WEBVTT - It Could Happen Here Weekly 99

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everybody, Robert Evans here and I wanted to let

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<v Speaker 1>you know this is a compilation episode. So every episode

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<v Speaker 1>of the week that just happened is here in one

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<v Speaker 1>convenient and with somewhat less ads package for you to

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<v Speaker 1>listen to in a long stretch if you want. If

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<v Speaker 1>you've been listening to the episodes every day this week,

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<v Speaker 1>there's going to be nothing new here for you, but

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<v Speaker 1>you can make your own decisions.

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<v Speaker 2>About twenty years ago, maybe thirty, a circus fitted to Majorro,

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<v Speaker 2>the largest island on the Madro Atoll, in the capital

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<v Speaker 2>city of the Marshall Islands. They came to Major as

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<v Speaker 2>almost everything that isn't breadfruit, pandanas or fish does on

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<v Speaker 2>a boat. After performing, they couldn't find a boat to

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<v Speaker 2>take them to their next destination, and so the resident

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<v Speaker 2>tiny island, which at times is no wider than the

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<v Speaker 2>single road which travels its whole length, decided that they'd

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<v Speaker 2>have to share the food that they themselves had imported

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<v Speaker 2>a great cost, and they set about gathering apples, bananas,

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<v Speaker 2>and anything else that they thought an elephant might like

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<v Speaker 2>to eat while it waited for a way off an

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<v Speaker 2>island that barely has enough room for its own people,

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<v Speaker 2>let alone the largest land animal on earth. The people

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<v Speaker 2>of the Marshall Islands, for whom hospitality is as natural

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<v Speaker 2>as the times of the sea, greet each other the

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<v Speaker 2>same way they do strangers by saying yo quai. The

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<v Speaker 2>word has several meanings, but I'll let David Kabua explain them.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the President of the Republic of the Marshal Islands,

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<v Speaker 2>so he seems like he'd be a good source.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say the word yupik yupe is treating word

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<v Speaker 3>yabuey has a lot of several meanings, and you can't

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<v Speaker 3>say when you meet someone first time, you say yaguey

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<v Speaker 3>when you greet someone, and when you also say goodbye,

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<v Speaker 3>instead of say good bye, you also yuh pay, So

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<v Speaker 3>it's you can't use that. Also, like during the weekend

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<v Speaker 3>there was a tournament, fishing tournament, and if you were

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<v Speaker 3>fishing and you got it. You have a big fish

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<v Speaker 3>on the land and you really m you're about to

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<v Speaker 3>land the fish.

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<v Speaker 4>But the land's not.

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<v Speaker 3>So what do you say, said, oh, yeah, way, hello

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<v Speaker 3>to the fish, But you just say yeah because you

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<v Speaker 3>lost the pig catch. So it can't be used that way.

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<v Speaker 3>Like when you lose someone or someone passed away. You've

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<v Speaker 3>missed that. Yeh way, so and so he was here

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<v Speaker 3>but no one could hear. So we can say yeh pay.

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<v Speaker 3>So it has several meanings, but the deeper meaning of

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<v Speaker 3>yapay is you are beautiful like the rainbow. Yeah means

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<v Speaker 3>rainbow and ways.

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<v Speaker 5>So we combine the two words.

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<v Speaker 6>You are a rainbow.

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<v Speaker 3>You goombool as are.

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<v Speaker 2>On the map. The Marshall Islands look like the little

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<v Speaker 2>dots that appear in my photos of the beach at Marjiro.

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<v Speaker 2>But unlike those little specks of dust that manage to

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<v Speaker 2>sneak their way onto my camera center, Marshall Islands belong here.

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<v Speaker 2>Here is a pretty vague turn. The twenty nine coral

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<v Speaker 2>atolls and five islands that allow fifty four thousand Marshal

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<v Speaker 2>Eies to live on one hundred and eighty two square

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<v Speaker 2>kilometers of land span an oceanic territory of two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>thousand kilometers. It's like you took a small American town

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<v Speaker 2>and scattered it across an area more than a half

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<v Speaker 2>times the size of Alaska. Even though the RMI is

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<v Speaker 2>ninety eight percent water, every inch of land is precious

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<v Speaker 2>to the marshal Eies, whose matrilineal society ensures that land

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<v Speaker 2>passes from mother to daughter and ties families to the

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<v Speaker 2>remote islands that make up the low lying atolls of

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<v Speaker 2>the Republic. It was on one of the bigger chunks

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<v Speaker 2>of land that I recorded the music you heard a

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<v Speaker 2>minute ago. Marjoro is an atoll that's a coral ring

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<v Speaker 2>that encircles the lagoon and its biggest islands. About thirty

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<v Speaker 2>miles long but often less than one hundred yards wide.

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<v Speaker 2>There's one road that runs the length of it and

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes also spans the width of it. It's also home

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<v Speaker 2>to about half the Urmis population. The highest point on

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<v Speaker 2>the atoll lies just three meters above sea level. If

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<v Speaker 2>you want to get higher than that, then your only

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<v Speaker 2>options are houses or palm trees. From the top of

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<v Speaker 2>the fifth floor of the NAPA Auto Parts Store, which

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<v Speaker 2>also houses the UNDP and the marshal Owns Olympic Committee,

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<v Speaker 2>you can see the whole island. For Marshallese people, these

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<v Speaker 2>tiny pieces of paradise that barely poke their heads out

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<v Speaker 2>from the top of the ocean are everything. Their land

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<v Speaker 2>and their ties to it define them. Without their place,

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<v Speaker 2>they can't be themselves. Even though many thousands of Marshales

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<v Speaker 2>live in the diasper of the United States, they still

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<v Speaker 2>important handicrafts made from little shells and the outer islands

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<v Speaker 2>and coconut husks. Many of them come back to the

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<v Speaker 2>islands to retire, but slowly the ocean is taking those

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<v Speaker 2>islands back. Rising sea levels and more extreme tidal surges

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<v Speaker 2>have placed this tiny Pacific nation on the front lines

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<v Speaker 2>of climate change. There isn't an exact estimate as to

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<v Speaker 2>how long the Marshall Islands have or what they can

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<v Speaker 2>do to halt the creeping advance of the ocean. They've

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<v Speaker 2>always existed on just a few square kilometers of land

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<v Speaker 2>among millions of square kilometers of ocean, and they depend

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<v Speaker 2>on that ocean for everything. But now it's threatening to

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<v Speaker 2>take everything away from them one day. They fear their

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<v Speaker 2>islands will become uninhabitable. A salt water invads of water

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<v Speaker 2>table and their trees die, while storms bring more and

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<v Speaker 2>more frequent floods that sweep away their homes and their possessions.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't want to leave, but they can't stand alone

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<v Speaker 2>against climate change either. But the marshally Is are resilient people.

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<v Speaker 2>They've weathered many storms to get to where they are now.

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<v Speaker 2>The tiny museum in Maduro artifacts of several crises that

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<v Speaker 2>would seem apocalyptic, a nuclear bomb, the Second World War,

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<v Speaker 2>But in the end these did little de cruss the

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<v Speaker 2>incredible kindness of the tenacity of the Marshals. The islands

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<v Speaker 2>that make up the Aramai have been inhabited by indigenous

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<v Speaker 2>people for thousands of years, and they've been variously ruled

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<v Speaker 2>by the Spanish, German, Japanese, and United States governments before

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<v Speaker 2>becoming an independent republic. Before they were named by a

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<v Speaker 2>British sailor, the islands had their own name. I'll let

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff a Marshal's renaissance man who was at once a driver,

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<v Speaker 2>the head of the World Health Organization's EMT program on

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<v Speaker 2>the islands, a registered nurse, and the custodians an incredible

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<v Speaker 2>collection of Marshalise music explained what they were called before that, or.

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<v Speaker 7>Before I used to call La la la la larali like.

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<v Speaker 6>El or el.

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<v Speaker 7>Nahli l o lp lap laps.

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<v Speaker 8>Before it turn out turns into Marshall. Because this work

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<v Speaker 8>Marshall games from this guy oh abound these islands.

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<v Speaker 2>Captain Marshall undeniably, the Marshall Islands are not a bad

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<v Speaker 2>place to find yourself on a summer afternoon, and in

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<v Speaker 2>the time I spent there, I took several trips to

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<v Speaker 2>the smaller islands around madro Atoll. They look like the

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<v Speaker 2>Platonic idea of a tropical island, complete with coconut palms,

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<v Speaker 2>vibrant coral reefs, white sand, and turquoise water. I love

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<v Speaker 2>free diving and dropping down onto a wrecked aircraft and

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<v Speaker 2>dozens of brightly colored species of fish in almost infinite

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<v Speaker 2>visibility without even needing to put on a wet sue

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<v Speaker 2>or a weight belt. Might be the closest I'll ever

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<v Speaker 2>get to flying. But I wasn't just here for a

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<v Speaker 2>dip in the ocean. I'm actually here to tell you

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<v Speaker 2>a story of incredible resilience. Much of a America, both

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<v Speaker 2>on the left and on the right, spends much of

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<v Speaker 2>its time and money preparing for its own imagined version

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<v Speaker 2>of the crisis. For some, that's the unimaginable destruction of

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<v Speaker 2>nuclear war. For others, it's the encroaching of the ocean

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<v Speaker 2>on it's the land and a resulting loss of places

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<v Speaker 2>to live and grow food and for others. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>collapse of basic services like power and clean water that

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<v Speaker 2>we take for granted. These are all storms. So the

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<v Speaker 2>tiny island nation who hath already weathered, and it hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>done so in the atomized and individualistic way that so

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<v Speaker 2>many American preppers fantasize about online. It's done so as

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<v Speaker 2>an incredibly strong, optimistic, and welcoming community. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>we can learn from the people of the Marshal Islands

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<v Speaker 2>and their story, and so this week I'll be doing

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<v Speaker 2>my best to share the stories that they shared with me.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're familiar with the islands, it's likely because of

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<v Speaker 2>the history of one of the other atolls in the group,

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<v Speaker 2>Bikini Atoll. The name is the German bastardization of a

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<v Speaker 2>Marshal Lese word pikini pick meaning plain surface, and knee

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<v Speaker 2>meaning coconut tree. It's a flat base where coconuts grew,

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<v Speaker 2>but you likely don't know the island for its coconuts,

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<v Speaker 2>and those aren't safe to eat anymore anyway. If you've

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<v Speaker 2>heard of Bikinia Toll, it's because of what the United

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<v Speaker 2>States did there after the Second World War On the

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<v Speaker 2>eighteenth of July and nineteen forty seven, the Marshall Islands

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<v Speaker 2>were placed in a Strategic Trust Territory by the United Nations.

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<v Speaker 2>This territory was administered by the United States, which are

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to administer the islands in the best interest of

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<v Speaker 2>their inhabitants out of international peace and security. But a

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<v Speaker 2>year before the trust territory was created, the US began

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<v Speaker 2>nuclear testing in the lagoon at Bikinia Toll, a site

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<v Speaker 2>that would, over the next fifteen years, become the most

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<v Speaker 2>heavily bombed place on Earth, with some islands entirely removed

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<v Speaker 2>from the map and much of their population left dead sick,

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<v Speaker 2>without the land that defines them and their ability to

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<v Speaker 2>thrive on these ti iny islands amidst the endless ocean.

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<v Speaker 2>As far as possible, I want to let the marshal

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<v Speaker 2>Ease survivors of the nuclear tests and their families tell

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<v Speaker 2>their own stories. They call what happened on Bikini and

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<v Speaker 2>Awatakatoll the nuclear legacy of their country. Talking about the

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<v Speaker 2>nuclear legacy is a difficult topic for the marshal Eise,

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<v Speaker 2>especially the time when none of them have been paid

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<v Speaker 2>the compensation they were allotted, and the US was negotiating

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<v Speaker 2>a new agreement with the Marshalise government. It was very

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<v Speaker 2>far from settled and the numbers of the US were

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<v Speaker 2>offering were very far from sufficient. I was very fortunate

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<v Speaker 2>to join a few other journalists on the tiny island

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<v Speaker 2>of boken Bowton, a short boat ride away from Mitro

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<v Speaker 2>and home to perhaps most beautiful coral reef I've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 2>We had lunch, walked around the island and then had

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<v Speaker 2>a talk on the nuclear legacy from descendants of some

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<v Speaker 2>of the survivors. I'll let them introduce themselves.

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<v Speaker 9>My name is Zachabkivion.

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<v Speaker 10>I'm from the Marshall Island.

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<v Speaker 11>I am a student at CMI car Chacta Marshall Allen,

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<v Speaker 11>and I am currently the president for the CMI Nuclear Club,

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<v Speaker 11>which we mostly work under National Nuclear Commission with with

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<v Speaker 11>our director Mary Suck and our Commissioner Arianna.

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<v Speaker 12>All Reat.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 14>Well, once again, my name is Ariana teven Kilima. I

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<v Speaker 14>work as a Commissioner and Nuclear Justice Envoy for the

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<v Speaker 14>RMI National Nuclear Commission.

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<v Speaker 13>Him.

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<v Speaker 14>Once again, thank you very much for having us this afternoon.

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<v Speaker 15>Yooel, welcome to the Marshall Allen. My name is Evelyn Ralpho.

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<v Speaker 15>I'm the Director for Education and Public Awareness. Once again, welcome,

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<v Speaker 15>enjoy the rese of your days here.

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<v Speaker 9>Well that my name is Sincretin Pernett.

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<v Speaker 16>I work with the National Nuclear Commission as an admin

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<v Speaker 16>and physical officer.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm not sure if it's necessary for me to come.

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<v Speaker 16>But since the past that we all go, so that's

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<v Speaker 16>important support the plastic work on the same boat in

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<v Speaker 16>the Martiall Islands.

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<v Speaker 15>She's from Mayata, She's from Yeah.

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<v Speaker 14>The three of us are all descendants of nuclear survivors.

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<v Speaker 14>They were exposed to fall out. Her mother was exposed

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<v Speaker 14>to fall out. Her mother, Grace's mother was also exposed

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<v Speaker 14>to the radioactive fallout, as well as my great grandfather.

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<v Speaker 14>I think that's what really drives us to share.

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<v Speaker 9>This with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Almost everyone in the RMI has a family member directly

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<v Speaker 2>impacted by the testing and the decade of mistreatment that

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<v Speaker 2>came after it. Although we know the name Bikinia Toll,

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<v Speaker 2>the entire republic was impacted by nuclear fallout, including Mardro itself,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks to the elevised decision to drop bombs on a

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<v Speaker 2>day when the populated atolls were downwind of the test site,

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<v Speaker 2>in fact, right next to our hotel. Showing the same

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<v Speaker 2>parking lot. There's the US Department of Energy office. What

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<v Speaker 2>that was doing there?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 17>I saw there's a diary office like health office in

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<v Speaker 17>the street here, the one in.

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<v Speaker 7>The next to the auto, that's the office where they

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<v Speaker 7>do the radiation testing. And there's the one near the

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<v Speaker 7>Ami Marshall that's the clinic for those survivors. Now, the survivors,

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<v Speaker 7>there's few of them life like, maybe less than fifty.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>The RMI is still fighting in the Second World War.

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<v Speaker 2>It's memorialized in murals across Marjorro. In nineteen forty three

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<v Speaker 2>and early nineteen forty four, the USA bombed and then

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<v Speaker 2>fought the Imperial Japanese military who have been occupying the

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<v Speaker 2>island since nineteen fourteen. US soldiers and marines, along with

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<v Speaker 2>marsh Ley's scouts, landed on Marjorro Quadulan in anywhere thout

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<v Speaker 2>on Higgins boat that were virtually identical to the boat

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<v Speaker 2>we took across the lagoon to Bocan Boton. The fighting

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<v Speaker 2>was fierce and the scale of the destruction metz. Overall,

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<v Speaker 2>the Americans lost six hundred and eleven men and suffered

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand, three hundred and forty one wounded, two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and sixty one were missing. Meanwhile, the Japanese lost over

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<v Speaker 2>eleven thousand men and had three hundred and fifty eight captured. Today,

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<v Speaker 2>the Bikinia Toll Lagoon still holds the ghostly remains of

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<v Speaker 2>the ships and plains that fought that battle, alongside the Nagato,

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<v Speaker 2>the flagship of the Imperial Japanese Navy, and the ship

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<v Speaker 2>from whose bridge Admiral Yamamoto launched the attack on Pearl Harbour.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a shadow of this war that was evoked

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen forty six when one hundred and sixty seven

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<v Speaker 2>a Bikini A Tolls inhabitants were forcibly relocated by the

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<v Speaker 2>United States. They initially accepted this settlement quote for the

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<v Speaker 2>good of mankind and to end all wars, in the

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<v Speaker 2>words of the US commandant at the time. Assisted by U. S.

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<v Speaker 2>Navy seabees, they disassembled their church and moved to different atolls.

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<v Speaker 2>Nine of the eleven family heads from Bikini elected to

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<v Speaker 2>be transported one hundred and twenty five miles to rong

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<v Speaker 2>gric Atoll, an island with about one quarter of the

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<v Speaker 2>land mass of Bikini Atoll. Many believed the island to

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<v Speaker 2>be haunted. By the time the navy left them with

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<v Speaker 2>a few weeks of water and food, they had every

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<v Speaker 2>reason to be afraid. I let Ariana explain what that

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<v Speaker 2>removal process was like.

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<v Speaker 14>They had asked the people if they were willing to

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<v Speaker 14>give up their homelands for the good of mankind and

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<v Speaker 14>to end all wars. And because our people are people

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<v Speaker 14>of faith in Christianity, they and they were very afraid.

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<v Speaker 13>They did not want to leave.

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<v Speaker 14>But because of the amount of power that the military

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<v Speaker 14>showed up with with their big ships compared to our

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<v Speaker 14>small canoes, and the amount of troops that were on

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<v Speaker 14>that island on that morning, it was very hard for

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<v Speaker 14>them to fight against what was being.

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<v Speaker 13>Asked of them.

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<v Speaker 14>And if you have time to look through documentaries of

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<v Speaker 14>the nuclear legacy, you will see a certain part where

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<v Speaker 14>the commander, a commodore, his name was Ben Wyatt. He

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<v Speaker 14>was sitting down and asking the chief at that time,

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<v Speaker 14>can we use this island for the good of mankind?

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<v Speaker 14>And in response, the people all respond in unison elmn,

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<v Speaker 14>which means okay. And from their testimonies, they had to

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<v Speaker 14>take that shot over forty times to make sure that

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<v Speaker 14>you know they all said MMn at the same time,

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<v Speaker 14>to get the best shot they could for you know,

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<v Speaker 14>maybe for reports to the UN. But it was a

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<v Speaker 14>very frustrating time for them.

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<v Speaker 2>Following their removal, the testing began. The idea was to

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<v Speaker 2>test nuclear bombs on ships. To the US bought ninety

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<v Speaker 2>five ships fully loaded with weapons and fuel. At this time,

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<v Speaker 2>this would have ranked the a Bikinia told just outside

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<v Speaker 2>the top five biggest fleets in the world, but those

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<v Speaker 2>boats didn't stay afloat for long. Now you might think that,

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<v Speaker 2>given the testing was on ships, the atoll's navy would

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<v Speaker 2>be some kind of mid century Mary Celeste, but you'd

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<v Speaker 2>be wrong. Three hundred and fifty experimental rats, goats, and

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<v Speaker 2>pigs died in the service as its strange nuclear experiment,

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<v Speaker 2>some of them after being subjected to the great indignity

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<v Speaker 2>of being covered in sunscreen, which bizarrely scientists thought might

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<v Speaker 2>be useful in alleviating the impact of radiation. It's rather

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<v Speaker 2>staggering that this research was being done three years after

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<v Speaker 2>the United States dropped nuclear bombs on whole cities full

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<v Speaker 2>of human beings. But as you've maybe already picked up

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<v Speaker 2>in this story, the possibility of unintended but entirely predictable

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<v Speaker 2>human suffering does not seem to have been top of

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<v Speaker 2>the priority list. The first test of the island somehow misfired.

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<v Speaker 2>The gathered press would disappointed, and many of them went home,

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<v Speaker 2>But the second, codenamed Baker didn't. Chemist Glen t Seborg,

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<v Speaker 2>the longest serving chairman of the Atomic Energy Commission, called

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<v Speaker 2>the Baker test the world's first nuclear disaster. It drove

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<v Speaker 2>a two thousand foot wide pillar of water into the air.

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<v Speaker 2>It sunk the USS Arkansas, and released massive amounts of

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<v Speaker 2>radiation across the islands of the atoll, which at the

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<v Speaker 2>time the residents had been expecting to return to. Just

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<v Speaker 2>five days after the first bomb went off, Louis Road,

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<v Speaker 2>a French mechanical engineer who was working as manager of

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<v Speaker 2>his mother's lingerie shop in Paris, introduced a new swimsuit

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<v Speaker 2>designed named the Bikini after the atoll. It was one

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<v Speaker 2>wright equipped the atom bomb of fashion. The people of

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<v Speaker 2>the atoll, however, gained little from the outfit or the testing.

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<v Speaker 2>January of nineteen forty eight, just two years after their removal,

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<v Speaker 2>doctor Leonard Mason visited the Bikinians on Rongerik and was

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<v Speaker 2>appalled to find the people there had almost starved to death.

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<v Speaker 2>We were dying, but they didn't listen to us, one

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<v Speaker 2>of them said to him. Mason, an anthropologist at the

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<v Speaker 2>University of WAYI asked that food and water be bought immediately.

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<v Speaker 2>The US built houses for Bikiniatol residents on Ujilangatol, but

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<v Speaker 2>it decided to use these for the residents of Aniwata Katol,

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<v Speaker 2>where it was also about to begin conducting nuclear experiments. Instead.

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<v Speaker 2>The Bikini Islanders were placed in tents alongside a runway

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<v Speaker 2>before they eventually chose Kille Island, a line of less

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<v Speaker 2>than one square kilometer, as their next home. Also evacuated

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<v Speaker 2>where Aniwata, Krangalap and Warthaw islanders. They too, thought this

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<v Speaker 2>was a temporary arrangement and that they could go home

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<v Speaker 2>in a short period of time. They too, found out

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<v Speaker 2>later that this was not the case. Over the course

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<v Speaker 2>of their exile, they've been moved several more times, staffed

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<v Speaker 2>half to death, cheated of their compensation, and stripped to

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<v Speaker 2>their ancestral homeland. For the next twelve years, the United

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<v Speaker 2>States would drop increasingly large bombs, culminating in nineteen fifty

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<v Speaker 2>four with the Bravo Shot of Operation Castle, also known

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<v Speaker 2>as Castle Bravo, the biggest nuclear device that we know

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<v Speaker 2>of the US ever deploying.

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<v Speaker 14>Within those twelve years, there were sixty seven known devices

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<v Speaker 14>that were tested here. There could have been more, but

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<v Speaker 14>all we know of is sixty seven. One of them

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<v Speaker 14>was the Castle Bravo shat that yielded fifteen megatons, which,

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<v Speaker 14>when sciences calculated the equivalent of the Bravo shat, would

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<v Speaker 14>have required testing the Hiroshima bomb one and a half

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<v Speaker 14>times every single day for twelve years.

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<v Speaker 2>That fifteen megaton Bravo shot yielded more than two point

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<v Speaker 2>five times the estimated six megaton explosion. When it was

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<v Speaker 2>detonated on an artificial island in the Bikinia Toll, the

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<v Speaker 2>device's mushroom cloud reached a height of forty seven thousand feet,

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<v Speaker 2>which is fourteen hundred meters, and a diameter of seven

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<v Speaker 2>miles or eleven kilometers in about one minute. Eventually it

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<v Speaker 2>reached a height of forty kilometers and a diameter of

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred kilometers. This took less than ten minutes, traveled

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<v Speaker 2>more than one hundred meters per second, and covered seven

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<v Speaker 2>thousand kilometers of the Pacific Ocean and everything in it

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<v Speaker 2>with nuclear fallout. On the eve of the Bravo shot,

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<v Speaker 2>weather reports indicated that the quote conditions were getting less favorable,

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<v Speaker 2>but nonetheless a decision to go ahead with the first

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<v Speaker 2>test was taken by Alvin Sea Graves jointed task for

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<v Speaker 2>seven ships located thirty miles east of Bikini, and what

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<v Speaker 2>was thought to be an upwin position began detecting high

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<v Speaker 2>levels of radiation just two hours after the test. Very

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<v Speaker 2>soon after, they began traveling south at full speed to

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<v Speaker 2>avoid the fall out, but directly down wind to the

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<v Speaker 2>blast and unable to travel were wrong. A lap and

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<v Speaker 2>A Lingeni Atolls Arianna explained the impact to fall out there,

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<v Speaker 2>which residents were not warned about. American services people there

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<v Speaker 2>want to stay inside, not eat or drink anything, but

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<v Speaker 2>no such warning was given to the local residents.

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<v Speaker 14>Some said it looked like the sky was changing colors

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<v Speaker 14>from red to yellow to orange. It was just a

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<v Speaker 14>very very bright morning, and then they started hearing like

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<v Speaker 14>thunderous roars a couple of minutes later, and it was

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<v Speaker 14>just like roars after wars, and it was a very

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<v Speaker 14>frightening time. Because this was just not something you know,

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<v Speaker 14>does not happen every day. And then around ten am,

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<v Speaker 14>the fallout.

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<v Speaker 13>Had started to arrive.

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<v Speaker 14>And these are counts from rongolap at All, which is

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<v Speaker 14>the closest to Bikini. The fallout had started to arrive

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<v Speaker 14>and they were not sure what was going on.

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<v Speaker 13>There was men out fishing.

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<v Speaker 14>There was also stories from these witnesses that prior to

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<v Speaker 14>this test, the military had gone to and they had

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<v Speaker 14>movie nights and they would show the community of movies

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<v Speaker 14>where it's snowing.

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<v Speaker 2>Tomorrow we'll hear more about the consequences of the Bravo

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<v Speaker 2>shop for the people who, despite never having any quarrel

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<v Speaker 2>with the USA, with the recipient of the largest nuclear

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<v Speaker 2>bomb it's ever decimated. The music you just heard was

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<v Speaker 2>the anthem of Bikinia Toll, sung at their church on

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<v Speaker 2>Kille Island in nineteen ninety seven. The words translators follows,

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<v Speaker 2>no longer can I stay It's true? No longer can

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<v Speaker 2>I live in peace and harmony? No longer can I

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<v Speaker 2>rest on my sleeping matt pillow Because of my island

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<v Speaker 2>and the life I once knew there. The thought is overwhelming,

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<v Speaker 2>rendering me helpless and in great despair, my spirit leaves

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<v Speaker 2>drifting around and far away, where it becomes caught in

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<v Speaker 2>a current of immense power, and only then do I

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<v Speaker 2>find tranquility. B has a flag as well. It looks

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<v Speaker 2>a lot like the US flag, but in the top

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<v Speaker 2>left blue rectangle you'll only find twenty three white stars.

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<v Speaker 2>They represent the islands of Bikinia Toll. The three black

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<v Speaker 2>stars and the upper right of the flag represent the

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<v Speaker 2>three islands that were vaporized by the March first, nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>fifty four fifteen megatine hydrogen bomb blast codenamed Bravo. The

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<v Speaker 2>two black stars in the lower right hand corner represent

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<v Speaker 2>where the Bikinians live now, Killy Island, four hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five miles to the south of Bikinia Toll, an

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<v Speaker 2>egypt island on the Majuro Atoll. These two stars are

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<v Speaker 2>symbolically far away from Bikini stars on the flag, as

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<v Speaker 2>the islands are far away in real life, both in

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<v Speaker 2>distance and in terms of quality of life. The Marshallese

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<v Speaker 2>words running across the bottom of the flag men o

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<v Speaker 2>temzj regi elo benonije translate to everything is in the

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<v Speaker 2>hands of God. These represent the words spoken in nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>forty six by the Bikinian Lee Judah to the US

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<v Speaker 2>commodore Ben Wyatt when the American went to Bikini to

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<v Speaker 2>us the islanders on a Sunday after they'd just been

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<v Speaker 2>to church to give up their islands for the good

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<v Speaker 2>of all mankind so the US could test nuclear weapons there.

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<v Speaker 2>The close resemblance of the Bikinians flag to the flag

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<v Speaker 2>of the United States, it's to remind the people and

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<v Speaker 2>the government of the USA that a great debt is

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<v Speaker 2>still owed by them to the people of Bikini. In

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<v Speaker 2>today's episode, I want to pick up where we left

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<v Speaker 2>off yesterday in the hours after the Bravo shot. Here's

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<v Speaker 2>Ariana again.

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<v Speaker 14>And so when that fallout had arrived, the children, you know,

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<v Speaker 14>they remember that they saw it in these movie nights.

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<v Speaker 14>They thought it was snow and they were playing in

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<v Speaker 14>this fallout. And then later on that day they started

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<v Speaker 14>to realize that this was maybe poisonous.

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<v Speaker 13>They just were not sure.

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<v Speaker 14>But by midnight that night, the people were not able

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<v Speaker 14>to move around as much. They were suffering dramatically. Their

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<v Speaker 14>stomachs were churning, their hair had started to fall out,

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<v Speaker 14>their skin was peeling off, and like. They said, it

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<v Speaker 14>was so itchy, and when they would scratch, the skin

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<v Speaker 14>just peels off as they scratched. And the fish that

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<v Speaker 14>the men were out fishing for when they had came

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<v Speaker 14>back that evening to eat, when they ate the fish,

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<v Speaker 14>they said it was like they were just munching on sand.

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<v Speaker 2>Johanna Jeanne, the mayor of rong Lapatol, gave an interview

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen seventy seven recounting his experience with the fallout.

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<v Speaker 4>It fell on me, It fell on my wife, It

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<v Speaker 4>fell on my infant son. It fell on the trees

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<v Speaker 4>and on the roofs of our houses. It fell onto

0:27:42.680 --> 0:27:45.960
<v Speaker 4>the reefs and into the lagoon. We were very curious

0:27:46.000 --> 0:27:49.440
<v Speaker 4>about this ash falling from the sky. Some people put

0:27:49.480 --> 0:27:52.560
<v Speaker 4>it in their mouths and tasted it. One man rubbed

0:27:52.560 --> 0:27:54.600
<v Speaker 4>it into his eye to see if it would cure

0:27:54.640 --> 0:27:58.159
<v Speaker 4>an old ailment. People walked in it and children played

0:27:58.160 --> 0:27:58.440
<v Speaker 4>in it.

0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:02.600
<v Speaker 2>Later, people on Utrech Atoll experienced the fallout as missed

0:28:03.000 --> 0:28:07.119
<v Speaker 2>minich Kel. One resident of the atoll, said that quote,

0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:09.760
<v Speaker 2>several of my babies, who were healthy at the time

0:28:09.800 --> 0:28:13.720
<v Speaker 2>they were born, died before they were a year old. Altogether,

0:28:14.040 --> 0:28:17.840
<v Speaker 2>I lost four babies. My son, Wynton, was born one

0:28:17.960 --> 0:28:20.800
<v Speaker 2>year after the bomb, and he has had two operations

0:28:20.800 --> 0:28:24.520
<v Speaker 2>on his throat for thyroid cancer. The Japanese fishing boat

0:28:24.560 --> 0:28:28.040
<v Speaker 2>Lucky Dragon number five also came into direct contact with

0:28:28.080 --> 0:28:31.639
<v Speaker 2>the fallout, which began raining down on them that same morning.

0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:36.000
<v Speaker 2>They'd been fishing outside the designated danger zone that the

0:28:36.080 --> 0:28:39.720
<v Speaker 2>US government had declared in advance, but when radioactive dust

0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:42.960
<v Speaker 2>began to fall on them, they scrambled to leave. Pulling

0:28:43.040 --> 0:28:46.440
<v Speaker 2>their gear took nearly six hours, during which time they

0:28:46.440 --> 0:28:48.640
<v Speaker 2>were covered in the dust and gathered some of it

0:28:48.720 --> 0:28:51.400
<v Speaker 2>in bags to take home and determine what this dust was.

0:28:52.320 --> 0:28:54.880
<v Speaker 2>Later in the day, they began to get sick as

0:28:54.920 --> 0:28:57.680
<v Speaker 2>they headed home. One member of the crew kept a

0:28:57.720 --> 0:28:59.760
<v Speaker 2>bag of the ash to have it analyzed on their

0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:02.240
<v Speaker 2>turn home, but he hung it from his bunk bed,

0:29:02.320 --> 0:29:05.200
<v Speaker 2>causing the crew to get continued exposure all the way home.

0:29:05.800 --> 0:29:07.880
<v Speaker 2>It took them two weeks to get back to Japan,

0:29:08.360 --> 0:29:11.600
<v Speaker 2>and doctors quickly determined the cause of their blisters, sickness,

0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:15.440
<v Speaker 2>and hair loss. They ask a US Atomic Energy Committee

0:29:15.440 --> 0:29:19.000
<v Speaker 2>for information on how to treat the fishermen. Instead, the

0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:22.120
<v Speaker 2>US sent two scientists to observe them. One of the

0:29:22.120 --> 0:29:25.320
<v Speaker 2>fishermen died and the others were sent home after fourteen

0:29:25.400 --> 0:29:29.360
<v Speaker 2>months in hospital. They faced stigma in public, and most

0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:33.320
<v Speaker 2>of them eventually died from liver cirrhosis or cancer. Thirty

0:29:33.320 --> 0:29:36.920
<v Speaker 2>six hours after the test, United States servicemen were evacuated

0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:41.280
<v Speaker 2>from Wrong Lap. Fifty four hours afterwards, the people of

0:29:41.320 --> 0:29:45.840
<v Speaker 2>Wrong Lappatole were evacuated, and seventy eight hours after the

0:29:45.920 --> 0:29:49.120
<v Speaker 2>fallout hit them, less than half of Utrich's four hundred

0:29:49.160 --> 0:29:53.880
<v Speaker 2>people were eventually evacuated. Here's Ariana again recounting the story

0:29:54.000 --> 0:29:56.040
<v Speaker 2>of one of those Wrong Lap residents.

0:29:56.640 --> 0:30:00.560
<v Speaker 14>So they were evacuated on March fourth, nineteen fifty four,

0:30:01.240 --> 0:30:06.200
<v Speaker 14>and upon evacuation, the community was ordered to strip down

0:30:06.680 --> 0:30:10.800
<v Speaker 14>naked on the ships. They did not separate the males

0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:16.000
<v Speaker 14>from the females. The entire community stood naked. The community

0:30:16.040 --> 0:30:18.760
<v Speaker 14>stood naked on the ship and they were hosed down

0:30:18.800 --> 0:30:19.920
<v Speaker 14>with the pressure washer.

0:30:21.760 --> 0:30:26.560
<v Speaker 13>When you talk stories with them today, it's they recall

0:30:26.640 --> 0:30:27.440
<v Speaker 13>it as you know.

0:30:27.480 --> 0:30:29.959
<v Speaker 14>They say, you know, the holes was so strong, it

0:30:29.960 --> 0:30:33.520
<v Speaker 14>felt like those hoses that they used to put out fires.

0:30:34.200 --> 0:30:36.920
<v Speaker 13>And after they were pressure.

0:30:36.640 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 14>Washed, they were given a soldiers underwear and T shirt

0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:44.720
<v Speaker 14>to wear for their journey to Quadulant at all, and

0:30:44.800 --> 0:30:48.120
<v Speaker 14>for the bigger women that were a part of this

0:30:48.320 --> 0:30:51.880
<v Speaker 14>group that could not fit these soldiers underwears and T shirts,

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:55.400
<v Speaker 14>they were given just a small towel to cover while

0:30:55.440 --> 0:30:59.480
<v Speaker 14>they were journeying to Quadulant. And also from these testimonies,

0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:02.520
<v Speaker 14>one of my neighbors, she was seven years old at

0:31:02.560 --> 0:31:05.600
<v Speaker 14>that time, and she said, you know, she's just a kid,

0:31:05.640 --> 0:31:09.040
<v Speaker 14>and when everybody was danding naked, and she saw her uncles,

0:31:09.040 --> 0:31:12.000
<v Speaker 14>and she thought it was funny at that time, but

0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:15.680
<v Speaker 14>she realized later that that was such a breach of

0:31:15.760 --> 0:31:20.640
<v Speaker 14>privacy and a moment of humiliation. And she recalls her

0:31:20.680 --> 0:31:23.920
<v Speaker 14>grandmother's skin falling off, and she said, it looked like

0:31:24.360 --> 0:31:27.080
<v Speaker 14>we all were like in a burning house, and everybody

0:31:27.120 --> 0:31:30.000
<v Speaker 14>had these scars on, like just the peel burning off.

0:31:30.760 --> 0:31:33.120
<v Speaker 14>But at that time she did not really realize it.

0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:36.040
<v Speaker 14>She did not have a lot of burns. She's still

0:31:36.080 --> 0:31:38.680
<v Speaker 14>alive today, but she did not have a lot of

0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:42.840
<v Speaker 14>burns because when the bomb was detonated, she was told

0:31:42.840 --> 0:31:45.800
<v Speaker 14>to go inside her house, and so she had a

0:31:45.840 --> 0:31:46.760
<v Speaker 14>little bit of protection.

0:31:47.360 --> 0:31:50.600
<v Speaker 2>They were taken to Quadulin Naval Base, where things became

0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:53.720
<v Speaker 2>even worse for them. A week after the test, the

0:31:53.760 --> 0:31:56.760
<v Speaker 2>Atomic Energy Commission and the US Department of Defense sent

0:31:56.800 --> 0:32:00.280
<v Speaker 2>a joint medical team to Quadulin and these doctors. After

0:32:00.320 --> 0:32:03.200
<v Speaker 2>the memo stating that the exposed people should have quote

0:32:03.600 --> 0:32:06.720
<v Speaker 2>no exposure for the rest of their natural lives, one

0:32:06.800 --> 0:32:10.200
<v Speaker 2>hundred and eleven traditional Marshalisee leaders petition the United Nations

0:32:10.200 --> 0:32:12.800
<v Speaker 2>to be more cautious with testing and to stop it

0:32:12.960 --> 0:32:16.360
<v Speaker 2>entirely if at all possible. The UN decided to continue,

0:32:16.720 --> 0:32:20.360
<v Speaker 2>but without it precautions. It urged but did not compel

0:32:20.480 --> 0:32:24.120
<v Speaker 2>the US government to compensate the marshalise people. In fact,

0:32:24.640 --> 0:32:26.960
<v Speaker 2>the United States was only beginning the damage it would

0:32:27.000 --> 0:32:29.520
<v Speaker 2>do to the people of the Marshall Islands, and compensation

0:32:29.640 --> 0:32:33.000
<v Speaker 2>would not come for another three decades. I'll let Ariana

0:32:33.000 --> 0:32:34.480
<v Speaker 2>explain what actually happened next.

0:32:35.480 --> 0:32:39.520
<v Speaker 14>On March ninth, nineteen fifty four, the Project four point

0:32:39.600 --> 0:32:44.000
<v Speaker 14>one scientists arrive, and then on March eleventh, nineteen fifty four,

0:32:44.160 --> 0:32:48.800
<v Speaker 14>the Project four point one officially commenced without consent from

0:32:48.840 --> 0:32:51.800
<v Speaker 14>the people. And this Project four point one was the

0:32:51.840 --> 0:32:55.160
<v Speaker 14>study of radiation on human beings and if you look

0:32:55.200 --> 0:32:58.120
<v Speaker 14>at the classified files. We have a lot of them

0:32:58.240 --> 0:33:02.040
<v Speaker 14>at the College of the Marshall Island Nuclear Institute. There's

0:33:02.360 --> 0:33:05.680
<v Speaker 14>you know, all different types of projects and for example,

0:33:05.800 --> 0:33:08.440
<v Speaker 14>like one project two point three could be the study

0:33:08.440 --> 0:33:11.640
<v Speaker 14>of radiation on corals, and then you know seven point

0:33:11.840 --> 0:33:15.440
<v Speaker 14>two is study of radiation on the trees and four

0:33:15.480 --> 0:33:17.640
<v Speaker 14>point one just so happened to be the study of

0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:22.600
<v Speaker 14>radiation on human beings. And when they were in Quadulin,

0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:25.240
<v Speaker 14>they were there for a couple of days. They were

0:33:25.360 --> 0:33:28.120
<v Speaker 14>ordered to bathe in the lagoon and salt water and

0:33:28.160 --> 0:33:31.560
<v Speaker 14>scrub their burns three times a day, every single day.

0:33:32.320 --> 0:33:36.480
<v Speaker 14>Also they were ordered to provide urine samples three times

0:33:36.520 --> 0:33:39.640
<v Speaker 14>a day. They also had to give blood samples three

0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:40.360
<v Speaker 14>times a day.

0:33:41.040 --> 0:33:43.840
<v Speaker 13>And this went on. For the people of.

0:33:43.800 --> 0:33:46.040
<v Speaker 14>Wudaruk it was three months, and for the people of

0:33:46.120 --> 0:33:48.240
<v Speaker 14>Romolap it was almost a year. And then they were

0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:50.920
<v Speaker 14>moved here to one of the small islands here where

0:33:50.920 --> 0:33:54.080
<v Speaker 14>they lived and waited for their home to be cleaned

0:33:54.120 --> 0:33:57.160
<v Speaker 14>up for them to return. And the thing is, while

0:33:57.200 --> 0:34:01.000
<v Speaker 14>they were taking these blood and urine sound amples and

0:34:01.120 --> 0:34:04.080
<v Speaker 14>having them bathed in the lagoon and scrubbing their burns

0:34:04.120 --> 0:34:08.440
<v Speaker 14>and saltwater three times a day, they all had clinical numbers,

0:34:08.719 --> 0:34:11.960
<v Speaker 14>and so even the pregnant women, their babies and their

0:34:11.960 --> 0:34:16.480
<v Speaker 14>wombs also were assigned a clinical number, because even if

0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:20.239
<v Speaker 14>there was still a baby, they were already monitoring these babies.

0:34:20.320 --> 0:34:26.440
<v Speaker 14>And the thing is, even with their hair falling off

0:34:27.440 --> 0:34:33.600
<v Speaker 14>and their skin peeling off, and their fingernails turning black

0:34:33.960 --> 0:34:39.120
<v Speaker 14>and just feeling very nauxious and having a severe headache,

0:34:39.840 --> 0:34:44.120
<v Speaker 14>they were not given paint medication. They were not given

0:34:44.800 --> 0:34:49.640
<v Speaker 14>any type of talanol or any of that. They were

0:34:49.719 --> 0:34:52.799
<v Speaker 14>just being monitored. And this whole time they thought they

0:34:52.800 --> 0:34:57.880
<v Speaker 14>were being treated, they didn't realize that they were a

0:34:57.880 --> 0:35:01.040
<v Speaker 14>part of this project that was just they're to study

0:35:01.200 --> 0:35:04.400
<v Speaker 14>how their body reacts to exposure to radiation.

0:35:05.640 --> 0:35:09.160
<v Speaker 2>Three years after being evacuated, the people of Rongolap were

0:35:09.200 --> 0:35:10.440
<v Speaker 2>allowed to return.

0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:13.760
<v Speaker 14>And then they moved them back in nineteen fifty seven

0:35:13.880 --> 0:35:16.160
<v Speaker 14>because the bomb that they was exposed to was in

0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:19.400
<v Speaker 14>nineteen fifty four and they were there for twenty eight years.

0:35:19.680 --> 0:35:22.839
<v Speaker 2>This wasn't a benevolent effort. It was a continuation of

0:35:22.840 --> 0:35:25.120
<v Speaker 2>the USA's use of the people of the Republic of

0:35:25.120 --> 0:35:27.600
<v Speaker 2>Marshall Islands subjects of experimentation.

0:35:28.320 --> 0:35:30.520
<v Speaker 14>Later on, when they were going to move the people

0:35:30.560 --> 0:35:34.400
<v Speaker 14>of Romolap back to Ronolap. What they wanted to study

0:35:34.480 --> 0:35:40.240
<v Speaker 14>now was how radiation evolves on the food chain, because

0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:43.120
<v Speaker 14>when they had moved them back to Ronolap, this was

0:35:43.400 --> 0:35:47.080
<v Speaker 14>the original exposed group. When they went back, it was

0:35:47.080 --> 0:35:49.279
<v Speaker 14>not just the exposed group anymore because they were here

0:35:49.320 --> 0:35:52.319
<v Speaker 14>for three years and they took their family members that

0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:54.799
<v Speaker 14>were on Meguro and some of them got married, and

0:35:54.840 --> 0:35:57.280
<v Speaker 14>so when they went back there was four.

0:35:57.160 --> 0:35:57.959
<v Speaker 13>Hundred of them.

0:35:58.320 --> 0:36:01.879
<v Speaker 14>And I always which group was given a green card

0:36:01.960 --> 0:36:04.040
<v Speaker 14>and a red card, but like if it was a

0:36:04.080 --> 0:36:06.160
<v Speaker 14>red card, they were the exposed group, and the green

0:36:06.200 --> 0:36:08.879
<v Speaker 14>card was now the new control group that was going

0:36:08.960 --> 0:36:11.719
<v Speaker 14>to eat the crops on the land and eat off

0:36:11.760 --> 0:36:15.160
<v Speaker 14>of the land to see how the radiation has moved

0:36:15.200 --> 0:36:19.719
<v Speaker 14>in the food chain. And that's when my mother's father

0:36:19.920 --> 0:36:22.760
<v Speaker 14>was born on Ramala in nineteen fifty nine.

0:36:23.040 --> 0:36:26.239
<v Speaker 2>Eventually, the people of wrong Lap were evacuated nineteen eighty

0:36:26.239 --> 0:36:29.080
<v Speaker 2>five thanks to Greenpeace, who moved them to other atolls

0:36:29.120 --> 0:36:32.760
<v Speaker 2>when the US government refused to help them or acknowledge responsibility.

0:36:33.760 --> 0:36:35.400
<v Speaker 2>It was not just the people on wrong Lap and

0:36:35.440 --> 0:36:37.400
<v Speaker 2>the other atolls at the time who were impacted by

0:36:37.400 --> 0:36:41.600
<v Speaker 2>the radiation. The consequences have lasted for generations.

0:36:41.800 --> 0:36:48.400
<v Speaker 14>And also we've had many cases of birth defects or

0:36:49.239 --> 0:36:53.440
<v Speaker 14>babies that were born, and according to the testimonies of

0:36:53.520 --> 0:36:57.640
<v Speaker 14>these mothers that had given birth, their babies were born

0:36:57.840 --> 0:37:02.640
<v Speaker 14>sometimes looking like jellyfish. Sometimes their babies were born without

0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:05.000
<v Speaker 14>a head, without limbs.

0:37:05.040 --> 0:37:06.280
<v Speaker 13>All they could see.

0:37:06.360 --> 0:37:10.480
<v Speaker 14>Was the heart beating and the blood flowing through their

0:37:10.600 --> 0:37:14.480
<v Speaker 14>veins and their intestines, and they just were not sure

0:37:14.560 --> 0:37:17.880
<v Speaker 14>whether they should bury this baby when the heart is

0:37:17.880 --> 0:37:19.839
<v Speaker 14>still beating, or if they should wait for the heart

0:37:19.920 --> 0:37:20.800
<v Speaker 14>to stop beating.

0:37:21.600 --> 0:37:24.960
<v Speaker 13>And some mothers had told.

0:37:24.680 --> 0:37:28.920
<v Speaker 14>Their stories of giving breaths to babies that they recalled

0:37:29.000 --> 0:37:34.759
<v Speaker 14>looking like octopus. Some others recalled their babies looking like turtles.

0:37:35.680 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 14>Some of them on many occasions they also had babies

0:37:40.040 --> 0:37:42.400
<v Speaker 14>that were looking like grapes.

0:37:42.719 --> 0:37:43.160
<v Speaker 13>The fruit.

0:37:43.719 --> 0:37:47.480
<v Speaker 14>It just looked like a bunch of grapes lump together.

0:37:48.280 --> 0:37:51.560
<v Speaker 14>And for many of these cases, these women were not

0:37:51.719 --> 0:37:55.280
<v Speaker 14>speaking up at that time because what they were told

0:37:55.320 --> 0:37:59.799
<v Speaker 14>by the Atomic Energy Commissions officials was that this is

0:37:59.840 --> 0:38:03.399
<v Speaker 14>the result of incest, and so it was a very

0:38:03.560 --> 0:38:08.759
<v Speaker 14>humiliating experience. Many of these women had no idea that

0:38:08.800 --> 0:38:13.320
<v Speaker 14>their own sisters were also giving birth to these monster

0:38:13.440 --> 0:38:16.719
<v Speaker 14>looking babies that they were giving birth to, and they

0:38:16.760 --> 0:38:21.680
<v Speaker 14>would oftentimes bury their babies alone where nobody else was watching.

0:38:21.719 --> 0:38:25.480
<v Speaker 14>And and it's a worldwide culture that when someone passes away,

0:38:25.560 --> 0:38:28.520
<v Speaker 14>we all gathered to mourn this loved one. But for

0:38:29.160 --> 0:38:32.239
<v Speaker 14>the women, the Marshally's woman at that time, it was

0:38:32.320 --> 0:38:35.719
<v Speaker 14>a very heartbreaking moment for them because they did not

0:38:36.000 --> 0:38:39.000
<v Speaker 14>want anybody else to see this baby that they had

0:38:39.040 --> 0:38:42.040
<v Speaker 14>given birth to, not realizing that their own sister was

0:38:42.080 --> 0:38:45.360
<v Speaker 14>also enduring the same crab.

0:38:50.440 --> 0:38:53.120
<v Speaker 2>Things were not much better for the Bikinians, who'd been

0:38:53.160 --> 0:38:55.839
<v Speaker 2>evacuated at the start of testing in nineteen forty six

0:38:57.120 --> 0:38:59.399
<v Speaker 2>after fouled attempt to settle them on another at all.

0:38:59.520 --> 0:39:01.800
<v Speaker 2>Many of the Kechennians elected to try living on Killi

0:39:01.840 --> 0:39:05.320
<v Speaker 2>as their new home. Killy Island lacked a coral reef,

0:39:05.600 --> 0:39:07.960
<v Speaker 2>and this made their traditional lifestyle of island hopping and

0:39:08.040 --> 0:39:12.840
<v Speaker 2>fishing in the calm Lagoon impossible. The Bikilians, inhabitants of

0:39:12.880 --> 0:39:15.840
<v Speaker 2>the most remote atoll in the already remote Marshall Islands,

0:39:16.120 --> 0:39:18.840
<v Speaker 2>were legendary for their ability to navigate using the stars

0:39:18.880 --> 0:39:21.759
<v Speaker 2>and seas, but on their new Island. The waves were

0:39:21.800 --> 0:39:24.319
<v Speaker 2>so big that their traditional canoes couldn't sail at all.

0:39:25.239 --> 0:39:28.360
<v Speaker 2>Soon the boat the USA had given them to import

0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:31.120
<v Speaker 2>food had sunk into the ferocious seas around the island,

0:39:31.560 --> 0:39:34.719
<v Speaker 2>and they were entirely reliant on air dropped food. Some

0:39:34.920 --> 0:39:37.600
<v Speaker 2>families moved to other islands or split their time between

0:39:37.680 --> 0:39:40.600
<v Speaker 2>Killi and the atolls with better resources. But life on

0:39:40.680 --> 0:39:43.600
<v Speaker 2>Killie was hard, and the lack of retected lagoon made

0:39:43.640 --> 0:39:46.040
<v Speaker 2>every delivery of food or supplies by boat a high

0:39:46.120 --> 0:39:49.400
<v Speaker 2>risk endeavor. Along with the loss of their homeland, many

0:39:49.440 --> 0:39:52.640
<v Speaker 2>generations of Bikinians began to lose their navigation skills and

0:39:52.640 --> 0:39:55.560
<v Speaker 2>their connection to the lagoon that provided so much sustenance

0:39:55.560 --> 0:39:57.400
<v Speaker 2>and material for their traditional lifestyle.

0:39:57.800 --> 0:40:03.160
<v Speaker 14>They had suffered severe starve because for the people of Bikini,

0:40:03.200 --> 0:40:06.480
<v Speaker 14>the atoll that they were now living in was just

0:40:06.600 --> 0:40:09.800
<v Speaker 14>uninhabited in the first place, because all the fish around

0:40:09.800 --> 0:40:12.799
<v Speaker 14>the atoll or sicutara fish, so they could not eat

0:40:12.840 --> 0:40:15.960
<v Speaker 14>off the ocean. They couldn't they could not grow any crops.

0:40:16.040 --> 0:40:19.320
<v Speaker 14>And are you guys familiar with what a nony fruit?

0:40:19.480 --> 0:40:19.560
<v Speaker 6>Is?

0:40:19.680 --> 0:40:23.279
<v Speaker 14>A nony tree and it does not smell good, right,

0:40:23.360 --> 0:40:26.279
<v Speaker 14>But they started eating the nony fruit because they did

0:40:26.360 --> 0:40:29.480
<v Speaker 14>not have any bread fruit or papayas or anything.

0:40:29.160 --> 0:40:31.320
<v Speaker 13>Growing on that land.

0:40:31.440 --> 0:40:34.799
<v Speaker 14>And the men oftentimes had to sail out in their

0:40:34.800 --> 0:40:37.160
<v Speaker 14>canoes and they would be gone for almost a week

0:40:37.560 --> 0:40:40.080
<v Speaker 14>because they sailed out as far as they could to

0:40:40.120 --> 0:40:42.520
<v Speaker 14>be able to get fish that was edible for them.

0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:47.600
<v Speaker 14>Then for the people of Nlda, from their testimonies, the

0:40:47.640 --> 0:40:50.759
<v Speaker 14>at all that they were evacuated to was rat infested

0:40:50.880 --> 0:40:53.960
<v Speaker 14>and so their babies had to sleep in boxes. They

0:40:53.960 --> 0:40:56.520
<v Speaker 14>had to build like boxes for their babies or otherwise

0:40:56.560 --> 0:40:59.120
<v Speaker 14>the rats would come and nibble at their toes while

0:40:59.120 --> 0:41:01.960
<v Speaker 14>they're sleeping. And there was a lot of ways that

0:41:02.000 --> 0:41:04.200
<v Speaker 14>they were trying to figure out how to solve this

0:41:04.560 --> 0:41:08.480
<v Speaker 14>rat infestation. And at one time they were giving people

0:41:09.080 --> 0:41:11.520
<v Speaker 14>incentives like I think it was five cents if you

0:41:11.600 --> 0:41:15.080
<v Speaker 14>brought a rat's tail or something, you know, like, because

0:41:15.120 --> 0:41:17.200
<v Speaker 14>they were just trying to get rid of the rats

0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:20.640
<v Speaker 14>and they could not. And yeah, it's just a lot

0:41:20.680 --> 0:41:24.040
<v Speaker 14>of trauma and a lot of moving around. When the

0:41:24.080 --> 0:41:28.120
<v Speaker 14>people of Bikini were first moved from Bikini to this

0:41:28.239 --> 0:41:31.759
<v Speaker 14>new home of romric Atoll, where they lived for the

0:41:31.760 --> 0:41:35.520
<v Speaker 14>next two years. By the time the military had gone

0:41:35.560 --> 0:41:39.360
<v Speaker 14>back to pick them up when he's a very elderly

0:41:39.400 --> 0:41:41.720
<v Speaker 14>man now, but he was six years old at that time.

0:41:42.160 --> 0:41:46.480
<v Speaker 14>And the way he describes it is that he says

0:41:46.960 --> 0:41:50.520
<v Speaker 14>it was a very traumatizing moment for him because they

0:41:50.560 --> 0:41:53.840
<v Speaker 14>were carrying some of the people on leaves to the ship.

0:41:53.880 --> 0:41:55.200
<v Speaker 13>They were very fragile.

0:41:55.280 --> 0:41:58.839
<v Speaker 14>He said, if you have seen photos of the Holocaust,

0:41:58.920 --> 0:42:02.280
<v Speaker 14>this is this is what our people looked like because

0:42:02.320 --> 0:42:04.880
<v Speaker 14>there was just severe starvation at that time.

0:42:05.360 --> 0:42:08.600
<v Speaker 2>In nineteen sixty eight, LBJ promised the Bikinians a chance

0:42:08.640 --> 0:42:11.360
<v Speaker 2>to return to their beloved home, and the US Trust

0:42:11.440 --> 0:42:15.960
<v Speaker 2>Territory began rebuilding the structures and decontaminating the soil. These

0:42:15.960 --> 0:42:18.840
<v Speaker 2>efforts were hampered by infrequent flights and delayed by the

0:42:18.880 --> 0:42:21.799
<v Speaker 2>discovery that the large coconut crabs on the island were

0:42:21.840 --> 0:42:26.840
<v Speaker 2>still dangerously contaminated. In nineteen seventy two, one hundred people

0:42:26.880 --> 0:42:31.280
<v Speaker 2>from three extended families moved back and began rebuilding their paradise,

0:42:31.840 --> 0:42:33.960
<v Speaker 2>but it wasn't long before it became clear that their

0:42:33.960 --> 0:42:37.880
<v Speaker 2>home was far from recovered. A visiting team of scientists

0:42:37.920 --> 0:42:41.440
<v Speaker 2>from France not the USA found dangerously high levels of

0:42:41.520 --> 0:42:45.920
<v Speaker 2>radioactivity and fruit, well water, and in the urine samples

0:42:45.920 --> 0:42:49.640
<v Speaker 2>of islanders. The islanders had sued the federal government and

0:42:49.760 --> 0:42:53.319
<v Speaker 2>more research was done. By nineteen seventy eight, scientists had

0:42:53.320 --> 0:42:56.200
<v Speaker 2>found an elevenfold increase in the caesium one hundred and

0:42:56.280 --> 0:43:00.160
<v Speaker 2>thirty seven body burdens of the people living on the islands, ever,

0:43:00.239 --> 0:43:04.920
<v Speaker 2>which the Department of the Interior called quote incredible. Once again,

0:43:05.280 --> 0:43:08.880
<v Speaker 2>the islanders were removed from their home. In nineteen eighty three,

0:43:09.280 --> 0:43:12.239
<v Speaker 2>the Republic of the Marshall Island gained its independence signed

0:43:12.280 --> 0:43:15.520
<v Speaker 2>the Compact of Free Association with the United States. When

0:43:15.560 --> 0:43:18.000
<v Speaker 2>the Compact came into effect in nineteen eighty six, the

0:43:18.040 --> 0:43:21.560
<v Speaker 2>Marshalies received their first financial settlement from the USA courtesy

0:43:21.600 --> 0:43:23.920
<v Speaker 2>of Section one hundred and seventy seven of the Compact

0:43:23.920 --> 0:43:27.440
<v Speaker 2>of Free Association, which pledged reparations for damages to the

0:43:27.480 --> 0:43:33.080
<v Speaker 2>former inhabitants of Bikini Enewattap, Rongolap, and utre catolls. They

0:43:33.080 --> 0:43:36.280
<v Speaker 2>were promised twelve percent rate of return on the trust fund,

0:43:36.520 --> 0:43:38.840
<v Speaker 2>which would be administered by the US and would provide

0:43:38.880 --> 0:43:43.160
<v Speaker 2>health care and property damage reimbursements. However, this fund relied

0:43:43.200 --> 0:43:45.920
<v Speaker 2>upon the fiction that only four a tolls were impacted

0:43:45.920 --> 0:43:50.160
<v Speaker 2>by the nuclear fallout. There is considerable evidence to suggest

0:43:50.280 --> 0:43:53.080
<v Speaker 2>that the entire republic of the Marshall Islands was directly

0:43:53.120 --> 0:43:56.919
<v Speaker 2>impacted by fallout from the Bravo shot. The trust fund

0:43:56.960 --> 0:43:59.360
<v Speaker 2>also tied the interest of the marshalise to those of

0:43:59.360 --> 0:44:03.040
<v Speaker 2>global cap As the value of the fund's investments went up,

0:44:03.239 --> 0:44:06.279
<v Speaker 2>so did their ability to fund healthcare and improve their

0:44:06.280 --> 0:44:09.840
<v Speaker 2>living conditions. But I found financial reports from that trust

0:44:09.840 --> 0:44:13.000
<v Speaker 2>fund in twenty sixteen. At the time, it had funds

0:44:13.040 --> 0:44:16.640
<v Speaker 2>invested in US domestic public equities twenty nine point five

0:44:16.640 --> 0:44:20.040
<v Speaker 2>percent of the portfolio. As of September thirty, twenty fifteen,

0:44:20.760 --> 0:44:24.360
<v Speaker 2>international equities made up twenty seven point four percent, fixed

0:44:24.360 --> 0:44:27.960
<v Speaker 2>income funds made up eighteen percent, real estate made up

0:44:27.960 --> 0:44:31.640
<v Speaker 2>five point five percent, hedge fund made up fifteen percent,

0:44:32.160 --> 0:44:34.640
<v Speaker 2>and a private equity fund made up the remaining four

0:44:34.640 --> 0:44:38.120
<v Speaker 2>point six percent. But the interests were low lying atoll

0:44:38.239 --> 0:44:40.560
<v Speaker 2>nation and those of global capital will never really be

0:44:40.600 --> 0:44:44.040
<v Speaker 2>fully aligned. The only reason hedge funds could offer such

0:44:44.080 --> 0:44:47.840
<v Speaker 2>astronomical returns for their investors is that they are comprised

0:44:47.880 --> 0:44:51.200
<v Speaker 2>of businesses who don't pay the full cost for their production.

0:44:52.280 --> 0:44:55.240
<v Speaker 2>This is nowhere more obvious than the rapidly shrinking atolls

0:44:55.239 --> 0:44:58.400
<v Speaker 2>of the Marshall Islands, where the rising sea levels driven

0:44:58.440 --> 0:45:01.560
<v Speaker 2>by the knee to inshure rising store prices, opposing a

0:45:01.640 --> 0:45:04.920
<v Speaker 2>new threat to people who endured and survived the largest

0:45:05.000 --> 0:45:07.440
<v Speaker 2>nuclear bomb the US is ever known to have deployed.

0:45:08.239 --> 0:45:11.000
<v Speaker 2>In nineteen eighty seven, a stock market collapse known as

0:45:11.040 --> 0:45:14.359
<v Speaker 2>Black Monday reduced the value of the fund, and even

0:45:14.400 --> 0:45:17.759
<v Speaker 2>to this day, despite other settlements and agreements, not one

0:45:17.920 --> 0:45:20.799
<v Speaker 2>single person in the Marshall Islands has received the full

0:45:20.840 --> 0:45:24.000
<v Speaker 2>amount of compensation that they were allocated. A great many

0:45:24.080 --> 0:45:28.279
<v Speaker 2>have received less than half. In nineteen ninety five, the

0:45:28.360 --> 0:45:31.480
<v Speaker 2>Island Council learned that the Environmental Protection Agency standard for

0:45:31.600 --> 0:45:35.000
<v Speaker 2>radiation reduction requirements was a lot lower than those of

0:45:35.040 --> 0:45:37.480
<v Speaker 2>the Department of Energy scientists had been using thus far

0:45:38.239 --> 0:45:42.560
<v Speaker 2>fifteen millirems as opposed to one hundred millirems. Between this

0:45:43.080 --> 0:45:45.560
<v Speaker 2>and the demand on settlement funds for services that would

0:45:45.600 --> 0:45:48.160
<v Speaker 2>lift the surviving islanders and their families out of poverty,

0:45:48.920 --> 0:45:52.440
<v Speaker 2>the cleanup of Bikinia Toll began to lose steam. Today,

0:45:52.920 --> 0:45:55.960
<v Speaker 2>six hundred people still live on killing subsisting largely a

0:45:56.040 --> 0:46:00.000
<v Speaker 2>US settlement fund. Their children, like many other marshal Eads,

0:46:00.160 --> 0:46:02.960
<v Speaker 2>go to boarding schools and other atolls, but they still

0:46:03.000 --> 0:46:06.680
<v Speaker 2>can't sale their canoes at home. Other Bikinians live on

0:46:06.680 --> 0:46:09.319
<v Speaker 2>one of the islands or Madro Atoll, but with no

0:46:09.440 --> 0:46:11.880
<v Speaker 2>matrilineal ties to their land, they don't have access to

0:46:11.920 --> 0:46:14.960
<v Speaker 2>that which defines them in their culture. Despite being so

0:46:15.080 --> 0:46:17.520
<v Speaker 2>isolated that the government thought it could safely nuke the

0:46:17.560 --> 0:46:21.040
<v Speaker 2>island without damaging the mainland or really anywhere it cared about,

0:46:21.760 --> 0:46:24.240
<v Speaker 2>the island's trust fund is still privy to the rising

0:46:24.280 --> 0:46:26.279
<v Speaker 2>and falling of the stock market, and it took a

0:46:26.280 --> 0:46:30.279
<v Speaker 2>significant hit in two thousand and eight. In twenty seventeen,

0:46:31.120 --> 0:46:34.720
<v Speaker 2>Trump's Department of the Interior allowed Bikini's mayor and council

0:46:34.800 --> 0:46:36.960
<v Speaker 2>to supervise the use of the fund in order to

0:46:37.120 --> 0:46:42.520
<v Speaker 2>quote restore trust and ensure that sovereignty means something. When

0:46:42.560 --> 0:46:45.200
<v Speaker 2>turned over, the fund was valued at fifty nine million

0:46:45.280 --> 0:46:48.719
<v Speaker 2>US dollars. Today it holds a little more than one

0:46:48.800 --> 0:46:52.480
<v Speaker 2>hundred thousand US dollars. The island's mayor and US in

0:46:52.560 --> 0:46:55.040
<v Speaker 2>GIEVUS oversaw the fund at the time of its depletion,

0:46:55.280 --> 0:46:57.960
<v Speaker 2>and has admitted to claiming personal expenses from the fund

0:46:58.000 --> 0:46:59.960
<v Speaker 2>and spending six figure sums on his trip to the

0:47:01.480 --> 0:47:04.640
<v Speaker 2>He's also made more popular purchases like a small aircraft

0:47:04.680 --> 0:47:07.879
<v Speaker 2>and two cargo ships to help supply the more isolated Bikinians,

0:47:08.200 --> 0:47:10.600
<v Speaker 2>as well as construction equipment to build sea walls to

0:47:10.600 --> 0:47:14.600
<v Speaker 2>protect the islanders against another crisis, rising sea levels, which

0:47:14.640 --> 0:47:18.600
<v Speaker 2>threatens to swallow their whole country in a few decades. Sadly,

0:47:19.080 --> 0:47:21.960
<v Speaker 2>the spending has left the fund virtually empty and the

0:47:21.960 --> 0:47:25.120
<v Speaker 2>Czech's Bikinians god, which amounted to about eighty dollars per

0:47:25.120 --> 0:47:29.120
<v Speaker 2>person per month, have stopped coming. These stipends help feed

0:47:29.160 --> 0:47:31.959
<v Speaker 2>Bikinians and pay for medical care, and without them things

0:47:31.960 --> 0:47:35.880
<v Speaker 2>are even harder. Today. A few caretakers live on Bikinia

0:47:35.880 --> 0:47:38.400
<v Speaker 2>at all, and you can visit to scuba dive, but

0:47:38.440 --> 0:47:42.320
<v Speaker 2>the community that once existed there is gone. Edward Madison,

0:47:42.800 --> 0:47:45.880
<v Speaker 2>one of those caretakers, was grandson of one of the

0:47:45.960 --> 0:47:50.280
<v Speaker 2>residents removed in nineteen forty six. Madison helped lead dives

0:47:50.280 --> 0:47:53.480
<v Speaker 2>in the islands, tested clean up methods, and monitored the

0:47:53.480 --> 0:47:56.279
<v Speaker 2>pollutants for the US Department of Energy, as well as

0:47:56.280 --> 0:47:59.600
<v Speaker 2>mapping the lagoon's World War II. Rex he passed away

0:47:59.600 --> 0:48:08.400
<v Speaker 2>on Mark twenty ninth, twenty twenty. On any Watakatoll, the

0:48:08.440 --> 0:48:11.960
<v Speaker 2>cleanup will never happen. Even after it ended nuclear testing,

0:48:12.440 --> 0:48:16.600
<v Speaker 2>the US tested conventional and biological weapons there. It shot

0:48:16.640 --> 0:48:21.239
<v Speaker 2>missiles from California at the atoll and tested airborne bioweapons.

0:48:21.760 --> 0:48:25.920
<v Speaker 2>From nineteen seventy seven to nineteen eighty, the US began

0:48:26.040 --> 0:48:29.600
<v Speaker 2>scraping radioactive topsoil off the various islands it had tested

0:48:29.640 --> 0:48:33.840
<v Speaker 2>for both nuclear and biological weapons, and transporting that waste,

0:48:34.000 --> 0:48:37.640
<v Speaker 2>along with some race from Nevada to run It Island.

0:48:37.960 --> 0:48:40.800
<v Speaker 2>Once on run It, the waste was mixed with concrete

0:48:40.880 --> 0:48:44.440
<v Speaker 2>and secured in a giant concrete dome. Jeff's families from

0:48:44.440 --> 0:48:46.879
<v Speaker 2>that island, but thanks to the levels of radiation which

0:48:46.960 --> 0:48:49.960
<v Speaker 2>rival Fukushima Chernobyl, he can't go back.

0:48:50.719 --> 0:48:52.320
<v Speaker 7>My grandfather is from this island.

0:48:52.520 --> 0:48:55.640
<v Speaker 5>Oh wow, yes, sucks.

0:48:55.840 --> 0:48:59.960
<v Speaker 7>But I've never been to that island.

0:49:00.239 --> 0:49:03.319
<v Speaker 2>Is that where you're like? He did his father live

0:49:03.360 --> 0:49:05.440
<v Speaker 2>there and like his hold did they live there for

0:49:05.440 --> 0:49:06.680
<v Speaker 2>a long time? Your family before?

0:49:06.920 --> 0:49:08.920
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, that's your traditional one.

0:49:09.719 --> 0:49:10.239
<v Speaker 18>Do you want to go?

0:49:13.560 --> 0:49:14.440
<v Speaker 7>The dome is there?

0:49:14.600 --> 0:49:16.080
<v Speaker 17>Yeah?

0:49:16.280 --> 0:49:18.120
<v Speaker 7>Like all the people from that island they get to

0:49:18.160 --> 0:49:20.320
<v Speaker 7>test their radiation level.

0:49:21.280 --> 0:49:24.000
<v Speaker 2>Today, thanks to the other extinction level threat the US

0:49:24.000 --> 0:49:28.120
<v Speaker 2>has helped create, climate change, the dome is slowly sinking

0:49:28.360 --> 0:49:32.319
<v Speaker 2>and cracking. Hundreds of US servicemen developed cancer building the dome.

0:49:32.800 --> 0:49:36.719
<v Speaker 2>Six died. Many others have struggled to get full VA benefits.

0:49:37.400 --> 0:49:41.120
<v Speaker 2>As the ocean rises, the concrete cap could simply slide

0:49:41.160 --> 0:49:44.320
<v Speaker 2>off the dome and the thirty three Olympic swimming pools

0:49:44.320 --> 0:49:47.279
<v Speaker 2>worth of nuclear and biological waste could flood out into

0:49:47.280 --> 0:49:52.400
<v Speaker 2>the ocean. Locally, this dome is called the Tomb. On

0:49:52.440 --> 0:49:55.000
<v Speaker 2>the fifth of March two thousand and one, the Nuclear

0:49:55.040 --> 0:49:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Claims Tribunal handed down a decision on a seven year

0:49:58.080 --> 0:50:00.319
<v Speaker 2>lawsuit that the Bikinians had brought against you the United

0:50:00.360 --> 0:50:03.160
<v Speaker 2>States were damages done to their islands and their people

0:50:03.560 --> 0:50:07.480
<v Speaker 2>during the nuclear testing on Bikini. The tribunal was created

0:50:07.520 --> 0:50:10.440
<v Speaker 2>by the Compact of Free Association and that always had

0:50:10.480 --> 0:50:14.240
<v Speaker 2>been underfunded. The settlement and the five hundred and sixty

0:50:14.239 --> 0:50:17.040
<v Speaker 2>three million dollars it awarded stood in Limbos the island

0:50:17.080 --> 0:50:20.279
<v Speaker 2>to sue the federal government for it. On the day

0:50:20.320 --> 0:50:23.680
<v Speaker 2>we left Marjerome, the Republican Marshalll Islands negotiations with the

0:50:23.800 --> 0:50:26.560
<v Speaker 2>USA over the renewal of the Compact of Free Association

0:50:27.000 --> 0:50:29.520
<v Speaker 2>had gone on until two in the morning Marshalise's time.

0:50:30.719 --> 0:50:33.600
<v Speaker 2>We ate breakfast that day with hille Hine, the first

0:50:33.640 --> 0:50:35.719
<v Speaker 2>woman to be president of the Marshall Islands and the

0:50:35.760 --> 0:50:39.439
<v Speaker 2>first woman president in the Pacific. I didn't get great

0:50:39.480 --> 0:50:42.040
<v Speaker 2>audio there, but she shared with us the ongoing struggle

0:50:42.040 --> 0:50:44.799
<v Speaker 2>that the Marshalise people have had to secure adequate and

0:50:44.840 --> 0:50:49.480
<v Speaker 2>fair compensation. With the US offering seven hundred million and

0:50:49.560 --> 0:50:52.239
<v Speaker 2>the calculated costs of health care and cleanup closer to

0:50:52.280 --> 0:50:55.240
<v Speaker 2>three billion, there is a long way for the US

0:50:55.239 --> 0:50:58.880
<v Speaker 2>to come to make the islanders whole. They also, even

0:50:58.960 --> 0:51:02.799
<v Speaker 2>six decades on, haven't apologized to the people who had

0:51:02.840 --> 0:51:06.280
<v Speaker 2>no quarrel with them and whose homes and lives they destroyed.

0:51:07.239 --> 0:51:09.880
<v Speaker 2>The case of the people of the Pacific Proving Grounds

0:51:10.239 --> 0:51:14.160
<v Speaker 2>illustrates rather well how we can't find financial settlements they're

0:51:14.160 --> 0:51:16.880
<v Speaker 2>going to offset the kind of disasters the climate change

0:51:16.960 --> 0:51:20.440
<v Speaker 2>is bringing. This doesn't mean that people who are harmed

0:51:20.480 --> 0:51:23.680
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't be compensated, but it does mean that no amount

0:51:23.719 --> 0:51:26.960
<v Speaker 2>of cash can right the wrongs done. This is why

0:51:27.000 --> 0:51:29.279
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to anchor this series, which is about the

0:51:29.320 --> 0:51:33.160
<v Speaker 2>future with a story about the past, because in the

0:51:33.200 --> 0:51:35.000
<v Speaker 2>next couple of episodes we're going to hear a lot

0:51:35.040 --> 0:51:38.080
<v Speaker 2>about what might happen to the Marshall Islands, and again

0:51:38.239 --> 0:51:41.040
<v Speaker 2>how virtually none of it is the fault of the islanders.

0:51:41.520 --> 0:51:44.520
<v Speaker 2>That doesn't mean we shouldn't accept their leadership on these issues, though,

0:51:45.120 --> 0:51:47.279
<v Speaker 2>as we saw at the negotiations that led to the

0:51:47.320 --> 0:51:50.319
<v Speaker 2>Paris Accords, the Marshall Islands can and should take a

0:51:50.360 --> 0:51:53.040
<v Speaker 2>place at the heart of global discussions about climate change

0:51:53.560 --> 0:51:56.200
<v Speaker 2>because they are the ones most impacted by the constant

0:51:56.239 --> 0:51:59.319
<v Speaker 2>growth neoliberal model that makes other people pay for its

0:51:59.360 --> 0:52:03.360
<v Speaker 2>negative exit. As we will learn in the next few episodes,

0:52:03.920 --> 0:52:06.440
<v Speaker 2>we should ask the people impacted how they want to

0:52:06.440 --> 0:52:09.560
<v Speaker 2>be helped, and not tell them what they need. I

0:52:09.600 --> 0:52:12.200
<v Speaker 2>want to end today's episode with a poem and a

0:52:12.320 --> 0:52:15.120
<v Speaker 2>very Marshal East moment. I tried to meet the poet

0:52:15.280 --> 0:52:17.400
<v Speaker 2>who wrote this while I was on the island, because

0:52:17.600 --> 0:52:19.759
<v Speaker 2>I remember the impact of her poetry at the UN

0:52:19.800 --> 0:52:22.680
<v Speaker 2>Climate Summit. She was off island while I was there,

0:52:23.120 --> 0:52:26.000
<v Speaker 2>but it turned out the hill behind the former president

0:52:26.000 --> 0:52:29.320
<v Speaker 2>who I was having breakfast with was her mum. With

0:52:29.560 --> 0:52:32.480
<v Speaker 2>Kathy gentle kids. Note reading a poem she wrote for

0:52:32.520 --> 0:52:35.280
<v Speaker 2>her own daughter to the United Nations.

0:52:36.680 --> 0:52:41.600
<v Speaker 19>Dear Marta Felibino, you are a seven month old sunrise

0:52:41.640 --> 0:52:45.040
<v Speaker 19>of gummy smiles. You are bald as an egg and

0:52:45.280 --> 0:52:48.160
<v Speaker 19>bald as a buddha. You are thighs that are thunder

0:52:48.239 --> 0:52:51.800
<v Speaker 19>shrieks that are lightning. So excited for bananas, hugs and

0:52:51.880 --> 0:52:57.000
<v Speaker 19>our morning walks along the lagoon. Dear Marta Felibino, I

0:52:57.040 --> 0:53:02.320
<v Speaker 19>want to tell you about that lagoon, that lazy lounging lagoon,

0:53:02.440 --> 0:53:06.319
<v Speaker 19>lounging against the sunrise. Men say that one day that

0:53:06.400 --> 0:53:10.160
<v Speaker 19>lagoon will devour you. They say it will gnaw at

0:53:10.200 --> 0:53:12.960
<v Speaker 19>the shoreline, two at the roots of your bread fruit trees,

0:53:13.040 --> 0:53:15.799
<v Speaker 19>gulp down rows of sea walls, and crunch through your

0:53:15.840 --> 0:53:20.520
<v Speaker 19>island shattered bones. They say you, your daughter and your

0:53:20.520 --> 0:53:25.920
<v Speaker 19>granddaughter too, will wander rootless, with only a passport to

0:53:26.000 --> 0:53:32.400
<v Speaker 19>call home. Dear Mante felip Benam, don't cry. Mommy promises

0:53:32.480 --> 0:53:36.360
<v Speaker 19>you no one will come and devour you. No greedy

0:53:36.400 --> 0:53:40.440
<v Speaker 19>wail of a company sharking through political seas, no backwater

0:53:40.520 --> 0:53:45.480
<v Speaker 19>bullying of businesses with broken morals, no blindfolded bureaucracies gonna

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<v Speaker 19>push this mother ocean over the edge. No one's drowning, baby,

0:53:51.000 --> 0:53:55.160
<v Speaker 19>no one's moving, No one's losing their homeland. No one's

0:53:55.520 --> 0:54:00.759
<v Speaker 19>becoming a climate change refugee, or should I say no

0:54:00.840 --> 0:54:05.160
<v Speaker 19>one else? To the Carteret Islanders of Papua New Guinea

0:54:05.640 --> 0:54:08.319
<v Speaker 19>and to the Tarot Islanders of Fiji, I take this

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<v Speaker 19>moment to apologize to you. We are drawing the line

0:54:12.760 --> 0:54:17.600
<v Speaker 19>here because we baby are going to fight your mommy, daddy,

0:54:17.640 --> 0:54:20.520
<v Speaker 19>booboo dema, your country and your president too. We will

0:54:20.560 --> 0:54:24.920
<v Speaker 19>all fight. And even though there are those hidden behind

0:54:24.960 --> 0:54:29.120
<v Speaker 19>platinum titles who like to pretend that we don't exist,

0:54:29.480 --> 0:54:34.800
<v Speaker 19>who like to pretend that the Marshall Islands, Tuvalu, Kidobas, Maldives, Typhoon,

0:54:34.840 --> 0:54:39.319
<v Speaker 19>Hayan and the Philippines, floods of Algeria, Colombia, Pakistan, and

0:54:39.400 --> 0:54:42.040
<v Speaker 19>all the hurricanes, earthquakes.

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<v Speaker 16>And tidal waves didn't exist.

0:54:45.400 --> 0:54:52.000
<v Speaker 19>Still there are those who see us, hands reaching out, fists,

0:54:52.080 --> 0:54:58.480
<v Speaker 19>raising up, banners, unfurling, megaphones booming, and we are canoes

0:54:58.520 --> 0:55:02.359
<v Speaker 19>blocking coat ships. We are are the radiance of solar villages.

0:55:02.719 --> 0:55:06.080
<v Speaker 19>We are the fresh clean soil of the farmer's past.

0:55:06.600 --> 0:55:12.960
<v Speaker 19>We are teenagers blooming petitions. We are families biking, recycling, reusing,

0:55:13.440 --> 0:55:19.040
<v Speaker 19>engineers building, dreaming, designing, artists, painting, dancing, writing, and we

0:55:19.200 --> 0:55:23.400
<v Speaker 19>are spreading the word. And there are thousands out on

0:55:23.520 --> 0:55:28.440
<v Speaker 19>the streets marching hand in hand, chanting for change now.

0:55:29.320 --> 0:55:33.440
<v Speaker 19>And they're marching for you, baby, They're marching for us,

0:55:34.200 --> 0:55:38.920
<v Speaker 19>because we deserve to do more than just survive. We

0:55:39.040 --> 0:55:45.319
<v Speaker 19>deserve to thrive. Dear mate, Felivinum. Your eyes heavy with

0:55:45.440 --> 0:55:49.880
<v Speaker 19>drowsy weight, So just close those eyes and sleep in peace,

0:55:50.680 --> 0:55:52.240
<v Speaker 19>because we won't let you down.

0:55:53.360 --> 0:56:21.440
<v Speaker 2>You'll see United Airlines Flight one five four starts a Honolulu.

0:56:21.880 --> 0:56:23.719
<v Speaker 2>When it leaves, it carries not only a full load

0:56:23.760 --> 0:56:26.440
<v Speaker 2>of passages, but also a mechanic and spare parts for

0:56:26.480 --> 0:56:30.520
<v Speaker 2>the plane. On its journey, it stops in the Marshall

0:56:30.560 --> 0:56:33.719
<v Speaker 2>Islands at Marjora and Quadrilin before heading west to make

0:56:33.760 --> 0:56:37.240
<v Speaker 2>three stops in Micronesia, and finally it stops in Gua.

0:56:38.000 --> 0:56:40.399
<v Speaker 2>The next day, it turns around does the same route

0:56:40.440 --> 0:56:43.360
<v Speaker 2>in a reverse landing. In Marjoro, you can see the

0:56:43.360 --> 0:56:46.920
<v Speaker 2>ocean on both sides of the plane. In fact, you

0:56:46.920 --> 0:56:48.799
<v Speaker 2>can see the ocean on both sides of the plane

0:56:48.800 --> 0:56:52.160
<v Speaker 2>from a disturbingly low height, and despite this being one

0:56:52.160 --> 0:56:54.840
<v Speaker 2>of the larger islands in the Marshall Islands, it almost

0:56:54.840 --> 0:56:56.640
<v Speaker 2>looks like the plane won't fit on it without a

0:56:56.640 --> 0:57:00.000
<v Speaker 2>wingtip overhanging the lagoon. The plane does fit, of course,

0:57:00.280 --> 0:57:02.360
<v Speaker 2>and there's even room left at major airport for the

0:57:02.400 --> 0:57:06.040
<v Speaker 2>best airport bar that I've ever seen. But even after

0:57:06.040 --> 0:57:07.720
<v Speaker 2>a couple of hours in the company of the island's

0:57:07.760 --> 0:57:11.240
<v Speaker 2>finest whiskey collection, it's very clear that the Marshall Islands

0:57:11.239 --> 0:57:13.000
<v Speaker 2>are in a great deal of danger when it comes

0:57:13.040 --> 0:57:16.120
<v Speaker 2>to rising sea levels. The Marshall Islands don't have much

0:57:16.200 --> 0:57:18.680
<v Speaker 2>land to begin with, and through no fault of their own,

0:57:18.960 --> 0:57:22.160
<v Speaker 2>their island paradise is being gradually lost to the ocean

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<v Speaker 2>start with. I want to let Kathy Gentle Kitchener, the

0:57:25.920 --> 0:57:28.920
<v Speaker 2>poet who he heard from yesterday, outline the scale of

0:57:28.920 --> 0:57:29.400
<v Speaker 2>the threat.

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<v Speaker 19>Climate change is a challenge that few want to take on,

0:57:33.280 --> 0:57:36.920
<v Speaker 19>but the price of inaction is so high. Those of

0:57:37.000 --> 0:57:41.800
<v Speaker 19>us from Oceania are already experiencing it firsthand. We've seen

0:57:41.880 --> 0:57:44.760
<v Speaker 19>waves crashing into our homes and our bread fruit trees

0:57:44.800 --> 0:57:47.720
<v Speaker 19>wither from the salt and drought. We look at our

0:57:47.800 --> 0:57:50.720
<v Speaker 19>children and wonder how they will know themselves or their

0:57:50.760 --> 0:57:55.760
<v Speaker 19>culture should we lose our islands. Climate change affects not

0:57:55.800 --> 0:58:00.920
<v Speaker 19>only US islanders, it threatens the entire world. To tackle it,

0:58:00.920 --> 0:58:02.120
<v Speaker 19>we need a radical change.

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<v Speaker 13>Of course, this isn't easy.

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<v Speaker 11>I know.

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<v Speaker 19>It means ending carbon pollution within my lifetime. It means

0:58:09.920 --> 0:58:13.600
<v Speaker 19>supporting those of us most affected to prepare for unavoidable

0:58:13.600 --> 0:58:18.760
<v Speaker 19>climate impacts, and it means taking responsibility for irreversible loss

0:58:18.760 --> 0:58:23.000
<v Speaker 19>and damage caused by greenhouse gas emissions. The people who

0:58:23.000 --> 0:58:27.840
<v Speaker 19>support this movement are indigenous mothers like me, families like mine,

0:58:27.920 --> 0:58:32.000
<v Speaker 19>and millions more, standing up for the changes needed and

0:58:32.120 --> 0:58:35.920
<v Speaker 19>working to make them happen. I ask world leaders to

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<v Speaker 19>take us all along.

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<v Speaker 18>On your ride.

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<v Speaker 13>We won't slow you down.

0:58:40.880 --> 0:58:43.600
<v Speaker 19>Will help you win the most important race of all,

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<v Speaker 19>the race to save humanity.

0:58:47.320 --> 0:58:50.800
<v Speaker 2>Currently, Pacific island nations are responsible for less than zero

0:58:50.920 --> 0:58:54.360
<v Speaker 2>points zero three percent of global greenhouse gas emissions, but

0:58:54.440 --> 0:58:57.880
<v Speaker 2>the United Elations estimates that more than fifty thousand people

0:58:58.000 --> 0:59:00.640
<v Speaker 2>in the Pacific displaced every year, many of them by

0:59:00.640 --> 0:59:05.120
<v Speaker 2>climate change. Of course, people leave for other reasons. Perhaps

0:59:05.160 --> 0:59:06.919
<v Speaker 2>they're looking for work, which can be hard to find

0:59:06.960 --> 0:59:09.560
<v Speaker 2>on a small Island, or perhaps they want the opportunities

0:59:09.560 --> 0:59:12.920
<v Speaker 2>at the United States life offers. Thanks to their compact

0:59:12.920 --> 0:59:15.720
<v Speaker 2>of free association, Marshalise people can live and work in

0:59:15.760 --> 0:59:19.240
<v Speaker 2>the USA without a visa. Most marshal These people who

0:59:19.280 --> 0:59:22.720
<v Speaker 2>do leave the islands move to Springdale, Arkansas. It's where

0:59:22.720 --> 0:59:26.200
<v Speaker 2>the largest off island Marshallyse community is gathered, and they

0:59:26.240 --> 0:59:28.400
<v Speaker 2>tend to cluster around the reliable jobs offered by the

0:59:28.440 --> 0:59:32.440
<v Speaker 2>Tyson Chicken Factory. In twenty twenty, the Tyson Chicken Factory

0:59:32.440 --> 0:59:35.080
<v Speaker 2>remained open during lockdowns, and people who had left the

0:59:35.120 --> 0:59:37.360
<v Speaker 2>islands for a more steady income and a better chance

0:59:37.400 --> 0:59:40.840
<v Speaker 2>for a stable future suddenly face more great risks at work.

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<v Speaker 2>Life is by no means easy for marshal Ease people,

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<v Speaker 2>both in the US and at home, and the choices

0:59:46.880 --> 0:59:50.600
<v Speaker 2>they face because of climate change constricting global economy and

0:59:50.640 --> 0:59:52.800
<v Speaker 2>the United States refusing to pay its fair share of

0:59:52.800 --> 0:59:56.720
<v Speaker 2>compensation don't make that any easier. On my last night

0:59:56.800 --> 0:59:58.720
<v Speaker 2>in the Marshall Islands, I was having a beer in

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<v Speaker 2>a bar and chatting with a local journalists. I asked

1:00:02.320 --> 1:00:04.479
<v Speaker 2>him what I should write. He said that I needed

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<v Speaker 2>to tell you that people in the rami aren't moving

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<v Speaker 2>because they're afraid of waves. We're not afraid of the ocean,

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<v Speaker 2>he said. We're ocean people. We go in the ocean

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<v Speaker 2>every day. He was right, of course. The drivers of

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<v Speaker 2>migration are complicated, and they always have been. I always

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<v Speaker 2>tell people who ask me what I cover that they

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<v Speaker 2>cover climate and conflict and migration, because in fact they're

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<v Speaker 2>largely the same things. There are many reasons for migrating

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<v Speaker 2>from the Marshall Islands if there are people who have left,

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<v Speaker 2>and all of them are valid. But everyone I spoke to,

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<v Speaker 2>whether they'd left or come back or stayed there their

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<v Speaker 2>whole lives, were pretty clear that nobody wants the community

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<v Speaker 2>to leave. The people of the Marshall Islands love their

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<v Speaker 2>islands and they want to raise their children and grandchildren

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<v Speaker 2>on their ancestral land. But the people making the choices

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<v Speaker 2>that impact their ability to do that are a long

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<v Speaker 2>way from the lagoon that's creeping closer and closer to

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<v Speaker 2>the houses around magro at All. Climate change making the

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<v Speaker 2>islands unhabit doesn't necessarily mean they'll be swallowed entirely by

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<v Speaker 2>the ocean. Long before the last scrap of land disappears.

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<v Speaker 2>The rising saltwater will kill bread fruit trees, and flooding

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<v Speaker 2>will destroy homes. To get a scent of that threat,

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<v Speaker 2>we spoke to a meteorologist.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm regally white, regional white, and I'm the meteorologist in charge.

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<v Speaker 2>Here ready explained what climate change might do to make

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<v Speaker 2>the islands less easy to live on and eventually perhaps

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<v Speaker 2>impossible to live on. If something doesn't change. It's hard

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<v Speaker 2>for people to see these kind of creeping changes. When

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<v Speaker 2>we think about climate change rendering an island uninhabitable, we

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<v Speaker 2>think about the island ceasing to exist, or the house

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<v Speaker 2>is being swept away by a storm surge or a

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<v Speaker 2>massive king tide. Perhaps, but in fact the changes are

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<v Speaker 2>more gradual, but no less destructive.

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<v Speaker 5>We have to go back to the emasion scenarios that

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<v Speaker 5>IP is produced, and based on them worst case scenario,

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<v Speaker 5>if we look at it, I have to open up

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<v Speaker 5>the computer at the table. But in one hundred years

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<v Speaker 5>we may be not completely stening, and that's not what's

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<v Speaker 5>important here. What is important is the islands.

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<v Speaker 20>Will be uninevitable way before they sink, because we will

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<v Speaker 20>not be able to drive on the road, we will

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<v Speaker 20>not be able to rely on our water lenses, because

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<v Speaker 20>they'll all have salt water into them.

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<v Speaker 5>As more and more frequent salt water intros and get

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<v Speaker 5>on top and down into the water lens, they will

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<v Speaker 5>be undrinkable. So at what stage can we put that target.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not comfortable at this moment to point that out,

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<v Speaker 5>but I think anyone of us can look at the

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<v Speaker 5>numbers and decide, based on this emission scenario, this is

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<v Speaker 5>the day. Based on that the mission scenario, that is

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<v Speaker 5>the day. So there's not a set day or a

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<v Speaker 5>what do you call it? The hair that broke the

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<v Speaker 5>camel's back? What was it? What was the American saying?

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<v Speaker 2>As Reggie explained, the impact of rising sea levels is

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<v Speaker 2>already being seen, particularly in the case of flooding.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, there are many but in a low lying at

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<v Speaker 5>all you're most concerned is flooding, coastal flooding. So we've

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<v Speaker 5>seen more frequent flooding during Landinia. Landinea is the face

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<v Speaker 5>where in the Marshall Islands, specifically, you get elevated sea

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<v Speaker 5>levels about ten centimeters or so eight to twelve inches

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<v Speaker 5>on top of the normal sea level at any given time.

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<v Speaker 5>So when there is a storm, search king tide, those

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<v Speaker 5>things compound on one another to give us more frequent

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<v Speaker 5>coastal floodings in the low lying areas. If you go

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<v Speaker 5>in the bag of Measuro, you will see people building

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<v Speaker 5>up sea walls to protect their properties. With those sea walls,

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<v Speaker 5>the impact there's been lessened a bit, but without those

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<v Speaker 5>walls now sence flooding has been almost a monthly occurrence

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<v Speaker 5>during allninial phases.

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<v Speaker 2>In twenty twenty one, the World Bank and the Marshalleasee

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<v Speaker 2>government produced a report which allowed visualization of the impact

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<v Speaker 2>of climate change on each building in Marjuro in broad strokes.

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<v Speaker 2>The report stated that quote rising sea levels and the

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<v Speaker 2>atoll nation of the Marshall Islands are projected to endanger

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<v Speaker 2>forty percent of existing buildings in the capitol Marjoro, with

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<v Speaker 2>ninety six percent of the city at risk for frequent

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<v Speaker 2>flooding introduced by climate change. According to a World Bank study,

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<v Speaker 2>change seems to be very hard for the corporations and

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<v Speaker 2>governments most responsible for it. Indeed, one could argue that

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<v Speaker 2>seeing that change is hard because of those corporations and governments.

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<v Speaker 2>Namia Rescuers, a Harvard historian of science, studies the propaganda

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<v Speaker 2>that has allowed major corporations to deny the damage they

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<v Speaker 2>do to the planet and generate massive profits by not

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<v Speaker 2>paying for the negative xconalities of their actions. Negative excenalities,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're not familiar, are the costs that their business

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<v Speaker 2>imposes on other people but they don't pay. In her

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<v Speaker 2>book Merchants of Doubt, Arescus traces how nuclear testing did

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<v Speaker 2>huge damage to the ozone layer. Indeed, much of the

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<v Speaker 2>technology we used today to track global climate change was

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<v Speaker 2>developed using government money. Part of the reason why was

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<v Speaker 2>to assess with the Soviet Union was doing nuclear testing

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<v Speaker 2>by tracking the environmental damage that was done. Using some

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<v Speaker 2>of the data these instruments created, scientists, among them Carl Sagan,

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<v Speaker 2>began to discuss the possibility of a nuclear winter and

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that any use of nuclear weapons or even

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<v Speaker 2>a nuclear accident could put the future of all humanity

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<v Speaker 2>at risk. Unsurprisingly, as huge public relations ever spun up

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<v Speaker 2>to dismiss the idea of nuclear winter and attack the

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<v Speaker 2>concept of nuclear war being an unwinnable proposition. There was,

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<v Speaker 2>after all, a huge amount of money at stick. In

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<v Speaker 2>an excellent New York caressing on the subject, Jill Lapour,

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<v Speaker 2>another Harvard historian, outlines a campaign to discredit those scientists

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<v Speaker 2>and their claims. In nineteen eighty four, in an effort

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<v Speaker 2>to count to Carl Sagan and to defend what was

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<v Speaker 2>called the Strategic Defense Initiative, the George C. Marshall Institute

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<v Speaker 2>was founded by Robert Jastro, a NASA physicist, Frederick Seitz,

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<v Speaker 2>a former president of the National Academy of Sciences, and

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<v Speaker 2>William Nihrenberg, a past director at the Script's Institute of Oceanography.

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<v Speaker 2>Right here where I live in San Diego. The Marshall

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<v Speaker 2>Institute began trying to get PBS to not air documentaries

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<v Speaker 2>opposing the Strategic Defense initiative. The so called star Wars

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<v Speaker 2>program wouldn't be of any use of a single nuclear

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<v Speaker 2>incident could trigger devastating change in the global climate. Another

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<v Speaker 2>Master Institute scientist, Seltz's cousin Russell, who was a physicist

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<v Speaker 2>at Harvard Center for International Affairs, published an essay in

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<v Speaker 2>the National Interest in the fall of nineteen eighty six

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<v Speaker 2>dismissing the idea of nuclear winter and saying it was

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<v Speaker 2>nothing but a series of long conjectures. He described vibes

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<v Speaker 2>the nuclear winter theory as dead course of death, notorious

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<v Speaker 2>lack of scientific integrity. By nineteen eighty eight, the Institute

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<v Speaker 2>have pivoted and it began publishing the first of many

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<v Speaker 2>papers on climate change. Other scientists there, including Fred Singer,

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<v Speaker 2>challenged the model that predicted a nuclear winter. They've gone

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<v Speaker 2>on to do the same with climate change, claiming that

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<v Speaker 2>in both cases it was far from certain that catastrophic

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<v Speaker 2>consequences would occur. Singer incidentally was a consultant for Arco, Exxon,

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<v Speaker 2>Shell Oil, and sol Oil. He died in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>after serving for years as a director of Science and

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<v Speaker 2>environment policy at the Heartland Institute, which was founded in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty four. Its position on global warming at the

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<v Speaker 2>time was quote most scientists do not believe human greenhouse

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<v Speaker 2>gas emissions are a proven threat to the environment or

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<v Speaker 2>human well being, despite a barrage of propaganda insisting otherwise

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<v Speaker 2>coming from the environmental movement and eco by its sick

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<v Speaker 2>ephants in the mainstream media. In the Marshall Islands, this

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<v Speaker 2>kind of de nihilism, no matter how well funded and qualified,

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<v Speaker 2>really isn't going to stick. Everyone here is personally seen

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<v Speaker 2>the impacts of rising sea levels eroding away on their

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<v Speaker 2>precious land, but it's the actions of people everywhere that

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<v Speaker 2>impact people here, so they have to persuade the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of the world to care about them.

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<v Speaker 5>I will bet that every Marshal Marshalise understand impacts because

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<v Speaker 5>every Marshalise has been a victim of some coastal inovision,

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<v Speaker 5>has been you know, has been impacted by those, so

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<v Speaker 5>they understand.

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<v Speaker 21>Uh.

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<v Speaker 5>The youngest ones maybe they experienced there first, but the

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<v Speaker 5>older ones, they've been around during those days when there,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, coastal flooding wasn't an issue.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things I like to do in my

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<v Speaker 2>free time is to freedom. Sometimes I can collect sea

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<v Speaker 2>urchins or cool shells, but lots of the time I

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<v Speaker 2>just like to be underwater. I've never done scuba diving.

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<v Speaker 2>All the gear and equipment kind of scares me, but

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<v Speaker 2>holding my breath and swimming around the reef is probably

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<v Speaker 2>the closest thing I'll ever feel to flying. To be

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<v Speaker 2>able to hold your breath for a minute or two underwater,

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<v Speaker 2>you need to get your heart rate very low, and

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<v Speaker 2>this means being very calm, letting tension and stress float away.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a magical feeling and one that I've tapped into

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<v Speaker 2>even outside the water. In stressful situations. Sometimes that ability

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<v Speaker 2>to calm yourself could be a bit too effective. I

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<v Speaker 2>remember once starting to walk off a broken pelvis and

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<v Speaker 2>passing out from blood loss later. Sometimes that calm focus, though,

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<v Speaker 2>can be exactly what you need, Like when you're holding

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<v Speaker 2>your breath on the bottom of the ocean and you

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<v Speaker 2>realize that you got your fins tangled and abandoned fishing

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<v Speaker 2>line and you need to cut it so you can

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<v Speaker 2>get back to the surface and breathe. I saw that

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<v Speaker 2>same ability to remain calm and even happy despite what

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<v Speaker 2>seems like another impending crisis every time I spoke to

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<v Speaker 2>marshal Lease people about climate change. Between their nuclear past

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<v Speaker 2>and their perilous future, the Marshalise people have every right

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<v Speaker 2>to be angry, and maybe they are angry when they're

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<v Speaker 2>not told them to British journalists. But whenever I ask people,

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<v Speaker 2>they still seem hopeful, upbeat and excited about the future

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<v Speaker 2>of their country. As we're going to see tomorrow, marshal

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<v Speaker 2>Le's people are still very much investing in their shared future.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's something we can all learn from. Resilience

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<v Speaker 2>to the Marshallei's community, even in the face of what

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<v Speaker 2>seems like a second apocalyptic threat. He's Reggie discussing how

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<v Speaker 2>climate change makes him feel well.

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<v Speaker 5>I try not to dwell on what could happen. I

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<v Speaker 5>could try to think of what we could do now

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<v Speaker 5>to change people's heart, to change how we behave while

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<v Speaker 5>we treat the world. I mean, it's our only home.

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<v Speaker 5>You go out in space and look back. It's one

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<v Speaker 5>lonely place in an entire galaxy of stars and whatever.

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<v Speaker 5>You But when you look at it that way, you

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<v Speaker 5>begin to realize I must respect my police. Who else

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<v Speaker 5>will respect? The divide?

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<v Speaker 2>It's worth noting that some people we talk to concerned

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<v Speaker 2>about climate change.

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<v Speaker 22>My name is Juliet Miranda from Mussel Island. I live

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<v Speaker 22>on Takhan.

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<v Speaker 2>Juliet's an older resident of wrong Rum, one of the

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<v Speaker 2>outer islands on madro At. All her life there is

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<v Speaker 2>in many senses adyllic. Her cook house is built around

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<v Speaker 2>a large breadfruit tree. The tree also serves as a

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<v Speaker 2>work service. It's like a solar punk vision of the

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<v Speaker 2>future where we live in harmony with nature. But for

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<v Speaker 2>her it's just a place she makes lunch along with

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<v Speaker 2>the other wrong Wung islanders. She served a visiting group

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<v Speaker 2>that I was part of a delicious lunch of coconut breadfruit, pandanas,

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<v Speaker 2>crabs and rice. Well, we talked about what brought her

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<v Speaker 2>back to the Marshall Islands after thirty years living in

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<v Speaker 2>the United States.

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<v Speaker 22>Well, so, though you always are own sick when I'm

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<v Speaker 22>in USA, I miss my you know, around freedom, like USA,

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<v Speaker 22>you cannot go the next door. It goes trust passing.

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<v Speaker 22>But around here you do everything.

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<v Speaker 14>Yes, it's it's different, lots different.

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<v Speaker 22>So I love the USA. Tell lives could and a

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<v Speaker 22>lot of different things youis do then modules so I

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<v Speaker 22>love it here. I do all my old thing I

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<v Speaker 22>usually do, breaking and make my home chicken and join

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<v Speaker 22>me and on pigeon. Santa Barbara, you have to get

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<v Speaker 22>a guy good.

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<v Speaker 15>Go to the peach over year reporting beach.

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<v Speaker 2>She clearly loves her little piece of paradise, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>easy to see why she was happy to share it

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<v Speaker 2>with us, as were all the islands. On Wrong Wrong

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<v Speaker 2>a short walk away from her house, Her neighbor's children

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<v Speaker 2>played in the sand with their pigs, chickens and dogs,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's certainly a very different place from Santa Barbara.

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<v Speaker 18>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>She spent much of her time in the United States,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's no less special. Like many Marshal LEAs. She

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<v Speaker 2>has a very strong faith and that faith is helping

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<v Speaker 2>her explain why climate change is happening.

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<v Speaker 17>Do you think it's because their sea levels rising?

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<v Speaker 8>You can get gotta make it harder for people.

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<v Speaker 22>To live in Some people do that, but I don't

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<v Speaker 22>believe in Only God will do it.

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<v Speaker 15>I believe in God.

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<v Speaker 22>When they do the weather and said it's going to

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<v Speaker 22>rain tomorrow and tomorrow is not going to be raining.

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<v Speaker 22>God's going to make it rain, the nost No, you

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<v Speaker 22>know it, you're mister.

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<v Speaker 2>For others, the threat is already here. Here's one conversation

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<v Speaker 2>with Monique and Francine from Core and Akram, a local

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<v Speaker 2>NGO who you'll hear a lot about tomorrow. They're doing

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<v Speaker 2>incredible work investing in the future of the Marshall Islands

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<v Speaker 2>by installing water filters and smokeless stoves and homes across

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<v Speaker 2>the nation. You might never have had to worry about

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<v Speaker 2>clean water or never been concerned, but cooking your food

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<v Speaker 2>might hurt your lungs. But both of those things are

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<v Speaker 2>massive public health issues. We don't have access to electricity,

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<v Speaker 2>gas and clean water from a pipe that comes into

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<v Speaker 2>your home. One night before dinner, we talked to them

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<v Speaker 2>about climate change.

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<v Speaker 23>The scientists are saying that you've got so many years

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<v Speaker 23>until all eyes melts and affects us. We don't have

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<v Speaker 23>mountains to run to. In some places they can just

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<v Speaker 23>front of the mountains.

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<v Speaker 10>We don't.

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<v Speaker 17>Yeah, so it's Marshall Islands.

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<v Speaker 14>We're at the front.

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<v Speaker 23>Clients, so you're also blessed that you get to see

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<v Speaker 23>the Marshall Islands.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I really will really see firsthand what the pass the.

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<v Speaker 2>Impact goes beyond the individual though. When we heard from

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<v Speaker 2>the Ministry of Health and the impact the climate change

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<v Speaker 2>is already having on the well being of marshal Ly's people,

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<v Speaker 2>they reminded us of both the physical and mental health

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<v Speaker 2>of residents has been affected.

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<v Speaker 24>So well, yeah, well, as active secretary is my name

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<v Speaker 24>is Nathan Carbon and Climate Change and Admin.

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<v Speaker 18>Uh.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, first of all.

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<v Speaker 25>We'll come to to visit us.

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<v Speaker 26>I think Michael Jackson has said in best do you

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<v Speaker 26>want to see change in the world, you have to

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<v Speaker 26>look in the mirror.

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<v Speaker 9>So this is our Climate Change in Health department.

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<v Speaker 25>Uh uh, climate impacts on health and well being.

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<v Speaker 2>Nathan went on to explain what that means both in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of mental health and in physical health, as mosquitoes

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<v Speaker 2>and other disease vectors adapted to change in climate and

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<v Speaker 2>rising sea.

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<v Speaker 25>Levels, I communicable diseases and xdise reducing vulnerabilities with the

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<v Speaker 25>vector borne diseases and then improving mental health resilience. So

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<v Speaker 25>the mental health resilience is a really key them. We

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<v Speaker 25>have our seminar that's ongoing right now partnership with Jojugu,

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<v Speaker 25>which lets the youth express how climate change makes their

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<v Speaker 25>feel and also.

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<v Speaker 26>Involving the community and getting their feedback. You know, the

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<v Speaker 26>climate issue is not just at a national level, it's

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<v Speaker 26>mostly at the community level.

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<v Speaker 2>All of these changes are hard to predict, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>easy to see the impact climate change has already had.

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<v Speaker 2>We spoke to the island's Environmental Rotection Agency to get

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<v Speaker 2>a sense of what that meant.

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<v Speaker 27>My name is Marianna Phillip and I'm the general manager here.

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<v Speaker 10>As you can see, we're a very.

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<v Speaker 27>Small organization with a very broad mandate anything environmental related.

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<v Speaker 27>We are accountable too, and we're supposed to provide advice

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<v Speaker 27>to the government and the Marshal Lease.

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<v Speaker 10>People about new issues that are coming up.

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<v Speaker 9>And so.

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<v Speaker 28>You know, we're easily overwhelmed and outmatched, and then, you know,

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<v Speaker 28>you throw in climate change into the mix, and suddenly.

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<v Speaker 10>I can't even imagine what the change is going to

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<v Speaker 10>be like in the next five years or ten years.

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<v Speaker 10>It's hard for me to imagine. When I was a child,

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<v Speaker 10>I used to.

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<v Speaker 27>Go to the school across the street is a DS

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<v Speaker 27>is a public school, and we would cross the road

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<v Speaker 27>and swim from here all the way to develop and

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<v Speaker 27>then cross the road and go home. This was all

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<v Speaker 27>white Sandy Beach. You know, obviously that's not the case anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>One way that the marshal Least community has responded to

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<v Speaker 2>climate change is to take a position of leadership on

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<v Speaker 2>mitigating carbon emissions. We heard about this all over the island,

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<v Speaker 2>with solutions ranging from electric canoes to sailboats to a

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<v Speaker 2>grid that runs on renewable energy. They've also taken leadership

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<v Speaker 2>and how aid money is spent. Rather than just accepting

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<v Speaker 2>the projects as founders suggest them, the RMI has been

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<v Speaker 2>vocal in making sure that the unique challenges that they

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<v Speaker 2>face are reflected with unique solutions that they propose. For example,

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<v Speaker 2>they simply don't have the space for larger solar farms

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<v Speaker 2>even though they do have the funding.

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<v Speaker 14>My name is Angeline Heini Rimmers.

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<v Speaker 12>Other than being part of GEO, I'm also the director

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<v Speaker 12>for the National Energy Office, and then I'd like to

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<v Speaker 12>introduce you to Ben. He's the deputy director. So we're

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<v Speaker 12>a very small office. It's newly created. It was developed

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<v Speaker 12>in twenty eighteen, so we're trying to be creative and

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<v Speaker 12>we partnered with our local government in exchange building them

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<v Speaker 12>basketball courts. The reason why there's so many basketball courts

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<v Speaker 12>is that we'll be installing rooftop and on the rooftop

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<v Speaker 12>that's we're going to be housing the solar, connecting it

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<v Speaker 12>to the grid. And it's with this project we had.

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<v Speaker 12>It took us I think more than a year. Ben

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<v Speaker 12>right so went back and forth with our partner because

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<v Speaker 12>they just wanted to go ahead and put on solar.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes the scale live the programs larger countries use simply

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<v Speaker 2>isn't a good fit for the marshals.

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<v Speaker 12>We get funding to go on trips to places like Korea, Japan,

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<v Speaker 12>Okinawa to see all these systems that in the eyes

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<v Speaker 12>of big countries that you see as islands like Jju

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<v Speaker 12>Island and Korea, but they're like so advanced compared to here.

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<v Speaker 13>You go there and.

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<v Speaker 12>They have ocean thermal and to us where like, okay,

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<v Speaker 12>what about our corals that's where our reefish lives in.

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<v Speaker 13>Do we have to get rid of our corals?

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<v Speaker 18>Maybe we should rethink of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Or they also make sure to incorporate traditional methods and

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<v Speaker 2>their culture along with m modern solutions.

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<v Speaker 17>I want to love more about the electric canoes that

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<v Speaker 17>they are very pretty.

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<v Speaker 21>Cool and.

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<v Speaker 17>I'm interested to know, like a well, Jeremy area, like

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<v Speaker 17>that you were incorporating in the traditional ways white ignoring,

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<v Speaker 17>because that's something that the entry community. That's something that

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<v Speaker 17>was framed up here at the wham. And can you

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<v Speaker 17>talk about how surfused completion and how much fun it

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<v Speaker 17>might save.

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<v Speaker 12>Then do you want to start without who came up

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<v Speaker 12>with the idea for the and and then where we

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<v Speaker 12>are at?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, So WALM started the initiative of the boat building

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<v Speaker 6>and they wanted to it strictly started with womb. We

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<v Speaker 6>we had no idea about that project. But initially they

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<v Speaker 6>got a project from a donor for boat building where

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<v Speaker 6>they would modernize these traditional canoes just to make modifications

1:21:52.160 --> 1:21:54.560
<v Speaker 6>to like make the hull bigger for catching fish or

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<v Speaker 6>just whatnot. And then out of the blue, the director

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<v Speaker 6>for WAM said, hey, what if we put solar on

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<v Speaker 6>this boat. I think there's something in the market. So

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<v Speaker 6>we just out of the blow just wanted to test it. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 6>when we purchased the motor and they're going to start

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<v Speaker 6>the testing, WAM burned down and the motor burned down

1:22:18.280 --> 1:22:22.320
<v Speaker 6>with it. But they did a few runs in the lagoon.

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<v Speaker 13>With it and it was really awesome. I wrote on it.

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<v Speaker 6>At one point they started using wind and the wind

1:22:28.320 --> 1:22:31.120
<v Speaker 6>died down, turned on the motor, and they started using

1:22:31.160 --> 1:22:33.320
<v Speaker 6>the motor, and then one pick up they turned off

1:22:33.360 --> 1:22:37.680
<v Speaker 6>the motor. It was really awesome. But we Anio, the

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<v Speaker 6>director wanted to procure another one, so we procured another

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<v Speaker 6>one with our own funds. So it's on its way

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<v Speaker 6>and it should be here very shortly to do some

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<v Speaker 6>real testing. Nice, but we wanted we also partnered with

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<v Speaker 6>WAM because of that just pilot project. We saw the

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<v Speaker 6>need to build more of the similar kind canoe, so

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<v Speaker 6>we we ask another donor if we can use their

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<v Speaker 6>funding to fund the second phase of that project. So

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<v Speaker 6>right now they've been approved and they're building an additional

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<v Speaker 6>eighteen more canoes for each each island. And so the

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<v Speaker 6>process is they bring in these boat builders from the

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<v Speaker 6>outer islands, they train them how they build these new

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<v Speaker 6>style canoes with modern technology, and then they ship it

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<v Speaker 6>back out. One success story without the motor is in

1:23:30.439 --> 1:23:38.000
<v Speaker 6>the atoll of Linkyap. They completely stop using their motorized

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<v Speaker 6>boat because they're one hundred percent using the canoe, and

1:23:42.280 --> 1:23:45.160
<v Speaker 6>the canoe can carry up to a ton. So they've

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<v Speaker 6>been carrying copra from one island to another, back and

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<v Speaker 6>forth with the canoe, and they said they'd save so

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<v Speaker 6>much money that they decided to do a fishing tournament

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<v Speaker 6>at their outer island from.

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<v Speaker 13>The money they save.

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<v Speaker 2>You he's right talking about how he sees his role

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<v Speaker 2>in combating climate change.

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<v Speaker 18>Oh.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't enjoy being helpless. I don't believe that the

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<v Speaker 5>impacts of others, should you know, impact me. I make

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<v Speaker 5>the changes where I can. I try to behave in

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<v Speaker 5>a manner that is not detrimental to the earth. And

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<v Speaker 5>I preach that to my kids and hopefully the compounding

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<v Speaker 5>effect or you know, it will grow exponentially from them

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<v Speaker 5>to other ambassadors to spread the word that you know,

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<v Speaker 5>we need to do something. It's not about politics and

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<v Speaker 5>it's about you know, the your overhead or how much

1:24:47.479 --> 1:24:49.680
<v Speaker 5>profit you gain at the end of the day, it's

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<v Speaker 5>about how you gain those by, you know, being a

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<v Speaker 5>good ambassador to preserving the earth and the climate, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>all the all the other inhabitants, not just humans.

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<v Speaker 2>Wherever we went in the Republic of the Marshall Islands,

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<v Speaker 2>it was hard to find dooming gloom with regards to

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<v Speaker 2>climate change. What we found everywhere was people adapting and

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<v Speaker 2>making changes, both the kind of changes that reduce their

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<v Speaker 2>carbon emissions and the kind that made their homes more

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<v Speaker 2>defensible because the rest of the world is not making

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<v Speaker 2>that first kind of changes. Resilience doesn't just mean sea

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<v Speaker 2>walls and houses on stilts that can withstand flood. Those

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<v Speaker 2>are important. It also means making hard choices and forming

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<v Speaker 2>strong communities. Here's Mariana again.

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<v Speaker 10>There's a lot of attention on us as frontline countries,

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<v Speaker 10>you know, in the face of climate change, and we

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<v Speaker 10>get a lot of reporters come in asking us questions.

1:25:49.439 --> 1:25:51.760
<v Speaker 10>We get a lot of consultants that come in and

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<v Speaker 10>out and collect data.

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<v Speaker 21>You know.

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<v Speaker 10>Of course we're seen as sort of the said country

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<v Speaker 10>trees that will eventually face the reality of having no

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<v Speaker 10>land to live on, right, so forced relocation, displacement. I

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<v Speaker 10>don't want to say migration, because that's not exactly a migration.

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<v Speaker 10>If you have to leave, you're you're you're being displaced.

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<v Speaker 10>Our concern is that.

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<v Speaker 6>We're not We.

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<v Speaker 27>Don't have all the capabilities in the science at our

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<v Speaker 27>fingertip to help inform the government or you know, everyone

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<v Speaker 27>interested donors about how much is changing, how much is

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<v Speaker 27>going to change, and especially.

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<v Speaker 10>How that change is going to change us.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, it's.

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<v Speaker 10>It's overwhelming. We we have a national adaptation Plan.

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<v Speaker 28>I hope that you will get into that.

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<v Speaker 27>When you get the chance to h that's the survival plan.

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<v Speaker 27>In that survival plan, there is you know, there is

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<v Speaker 27>very scary reality that we may need to take down

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<v Speaker 27>some islands to elevate some islands, you know, and every

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<v Speaker 27>island have their landowners and what happens to those people.

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<v Speaker 27>Marshalis are connected to their land so much culturally, and

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<v Speaker 27>so how do we adapt to that when it comes

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<v Speaker 27>so quickly?

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<v Speaker 10>That's scary.

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<v Speaker 2>Everywhere you go in the Marshall Islands you see the

1:28:08.800 --> 1:28:12.000
<v Speaker 2>impact of climate change and rising sea levels but you

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<v Speaker 2>also see the community responding and supporting itself through the

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<v Speaker 2>existential threat. The Rami isn't a sad place, quite the opposite.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a tremendously happy and beautiful place, and I had

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<v Speaker 2>one of the most enjoyable weeks I can remember there.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd go back in a heartbeat. But the joy with

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<v Speaker 2>which people approach every day doesn't mean they aren't concerned,

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<v Speaker 2>and it certainly doesn't mean they're not worthy of our concern. Tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to discuss how the people of the Republic

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<v Speaker 2>of Marshall Lions, and in particular the women of the

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<v Speaker 2>Republic of Marshall Lions, and making sure that marshal Lei's

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<v Speaker 2>people have a safe and healthy future.

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<v Speaker 13>This is for all you guys, so you get there.

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<v Speaker 2>Twice in the week I spent on Marjorro, I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>get to sleep until after midnight because the hotel's event

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<v Speaker 2>space was about eight feet from my pillow and someone

1:29:22.600 --> 1:29:25.920
<v Speaker 2>in that event space was having an absolute rageo. Before

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<v Speaker 2>trying and failing to go to sleep, a chatter with

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<v Speaker 2>some folks who were at the party to see what

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<v Speaker 2>was going on. The first night was a first birthday party,

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<v Speaker 2>infant mortality has been so high in this area in

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<v Speaker 2>the past that children making it through the first year

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<v Speaker 2>of their life was a cause for massive celebration. It

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<v Speaker 2>was rather sweet to see adults enjoying such a good

1:29:44.280 --> 1:29:46.439
<v Speaker 2>time around a one year old who had no idea

1:29:46.479 --> 1:29:49.840
<v Speaker 2>what was going on. The next party a few days

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<v Speaker 2>later was no less festive, but for a much more

1:29:52.360 --> 1:29:55.400
<v Speaker 2>somber reason. It was a celebration to remember an eight

1:29:55.479 --> 1:29:59.120
<v Speaker 2>year old girl who died exactly one year before. People

1:29:59.200 --> 1:30:01.920
<v Speaker 2>showed me her photo, and despite my condolences, they assured

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<v Speaker 2>me that it wasn't a sad affair. I don't want

1:30:04.479 --> 1:30:07.040
<v Speaker 2>to make this series a sad affair either, because despite

1:30:07.040 --> 1:30:10.720
<v Speaker 2>the incredible challenges they have faced, Marshally's people have persevered,

1:30:11.120 --> 1:30:12.960
<v Speaker 2>and they clearly have a great pride in their islands,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't think they would want to be seen

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<v Speaker 2>as helpless and acted upon by global forces beyond their control. Instead,

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<v Speaker 2>they should be seen as a strong community that has

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<v Speaker 2>withstood some of the worst things a history can thriller

1:30:24.120 --> 1:30:29.120
<v Speaker 2>community and continue to thrive. As we spoke about yesterday,

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<v Speaker 2>they're taking huge steps to ensure that they lead the

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<v Speaker 2>way on sustainable development they're also ensuring their future in

1:30:35.520 --> 1:30:37.880
<v Speaker 2>other ways. Some of those might not be as shiny

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<v Speaker 2>and glitzy as solar power grids or canoes powered by

1:30:40.640 --> 1:30:43.280
<v Speaker 2>the sun, but which have made a huge difference to

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<v Speaker 2>the residents of the country, particularly in the outer atolls.

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<v Speaker 2>What I want to talk about today is one of

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<v Speaker 2>those projects. It's a project imagined, implemented and executed by

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<v Speaker 2>the women of Korra Inokrane. The name means women who

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<v Speaker 2>rise at dawn, and it's very appropriate every interview you've

1:31:01.479 --> 1:31:04.000
<v Speaker 2>heard so far and every place we went to thanks

1:31:04.040 --> 1:31:06.320
<v Speaker 2>to the women of Kio. The trip I was part

1:31:06.400 --> 1:31:08.719
<v Speaker 2>of was there to witness the installation of the final

1:31:08.840 --> 1:31:11.720
<v Speaker 2>water filters on the island of Wrong Room that will

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<v Speaker 2>bring to a successful conclusion a five year project to

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<v Speaker 2>ensure that every single person in the Marshall Islands had

1:31:17.360 --> 1:31:20.519
<v Speaker 2>access to clean water. I'll let them introduce themselves to

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<v Speaker 2>you as it did to us.

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<v Speaker 10>My name is Francine wasase Jacklick, but most people around

1:31:26.520 --> 1:31:29.600
<v Speaker 10>town called me, so if you hear Francine, they're not

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<v Speaker 10>going to go to this. I am a QUEU member,

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<v Speaker 10>I'm one of the officers as the secretary.

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<v Speaker 9>And I've been a queue member of gosh.

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<v Speaker 10>I can't remember when, but you know we've got we've

1:31:44.479 --> 1:31:49.479
<v Speaker 10>come along when Q is about seventeen years old, right now, wow, seventeen.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, it's been a very fund right.

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<v Speaker 10>It's my fun job outside from Kio. As my fun work,

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<v Speaker 10>I work at the Ministry of Health and Human Services.

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<v Speaker 10>My permanent position is the Deputy Secretary overseeing Office of

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<v Speaker 10>Health Planning, Policy, Preparedness, Personnel and epidem analogy. And three

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<v Speaker 10>months ago I was also given the authority rule as

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<v Speaker 10>the acting Secretary of Health because the secretary was not

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<v Speaker 10>the new politics. So yeah, Q is Q Corina Rani

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<v Speaker 10>and we're very happy because our founder is here and

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<v Speaker 10>it's money.

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<v Speaker 9>So we'll do introduction and then we'll go into the agenda.

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<v Speaker 9>Is that okay?

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<v Speaker 21>Okay?

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<v Speaker 9>So I will hand it to the back, which is

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<v Speaker 9>our founder money. Somebody go ahead, Hello everyone, Hi, welcome money.

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<v Speaker 9>I am the home founder. But enough, we're really happy

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<v Speaker 9>that you've made it.

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<v Speaker 29>You know, your flight wasn't canceled last week, so many

1:33:10.160 --> 1:33:11.440
<v Speaker 29>flights are canceled.

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<v Speaker 9>So were but welcome. In our language we say yahwey

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<v Speaker 9>yeah means rainbow and quays you. So you are a

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<v Speaker 9>rainbow to us.

1:33:26.120 --> 1:33:26.679
<v Speaker 18>I am.

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<v Speaker 9>A mother for now, I don't I don't work. Most

1:33:31.800 --> 1:33:35.920
<v Speaker 9>of us have their work, but I'm a full time

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<v Speaker 9>mother and this is.

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<v Speaker 19>My baby.

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<v Speaker 9>Actually, Kiyo started sixteen years ago. Myself and a friend.

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<v Speaker 9>We were in school in the East Coast and graduated

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<v Speaker 9>and we all came back. And you know, we were

1:33:58.080 --> 1:34:02.559
<v Speaker 9>raised with this mentality that get back. We have lots

1:34:02.600 --> 1:34:08.439
<v Speaker 9>of Marshalis proverbs and what bagayo means to turn the tides.

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<v Speaker 9>So it was our time to turn the tides.

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<v Speaker 23>So we bended together always like mine name Smart Ladies

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<v Speaker 23>and created Q and it's a volunteer organization.

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<v Speaker 9>We do this in our sleep.

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<v Speaker 29>Basically all volunteer, yes, so we do various work from

1:34:33.160 --> 1:34:36.680
<v Speaker 29>small projects like you know, reading with the kids and.

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<v Speaker 9>Just some big projects like waters water culture project. My

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<v Speaker 9>name is Kathleen.

1:34:44.760 --> 1:34:48.160
<v Speaker 10>I work for the Ministry of Natural Resources and Commerce

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<v Speaker 10>with the Fisheries.

1:34:51.880 --> 1:34:55.360
<v Speaker 9>Memora and I've been in film members since.

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<v Speaker 10>To push here were sixteen years old.

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<v Speaker 9>Then it is like moving said, it's.

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<v Speaker 10>It's an honor and we are very humble. When you visited, Uh,

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<v Speaker 10>welcome you all and hope you have a great visitor.

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<v Speaker 9>Thank you okay, thanks. Yeah, but my name is Samantha.

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<v Speaker 22>I work at the Ministry of Finances as accountant and

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<v Speaker 22>I'm cure of treasure.

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<v Speaker 10>Thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 30>Yeah, hey everyone, and welcome to our shore. My name

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<v Speaker 30>is Raised, but everyone call me Kuma, So.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm very pleased to meet all of you.

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<v Speaker 10>When they say we have uh all these media, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>big news media, I was just coming from the state.

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<v Speaker 10>I was kind of nervous.

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<v Speaker 30>But anyways, uh, I've been up to member since two

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<v Speaker 30>thousand fourteen and I was told me, is why all

1:36:01.160 --> 1:36:03.960
<v Speaker 30>the work that these names have been doing for the

1:36:04.080 --> 1:36:08.080
<v Speaker 30>Marshall Islands. I'm they're probably be part of Quete Club.

1:36:09.080 --> 1:36:13.200
<v Speaker 30>I work at ROMA at All local government and I'm

1:36:13.280 --> 1:36:15.559
<v Speaker 30>not sure you know, but rongav is one of those

1:36:16.320 --> 1:36:21.960
<v Speaker 30>it's all that was affected by the nuclear testing, so again, welcome.

1:36:22.520 --> 1:36:25.080
<v Speaker 2>Kure worked with Sawyer, the people who make the Ubiquitous

1:36:25.160 --> 1:36:27.200
<v Speaker 2>water filter, which is a favorite for through hikers and

1:36:27.280 --> 1:36:30.840
<v Speaker 2>other outdoors people, to provide a water filtration system that

1:36:30.920 --> 1:36:33.719
<v Speaker 2>allows Marshal's people to filter the rain water they collect

1:36:34.240 --> 1:36:38.240
<v Speaker 2>and remove harmful bacteria that can cause diarrhea and vomiting. Well,

1:36:38.280 --> 1:36:40.920
<v Speaker 2>these might seem undesirable listeners in the US, they can

1:36:40.960 --> 1:36:44.599
<v Speaker 2>be fatal in other settings. Twenty nineteen, around one point

1:36:44.680 --> 1:36:48.320
<v Speaker 2>five million people died from diarrheal diseases. That's more than

1:36:48.400 --> 1:36:52.400
<v Speaker 2>all violent deaths combined. Around half a million of those

1:36:52.520 --> 1:36:56.879
<v Speaker 2>deaths were children. One thing that's remarkable about the project

1:36:57.160 --> 1:36:59.880
<v Speaker 2>is the way it was realized. Curee began just to

1:37:00.120 --> 1:37:02.519
<v Speaker 2>should in the most remote and hard to reach a tolls,

1:37:02.960 --> 1:37:05.519
<v Speaker 2>taking tiny boats across choppy seas for days at a

1:37:05.560 --> 1:37:07.880
<v Speaker 2>time to get to remote islands, and then working with

1:37:07.960 --> 1:37:10.799
<v Speaker 2>traditional women leaders to ensure that everyone on the islands

1:37:10.920 --> 1:37:14.559
<v Speaker 2>knew how to use the filters. Then they began working

1:37:14.640 --> 1:37:19.120
<v Speaker 2>towards Marjora, the capitol. I've seen lots of ENDO projects

1:37:19.160 --> 1:37:22.120
<v Speaker 2>in dozens of countries I've worked with someone, but I've

1:37:22.280 --> 1:37:26.080
<v Speaker 2>rarely seen a model that prioritizes need this well. In

1:37:26.240 --> 1:37:30.680
<v Speaker 2>far too many cases, proximity to power ensures access to resources.

1:37:31.400 --> 1:37:33.720
<v Speaker 2>This is a global problem. Just look at how the

1:37:33.840 --> 1:37:38.240
<v Speaker 2>US distributed masks and COVID resources to reservations last or

1:37:38.560 --> 1:37:40.360
<v Speaker 2>if I step outside, they can see how the lowest

1:37:40.360 --> 1:37:42.519
<v Speaker 2>income parts of San Diego, the city I live in,

1:37:42.760 --> 1:37:45.400
<v Speaker 2>have the worst roads and get the least infrastructure spending.

1:37:46.240 --> 1:37:49.000
<v Speaker 2>The fact that Keio do things differently is a testament

1:37:49.080 --> 1:37:52.639
<v Speaker 2>to the strength of their commitment to their community. In fact,

1:37:53.280 --> 1:37:56.120
<v Speaker 2>the project finished distribution during my trip to Marshall Islands,

1:37:56.920 --> 1:37:59.760
<v Speaker 2>completing the last island on Major Atoll in early July,

1:38:00.560 --> 1:38:02.799
<v Speaker 2>but a few days later than that, when KEO invited

1:38:02.840 --> 1:38:05.680
<v Speaker 2>myself and some other journalists to a goodbye breakfast, they

1:38:05.760 --> 1:38:08.200
<v Speaker 2>presented a filter to the former president of the Republic

1:38:08.240 --> 1:38:11.920
<v Speaker 2>of Marshall Islands, Hilde Hind Despite being the last person

1:38:11.960 --> 1:38:14.639
<v Speaker 2>to get one. She was very grateful and it served

1:38:14.640 --> 1:38:16.679
<v Speaker 2>as the great illustration of the priorities of the group.

1:38:17.200 --> 1:38:20.080
<v Speaker 2>They wanted to go to the hardest places first because

1:38:20.080 --> 1:38:23.799
<v Speaker 2>they knew people there needed help the most. His president

1:38:23.880 --> 1:38:26.680
<v Speaker 2>Hilde Heine, after receiving her filter, I.

1:38:26.760 --> 1:38:30.840
<v Speaker 18>Was telling morning that we don't drink from our tab

1:38:30.960 --> 1:38:34.200
<v Speaker 18>water ours. We have our own system, but we don't

1:38:34.280 --> 1:38:38.000
<v Speaker 18>know if it's clean, so we buy our drinking water

1:38:38.080 --> 1:38:41.200
<v Speaker 18>all the time. So with this one I probably will

1:38:41.280 --> 1:38:44.160
<v Speaker 18>stop bang for.

1:38:44.320 --> 1:38:49.000
<v Speaker 2>To be pure water. I joined Kio and several other

1:38:49.080 --> 1:38:52.439
<v Speaker 2>journalists for the final leg of their project, which involves

1:38:52.479 --> 1:38:55.519
<v Speaker 2>installing the water filters. This doesn't really take long they're

1:38:55.560 --> 1:38:58.679
<v Speaker 2>basically a soil filter attached to a five gallon bucket

1:38:58.720 --> 1:39:02.000
<v Speaker 2>with a length of flexible hoe, and then explaining their

1:39:02.120 --> 1:39:06.040
<v Speaker 2>value and upkeep to the community. As we heard yesterday,

1:39:06.160 --> 1:39:08.160
<v Speaker 2>ground water is harder and harder to come by in

1:39:08.200 --> 1:39:10.840
<v Speaker 2>the Marshall Islands thanks to climate change, and so people

1:39:10.920 --> 1:39:15.040
<v Speaker 2>rely almost exclusively on rainwater. They collect rainwater in giant

1:39:15.080 --> 1:39:18.599
<v Speaker 2>plastic tanks. They've only recently replaced a hodgepodge of different

1:39:18.600 --> 1:39:22.240
<v Speaker 2>collection vessels. Incidentally, a visiting scientist from the CDC told

1:39:22.280 --> 1:39:24.800
<v Speaker 2>me that the installation of these tanks has increased a

1:39:24.880 --> 1:39:27.400
<v Speaker 2>safe disposal of waste because people no longer need to

1:39:27.400 --> 1:39:31.679
<v Speaker 2>take their bins to collect rainwater when it rains. Once

1:39:31.800 --> 1:39:34.000
<v Speaker 2>water is in the tanks, the residents can draw it

1:39:34.040 --> 1:39:36.439
<v Speaker 2>out into their five gallon bucket and then filter it

1:39:36.520 --> 1:39:40.599
<v Speaker 2>for safe drinking. The soil filter system may seem very simple,

1:39:40.880 --> 1:39:43.120
<v Speaker 2>and it is, but that's what makes it a perfect

1:39:43.160 --> 1:39:47.080
<v Speaker 2>solution here. A complicated electric filter, or one that relied

1:39:47.120 --> 1:39:49.320
<v Speaker 2>on pipe water pressure or had a ton of moving

1:39:49.360 --> 1:39:52.360
<v Speaker 2>parts would require constant maintenance, which is hard given a

1:39:52.400 --> 1:39:55.720
<v Speaker 2>long journey to the outer Islands. In my career in

1:39:55.840 --> 1:39:59.320
<v Speaker 2>journalism and in nonprofit. I've seen countless well intentioned aid

1:39:59.360 --> 1:40:03.280
<v Speaker 2>projects completely failed to consider the need for sustainability and

1:40:03.400 --> 1:40:07.519
<v Speaker 2>become useless odities. In a few years. Cargo bikes made

1:40:07.560 --> 1:40:10.200
<v Speaker 2>a huge different coffee farmers in Rwanda until they needed

1:40:10.240 --> 1:40:12.360
<v Speaker 2>new brake pads and there wasn't an importer for them.

1:40:13.160 --> 1:40:16.080
<v Speaker 2>The same goes for countless glucometers I've seen distributed to

1:40:16.120 --> 1:40:18.479
<v Speaker 2>people who can't access the batteries they use or the

1:40:18.560 --> 1:40:22.240
<v Speaker 2>test strips they rely on. This won't happen in the

1:40:22.320 --> 1:40:25.160
<v Speaker 2>Marshall Islands in part because the project was led by

1:40:25.200 --> 1:40:27.880
<v Speaker 2>the community itself and not by outside nonprofits looking to

1:40:27.960 --> 1:40:32.320
<v Speaker 2>maximize donation dollars or media opportunities, and in part because

1:40:32.400 --> 1:40:34.759
<v Speaker 2>the only maintenance or sor filter needs is a backflush

1:40:34.800 --> 1:40:38.120
<v Speaker 2>of the filtered water that it makes. Yesterday we had

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<v Speaker 2>a little from the Marshal Lee's Environmental Protection Agency about

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<v Speaker 2>how they grapple with climate change. Today, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>explain how they're working alongside Kio to ensure that even

1:40:47.720 --> 1:40:50.760
<v Speaker 2>as sea levels rise, Marshali's people will have access to

1:40:50.840 --> 1:40:55.320
<v Speaker 2>safe water. The Marshal lyse Epa works to ensure that

1:40:55.439 --> 1:40:58.559
<v Speaker 2>the water in people's tanks isn't contaminated, and the filters

1:40:58.600 --> 1:41:01.120
<v Speaker 2>that Kio provided were to make sure that even if

1:41:01.120 --> 1:41:04.800
<v Speaker 2>it is, people won't get sick. They often travel to

1:41:04.840 --> 1:41:07.519
<v Speaker 2>the outer isons together to reduce the cost sharing a

1:41:07.560 --> 1:41:10.640
<v Speaker 2>small boat. It's a rare example of a nonprofit in

1:41:10.680 --> 1:41:13.400
<v Speaker 2>the government working together without competing or doing the same

1:41:13.439 --> 1:41:17.720
<v Speaker 2>thing twice. At first, Marianna explained, people weren't sure that

1:41:17.800 --> 1:41:19.920
<v Speaker 2>such a tiny filter could make such a big difference,

1:41:20.400 --> 1:41:22.719
<v Speaker 2>so Kio worked with the EPA to use a visual

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<v Speaker 2>test for microbial activity to show people how effective it was.

1:41:26.600 --> 1:41:29.240
<v Speaker 2>He She is explaining how the EPA helped Kio build

1:41:29.280 --> 1:41:31.200
<v Speaker 2>trust in the efficacy of the soil filters.

1:41:32.160 --> 1:41:40.800
<v Speaker 27>When Sires and Kio approached us with the filters, before.

1:41:40.520 --> 1:41:43.040
<v Speaker 10>That, a lot of people were already asking us, so,

1:41:43.439 --> 1:41:47.880
<v Speaker 10>can we can we trust this? You know, can you

1:41:48.400 --> 1:41:51.400
<v Speaker 10>do a test in your lab to tell us and

1:41:51.640 --> 1:41:55.040
<v Speaker 10>confirm that this is, you know, as good as they

1:41:55.400 --> 1:41:56.680
<v Speaker 10>claim it to be.

1:41:57.280 --> 1:41:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Doing the test allowed the EPA to help Ko get

1:42:00.040 --> 1:42:03.320
<v Speaker 2>greater uptake for their filters and allowed Kio to help

1:42:03.360 --> 1:42:05.400
<v Speaker 2>the EPA achieve one of its mandated goals.

1:42:05.720 --> 1:42:07.080
<v Speaker 9>And so when we.

1:42:07.280 --> 1:42:12.960
<v Speaker 27>Produce these very visual like Quanta quanta or quanti trays.

1:42:13.560 --> 1:42:13.960
<v Speaker 21>The the.

1:42:15.520 --> 1:42:16.840
<v Speaker 10>Experts will get into it.

1:42:17.000 --> 1:42:22.400
<v Speaker 27>But when we produce them and show a visual contrast

1:42:22.560 --> 1:42:26.479
<v Speaker 27>between the water before the filter and then the water

1:42:26.720 --> 1:42:33.520
<v Speaker 27>before the after the filter filtration, it was you know, amazing,

1:42:34.040 --> 1:42:39.479
<v Speaker 27>like it's it's so clean, and you know, we make

1:42:39.600 --> 1:42:43.600
<v Speaker 27>decisions based on science, and that science right there, and

1:42:43.760 --> 1:42:49.600
<v Speaker 27>so we use that visual photograph outside of that that

1:42:49.920 --> 1:42:51.880
<v Speaker 27>that meeting to show people.

1:42:53.680 --> 1:42:56.320
<v Speaker 10>You know, we're not going to get into the microbils

1:42:56.479 --> 1:43:01.080
<v Speaker 10>of whatever. This is the difference the water before the

1:43:01.720 --> 1:43:03.559
<v Speaker 10>filter and then after.

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<v Speaker 29>And so.

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<v Speaker 10>We're just really happy that Kiyo was able to include us.

1:43:11.920 --> 1:43:14.840
<v Speaker 27>This is one of our mandates, but we're never resourced

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<v Speaker 27>that way to you know, do all of the things

1:43:18.880 --> 1:43:22.240
<v Speaker 27>that we want to do to address water quality issues.

1:43:22.680 --> 1:43:25.679
<v Speaker 2>Of course, it's impossible to deal with the water issue

1:43:25.680 --> 1:43:29.240
<v Speaker 2>in isolation. Everything in the Marshall Islands are really anywhere

1:43:29.320 --> 1:43:31.960
<v Speaker 2>else where you're paying attention has to take into account

1:43:32.000 --> 1:43:34.760
<v Speaker 2>the impact of climate change and how communities are going

1:43:34.800 --> 1:43:37.799
<v Speaker 2>to survive when faced with an increasingly hostile home planet.

1:43:38.680 --> 1:43:40.960
<v Speaker 2>Now yain't explained how access to clean water helps make

1:43:41.000 --> 1:43:43.320
<v Speaker 2>the community in the Marshall Islands even more resilient.

1:43:44.200 --> 1:43:45.960
<v Speaker 10>Well, if you're.

1:43:45.880 --> 1:43:48.599
<v Speaker 27>Trying to survive, the last thing you want to worry

1:43:48.640 --> 1:43:54.160
<v Speaker 27>about is an outbreak of diarrhea or apatitis or.

1:43:55.640 --> 1:43:58.000
<v Speaker 10>You know, water born diseases that are.

1:43:58.400 --> 1:44:06.200
<v Speaker 27>Preventable and so clean water, you know you're much much

1:44:06.320 --> 1:44:11.240
<v Speaker 27>more better as a community if you can thrive and.

1:44:12.800 --> 1:44:16.719
<v Speaker 10>On clean water. It's as simple as that water is life.

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<v Speaker 2>One night during my trip to the Marshall Islands, I

1:44:26.360 --> 1:44:28.640
<v Speaker 2>was able to join Kia for a dinner that celebrated

1:44:28.680 --> 1:44:31.960
<v Speaker 2>the completion of their water project, meaning that everyone in

1:44:32.000 --> 1:44:34.519
<v Speaker 2>the Marshall Islands had access to water that won't make

1:44:34.600 --> 1:44:37.200
<v Speaker 2>them sick. To get a better sense of what this

1:44:37.360 --> 1:44:39.559
<v Speaker 2>really means, I wanted to talk to some families who

1:44:39.600 --> 1:44:42.080
<v Speaker 2>had received those filters and to see what the clean

1:44:42.160 --> 1:44:45.519
<v Speaker 2>water access meant to them. We've all heard that water

1:44:45.680 --> 1:44:48.559
<v Speaker 2>is life, and that was a slogan news for Kio's project,

1:44:49.240 --> 1:44:51.760
<v Speaker 2>but it's difficult to appreciate that if you live in

1:44:51.800 --> 1:44:53.479
<v Speaker 2>a place where you can just turn on a tap

1:44:53.520 --> 1:44:55.680
<v Speaker 2>and have access to clean, safe water whenever you want.

1:44:56.520 --> 1:44:59.360
<v Speaker 2>When Kio made their posters for that dinner, they included

1:44:59.400 --> 1:45:01.760
<v Speaker 2>a photo of a girl on Arno Island who had

1:45:01.760 --> 1:45:04.400
<v Speaker 2>been one of the first to receive their filters, happily

1:45:04.479 --> 1:45:07.400
<v Speaker 2>drinking from a jar of clean water. That was back

1:45:07.439 --> 1:45:10.960
<v Speaker 2>in twenty eighteen. Since then, they thought they'd heard the

1:45:11.120 --> 1:45:13.880
<v Speaker 2>terrible news that she died, but just before the dinner

1:45:13.880 --> 1:45:16.200
<v Speaker 2>they found out she hadn't, and so they invited her

1:45:16.240 --> 1:45:19.040
<v Speaker 2>to join the celebration. I was able to sit down

1:45:19.080 --> 1:45:22.120
<v Speaker 2>with her, her mother, and other recipients of the filters

1:45:22.160 --> 1:45:25.200
<v Speaker 2>for a quick interview via translator on the tiny island

1:45:25.200 --> 1:45:25.880
<v Speaker 2>of Boken Boat.

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<v Speaker 21>So they never filtered the water before. They would drink

1:45:34.400 --> 1:45:37.360
<v Speaker 21>straight in the water wells or the water catchments.

1:45:38.000 --> 1:45:42.240
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes, she said, people would get sick. We also spoke

1:45:42.280 --> 1:45:44.640
<v Speaker 2>to Aneedi, a resident of Wrong Wrong, on the day

1:45:44.680 --> 1:45:48.760
<v Speaker 2>that she got her filter. Frontine helped to translate her responses.

1:45:48.360 --> 1:45:49.519
<v Speaker 30>Yeah, what are they in?

1:45:49.640 --> 1:45:49.800
<v Speaker 13>Nine?

1:45:50.360 --> 1:45:50.680
<v Speaker 2>Thank you?

1:45:56.920 --> 1:45:59.519
<v Speaker 10>What she had heard about that there was going to

1:45:59.560 --> 1:46:03.559
<v Speaker 10>be filter is coming through the island. When she first heard,

1:46:03.840 --> 1:46:06.439
<v Speaker 10>she thought the filters were going to go directly to

1:46:06.720 --> 1:46:11.360
<v Speaker 10>the water tanks. And now that it's more accessible, it's

1:46:11.479 --> 1:46:16.760
<v Speaker 10>like she saw this bucket. She's happy. It's better, it's better, okay, yeah, yeah.

1:46:17.439 --> 1:46:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Recently there have been an outbreak of diary around the atoll,

1:46:20.160 --> 1:46:21.439
<v Speaker 2>so this was a welcome relief.

1:46:22.560 --> 1:46:28.000
<v Speaker 10>So she had heard that there was optic of cases

1:46:28.080 --> 1:46:31.320
<v Speaker 10>in major the capital and when she had first learned

1:46:31.360 --> 1:46:35.439
<v Speaker 10>about her she was scared and worried.

1:46:36.520 --> 1:46:39.919
<v Speaker 9>But to hear that there's.

1:46:41.760 --> 1:46:44.880
<v Speaker 10>Folks coming here to the island to check on the water,

1:46:45.520 --> 1:46:47.160
<v Speaker 10>it made them feel a little bit more.

1:46:47.840 --> 1:46:48.000
<v Speaker 19>You know.

1:46:48.120 --> 1:46:51.639
<v Speaker 2>Add EA's the family from Ana who traveled a long

1:46:51.680 --> 1:46:53.960
<v Speaker 2>way on a small boat to meet us. We're looking

1:46:54.000 --> 1:46:56.840
<v Speaker 2>forward to getting back to their home. Life on the

1:46:56.880 --> 1:46:59.599
<v Speaker 2>outer Atolls isn't easy, but it's not one they want

1:46:59.640 --> 1:47:02.599
<v Speaker 2>to walk away from. With the threat of climate change

1:47:02.600 --> 1:47:05.240
<v Speaker 2>already putting their home in peril, having access to clean

1:47:05.320 --> 1:47:08.240
<v Speaker 2>water must be a welcome relief. I asked to say,

1:47:08.280 --> 1:47:10.880
<v Speaker 2>preferred life here on the capitol at all or back home?

1:47:11.600 --> 1:47:14.599
<v Speaker 21>Yeah, she says life in the outer islands is better.

1:47:14.880 --> 1:47:17.600
<v Speaker 21>There's more space, more freedom to move around.

1:47:17.520 --> 1:47:18.160
<v Speaker 10>For the kids.

1:47:18.520 --> 1:47:20.240
<v Speaker 2>There are things she'd like to change the course, but

1:47:20.560 --> 1:47:23.320
<v Speaker 2>mostly her concern was preserving their little piece of paradise

1:47:23.439 --> 1:47:24.520
<v Speaker 2>for future generations.

1:47:25.800 --> 1:47:31.360
<v Speaker 21>She'd like her kids to be able to enjoy access

1:47:31.400 --> 1:47:39.560
<v Speaker 21>to clean water, whether it be through more water catchments

1:47:40.160 --> 1:47:44.720
<v Speaker 21>that are being available to the family, and also the

1:47:44.800 --> 1:47:51.559
<v Speaker 21>electric city, as you mentioned, perhaps with the generator stuff

1:47:51.640 --> 1:47:54.920
<v Speaker 21>like that to make life more easier in the outer lands.

1:47:55.840 --> 1:48:00.479
<v Speaker 21>She'd like to, you know, like in the future, be

1:48:00.600 --> 1:48:06.519
<v Speaker 21>able to see the fishing grounds preserved as well as

1:48:07.040 --> 1:48:10.559
<v Speaker 21>the land for their farming needs.

1:48:11.520 --> 1:48:14.400
<v Speaker 2>The way KIR works with local communities, because they're from

1:48:14.520 --> 1:48:17.519
<v Speaker 2>local communities, enables them to be much more effective than

1:48:17.560 --> 1:48:20.720
<v Speaker 2>a nonprofit which comes from outside the community. On wrong

1:48:20.800 --> 1:48:24.240
<v Speaker 2>wrong they joke to laugh at local women Whenik's husband

1:48:24.320 --> 1:48:26.920
<v Speaker 2>comes from the island, so they were already welcome, and

1:48:27.280 --> 1:48:29.680
<v Speaker 2>then after some time bantering, they explained the way to

1:48:29.760 --> 1:48:33.479
<v Speaker 2>water filters work. In Marshal Leeds families, they're still a

1:48:33.520 --> 1:48:35.880
<v Speaker 2>fairly gender division of labor in many cases, and it

1:48:36.080 --> 1:48:37.760
<v Speaker 2>seemed to be that the women on the island were

1:48:37.800 --> 1:48:39.560
<v Speaker 2>the ones who stayed to learn about the filters, so

1:48:40.280 --> 1:48:42.400
<v Speaker 2>it was appropriate that it was women who were teaching them.

1:48:45.439 --> 1:48:49.040
<v Speaker 2>Preservation doesn't mean there can't be change. The Marshall Islands

1:48:49.080 --> 1:48:51.200
<v Speaker 2>have seen a huge change in the last few years,

1:48:51.560 --> 1:48:53.559
<v Speaker 2>and much of that is down to the dedicated work

1:48:53.560 --> 1:48:55.679
<v Speaker 2>of a large number of women who have formed community

1:48:55.720 --> 1:48:58.960
<v Speaker 2>groups to empower each other and address social, ecological and

1:48:59.000 --> 1:49:03.000
<v Speaker 2>public health issues that are facing their communities. The umbrella

1:49:03.120 --> 1:49:05.760
<v Speaker 2>organization that works with these women's groups it's called with Me.

1:49:06.200 --> 1:49:08.960
<v Speaker 2>I let Maria from Whitey explain what that means and

1:49:09.040 --> 1:49:10.639
<v Speaker 2>why they started the group in the first place.

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<v Speaker 16>First of all, welcome. As you know, with ME stands

1:49:14.479 --> 1:49:18.200
<v Speaker 16>for women in edited together, marshal allance. It also means

1:49:18.200 --> 1:49:23.320
<v Speaker 16>in marshalise your flower, and that's how we wanted the

1:49:23.400 --> 1:49:27.840
<v Speaker 16>acronym to be to mean both English and marshalist. And

1:49:27.960 --> 1:49:30.679
<v Speaker 16>as this is said, it was established in nineteen eighty

1:49:30.760 --> 1:49:36.440
<v Speaker 16>seven to fill a gap with respect to the advancement

1:49:36.479 --> 1:49:40.439
<v Speaker 16>of women. In nineteen seventy five there was the Decade

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<v Speaker 16>for Women en Decade for Women, and there were two

1:49:43.600 --> 1:49:48.160
<v Speaker 16>countriences that took place and there were a lot of

1:49:48.640 --> 1:49:53.840
<v Speaker 16>issues that came about in those two meetings. They were

1:49:54.320 --> 1:50:03.240
<v Speaker 16>dealing with domestic violence, alcohol abuse, suicide, the youth, other problems,

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<v Speaker 16>child abuse and neglect. So from those women started to meet,

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<v Speaker 16>at least some women started to talk about this was

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<v Speaker 16>there were no representatives of women in the decision making bodies,

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<v Speaker 16>whether at the local government levels or at the national level.

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<v Speaker 10>So that's.

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<v Speaker 16>And we got the support of our traditional women leaders.

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<v Speaker 2>Woman Works alongside traditional leaders are not around them. The

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<v Speaker 2>same was true of all the programs that have been

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<v Speaker 2>successful on the islands. On our last day, we visited WHAM,

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<v Speaker 2>the program that builds the canoes we heard about. Although

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<v Speaker 2>the programs founded to preserve the cultural heritage of the

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<v Speaker 2>islands and their unique seafaring technologies, some of which are

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<v Speaker 2>only just being replicated in modern craft in Europe and

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<v Speaker 2>the USA, it also responded to a need that the

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<v Speaker 2>community had. In this case, that need was education.

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<v Speaker 31>So we are training program for at risk young men

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<v Speaker 31>and women of the martial arts who It started out

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<v Speaker 31>as a project back in the eighties. One of our

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<v Speaker 31>twenty found uh, co founder of this program.

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<v Speaker 21>UH.

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<v Speaker 31>The museum contracted him to go through various islands within

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<v Speaker 31>the Republic, And you're talking about back in the eighties

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<v Speaker 31>and we were losing our designs fasts. People were coming

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<v Speaker 31>to Magro or going to the States, which is going

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<v Speaker 31>off islands to the many reasons, and because of that,

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<v Speaker 31>they wanted to capture that uniqueness of these design But

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<v Speaker 31>when he was going through from one actual to another,

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<v Speaker 31>he noticed that there were a lot of young kids

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<v Speaker 31>not going to school.

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<v Speaker 13>So I'm not sure if you're aware of it.

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<v Speaker 31>But throughout the republic there's only about four or five

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<v Speaker 31>high schools and most of them are boarding school So,

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<v Speaker 31>for example, I grew up in Jeluity, and in that

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<v Speaker 31>at all there's a high school, boarding high school and

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<v Speaker 31>then it gators to about six or seven other app pilings.

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<v Speaker 31>So parents have no choice but to send their kids.

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<v Speaker 31>If they want to go beyond ad grade, you have

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<v Speaker 31>to leave home and go to the boarding schools.

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<v Speaker 2>In addition to offering a skill set and an education,

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<v Speaker 2>the program has counselors in mental health and addiction. They

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<v Speaker 2>teach young men and women maths, literacy and how to

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<v Speaker 2>build the canoes, but they also empower them in creating

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<v Speaker 2>the sustainable alternative transport method that will be vital in

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<v Speaker 2>building a sustainable future for their home. Likewise would meet

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<v Speaker 2>the approach. It's based on listening to people.

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<v Speaker 32>Women chiefs you know, will let them know what we'll

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<v Speaker 32>be doing and what what would they want us to do,

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<v Speaker 32>and we ask them to talk with their you know,

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<v Speaker 32>like because these women chiefs are owning some of the

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<v Speaker 32>neighboring islands and they know their people and do need

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<v Speaker 32>assessments so they can really understand what their needs are,

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<v Speaker 32>because all they need greenhalents.

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<v Speaker 9>Are different means.

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<v Speaker 2>They make an effort to tie their efforts to traditional

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<v Speaker 2>Marshalist principles and in doing so they keep their culture alive.

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<v Speaker 16>So being together and getting this the other thing that

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<v Speaker 16>would be done, which is connect our our being to

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<v Speaker 16>our culture. Being a materlineal society, we have different sayings

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<v Speaker 16>or traditional traditional roles of women. Yeah, and then we

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<v Speaker 16>have the domestic balance when it's called whether in mellor

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<v Speaker 16>weather meaning it's a land parcel, MA mean to be alive,

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<v Speaker 16>to live and not to be killed.

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<v Speaker 10>As opposed to being abused.

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<v Speaker 16>So whether in is somewhere you go to and you're

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<v Speaker 16>able to live freely or in being I mean you're

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<v Speaker 16>well protected. So in all our conferences we we do

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<v Speaker 16>use these traditional so it's something that it's not new,

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<v Speaker 16>it's traditional, so they cannot say, you know, you cannot

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<v Speaker 16>do that because it's a tradition, and we keep the

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<v Speaker 16>culture alive through that way as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Almost everyone you've heard from in this series, aside from

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<v Speaker 2>the Men, is a member of Kio or Whitney or both.

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<v Speaker 2>Keo is one of the chapters of Whitney and many

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<v Speaker 2>of the Keo leaders as the daughters of Whitman's leadership.

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<v Speaker 2>Whitney have implemented parent as teacher, early childhood education programs,

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<v Speaker 2>domestic violence prevention programs, and many other social, economic and

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<v Speaker 2>political programs across the islands. The results are easy to see.

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<v Speaker 2>All over the Marshall Islands, government officers and NGOs are

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<v Speaker 2>run by women. Now, the Marshall Islands had the first

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<v Speaker 2>woman president in the whole Pacific, and she was elected

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<v Speaker 2>in January twenty sixteen, a year when rampant misogyny was

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<v Speaker 2>more evident than ever in the United States presidential election.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, many marshal Lea's women go to the United

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<v Speaker 2>States and what these members are no exception.

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<v Speaker 16>One of the major challenges has been to make sure

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<v Speaker 16>that that we keep the organization intact because it's especially

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<v Speaker 16>at present time because there's a lot about migration that

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<v Speaker 16>we have to constantly work, especially with women in the

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<v Speaker 16>islands where they're they come and then they'll stay long

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<v Speaker 16>in the urban areas, they just migrate out. So now

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<v Speaker 16>there are so many of them that they're trying to

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<v Speaker 16>form women's groups in the in the United States as well,

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<v Speaker 16>so they come and visit us and we communicate with

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<v Speaker 16>them occasionally share in sharing information or other issues because

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<v Speaker 16>what issues they experience here, they also experience in the

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<v Speaker 16>United States, and so they need to be aware of

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<v Speaker 16>how we're trying to deal with those.

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<v Speaker 2>But many women also go to the US for their

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<v Speaker 2>education and then return to be part of their community

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<v Speaker 2>and help lift their community up. Now, thanks to whipm's

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<v Speaker 2>hard work and the government's efforts, women don't have to

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<v Speaker 2>leave to get these skills. The Energy Department has trained

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<v Speaker 2>women on outer islands, for example, to fix their own

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<v Speaker 2>power grades.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, so we're kind of all over the place.

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<v Speaker 2>At one time we went and.

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<v Speaker 12>Actually uh train a community of all women, like we

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<v Speaker 12>had to include men to allow women to be part

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<v Speaker 12>of the training. And we have nine women that graduated

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<v Speaker 12>certified trainers and we awarded them with tools and everything

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<v Speaker 12>so when there's a power outages and their solar home

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<v Speaker 12>systems and they can address it. And Grace who's in

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<v Speaker 12>the middle, that that's the island where she's from where

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<v Speaker 12>we train the woman to become trainers. And it's our

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<v Speaker 12>first ever. So when we found that it was successful,

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<v Speaker 12>we try to extend it out to the other islands.

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<v Speaker 12>So I think that's one of the reasons why it's

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<v Speaker 12>difficult for countries such as US where we've been colonized

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<v Speaker 12>and trying to find a balance between a modern day

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<v Speaker 12>government form of democracy where you're taught that individualism is

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<v Speaker 12>important and your rights are important, and then you have

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<v Speaker 12>your traditional structure when where you when you're grow up,

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<v Speaker 12>you're taught that it's a collective society. You your piety

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<v Speaker 12>is important, respecting it's your thoughts are not worth it,

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<v Speaker 12>your elders and your you know, your chiefs in so

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<v Speaker 12>I think that's where we have to find the balance.

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<v Speaker 2>This comment that Angeline made in our chat after her

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<v Speaker 2>excellent presentation on energy sovereignty really got me thinking about

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<v Speaker 2>the post colony future of the Marshall Islands. Today, they're

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<v Speaker 2>empowered as an independent nation, but they still have to

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<v Speaker 2>exist within a framework where corporations and more powerful governments

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to pay for the consequences of their actions.

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<v Speaker 2>In twenty twenty two, the US unsealed indictment of a

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<v Speaker 2>Chinese couple who bribe five Marshalise members of parliament and

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<v Speaker 2>attempted to bribe a six in order to help them

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<v Speaker 2>carve out a kind of mini state, a so called

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<v Speaker 2>special economic zone as a tax haven or Wrongolappatol. This

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<v Speaker 2>is one of the places heavily impacted by the nuclear

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<v Speaker 2>testing we spoke about earlier. Hildehein, among others, opposed this.

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<v Speaker 2>She said economic development is and should be encouraged, but

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<v Speaker 2>not at the expense of money laundering and other similarly

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<v Speaker 2>ill activities that are usually a part of money laundering.

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<v Speaker 2>As was obvious in the wrongol Appatol Special Administrative Region legislation,

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<v Speaker 2>the people of wrong alapp deserved better standards of living

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<v Speaker 2>and economic development. Well, there's no evidence of CCP involvement

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<v Speaker 2>in the scheme. It came as part of a larger

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<v Speaker 2>panic about Beijing's influence in the region. Twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 2>the Solomon Islands signed a pact with China to help

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<v Speaker 2>improve their internal security, and China has already provided the

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<v Speaker 2>Solomons with police training and donated replica guns and riot

1:59:12.480 --> 1:59:16.760
<v Speaker 2>control equipment such as water canon vehicles. The Solomon Islands

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<v Speaker 2>are still covered in bombs from the US and Japan's

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<v Speaker 2>fighting in the Pacific, but instead of helping dispose of these,

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<v Speaker 2>this form of investment is sending more weapons to the government,

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<v Speaker 2>not help to the people there. According to a recent

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<v Speaker 2>published study in the journal Science, the world's corporations produce

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<v Speaker 2>so much climate change causing pollution that it would eat

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<v Speaker 2>up forty four percent of their profits if they had

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<v Speaker 2>to pay damages for the impact of their activity. Your

1:59:40.880 --> 1:59:43.640
<v Speaker 2>reusable straw might help, and it's good that you're using it.

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<v Speaker 2>But until the world and giant corporations especially listen to

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<v Speaker 2>the voices of people impacted by our choices, things won't change.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to end by talking about the future of

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<v Speaker 2>the Marshall Islands and how Marshallese people are determining that

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<v Speaker 2>in the last century they've been let down by the

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<v Speaker 2>League of Nations who reallocated the islands to the Japanese

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<v Speaker 2>under Southeast Mandate, then let down by the US and

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<v Speaker 2>the UN after the war, and they're still being let

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<v Speaker 2>down by international institutions today when their demands for climate

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<v Speaker 2>fairless are ignored. But this doesn't mean they can't benefit

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<v Speaker 2>from international solidarity. It was American made water filters and

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<v Speaker 2>a significant donation from a company better known for hiking

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<v Speaker 2>that helped every single person in the Marshall Island to

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<v Speaker 2>get clean water. It was Greenpeace who relocated people when

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<v Speaker 2>the US government wouldn't, and it was Marshally's women who

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<v Speaker 2>took week long norse or inducing boat rides across dangerous

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<v Speaker 2>seas to distribute those water filters that save lives in

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<v Speaker 2>places where there's less access to care. With access to

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<v Speaker 2>the right resources and international solidarity and goodwill, the possibilities

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<v Speaker 2>for the Marshall Islands seem endless. They've endured World War,

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<v Speaker 2>survived the dropping of the atom bond, and they're adapting

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<v Speaker 2>to climate change by centering community and their obligations to

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<v Speaker 2>each other rather than trying to each take what they

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<v Speaker 2>can and get out. With access to clean water and

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<v Speaker 2>homes free of smoke, their children will be healthier, and

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<v Speaker 2>every child I met on the island seem to have

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<v Speaker 2>bright hopes for the future. I met one kid who

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to be a basketball player and another who aspired

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<v Speaker 2>to apparently be as tall as I am. People in

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<v Speaker 2>the Islands don't focus on their past, but on their future,

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<v Speaker 2>and with a little solidarity and decency from the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of the world, they have a very bright one. I

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<v Speaker 2>wonder finish this series with the explanation we got from

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<v Speaker 2>Whitney of the Marshally's flag. It's a great flag, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, and you should look it up if you

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<v Speaker 2>haven't seen it. It's one of the most common flags

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<v Speaker 2>of convenience for merchant vessels all over the world. I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen it in several continents, but never really knew what

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<v Speaker 2>it meant. At least for now, it seems to mean

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<v Speaker 2>that these tirely islands, which have been through so much,

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<v Speaker 2>still have great hopes for the future.

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<v Speaker 16>The Marshalis flair there's two the orange other white light,

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<v Speaker 16>and they represent that the relic chain and the rather chain,

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<v Speaker 16>the sunrise chain of island and the sunset chain of

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<v Speaker 16>violent which form the martial alum. So those two lines.

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<v Speaker 16>But those lines, there's one orange and one whit. Orange

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<v Speaker 16>is for courage to start, it's called Kio, and the

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<v Speaker 16>white is for peace. But these lines are not parallel.

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<v Speaker 16>I mean they become larger as they move up, and

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<v Speaker 16>they don't start from the corner. They start from a

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<v Speaker 16>little bit over the corner of the flag, meaning that

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<v Speaker 16>we have a past. We didn't start from the beginning

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<v Speaker 16>when we started this milk government in nineteen seventy nine.

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<v Speaker 16>And then it moves out. It doesn't go all the

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<v Speaker 16>way to the corner at the top. Because we're always growing.

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<v Speaker 16>There's so you know, we're always growing.

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<v Speaker 13>We need to grow.

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<v Speaker 16>It's very important.

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