WEBVTT - Checking In w/ BJ the Chicago Kid

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Checking In with Michelle Williams, a production of

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<v Speaker 1>iHeartRadio and The Black Effect.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so I.

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<v Speaker 1>Love when I get to speak to somebody that was

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<v Speaker 1>from home.

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<v Speaker 2>Well they're from Chicago, I'm from Rockbert.

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<v Speaker 1>But this soul is absolutely incredible, very talented, very gifted.

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<v Speaker 1>I just love his voice. I love the tone of

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<v Speaker 1>his voice. I love the vocal choices he makes. I

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<v Speaker 1>love his music. And we've known each other for a

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<v Speaker 1>very very long time, probably twenty plus years, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really excited to have bj the Chicago kid. He's checking in, y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there are many times I get to have

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<v Speaker 1>folks on my podcast where we've actually talked on the phone.

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<v Speaker 2>We've been at each other's presence.

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<v Speaker 1>We have enjoyed great Chicago times together. We have the

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<v Speaker 1>same mutual friends and family. Y'all probably already recognized who

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<v Speaker 1>he is just by his distinct speaking voice, and I

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<v Speaker 1>am excited to have a Grammy nominated singer songwriter. We've

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<v Speaker 1>got to hear his voice some of everywhere. But I

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<v Speaker 1>was so excited when he finally came out with solo music.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you've heard it with Mary J. Blaine, You've heard

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<v Speaker 1>it with Usher, You've heard it with Kendrick Lamar, Kellie

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<v Speaker 1>Chance the Rapper, and yes, Coco Jones is his newest collab.

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<v Speaker 2>Y'all, let's give it up.

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<v Speaker 1>BJ the Chicago Kid. One of the greatest vocalists on

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<v Speaker 1>our planet.

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<v Speaker 2>He's checking you.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you here, I got you on the side of things.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, how have you been?

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<v Speaker 3>Amazing? Amazing, amazing, amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Lord, I love to see it.

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<v Speaker 4>You look good, Thank you, thank you. I just wrapped

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<v Speaker 4>up a work. I'm tired, but I'm good.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, are you in La or where you at

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<v Speaker 2>right now?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I'm in La Okay, all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So y'all he really is the Chicago kid, born

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<v Speaker 1>and raised in Chicago, got his start singing in Chicago

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<v Speaker 1>in the church. Don't get into a stee He comes

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<v Speaker 1>from a very amazing musical family.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Thank you, Aaron Sledge.

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<v Speaker 3>Y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>Just it's something in y'all, something right here in y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>Y'all can't see my girl, but it's something right here

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<v Speaker 2>between the chin, before you get down to us, before

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<v Speaker 2>you get to the stern them. Something resides on the

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<v Speaker 2>inside there.

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<v Speaker 3>I take that. I take that. I take that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, shout out to my brothers Aaron and Scooter. Man,

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<v Speaker 4>that's pretty much where I get it from. Anything they

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<v Speaker 4>touched growing up that was interesting. I touched it to

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<v Speaker 4>Are you the baby?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you the baby?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yeah, boy, yeah yeah yeah yeah. I'm the youngest.

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<v Speaker 2>I love y'all in. Scooter, by the way, is awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>As far as percussion, is he into production now or

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<v Speaker 1>has he?

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<v Speaker 3>He's always been into it?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>He?

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<v Speaker 4>Scooter does everything. Scooter sing to scooterul whistle like I sing?

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<v Speaker 5>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, So y'all could whistle

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<v Speaker 2>Rodney so good, y'all. This is whole whistling thing, y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't whistle.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have not like they can me either. They

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<v Speaker 3>too cold. They like next level, top top tier. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>they need mad control.

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<v Speaker 2>It's mad control.

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<v Speaker 1>They need to have like a whistle, cortet or something,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, something.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they sick with it, you know. Yeah. Scooter is

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<v Speaker 3>into everything. But I the singing bug, I kind of

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<v Speaker 3>never left alone out of.

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<v Speaker 4>All the things that they touched before me just as

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<v Speaker 4>a kid, playing drums was the first love.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, singing never stopped to me.

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<v Speaker 4>Playing drums for me was almost like basketball as a kid.

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<v Speaker 4>When you played basketball in the backyard, you like, I

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<v Speaker 4>can make it to the NBA.

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<v Speaker 3>Come over, you get out there. You can see all

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<v Speaker 3>this competition.

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<v Speaker 4>You're like, man, I don't even think I want to play.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't got the marble mentality in this. I got

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<v Speaker 4>the marble mentality in this. So this is what this

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<v Speaker 4>is where my marble mentality is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, music, the confidence you know it is. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, some of the best come out of the Midwest.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of your vocalists are musicians and athletes come out

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<v Speaker 1>of the Midwest.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think it's something in the water.

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<v Speaker 4>I do, because a lot of musicians can sing sing, sing, sing,

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<v Speaker 4>sing for real, for real.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't catch that a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>Some musicians just amazing that that craft and spreading that

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<v Speaker 4>craft maybe to another instrument. But in the Midwest you

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<v Speaker 4>mess around and catch a drummer that can like s

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<v Speaker 4>a g like saying saying. So I think it is

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<v Speaker 4>something in the water. Honestly, you know to a certain

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<v Speaker 4>level and to a certain degree that the competitiveness makes

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<v Speaker 4>us better, the healthiness of the competitiveness. Back back home,

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<v Speaker 4>shedding and practicing runs all the stuff that youb just

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<v Speaker 4>used to do back in the day. Whatever the case may,

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<v Speaker 4>I've been for your instrument. I think the competitiveness just

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<v Speaker 4>kind of kept the iron.

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<v Speaker 3>Sharp, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So to those of y'all that don't know, tell them

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<v Speaker 1>what shedding is, they'd be like, well, I got shed

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<v Speaker 1>skin hair, what is shit?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay? Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>So in the musicians world, in terminology, shedding is when

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<v Speaker 4>musicians come together and just get it out. They just

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<v Speaker 4>get it out. They get it out, they learn from

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<v Speaker 4>each other. A lot of the stuff is instinct, so

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<v Speaker 4>they try things they probably have always started off but

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<v Speaker 4>never done. A lot of times you have a younger

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<v Speaker 4>musicians here recording it to study and to capture the moment.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just a room full of iron shopping and iron.

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<v Speaker 4>Whether it's for now, whether it's for later, whether it's

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<v Speaker 4>for now and later. But it's like one of the

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<v Speaker 4>most amazing things to see because you see some.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the what you did there Pineapple now later twenty twelve.

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<v Speaker 3>I take that, I take that, I take that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, It's just it's just an incredible time of musicians

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<v Speaker 4>exploring without songs that can keep them chained to a

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<v Speaker 4>certain style.

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<v Speaker 3>Of play. You could just kind of be you. That's

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<v Speaker 3>what shedding is to, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>So that being said, you can shed in someone's garage

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<v Speaker 1>at a church because it be called in Chicago, so

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<v Speaker 1>we ain't gonna be shedding, all right. So lots of

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<v Speaker 1>times sheds would happen in church. Now this is before

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<v Speaker 1>social media, before you can put your phone. Now, y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all can just google put in church and shedding, and

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<v Speaker 1>you'll be able to find some of the best who

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<v Speaker 1>get together.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't even seen musicians and singing shed after a funeral,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because unfortunately everybody come together. Let's just buy

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<v Speaker 2>about for a minute, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>And so at night that night they get they get

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<v Speaker 4>together whatever spot that they normally it is the best

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<v Speaker 4>place for musicians to gather.

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<v Speaker 3>And they pay.

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<v Speaker 4>Tribute to musicians all the time. It's just one of

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<v Speaker 4>the dopest things that you can kind of get. And honestly,

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<v Speaker 4>it doesn't last because these musicians soon spread out to

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<v Speaker 4>get the plans for all people all around the world.

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<v Speaker 4>Some become producers, some become artists. But the evolution begins.

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<v Speaker 4>So to have this magical moment with all these guys together.

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<v Speaker 3>It makes it really, really, really special.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of evolution, you went from Chicago to LA and

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<v Speaker 1>if y'all stick with me, I'm going somewhere here. How

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<v Speaker 1>was that transition for you to say, I'm gonna take

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<v Speaker 1>a chance and I'm gonna move out my comfort zone

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<v Speaker 1>and go to LA for real?

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<v Speaker 3>For real?

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<v Speaker 4>I had a chance to move to New York or LA.

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<v Speaker 4>That was my choices, right, My soul, my heart, my being,

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<v Speaker 4>my style.

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<v Speaker 3>Would have been in New York.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just pointing over.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, but La.

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<v Speaker 4>I knew more people musically that could teach me things,

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<v Speaker 4>help me advance and evolves world musically. I didn't have

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<v Speaker 4>that many people in New York that I knew, percy

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<v Speaker 4>that was really serious, that could really help me. And

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<v Speaker 4>knowing that I wanted to help myself more than they

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to help me, Like I had to drive, I

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<v Speaker 4>just wanted to be around the right people that I

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<v Speaker 4>could learn from in advance, meet new people, network, you

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<v Speaker 4>know that type of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And LA is the place for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And that that was why because you mentioned a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of external things. You got the look, you got

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<v Speaker 1>the vibe, you got to this and as y'all if

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<v Speaker 1>y'all can see him now.

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<v Speaker 2>He's definitely given me New York. He's definitely given me Brooklyn.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 1>That is so good and so y'all, I will never

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<v Speaker 1>forget you. Were one of the singers that were singing

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<v Speaker 1>for some background vocals for incredible artists, and there were

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<v Speaker 1>tons of us me and cluded saying one day he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to do something solo.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, if I'm not mistaken.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in twenty twelve, it was considered a mixtape or

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<v Speaker 1>an EP. When you drive Pineapple now, laters, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twelve was that?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was twenty twelve. Pineapple was considered an album.

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<v Speaker 4>To me, Okay, we paid, we paid for them beats.

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<v Speaker 4>There was all original beats, pay producers, pay for the

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<v Speaker 4>studio time, like we did everything. They had this physical CD,

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<v Speaker 4>y wably could.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I still got.

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<v Speaker 4>What's crazy is when I moved into my new house,

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<v Speaker 4>I went through a box and I found a bunch

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<v Speaker 4>of old stuff and I was like, Yo, this is crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>So it was just so good just to hold a

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<v Speaker 4>real authentic copy from that time. Yeah, man, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>the Pineapple is considered an album for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all have to get it because I want you to

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<v Speaker 1>understand the musical journey, and it definitely paid homage to

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<v Speaker 1>where he comes from, his parents, his family, his church relationships.

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<v Speaker 1>I even think, you, what do I feel like you?

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<v Speaker 1>Was there something at the shrine in Chicago? Was there

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<v Speaker 1>a shrine in Chicago?

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<v Speaker 3>And I thank you?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's when I announced it. I was signed to Motown.

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<v Speaker 4>My dad there, my family was there.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you have an incredible memory.

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<v Speaker 2>Y'all because I love BJ like I'm a I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a fan.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a fan. And so even when when y'all sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>people reach out and say, hey, my client's got an

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<v Speaker 1>album coming out. So I just saw the subject line

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<v Speaker 1>BJ the Chicago kid. I said, yes, I didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>read what you got.

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<v Speaker 3>What's going on?

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<v Speaker 2>It could have been like he owed eighty million dollars

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<v Speaker 2>in child support.

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<v Speaker 3>If I owe eighty that means I must have made

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<v Speaker 3>come on, somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>Three he met five hundred million.

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<v Speaker 4>But no, man, I appreciate that. It's always been love, man,

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<v Speaker 4>But go ahead, go ahead, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you got in my mind in twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>you got eleven, twenty three, and I know all of

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<v Speaker 1>those albums, and I'm excited about what's about to drop. So, y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited because his album comes out this week.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called Gravy.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we're gonna get into all that because I

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<v Speaker 1>like Gravy and I don't know. I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that he talking about the same I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, because a different.

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<v Speaker 2>Time talking about it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we had different times. We different times too, terms

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<v Speaker 4>and times.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember a song that you demoed. I can't say

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<v Speaker 1>the title. I shouldn't say. I can't say the title.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was amazing, y'all. It was a really sexy song.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew I couldn't sing it.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait a minute, I'll be honest.

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<v Speaker 1>I gave the song to be and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>at that time, y'all, that's how long he and I

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<v Speaker 1>know each other. At that time, I was like, this

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<v Speaker 1>might be too sexy for her, y'all. That's how sexy

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<v Speaker 1>the song.

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<v Speaker 5>Was.

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<v Speaker 1>So so, I think you also had a song about

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<v Speaker 1>you know, she wants me to stay tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>But I got church in the yeah, yeah, which is

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<v Speaker 2>such a duality as so many of us who were

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<v Speaker 2>raised in church. Yeah, I want to do this.

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<v Speaker 1>But now, because you were raised in church, the automatic

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<v Speaker 1>thing would probably would have been for you to go gospel.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I mean, it's the most unguessable having to do things.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>You didn't have to guess if somebody looked at me

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<v Speaker 4>back then and somebody oh yeah for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, And what made you say, Hey, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>just know I love Jesus, but I can be a

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<v Speaker 1>light in the R and B industry too.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think number one, I think I really believe

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<v Speaker 4>when preachers or pastors or ministers go on dates with

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<v Speaker 4>their wife, they don't always play Kirrt Franklin. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>there has to be a balance, a healthy balance. A

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<v Speaker 4>healthy balance is kind of what allowed me to say

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<v Speaker 4>yes to doing what I'm doing now, and you got

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<v Speaker 4>me here now. Just I just.

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<v Speaker 3>Promised myself to have a message.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't just be too like what we used to call

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<v Speaker 4>buck remember, don't be too bucked, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>I try to have a little fun with it, but

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<v Speaker 4>always always legal with messages that can help them out

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<v Speaker 4>in life. Not just relationships that can help male listeners

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<v Speaker 4>become better men, help the female listeners. Really just try

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<v Speaker 4>to be the best that they can be and give

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<v Speaker 4>them more confidence, tell them that they're beautiful, and help

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<v Speaker 4>them understand they working. So that's that's been my balance

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<v Speaker 4>and my promise to myself to allow me to even

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<v Speaker 4>still feel comfortable doing what I do.

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<v Speaker 3>But my family has been incredibly supportive.

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<v Speaker 4>They never condemned me, and honestly, the type of tough

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<v Speaker 4>skin that I have, I can't give a damn what

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<v Speaker 4>they said. Not my family, but anybody else. My family

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<v Speaker 4>the only people out there about these people, and they say,

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<v Speaker 4>well they you know they go. I never met they

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<v Speaker 4>in my life and if I ever met they, you

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<v Speaker 4>probably got problems. They probably gonna catch these hands because.

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<v Speaker 3>I never met him. They bullied everybody. Everybody's scared today.

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<v Speaker 3>So good.

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, ain't been smoked weed. It wasn't no secret. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it has been in him.

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<v Speaker 2>He has been himself.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, like mom was a choir director,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know my mom know I smoke weed.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>We are very honest in our family, and we like uh,

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<v Speaker 4>we also hold each other account and responsible so long

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<v Speaker 4>as everything is respected. Many they except me for who

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<v Speaker 4>I am. They understand that times are change it and

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<v Speaker 4>it's actually more.

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<v Speaker 3>Healing than it is doing. Damn it, you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, And by the way, with the whole thing about

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<v Speaker 1>smoking weed, it was a joke. By the way, it

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<v Speaker 1>took me a long time because I grew I grew

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<v Speaker 1>up in a thing where you know, if somebody smokes

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<v Speaker 1>cigarettes and you you almost looked down on them. But

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I know a lot of functional, amazing

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<v Speaker 1>people with good heart that partake in the greenery. Now

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<v Speaker 1>there is an extract of it that has helped my anxiety.

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<v Speaker 2>In an amazing way.

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<v Speaker 1>So I have no no, no judgment.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no judgment. I think when you see people.

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<v Speaker 1>From gospel to secular, secular to gospel, there just seems

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<v Speaker 1>to be so much controversy.

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<v Speaker 2>But y'all, he just spoke to the controversy. He said,

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<v Speaker 2>who was they?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care about they as long as my family

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<v Speaker 1>and I are good and we love each other and

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<v Speaker 1>my friends are supportive, and I'm very excited about your

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<v Speaker 1>new album. I feel like you took a little break.

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<v Speaker 1>There was even a period of time where I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>see you.

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<v Speaker 2>On social media a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel like my spirit was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's just taking time. He's taking time.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, if you don't live now, you ain't got nothing

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<v Speaker 4>right about it. You definitely got no place to sing from.

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<v Speaker 4>I think Quarantine was the time that I was in

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<v Speaker 4>the studio a lot. Like I would say, right before Quarantine,

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<v Speaker 4>I I've damned it locked myself in there just so

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<v Speaker 4>I can get it out. I feel like I was

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<v Speaker 4>making some of the best music of my life. Got

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<v Speaker 4>the call from YETI that he was ready to pretty

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<v Speaker 4>much move forward with the Gravy Project and he wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to do that and mephis at our Green studio.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, all right, how dope is that? That? That

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<v Speaker 2>was That's the first question on my rundown.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was like, I can't lead with that because

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<v Speaker 1>I want we know each other, so I wasn't going

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<v Speaker 1>to just go right into so tell me about your

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<v Speaker 1>new album. Like, no, I agree in Memphis you are very,

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<v Speaker 1>very soulful, but not It's like he BJ's not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have the suit and tie on serenading or or now

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<v Speaker 1>he can he can croon the hell out like you

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<v Speaker 1>can croon now, don't he can.

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<v Speaker 3>That?

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<v Speaker 2>You can do that? You can do y'all. He'll croon

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<v Speaker 2>and You'll be pregnant And man, now.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, did you choose the studio depending on the flavor

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<v Speaker 1>of what you wanted with the recording or how does

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<v Speaker 1>that Did that make a difference in the music?

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely not, honestly, all that credit goals to Yetti. Yet

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<v Speaker 4>he beats he picked the studio he I didn't even know.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought he wanted to do it here in La

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<v Speaker 4>to be totally honest with you, But we end up

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<v Speaker 4>doing it in mephis at Al Green Studio, which is

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<v Speaker 4>across the street from the projects.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying. Everything A Green was giving us.

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<v Speaker 4>Everything he gave us was really trill like he it

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<v Speaker 4>was tested there, I'm sure you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>So that feeling was very authentic working there. I feel

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<v Speaker 4>like the respect and the respect level and the quality

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<v Speaker 4>of music that was made in that place, we wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to respect and leave some for the next person. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>we didn't want to mess up the train, like like

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<v Speaker 4>you can tell being there that some magic was made.

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<v Speaker 4>So we wanted to use that, that that feeling and

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<v Speaker 4>that energy to kind of like help us with ours

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<v Speaker 4>and leave something there for somebody else.

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<v Speaker 3>But it was It was like singing in the museum. Yo.

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<v Speaker 3>It was so cold. It was dope. It was dope.

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<v Speaker 3>It was dope.

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<v Speaker 1>And not only was it where magic was made, but

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<v Speaker 1>artists came there as their authentic self, with their struggle,

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<v Speaker 1>with their pain.

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<v Speaker 4>With their joy in never met each other before for

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<v Speaker 4>real too. For Gravy, I heard of the indications, but

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<v Speaker 4>I never met them. They never met Charlie. Charlie never

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<v Speaker 4>met YETI. So a lot of us got there getting

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<v Speaker 4>to know each other through these songs.

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<v Speaker 3>Come on, eating, eating.

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<v Speaker 4>Together, vibing together, talking together, you know, finding out who

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<v Speaker 4>got kids, who, how many brothers, sisters you got, you

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<v Speaker 4>know those questions. You really get to know people being

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<v Speaker 4>in there those late hours in those studios. Man, that

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<v Speaker 4>pretty much it brought us together for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>See the thing about not having a physical CD, you

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<v Speaker 1>could actually turn and read the credits. But y'all, for

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<v Speaker 1>those of y'all, for those of y'all that are on

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<v Speaker 1>streaming music platforms, I go to a song Liquor Store

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<v Speaker 1>in the Sky, which is on his Gravy album that

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<v Speaker 1>is coming out within days. Okay, you go to the

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<v Speaker 1>tap the thing that says view full lyrics that will

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<v Speaker 1>give you the credits of producers and writers. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking at Aaron Frazer, Blake, Brain Booker Jones, Brian James, Le,

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<v Speaker 1>Charlie Burrow.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Charlie started off Biggs throwing the sky like hands down.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they was out there eating wings or something, and.

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<v Speaker 4>Charlie picked up that big old Gibson that looked like

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<v Speaker 4>a Cadillac and started playing that.

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<v Speaker 3>Bloom boom blond boom dun.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, I don't want no wings either, No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what I.

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<v Speaker 3>Was about to say.

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<v Speaker 2>I was about to say, where them wings?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that?

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<v Speaker 2>So I could get some of that inspiration where the wings?

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<v Speaker 4>They was eating the wings, But Charlie was just still like,

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<v Speaker 4>I think that mother was just sitting on him. Cluse,

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<v Speaker 4>I think for real, for real. That's probably the third

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<v Speaker 4>time he played that.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 4>He's like, man, I love that song so much. I

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<v Speaker 4>just keep playing it randomly sometimes. So while they was

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<v Speaker 4>eating wings, he was playing that, and I heard him

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<v Speaker 4>playing that, and I walked in there and it just

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<v Speaker 4>began to be the first song we did after eating

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<v Speaker 4>those wings, and.

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<v Speaker 3>My my mind, I had that song title in my phone.

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<v Speaker 4>Honestly, like producers got sounds in the computer and on

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<v Speaker 4>their hard drive. I got song titles and themes and

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<v Speaker 4>phrases all in my phone and my notes, just from

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<v Speaker 4>stuff that just moves me over time. And that song

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<v Speaker 4>title has been in there for a little bit over

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<v Speaker 4>year at that time, to that date, because I was

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<v Speaker 4>just waiting on the perfect time music or something something

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<v Speaker 4>something to just like sound like what this felt like

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<v Speaker 4>to me when I said it to myself, liquors store

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<v Speaker 4>in the sky, it sounded like that ghetto heaven, you

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<v Speaker 4>know what I'm saying. And when he played there, I

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<v Speaker 4>was like, Yo, this is this liquor.

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<v Speaker 3>Store in the sky over here. This is it. So that's.

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<v Speaker 1>BJ don't don't record nothing no more and not tell

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<v Speaker 1>me I want to be there.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to all right.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to eat the wings and all of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you've got someone else, dear to my heart,

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<v Speaker 1>Corey Henry. We have the same management. He's on forgotten

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<v Speaker 1>your name and the King himself. Did he come to

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<v Speaker 1>Memphis or did he have to send his stuff in?

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<v Speaker 4>I wanted him to come to mephis so bad. But

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<v Speaker 4>he we actually okay. So when we were in Memphis,

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<v Speaker 4>we traveled foot we were gone for seven days, but

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<v Speaker 4>we were in the studio for five. Within that five days,

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<v Speaker 4>we did pretty much like seventeen songs. We came back

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<v Speaker 4>to LA with those seventeen we added strings and hums

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<v Speaker 4>in La, tweaked the songs a little bit more, went

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<v Speaker 4>back to Memphis to put the other layer of strings

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<v Speaker 4>and horns, went back to LA, added a few songs,

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<v Speaker 4>added the other touches like Corey.

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<v Speaker 3>So in LA.

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<v Speaker 4>When we came back to La, Corey Henry, We've been

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<v Speaker 4>out a big studio and we had everything from a

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<v Speaker 4>class to the Oregon to the Fender Rose like everything

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<v Speaker 4>that Corey Henry specialized in, and he came in and

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<v Speaker 4>just kind of like gave us everything we need on

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<v Speaker 4>each song that we felt we needed him for. Corey

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<v Speaker 4>is like, I mean, away from his talent, as a person, man,

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<v Speaker 4>he's an incredible guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you wouldn't think you would find good people

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<v Speaker 4>like this in the music industry because of the stories

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<v Speaker 4>and the stigmas of this game and of this industry.

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<v Speaker 3>But Corey is definitely one of the real ones.

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<v Speaker 4>Man. Anytime I call him if he's available, my dog

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<v Speaker 4>rock with me and I do the same for him

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<v Speaker 4>in return us together, we've been having a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>fun in the studio, lady outside of Gravy too.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, he came and knocked it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, y'all, it's I'm excited about this album, Gravy. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta tell us how the title come about? Or

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<v Speaker 1>is this something we need to discover? Do we need

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<v Speaker 1>to discover it through the music? You can tell us that, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 4>I think me explaining it helps you even welcome the

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<v Speaker 4>world of Gravy even.

0:22:43.080 --> 0:22:48.119
<v Speaker 3>Better and tighter. So Gravy is the reason why I

0:22:48.160 --> 0:22:50.160
<v Speaker 3>walked away. I walked out. I talked the way I talk.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the great Granddaddy of sauce. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>When theiggad be like, yeah, I got the sauce, just

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<v Speaker 4>a great started with Gravy, got it. It's that thing

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<v Speaker 4>that my great grandfather that he was working his his

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<v Speaker 4>his his whole life just to elevate his.

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<v Speaker 3>Hit, his wage.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we all have people that when we were younger,

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<v Speaker 4>we saw people that just did certain things the way

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<v Speaker 4>we loved it and the way we wish we could

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<v Speaker 4>have done. And when we got older and maybe financially

0:23:16.560 --> 0:23:18.600
<v Speaker 4>was able to buy that pair of shoes or something

0:23:18.640 --> 0:23:21.679
<v Speaker 4>like that jacket, or have a car similar, whatever that

0:23:21.720 --> 0:23:24.520
<v Speaker 4>thing was that make you feel closer connected to that

0:23:24.640 --> 0:23:25.640
<v Speaker 4>espirace you had as a kid.

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<v Speaker 3>That's that gravy, but you taking.

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<v Speaker 4>It, you translated it and evolved into something that's very

0:23:29.600 --> 0:23:33.560
<v Speaker 4>translatable and it's complementable. That's that gravy. Gravy is that

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<v Speaker 4>new s h I t all right. So it's the soul.

0:23:39.200 --> 0:23:44.400
<v Speaker 4>It's soul music. It's purely the essence of dope, man,

0:23:44.480 --> 0:23:46.760
<v Speaker 4>the essence of being great when you got on your

0:23:46.760 --> 0:23:48.800
<v Speaker 4>favorite dress. It's that feeling every day when you got

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<v Speaker 4>on sweatstoe.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying. It's that same yeah, because okay,

0:23:55.800 --> 0:23:57.720
<v Speaker 3>and to let us talk about physical gravy.

0:23:57.720 --> 0:24:01.480
<v Speaker 4>It's mother's It covers, it's seasonings, and you want it

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<v Speaker 4>on a little bit of everything almost And if you

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<v Speaker 4>get on somebody these poster.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gravy. Baby, come on, baby now now, now, b J.

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<v Speaker 1>I left a little bit of space without interjecting, because

0:24:13.800 --> 0:24:15.720
<v Speaker 1>I said, this is a freaking interlude.

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<v Speaker 3>Give it.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't give you that.

0:24:20.720 --> 0:24:23.679
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna give you this sound. Because even as you

0:24:23.680 --> 0:24:27.399
<v Speaker 1>were speaking, I heard melody I heard almost sounded like

0:24:27.520 --> 0:24:29.560
<v Speaker 1>you was tuning up a little bit in the pool pit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yo.

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<v Speaker 2>You know it's so real man, y'all, y'all gotta see

0:24:35.880 --> 0:24:37.600
<v Speaker 2>the way gravy lit him up.

0:24:39.119 --> 0:24:41.359
<v Speaker 4>And the way honestly did we did it in Memphis,

0:24:41.480 --> 0:24:46.159
<v Speaker 4>Mephis you know, Southern, huggable, warm.

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<v Speaker 3>Loving that plate. You're gonna love it when you get it.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's why not gravy, you know?

0:24:51.160 --> 0:24:53.320
<v Speaker 2>Why not? So all I could think of is like

0:24:53.960 --> 0:24:55.440
<v Speaker 2>smothered chicken.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't want unless unless it's like biscuits and gravy.

0:24:59.359 --> 0:25:02.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't want my gravy too light skin. There's a

0:25:02.359 --> 0:25:06.080
<v Speaker 1>certain gravy that it's gotta be right right here.

0:25:06.080 --> 0:25:07.399
<v Speaker 3>I'm in my kitchen. Wait, let me sell you some

0:25:07.560 --> 0:25:10.840
<v Speaker 3>Let me sell you something, Let me sell you something

0:25:10.840 --> 0:25:11.240
<v Speaker 3>real quick.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to show them something that allows them

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<v Speaker 3>to understand.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh huh.

0:25:21.720 --> 0:25:23.760
<v Speaker 3>You got to keep it brown, baby, you gotta keep

0:25:23.760 --> 0:25:28.040
<v Speaker 3>it brown. You gotta have gravy, baby, you gotta.

0:25:28.720 --> 0:25:30.280
<v Speaker 2>You got to have it.

0:25:30.440 --> 0:25:32.880
<v Speaker 1>And you put that gravy on that piece of meat

0:25:32.920 --> 0:25:35.360
<v Speaker 1>of your choice, and then it and you put them

0:25:35.359 --> 0:25:36.520
<v Speaker 1>on some rice.

0:25:36.480 --> 0:25:36.840
<v Speaker 2>Or put it.

0:25:36.960 --> 0:25:39.639
<v Speaker 1>Get a ladle and put that thing on some mashed potatoes.

0:25:40.000 --> 0:25:41.800
<v Speaker 1>Now this is not the Food Network.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, but you but you get the world. But you

0:25:45.760 --> 0:25:47.560
<v Speaker 4>get the world with dwelling in you know what I'm saying.

0:25:48.320 --> 0:25:51.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm hype so so so you said, gravy is in you,

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<v Speaker 1>not on you?

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<v Speaker 2>Can it be can it be learned? Can it be taught?

0:25:56.440 --> 0:26:00.080
<v Speaker 2>Can it be given? Or it's something you're born with it?

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<v Speaker 4>I think you're definitely born with it. But the language

0:26:04.080 --> 0:26:06.840
<v Speaker 4>is still understandable to somebody that wasn't born with it.

0:26:06.880 --> 0:26:08.680
<v Speaker 4>That's what makes them able to compliment it.

0:26:08.800 --> 0:26:10.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yes, it was just.

0:26:10.400 --> 0:26:12.040
<v Speaker 4>Such a stupid thing. They wouldn't even be able to

0:26:12.080 --> 0:26:15.399
<v Speaker 4>recognize it to compliment it. But you definitely got to

0:26:15.400 --> 0:26:16.240
<v Speaker 4>be born with ita.

0:26:16.359 --> 0:26:18.600
<v Speaker 2>Come on, come on, what's the thing?

0:26:19.720 --> 0:26:20.040
<v Speaker 3>The thing?

0:26:20.080 --> 0:26:22.600
<v Speaker 2>Maybe she's born with it. Maybe it's mabeling like.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that grave, it's that gravy. Another collab another collaboration.

0:26:28.440 --> 0:26:30.520
<v Speaker 1>So y'all we got caught up talked about gravy'all wanted

0:26:30.560 --> 0:26:34.040
<v Speaker 1>to talk about the song that you have with Cold

0:26:34.119 --> 0:26:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Cole Jones. Now I could be I believe I call

0:26:37.640 --> 0:26:40.280
<v Speaker 1>myself knowing a lot of your catalogs spend the night.

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<v Speaker 1>Was that kind of a even though it's still soulful,

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<v Speaker 1>but was that kind of a sonically different for you

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<v Speaker 1>to do because I've heard I've heard some people consider

0:26:51.480 --> 0:26:52.520
<v Speaker 1>it dance music.

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<v Speaker 4>It's more it's it's more simpler for me to do. Actually,

0:26:56.920 --> 0:27:03.879
<v Speaker 4>it's more easier to do my natural style that Gravey

0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:05.520
<v Speaker 4>ben Bruins since I was a kid. That's why it's

0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:08.240
<v Speaker 4>so easy for me to do my style. But this

0:27:08.320 --> 0:27:10.680
<v Speaker 4>style is more simpler, more direct, more straight to the point.

0:27:10.720 --> 0:27:13.360
<v Speaker 4>It's more it's a more popular sound. So that more

0:27:13.400 --> 0:27:17.760
<v Speaker 4>popular sound is broadening the right places to reach a

0:27:17.760 --> 0:27:20.560
<v Speaker 4>more broader audience as well. Yet he Beats is known

0:27:20.640 --> 0:27:22.800
<v Speaker 4>for the likes of Doja Cat and some of the

0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:24.960
<v Speaker 4>songs that caused us to even know her name and

0:27:24.960 --> 0:27:28.800
<v Speaker 4>who she is. He's always wanted to do a soul album.

0:27:29.080 --> 0:27:31.360
<v Speaker 4>I've always wanted to learn from a more popular sound.

0:27:31.359 --> 0:27:33.400
<v Speaker 4>It's someone that I trusted. So we decided to put

0:27:33.400 --> 0:27:36.320
<v Speaker 4>our two worlds together and somewhat learned from each other.

0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:38.920
<v Speaker 4>But somehow mixed these beakers and what's in them to

0:27:39.000 --> 0:27:42.600
<v Speaker 4>kind of form something that became gravy. So really this

0:27:42.680 --> 0:27:45.320
<v Speaker 4>is not a typical BJ album. This is more like

0:27:45.359 --> 0:27:47.600
<v Speaker 4>a like a gnaulge Barkley or something like that.

0:27:47.720 --> 0:27:48.600
<v Speaker 3>It sort of speak.

0:27:49.080 --> 0:27:52.080
<v Speaker 4>This is more of a collaborative effort of us having

0:27:52.200 --> 0:27:54.520
<v Speaker 4>fun putting that experience of going to Mephis and the

0:27:54.560 --> 0:27:57.119
<v Speaker 4>different faces and talents and gifts that came and like

0:27:57.200 --> 0:28:00.000
<v Speaker 4>donated this stuff and they talented and gifts to this project.

0:28:00.400 --> 0:28:02.200
<v Speaker 4>I mean, even the people that didn't go to Memphis.

0:28:02.560 --> 0:28:04.919
<v Speaker 4>It's just to me it just came to be a

0:28:05.119 --> 0:28:08.000
<v Speaker 4>real labor of love because it took time.

0:28:08.440 --> 0:28:11.600
<v Speaker 3>It took time for sure. We recorded this during quarantine

0:28:11.640 --> 0:28:12.360
<v Speaker 3>where we know.

0:28:12.400 --> 0:28:15.239
<v Speaker 4>How long it was gonna be, you know, just just

0:28:15.320 --> 0:28:17.840
<v Speaker 4>the whole not knowing the unknown of everything.

0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:19.960
<v Speaker 3>We knew he was least gonna be making some music

0:28:20.000 --> 0:28:21.680
<v Speaker 3>that was a part of our happiness through that time.

0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:25.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you said something that I feel like a lot

0:28:25.600 --> 0:28:27.680
<v Speaker 1>of us are scared to do. We feel like we

0:28:27.800 --> 0:28:31.600
<v Speaker 1>know our recipe and we are not going to venture

0:28:31.720 --> 0:28:36.640
<v Speaker 1>out or bend or waiver out of what we know. Sonically.

0:28:36.760 --> 0:28:40.000
<v Speaker 1>This is what I am known for. But I heard

0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:46.000
<v Speaker 1>you say you called somebody that you trust that maybe

0:28:46.240 --> 0:28:48.400
<v Speaker 1>it might have you venture out and do another song.

0:28:48.440 --> 0:28:51.280
<v Speaker 1>But I feel like this is still gonna this is

0:28:51.400 --> 0:28:53.160
<v Speaker 1>all gonna mesh well with your.

0:28:52.960 --> 0:28:55.040
<v Speaker 2>Catalog period when you do your.

0:28:54.920 --> 0:28:57.520
<v Speaker 1>Live shows, it ain't gonna sound you know what I'm

0:28:57.560 --> 0:28:58.080
<v Speaker 1>trying to say.

0:28:58.160 --> 0:28:59.160
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna make sense.

0:28:59.200 --> 0:29:02.680
<v Speaker 4>It all makes yeah, And I never I never wanted

0:29:02.800 --> 0:29:06.840
<v Speaker 4>my catalog at the end of the day. Imagine if

0:29:06.880 --> 0:29:09.520
<v Speaker 4>all of our catalogs were it was one wall, but

0:29:09.640 --> 0:29:12.160
<v Speaker 4>everything was on this one wall. I would not want

0:29:12.160 --> 0:29:13.720
<v Speaker 4>my one water to look the same. I wanted to

0:29:13.760 --> 0:29:15.800
<v Speaker 4>look beautiful. I wanted to tell my story even in

0:29:15.800 --> 0:29:19.240
<v Speaker 4>the framing. I wanted to be a beautiful piece of work.

0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:21.320
<v Speaker 4>Some of it is tears. Some of its tears of joy.

0:29:21.440 --> 0:29:23.680
<v Speaker 4>Some of it is pure celebration. Some of it is

0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:26.640
<v Speaker 4>missing my friends that I wish could Seei's not quitting

0:29:27.000 --> 0:29:29.440
<v Speaker 4>I wish. I mean, it's full of all of that.

0:29:29.480 --> 0:29:31.680
<v Speaker 4>It's a it's a roller coaster of emotion. And I

0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:34.720
<v Speaker 4>think even tempo wise, I needed to spend the night.

0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:39.040
<v Speaker 4>I needed to spend the night. If you if you,

0:29:39.200 --> 0:29:41.320
<v Speaker 4>if you love more than your genre, then you would

0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:43.400
<v Speaker 4>want something more than what you could create by yourself.

0:29:43.480 --> 0:29:45.320
<v Speaker 4>And I think that's what this allowed me to do.

0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:47.400
<v Speaker 4>This allowed me to actually learn more things that I

0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:50.280
<v Speaker 4>could implicate into my own music that is from more

0:29:50.800 --> 0:29:53.480
<v Speaker 4>popular styles of music and things like that, just even

0:29:53.480 --> 0:29:55.200
<v Speaker 4>in the studio before the people get it. It just

0:29:55.240 --> 0:29:58.920
<v Speaker 4>gave me so much more to learn from Yetti, from Ryan,

0:29:59.560 --> 0:30:02.800
<v Speaker 4>from Boo Mitchell, those guys, I mean, Corey, all of

0:30:02.840 --> 0:30:06.000
<v Speaker 4>those guys. They didn't just play a punch, but they

0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:07.640
<v Speaker 4>know how they wanted to sit in the song to

0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:10.360
<v Speaker 4>make it be impactful. I sit there and I watch

0:30:10.560 --> 0:30:12.040
<v Speaker 4>all of that. I don't do the single thing and

0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:14.160
<v Speaker 4>go to the mall or go mess with a woman.

0:30:14.560 --> 0:30:16.880
<v Speaker 4>I need to be in there because this is my

0:30:17.040 --> 0:30:20.200
<v Speaker 4>video game. This is my new toy every day it

0:30:20.280 --> 0:30:21.080
<v Speaker 4>so I always love.

0:30:21.040 --> 0:30:23.240
<v Speaker 3>Learnning new stuff. Yeah, so this is this process has

0:30:23.320 --> 0:30:24.240
<v Speaker 3>been pretty dope.

0:30:24.120 --> 0:30:27.360
<v Speaker 1>And you've always you're always a student, which comes out

0:30:27.400 --> 0:30:31.600
<v Speaker 1>even just as you're speaking. It's so passionate and I

0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:35.160
<v Speaker 1>just from even personally like you've experienced some laws.

0:30:35.400 --> 0:30:36.560
<v Speaker 2>You've been through a lot.

0:30:37.160 --> 0:30:41.040
<v Speaker 1>Jay, You've been through a lot, and you know, I'm

0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:46.280
<v Speaker 1>excited and encouraged that you continue to push through and

0:30:47.160 --> 0:30:51.040
<v Speaker 1>do what you were born to do, which is to

0:30:51.160 --> 0:31:00.720
<v Speaker 1>do music. You remind me of even like someone like PJ.

0:31:00.840 --> 0:31:03.320
<v Speaker 1>Morton who felt like there was a time where he

0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:06.440
<v Speaker 1>was questioned or even forced to almost change his sound.

0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:10.320
<v Speaker 1>Did you ever go through that whereas somebody's like, you know,

0:31:10.520 --> 0:31:14.120
<v Speaker 1>if you work with so and so, you know you

0:31:14.200 --> 0:31:17.240
<v Speaker 1>might get a little more success. You know, if you

0:31:17.400 --> 0:31:20.960
<v Speaker 1>changed your style, did anybody? I gotta feel like he

0:31:21.000 --> 0:31:22.720
<v Speaker 1>probably would have custom them out. I probably think I

0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:24.520
<v Speaker 1>know your answer that.

0:31:25.440 --> 0:31:29.240
<v Speaker 4>There are there are people that suggest things that aren't

0:31:29.240 --> 0:31:31.760
<v Speaker 4>suitable for me all the time, knowing who you are,

0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:35.640
<v Speaker 4>trusting who you are, wanting to be better than who

0:31:35.680 --> 0:31:38.600
<v Speaker 4>you are, to not settle in your talent and in

0:31:38.640 --> 0:31:41.920
<v Speaker 4>your place, to still do things to keep the iron sharp.

0:31:42.320 --> 0:31:45.400
<v Speaker 4>I think all of that is a part of understanding

0:31:45.400 --> 0:31:47.080
<v Speaker 4>what to do and having the right people around you

0:31:47.120 --> 0:31:50.600
<v Speaker 4>to trust to do so things. It's just it all

0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:54.040
<v Speaker 4>kind of coincides. But yeah, people always have a plan

0:31:54.280 --> 0:31:58.000
<v Speaker 4>for your life, if that makes any sense. Everybody, they

0:31:58.360 --> 0:32:01.080
<v Speaker 4>always have a plan for your life. As long as

0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:02.760
<v Speaker 4>you got a plan for your life, you definitely know

0:32:02.800 --> 0:32:05.040
<v Speaker 4>what should be on your plate and what should the

0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:06.640
<v Speaker 4>gravy should always.

0:32:06.280 --> 0:32:08.080
<v Speaker 2>Gravey should always be on your planet.

0:32:09.680 --> 0:32:09.920
<v Speaker 3>BJ.

0:32:10.720 --> 0:32:12.880
<v Speaker 1>We got to give you the audio from this entire

0:32:12.920 --> 0:32:16.320
<v Speaker 1>interview because you've said so many nuggets and I thank

0:32:16.360 --> 0:32:21.680
<v Speaker 1>you for your time. I'm excited about Gravy. It's already ready, y'all.

0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Listen on my phone like it's already. You see that

0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:29.200
<v Speaker 1>check mark, That means because I got it, and I

0:32:29.200 --> 0:32:33.480
<v Speaker 1>already got the way you get, Oh, you get faux

0:32:33.560 --> 0:32:40.360
<v Speaker 1>songs right now if you go, just don't press play,

0:32:40.400 --> 0:32:43.000
<v Speaker 1>but actually download the album.

0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:47.000
<v Speaker 3>Hit the arrow, hit that green arrow, Hit that green arrow.

0:32:47.080 --> 0:32:51.400
<v Speaker 4>Every every streaming site has that green era, hit the

0:32:52.080 --> 0:32:53.160
<v Speaker 4>hit that Arrow.

0:32:53.360 --> 0:32:53.760
<v Speaker 3>And so.

0:32:55.720 --> 0:32:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Because people feel like because they play it, that means no,

0:32:58.680 --> 0:32:59.600
<v Speaker 1>that's not a purchase.

0:32:59.640 --> 0:33:02.600
<v Speaker 2>You just it's a stream and we thank God, we

0:33:02.640 --> 0:33:04.840
<v Speaker 2>thank God for you. It's not a purchase.

0:33:04.880 --> 0:33:10.680
<v Speaker 3>So we went and we thank God for you.

0:33:10.720 --> 0:33:13.120
<v Speaker 2>But it's not.

0:33:12.040 --> 0:33:16.920
<v Speaker 1>It's not a purchase, and you have showed through the

0:33:17.040 --> 0:33:23.600
<v Speaker 1>years why it's worth the purchase. Right and before we

0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:27.360
<v Speaker 1>get going, you know, checking in was birth out of

0:33:27.480 --> 0:33:30.360
<v Speaker 1>my mental health journey, and it was a way to

0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:33.240
<v Speaker 1>bring people in that I know and love to talk

0:33:33.280 --> 0:33:36.440
<v Speaker 1>about everything you've got going on, but also to check

0:33:36.480 --> 0:33:36.880
<v Speaker 1>in with you.

0:33:37.040 --> 0:33:37.360
<v Speaker 3>B J.

0:33:38.280 --> 0:33:42.200
<v Speaker 1>I mentioned that you know you've had some loss that

0:33:42.360 --> 0:33:47.080
<v Speaker 1>maybe you don't speak publicly of. If I'm not mistaken,

0:33:47.200 --> 0:33:51.880
<v Speaker 1>you lost your father that was a big loss for you.

0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:56.320
<v Speaker 1>Did it did it impact how you make music?

0:33:56.880 --> 0:33:59.880
<v Speaker 2>Did you fall into heavy grief at all? Did it

0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:01.040
<v Speaker 2>paralyze you?

0:34:01.200 --> 0:34:01.480
<v Speaker 3>All that?

0:34:02.320 --> 0:34:06.080
<v Speaker 4>All of that, You don't really start grieving to after

0:34:06.120 --> 0:34:08.800
<v Speaker 4>the funeral when it's somebody that close to you. Ain't

0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:14.600
<v Speaker 4>seeing seeing seeing the body being at the church for real,

0:34:14.680 --> 0:34:16.919
<v Speaker 4>for real, depending how close the person was to you,

0:34:16.920 --> 0:34:19.399
<v Speaker 4>you not person at the funeral because you're too close.

0:34:19.480 --> 0:34:22.319
<v Speaker 4>Your brain is just doing too much. Everybody wants to

0:34:22.320 --> 0:34:24.760
<v Speaker 4>say hello, blah blah blah, just the things that happen

0:34:24.840 --> 0:34:28.040
<v Speaker 4>at the funeral. But yeah, the grief didn't start to

0:34:28.320 --> 0:34:30.919
<v Speaker 4>till I got back, until I got back home. What's

0:34:30.920 --> 0:34:34.239
<v Speaker 4>so crazy is I was in Japan when my dad

0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:37.520
<v Speaker 4>passed away. That was already my worst nightmare.

0:34:37.719 --> 0:34:40.080
<v Speaker 2>Yes, you couldn't be being so.

0:34:40.040 --> 0:34:43.680
<v Speaker 3>Far, being so far. Yeah, I'll tell you a small, fast,

0:34:43.760 --> 0:34:46.600
<v Speaker 3>deep story. It's quick, but it's so.

0:34:46.719 --> 0:34:50.000
<v Speaker 4>My dad taught me about music shaving in the bathroom

0:34:50.040 --> 0:34:51.840
<v Speaker 4>as he used to do his night job. He was

0:34:51.880 --> 0:34:57.000
<v Speaker 4>a bouncer for I mean clubs, the bulls, all type

0:34:57.040 --> 0:34:59.760
<v Speaker 4>of crazy stuff. Muhammad, Ali, Oprah Winfree, all these people.

0:35:00.120 --> 0:35:02.320
<v Speaker 4>But as he was as he was shaved he would.

0:35:02.360 --> 0:35:03.840
<v Speaker 4>It was a radio that never if you took that

0:35:03.920 --> 0:35:06.760
<v Speaker 4>radio at the bathroom, it was a real serious problem

0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:09.719
<v Speaker 4>in the house. Nobody takes the bathroom the radio out

0:35:09.800 --> 0:35:12.279
<v Speaker 4>the bathroom. So my dad used his radio pretty much

0:35:12.320 --> 0:35:15.160
<v Speaker 4>teach me who Marvin Gaye was, who Nuther Vandross was, who.

0:35:15.000 --> 0:35:18.319
<v Speaker 3>Stephanie Mill was, who Philis Hymen was.

0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:22.680
<v Speaker 4>I mean, just certain people that we know something we've

0:35:22.719 --> 0:35:25.200
<v Speaker 4>forgotten because there's so many greats that have come way

0:35:25.239 --> 0:35:27.479
<v Speaker 4>before us. But my daddy taught me about this thing

0:35:28.040 --> 0:35:30.120
<v Speaker 4>as he did that. So the fast forward this long

0:35:30.239 --> 0:35:34.200
<v Speaker 4>story of me coming to La my dad finally tells

0:35:34.239 --> 0:35:34.920
<v Speaker 4>us he has cancer.

0:35:34.960 --> 0:35:35.720
<v Speaker 3>That living in Las.

0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:39.680
<v Speaker 4>Vegas at the time, and he and our relationship began

0:35:39.760 --> 0:35:42.480
<v Speaker 4>to change a little bit for the better. We began

0:35:42.560 --> 0:35:44.600
<v Speaker 4>to talk a lot more. Certain things I would do

0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:46.480
<v Speaker 4>just to kind of like help. But whether whether it

0:35:46.560 --> 0:35:48.640
<v Speaker 4>was the B twelve shots help it's cancer, because the

0:35:48.680 --> 0:35:50.440
<v Speaker 4>pills didn't feel like nothing, but the shot made him

0:35:50.480 --> 0:35:53.120
<v Speaker 4>feel at least a little bit better for himself. He

0:35:53.200 --> 0:35:56.279
<v Speaker 4>told me one day, he said I called him and

0:35:56.280 --> 0:35:59.640
<v Speaker 4>he didn't answer, so he called me back and he said,

0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:03.239
<v Speaker 4>man shaved and took a nap. Then you call me,

0:36:04.040 --> 0:36:06.120
<v Speaker 4>and then I woke up used the bathroom. When I

0:36:06.120 --> 0:36:08.560
<v Speaker 4>walked past the mirror, he said, his shave is crooked.

0:36:08.640 --> 0:36:11.239
<v Speaker 4>He had like packages in his I knew something was

0:36:11.280 --> 0:36:14.080
<v Speaker 4>wrong because this man could shave. He could shave on

0:36:14.120 --> 0:36:16.920
<v Speaker 4>the train, don't and everything I'm talking about clean. So

0:36:17.120 --> 0:36:19.920
<v Speaker 4>for you to not be able to shave yourself.

0:36:19.719 --> 0:36:20.520
<v Speaker 3>They said a lot to me.

0:36:20.560 --> 0:36:22.960
<v Speaker 4>And I was leaving for Japan within about seven days

0:36:22.960 --> 0:36:25.239
<v Speaker 4>from this time. So this particular, let's say, if that

0:36:25.320 --> 0:36:28.920
<v Speaker 4>was on a Tuesday. That Saturday was my brother's wife's

0:36:28.920 --> 0:36:30.920
<v Speaker 4>birthday party. So at her party, I was like, y'all,

0:36:31.280 --> 0:36:33.719
<v Speaker 4>I don't feel comfortable going to Japan without seeing him,

0:36:34.000 --> 0:36:35.760
<v Speaker 4>and I think we should all go see him together,

0:36:37.280 --> 0:36:39.239
<v Speaker 4>and we end up going.

0:36:40.360 --> 0:36:43.640
<v Speaker 3>It was just so crazy of mex Yo.

0:36:43.680 --> 0:36:48.799
<v Speaker 4>Antenna's always working, because that shave told me everything. My

0:36:48.840 --> 0:36:50.319
<v Speaker 4>brothers went and have got it because they wasn't in

0:36:50.320 --> 0:36:52.360
<v Speaker 4>that bathroom when he was teaching me about these artists.

0:36:52.400 --> 0:36:54.960
<v Speaker 3>Why he was shaving. You know in the.

0:36:54.920 --> 0:36:58.040
<v Speaker 4>Movie when you see them shoot, when they shoot the

0:36:58.080 --> 0:36:59.440
<v Speaker 4>man at the beginning, but they showed a tattoo on

0:36:59.480 --> 0:37:03.799
<v Speaker 4>his hand, remember that tattoo. This is yes, life is

0:37:03.960 --> 0:37:07.120
<v Speaker 4>like that. That shit ain't for nothing. It is not

0:37:07.200 --> 0:37:09.440
<v Speaker 4>for nothing. I told my brothers, we need to go

0:37:09.480 --> 0:37:11.759
<v Speaker 4>see him. We went to see him. I had to

0:37:11.760 --> 0:37:12.239
<v Speaker 4>go to New York.

0:37:12.239 --> 0:37:13.319
<v Speaker 3>The next day. I went to New York.

0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:16.120
<v Speaker 4>They flew me back to Vegas from New York instead

0:37:16.160 --> 0:37:19.080
<v Speaker 4>of la and my brothers and then were already there.

0:37:19.080 --> 0:37:20.080
<v Speaker 3>They kind of like chill with him.

0:37:20.080 --> 0:37:21.520
<v Speaker 4>My dad was just laying there and kind of like

0:37:21.600 --> 0:37:24.600
<v Speaker 4>just vibing, chilling, just in his zone, like almost going

0:37:24.640 --> 0:37:25.160
<v Speaker 4>back to sleep.

0:37:25.520 --> 0:37:27.160
<v Speaker 3>But that was our last time seeing him alive.

0:37:27.719 --> 0:37:28.879
<v Speaker 2>How long ago was this?

0:37:28.960 --> 0:37:31.440
<v Speaker 3>Again, My dad's been going four years now.

0:37:31.360 --> 0:37:32.000
<v Speaker 2>Four years.

0:37:32.000 --> 0:37:34.640
<v Speaker 4>If I wouldn't have paid attention to that conversation about

0:37:34.640 --> 0:37:37.319
<v Speaker 4>his shave, remembering how he taught me to do what

0:37:37.360 --> 0:37:37.840
<v Speaker 4>I'm doing.

0:37:38.200 --> 0:37:41.719
<v Speaker 3>Just having that and my intenda is being up.

0:37:41.800 --> 0:37:44.440
<v Speaker 4>I just thank God because the situation and my grieving

0:37:44.480 --> 0:37:47.520
<v Speaker 4>could have been way worse without that goodbye, without that

0:37:47.600 --> 0:37:51.440
<v Speaker 4>time with him. So y'all keep your antennas up. One

0:37:51.480 --> 0:37:55.000
<v Speaker 4>plus one should always make too. If it doesn't, it's

0:37:55.040 --> 0:37:57.880
<v Speaker 4>something that you probably can. Yeah, And those type of

0:37:57.960 --> 0:38:02.600
<v Speaker 4>things kind of help my my my downtime not be

0:38:03.160 --> 0:38:08.359
<v Speaker 4>under the ground, you know. And I think it's been

0:38:08.400 --> 0:38:10.919
<v Speaker 4>a process, and yes, I definitely had a time where

0:38:12.719 --> 0:38:13.400
<v Speaker 4>I was losing it.

0:38:13.480 --> 0:38:17.400
<v Speaker 1>Yet you shared with us, you know, moments of your grief.

0:38:17.440 --> 0:38:20.920
<v Speaker 1>And by the way, everybody public figures do not have

0:38:21.000 --> 0:38:24.880
<v Speaker 1>to grieve publicly for you to know that they're grieving. Okay,

0:38:25.920 --> 0:38:28.000
<v Speaker 1>and thank you for the times and what you did

0:38:28.040 --> 0:38:28.799
<v Speaker 1>share with us.

0:38:28.920 --> 0:38:30.839
<v Speaker 2>Hey man, it's difficult for sure, tough.

0:38:30.880 --> 0:38:38.000
<v Speaker 1>So my dad's my dad's birthday comes is like it's

0:38:38.080 --> 0:38:41.319
<v Speaker 1>like a two days after your album drops, right, and

0:38:41.360 --> 0:38:43.680
<v Speaker 1>so my daddy loved music.

0:38:43.920 --> 0:38:46.160
<v Speaker 4>And and not to cut you off, my dad's funeral

0:38:46.280 --> 0:38:49.880
<v Speaker 4>was on his birthday like like some type of weird

0:38:49.880 --> 0:38:50.680
<v Speaker 4>mafia movie.

0:38:50.719 --> 0:38:52.680
<v Speaker 3>It was so freaky, it was.

0:38:52.600 --> 0:38:55.160
<v Speaker 4>It was I couldn't I couldn't hand them marriage, I

0:38:55.160 --> 0:38:57.759
<v Speaker 4>couldn't put it all together. It was too much. His

0:38:57.800 --> 0:39:01.080
<v Speaker 4>funeral was on his birthday. Never seen that everyone life,

0:39:01.120 --> 0:39:02.799
<v Speaker 4>which is what.

0:39:02.800 --> 0:39:08.799
<v Speaker 1>Day is his birthday to the first so really he

0:39:09.080 --> 0:39:13.360
<v Speaker 1>just had a birthday. So we want to say to you,

0:39:13.400 --> 0:39:16.799
<v Speaker 1>good sir, thank you, thank you for the lessons and

0:39:17.120 --> 0:39:18.600
<v Speaker 1>thank you for what you taught BJ.

0:39:18.760 --> 0:39:20.920
<v Speaker 2>Thank you for what you taught all your children.

0:39:21.440 --> 0:39:24.160
<v Speaker 1>They learned so much, and thank you for sharing that

0:39:24.239 --> 0:39:25.640
<v Speaker 1>in the way that you've shared it so.

0:39:25.719 --> 0:39:28.160
<v Speaker 2>Real, so raw, so that other listeners can know.

0:39:28.280 --> 0:39:33.640
<v Speaker 1>Like, everybody's grief is different, the intensities, the levels, And

0:39:33.680 --> 0:39:37.280
<v Speaker 1>it's not that it just gets easier just after time.

0:39:37.360 --> 0:39:41.440
<v Speaker 2>It just seems like you just begin to accept.

0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:45.720
<v Speaker 4>You have to grieve positivety, You have to positivity grief.

0:39:46.400 --> 0:39:51.720
<v Speaker 4>Negative grief only makes more problems. Okay, yeah, negative grief

0:39:51.760 --> 0:39:56.040
<v Speaker 4>only makes more problems. Sometimes you want to be by yourself,

0:39:56.080 --> 0:39:57.880
<v Speaker 4>be by yourself, and you want to be around somebody.

0:39:58.320 --> 0:40:00.040
<v Speaker 3>Try your best to just be around.

0:39:59.719 --> 0:40:02.719
<v Speaker 4>The the right people that can help support you and

0:40:03.200 --> 0:40:06.800
<v Speaker 4>lift you back to an amazing place in the amazing

0:40:06.840 --> 0:40:07.480
<v Speaker 4>mental space.

0:40:07.520 --> 0:40:09.720
<v Speaker 3>Because there was a time I didn't want to do nothing.

0:40:10.520 --> 0:40:12.799
<v Speaker 4>I had more questions when my dad died than when

0:40:12.840 --> 0:40:15.080
<v Speaker 4>he was alive, finding out who I am, why I

0:40:15.120 --> 0:40:16.680
<v Speaker 4>do this, why I am the way I am, why

0:40:16.680 --> 0:40:18.600
<v Speaker 4>I respond like this. Yeah, a lot of these things

0:40:18.600 --> 0:40:21.200
<v Speaker 4>are traits that I got from my dad. So yeah,

0:40:21.200 --> 0:40:23.520
<v Speaker 4>for those that have their parents, ask those questions, man,

0:40:23.680 --> 0:40:24.520
<v Speaker 4>how did you meet mom?

0:40:24.560 --> 0:40:24.799
<v Speaker 3>Again?

0:40:24.960 --> 0:40:28.520
<v Speaker 4>If you already know the story, asks again, get those details,

0:40:28.560 --> 0:40:32.360
<v Speaker 4>because man, we always want to know more about ourselves,

0:40:32.440 --> 0:40:34.480
<v Speaker 4>and a lot of it comes from where we come from.

0:40:34.920 --> 0:40:39.360
<v Speaker 1>Well, unless you're in a place where you can constantly

0:40:39.480 --> 0:40:44.399
<v Speaker 1>observe your parents day by day. Sometimes the best way

0:40:44.440 --> 0:40:48.520
<v Speaker 1>to know yourself is to ask the one who created you. Right,

0:40:49.400 --> 0:40:53.719
<v Speaker 1>your mom and daddy got together, did what they had

0:40:53.719 --> 0:40:57.600
<v Speaker 1>to do and created you. But ultimately God is the ultimate,

0:40:57.680 --> 0:40:59.440
<v Speaker 1>like you know, So in order for me to know

0:40:59.560 --> 0:41:05.040
<v Speaker 1>myself while while my mam is still alive, I should said, definitely,

0:41:05.160 --> 0:41:08.359
<v Speaker 1>ask the ones that got together to create you.

0:41:08.440 --> 0:41:11.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's yeah, because I think after why that story

0:41:11.719 --> 0:41:13.640
<v Speaker 4>gonna change. The older they get, they're gonna some things

0:41:13.680 --> 0:41:16.279
<v Speaker 4>might slip the mind or those details that you know.

0:41:16.760 --> 0:41:17.640
<v Speaker 3>I think the.

0:41:19.480 --> 0:41:22.200
<v Speaker 2>Older they get, Like my daddy would say.

0:41:22.320 --> 0:41:23.920
<v Speaker 3>Man, that would make it a good story. That's make

0:41:23.960 --> 0:41:24.160
<v Speaker 3>it fun.

0:41:25.920 --> 0:41:28.040
<v Speaker 2>He I was like daddy.

0:41:28.080 --> 0:41:30.839
<v Speaker 1>I was like daddy, Mama said a cuss word. He said, Man,

0:41:30.880 --> 0:41:32.480
<v Speaker 1>don't let your mama fool you.

0:41:32.719 --> 0:41:37.400
<v Speaker 2>I said, I don't want to know.

0:41:40.280 --> 0:41:43.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're surprising, they're surprised. You don't want to know.

0:41:44.640 --> 0:41:47.120
<v Speaker 3>We didn't discover none of the stuff that we've been doing.

0:41:47.120 --> 0:41:49.200
<v Speaker 3>I thought we were slick doing when we were younger. No,

0:41:49.440 --> 0:41:50.880
<v Speaker 3>we wasn't. We weren't the starters of that.

0:41:51.040 --> 0:41:51.440
<v Speaker 2>We were not.

0:41:51.840 --> 0:41:54.759
<v Speaker 3>They knew they did it. Yeah, yeah, we ain't begin that.

0:41:54.960 --> 0:41:59.160
<v Speaker 1>The original gravy, the original gravy carriers are our parents.

0:41:59.840 --> 0:42:06.960
<v Speaker 1>I am so thankful you came on here. Is there

0:42:07.120 --> 0:42:08.399
<v Speaker 1>anything you want to share?

0:42:08.400 --> 0:42:10.759
<v Speaker 2>You've been an open book and I sure appreciate it

0:42:12.000 --> 0:42:12.719
<v Speaker 2>all day.

0:42:12.760 --> 0:42:15.720
<v Speaker 4>Man, it feels good to remind them that we are human,

0:42:18.200 --> 0:42:20.759
<v Speaker 4>because we, by default, we're not.

0:42:21.400 --> 0:42:23.560
<v Speaker 3>I get it, I understand it. I get it.

0:42:23.600 --> 0:42:26.120
<v Speaker 4>I'm not I didn't make it, but I understand. I

0:42:26.200 --> 0:42:29.960
<v Speaker 4>might not agree with it, but I understand. But it

0:42:30.000 --> 0:42:33.480
<v Speaker 4>feels good to remind them that we're human, that we cried,

0:42:33.520 --> 0:42:35.640
<v Speaker 4>that we bleed, that we heard, that we smiled, that

0:42:35.719 --> 0:42:39.000
<v Speaker 4>we laughed just like them. I think that makes the

0:42:39.080 --> 0:42:42.200
<v Speaker 4>music even more better, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,

0:42:42.280 --> 0:42:46.759
<v Speaker 4>I would love to dedicate a song to you from Gravy, right,

0:42:47.160 --> 0:42:49.040
<v Speaker 4>so gif you get a chance. Listen to a song

0:42:49.080 --> 0:42:54.879
<v Speaker 4>called never Change. That song for me to you. Never change. Man,

0:42:55.080 --> 0:42:57.799
<v Speaker 4>you are the sweetest, you are amazing. You have never

0:42:57.960 --> 0:43:00.719
<v Speaker 4>not been either one of those things where every time

0:43:00.760 --> 0:43:03.319
<v Speaker 4>I've seen you in your presence on the outside. Now

0:43:03.360 --> 0:43:05.239
<v Speaker 4>I love you, I love you, I love you, I

0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:09.560
<v Speaker 4>love you so but now we listen to that song

0:43:09.600 --> 0:43:11.279
<v Speaker 4>you gotta put your arms up and do the little box.

0:43:11.360 --> 0:43:12.719
<v Speaker 4>It got a little box for you, so you ain't

0:43:12.760 --> 0:43:15.000
<v Speaker 4>gotta feel like, Yeah, you can kind of dance and

0:43:15.480 --> 0:43:17.440
<v Speaker 4>yeah yeah, got no grooves.

0:43:17.640 --> 0:43:20.600
<v Speaker 1>So excited. I'm finna go learn how to make gravy.

0:43:20.680 --> 0:43:22.239
<v Speaker 1>I know how I wanted to taste. I don't want

0:43:22.239 --> 0:43:22.720
<v Speaker 1>no lumps.

0:43:22.760 --> 0:43:24.800
<v Speaker 2>I needed to be smooth. Amen.

0:43:24.920 --> 0:43:26.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, yeah, all right.

0:43:26.160 --> 0:43:27.799
<v Speaker 4>Maybe next time we get you guys, we make we

0:43:27.840 --> 0:43:30.240
<v Speaker 4>make chicken rites and gravy and a green vetch yourself.

0:43:30.520 --> 0:43:34.319
<v Speaker 3>It's a calm bread. Yeah, showing what to do.

0:43:34.480 --> 0:43:37.480
<v Speaker 1>The family likes my college greens. I can make some greens,

0:43:37.480 --> 0:43:38.440
<v Speaker 1>for sure. I can bring some.

0:43:38.760 --> 0:43:40.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm into that. I'm into that. Bring that.

0:43:41.520 --> 0:43:45.239
<v Speaker 2>Say less everybody. We love you, BJ. We are so

0:43:45.320 --> 0:43:47.840
<v Speaker 2>excited for you. Keep pushing, keep going.

0:43:48.040 --> 0:43:51.479
<v Speaker 1>You never change as well because it's working for you,

0:43:51.520 --> 0:43:51.799
<v Speaker 1>all right.

0:43:51.840 --> 0:43:52.880
<v Speaker 2>Love you man, Thank.

0:43:52.719 --> 0:43:58.200
<v Speaker 3>You, Love you too.

0:43:59.480 --> 0:44:00.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm so much ooo.

0:44:01.520 --> 0:44:01.719
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:44:01.800 --> 0:44:04.680
<v Speaker 1>I just love being able to have conversations that just

0:44:04.760 --> 0:44:08.680
<v Speaker 1>flow with people that I am fond of, people that

0:44:08.760 --> 0:44:09.400
<v Speaker 1>I am.

0:44:09.440 --> 0:44:13.000
<v Speaker 2>A fan of. I'm a fan of BJ the Chicago Kid,

0:44:13.040 --> 0:44:14.320
<v Speaker 2>a fan of his music.

0:44:14.480 --> 0:44:19.919
<v Speaker 1>A fan before he became a solo artist. A fan

0:44:20.040 --> 0:44:23.960
<v Speaker 1>while he was singing background vocals for Mary Mary Usher,

0:44:24.400 --> 0:44:24.800
<v Speaker 1>marriy J.

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<v Speaker 2>But the list goes on. Gosh, I just remember him.

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<v Speaker 2>So my folks, my family, my siblings, we would drive.

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<v Speaker 1>Up to Chicago to hear, you know, some amazing musicians,

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<v Speaker 1>choirs and singers, and BJ.

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<v Speaker 2>The Chicago Kid was right there.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's so good to talk to him as a

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<v Speaker 1>fan of his music. Like I said, back from twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twelve when he first dropped his first album, and I'm excited,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm actually gonna go back and just listen to everything.

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<v Speaker 1>BJ the Chicago Kid. Thank y'all so much for tuning.

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<v Speaker 1>In twenty twelve, the album was titled Pineapple Now Laters,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna just listen to all things BEJ the

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago Kid for the rest of the day and make

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<v Speaker 1>sure y'all go get his album titled Gray Bay.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, love y'all soul so much again. I can't

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<v Speaker 2>do what I do without y'all. All right.

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<v Speaker 5>Bye.

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