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Speaker 1: He there, Fanaridos, Welcome to part two of our interview

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Speaker 1: with Mark Warren. We can't wait for you to hear

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Speaker 1: even more behind the scenes stories from the person who

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Speaker 1: produced and wrote some of your favorite episodes on Full House.

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Speaker 2: So let's get right into it.

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Speaker 3: Here's Mark, if you could go back and if there

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Speaker 3: is anything if you could go back though, is there

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Speaker 3: anything you would change about the show or a storyline

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Speaker 3: that you wish would have gotten written differently that like

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Speaker 3: you had an intention for and then it you know,

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Speaker 3: they got notes and it went sideway.

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Speaker 4: I think thee was disappointing. We didn't know it was

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Speaker 4: going to be the final episode, and there was so

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Speaker 4: much turmoil around that time. Are we coming back? Are

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Speaker 4: There was so much so, like maybe a week before

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Speaker 4: they said, well, you know, this is it. We gotta

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Speaker 4: we got to wrap things up, and we really rushed

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Speaker 4: through that. We didn't have enough time to properly give it,

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Speaker 4: give it up the send off that it deserved. I felt.

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Speaker 4: So I was always disappointed, and I mean it's an

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Speaker 4: okay episode as an episode.

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Speaker 3: Now do you mean the last episode that we filmed

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Speaker 3: or the last episode that aired, because that's because the

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Speaker 3: last episodes that aired were the.

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Speaker 5: Michelle amnesia one, right, that's what I mean, which.

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Speaker 3: Led to the fan fiction story that all of Fuller

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Speaker 3: House is in that Michelle's in a coma and all

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Speaker 3: never see her in it, which I think fascinating story.

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Speaker 3: That's but no, but yeah, that was the last one

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Speaker 3: that aired. So the last one that we wrote where

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Speaker 3: or the last one you wrote?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it wasn't. It was wasn't. Really there was no goodbye.

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Speaker 4: There was really no goodbye, and and the show deserved

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Speaker 4: some kind of and I don't know what we would

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Speaker 4: have done. We probably would have put a lot of

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Speaker 4: and giving in a great and we you know, we

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Speaker 4: it was just there was too much uncertainty time.

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Speaker 5: I mean, maybe because we didn't get to say goodbye.

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Speaker 5: That's why people wanted for maybe you know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: Have we said good bye them like an hour We're

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Speaker 4: We left the morning bore yeah, I mean we could

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Speaker 3: Up horrible like that, right, Oh yeah, no, that would

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Speaker 4: Imagine the whole if you really ended a show like that,

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Speaker 4: How harriful that would be.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it can't be any it will never be

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Speaker 3: any worse than the Sopranos.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, screen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, gone, right, yeah, yeah, some last episode was always

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of fans tell us too.

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Speaker 5: They're like, it was kind of we never got to

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Speaker 1: Out yeah, yeah, yeah, I wonder someone asked us recently

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Speaker 1: where we picture, like what happened after the Michelle amnesia storyline?

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Speaker 1: Like did the guys stay living in the house? Did

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Speaker 1: Was Joey always just in the alcove or downstairs in

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Speaker 4: To TV show? And I kind of moved on myself

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Speaker 3: You haven't been sitting there for thirty some years thinking

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Speaker 5: Mark, come on, where's your commitment?

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Speaker 4: But you would hope that the guys, you know that

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Speaker 3: I have come up with a theory that the full house,

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Speaker 5: Is we do so many things in this house that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so that, you know, but that was we just

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Speaker 3: So oh well, we've noticed, and we it has become

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Speaker 5: Now, where did that come from?

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Speaker 4: There was one we recently.

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Speaker 1: We recently reviewed The Honey I Broke the House where

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Speaker 4: And there was one where you where Kimny was at

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Speaker 5: The Ostriche.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, the Ostrich.

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Speaker 4: And the.

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Speaker 1: Ostriche the strange who came up with the Ostriche?

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Speaker 5: Like you want to know?

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Speaker 1: But the craziness of this switch that.

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Speaker 4: You know, we had a really interesting writing staff because

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Speaker 4: Jeff had had kind of the same philosophy that if

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Speaker 4: We wanted people with a lot of edge. You know,

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Speaker 4: Karlyn Omine who had been on The Simpsons for you know, yeah,

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Speaker 4: so we loved that sensibility. Boyd Hailey, Yeah, those those

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Speaker 3: But that's there's a show the writer's room of a

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Speaker 5: It's very very.

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Speaker 4: Much yes, and but you know that you have to

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Speaker 4: the show was sharp, because yes, it was a family show,

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Speaker 4: So I think that's what made it like just this

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Speaker 5: Hmm, yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Now pivoting sort of from your Full House years, You've

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Speaker 4: The after Full House? We we're supposed to get We're

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Speaker 1: was like burgundy. I still have that draw.

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Speaker 5: Did your date hat?

440
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Speaker 2: No, he just had great hair, but he wasn't.

441
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Speaker 3: Why didn't I seem to remember I'm thinking of somebody

442
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Speaker 3: else anyway, Yeah, okay, I have that picture.

443
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Speaker 2: We broke We broke up shortly after that because.

444
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Speaker 3: He was like, he was, like, there's a meeting family

445
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Speaker 3: and family, Yeah than like sixteen maybe I was seventeen.

446
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was my senior year.

447
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Speaker 4: So I was It's funny because I connect you so

448
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 4: much with Jody, but you with DJ's friend and your storyline,

449
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Speaker 4: Yeah connected with DJ.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Now Candice and I are five years older than Jody,

452
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Speaker 1: which I have to remind myself of all the time too,

453
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Speaker 1: because yeah, but no, yep.

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Speaker 2: I got five years on you.

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Speaker 5: That's all right, my inside field years older. That's okay.

456
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Speaker 3: Just this with uh, if you could give one piece

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Speaker 3: of advice to like an up and coming writer or producer,

458
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Speaker 3: somebody that wants to be a storyteller, what would you

459
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Speaker 3: say getting into this business?

460
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Speaker 4: Well, it's different now. I mean the business is different now, ye,

461
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 4: very tough business. Now. It's the models are different. You

462
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 4: don't have twenty five episode seasons, you don't have fifteen

463
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Speaker 4: people writing rooms, you know, so you have to love it.

464
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Speaker 4: You have to love the process. You know. It's hard

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Speaker 4: to look down the line and say, oh, I'm doing

466
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Speaker 4: this because I want to create a show and we

467
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Speaker 4: have a pilot made and all that stuff. But if

468
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Speaker 4: you don't love the day to day, you know, sitting

469
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Speaker 4: down and writing and creating and having that kind of

470
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Speaker 4: as its own reward. Then it's tough. It's a tough life.

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Speaker 4: It's a tough life anyway, and luckily I've had, you know,

472
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Speaker 4: a good career. Some when I sit down and write now,

473
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Speaker 4: I really appreciate the process. But I can say that,

474
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Speaker 4: you know, thirty years ago I would have felt that.

475
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Speaker 4: But also thirty years ago I feel it like even

476
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 4: though there's so much you can do now you have

477
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Speaker 4: podcasts and you have YouTube, and you know, you can

478
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 4: put your your content out there, but it's hard to

479
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Speaker 4: make a living at it. Yeah, it's just a different system.

480
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Speaker 4: And things always always change. You know. When I started,

481
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Speaker 4: there were guys from radio who were complaining, right, I mean,

482
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 4: it's just things change, that's it. You got to adapt

483
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Speaker 4: and you have to believe in your talent and nurture it,

484
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Speaker 4: you know, and just keep working, working, writing and getting

485
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Speaker 4: better and better. And if you're good enough, you'll you'll

486
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Speaker 4: get there. But everybody's good enough, and it also you

487
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 4: need the realization that you might not be good enough

488
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Speaker 4: and maybe it's the right thing for you. So I

489
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Speaker 4: you know, people always say follow your dream. Well that's

490
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:44,719
Speaker 4: not always the greatest advice, you know, especially actors and writers.

491
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Speaker 4: You may not be good enough. You know, you may

492
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Speaker 4: be all good enough, which is really cruel. But so yes,

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Speaker 4: follow your dream to a point.

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Speaker 3: Right, follow your dreams, but know your strengths and your limitations.

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Speaker 4: That's great.

496
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Speaker 5: There we got a sampler. Perfect, perfect, it'll be it

497
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Speaker 5: be a large pillow. But yeah, well, Mark, thank.

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Speaker 3: You so much for joining us on the show. It

499
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 3: was so much fun. Absolutely enjoyed it. It was so

500
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Speaker 3: good to see you.

501
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Speaker 4: It was fantastic, and yes, I wish you guys the best.

502
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 4: I'll just tell you one last story is, yes, maybe

503
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 4: not my favorite Full House story, but it's become apocryphill

504
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 4: and many people have taken it as their own. But

505
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 4: but it was me. So we were sent to a

506
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Speaker 4: media like a journalistic conference, you know, where all the

507
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 4: TV shows would meet all the media. And so it

508
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 4: was at a big hotel in Pasadena, and the journalists

509
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 4: are all coming up to They're going up to the

510
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 4: people from friends and you know, all these kind of

511
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 4: hip or news shows, and nobody was coming up to

512
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 4: like the Full House. So I'm just getting drunk current.

513
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 4: I'm just you know, because we didn't really get the

514
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 4: respect from the critic. This was a critics thing. Yeah,

515
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 4: the critics yeah thing, and criticston really care about us

516
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 4: that much. So finally someone came up and said, oh,

517
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 4: you work on Full House. They said, you know, they said, oh,

518
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 4: you have the Ulsen Twins. How do you tell them apart?

519
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,719
Speaker 4: And I said, well, first you got to give it

520
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 4: and they were like oh, and I said, I instantly

521
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 4: regretted it. But when I came back, when I told

522
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 4: the writer's room, they laughed their asses off. People have

523
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 4: taken that story, and you know, it's not a story

524
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 4: I'm proud of, but it kind of encapsulates the fact

525
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 4: that we loved the show and we cared about the show,

526
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 4: and we did a great job on the show. But

527
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 4: we also had a little kind.

528
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Speaker 2: Of edgy yeah.

529
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Speaker 5: You too. Seriously, we didn't take ourselves. Yeah.

530
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Speaker 3: I mean I made a joke on the on the

531
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Speaker 3: People's Choice read carpet that I had the Olsen Twins

532
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Speaker 3: stuff under my gigantic dress. So it's okay, it's right,

533
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 3: no disrespect to them either, it's just sometimes.

534
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 5: It's a funny joke to it Sonny.

535
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 3: People always ask about them, and so you're like, let

536
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 3: me just give you the most ridiculous answer.

537
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 4: And we did give its.

538
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Speaker 5: We love Yes, oh yeah you did.

539
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 4: We really did. But it just you know, you want

540
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 4: to be a wise guy because you're guys.

541
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Speaker 3: And at the end of like of the upfronts and

542
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Speaker 3: the media and me, maybe see me at the end

543
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Speaker 3: of a twelve hour day, just start giving answers where

544
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 3: she's like, did you say that? I'm like, yeah, I

545
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 3: don't care anymore. Been talking to people for twelve hours

546
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 3: asking the same question. They're gonna get a weird answer out.

547
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Speaker 4: Weshul got asked questions. I got asked nothing.

548
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 5: So that's what Well, well maybe if you gave it Mark,

549
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 5: you know not.

550
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 2: It's still happening to this day.

551
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: We still get asked about the old sentuins ye all

552
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: the time. So yeah, you got to make up answers

553
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: them at all.

554
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 5: We saw them when Bob passed a few years ago.

555
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 3: But they kind of they I think you know one

556
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 3: europe Ones in New York when the other they're doing

557
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 3: their their thing.

558
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 2: They're doing their own thing.

559
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 4: I've they've done well.

560
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 3: So I've heard them where it has it Yeah, Mark,

561
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Speaker 3: thank you so much for joining us today.

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Speaker 5: We absolutely love this. This was amazing, guys. Yes, good

563
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 5: to see you and.

564
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 4: Your great job on the Thank you so much.

565
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 2: Thanks so much, Mark, so great, let's see you to

566
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 2: you bye.

567
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 5: I hadn't seen him in such a while. So nice.

568
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: What a joy like, What a joy to like, What

569
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: a gift this is to us to get to reconnect

570
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: with all of these people.

571
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Speaker 2: I love that.

572
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 3: I love it, and I love hearing about the edge

573
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 3: of the writer's room.

574
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Speaker 5: You know what I mean.

575
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Speaker 2: I did not expect that.

576
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 5: I mean I I had a feeling.

577
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 3: I was like, you can't write this kind of stuff

578
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 3: all day and not be a bit cynical and dark humored.

579
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Speaker 5: Somewhere in there.

580
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: It's like Bob True you know, yeah, exactly, exactly.

581
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 5: Well that was such a fun episode. Wow.

582
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 3: Well, thank you guys for joining us and taking a

583
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 3: little stroll down memory lane with us and talking to

584
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 3: Mark Warren, one of our amazing producers and showrunners for

585
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 3: so long.

586
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 5: I forgot he was on the show since the second season.

587
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 5: You say that the whole time, crazy, I forgot that too.

588
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

589
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 5: Well, thank you guys so much for listening, and.

590
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 3: As always, you can follow us up on Instagram at

591
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 3: how read Podcast. You can send us emails at Howard

592
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 3: podcast at gmail dot com. We'd love to hear your comments,

593
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 3: your questions. We do fan question episodes sometimes, so go

594
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 3: ahead and send those in too. And make sure you're

595
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 3: liking and subscribing to the podcast wherever you're listening to

596
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 3: it so you get all the episodes.

597
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 5: Right when they air.

598
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Speaker 3: And uh, we will see you guys next time for

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Speaker 3: another fun recap episode.

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Speaker 5: And remember the world is small, but the house is

601
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Speaker 5: full of Oh no, this is happening again.

602
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 3: The house is full of See the joke I want

603
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 3: to make I can't make oh because it's the one

604
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Speaker 3: thing that that we're going to have to bleep out.

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00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 5: But it's it's.

606
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 2: Say it anyways.

607
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 5: Everyone can.

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Speaker 2: The fans can guess.

609
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 5: I mean the world.

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Speaker 3: You know, the world is small, but the house is

611
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 3: full of whatever. Next now, my kids, we can't say

612
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 3: that whatever.

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00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 5: I'm unhinged. Let it go, Let it go. It just way.

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Speaker 5: This week doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: You get a path.

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Speaker 4: Yes,