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Speaker 1: to you that got it. Oh totally. It was just

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Speaker 1: like we can't believe this, Like when Laverne Cox came

424
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Speaker 1: out and was kicking her heels incredibly and my job

425
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 1: was dropped the whole time. I was like, I can't

426
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Speaker 1: believe she did this. How long did this take to

427
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Speaker 1: set up? In Normany, she's oh my god talking about it.

428
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Speaker 1: I mean that's like for me, I think like the

429
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Speaker 1: story of twenty nineteen Normandy was the Emersion year is

430
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Speaker 1: not over, like just completely in the dark, like all

431
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 1: of a sudden that video came out and then I

432
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Speaker 1: was supposed to know her and I was you know,

433
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Speaker 1: people in the You know what's crazy is we we

434
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Speaker 1: were making jokes about Normany like everyone was like everyone

435
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 1: was like Camilla is the star. We're like, no, Normany

436
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 1: Norman like just thinking like, oh, Normany is like a

437
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Speaker 1: funny name, but no, but she's the best part of

438
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Speaker 1: the best part of the work from Home video for me,

439
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Speaker 1: without a doubt. I was never I was being pretty

440
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Speaker 1: earnest anytime. We were like, it's Normany you guys. Well

441
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Speaker 1: then I actually checked out Normandy and I was like,

442
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Speaker 1: oh wait, Normany might actually be that real deal. And

443
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 1: then once we saw I liked her features too, motivation

444
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Speaker 1: as a whole other lot is and you can tell

445
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Speaker 1: how like intense she is, Like I always like to

446
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Speaker 1: see bts. So I went and she's like very nervous

447
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 1: before everything. She's like very specific. I feel like she's

448
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 1: she's an artist. You saw her, you saw her m

449
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Speaker 1: a too. I did see her, and that was crazy

450
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,439
Speaker 1: she and she really brought it the dancing. I again.

451
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Speaker 1: Another thing. My boyfriend was with me at that so

452
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: I could yell with someone. And he's a big Taylor Swift. Yes,

453
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Speaker 1: briend al we're together? Yes? Is he also loves um

454
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Speaker 1: well he loves Gaga, he loves he loves the girls.

455
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 1: The girls. Yeah, because we've had an extensive conversation. I

456
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Speaker 1: believe about if John Wayne was the first single for

457
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Speaker 1: it was yeah, I'm just john Wayne is a is

458
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Speaker 1: a stand up track from that album, completely agree, or

459
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Speaker 1: if Gypsy would have been the first one for art

460
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Speaker 1: pop see I think so maybe a problematic song now,

461
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Speaker 1: but at the time, I love Gypsy. I love it.

462
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Speaker 1: I love it. It really holds up and also like

463
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Speaker 1: Justice for g u I, which really has one of

464
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Speaker 1: the best music videos of all time, if no one

465
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Speaker 1: seems to care ahead of its time for having like

466
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Speaker 1: Beverly Hells Housewives play fucking lutes and ship and she's

467
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: she's like it's a wink. She's like, I wanted this

468
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: to be like obscenely funny. I wanted so dumb. And

469
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Speaker 1: she looks like Donna tell Of the whole time, and

470
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Speaker 1: she has that hair down to the ground she was

471
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Speaker 1: in Versachi adds at the time, yeah, it was so,

472
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,360
Speaker 1: but then people hated it. People just I think that

473
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Speaker 1: that was just the moment for Gaga, the whole art

474
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Speaker 1: pop era was just the moment where people were like, Okay,

475
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: we're ready to do the backlash because once things, it's like,

476
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Speaker 1: you know, I always say, whenever anything like really happens

477
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Speaker 1: and it's beloved, I feel bad for that person almost

478
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,719
Speaker 1: because it's like the backlash is coming. Remember that like

479
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Speaker 1: true year and a half long period where Jennifer Lawrence

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00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,719
Speaker 1: was everyone's favorite thing in the world. Now it's like

481
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: exactly pizza. It was like on accident Jill or whatever,

482
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 1: like that's like her essence. But now it's kind of

483
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Speaker 1: just like everyone's like, hell, Jennifer Lawrence like exhausted, right,

484
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: And it's like, well, she's truly the same person she was,

485
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 1: and if anything, she's kind of like, all right, well

486
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 1: then buy for a little bit. You guys are annoying

487
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: as what she's allowed to do. Schumer had a really

488
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Speaker 1: good I've out she had a really good interview I

489
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Speaker 1: think it was with Vogue and she like said that

490
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: because they were like, what does it feel like to

491
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: be at the top right now? And she was like, oh,

492
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 1: I give myself like two more weeks and like this

493
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 1: is what we do to women. We'll just like you're

494
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 1: gonna get sick of it and then everyone's gonna hate me.

495
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: And then the Leather Special came out, and she like

496
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Speaker 1: pretty much it was true what happened, like everyone came

497
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Speaker 1: for her, which I'm like, that is now. I see

498
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: it now that has been pointed out to me. I

499
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: see it with like every female and entertainment. Okay, yeah,

500
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: we really do do this, oh baby, she called the

501
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: about like the ideal woman. How we like the parameters

502
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: constantly shifts in our culture and then we'd like put

503
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Speaker 1: these people up on a pot of stol and then

504
00:27:56,040 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: immediately like getting coomfortable once they're up there too long. Yeah,

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00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 1: that's also how you knew for a fact that Lady

506
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Speaker 1: Gaga was not gonna win Best Actress and like a

507
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Speaker 1: stars born was not going to like succeed at the

508
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: Oscars and the way they all said it would, because

509
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Speaker 1: it was like, it's true. It feels like with Gaga,

510
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: we can only give her like public adoration for so

511
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 1: long until we have to say, well she's now she's

512
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: ridiculous exactly like and once the Italian interviews came out,

513
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 1: it was like, okay, yeah, we're done. I am constantly

514
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 1: turned by her. She's not put me off at once ever,

515
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 1: and lately she's been amazing. We quoted the tweep before

516
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Speaker 1: us word for word, this is it rumors that I'm pregnant. Yeah,

517
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: I'm pregnant with hashtag LGX. When I read it first,

518
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: I was like, is this like an ad for lg

519
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Speaker 1: Like I was waiting late. I was like, she's about

520
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: to draw, Like what? And then that can you eat

521
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: too much Chinese Brocoli? That's my favorite? What is fortnite?

522
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: I think that she took that tweet from me? I

523
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 1: say that once a day. Honestly, she's all, She's always

524
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: been all. But this is actually the thing about art

525
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: proper that nobody talks about. This is like actual investigative

526
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: journalism that I'm about to come on, Come on, Sonny.

527
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: There was there was a lot of reporting at the

528
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Speaker 1: time from this journalist that nobody knew her name was,

529
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: like I can say that she had like some like

530
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Speaker 1: made up Asian name like Julie Chung's. And then all

531
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: of these articles were coming out, all these headlines were

532
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: coming on, like this is the beginning of fake news

533
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: because and all these headlights come out that say Gaga's

534
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: sales tank for art Pop Gaga like blah blah blah blah,

535
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: like a million. Gaga wasted five million dollars on a

536
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: promotional camp whenever there's a headline and you really her

537
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: name is Gaga, like like like oh the Titanical sale

538
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: disease just disgusting. Um. But it was all this false

539
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: reporting about how poorly she was doing and how much

540
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: money she wasted on the on the promo, and then

541
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: she was out here being like, guys, this none of

542
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: this is true. And then she's like, my h and

543
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Speaker 1: m campaign is killing my Muppet special just fucking killed

544
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: me too, like filled with anger for this reporter because

545
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Speaker 1: I'm like I had to defend this was probably my

546
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: last Like by that time in college, it was done

547
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: pretending to be ye if I'm defending art pop that

548
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: for me. For me, it was Circus Pay Britney Spears.

549
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: That was like the album coming and I was so

550
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 1: excited for it. I was like, wait a minute, like

551
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: my sister and they're like staying up listening to leaks

552
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: like I gotta but with this ball the lights killed

553
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: the light and Lason Leathery never forgot um and oh

554
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: that whole album that's her best um like themes like

555
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: it is a full creative absolutely much like my favorite

556
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: cover as well. I love that. Well, there was a

557
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: time when like everyone Pink had fun House and Brittany

558
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: head circus. This is some Kelly Clarkson tea. They wanted

559
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: All I Ever wanted to be called Masquerade and she

560
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: was like, I'm not doing that because everyone is doing

561
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: some sort of thing when we were a mask and

562
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: attack Carney. Yeah, it's like Carney, and they wanted to

563
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: be called in fact that that like album art where

564
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: on all I Ever wanted, which is like that kind

565
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: of like bright colors, Like she wasn't supposed to be

566
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: like in a leather jacket on my cover. It was

567
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: supposed to be sort of like a masquerade moment. I

568
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: would love to see Kelly Clarkson in Masquerade Vegas. It's

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Speaker 1: coming Las Vegas, Honey. First you didn't know. I didn't know.

570
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: That's amazing we got this was just announced. Oh my god,

571
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: I didn't. She's like she has money. Kelly has never

572
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: been bigger. She's like before Ellen, which I had no idea.

573
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: She has the number four rated UM daytime daytime talk

574
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: show out of all thirteen that are on the only

575
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: people that are doing better than her, and this is

576
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: consistent ratings are Ellen, Kelly, and Ryan and then Dr Phil.

577
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: She does better than everyone else. She's doing better than Wendy.

578
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: What are they to What they're doing is having the

579
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: same audience they've had for a lot. I think there's

580
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: like Regis and Kathie Lee people that are still there. Yeah,

581
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: but basically I just just just yes, give your art part.

582
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: Well no it basically the people like dug Into like

583
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: this journalist and she doesn't exist. She does not exist.

584
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: Someone like there's like there was this little shadow campaign

585
00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: Russia Russia, Katie Perry stand people who like But but

586
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: the reason why those headlines were getting so much play

587
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: and the reason why the narrative became art prop as

588
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: a huge flop is because someone faked these numbers and

589
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: then like Perez Hilton would like retweet it, I know,

590
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: and there were people that, like I said, like, there

591
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: are people that are active in the backlash that want

592
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: that person to fail it. Also, I think something that

593
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: people forget is that Born this Way was huge. But

594
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why it moved so many copies

595
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: and because they sold them for like yes and so

596
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: they she sold like well over a million albums in

597
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: the first week of that um period, but it wasn't

598
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: because she was There was a reason for that, and

599
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: then so any anything she had done after that was

600
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: going to look in comparison like it wasn't as big.

601
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: And also it's hard to be to follow up anything

602
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: when you're the biggest pop start in the world. That's

603
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: I think why adult take such a long time. It's

604
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: like flawless Start is like I still listen to it

605
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: for like every show. I'm like, Monster should have been

606
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: a single. As as much as I would say, as

607
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: much as I love art pop and Joanna, I've loved

608
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: all the eras. I've enjoyed all the eras, but you

609
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: and this is we have to say her name. Lorianne

610
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: Gibson is do a lot of credit for the choreography,

611
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: the iconography, the art direction, the creative direction of Gaga

612
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: in those early days. Oh I mean that video, but

613
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: yeah it is lorian Yeah, yeah, yeah, Oh my god.

614
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: And honestly, maybe that she would be nice to have

615
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: on the pop because you know what else, I fell

616
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: into a wormhole. I fell into a right, I don't know.

617
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: I think she's very busy and successful, but I fell

618
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 1: into a sick wormhole. Recently of making the band clips,

619
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: and she would day, I got something for you. The

620
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: scene in the boardroom when Diddy is breaking up the

621
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 1: band and he's like, I don't your attitude and you're

622
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: out and it's like the soundtracks and it's like close

623
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 1: and he was like, okay, cool, I respect your decision.

624
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: I respect that, And then the rest of the girls

625
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: are like, well, I don't know, and he would just like, well,

626
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: I'm going to leave too, and they go and she

627
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 1: and he turned down and he's like, okay, well you

628
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 1: can leave too if you want to leave. She goes, okay,

629
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: I respect your decision, and the three other ones are like, wait,

630
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: hold on, um, I don't think we're a group if

631
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: they leave, like, well, your girls are making their decisions,

632
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: so what And then they'll leave and you get an

633
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: acapella version of Dammaged Damage, damnaged glad you wait? That

634
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: was like spun on? How did you? Yeah? I had

635
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: a little spin there yet, but looking very nervous. What

636
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: does this have to do with Lorianne? She wasn't there

637
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 1: at the time, and she she had come and gone

638
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 1: out of making the band. I was just commenting that

639
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: I had fallen into making the band worm Hole. Then

640
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: I like, as of last week, okay, wow, because I

641
00:35:58,239 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 1: haven't seen it since it was like literally on it.

642
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,439
Speaker 1: It's a trip to watch. Is each one? Is that MTV?

643
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: It was empty V Great Town was sucking obset with

644
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: that album. Oh yeah, Liquidquid Dreams, gene Bags, a mix

645
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: of destinies chat with Janet Jackson, Jennifer you got the

646
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: seas But you know that song is actually the perfect

647
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 1: song that that's in the closet, Bob because it's like

648
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: all these their destiny. Yeah, oh we love share missed

649
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: this album? Did I miss this album? Was? I think

650
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 1: you're just a touch younger than us? Maybe it was

651
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 1: true micro generational maybe? Okay, wait, is this the first Danity?

652
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: This is the first making the band band? Okay, yeah,

653
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 1: Danity Kane, I mean Danity King Girls too. But oh

654
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: Town was lemonade? Yeah, Oh Town was the first one.

655
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: And then I think that he made like a rap

656
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: group or attempted to make a rap group. Oh did

657
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 1: he did? Yes? Because I remember there was there was

658
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: one female rapper named Mysterious that I was like enamored with,

659
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: and then she kind of like went somewhere else and

660
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: that that group didn't happen, but Dannity Kine obviously happened.

661
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 1: They had some hit songs like show Stop her, show

662
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: Stopping that video, and then just they gave everyone wrong girl.

663
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: That's my favorite. Every girl has the wrong verse, like

664
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: she should have another one, and that's why it's perfect.

665
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: Like I remember there's the one, um, so there's Aubrey,

666
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: and then there was another like very blonde. Yeah, and

667
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 1: she looked like the girl from America's Next Time all

668
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: season two. Um, and she has like the rap songs

669
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 1: like she's a love it and it's like, no, that

670
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: wasn't her at all, but love it, but she delivered.

671
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 1: I wish. Here's the thing though, I think Andrea was

672
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: probably the best singer de Woods had had like it.

673
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: Dawn is releasing music sort of now. Dawn is out

674
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 1: there releasing music, and Aubrey is of course out there

675
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: saying that her soulmate is Donald Trump Jr. She's the

676
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 1: best stand good time. I was just like, she's just

677
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: she's clearly the star star. When she was on Celebrity Apprentice,

678
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: she was very good and yes I absolutely watched, yes,

679
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I mean Bowen Yang is a famous early

680
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. I love Donald Trump. No, I kind of agree.

681
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: During the first season of The Apprentice, I was like,

682
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: this is fantastic. I was like, I was really into it.

683
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: There was like one guy from Boise on its town hero.

684
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: There you wait, speking of hometown speaking ab upbringings. Let's

685
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: ask me the question. It's time to ask the question. Okay, Skinner,

686
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: what is the culture that made you stay? Culture is

687
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: for me, like this is formative, something formative that like

688
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: you grew up with that you saw. I could be

689
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 1: like something as broad in general as pop stars or

690
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 1: he's gonna be absolutely um. I think watching music video

691
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 1: like was a defining thing for me, like on Saturday

692
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: and Sunday mornings, and like the Lucky video is so

693
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: like in my mind, so I happened in my show,

694
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: Like I just always think about it. So I think

695
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: like music videos of that kind of like you know,

696
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: mid to late nineties, early two thousands era, it was

697
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 1: like very much my start. And I mean Brittany was

698
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 1: like my first pop star. Britney was your girl, like

699
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: went and oops I did again. I remember the copy

700
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 1: there was a scratch on it, like I mean just

701
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: Psycho ship. I remember the store I bought. Oops, I

702
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: did it again and maybe one more time. Yeah, I remember,

703
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 1: like it was like Sam Good or it was like

704
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: a virgin reference store. But I remember, I remember like

705
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: that was like iconic time when you get in the

706
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 1: car and go to the store and buy the album.

707
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, day of or maybe your parents were picking

708
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: up at Costco. That was huge. And then so much

709
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 1: cardboard for no reason because they wanted it to be

710
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: like remember that, like all the cardboard and sometimes they

711
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 1: would like decorate it. So I saved the Britney cardboard forever.

712
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: I had all the dolls like it was. I think

713
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:21,879
Speaker 1: that was like my first Yeah, that was my first

714
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: like entrance. And then as far as like shows, it

715
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: was like Lizzie McGuire, right, so it's like this is

716
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: so written, like the stories are all so good. Did

717
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: you did you think that when Hillary Duff like started

718
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: to do music, because there was a big narrative at

719
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 1: the time of like Hillary Duff is the next Britney Spears.

720
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: Did you see that for her? No? I never saw

721
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 1: that for her, but I loved her music. I thought

722
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: Metamorphosis was Metamorphois. Making Larry Owens sing that song on

723
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,720
Speaker 1: was like I mean yeah. I think a little painful

724
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: for him, but it's okay. Yeah, yeah, I think probably

725
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: his enemy, not his favorite pop star by any means.

726
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: I saw her. She was my first concert though. I

727
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 1: remember going. She didn't really have any like she was

728
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 1: just wearing a black tank top, black jeans and a ponytail.

729
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: And I was like, Okay, she's not this isn't like,

730
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: you know, she's going to do the theatrics, which is

731
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: what I like show. So it's like, you know, she's

732
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: just this is like a fun side thing. First, she's

733
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: an actress. She's an actress. Yeah, but I loved you know,

734
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: I bought Speak Now. I even still Taylor. I'm like, no, no, no, no, wait,

735
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: speak Now by Hillary Hillary. That's like one of her

736
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: albums now or is it Speaking? It's it's it's like

737
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 1: something like that Speak. It might just be called Speak.

738
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: I think it Speak yea yeah, And I remember like

739
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: the cover and that's when she um those were I

740
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: feel like her Veneers all the time. Look, we we

741
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 1: saw a couple of years ago at Tribeca Film Festival.

742
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 1: She was the only celebrity we interviewed her, and she

743
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: was one of the only celebrities that that gave us

744
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: a h I don't know what she famously has. You're

745
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: gonna do something. I'm going to speak was Lindsay Elhan?

746
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: What's her metamorphosis? Breathe and breathe out dignity Hi self

747
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: titled Most Wanted is the greatest and absolutely she's like

748
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: two albums out this Linday Lohan ALBUMSKA Speak and then

749
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 1: her second album, of course, the a little more personal

750
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,399
Speaker 1: in parentheses raw Yeah yeah, yeah yeah video where she's

751
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: a father. Remember watching that being there is belting happening

752
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: and that she was blond? Yeah she was. I was

753
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 1: always so mad. It's like such a I was always

754
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: so mad when they changed hair colors, like when Brittany was,

755
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: I would just be it would ruin my week, which

756
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: is probably why Brittany has to work so hard, you know,

757
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 1: like poor Brittany. But I'm like, like I remember in

758
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: the Blackout when I saw the cover, I was like, oh,

759
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: They're not it. I was so mad the same and

760
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 1: then it took me a little bit to like get

761
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 1: over that hump and be like, oh wait, this is

762
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: an incredible album. Album is flawless. I frequently reread the

763
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: Rolling Stone review of it. Because they're like, wait, it's

764
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 1: actually so good and there's a great moment and break

765
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: the ice where it's clear that she's just hearing the

766
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 1: song for the first time, I think, and it's like, wait,

767
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: she definitely said that the first time. They did it,

768
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 1: and it's just oh, it's just like the whole album.

769
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: They essentially just gave these producers like Free Reign. They

770
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,439
Speaker 1: were like, whatever you want, just don't bring up what's

771
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 1: going on with her, and they did it. It was

772
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,720
Speaker 1: Danger Danger Shellback who writes all of Taylor Swift's new stuff,

773
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: and Dr Luke that was like document the first big No,

774
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: it's it's whatever. But he touched to Charlie's Angels soundtrack.

775
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: I just saw that just well, just honestly, this is

776
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: something that bothers me on a regular basis that if

777
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: Kim Petris is on it, then Dru probably is not

778
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: far behind, which it's rough. I think it's I think

779
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: it's it's a thing about Kim that sucks. Yeah, how

780
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 1: is he still? Like where is he working from? I'm

781
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: just like he's he's it doesn't matter where he's working for,

782
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: He's just working. And she's still Yeah. I'm like, I

783
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: just picture him in like a game like they sent him,

784
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 1: you know, the vocals, and then he because Kesh is

785
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: still like it's still on that on that contract, and

786
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 1: she do like like two more albums before she's it's

787
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: something like that, how is the new stuff? I haven't

788
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: heard it yet. It's like she's back to making like

789
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: skank pop. Yeah. I mean the country stuff was like fun,

790
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: but I'm not a country guy, so I was like,

791
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 1: I like TikTok. Yeah, I mean I really loved her

792
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: first two albums. I mean, and how could you not?

793
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: But but because Cannibal, it was like, this is just

794
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: how would she beat the first one? She No, she

795
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: did it. I was just gonna say, I think Blow

796
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: is my favorite team of hers outside of um, Your

797
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: Love is My Drug. Your Love is My Drug is

798
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: like geniusly written. It's like it's perfect not to sit

799
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: here and continue to stand like Dr Luke Rain thing

800
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: he's a monster and shouldn't be around. But now those

801
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: I'm happy that she's back to doing music like that.

802
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 1: Although I did love um Praying and I did I

803
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: really love Woman. Yeah. I also, um, I do like

804
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: that one. It's like this funny get him yeah, yeah, yeah,

805
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: I can't help it. I heard it. I heard it

806
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: first on Instagram with like in a Spotify video, and

807
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,879
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, this is getting it, Like it's

808
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 1: great like this one yeah, j yes, tonic vocal delivery

809
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 1: of has that praying note? Has that ever been hit live?

810
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: I'm still I don't think she attempts it. Okay, and

811
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 1: this actually this, this hints it's crazy. I don't think.

812
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Honey later has to deal with

813
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: musical notes that people cannot hit. Love that. I'm very

814
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 1: excited to do it. Yeah, that's unfortunately one of them

815
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: will imagine like I'm still waiting, but I will say that, like,

816
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,439
Speaker 1: I guess that is a reason why I appreciate Ariana Grande,

817
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: because I do miss when these girls could fucking really

818
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: I felt that ship. The runs a very on a Grande.

819
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: I'm mostly a stand of the runs. The runs, especially

820
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 1: on her Christmas songs. Her last Christmas is like and

821
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: then again it's like goes everywhere and it's good exactly.

822
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: She just goes her concert when she was just touring. No,

823
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: I'm so sad I didn't the tickets were. She was

824
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 1: proud of that. Goddamn I dropped. I dropped dollars and

825
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: cents to see that. But I will say the live

826
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 1: vocals were real. Yeah. I even heard her sing seven Rings,

827
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 1: and I'm not thinking that's a song that's going to

828
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: sound good live. Like I remember when Lady Gaga did

829
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 1: like Judas live Yes and No, and I'm like, Okay,

830
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: that's not it, Like that just will never sound good live.

831
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: But she can't even sing seven rings and make it

832
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,879
Speaker 1: sound good like damn because it's damn Rogerson Hammerstein. Honey, Yeah,

833
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 1: she's made a cent on that song. Yeah. I think

834
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: they just are like sure, like we get and they're

835
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: having a moment right now Rogers and Hammerstein. But truly

836
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 1: they're having them on right now Rogers, but truly, Like Chance,

837
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 1: the rapper has this song where it's his daughter singing

838
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: Impossible from Cinderella and then he like samples Impossible Yeah,

839
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 1: and then it's a uh oh, Zanies and Fools that's

840
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: what it's called. Like this, the track is called Zany's

841
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: and Fools where it's like pulled from them like that song.

842
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: It's like people are like rediscovering there's a revival of

843
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: Rogerson Hammerstein. That's like Oklahoma, like like it's happening. Well,

844
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 1: you know there's I'm not lying. No, no, you're not lying.

845
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: You know that there's going to be a new Cinderella

846
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: with Camilla Cabello. Yeah, absolutely, And I heard you know

847
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 1: who I heard is in talks to play the Wicked Stepmother.

848
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: Tell us it's in the Menzel stop and I know

849
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: he's a godmother. And I'll see you in a little

850
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,399
Speaker 1: while from my I don't think so, honey. I'll see

851
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 1: you in a little walk Dana Mizzella, I'll see you

852
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 1: and I'll see you in just in about twenty minutes.

853
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 1: Oh okay, Wow, that's gonna be. I don't know if

854
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: I needed it under another Cinderella right now, but okay,

855
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 1: I'm like in for that. I heard it's going to

856
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: be a very Camilla Cinderella. Oh god, just what I wanted. Yeah, see,

857
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 1: I am sure about it. That's the one I like.

858
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 1: And I liked her fake beef with Laana. That was

859
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: my favorite was the fake beef. So Laana commented what

860
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: the hell on one of her videos, and so she

861
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: meant like, what the hell? This is amazing? Yeah yeah,

862
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 1: and then everybody because the video did look a lot

863
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: like Laana is like, and so everyone's like, oh my god,

864
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 1: Laana is coming for this, la is going to kill

865
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: Like it was my favorite. That's so so that was

866
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: like my big Camilla moment. I keep the give out.

867
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the hell, I've been experiencing a lot

868
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 1: of Camilla lately. I've been liking her new stuff. I've

869
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 1: been discussing it. But to cry for Me, and then, um,

870
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 1: what's the other one? Easy? Easy? She's put that like

871
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: a little army of singles out like that's sort of

872
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 1: like EP but not yeah, which I don't know if

873
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: I like that. I'm like, I like the one, give

874
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: me one, let me have a moment when she's got speechless, liar, easy,

875
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: and cry for Me. Those are the four. So he's

876
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,399
Speaker 1: and of course the song with the send to read

877
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: a song with Sean. Right on the topic of these

878
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 1: beefs though, it's this is they're so delicate. We're in

879
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 1: a really fragile place right now. Because remember when like

880
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 1: people saw like Casey Musgraves like to tweet that was

881
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,919
Speaker 1: like dunking on Taylor Swift and everyone and everyone flipped out.

882
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 1: And then she was like she was like and then

883
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: Casey tweets my Twitter got hated Lie so and she's

884
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: love I love a shitty Lie and she's like and

885
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 1: then me and Taylor just top on the phone and

886
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: we're good. So guys like stand down. But it was

887
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: like people just people are insane. People are insane. Fans

888
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: are particularly pretty. I mean, I'm I'm I'm dating one

889
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: of them. Yeah, it's just and I'm definitely one of

890
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: the more cycle like that one. But I am gonna

891
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 1: I am gonna out him right now. I'm in the

892
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: out Jared right now because literally, like, um, I think

893
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 1: the Charlie x X album came out. He was like,

894
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: so with Jared, it's like everything is so he hates

895
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: Charlie because of what Charlie. He absolutely loves Charlie. We

896
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: even want to go see Charlie's concert and she was

897
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: everyone was apparently she had like the whole album. It

898
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 1: was great. Kim was there too, features the house. She

899
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: was performing at High Tops right now. Probably yeah, she's

900
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 1: actually as she performs, like to a point where I'm like,

901
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:51,879
Speaker 1: you're a robot. There's Kis and every major in the world.

902
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: She always looks perfect, truly, and also the live vocals

903
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 1: there there there they hit, they hit hard. She is

904
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,399
Speaker 1: her tits off when you see it hard to break.

905
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, bitch, it was her like, um,

906
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: why am I forgetting that? You know? She it was

907
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: like part two of her coming back on stage. Why

908
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 1: am I forgetting that? Term the rprise? Okay, lord m

909
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: She goes back and she like still had it. And

910
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're just saying, you know, forty songs that

911
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 1: are all similarly hard scenes. They're all pop songs. But

912
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: um wait, I want to out Jared. I want to

913
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: say he started to stand this Charlie x X album.

914
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: This is like three weeks after Lover had come out,

915
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 1: and we had I hadn't been with him through the

916
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: whole process, and like it was a process. It was

917
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 1: for Taylor Swift fans, and it was difficult for them.

918
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: After me, I know, it's been hard. It's it's not

919
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: been the oh my god, it's not been nineteen that

920
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: I think they thought it would be. But so Charlie

921
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 1: x X album came out and he couldn't stop talking

922
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: about it, and I said, but Jared, what about Lover?

923
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,760
Speaker 1: And he just turns to me and then the darkest

924
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 1: voice I've ever heard of us. He goes fuck lover

925
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: like I only had to grab my heart and I

926
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I was like, that was so busy,

927
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 1: was throbbing. I was like, I have never I don't

928
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: even feel that way about it. But he was like,

929
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 1: I'm over it. And then I feel like because I

930
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:27,399
Speaker 1: feel a lot of Taylor stands were a little exhausted

931
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: trying to pretend this album was as good as those

932
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: that have preceded it. I think they're I think I've

933
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 1: said this on the pod, but I think there's a

934
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: twelve song album in there that's good, but just too long,

935
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: you know. But her, some of her fans want that,

936
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 1: like the sixteen year old girls in Atlanta and like

937
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:48,800
Speaker 1: they want a fort I guess my question, my question,

938
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 1: does she still have those teen fans? I think she absolutely? Yeah,

939
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 1: I think she does absolutely, she like has her and

940
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 1: Miley do for an Arianna, But then no one else

941
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: from like our I believe in from Marianna because I'm

942
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: telling you, I was at an Arianna concert and it

943
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 1: was all gay men and six year old girls. Yeah

944
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: she got gen z. Yeah she's got them. She's got

945
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 1: gen z. But it's it's like it's like it's like Disney.

946
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: It's like kids still watch Little Mermaid. Let's say, like

947
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: like like movies that we thought were specific to our

948
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:21,800
Speaker 1: upbringings in terms of timing. Now it's like it's like

949
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: she she has perennial songs about adolescence that like everyone

950
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: can relate to. Taylor Taylor, Yeah, yeah, because I do

951
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: feel like this album is the first one that's like

952
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,399
Speaker 1: really tried to be mature, and I feel like she's

953
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:36,800
Speaker 1: even hinting at like I'm going to marry you in

954
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: these kinds of songs and not an acute like person way.

955
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 1: It's like, let's make a commitment and invest in investing

956
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 1: things together, and we're gonna have the same bank account.

957
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: It's like things that like kids aren't going to get

958
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 1: and I don't think that is sort of too far

959
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,280
Speaker 1: removed from the reason why I don't think this album

960
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: has yeah, significant impact. It doesn't have legs. I mean, London,

961
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: boy is tough. I can't anytime I went to London

962
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 1: with my boyfriend and I couldn't. I couldn't stop saying

963
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: it ruined the trap, like anytime they were rude, because

964
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 1: everyone in London is so rude. This guy's start weeks

965
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: just could not stop making fun of me for my

966
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:26,359
Speaker 1: order because I like drink a milkshake essentially hold my hand. Yeah,

967
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: I saw you and she was like, it's so good

968
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 1: to see someone like later in the day, so real.

969
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: But no, it would just be like this guy kept

970
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: giving ship and then right when we walked out of

971
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: the cafe, I just had to look at him and

972
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: child of English. But that is not where the most

973
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 1: embarrassing song on the album for me, for me and

974
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:49,959
Speaker 1: for me, it's got to be that fucking Big Little

975
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: Lies theme knockoff, which is it's nice to have a friend. Oh,

976
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: I kind of find myself being like that's really cute.

977
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: No way, that album is tough freaking I loved reputation

978
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:05,800
Speaker 1: and I was only fucking bops like dress is the

979
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: first time she got fucked dress dressing, um even gorgeous

980
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: is like this is I'm like my delicates a classic,

981
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 1: yea delicates a classic and also endgame is my fucking

982
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 1: like my song I'm big. When she brought in like

983
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 1: a kid's choir to say big even like I remember

984
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: when look what made you? Look What You Made Me do?

985
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 1: Came out, I was like, fuck this and now I'm

986
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,280
Speaker 1: kind of like, then you saw the video. The second

987
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,879
Speaker 1: video came out, I was like, oh yeah, I didn't

988
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: think there was much new in the video, but it

989
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 1: was a lot. I was like, she's trying, and I'm

990
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: like kind of down the bridge where all the old

991
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 1: like the all the old tailors are climbing that. I'm like,

992
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: how the fund did you make this? It was more like, damn,

993
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 1: you really went to the lab and you're like, we're

994
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 1: spent ten million dollars right now on this song. That's

995
00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: definitely shouldn't be first single, but let's do this. I

996
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 1: also love the single she Can't help It. This is okay,

997
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 1: But you brought up something earlier that I love, like

998
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 1: single order, single order, hypothetical single orders, like let's talk

999
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 1: about never been chosen by a game man, and I

1000
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 1: know that we'd be right, Like I just know that

1001
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 1: in my heart. But it's like, this is a this

1002
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,280
Speaker 1: is just a game that you can play at party's now, okay,

1003
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: this is this is the new star actress. Everybody, let's

1004
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: do one. Okay, Yeah, Aly, like here's my here's my

1005
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: thing with lover because me we can all agree with

1006
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 1: not it and even you need to come down from

1007
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 1: me is like, actually, I kind of like it as

1008
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 1: a second single. But here's the thing. I think when

1009
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 1: you listen to the album Lover, I understand that you

1010
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 1: want to give them something like up tempo, but represent

1011
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: the album. And so my thing is, I think the

1012
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 1: best song on Lover that is the most emblematic of

1013
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 1: Lover is Lover. And so I would have put Lover

1014
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: out as the first single. I think everyone would have

1015
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 1: been like, oh, this is a different direction, and for her,

1016
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: I'm into it. Yeah. That being said, I also think

1017
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 1: my favorite song on the whole album I don't know

1018
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 1: if it should have been the first single, but my

1019
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 1: first favorite song on the album is I Think he Knows?

1020
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, yeah yeah, what do you think? The

1021
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 1: Man is here? Here's here's my three man. The Man

1022
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 1: is great. It's tough to hear, but it's good. Agree

1023
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 1: with you, Lover, Cruel Summer, and then you need to

1024
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 1: calm down. As third single, maybe when you now that

1025
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: we're talking about the Man, don't you think it would

1026
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: be a little on the nose, like, oh, she's releasing

1027
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 1: this song as the first single, But I bet it

1028
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 1: would have been a huge hit. Huge, especially with a

1029
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 1: good video, and especially I mean she knows what she's

1030
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: doing though, because when it came out, I like all

1031
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 1: of the Leo articles came out Once upon a Time

1032
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: in Hollywood came out like right with it, so it's

1033
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 1: like everyone's like she's jabbing at Leo and she got

1034
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 1: so much press, so like she's just kind of always knows,

1035
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: like once she leaves a song, that's going to get

1036
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 1: press essentially. So I don't know, I yeah, I agree

1037
00:57:58,000 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 1: that Lover should have been the first single because I

1038
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 1: think a lot of people were, like the people who

1039
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: didn't listen to the non singles of reputation, We're like, Okay,

1040
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 1: she's not the Taylor I grew up with. Yeah, so

1041
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 1: I think it would have been a good like no, like,

1042
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 1: she can still do this and it is a beautiful

1043
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 1: song and I love the video. I think that would

1044
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 1: have been a nice start. Me was like it's awful, honey. Um.

1045
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 1: I listened to it every now and then and I'm like, oh, yeah,

1046
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,439
Speaker 1: well she took out this spelling is fun part, which

1047
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 1: I love that. I'm just like, oh god, Taylor's I

1048
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 1: just have the tightest butthole when I listen to that. Yeah,

1049
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 1: I mean, like you're panic at the disco in this song,

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00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 1: like keep that at that point. But yeah, yeah, a

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00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 1: weird feature as well. I don't know if I love

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00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 1: a first single as you love him. I just don't know. Ye, yeah,

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00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:51,919
Speaker 1: a feature on the first single is a weird move.

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00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 1: It's strange. Yeah, I'm like that maybe is more of

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Speaker 1: like a second single or I just don't think that

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00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: song is a single. But um, but yeah, I mean,

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00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 1: and I also like their voices together. Yeah, I just

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00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 1: would prefer it to just as like a song in

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00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 1: the album. Yeah, yeah, sure, I would agree. Yeah, just

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Speaker 1: do it for a one more album. What had a

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00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 1: flop first single? Oh, let's do it for let's well not.

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Speaker 1: I don't consider it a flop at all, but I

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Speaker 1: guess because we were talking about it before. Let's talk

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00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 1: about Joanne's preferred delusion. I like, but I do. I

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00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 1: think John Wayne is an interest scared people. I think

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00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 1: perfect Delusion scared people. Yeah, yeah it was too and

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00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 1: then it wasn't actually like what the album felt like

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Speaker 1: at all. So I think my choice is either John

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Speaker 1: Wayne or I low key love Come to Mama, Come Tom.

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Speaker 1: But I think you know the thing is that I'm insane. No,

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00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 1: I think I think John Wayne just because of that video.

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00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 1: I think it's like it really is like she is

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00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: going for this like Western Americana thing, so like I

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00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 1: want to see her fully commit the first single, it's

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00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: what the album feels like. I do love Million Reasons

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00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 1: as a second single, Million Reasons, second single, John Wayne,

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Speaker 1: Million Reasons, and then third honestly bumping up from bonus

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01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 1: track Creature Girls, which I know is like to Low

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01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 1: Temple Girls. I really do love that album. It's a

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Speaker 1: great album. It's a great album. I didn't I don't

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01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 1: love the cover, but that's okay. I do love the cover,

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Speaker 1: like I think, I'm like almost do. I just think

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01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 1: it's like a little I don't know, it's a little tweet,

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01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 1: it's a little like yeah, I just wanted like a

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01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 1: little bit more. I just I don't know with her.

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01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 1: You know, do you consider Stars Born to be a

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01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 1: gotta album? I do? I gotta ep sure, Yeah, Yeah,

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01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 1: I don't like it. I would say it's an era,

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01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 1: not an album. I agree, maybe it's definitely an era.

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01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 1: The true like Monsters they say era, they say like

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01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 1: Stars They're like, well, if you guys like the best

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01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 1: of this era, like Stan Instagram is. I tried that

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01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 1: with Kelly. I was like I was like welcome and

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01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 1: I was like no, but there are definitely something that

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01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 1: are like welcome, brother is It's time. But I love

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01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 1: the Alley tracks, like I feel like that. I mean,

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01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 1: like the Cure is, they're all just trying to be cool.

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01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 1: This song in my head, I'm not mad. Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: whole Yeah, it's just perfect. It's like nice to not

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01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 1: that She's like I'm just gonna make pop. Yeah, and

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01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 1: I feel like she hasn't just like done that without

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01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 1: like it can be almost bad, which I think a

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01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 1: lot of great pop is like almost bad. So she

1104
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 1: with Ali, she was able to write pop music in

1105
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 1: a very abstract way where like it didn't matter. Just

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01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 1: write a write a good fassimile of a song. That's

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Speaker 1: that's all that to me. Come on, I mean first

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01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 1: that we were like it's smarty, like watching the movie

1109
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 1: and them trying to tell you that like she's gone bad,

1110
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 1: when I'm like, oh, this is absolutely at all. Yeah,

1111
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 1: Like she just really fucking she got a Grammy. I'm like,

1112
01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 1: she didn't sell out, She's she has that bad red hair,

1113
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 1: like fucking healthy as fun and then they're like, we're

1114
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 1: gonna bring her out. She's gonna she gave her the

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Speaker 1: Grammy in the right. How great, God, how great? My

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01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 1: biggest regret um when Halsey hosted, I wrote for her,

1117
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 1: how great Ali sketch that just tanked it table. It

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01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 1: was just her like on set and like her having

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01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 1: to like her like butchering the I love that. You know,

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Speaker 1: no one got no Everyone's like, why is this? Like,

1121
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 1: oh my god? The table? Did she like it? She

1122
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 1: like I pitched her on Tuesday and she was like

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01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 1: that's really funny. Yeah. I was like I was like,

1124
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 1: you know that like gay people are upset, like or

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01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 1: specifically like film Twitter and like stand Twitter like loves

1126
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 1: that moment, right. She's like, oh yeah, I gotta get it.

1127
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 1: I totally gets She was great and then and like

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Speaker 1: you know, went over with her. She like did what

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01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 1: she had to do at the table. But everyone was like,

1130
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 1: what the fuck? It's actually really culture at number seventy

1131
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 1: six what she had to do out of the table anyway,

1132
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 1: is it? How do I say? Am I saying it wrong?

1133
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 1: I'm kind of like I just I'm like, fully trusting

1134
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 1: you and that I'm like, oh, I've been spending her

1135
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 1: this whole Halsey. Do you know it's pronounced Charlie before

1136
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 1: we move on? I don't think so. I do want

1137
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 1: to ask, but you know, do you do how much

1138
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 1: research do you do for each astrological sign before you? Oh? Well,

1139
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 1: some I know a little bit better than I knew

1140
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 1: ours the most obviously so corpse, and that was just

1141
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 1: going to make that I love scorps Thank you. Do

1142
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 1: you feel that way? I do feel that way. Do

1143
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 1: you feel I feel that I'm not spook yoki? Yeah,

1144
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 1: but no exactly what we're supposed to be, like a character. Yeah,

1145
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 1: it's so funny. Yeah, but there were some that I

1146
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 1: knew a little bit just because friends, I feel like,

1147
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if you feel this way, but I

1148
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:05,479
Speaker 1: just know so many cancers as a Scorpio, I feel

1149
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 1: that exactly. So I feel like that connection is what

1150
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,959
Speaker 1: almost like sold me on astrology, because I did notice

1151
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 1: that all the people around me were like Pisces, cancers

1152
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 1: and aries like everything. Oh that's interesting, and an occasional

1153
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 1: Gemini went, yeah, I know, I love it. And I'm

1154
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 1: shocked though, because I don't think a lot of Pisces

1155
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 1: are like big performers. I think that's literally literally next album,

1156
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 1: but I don't They're not usually as like extroverted. They're

1157
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 1: more sensitive and artistic. Yeah, exactly, like quiet, creativity and interesting.

1158
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 1: I wonder if it's maybe my cancer moon. Yeah. See

1159
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 1: that's where I think like a lot of like random

1160
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 1: things come from. But I don't even I don't that.

1161
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 1: I start to get confused. What is your what is

1162
01:04:55,120 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 1: your whole deal? Okay? So I'm well, it's a great

1163
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 1: time to be getting So I believe I am Scorpio,

1164
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 1: and then I'm a Capricorn rising, Gemini moon, Gemini, Gemini moone.

1165
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 1: There's like a lot happening here. Yeah, twisting combo, right,

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01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:20,959
Speaker 1: I think that means that I'm a Gemini moon Okay,

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01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 1: Scorpius son Um Libra rising, Okay, I'm Pisces, Pisces rising,

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01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 1: and my moon is cancer. Okay, I'm water water water

1169
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 1: and the rest of my chart is dripping wet, just sing.

1170
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 1: So I'm talking so absolutely, I'm like fucking um uh,

1171
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 1: I'm sucking um. Kate Bosworth when she sees Josh Dumel

1172
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 1: and when the date Hamilton's when a date when a

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01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:52,920
Speaker 1: date Hamilton's stick to her in Blue Crush, So I

1174
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 1: was just ready to be like, can we talk about

1175
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 1: Blue Crush? Crush her eyes? She's gorgeous, She's a gorgeous star.

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01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 1: She only had to be in like three things and

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01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 1: now she's just like at fashion shows, which I love

1178
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 1: that career path for a lot of people. It's so efficient.

1179
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 1: It's so efficient. And never forget her as the racist girlfriend.

1180
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:16,439
Speaker 1: And remember the Titans, right, literally, never are you hanging

1181
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 1: out with those black people? Are you doing this? She

1182
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 1: ran Gosling's No, she's she's the quarterback who gets hit

1183
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 1: by the sorry spoiler he remember remember that we no

1184
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 1: longer have to watch that movie now that we're out. Yeah,

1185
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 1: it was so hard. Literally remember being in the theater

1186
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 1: being like no, exactly, I'm like, are we getting out

1187
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 1: of here and going to a chili? Yeah? It's like

1188
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 1: Track and Night at Red Robin. But literally I was like,

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01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 1: who's that icont A girl playing the racist girl friend?

1190
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 1: That impression again? Why are you hanging out with those

1191
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 1: black people? Come all, let's go, we gotta go drink

1192
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 1: in the parking lot. I love like actresses like that

1193
01:06:56,320 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 1: being like racist Southern in Hidden Figures, Hidden Figures, It's like, what, like, Okay,

1194
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 1: bry Styles Howard and The Help being like a plan,

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01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 1: they just they overacted, which is always like I love

1196
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 1: any anyone who just willingly just brings forth a raised eyebrow.

1197
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fucking fuck it up. Damn, oh god. Bryce

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01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 1: styles Howard in The Help opposite Octavia is perfect, especially

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01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 1: my ship, and I think Jessica Chastin is perfect in

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01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 1: that heartbreaking on Jessica. Yeah, and also you know, of

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01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 1: course we have Viola. Of course fun and U with

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01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 1: the curls Ring, Little Ring, Little Curly bring the culture

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01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:49,479
Speaker 1: one of my favorites. Have you lost your mind? Yeah?

1204
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 1: Sh no, good for nothing. But I stand Bryce styles

1205
01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 1: Howard world. We have a lot, we have a lot

1206
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 1: of fun with Bryce Dallas on this show. But she

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01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 1: does what she has to do. And the first one,

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01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 1: essentially with that stupid haircut, I put her in that

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01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 1: it's instantly that I will never I'll never let it go.

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01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 1: That the second movie they took her out of this shoe. No,

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01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:19,800
Speaker 1: they and the whole joke was like she's not rain heels.

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01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 1: The whole time, I'm like, no, she needs to the character.

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01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 1: It's like, you know what, this is where you lost

1214
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 1: the gays and this reason reason shoe only watching on

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01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 1: an airplane. They put her in a sensible shoe and

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01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:36,919
Speaker 1: they pulled her hair out of her face. Big mistake.

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01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:40,120
Speaker 1: Big mistake, because it's not like we didn't see her

1218
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 1: out run the t Rex in the first movie, so

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01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 1: we know she doesn't need to wear the flats. Okay,

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01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 1: those little doctor and actress also not for nothing. But

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Speaker 1: she gives you an iconic single tear when the Dominus

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01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:58,519
Speaker 1: Rex has its maw next to the car and she

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01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 1: turns to the camera and she just gives you one

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01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 1: tier and one tier only. And I just did it

1225
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 1: in the room. I just cried one tier immediately, like

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Speaker 1: Selina anders, we bring it back, that one tier. You've

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01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 1: got to have that one tier. Although Constant s Wu

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01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 1: has fifty in hustlers. I'm like, literally, I'm like, wait,

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01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:23,720
Speaker 1: don't cry anymore. I can't. It's and the way it

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01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 1: was coming out was like not natural. I was like looking,

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01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 1: I know, and her face just still looked perfect though,

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01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:32,600
Speaker 1: which I'm like, is that really crying? I guess some

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01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:34,639
Speaker 1: people look like that. When she did give you an iconic,

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01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 1: single tier and crazy rich Asians. She did, she did?

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01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 1: Wait was the scene, stunning wedding scene, the wedding. Oh,

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01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 1: the wedding scene. I just got chills sticking watch it again.

1237
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 1: The one iconic movie. And so when is when is

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01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 1: the next one coming? I don't know, but we gotta

1239
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 1: get you in for some we gotta get you in

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01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 1: that simply for some reason, they're not like rushing it,

1241
01:09:57,360 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 1: like I feel like they would just on anything that

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01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 1: does really where they're like, we're making every Twilight movie

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01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 1: in the next three months. They are Russian because they're

1244
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:08,640
Speaker 1: shooting the sequels back to back, but they always do

1245
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 1: that with the suit and it's like, okay, no, just

1246
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 1: like Avatar. Yeah, yeah, like Avatar. There's twelve avatars that

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01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:17,720
Speaker 1: we have not seen. Are you an Avatar person? I

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01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 1: feel like I'm embarrassed, but yeah I saw four times

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01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 1: literally read your three times your energy. Yeah. People tell

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01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:34,599
Speaker 1: me I like Jake Sully, Oh my god, um okay,

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01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:41,800
Speaker 1: the white eyes yeah big, I kind of saw by

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01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:48,599
Speaker 1: Leona Lewis forgotten. Yeah, I definitely like really I thought

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01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:51,320
Speaker 1: that that was like a mega moment. Yeah, I was

1254
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:53,360
Speaker 1: like this is and I'm still waiting for the sequels.

1255
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 1: And I'm going to that amusement park. We've been out, yes,

1256
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 1: bitch see when to the Star Wars one? And I was, oh, yeah,

1257
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 1: weait I forgot you guys go to an amusement parks

1258
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:08,599
Speaker 1: in this house, we go. We're disney Gates. Yeah, Chared's

1259
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 1: to disney Gate. We have annual passes. Next week to

1260
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 1: celebrate Game Show being wrapped, he said he made a

1261
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 1: reservation at Olga's Cantina and I cried. I cried, and

1262
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:20,840
Speaker 1: that's called oh can I bring that? Sorry? Actually, that's

1263
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:23,800
Speaker 1: been a thing I have. I haven't said that word yet, Like,

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01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 1: oh my god. I almost did the other day and

1265
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:31,599
Speaker 1: I was like, do I do this? Hope? I remember

1266
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 1: the first time I said it to my boyfriend. Five

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01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 1: minutes later, I was in the bathroom and we were

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01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:39,599
Speaker 1: at like a friend's. A friend had like a gallery show,

1269
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:42,840
Speaker 1: like a bad one too. It was just terrible. And

1270
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:46,280
Speaker 1: someone's banging on the door and I'm like, okay, relax,

1271
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 1: and I opened the door and he has thrown up

1272
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:51,160
Speaker 1: like he's so drunk at this thing. And I was like,

1273
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:54,720
Speaker 1: I literally just said I love you, like set it back.

1274
01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 1: He's not gonna remember now. We got to redo that.

1275
01:11:57,320 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 1: This is How'm gonna remember it forever. And I do

1276
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 1: remember it forever, but kind of funny now. And I

1277
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 1: had to clean up his throw up after telling him

1278
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 1: I love him. That's beautiful. There's been three or so,

1279
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:06,600
Speaker 1: we're fine. Did he remember the next day that he

1280
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 1: did he did that? And yeah, I guess he claimed

1281
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 1: that he had said it before then, which I'm like,

1282
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:15,599
Speaker 1: I wouldn't remember. He will. He doesn't listen to this podcast,

1283
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 1: so I couldn't talk about this. Yeah, I feel like

1284
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't gauge whether I should be

1285
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 1: the one to say it or he should be the

1286
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 1: one to say it don't matter. Yeah, I don't know

1287
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 1: about that. And it's like it's like it is that way,

1288
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 1: but it's like I don't know. We've also been dating

1289
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:36,760
Speaker 1: for June July, August September, five months. My first point friend,

1290
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 1: I said it. He said it first, really quickly. In

1291
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 1: my heart, I'm a lesbian with relationships faster than anything.

1292
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:44,800
Speaker 1: And then you know what's weird. Every other element of

1293
01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 1: our relationship I feel has moved fast. But we also

1294
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 1: were friends for like five months because I knew you

1295
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:52,559
Speaker 1: were like I saw Jared Kimpetri's concert. Where else am

1296
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 1: I going to say? Each other? So we know each

1297
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 1: other because my brother UM worked at this company with

1298
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 1: his close friend from call in l A. And so

1299
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 1: then a few nights I kept meeting him when I

1300
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 1: was in the closet even and it was so fun

1301
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 1: because I would just like talk to him and obviously

1302
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 1: like he knew, but he was just never like he's

1303
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 1: very perceptive. He's very perceptive, but not someone who's like

1304
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:16,680
Speaker 1: giving you ship or like trying to like poke it.

1305
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 1: He would just like show up to like parties and

1306
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:21,639
Speaker 1: always be so sweet. And then once I came out, Um,

1307
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:24,800
Speaker 1: I saw him like a like a year ago at

1308
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:27,840
Speaker 1: the friend we shares. I think it was her mom's

1309
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:29,800
Speaker 1: birthday party or something, and I had just come out

1310
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 1: and we just had this nice conversation. It's like always

1311
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 1: a fondness and anytime I see him, I'm like, he's

1312
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 1: very easy to talk to. Ye also insanely talented writer. Um.

1313
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:41,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's how we know you. And the friend

1314
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 1: we share is like an age. Have you met Liz

1315
01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 1: Kanyet No, But it was just her birthday. It was

1316
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 1: just her birthday. Yeah, and just yeah, he said he

1317
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:50,680
Speaker 1: was at her. He actually was at her birthday last night,

1318
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 1: and he said he did mushrooms and I was like, okay, yeah,

1319
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 1: having from I am truly I'm so scared of mushrooms

1320
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 1: in every way. Okay. Um, I think I did like

1321
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 1: kind of them. Um, but I like I've had i acid,

1322
01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 1: you know, I had an acid moment in college and

1323
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 1: that was fun. But some of them now, I'm like,

1324
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:14,639
Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess he literally he just texted

1325
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 1: me now that's that's the cosmics because he's he's alive. Okay,

1326
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 1: he's good. I was kind of gonna just check, just

1327
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 1: like find that out. Um yeah, I don't know. There's

1328
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:24,640
Speaker 1: I'm just like a little scared of them in this

1329
01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 1: totally in this time, and this time it's gonna be

1330
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 1: scared from New York drugs. Honestly, it's like it's do

1331
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 1: not do not do anything until you're ready to do that.

1332
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 1: That one too, it's like you can wait. I think

1333
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 1: I've done like partially them in college. And I was

1334
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 1: also like, you know, in a weird place in college.

1335
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:43,560
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I like think my thought of

1336
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:45,600
Speaker 1: them is weird. So I'm like, I think that you

1337
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:47,800
Speaker 1: should wait. Especially college would have been weird because you

1338
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 1: were so preoccupied with the closet of it all. Yes,

1339
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:51,880
Speaker 1: oh my god. That's the thing is you can't be

1340
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 1: you can't be preoccupied. You do it because I feel

1341
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 1: like every time I did drugs, it would just be

1342
01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:58,760
Speaker 1: like someone be like, what are you thinking about right now?

1343
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 1: If you'd just be sitting there, I'm gay, just thinking

1344
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 1: about stuff, you know, But I would just be like,

1345
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 1: I'm so fucking gay, like fun, Okay, Yeah, I'm like

1346
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 1: I gotta figure that out. And I did love it,

1347
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:14,160
Speaker 1: and I did. Yeah, but oh my god, and boyfriend

1348
01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:16,600
Speaker 1: or three years he's a good man. Yeah, I got

1349
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:18,839
Speaker 1: lucky on that one. I mean yeah. He's also a scorpio,

1350
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:21,800
Speaker 1: which you know with some people go really hard on it,

1351
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:24,639
Speaker 1: but it's fun. Some people are just like it's doomed.

1352
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:28,160
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, like these were still you know. I

1353
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 1: believe and I don't. I think there's so much power

1354
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 1: in being the scorpio because I believe that scorpio is

1355
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:36,680
Speaker 1: the sign that everyone comes for. I feel like, you know,

1356
01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:40,839
Speaker 1: who gets the worst rap Scorpio and Gemini and everyone's

1357
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:42,799
Speaker 1: always like, it's so easy to come for the scorpis

1358
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 1: and the general geminis. But when you learned how to

1359
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:48,360
Speaker 1: harness the scorpi and the you're the most powerful person

1360
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:51,560
Speaker 1: in the universe. Oh my god. One thing you just

1361
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 1: have to stay away from. It's Leo's I feel like,

1362
01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:01,400
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm sometimes very scared of Leo Leo's freak

1363
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:05,760
Speaker 1: Leo's that aren't tamed and untamed alliance. Oh I don't

1364
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 1: think Yeah, Um, that was funny. Yeah, that was the

1365
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 1: most interesting video to make. I was like, this seems

1366
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 1: like the trickiest sign to sensitive. Yeah, Virgo's and Leo's

1367
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:20,640
Speaker 1: are tricky to me. To see more of this and

1368
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 1: more of our damn guest, you have to follow at

1369
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:27,639
Speaker 1: any drama seven and he's gonna be your boss one day,

1370
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:29,519
Speaker 1: and he's gonna be last one day. And but for

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01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:31,519
Speaker 1: now we have to do I don't think so, honey, Okay, Yeah,

1372
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:34,559
Speaker 1: So this is the segment of Last Cultures. That's where

1373
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:36,559
Speaker 1: we take one minute to ranch against something in pop

1374
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:38,760
Speaker 1: culture that is just kind of grinding our gears. I

1375
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:41,760
Speaker 1: did hint at mind before. Do you have one today?

1376
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:45,040
Speaker 1: I do? But should I go firs and tradition. We

1377
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:46,760
Speaker 1: can have you go first because is Matt Rogers. I

1378
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:48,639
Speaker 1: don't think so. When it time starts now, I don't

1379
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 1: think so, honey. They gave Adina Menzel another high e

1380
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 1: flat to belt in the new song Into the Unknown

1381
01:16:54,560 --> 01:17:00,120
Speaker 1: and Frozen two. Okay, So Adina, girl, we love you.

1382
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 1: Were a huge fan. We even saw skin Tight, which

1383
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:06,760
Speaker 1: we honey, you know what is the thing about Let

1384
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 1: It Go? We can't hit that note. You know what's

1385
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:12,280
Speaker 1: sad about the narrative of Let It Go? That it's

1386
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:14,840
Speaker 1: rarely sung correctly. I don't think so, honey, of this

1387
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:17,599
Speaker 1: idea that it's a wealth. We tried a moment every

1388
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:20,160
Speaker 1: time we preferred Let it Go and other songs. If

1389
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:22,680
Speaker 1: you're a singer hired to do a job, and you're

1390
01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:24,800
Speaker 1: a professional, you hit the notes of the song. Now

1391
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 1: I'm reading an article and I don't think so, honey,

1392
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 1: of this article where she says she quote gets cocky

1393
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:32,320
Speaker 1: and put another note in there, and krist And Anderson

1394
01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:34,080
Speaker 1: Lopez is quoted as saying, I don't know how we

1395
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:38,320
Speaker 1: ended up here, but here we are quote and I'm sorry.

1396
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:41,000
Speaker 1: But when I'm watching Elsa realized she's a lesbian, because

1397
01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 1: that is what that sequence is about. I don't want

1398
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 1: to be worried for your life. I don't think so, honey,

1399
01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 1: Adina Menzel, girl, you're a bass what literally knocked out?

1400
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:59,800
Speaker 1: You're gonna get sued for that. So the key you're

1401
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:09,519
Speaker 1: hauling alphabet a bass. And I want to make this clear.

1402
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:13,080
Speaker 1: I love I think she's a star. I think it

1403
01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:16,520
Speaker 1: is no mistake that she's been involved in many cultural phenomenons.

1404
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 1: But it is distracting to watch her perform when the

1405
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:24,720
Speaker 1: songs are too high, because you're not thinking about the performance,

1406
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 1: You're not thinking about what she's talking about. Especially in

1407
01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:28,840
Speaker 1: musical theater, you have to be on the journey with

1408
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:32,200
Speaker 1: the character. You're just worried the whole time that she's

1409
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:34,000
Speaker 1: going to make it to the end without I'm sorry,

1410
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:41,160
Speaker 1: but killing herself. I didn't realize that, like it up,

1411
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:44,640
Speaker 1: hold on, I literally just had it up. It's important

1412
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 1: that so they So they went in thinking like we're

1413
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 1: not going to make the same mistake we did last time,

1414
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:55,639
Speaker 1: and like throwing this insane, unattainable note, Well this is it. Um.

1415
01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:59,080
Speaker 1: Let's see. In Frozen two, she goes for the high

1416
01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:01,920
Speaker 1: e flat again. One that she typically hits as this article,

1417
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:04,760
Speaker 1: but as publicly missed before, like when she sang live

1418
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 1: in a New Year's performance. Afterwards, she posted on Twitter

1419
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:10,880
Speaker 1: that you quote can't get it right all the time,

1420
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 1: but you can try your best. I don't think so hot.

1421
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 1: That's not There are singers who could do this in

1422
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:18,240
Speaker 1: their sleep. But Manzel, this is the article didn't shy

1423
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 1: away from Arranged and Frozen two. In the sequel, she

1424
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 1: sings the high notes some more. Songwriters Kristen Erson Lopez

1425
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 1: and Robert Lopez included another e flat and equals and

1426
01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:33,760
Speaker 1: Elsa's sequel Ballot into the Unknown. They did, and I'll

1427
01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:35,439
Speaker 1: pay for that for the rest of my life and

1428
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:37,839
Speaker 1: every other day that I can't sing it, joked Menzel

1429
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:41,240
Speaker 1: on the Frozen to Red carpet. The songwriters told USA

1430
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:45,280
Speaker 1: Today they knew the Tony Award winning actress could do it. Quote.

1431
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:48,519
Speaker 1: We work very closely with Adina and make sure everything's

1432
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 1: cool with her, and we explore different creek keys, whatever

1433
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:54,040
Speaker 1: feels best, and this is where we ended up somehow,

1434
01:19:54,479 --> 01:20:02,400
Speaker 1: end quote, she said. She said the reviews are good,

1435
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:05,760
Speaker 1: said it's darker, more challenging, and that there again is

1436
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:08,599
Speaker 1: not a traditional villain. That the villain is the feelings

1437
01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:13,840
Speaker 1: of the interior feelings. Apparently it explores themes of they

1438
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:16,640
Speaker 1: have to go meet like another group of people, and

1439
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 1: they have to in meeting them, they confront things about

1440
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:21,639
Speaker 1: their own past. And Evan rachel Wood plays their mother

1441
01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:24,280
Speaker 1: who has passed away. But I think I think there's

1442
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:26,919
Speaker 1: like a dark truth about their family that they confront

1443
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:30,080
Speaker 1: and apparently it's like apparently I kind of always want

1444
01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:32,760
Speaker 1: like a little witch, but yeah, no, I love but

1445
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:35,599
Speaker 1: you know, just a little bit. And this is Adina

1446
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 1: Menzel's last quote that I'll say quote I get cocky

1447
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:41,479
Speaker 1: in the studio, I start to feel good, I go

1448
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:43,479
Speaker 1: I can hit that, and then I wake up another

1449
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:46,599
Speaker 1: morning and I'm like, why did I do that to myself? Girl,

1450
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 1: just lower the key for like saying I didn't know

1451
01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:52,040
Speaker 1: it was such like a thing. But here's the thing.

1452
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:57,800
Speaker 1: I'm still that she's not trying the head. Every time

1453
01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:00,479
Speaker 1: Adina screams these notes, I'm just like, girl, that doesn't

1454
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:03,120
Speaker 1: sound good, and we're distracted, and it's I'm sorry, but

1455
01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:06,000
Speaker 1: it shouldn't be a narrative of let it go. That

1456
01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:09,640
Speaker 1: it is rarely sung correctly like, no one's mad at

1457
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:11,800
Speaker 1: you if you lower the key, you sound lovely. You're

1458
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:15,240
Speaker 1: an amazing singer, You're Adina Menzel, You're talented, and we

1459
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:17,640
Speaker 1: love you when we stand. But like this high e

1460
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:23,640
Speaker 1: flat is not it. But I also understand the expectation

1461
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 1: around this. What's this single going to be from Frozen two? Is?

1462
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:29,880
Speaker 1: By the way, we have not heard it. Oh, they

1463
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 1: won't release at this time. It's like not yet, It's

1464
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 1: still yeah, um, but it feels like they have to

1465
01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:41,519
Speaker 1: match it, at least on some technical level with with

1466
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 1: with with with a Nightmare. How about this gag? How

1467
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:49,160
Speaker 1: about to Kristen Bell this time? How about this gag?

1468
01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:51,400
Speaker 1: How about give Jonathan Groff a song? Which I heard

1469
01:21:51,439 --> 01:21:53,200
Speaker 1: he does have a song. It's an eighties rock ballad.

1470
01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:59,720
Speaker 1: I'm very excited. Yeah, oh my god, obsessed. He he's

1471
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 1: old that first movie. For me, I thought, you Christ,

1472
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:07,599
Speaker 1: are you been talking about Josh Gad? I'm talking about

1473
01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:10,240
Speaker 1: Josh Okay, yeah, I'm talking about this is okay? Well,

1474
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:15,360
Speaker 1: actually that's a loaded cast and we're adding Rachel to

1475
01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 1: the mix and um Sterling cab Brown is also in

1476
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:21,400
Speaker 1: the Wow, oh god, okay? Well, IV and Michel would you.

1477
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:22,800
Speaker 1: I mean, you have to have a queer movie right there,

1478
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:25,640
Speaker 1: if you absolutely do, Okay, I've got so that was

1479
01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:27,120
Speaker 1: my I don't think so, honey. And now we're gonna

1480
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:29,240
Speaker 1: go on to Bowen Yanks. I don't think so, honey,

1481
01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:31,360
Speaker 1: and Bowen Yanks. I don't think so, honey. On this

1482
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:33,599
Speaker 1: episode will start now, I don't think so, honey. Music

1483
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:36,760
Speaker 1: that doesn't come out on a Friday. The industry made

1484
01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:39,400
Speaker 1: a huge big deal out of moving it from Tuesday

1485
01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:41,960
Speaker 1: to Friday years ago, remember that. And now we've all

1486
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:44,559
Speaker 1: been conditioned to expect new songs to drop on Friday.

1487
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 1: I want I get disoriented when fucking you know, do

1488
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:52,840
Speaker 1: Alipa puts out a song on a Thursday morning, honey?

1489
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 1: And then I don't know where I am, what day

1490
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:58,000
Speaker 1: it is, what time it is, how I'm supposed to feel.

1491
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:00,880
Speaker 1: It's really fucking up with all the seasonal change is

1492
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:03,080
Speaker 1: happening in the midst of it all a sea now,

1493
01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:04,600
Speaker 1: and I feel like there's a trend and it's just

1494
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 1: really gonna fragment the whole release model of the industry

1495
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 1: and who suffers the consumer us bitch. I don't think so, honey,

1496
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:17,120
Speaker 1: me having to like go to my release radar playlist

1497
01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 1: on Spotify and seeing songs that are at least six

1498
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:22,080
Speaker 1: days old because why it came out on a Saturday

1499
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:25,240
Speaker 1: instead of Friday. No, this throws off everything. Nothing feels

1500
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:27,280
Speaker 1: fresh anymore, and nothing feels new. I want to be

1501
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:30,600
Speaker 1: surprised and delighted, and music industry, you better get it

1502
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:38,759
Speaker 1: together or else I will sue. That's one minute culture

1503
01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:44,240
Speaker 1: number ten. Remember that. Remember that I made a big

1504
01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 1: whole thing of making music come out on Friday. Remember that.

1505
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:54,160
Speaker 1: Oh and that performance. She's not a dancer, but that

1506
01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:59,040
Speaker 1: was fantastic. But she always she knows her limitations and

1507
01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 1: works all of it. She works her entire capability to

1508
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:04,400
Speaker 1: the max. She's always got great stage and great backup,

1509
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 1: great concepts. Yeah, I love the Discomatics are fantastic. So

1510
01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:15,200
Speaker 1: I missed that old boyfriend though he's like British and

1511
01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:17,519
Speaker 1: he's like a kind of like British e John Mary,

1512
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:21,720
Speaker 1: oh god chef right, Like she's tating some celebrity now right,

1513
01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 1: she's with the air. Oh that's right, young Yeah, is one.

1514
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 1: She's got to be you. You know what I forgot?

1515
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:32,800
Speaker 1: I forgot that she had one best new artist at

1516
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:35,719
Speaker 1: the Grammys. Did she really? She won Best New Artists,

1517
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:41,160
Speaker 1: She beat out her baby Rexa, And I remember I

1518
01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:43,799
Speaker 1: was like, huh, that's interesting. I never thought of Das.

1519
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:45,680
Speaker 1: And then I really thought about it, and I was like, yeah,

1520
01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:48,120
Speaker 1: well new artist this year, not not too much else,

1521
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:51,280
Speaker 1: it's going to be interesting this year. Yeah, because you

1522
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:54,800
Speaker 1: got Billy. Can Billy be nominated? Now? Why did I

1523
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:57,120
Speaker 1: think she was nominated last year? I mean, I am

1524
01:24:57,320 --> 01:25:00,360
Speaker 1: sure she was. She was for VM as she right,

1525
01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 1: she wants, she wanted. She beat Lizzo for VM A thing.

1526
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:06,200
Speaker 1: But I love Billy's acceptance video that she sent in. Yeah,

1527
01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:08,560
Speaker 1: oh my god, did you remember what it was? She

1528
01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:17,160
Speaker 1: was like, hey, guys, problematic And then she's like, I'm

1529
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:20,720
Speaker 1: in Moscow right now, and um, I'm sorry I can't

1530
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:23,840
Speaker 1: be there. But and then she's what she says, music

1531
01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:27,640
Speaker 1: videos and visuals have always been a huge priority for

1532
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:33,120
Speaker 1: me totally. There was something like when we were six

1533
01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:36,000
Speaker 1: and were like panicking, white knuckling being closeted, and she

1534
01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 1: was like, I want my concepts. I just love thinking

1535
01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:42,880
Speaker 1: of her like at a table being like for this one,

1536
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna cry like black tears. Yeah. Yeah, And I

1537
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:49,240
Speaker 1: think I should pop the next video. I would love it.

1538
01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:54,000
Speaker 1: She super sweet, super sweet girl. Oh yeah you better Okay, yeah,

1539
01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 1: I'm sure she is. She was who has been the sweetest,

1540
01:25:57,240 --> 01:26:01,400
Speaker 1: nicest celebrity you've meta? Was on I know that you

1541
01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:07,880
Speaker 1: know Megan the Yeah, Megan, the most gorgeous person you've

1542
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:10,760
Speaker 1: ever seen in yourself. I also just loved watching you

1543
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:16,200
Speaker 1: you get the camera was catching you standing her oh yeah,

1544
01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:18,680
Speaker 1: and Chloe and he's just staring at her. She's like,

1545
01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:21,560
Speaker 1: it was like, we love you so much, and it

1546
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:25,240
Speaker 1: was and Chloe Chloe was. Chloe loved that week with

1547
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:29,000
Speaker 1: Chance because Chloe loves loves Chances and then Chloe's parents

1548
01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:34,639
Speaker 1: mad Chance. He got so much like Internet, Hey, first album,

1549
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:37,400
Speaker 1: first album, because I love that Nicky one. So that's

1550
01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:40,680
Speaker 1: my fifth Forceman of the Apocalypse on NICKI, I mean,

1551
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:43,360
Speaker 1: we love nick and we never forget Never Never you

1552
01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 1: can't Pink Friday. I listened to She's About to Ruin

1553
01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:49,960
Speaker 1: Everyone with Shenley and then the album There's a good

1554
01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 1: eight song album in Queen and Queen absolutely like, um,

1555
01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:59,000
Speaker 1: Barbie Dream, Barbie Barbie Dream was Barbie Tank And then

1556
01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 1: what was that song? Oh god, U good form good

1557
01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:05,400
Speaker 1: good for ye eat the cooking and good form. Yeah,

1558
01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:09,600
Speaker 1: I think I love that should have I'm sad that

1559
01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:11,800
Speaker 1: that should have been. Yeah, that should be qua. I

1560
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 1: have to say. I also love the pink print and

1561
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:18,439
Speaker 1: I really love I love um Roman Reloaded. I mean, oh,

1562
01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:21,559
Speaker 1: I think it's great. I love her. I love her forever.

1563
01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:26,800
Speaker 1: I mean pound the Alarm is forever my alarm, Like,

1564
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 1: oh my god, that forever. Sometimes I haven't like like,

1565
01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 1: oh my god, she's a great voice in the trap

1566
01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 1: that album has and come on a cone, come on

1567
01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:53,960
Speaker 1: within with it. Can you know? That's what I think.

1568
01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:56,600
Speaker 1: Immediately when that came out and I did that, it

1569
01:27:56,680 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I'm an absolutely section. I was watching

1570
01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:03,240
Speaker 1: her like eat your Hollywood Story. I remember like in

1571
01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:06,880
Speaker 1: high school, and my whole family knew I was obsessed,

1572
01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:10,840
Speaker 1: Like I was a Kendall for sure, and they have

1573
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 1: this ething and this person is being interviewed and they're like,

1574
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:15,240
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, all the people that like Nikki are

1575
01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:17,760
Speaker 1: like women, and then those are the barbies, and then

1576
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:20,200
Speaker 1: there's the gay guys, which is the Kendalls. My family

1577
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:23,200
Speaker 1: is all just sitting there and I'm like, yeah, I

1578
01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 1: don't know, like stay guys like her too. That's so yeah,

1579
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:31,080
Speaker 1: but truly a Kendal forever. I hope this retirement thing

1580
01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:35,000
Speaker 1: is just like I'm sure it's fake. Yeah, she's just

1581
01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:38,200
Speaker 1: like she works, she's a brand. She's stunting on us.

1582
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:42,680
Speaker 1: She retired and dropped a Fendi line. She's not retired. No,

1583
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:51,040
Speaker 1: her photo shoots Petty Petty. Absolutely. You know she was

1584
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:53,240
Speaker 1: in her dressing room when she screams out and says

1585
01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 1: that change it to miss Petty, change it and idea,

1586
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:05,439
Speaker 1: and he bossed up so good. There's no wish I

1587
01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:07,920
Speaker 1: wrote it. But they're like, I'm so sad We're never

1588
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:09,559
Speaker 1: going to get to know how many of us are

1589
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:13,840
Speaker 1: our nicky stepsons and album because like that, someone kept

1590
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:16,200
Speaker 1: being like, yeah, how many step sons, this nicky having

1591
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:19,479
Speaker 1: queen And she says it a few times, but I

1592
01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:23,760
Speaker 1: love every time. It's like my son, motherfucking stepson, my son.

1593
01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:29,439
Speaker 1: Yeah you know what did so? Oh my god, I

1594
01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:31,880
Speaker 1: loved it that whole album start to finish, it's like

1595
01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:36,680
Speaker 1: just Natasha bedding Field. Yeah. Super Bases are is our

1596
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:39,960
Speaker 1: national it is, it really is. It's actually real culture.

1597
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:43,599
Speaker 1: Number six super Bases are national. I said that one

1598
01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:47,720
Speaker 1: with you. It's like, but now we have to have benitos.

1599
01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:50,599
Speaker 1: I don't think I think I have one. I'm just okay, yeah, okay,

1600
01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:52,720
Speaker 1: I just just go for yeah. I don't know if

1601
01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:54,320
Speaker 1: I can. You guys do it so fast and like,

1602
01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:57,320
Speaker 1: oh okay, all right, this has been skin of time.

1603
01:29:57,640 --> 01:29:59,960
Speaker 1: Honey's time starts now. I don't think so, Honey casting

1604
01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:02,320
Speaker 1: is c g I James Dean in that movie. That's

1605
01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:05,639
Speaker 1: super uncomfortable. Also, every time we see C g I people,

1606
01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:06,960
Speaker 1: it was like the last time I remember it was

1607
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:09,200
Speaker 1: Tron and they tried to do that and then it

1608
01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:12,200
Speaker 1: was like JFK and Transformers. It always makes me uncomfortable,

1609
01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:15,240
Speaker 1: like always looks weird. They can never quite get faces

1610
01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:18,599
Speaker 1: avatar works because you know, like they're blue, but everything else,

1611
01:30:18,680 --> 01:30:20,200
Speaker 1: Like I remember they did it to Jeff Bridges and

1612
01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:22,640
Speaker 1: try to make him look young and it made me uncomfortable.

1613
01:30:23,080 --> 01:30:24,880
Speaker 1: I remember it chapter two they had some of the

1614
01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:26,720
Speaker 1: kids like look younger, and a few times I caught

1615
01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:28,240
Speaker 1: it on screen, I was like, I didn't need it,

1616
01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:30,960
Speaker 1: would have still believed they were young. M Yeah, C

1617
01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:33,400
Speaker 1: g I people. And also it's like he didn't sign

1618
01:30:33,439 --> 01:30:35,200
Speaker 1: out for that, like he died at twenty four. This

1619
01:30:35,320 --> 01:30:37,960
Speaker 1: is uncomfortable. I don't need to see him act anymore,

1620
01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:40,679
Speaker 1: like we have his movies already. Um, and I feel

1621
01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:43,200
Speaker 1: like his family if like I think he still has family,

1622
01:30:43,320 --> 01:30:46,519
Speaker 1: has to be uncomfortable with seeing him. And also how

1623
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:48,080
Speaker 1: are you gonna do that? Like is it going to

1624
01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:50,880
Speaker 1: be his type of acting which is very different than

1625
01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:53,840
Speaker 1: we act now. And the whole thing is like I

1626
01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:57,320
Speaker 1: think it's super disrespectful to him, his legacy. It makes

1627
01:30:57,360 --> 01:30:59,960
Speaker 1: me uncomfortable cgi people. And that's when a minute I

1628
01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:08,280
Speaker 1: would agree let dead people be dead. It just makes

1629
01:31:08,320 --> 01:31:10,760
Speaker 1: me so uncomfortable because like a part of me also

1630
01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:12,880
Speaker 1: I just want to see how, like what it looks like.

1631
01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:15,240
Speaker 1: So then it's like I feel bad as a consumer

1632
01:31:15,360 --> 01:31:17,240
Speaker 1: of it because why I am curious how you're going

1633
01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:19,760
Speaker 1: to do that. It's also like that there that was

1634
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:22,320
Speaker 1: their art, that was their legacy, and so now you know,

1635
01:31:22,439 --> 01:31:25,040
Speaker 1: you know what kind of bothers me is the huge

1636
01:31:25,200 --> 01:31:28,519
Speaker 1: hit that Higher Love is with Whitney Houston on it,

1637
01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:31,880
Speaker 1: It's like, you, guys, Whitney's dead, she let her rest.

1638
01:31:32,120 --> 01:31:34,880
Speaker 1: And also here's a question for the table, how do

1639
01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:40,120
Speaker 1: you guys feel about Robin Whitney's Robin coming out and

1640
01:31:40,240 --> 01:31:42,760
Speaker 1: talking about the fact, I would say, I'll say my

1641
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:46,200
Speaker 1: take on it is. My take on it is. I

1642
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:48,599
Speaker 1: kind of have a mentality now with the closet where

1643
01:31:48,640 --> 01:31:51,280
Speaker 1: it's like, we need to stop this, we need to

1644
01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:55,719
Speaker 1: stop normalizing being in the closet to advance professional careers,

1645
01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:58,360
Speaker 1: we need to start coming out and all saying what

1646
01:31:58,520 --> 01:32:00,720
Speaker 1: the real truth is. I think everyone that's in the

1647
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:04,479
Speaker 1: closet is currently. I understand it's hard, we all know

1648
01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:08,760
Speaker 1: it's hard. But if we continue this narrative of normalizing

1649
01:32:09,080 --> 01:32:12,360
Speaker 1: being closeted to kind of do this, that's toxic because

1650
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:15,240
Speaker 1: it is not normal to pretend it is normal to

1651
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:18,200
Speaker 1: be yes. But but I don't think that's I'm not

1652
01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:20,920
Speaker 1: that's not my takeaway from this conversation. Well, that's that's

1653
01:32:21,120 --> 01:32:23,679
Speaker 1: my mine neither. I actually think Robin was an equal

1654
01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:26,320
Speaker 1: partner in that relationship. A lot of people are talking

1655
01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:27,960
Speaker 1: about it, and this is her truth and she should

1656
01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:31,240
Speaker 1: speak read did you read like the story that she

1657
01:32:31,400 --> 01:32:35,880
Speaker 1: tells about when Whitney ended things? Talk about it, and

1658
01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:37,920
Speaker 1: I'm already like, I mean I saw the movie and

1659
01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:42,960
Speaker 1: I'm still like very hard. God, it's really killed those women.

1660
01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:48,560
Speaker 1: It's just a um but uh, it was early like

1661
01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:51,719
Speaker 1: they had a physical relationship early on in their friendship

1662
01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:55,720
Speaker 1: and early on in Whitney's career, and Whitney decided to

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01:32:56,120 --> 01:32:58,520
Speaker 1: end it very early on as well, but they maintained

1664
01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:03,639
Speaker 1: very like emotional she was like her rock for years. Yeah,

1665
01:33:04,280 --> 01:33:07,880
Speaker 1: but Whitney decided to end it, and um gave Robin

1666
01:33:08,360 --> 01:33:12,240
Speaker 1: a blue Bible as like a gift and I guess

1667
01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:14,640
Speaker 1: a symbol of like, we gotta end this. And then

1668
01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:16,920
Speaker 1: she was like and then what did when you say?

1669
01:33:16,920 --> 01:33:19,639
Speaker 1: She was like, we can't, I can't, we can't keep

1670
01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:22,560
Speaker 1: this going. It was basically kind of like she was

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01:33:22,640 --> 01:33:24,720
Speaker 1: between the career and her and she kind of chose that.

1672
01:33:24,880 --> 01:33:27,040
Speaker 1: And also I think there was so much familiar pressure.

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01:33:27,080 --> 01:33:29,720
Speaker 1: And also I'm sure that there was a great deal

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01:33:29,760 --> 01:33:32,760
Speaker 1: of you know, not if it wasn't self hatred, then

1675
01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:34,240
Speaker 1: it was self doubt, you know what I mean. And

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01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:38,200
Speaker 1: so you know, also just in the black community, it's

1677
01:33:38,240 --> 01:33:41,000
Speaker 1: incredibly difficult, and I mean I think it's incredibly hard

1678
01:33:41,040 --> 01:33:44,080
Speaker 1: to be like a very feminine presenting pop star and

1679
01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:48,120
Speaker 1: then very religious that you know. Sissy is on the

1680
01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:51,040
Speaker 1: record of saying that that would have been a huge

1681
01:33:51,760 --> 01:33:54,200
Speaker 1: red line for her, and you know, she didn't have

1682
01:33:54,240 --> 01:33:56,519
Speaker 1: really a good relationship with her father, and you know,

1683
01:33:57,600 --> 01:34:00,040
Speaker 1: you know, you forget like Whitney Houston was groundbreaking in

1684
01:34:00,120 --> 01:34:04,479
Speaker 1: the mainstream, like and then when she became a movie star,

1685
01:34:04,920 --> 01:34:07,040
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, opposite like who at

1686
01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:10,559
Speaker 1: that time was like our biggest movie star new Robert Redford. Yeah,

1687
01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:13,360
Speaker 1: that truly is. Yeah, I mean I think that we

1688
01:34:13,680 --> 01:34:17,760
Speaker 1: we don't know, but The Bodyguard was huge. Yeah, I

1689
01:34:17,800 --> 01:34:20,000
Speaker 1: think because we know it, it must be so big.

1690
01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:21,760
Speaker 1: You know, it's like because we know of the song

1691
01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:24,440
Speaker 1: and just like you know, it has to be so insane.

1692
01:34:25,000 --> 01:34:26,479
Speaker 1: But that is my take on it. I'm like, you

1693
01:34:26,560 --> 01:34:30,040
Speaker 1: know what, I'm happy that Robin is taking the narrative

1694
01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:33,000
Speaker 1: being like because because you know what, it's got to

1695
01:34:33,080 --> 01:34:35,920
Speaker 1: be very hard to be a footnote in someone else's story,

1696
01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:38,720
Speaker 1: especially someone that you really cared about who's no longer

1697
01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:42,000
Speaker 1: here and cannot speak for you or for the situation

1698
01:34:42,200 --> 01:34:44,280
Speaker 1: for themselves. So she is the only person who can

1699
01:34:44,280 --> 01:34:46,920
Speaker 1: speak truth to that. To watch all these documentaries and

1700
01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:51,160
Speaker 1: pieces and to finally to finally yeah and she yeah,

1701
01:34:51,200 --> 01:34:53,519
Speaker 1: even in white, I don't think they she wasn't interviewed

1702
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:56,040
Speaker 1: for it, right, I don't think she's Robin was not

1703
01:34:56,160 --> 01:34:57,680
Speaker 1: in it. Yeah, but they talked about it. It's like

1704
01:34:57,760 --> 01:34:59,960
Speaker 1: the first time I had ever heard about that, which

1705
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:02,120
Speaker 1: just I was like, I found that really alarming that

1706
01:35:02,200 --> 01:35:04,960
Speaker 1: I had never before then heard about Whitney having like

1707
01:35:05,040 --> 01:35:08,120
Speaker 1: any relationships with women. So yeah, I'm kind of glad

1708
01:35:08,120 --> 01:35:10,240
Speaker 1: that she's finally spoken on it. I feel like, you know,

1709
01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:14,320
Speaker 1: to like end the speculation, which I never like speculations,

1710
01:35:14,439 --> 01:35:17,800
Speaker 1: Like I just find that to be like super you know,

1711
01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:21,040
Speaker 1: like either closet shaming or kind of just like sketchy

1712
01:35:21,320 --> 01:35:24,600
Speaker 1: and inherently just because it's like we think this was

1713
01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:26,400
Speaker 1: going on, it's like, well, can't we just like talk

1714
01:35:26,479 --> 01:35:28,680
Speaker 1: to the human being. I honestly, I think about this.

1715
01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:31,280
Speaker 1: We've talked about it on this podcast about Shawn Mendez,

1716
01:35:31,320 --> 01:35:33,240
Speaker 1: where it's like it's like it's like now it's uncomfortable

1717
01:35:33,280 --> 01:35:36,439
Speaker 1: because it's like it's such a narrative and I'm just

1718
01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:39,040
Speaker 1: kind of like like, let things be what it is.

1719
01:35:39,479 --> 01:35:42,320
Speaker 1: Like there's a part of me that's like if if,

1720
01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:45,519
Speaker 1: if that is happening, then I feel like it's sad

1721
01:35:45,680 --> 01:35:47,840
Speaker 1: because I just don't want kids who are watching it

1722
01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:50,720
Speaker 1: to hear the narrative around it and be like, oh,

1723
01:35:50,840 --> 01:35:53,760
Speaker 1: that has to be me. It's it's it's poisonous. The

1724
01:35:53,800 --> 01:35:55,880
Speaker 1: whole thing is the shame of it. And also I'm like,

1725
01:35:56,040 --> 01:36:00,600
Speaker 1: if he is like the inner trauma facing of like

1726
01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:05,160
Speaker 1: being closeted in public, not in any way like like

1727
01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:07,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, and we genuinely don't know what I

1728
01:36:07,439 --> 01:36:09,320
Speaker 1: would just say. I would say the only thing that

1729
01:36:09,400 --> 01:36:11,200
Speaker 1: he is out about is the fact that he has

1730
01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:16,559
Speaker 1: insane anxiety. So it's like, why are why why are

1731
01:36:16,680 --> 01:36:19,400
Speaker 1: we like it's angry at this, why are we pressing

1732
01:36:19,479 --> 01:36:22,400
Speaker 1: that even more? Yeah, it's like I never find that

1733
01:36:22,520 --> 01:36:25,439
Speaker 1: to be Yeah. And also, yeah, you're like scaring everyone

1734
01:36:25,479 --> 01:36:28,240
Speaker 1: who is in the closet, and you know, like people

1735
01:36:28,280 --> 01:36:31,160
Speaker 1: who grow up not in cities and don't see gay

1736
01:36:31,240 --> 01:36:34,160
Speaker 1: people all the time. It's like funk, okay, Like he's

1737
01:36:34,160 --> 01:36:36,439
Speaker 1: getting shamed for being in the closet. But it's like,

1738
01:36:36,920 --> 01:36:40,640
Speaker 1: but I don't know if you're necessarily proving to him

1739
01:36:40,680 --> 01:36:43,800
Speaker 1: that it's great when you're out, he's attacked, Yeah, because

1740
01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:45,960
Speaker 1: the second he comes out, it's like not everyone's going

1741
01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:48,840
Speaker 1: to be like, we let me accept you a lot

1742
01:36:48,880 --> 01:36:50,080
Speaker 1: of people that are like this, but there's going to

1743
01:36:50,120 --> 01:36:52,240
Speaker 1: be some people that are like, why did you do?

1744
01:36:52,760 --> 01:36:57,960
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? He's very he is the

1745
01:36:57,960 --> 01:37:00,519
Speaker 1: biggest male pop star right now. Absolutely. Yeah. He's a

1746
01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:02,640
Speaker 1: new Bieber. So it's like if Bieber had come out.

1747
01:37:02,720 --> 01:37:05,280
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, I'm curious. I don't know. Yeh, who knows what?

1748
01:37:05,400 --> 01:37:07,000
Speaker 1: I feel bad. I feel like you have to come

1749
01:37:07,040 --> 01:37:10,160
Speaker 1: back because we so much. This is an honor. It

1750
01:37:10,240 --> 01:37:12,720
Speaker 1: really is talking about our pop with the two of you.

1751
01:37:12,840 --> 01:37:16,840
Speaker 1: This is a culture really scratched. The damn surfair. We

1752
01:37:16,880 --> 01:37:19,559
Speaker 1: need to get into the Jeff Coon's cover, which there's

1753
01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:22,040
Speaker 1: so much to be said. I mean so much. But um, so,

1754
01:37:22,520 --> 01:37:23,960
Speaker 1: are you going to be doing your show a lot

1755
01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:26,479
Speaker 1: going forward? A little bit? I'm almost It's been a year,

1756
01:37:26,560 --> 01:37:29,040
Speaker 1: so I'm kind of like almost done. I think I'm

1757
01:37:29,120 --> 01:37:31,960
Speaker 1: kind of getting getting back in and making some sketches. Um,

1758
01:37:32,040 --> 01:37:35,720
Speaker 1: I need you two and sketches immediately immediately. I don't

1759
01:37:35,720 --> 01:37:43,840
Speaker 1: know if I think cont okay, yeah, we'll find so much.

1760
01:37:44,240 --> 01:37:46,519
Speaker 1: Um but yeah, I'm doing like a few shows in

1761
01:37:46,520 --> 01:37:48,320
Speaker 1: the next month. I a few in Texas and then

1762
01:37:48,520 --> 01:37:51,240
Speaker 1: well can they find your shows on your Instagram? Did

1763
01:37:51,240 --> 01:37:56,439
Speaker 1: you plug Yeah in my Lincoln. Thank you so much

1764
01:37:58,040 --> 01:38:01,120
Speaker 1: an icon like both of you on Nick. Thank you

1765
01:38:01,200 --> 01:38:05,120
Speaker 1: for all you do. My word and actually we do,

1766
01:38:05,320 --> 01:38:13,840
Speaker 1: and every every episode with a song fro and do

1767
01:38:14,520 --> 01:38:20,120
Speaker 1: do do do? Last? I really like you? No way

1768
01:38:20,520 --> 01:38:27,080
Speaker 1: you whipping whipper okay by Forever. This has been a

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01:38:27,120 --> 01:38:31,479
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1770
01:38:31,800 --> 01:38:36,280
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