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Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Walcome to move the sticks? DJ?

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Speaker 2: Buck with you?

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Speaker 1: Buck? What's going on? Man? How you doing?

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Speaker 2: Not too much? DJ?

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Speaker 3: Just really excited this time of year because it's so unusual.

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Speaker 3: I have college football still going. Normally we're talking about

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Speaker 3: to have the Natty coming up on top of a

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Speaker 2: When you talk about the Division A round, doesn't get

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Speaker 2: much better than this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's uh, it's definitely world's converging at this

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Speaker 1: point in time, like trying to really get cranking on

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Speaker 1: the college kids. Now that that that bear jumped on

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Speaker 1: my back, Buck, I don't know what happened. I turned

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Speaker 1: There's a there's a lot of great football stuff going on.

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Speaker 1: I want to take today's episode and we'll we'll get

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Speaker 1: to some Newsy stuff and some coaching news and uh

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Speaker 1: potential hires. What the information we have as we're recording.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to that in a little bit. But I

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Speaker 1: That's I think that's a good premise to start from.

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Speaker 3: You got to have the franchise quarterback, no matter how

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Speaker 1: No doubt. And look, we spend a litle extra time

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Speaker 3: They put him back at safety and all of their

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Speaker 2: That allows them to do what they've always done really well.

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Speaker 1: And they've always always valued some things that the rest

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Speaker 1: I have never snow skied in my life life. I

437
00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,520
Speaker 1: don't know much about them, but I do know that

438
00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:06,399
Speaker 1: the ski lift never stops moving. And I feel like

439
00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:11,280
Speaker 1: Buffalo that they've retooled their roster buck but they haven't.

440
00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,360
Speaker 1: They haven't taken a step back. They haven't even paused.

441
00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,000
Speaker 1: They found a way to get better as They've changed

442
00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,679
Speaker 1: a lot of people on this roster, so I just

443
00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:24,000
Speaker 1: thought their ability to retool with being doing a great

444
00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,600
Speaker 1: job there of just kind of retooling this thing, keeping

445
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Speaker 1: the core the same, got your head coach, got your quarterback,

446
00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,560
Speaker 1: swapped out a lot of the other parts, and they're

447
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Speaker 1: good as they've ever been.

448
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Speaker 3: I think they embraced the blue collar didity of themselves

449
00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,159
Speaker 3: in the city. They are a blue collar team, they

450
00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,639
Speaker 3: have a blue collar coach. They understand who they are

451
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Speaker 3: and it's reflected in the type of players that they pick. Man,

452
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Speaker 3: they get a bunch of worker bees, DJ like, not

453
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Speaker 3: a lot of flash to them, like high energy, high

454
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Speaker 3: effort players. And to me, this stems from Sean McDermott

455
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Speaker 3: and Brandon Bean being on the same page. Sean McDermott

456
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Speaker 3: from The Wrestler Guy kind of appreciates the grittiness of

457
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Speaker 3: it all.

458
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Speaker 2: That's how that team is. And let's be honest, when

459
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Speaker 2: you put them around.

460
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Speaker 3: A next level quarterback, a superstar quarterback, he helps because

461
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,040
Speaker 3: would it would it work without Josh Allen as the centerpiece?

462
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Speaker 3: I don't know, but the skey lift works when you

463
00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,760
Speaker 3: got that mountain of a man at quarterback.

464
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a that's a fact, all right. But before

465
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Speaker 1: we take a break, Before we take a break, I'm

466
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Speaker 1: not going to ask you to answer this question, but

467
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:28,679
Speaker 1: I'm asking you to think about it. I'm asked if

468
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Speaker 1: you're listening or watching, to think about it. Jared Goff,

469
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Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels, Jalen Hurts, Matthew Stafford, Patrick Mahomes, c. J. Stroud,

470
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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen. You got to pick in the

471
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Speaker 1: top five in this draft class, this current draft class.

472
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Speaker 1: Do you think there's one of those dudes is ready

473
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Speaker 1: to go to war with those eight dudes. I'm not

474
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Speaker 1: gonna ask you. I'm not there. You go, you answered it.

475
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Speaker 1: I want gonna put you on the spot. But it

476
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Speaker 1: frames it, doesn't It frame it?

477
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Speaker 3: And so and so here's where where like I don't

478
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 3: say I get mad, but I think people always have

479
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,160
Speaker 3: to understand, like there's an ideal in a standard that's

480
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:11,200
Speaker 3: out there and that you're always grading to that standard.

481
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Speaker 3: And it's not a year to year standard where we

482
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Speaker 3: drop say, well, I'm gonna put a first round grade.

483
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Speaker 2: On them this year.

484
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 3: No, you're always working towards that standard and working for teams.

485
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Speaker 2: DJ.

486
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Speaker 3: If you don't build your team, particularly in the AFC,

487
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Speaker 3: to deal with those quarterbacks. You don't have a chance

488
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Speaker 3: because those are the guys that you're going to have

489
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Speaker 3: to see to eventually get to the championship round, and

490
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Speaker 3: so you make sure you better make sure that your

491
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Speaker 3: quarterback can live up to that.

492
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Speaker 1: Here's the billion dollar question for teams picking in the

493
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Speaker 1: top five this year. You have to have an honest

494
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Speaker 1: and open discussion about the quarterback you're gonna take in

495
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Speaker 1: the top five. Is he close to these eight quarterbacks

496
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Speaker 1: that are still playing in the playoffs or is he

497
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 1: closer to the quarterbacks that are going to be available

498
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Speaker 1: to you in the second, third, and fourth round of

499
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Speaker 1: this draft. That's going to inform you to say, because

500
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Speaker 1: if he's closer to those those guys you can get

501
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 1: later in the draft, then Abdul Carter Hunter, all those dudes,

502
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,120
Speaker 1: come on down. I'm gonna take a big time dude,

503
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 1: and we're gonna build up the rest of the team,

504
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 1: and we'll take a flyer on one of these guys

505
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,360
Speaker 1: in you know, second, third, fourth round.

506
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Speaker 3: Well, I mean I look and look, if you're gonna

507
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,640
Speaker 3: do that, you do it. I think it's not even

508
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,400
Speaker 3: that DJ. I think it comes down to the conversation

509
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,119
Speaker 3: that we would typically have in draft rooms. Okay, to

510
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,360
Speaker 3: throw those guys out that are remaining in the tournament.

511
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 3: Lets you Sam Donald, all right, Sam Donald versus whoever

512
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 3: you want to put in this class. That's the conversation

513
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 3: that you have to have. Because Sam Donald be the

514
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 3: top free agent on the market. The guys that we're drafting,

515
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,439
Speaker 3: are they better talents than Sam Donald? Because if they're not,

516
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,159
Speaker 3: that it tells you everything that you need to know

517
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 3: about where you picked them and how you select them.

518
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Speaker 1: Yep. And you also if you're a team that gets

519
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 1: Sam Donald and you're one of those teams picking up there,

520
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 1: Now I've got the quarterback and now I've got the

521
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Speaker 1: freedom in the luxury. I don't think there's gonna be

522
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Speaker 1: a market trade these picks. I don't think you're going

523
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 1: to be able to But I'll tell you what you

524
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 1: can do. Abdell Carter is a bad man. Travis Hunter

525
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 1: is a bad man. Like you can get a impact player.

526
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Speaker 2: You can't go wrong drafting good players.

527
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. So anyways, that's food for thought. Let's take a break,

528
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Speaker 1: we come back. We will, We'll get into a little

529
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Speaker 1: hot or Not. Right after this, it's time for Hot

530
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Speaker 1: or Not, brought to you by with Sabby Hot Cloud

531
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Speaker 1: Storage buck. We will get to what we're thinking about

532
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,880
Speaker 1: these games here in a minute, but in terms of hot,

533
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: it's hot off the press, just with some of the

534
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 1: changes we've seen here. Coaching hires, Mike Rabel gets hired,

535
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 1: the Cowboys interviewing a lot of people. Dion's Dion's out

536
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 1: there looming out there. They've they're going to bring in

537
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,120
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore to talk to him. Robert Salah has been

538
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: making the rounds. We've got the Bears, with Mike McCarthy

539
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 1: being a name connected to them. You know what, I'm

540
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 1: going through these lists of candidates, and if I was

541
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Speaker 1: going to give you, if you were going to say

542
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,199
Speaker 1: one guy you guarantee is gonna get a job in

543
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 1: this cycle? Is there one player you guarantee is gonna

544
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: get a job, Because I've got mine, I'm gonna write

545
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 1: it down. I wonder, I just wonder if we're on

546
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 1: the same page, because a lot of times we kind

547
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 1: of see this the same.

548
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 3: So wait a minute, So you so you asked me

549
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 3: to guarantee which coach is gonna get hired? Discycle this coach.

550
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,719
Speaker 1: If if I was going to say, when all these

551
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 1: seats get filled, that this would be your pick of

552
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 1: one that you feel the most confident is going to

553
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: get one of these jobs.

554
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 2: Well, do we keep Ben Johnson on the table or

555
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 2: do we take Ben Johnson?

556
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 1: You can no, no, you can take him off the table.

557
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 1: But I don't know for sure that he's gonna I mean,

558
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 1: I'm not. I think Vegas is a legit thing with him.

559
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 1: I think they can just throw him so much, you know, money,

560
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 1: and maybe it's power control. I don't know, but I

561
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,360
Speaker 1: think Vegas is a legit option there. I'm sure Chicago,

562
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: you know, would hire him and heart people. I just

563
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 1: still get the vibe. I don't know that he's found

564
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 1: the perfect spot and there's still a chance he could

565
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 1: stay where he is, So let's just take him.

566
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Speaker 3: Okay, I would say, because I don't think there's any

567
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,439
Speaker 3: chance that he's coming back to Detroit as.

568
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 2: A court ready to go.

569
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Speaker 3: Who else is off the board, Because once you take

570
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 3: Rabel off the board, and once you take Ben Johnson

571
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,479
Speaker 3: now becomes a little murky. I'm gonna say, Aaron Glenn

572
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 3: gets a job, and the reason Aaron Glenn.

573
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 2: Oh, look at you.

574
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 3: The reason the same page man, Well, the reason why.

575
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 3: There are a couple of things that Aaron Glenn has

576
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Speaker 3: working in his favor. I think he has tentacles on

577
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 3: three teams that are looking for coaches, the Jets, the Jacks,

578
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 3: the Saints, so there's a level of knowledge of who

579
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 3: the person is coming in the building.

580
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Speaker 2: Two.

581
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Speaker 3: I don't know if you've seen the thing, but he

582
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 3: was on the pivot talking about all the different things

583
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 3: that he's done dj He went from being a scouting

584
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 3: assistant to being a coaching assistant to doing all the

585
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 3: other things. So he unders all of the processes, so

586
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 3: he doesn't come in as someone who's entitled, who skipped

587
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,959
Speaker 3: the process jump the line to get where he is.

588
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 3: And I'll say this, I've seen Aaron Glenn become a

589
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 3: better coach over the last few years as a coordinator.

590
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,199
Speaker 3: And even though there's no direct correlation between being a

591
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 3: good coordinator and a head coach, the growth that he

592
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 3: has made into three or four years that he's been

593
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 3: in that role suggested me that he has the right

594
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 3: mindset to be a good coach. Good coaches are always

595
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,199
Speaker 3: looking for the advantage to get better Aaron Glenn has

596
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 3: showed as a defensive coordinator, he is willing to adapt

597
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 3: a just grow as a coach. That gives me a

598
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 3: reason to believe that he would do the same thing

599
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 3: as a head coach.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I just think he has instant credibility. I think

601
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 1: he's got a presence every time I've seen him speaking.

602
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 1: I don't know him. I know you know him better

603
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: than I do, but I just I think he's I

604
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: think he's got it and it's sometimes it's hard to

605
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 1: describe it. You just know it when you see it.

606
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: And I know who he's been around, I know what

607
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 1: fills tree.

608
00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

609
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. Philosophically, that's a that's a toughness, details, that's a

610
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 1: that's a imposure. Will like all those things he believes

611
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: and I believe in so And I just think with

612
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: his background as a player, even buck, this is a

613
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: this is a I don't know this. This kind of

614
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: stuff gets you in trouble when you say this, just

615
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 1: be careful. But just the way that he presents and

616
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: takes care of himself says something to me. And you

617
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: know what that says to me is that ye I know,

618
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 1: I know we're not I mean I guess it's that's

619
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 1: frowned upon. But I'm telling you that's in the back

620
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 1: of your head when you see him, Like this guy's

621
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 1: got his ducks in a row. He takes care of himself.

622
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, he takes hearing himself the way you see him interact,

623
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,959
Speaker 3: the way that he presents, and you know a lot

624
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 3: of times and I know we we kind of reached

625
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 3: a point where it's really hard to have these frank

626
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 3: conversations that we used to have in scouting rooms. But

627
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 3: DJ we used to talk about the way that people

628
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 3: would present and how you had to have a presidential

629
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 3: feel about the person in the front room. There had

630
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 3: to be a regalness about how they did it, like

631
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 3: it's it's about having your in a row and I's

632
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 3: dot at Tea's cross.

633
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 2: So when you say and you.

634
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 3: Carry the message not only to the team, but can

635
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 3: you carry the message when you stand in front of

636
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 3: the podium and clearly articulate what it is that we're expecting,

637
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 3: the vision and all of those things. And so when

638
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 3: you take that and the player thing, like I always

639
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 3: can respect because Aaron and I were in the same

640
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 3: draft class. We're buddies and those things, but to watch

641
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 3: him grow. I think the level of humility that he's

642
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 3: shown on his coaching journey leads me to believe that

643
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 3: that will also come out as a head coach. It's

644
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 3: one thing to be the problem solver, but it's another

645
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 3: thing to walk in like you to know it all.

646
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 3: I think he has enough of that confidence where you

647
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 3: buy into him, but he has enough humility to go

648
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 3: and get the answers for what he doesn't know.

649
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think hungry, humble, and smart. Right, we always

650
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: come back to that. He seems like he checks all

651
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: three of those boxes. And look, before anybody says something,

652
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: I know there's been fit coaches who've been failures, and

653
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Speaker 1: there've been heavy coach, the coaches in the Hall of Fame,

654
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Speaker 1: short coaches, tall coaches. I'm just saying, if you're a

655
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Speaker 1: human being that that maybe it's even subconsciously, but it

656
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Speaker 1: stands out.

657
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Speaker 3: There is something to the saying how you do anything

658
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 3: is how you do everything. And so what you're looking

659
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 3: for are those who have habits and if they have

660
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Speaker 3: the if they have championship habits in their personal life,

661
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Speaker 3: they're likely to have championship habits in their professional life.

662
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So there you go. That's that's always getting too We'll

664
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Speaker 1: see what happens some of these other openings and when

665
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Speaker 1: they get filled, will break them down here. So you know, look,

666
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: we're just getting started here with this offseason. Anything else

667
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Speaker 1: you want to add on these coaches, buck.

668
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Speaker 2: Well, No, like you finished the thing with a hot

669
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Speaker 2: and eye.

670
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Speaker 3: I do want to ask you about your take on

671
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Speaker 3: Mike Rabel stepping in in New England because I think

672
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Speaker 3: it's I think it's fascinating that they didn't like the

673
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 3: previous program under Bill Belichick to only have to come

674
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Speaker 3: back to the program that basically Bill Belichick runs with

675
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Speaker 3: a little spin on it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, that's why said that's when we talked about

677
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: this previously before he got hired. It reminded me of

678
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Speaker 1: the of your tar heels.

679
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 3: Yes, bring will, Yeah, we can go back like it's

680
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 3: time to come home.

681
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Speaker 2: It is. It is funny how that is. But yeah,

682
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 2: there's a certain way that and I believe this.

683
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 3: There's a certain way that all organizations have to conduct

684
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 3: their business for them to win.

685
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 2: There's a blueprint for everybody. You have to be able

686
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Speaker 2: to stick to the blueprint.

687
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he is, Uh, nobody wonders about Mike Brabel

688
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: who he is. I did see RC's going over there

689
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: ran counting.

690
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I did. I didn't see. I didn't see the role,

691
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 2: and I'm curious to see.

692
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Speaker 1: Like, I mean, him and Elliott, like we're all of

693
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: that same, you know, kind of generation. So I know

694
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: him and Elliot have known it, and and and Zoe Alonso.

695
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: Everybody's known so I'm sure our C has a good

696
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: relationship with Sooe as well. So I think some people

697
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: look at that and thought, oh gosh, how is this

698
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: going to work? Rabel's bringing in his own personnel. Guy,

699
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, everybody, this is a small league, man. Everybody

700
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: knows everybody.

701
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Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody knows everybody.

702
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 3: And ultimately, man like, there's a level of collaboration that

703
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 3: you want to have. And I'll this, man, I think

704
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 3: it's hard for a collection of smart people to screw

705
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 3: things up. Hopefully, what you're doing is you're bringing in

706
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Speaker 3: another smart person to the room that allows you to

707
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 3: have high level discussions and even if there's some disagreement,

708
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Speaker 3: what it does is it fosters a thorough vetting of

709
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Speaker 3: whatever the process is before you make decisions.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt. Well there you go. That was This

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Speaker 1: whatsaby dot com. All right, buck, let's go through these

715
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Speaker 1: games here. Let's start first of all, Houston and Kansas City.

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Speaker 1: So far, one of the takeaways for me in this

717
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: playoffs has been rust hadn't really been an issue these

718
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: teams at sat guys or that rested. I know they

719
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: didn't have the buys, but some teams basically took a

720
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Speaker 1: buye the last week of the season. Didn't seem to

721
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Speaker 1: bother them. Now the Chiefs, that is a prolonged weight

722
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 1: here for them to get ready for this one. But

723
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Speaker 1: Houston going in there, how do you see it? Do

724
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Speaker 1: you see them having a shot at this thing? And

725
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Speaker 1: what do you expect with the Chiefs with all this rest?

726
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Speaker 3: They absolutely have a shot. They have a shot because

727
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 3: they're good enough to qualify to get to this round.

728
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Speaker 3: They have a shot because they have enough talent on

729
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 3: offense and defense to do it. I think their path

730
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 3: the victory is a slim one. They have to be

731
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Speaker 3: able to control the game. I think Joe Mixon is

732
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 3: the big part of that. They need to be able

733
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Speaker 3: to run the football and limit the opportunities that Kansas

734
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Speaker 3: City has. And then defensively, they have to find a

735
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Speaker 3: way to get Patrick Mahomes on the ground. There's one

736
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 3: thing to say pass rush, it's another thing to get

737
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 3: him on the ground because he's so slippery. In the end, though,

738
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Speaker 3: to me, this is all about Kansas City and Kansas

739
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Speaker 3: City being able to do what they typically do. This

740
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 3: is not the explosive version of the Kansas City Chiefs,

741
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Speaker 3: but this is a team that knows how to win

742
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Speaker 3: at Mahomes twelve and two at home during the playoffs.

743
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Speaker 3: Andy Reid during a regular season twenty one and four

744
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Speaker 3: coming off of buy he has a formula in a

745
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Speaker 3: system to allow his player to play really well when

746
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Speaker 3: they've had a little time, and Travis Kelcey said this,

747
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Speaker 3: and this to me is a deciding factor. Travis kelce said,

748
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Speaker 3: great players have to step it up in the playoffs.

749
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Speaker 3: These guys are well aware of what is needed to

750
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Speaker 3: be a championship team. You don't win three and five

751
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 3: years and go to a fourth without knowing it. To me,

752
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 3: that's the difference. I love what the Texans have done

753
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 3: but Kansas City knows what they're doing when they get

754
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 3: to this point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I look for the Texans, it's pretty simple to

756
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Speaker 1: me for them to have a chance in this game,

757
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: two things need to happen. They need to take the

758
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 1: football away, which they play aggressive man coverage, and that

759
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 1: can with their pass rush. They've been able to generate

760
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Speaker 1: some turnovers and we saw a boatload of them last

761
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Speaker 1: week against the Chargers, So can their defense create turnovers?

762
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Speaker 1: Number one? At number two, you to figure out a

763
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: way to block Chris Jones because there's some matchups that

764
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: are pretty favorable for Chris Jones along that front when

765
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 1: offensive line that's had some issues. So we always use this,

766
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Speaker 1: uh you know this kind of thought or analogy. There

767
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: is hey, four to one man, you better have four

768
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,959
Speaker 1: hands on his chest, so you you know, you better

769
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: have him doubled at all times and take your chances

770
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: with everybody else. But don't let don't get hit with

771
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Speaker 1: the right hand man. Don't let Christian ferry game.

772
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Speaker 3: I mean, we see it so much. Don't get here

773
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Speaker 3: with the right hand. At least have the garter. Make

774
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 3: them throw.

775
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Speaker 2: Another punch, but don't let him knock you out with

776
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Speaker 2: the right hand that you know and.

777
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,479
Speaker 1: Is gonna come yeah, one hundred percent. All right, let's

778
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Speaker 1: get to Commander's Lions the second game on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: What you're looking for, Uh, this is interesting. I want

780
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 2: to know how the Lions perform being the favorite.

781
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 3: They have been the football world's darling because they're kind

782
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:41,919
Speaker 3: of like the little train they could, the little engine

783
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 3: that could, like they've they made it, they made it.

784
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Speaker 2: To the top and those things.

785
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 3: When you're the number one seed, it's a different level

786
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,879
Speaker 3: of pressure because the expectations that the lines are gonna

787
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 3: represent the NFC in the Super Bowl. How do they

788
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 3: handle the pressure of that moment? And I think Washington

789
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 3: is uniquely qualified to be able to knock them off one.

790
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 3: They have a superstar quarterback too. They have a number

791
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 3: of defenders that they have championship level experience and if

792
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 3: the game is tight, they understand what is required. I

793
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 3: need to see if the Lions can be as free

794
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 3: willing as they have been throughout the regular season in

795
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 3: the post game with huge consequences if it doesn't go

796
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 3: the right way. Do they become more conservative or do

797
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 3: they continue to put their foot on the gas, because

798
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 3: that is the way that they've gotten to this point.

799
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Speaker 1: I was just looking it up. I was curious about

800
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Speaker 1: it that I believe that Washington's only lost one game

801
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: indoors this year, and I was thinking about just from

802
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 1: Jade Daniels standpoint of how fast he is in having

803
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 1: a perfect conditions, perfect track could benefit him. So I'm

804
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: keeping an eye on that. I think Jade Daniels has

805
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: to he might have to run for one hundred in

806
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 1: this because I look, Detroit's gonna score. So you're gonna

807
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: have to. You're gonna have to every weapon you got

808
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: in this thing.

809
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to go for it.

810
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 3: And dan Quinn like recognized the moment last week when

811
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 3: he was more fourth down because he knew that they

812
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 3: wouldn't be able to consistently stop the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

813
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 3: They worked out in their favor. The Lion's team that

814
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 3: you know, is high powered. You have to be willing

815
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 3: to go for it. But as we said, playing with

816
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 3: house money, the freedom that the commanders have in this game, man,

817
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 3: it's a lot different when you can take your shot

818
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 3: and you don't feel the weight of responsibility to have

819
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 3: to win that falls on the shoulders of the Lions,

820
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 3: and so That's why the conservativeness, the conservative nature of

821
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 3: the play calls on both sides. That's what I'm looking

822
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 3: to see. Do the Lions change their blueprint now they're

823
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 3: win the stuff that matters?

824
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 1: Yeah? And also human nature, And we talked about Aaron

825
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 1: Glenn earlier in the show. But when you've got both

826
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Speaker 1: coordinators who've got a lot of opportunities and a lot

827
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Speaker 1: of attention.

828
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Speaker 2: Some distractions. There's some distractions. I don't care what anyone says.

829
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Speaker 2: It's hard to stay locked in on that.

830
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 3: It's hard not to think about the next opportunity, even

831
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 3: though you've worked so hard to get here.

832
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 2: It's human nature. Can you stay locked in and focused.

833
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 3: And compartmentalize what is going on to be able to

834
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Speaker 3: give you the lines the best version of yourself?

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Speaker 1: The Rams Eagles, buck.

836
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Speaker 2: Man, you know, and.

837
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 3: Look DJ, I know the Eagles were okay and they

838
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 3: may have wanted the Rams to come, but I'm gonna

839
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 3: say this man in the playoffs, quarterback play is everything.

840
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 2: And the one.

841
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 3: Quarterback that I don't know if you necessarily want to

842
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,399
Speaker 3: face is Matthew Staff going all the way back to

843
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 3: his time in Detroit. This dude has a knack for

844
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 3: delivering and the biggest moments. You look at his history,

845
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 3: game winning drives, fourth quarter comebacks. He's there. This is

846
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 3: a major stage, and let's be honest, like some of

847
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 3: the mojio and energy that they played with against the

848
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 3: Vikings that to carry on.

849
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 2: They're not as talented as the Eagles. But if the Eagles.

850
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 3: Mess around and allow the Rams to hang around, the

851
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 3: Rams can do it. And I say that full well

852
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 3: knowing that the Eagles smacked them around the first time

853
00:38:59,160 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 3: they faced this.

854
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 2: All this season.

855
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking at the Rams super Bowl year. They

856
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: were Arizona at home, indoors at Tampa, not gonna deal

857
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: with much of their weatherwise at home against San Francisco,

858
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: and a Super Bowl at home against Cincinnati. It's just

859
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,280
Speaker 1: a different environment. When you're going to Philadelphia, it's gonna

860
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: be but I think it's gonna be such that's a

861
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: little different. It's a little different. And I just think

862
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 1: with Sa Kwan and that offensive line that I mean,

863
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: we saw it. They squared off earlier and the Eagles

864
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: ran the ball down their throats.

865
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 2: Well, and they're going to look to do it again.

866
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 2: Let's get distracted.

867
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Speaker 3: If they commit to running the ball and they play

868
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 3: the physical brand of football that they have started to

869
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 3: embrace and play. Yeah, it's gonna be a hard one

870
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 3: for the Rams. Is to me, the thing that holds

871
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 3: the Eagles back would only be the emotional maturity.

872
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 2: The mature enough to take your business. That's the big thing.

873
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 3: Like, can they worry about just winning the game and

874
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 3: not about a my numbers, my touches in those things.

875
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 2: If they do that, then then they should be able

876
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 2: to win.

877
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be a interesting game, but it's not gonna

878
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 1: be as fun to watch as this next one. The

879
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,720
Speaker 1: last one is the heavyweight matchup. It is the Bills

880
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 1: and the Ravens. And I can't think of a playoff

881
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: game that wasn't even a conference championship game that I've

882
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: looked forward to more than this one.

883
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 2: Man, it is such a great game.

884
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna say this, DJ goes all the way

885
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 3: back to twenty eighteen in the draft because I feel

886
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 3: like both of those guys doing the draft process didn't

887
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 3: get their due in terms of what they could be.

888
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 3: We didn't have the imagination in the league to be

889
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 3: able to really appreciate what they were because they were

890
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,399
Speaker 3: both in a way non traditional quarterbacks, Lamar Jackson more

891
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 3: so than Josh Allen, but Josh Allen didn't have the

892
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 3: completion rate that you normally desire in a top pick.

893
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 3: Josh Allen ran around, but he didn't run around to

894
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 3: the level that Lamar Jackson was running around. And to

895
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 3: see them now become top five quarterbacks in this league

896
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,919
Speaker 3: where it's unquestioned that they're elite, to see them square off,

897
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 3: to me is fascinating. On the Baltimore side, I just

898
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 3: want to see if the Ravens are going to be

899
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,760
Speaker 3: the Ravens. I felt like last year in the AFC

900
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 3: Championship game they got away from the blueprint that really

901
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 3: worked for them. But if they play to their strengths

902
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 3: and just do what they've done, run the football, do

903
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 3: some of that stuff, and don't get distracted by trying

904
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 3: to prove to people they can play a different style,

905
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 3: they're better than the Buffalo Bills. Josh Allen is a

906
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 3: superhero and we have seen him put this offense in

907
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 3: this team on the back and then these gotta have

908
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 3: it moments that we talked about, third down, red zone,

909
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 3: two minute in the half, he is going to make

910
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 3: a play with his legs if he has to, can

911
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 3: the Baltimore Ravens get him down? Because he is a

912
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 3: more athletic version of the Ben Roethlisberger that they used

913
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 3: to face, and you would talk about tackling and being

914
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 3: able to get him. Now the key is can they

915
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 3: get number seventeen on the ground.

916
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, it's gonna be such a fun game. Man.

917
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: I don't know where that game's going to go. If

918
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: you told me that either one of those teams blew

919
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: the other team out, I don't know that. I'd be

920
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 1: shocked because they're both capable. If you told me this

921
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: was an overtime thriller, I could see that happen. It

922
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: could be a high scoring game. It could be a

923
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: low score. I don't know. I don't know what's going

924
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,720
Speaker 1: to happen in this So that's why it's so intriguing

925
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: to me.

926
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 2: Man.

927
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: But this there might be the two most fun quarterbacks

928
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: to watch in the NFL, and they're going to be

929
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: going at it throwing Haymaker. It's gonna be fun.

930
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 2: DJ.

931
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 3: There'll only be three quarterbacks in NFL history that have

932
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 3: scored forty plus touchdowns, rush for more than five hundred yards,

933
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 3: and had fewer than seven interceptions Josh Allen and Lamar

934
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 3: Jackson twice Josh Allen Lamar Jackson this year and then

935
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson back.

936
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 2: In twenty nineteen. Like, think about that.

937
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 3: That is ridiculous what they've been able to do in

938
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 3: the National Football League. These dudes are specially their unicorns,

939
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 3: and I am just glad that we will have an opportunity.

940
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 2: We won't fully give either one of those guys their flowers,

941
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 2: but we'll.

942
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 3: Have an opportunity to see what could be when you

943
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,399
Speaker 3: take a chance on guys to have elite traits even

944
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 3: though their games.

945
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 2: May be a little unorthodox.

946
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, think about the three of the four teams that

947
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: are remaining in the AFC or Andy Reid, you know,

948
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: Andy Reid and two of his disciples and Harbara McDermott

949
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 1: going at it in this game. So there's familiarity of

950
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 1: how they want to play, who they are as people,

951
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: what they want to do. These guys have had longevity

952
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 1: in their stops. So it's gonna be a great game

953
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: and I'm looking forward to I'm going to hitch you

954
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: up for a winner on these buck I've already posted

955
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: mine on there. I ended up with I.

956
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 2: Ended up with Chiefs.

957
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 1: I ended up with Chiefs, Lions, Eagles, Bills. So I

958
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 1: ended up going home team, straight down, straight down the line.

959
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 3: The only change that we have is I had the

960
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 3: Ravens over the Buffalo Bills. Everything it says to me,

961
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,919
Speaker 3: DJ the Ravens over the Bills. It literally comes down

962
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 3: to if the Ravens play, if they play to their identity,

963
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 3: they have more talent, and so because they have more talent,

964
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 3: they had the opportunity to score more. This might be

965
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 3: the game, in my mind where Buffalo feels the lack

966
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 3: of an elite playmaker on the perimeter. That's the only

967
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 3: reason why I would give the Ravens not I don't

968
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 3: think it's gonna be the blowout that we saw earlier.

969
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 2: This is gonna be a fourth quarter fair and one

970
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 2: of those quarterbacks they have the big play to win it.

971
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, it's just it's hard to believe that this

972
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: league allowed Derrick Henry to team up with Lamar Jackson,

973
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 1: and they.

974
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 2: Said, is that.

975
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 3: I mean, like, of all the things, and like, let's

976
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 3: just say this, the Ravens do not mind taking I

977
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 3: know the Titans aren't the ribble that they once were,

978
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,280
Speaker 3: but they sure don't mind stealing people from de ryals

979
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 3: don't like they sure don't.

980
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're gonna let them go to say hey,

981
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 2: we'll we'll take them.

982
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: I just I just I just think about the Kansas

983
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 1: City Chiefs and some of the wars they've had in

984
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: the playoffs, you know, and in games against Derrick Henry

985
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: and the Titans, and they've had wars against the Ravens

986
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: and Lamar Jackson, and both of those teams struggle to

987
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: take down the Chiefs, and it's almost like, hey, let's

988
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: team up, man, let's let's join up. Let's join forces

989
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: and see if together we can't topple this. Not in

990
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 1: Kansas City, So they got to get through Buffalo first, though.

991
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 2: Man, it's gonna be a tough one. It's gonna be tough,

992
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 2: but it's gonna be a great one to see. And

993
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 2: I can't wait for us to talk about it when

994
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 2: we come back.

995
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: Yep, looking forward to it. All right, This is a

996
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 1: beefy episode. Hope you guys enjoyed it. It really is

997
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 1: the best time of the year. Cannot wait for these ballgames.

998
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: We will have all the reaction that'll be coming your

999
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 1: way next week. As we continue to break down what's

1000
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: happening in the coaching side of things as well and

1001
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: start dipping our toe in the draft waters as well.

1002
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: So hope you guys enjoyed this one. We'll see you

1003
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: next time right here on, move the sticks.