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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. I'm Joe

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Speaker 1: and I'm Serena, and we are here.

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Speaker 2: With the Mirror Ball champions themselves, Joey and Jenna.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour.

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Speaker 3: How are you good?

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having us, Thanks for coming on. How's Jenna?

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Speaker 2: My old partner, my old dancing partner. She she flipped

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Speaker 2: on me. She went for the the more relevant, more handsome,

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Speaker 2: more popular.

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Speaker 1: Joe not happy about it.

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Speaker 4: I would have to jokes from the Bachelor nation like

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Speaker 4: what are the freaking odds?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: And honestly, also, the two of you made it the

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Speaker 4: furthest on the show, so you should be so proud

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Speaker 4: of yourselves.

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Speaker 1: Very similar, very similar styles of dance.

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Speaker 5: Joey and I both just riddled with natural ability.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's let's pick up at the beginning. Joey, you,

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Speaker 2: I remember we saw you at the movie premiere in

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Speaker 2: New York and you were debating if you wanted to

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Speaker 2: even go on the show.

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Speaker 1: So what changed your mind? You did?

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Speaker 3: Joe?

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Speaker 6: Really, honestly, it was it was talking to you and

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Speaker 6: talking to Charity and Dot about the experience because they

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Speaker 6: were just on it before. But that was helpful to

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Speaker 6: kind of talk to people that had been through it,

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Speaker 6: and you honestly did say I was worried about how

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Speaker 6: it was going to be and if I was going

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Speaker 6: to even be able to perform and enjoy it, and like,

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Speaker 6: I was worried about putting myself out there, and you

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Speaker 6: gave me confidence. You're like, I sucked and it was

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Speaker 6: still so much fun. So that made me feel like

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Speaker 6: I should do it regardless of what was going to happen.

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Speaker 6: So he gave me all the confidence in the world

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Speaker 6: that it was a good idea, even if I was

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Speaker 6: going to be very very bad at it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I wasn't very good, but I tried really hard, right, Jenna.

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Speaker 4: Yes, no, I think we can attest almost every interview

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Speaker 4: that we did. Our season was one of my favorite

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Speaker 4: seasons because, first of all, obviously your dance, but your

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Speaker 4: dance experience wasn't the best, but we had so much

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know how you feel, but I

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Speaker 4: had so much fun every day and rehearsal with you

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Speaker 4: because you were just down. We laughed so hard, and

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Speaker 4: I feel like because there were no expectations really for

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Speaker 4: like dance wise, we were just like, let's just go

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Speaker 4: do it. Let's just freaking go for form.

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Speaker 2: Well, we gossiped every but we gossiped for the first

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Speaker 2: thirty minutes and drank coffee.

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Speaker 4: Every single time. It was one of most of the seasons.

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Speaker 4: You were just so enjoyable to be around. And yeah

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Speaker 4: it was.

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Speaker 3: It was great.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So that's actually that that leads me into my

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Speaker 2: next talking point. I thought you would be thrilled to

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Speaker 2: get another Bachelor, but there's articles out there saying that

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Speaker 2: you wanted somebody from the NFL.

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Speaker 6: She was disappointed, Joe. She wow, stand another Joe from

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Speaker 6: the Bachelor. She was very very upset about it. You

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Speaker 6: know what.

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Speaker 4: This went around and I was so upset because everybody

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Speaker 4: took my words so out of context what I was

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Speaker 4: saying time.

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Speaker 2: And I actually believe you because when I heard it,

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Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, it doesn't really sound like Jenna.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Joe. Well, here's the thing. Before

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Speaker 4: the season had started, when I first got picked up,

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Speaker 4: and before anybody had been announced on the cast, this

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Speaker 4: was before I knew I was with Joey or that

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Speaker 4: he was even on the cast. For years, I have

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Speaker 4: been talking to the casting director about being with a

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Speaker 4: football player. I've never had a football player. I've always

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Speaker 4: wanted to partner with them because again, they're athletic, they

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Speaker 4: are totally down to be coached and yelled at. They

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Speaker 4: usually do pretty well. So I was like, you know what,

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Speaker 4: maybe this will be my season to get a football guy.

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Speaker 4: And then I had heard rumblings that there was an

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Speaker 4: NFL player casted on the show. I didn't know it

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Speaker 4: was Stanny. I didn't know Joey was on yet, and

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Speaker 4: so that's why I said, you know, I was like, oh,

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Speaker 4: disappointed that I didn't get the footballer because I'd found

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Speaker 4: out that he was with Whitney. She had her first

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Speaker 4: meet before I did.

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Speaker 5: So they're not like all on the same day at

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Speaker 3: We're actually pretty late. I think we're one of the

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Speaker 5: The same day or is it spread out across a

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Speaker 4: It's it's spread out across a couple of days. It's

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Speaker 4: okay schedule when they moved there.

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Speaker 5: So like if Whitney's on day one, you're like, there's

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Speaker 5: the footballer. That's my chance. It's gone, and now you

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Speaker 5: have to wait like three days to find out who you.

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Speaker 3: Got exactly she got stuck, and.

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Speaker 4: Why did I get the football guy this time? And

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Speaker 4: that was again before I met him, And then when

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Speaker 4: I met him, I was like, Okay, this is gonna

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Speaker 4: be awesome, super super stoked.

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Speaker 1: She's like.

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Speaker 6: Saying it like I almost believe it, but it's just

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Speaker 6: it's fine. We've gotten through it.

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Speaker 3: I got your mirror ball, so we're happy now.

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Speaker 5: Exactly is there a sport like n B A, NFL

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Speaker 5: whatever that is, like the players are known to be

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Speaker 4: Dance football players football.

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Speaker 5: Players just because of like footwork and rhythm.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're they're agile, they are they're comfortable and familiar

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Speaker 4: with like a rehearsal schedule where it's really physical. It's

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Speaker 4: a lot of hours, so they're like down to that experience.

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Speaker 4: And then also they're usually pretty big and strong, so

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Speaker 4: they can lift the girl all over the place. So

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Speaker 4: I think they tend to do pretty well.

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Speaker 1: Jenna, remember what I almost snapped your neck? Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: almost I almost killed you. I swear my life. She

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Speaker 1: almost died.

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Speaker 5: It was why she wants a football player. She's like,

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Speaker 5: they would never do that to me.

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Speaker 4: Joe that was your best dance, and it was the

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Speaker 4: ending move we had like one lift. It was the

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Speaker 4: ending move. He put his arm in the wrong spot.

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Speaker 4: I was going to do a backlip. I don't know

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Speaker 2: She went like it was like it was like it

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Speaker 2: was the only thing that I couldn't like. It was

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Speaker 2: the only position I couldn't lift her in. Was the

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Speaker 2: was like, just don't do this, and it was it

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Speaker 2: was what I did.

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Speaker 1: I did.

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Speaker 4: I didn't stop my neck.

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Speaker 2: Jenna would walk off stage when we would get done dancing,

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Speaker 2: and she'd look at me and she'd go what happened?

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Speaker 1: And I would look at her and say, well.

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Speaker 5: Because would that be something that you would just like,

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Speaker 5: not a rehearsal, And then you'd get on stage and

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Speaker 5: you just freak out.

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Speaker 2: I would just black out every time. But okay, we

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Speaker 2: can't talk about me. Let's talk about We're gonna get

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Speaker 2: to when you guys first met. But Jenna, I do

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Speaker 2: want to ask you this question. The shows a popular show, right,

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Speaker 2: it's on ABC. Everybody everybody that lives in the United

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Speaker 2: States at least knows what Dancing with the Stars is.

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Speaker 2: But what do you think it is about this season?

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Speaker 2: Because it's been all over, like all over TikTok all

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Speaker 2: over and not saying that it's usually not, but I

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Speaker 2: feel like this season has been like the biggest in

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Speaker 5: Do you agree, at least on social media?

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Speaker 1: Do you agree? And why?

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Speaker 4: Yes? I I Well, I think it's facts. We got

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Speaker 4: numbers back that it was like seventy percent higher our viewers,

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Speaker 4: and that's insane because no one's watching live TV anymore, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think this was such a perfect storm of the cast.

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Speaker 4: First of all, we had two Olympians hot off of

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Speaker 4: the Olympics who were like megastars of the Olympics. We

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Speaker 4: had somebody like Joey who was so loved by Bachelor Nation,

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Speaker 4: and I think that was like the perfect momentum going

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Speaker 4: into the season. And then I think just in general,

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Speaker 4: the celebrities were so likable and so active on social media,

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Speaker 4: and I think that's when this younger demographic of like

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Speaker 4: TikTok got involved, where every week a lift or a

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Speaker 4: dance was going viral and then everyone was trying to

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Speaker 4: do it more people were tuning in. It was nuts.

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Speaker 4: Like I've been on the show for a while for

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Speaker 4: ten years, and I've never felt the magnitude that it

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Speaker 4: was the season. It was crazy, but so exciting, Like

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Speaker 4: it's just really exciting that everybody's talking about it, and

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Speaker 4: not just like grandma's and moms, but like dads and

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Speaker 4: younger kids and people are tuning in, which it's really

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Speaker 4: really awesome.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hopefully you get like you get a younger audience

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Speaker 2: on the tour. I mean sometimes sometimes those meet and

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Speaker 2: greets sometimes there, Joe Well right now, no, I'm not

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Speaker 2: isolating anybody, but you will have you will have some very.

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Speaker 1: Aggressive older women.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Joey, you're you at this. I mean you are

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Speaker 2: probably I would say, in a lot, you know, in

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Speaker 2: a long time, for a while, the most loved bachelor

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Speaker 2: we've had.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I lead.

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Speaker 5: Maybe for sure, that's just a fast season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Maybe. Ever, what what do you think it is?

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Speaker 3: I've I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I think I've gotten very lucky, and even

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Speaker 6: here that always just is like I just deflected every

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Speaker 6: single time. I think Jenni started about a million times

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Speaker 6: we deflect that of people saying.

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Speaker 3: I'm a love bachelor. I don't know how all this happened.

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Speaker 6: I still think back in how crazy this year was,

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Speaker 6: and I know it's kind of a usual progression where

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Speaker 6: if you do well on The Bachelor, they do ask

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Speaker 6: you to Dance with the Stars. But like we talked

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Speaker 6: about before, I didn't even know if I wanted to

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Speaker 6: do it because I was excited to get back to

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Speaker 6: figure out what I want to do with my life.

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Speaker 3: But it just was one of those opportunities that was

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Speaker 3: so hard to say no to.

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Speaker 6: And now then I've done it, it was the best

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Speaker 6: decision I could have made because it just has given

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Speaker 6: me a full other way to express myself of Joey

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Speaker 6: outside of The Bachelor too, And I don't know, just

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Speaker 6: this show has been amazing, and in this year in general,

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Speaker 6: just to see the amount of love and support I've

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Speaker 6: gotten from the Bachelor Nation fan base from now this

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Speaker 6: new fan base from Dancing with the Stars, it just

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Speaker 6: gives me a lot of confidence that had a good year.

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Speaker 3: I got very lucky. It is really all I keep saying.

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Speaker 6: But it's it's been a very very fun one.

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Speaker 5: What was the advice that Charity gave you going on

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Speaker 5: the show? Coming like off as a lead in a

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Speaker 5: serious relationship, because I know that's kind of a different

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Speaker 5: dynamic than when someone goes on and their single or

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Speaker 5: you know, we stall like Cannon Brown went on after

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Speaker 5: her season and it was just it's just different.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely talked to her a lot.

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Speaker 6: And Dot was the person I talked to most about that, actually,

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Speaker 6: because I think he was in the tougher role. As

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jenna, let's ask you about that. You know, so

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Speaker 4: But you know what, Joe I was talking with Joey

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Speaker 1: Like no, no, because I couldn't move. I couldn't move.

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Speaker 6: People were like, just just I think that has to

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Speaker 2: You were like, just help help this, help this poor man,

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Speaker 1: The truth is. The truth is Joey was the lead.

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Speaker 1: He was the Bachelor. I can't I my, I would say, like.

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Speaker 5: My, and youged you you weren't engaged.

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Speaker 2: No, But my reputation from the Bachelor was more like lovable,

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Speaker 5: My god, don't say that about yourself.

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Speaker 2: But that's kind of that was kind of it, because

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Speaker 1: But but that's kind of why. That's what I think

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Speaker 2: But like for you guys, yeah, there's so many rumors

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Speaker 1: How do you handle all that?

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Speaker 4: Again, I've been on the show for a while, so

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Speaker 4: it's nothing that I'm not used to. It usually happens

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Speaker 5: It was crazy and you're probably thinking, like if they're

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Speaker 5: Wait till his hand touches my waist, like people are

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Speaker 4: Out again, I think also and Joe, I'm sure you

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Speaker 4: we're creating beautiful, gorgeous shapes. This is technique. This is

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Speaker 4: like what ballroom entails to like have these moments or

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Speaker 5: Well, Joey, didn't, did I see something that said you

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Speaker 3: Well, I did that for a lot of reasons.

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Speaker 6: I did that to give Kelsey confidence because, as she said,

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Speaker 6: So that was in my mind of like, that's just

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I didn't.

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Speaker 6: Expect it, but you know, we did what we could

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Speaker 3: At the end of the day.

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Speaker 2: I also think, I mean it is difficult though for

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Speaker 2: you know, sometimes it's like whoa this is?

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Speaker 1: You're not making what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: I would say, the okay, So I would say I

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Speaker 3: It was initially is you just it's not something you

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Speaker 5: It's like typically with a colleague, you're not breaking that

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I was making in the beginning.

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Speaker 5: I wasn't following, but yeah, you're making sense. I understand.

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Speaker 4: It's like acting or something like when you do those scenes,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so what was the first meeting? Like, then with

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Speaker 4: Okay, hey, Joey came in. He was so nervous, so

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Speaker 3: Like I was in basketball shorts, shorts. I was just

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Speaker 6: No one told me that I was just going on

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Speaker 3: I was just I was in my Lulu Lemon shirt

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Speaker 6: And I was just about to I thought we were

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Speaker 5: Like I'm ready to slay.

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Speaker 3: Let's ballroom shoes with shorts, And yeah, I was very

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Speaker 4: Yeah he was really really nervous, but he was just

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Speaker 6: Like, oh my, I was petrified because I got there

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Speaker 6: coaching me, and I would not have been able to

443
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Speaker 6: do that unless she was there.

444
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Speaker 3: So then it was great. It was great.

445
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Speaker 6: I was like literally milliar rocking and just dancing to

446
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Speaker 6: myself full time. But it was necessary to have her

447
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Speaker 6: in it, and it definitely made that day.

448
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Speaker 3: A lot more fun.

449
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Speaker 5: Do you feel like playing tennis helped you at least

450
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Speaker 5: with like coordination and I mean you're an instructor yourself,

451
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Speaker 5: like the ability to take instruction.

452
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

453
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Speaker 6: I think that we said from the beginning that the

454
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Speaker 6: tennis side, the footwork was probably nice to be able

455
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Speaker 6: to be a little light on my feet. But the

456
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Speaker 6: biggest thing was being a coach really helps you be

457
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Speaker 6: a decent student.

458
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Speaker 3: So I really I think that was my fault.

459
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Speaker 6: Talked too much about all this stuff, but like I

460
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Speaker 6: was using metaphors, I was trying always to ask her

461
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Speaker 6: questions about like why is this the case? And I

462
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,639
Speaker 6: really tried to understand everything so that when she was

463
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Speaker 6: explaining stuff, I really grasped it. And I think I

464
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Speaker 6: annoyed her initially, but then she realized it was going

465
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Speaker 6: to be a big difference.

466
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Speaker 3: From it too.

467
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Speaker 4: I think that is the reason why he was so

468
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Speaker 4: successful on this s is because he understood what he

469
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Speaker 4: needed to ask or what he should be feeling. And

470
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Speaker 4: I feel like as a coach to you kind of

471
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Speaker 4: have to lose your ego when you're a student of

472
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Speaker 4: knowing that this person giving you critiques. They're not doing

473
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Speaker 4: it for personal reasons. This is just to help you

474
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Speaker 4: get better. So yeah, he did ask a lot of questions.

475
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Speaker 4: But I loved seeing his mind work and be like, Okay,

476
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Speaker 4: this is why I need to do this so she

477
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 4: can feel this. Like it was. It was really awesome

478
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Speaker 4: to see him so invested in that.

479
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Speaker 2: Okay, but on that initial on that initial meet, right

480
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Speaker 2: when when Joey first walks in the door, Jenna, you

481
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Speaker 2: definitely are are are sizing up his ability like in

482
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Speaker 2: the in the in the in that first five minutes.

483
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we're on a scale of one through ten. Right,

484
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Speaker 2: where did you put him compare to like somebody like Neve, Like,

485
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Speaker 2: where was Joey on that scale?

486
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Speaker 4: Honestly, to start, they were very similar. Okay, Neve had

487
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 4: more dance experience. He wasn't a dancer at all, but

488
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,640
Speaker 4: he was like really invested in the dance community, so

489
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 4: he was able to pick up shapes really well. And

490
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Speaker 4: I would say that our first meets were very similar.

491
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Speaker 4: Like he is not a dancer naturally, but he could

492
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Speaker 4: pick up and he has natural rhythm, which is game changing.

493
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 4: He understands music, musicality, rhythms, and that helps so much

494
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Speaker 4: when you have somebody like that two hours to do

495
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Speaker 4: three cls in moves.

496
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Speaker 6: At one point I forget what it was, but it

497
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,880
Speaker 6: was been like the first two practices and she did

498
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Speaker 6: dog you want she I did some steps.

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Speaker 3: She's like that took Joe to week six to get

500
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Speaker 3: that step. Awesome, I mean a little better than that guy.

501
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Speaker 3: That's good.

502
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Speaker 2: It was it was like week four Jenna walked into practice.

503
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Speaker 2: She goes, I know what it is. I just can

504
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Speaker 2: never let you go.

505
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Speaker 1: I have to have full of I got to keep

506
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Speaker 1: hold of you the whole time because whenever I.

507
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Speaker 2: Was off whatever, running wild, whatever, I was free on

508
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Speaker 2: the dance.

509
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Speaker 5: It was just like, yeah, it's just not safe for anyone.

510
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Speaker 2: But on that promo day, was that the first time

511
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 2: you guys meet all the competition.

512
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Speaker 3: You like slowly started to meet some of the people.

513
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Speaker 6: They tried to keep it under wraps, but like I

514
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,439
Speaker 6: met Danny when I got to the hotel because we

515
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 6: were staying at the same spot and then I saw

516
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Speaker 6: I think Phage and a few other people were shooting

517
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Speaker 6: at the same time we were, So you just start

518
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Speaker 6: to find people in passing.

519
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Speaker 3: But yeah, then you just you end up figuring out

520
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Speaker 3: who it is and a pretty sure amount of time.

521
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Speaker 5: Are the two of you like sizing other people up? Like,

522
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Speaker 5: are you like okay, like they're probably gonna be good, like.

523
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Speaker 1: Even if they even if they say no. The answers Yes,

524
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Speaker 1: it's a.

525
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Speaker 5: Competition, you know what I mean. You want to like

526
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Speaker 5: speculate on how things are going to play out.

527
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Speaker 4: You're getting snippets. You're like seeing people in the promo

528
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 4: shoot as well, so like that one, Oh, she has

529
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Speaker 4: really nice arms, or she looks like she has some

530
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 4: dance moves, So you're definitely sizing it up. But I

531
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Speaker 4: wouldn't say until the first episode or the first show

532
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Speaker 4: you really get a glimpse of how everyone's going to do,

533
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 4: because that they have to show up live and that's

534
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 4: when they have to like be on camera and deal

535
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 4: with an audience and how all of that affects them.

536
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Speaker 4: So I feel like the first episode is really telling

537
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Speaker 4: of how everyone's journeys are going to go.

538
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Speaker 3: I mean, that was important.

539
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Speaker 6: We talked about that a lot, she said, she said,

540
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Speaker 6: I don't even know how you're going to be until

541
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Speaker 6: we get out there on that premiere day.

542
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Speaker 3: Like you could be confident.

543
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Speaker 6: We could feel great about this dance, but until you

544
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 6: get in front of the We were first too, so

545
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:45,679
Speaker 6: until you get in front of the flights and you

546
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 6: hear those clicks, like, you have no idea if you're

547
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Speaker 6: going to even be a contender until that moment right then,

548
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 6: and that was that was scary.

549
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Speaker 5: We had Jen on at the end of her season

550
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 5: and this was like, right, I think right as she

551
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 5: was finding out she was on Dance with the Stars

552
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 5: are right before around that time, and Joe was telling

553
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 5: her like, the three clicks are the scariest moment of

554
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 5: your life. He's like, you could feel amazing, but he

555
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 5: was like, just you wait until you hear the three

556
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 5: clicks and it's just dead silent.

557
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's that should be. That's like for anybody that's

558
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 4: been on the show, that severe PTSD.

559
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 3: For sure.

560
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Speaker 5: So then Joey, how do you feel as someone who

561
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 5: comes on with zero dance experience about someone like Chandler

562
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Speaker 5: who comes on with a lot of dance experience, Like,

563
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Speaker 5: is it hard feeling like you're comparing yourself to each other?

564
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Speaker 5: How do you how does that even work in a

565
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 5: competition setting where like everyone's abilities on night one are

566
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Speaker 5: so different it's unfair.

567
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Speaker 6: Well, I remember, I remember, I remember when we started

568
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Speaker 6: and you start doing show and tells and you start

569
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Speaker 6: talking to the other couples and the other pros, and

570
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Speaker 6: I just remember all the pros were like lown away

571
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 6: from Chandler right from the get though, and said, how like, no, like,

572
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 6: not only is she have dance experience, she might be

573
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 6: one of the best that's ever been on the show.

574
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 3: From the beginning of how like strong she was, she.

575
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 5: Should just grow up a dancer, Like did she?

576
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Speaker 6: She took a long break from it, but she was

577
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Speaker 6: I think she did some professional trained dancing at a

578
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 6: young age. I think she went to like a school

579
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:21,959
Speaker 6: and she was like very much in it and then

580
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 6: took a long break from it. But the biggest difference

581
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 6: with Chandler that was so intimidating was she wasn't just

582
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 6: a great dancer. She could perform, like she could actually

583
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 6: emote in her face and like that's hard to do

584
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 6: because you can be a really great dancer, but you

585
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 6: don't know how to like really.

586
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: Just get the smile.

587
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 3: That's hard while and she.

588
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 6: Was amazing at that right away, and we were like, oh, like,

589
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 6: we are not going to contend with that was kind

590
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 6: of the mindset.

591
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 3: Initially.

592
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 4: I never said that I do.

593
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 6: I don't, because again, everyone else was talking about it.

594
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 6: But what she said that I held on too, which

595
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,679
Speaker 6: is a big part of this whole entire show, is

596
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 6: people do want to watch your journey. And I think

597
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 6: it was so impressive that Chandler still improved throughout the

598
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 6: entire competition. You look at her first answer. At last,

599
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,199
Speaker 6: she got so much better, and that's incredible when you

600
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 6: were that good from the beginning. But I think a

601
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 6: lot of people do fall in love with the idea

602
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 6: of someone that starts with no experience and how they

603
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 6: can kind of build it up. But it was so

604
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 6: funny we laugh about it all the time in this

605
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 6: experience that people thought I was a dancer. By like

606
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 6: week five, They're like, oh, Joey has dance experience. And

607
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 6: I don't know when that that started.

608
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 4: Because expectation became a lot.

609
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 6: I was like expected to be as good as Chandler

610
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 6: every week, and I was like, this girl is actually

611
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 6: an answer, and I have no idea what I'm doing

612
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 6: out here.

613
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Speaker 3: If I didn't have her choreographing something, I would look

614
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 3: like an idiot, but you could.

615
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 6: I see Dan, I've been on the team dance with Chandler,

616
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 6: and I saw how quickly she picked stuff up, and

617
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 6: I was like, oh, we are on different playing fields here.

618
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 6: You get a lot more You're gonna put a lot

619
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Speaker 6: more energy into this runs.

620
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Speaker 5: How does that work with scoring?

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Speaker 1: Then? Well, you know what, don't answer that. Well, we'll

622
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: leave that. Let's leave that question hanging.

623
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna end the episode here, then we'll pick it

624
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Speaker 2: up so then you know, if our listeners do want

625
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 2: to hear the answer to that, you're gonna have to

626
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 2: listen to episode part two. So thank you everybody for

627
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Speaker 2: tuning in to a Bachelor happy hour. Make sure you

628
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Speaker 2: tune into part two. We're gonna we're gonna have Joey

629
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Speaker 2: and Jenna back on, and don't.

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Speaker 5: Read to subscribe. Thanks for listening.

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Speaker 1: Bye,