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Speaker 1: Twelve of the NFL's finest quarterbacks have left the comfort

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Speaker 1: of their stadiums and luxury suites for the adventure.

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Speaker 2: Of a lifetime.

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Speaker 1: These brit iron heroes are used to leading their teams

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Speaker 1: on the field, but can they outplay, outlast, and outthrow

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Speaker 1: each other in the ultimate survival challenge?

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Speaker 3: You ain't everything you have in the gobae tie you man.

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Speaker 1: We find a way to win the No matter what,

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Speaker 1: the stakes are high and the competition is fierce, only

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Speaker 1: one can claim the title of the ultimate survivor. Who

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Speaker 1: will rise to the top and who will be sacked?

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Speaker 3: They wrote me off, I ain't right back though, that's

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Speaker 3: the problem.

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Speaker 2: Al right back, Let's go. This is Quarterback of Island.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to Quarterback Island. Here we are in the Chris

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Speaker 4: Westling podcast studio where it's always island time, and we

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Speaker 4: have just been on a break.

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Speaker 3: It is great to be back on the island.

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Speaker 4: Yes, with the two people who have been here throughout,

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Speaker 4: Steve Weis and Jordan Rodge, who also has a co

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Speaker 4: executive producer credit for Quarterback Island. One of your favorite

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Speaker 4: days of the year. Jordan, I ask you, what is

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Speaker 4: Quarterback Island? How would you define how to get on

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Speaker 4: to Quarterback Island.

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Speaker 5: Quarterback Island is a place and an idea. It is

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Speaker 5: categorizing in a non ranked and non listical way of

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Speaker 5: the players who define what a playing quarterback is.

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Speaker 3: She doesn't even know. I mean even the confusing.

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Speaker 2: There's a one winner that was like so strategic. I'm

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Speaker 2: kind of like, hey, right now, whatever the number we choose,

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Speaker 2: it's where of the twelve best quarterbacks?

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's your definite.

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Speaker 2: It's why the twelve best quarterback with certain circumstances.

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Speaker 5: I love how Greg says it's confusing. I literally went

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Speaker 5: back and listened to our first episode last year of

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Speaker 5: Quarterback Island, and I almost forbad him use the exact

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Speaker 5: description that Greg co opted into defining what quarterback. Gregg's

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Speaker 5: response to me, Oh, it's confusing.

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Speaker 4: I mean twelve twelve men will finish this episode on quarterback.

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Speaker 4: To be clear, if you listen to last year's Quarterback Island,

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Speaker 4: we did kick a few members off, made it smaller

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Speaker 4: by the end. It ended with ten. But this is

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Speaker 4: a brand new season. We're starting from scratch. We're not

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Speaker 4: kicking anyone off per se, or we're putting twelve guys.

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Speaker 3: This is on there. It's a level set five guys. Actually,

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Speaker 3: we went and checked.

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Speaker 4: We've now got history stayed on the island throughout all

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Speaker 4: of last season and five. I suspect those five will

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Speaker 4: be back again this season. And yeah, we all have

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Speaker 4: our different definitions and we're gonna talk about that during

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Speaker 4: the show. To me, it's like who defines the quarterback position?

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Speaker 6: It's literally what I said.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you kind of were going you were Hemmon

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Speaker 4: and Hein and Steve was with me. It wasn't it

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Speaker 4: was some extra verbiage in there, Joe, Yeah, it was. Oh,

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Speaker 4: I will say this next time. We have to get

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Speaker 4: Mahomes this new haircut. Yes, yes, the picture, yes, and

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Speaker 4: he's on it. You can check this show out on YouTube.

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Speaker 4: As always, I think it's safe to say that Patrick

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Speaker 4: Mahomes is going to be on it. So let's just

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Speaker 4: get right to it. There's thirty two starting quarterbacks in

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Speaker 4: the NFL. Although we don't know who is starting for

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Speaker 4: starting in Week one for the Indianapolis Cold So I

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Speaker 4: thought one way to just speed through the top of

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Speaker 4: this show is let's talk about the guys who just

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Speaker 4: aren't on this island. Let's eliminate them and I will

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Speaker 4: read these ten names, and if you guys disagree at

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Speaker 4: the end of it, we could have a longer conversation.

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Speaker 4: I do want to talk about the Colts who named

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Speaker 4: Daniel Jones their starter on Tuesday, but.

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Speaker 3: Here are ten guys.

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Speaker 4: I think we don't need to really go too long

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Speaker 4: about Joe Flacco with the Cleveland Browns, whoever wins the

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Speaker 4: great career Jackson are very interesting. I don't think they're

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Speaker 4: on quarterback island right now. I mentioned Daniel Jones. That's

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Speaker 4: for right there. Last year we didn't put any rookies

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Speaker 4: And then the last of these ten that I don't

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Speaker 3: Would be Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 4: I think he's pretty far from this list right now,

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Speaker 4: do you guys disagree with any of those ten? And

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Speaker 4: if you were choosing someone from these ten, if you

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Speaker 4: at some point this year. I'm just curious, like, pick

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I agree with them. First of all, I

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Speaker 5: these merit for their discussion about being off the island

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Speaker 5: for sure. If somebody is going to ascend to the

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Speaker 5: say Mike Pennix has a pretty good shot.

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Speaker 2: I would be either Penix or JJ McCarthy. Interesting, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean Penix's gonna put up some numbers this year.

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Speaker 4: When I thought of like the big picture of it all,

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Speaker 4: trying to answer my own questions, I am obviously an

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Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers hater and not believing that he's gonna play

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Speaker 4: well this year. But if I take that bias away,

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Speaker 4: he is playing for a pretty great organization.

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Speaker 3: He is one of the all time greats.

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Speaker 4: He will be in the mix of you know, the

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Speaker 4: primetime games and everything. I think he has a shot here,

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Speaker 4: like to prove us all wrong and to become at

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Speaker 4: to choose one of these guys. But all right, we've

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Speaker 4: eliminated ten right.

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Speaker 3: Off the top.

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Speaker 2: That was fast.

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Speaker 3: You're gone.

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Speaker 2: That's good.

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Speaker 4: Next up, I mentioned five guys stayed on the island

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Speaker 4: for all of last season. Four of them have kind

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Speaker 4: the big four right now. That's Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 4: are going to be part of Quarterback Island. They increase

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't disagree with any of these. These are

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty four, twenty twenty five. I also think it's

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Speaker 5: also fair to say that I've got one eye on.

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Speaker 5: I know, Greg, you've been on this too, got one

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Speaker 5: eye on. Pat Mahomes needs to play a little bit better.

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Speaker 5: I think that you know, it's still inside top ten

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Speaker 6: It's not a perfect.

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Speaker 5: Stat obviously, but Pat Mahomes I think could as send

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Speaker 5: they've built around him in terms of his offensive line.

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Speaker 5: You just really want to see him back in that

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Speaker 4: Biba, the eyes give me a little sizzle, Patrick wants

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Speaker 4: to me. Quarterback on is much more of a feeling

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Speaker 4: of like how they make you feel, how center they

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Speaker 4: to the old Mahome.

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Speaker 2: He is to me, he's one of the two, one,

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Speaker 2: two or three guys you could put on any team

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Speaker 2: in any system, under any head coach, under any weather conditions,

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Speaker 2: and he's going to make your team better. You're going

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Speaker 3: These four are the four. I think these threo four.

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Speaker 2: I think these four?

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Speaker 4: Who's the guy you're leaving out there? Because I was

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Speaker 4: going to ask you, guys, if you were picking one

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Speaker 4: at some point this year, like which one would you pick?

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Speaker 4: Because the history of the NFL would say that they're

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Speaker 4: of are these guys?

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Speaker 3: These guys?

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Speaker 4: So I thought it was an unfair question because I

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Speaker 5: Thank you for having that conversation with yourself in your

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Speaker 5: own head and talking yourself out there.

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Speaker 3: That's literally what NFL Daily is all about.

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Speaker 2: I will say this though, the way you went about

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Speaker 2: this is exactly how I do. I'm like, Okay, who

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Speaker 2: So you knocked off ten and I twenty two, okay.

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Speaker 4: And now we put on four. So they're on the

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Speaker 2: You put on four. So I was like, okay, I

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Speaker 4: And okay, so we have eighteen remaining starting quarterbacks in

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Speaker 6: Oh everyone, we're getting into the math now.

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Speaker 3: It should be easy. Oh boy, we we have eight spots.

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Speaker 4: And what I wanted to do here, you know, eighteen guys,

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Speaker 4: eight spots, is that we go around the room and

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Speaker 4: we bring up quarterbacks for discussion and we will vote

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Speaker 4: either yes, no, or table at the end of each

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Speaker 4: to bring up a guy that you think should be on,

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Speaker 4: although you can if you want to go strong and

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Speaker 4: say I think this person should be on, We'll go

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Speaker 4: eliminating some people, that's fine too. And looking at the

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Speaker 4: final ten members of last year, and if you're curious,

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Speaker 4: Jade and Daniels, Jared Goff, Justin Herbert, Sam Darnold Baker, Mayfield,

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Speaker 4: Gino Smith. This happened we did the final QB Island

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Speaker 4: the playoffs. Only one of those guys stayed on the

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Speaker 4: just gonna start the process and nominate and say I

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Speaker 4: do support Jared Goff just staying on the island because

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Speaker 4: at this point, and yeah, if you're watching, we have

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Speaker 4: some placards. Steve Weis is holding up a yes, yes,

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Speaker 4: Jordan Rodriguez holding up a yes question, and it's just

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Speaker 3: As like this guy that is in that.

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Speaker 4: Area of courtback. I'm not saying he's the fifth best.

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Speaker 4: This is where I disagree with you, Steve. I don't

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Speaker 4: if you're talking about who is defining the position and

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Speaker 4: who is playing at a consistently high level, it ask to.

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Speaker 2: Be Jared, I would agree. And I think he's to

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Speaker 6: Know exactly what the quarterback.

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Speaker 5: He is a fixed point on the map of them,

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Speaker 4: And look, he's not above a clunker. He started off

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Speaker 4: But the longer we do this, it's like, you got

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Speaker 4: You can't divorce them. That's football. Like the system and

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Speaker 4: that haircut of Jared Goff. So all right, we have

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Speaker 3: It's like the same every year. It looks great.

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Speaker 4: He was really good on Quarterback. By the way, I

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Speaker 4: an NFL film, it's like it's a lot of Jared Goffa.

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Speaker 5: He's come a long way from being the guy who

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Speaker 4: Let's have you bring up someone to that you want on,

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Speaker 5: I would, first of all, I want this guy on

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Speaker 5: I think Jalen Hurts belongs on island. I'm also sort

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Speaker 3: He's on an actual island.

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Speaker 5: It is only right, true and fair that Super Bowl

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Speaker 5: winner my quarterback for many reasons, Jalen Hurts is on

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Speaker 5: with Jalen Hurts on quarterback Island.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is an easy yes for me too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's hold a sign easy yes, easy, yes, Okay,

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Speaker 2: I mean support cast great offensive line. You don't go

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but adds such a threaten in many ways and

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Speaker 5: you cannot hold the system against the quarterback.

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Speaker 6: Greg you just said it. And I know we're all

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Speaker 5: It's he is perfect for the environment around him and

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Speaker 6: It all works.

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Speaker 2: And I've changed his coordinators every year and continues to

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Speaker 4: And obviously they were a great regular season team last year,

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Speaker 4: it does matter that you played your absolute best in

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Speaker 3: It was some great third and long.

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Speaker 4: So it matters a little that you play your best

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Speaker 6: Hurt and he's and he's throwing it.

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Speaker 5: He's showing that he's got all of the tools that

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Speaker 4: To the course, he struggled though, too. Chris Mabona, who's

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Speaker 3: But he got there in the end last fine.

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Speaker 2: they're pushing it. They're they're they're going for it. He

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Speaker 4: It's a great point because like that that interference on

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Speaker 3: What happens next.

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Speaker 4: Touchbush, He's just he's just a He's a red zone

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Speaker 4: for one more so Jalen Hurts is on the island,

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Speaker 4: congratulated on slight slight apology, uh for last year. But

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Speaker 4: You could do a guy. I'm going with a.

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Speaker 2: Guy I want. But it's more of a projection. Oh,

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Speaker 2: Dak Prescott. Okay, Okay, And here's why I say they

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Speaker 2: we don't talk about the Cowboys right now, we're talking

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Speaker 2: shoddy And I'm talking to coaches who have coached with him,

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Speaker 5: So I'm so glad you brought him up because he

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Speaker 5: For various reasons. Unfortunately for me, Dak was someone who

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Speaker 5: I don't quite trust yet heading into this season. Specifically,

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Speaker 5: little bit all those things he's got, But I don't

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Speaker 2: Because the other Hammy yeah.

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Speaker 5: But then also like a gnarly hammy by the way,

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Speaker 3: It sounds like a no or a table tat table.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I have no problem to it, because I

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I have a problem with it. I'm voting him

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Speaker 4: That's majority to me. Dak Prescott deserves to be there.

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Speaker 4: When you ultimately look at this list, I am voting yes.

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Speaker 3: And here's why. It's kind of my argument against.

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Speaker 4: Eli Manning taking astray for the Hall of Fame. Tell

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Speaker 4: And I know it's not all about rankings, but when

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Speaker 3: He's just that dude.

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Speaker 4: And he's worked in a bunch of different ideas of

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Speaker 5: Yes, I am looking at it contextually through the lens

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Speaker 3: Sure, I feel great about him, I really do.

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Speaker 5: I want I want him on the island. I want it,

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Speaker 5: and I think that it's going to happen. It's just

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Speaker 3: You had no choice how we voted him on it.

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Speaker 6: I'm just explaining person.

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Speaker 3: Three person panel. It's a little different dynamic.

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Speaker 2: It's all right, here's why we had it. This is

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Speaker 2: but we do it daily show Step.

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Speaker 5: I know those people are having the Dak person got

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Speaker 5: conversation offers.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I know that, But I'm just saying,

441
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Speaker 2: like when you watch NFL Network, when you watch ESPN,

442
00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:39,119
Speaker 2: they're talking about Micah, they're talking about Jared. Yeah, they're

443
00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,360
Speaker 2: not talking about Dak in this offense.

444
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Speaker 3: Totally fair.

445
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Speaker 5: And you know what I'll say is, when you think

446
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Speaker 5: about the situation that they've put themselves in with Micah,

447
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,480
Speaker 5: you your next thought logically is, oh, thank god they

448
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,479
Speaker 5: still have Dak. You know, thank God, they have someone

449
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,240
Speaker 5: stabilizing the organization in that way.

450
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Speaker 3: To me, he is He's getting a fifty million dollars right.

451
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Speaker 4: He doesn't elevate like those first four guys, but I

452
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,159
Speaker 4: think he has proven in any with any sort of

453
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Speaker 4: surroundings that he is elevating in general. And yeah, can

454
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Speaker 4: I be convinced by one day of practice that I

455
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,320
Speaker 4: happened to watch at Cowboys camp and just him him

456
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,120
Speaker 4: looking at trim and go and throwing bombs down the field.

457
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,000
Speaker 4: I mean, he throws a beautiful football and he's one

458
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 4: of the smartest quarterbacks in the league yet targets. I

459
00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,320
Speaker 4: just feel good about this. So he is the seventh

460
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Speaker 4: man on quarterback Island.

461
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Speaker 3: I'm that a lot of yes is so good with it,

462
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Speaker 3: good with it.

463
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Speaker 4: And just because I like to mix it up a little,

464
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Speaker 4: I'm actually going to bring up a guy that I

465
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Speaker 4: don't think is going to make it. I'm gonna bring

466
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Speaker 4: up Drake May I love that conversation.

467
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Speaker 6: You are going to bring up Drake May?

468
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Speaker 4: What? And I'll say right out, when I ultimately did

469
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Speaker 4: this list, I thought it was too much of a

470
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Speaker 4: projection to put him on. So I'm voting no on

471
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Speaker 4: on Drake May. I think he has to show it.

472
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Speaker 4: I think it's starting not from scratch because he had

473
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Speaker 4: experience in the NFL. But it's a little like Trevor

474
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 4: Lawrence throwing out that year with Urban Meyer obviously went better,

475
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,359
Speaker 4: I think for Drake May in his rookie season. But

476
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Speaker 4: it is a new system that's complicated. I think there's

477
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Speaker 4: major offensive line questions. I think he can overcome all

478
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Speaker 4: of that, but I think putting him on as a projection,

479
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Speaker 4: I don't think he showed enough to give him that

480
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Speaker 4: much leeway, that much grace when there's all these other

481
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Speaker 4: quarterbacks that we will get to that to me have

482
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Speaker 4: enough of a body of work to say, like, all right,

483
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Speaker 4: you got to earn it. Bro So, I even though

484
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Speaker 4: I'm a big believer in Drake May, I am voting

485
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Speaker 4: no on Drake May.

486
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Speaker 5: I'm voting no on Drake May mostly for the reasons Egan.

487
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Speaker 6: You're saying, how are I?

488
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Speaker 2: I was good? I was going to table Drake May

489
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Speaker 2: to other conversations, but the nose have it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and Greg I will push back on you just

491
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Speaker 5: a little bit, though. I actually think I don't think

492
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Speaker 5: this system will be too complicated, Like I think when

493
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Speaker 5: I was out at Viking's Patriots, the way that they

494
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Speaker 5: had to adjust the pressures that Brian Flores was, we're tough,

495
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 5: and we're really You weren't going to run the full

496
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Speaker 5: version or be able to run the full version of

497
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,919
Speaker 5: your offense regardless against that group. But the way that

498
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 5: he and Josh McDaniels sort of navigated that together and

499
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Speaker 5: totally switched to being patient like a dink and dunk

500
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Speaker 5: more offense and really being patient and waiting for the

501
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 5: rotations to fail or for coverage breaks because.

502
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Speaker 6: They knew that they would come.

503
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Speaker 5: If you know, when you're that defense, you're trying to

504
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 5: communicate so much, something would happen to give them their opportunity.

505
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 5: I really saw two people who seem like they're clicking

506
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,400
Speaker 5: so far love that I.

507
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Speaker 3: Just want to see where he's at.

508
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Speaker 4: To me, he's almost like a complicated just he's almost

509
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Speaker 4: like a rookie in the sense that I'm really curious

510
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Speaker 4: what he's going to look like in week ten, week twelve.

511
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Speaker 4: I'm not as worried about if it's not it's a

512
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Speaker 4: little rocket, it's not gonna take that long. It's look

513
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Speaker 4: Drake may I cover.

514
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Speaker 2: I was I had the misfortune and the good fortune

515
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Speaker 2: of covering in person a couple of Patriots games last year.

516
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Speaker 2: He is he's got it right, Like you talk about

517
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 2: a guy who's he's not besides a talent, Like he's

518
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 2: got the tough stuff, he's got the moxie, right, he's

519
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 2: got He's the type of dude when Josh Mitanniel starts

520
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,239
Speaker 2: eyeballing him and gritting on him, he could look right

521
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 2: back and be like, yeah, let's go, let's figure this out.

522
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Speaker 2: You know we can. We can if it takes an argument,

523
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 2: we can figure this out. Like he's not going to

524
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Speaker 2: with him. He's not that guy to put up what

525
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Speaker 2: he had to go through last year with that terrible

526
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 2: offensive line. They had ten million guys doing it, no

527
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 2: real threats at skill position, and to perform the way

528
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 2: he performed that says a lot. But he's more than

529
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Speaker 2: a tough guy. I just think he's got some stuff

530
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Speaker 2: to him. And once they get him more target let's

531
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Speaker 2: see when Stefon Diggs comes back. That offensive line already

532
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 2: is better. We've seen Trayvon Henderson ad some electricity to

533
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Speaker 2: that offense. If they have not had, he might.

534
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Speaker 3: Be the one it should be better. Am I am?

535
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Speaker 4: I a little anxious about the constant reports in Patriots

536
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Speaker 4: camp that the offensive line gets worse by the day

537
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Speaker 4: that he's getting sacked seven or eight times by you,

538
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Speaker 4: both the Patriots the Vikings.

539
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Speaker 3: Yes, I'm a.

540
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Speaker 4: Little vis vis even at Patriots practice, like their offensive

541
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:10,679
Speaker 4: line throughout has some issues. So we put seven guys on. Okay,

542
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 4: he's not Yeah, he's a he's may Drake May is

543
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Speaker 4: a no right now, and I'm doing the math in

544
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 4: my head. It's a it's a little difficult, but I

545
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:26,679
Speaker 4: believe we have five spots remaining, and I believe we

546
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Speaker 4: have fourteen guys who are eligible.

547
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Speaker 5: A couple o slam dunks for our listeners. Greg just

548
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 5: went across it.

549
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Speaker 3: Really it really hurts.

550
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Speaker 4: We are going to take a quick break and we

551
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Speaker 4: are going to find out who are the original members

552
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Speaker 4: of season two. Quarterback Back on Quarterback Island. Music's like

553
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 4: a little it's a little more ominous than it should be.

554
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Speaker 5: Fun.

555
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Speaker 4: I feel like we should be outside taking a little

556
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Speaker 4: break right now.

557
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,360
Speaker 2: We're bringing up the trauma.

558
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Speaker 6: I feel a mixture of dread and fun.

559
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Speaker 4: Okay, the trauma, you know, before we get back to

560
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 4: the eliminating these men from what could be the greatest

561
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Speaker 4: moments of their entire career.

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Speaker 3: A couple things.

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Speaker 4: Number One, I forgot to list Kayleb Williams is one

564
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Speaker 4: of the obvious ten guys that I wasn't going to

565
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 4: put on this list, like he's just got to prove

566
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Speaker 4: it in the same way we talked about Joe Greed.

567
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 4: So he's eliminated. I meant I said ten people would

568
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Speaker 4: be eliminated. I forgot to mention Caleb Williams. He could,

569
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Speaker 4: he could get there. Maybe he'd be the guy that

570
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Speaker 4: lifts from that list. And then I did want to

571
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Speaker 4: just get your thoughts a little bit on Daniel Jones

572
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 4: winning this job, something we predicted here, by the way

573
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 4: on NFL Daily, you know, listening to the Shane Steiken

574
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Speaker 4: of it all, when he says.

575
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Speaker 6: He means, I yeah, great, well Cregan predict.

576
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 3: The third person, Nick was there. Nick was there. He

577
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 3: gets a little credit.

578
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Speaker 4: The reason I wanted to bring it up now is

579
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Speaker 4: Shane Steiken said this will not be a short least,

580
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 4: that Daniel Jones will be the starter for the entire season.

581
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Speaker 4: My vibe from everything going on in Indianapolis was the coaching

582
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 4: staff had lost confidence Anthony Richardson last season and that

583
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Speaker 4: this now looking at it in hindsight, was always weighted

584
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 4: towards Daniel Jones winning because the reality is from everyone

585
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 4: that's been there and the preseason games, there wasn't a

586
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 4: lot to separate him. They were kind of predictably good

587
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,199
Speaker 4: and bad where you would expect them to be. But

588
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,199
Speaker 4: I thought it was interesting, said Anthony Richardson is not

589
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 4: getting this job back. They asked him if he had

590
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 4: a future in Indianapolis and Shane Stike and said, that's

591
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 4: hard to say. You know, he's going to be our backup.

592
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 4: He'll have to go in there. If Daniel Jones gets hurt.

593
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 4: Makes me wonder if they would ever trade him.

594
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 2: I would think now he is available, Like if you

595
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 2: want him, you can have him.

596
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 3: That's what I thought.

597
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 4: I did reach out and he gave me permission to

598
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 4: say this on the show. Ian Rappaport threw some cold

599
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 4: water on that privately now publicly to me, that was

600
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 4: just his opinion. He thought ultimately, like they're trying to

601
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 4: win games and they need a backup quarterback, and even

602
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 4: if you know all the reasons we said, they're out

603
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 4: on it. Anthony Richardson is true, they need a backup

604
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 4: quarterback and did they know that they have to win

605
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 4: games this year?

606
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 3: They just think Daniel Jones the guy to do it.

607
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:17,959
Speaker 5: I am so glad that you brought that up from

608
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,919
Speaker 5: Ian because to me, that puts off all the alarm

609
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 5: bells in the world in my head of like, okay,

610
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 5: who would be the one that would have to actually

611
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 5: say yes on a trade of Anthony Richardson. Chris Ballard,

612
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 5: who was the person talking to my colleague at the

613
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 5: Athletic Zach Kiefer, being so adamant that they were going

614
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 5: to have all the patients in the world with Anthony

615
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 5: Richardson coming into this season and Zach has a good

616
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 5: BS meter and in a very believable convincing way said

617
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 5: these things. Chris Ballard, who is the one standing up

618
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 5: there at the lectern right now casting doubt on the

619
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Speaker 5: future of the player that they previously drafted with the

620
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 5: highest pick that they had, Shane Steichen, who is the

621
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 5: one who is going out there and picking the guy

622
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Speaker 5: who is going to run his offense, who he thinks

623
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Speaker 5: can run his offense the way he specifically wants to

624
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 5: and potentially a make or break year for his own job.

625
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 5: Shane Stikeen, My red flag's going off here. All this

626
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 5: to say, I think there's a split forming.

627
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Speaker 2: Does it seem like it's great? Does it?

628
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 4: We've seen it before, Steve. You've seen it a million

629
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 4: times in the NFL when things get really hot and

630
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 4: coach are on, you know, the firing.

631
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 6: Blox actually ominous music, right, Yeah.

632
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 2: And look it's let's just also keep this real. When

633
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 2: they drafted Anthony Richardson, who came out and said he's

634
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 2: going to start right away, Jim Mersey, so you know,

635
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 2: mister Rose no longer is with us. So there's a

636
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 2: different dynamic in that building as well in terms of

637
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 2: who's who's got complete power. Let's not forget that. And

638
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 2: I'm with you. I think they lost confidence as soon

639
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 2: as Anthony Richardson tapped out last year, talking about it.

640
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 2: If I'm his teammate, I I can't roll with that.

641
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 2: If you got a dude saying I'm tapped out and

642
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 2: I'm an offensive lineman, get my elbows wrenched and everything

643
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 2: to try to protect you and your tapping out because

644
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 2: you're tired. I don't know if I could rock with

645
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 2: you now. He played better when he came back from

646
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 2: the benching last year, but coming in. This is why

647
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 2: I'm saying, if a team were out there said, you know,

648
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 2: we can rescue Dan, rescue Anthey.

649
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 4: I think I thought so too, but Ian he had

650
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 4: to said no.

651
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Speaker 2: But I mean, look, this is a coach and Shane

652
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 2: Stiken who won seven games at Gardner Minshew.

653
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Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying.

654
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Speaker 5: I'm saying I don't doubt at all that Shane Stiken

655
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 5: would trade him in a second. I think Ballard would

656
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 5: be the one saying no, got to make this work.

657
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Speaker 2: I think if they could find and there's going to

658
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 2: be quarterbacks available when when these cuts come down, one

659
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 2: might be Kenny Pickett.

660
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 4: If you can trade Trent Richardson for a first round pick,

661
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 4: if you can change trade Josh Rosen for a second

662
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 4: round pick, I mean you can maybe get a conditional

663
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 4: fourth to third for anthy Richardson. I was gonna say, like, well,

664
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 4: maybe there's no one in the league.

665
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 6: You know, there's a I can fix him.

666
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 4: There's always that I can raise, Right, I was gonna say,

667
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 4: there's no one foolish enough to like give up a

668
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 4: late second for like what like the like the like

669
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,239
Speaker 4: Chris Greer and and Ownership did in Miami back then.

670
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 4: I was like, oh wait, they're still there in Miami,

671
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 4: so who knows. I guess we'll see how All right,

672
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 4: let's get back to it. I just want to hit

673
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 4: that because that's something we've talked about all off season.

674
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 3: Let's go Jordan.

675
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

676
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 5: I had a gut feeling this would be a pretty

677
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 5: automatic yes from both.

678
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 6: Of you guys.

679
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 5: Really excited to see what he does in year two.

680
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 5: But I'm going yes on Jayden.

681
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 2: David slam Donk.

682
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of forgot you would have maybe been

683
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 3: the fifth guy.

684
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 4: On for me.

685
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're all that's a that's a slam dunk for me.

686
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 5: We're all holding up our yes signs. And I want

687
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 5: to say too. First of all, so excited to see

688
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 5: what he does with continuity at the offensive coordinator spot

689
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 5: in Cliff Kingsbury. We talked to Jared Goff how later

690
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 5: in your career that doesn't always matter as much having

691
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 5: that continuity. When you are as young as Jaden Daniels is,

692
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 5: it can matter to have that same play caller who's

693
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 5: there with you, developing that rapport and everything. I was

694
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 5: up at commander's camp recently. Everything I saw there, the

695
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 5: vibes are immaculate in terms of the love and respect

696
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 5: that he commands and has from his teammates, the camaraderie

697
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 5: that they have with each other, despite a vast age

698
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 5: difference between a lot of those flavors on the roster,

699
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 5: and it's going to be exciting. They're still going to be,

700
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 5: you know, helping him out a lot too, with some

701
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 5: of the things that Cliff and Anthony Lynn do in

702
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 5: the run game and some of the tight end personnel

703
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 5: usage that they use. It's going to be I think

704
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 5: an exciting and progressing year still for the Commanders.

705
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 2: Last year, this time, they were figuring out if he

706
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 2: was better in the pistol shotgun or under center. Now

707
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 2: they know he functions mainly better under you know, off

708
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 2: off the ball, whether it's pistol shotgun. But they've got

709
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 2: different pieces around him, right, they know what he can do.

710
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 2: But now you've got a new left tackle. Right, you've

711
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 2: got a different type of wide receiver and Dee Bulls

712
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 2: Samuel Terry McCluin. That deal is going to get done

713
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 2: at some point. Yeah, they're changing running backs, right. Brian

714
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 2: Robinson clearly is out of the picture. Now they're moving

715
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,719
Speaker 2: things in a little different direction offensively where they're going

716
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 2: to open things up a little bit more. He's not

717
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 2: going to be their leading rusher like he was last year. Defensively,

718
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 2: they're going to be better, you see, getting Trey Amos

719
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 2: at the corner to go with Marshall ladam or who's healthy.

720
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 2: They're gonna get a few more possessions per game, you know.

721
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 2: And defensively one thing you know, speaking to Dan Quinn

722
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 2: and Joe Witt about last year on first down they

723
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 2: got tagged. They were in second and fourths and stuff

724
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 2: all the time, where teams are just rolling down the field.

725
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 2: So now they built a defensive front that's to stand

726
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 2: up on first down.

727
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 6: Johnny Newton getting some pop correct.

728
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, So now they can get guys in second and

729
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 2: eight and they could turn some stuff loose, so they

730
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 2: could possibly feel they can get a couple extras, at

731
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 2: least one extra possession of game.

732
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 4: Bady mentioned Brian Robinson Yeat. He didn't play in the

733
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 4: preseason game on Monday night, and the reporting indicates that

734
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 4: he might no longer be with that team. Chris Rodriguez

735
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 4: was playing it our guy, Bill Bill, Corey Kraskamier in there.

736
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 4: All right, let's move on because we got a thirteen

737
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 4: guys still to talk about for four spots. And yeah,

738
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 4: it's never bad by the way, to just see Janianil's

739
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 4: doing things, scoring a touchdown in preseason, just just to

740
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 4: get back excited.

741
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 3: But we have eight guys on the island. Jayden Daniels

742
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 3: is on the end.

743
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw an another bomb in here. I'm gonna

744
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 2: go controversy again because I'm the stand up for this guy,

745
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 2: Bo Knicks. I know, you know I love bon Knicks.

746
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 3: It's a tough one. I'm right on the border.

747
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 2: I know he's on the border because there's some other players.

748
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 2: We've got the Staffords who got the Herberts and guys

749
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 2: who have to get to and have a conversation about

750
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 2: whether we table or not. We I think we need to

751
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 2: have a conversation about bo Nicks because we saw him

752
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 2: get better and better in Sean Payton's offense. They got

753
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,240
Speaker 2: him more weapons this year, including a Kamara type running

754
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 2: back in the draft. Offensive line is very good. The

755
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,720
Speaker 2: defense might end up being the best defense in the NFL.

756
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 4: That's all stuff that's not in bow Knicks though, But

757
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 4: so that that's the question, is that the quarterback.

758
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 2: You could sit there and say that, But what bo

759
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 2: Knicks did for them last year one he showed besides

760
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,720
Speaker 2: the athleticism, he's tough as hell. They won games because

761
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,919
Speaker 2: of bo Knicks. He made plays to win them ball

762
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 2: games in his rookie year playing for Sean Payton. Sean Payton,

763
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 2: one thing we've seen about him is he always had

764
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 2: vetteran quarterbacks. He did with a young guy. Now he's

765
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 2: got a guy in his pocket, so we can we

766
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 2: can do all this. And maybe he doesn't make the

767
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 2: first iteration of the island. But I think he's. I

768
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 2: think he's.

769
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 3: I think he I think he might. I think he might.

770
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,479
Speaker 4: And I think this might be something where Broncos fans

771
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 4: be careful what you wish for.

772
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 2: I don't know.

773
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 4: Not everyone can handle the heat that comes with quarterback island.

774
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 4: Broncos fans have been asking, oh, give us our respect,

775
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 4: give us all this hype, and okay, you're you're building

776
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:23,959
Speaker 4: up the hype Sean pay and saying you're a super

777
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 4: Bowl CHAMPI maybe you get it all.

778
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 3: We'll see if he can handle it.

779
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 4: I want to table him for now because he's very intriguing.

780
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 4: Does he define the quarterback position right now? It's like

781
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 4: right on the border suade me watching him.

782
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 5: Look, I think he we knew he was an old

783
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 5: prospect coming out, so like this is not an old

784
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 5: quarterback joke, but like he's beyond his years to me

785
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 5: at the position and some of these second year guys.

786
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 5: I mean he played you know, it was Jade and

787
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 5: Daniels and then Bonnicks at the end of last season.

788
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 5: By the end of it, and it was a steady

789
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 5: progression by Bonnicks. We did say at the top of

790
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 5: the show that we are not going to hold uh

791
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 5: system around the quarterback against the quarterback. We're going to

792
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 5: define the quarterback by what the quarterback is able to

793
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 5: do and how the system and the quarterback sometimes fit

794
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 5: each other perfectly. Well, we're not going to hold that

795
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 5: against the quarterback. It's a mutualistic, beneficial partnership between the two.

796
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 5: So I think, like for me, everything's great around him.

797
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 5: They've again similar to Jared, they've found the defining quantity

798
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 5: in the math equation for their offense who helps make

799
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 5: everything go and in reverse, that offense helps make him

800
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 5: better too.

801
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 4: It's just him versus the other guys that are table, But.

802
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 2: I think he's worth that discussion. I am a Boonix fan,

803
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 2: you and I.

804
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 5: Will say Steve argued for Bonix last year too, so

805
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,240
Speaker 5: don't I remembered the Lord.

806
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 4: Okay Knicks's table. We still have four spots left. I'm

807
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think if I want to eliminate.

808
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 3: Guys or put him on. Eliminated, eliminated a couple, all right.

809
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 4: The two guys at the bottom of my remaining quarterback

810
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 4: lists that I just think are worth mentioning our Trevor

811
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 4: Lawrence and Bryce Young. There's we've talked a lot about

812
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence. We hit him on the top ten offense

813
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 4: this show with JP Acosta. That's the last one in

814
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,879
Speaker 4: your feed. There's reason to believe it could get better

815
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 4: this year. So far, the body of work hasn't been there.

816
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 4: Bryce Young loved how he finished last season. To me,

817
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 4: it's not enough longevity at a high enough level to

818
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 4: really merit serious consideration. But guys that are kind of

819
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 4: on our watch list, I vote no on both Bryce

820
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 4: and I'm with you, Trevor Lawrence.

821
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 5: I vote no on Bryce Young and Trevor Lawrence, both

822
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 5: of these guys. You guys, remember I said, these are

823
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 5: the big question. I asked myself, who do I not

824
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 5: trust yet for various reasons.

825
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 6: Trevor Lawrence.

826
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 5: Still I feel like I've been honking about this year

827
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 5: over year at this point, still don't necessarily know whether

828
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 5: he will take the next step, hopeful that he will

829
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 5: believe it's possible. And Bryce Young hopeful that it's possible.

830
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 5: But still haven't you seen enough enough data yet?

831
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, can we add some more takeaways discussion?

832
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 3: Do whatever you want. It's your world, your boy. You're

833
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 3: the real Island guy here, your.

834
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 2: Boy quarterback for the Las Vegas Raiders. You know who

835
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 2: I think is going to be fantastic. I just want

836
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 2: to look at the other numbers and I look at

837
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 2: his targets.

838
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,280
Speaker 5: Did you guys notice how we were like the family

839
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 5: at Thanksgiving where it's like we already know the topic

840
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 5: that's gonna come up at some point that.

841
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 6: We're going to fight about.

842
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 3: We're just not going to bring up the Middle East Rosenho.

843
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 2: But at the same time, I'm gonna go with my

844
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 2: boy too to be excluded.

845
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 3: So you're already saying you're you're out on.

846
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 2: Gino and and Tua cannot make the initial list.

847
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 5: Wow, that doesn't seem to be categorized the same to me.

848
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just saying, like two is my guy.

849
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that's true. Yeah.

850
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 2: So I just they seem like they got a little

851
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 2: bit more stuff going on in Miami than most teams

852
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:48,760
Speaker 2: in the NFL.

853
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,919
Speaker 4: I hear that. It's really tricky because I think Tua

854
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 4: has been slighted your guy so much now that he's

855
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 4: almost underrated when it when it comes to playing the

856
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 4: quarterback position, and this is this is also he knows

857
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 4: how to do like him and Gino both through it

858
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 4: at a very high level at best. I feel like

859
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 4: there are tables for me though. I agree that it

860
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 4: seems like you're on the outside looking in. But I

861
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 4: kind of want to hear the arguments for the other guys.

862
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 4: But if you guys want to vote them off it, no,

863
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 4: let's look at it.

864
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 2: Don't feel because there are some there's a trap, there's

865
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 2: some land. There's some land mines right here, right, let's

866
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 2: get it. You want to get to the land mines.

867
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 6: Okay, Baker Mayfield, let's talk.

868
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 2: He is a slam dunk.

869
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 3: I actually don't that Mayfield, it's you.

870
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 5: I am yes on Baker Man, Yes on Baker Mayfield.

871
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think here's where my personal rankings and Jordan.

872
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 4: Jordan told me there was some internet chatter I stay

873
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 4: away from all that about last week we did a

874
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 4: QB tears with Sando that I was somehow giving away

875
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 4: my QB island thoughts while talking quarterbacks with them. No

876
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 4: QB islands diff. Here's one way it's different to me.

877
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield clearly is one of the men defining the

878
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 4: position right now, even if I was not starting my

879
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 4: franchise with him personally in this year, and maybe I

880
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 4: should be compared to some of these guys. He clearly

881
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 4: the body of work where the bucks are at, what

882
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 4: he's done.

883
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 5: Absolutely, I think I'm just traumatized, Steve, because all year

884
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 5: last year, I feel like I fought Greg viciously about

885
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 5: Baker Mayfield and advocating for Baker to be on the island.

886
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 5: But you know, actually a couple of weeks ago Greg

887
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 5: said congrats to Baker Mayfield on moving past you know

888
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 5: a certain level in his esteem, and so I, well,

889
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 5: it was that was.

890
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 3: On I can fix him.

891
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 4: I said, he's no longer eligible, so still I can

892
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 4: fix him, which we do.

893
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 3: He's been fixed, he's.

894
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 6: Still kind of sent him astray, you know, in a

895
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 6: little here's.

896
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 2: The pendulum swung. Okay two years ago about Dave Canal's

897
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 2: got the best out of Baker Mayfield. Last year, Liam

898
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,439
Speaker 2: Cohen got Baker Mayfield to his greatest year.

899
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 6: King Maker.

900
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield's the king Maker. He's got two dudes coaching job.

901
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

902
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 5: Now he's got King Grizzard over there. And I think

903
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 5: that this is going to be fun to watch. I

904
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 5: know that they're dealing with some even more injuries at

905
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 5: the receiver position right now with Jalen McMillan.

906
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 6: But that team is so well built.

907
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 5: When all systems are go mid season and on, this

908
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 5: team's going to start rolling. I mean, it's going to

909
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 5: be it's going to be fun to watch the Bucks again.

910
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 5: And Baker Mayfield is one of the most fun.

911
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,439
Speaker 2: And they've got a culture. When we talk about teams

912
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 2: with culture, we do not talk about them. They've got

913
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 2: They step on the field knowing they're going to win.

914
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 2: And I'm telling you a Mecca Buka could be the

915
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,439
Speaker 2: offensive rookie of the year.

916
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 4: I love that, love all of it. And Baker is

917
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 4: the ninth guy onto the island. I'm doing the math here.

918
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 4: If you guys are watching this, I'm like counting. My

919
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 4: brain is hurt. And we have not mentioned the NFC

920
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 4: West quarterbacks at all. That's what I want to wait

921
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 4: to do that. So nine guys are on, Three guys

922
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 4: have been tabled to uh Nixon Gino for now. To me,

923
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 4: there's only one guy left that I would stand on

924
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 4: a tiny table, I would stand on a large table.

925
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 4: And I just feel like is a pretty safe pick

926
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 4: for quarterback Island to start. And then it gets really Harry,

927
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 4: And that's justin Herbert. Now we are kind of in

928
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 4: the Herbert season of like show me like I feel

929
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 4: like everyone there's a lot of Herbert fatigue out there,

930
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 4: and and I do.

931
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 2: Get that playoff game.

932
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 3: It's like, what has he really done? What what he

933
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 3: has done?

934
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 4: Kind of like Dak, maybe not quite as consistent as

935
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 4: I think provide a real advantage on a play to

936
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 4: play game to game basis. Overall that to me, he

937
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 4: still deserves And maybe it's towards the back of this

938
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 4: quarterback Island right now where he used to be a

939
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 4: little higher up. But to me, he does deserve to

940
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:39,919
Speaker 4: be on voting.

941
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 2: I'm a justin Herbert guy.

942
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 3: Okay, case he's on, I'm voting yes.

943
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 5: And I also want to point out last year he

944
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 5: didn't make it on the first iteration of Quarterback Island

945
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,399
Speaker 5: because he was injured, so he was disqualified.

946
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 2: Your rule, that was a rule you made on the fly.

947
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, well no, it was a rule we came in

948
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 5: with certain other people.

949
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 3: There was a lot of rules on the fly.

950
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 4: Yes, if you'res and your your fans of the infamous

951
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 4: rip chord riptide. Nobody even knows the name, what is it?

952
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 6: It was the riptide, but ripcord got more pop.

953
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 3: It makes more sense because it's like a chord pulling

954
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:13,879
Speaker 3: you off.

955
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 2: We want to stay with riptide.

956
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 4: If we can't use that on this show, that's in

957
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 4: a future show each one of us and Colleen is

958
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 4: included too. She's gonna usually be on Quarterback Island, but

959
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 4: like I said, she's on the beach right now. You

960
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 4: can use the ripcord to what Jordan.

961
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 5: To without a vote, to immediately yank somebody off the island,

962
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 5: which which then leads to you presenting your candidate that

963
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 5: still has to be voted on.

964
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 6: The reason why.

965
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,280
Speaker 5: This was a big controversy last year with Quarterback Island

966
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 5: is because Greg used the rip chord, which was at

967
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 5: that point called the riptide and the change the it's good,

968
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 5: it's a better name, Greg, and then he put he

969
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 5: used it not to take someone off.

970
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 6: He used it to put someone vote. We have no vote.

971
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 4: Is so confusing that no one there even knows the

972
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 4: difference between the rules. It's it's you know, you got

973
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 4: to be questioning. So I'm right now, you kind of

974
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 4: are okay. You mentioned injuries, then let's get into it.

975
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 4: I will throw at Stafford because he's one of the

976
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 4: most difficult.

977
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 3: Discussions right now.

978
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 4: Now Rumors and I know you're tied in to the RAMS,

979
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 4: but this is not from Jordan rod Rieg.

980
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 3: I talk to people too.

981
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 4: There are rumors that Stafford got win that we're taping

982
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,919
Speaker 4: Quarterback Island this week, and he says, and he says,

983
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 4: get me out there, Sean, Let me out there, Sean.

984
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 3: I need to get let me out of the immortal chamber.

985
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 4: I got to get out there and at least show

986
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 4: that I could be ready for week one and get

987
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 4: on because you guys might remember we were about to

988
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 4: yank him off at one point last season, and then

989
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 4: he like showed up in some primetime game right before

990
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 4: the vote, and he was awesome and he stuck himself up.

991
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 4: So it means a lot to Stafford. It means a

992
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 4: lot to Stafford. I don't know what to think. He

993
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 4: was on mine, like I wanted to see what you

994
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 4: guys said.

995
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 5: In all fairness, and yes I am the Matthew Stafford

996
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 5: person on this show.

997
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 6: I get that.

998
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 5: But he actually falls into the same exact category of

999
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 5: the big question. I asked myself, can I trust this

1000
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 5: guy right now? The answer for me was no, because

1001
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 5: he has not been on the field.

1002
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 3: For Herbert last year. You met a full like the

1003
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 3: injury wise.

1004
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 5: No, no, no, I've been talking about it all show, Greg.

1005
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 6: Greg Grace is doing math in his head. He's not listening.

1006
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 5: Is the group of players who I was on the

1007
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 5: fence about, and I asked myself this question, do I

1008
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 5: trust them to run to run this team to be available?

1009
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 5: Some of it was injury related, some of it was

1010
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 5: just inconsistencies or in complete record in complete.

1011
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 6: Bodies of data last year. Right now?

1012
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 5: For me, do I trust Matthew Stafford right now to

1013
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 5: open up the island. No, because if he plays like

1014
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 5: how he finished last season, great, but he wasn't dealing

1015
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 5: with an aggravated day last season. And even though he's

1016
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 5: back on the field, so I wouldn't disqualify him for

1017
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 5: an injury because he is back on the field practicing.

1018
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 6: I just I don't trust it yet.

1019
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 5: And it's only been two days and the season starts

1020
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 5: in two and a half three weeks.

1021
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 2: That's why I think again, I'm willing the table Stafford.

1022
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 2: I think he opens Week one, but my thing with

1023
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 2: him is getting through eighteen getting through eighteen weeks.

1024
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 6: That's the trust.

1025
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 4: Like that because I was I was thinking about it

1026
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 4: because I'm easily swayed by the latest thing I've heard

1027
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 4: and Sean McVay saying on Tuesday he looked better even

1028
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 4: than he looked that money.

1029
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, all right, we're feeling better about this.

1030
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 2: I think I think Stafford's gonna be fine in the

1031
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 2: open the season.

1032
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 4: It's just wants that wear and tear, okay, And we

1033
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,720
Speaker 4: do want guys it's important for guys on the island.

1034
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 3: We don't want injured guys on the Island's.

1035
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 5: And that's why he was a no for me. Not okay,

1036
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 5: that's because I couldn't trust.

1037
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 2: No no, just because I'm a Stafford dude.

1038
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 4: But okay, so he's off first first, mild surprise, at

1039
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 4: least to me. I was actually thinking he might get on.

1040
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 4: So we have two spots left, by the way, Okay,

1041
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 4: And we haven't talked to NFC West much.

1042
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 2: We haven't talked NC West, but I want to. I

1043
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 2: want to depart from there because there's there's another quarterback

1044
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 2: who I just I'm not settled on yet, and that's

1045
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 2: Jordan Love. Like he's a guy who's just so talented.

1046
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 2: We saw him last year. He did it, but he

1047
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 2: just I right now, he's got the thumb thing. He's

1048
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 2: you know, I think he's gonna be fine.

1049
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 4: Okay, he's practicing, and I'm not considering that that's it's

1050
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 4: it's not and it's.

1051
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 2: It's not the injury thing. And I think they've they've

1052
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,240
Speaker 2: got some players who look really the rookie wide receiver

1053
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 2: looks like the freaking dude there. But I look at

1054
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 2: the other guys that are left, and I'm kind of like,

1055
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 2: I like Jordan Love in his circumstance more than I

1056
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 2: like a lot of these other guys.

1057
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 4: Interesting circumstance, you know. And but do you like the

1058
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 4: quarterback on it? I talk about trust like I like him,

1059
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 4: But man, you're not exactly sure where you're gonna.

1060
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 6: That's exactly why I put him in my large trust bucket.

1061
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 2: Are we going to vote on Jordan Love? Are we

1062
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 2: just going to table him?

1063
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 3: I want a table, Okay, So we're going to table Okay.

1064
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 4: I actually think there's two guys that aren't that close

1065
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 4: to making it to the island. I know you're gonna

1066
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 4: go for me. They are both in the NFC West.

1067
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 4: I'm with you, like like I was saying, there's two

1068
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 4: spots left on Quarterback Island, but we still have some

1069
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 4: more guys to talk about. It's Kyler and it's Sam

1070
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 4: Darnald and Sam Donald. One of the biggest upsets, one

1071
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 4: of the greatest achievements of his entire career. He finished

1072
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 4: Season one of Quarterback Island on the ad as he

1073
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 4: should have never would have guessed it. Now, how's he?

1074
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 6: And then the playoffs happen?

1075
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, then the playoffs happened. Has he proven a year

1076
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 4: after year he's in a different system. Does he help

1077
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 4: define the position right now? Both him and Kyler Murray

1078
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 4: are both intriguing. I think they could get there in

1079
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 4: the end. It's hard for me to pick those two guys,

1080
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,399
Speaker 4: even over the ones that we've tabled so far.

1081
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 2: There's a way I can put them in there. Mean, Kylie,

1082
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 2: we just don't know. He's a fun player to watch,

1083
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 2: but he's he's been in this league for a little while, yep,

1084
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 2: and we're still kind of asking what exactly is he Yeah,

1085
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 2: he's early in his career. He elevated them. Has he

1086
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 2: been able to do it? Is it his fault? Is it?

1087
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 2: You know? You just don't know. And Sam Darnold, I'm

1088
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 2: not even judging last year. I'm just looking at the

1089
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 2: circumstance this year. He's got one proven receiver in Jackson

1090
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 2: Smith and Jigba well Cooper Cup. But again, how long

1091
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,919
Speaker 2: is Cooper going to be on the field. Okay, they're

1092
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 2: going to run the football. This is going to be

1093
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 2: a different team than he played last year with Justin

1094
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 2: Jefferson and Jordan Natterson and TJ. Howkinson. So I think

1095
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 2: he's got the potential to get on but starting that's

1096
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 2: a news.

1097
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I put both of those guys in my guys

1098
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 5: I don't trust yet for various reasons, Bucket and in

1099
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 5: the bucket.

1100
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 6: Not they are in the bucket. They're in the.

1101
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 5: Guys I don't trust, don't trust, but for various they

1102
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 5: don't trust Bucket and so along with the staffords, along

1103
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 5: with even CJ. Stratt, I have in there. Along with

1104
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 5: I said I had Dak in there earlier. Those guys

1105
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 5: all are in the same. Okay, with Sam Darnold, it's okay.

1106
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 5: I think they're going to run the ball really well

1107
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 5: this year. I do think that can they pass protect? Still,

1108
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 5: that's still my question for them. With this offensive line

1109
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 5: there showed a lot of promise so far in the preseason,

1110
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 5: but I have questions about that. I have questions about

1111
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 5: the sustainability overall, week over week over week deep into

1112
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 5: the season. After the Kubiak offense sputtered out New Orleans

1113
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 5: last year, I have questions.

1114
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 2: A whole lot more sputted out than just the offense.

1115
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 5: I have questions about Kyler for all of these, for

1116
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 5: all of these reasons that Steve mentioned. So yeah, I

1117
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 5: don't necessarily trust those guys yet, So I'm not putting

1118
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 5: them on.

1119
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 3: Really, I'm really excited to see both of them this year.

1120
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 2: I think Seattle is going to be a really good team.

1121
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 2: I think they're going to so much put I think

1122
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 2: they're going to end up being really good. We just

1123
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 2: don't know.

1124
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 4: When you look at Arnold can take his career to

1125
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 4: a totally different level, become a guy that's going to

1126
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 4: be a starting quarterback for a long time, you'll do

1127
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 4: it again. And then Kyler this is really his last Chancelloon.

1128
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 4: So it's a nose all around for Kyler and Sat Darnold.

1129
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 4: We've we've been relatively efficient. Like I mentioned, two spots

1130
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:12,320
Speaker 4: are remaining.

1131
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 6: Always we've got we've tabled.

1132
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 4: We've tabled four guysix, Gino, Love and Tua and there's

1133
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 4: only two players we have not discussed.

1134
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 3: You just mentioned one of them. It's CJ. Stroud. Yeah,

1135
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,800
Speaker 3: so uh's.

1136
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 2: For me.

1137
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 4: He was the hardest one for me and me to

1138
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 4: I'll say, like, what is this list exactly?

1139
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 3: Because you know CJ.

1140
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 4: Stroud was the guy who illuminated that question more than anyone.

1141
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 4: Because to me, do I believe that he plays football

1142
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,439
Speaker 4: at a level that deserves to be on this list?

1143
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 2: Yes? I do.

1144
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 3: If I was starting my team. Yes, I do do.

1145
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 4: I think he kind of defines a position in a

1146
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 4: way that just like, yeah, like I I think he's

1147
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,479
Speaker 4: got he's got it for, he's got a lot of pop,

1148
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 4: he's got it for lack of a better word. But

1149
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 4: he's coming off a pretty rough season, and am I

1150
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:09,280
Speaker 4: only basing it off one rookie year? Him versus Nicks

1151
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,720
Speaker 4: to me is an interesting question, Like they both statistically

1152
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 4: had two of the better rookie seasons that we've seen.

1153
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 4: Stroud was another level. Yeah, frankly, but they both were

1154
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 4: really good. So like those guys versus each other, Stroud

1155
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 4: versus a Love, for instance, like it, I don't have

1156
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 4: the answer for me, I.

1157
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,760
Speaker 5: Would put Stroud in there over Jordan Love. Not because

1158
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 5: I think that either of them lack different potential.

1159
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 6: I don't.

1160
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 5: I'm not trying to use it as sort of a

1161
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:39,240
Speaker 5: negative quantification of anybody. I just think that if I'm

1162
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 5: building a franchise around a quarterback CJ. Stroud to me

1163
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 5: separates a little bit in that conversation. Now I will

1164
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 5: say he is also in my guys. I don't trust yet,

1165
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 5: just this for this season for various reasons, because of

1166
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 5: how catastrophic last year went for him, not just not

1167
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 5: really because of what he specifically was doing, but because

1168
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 5: of how everything fell apart around him and it got

1169
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 5: so bad.

1170
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 6: And I just think that when you.

1171
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 5: Have chaos or tumultuous circumstances around you in the similar

1172
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,879
Speaker 5: ways Jordan Love kind of has had with his receivers room,

1173
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:20,280
Speaker 5: for example, then I think that it's really tough between

1174
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 5: those guys, and I have him.

1175
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 6: I couldn't decide on c J. Stroud. I just had

1176
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 6: him in this. I've decided trust bucket section.

1177
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 2: I decided because of when I go back and something

1178
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 2: something I said about some of the guys you said

1179
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 2: earlier and about Jalen Hurts and guys like this, I

1180
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 2: think c J. Stroud is a type of quarterback where

1181
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 2: you could put him in almost any scheme with any

1182
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 2: coach and he's gonna he's gonna be the guy to

1183
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 2: lead your team. Right, last year, they did have chaos, right,

1184
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 2: They had injuries, like mad offensive line was terrible. Clearly

1185
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 2: there was some disconnect between the O C the O

1186
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:51,280
Speaker 2: line coaches.

1187
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 6: And then they lost Mixon.

1188
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, so but that's the thing. Very yes, So I'm

1189
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 2: a yes, But like you look at it this year.

1190
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 2: They got lost your mix it again. They've got wide

1191
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 2: receiver concerns, They've got O line concerns. But I'm going

1192
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 2: to say, when I look at the rest of the

1193
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:15,280
Speaker 2: guys on here, circumstance and everything on here, I think CJ.

1194
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 2: Stroud is still a quarterback who I would say, I

1195
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 2: believe a T J.

1196
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 6: Shroud I do too.

1197
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 5: And but I would ask you this because this is

1198
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 5: going to be the question we're going to have to

1199
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 5: ask here in a second. You might have to be

1200
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 5: deciding to put c J. Stroud on over Geno, which

1201
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 5: I know based on your GA that you would, but

1202
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 5: that's going to be the thing.

1203
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 6: That might come up. And also c J.

1204
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 5: Stroud potentially, depending on how the rest of the debate goes,

1205
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 5: potentially over Bonix.

1206
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 2: I would put TJ. Shroud over Bonix right now.

1207
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 6: Then that tells me everything.

1208
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 4: Okay, So to me, Steve is a yes on yeah, yes,

1209
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 4: I'm gonna table him right now. Okay, And just and

1210
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 4: just see, because we haven't gotten to rock pretty yet,

1211
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 4: we have two spots left. We've tabled five guys. I

1212
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 4: think let's determine the final two spots of QB island

1213
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 4: after the break, will there be backroom dealings?

1214
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 3: Well, it's not recording back on NFL Daily. No one

1215
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 3: accepted my bribes.

1216
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 6: Is anyone else sweaty?

1217
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:25,399
Speaker 3: Yes?

1218
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:30,720
Speaker 2: Just like this is tense, man, This is like coming

1219
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 2: off on the final episode.

1220
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:36,760
Speaker 4: Why shouldn't Jordan their their morals, their integrity are.

1221
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 3: Pristine, were intact right now?

1222
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, So we've tabled five guys, by the way, Tua, Jordan, Love,

1223
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 4: c J. Stroud, Gino and Nicks. We haven't talked. I

1224
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 4: tabled Stroud in part because and I think we're at

1225
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:54,479
Speaker 4: the point where we need to just put our cards

1226
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 4: on the table. I think Party is the one I

1227
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 4: feel the strongest should be on the island of everyone remaining.

1228
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 4: And I know I've been on a journey with Perty

1229
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:07,879
Speaker 4: and part of the reason is his his season last

1230
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 4: year had a lot of c J. Strouds season to it.

1231
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 4: I think he proved to me last season that he

1232
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 4: can elevate his numbers still top ten and all the

1233
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 4: advanced stats and all that sort of stuff. But more

1234
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 4: importantly was it was the eye test I think, and

1235
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 4: I think his situation was better than CJS for instance,

1236
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 4: but his history now that he played well enough to

1237
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:31,919
Speaker 4: win a super Bowl, that he played his absolute best

1238
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 4: when they absolutely needed it trailing in those playoff games,

1239
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 4: and that he is a little longer of a track

1240
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 4: record of all these guys remaining, I think he's the

1241
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 4: guy that I feel the strongest should be a yes.

1242
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 4: So that's why I wanted a table CJ for now,

1243
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 4: and I say yes on Brock's it's a yes.

1244
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 3: Oh wow, he got a unanimous this late in the game.

1245
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 5: I have to tell you though, it is it is

1246
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 5: a very well documented Like at some point I'm gonna

1247
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 5: bribe Eric to make a a super cut of your

1248
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 5: journey through because because as a player improves what I

1249
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 5: really like about your journey tumultuous at times with brock.

1250
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 6: Perty as it has been.

1251
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 5: As a player improves and shows that he can do

1252
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 5: different things, you have also evolved and adjusted your evaluation

1253
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 5: of said player.

1254
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 2: Well.

1255
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 4: Also, I might have been like wrong for a lot

1256
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 4: of the time too, that I wasn't seen enough of

1257
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 4: the things that were there. Of course, I mean it's

1258
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 4: happened with a lot of people. With Josh Allen, we

1259
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 4: went through it on the other round. Chris Westling was

1260
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 4: always in in in on Josh Allen and I was

1261
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 4: I was not, and like, ultimately I just didn't see

1262
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 4: it right.

1263
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 2: Well, it's like a lot of people with Justin Herbert

1264
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 2: like oh to you what? And you know when we

1265
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 2: live in La so we get to see a lot

1266
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 2: of Justin Herbert and it's like that dude. Put him

1267
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 2: on and put him on any other team, put him

1268
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 2: on any team for the most he's gonna be pretty

1269
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 2: dark good.

1270
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:53,919
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1271
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 5: And to your point, Greig, the the way that he

1272
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 5: showcased making a range of different kinds of throws, having

1273
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 5: to be the person who lifted the floor of that

1274
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 5: offense at times last year with all the injuries that

1275
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 5: they waked through though that is, and the fact that

1276
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 5: he is clearly one of their so to speak, weight

1277
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,919
Speaker 5: bearing walls of trying to develop this roster forward this year.

1278
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 5: I think all of those things are in his favor.

1279
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 5: And yeah, I do think he belongs on the island.

1280
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 4: Well, he was in the original graphic with Josh Allen, CJ.

1281
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 4: Mahomes Kyler is in there and Jalen Hurts, so that's

1282
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 4: just a little bit of a plus for him.

1283
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 3: So wow, he is on there.

1284
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 2: He's got Christop McCaffrey back this year.

1285
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 4: He is on there, which means there's only one spot

1286
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 4: remaining for five players. Now, you essentially said no to

1287
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 4: Gino and two way way back in the show, and

1288
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 4: we tabled him because I just.

1289
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 3: Wanted to see where we were at at this point.

1290
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 4: I'm not making the fight for either of those guys personally,

1291
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 4: and so I will join you on the nose for

1292
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 4: Gino too. I think Gino is closer than some of

1293
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 4: these other guys, but ultimately I'm not.

1294
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 3: I'm not.

1295
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 4: If it was a little bigger of an island, I

1296
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 4: would do it, but I don't think he's defined.

1297
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 2: So we've got Jordan love Stroud, how sad Stafford, I

1298
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 2: am sad.

1299
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 3: That's a note. I don't know if you are yes

1300
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 3: or no on those two guys.

1301
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 5: I want to I'm gonna on both of them, but

1302
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 5: I do want to push back just a little bit because, actually, Greg,

1303
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 5: I think that there's a lot of questions about.

1304
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 6: Gino right now moving to a different team.

1305
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 5: Obviously, it's a team that really wanted him badly and

1306
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 5: a great fit with the coaching staff there and all

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00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 5: of that, and so, but the questions that have sort

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00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 5: of circulated, as I think they tend to do with

1309
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 5: quarterbacks who move into different environments, whether it's a new

1310
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 5: regime coming into their old spot or for whatever reason.

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00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 5: But I got to say, watching him and Brock Bauers

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00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 5: and Ashton Janty, I think we're going to be voting

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Speaker 5: him back on very very soon.

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Speaker 2: Good preach.

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Speaker 3: I mean that what am I doing here? Take it

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00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 3: to Final Island.

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Speaker 5: And this is just a projection, because I'm actually shocked

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00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 5: that Greg went this direction.

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Speaker 4: Well, because I look at him versus Stroud and Nick specifically,

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Speaker 4: and for how I think about the Island for some reason,

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00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 4: I think they deserve it more so he would be

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01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 4: my next guy after those two.

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Speaker 2: Here's here's where I think he's going to be challenged.

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01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 2: We're going to find out if Gino is really that guy.

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01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 2: He's going to be playing from behind a lot more

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01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 2: than he had to play from behind in Seattle. The

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01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 2: Raiders defense is still going to get gashed, right, They're

1328
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 2: still going to get tagged. Playing in that division. He

1329
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 2: is going to have to put up shootout some numbers

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01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 2: for them to win ballgains. He wasn't necessarily asked to

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01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 2: do that in Seattle because at times he was that

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01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 2: defense was pretty good. We saw Gino when he's having

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01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 2: to play toe to toe or with the lead, he's

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01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 2: very That's why I think he's going to be a

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01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 2: little bit challenged. Like Stroud's got a defense. It's going

1336
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 2: to keep them in games, right right, Bonnicks as a defense,

1337
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 2: it's going to keep them in games every week, So

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01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,479
Speaker 2: they might not have to show themselves as much as Gino.

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01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 2: If I'm using that as the barometer, got to something

1340
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 2: we have to see when we come back tough.

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01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you don't think Geno Nation is watching the

1342
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 4: Seahawks suddenly have a cohesive offensive line and running game

1343
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 4: and be like, you couldn't have done that. You could

1344
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 4: have made it a little more quarterback friendly back.

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01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 5: Then we also don't have like an old guy badass

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01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 5: on the island yet.

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01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:03,479
Speaker 3: Oh that's a good point.

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01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 5: Just to Devil's advocate, it's weird that because I know,

1349
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 5: I know you want to.

1350
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 2: Get it now is just a Stafford argument.

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01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 3: No, it's weird to think of Gino as I don't

1352
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 3: trust it. Old guy? How old is you know? Thirty

1353
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 3: four years old?

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01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 4: Now? Wow, okay, it's down to three guys and here's

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01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 4: The thing about Jordan Love. As much as I love

1356
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 4: watching him play, I don't feel like there's enough support,

1357
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 4: Like maybe maybe it's Steve. But of these three guys,

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01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 4: Nick Stroud and Love, I find Love to be the

1359
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 4: harder argument, even though I think he's great and yeah, yeah.

1360
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 2: What he's health and he's on. I mean, he's he's special.

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01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 2: But again, when we look at these three.

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01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 4: I would have him behind Geno for what it's worth

1363
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 4: to Jordan left Love compared to these two guys, I

1364
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 4: would chase it.

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01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 5: I'm a no, I'm a no on him, But man,

1366
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 5: the highs are so high with that guy.

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01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 4: Looks if I was just drafting quarterbacks like to move forward,

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01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 4: I'd have him above all these guys except for Stroud.

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01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 6: That well, that was what I was saying.

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01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 5: That was that was what caught me mentally. I was

1372
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 5: that was so hard because I was really just camping

1373
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 5: those two together. I mean, either way, you're in a

1374
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 5: great spot as an organization with either one of those guys.

1375
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 6: But for me, C. J. Stroud just had the edge

1376
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 6: slightly there.

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01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 4: So we're down to Straw and Bonnicks. Right, it can

1378
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 4: only be one that's easy, And what is it c J.

1379
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 4: Straw Right, I think it's c J. Stroud too, Broncos Nation.

1380
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 4: I kind of want it's got time. Bo's got time

1381
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 4: to get back in there. We're yes, it's all around

1382
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 4: cjtra He is the final member of Quarterback Island twenty

1383
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 4: twenty five.

1384
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 3: Here you go, at least the first one. You know

1385
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 3: you got it.

1386
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 4: We got to give Bo Nick something to fight for,

1387
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 4: something to be hungry. You can't get at all before

1388
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 4: the season even starts. The Broncos fans they want it all.

1389
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 3: Oh you're not.

1390
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 4: You're not pumping us up enough. Say that they're the

1391
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 4: best team that's ever been made.

1392
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 2: No, okay, but when we come back were thirteen fourteen,

1393
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 2: We come back with five or week six to do

1394
01:02:56,560 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 2: this again. Which one of the guys who didn't get on.

1395
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 4: On Well, see, I don't like to think that Liz

1396
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 4: Bridge who didn't get out, you're going to say that

1397
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 4: is on?

1398
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 3: That is most likely you.

1399
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 2: Did not get on. Who's going to be the big threat?

1400
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 2: Will it be Gino, Will it be Bo Nicks? Will

1401
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 2: it be Stafford?

1402
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 4: Now Bow Knicks has a lot of organizational support that

1403
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 4: I think, and he's going to grow in that system.

1404
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 4: And they could be a really great team. Right, Yeah,

1405
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 4: that's gonna that's going to help his case. I believe

1406
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 4: Jordan loved to be the most.

1407
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 5: His ceiling, Jordan loves ceiling is the highest of any

1408
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 5: of those guys.

1409
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 4: He's the most likely to be in a Hey, nfl

1410
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 4: dot COM's listing their their top four MVP candidates after

1411
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 4: Week four. Of any of the guys not on the

1412
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 4: QB Island list, he's the most likely to be on that.

1413
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 5: You think, Yeah, yeah, his ceiling. Like I said, his

1414
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 5: ceiling is the highest of anyone remaining. I think there's

1415
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 5: a good argument that because I'm thinking about how Sean

1416
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:55,919
Speaker 5: McVay offenses have historically gone to start the season when

1417
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 5: he does have the health of the quarterback. It could

1418
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 5: you know, Stafford could make a case.

1419
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 6: Gino I think.

1420
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 5: Still will make a case by the time we reconvene.

1421
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 5: But if I were going to say who would be

1422
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 5: on it if we revoted all things equal, if we've

1423
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 5: revoted ten times, Boenix might get the vote five times

1424
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 5: out of that tent.

1425
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 2: I yeah, I mean, wow, this is a I.

1426
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 4: Don't smoke, but I feel like I need a cigarette,

1427
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:23,439
Speaker 4: you know. Yeah, it's kind of war that I don't

1428
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 4: even really drink much, but I need to drink, you know,

1429
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 4: just the whole thing.

1430
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 2: Like I said, because Gino, Because I mean, I don't

1431
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:30,479
Speaker 2: think the Raiders defense is going to be that great.

1432
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 2: But if Gino can come up here and make some

1433
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 2: plays to save the day, yeah he got. He's got

1434
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 2: to me, he's got more of an opportunity to be

1435
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 2: a hero than a lot of these things.

1436
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 4: And honestly, among everyone, both him and Darnald have the

1437
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 4: most to be angry about, in the sense that, like

1438
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 4: we are writing Gino off, will he right back? You know,

1439
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 4: Sam Darnold and Gino Smith finished last season on Quarterback Island.

1440
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, whether legal or not, they believe that.

1441
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 4: You know, they were an important part in elevating this

1442
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 4: franchise to the point where we got picked up for

1443
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 4: season two. And this hasn't been publicly discoes, but we

1444
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 4: all got huge pay bumps Quarterback.

1445
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 6: Island, I got, I got a bad joke.

1446
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 5: I have a question for you guys though, Actually, before

1447
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 5: we wrap of the guys who for sure are not

1448
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 5: on the island, let's say you have to pick one

1449
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 5: of those guys to uh build the next season at

1450
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 5: least not the long term future.

1451
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 2: Jordan Michael Pennick.

1452
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 5: Well, I'm saying, like the guys that we voted that

1453
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 5: we voted that are not off, not the sort of

1454
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 5: like unproven guys yet you know, like I wouldn't say

1455
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:43,920
Speaker 5: you could pick JJ. I'm saying between like Flocko Rogers.

1456
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 4: Deep Deep we answered that. Yeah, I think it's Rogers

1457
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 4: Rogers Deep Deep Cut. Maybe it's because it's what I

1458
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 4: fear the most, but ultimately he didn't make not the

1459
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 4: most in my life.

1460
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 3: That's my mortality. But we've been through that.

1461
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 6: A lot of a lot of death talk, a lot

1462
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 6: of death talk so far NFL Daily season, these.

1463
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 4: Twelve men are breathing life into Quarterback Island. We are

1464
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 4: saying goodbye. We will be back in the feed with

1465
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 4: forties and free agents next we switched up the order

1466
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 4: and later in the week, but more importantly, we'll be

1467
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 4: back on Quarterback Island throughout the season.

1468
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 3: The quarterly decision of who gets to stay.

1469
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 4: And I'm looking forward to the regular season because we've

1470
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 4: got more Steve Weisch in the studio now that we're

1471
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:31,959
Speaker 4: at the big time, the members of Quarterback Island once again.

1472
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, Jared Goff,

1473
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts, Jaden Daniels, Dak Prescott, Baker Mayfield, Justin Herbert,

1474
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 4: rock Purdy, and the last one CJ. Stroud. Don't let

1475
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 4: us down. You've been given a huge responsibility.

1476
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 6: I think we nailed that.

1477
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 5: S