WEBVTT - Behind the Bastards New Year Q&A Part Two 0:00:05.840 --> 0:00:09.200 Also media, Hey. 0:00:09.119 --> 0:00:16.800 Robert Ay, sophistophely soft damma rung the ring of the 0:00:17.000 --> 0:00:20.680 softer lung and nip. I was trying to do like 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:22.520 the ring of the nibble lungen, But Sophie, I don't 0:00:22.520 --> 0:00:25.200 actually know how to how to make that work. Also, 0:00:25.280 --> 0:00:28.720 not really a joke, just me putting your name into things. 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:30.120 How are you doing? Are you good? 0:00:30.280 --> 0:00:31.280 I was doing well. 0:00:32.040 --> 0:00:33.040 Okay, that's good. 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:36.400 I was doing well. Anyways, we're back with another Q 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:39.960 and A episode. Thank you to those who ask questions 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:43.879 on the Instagram. Robert, can you start the folks out 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:47.519 with a nice, nice creatum lemonade recipe? People want to know. 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:50.800 I don't have a nice creatum lemonade recipe. I have 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:53.080 been doing cretem so long that I don't give a shit. 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:55.880 I just pour it in water, I poured it in soda, 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:59.240 I mix it. I don't give a fuck. Don't do that. 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:03.800 It's gross, literally any liquid substance at the airport. 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:05.520 I'll say this, Here's what I'll say. I'm going to 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:08.080 give you first the responsible advice, and then I'm going 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:11.160 to give you the person who uses creative advice. Right, 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:14.399 The responsible advice is that creatim is something that can 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:16.640 and that in the vast majority of cases, will be 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:21.280 used responsibly. It is not easy to become problematically addictive 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:24.800 to for most people. If you are someone who is 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:28.600 inclined to abuse painkillers, it is very easy to develop 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:33.000 a dependency on cretum. Now, a dependency on creatim is 0:01:33.040 --> 0:01:37.720 not nearly the monster that a dependency on opiates, especially 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:41.360 heroin is, And if you are dependent on opiates or heroin, 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:43.759 cretim can allow you to get off of that because 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:46.640 if you stop taking heroin you get horribly dope sick. 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:49.720 Cretim stops you from being dope sick, and it is 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:54.320 I think critical to remain widely available largely as a 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:58.040 result of that. However, if you start taking cretim and 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:00.480 you take it every day, you will need to take 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:04.280 more and you will notice potentially. This has never really 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:06.880 been my case because I take breaks regularly. I've never 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:09.480 had any issue going overseas for a couple of weeks 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:11.440 and not taking it, you know, taking three or four 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:14.600 days off every week or two. Some people do. You 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:17.000 should be aware that that's a thing, and that it 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:20.160 is a capital D drug. I would say it's not 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:23.400 as safe as marijuana, although if you have a family 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:26.120 history of like schizophrenia, it certainly does not seem to 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:28.840 have any of the kind of like ability to incite 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:31.640 psychotic breaks that that does. But it's hard to run 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:35.240 your body, you know, than particularly like consuming marijuana in 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:37.560 a way that doesn't involve smoking, But it's not as 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:39.639 hard on your body based on all of the evidence 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:42.359 that exists as for example, drinking, particularly like, if you're 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:45.600 talking about someone who's using kreatum daily versus drinking daily, 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:48.799 you're almost certainly better off using creatum daily. I think 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:52.079 that's a generally responsible way to categorize it. The ways 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:54.000 that you can do it is you take a powder 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:56.560 that is just the ground up flower. It is very 0:02:56.560 --> 0:02:59.240 hard to hurt yourself with just the powder. You would 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:01.840 have to take such a massive quantity of it. However, 0:03:02.160 --> 0:03:05.000 just like with marijuana, people now make extracts, and those 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:08.920 extracts are extremely concentrated. It is much easier to harm 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:11.560 yourself if you are using an extract or to take 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:15.160 much more than you want. Now, cretum an overdose does 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:17.320 not tend to like if you take far too much cretum, 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:20.120 it doesn't do what like heroin does and cause central 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:22.839 nervous system depression that'll stop you from breathing at least 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:24.639 not in any of the quantities that you know I've 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:28.400 seen documentation on, but it can be really bad and unpleasant. 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:30.280 So I would say, if you're going to do it, 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:33.839 do something like get a t stay away from the extracts. 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:35.880 Once you start going down that road, it's very easy 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:38.960 to develop much more of a dependency on it. That's 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:39.840 my cretum speech. 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:45.040 Okay, Robert, what's one episode you really want to do? 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:47.600 But require a fuck load of research and four million 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:49.560 episodes to cover the. 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:52.080 Bush administration and the war on a rack? And part 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:54.720 of why I haven't is just like it's been covered it. 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:57.160 I do think maybe now because there's a lot of 0:03:57.160 --> 0:03:59.960 like gen Z people who listen who maybe went around 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:03.560 for that, I'm probably overestimating how familiar people are with 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:06.040 the shit around that. So maybe that is the kind 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:08.120 of thing to get onto. Now. There's just so much 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:12.320 to talk about in so many bastards. But it's one 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:13.800 of those things I've gone back and forth. Should I 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:15.680 just do a John Ashcroft episode? Should I just do 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:17.799 a Dick Cheney episode? Well, how do you do that episode? 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:21.880 And then like not cover the rest of it. I 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:24.440 just have it yet, contact I just have it yet, 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:27.760 Like Nixon is the same way, and this was That's 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:29.520 not really an excuse what I just said, because the 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:32.479 same is true when talking about like Kissinger's crimes, because 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:36.479 those Kissinger episodes were also like partly Nixon episodes, because 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:39.360 you can't talk about what Kissinger did that was evil 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:42.240 without talking about a number of other evil guys. So 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:45.520 I will and should do that. It's just all episodes 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:47.679 like that are always so much work, and I've picked 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:50.919 by battles. Usually every now and then I will based 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:52.760 on like, oh, I think this is really important for 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:54.880 a specific reason to get out at this time right, 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:57.080 like a lot of the fascism focused ones we've done. 0:04:57.480 --> 0:04:59.640 But usually it's more like what do I want to 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:02.599 read it right now? What am I interested in? Because 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:04.800 if I don't do it that way, if I don't 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:07.400 let the primary thing that drives me week to week 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:10.440 be what do I want to read about and write about, 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:11.839 then I will burn out. 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:17.880 Sure, what episode are you most proud of from this year? 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:22.920 Uh? Probably the Lawrence of Arabia episodes. 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:25.719 Really good. I'm deeply proud of James Stout's series, and 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:26.760 it could happen here. 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:29.159 From talking about my episode, so we are. 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:32.320 But I'm just saying, okay, I'm deeply proud of James's 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:34.479 series that he did reporting from the Darien Gap. 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:37.640 From the Darien Gap excellent stuff. Yeah, yeah, some of 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:41.080 the best work anyone's done for us. I love those apps. 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:41.800 Yeah. 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:44.280 I also they were the hardest for me. But your 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:47.160 episodes on Troubled teen Wilderness Camps were. 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:51.520 Yeah, love me some troubled teen Wilderness camps. How did you. 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:54.000 Get from being a Texas rotc kid to an active 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:56.159 war zone journalist to a gas station drug reviewer an 0:05:56.160 --> 0:05:58.280 avid podcaster? Wow? 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:03.120 Wow, people say I love that. I guess there's a 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:05.720 few ways to talk about that. So, like the first thing, 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:07.480 I'll just note on the war zone stuff, people make 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:09.600 a much bigger deal of that, Like it comes up 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:12.400 because war comes up, and particularly some of the wars 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:14.479 that I've covered come up. So I bring it up 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:17.480 when I think it's relevant. But like becoming a war 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:20.320 zone journalist, no one paid me. I just bought plane 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:23.159 tickets to places and reached out to people who lived 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:26.360 in the area on the internet before I landed like 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:29.240 that's all. It was not like a I think people 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:31.560 talk about it as if there's some like special forces 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:33.159 training you've got to do, and no, I was just 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:36.200 like a guy who landed with his girlfriend and a 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:40.200 camera and that's how we did most of it until like, 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:43.040 you know, outside of like Syria and mean mar that's 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:45.880 how I did most of my war zone reporting. In 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:48.920 terms of like how I stopped being a conservative kid 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:51.320 from North Texas who wanted to be in the military, 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:54.280 I mean a lot of it was encountering drugs at 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:58.560 age nineteen and then also starting to make friends with 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:01.800 young women my age and slightly older than me, who 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:05.000 I realized were much more fun to spend time around 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:09.479 than the army. Sure, and yeah, all of that, you know, 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:14.320 kind of collaborated in a radicalization process, you know, not 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:16.240 even much of a wret just like stop me from 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:19.600 being like a proto fascist little kid. I was mostly 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:23.040 just sort of like in terms of temperament, a libertarian, 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:26.000 but I would always vote Democrat because the Republicans were 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:28.200 obviously maniacs. And I was just like, I don't agree 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:30.200 with the Democrats about everything, but I guess I'll vote 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:33.440 for them because these other people are crazy, and I 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:36.880 didn't really think a lot about politics until I mean, 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:41.960 it was Ukraine and following the Syrian refugee trail in 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:45.760 twenty fifteen and then Iraq in twenty sixteen and Standing 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:48.400 Rock in twenty sixteen. You know, I'd been at Occupy 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:50.600 in New York at twenty eleven for a little while, 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:53.240 but it was really I mean, Standing Rock was kind 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:56.400 of one of the most radicalizing single things I experienced 0:07:56.440 --> 0:08:00.360 where I started being like, I'm generally a progressive guests 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:03.960 with some libertarian tendencies to you know, And I wouldn't 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:06.080 say I was an anarchist at that, but I started 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:08.840 like reading more and thinking more and recognizing the like, well, 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:12.160 I agree with a lot of this analysis, you know, 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:15.480 more sure, it was still years before I really like 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:18.480 identified strongly in that direction. 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:20.760 Yeah. A couple of people kind of asked me with 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:24.440 my upbringing, how somebody said, like, basically, how did I 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:28.440 become in chargical zone media and like leftist podcasts? And 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:31.480 you know, the short of it is, I grew up 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:37.000 with a Republican dad, a moderate Democrat mom, and I 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:38.920 grew up in an area where most of the people 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:43.000 were your standard libs with a lot of a lot 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:48.840 of Zionism, honestly, and I think what radicalized me was 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:55.960 my insane empathy. I'm like a very very empathetic person. 0:08:56.400 --> 0:08:56.920 And so. 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:04.320 Consuming content and reading history and meeting people. It just 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:07.040 the more that I consumed and the more people I 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:10.320 got to meet, the more left I became. And I 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:14.040 feel like we approach a lot of our content from 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:19.760 a place of empathy, and that's the kind of things 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:22.199 I want to put out in the world. I got deep. 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:26.600 I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I got deep. 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:30.680 Yeah, I just obviously the people with the most money 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:33.280 in the world are the kind of folks who volunteer 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:36.920 at food not bombs, and you know, for their local libraries. 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:39.520 So I decided I wanted to really cash in on 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:40.200 that demo. 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:42.240 You know, yeah, for sure. 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:45.079 Those idiots like Ben Shapiro trying to get money from 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:48.360 broke oil billionaires, you know, it's the librarians who really 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:50.640 have walking around money. That's how you get rich. 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:52.880 And speaking of getting rich, it's time for. 0:09:52.840 --> 0:10:03.880 A yeah, and we're back, Robert Zovie. 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:07.960 How you doing, Oh, you know, pretty good. 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:09.400 It's cool. 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:12.600 Do you think that most of the USA's divisive issues 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:16.160 and over manipulated economy would be solved by breaking up 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:19.600 into smaller individual countries by region example North South. 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:23.200 Nah, Yeah, that sounds like a fucking disaster. Look up 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:26.640 the partitioning of India. Just look up the partitioning of India, 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:30.120 and then think about the fact that India was not 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:33.640 a massive part of the global economy as opposed to 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:37.720 something going the way the partition of India went in 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:40.880 terms of the violence, the death, the political upheaval, and 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:43.680 also it being the entire center of the world's economy 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:46.679 and a significant amount of it's like food and medicine, 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:49.120 And yeah, seems like it would be bad. 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:54.439 Robert favorite Warhammer Legion Legions characters. 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:57.000 Okay, so if we're talking about like they use the 0:10:57.080 --> 0:11:00.160 term Legion, so I assume they're talking about like Eat 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:04.920 Crusade through Horace Heresy era. Let's see. I really like 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:08.520 the paint scheme and the look of like the Legion 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:12.240 era Iron Warriors a lot, so I would have to 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:14.600 say from aesthetics them, but I don't really find any 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:18.160 of like the fiction that focuses on them particularly interesting. 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:19.960 And I guess then i'd have to go with like 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:24.720 Dark Angels or the Space Wolves yeah. 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:26.920 So when I asked the same person, ask my current 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:29.440 favorite hobby that's just for fun, Well, it happens to 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:33.480 be the NBA season, and I play fantasy basketball, and 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:34.040 I take it. 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:36.640 Very far or hammer for nerds as I call it. 0:11:36.840 --> 0:11:40.000 Sure, and I take it very seriously, and I love it. 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:41.839 I fucking love it. It's amazing she does. 0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:43.520 She's unhinged about it. 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:46.800 It frightens me, it does frighten him. And I got 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:49.120 Lebron on my team this year. As he gets older. 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:54.600 It just I needed him on my team one more time. Robert, 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:57.840 what's a journalism story that you didn't have to do 0:11:57.880 --> 0:11:59.840 your day job that you would love to cover? 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:07.320 If tomorrow Aliens came down and said, we're getting rid 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:10.320 of all of the fascism and authoritarianism and giving you 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:13.959 all free energy, fixing the climate, making sure every refugee 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:16.800 has food and water. There are no more problems. I 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:18.839 am going to spend the rest of my life trying 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:19.680 to kill Bigfoot. 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:24.360 This is not a question, but I've seen this a 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:27.280 couple of times. People want to know if you're going 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:29.000 to do any Australian bastards. 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:32.440 I don't think anyone in Australia's ever done anything bad. Yeah, 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:34.640 seems like an island that never made a bad person, 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:38.800 so not worth looking into. Probably, yeah, yeah, I assume 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:40.840 we will. It's just like there's a lot of countries 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:43.520 we haven't done bastards on sure, but definitely we will 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:46.280 get an Ausie. Don't worry, folks. Part of why I 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:48.400 haven't is the Dollup guys do such a good job 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:51.640 of hitting Australian weird pieces of shit, So I do 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:53.920 think there's a good place for people who like the 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:55.920 kind of thing I do to find that. The Dollup 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:58.200 has a lot of great fucked up Australia stories. 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:05.680 Any plans to do an OPRAH series or episodes. 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:06.719 Yeah, working on them now. 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:10.440 Yep. That was asked a couple times, Robert, what's your 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:11.640 favorite firearm? 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:13.960 I don't know, Like they all do such different things, 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:15.720 like in terms of the one I own, I guess, 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:19.200 the one that I shoot deer with, in terms of 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:22.720 like from a I guess emotional standpoint. The very first 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:25.160 gun I ever bought was a nineteen seventeen lee Enfield 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:29.600 Mark three, beautiful old World War One era bolt action rifle, 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:33.760 just like an actually attractive, like piece of history. I 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:36.600 have a Mouser C ninety six that is enjoyable for 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:40.040 the same reason, although not a gun that can safely 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:42.959 be used unless you are directly on a range, because 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:46.920 sometimes when you attempt to take it off safety, it fires, 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:48.480 so it is not allowed to be in the same 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:50.680 room as bullets unless we are at a gun range. 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:53.040 But is a very fun piece of history as well. 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:56.120 I really like the gun that I carry as he 0:13:56.240 --> 0:14:00.960 three sixty five XL sig sour great handgun, super comfortable, 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:04.520 super easy to conceal. I shoot it almost every week 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:07.360 and feel very comfortable with it. You know. I think 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:10.760 I could handle most of its basic functions in the 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:13.440 dark with my eyes closed, aside from aiming. I feel 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:15.960 good about that. In terms of like what I enjoy 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:20.120 shooting most recreationally, nothing beats in AK seventy four. I've 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:23.080 got an AK seventy four with a wooden four grip 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:28.280 and a wire folding stock. That thing is a hoot. 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:32.040 The people want to know how did we start cool 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:35.800 zone media? What's the cool zone media story? 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:39.960 Just kind of us constantly being behind on everything and 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:41.360 then it happened by accident. 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:43.960 No, that's not true. 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:48.200 I said that part of the genesis of it would 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:51.040 be that when a twenty twenty was going on, you 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:53.800 and I had not really envisioned much beyond you know, 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:56.760 we've got worst year ever, that's doing well, We've got 0:14:56.800 --> 0:14:58.360 Bastards that's doing well. 0:14:58.360 --> 0:14:59.760 We'd finish the Women's War. 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:02.440 Yeah, we're going to keep doing probably every year, we'll 0:15:02.480 --> 0:15:05.800 do one or two Robert will go travel somewhere or 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:09.400 two places, do one or two limited ten episode series, 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:12.720 and we'll keep doing Bastards, and you know, that'll be it. 0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:16.720 That'll be good. Then the riots happened, and one of 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:18.640 the things that occurred with that is, you know, I 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:21.960 covered that very heavily, both in terms of articles that 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:24.000 I wrote for a variety of publications, in terms of 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:25.960 stuff for you know what was at the time our 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:29.480 regular news show, and in Bastards. And by the end 0:15:29.520 --> 0:15:32.960 of the year, I was absolutely burnt out, and to 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:35.120 the extent that I became aware of like I won't 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:39.040 be able to do this the next time something big happens, 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:43.600 like enough of me has been spent, and also it 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:47.200 shouldn't be me, like all go crazy, all develop even 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:50.600 worse takes, like it's just bad, like one of the 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:52.040 things I have an issue with, and I'm not going 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:54.080 to like bring up names or critique people, but I 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:56.680 think it's always a mistake when you build a news 0:15:56.680 --> 0:16:02.840 network centered or like a news platform centered around a guy. 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:04.119 Yeah. 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:07.760 So what we were started talking, you know, late in 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:10.880 twenty twenty early twenty twenty one, and like, we need 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:14.080 to bring in other people and develop them and give 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:18.920 them platforms so that whatever the next big things are, 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:22.480 we have people who are able to cover them with 0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:27.760 the dedication they deserve without just burning me or another 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:31.120 individual person out by putting, you know, too much on 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:34.040 their shoulders at once. So that was kind of the 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:35.440 thinking that led us there. 0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:40.840 Yeah, and iHeartRadio asked us if we wanted to have 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:44.440 our own imprint, remember yeah, yeah. 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:46.400 Oh yeah, I mean, And then the company was like, hey, 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:49.560 we'll offer you more money if you do this thing 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:52.360 that sounds like a nightmare and have a daily news show. 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:53.880 Hey, you want to make a daily show? 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:57.120 And we said I would rather kill myself. And then 0:16:57.120 --> 0:16:59.240 they said, but you can hire your friends, and then 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:01.200 we said, well, actually that sounds a lot better. 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:04.720 They were like, hey, you've been pumping out content multiple 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:06.720 times a day for the last year at was just 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:10.680 like end of twenty twenty early twenty twenty one. They're like, hey, 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:13.840 you've been doing this thing. Want to do it times 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:18.159 a million? Yeah, that seems healthy. We did, but we 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:21.240 got to hire a bunch of our friends and that's nice. 0:17:21.400 --> 0:17:23.359 And you know a lot of the people we love 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:26.639 have salaries and health insurance. So a win is a 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:33.879 fucking win. It's sun for fucking ads. Okay, we're back. 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:37.800 I've got a lot of people asking your how you 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:42.040 approach research and how you format your episodes. If you 0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:47.480 have a template, if you put something into I know 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:49.200 the answer to this, which is why you're half smiling. 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:53.159 If you make some kind of a guide for your episodes, 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:54.880 or yeah, your process. 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:57.320 The gist of it is, I have a doc I 0:17:57.440 --> 0:17:59.720 read through. So first, if there's a book, and they're 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:01.680 usually are more than one book, I read through the 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:04.080 book or relevant portions of the book. Sometimes you don't 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:05.760 have to read the whole book because you know, it 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:08.240 just deals with your guy for a couple of chapters, 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:11.880 and I highlight shit, I copy and paste the highlighted shit, 0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:14.920 and I organize it by generally, if I have my 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:18.199 shit together, and I will have like a childhood, you know, 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:23.199 young adulthood, early career, major crimes, YadA, YadA, YadA, and 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:25.800 I'll paste in the different parts, you know, with a 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:27.840 list of like which source it's from. And I do 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:31.160 the same thing with like highlighted and cut and pasted 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:35.119 portions of articles, and I organize that by timeframe. And 0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:37.600 then I have that doc in one window and I 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:42.160 have a word doc in the other, and I go 0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:44.920 through it and I like write it. I look through like, okay, 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:46.760 it's early life. Here's all the different sources on his 0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:49.399 early life here, and I look through them and I'm like, 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:51.400 these are the different things that I find most interesting 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:53.560 from every source, and I just kind of write them 0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:55.560 out in the way that makes sense. I try to 0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:58.040 make sure I quote every source that gives me a 0:18:58.040 --> 0:19:00.560 significant amount of info one or more time, so that 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:04.159 I'm making it very clear this is where the original 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:06.960 info came from, because I'm very rarely doing all of 0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:10.040 the original research on these guys. So I want to 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:13.040 make it clear that, like, you know, if i'm you know, 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:15.760 this portion where I'm talking about this part of his life, 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:17.960 it you know, generally came mostly from this source or 0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:20.119 for this source and this source right, you know, that's 0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:21.320 how I try to do it. 0:19:21.840 --> 0:19:25.840 Robert, what's your favorite animal and or dinosaur? 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:31.000 My favorite dinosaur was always an iguanadon. Big iguanadon, guy, 0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:36.520 huge iguanadon fan. Love them, love them because like it's 0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:39.760 the dinosaur equivalent of like a fucking Guido pull in 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:42.679 a switchblade in a New York alley. Like that's just 0:19:42.880 --> 0:19:46.400 cool that there were dinosaurs who had that vibe where 0:19:46.440 --> 0:19:49.639 they're just like, hey, motherfucker, I'm just gonna cut your ass. 0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:53.000 You know I love a fucking iguanadon. Look them up, 0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:56.520 big sharp knife thumbs, cool dinosaur. 0:19:57.240 --> 0:19:58.880 Robert, what's your favorite part about working? 0:19:58.880 --> 0:20:00.760 So it's okay for me to say I'm a Guido. 0:20:00.800 --> 0:20:02.919 I think I'm allowed to say Guido. Yeah, I have 0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:06.800 no idea I'm allowed to say Guido, Robert. Look at 0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:08.760 how Italian I am. Look At how much of a 0:20:08.880 --> 0:20:11.200 unibrow I grow if I don't shave for a day 0:20:11.240 --> 0:20:13.639 and a half. Look I get to say Guido. Okay, 0:20:14.600 --> 0:20:16.640 I have to deal with all this grease in my hair. 0:20:16.800 --> 0:20:19.960 I get to say Guido. I'm allowed. You don't know me. 0:20:20.240 --> 0:20:22.600 I have no sayas Robert, what's your favorite part about 0:20:22.600 --> 0:20:24.520 working with Sophie? That is an actual question. 0:20:25.280 --> 0:20:27.000 Oh, you're my favorite part of it. I guess that 0:20:27.240 --> 0:20:30.439 you know what you're doing and handle all of the 0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:34.680 things that I would never be able to handle. That. Yeah, 0:20:34.840 --> 0:20:36.800