WEBVTT - Some Time With... Marc Warren! (Part 2) 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:20.920 He there, Fanaridos, Welcome to part two of our interview 0:00:21.079 --> 0:00:23.720 with Mark Warren. We can't wait for you to hear 0:00:23.800 --> 0:00:26.720 even more behind the scenes stories from the person who 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:30.040 produced and wrote some of your favorite episodes on Full House. 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:31.720 So let's get right into it. 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:36.199 Here's Mark, if you could go back and if there 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:37.919 is anything if you could go back though, is there 0:00:37.960 --> 0:00:42.840 anything you would change about the show or a storyline 0:00:42.840 --> 0:00:45.800 that you wish would have gotten written differently that like 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:48.280 you had an intention for and then it you know, 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:50.400 they got notes and it went sideway. 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:54.840 I think thee was disappointing. We didn't know it was 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:56.960 going to be the final episode, and there was so 0:00:57.120 --> 0:01:01.279 much turmoil around that time. Are we coming back? Are 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:03.760 we going to the w B which which was new 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:06.880 at the time. Uh, did the guys want to come back? Did? 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:11.640 There was so much so, like maybe a week before 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:13.360 they said, well, you know, this is it. We gotta 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:15.720 we got to wrap things up, and we really rushed 0:01:16.120 --> 0:01:21.880 through that. We didn't have enough time to properly give it, 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:24.800 give it up the send off that it deserved. I felt. 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:27.039 So I was always disappointed, and I mean it's an 0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:29.320 okay episode as an episode. 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:31.960 Now do you mean the last episode that we filmed 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:34.840 or the last episode that aired, because that's because the 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:36.319 last episodes that aired were the. 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:39.360 Michelle amnesia one, right, that's what I mean, which. 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:41.759 Led to the fan fiction story that all of Fuller 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:44.480 House is in that Michelle's in a coma and all 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:46.800 of Fuller House is a dream, which is why we 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:49.800 never see her in it, which I think fascinating story. 0:01:50.360 --> 0:01:53.080 That's but no, but yeah, that was the last one 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:55.040 that aired. So the last one that we wrote where 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:56.080 or the last one you wrote? 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:56.720 Yeah? 0:01:56.800 --> 0:01:59.200 Yeah, it wasn't. It was wasn't. Really there was no goodbye. 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:02.280 There was really no goodbye, and and the show deserved 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:04.600 some kind of and I don't know what we would 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:06.480 have done. We probably would have put a lot of 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:11.360 time and effort into really cracking that storyline, you know, 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:15.240 and really make interesting and inspired and fun right and 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:17.320 and giving in a great and we you know, we 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:21.000 it was just there was too much uncertainty time. 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:23.840 I mean, maybe because we didn't get to say goodbye. 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:26.480 That's why people wanted for maybe you know what I mean? 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:27.880 Have we said good bye them like an hour We're 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:28.320 done with them. 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:30.839 We left the morning bore yeah, I mean we could 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:31.399 have blown. 0:02:31.240 --> 0:02:34.720 Up horrible like that, right, Oh yeah, no, that would 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:35.800 be be terrible. 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:39.320 Imagine the whole if you really ended a show like that, 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:40.920 How harriful that would be. 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:44.880 I mean, it can't be any it will never be 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:46.640 any worse than the Sopranos. 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:50.760 So yeah, screen. 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:56.680 Yeah, gone, right, yeah, yeah, some last episode was always 0:02:56.720 --> 0:02:58.040 I think a lot of fans tell us too. 0:02:57.919 --> 0:02:59.359 They're like, it was kind of we never got to 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:00.280 say goodbye. 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:06.240 Out yeah, yeah, yeah, I wonder someone asked us recently 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:12.480 where we picture, like what happened after the Michelle amnesia storyline? 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:14.640 Like did the guys stay living in the house? Did 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:16.720 Jesse and Rebecca stay in the attic for very long? 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:19.760 Was Joey always just in the alcove or downstairs in 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:22.160 the basement? Like how long do you think the guys 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:25.120 lived in that house before they finally moved down. 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:28.440 To TV show? And I kind of moved on myself 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:30.480 after that, So I really give it. 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:33.440 You haven't been sitting there for thirty some years thinking 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:34.920 about what happened to these characters. 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:36.360 Mark, come on, where's your commitment? 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:39.400 But you would hope that the guys, you know that 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:42.840 that Jesse got moved on, had moved on, and Joey 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:45.360 got out of the basement. And the other thing was 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:48.160 the house. You know, how crazy the geography of the house, 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:51.240 how it kept changing. Yard was three acre. 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:53.960 Look. 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:57.640 I have come up with a theory that the full house, 0:03:57.680 --> 0:04:00.960 that full house, the house was actually uh some sort 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:05.000 of a portal to uh like a time traveling uh 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:10.600 and and and physics bending existence because nobody in the 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:14.680 house really over ages the house itself cannot exist in 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:18.039 the shape that it is. The backyard is. We get 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:20.960 concrete trucks in there, we get a horse up the 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:24.039 stairs there. 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:25.560 Is we do so many things in this house that 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:29.480 I am convinced that it's just it's like, uh, yeah, it's. 0:04:29.360 --> 0:04:32.599 Like some sort of weird little portal where strange things 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:33.200 are possible. 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:36.800 Yeah, so that, you know, but that was we just 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:39.280 embraced that, And that was kind of an inside joke 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:41.560 that if people are going to notice or not notice, 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:43.640 you know, right under the fun of the show. 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:48.320 So oh well, we've noticed, and we it has become 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:51.080 a never ending source of entertainment for us to go, 0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:53.640 oh my god, look how giant the backyard is. 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:55.360 Now, where did that come from? 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:57.680 There was one we recently. 0:04:58.680 --> 0:05:01.440 We recently reviewed The Honey I Broke the House where 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:04.320 Stephanie drives the car through the kitchen and we were like, yeah, 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:06.320 how did a car get back there? Why is this 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:09.960 child left unattended with a car with cargies in the. 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:14.200 Ignition was watching all We were like, yeah, this is 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:14.880 a lot going on. 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:17.960 And there was one where you where Kimny was at 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:21.839 war with the Tanners over the backyard fence. 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:22.880 The Ostriche. 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:25.120 Oh yes, the Ostrich. 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:27.039 And the. 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:32.640 Ostriche the strange who came up with the Ostriche? 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:33.440 Like you want to know? 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:38.960 But the craziness of this switch that. 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:39.520 That was seven or eight. It was at the end 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:40.520 I want to see. 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:44.520 You know, we had a really interesting writing staff because 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:47.320 when when Dennis and I took over, and I think 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:49.960 Jeff had had kind of the same philosophy that if 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:53.200 anybody came in and said, oh, a love full house, 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:56.560 you know the love of that family, you know how 0:05:56.680 --> 0:05:58.960 much they care about each other, we didn't really want them. 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:02.400 We wanted people with a lot of edge. You know, 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:06.080 they would write crazy spec scripts that you know, could 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:08.800 never get on the air because you could always dial 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:11.560 it down, you know, we had like Chuck, you know, 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:16.160 Chuck and Jamie Tatham, Yeah, to a modern family, and 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:20.679 Karlyn Omine who had been on The Simpsons for you know, yeah, 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:27.440 so we loved that sensibility. Boyd Hailey, Yeah, those those 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:30.760 guys were great. All those people were all amazing. So 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:35.320 the room was crazy. I mean, oh, I bet and 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:39.599 I heard Doug talking about it also, how uh it 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:41.920 was off the rail sometimes, you know, it was really 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:43.240 really wild. 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:47.200 But that's there's a show the writer's room of a 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:50.279 of a family TV show versus what actually makes it 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:51.560 on the It's like death to Smoochie. 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:52.760 It's very very. 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:58.640 Much yes, and but you know that you have to 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:01.960 channel that that enery and and that kind of off 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:05.279 the wall sense of humor and glimpses of it, you know, 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:08.120 come out in the show. And that's why I think 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:11.120 the show was sharp, because yes, it was a family show, 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:13.200 but if you look at a lot of the jokes 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:17.080 and a lot of the the the interactions and the 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:21.200 and the storylines, they're they're sharp and they're they're they're clever. 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:26.040 So I think that's what made it like just this 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:28.960 maybe a step above the normal family show, and why 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:31.760 it sustains I think, mm. 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:33.280 Hmm, yeah, absolutely. 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:37.120 Now pivoting sort of from your Full House years, You've 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:40.360 done a ton of other television. I mean, can we 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:43.080 just a short list of what else you have worked on? 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:47.280 The after Full House? We we're supposed to get We're 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:51.120 supposed to get a development deal at Warner Brothers. And 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:57.000 they called us in and less Moon Beast who you know, right, 0:07:57.400 --> 0:07:59.560 just the side story when there were a couple of 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:01.600 episodes to Less Moon Best said I want to put 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:05.960 my daughter in the show, Sarah, And she was like 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:07.760 a head taller than everybody else. You would put her 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:13.480 in Michelle's class. And I think it was the maybe 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:16.360 this Slicky Boy the episode of Yankee Doodle Dandy or 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:21.280 something right, yes, And she looked the wrong way into 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:23.559 the wrong camera and Moonvest was up in the booth. 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:28.200 Who the help put that kid in the show. Don't 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:32.560 you ever like kid? You know? But he tried to 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:37.840 blame everybody else. But so let's let's move this. Call 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:40.080 this in and said, I know you guys have a 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:42.679 development deal. You know, you work really harmful house. She's 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:44.480 supposed to have a year off. But there's a show 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:48.840 called the Parenthood on the WB Robert Townsend, I'm having 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:51.199 some trouble with the showrunners there and they you know, 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:54.000 tabs and can't get along with them. So we want 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:56.400 you to go in and take over the show. And 0:08:57.120 --> 0:08:59.480 we said, look, Less, you know, we appreciate it, really, 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:02.440 but we just you know, this this six year run 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:04.720 and we're really tired, and you know, we want to 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:08.320 develop for you. He said, okay, you will find your 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:11.840 desks and your chairs and everything out in the parking lot. 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:15.160 Uh and a box with all your stuff, so please 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:18.640 feel free, you know what. Less On second thought, we 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:20.040 would love to do the Parent. 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:23.760 This sounds great. Yeah, so we builded. 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:25.920 It over to to the w B to the Parent, 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:30.160 which actually turned out the great experience work with with 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:33.160 Robert Townsend and uh fais on Love and you know, 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:36.120 all the all these people. But it was an interesting 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:38.560 job because you know, we were white showrunners kind of 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:41.520 coming into a into a black show. But I think 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:45.160 because Dennis and I had both been teachers in urban 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:48.600 areas and I don't know that which was it was 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:53.080 just helpful in terms of including people and accepting people 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:58.720 and hearing their voice and kind of understanding what what 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:01.800 our role was and not trying to impose anything. And 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:03.960 we had a terrific year on The Parenthood. We won 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:06.679 awards and we did work that I'm really proud of. 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:10.160 So then they gave us. They said, well, you did 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:11.839 such a good job on that, now we're going to 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:15.000 reward you. You can do whatever show you want. WB said, 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:19.600 which happens never in a career, you know, maybe five people. 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:22.960 And so we're like, well, we were ex teachers. We 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:26.160 want to do a show about the next great you know. 0:10:26.280 --> 0:10:30.800 So we created the show called Nick Licensed Teacher for 0:10:30.880 --> 0:10:34.280 the WB. So we did that. We hired this guy 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:37.760 named Mitch Mlaney to be the teacher, and we did 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:40.319 our dream show about being a teacher. Except they hated it. 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:43.679 They hated everything about it. And we were trying to 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:45.640 run two shows at the same We were running The 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:49.960 Parenthood the second season and running this new show, and 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:52.160 they were on back to back when stages right next 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:55.040 to each other at Too Sounds stages, and you know, 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:57.520 I was we were going out of our minds and 0:10:57.559 --> 0:11:03.640 they hated, hated everything about it. They hated Sorry I 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:10.760 lost you that happened. Oh yeah, so I can't. That 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:14.360 was the lowest rated show on television and it got canceled. 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:16.240 It ran two seasons. We had two full seasons out 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:16.560 of it. 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:25.600 So back in the day when you could get two 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:27.720 full seasons of a show that wasn't doing great. 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:33.000 Ye like number eight. You know, it was like three 0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:37.760 million people watching, but you know, in those days. So 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:40.120 then we left Warner Brothers after and you know, we 0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:42.680 had a great run. We did three years, like eleven 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:47.600 year run there, and then we got a call from 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:51.559 Disney Channel saying we have the show called Even Stevens 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:55.880 and a similar situation. They can't crack at the show. 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:59.880 We've shot six episodes. Showrunners don't really know, you know 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:03.720 that they haven't really found it. And we said, okay, 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:06.760 if you give us, give us eight weeks, let us 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:11.080 fire our own staff. And because we loved the two kids. 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:16.960 We love Shia and Christy Ramano. Yeah Christy, but yeah, 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:21.200 she's terrific and we love that their dynamic, but they 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:23.640 kind of missed it in the show. And so we 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:27.480 took over that show and we did three full seasons 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:31.200 of that show, which was amazing. It was single camera show. 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:35.200 They let it just do basically whatever we wanted. Shi 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:37.960 was amazing, Christy was amazing, we got to direct, we 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:41.199 got to very little interference from Disney. 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:43.120 Amazing, very proud of that. 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:47.200 It's a really fun show and people still still love it. 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:48.680 Oh yeah, people loved Even Stevens. 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:55.280 Yeah. Then the same thing happened Raven was Raven had 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:59.400 launched and they were having a problem with the showrunners again. 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:02.800 So it's the minute we wrapped Even Stevens and they 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:05.480 sent this over to Raven to fix that show. 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:05.760 Right. 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:08.920 Unlike Even Stevens, where we had eight weeks and could 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:12.400 hire our own staff, they said, we're shooting tomorrow, so 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:15.920 go to the table, read and rewrite the script that night. 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:19.440 And so we did. We you know, we jumped in 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:23.320 back to singing the multi camera like full house, right, 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:26.520 and then we did, you know, one hundred episodes of Raven, 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:29.520 and then we just spin off of that called Corey 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:33.960 in the House with Little Brother where he his father's 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:37.360 the White House chef, right, and that ran again another 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:41.120 writer strike came, so we did thirty five episodes of that, 0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:43.640 and then the writer strike hit and then they canceled that, 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:52.199 and so that's when Dennis decided to retire. Had so 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:55.840 I did a bunch of more shows for Disney Jonas 0:13:55.880 --> 0:14:01.920 Brothers and kicking it to you know, a few more 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:07.800 bizarre bark Olivia Rodriguez. First, Yeah, that came out of 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:11.559 I was running a writer's program at Disney Channel called Storytellers, 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:16.360 where we brought in young writers and developed a pilot 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:18.200 for each one of them. And so that bizarre bark 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:21.040 came out and came out of that. And then since then, 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:24.200 I wrote a play that I did out in Thousand Oaks, 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:26.200 which is now seen to be a movie. I hope 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:33.160 the furniture. The furniture okay, very adult, very furniture kid 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:41.840 like about a father and three daughters who's he loses 0:14:41.880 --> 0:14:45.520 his wife meets who everyone thinks it's a gold digger 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:48.080 and calls the kids over to divide up the furniture. 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:54.200 So based on kind of ah yes. And then I 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:57.600 have another screenplay I'm working on with one of the 0:14:57.600 --> 0:15:00.920 people from Disney Channel, more more a family oriented thing 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:05.200 called One Hit Wonderland, which is a Christmas movie. Yeah, 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:10.320 an eighties rocker and his grandson. My relationship with my 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:14.560 grandson who which is amazing. So yeah, so I'm staying 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:19.480 busy and you know, keeping my my skin in the 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:20.480 game a little bit right. 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:22.800 Yeah, I love to hear that. 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:26.400 Wow, it's amazing, you know again, the careers of people 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:29.440 that we've known and that you know, have come through 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:30.880 our full house family and our. 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:33.479 Full house life. Like it's it's pretty. 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:37.640 Cool when we realize them, the fact that everyone has had, Yeah, 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:37.960 it is. 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:40.520 And it's so great to see you guys, and and 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:46.400 see you thriving. It's really fantastic. Joe, your book was amazing. 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:47.720 Thank you. 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:50.040 You know, the struggle that you went through, And there 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:51.800 was one thing I always wanted to talk to you 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:55.680 about this, but is it okay too? Yeah? Yeah, so 0:15:56.560 --> 0:15:59.200 you told about it. It was life changing for me 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:03.080 in a way because I was developing a website to 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:07.560 help kids get into show business, right called your Kids 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:10.480 in the Biz, and I had investors and I had 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:13.480 it people. I mean, it was all kind of there, 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:17.080 and I was trying to exploit, really, you know, my 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:20.520 my expertise, and I was working with a casting director 0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:22.840 who worked in kids TV and we were going to 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:25.960 have you know, kids send in tapes and all this thing. 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:28.360 And then I read the chapter in your book and 0:16:28.360 --> 0:16:31.360 you talked about when you went back to school and 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:33.520 kids would come up to you and say, hey, Jody, 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:36.920 tell us a joke. Be funny, and you said, I 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:40.360 didn't have and you are funny, But I didn't have 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:42.440 I didn't I didn't have writers. You know, he said, 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:44.840 where are my writings? And so you, you know, take 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:46.960 a little sip of alcohol or something to kind of 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:49.480 loosen you up. And I'm like, do I really want 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:54.080 to encourage children to get into this business? I mean, 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:57.520 you two were one in a billion, and Canvas also 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:01.520 the Olsen twins didn't really have it. But I felt 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:05.440 like some kids were really inspired and Prodigy is really 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:09.439 born into it and self motivated, and it's okay for 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:11.840 those kids, but other times, you know, the parents are 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:13.399 pushing them in. I mean, I can tell you a 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:16.959 million Marble stories about Kew kids and going through those 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:21.280 sessions and the comfortableness of it. And so I just 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:25.560 I backed out of that project. I was like, I can't, 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:29.639 I can't put my heart into something that is ns it. 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:32.639 You know, it's hard, it is it's a it's a 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:35.000 hard business to be in it as a kid. 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:36.280 And I think. 0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:39.840 Especially now, I mean people always ask now, you know 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:40.960 when you get into the business now, and I'm like, 0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:42.680 I don't know that I do it now now it's 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:45.679 so it. You know, to start as a kid with 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:48.280 just the amount of exposure that you have would be 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:51.720 really really difficult, but it is. And I think I 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:55.880 actually really like, I admire that you even considered that, 0:17:55.920 --> 0:17:57.560 because there are a lot of people in this business 0:17:57.560 --> 0:17:59.920 who are like, oh, they'll be fine, or it is sorry, 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:03.000 you know, and it is. It's a it's a if 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:06.040 you love it, you love it. But if it's something 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:11.320 that you're being sort of pushed towards, it can really backfire. 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:15.080 Right Andrew, were you pushed into it or did you 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:17.080 kind of sels? No? 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:19.919 No, I loved it. 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:24.160 I started at age five, and so I at five, 0:18:24.200 --> 0:18:26.680 I you know, I didn't really have a choice. At five, 0:18:26.720 --> 0:18:28.439 my parents like, hey, you're going to go audition for 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:30.600 Judy Savage and then she's going to become your agent, 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:33.960 and then you're so I loved it. So I eventually 0:18:34.080 --> 0:18:36.600 chose it. But no, at first my parents are like, here, 0:18:36.640 --> 0:18:39.840 just try this. But they always had such a positive, 0:18:39.880 --> 0:18:41.800 healthy attitude about it. They were like, this is your 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:45.639 after school start. This isn't like a career. And so 0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:48.720 once it becomes once it's no longer fun, you can 0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:50.679 quit as long as you're write under contract. You can 0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:55.040 quit anytime, just write your agent a letter. And until 0:18:55.040 --> 0:18:57.320 I got to college, you know, the eight season of 0:18:57.359 --> 0:18:59.240 Full House, I was like, this is great, I'm not 0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:02.240 going to leave, and then I did after Full House, 0:19:02.800 --> 0:19:05.000 So yeah, it was very positive. It's it's very eye 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:07.720 opening to be an adult on a sitcom set now 0:19:08.440 --> 0:19:12.119 and to watch child actors of this day because you 0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:14.800 can tell the ones that are pushed into it and 0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:18.439 the ones that have chosen it, and yeah, it's just 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:23.119 a completely different it's a completely different set. And growing 0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:24.840 up with Jody and Canvas on the set, we were 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:25.280 just like. 0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:28.639 I don't know, I felt like we were so professional. 0:19:28.040 --> 0:19:33.240 As kids situation, and it's not necessarily the case now. 0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:33.879 I don't think so. 0:19:34.080 --> 0:19:39.840 I'm much more unprofessional now than I was then, for sure. 0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:44.480 Or your parents were fantastic and supportive and you know, 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:49.160 never felt we were exploiting you where they were exploited. 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:52.920 No, they were like normal parents that were like very involved, 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:56.399 and it was they they were the parents that didn't 0:19:56.440 --> 0:19:57.920 want this business for themselves. 0:19:58.000 --> 0:20:01.000 And that's not always the case with a lot of I've. 0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:04.639 Been on so many shows where because you know, you 0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:08.160 get pigeonholed, as you know in kids TV and family TV. 0:20:08.359 --> 0:20:11.520 So you know, every job I pat after the House 0:20:11.560 --> 0:20:15.840 basically was in that genre. And so many kids and 0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:21.600 so many awful situations, you know, but a few good ones, yeah, 0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:23.879 but a lot of really bad ones. 0:20:24.400 --> 0:20:25.480 Yeah. 0:20:25.720 --> 0:20:29.240 After a while, I started warning, you know, I'd call 0:20:29.359 --> 0:20:33.080 all the parents and the kids together before, like before 0:20:33.080 --> 0:20:36.560 we shot the pilot, like of Kicking It or Bizarre Park, 0:20:36.840 --> 0:20:39.439 the last two Disney shows I did, called all the 0:20:39.520 --> 0:20:42.040 parents and the kids, and I said, look, it's gonna 0:20:42.040 --> 0:20:44.720 be an amazing experience. This could go one episode, it 0:20:44.760 --> 0:20:48.280 could go five years. It could change your life or 0:20:48.520 --> 0:20:52.760 disappoint you forever. Just embrace it, you know, be humble. 0:20:52.800 --> 0:20:56.680 What's that song? Always be humble and kind you know, yeah, yeah, 0:20:57.080 --> 0:21:01.640 be humble, you know, appreciate it, and you know, keep 0:21:01.760 --> 0:21:06.720 a perspective. Because I felt there was responsibility as a writer, showrunner, 0:21:06.840 --> 0:21:12.480 creator or whatever. Two. These are kids, you know there. 0:21:12.520 --> 0:21:14.080 Some of them are there by choice, some are not. 0:21:14.560 --> 0:21:17.359 And if you've seen all these documentaries. 0:21:16.720 --> 0:21:26.160 Coming out now, you know, but that woman. I think 0:21:26.200 --> 0:21:29.320 one of the things that made working on our show 0:21:29.359 --> 0:21:31.919 special was that there were we. 0:21:31.760 --> 0:21:37.800 Were surrounded by adults like you guys who considered our 0:21:37.840 --> 0:21:40.760 feelings and our well being and are you know, it 0:21:40.920 --> 0:21:43.199 was like I would say, all of our parents, the 0:21:43.280 --> 0:21:47.000 adults on the show, the writer like it was. You know, 0:21:47.119 --> 0:21:50.440 we were supported as kids and taken care of at like, yes, 0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:54.280