Speaker 1: He there, Fanaridos, Welcome to part two of our interview
Speaker 1: with Mark Warren. We can't wait for you to hear
Speaker 1: even more behind the scenes stories from the person who
Speaker 1: produced and wrote some of your favorite episodes on Full House.
Speaker 2: So let's get right into it.
Speaker 3: Here's Mark, if you could go back and if there
Speaker 3: is anything if you could go back though, is there
Speaker 3: anything you would change about the show or a storyline
Speaker 3: that you wish would have gotten written differently that like
Speaker 3: you had an intention for and then it you know,
Speaker 3: they got notes and it went sideway.
Speaker 4: I think thee was disappointing. We didn't know it was
Speaker 4: going to be the final episode, and there was so
Speaker 4: much turmoil around that time. Are we coming back? Are
Speaker 4: we going to the w B which which was new
Speaker 4: at the time. Uh, did the guys want to come back? Did?
Speaker 4: There was so much so, like maybe a week before
Speaker 4: they said, well, you know, this is it. We gotta
Speaker 4: we got to wrap things up, and we really rushed
Speaker 4: through that. We didn't have enough time to properly give it,
Speaker 4: give it up the send off that it deserved. I felt.
Speaker 4: So I was always disappointed, and I mean it's an
Speaker 4: okay episode as an episode.
Speaker 3: Now do you mean the last episode that we filmed
Speaker 3: or the last episode that aired, because that's because the
Speaker 3: last episodes that aired were the.
Speaker 5: Michelle amnesia one, right, that's what I mean, which.
Speaker 3: Led to the fan fiction story that all of Fuller
Speaker 3: House is in that Michelle's in a coma and all
Speaker 3: of Fuller House is a dream, which is why we
Speaker 3: never see her in it, which I think fascinating story.
Speaker 3: That's but no, but yeah, that was the last one
Speaker 3: that aired. So the last one that we wrote where
Speaker 3: or the last one you wrote?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it wasn't. It was wasn't. Really there was no goodbye.
Speaker 4: There was really no goodbye, and and the show deserved
Speaker 4: some kind of and I don't know what we would
Speaker 4: have done. We probably would have put a lot of
Speaker 4: time and effort into really cracking that storyline, you know,
Speaker 4: and really make interesting and inspired and fun right and
Speaker 4: and giving in a great and we you know, we
Speaker 4: it was just there was too much uncertainty time.
Speaker 5: I mean, maybe because we didn't get to say goodbye.
Speaker 5: That's why people wanted for maybe you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: Have we said good bye them like an hour We're
Speaker 5: done with them.
Speaker 4: We left the morning bore yeah, I mean we could
Speaker 4: have blown.
Speaker 3: Up horrible like that, right, Oh yeah, no, that would
Speaker 3: be be terrible.
Speaker 4: Imagine the whole if you really ended a show like that,
Speaker 4: How harriful that would be.
Speaker 3: I mean, it can't be any it will never be
Speaker 3: any worse than the Sopranos.
Speaker 5: So yeah, screen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, gone, right, yeah, yeah, some last episode was always
Speaker 3: I think a lot of fans tell us too.
Speaker 5: They're like, it was kind of we never got to
Speaker 5: say goodbye.
Speaker 1: Out yeah, yeah, yeah, I wonder someone asked us recently
Speaker 1: where we picture, like what happened after the Michelle amnesia storyline?
Speaker 1: Like did the guys stay living in the house? Did
Speaker 1: Jesse and Rebecca stay in the attic for very long?
Speaker 1: Was Joey always just in the alcove or downstairs in
Speaker 1: the basement? Like how long do you think the guys
Speaker 1: lived in that house before they finally moved down.
Speaker 4: To TV show? And I kind of moved on myself
Speaker 4: after that, So I really give it.
Speaker 3: You haven't been sitting there for thirty some years thinking
Speaker 3: about what happened to these characters.
Speaker 5: Mark, come on, where's your commitment?
Speaker 4: But you would hope that the guys, you know that
Speaker 4: that Jesse got moved on, had moved on, and Joey
Speaker 4: got out of the basement. And the other thing was
Speaker 4: the house. You know, how crazy the geography of the house,
Speaker 4: how it kept changing. Yard was three acre.
Speaker 5: Look.
Speaker 3: I have come up with a theory that the full house,
Speaker 3: that full house, the house was actually uh some sort
Speaker 3: of a portal to uh like a time traveling uh
Speaker 3: and and and physics bending existence because nobody in the
Speaker 3: house really over ages the house itself cannot exist in
Speaker 3: the shape that it is. The backyard is. We get
Speaker 3: concrete trucks in there, we get a horse up the
Speaker 3: stairs there.
Speaker 5: Is we do so many things in this house that
Speaker 5: I am convinced that it's just it's like, uh, yeah, it's.
Speaker 3: Like some sort of weird little portal where strange things
Speaker 3: are possible.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that, you know, but that was we just
Speaker 4: embraced that, And that was kind of an inside joke
Speaker 4: that if people are going to notice or not notice,
Speaker 4: you know, right under the fun of the show.
Speaker 3: So oh well, we've noticed, and we it has become
Speaker 3: a never ending source of entertainment for us to go,
Speaker 3: oh my god, look how giant the backyard is.
Speaker 5: Now, where did that come from?
Speaker 4: There was one we recently.
Speaker 1: We recently reviewed The Honey I Broke the House where
Speaker 1: Stephanie drives the car through the kitchen and we were like, yeah,
Speaker 1: how did a car get back there? Why is this
Speaker 1: child left unattended with a car with cargies in the.
Speaker 3: Ignition was watching all We were like, yeah, this is
Speaker 3: a lot going on.
Speaker 4: And there was one where you where Kimny was at
Speaker 4: war with the Tanners over the backyard fence.
Speaker 5: The Ostriche.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, the Ostrich.
Speaker 4: And the.
Speaker 1: Ostriche the strange who came up with the Ostriche?
Speaker 5: Like you want to know?
Speaker 1: But the craziness of this switch that.
Speaker 2: That was seven or eight. It was at the end
Speaker 2: I want to see.
Speaker 4: You know, we had a really interesting writing staff because
Speaker 4: when when Dennis and I took over, and I think
Speaker 4: Jeff had had kind of the same philosophy that if
Speaker 4: anybody came in and said, oh, a love full house,
Speaker 4: you know the love of that family, you know how
Speaker 4: much they care about each other, we didn't really want them.
Speaker 4: We wanted people with a lot of edge. You know,
Speaker 4: they would write crazy spec scripts that you know, could
Speaker 4: never get on the air because you could always dial
Speaker 4: it down, you know, we had like Chuck, you know,
Speaker 4: Chuck and Jamie Tatham, Yeah, to a modern family, and
Speaker 4: Karlyn Omine who had been on The Simpsons for you know, yeah,
Speaker 4: so we loved that sensibility. Boyd Hailey, Yeah, those those
Speaker 4: guys were great. All those people were all amazing. So
Speaker 4: the room was crazy. I mean, oh, I bet and
Speaker 4: I heard Doug talking about it also, how uh it
Speaker 4: was off the rail sometimes, you know, it was really
Speaker 4: really wild.
Speaker 3: But that's there's a show the writer's room of a
Speaker 3: of a family TV show versus what actually makes it
Speaker 3: on the It's like death to Smoochie.
Speaker 5: It's very very.
Speaker 4: Much yes, and but you know that you have to
Speaker 4: channel that that enery and and that kind of off
Speaker 4: the wall sense of humor and glimpses of it, you know,
Speaker 4: come out in the show. And that's why I think
Speaker 4: the show was sharp, because yes, it was a family show,
Speaker 4: but if you look at a lot of the jokes
Speaker 4: and a lot of the the the interactions and the
Speaker 4: and the storylines, they're they're sharp and they're they're they're clever.
Speaker 4: So I think that's what made it like just this
Speaker 4: maybe a step above the normal family show, and why
Speaker 4: it sustains I think, mm.
Speaker 5: Hmm, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3: Now pivoting sort of from your Full House years, You've
Speaker 3: done a ton of other television. I mean, can we
Speaker 3: just a short list of what else you have worked on?
Speaker 4: The after Full House? We we're supposed to get We're
Speaker 4: supposed to get a development deal at Warner Brothers. And
Speaker 4: they called us in and less Moon Beast who you know, right,
Speaker 4: just the side story when there were a couple of
Speaker 4: episodes to Less Moon Best said I want to put
Speaker 4: my daughter in the show, Sarah, And she was like
Speaker 4: a head taller than everybody else. You would put her
Speaker 4: in Michelle's class. And I think it was the maybe
Speaker 4: this Slicky Boy the episode of Yankee Doodle Dandy or
Speaker 4: something right, yes, And she looked the wrong way into
Speaker 4: the wrong camera and Moonvest was up in the booth.
Speaker 4: Who the help put that kid in the show. Don't
Speaker 4: you ever like kid? You know? But he tried to
Speaker 4: blame everybody else. But so let's let's move this. Call
Speaker 4: this in and said, I know you guys have a
Speaker 4: development deal. You know, you work really harmful house. She's
Speaker 4: supposed to have a year off. But there's a show
Speaker 4: called the Parenthood on the WB Robert Townsend, I'm having
Speaker 4: some trouble with the showrunners there and they you know,
Speaker 4: tabs and can't get along with them. So we want
Speaker 4: you to go in and take over the show. And
Speaker 4: we said, look, Less, you know, we appreciate it, really,
Speaker 4: but we just you know, this this six year run
Speaker 4: and we're really tired, and you know, we want to
Speaker 4: develop for you. He said, okay, you will find your
Speaker 4: desks and your chairs and everything out in the parking lot.
Speaker 4: Uh and a box with all your stuff, so please
Speaker 4: feel free, you know what. Less On second thought, we
Speaker 4: would love to do the Parent.
Speaker 5: This sounds great. Yeah, so we builded.
Speaker 4: It over to to the w B to the Parent,
Speaker 4: which actually turned out the great experience work with with
Speaker 4: Robert Townsend and uh fais on Love and you know,
Speaker 4: all the all these people. But it was an interesting
Speaker 4: job because you know, we were white showrunners kind of
Speaker 4: coming into a into a black show. But I think
Speaker 4: because Dennis and I had both been teachers in urban
Speaker 4: areas and I don't know that which was it was
Speaker 4: just helpful in terms of including people and accepting people
Speaker 4: and hearing their voice and kind of understanding what what
Speaker 4: our role was and not trying to impose anything. And
Speaker 4: we had a terrific year on The Parenthood. We won
Speaker 4: awards and we did work that I'm really proud of.
Speaker 4: So then they gave us. They said, well, you did
Speaker 4: such a good job on that, now we're going to
Speaker 4: reward you. You can do whatever show you want. WB said,
Speaker 4: which happens never in a career, you know, maybe five people.
Speaker 4: And so we're like, well, we were ex teachers. We
Speaker 4: want to do a show about the next great you know.
Speaker 4: So we created the show called Nick Licensed Teacher for
Speaker 4: the WB. So we did that. We hired this guy
Speaker 4: named Mitch Mlaney to be the teacher, and we did
Speaker 4: our dream show about being a teacher. Except they hated it.
Speaker 4: They hated everything about it. And we were trying to
Speaker 4: run two shows at the same We were running The
Speaker 4: Parenthood the second season and running this new show, and
Speaker 4: they were on back to back when stages right next
Speaker 4: to each other at Too Sounds stages, and you know,
Speaker 4: I was we were going out of our minds and
Speaker 4: they hated, hated everything about it. They hated Sorry I
Speaker 4: lost you that happened. Oh yeah, so I can't. That
Speaker 4: was the lowest rated show on television and it got canceled.
Speaker 4: It ran two seasons. We had two full seasons out
Speaker 4: of it.
Speaker 3: So back in the day when you could get two
Speaker 3: full seasons of a show that wasn't doing great.
Speaker 4: Ye like number eight. You know, it was like three
Speaker 4: million people watching, but you know, in those days. So
Speaker 4: then we left Warner Brothers after and you know, we
Speaker 4: had a great run. We did three years, like eleven
Speaker 4: year run there, and then we got a call from
Speaker 4: Disney Channel saying we have the show called Even Stevens
Speaker 4: and a similar situation. They can't crack at the show.
Speaker 4: We've shot six episodes. Showrunners don't really know, you know
Speaker 4: that they haven't really found it. And we said, okay,
Speaker 4: if you give us, give us eight weeks, let us
Speaker 4: fire our own staff. And because we loved the two kids.
Speaker 4: We love Shia and Christy Ramano. Yeah Christy, but yeah,
Speaker 4: she's terrific and we love that their dynamic, but they
Speaker 4: kind of missed it in the show. And so we
Speaker 4: took over that show and we did three full seasons
Speaker 4: of that show, which was amazing. It was single camera show.
Speaker 4: They let it just do basically whatever we wanted. Shi
Speaker 4: was amazing, Christy was amazing, we got to direct, we
Speaker 4: got to very little interference from Disney.
Speaker 5: Amazing, very proud of that.
Speaker 4: It's a really fun show and people still still love it.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, people loved Even Stevens.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Then the same thing happened Raven was Raven had
Speaker 4: launched and they were having a problem with the showrunners again.
Speaker 4: So it's the minute we wrapped Even Stevens and they
Speaker 4: sent this over to Raven to fix that show.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: Unlike Even Stevens, where we had eight weeks and could
Speaker 4: hire our own staff, they said, we're shooting tomorrow, so
Speaker 4: go to the table, read and rewrite the script that night.
Speaker 4: And so we did. We you know, we jumped in
Speaker 4: back to singing the multi camera like full house, right,
Speaker 4: and then we did, you know, one hundred episodes of Raven,
Speaker 4: and then we just spin off of that called Corey
Speaker 4: in the House with Little Brother where he his father's
Speaker 4: the White House chef, right, and that ran again another
Speaker 4: writer strike came, so we did thirty five episodes of that,
Speaker 4: and then the writer strike hit and then they canceled that,
Speaker 4: and so that's when Dennis decided to retire. Had so
Speaker 4: I did a bunch of more shows for Disney Jonas
Speaker 4: Brothers and kicking it to you know, a few more
Speaker 4: bizarre bark Olivia Rodriguez. First, Yeah, that came out of
Speaker 4: I was running a writer's program at Disney Channel called Storytellers,
Speaker 4: where we brought in young writers and developed a pilot
Speaker 4: for each one of them. And so that bizarre bark
Speaker 4: came out and came out of that. And then since then,
Speaker 4: I wrote a play that I did out in Thousand Oaks,
Speaker 4: which is now seen to be a movie. I hope
Speaker 4: the furniture. The furniture okay, very adult, very furniture kid
Speaker 4: like about a father and three daughters who's he loses
Speaker 4: his wife meets who everyone thinks it's a gold digger
Speaker 4: and calls the kids over to divide up the furniture.
Speaker 4: So based on kind of ah yes. And then I
Speaker 4: have another screenplay I'm working on with one of the
Speaker 4: people from Disney Channel, more more a family oriented thing
Speaker 4: called One Hit Wonderland, which is a Christmas movie. Yeah,
Speaker 4: an eighties rocker and his grandson. My relationship with my
Speaker 4: grandson who which is amazing. So yeah, so I'm staying
Speaker 4: busy and you know, keeping my my skin in the
Speaker 4: game a little bit right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I love to hear that.
Speaker 3: Wow, it's amazing, you know again, the careers of people
Speaker 3: that we've known and that you know, have come through
Speaker 3: our full house family and our.
Speaker 5: Full house life. Like it's it's pretty.
Speaker 3: Cool when we realize them, the fact that everyone has had, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it is.
Speaker 4: And it's so great to see you guys, and and
Speaker 4: see you thriving. It's really fantastic. Joe, your book was amazing.
Speaker 5: Thank you.
Speaker 4: You know, the struggle that you went through, And there
Speaker 4: was one thing I always wanted to talk to you
Speaker 4: about this, but is it okay too? Yeah? Yeah, so
Speaker 4: you told about it. It was life changing for me
Speaker 4: in a way because I was developing a website to
Speaker 4: help kids get into show business, right called your Kids
Speaker 4: in the Biz, and I had investors and I had
Speaker 4: it people. I mean, it was all kind of there,
Speaker 4: and I was trying to exploit, really, you know, my
Speaker 4: my expertise, and I was working with a casting director
Speaker 4: who worked in kids TV and we were going to
Speaker 4: have you know, kids send in tapes and all this thing.
Speaker 4: And then I read the chapter in your book and
Speaker 4: you talked about when you went back to school and
Speaker 4: kids would come up to you and say, hey, Jody,
Speaker 4: tell us a joke. Be funny, and you said, I
Speaker 4: didn't have and you are funny, But I didn't have
Speaker 4: I didn't I didn't have writers. You know, he said,
Speaker 4: where are my writings? And so you, you know, take
Speaker 4: a little sip of alcohol or something to kind of
Speaker 4: loosen you up. And I'm like, do I really want
Speaker 4: to encourage children to get into this business? I mean,
Speaker 4: you two were one in a billion, and Canvas also
Speaker 4: the Olsen twins didn't really have it. But I felt
Speaker 4: like some kids were really inspired and Prodigy is really
Speaker 4: born into it and self motivated, and it's okay for
Speaker 4: those kids, but other times, you know, the parents are
Speaker 4: pushing them in. I mean, I can tell you a
Speaker 4: million Marble stories about Kew kids and going through those
Speaker 4: sessions and the comfortableness of it. And so I just
Speaker 4: I backed out of that project. I was like, I can't,
Speaker 4: I can't put my heart into something that is ns it.
Speaker 3: You know, it's hard, it is it's a it's a
Speaker 3: hard business to be in it as a kid.
Speaker 5: And I think.
Speaker 3: Especially now, I mean people always ask now, you know
Speaker 3: when you get into the business now, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: I don't know that I do it now now it's
Speaker 3: so it. You know, to start as a kid with
Speaker 3: just the amount of exposure that you have would be
Speaker 3: really really difficult, but it is. And I think I
Speaker 3: actually really like, I admire that you even considered that,
Speaker 3: because there are a lot of people in this business
Speaker 3: who are like, oh, they'll be fine, or it is sorry,
Speaker 3: you know, and it is. It's a it's a if
Speaker 3: you love it, you love it. But if it's something
Speaker 3: that you're being sort of pushed towards, it can really backfire.
Speaker 4: Right Andrew, were you pushed into it or did you
Speaker 4: kind of sels? No?
Speaker 2: No, I loved it.
Speaker 1: I started at age five, and so I at five,
Speaker 1: I you know, I didn't really have a choice. At five,
Speaker 1: my parents like, hey, you're going to go audition for
Speaker 1: Judy Savage and then she's going to become your agent,
Speaker 1: and then you're so I loved it. So I eventually
Speaker 1: chose it. But no, at first my parents are like, here,
Speaker 1: just try this. But they always had such a positive,
Speaker 1: healthy attitude about it. They were like, this is your
Speaker 1: after school start. This isn't like a career. And so
Speaker 1: once it becomes once it's no longer fun, you can
Speaker 1: quit as long as you're write under contract. You can
Speaker 1: quit anytime, just write your agent a letter. And until
Speaker 1: I got to college, you know, the eight season of
Speaker 1: Full House, I was like, this is great, I'm not
Speaker 1: going to leave, and then I did after Full House,
Speaker 1: So yeah, it was very positive. It's it's very eye
Speaker 1: opening to be an adult on a sitcom set now
Speaker 1: and to watch child actors of this day because you
Speaker 1: can tell the ones that are pushed into it and
Speaker 1: the ones that have chosen it, and yeah, it's just
Speaker 1: a completely different it's a completely different set. And growing
Speaker 1: up with Jody and Canvas on the set, we were
Speaker 1: just like.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I felt like we were so professional.
Speaker 1: As kids situation, and it's not necessarily the case now.
Speaker 4: I don't think so.
Speaker 3: I'm much more unprofessional now than I was then, for sure.
Speaker 4: Or your parents were fantastic and supportive and you know,
Speaker 4: never felt we were exploiting you where they were exploited.
Speaker 3: No, they were like normal parents that were like very involved,
Speaker 3: and it was they they were the parents that didn't
Speaker 3: want this business for themselves.
Speaker 5: And that's not always the case with a lot of I've.
Speaker 4: Been on so many shows where because you know, you
Speaker 4: get pigeonholed, as you know in kids TV and family TV.
Speaker 4: So you know, every job I pat after the House
Speaker 4: basically was in that genre. And so many kids and
Speaker 4: so many awful situations, you know, but a few good ones, yeah,
Speaker 4: but a lot of really bad ones.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: After a while, I started warning, you know, I'd call
Speaker 4: all the parents and the kids together before, like before
Speaker 4: we shot the pilot, like of Kicking It or Bizarre Park,
Speaker 4: the last two Disney shows I did, called all the
Speaker 4: parents and the kids, and I said, look, it's gonna
Speaker 4: be an amazing experience. This could go one episode, it
Speaker 4: could go five years. It could change your life or
Speaker 4: disappoint you forever. Just embrace it, you know, be humble.
Speaker 4: What's that song? Always be humble and kind you know, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: be humble, you know, appreciate it, and you know, keep
Speaker 4: a perspective. Because I felt there was responsibility as a writer, showrunner,
Speaker 4: creator or whatever. Two. These are kids, you know there.
Speaker 4: Some of them are there by choice, some are not.
Speaker 4: And if you've seen all these documentaries.
Speaker 5: Coming out now, you know, but that woman. I think
Speaker 5: one of the things that made working on our show
Speaker 5: special was that there were we.
Speaker 3: Were surrounded by adults like you guys who considered our
Speaker 3: feelings and our well being and are you know, it
Speaker 3: was like I would say, all of our parents, the
Speaker 3: adults on the show, the writer like it was. You know,
Speaker 3: we were supported as kids and taken care of at like, yes,
Speaker 3: it was our job, but it was never nobody ever
Speaker 3: like made us feel, at least in my experience, like
Speaker 3: comfortable or or like we weren't doing our job well
Speaker 3: or you know, it was fun.
Speaker 5: We loved it and everyone was a family, your kids.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you were also kids in a very unique
Speaker 4: situation and talented kids, you know, so in a sense,
Speaker 4: you have an obligation to your talent, you know, to
Speaker 4: go out there and be professional and do a good job,
Speaker 4: because not everybody is blessed with that particular ability. So
Speaker 4: and you guys were amazing, you know, so much better
Speaker 4: than the adults on the show.
Speaker 5: We always yeah.
Speaker 4: I know, I know. I talked to John, Yeah, a
Speaker 4: couple of times a year, you know, we get together,
Speaker 4: try to do a few projects together and nice. So yeah,
Speaker 4: it's great.
Speaker 1: Well it doesn't go unnoticed by me or Joey.
Speaker 2: Just how kind you were to us.
Speaker 1: And I love to tell the story about the last season,
Speaker 1: how I had my senior prom that I was going
Speaker 1: to miss because it was on a Friday night when
Speaker 1: we were taping. But you guys ensured that we pre
Speaker 1: taped all of my scenes as many as we could,
Speaker 1: and then as soon as I was done with whatever
Speaker 1: scene I had that tape night, you gathered the cast together.
Speaker 2: We took a big.
Speaker 1: Group photo with my date, of my prom date, and
Speaker 1: then sent us off so I could enjoy my my
Speaker 1: senior prom even though it was a tape end like that.
Speaker 1: That would not happen now, That would never happen. No showrunner, producer,
Speaker 1: or anyone would take that into consideration. And that was
Speaker 1: an example of just how much you guys cared about.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so.
Speaker 1: No, I don't even know what episode it was, but
Speaker 1: the picture in the smash club. It was a smash
Speaker 1: club set, so yeah, I can see your dress. It
Speaker 1: was like burgundy. I still have that draw.
Speaker 5: Did your date hat?
Speaker 2: No, he just had great hair, but he wasn't.
Speaker 3: Why didn't I seem to remember I'm thinking of somebody
Speaker 3: else anyway, Yeah, okay, I have that picture.
Speaker 2: We broke We broke up shortly after that because.
Speaker 3: He was like, he was, like, there's a meeting family
Speaker 3: and family, Yeah than like sixteen maybe I was seventeen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was my senior year.
Speaker 4: So I was It's funny because I connect you so
Speaker 4: much with Jody, but you with DJ's friend and your storyline,
Speaker 4: Yeah connected with DJ.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now Candice and I are five years older than Jody,
Speaker 1: which I have to remind myself of all the time too,
Speaker 1: because yeah, but no, yep.
Speaker 2: I got five years on you.
Speaker 5: That's all right, my inside field years older. That's okay.
Speaker 3: Just this with uh, if you could give one piece
Speaker 3: of advice to like an up and coming writer or producer,
Speaker 3: somebody that wants to be a storyteller, what would you
Speaker 3: say getting into this business?
Speaker 4: Well, it's different now. I mean the business is different now, ye,
Speaker 4: very tough business. Now. It's the models are different. You
Speaker 4: don't have twenty five episode seasons, you don't have fifteen
Speaker 4: people writing rooms, you know, so you have to love it.
Speaker 4: You have to love the process. You know. It's hard
Speaker 4: to look down the line and say, oh, I'm doing
Speaker 4: this because I want to create a show and we
Speaker 4: have a pilot made and all that stuff. But if
Speaker 4: you don't love the day to day, you know, sitting
Speaker 4: down and writing and creating and having that kind of
Speaker 4: as its own reward. Then it's tough. It's a tough life.
Speaker 4: It's a tough life anyway, and luckily I've had, you know,
Speaker 4: a good career. Some when I sit down and write now,
Speaker 4: I really appreciate the process. But I can say that,
Speaker 4: you know, thirty years ago I would have felt that.
Speaker 4: But also thirty years ago I feel it like even
Speaker 4: though there's so much you can do now you have
Speaker 4: podcasts and you have YouTube, and you know, you can
Speaker 4: put your your content out there, but it's hard to
Speaker 4: make a living at it. Yeah, it's just a different system.
Speaker 4: And things always always change. You know. When I started,
Speaker 4: there were guys from radio who were complaining, right, I mean,
Speaker 4: it's just things change, that's it. You got to adapt
Speaker 4: and you have to believe in your talent and nurture it,
Speaker 4: you know, and just keep working, working, writing and getting
Speaker 4: better and better. And if you're good enough, you'll you'll
Speaker 4: get there. But everybody's good enough, and it also you
Speaker 4: need the realization that you might not be good enough
Speaker 4: and maybe it's the right thing for you. So I
Speaker 4: you know, people always say follow your dream. Well that's
Speaker 4: not always the greatest advice, you know, especially actors and writers.
Speaker 4: You may not be good enough. You know, you may
Speaker 4: be all good enough, which is really cruel. But so yes,
Speaker 4: follow your dream to a point.
Speaker 3: Right, follow your dreams, but know your strengths and your limitations.
Speaker 4: That's great.
Speaker 5: There we got a sampler. Perfect, perfect, it'll be it
Speaker 5: be a large pillow. But yeah, well, Mark, thank.
Speaker 3: You so much for joining us on the show. It
Speaker 3: was so much fun. Absolutely enjoyed it. It was so
Speaker 3: good to see you.
Speaker 4: It was fantastic, and yes, I wish you guys the best.
Speaker 4: I'll just tell you one last story is, yes, maybe
Speaker 4: not my favorite Full House story, but it's become apocryphill
Speaker 4: and many people have taken it as their own. But
Speaker 4: but it was me. So we were sent to a
Speaker 4: media like a journalistic conference, you know, where all the
Speaker 4: TV shows would meet all the media. And so it
Speaker 4: was at a big hotel in Pasadena, and the journalists
Speaker 4: are all coming up to They're going up to the
Speaker 4: people from friends and you know, all these kind of
Speaker 4: hip or news shows, and nobody was coming up to
Speaker 4: like the Full House. So I'm just getting drunk current.
Speaker 4: I'm just you know, because we didn't really get the
Speaker 4: respect from the critic. This was a critics thing. Yeah,
Speaker 4: the critics yeah thing, and criticston really care about us
Speaker 4: that much. So finally someone came up and said, oh,
Speaker 4: you work on Full House. They said, you know, they said, oh,
Speaker 4: you have the Ulsen Twins. How do you tell them apart?
Speaker 4: And I said, well, first you got to give it
Speaker 4: and they were like oh, and I said, I instantly
Speaker 4: regretted it. But when I came back, when I told
Speaker 4: the writer's room, they laughed their asses off. People have
Speaker 4: taken that story, and you know, it's not a story
Speaker 4: I'm proud of, but it kind of encapsulates the fact
Speaker 4: that we loved the show and we cared about the show,
Speaker 4: and we did a great job on the show. But
Speaker 4: we also had a little kind.
Speaker 2: Of edgy yeah.
Speaker 5: You too. Seriously, we didn't take ourselves. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean I made a joke on the on the
Speaker 3: People's Choice read carpet that I had the Olsen Twins
Speaker 3: stuff under my gigantic dress. So it's okay, it's right,
Speaker 3: no disrespect to them either, it's just sometimes.
Speaker 5: It's a funny joke to it Sonny.
Speaker 3: People always ask about them, and so you're like, let
Speaker 3: me just give you the most ridiculous answer.
Speaker 4: And we did give its.
Speaker 5: We love Yes, oh yeah you did.
Speaker 4: We really did. But it just you know, you want
Speaker 4: to be a wise guy because you're guys.
Speaker 3: And at the end of like of the upfronts and
Speaker 3: the media and me, maybe see me at the end
Speaker 3: of a twelve hour day, just start giving answers where
Speaker 3: she's like, did you say that? I'm like, yeah, I
Speaker 3: don't care anymore. Been talking to people for twelve hours
Speaker 3: asking the same question. They're gonna get a weird answer out.
Speaker 4: Weshul got asked questions. I got asked nothing.
Speaker 5: So that's what Well, well maybe if you gave it Mark,
Speaker 5: you know not.
Speaker 2: It's still happening to this day.
Speaker 1: We still get asked about the old sentuins ye all
Speaker 1: the time. So yeah, you got to make up answers
Speaker 1: them at all.
Speaker 5: We saw them when Bob passed a few years ago.
Speaker 3: But they kind of they I think you know one
Speaker 3: europe Ones in New York when the other they're doing
Speaker 3: their their thing.
Speaker 2: They're doing their own thing.
Speaker 4: I've they've done well.
Speaker 3: So I've heard them where it has it Yeah, Mark,
Speaker 3: thank you so much for joining us today.
Speaker 5: We absolutely love this. This was amazing, guys. Yes, good
Speaker 5: to see you and.
Speaker 4: Your great job on the Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Thanks so much, Mark, so great, let's see you to
Speaker 2: you bye.
Speaker 5: I hadn't seen him in such a while. So nice.
Speaker 1: What a joy like, What a joy to like, What
Speaker 1: a gift this is to us to get to reconnect
Speaker 1: with all of these people.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 3: I love it, and I love hearing about the edge
Speaker 3: of the writer's room.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I did not expect that.
Speaker 5: I mean I I had a feeling.
Speaker 3: I was like, you can't write this kind of stuff
Speaker 3: all day and not be a bit cynical and dark humored.
Speaker 5: Somewhere in there.
Speaker 1: It's like Bob True you know, yeah, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 5: Well that was such a fun episode. Wow.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you guys for joining us and taking a
Speaker 3: little stroll down memory lane with us and talking to
Speaker 3: Mark Warren, one of our amazing producers and showrunners for
Speaker 3: so long.
Speaker 5: I forgot he was on the show since the second season.
Speaker 5: You say that the whole time, crazy, I forgot that too.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well, thank you guys so much for listening, and.
Speaker 3: As always, you can follow us up on Instagram at
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Speaker 5: Right when they air.
Speaker 3: And uh, we will see you guys next time for
Speaker 3: another fun recap episode.
Speaker 5: And remember the world is small, but the house is
Speaker 5: full of Oh no, this is happening again.
Speaker 3: The house is full of See the joke I want
Speaker 3: to make I can't make oh because it's the one
Speaker 3: thing that that we're going to have to bleep out.
Speaker 5: But it's it's.
Speaker 2: Say it anyways.
Speaker 5: Everyone can.
Speaker 2: The fans can guess.
Speaker 5: I mean the world.
Speaker 3: You know, the world is small, but the house is
Speaker 3: full of whatever. Next now, my kids, we can't say
Speaker 3: that whatever.
Speaker 5: I'm unhinged. Let it go, Let it go. It just way.
Speaker 5: This week doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: You get a path.
Speaker 4: Yes,