaker 1: guy's confidences shot his twenty four completions in the past

470
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Speaker 1: three games. I mean, they're they're just not moving the

471
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Speaker 1: ball through the air and he can only turn to

472
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Speaker 1: Matt Sims, an undrafted free agent with no experience and

473
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Speaker 1: you know, questionable physical skills. It's just they're in a

474
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Speaker 1: bad spot. But it might be the only thing they

475
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Speaker 1: can do to potentially jump start their season. See I

476
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Speaker 1: I'd have a big issue with them after what the

477
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Speaker 1: Jets have done this season, when the expectations were outrageously low.

478
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 1: Rex has done a good job and you put what

479
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Speaker 1: Gino has done week after week, A lot of coaches,

480
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Speaker 1: a lot of good coaches would struggle to win games

481
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Speaker 1: with that, And we're gonna we're gonna fire Rex Ryan

482
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Speaker 1: after with a roster that supports him, there's been very

483
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 1: little drama there. He has handled all the ups and downs. Fine,

484
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Speaker 1: this is the season that we fire him after. I

485
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Speaker 1: think he's gonna get fired even if they go eight

486
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Speaker 1: and A mean, the owner is a Rex fan. I

487
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 1: just think when a new general manager comes in, he

488
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,120
Speaker 1: wants to do it his way and that they're gonna

489
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Speaker 1: have to have a I've thought all along they're gonna

490
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 1: end up having to having Wayne record right or wrong.

491
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Speaker 1: I think it would be wrong too. I agree with

492
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Speaker 1: your points. It have that much power. I don't want

493
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: to get off track, but I mean, honestly, like this

494
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 1: wasn't hasn't been a disaster, well not yet. It's starts

495
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Speaker 1: to go. That's fair. They were the worst five and

496
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Speaker 1: four team. We talked about it in NFL history in

497
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Speaker 1: terms of point differential. Now they're five and six and

498
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,640
Speaker 1: maybe their records gonna catch up with how good they

499
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Speaker 1: really are. Right, And one thing I do want to

500
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Speaker 1: say about about Geno Smith is they're putting him in

501
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 1: a tough spot too, because obviously we know there's no

502
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,360
Speaker 1: weapons around him, the offensive line play has been subpar,

503
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: and what they did today and which kind of feeds

504
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Speaker 1: into my feeling about them needing to maybe go in

505
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Speaker 1: a different direction for now, is they are they have

506
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 1: no faith in him, and their game plan dictated that

507
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Speaker 1: there was a lot of running the ball on first

508
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 1: and second down, a lot of wildcat um, just the

509
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: idea that they're gonna play it very safe, and that

510
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 1: led to a lot of like third and sevens and

511
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,199
Speaker 1: third and eights for Gino when he's not playing well

512
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 1: and the defense knows what's coming. So they're all there,

513
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,959
Speaker 1: all messed up now, and and a lot of that

514
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: goes back to that they've lost faith in the quarterback. Um.

515
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: You know, so you know you have that thing going on.

516
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 1: He doesn't have a touchdown since the Patriots game, Yes,

517
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 1: seven interceptions in that span. And Rex was asked after

518
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: the game, will Geno be the starter next week? He

519
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: did not have an answer for that, which I believe

520
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 1: is a first. So he's getting to the point where

521
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 1: he's seriously thinking about it. And when a coach doesn't

522
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: give an answer, I think it's on the table. They

523
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Speaker 1: play the Dolphins next week. That's a battle of the

524
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Speaker 1: to two of the five and six teams that are

525
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: all tied for the wild card spy, and I think

526
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: there's a chance we see it's not his decision entirely.

527
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: That's twenty three turnovers by the Bay. You know, good

528
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 1: defense they played, at least gotta give him some credit.

529
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 1: Did play good defense. And and just a couple other

530
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 1: quick notes Ed Reid and we knew this, but Ed

531
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Speaker 1: Reid is not ed read anymore. Uh, there was a

532
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 1: deep ball Joe Flacco. Um, had some nice deep balls

533
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Speaker 1: today and tough conditions. One of them basically was thrown

534
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Speaker 1: right in the vicina where ed Read the old d

535
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,640
Speaker 1: Read would have had an interception in this In this case,

536
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: he didn't react quickly enough and it was a long

537
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: touchdown for Jacoby Jones. So the whole idea of bringing

538
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 1: in that read to solve the Jets deep all woes

539
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: is not gonna do it. And just because we like

540
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,679
Speaker 1: talking about the snowsuit, Ray Rice that a hundred and

541
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Speaker 1: thirty one yard breakout game against the Bears last week,

542
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,439
Speaker 1: thirty yards on sixteen carries, Which is why, honestly, even

543
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 1: though the Rams are running the ball well, we shouldn't

544
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 1: look at anything they did today or the anything anyone

545
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 1: does against Chicago's defense and take it seriously. The Ravens

546
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: is set up the big Thanksgiving night. Mark Sessler's going

547
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 1: to be in the building in Culver City getting ready

548
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers Baltimore Ravens. We said it, Greg up out

549
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 1: of his chair at the concept of me working on

550
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving night. Cessler, Cessler's family three miles away, Cessler alone,

551
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: Cessler gonna die alone, Cessler Sessler's football. Uh we we

552
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 1: think the winner of this game is the a f

553
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,479
Speaker 1: C wild card. Do we agree with that, Ravens, I'm not.

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00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 1: As you just said, There's a third of the season left,

555
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,120
Speaker 1: so I'm not ready to go there yet. By the way,

556
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: thank you for joining us on Sunday night, Mark, You're welcome.

557
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: I'm currently on shift right now, so I'm enjoying here.

558
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: I am. I'm enjoying this. Um. Alright, let's move on.

559
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger through two touchdown passes and beat Cleveland again

560
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 1: as the Pittsburgh Steelers moved back into the playoff picture

561
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: with a eleven win over the Browns on Sunday, Mark,

562
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 1: you stuck your neck out for your team on Friday.

563
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 1: You picked them. That was your hero pick. The hero

564
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: crashes to the ground, a sad failure. I really thought

565
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: that Cleveland, this was a game at home that they

566
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Speaker 1: get up for and they play well, and from very

567
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: very early on, it was evident that was not going

568
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: to happen. And this, to me, remains a team well.

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Speaker 1: I thought a couple of weeks ago they were a

570
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: quarterback away from being competitive. I still think they're not

571
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 1: far away from being a decent team that can go

572
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: deep into the season and contend, but they've got issues

573
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: beyond Jason Campbell and beyond Brandon Weeden. But listen, you

574
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: cannot compete. I don't care how bad that six wild

575
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: card team is going to be in the ANFC without

576
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: a quarterback. And that's what Cleveland ax right now. They

577
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: don't have it. You know, Jason Campbell came out, he

578
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: was not that different from what he was last week.

579
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: Was a checkdown robot. He tried to throw the ball

580
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: down field a little bit more, but you know what

581
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: he just he doesn't seem to see the entire field.

582
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: Incomes Weedon, who commits a ghastly fumble before throwing a

583
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: pick six. Will never die, by the way, he will not.

584
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: And I don't want to take away, honestly, the story

585
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: of the game, which is Pittsburgh because their defense has

586
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: played really well of late. They did a great job today.

587
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: They shut down Cleveland entirely. And with Big Ben. You know,

588
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: Wesley was right a couple of weeks ago when Pittsburgh

589
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: looked completely out of it. It doesn't matter what's around

590
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: Big Bend, he makes it happen. Antonio Brown got the

591
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: best of Joe Hayden and Cleveland season is done. We're

592
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: forking him, and they're only one game out of the playoffs.

593
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: You have to admit that they true statement. And then

594
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,719
Speaker 1: and Greg and I got into in the news room

595
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: because Greg is right. Mathematically and statistically, yes, they're one

596
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: game out. But the way they played today and what

597
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: they did last week in two key A f C

598
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: North games where they could have changed everything, they completely

599
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: didn't show up. That to me tells me this is

600
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: still a five and eleven Browns team, and we have

601
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: an A f C team in this five and six

602
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: mix that is capable of going on a run. Because

603
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: they started their run when they got home from London,

604
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: and that's the Pittsburgh theaters. They were owing four and

605
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: now they're what they're five and six? So do the

606
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: math that mean they they've been on a good run. Really.

607
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: They had that one game in Oakland where they gave

608
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: up a couple of big, flukey plays and they couldn't

609
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 1: get it done. They missed some kicks in that game.

610
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: But other than that, they've consistently been a pretty good

611
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: team for about seven games now, and they're better than Baltimore.

612
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: We'll see, you know. The number one toy being targeted

613
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: by shoppers on Black Friday. It's supposed to be. I

614
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: don't even want to know check down robots. It took

615
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: me a while gets that. I was concerned with, where

616
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: are you're going to go on? That cuts through all

617
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: How pathetic is the whole like Black Friday thing though,

618
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: as a thing, as a society. I'm just saying, oh,

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00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: I couldn't agree with it. Have you ever participated in it?

620
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: I've never shopped, period, but yeah, in general, but I

621
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: don't buy things for other people. But yeah, well just

622
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: go on. You go on the computer and and check

623
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: out there and spend literally seventeen more dollars. You know

624
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: what I think it is in my experience, it's when

625
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: you get the whole family together, got eighteen nineteen people,

626
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: and it's a way for a pocket typically. I don't

627
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: want to, you know, generalize, but it's like mother and

628
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: daughter a grandmother go out to get out of the

629
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: house away from the men that have just been sitting around, eating, drinking,

630
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: watching TV for two days. It's like a normal and

631
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: whether or not they go to the mall or whatever

632
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,239
Speaker 1: they do, they just get out of there and it's

633
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: good for them. I start, I don't know. Do you go, well,

634
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: do the guys go to Black Friday while the women

635
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: sit home there they oh, yeah, the guys go. You're

636
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: talking to a big Black Friday shop, So explain it.

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Speaker 1: Do you enjoy that I enjoyed so much? First, you

638
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: you eat a good Thanksgiving meal, You maybe get in

639
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: a nap if possible, with all the festivities and drinks

640
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: and food, you take a little nap. You wake up

641
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: at the crack of dawn, you go, you rush to

642
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: get your stuff. And it's really good deals out there.

643
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: I don't want to sound like I'm advertising, but you

644
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: get good deals and just you know, if you happen

645
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: to trample over someone, it's like football, you're just having

646
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: Why not doing that like two weeks before? If people

647
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: really love getting up at five in the morning and

648
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: sleep and then going shopping, like, do that a couple

649
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,479
Speaker 1: of weeks before Black Friday and avoid the rod Well,

650
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: you want to hear some real poppy cock. The deals

651
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: are outrageous. You want to hear some real poppy cock.

652
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: Stores are now opening on Thursday. They're calling it Brown Thursday,

653
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Speaker 1: which is then taking all those employees out of their

654
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,239
Speaker 1: families homes on Thanksgiving. I won't stand for it. I

655
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: worked on Thanksgiving before, I've worked on the It's Giving.

656
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: We all have the last We're part of American tradition

657
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: with the NFL. Anyway, let's move on. Tangent. Don't chop

658
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: on Thursday, you're hurting America. Backup quarterback Matt Flynn through

659
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: for eighteen yards to help the Packers storm back from

660
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: a sixteen point deficit against the Vikings. The two teams

661
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: traded field goals in overtime, and we had our first

662
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: tie of the season six at lambeau Field. UM hate this.

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00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: I love symmetry. One of my favorite things about sports

664
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: is symmetry. Everything balancing out. Danna tie is the most

665
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: symmetrical thing you can get. And that's a great point,

666
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: and I and I respect you for that point. But

667
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: at the same time, I hate it if you throw

668
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: a dash one into the mix, it clouds up the

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00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: the playoff picture. It doesn't aesthetically, it doesn't look right.

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00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: I'm not happy about it. It was a big tie.

671
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: It sounds weird. You gotta if we knew this was

672
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: the result ahead of time, you would think the Packers

673
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: really blew an opportunity to get back on top of

674
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: the division. But just the fact they got this tie

675
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: with Tolzine and Flynn keeps them right in the mix

676
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: heading into the Thanksgiving game. They need to win that

677
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: one anyways. Now they're only half a game back. They're

678
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: not gonna win any tie breaks to win division, but

679
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: it's almost as good as a win. I would call

680
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: this today's most depressing storyline. The fact is Matt Flynn

681
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 1: is back in Green Bay driving the Packers to touchdown.

682
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: I don't I cannot believe that. I don't want anything

683
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: to do with Matt Flynn back on the field playing

684
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Speaker 1: for the Packers. You know what today did I did?

685
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: I think it took off? Why is it weird? Floats

686
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: around the league fit like loses starting jobs over and over,

687
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: and he's back in Green Bay in a as a

688
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: system quarterback generating yardagin point is redemption? I don't see

689
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 1: it that way. He's been paid to do nothing for

690
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,760
Speaker 1: years well, and he's got to be in a big spot.

691
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: Unless Aaron Rodgers comes back this week, their playoff hopes

692
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: is riding on Matt Flynn against the same team that

693
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 1: he broke all those records, the Detroit Lions. The yeah

694
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Speaker 1: This snapped a three game losing streak for the Packers,

695
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,479
Speaker 1: but they still haven't one in a month now, and

696
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,919
Speaker 1: you just wonder. I don't know when when Rogers comes back,

697
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: but you wonder when they look back at the end

698
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: of December and they went a whole month of that

699
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: winning and a competitive conference, you wonder if it's gonna

700
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 1: end up keeping them out. You know my takeaway from

701
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: this and everything that happened in the NFC North. We've

702
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: talked about all their games, and now that team is

703
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 1: not getting a wild card. I think it's gonna be

704
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 1: second place in the West and second place in the South.

705
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,720
Speaker 1: It's going to be Caroline and one of those West teams.

706
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 1: And one of the things some we saw some tweets

707
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: after the game some Packers players didn't know the game

708
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: could end in a tie. We're still we're still seeing this.

709
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: Why why does this pop up every time we have

710
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: a tie. It's like a guy that comes to work

711
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: wearing shorts, and then the memo again sent out and

712
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: it's like no shorts, and then everybody shocked about it.

713
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: And then like a couple of months later, again a

714
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: guy comes with shorts. Another membo. People are still shocked.

715
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: And then another guy comes to the short like, at

716
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: what point is everyone just stupid for not understanding that

717
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: you can't wear shorts like humanity. I know that where

718
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: this podcast is gonna be an hour and a half long,

719
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 1: but let me raise a question to you two, and

720
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 1: let me let me see what you think. In overtime,

721
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: Oswald acted alone. Past that. Past that, okay, go ahead.

722
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: In overtime, Mike McCarthy chooses to kick a field goal

723
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: from the two yard line. Now it's tied at that point,

724
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 1: there any thought there that you just go for the

725
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,399
Speaker 1: win from the two yard line. Yeah, you're a team

726
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: on the brink. Yeah, it's I didn't even think of that,

727
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: But that makes sense, I mean, because then then it

728
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: becomes true sudden death only that team is backed up.

729
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: If even if you fail borrowing some type of horrible turnover,

730
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: they're backed up. There's some logic there, for sure. I

731
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Speaker 1: haven't looked at advanced NFL stats or any of what

732
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 1: the stats people talking about. I would strongly suspect that

733
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: the numbers are with you going for that, because if

734
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: you don't get it, you're still pinning them. And and yes,

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00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: I think that's very interesting quote. And I also I

736
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 1: also want to say you brought the reason why maybe

737
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: you go for it there is because the Packers defense,

738
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: I know Aaron Rodgers being out as the main reason why.

739
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 1: But you know they've they've been leaky and you don't

740
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: you put the game back in their hands and they

741
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: didn't get the job done. So there you go. You

742
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 1: know Riverboat Ron would have went for it. That's all

743
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say. Uh Philip rivers through for two yards

744
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: and three touchdowns, the final one a twenty six yard

745
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: or to let me see if I got this ye Tint,

746
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 1: Come on, man, I mean he's been around. This is

747
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: like this is like his fourth time with the Jazz

748
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 1: household name seconds remaining to give the San Diego Chargers

749
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: a forty one thirty eight victory over the Kansas City

750
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 1: Chiefs on Sunday. That ends the Chargers three game losing

751
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 1: street streak. Greg are the Chargers alive? They are? Mark

752
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: picked them to be the team that emerged from this

753
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: wild card morass because they have a quarterback, and they

754
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: have a quarterback that went over three ninety yards for

755
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: the fourth time this season. That's only happened twice in

756
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: NFL history before this, Joe Montana, Dan Marino, and now

757
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers, and it just goes to sow. You never

758
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen when you dole out the assignment

759
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: and what games are gonna be great. I never expected

760
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,959
Speaker 1: this to be a forty one to thirty eight game

761
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: where nine touchdowns were scored in the last thirty two minutes.

762
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: I believe, uh, it was wild. There was a lot

763
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: of fun. I was disappointed during the season. I've been

764
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 1: disappointed periodically with where my draft pick has been for

765
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: picking games. I missed the draft entirely this week, apparently

766
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: because I just got a game assignment with no no

767
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: correspondence at all. The Jets pick was was your number

768
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: one pick? I knew I wouldn't you gotta play like

769
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 1: a fantasy draft. That would have let that line in

770
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: the weeds and went back and got it in the

771
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: second round into that would have been That would have

772
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: been an interesting strategy. Two important things. The Chiefs obviously

773
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: now lost two games in a row. Also, they lost

774
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 1: their top pass rusher Tom about Haali and Justin Houston

775
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: to injuries. Um so and now that the Broncos coming

776
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: into their house, so you know Chiefs. Mark you called

777
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: it actually on Friday, you said that a three game

778
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 1: losing streak could be staring at the Chiefs and that

779
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 1: could happen here to two quickly things. Greg made a

780
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: good point that even before these two premier pass rushers

781
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 1: were going, Kansas City has not been getting to the

782
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: quarterback the same way they were earlier in the year

783
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 1: for a month for a while, right, And I looked

784
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: at the first takeaway I had when I looked at

785
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: the score was like, wait, Kansas City put up thirty

786
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: eight points. Alex Smith had his best game of the year.

787
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: He was protected really well. It's kind of a matchup

788
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 1: of weaknesses. Could the Chargers defense stop anyone? They got

789
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: no pass rush on him. They kept picking up third intens.

790
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: He made a lot of good throws. He put them

791
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:50,959
Speaker 1: in the lead with a touchdown with only a minute

792
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: and after go. It looked like it was gonna be

793
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: kind of Alex Smith's big moment, and I thought, wow,

794
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,439
Speaker 1: this is great. The offense actually carries them for one

795
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: game after the defense just collapse. But they couldn't hold

796
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers back. Keenan Allen and lard Darius Green are

797
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,720
Speaker 1: just an unbelievable one to punch right now at wide

798
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 1: receiver and tight end, Green has to be the fastest

799
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: tight end in the league. I mean, he is the

800
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 1: fastest guy in that team with the ball. You now

801
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: have him and Gates, and Matthews is playing while he

802
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: went out with a hamstring and Alan. They got a

803
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 1: lot going on. Their schedule is really rough. But let's

804
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: go back to Kansas. This was supposed to be one

805
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: of their toughest games and they just want it. Do

806
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: you think that Kansas City can generate a win against

807
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: the Broncos next week? No way. I wouldn't have said

808
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: they had much of a chance even with Houston and

809
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: Ali and and those two injuries looked serious. We don't

810
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: know about their availability. Carson Palmer threw two touchdown passes

811
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: to Lara Fitzgerald. Carlos Dansby returned to an interception two

812
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: yards for a score in the Arizona Cardinals when their

813
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: fourth or row with a forty eleven victory over the

814
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts on Sunday, the around the league team picked

815
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 1: the Cardinals across the board. We were a little surprised

816
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:07,280
Speaker 1: that happened, but apparently we were onto something a total blowout.

817
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 1: Mark you watch that game very closely, tell me what

818
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: you saw. You know, this was the kind of game

819
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: from You've got two teams that are right in the

820
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: middle of that playoff group in each conference. Who's gonna

821
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 1: show up and say we really are the better of

822
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: the two? Arizona just stamped them. This was over so quickly,

823
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: and you know, the Colts have been outscored nine, three

824
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: to nine in the first half over the last four games.

825
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: I don't know what the deal is. I don't know

826
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 1: if it's coaching. I don't know if it's an inability

827
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 1: to just make plays earlier? Obviously, is that to some

828
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: degree they were so roughed up and so outplayed. I

829
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 1: see a team in Indianapolis that wants to get this

830
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: ground game going and start to set the tempo with that,

831
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: but they don't have the people to do it. They

832
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: can't get it done, and Andrew Luck can't rescue them

833
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: out of every twenty one and nothing hole. They were

834
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: down twenty to three at the halftime. One is is

835
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 1: he a reason why they're falling into these holes? Did

836
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 1: he play well today? I don't think that that Andrew

837
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: Luck is at all the issue. He is by far

838
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: their best player. But honestly, it was just you talk,

839
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 1: get thrown weight out. What do you get Whatever your

840
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: game plan was, they were thrown out of it so far.

841
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: And props to Carson Palmer, fourth straight good game. Honestly,

842
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: where I thought this is the reason that the Cardinals

843
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: are a seven and nine team. He's actually played well

844
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: and you put him. You know, They've got a couple

845
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: of weapons on that team. It's not just Larry Fitzgerald anymore.

846
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: And they really they're kind of jelling because their defense

847
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: is interesting. The defense is a web outstanding and defense

848
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: score points today and you know, I just I look

849
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: at this and they're one of the best home teams

850
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 1: in the league. They've proven it now they have They've

851
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: got the Niners on the ropes because they got a

852
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,399
Speaker 1: half game lead. The Niners can tie up tomorrow night.

853
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 1: You know, who would have who would have thought this

854
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: is where we would be with the Cardinals of this vision.

855
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: It should call you, Mark Saucy. You think the Niners

856
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: are on the ropes and the NFC, well, I mean

857
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 1: they technically are. They they have to win to keep

858
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,240
Speaker 1: pace with the Cardinals, and then the Panthers have changed everything.

859
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 1: Let's take a look at the rest of the Cardinal schedules.

860
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: I am interested this. This was a legit win. They

861
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: had a couple easy wins after they're by They're now

862
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 1: seven or four. They have at Eagles home to Rams,

863
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: at Titans at Seahawks home to Niners. So it tightens

864
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: up a little bit in the back end. There. Last thing,

865
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 1: I honestly think that Bruce arians should be a back

866
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: to back coach of the Year. That would be awesome

867
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: two different organizations. I'm like, we talked about that before

868
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: the season. It's his chance to make history. Not just

869
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: a man in his sixties wearing kangles, but a man

870
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: that could win Coach of the Year for two different teams.

871
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: Just him and Samuel L. Jackson the only sixties something

872
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 1: dudes wearing kangles. By the way, Greg the statement committee

873
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: gathered on that game, Yes, they ruled the Cardinals delivered

874
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: a high level statement, statement win statement, What is the statement?

875
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: We good? Uh? Moving on, Ryan Fitzpatrick through a ten

876
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 1: yard touchdown pass to Kendall Wright with ten seconds remaining

877
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: to capy mistake, freak performance that put the Tennessee Titans

878
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: back in playoff contention with a nineteen win over the

879
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: Oakland Raiders on Sunday. Um, this was a game that

880
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: was very tough. I I picked the Raiders this week.

881
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: I thought they had this one. I thought Wes' is

882
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 1: the Softball Pants was gonna there was gonna be some

883
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 1: serious danger on the softball pants front. But as it

884
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 1: turns out, Ryan Fitzpatrick a little fits magic, playing the

885
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: way he did in Buffalo before he got that big

886
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: contract extension. And um, I will say this fellas I

887
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: I wrote last a couple of weeks ago that I

888
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: thought the only thing that could keep the Titans in

889
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 1: the mix here was Fitzpatrick getting on one of those roles.

890
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: He's Roland you know, by the way, I know this

891
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: is Gregg's game, is a Greg's game. I want to

892
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get in your way. Listen. We forked

893
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: the Titans. Yeah, I'm fine, Okay, I'm just one of

894
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: these teams that were Last year Steve forked the Redskins,

895
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: and Greg had to contribute, as he's told us many times,

896
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: money to a charity because of that. Now he has

897
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: promised that if the Titans get to the playoffs, he

898
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: will drop a five hundred dollar bill on the Rocky

899
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 1: Top Foundation for Children and Tots. That is not a

900
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,919
Speaker 1: real charity, Rocky Top Foundation for Children and Tots. I'm

901
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 1: sure it is Children are Taughts. No, listen, I'm not

902
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 1: sure they named it as succinctly as they could, but

903
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 1: that's where the money is going. He would think that

904
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: they would put some time into like naming their charity

905
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: and not having obvious flubs in the text. What's the

906
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: real tragedy in this game? Though? Let's be honest, the

907
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: softball pants look a little safer today they would have.

908
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: This would have put the Raiders on the doorstep. Chris

909
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: Wesleyan has volunteered to eat his softball pants if they

910
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: get to six wins. There at four. This would have

911
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: put him at five. Their schedule gets a little tougher

912
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: and they you know, it would have been a big

913
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: national story every week, everyone wondering are they going to

914
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: get to the sixth win? Now it's gonna be a

915
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: little tougher. They're gonna have to pull off some upsets.

916
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: I still think they have a chance. I think they'll

917
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: get to that fifth win, but it's gonna be tough

918
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: to get to six now, a couple of notes from

919
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: that game. UM, Matt mcloyan, he played very well, made

920
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,240
Speaker 1: a great twenty seven yard touchdown pass to Marcel Reese

921
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: that was six ten to play. That looked like I

922
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: had a chance to stand up. It didn't, but he

923
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,439
Speaker 1: played well. And then Dennis Allen after the game said

924
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 1: that he earned another start. So Matt mcloyan is number

925
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: one on that depth chart. UH. And from the Tennessee side, UH,

926
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,399
Speaker 1: Kenny bridd is lost in the Abyss. Another couple of jobs,

927
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: but justin Hunter and Kendall Wright, that has the potential

928
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: to be a really good one two punch. I don't

929
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 1: know where West had uh Tennessee on his rankings of

930
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: wide receivers are probably it's probably premature to have them

931
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 1: involved in that list, but those guys have a lot

932
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: of potential, both under over a hundred yards and Hunter

933
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: was particularly impressive. He put the clown suit on two

934
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: Oakland defenders on his fifty four yard touchdown. So you know,

935
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: some reasons to be excited in Tennessee. Yeah, that makes

936
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 1: it even more humiliating. The Titan season comes down and

937
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: this week they want to make a sweat about forking

938
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 1: them win in Indianapolis, they have a shot. Then they're

939
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 1: in the a f C South Mix once again. If

940
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: they win that game, that's basically their season on the

941
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 1: line next week. Alright, Tony Romo through two touchdown passes

942
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: and let a drive that's set up Dan Bailey's thirty

943
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: five yard field goal on the final play of the game.

944
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: As the Cowboys defeated the Giants four to twenty one

945
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 1: on Sunday at the meadow Lands. The Giants winning streak,

946
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,479
Speaker 1: which wasn't all that impressive to start with, is over

947
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 1: at four games, and uh so too is the Giants

948
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: season most likely, right, Greg? Yeah, I think so. I

949
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 1: thought it's been over this whole time. I'm happy to

950
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: get rid of them. This was a game the Cowboys

951
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 1: were ripe for the picking. They gave up two hundred

952
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: yards rushing. Cowboys stink. Let's Cowboys control their destiny at

953
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: this point. Yeah, they're They're six and five, so are

954
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: the Eagles. But all the Cowboys have to do is

955
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 1: beat the Redskins when they play later, and they'll have

956
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: every tie break possible. So the week seventeen matchup with

957
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: the Eagles, Cowboys, Eagles, they looks like that will be

958
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: for the NFC East title, but you never know. If

959
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 1: the Cowboys had a one game lead going into it,

960
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: it's already over. That said, don't they just feel like

961
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 1: a team that it's hard to take them? Seriously? I

962
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 1: think the Giants lost this game more than the Cowboys

963
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: won it. The Giants were inside the ten a couple

964
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: of times, settled for field goals, they got stopped on

965
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 1: the fourth down. There was a ton of bad penalties

966
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: against the stupid penalties, but give Tony Romo a lot

967
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: of credit game winning drives, and two of the last

968
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:30,240
Speaker 1: three games, uh Dez Bryant made huge catches on third

969
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: down when push games to shove. Those two guys basically

970
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 1: saved the day. Save the defense, who is kind of

971
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: falling apart. At the end, Tony Romo successfully runs a

972
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: four minute drill to win the game. Uh. Perhaps not surprisingly,

973
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: Twitter goes falls absolutely silent. Social media, including our social

974
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: media director pulling hard for a Romo uh to falter

975
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: because let's face it, that drives traffic, that drives a chatter.

976
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: It's a big part of the NFL experiences. Tony Romo

977
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 1: failing and embarrassing himself. It didn't happen here. So all

978
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: the Romo haters, tough day, Romo defenders, congratulations. I'm just

979
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,959
Speaker 1: happy we can stop talking, stop pretending and trying to

980
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 1: convince ourselves that these are the same old giants and

981
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 1: watch out that dangerous and they have not put together

982
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: sixty minutes all season that have particularly impressed us. The

983
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 1: Four Committee will obviously be gathering very busy, big a

984
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: lot of We're gonna have to have an extra big

985
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 1: spread of bagels and muffins and orange juice because we've

986
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: got to discuss a lot of things, and the giants

987
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: are obviously going to be coming up. Get some locks

988
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,800
Speaker 1: at our culture going. That does it for us Sunday schedule.

989
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 1: We will be back later this week our Thanksgiving special,

990
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: so I'll be ready for that. When is that going

991
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: to be We don't know, but it will be at

992
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: some point during this week the Thanksgiving Special. Um Mark

993
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: will definitely be involved. Wes will be involved, maybe via

994
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: via phone call if if he survives tonight. We don't

995
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: know how that's gonna let's not over anticipate that, yeah exactly,

996
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: but until them, this is Dan Hanson signing off for

997
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 1: the Sizzler. The Boss k rich behind the glass and

998
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: lyle the answer until then.