1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: If I bet I'm gonna eat something. To ask Darien, 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take keep black tape? 3 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 2: Why we do that? 4 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 3: Cume? 5 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: I like I crease some time and I want to 6 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:09,239 Speaker 1: eat some cheese if I wanted some cheese. 7 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 2: But why do you have to keep the black tape? 8 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 3: Is what happened my stomach that it don't agree with 9 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 3: my stomach. 10 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: But know why, but it'll agree with me table, I 11 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: tell my stomach shut up all. 12 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 4: My life, grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle. 13 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 2: The Price, want a slice? 14 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 4: Gottor Brother Geys swap all my life, Poppy grinding all 15 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 4: my life, all my life, been grinning all my life, sacrifics, Hustle, 16 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 4: Pa Price, want a slice? 17 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 2: Doctor brother Geist swat. 18 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 4: All my life, pop Be grinding all my life. 19 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:44,919 Speaker 1: Hello, welcome to another edition of Club Shaha. I am 20 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: your hole Shannon Sharp. I'm also the propriet of Club Shaha. 21 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: And the lady that's stopping by for conversation on the 22 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: drink today is an Emmy nominated NAACP Award, Image Award winner, 23 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: New York Times bestselling author, globally known and beloved social 24 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: media personality, one of TikTok's top three creator, a vegan icon, 25 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: plant based activist, Peter twenty twenty Person of the Year, 26 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: A mogul entrepreneur, ce CEO and actress producer Ride a 27 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: Whole fashion designer. Why America's Mom and Auntie Tabitha Brown? 28 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 3: Is that? 29 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 5: Honey? 30 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 3: Listen? 31 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: I was like, who did all that? 32 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 3: Did I need anything else? 33 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 2: No? 34 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 3: How are you doing this thing? 35 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 2: I'm doing amazing? 36 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: You man, I am doing this is an unbelievable honor 37 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 1: for me. When doing my research on you, I'm like, Wow, 38 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: I'm just not hearing about you. But you've been at 39 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 1: this thing for a minute. 40 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I've been doing it for a long time. Yeah. 41 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 6: I think in the second phase of my life, which 42 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 6: has been the last six years. 43 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 2: When most people found me. Right, it's how most people 44 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 2: know me. 45 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 6: But I've been pursuing my dreams and entertainment for over 46 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 6: twenty plus years. 47 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: So when people refer to you as America's Mom or 48 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: everybody's favorite auntie, how does that make you feel? 49 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 3: Do you? Are you like, don't be calling me no Auntie? 50 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 5: I ain't. 51 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 2: Oh no, honey, I love it. 52 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 3: Yes, it's a term of endearment. 53 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 2: It's a term of endearment. 54 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 6: And also like for the term America's Mom. I had 55 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 6: that on my vision board for years and nobody knew 56 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 6: that really, but I wanted it because I wanted to 57 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 6: be like Claire Huckson I was growing up. 58 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 2: I looked at her like, oh, she's America's Mom. So 59 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 2: I wanted to be. 60 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 6: That, and I thought I'd have a show as an 61 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 6: actress and get that title. 62 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: But people call me that just for being me. 63 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: So when you were growing up, you're from a small 64 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:24,679 Speaker 1: town in North Carolina, reaching Eden. Yeah, my stylist is 65 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,399 Speaker 1: from Reidsville. Shut up, Hollywood. Hollywood is from Redsville. 66 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 2: Say it ain't. So come on with the three three cs. 67 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 2: We got to know each other again. 68 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 5: I talk people. 69 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: So when you're growing up, So what did what did 70 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: little Tabitha want to. 71 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 3: Be when she was growing up? 72 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 2: I wanted to be an actress. 73 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 6: You want to be an acts It started very early, 74 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 6: about five or six, watching The Cosby Show, and I 75 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 6: remember telling Mama, I said, Mama, I want to be 76 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 6: Rudy's friend. That ring the doorbell net you it would 77 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 6: come in and he never had nothing to say. 78 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: I didn't like that. 79 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 6: I had something I wanted to say and so she said, oh, 80 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 6: you want to be friends with Rudy. I said, but 81 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,119 Speaker 6: only in the TV. I didn't know what that meant. 82 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 6: And she said, oh, that means you want to be 83 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 6: an actress. 84 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 2: And so I spent all my childhood trying to figure 85 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 2: out how do I become this thing called an actress? 86 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 3: Right? 87 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 2: And so my whole life, that's always been what I wanted. 88 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: Even from a small town in North Carolina, you dreamt, 89 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: you dreamt big of somewhere, being far, far away from 90 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: North Carolina, never forgetting your roots, but you wanted to 91 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: be Hollywood. 92 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 2: I just wanted to be on TV, right. 93 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 6: I was always the one performing at the cookouts, Sunday dinners, 94 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 6: all that you know, I did. It would buy me 95 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 6: joke books, so I was studying them all week and 96 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 6: so I'd be like, Ooh, this weekend at the cookout 97 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 6: or at the Sunday dinner, I'm about to perform these jokes. 98 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 2: You know, It's just always been the thing I love. 99 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: Did you being from North Carolina? Obviously I have a 100 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: I'm from rule, South Georgia. I talked with a heavy 101 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: coloquial dialect. You're from north rural North Carolina, And so 102 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: you talked with that dialect. Also, did you take classes 103 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: to try to remove that or you just set alone 104 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: who you are? 105 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 6: I covered it for years, for years, okay, from corporate 106 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 6: America being told that you got a coverage and then 107 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 6: and entertainment being told you know, I sound country, I 108 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 6: sound ignorant. 109 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 2: I believe that. 110 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 6: And so I took acting classes and you know, learned 111 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 6: how to cover it. But I also learned how to 112 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 6: code switch. Very early as a little girl. My mama 113 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 6: talked to bill collectors and change her voice. And I'm like, oh, 114 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 6: that's how we got to talk to right, you know, 115 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 6: talk to family friends one way, talk to exactly. And 116 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 6: I did that, but I did it for so long, 117 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 6: you know, I kind of lost myself for a little bit. 118 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 2: But now these last. 119 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 6: Six years it has been my freedom walk and I 120 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 6: never covered anymore. 121 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: What did people say, because a lot of times they say, oh, 122 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: you're trying to act, you know what they would say, 123 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: Oh yes, So, so how did how did they receive 124 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: when you code switched? 125 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: Well, it was a normal thing, right. 126 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 6: A lot of people met me and didn't know no 127 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 6: different because that's how they met me. 128 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 2: Right. 129 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 6: So, now, when you know some of the people I 130 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 6: met years ago, they see me now like you didn't 131 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 6: used to talk that way. 132 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, because I won't free. 133 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 3: Right. 134 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 2: But now, if you had ever come to my house. 135 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 6: And you was with me and my husband and my 136 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 6: daddy and all my family, you would have always heard 137 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 6: this if I was comfortable enough with you. 138 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: But yeah, So why was it so important to get 139 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: back to Tabitha's original self and not let corporate America 140 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 1: change Because if you change your voice, you're changing who 141 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: you are. Because the part of who Tabitha Brown is 142 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: is that North Carolina, right. 143 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 3: You know. 144 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 6: It was just about freedom, Like I had lost freedom. 145 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 6: You know, when you start to conform to make other 146 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 6: people feel comfortable and you code switch and you're trying 147 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 6: to fit in, it's not freedom, right. And so when 148 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 6: I got sick, my prayer was to God was if 149 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 6: you heal me, you can have me. And what I 150 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 6: meant in that was I'm not going to try to 151 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 6: be this Tabitha I created no more. 152 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be who you created me to be. And 153 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 2: that mean you me, and that mean I had to 154 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 2: be like that. 155 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, I love that, And I've been letting him have 156 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 6: me for the last six years. 157 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 2: Every day you have. 158 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 3: A lot of sayings. 159 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: I mean, you're my you know, people hear me on 160 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: and I talked about what my grandmother and my grandfather 161 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: would say, like hello there. Likes like that because it's 162 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: my business. Have a good day, and even if you can't, 163 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: don't go messing up to somebody else's day. 164 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 2: That's my dad and my daddy. 165 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: Have you always because I've never I shouldn't say never, 166 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: but for the most part, when I watch you interview 167 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: and see you, you're always smiling, You're always so happy. 168 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: Have you always been this person? 169 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 6: I have always been a joyful person. That's what my 170 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 6: husband always says. He's like, that's just it's always been 171 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 6: the root of who I am. Right, I choose joy. 172 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 6: It's a it's an intentional choice every day. It doesn't 173 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 6: mean I haven't had bad days or bad time, but 174 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 6: I've also had a long bout of a dark season, 175 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 6: and I know what that looks like and it ain't 176 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 6: no fun. And so I'm intentional with my joy and 177 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 6: with my happiness, and I want to spread that right. 178 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: So it's very important for you to be positive even 179 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 1: though you're going through things, even to see people see 180 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: you and you. 181 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 3: Smiling like, hey go through right. 182 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: Yes, But it seems to me that you're very appreciative 183 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: because you know where you came from, you see where 184 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: you are and where you're heading. 185 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 3: That you're very, very, very appreciative. My grandmother used to. 186 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: Say, and when we didn't have anything, she said, boy, 187 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: don't be ungrateful to God. Yes, she said, you got 188 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: you woke up this morning, did you? So everything else 189 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: is a blessing after that? 190 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 2: That's right, that's the gift. Wow, that's the gift. 191 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: So now that your struggles, you talk about how you're struggling, 192 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: because everybody see the last six years of Tabitha, but 193 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: there was a period in which we didn't see this Tabitha. 194 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 3: What were those times? 195 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 2: Like those times were? 196 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 3: You know? 197 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 6: I was living right, So I was pursuing acting, but 198 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 6: I was a wife and a mother I have been 199 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 6: for you know, almost twenty two years now a mom 200 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 6: and being my husband for twenty five years. 201 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 2: So we were working and trying. 202 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 6: To build and struggling and from North Carolina to california're 203 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 6: back to North Carolina to California again, but always pursuing 204 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 6: the dream. My only dream back then was acting, right, 205 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 6: I couldn't see hass that I had to put myself in 206 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 6: a little box. 207 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: And so that's what it was. 208 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 6: But I always had a job. I used to work 209 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 6: in Macy's. I used to work at UPS at a 210 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 6: call center in North Carolina. 211 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 3: What type of employee was Tabitha? 212 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 2: Oh, listen, it's always a good employee. 213 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 6: Okay, I can go get a job right now, Okay, 214 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 6: right now, I can go get a job. 215 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 2: I ain't never been like. 216 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 3: I can see why you worked in the call center. 217 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 3: See how you do it today. 218 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 2: Exc So that's where I learned to coverage, right, you know? Yep? 219 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: I asked you about we see the last six years 220 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: of Tabitha, and we talked about obviously you talked about 221 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 1: the time that you were going through and you said something. 222 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: You said you were living, but is there's a difference 223 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: between living, surviving and thriving. 224 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 5: Yep. 225 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: So you wanted to live to survive in order for 226 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: you to thrive, That is correct. 227 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 2: I like it. Yes, I guess. 228 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 3: I guess we're the king and quean queen the slogans. 229 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, so. 230 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: When times got hard and you met I remember growing 231 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 1: up when people left in the you know, you used 232 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: to go to New York and they go to Chicago, 233 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: they go to Detroit and came back home. They're like, oh, 234 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: you don't bomb that. You got high on the hog 235 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: and you had to come home right, right, right? It 236 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: was like you were a failure. So how did it 237 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 1: make you feel? You left North Carolina, you go to 238 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: California and you have to go back. 239 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 2: You know, in the beginning, I was against it, right. 240 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 6: I had moved to California, thought I was moving to Hollywood, 241 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 6: but I was down in Orange County somewhere. My husband 242 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 6: was my boyfriend at the time, and he came out. 243 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 6: I had been out there for like three months. I 244 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 6: didn't tell nobody how bad it really was, right, and 245 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 6: I'm renting this room. This woman is pretty much taken 246 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 6: all my money and working two jobs. I'm nineteen years old, 247 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 6: And so when my husband came out there, he was like, man, 248 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 6: you ain't doing no acting. 249 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 2: You ain't. We're not even in LA right, like you 250 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 2: struggling to even pay bills. He was like, this donna 251 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 2: make sense, and it's expensive, right, he. 252 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 6: Said, we need to go back to North Carolina where 253 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 6: it's cheaper. Save up money for one year, then we 254 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 6: can move back to LA where you can really pursue 255 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 6: your dream. And so I was like, man, I ain't 256 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 6: really want to do that, but it sounded like a 257 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 6: good idea. So I was like, all right, So we 258 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 6: moved back, but we saved up a little bit of 259 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 6: money so that we can move in and have our 260 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 6: own apartment there. 261 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 2: And we moved to Greensboro, moved into the city. 262 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay, and. 263 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 2: So and we were there. 264 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 6: The one year planned though, turned into five years and 265 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 6: a forgotten dream because you know, we ended up having 266 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 6: a baby and we were both working, and we got 267 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 6: a house, and we had caused new responsibilities, and I 268 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 6: just thought I missed out on that opportunity. I convinced 269 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 6: myself I couldn't have it no more. 270 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 3: Right, So, yeah, you so you weren't embarrassed to go back? 271 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 3: You didn't. 272 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: And then when you had a child, and you see 273 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: you say okay, and your husband talked to you into 274 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: going back, and you say we got one year, it 275 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: turned into five years, and. 276 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 3: Did you like, damn at your lowest? How bad was it? 277 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 2: You know what? 278 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 6: Even then, I don't think it was my lowest, okay, right, 279 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 6: I think that I had just convinced myself that this 280 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 6: is what it is, okay, And so it wasn't until 281 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 6: I mean, I was working at a cart and I 282 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 6: had promoted to supervisor at a beerage. Okay, okay, I 283 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 6: was like twenty one and I had people under me 284 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 6: that was in eight fifties. 285 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 3: So I'm. 286 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 2: Yes, And I was probably making I think thirty thousand 287 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 2: dollars a year. I was bowling. 288 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 6: We was doing very well, good money back then, right, 289 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 6: and so I was like, this is our root team, 290 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 6: Like this is gonna be it. And one morning I 291 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 6: woke up it felt like an earthquake had hit Greensboro. 292 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 6: My bed shook and I heard a voice that sounded 293 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 6: like thunder, and the boy said. 294 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 2: This is not the life I planned for you. 295 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 6: And I got on my knees because I got very scared, 296 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 6: and I just started praying. I was like, God, if 297 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 6: this is you speaking to me, I need you to 298 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 6: show me a sign today because if not, I think 299 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 6: I'm going crazy. I'm gonna check myself in. And I 300 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 6: told my husband what happened, and I think he thought 301 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 6: I was crazy. But then later that day we was 302 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 6: on our way to the mall and on the radio, 303 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 6: Buster Brown, who was the local DJ at the time. 304 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 6: He came on the radio and he was like, this 305 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 6: is Buster Brown. I got a new TV show on 306 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 6: the WB network, and I'm holding auditions looking for a 307 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 6: female co host. And I could have bust the windows 308 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 6: out the car. I went crazy and across that's my sign. 309 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 6: That's that's that's that's my audition. I got to go, 310 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 6: and I went and I booked that job, and that's 311 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 6: what got me back into dreaming again. 312 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 3: Got you in the TV. 313 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: You're like, okay, but did you did you lose aspirations 314 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: of being an actress or he says, Okay, TV is 315 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: my endpoint to maybe it's just something bigger. 316 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 6: No, I just that was my my sign to get 317 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 6: back into it. I started doing that. I was producing 318 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 6: my own sagments and interview with people right, kind of 319 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 6: like you, okay. 320 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 3: Well I'm in Hollywood. Okay, Hollywood. 321 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 6: I guess that's a sign, right, And so then I 322 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 6: started back doing theater community and then I would drive 323 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 6: three hours to Wilmington to do extra work on One 324 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 6: Tree Hill because I was like, I need to know 325 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 6: what it's like to be on a set, right so 326 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 6: that I can see, like how everything works. And then 327 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 6: I did all that for like a year, and then 328 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 6: I told my husband, now it's tiying to move back. 329 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 2: To La Yep. 330 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: I read where your mom had passed and it was 331 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: a very dark time for you, singinglarly went through some depression. 332 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: So what was that time? So how did you deal 333 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: with what you was going through? Because I'm assuming you're 334 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: very close to your mom and then to the chief 335 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 1: tore like, Okay, I know my mom would want me. 336 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 6: To do what Yet So when my mama was sick, 337 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 6: it was a tough time, you know, because me and 338 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 6: my husband we were still very much so newly married 339 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 6: and we've been together for years, but we were new 340 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 6: in Los Angeles, so I was going back and forth 341 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 6: to North Carolina to help take care of her. 342 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 2: So just that time and to know that it was 343 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 2: a terminal disease. Mama died young. She was fifty one, wow. 344 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 2: And so those three years were hard. 345 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 6: In itself, but I feel like it was the time 346 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 6: that changed me the most, but in the best way, 347 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 6: you know, when you see somebody who was amazing. My 348 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 6: mama was a light, and she was a master at 349 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:54,839 Speaker 6: giving grace, and she loved people, and she never complained. 350 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 6: So I saw my mama go from being this amazing woman. 351 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 6: She was a social worker, she was a pastor who 352 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 6: wore heels every day and was you know, out all 353 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 6: the time, to the point where she was trappingside her 354 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 6: body and could not move because she had a LX. 355 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 2: And never one time did she complain. 356 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 6: And I remember talking to her, and I remember asking her, 357 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 6: you know, Mama, if you could go back and change 358 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 6: and not be sick, would you change it? 359 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 2: And she said no, And I said, you wouldn't go 360 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 2: back and change not getting sick? She said no. That 361 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 2: means God has trusted me with this journey. He knows 362 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 2: I can handle it. And that stuck with me, right, 363 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 2: It stuck with me. 364 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 6: And then just to see her go through it so 365 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 6: gracefully and always have a smile on her face. I 366 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 6: always took that and was like, I gotta do something 367 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 6: with my life, you know. So when she passed away, 368 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 6: I was like, Okay, I'm gonna take any job I can, 369 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 6: just you know, an acting. And I did a lot 370 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 6: for like two years, stuff that nobody needed to really see. 371 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 2: I was like, I booked it. Hey, I'm gonna do 372 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 2: this movie. That's when you know the straight to DVD 373 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, straight yeah yeah yeah yeah, cho Buster and 374 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 2: all that. 375 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 6: I had like five movies and like one year all 376 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 6: went to like DVDs and it, you know. 377 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 2: But I mean it was great. 378 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 6: I mean, of course I joke about it, but I'm 379 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 6: glad for every role I took back then because it 380 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 6: just validated that I was living in a dream that 381 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 6: I had, right, and also that my mama told me 382 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 6: that this day would come. 383 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 2: But back then, I thought that was the day she 384 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 2: was talking about. 385 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: When you I hear you talk about your mom when 386 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: you ask her if she could go back and change anything, 387 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: even with the debilitating disease of ALS, he said she 388 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: wouldn't change a thing. If that what allows you to 389 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: stay so positive because you saw the journey that your 390 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: mom was on, and no matter what you was going through, 391 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: ain't no way it's even comparable to what she's going Listen. 392 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 6: It plays a large role in my everyday life. In 393 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 6: my everyday life, even like right now, things I'm going through, 394 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 6: I'd be like, man, I hate that I'm going through this, 395 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 6: but it's nothing compared to that. 396 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: Right, I'm reading you a ups worker basically warehouse uber. 397 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 3: You worked at Mason and Central City. 398 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 2: I worked in the office at the office, Yeah, at Macy's. 399 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: So you're an uber driver. I was, okay, what type 400 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: of uber driver did you get? It was you get 401 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: one star, two star, three stars. 402 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 2: Liszt said, you know, I was the best super driver. 403 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 6: I did it from October of twenty seventeen to December 404 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 6: or yeah, December thirtieth seventeen, and I was the best 405 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 6: super driver. 406 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 2: I know how to read the room though, I know 407 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 2: what people don't want to talk about, Okay, okay, right. 408 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 6: But I also was like, in my mind, I'm about 409 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 6: to get discovered in my car. 410 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 2: Okay, so everybody that. 411 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 3: You're gonna cast, the director was over here. 412 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 6: I thought I would find a pick up, the producer, 413 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 6: the director of the. 414 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 3: Cast, somebody that can put you on. 415 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 6: I said, I'm gonna get discovered in the car because 416 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 6: they gonna they gonna love me. I'm I'm gonna hit 417 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 6: them with a couple of things and then I'm gonna 418 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 6: just call you from the set. 419 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 2: That's how my mind rights. But I did not. It'll 420 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 2: pick up. 421 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 6: I think I picked up maybe one person who said 422 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 6: they was a producer, and I was like, yeah, you 423 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 6: ain't no producer, but you keep speaking it into existions, right, 424 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 6: But I would every time somebody to get. 425 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 2: Like, hey, how you doing? 426 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: You? 427 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 2: You know? 428 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 3: So you getting so you picked me up? 429 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 2: Uh huh. 430 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: You're gonna introduce yourself? You say, Hi, I'm tabletha. What's 431 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: your name? What type of music wuld like to listen to? 432 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: I have some water, have some wives, have some mints 433 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: in the back. 434 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 2: I have all that. 435 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 3: Star was was. 436 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 6: I had a good crisis three hundreds okay, okay, it 437 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 6: was a nice crist of three hundred. 438 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 3: Okay. 439 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 6: Now when we had the fires, I did go to 440 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 6: the right aid and get. 441 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 2: The mask for the people. This before COVID okay, wow. 442 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 6: Because I was telling people this and the ashes was falling, right, 443 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 6: I was like, I got a little mask right here, 444 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 6: but the water and stuff I couldn't afford all that. 445 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 6: And now I had been on disability for over yah. 446 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 6: I was just getting back on my feet. Just so, 447 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 6: what y'all gonna get this mask? 448 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 3: You mentioned your little disability? What transpired? You? You're following you? No? 449 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 2: I got sick. 450 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 3: Sick. 451 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 6: I got sick in twenty sixteen, and uh I had 452 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 6: a headache in the back of my head and the 453 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 6: headache was there every day for a year and seven months, 454 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,959 Speaker 6: and I started having chronic fatigue in my body and 455 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 6: chronic pain throughout, and I just could not get well, 456 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 6: and going to the doctor every week and every month 457 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 6: and doing blood work and. 458 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 2: All kind of like MRIs, everything would come back normal. 459 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 6: They couldn't figure out what's wrong with right, And so 460 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 6: they just told me one day, they were like, we 461 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 6: know that it's something out of immune making your body 462 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 6: attack itself. 463 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 2: We just can't figure it out. 464 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 6: And so of course when somebody tell you we know 465 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 6: something wrong with you, but we don't know. 466 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 1: Hold on, y'all went to all this school, man, y'all 467 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 1: went to school for ten, fifteen, twenty years. Y'all are 468 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: waiting to get all these yea, and y'all don't nobody 469 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: know nothing. 470 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 6: No, no, So that cost me to fall into the 471 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 6: dark depression. 472 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: So now you depressed because you've got people that's very, very, 473 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: very well educated, and they can't diagnose or tell you 474 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: what's wrong or how long this is going to go on. 475 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 2: This is very true. 476 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, yeah, you try and stand up. 477 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 2: I did. I was doing it for a little while, honey, 478 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 2: And it was right, good in it? 479 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 3: How many jobs? How many time to figure how many 480 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 3: jobs you had? 481 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 2: Or you jaica listen, it's probably my rooms. 482 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 6: Okay, maybe I mean ups Mazie's uber stand up? 483 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 3: What made you decide to do stand up? Were you 484 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 3: fron other child? 485 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 2: Oh? Always? Comedy is natural for me? 486 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 3: Right? 487 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 6: Okay, but I told you my daddy used to buy 488 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 6: me Joe book. We used to watch stand up all 489 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 6: the time. My daddy was a big richer prior thing. Yes, 490 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 6: Jerry Clyd were like all the like. We used to 491 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 6: listen to the records and listen to comedy and then 492 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 6: death comedy Jam when that came, would record them all. 493 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 6: I would play them over and over and over. So 494 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 6: it was just a thing that I loved and I respect. 495 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 6: And so when I was trying to get a TV 496 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,719 Speaker 6: show because I was acting and acting, and I was like, man, 497 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 6: these comedians keep getting. 498 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 2: TV shows, let me go try some standing. 499 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 6: So that's why I did it. That's why I did it, 500 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 6: trying to get a show. 501 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 3: So you were good. So did you get booed? 502 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:48,199 Speaker 4: No? 503 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 2: Never, really never? 504 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:52,719 Speaker 3: So why did you give it up? 505 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 2: I got seeck. So when I got sick. 506 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 3: You thought about going back. 507 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 2: I'm not really every blue moon people would be like 508 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 2: you you stand up again. 509 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 6: I think that now what I do it has stand 510 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 6: up in its own way, right. 511 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 2: But I realized why I love stand up so much. 512 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,239 Speaker 6: It is really to make people feel well, right, And 513 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 6: I do that anyway. 514 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 3: You do your personality. You walk into the room. 515 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: You walked into the room and you have this big 516 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: smile and you're like full of energy and vibrants. It's like, 517 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: even if I'm down, like, damn, she happy. So something 518 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: must be going back to happen to me because she 519 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: just came outside. So when I go back outside, it's 520 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 1: gonna be it's gonna be sunny again. 521 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 3: So you didn't meet anybody in La. How did this 522 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 3: start to take off? 523 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: I read that you did you critique Whole Foods a vegan. 524 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 2: The sandwich sandwich? 525 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 5: Yes? 526 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 1: And from fifty thousand views to a million views and 527 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 1: that was really the launching or the jumping off point 528 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 1: for you. 529 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 2: Yes. So I was driving over right. So this is 530 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 2: December thirty of the twenty seventeen. 531 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 6: I had been a new vegan for a couple of months, 532 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 6: so I had just started doing videos in these couple 533 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 6: of months to tell people excuse me when I find 534 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 6: a new vegan option, or I would cook in my kitchen. 535 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna share it with y'all. 536 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 6: And so I had dropped somebody off buy Whole Foods, 537 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 6: and I was like, oh, I need a little breakfast. 538 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 6: Whole Foods always got a vegan option. Went in there, 539 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 6: and I had never heard of vegan bacon at the time. 540 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 6: I was like, oh, I got a bot, but it's vegan. 541 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 6: Let me get that why they got a play baseall again, 542 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 6: reall yes, And so I got it ate the first 543 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 6: half of the Sundar so quick. I was like, oh lord, 544 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 6: I need to do a video to tell people I 545 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 6: found a new vegan option. 546 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 2: So, sitting in my car, I did the video, posted it, 547 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 2: I went on back to drive an uber. 548 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 6: I ain't think anything really up the video because I 549 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 6: was already doing videos and they won't getting like no 550 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 6: thousands of us. They would get like a couple hundred views, 551 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 6: a couple thousand over a couple of weeks, you know. 552 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 6: And so when I got back home and termed my 553 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 6: notifications on that video had like over. 554 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 2: Fifty thousand views. Wow. 555 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 6: And then I was like, well, we're watching the video like, 556 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 6: I don't know. And then the next morning when I 557 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 6: checked it again, it had over one hundred and some thousand. 558 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 6: I was like, I told my husband I think I'm 559 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:05,719 Speaker 6: going viral, and he was say, what that mean. 560 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know. He was liked, well, 561 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 2: you gonna make some money. I was like, I don't know. 562 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 3: I don't know that either. 563 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 6: But four days later, Whole Food's reached out on Facebook 564 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 6: and my DM and it was like, we saw your video. 565 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 2: We'd love to work with the honey of the rest 566 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 2: in history ever since then. 567 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 1: Ye, so Whole Food's reaching out in your DM. You're 568 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: mispronouncing the sandwich wrong. 569 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. 570 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: They ended up they ended up saying, okay, we're gonna 571 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:26,959 Speaker 1: call it what you call it. 572 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 6: Yes, it was originally TLTA for ten fee letters Tomato Avocado. 573 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 6: I called it TTLA okay cause I was just excited 574 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 6: and I thought I said it right, but I said 575 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 6: it wrong, So they changed it to TTLA. 576 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: Did you go vegan because of what was transpiring with 577 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 1: your body? The auto immune deficient the thing that you 578 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: had going on? And you say, you know what, I 579 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: meet meat and I'm putting all this process food in 580 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: my body, Let me try. 581 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 2: This, Yes, so I went vegan. 582 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 6: My daughter came home from school one day during this 583 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 6: time of my sickness, and she was like, we saw 584 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 6: this documentary at school today, Mom, I think you should 585 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 6: watch it. And it was What the Help on Netflix, 586 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 6: and so we watched it together and I told my husband, 587 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 6: I was like, mmm, when they started talking about not 588 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 6: all diseases being hereditaries that they can eat the same 589 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 6: thing that can cause the same disease in our family, 590 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 6: and I thought, well, my mama. 591 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 2: Died at fifty one, a rare disease. There's no cause 592 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 2: or cure. 593 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 6: And my daddy was the first man to ever turn 594 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 6: seventy in our family. Wow, And people die young in 595 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 6: my family and they get seeking young ages. And so 596 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 6: I thought, well, the only thing we had in common 597 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 6: was how we ate. And I wasn't a bad eater, 598 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 6: right because you know, I was in Hollywood, But I wasn't. 599 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 2: Eating to feel well. I was eating to look a 600 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 2: certain way and that's not the way to live, right. 601 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 6: And so I told my husband. I was like, let's 602 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 6: do a thirty day began challenge because I had tried 603 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 6: every drug. Yeah, did it as a family days because 604 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,479 Speaker 6: I mean, I had taken all the drugs the doctors 605 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 6: gave me because I was a guinea pig. You know, 606 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 6: you don't know what whatever you want to offer me. 607 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 2: I'm desperate to feel better. 608 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 6: Shots in my head, shots in my so I was 609 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 6: doing everything. So we did it for thirty days. In 610 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 6: the first ten days, the headache I got had every 611 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 6: day for a year and seven months disappeared. And so 612 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 6: I was like, wait a minute, that's how I look. 613 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 6: See that little thing you do with your head, That's. 614 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 3: What I say. Okay, okay, So I figured. 615 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 6: I was like, you know what, I'm on the something. 616 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 6: And then after the thirty days, I was getting the 617 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 6: energy again. My pain was leaving my body, and I 618 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 6: was starting to feel like myself. And I was like, 619 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 6: you know what, this is gonna be my life. I'm 620 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 6: gonna go vegan right here. I am almost six yeard 621 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 6: on thirty days. He said, babe, I told him. I said, 622 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 6: I'm gonna be begging back. I'm not going back. 623 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 2: He said, that's so good for you. But tomorrow and 624 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 2: need a piece of cheek. 625 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: Yeah know what I'm thinking. I'm like, I feel good. 626 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: I ain't got no headache about stuff. It don't hurt, 627 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: and I got plenty of energy. 628 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, I said, you know what, that's your business, right, 629 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 6: But he did it two years after I was veging. 630 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 2: I was begging for two years, and then he decided 631 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 2: on his own. 632 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 6: He watched a different documentary Game Changes, and that's from 633 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 6: the athletes and a man's point of view, and then 634 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 6: he did it himself and was vegan for two years, 635 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 6: and then he recently went back to eating fish and chicken. 636 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 3: Yep. Right. 637 00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 1: Did you know social media had the power that it 638 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: had before you went viral? 639 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 5: No? 640 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 6: I didn't think anything really of social media, you know 641 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 6: when you for me as an actress, I was always 642 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 6: told you don't get on their honey. Yeah, theyin't gonna 643 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 6: take it serious, I think, and I kind of believe that, 644 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 6: kind of like over the years. 645 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 2: Of me believing other things that the industry told me. 646 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 2: But I was doing what God told me to do, right. 647 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 6: I only got on social media because I had a 648 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 6: dream and I saw myself on the show. 649 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 2: And I have always had the gift of dreaming and sining. 650 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 6: So when I woke up and I asked God to 651 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 6: reveal that to me, because I was like, I'm sick. 652 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 2: I'm not out auditioning, I'm not doing stand up. 653 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 6: How was I on the show and the words that 654 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 6: I heard was started doing videos. 655 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, no, Lord, I'm not about 656 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 2: to do these videos. I don't do that. 657 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 6: I'm an actress, okay, But he was very adamant. God 658 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 6: was just like, this is what you need to do. 659 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 6: He said, when you were trying to get a show, 660 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 6: you were doing stand up. You was reaching fifteen thirty 661 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 6: people a night, he said, but if you start doing 662 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 6: these videos, you'll. 663 00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 2: Reach thousands and minutes. 664 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,719 Speaker 6: And I was like, Lord, I ain't even got thousands 665 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 6: of people to reach in minutes, Like this don't make sense. 666 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 6: And then he reminded me of the moment in the 667 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 6: bathroom when I had said God, if you heal me, 668 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 6: you can have me, so which meant I had to 669 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 6: be obedient. So when I first started doing my videos, 670 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 6: I was doing the same like jokes and stuff I 671 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 6: would do on stage as a comedian, but I'd be 672 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 6: sitting on my bed or sitting on my couch. 673 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 2: It had nothing to do with food. 674 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 6: Then, over that time, when my daughter came home and 675 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 6: I decided to go vegan, the moment I told my 676 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 6: husband I'm going vegan. The whisper in my ear was, 677 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 6: now tell people what you're eating in your videos. And 678 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 6: I was like, oh Lord, I gotta tell these people 679 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 6: I'm vegan. I'm from North Carolina. This time I had 680 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 6: also shaved off all my hair, so I did the 681 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 6: big chop. I was like, Lord, if I get on 682 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 6: here and tell people, it ain't no challenge, Like it's 683 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 6: my life. 684 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:45,959 Speaker 3: I'm going to be right. 685 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: This is a lifestyle now, this is not thirty day 686 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: sixty day challenge. 687 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 6: Is this is gonna be it. I was like, they're 688 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 6: gonna be like that girl to finally lost my mind. 689 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 6: I just Hollywood. But I was like, I can't care 690 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 6: about it. I got to be obedient and do what 691 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 6: God has called me to do. 692 00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 3: So I had Steve Harvey on a couple of weeks ago. 693 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 2: He said it was amazing. 694 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 1: Thank you, And he said, the number one killer of 695 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 1: dreams is family and friends. When you told your husband 696 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: about this dream, about this vision you have, it seems 697 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: that I've watched a lot of your videos that he's 698 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: been so supported in your dream. 699 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 2: Well, you know, I'm gonna let him tell you eventually. 700 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,719 Speaker 2: But I was crazy. 701 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. 702 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 6: I would have I'd be like, God showed me this 703 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 6: because I have, like I talk about it in my 704 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 6: first book. Right, I've always had the gift of seeing, 705 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 6: whether I'm awake or asleep, I can see things that 706 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 6: nobody else sees. I can hear things nobody. 707 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 3: Else here because he's talking to you, talking to me. 708 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 6: Right, and so I and he's showing me things. My 709 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 6: dreads and my mama would always tell me that. She 710 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 6: was like, you know, God gave you the vision, not 711 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,719 Speaker 6: anybody else. It's up to me to make it manifest 712 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 6: so that others will become believers. 713 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 2: Right, but you speak it so that they know it 714 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 2: is real. 715 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 6: And so you know, there were many times I would 716 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 6: tell him and he'd be like, okay, all right. You 717 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 6: know he would go along because he loves me, not 718 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 6: necessarily because he believe it. But now he'd be like, dang, 719 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 6: everything that you was were living in the dream. 720 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 2: Now do we ever come up. 721 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: And said, baby, you thought of something. Everything we judge it, 722 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: It goes anyway you thought about it. 723 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 2: You thought about something, Yes, yes, you listen. I'll let 724 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 2: him tell you. 725 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 3: So what a social media platform. 726 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously it's Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, TikTok, what's what's 727 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 1: your preference? 728 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 6: I don't really have a preference, but I started on 729 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 6: face Facebook, right, that's my original order, right, which is 730 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 6: my older order? 731 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I thought Facebook was like for family reunions, 732 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: class reunion? 733 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 3: Hey, how you doing that? 734 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 2: Hey? 735 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 3: You know we went to school together. But people are 736 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 3: all really on Facebook. 737 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 6: On there, they really only and they are loyal and 738 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 6: dedicated to their. 739 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 2: People, right, and my following years, I call him family. 740 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 6: Nobody more loyal than my think right, they show up 741 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 6: for me, right, and they and I have Instagram as well, 742 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 6: I mean I have them all. 743 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 2: Instagram is huge for me as well. 744 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 6: But I've never cooked live anywhere else other than Facebook. 745 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 3: So are you the social media opera? 746 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 6: I don't know, but people call me that. They just 747 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 6: a lot of people like you. Are you the new 748 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 6: Oprah for us? And I'd be like, well, god bless 749 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 6: it all? 750 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: Right, but there's something But you're different. But you're cooking, 751 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: but you're giving inspirational talk. 752 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 3: Yes as you. 753 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 2: Cook and sometimes I'm not cooking at all, and. 754 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 3: You feel, yes, was your did your mom? Is that? 755 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 3: Did you? Where do you get that from Where did you? Why? 756 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: Where did you? And why did you decide to add 757 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: that aspect to it? 758 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 2: That was always a thing that I have inside of me. 759 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 6: Like my friends, my family, they know like I'm that 760 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 6: person that would always pour into other people. It just 761 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 6: it's a natural thing for me. But you know, after 762 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 6: I went through my season of the darkness, I was 763 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 6: doing whatever God called me to do, right and I 764 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 6: still am. So when God puts something in my heart, 765 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 6: I'd be like, oh, okay, I need to share this 766 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 6: with somebody. 767 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 2: It can't just be for me, right, Yeah? 768 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 3: You so celebrities obviously everybody. 769 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: CJ, my producer, his wife is here, says and this 770 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: is the first time she come on the set or 771 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,479 Speaker 1: the second time. If you brought a family right there 772 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: in the green, she is like, I gotta meet Tabitha. 773 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: I got to see Tabitha. I so many people. 774 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 3: When they's like, well who you got on the podcast, 775 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 3: I'm saying I got Tabitha. 776 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: Bron Man telling Tabitha Brown, tell I love her, tell 777 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: I love her. Everybody seems to love you. There's nothing 778 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: bad to be. What does that make you feel? 779 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 3: Like? 780 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: With so many celebrities, we understand the fan base, but 781 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: a lot of famous people. No, Tabitha Brown loves Tabitha Brown. 782 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 6: I mean, I feel grateful right to be loved. But 783 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 6: the most I think the most important part for. 784 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 2: Me is that people just love me just for being me. 785 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 6: Yes, you know, so I feel like family and I 786 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 6: think that's what it is for people. People just feel 787 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 6: like I'm part of their family too, And that's intentional 788 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 6: for me, Like I want people to feel like we're family. 789 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 1: So that seems so approachable. You seem so down to earth. 790 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: You don't give the like, don't come talk to me. 791 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: I'm busy, I'm in a hurry. You give the vibe like, hey, 792 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: how you doing? 793 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 3: Come talk? Say hello? It'll do yourself. 794 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 2: I'm going in. I'm going in for the hood. 795 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 6: Like hey, like I love that, But I also like, 796 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 6: how dare I not have time for the people who 797 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 6: help me climb? 798 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 2: You know, I am. 799 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 6: In this position, hey, because God said I could have it, 800 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 6: but because people support me. And so when I have events, 801 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 6: you know, if my team was here, they would tell 802 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 6: you I have events. And if there's a meet and greet, 803 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 6: you better not put a time on it for me 804 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 6: because I'm gonna see every person, Like literally, it will 805 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 6: go from a hour to ten hours, right. 806 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: Because you're having a conversation, you're taking a picture and 807 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: you having a conversation, Hey, how is your day going? 808 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: You know, my mom loves you and you're like obviously 809 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: before you had a team in before people got your number. 810 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: Obviously you have a team, you have a business manager. 811 00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: A lot of the things that would transaction that were 812 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: happening in your DM. You said, Whole Foods reached out 813 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: in your. 814 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 2: DM absolutely on Facebook. 815 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: So do people still reach out and try to and 816 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 1: want to do business with you even though you got 817 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: a team that. 818 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 2: And you don't always pray before I go into my 819 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 2: dms because I need to. I always say, God, let me. 820 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 6: See who what I'm supposed to see, because there's so 821 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 6: many I ever see them all. 822 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 2: But there's still people who can't get. 823 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 6: To my team because you know, some some things depending 824 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 6: on like you know, when your agency is big. 825 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 2: They won't entertain certain things. 826 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 6: But those are the ones that I'll send to my 827 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 6: other team that'll be like, I want to do this 828 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 6: for you know, it ain't about the money, It's about 829 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 6: the people. 830 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 3: Wow. 831 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: So but you also have to be careful because for 832 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: every good deal that could potentially come along, there's a 833 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: scam and the one thing that you don't want the 834 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: ding on Tabitha Brown's name. You work so hard for 835 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: this reputation and this Christine, and you like to keep 836 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 1: it in tap. So what's the process of going through it? 837 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 1: Says Okay, is it your husband? Is it your team 838 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: that you get down to it and says okay, I 839 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: think this might be this is something that we might 840 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: need to entertain or something like, Nah, I'm gonna stay 841 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: away from that. 842 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 2: When you mean like it to come into DM. Yeah, yeah, 843 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 2: if it coming to DM, like, I'll send it to 844 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 2: my team and like you let them better, Yeah, bet 845 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 2: this and see if it's real. 846 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: Right. 847 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 848 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 6: But then also I don't say yes to nothing without prayer, right, 849 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 6: So I pray about it and I'll say, okay, we 850 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 6: can move forward. 851 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 3: I surely appreciate you praying about this because. 852 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 6: When I told my husband, he was like, oh, you're 853 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 6: doing this. 854 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 3: But you you've done so much. I mean you have. 855 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the spices because I have a friend 856 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: of mine and she says, tell Tabitha that I bought 857 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: fifteen of those of those spices. My mom bought ten. 858 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: I said, why the hell y'all bought ten? To the 859 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: safe talk about they sell out? 860 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 2: Yeah they yeah. In the beginning. 861 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 6: The first time I dropped Sunshine was my first season. 862 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 6: It sold out I think in twenty six minutes online, 863 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 6: and so I had no I did it, was gonna 864 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 6: do this right, And then we released it again. And 865 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 6: then maybe like six months later, it broke the site 866 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 6: for McCormick and it was so it sold out in 867 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 6: like forty six minutes. Probably have sold out quicker, but 868 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 6: the site broke and so when it got back up, 869 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 6: it took about forty six minutes. And so then we 870 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,240 Speaker 6: were like, we gotta put it in stores right online 871 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 6: it's just not it's not. Yeah, So now it's available everywhere. 872 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 6: Now I have new spices that are now literally rolling 873 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 6: out the spring and summer. 874 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,359 Speaker 3: I mean, you named and now you got a hair 875 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 3: care product. 876 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 6: Uh huh, Donna's recipe because it's Donna In case you 877 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 6: didn't know it, don she on break Caation right now, 878 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 6: break Caation yeah, yeah, Breid Cash. 879 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:36,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 880 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: So so what made you decide to come up with spices? 881 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 1: Because you said you want to be an actress you didn't. 882 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 1: I didn't hear you say you want to be Martha 883 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: Stewart or some cooking expert. But now you got spices 884 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 1: you cook. How did you transition? How did you weave 885 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,839 Speaker 1: your way and navigate your way to like, Okay, I'm 886 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,439 Speaker 1: done with this, so let me come over here. 887 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 6: So, as I started doing the videos and cooking right, 888 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 6: I was like literally letting God order my steps. So 889 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 6: as I'm cooking, I'm reading comments people like hell, do 890 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 6: you need your own spices? And I'd be like, I 891 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 6: guess maybe I do need my own spices, right, But 892 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 6: I don't know. And you know, the first year, I'm 893 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 6: just cooking and I'm talking, I'm cooking, and then I 894 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 6: thought about it. I was like, you know what, I 895 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 6: do use a lot of different spices, and I'm really 896 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 6: big on being salt free, right because I know, like 897 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 6: my family dynamic exactly, especially with people of color as well, 898 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 6: and so I was like, if I could do a spice, 899 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 6: it would have to be salt free. And so when 900 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 6: I first started working organically with McCormick, it. 901 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 2: Wasn't even really a thought. I was like, oh, well, 902 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 2: this is great. 903 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,800 Speaker 6: I can use their stulf because my granted using my 904 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 6: mama used them, and I'll just continue to use it. 905 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 6: And they were like, you ever thought about doing your 906 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 6: own spice? I was like, actually I have, and it 907 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 6: was an organic thing. But also because my people wanted it, 908 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 6: so I wanted to give them what. 909 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 3: They asked for, right, So how did the hair product 910 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 3: come about? 911 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 2: So Donna's recipe? 912 00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,919 Speaker 6: Well, you know, with Donna, I had did the big child, 913 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 6: and so as she was growing out, I had a 914 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 6: nice little fro and to begin a little small one. 915 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 6: And so I also have stenosis in my neck from 916 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,879 Speaker 6: a car accident, and so for a period of time 917 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 6: I had to lay flat on my back, so my 918 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 6: hair started to thin in the back and I was like, 919 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 6: oh lord, I need to find something to make my 920 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 6: hair strong again and make it grow bad. And so 921 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 6: I started trying to find different products, but a lot 922 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 6: of products had chemicals in them, and I was like, well, 923 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 6: I'm on this new journey of being vegan, and I 924 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 6: had had that headache for you know, the year prior. 925 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 6: I didn't want to just put anything back on my head, 926 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,359 Speaker 6: especially you know that's going to seep into my you know. 927 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:35,800 Speaker 2: My pores. 928 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 6: Correct, So I started trying to create my own with 929 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 6: like essential oils and natural oils, and I just couldn't 930 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,799 Speaker 6: get it done on my own. And so I was 931 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 6: doing that for almost a year, trying to like like 932 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 6: I was like a chemist, tap in right right in 933 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 6: the house, in the bathroom. And so my business partner's 934 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 6: my business partner now, Gina Woods. She came to me 935 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,360 Speaker 6: and was like, I had this idea Donalds. She have 936 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 6: her own hair Caroline. I was like, girl, I've been 937 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 6: trying to do that for a year, you know. And 938 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 6: so she presented her idea to me and my husband, 939 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 6: and I was like, okay, this is kind of you 940 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 6: know already what I was doing anyway. 941 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 2: So that's how it came to be. 942 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 6: But it was really because I needed a product for myself, 943 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 6: and once I figured out the formul I was like, well, 944 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 6: I can't keep this to myself. 945 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 2: I want to share it with the world. 946 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,800 Speaker 1: So what have you learned about entrepreneurship and business because 947 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 1: a lot of people now we see a lot of 948 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,240 Speaker 1: saying okay, I won't instead of taking a fee up front, okay, 949 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 1: let me take a percentage of the company. 950 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 3: Let me get there. So let me get that. 951 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: So what have you learned because I read where you 952 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,320 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, some people got me in the beginning, 953 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 1: they did a number on me. 954 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 3: They got they got your girl. 955 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:42,479 Speaker 6: Yes, So in the very beginning doing brand deals and partnerships, 956 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 6: I didn't know that business. I knew SAG, I knew 957 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 6: the union, I knew acting word, and so I had 958 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 6: to learn it. 959 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,280 Speaker 2: I'm glad they got me because they won't give me again. 960 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you come back, I'm gonna get you 961 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 1: and okay, okay. 962 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 2: So I learned a lot that way. 963 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 6: But the one thing I learned is that people will 964 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 6: show up and try to act like they are. 965 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 2: They have your best interests, but you gotta be like, 966 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 2: you have to use your discernment. 967 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:10,319 Speaker 3: Right. 968 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 6: Everybody don't have your best interests, and a lot of 969 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 6: people want to pull from you and gain from you, right, 970 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 6: and even try to take your your businesses. You know, 971 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,359 Speaker 6: they'll think that they own you. So I've always making 972 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 6: it very clear that the tab is not for sale. 973 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 6: You can do business with me, but you. 974 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,399 Speaker 2: Don't own me and you don't own my brand. Right. So, uh, 975 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 2: that's the thing. 976 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 6: And you just got to be very careful with business 977 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 6: and with who you do business with. You cannot trust everybody. 978 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 6: You cannot trust everybody. 979 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 3: Okay, you hurt no matter. 980 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,359 Speaker 1: What they say, no matter what they say, no matter what, 981 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 1: no matter what color, either, no. 982 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 6: Matter they can look like you or not. But you 983 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 6: cannot trust everybody. 984 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,360 Speaker 1: I get, Okay, you're doing doing spices. I get everything 985 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 1: you make your spices, most spices are created. But how 986 00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 1: do you get in teld you with a lab to 987 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 1: try to do a haircare line product that all of 988 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 1: a sudden people ain't looking like Kojak, women ain't looking 989 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,279 Speaker 1: like Kojak because that's the last thing that you want. 990 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 6: I mean, you won't believe this because it's another job. 991 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 6: It's not on their ice working contract manufacturing. 992 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:13,440 Speaker 2: Right. 993 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:19,399 Speaker 1: So I know you born in Jamaicon you you born 994 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 1: a jam You had no way you got detailed twelve jobs. 995 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 2: I did that for like five years. It was for 996 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:29,800 Speaker 2: you know, wellness and beauty products. 997 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 6: Wow. 998 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 2: And so I already knew that. 999 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,239 Speaker 3: So you had a background. You had a background, and 1000 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 3: so you understood. 1001 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 2: I understood it. I understood the lab. 1002 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 6: I understood you know, testing, I understood formulation, I understood 1003 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,280 Speaker 6: shipping and all that stuff. 1004 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:41,879 Speaker 3: Wow. 1005 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 1: You know, Master P is always preaching about product. So 1006 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,399 Speaker 1: what do you what do you love? Because it's like, 1007 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 1: you gotta make money while you sleep. You cannot meant 1008 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 1: you got to get your rest and you can't cook 1009 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 1: twenty four hours a day and you can't make beauty 1010 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 1: supplies twenty four hours a day. So what is what 1011 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 1: is Tabatha most proud of? What she's been able toccomplished 1012 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 1: thus far. 1013 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 6: Oh, I think the thing I'm most proud of is 1014 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,879 Speaker 6: that I've done it all just being me. That's that's 1015 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:12,359 Speaker 6: my biggest accomplishment, never conforming in the season of my life, right, 1016 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 6: you know, I think I really that's it, you know. 1017 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,879 Speaker 6: And also family is the most important thing to me, yes, 1018 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 6: you know, being a wife and being a mother and 1019 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:27,279 Speaker 6: never sacrificing anything over there, like that's I'm most proud 1020 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 6: of that. 1021 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 1: Being an next professional athlete, I felt that I had 1022 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 1: to sacrifice, that I missed a lot of things with 1023 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,760 Speaker 1: my kids that I probably shouldn't have, but I felt 1024 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 1: that if I didn't, I would always look back and 1025 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,359 Speaker 1: say that if I'd didn't, if i'd have studied, if 1026 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 1: I'd have worked hard, if I had have trained harder, 1027 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:45,840 Speaker 1: I'd have missed something. 1028 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,320 Speaker 3: It seems to me that You've done. 1029 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 1: A great job of not only being there for your 1030 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 1: husband and for your kids, but also being able to 1031 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:59,239 Speaker 1: go full steam ahead and accomplish Was that a big 1032 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 1: part of what you want? Like, I'm not sacrificing any 1033 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 1: part of my family to make one extra dollar for me. 1034 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 6: I'm blessed because I have a husband who's my partner, 1035 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,880 Speaker 6: who literally says, babe, go I got it, you know, 1036 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 6: And I have that. So when I leave, I know 1037 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 6: that my children are taking care of the now. 1038 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 2: We only have my son in the house. 1039 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 6: You know, my daughter is grown now, but I know 1040 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 6: I have a safe space for my son and he 1041 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 6: knows that mommy is working. 1042 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 2: But when it comes to major things, I'm not missing it, right. 1043 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:29,319 Speaker 2: I don't care how much money it is. 1044 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 6: If my son is about to graduate fifth grade, and 1045 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:32,640 Speaker 6: I looked at the calendar and it was like what 1046 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,239 Speaker 6: y'all put on my calendar on this day? 1047 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:38,319 Speaker 2: I can't go wow, Like, no, it's this amount of money. 1048 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 2: I don't care. He gonna graduate one time from fifth grade. 1049 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 6: I can make money any day, right, So it's those 1050 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,800 Speaker 6: major things that are important to me and my husband 1051 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,359 Speaker 6: take Like, I also still am human, so I'll even 1052 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 6: have parent guilt where I'm like, I miss being able 1053 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 6: to take him to school every day. We literally was 1054 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 6: just having this conversation. I miss the normalcy that I 1055 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 6: used to be able to do. I used to take myself, 1056 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 6: my son, and my daughter to school every morning, pick 1057 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,879 Speaker 6: them up, make their lunches, cook dinner every day. 1058 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 2: That was my life for a very long time. 1059 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 1: But you understood that that's part of the sacrifice, that 1060 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 1: those are some of the things that you're gonna have 1061 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 1: to give up in order to accomplish what god di 1062 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,840 Speaker 1: vision that God gave you and set you out on 1063 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 1: this journey. You understood that there were some of the 1064 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 1: things You're gonna have to give up. 1065 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 6: I'm understanding it every day, right. It doesn't mean I 1066 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 6: enjoyed that feeling every day. Sometime I miss it, But 1067 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 6: I also look at my life and how blessed I am, 1068 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,280 Speaker 6: and I'm like, oh, okay, I'm still doing a different 1069 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,760 Speaker 6: type of work that my family is reaping the benefit. 1070 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,360 Speaker 1: You secured over fifty six major brand deal, Dunk and Donuts, Cybro, 1071 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 1: Pizza Plan. 1072 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 3: I mean, you just have so much going on. 1073 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:45,319 Speaker 1: So how does Tabitha walk into a room you know 1074 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,200 Speaker 1: your worth you know, they want to come in and 1075 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 1: give you twenty five percent of what your worth is. 1076 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,319 Speaker 1: So how do you go in the room says now 1077 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,399 Speaker 1: it's worth more than that. I still be Yeah, I'm 1078 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:59,320 Speaker 1: not gonna be able to do that. 1079 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 6: What I say, I'll be letting them get everything out. 1080 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 2: I'm like, this is so, this is nice. Thank y'all 1081 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 2: for letting me come. But you know where it's gonna 1082 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 2: be aenough for me? I'm so grateful for. 1083 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 3: Yes, I appreciate the opportunity. 1084 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 2: Yes, thank you for thinking of tails. Yeah, but no, 1085 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 2: yeah it's a tail. 1086 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. So then they come back and say it's okay. 1087 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 1: So Ms Brown, how do how do we make this 1088 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 1: partnership work? Well, we start by this what you say 1089 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 1: at the beginning, That about how it's gonna go. 1090 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 6: You know, for me, depending on what it is, Sometimes 1091 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 6: it ain't about the money, right. Sometimes it's just about 1092 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,880 Speaker 6: whatever it is. I'm like, this don't serve me right. 1093 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 6: There's no amount of money that's gonna make it serve 1094 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 6: me right. And then when it comes to the money, 1095 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 6: this is the thing that you always have to realize, 1096 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,480 Speaker 6: there's no amount of money enough for what I deserve. 1097 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 6: It's only like, I'm priceless, right, Okay, okay, it's what 1098 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 6: I will accept. Oh right, there's no amount of money 1099 00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,319 Speaker 6: you can offer me that. It's what I'm worth. 1100 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 2: I'm worth. 1101 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,640 Speaker 6: I am priceless, but there's an amount that i'll accept 1102 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 6: to partner with you and work with you. 1103 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 2: That's the difference. And so I just have to make 1104 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 2: a decision do I want that or not. 1105 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 3: I'm gonna keep that in mind. 1106 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,879 Speaker 2: I'm priceless, you are priceless, but. 1107 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 3: For a nominal fee, I'll be read in the partner. 1108 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 2: With That's it? 1109 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:19,600 Speaker 3: Like that? 1110 00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's your that's that's your mindset going into it. 1111 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 1: You do you have a do you have a normally 1112 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 1: when you go into a deal, do you have a 1113 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 1: dollar amount? Do you have a Have you surprised yourself 1114 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,280 Speaker 1: with some of the things that you've been able to negotiate? 1115 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:37,799 Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely, Yeah, you know, I definitely. 1116 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 6: I remember, like one of the first times of asketball 1117 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 6: a crazy amount of money just to see what they 1118 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:48,439 Speaker 6: was gonna say. And then when they said yes, I said, yeah, 1119 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,400 Speaker 6: that's that your husband. 1120 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 2: Are No he would have been like yeah, I was. 1121 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,279 Speaker 2: I was good with that. Shoot, but we're gonna go 1122 00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,319 Speaker 2: on and take but you know next time, you know so. 1123 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:05,719 Speaker 1: But yeah, you hosted a vegan competition, so you only 1124 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,960 Speaker 1: eat vegan. You have to sold you how much of 1125 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 1: your time is sitting around trying to come up with 1126 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,880 Speaker 1: different vegan recipes because, like you say, you cooked so much. 1127 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:15,879 Speaker 3: But you have to understand. 1128 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 1: Because people, most people have eating meat all their life, 1129 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,799 Speaker 1: and to get them to try this and to make 1130 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,279 Speaker 1: them like it, because that's the thing. People eat what 1131 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 1: they like, that's right, And so how do you like? Okay, 1132 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,879 Speaker 1: you just go in the kitchen, like, babe, I'm gonna 1133 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,319 Speaker 1: go in the kitchen. I'm gonna see what I can 1134 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 1: come up with. Tonight, I'm gonna see what I can 1135 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:32,960 Speaker 1: come up with the day. Is that how you do it? 1136 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,239 Speaker 2: It just come up it literally throughout the day. 1137 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 6: If I got a taste for something, that's what I'm 1138 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,320 Speaker 6: gonna make, okay, right, And sometimes I'll dream a recipe. 1139 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 6: One of my most successful recipes is when I dreamt 1140 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:43,799 Speaker 6: and I woke up the morning, did a video and said, yeah, 1141 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:44,880 Speaker 6: let me say about the dream I had. 1142 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,840 Speaker 2: It was a vegan devil the eggs, and in the dream. 1143 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 3: I was like, but with eggs, but they're real eggs right. 1144 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:52,560 Speaker 2: Now, they're mushrooms. 1145 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,840 Speaker 6: I took the white mushrooms because I did this in 1146 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 6: the dream and I was like, I don't know, but 1147 00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,359 Speaker 6: I'm gonna see if it's gonna. 1148 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:00,920 Speaker 3: So you so you can't eat the animal product. 1149 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:01,799 Speaker 2: I do not know. 1150 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you. I want you little she got 1151 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 1: to go on this journey alone. 1152 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:10,759 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't you know. 1153 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,439 Speaker 6: When I first did it, I did it to save 1154 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 6: my life, right and now after six years of being vegan, 1155 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,320 Speaker 6: it becomes a thought where I now connect the animals 1156 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,480 Speaker 6: to the food. Oh okay, yeah, yeah, Now I ain't 1157 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,839 Speaker 6: gonna lie to you though I still miss a crab leg. 1158 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,320 Speaker 2: Do you you know how people count? She crab legs? 1159 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 6: In my sleep, I'll be telling people, you know, during 1160 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,640 Speaker 6: the day when I'm awake, I'm vegan, but when I'm 1161 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,280 Speaker 6: sleeping pescatary because I be eating crab legs and dreams. 1162 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 3: What about ice cream? 1163 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:38,920 Speaker 1: You don't, I mean, you don't miss sweets, so like 1164 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:40,120 Speaker 1: like cake and cookie? 1165 00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,359 Speaker 2: Do you all that stuff? You still can eat. 1166 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,520 Speaker 6: You just don't use real eggs, and you don't use 1167 00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:50,160 Speaker 6: there's vegan butter, there's vegan milk, there's all this stuff. Honey, 1168 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 6: I can You're gonna have to come to the house 1169 00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,560 Speaker 6: and eat okay, but I don't bake. I'm not a baker, 1170 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 6: and I was already allergic to milk. 1171 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,040 Speaker 1: Like most of the yeah, most of the yeah, yeah, 1172 00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,600 Speaker 1: I keep If I think I'm gonna eat something that 1173 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:01,719 Speaker 1: has there it, I'm gonna take. 1174 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:02,439 Speaker 3: Keep black tape. 1175 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:03,720 Speaker 2: Say that again. 1176 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:05,920 Speaker 3: If I think I'm gonna eat something there, I keep 1177 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:06,759 Speaker 3: lac tape with me. 1178 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,560 Speaker 1: Why we do that cause I like iron creams sometimes 1179 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,080 Speaker 1: and I want to eat some cheese if I. 1180 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:12,719 Speaker 3: Wanted some cheese. 1181 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:14,680 Speaker 2: But why do you have to keep the lac tape? 1182 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,200 Speaker 1: Because what happens my stummach that it don't agree with 1183 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:21,560 Speaker 1: my stomach, but know why, but it'll agree with me time. 1184 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,120 Speaker 3: I'll tell my stomach shut up, I'm gonna eat this. 1185 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,160 Speaker 6: But there are other options for you so that you 1186 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,399 Speaker 6: could still get all the tastes that you're looking for 1187 00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:29,600 Speaker 6: without the bubble. 1188 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 1: Good well, Hollywood, and now we did have some bigger 1189 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:33,200 Speaker 1: We have some bigger barbecue. 1190 00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,319 Speaker 3: Then with Hollywood, Hollywood tore it up. He tore it up. 1191 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,680 Speaker 6: There are options. I'm to get you on some old 1192 00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:40,960 Speaker 6: ice cream or some cashew ice cream. 1193 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:46,160 Speaker 2: It's amazing, Hollywood. You down, I'm telling you, it's very good. 1194 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,200 Speaker 3: I would let Hollywood go be the guinea pig hood. 1195 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,320 Speaker 1: You had a restaurant, but you never opened it. 1196 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:53,319 Speaker 2: We closed it. 1197 00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,239 Speaker 6: Yeah, it was too many problems with the building, the 1198 00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,760 Speaker 6: landlord another thing where I say, you can't trust everybody. 1199 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:01,400 Speaker 6: Or we had to close it down because it was 1200 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,720 Speaker 6: just too much damage that he would not fix. 1201 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:09,600 Speaker 1: Right, So is opening another restaurant? Is that something that 1202 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:10,319 Speaker 1: you would like to do? 1203 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:12,719 Speaker 6: I think if I do, because that was a partnership 1204 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,759 Speaker 6: that I partner, would kill my name, kill my name. 1205 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:15,600 Speaker 2: I love the restaurant. 1206 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,240 Speaker 6: It's still open in Chicago, and so I just partner 1207 00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,080 Speaker 6: with him to open that one here in la If 1208 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,359 Speaker 6: I do it again, it has to be my restaurant, right. 1209 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:29,360 Speaker 1: Obviously, But are you Is it going to be like breakfast, 1210 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,080 Speaker 1: It's gonna be lunch, It's gonna be brun Oh. 1211 00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,400 Speaker 6: H you know, I gotta I have to make a 1212 00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,800 Speaker 6: decision to do it first. I think my the big 1213 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:40,080 Speaker 6: vision that I have would be like a retreat. And 1214 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,080 Speaker 6: on the location of the retreat, like you know in 1215 00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,719 Speaker 6: oasis or where you can come, there would be kind 1216 00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,960 Speaker 6: of like a bed and breakfast there, but like a 1217 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:49,920 Speaker 6: homehouse where you can come for breakfast and you can 1218 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 6: come for dinner type of thing. 1219 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,920 Speaker 2: But that's like a vision that I have for later. 1220 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,640 Speaker 3: Have a company ever tried to change the way you 1221 00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:57,280 Speaker 3: do content? 1222 00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:01,560 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, even after when after the success that they've 1223 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:06,360 Speaker 1: seen you enjoy, they're still willing to try to change 1224 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:08,400 Speaker 1: what you do how you do it. 1225 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:14,680 Speaker 2: Yes, but people are crazy in the world. 1226 00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,800 Speaker 3: But they don't but they know what they. 1227 00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:23,040 Speaker 6: They love you and then they say, we love exactly 1228 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:23,600 Speaker 6: what you do. 1229 00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:25,280 Speaker 2: Now we want to show you this video. 1230 00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,000 Speaker 6: And then they play the video and people don't look 1231 00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:29,640 Speaker 6: like me, and they say, if you could do it 1232 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:30,400 Speaker 6: a little bit. 1233 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:35,600 Speaker 2: Like this, No, there you go. Yeah, yeah, it's not 1234 00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:36,000 Speaker 2: for me. 1235 00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:37,680 Speaker 3: Do people when they look at you? 1236 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,160 Speaker 1: I think the thing is and sometimes people are all 1237 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,400 Speaker 1: saying is that people take kindness for weakness. You have 1238 00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,560 Speaker 1: a smile all the time. You seem to be a 1239 00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:49,520 Speaker 1: very outgoing and very personable person. Do you think people 1240 00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,920 Speaker 1: take that as a weakness and try to try to 1241 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:53,400 Speaker 1: get over on you all the time. 1242 00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:58,160 Speaker 6: But I'm very smart, but they will try it and 1243 00:49:58,239 --> 00:49:59,080 Speaker 6: I let them. 1244 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,200 Speaker 1: I like the do you get up does she I 1245 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:03,960 Speaker 1: would ask him, I was asking me to do you 1246 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:04,520 Speaker 1: get upset? 1247 00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:05,279 Speaker 2: Yes? 1248 00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,319 Speaker 3: But how do you? But but you all. 1249 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,319 Speaker 1: I'm saying, it's like, guys, y'all know I'm not gonna 1250 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:10,479 Speaker 1: be able to do that right. 1251 00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,520 Speaker 2: Well, you know, it takes a lot to get me 1252 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:14,120 Speaker 2: up right. 1253 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,160 Speaker 6: Okay, Most times when it comes to like that type 1254 00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,080 Speaker 6: of stuff, it's not gonna upset me. It's just a 1255 00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,719 Speaker 6: matter of, Oh, I'm so sorry that you didn't see 1256 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:24,239 Speaker 6: me for me. 1257 00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,000 Speaker 2: But you know what, I hope you found what you're 1258 00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:30,200 Speaker 2: looking for, right, right, But that's not something that. 1259 00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:31,280 Speaker 3: That's not that doesn't get you upset. 1260 00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,320 Speaker 6: Things upset me is when you mess with my family, 1261 00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:37,640 Speaker 6: you mess with my money and my time, right because 1262 00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:41,120 Speaker 6: I use all those things for my family and for myself. 1263 00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,719 Speaker 1: So how is it that, I mean, this is a 1264 00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:49,120 Speaker 1: you know, and content creators. What you do, what you do, 1265 00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,759 Speaker 1: there's a very large there's a space for it, but 1266 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,040 Speaker 1: it's a limited people that's in that space. How is it? 1267 00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,520 Speaker 1: Are you guys friendly? Are you receptive to one another? 1268 00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:58,560 Speaker 1: Is it cutthroat? 1269 00:50:59,239 --> 00:50:59,439 Speaker 3: Oh? 1270 00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:04,839 Speaker 2: And I love everybody. That's enough room for everybody, right, 1271 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,680 Speaker 2: So I never compared myself to anybody. 1272 00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:10,320 Speaker 6: I don't really care what nobody else do. I applaud everybody, right, 1273 00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:11,799 Speaker 6: we all did. 1274 00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,719 Speaker 1: So since they print money, we shouldn't try to cut, 1275 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,160 Speaker 1: backstab and undermind somebody else to get to keep. 1276 00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,319 Speaker 6: God asked for me is for me. What He has 1277 00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,840 Speaker 6: for you is for you. There's nothing we can do 1278 00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:22,360 Speaker 6: to stop that. 1279 00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,560 Speaker 1: So what God is saying for for me? Even Hollywood? 1280 00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:33,600 Speaker 1: You heard that, Hollywood, You heard that, Hollywood. So but 1281 00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:37,640 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not gonna break this is not interrupt 1282 00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:38,960 Speaker 1: the normal schedule programming. 1283 00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,920 Speaker 3: We know vegan. When we hear vegan, we think of 1284 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,680 Speaker 3: someone that doesn't look like you. 1285 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:44,399 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. 1286 00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,879 Speaker 6: When I listened back in the day, and I said 1287 00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,080 Speaker 6: this many times. When I used to hear the word vegan, 1288 00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,000 Speaker 6: I thought that it was for white women who did yoga, 1289 00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,440 Speaker 6: right I did, and nobody was really vegan. 1290 00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,760 Speaker 2: I heard a vegetarian right right, right, right right. 1291 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,040 Speaker 6: And then I thought, well, if that's not the case, 1292 00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,680 Speaker 6: it's the people who walk around picketing, you know, and 1293 00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:07,759 Speaker 6: they were in the you know, the blood all over 1294 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,640 Speaker 6: them and doing the type of activist and I didn't 1295 00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,279 Speaker 6: want to do that. And so I knew that when 1296 00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:17,279 Speaker 6: I made the decision to become vegan. I wanted to 1297 00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,120 Speaker 6: be a source of a different type of life, and 1298 00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,479 Speaker 6: so I always wanted to be approachable, and I wanted 1299 00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,319 Speaker 6: people to be curious and to want to try it, 1300 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,600 Speaker 6: and so I did it with love and laughter and 1301 00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,880 Speaker 6: a little bit of comedy but informative. So I have 1302 00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,480 Speaker 6: probably converted I can, of course, can't you eat a 1303 00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:38,960 Speaker 6: number but more people than any you know, traditional activists, 1304 00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,440 Speaker 6: more people than you can imagine coming to miss I'm 1305 00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,200 Speaker 6: vegan because of you. I eat plant based me and 1306 00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,080 Speaker 6: my family eat plant based now because of you. And 1307 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,719 Speaker 6: I'm like that I've never told anybody in the last 1308 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,319 Speaker 6: six years. I've never told not one person you need 1309 00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:53,920 Speaker 6: to go vegan. 1310 00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:54,680 Speaker 2: Never. 1311 00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,120 Speaker 1: So how do you So when you're home, do you 1312 00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,400 Speaker 1: cook vegan for you and cook him bacon? 1313 00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,360 Speaker 6: I used to when when I first went begin that 1314 00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,200 Speaker 6: first year, I was cooking like them two meals and 1315 00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,839 Speaker 6: I was like, I can't keep doing that. So then 1316 00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,040 Speaker 6: I just figured out how to make all our favorite 1317 00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:14,360 Speaker 6: things vegan and make it good. 1318 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:15,040 Speaker 2: And everybody loved it. 1319 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,719 Speaker 6: So all my favorite non vegan things, I turned them 1320 00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:18,719 Speaker 6: into vegan meals. 1321 00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:20,000 Speaker 3: So he got to go out. 1322 00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:21,239 Speaker 1: So you got to go out and get it if 1323 00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:22,960 Speaker 1: you want a steak, or if you want to burgers 1324 00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:23,319 Speaker 1: or chicken. 1325 00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,520 Speaker 6: But he don't eat that. He's chicken and fish, but 1326 00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:27,239 Speaker 6: he can order it or. 1327 00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,719 Speaker 2: You. Yeah. 1328 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:36,560 Speaker 1: So I'm looking at athletes have turned big and Chris Paul, Kyrie, Irving, Venus, 1329 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:42,680 Speaker 1: William Lizzo. So I'm trying to figure out, man, how 1330 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,280 Speaker 1: would I be able to keep my musculature and stay 1331 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:47,160 Speaker 1: you know strong? 1332 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,080 Speaker 2: You ever seen a gorilla? 1333 00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:51,239 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1334 00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:52,680 Speaker 2: What you think they eat? 1335 00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:58,320 Speaker 1: They you grassed, but the four hundred pounds of it. 1336 00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:05,719 Speaker 1: But I think in the beginning had but that's all 1337 00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:09,000 Speaker 1: they eat. I think the thing is if who had 1338 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:12,200 Speaker 1: never gotten to taste, it's hard to miss what you've 1339 00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:12,840 Speaker 1: never tasted. 1340 00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:15,719 Speaker 2: Well, yes and no. 1341 00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:21,400 Speaker 6: I think that you have to have a very specific why. 1342 00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:21,719 Speaker 2: Right. 1343 00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,400 Speaker 6: Eventually you're not gonna do dairy anymore because you're not 1344 00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:26,879 Speaker 6: gonna like how it continues to. 1345 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:32,279 Speaker 2: Make you feel. Okay, if meat was killing me, i'd 1346 00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:33,360 Speaker 2: be crazy to keep eating. 1347 00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:34,719 Speaker 3: That is correct, right. 1348 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,200 Speaker 2: So a lot of times we are reactive people. 1349 00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:41,200 Speaker 6: We do things out of something happening, so we react 1350 00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,400 Speaker 6: to it instead of being proactive practice. 1351 00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:43,799 Speaker 2: We wait. 1352 00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,360 Speaker 6: Many times we wait until we get sick before we 1353 00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,920 Speaker 6: try to get better, right, instead of just saying, let 1354 00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,640 Speaker 6: me be proactively trying to make sure I'm as healthy 1355 00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,719 Speaker 6: as I can be. And so when it comes to 1356 00:54:55,760 --> 00:55:00,280 Speaker 6: me my why was life or death? I chose life. 1357 00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,120 Speaker 6: And then I also got it in my mind. I 1358 00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,160 Speaker 6: was like, I just don't want to eat dead animals anymore. 1359 00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,440 Speaker 6: I just don't like the thought of it anymore. Right, 1360 00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,040 Speaker 6: I don't even like the smell of it. When it's raw. 1361 00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,440 Speaker 6: It turns my stomach. Now, I ain't gonna lie to 1362 00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:13,800 Speaker 6: you how I can smell a cook out of my 1363 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:18,640 Speaker 6: way and be like, Lord, have mercy, somebody is cooking. 1364 00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,720 Speaker 6: But you know, that's the difference in not thinking about 1365 00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:25,520 Speaker 6: what you see. But there's there's definitely a way to 1366 00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,800 Speaker 6: incorporate it and form new habits, right, And I always 1367 00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,040 Speaker 6: tell people this to don't look at it as though 1368 00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,799 Speaker 6: you're taking something away from yourself. Look at it as though, oh, 1369 00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:35,160 Speaker 6: I'm giving myself something new to try. 1370 00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:38,080 Speaker 1: Right, I'm gaining six months, six years to my life. 1371 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:40,759 Speaker 1: Maybe that's the way you look at it. That's the 1372 00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,440 Speaker 1: way because you said you had had you let me 1373 00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:47,000 Speaker 1: ask you this, had you not had the autoimmune. Had 1374 00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:48,960 Speaker 1: you not had the headache for a year and seven months, 1375 00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:52,640 Speaker 1: had you not had the lethargy, would you do you 1376 00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:53,760 Speaker 1: believe you to go on vegan? 1377 00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:57,880 Speaker 6: No, I didn't have a reason right, not necessarily, but 1378 00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:02,600 Speaker 6: I may have eventually only because oh I heard vegans 1379 00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:03,120 Speaker 6: be skinny. 1380 00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:07,600 Speaker 2: But then I got vegan and got pig because now 1381 00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,040 Speaker 2: their lives, because now I be eating and eating right. 1382 00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,440 Speaker 2: And also I don't eat to look a certain way. 1383 00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:14,720 Speaker 2: I used to starve myself. 1384 00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:16,640 Speaker 1: But let me ask you a question, could you do 1385 00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:18,879 Speaker 1: you believe you can be a vegan in rural North 1386 00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,360 Speaker 1: Carolina because a lot of it, because it gets hard 1387 00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,719 Speaker 1: because you in California, you have a lot of options. 1388 00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:29,040 Speaker 1: In carol and in Canada you don't have those same options, 1389 00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:33,600 Speaker 1: especially in rural South Carolina, Georgia or the rural parts 1390 00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:34,120 Speaker 1: of the South. 1391 00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,840 Speaker 6: I could be a better vegan in rural North Carolina 1392 00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:38,080 Speaker 6: really because. 1393 00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:39,719 Speaker 3: You grow your food right. 1394 00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:44,600 Speaker 2: Most of our you know, parents and grandparents were mostly vegan. 1395 00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:46,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, they ate what they grew, They ate. 1396 00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:49,520 Speaker 6: What they grew, and meat was a delicacy. They only 1397 00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,520 Speaker 6: had it on the weekend. Yes, my daddy was one 1398 00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:53,680 Speaker 6: of twelve My daddy always, he said, you know, until 1399 00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:55,360 Speaker 6: you became BigGAN, I never thought about it. 1400 00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:58,920 Speaker 2: But we only ate chicken on Sundays, he said, we 1401 00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,160 Speaker 2: only ate pento beans and from the. 1402 00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:05,759 Speaker 3: Green during the week. Right, Well, you know we have 1403 00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:07,759 Speaker 3: some We know we have fat back in green though. 1404 00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:10,520 Speaker 3: You know we had a fat back. We had to 1405 00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:11,400 Speaker 3: have a fat bathroom. 1406 00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:14,640 Speaker 2: That's all there, y'all had. 1407 00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,360 Speaker 3: That was special occasion. Though you did, you didn't, You didn't. 1408 00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:20,479 Speaker 6: Get it all the time yet absolutely, you. 1409 00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,560 Speaker 3: Know what, I think this is the part of the show. 1410 00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,560 Speaker 3: We probably should invite your husband. 1411 00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:29,960 Speaker 2: Bring them on in the room. 1412 00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:36,160 Speaker 3: You sit right there. 1413 00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:38,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and no backs right there now. 1414 00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:40,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not gonna be You're not gonna be able 1415 00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:40,520 Speaker 3: to leave back. 1416 00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:43,800 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. They stay behind Every great man is a 1417 00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:47,160 Speaker 1: great woman. But I think behind every great woman that's 1418 00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,040 Speaker 1: like your wife, that has to be a great man 1419 00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:53,400 Speaker 1: because you have to be secure enough in yourself because 1420 00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:55,520 Speaker 1: you kind of become the afterthought. 1421 00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:58,920 Speaker 3: And you seem to be very very okay with that. 1422 00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,400 Speaker 1: You guys have been together over twenty five years, been 1423 00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:04,480 Speaker 1: together for twenty years when. 1424 00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,680 Speaker 3: You started dating her, did you see y'all here? 1425 00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:19,000 Speaker 5: Absolutely not? You know what it had, I didn't really 1426 00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:24,800 Speaker 5: have much vision. People always ask me about it, you know, 1427 00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:29,560 Speaker 5: very similar questions, and I always say I wouldn't with 1428 00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,680 Speaker 5: her for that, right. I was with tab because of 1429 00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:36,640 Speaker 5: how she made me feel right, right, And yes, I 1430 00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:43,520 Speaker 5: thought she was a little crazy. I was attracted to crazy. Yeah, 1431 00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:46,920 Speaker 5: that's the difference, a right. So I'm with her because 1432 00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:51,320 Speaker 5: of my attraction to that crazy. When she would. 1433 00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:51,480 Speaker 3: Tell me. 1434 00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,760 Speaker 5: One day, I'm gonna be on TV one day, you 1435 00:58:55,760 --> 00:59:00,760 Speaker 5: know whatever, I would get tickled. I would tackle because 1436 00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:04,160 Speaker 5: I can look in her eyes and you really believe this, right, 1437 00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:08,560 Speaker 5: And it made her happy. It made her really really happy, 1438 00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:14,440 Speaker 5: a happiness that I kind of I wish that I 1439 00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,040 Speaker 5: could tap into from my own childhood. And I remember, 1440 00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:20,120 Speaker 5: I remember feeling like what I've seen in her eyes, 1441 00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,919 Speaker 5: and I'm saying, man, at some point in my life, 1442 00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:26,040 Speaker 5: I lost that while you're a true believer of what 1443 00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:29,520 Speaker 5: you're saying. So whatever it was, I was like, I 1444 00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:33,760 Speaker 5: didn't really try to believe it. I just wanted to 1445 00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,640 Speaker 5: keep her happy and say, all right, man, let's go 1446 00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:38,840 Speaker 5: for yo, as long as it's not hurting us. 1447 00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,680 Speaker 3: Even though you might have not believed in it. 1448 00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:44,480 Speaker 1: You never told her that You're like, baby, that sounds 1449 00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:45,560 Speaker 1: like a good idea. 1450 00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:46,720 Speaker 3: I think you can do it. 1451 00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:49,520 Speaker 5: Yep, I would, I would, And then it would be 1452 00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,920 Speaker 5: times where I'd be like, all right, dam wait a minute, 1453 00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,880 Speaker 5: hold up. Like the story she told you about moving, 1454 00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:59,880 Speaker 5: I'm always up to thinking. My thinking was what a 1455 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,800 Speaker 5: we currently doing right? 1456 01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:02,640 Speaker 3: Right? 1457 01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,640 Speaker 5: Can it hurt us? Can your vision or this dream 1458 01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:07,640 Speaker 5: or this thing that you believe in? Can it hurt us? 1459 01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:11,160 Speaker 5: If we ain't currently doing anything better? And what you're 1460 01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:15,840 Speaker 5: saying can't hurt us, Let's try it. Let's go for it, 1461 01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:17,960 Speaker 5: right right, It's not gonna hurt us. So let's put 1462 01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:19,680 Speaker 5: a plan together. As long as we got a plan 1463 01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:23,280 Speaker 5: and we got each other and ain't nothing else going on, 1464 01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:24,920 Speaker 5: let's go do it. Let's try it. 1465 01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:29,960 Speaker 1: You guys started dating, if you could say, the eighth 1466 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:33,400 Speaker 1: grade is dating in the eighth grade, when you. 1467 01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:37,360 Speaker 3: Saw him for the very first time, what did you think? 1468 01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:38,160 Speaker 5: Oh? 1469 01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:40,520 Speaker 6: I saw him way before eighth grade. We known each 1470 01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:44,000 Speaker 6: other since about what fifth grade? And so I thought 1471 01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,000 Speaker 6: it was cute with his little curly hair and stuff. 1472 01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,480 Speaker 6: But he was mean, That's what I thought he was. 1473 01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:52,760 Speaker 6: I was like, Oh, he got a little attitude. 1474 01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:53,800 Speaker 3: Okay, you like I'm it. 1475 01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:54,280 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1476 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:58,080 Speaker 6: But then in eighth grade, you know, he was playing 1477 01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:01,560 Speaker 6: football and I was the football manager. 1478 01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:07,520 Speaker 2: You know, I had a job in eighth grade, Damp, 1479 01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:10,680 Speaker 2: and so when we would. 1480 01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:13,840 Speaker 6: Do the bus rides, I just would be looking at 1481 01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,480 Speaker 6: him like, you know, the eye contacted. 1482 01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:18,200 Speaker 2: I was like kind of like him. 1483 01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:18,800 Speaker 6: You know. 1484 01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:22,560 Speaker 3: Did you know she liked you? Yeah? 1485 01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:26,280 Speaker 5: I was kind of popular back the father. That's the man. 1486 01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:29,280 Speaker 3: You okay, you a popping man. I was a man. 1487 01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:32,560 Speaker 2: He was. He was a mad everybody like chance. Okay. 1488 01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:36,360 Speaker 2: He had a girlfriend though what and I had a 1489 01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:37,040 Speaker 2: little boyfriend. 1490 01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:38,720 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay, get good. 1491 01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:42,000 Speaker 2: We went to we went to a birthday part. 1492 01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:46,840 Speaker 6: Uh, y'all came separate, left together, came separate, and we 1493 01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:48,680 Speaker 6: ended up kissing at the birthday. 1494 01:01:49,960 --> 01:02:01,080 Speaker 1: Damp, Damp, Come on, Chances. We had a minute that 1495 01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:02,840 Speaker 1: a minute. I'm talking about you. 1496 01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:07,480 Speaker 6: You came for somebody and y'all because he didn't want her, 1497 01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:08,120 Speaker 6: no way he did. 1498 01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:09,720 Speaker 3: It seemed like you want. 1499 01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:13,240 Speaker 2: Thrill was gone in those eighth grade relationships. 1500 01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:15,960 Speaker 3: This was the thing the eighth grade dance. 1501 01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:18,360 Speaker 2: Listen, but this is the funny thing. 1502 01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:21,240 Speaker 6: His girlfriend was happy he broke up because she likes 1503 01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:24,440 Speaker 6: somebody else to My boyfriend was a little hurt. 1504 01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:24,840 Speaker 4: But. 1505 01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:27,560 Speaker 5: Look junior high crush. 1506 01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:29,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, but she is. 1507 01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:32,320 Speaker 2: You know, he was a man back bed. But you 1508 01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:34,280 Speaker 2: know I broke up with him in eighth grade. 1509 01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:38,600 Speaker 3: Hold on, you kids, break up with his girlfriend. 1510 01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:43,480 Speaker 2: He's still he's still all these years, he still hold on. 1511 01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:49,440 Speaker 5: To this my whole life, almost all the eighth grade. 1512 01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:51,560 Speaker 6: But my sister, she older than me, she's six years old, 1513 01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:52,880 Speaker 6: and she said, listen, you about to go to ninth 1514 01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:53,840 Speaker 6: grade to the high school. 1515 01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:55,360 Speaker 2: Yes, a lot of boys over there. You don't want 1516 01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:56,120 Speaker 2: a little boyfriend. 1517 01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:58,080 Speaker 6: So I told him, I said, listen, we gotta break 1518 01:02:58,120 --> 01:02:59,720 Speaker 6: up because my sister says, a lot of boys over 1519 01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,120 Speaker 6: it high school. I got to see what's out there. 1520 01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,120 Speaker 6: And so he hated me for breaking up. That's why, 1521 01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:07,640 Speaker 6: you know in high school he wouldn't even speak to me. 1522 01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:10,240 Speaker 6: But that's how I ended up. I have a stepdaughter 1523 01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:11,600 Speaker 6: because he had a baby in high school. 1524 01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:13,760 Speaker 2: So I always tell him to see, I'll let you 1525 01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:15,800 Speaker 2: go and now see if I. 1526 01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:17,520 Speaker 3: Had a we had to say together, that's a great 1527 01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:18,360 Speaker 3: way to transition. 1528 01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:21,440 Speaker 1: I remember I read an interview where you told your 1529 01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,080 Speaker 1: mom you would never marry You would never date a man, 1530 01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:26,720 Speaker 1: let alone marry a man with a child. 1531 01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:27,440 Speaker 2: Very true. 1532 01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:29,800 Speaker 3: What changed? 1533 01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:31,440 Speaker 2: I was fifteen. 1534 01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:34,000 Speaker 6: We were at a basketball game at high school and 1535 01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,680 Speaker 6: I remember he couldn't stand me, right, and so uh 1536 01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:39,080 Speaker 6: at the game, you my mom would sit on the 1537 01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:41,280 Speaker 6: bleachers and he walked up and he was standing on 1538 01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:43,360 Speaker 6: the corner of the wall with his girlfriend. 1539 01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:47,160 Speaker 3: They all day, you did perfect. You want to understand 1540 01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:48,960 Speaker 3: you you got your little kids. 1541 01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:51,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't have to be honest with you. 1542 01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:53,480 Speaker 5: I wouldn't even think about her when told when she 1543 01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:57,360 Speaker 5: told me the story, yeah, years later, I remember it right, 1544 01:03:57,800 --> 01:03:58,840 Speaker 5: I wouldn't think of about it. 1545 01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:00,640 Speaker 6: And I looked and I just I like rolled my 1546 01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:03,400 Speaker 6: eyes like, m you know whatever. And my mama was like, 1547 01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:05,000 Speaker 6: I don't know why you're doing that. I was like, 1548 01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:06,760 Speaker 6: she was like, I'm gonna tell you what's gonna happen. 1549 01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:09,000 Speaker 6: She said, that little girl gonna get pregnant and they're 1550 01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:11,600 Speaker 6: gonna have a baby. But that's your husband. I said, oh, well, 1551 01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:14,600 Speaker 6: you gonna know me because I would never marry men 1552 01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:16,960 Speaker 6: with kids. That's what I'm supposed to think at fifteen, right, 1553 01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:21,880 Speaker 6: And so Mama was right. She was right on graduation day. 1554 01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:25,200 Speaker 6: Years later, on graduation day, my mama came. 1555 01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:26,920 Speaker 2: To me and she said, go get chance. 1556 01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:28,840 Speaker 6: I want y'all to have a picture with y'all was 1557 01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:30,320 Speaker 6: Captain gown I'm gonna used to sitt y'all with. 1558 01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:32,640 Speaker 2: And I said, would you stop? Why would you say 1559 01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:33,400 Speaker 2: something weird like that? 1560 01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:33,560 Speaker 3: That? 1561 01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:36,800 Speaker 5: My mother loves my biggest fan. She loved Chanes. Yeah, 1562 01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:37,880 Speaker 5: she was my biggest fan. 1563 01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:38,880 Speaker 2: And she used that picture that. 1564 01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:40,360 Speaker 5: I went, yeah, and she was gifted too. 1565 01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:41,160 Speaker 3: Wow. 1566 01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:45,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, your mom saw something that you didn't see at 1567 01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:46,240 Speaker 1: the time. 1568 01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:49,120 Speaker 3: You had like you'd have broke over me. You ain't 1569 01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:51,000 Speaker 3: want me. So yeah, you did your thing. 1570 01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:54,240 Speaker 1: And here all these years fifth grade, So your fifth 1571 01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:56,680 Speaker 1: grade you're probably what eleven years old, twelve years old? 1572 01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:58,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, all that time. You guys. 1573 01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:03,040 Speaker 6: From the same hometown. Yeah, the same small small city. 1574 01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:06,320 Speaker 6: But I would see him in high school. I would 1575 01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:08,160 Speaker 6: always have this like little pain in my stomach when 1576 01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:08,720 Speaker 6: I would see him. 1577 01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:09,920 Speaker 2: It was like a feeling. 1578 01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:15,439 Speaker 5: I always tell us guilt. He said, it was, Yeah, 1579 01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:17,280 Speaker 5: that's guilt, That's. 1580 01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:17,640 Speaker 3: What that is. 1581 01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:20,760 Speaker 6: But I went to college and in Miami. He went 1582 01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:23,200 Speaker 6: to college in North Carolina, and so I was there 1583 01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:25,440 Speaker 6: and one night. I woke up in the middle of 1584 01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:27,040 Speaker 6: the night. He was the only person I could think about, 1585 01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:29,320 Speaker 6: and I was like, just thinking about all the years 1586 01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:30,640 Speaker 6: that I would see him, and I had this pain 1587 01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:33,000 Speaker 6: in my stomach. And we had kind of became friends 1588 01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:35,720 Speaker 6: again in our senior year, and I just had this 1589 01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:38,000 Speaker 6: thought of, like, I think I'm in love with him. 1590 01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:40,400 Speaker 6: And so I found his number in the middle of 1591 01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:41,720 Speaker 6: the night. By the time I called him, it was 1592 01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:43,800 Speaker 6: about three thirty four in the morning, and I called 1593 01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:45,120 Speaker 6: his kept calling the room. 1594 01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:46,360 Speaker 2: His roommate answered. 1595 01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:47,560 Speaker 6: I was like, I need to beat the chance brows 1596 01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:49,520 Speaker 6: and emergency. And so when he got on the phone, 1597 01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:51,840 Speaker 6: I was like, I know this might sound crazy. I 1598 01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,400 Speaker 6: was like, but I think I'm in love with you. 1599 01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:55,760 Speaker 6: I was like, So I just told him. I was like, 1600 01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:59,080 Speaker 6: all these years I would see you, and I would 1601 01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:01,480 Speaker 6: have this pain in my stomach. I was like, I'm 1602 01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:04,520 Speaker 6: thinking about all these different things, and if you don't 1603 01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:08,160 Speaker 6: think I'm crazy coming back to Marge's number, he ain't 1604 01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:10,440 Speaker 6: say nothing on the phone, and then I. 1605 01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:13,720 Speaker 5: I had to start out a little bit. 1606 01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:17,600 Speaker 2: I waited all day. 1607 01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:24,600 Speaker 3: A little bit. But yeah, but obviously you had felt 1608 01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:27,360 Speaker 3: the exact same way. Yeah, you know. 1609 01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:31,120 Speaker 5: The crazy thing is I held on to it my 1610 01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:38,680 Speaker 5: entire high school school years, right, And I would see her, 1611 01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:42,080 Speaker 5: I see her in passing, and it was always something 1612 01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:46,920 Speaker 5: about this one particular girl who always she's always been 1613 01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:50,920 Speaker 5: full of joy like and it was a feeling that 1614 01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:54,000 Speaker 5: that I always say that only my mom could give 1615 01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:56,560 Speaker 5: me like it make me feel like I can do anything. 1616 01:06:57,160 --> 01:07:00,360 Speaker 5: That's what I remember about the entire time. Now, I 1617 01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:02,800 Speaker 5: didn't start living a whole different life. I'm in college 1618 01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:06,240 Speaker 5: and went through high school playing sports popular by my 1619 01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:10,400 Speaker 5: own means, right, and nobody could ever make me feel 1620 01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:13,520 Speaker 5: like that besides my mam and this one particular girl. 1621 01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:20,960 Speaker 5: And this was now after a few incidents. But I 1622 01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:23,280 Speaker 5: like to say, you know things that where a lot 1623 01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:25,080 Speaker 5: of people had kind of started looking at me as 1624 01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:28,560 Speaker 5: being problematic. Right, So you got somebody who still got 1625 01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:33,240 Speaker 5: no no marks on their record, got their whole life 1626 01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:36,560 Speaker 5: ahead of them, right, and she still admiring your boy. 1627 01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:41,280 Speaker 5: And I'm like, man, this girl still got that little 1628 01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:43,480 Speaker 5: bit of crazy in her that I just I can't kick. 1629 01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:46,120 Speaker 5: It's crazy for you to call me after four years 1630 01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:48,280 Speaker 5: in the middle of the night and say what you 1631 01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:50,360 Speaker 5: said on the phone to me. That was crazy, but 1632 01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:52,280 Speaker 5: I was attracted to it. I was like, man, this 1633 01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:57,040 Speaker 5: girl still this girl weird. But I can't kick it. 1634 01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:01,200 Speaker 3: I'm a caller. So I called it, hey, and so 1635 01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:06,040 Speaker 3: would you call the phone? Damn chaying what did you say? 1636 01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:10,919 Speaker 5: First? She had a she had a roommate that didn't 1637 01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:14,200 Speaker 5: speak English. She was in Miami and I called her 1638 01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:18,599 Speaker 5: and I just remember the roommate answer in the phone, 1639 01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:20,880 Speaker 5: and I'm trying to say her name like she and 1640 01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:23,680 Speaker 5: I'm like making like this, this can't be. I got 1641 01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:26,479 Speaker 5: the number wrong, and she I could tell when she 1642 01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:28,559 Speaker 5: grabbed the phone. She got on the phone excited. 1643 01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:31,680 Speaker 2: I had been waiting by the year all day on that. 1644 01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:33,000 Speaker 3: But you we were gonna call it. 1645 01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:36,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, So when she got on the phone, I just 1646 01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:37,960 Speaker 5: I kept it. I tried to keep it. 1647 01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:39,000 Speaker 3: You try to keep it g D. 1648 01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:42,559 Speaker 5: I tried to guy's like, hey, you called me, Yeah, 1649 01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:44,439 Speaker 5: say did you. 1650 01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:46,640 Speaker 2: Really call me at four o'clock in the morning. I 1651 01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:47,719 Speaker 2: was like, yep. 1652 01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:49,600 Speaker 5: And I ain't want to be jumping out there, so 1653 01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:52,040 Speaker 5: I just let her do the most, you know. But 1654 01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:55,040 Speaker 5: in my head, I'm like I had told my homeboys 1655 01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:57,519 Speaker 5: that in college. I was like I had one friend 1656 01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:58,840 Speaker 5: who I can always. 1657 01:08:58,479 --> 01:08:59,240 Speaker 3: You know that one friend. 1658 01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:01,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, So I'm telling him all the reasons why. 1659 01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:02,559 Speaker 3: The whole day. 1660 01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:04,439 Speaker 5: I'm like, man, this girl call me. I'm about trying 1661 01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:06,559 Speaker 5: to live my life, and now you want to come 1662 01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:08,679 Speaker 5: and get your boy back. I'm bating like I'm somebody. 1663 01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:13,439 Speaker 5: He was, and he waited and he waited. 1664 01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:14,320 Speaker 3: My boy tied. 1665 01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:15,240 Speaker 5: I love him to this day. 1666 01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:15,519 Speaker 3: Man. 1667 01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:19,880 Speaker 5: He said, you scared, fool man, You're gonna call her? 1668 01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:20,200 Speaker 3: You know. 1669 01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:23,639 Speaker 5: I'm like, Nah, I ain't gonna call her. I waited 1670 01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:25,439 Speaker 5: till the end of the day, the end of the day, 1671 01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:29,400 Speaker 5: and I called her, you know, and I knew I 1672 01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:31,040 Speaker 5: was you know what I mean, Like it was just 1673 01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:34,040 Speaker 5: one of those where I was like, I don't want 1674 01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:35,960 Speaker 5: to be this dude. You know that ego thing right 1675 01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:36,960 Speaker 5: right right right? 1676 01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:38,200 Speaker 3: I called her. 1677 01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:42,160 Speaker 5: I called her, and here we are twenty five years later. 1678 01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:47,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, is marriage everything you thought it would be? 1679 01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:48,519 Speaker 3: You too thought it would be. 1680 01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:51,519 Speaker 2: It is nothing that we thought it would be. 1681 01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:54,800 Speaker 3: Is that good? Or Man? 1682 01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:59,759 Speaker 1: It's good because you guys make it sound so perfect. 1683 01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:03,800 Speaker 1: But there has to be some disagreements at some point? 1684 01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:10,840 Speaker 1: What what about the fairy tale? For feel grade and 1685 01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:14,799 Speaker 1: I hertale no, no, no, See, don't. 1686 01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:18,920 Speaker 5: Be confused about okay, marriage, See what you know what, 1687 01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:20,760 Speaker 5: I didn't come from a house. I didn't come from 1688 01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:23,639 Speaker 5: a family of marriage, But I ain't have no understanding 1689 01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:27,000 Speaker 5: of what marriage was. Right, her parents were married and 1690 01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:32,560 Speaker 5: you know, church going, you know that, you know, so 1691 01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:34,680 Speaker 5: I didn't have an understanding of what marriage was. So 1692 01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:37,400 Speaker 5: when you asked a question, I'm like, I had this 1693 01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:44,920 Speaker 5: ridiculous idea. This really just male perspective of what marriage is. 1694 01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:47,760 Speaker 5: I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna have this. It's gonna 1695 01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:50,200 Speaker 5: I ain't gotta be out here chasing this because it's 1696 01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:54,160 Speaker 5: at the house. That was really in simple what it was, 1697 01:10:55,120 --> 01:11:01,280 Speaker 5: but as we uh, as we grew together, it became 1698 01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:05,560 Speaker 5: something completely different. It became you know that, that's my 1699 01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:08,800 Speaker 5: best friend. You know, that's that that's that unconditional thing, 1700 01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:11,680 Speaker 5: that's that thing to where even when I'm in I'm 1701 01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:13,960 Speaker 5: not ready to hear what she's saying, I got to 1702 01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:18,120 Speaker 5: revisit it. And now it's a possibility that she could 1703 01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:20,600 Speaker 5: be right. This is the one, this is this is 1704 01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:23,719 Speaker 5: the person, the one person on this earth, even outside 1705 01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:25,760 Speaker 5: of my mom. Right now, my mom, I'm always right, 1706 01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:28,439 Speaker 5: I'm a baby feel but this is the one person 1707 01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:33,360 Speaker 5: that's gonna that has no interest in trying to backdoor 1708 01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:37,519 Speaker 5: me or get one over on me. I gotta consider it. 1709 01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:40,240 Speaker 5: And that's invaluable, you know what I mean. That's you know, 1710 01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:42,439 Speaker 5: so I started to learn what marriage truly is. And 1711 01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:46,920 Speaker 5: also in the aspect of it's it's like a fortune 1712 01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:49,080 Speaker 5: five hundred company, you know what I mean. It's that 1713 01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:51,599 Speaker 5: thing to where you say, look, if you don't take 1714 01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:54,479 Speaker 5: pride in anything else, you should be able to take 1715 01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:58,680 Speaker 5: pride in this companion that is building your legacy, you know, 1716 01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:00,640 Speaker 5: where your kids will be able to a lot of 1717 01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:02,640 Speaker 5: people don't have. Like I'm listening to your interview with 1718 01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:06,320 Speaker 5: my wife, right, and you asked her a question, what's 1719 01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:07,760 Speaker 5: the one thing that you're most proud of? 1720 01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:08,160 Speaker 3: Right? 1721 01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:11,600 Speaker 5: I knew she was gonna say that, right. But what 1722 01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:15,559 Speaker 5: I value out of all of this that I didn't 1723 01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:19,920 Speaker 5: have growing up is that my great grandkids will be 1724 01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:23,000 Speaker 5: able to go and find something with the Brown family 1725 01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:26,080 Speaker 5: to name on it. They'll be able to say, my 1726 01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:30,599 Speaker 5: great grandmama, she wrote two books. My great grandma got 1727 01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:33,519 Speaker 5: nominated for this. My great grandmama is the reason I'm 1728 01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:35,720 Speaker 5: able to go to this nice school. My great, I 1729 01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:38,080 Speaker 5: ain't have none of that. Those things right there is 1730 01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:41,840 Speaker 5: what marriage turned out to be, and more important than 1731 01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:45,120 Speaker 5: what I thought marriage was about, was you know those 1732 01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:50,840 Speaker 5: male ego driven dumb things and materialistic things from the South. 1733 01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:51,360 Speaker 3: I am. 1734 01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:54,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, the marriage when you got home to meal was 1735 01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:58,840 Speaker 1: on the table, the wife cook, clean, did all those things, 1736 01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:00,160 Speaker 1: and what. 1737 01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:01,120 Speaker 3: The man said. 1738 01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:02,840 Speaker 1: I don't know how it was in your house, but 1739 01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:06,840 Speaker 1: what the man said when it wasn't. No, Okay, let's 1740 01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:09,120 Speaker 1: think about it. Let's talk this through. He said, we 1741 01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:10,920 Speaker 1: going to church. We went the church, he said, we 1742 01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:14,360 Speaker 1: go in here, we going there. But I'm looking at you. 1743 01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:17,840 Speaker 1: It really is a fifty to fifty yes, And that's 1744 01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:20,960 Speaker 1: what I treasure that the most. I don't have to 1745 01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:23,400 Speaker 1: carry all that weight. So you know how you started 1746 01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:25,720 Speaker 1: with me being able to play the back. 1747 01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:29,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, I have no issue with that. I have no 1748 01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:30,440 Speaker 5: issue with that because. 1749 01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:31,920 Speaker 1: Because you but you know a lot of men would 1750 01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:35,439 Speaker 1: a lot of men would feel emasculated if their wife 1751 01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:39,719 Speaker 1: or their significant other because yo, she said, hey, you're 1752 01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:40,519 Speaker 1: the police officer. 1753 01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:42,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, she said, set that down. Yep. 1754 01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:45,400 Speaker 5: I got a baby, and that's because of that little 1755 01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:46,280 Speaker 5: bit of crazy right. 1756 01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:46,639 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1757 01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:50,840 Speaker 5: So look, so from the very beginning, I'm not lying 1758 01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:52,560 Speaker 5: to you. Ill could literally come in the house and 1759 01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:55,439 Speaker 5: tell my wife I wanted to be an astronaut and 1760 01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:58,760 Speaker 5: the next day she's gonna have a paperwork everything late. 1761 01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:01,800 Speaker 5: It's because support. That's the kind of support that I 1762 01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:04,400 Speaker 5: got from my wife. Right, I'm order to suit forman 1763 01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:08,640 Speaker 5: and say, look, she was that kind of crazy, right, 1764 01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:12,320 Speaker 5: So I got all of that prior to what the 1765 01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:16,280 Speaker 5: world see right now. See, they don't know that portion 1766 01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:18,160 Speaker 5: of the story, like how she was there supporting me 1767 01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:21,000 Speaker 5: and making me feel like an outpa male and king. 1768 01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:24,759 Speaker 5: She didn't treat me like a king for the majority 1769 01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:27,000 Speaker 5: of our relationship, believing in me. 1770 01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:30,720 Speaker 1: When I say, even before they knew who Tabitha Brown was. 1771 01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:34,120 Speaker 1: So she was treating you like this before she was Hey, 1772 01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:38,120 Speaker 1: I'm Tabitha Brown all that I just read the. 1773 01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:40,439 Speaker 5: Other day, believing in me, and I need people to 1774 01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:43,479 Speaker 5: understand that, believe in when I say, I got us 1775 01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:47,599 Speaker 5: right and even when I didn't believe in myself, finding 1776 01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:50,599 Speaker 5: a way to get me back up into my belief 1777 01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:52,519 Speaker 5: system so that I could take care of my family. 1778 01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:55,920 Speaker 5: So she's been playing second so well that I learned 1779 01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:58,560 Speaker 5: from her how to do it and what I and 1780 01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:00,559 Speaker 5: now I need to be a soldier for her. Right, well, 1781 01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:03,560 Speaker 5: I'm gonna be a soldier for so it's easy for me, 1782 01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:11,320 Speaker 5: and especially when it's coming like this in abundance. This up, 1783 01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:13,639 Speaker 5: I'm good. 1784 01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:17,719 Speaker 1: I read Gabrielle Union. She said her and her husband 1785 01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:22,200 Speaker 1: split everything fifty to fifty. And I'm listening to you, guys, 1786 01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:25,800 Speaker 1: and you know, marriage is a is a is a 1787 01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:29,000 Speaker 1: personal person thing. What works in their marriage might not 1788 01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:31,519 Speaker 1: work in this marriage, and it might not work for you, guys. 1789 01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:33,240 Speaker 1: So what are your thoughts to have Let me get 1790 01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:35,599 Speaker 1: you first, what are your thoughts on you guys splitting 1791 01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:37,479 Speaker 1: things fifty I. 1792 01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:40,680 Speaker 6: Don't really know about fifty to fifty because it's one 1793 01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:42,080 Speaker 6: hundred one hundred right, right? 1794 01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:44,800 Speaker 2: What was mine as his and was his? 1795 01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:49,160 Speaker 6: Like we when we started our relationship, we had one 1796 01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:52,479 Speaker 6: bank account one right, we both had a deblocard that 1797 01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:58,800 Speaker 6: was it was anything in it honey, old draft, the 1798 01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:02,479 Speaker 6: old draft, thie. But we you know, that's when we 1799 01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:04,880 Speaker 6: both we both was working at the costs in it together, right, 1800 01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:07,920 Speaker 6: So all our money went together, We balanced it together. 1801 01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:10,840 Speaker 6: We kept a notebook and we would do buildsing the 1802 01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:11,880 Speaker 6: notebook and we would talk. 1803 01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:15,240 Speaker 5: About what and I said, our real savings. We only 1804 01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:17,400 Speaker 5: had that account because it was starting to be a 1805 01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:18,960 Speaker 5: part of life where you had That's how you butt. 1806 01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:21,479 Speaker 5: Our real savings was in a Nike shoe box. 1807 01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:22,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1808 01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:25,360 Speaker 6: So it's always been our money together, right, And now 1809 01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:28,400 Speaker 6: we have multiple accounts, but we're both still on them all. 1810 01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:31,920 Speaker 2: So there's no money that he doesn't know about it. 1811 01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:34,519 Speaker 2: There's no money I don't know about. We just in 1812 01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:35,040 Speaker 2: it together. 1813 01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:35,880 Speaker 3: Wow. 1814 01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:42,479 Speaker 1: Worked so to see tab because this is not traditional. 1815 01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:44,640 Speaker 1: This is a different way of doing things. Normally, the 1816 01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:47,240 Speaker 1: husband goes off the work, the wife stays at home, 1817 01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:50,880 Speaker 1: takes care of the kids. Okay, boom, Now you have 1818 01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:53,840 Speaker 1: a very non traditional and you, like you said, you're like, 1819 01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:56,680 Speaker 1: I'm cool with it, bro, I'm cool with it. How 1820 01:16:57,920 --> 01:16:59,920 Speaker 1: do you because a lot of times it's the home 1821 01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:02,080 Speaker 1: because they always got something say bad. I can't believe 1822 01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:04,240 Speaker 1: you let your your woman take care of you, stopping 1823 01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:08,439 Speaker 1: all crazy. But because you had known her for so 1824 01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:13,040 Speaker 1: long and you guys had been together for so long before, 1825 01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:15,200 Speaker 1: it didn't even bother. 1826 01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:15,560 Speaker 3: You did it. 1827 01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:19,320 Speaker 5: And that's why that's and you just summed it up. 1828 01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:24,360 Speaker 5: It didn't. There's I only know one other couple like 1829 01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:27,639 Speaker 5: me and my wife that knew each other so long 1830 01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:32,080 Speaker 5: and grew up together. So and I really kind of 1831 01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:35,840 Speaker 5: keep my circle tight, you know, I don't really, Yeah, 1832 01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:38,559 Speaker 5: I don't really. So I haven't encountered too many people 1833 01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:41,200 Speaker 5: in my immediate circle. I've had quite a few people, 1834 01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:43,800 Speaker 5: especially when I moved here to La, to kind of 1835 01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:45,840 Speaker 5: tell me that we weren't gonna make it, and you know, 1836 01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:48,960 Speaker 5: all this because it's just impossible. But I'm a country boy. 1837 01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:50,439 Speaker 5: You ain't seen the city yet. You don't know what 1838 01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:53,880 Speaker 5: kind of women out here, that type of thing. But 1839 01:17:57,520 --> 01:17:58,880 Speaker 5: when I came out here, I came out here with 1840 01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:04,880 Speaker 5: a gold and that goal was for us to make 1841 01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:09,439 Speaker 5: something out of nothing. Right, So I found my I 1842 01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:12,200 Speaker 5: just associated with people who were married, other young people 1843 01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:14,400 Speaker 5: who were married, or other people who were married and 1844 01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:16,720 Speaker 5: like minded. And when it started tourn you know, going 1845 01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:19,840 Speaker 5: left with negative thinking and negative I kind of put 1846 01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:22,640 Speaker 5: a wedge in there to protect what I got in 1847 01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:23,280 Speaker 5: my household. 1848 01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:26,400 Speaker 3: Wow, I heard Steve Harvey had like I said. I 1849 01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:28,800 Speaker 3: had him on. He said, blended family is hard. 1850 01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:35,040 Speaker 1: How was it you know, your daughter accepting tab and 1851 01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:37,960 Speaker 1: tab understanding because I think the thing is that you 1852 01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:39,880 Speaker 1: hear a lot of kids you not my mom, you 1853 01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:42,960 Speaker 1: not my dad, Like I'm gonna tell your tale of 1854 01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:44,080 Speaker 1: like I'm your mom or your dad. 1855 01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:44,879 Speaker 3: You better hunt. 1856 01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:47,160 Speaker 1: Hard. 1857 01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:49,599 Speaker 2: It's hard, It is definitely hard. 1858 01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:53,479 Speaker 6: But I don't think it's because of the children, right. 1859 01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:57,680 Speaker 6: The adults make things hard, right, really absolutely so for me, 1860 01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:02,240 Speaker 6: I've been Leah's stepped since she was two, so she 1861 01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:03,280 Speaker 6: don't know nothing else. 1862 01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:06,280 Speaker 2: Her parents were never together, right, so she never saw that. 1863 01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:11,200 Speaker 2: So all she knows this and it's always been tailed. 1864 01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:13,040 Speaker 6: I ain't never like I was a stepmam before I 1865 01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:16,759 Speaker 6: was a mother, wow right, I had that role before 1866 01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:19,600 Speaker 6: I was a moment so uh, And I always loved it, 1867 01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:20,479 Speaker 6: you know. 1868 01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:22,439 Speaker 2: It was always a fun thing for me, and I 1869 01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:24,280 Speaker 2: still do. I mean she's good and grown now. She 1870 01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:28,000 Speaker 2: about to be twenty eight, so she's grown grown. 1871 01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:30,599 Speaker 5: But yeah, and it's hard because of just even two 1872 01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:34,560 Speaker 5: with us moving and separating ourselves. There's a culture in 1873 01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:38,800 Speaker 5: North Carolina how you raise kids, right, absolutely in the South, Yeah, 1874 01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:41,520 Speaker 5: then there's a difference, and we wanted we didn't necessarily 1875 01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:44,479 Speaker 5: bring everything with us on how we wanted to raise 1876 01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:47,600 Speaker 5: our kids. To La, but we bought a lot of it. 1877 01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:50,559 Speaker 5: But there are some indifferences, right, So when those two worlds, 1878 01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:54,560 Speaker 5: you know, it's like they collide. The adults have a 1879 01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:56,040 Speaker 5: problem yet you get what I mean. 1880 01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:59,679 Speaker 6: So we also learned as we as we were parenting 1881 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:04,240 Speaker 6: our children that we had together, we were learning that, 1882 01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:06,840 Speaker 6: oh wait, just because this is how it was for us, 1883 01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:08,519 Speaker 6: it's gonna work for our kids, right. 1884 01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:10,080 Speaker 2: And there was a lot of things I want to 1885 01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:10,280 Speaker 2: tell you. 1886 01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:12,840 Speaker 1: You can't discipline your kids like you got this going 1887 01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:14,759 Speaker 1: to jail, then you're going to jail. 1888 01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:17,560 Speaker 3: If it's simplar that you going to jail. 1889 01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:22,479 Speaker 6: Right exactly, Like that ain't working. You can't go out 1890 01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:23,960 Speaker 6: there and get non switch off the palm tree. 1891 01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:27,400 Speaker 3: Okay, but it was. 1892 01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:28,479 Speaker 2: It was just different. 1893 01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:33,400 Speaker 6: And I think also not being in North Carolina, you know, 1894 01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:35,679 Speaker 6: with my stepdaughter she was still living with her mom 1895 01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:39,439 Speaker 6: and we were here. Even that was hard, right, But 1896 01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:41,800 Speaker 6: we made it, of course work the best that we 1897 01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:44,599 Speaker 6: could because we want a lot of us with no money. 1898 01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:45,559 Speaker 3: For a chance. 1899 01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:52,520 Speaker 1: You're a basketball coach now, mhm, So obviously you like basketball. 1900 01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:53,719 Speaker 1: So who's your team. 1901 01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:55,360 Speaker 3: Roll with? 1902 01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:02,760 Speaker 5: So always say listen wherever he go, I'm going right, right, 1903 01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:04,599 Speaker 5: So I don't like the I don't like to claim 1904 01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:10,280 Speaker 5: teams right. You know, Lebron, My whole team thing went 1905 01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:14,720 Speaker 5: out literally when Mike retired, and then Lebron came in 1906 01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:17,000 Speaker 5: and he convinced me that he he was the man 1907 01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:20,000 Speaker 5: for the job. And then the new wave of how 1908 01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:23,719 Speaker 5: how players move and everything. Yeah, yeah, I rote Lebron 1909 01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:27,840 Speaker 5: and I'm wherever he at. That's where I'm at, a. 1910 01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:29,840 Speaker 1: Guy that's been in the loser an awful lot lately 1911 01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:32,240 Speaker 1: of John Moran. We saw the incidents that he had 1912 01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:35,360 Speaker 1: with the guns waving maronal Ig live. If he was 1913 01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:38,080 Speaker 1: your son, what type of advice would you give him? 1914 01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:41,280 Speaker 1: Because you know, and I tell people this, people don't 1915 01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:44,880 Speaker 1: understand this. When the child becomes the provider, it changed 1916 01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:50,400 Speaker 1: the dynamic in a relationship because you, as a father, 1917 01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:53,640 Speaker 1: you provide. But once he becomes a professional athlete or 1918 01:21:53,680 --> 01:21:56,400 Speaker 1: he becomes famous and then he takes over that role, 1919 01:21:56,720 --> 01:21:59,719 Speaker 1: the roles have not changed. It shouldn't because the dynamic 1920 01:21:59,880 --> 01:22:02,240 Speaker 1: is you're the father, he's the son. But when he 1921 01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:04,680 Speaker 1: starts paying for the house, then the cardinals, and he 1922 01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:08,080 Speaker 1: starts paying for everything that you have or the family has, 1923 01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:11,280 Speaker 1: you kind of treat him differently, even though you. 1924 01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:17,160 Speaker 5: Should see I think the mistake is in wherever you 1925 01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:20,400 Speaker 5: start treating him differently is where you've already messed up. 1926 01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:26,759 Speaker 5: You've already messed up. I don't think that it's okay 1927 01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:28,760 Speaker 5: some point the dynamic change with me and my wife 1928 01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:33,240 Speaker 5: and no hesitation. When I feel some kind of way, 1929 01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:37,120 Speaker 5: I'm gonna I'm gonna speak my mind. I'm a man, right, 1930 01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:41,519 Speaker 5: and I value this relationship and our future more so 1931 01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:44,439 Speaker 5: than I do anything that this money can do for us. 1932 01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:46,680 Speaker 3: So if he was my son, to. 1933 01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:52,120 Speaker 5: Answer your question, I would really have to sit down 1934 01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:53,680 Speaker 5: and have a heart to heart with my son and 1935 01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:55,840 Speaker 5: try to try to find out, man, what is your 1936 01:22:55,880 --> 01:23:02,960 Speaker 5: infatuation with guns? And bring him I just I really 1937 01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:05,920 Speaker 5: don't understand it, right, I need to and I need 1938 01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:08,719 Speaker 5: to get some kind of understanding of why you feel 1939 01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:13,040 Speaker 5: the need to one have one to two show it 1940 01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:17,439 Speaker 5: off to the world, right. Three What is it that 1941 01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:21,840 Speaker 5: you don't understand about this blessing right that. 1942 01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:24,560 Speaker 3: Been given to you? 1943 01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:27,320 Speaker 5: You you worth? I mean, I don't know, but I 1944 01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:30,600 Speaker 5: imagine he worth about two hundred million dollars, right, And 1945 01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:33,120 Speaker 5: I would try to probably send some light on him 1946 01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:38,000 Speaker 5: of what that really means, so he can so because 1947 01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:40,400 Speaker 5: it is too. I don't sometimes think that we I 1948 01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:42,920 Speaker 5: think we make an assumption about the youth and that 1949 01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:46,200 Speaker 5: they should understand it. I deal with kids, and I'm 1950 01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:47,160 Speaker 5: the over explainer. 1951 01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:48,040 Speaker 3: I'm the dude. 1952 01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:50,479 Speaker 5: I'm the dude that's like, nah, bump that I'm not 1953 01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:52,479 Speaker 5: doing what y'all a customer are doing and trying to 1954 01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:54,719 Speaker 5: explain and get it done in forty five seconds. Because 1955 01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:58,960 Speaker 5: Instagram and social media has now turned the world into 1956 01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:01,640 Speaker 5: ninety seconds, let's get it all done. Kids are now 1957 01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:08,040 Speaker 5: starting to think that's there, that's the expectation of attentiveness, right. 1958 01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:11,240 Speaker 5: I'm nah nah, I'm the dude that's like, no, we're 1959 01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:15,120 Speaker 5: gonna talk until I feel like you got it right. 1960 01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:18,360 Speaker 5: So he I don't think that he is of understanding 1961 01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:20,840 Speaker 5: and taking the type of pride as a young black man, 1962 01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:22,439 Speaker 5: strong emphasis on black. 1963 01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:23,280 Speaker 3: Man that you are. 1964 01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:29,840 Speaker 5: You are now responsible for generations. Okay, let's make it personal. 1965 01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:31,439 Speaker 5: If you don't, if it's not that big of a 1966 01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:33,559 Speaker 5: deal for you and the kids out in the world 1967 01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:36,040 Speaker 5: that you don't know personally, let's sit down and I 1968 01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:39,759 Speaker 5: want you to I want you to really think about 1969 01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:43,960 Speaker 5: the life that you won't your grandchild have yo now 1970 01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:47,240 Speaker 5: his child, and then think about how they gonna view 1971 01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:49,920 Speaker 5: you when they go to Like with my wife, I'm 1972 01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:51,680 Speaker 5: telling you, that's the most important thing to me. I 1973 01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:55,920 Speaker 5: love the fact that we can that. At ninety I 1974 01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:58,760 Speaker 5: can envision one of my great grandkids coming to me 1975 01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:02,200 Speaker 5: and saying, yeah, man, Grandma, right there, right there, right there. 1976 01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:04,360 Speaker 5: They can't lie about it, they can't change it. It's 1977 01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:05,080 Speaker 5: right here. 1978 01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:05,960 Speaker 3: We got it. 1979 01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:09,200 Speaker 5: And I think that's where I will start. It's trying 1980 01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:14,960 Speaker 5: to something there because there's a disconnect in the world 1981 01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:17,679 Speaker 5: of those type of things where it's like we ain't 1982 01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:21,240 Speaker 5: sending the message home. And that's where I would start 1983 01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:23,600 Speaker 5: as a dad, like, look, man, I'm proud of you, 1984 01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:25,680 Speaker 5: but you need to be proud of yourself. You need 1985 01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:28,599 Speaker 5: to you need to own some of this. You need 1986 01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:31,280 Speaker 5: to see what this really is. This is and if 1987 01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:33,920 Speaker 5: he ain't had a history lesson, he need to get one. 1988 01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:35,479 Speaker 5: That's where I will start. 1989 01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:37,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you out of here on this one. 1990 01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:45,160 Speaker 1: What's your keys to a success in business. 1991 01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:49,760 Speaker 2: And in manage oh, honesty. 1992 01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:51,960 Speaker 3: In both. 1993 01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:57,120 Speaker 6: Right, If I can trust you, we can build amount. 1994 01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:01,840 Speaker 6: Right If there's trust there. If we're honest, we can 1995 01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:04,400 Speaker 6: actually have a conversation. We do all the things that 1996 01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:06,160 Speaker 6: we need in truth. 1997 01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:07,919 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 1998 01:26:09,520 --> 01:26:12,360 Speaker 5: I would just like to add just promoting and encouraging 1999 01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:15,479 Speaker 5: your partner to be okay with change. I think sometimes 2000 01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:19,800 Speaker 5: we kind of how how you started out is how 2001 01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:23,240 Speaker 5: I always want you to be. So I think you should, 2002 01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:27,920 Speaker 5: you know, encourage change and welcome it and be okay 2003 01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:31,040 Speaker 5: with it with your partner growing and growing in any direction. 2004 01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:33,600 Speaker 5: And I feel threatened by them outgrowing you. 2005 01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:36,000 Speaker 2: And that's some business city. 2006 01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:39,040 Speaker 3: Could you, guys, because you grow every day. 2007 01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:41,880 Speaker 1: Tabitha is different today than she was yesterday, and she'll 2008 01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:44,719 Speaker 1: be different tomorrow than she was today, and likewise for chance, 2009 01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:46,840 Speaker 1: and so you have to be ready to adapt to 2010 01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:47,439 Speaker 1: that change. 2011 01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:52,240 Speaker 5: Absolutely, be okay with it, expect it on day one 2012 01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:53,880 Speaker 5: when you get married, when you say I do, start 2013 01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:57,040 Speaker 5: thinking about it like this next week. 2014 01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:01,559 Speaker 2: All that night. The honeymoon might be a little different 2015 01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:02,120 Speaker 2: than what you think. 2016 01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:05,200 Speaker 3: Guys. You guys seem like you guys, have you guys 2017 01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:07,519 Speaker 3: have so much fun? You seem like you have so 2018 01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:11,200 Speaker 3: much fun together. Do you guys have been together? 2019 01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:12,760 Speaker 2: You you can? 2020 01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:14,880 Speaker 1: I bet you can finish her center, and she can 2021 01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:17,240 Speaker 1: finish your center because you guys have been together that 2022 01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:18,880 Speaker 1: long that you know what each other's thinking. 2023 01:27:19,040 --> 01:27:22,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, most times. Yeah, and then sometimes she has five. 2024 01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:29,960 Speaker 2: To change. So I did bring you some some things. Okay, 2025 01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:33,920 Speaker 2: So it's a couple of things, and some of this 2026 01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:35,840 Speaker 2: might have to go to some people, okay that you 2027 01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:37,360 Speaker 2: you know, they're gonna say, she didn't give me that. 2028 01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:40,200 Speaker 2: Because this is my cookbook. In case you don't want that, 2029 01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:41,160 Speaker 2: get you. 2030 01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:43,240 Speaker 1: Cook book. 2031 01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:45,760 Speaker 2: It's a big cooking book. This is my first book, 2032 01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:47,920 Speaker 2: Beating the Soul. So that's all about my life and 2033 01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:50,600 Speaker 2: my journey. And then this is a working journal that 2034 01:27:50,680 --> 01:27:54,640 Speaker 2: accompanies that. Okay, all right, and so then so you 2035 01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:57,760 Speaker 2: can get in the kitchen. You can get in the 2036 01:27:57,880 --> 01:27:59,360 Speaker 2: kitchen with all the seasons and things. 2037 01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:01,960 Speaker 6: So these are my you went along with the original Sunshine, 2038 01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:05,200 Speaker 6: big good Garley, like sweet, like smoking, and these are 2039 01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:06,840 Speaker 6: all salt free, so I look out for. 2040 01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:11,519 Speaker 2: These are your saltabe lends. And then well, you got 2041 01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:11,960 Speaker 2: a name. 2042 01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:14,160 Speaker 1: For your hair No, you know, I just got you know, 2043 01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:16,120 Speaker 1: I'm old school. I mean I had the same haircutsin 2044 01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:16,640 Speaker 1: seventy two. 2045 01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:18,080 Speaker 2: You got a name them, you got a name. 2046 01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:19,599 Speaker 3: So I got a name, got a name of them. 2047 01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:21,960 Speaker 2: So this is Donald's recipe. Okay, they get you together 2048 01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:23,600 Speaker 2: a little, a little thanks, or you can get it 2049 01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:25,720 Speaker 2: because somebody over there. I feel like her energy is 2050 01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:27,640 Speaker 2: already you see you see that you. 2051 01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:29,920 Speaker 1: I think she came here to get She knew you 2052 01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:31,679 Speaker 1: was gonna break a goodie bag and she can't. 2053 01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:32,200 Speaker 3: Be taking this from me. 2054 01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:35,000 Speaker 6: But this is sweet potato pie, so Donald's best sweet. 2055 01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:37,120 Speaker 6: So I need a sweet potato pipe because I don't bake, 2056 01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:38,320 Speaker 6: but Donna does. 2057 01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:40,360 Speaker 2: So she says she made the desserts for your hair, 2058 01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:42,200 Speaker 2: but these are off of you. And then you know 2059 01:28:42,280 --> 01:28:44,320 Speaker 2: if you want the baggage, well, this is I collect 2060 01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:44,920 Speaker 2: from Target. 2061 01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:47,800 Speaker 1: Okay, well I need the bag to take this stuff home. 2062 01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:49,559 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm gonna take the hair products 2063 01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:52,759 Speaker 1: home ever. See that's now fifty dollars I'm charging. 2064 01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:55,360 Speaker 3: I just got it for free. But if fifty dollars for. 2065 01:28:55,400 --> 01:28:59,040 Speaker 2: You, oh that's right, the chance saisons. We gave you 2066 01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:00,200 Speaker 2: something that we probably Oh. 2067 01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:02,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, we got to call you. We got we got 2068 01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:05,160 Speaker 3: we definitely, we definitely got. We just definitely got a 2069 01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:10,080 Speaker 3: bok get you and uh you see my hoodie, I 2070 01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:12,639 Speaker 3: mean We're gonna get you one. What's what's what size? 2071 01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:12,920 Speaker 5: You are? 2072 01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:14,400 Speaker 2: Medium? 2073 01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:17,080 Speaker 3: Got you, We'll get that. We'll get that to you. 2074 01:29:17,400 --> 01:29:19,599 Speaker 2: Yes. Absolutely, this has been great. 2075 01:29:20,280 --> 01:29:24,400 Speaker 3: This has been unbelievable. This has been unbelievable. Thank you 2076 01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:25,960 Speaker 3: for taking absolutely ahead. 2077 01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:28,519 Speaker 1: Thank you for taking us time out of your day. 2078 01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:30,680 Speaker 1: I understand you're very busy. We've been trying to get 2079 01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:33,439 Speaker 1: this and we finally got it. We found Thank you 2080 01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:36,120 Speaker 1: so much, Thank you getting thank you for having. 2081 01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:39,719 Speaker 2: Appreciate absolutely I don't get the handshake. Shall we close 2082 01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:41,240 Speaker 2: it out? How I close out all my videos? 2083 01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:41,519 Speaker 3: Yes? 2084 01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:44,040 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, again, thank you so much for having me. 2085 01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:45,800 Speaker 6: And until the next time, honey, y'all going a bout 2086 01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:48,280 Speaker 6: y'all business and have the most amazing day. 2087 01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:50,400 Speaker 2: But even if you can't have a good one, don't 2088 01:29:50,439 --> 01:29:52,880 Speaker 2: you there go messing up. Nobody else is here. See 2089 01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:54,840 Speaker 2: y'all next time. Love y'all, Thank you. 2090 01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:55,840 Speaker 3: Thank you. 2091 01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:04,479 Speaker 4: My life grounding all my life, sacrifice, hustle, pay the price, 2092 01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:07,280 Speaker 4: and want to slice. Got to brow the dice that 2093 01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:09,800 Speaker 4: way all my life. I've been grinding all my life, 2094 01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:12,200 Speaker 4: all my life and grinning all. 2095 01:30:12,120 --> 01:30:16,519 Speaker 2: My life, sacrifice, hustle, pay the price in one slice. 2096 01:30:16,720 --> 01:30:17,800 Speaker 2: I got to brow the dice. 2097 01:30:18,080 --> 01:30:19,519 Speaker 4: WA all my life, I've. 2098 01:30:19,400 --> 01:30:20,479 Speaker 5: Been grinding all my life. 2099 01:30:21,479 --> 01:30:27,839 Speaker 3: Yeahm mhm