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Speaker 1: And welcome back to our number two of the Drive

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Speaker 1: here on the Steelers Audio Network. I'm Dale Lolly. He

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Speaker 1: is the Matt Williamson except no imitations. And Matt, it

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Speaker 1: is time to do a little mock draft here and

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Speaker 1: we're using the Pro Football Focus mock draft here today.

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Speaker 1: And I want to have one caveat here today.

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Speaker 3: Let's do something a little different.

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Speaker 1: We're not moving out of the first round. We're not.

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Speaker 1: We're not we're not trading down in the first round.

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Speaker 3: We're picking it to pot at twenty one, no matter what. Okay,

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Speaker 3: we got a couple of tweets about that over the

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Speaker 3: last couple of days. Yeah, why I just do one

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Speaker 3: where you stick and pick at twenty one.

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Speaker 1: Now, that doesn't mean we can't trade up into the

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Speaker 1: second round, perhaps trading some future picks. It doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: we can't move around in later that's spots.

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Speaker 3: So we're we're picking somebody.

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Speaker 1: Picking somebody at twenty one because we kind of want

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Speaker 1: to do this typically that's what want typically that's what

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Speaker 3: Of course, yeah, I mean just say, oh, we'll just

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Speaker 3: trade out. You don't get five offers like you and.

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Speaker 1: And realistically we've right now, we've only got one and

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Speaker 1: I'm not interested. We've got three guys and the one,

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Speaker 1: the one that's offered is at twenty five. And really

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Speaker 1: there are just looking at it here the players that

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Speaker 1: would be in consideration for the Steelers. At this point,

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Speaker 1: you've got Omari and Hampton, Derek Harmon and Shodoor Sanders.

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Speaker 3: The Grant and Nolan are gone.

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Speaker 1: Granton Nolan are gone.

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Speaker 3: I don't know I would trade back now.

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Speaker 1: I'm not trading back taking hard. I think you stick

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Speaker 1: and you pick Harmon. You know. In fact, to me,

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Speaker 1: it comes down to Hampton or Harmon versus Hampton. I

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Speaker 1: think I don't think. I don't think Sanders is in consideration.

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Speaker 3: I don't either. I think we differ on this a

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Speaker 3: little that I think Hampton the fine prospect, but compared

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Speaker 3: to the three d tackles, I think there's a big gap.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a big I think those other guys

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Speaker 1: and somebody asked that on the message board, would wouldn't

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Speaker 1: you be better off taking Hampton and then you can

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Speaker 1: just fill your needs on defensive line later in the draft.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm looking for my potential long term replacement

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Speaker 1: for Cam Hayward, his.

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Speaker 3: Labs always I went to tow It, I went the

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Speaker 3: Hayward even like chance of find that in the third.

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Speaker 1: Round, I can get a nose tackle later in a draft.

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Speaker 1: And everybody knows my ty Robinson love but he's but

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Speaker 1: he's not. He's not. He's not the next stuff on

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Speaker 1: Twit or Cam Hayward. No, No, he's a good player. Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like they're not. Nolan might be. Yeah, those guys aren't changing,

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Speaker 1: you know, immediate starters. Potentially, they're gonna be rotational players

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Speaker 1: in the early inner career. Maybe they become starters down Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but they're not.

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Speaker 3: That getting one of those three to me is a

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Speaker 3: lot better start than Hampton. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go ahead and draft Harmon here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: which we've been pretty consistent with over the last oh

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Speaker 1: I don't know, eight weeks that we're taking the defensive

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Speaker 1: tackle there, and Harmon has kind of been the guy

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Speaker 3: Now, all right, if they take Harmon at twenty one,

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Speaker 3: like that's exactly how it goes.

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Speaker 1: And I screwed that up again. I didn't hit seven rounds.

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Speaker 1: But okay, we'll go back.

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Speaker 3: We can restart it.

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Speaker 1: I can restart it, and we're gonna do the same thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: get the same settings here.

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Speaker 3: Assuming he's available.

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Speaker 1: I imagine he will be. Yeah, Kenneth Grant went one

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Speaker 3: Denver's a sneaky spot for a detackle too.

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Speaker 1: All right, we are now into round two. Do we

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Speaker 1: ended up with Harmon? We ended up with Harmon. The

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Speaker 1: think any of the other running backs nobody went.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not interested in treating a first round

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Speaker 1: No, okay, Now we're down to forty four and the

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Speaker 3: Him, but these are ones that went.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Xavier Wats, a safety had a Notre Dame, Trey

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not super excited about trading premium future picks

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Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna let Bill Roe is also still

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Speaker 3: Would do it for a quarterback. Yeah, but not a

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Speaker 1: Hit, Okay, we're now within We're down to pick fifty four,

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Speaker 1: and Jayden Higgins went from Iowa state wide receiver J. T.

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Speaker 1: Twomloa the edgress right of Ohio State. Landon Jackson the

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Speaker 1: edgdresser from Arkansas, Chavon Revel cornerback from East Carolina. TJ.

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Speaker 1: Sanders defensive lineman from South Carolina, Omar Norman Lott defensive

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Speaker 1: Prince Au edg rusher from Mississippi. Cam Scatabow went at

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Speaker 1: fifty two, running back from Arizona. Donovan Jackson went at

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Speaker 3: I don't see a massive need unless you really want

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Speaker 1: We're about thirty, we're about thirty picks away.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well you suggested the trade up for.

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Speaker 3: I'm redundant with it, but I would love their first

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Speaker 3: in Milroe. Yeah, and the rest of stuff I can

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Speaker 1: My question would be none of the teams. So cam

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Speaker 1: Giants haven't taken a quarterback, the Saints haven't taken a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: The teams that Dart's still there. Yeah, okay, I mean

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Speaker 1: I'm going to resume. Yeah, that's fine. All right, we're

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Speaker 1: within eighteen picks. Now, we're the top of the third round,

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Speaker 1: and your guy is still there, as are Caleb Johnson.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so do we think the Giants take a quarterback here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but they don't take three of them.

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Speaker 1: They don't take true enough. All right, so you want

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Speaker 1: to let it run, all right? Now we are within

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Speaker 1: ten picks. So they did take Jackson Darket's start at

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Speaker 3: a lot of great things about Dart. You take him there.

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Speaker 3: Okay, there's two two quarterbacks still out there. Were picking

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Speaker 3: ten picks, right, yeah, what are the running backs out there?

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Speaker 1: Well, you're looking at guys that didn't like the Neil

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's what we're gonna do. That's the way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not I don't now, I don't want to

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Speaker 3: Right, there's all pretty similar Martinez or you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, I'm gonna let it run. Okay, we

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Speaker 1: are up. Well, guess what, Jaylen Miller went to the Colts,

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Speaker 1: not the craziest thing I ever heard that late Shuck

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Speaker 3: I like all those guys all would be fine.

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Speaker 1: At what else will we look at their coin cornerback

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Speaker 3: I don't love that, not for my second pick.

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Speaker 1: No defensive line. You're looking at Vernon Broughton. He would

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Speaker 1: Jamary Caldwell might go a little bit earlier.

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Speaker 3: I think there's some buzz on him right now too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because he can actually rush the passer.

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Speaker 1: trade back offers. The Broncos are on the phone. They've

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Speaker 1: got pick eighty five. This is eighty three, this is

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Speaker 1: eighty three. So we're not going to get a premium

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Speaker 3: I'll take the extra pick, which could end to be

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Speaker 1: Back to spots. I'm not happy with anybody that's in

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Speaker 1: So if they're going to give us eighty five, I'm

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Speaker 1: Well, they got another pick coming at one twenty two.

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Speaker 1: If I give them pick one eighty five, can I

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Speaker 1: get up to one eighty two? Sixty five percent chance.

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Speaker 3: That that would be joy moving back two spots to move.

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Speaker 1: Back to spots, I would give up eighty three and

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Speaker 1: I would do that. They accepted it, okay, all right?

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Speaker 3: Who they won?

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Speaker 1: I'm just curious they came up to get Jalen Royals,

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Speaker 1: do we take at eighty five.

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Speaker 3: I'm cool with Caldwell. I like the backs. I would

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Speaker 1: Then the next question is what becomes now that we've

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Speaker 1: we move one of the Let's say we move our

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Speaker 1: because we're gonna have two of them, right, I got

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Speaker 1: no problem moving though, to change one twenty two to

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Now, I'm not sure the backs will fall that.

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Speaker 1: We don't pick again. Running one twenty three is what

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Speaker 1: we have. If I can, If I can flip say

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Speaker 3: I'm mentioned in that, I feel a lot better I can.

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Speaker 1: Then I feel good about taking shuck here, knowing that

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Speaker 1: Right that has a sixty sixty five percent chance. So

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Speaker 3: Pick next year, right right, We'll still have a third.

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Speaker 3: I'm cool with it that.

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Speaker 1: Tyler shuck it is okay. And now we're up at

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Speaker 3: Future picks only a third turned into a four.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right, the picks in between that one

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Speaker 1: I Vania Jared Wilson Center out of Georgia, Elijah Roberts

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Speaker 3: We already got that, and the Ravens stock R J. Harvey.

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Speaker 3: Would you consider nol I mean, I like the running

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Speaker 1: They'd be wide receivers available next year. They're always available.

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Speaker 1: I think in this situation, grab Caldwell. I think you

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Speaker 1: I think he ate Jamari.

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Speaker 3: Colwall here, double down on Oregon D line.

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Speaker 1: They can room together.

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Speaker 3: They'll be buddies.

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Speaker 1: So we get the quarterback. We get that, and we

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Speaker 3: We'll get a back. Yeah, I'm not worried about the back.

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Speaker 3: They'll get Martinez or well he just went to the Browns. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So okay, Higgins, I'm gonna let it run here, all right.

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Speaker 1: Right now, we have Derek Harmon, Tyler Shuck, Jamari Caldwell Okay, cool,

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Speaker 1: that's what we got. We're up now at pick one

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Speaker 1: twenty two. Here's the problem though, the running backs available.

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Speaker 1: Jaden Blue, No, that's not what I'm after, Trevor atn No,

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Speaker 1: Jarquez Hunter maybe, maybe, Brichard Smith, No, he doesn't. All

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Speaker 1: these small backs, Kalel Mullins, he's not good enough for that.

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Speaker 1: Cale mcgonagay, I think you don't force it. Baychhelle Touton

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Speaker 3: But I would take Tooton over the rest of those guys.

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Speaker 1: Now, if I look at the other positions, just best available,

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Speaker 3: Oh I do that?

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Speaker 1: We get the next pick coming to save On Jones,

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Speaker 1: R J. Mickens the safety at a Clemson. Isaac Tesla

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Speaker 1: the wide receiver out of Arkansas, Torery Hohrton, Jonash Sanker

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Speaker 1: the safety at of Virginia Gunner Helm. Is there an

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Speaker 3: Always consider a lineman?

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Speaker 1: But Kyle Williams being there to me as a gift.

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Speaker 1: Let's look at the interior to so you get Seth

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Speaker 1: Willie Lampkin, the guard out of North Carolina, Logan Brown

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Speaker 3: I like Lunton Brown, but I think I take Kyle Williams. Okay.

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Speaker 1: It's a value. Yeah, and we've got another pick here

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Speaker 1: I think you, guys, I think you have to. I

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm happy with him still being there. The other

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Speaker 3: I didn't like the rest of the backs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that works out. Okay. Now, now we have another

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Speaker 3: Okay, I consider secondary help. I'd consider a guard.

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Speaker 1: All right, guys, still available. Jordan Hancock, safety out of

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Canada Momfield the safety or i'm sorry, wide

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Speaker 1: the defensive lineman from SMU. That's not horrible. Yeah. Andrew Armstrong,

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Speaker 3: I'm out of the receiver.

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Speaker 1: I think he's just take an offensive lineman and be

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Speaker 1: State runs a lot of zone is what you're looking for. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that's kind of what you're looking for. He might

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Speaker 3: I would certainly like to add an offense.

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Speaker 1: But he is a monster. Yeah six seven?

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Speaker 3: Why not? Yeah? Sign up develop them for a year

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Speaker 1: Okay, So in this mock draft, we ended up with

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we weren't.

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Speaker 1: Weren't allowed to move in brown one and took Tyler's

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Speaker 3: I like that.

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Speaker 1: We moved up into ninety two and took Jamari Calbwell.

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Speaker 3: Okay, the lion got nice shot in the arm.

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Speaker 1: Then at one twenty two in the fourth round, we

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Speaker 1: We also took Bayshell Tooton, the running back out of

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Speaker 1: And then we got Jalen Travis, the offensive tackle out

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Speaker 3: We went back around and next year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we traded a three four three for four.

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Speaker 3: I like it. I don't on the door. I mean

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Speaker 1: I mean, just looking at the first five picks, you

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Speaker 3: It's pretty nice. It's pretty nice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I think you helped yourself out, But then

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, all right. I might even still be on

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Speaker 1: If you came out of five picks in the top

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Speaker 3: Touton, it's pretty strong, it's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: You had a pretty good da Yeah, yeah, draft.

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Speaker 3: And they fit what you're after. And there's a lot

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Speaker 3: a lot of athleticism, a lot of speed for each

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Speaker 3: for their respective position. Caldwell's really active. Him and Harmon

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Speaker 3: are buddiest room together. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good haul. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and then a project alignment. You know, I don't dislike it. No,

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Speaker 3: Quick question, yes, yes or no? They will trade a

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Speaker 3: future pick during this draft. They might get one back,

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Speaker 3: but I bet I say yes, I bet they moved.

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Speaker 1: Something right now. As it stands, the get eleven picks

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Speaker 1: next year. Yeah, they are not going to make eleven

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, all right, that's worth a fifth round picks

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Speaker 3: exactly exactly. You know, it's it's great to have all

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Speaker 1: That's not going to get it done. It doesn't get

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Speaker 3: I would say this like, it's not like if seventh

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Speaker 3: don't equal a first round pick. Yeah right, you know

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Speaker 3: they don't. Just not the way it works, right, I

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Speaker 1: And one of the things that Omar Khan has done

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Speaker 1: always gets another later pick. Something, something he gets let's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what might be? Yeah, and they might have more

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Somebody who was asking me today, well, I thought

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Speaker 1: they flipped one for a six round pick in the

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Speaker 1: Metcalf deal.

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Speaker 3: He does it all the time. He did with pick It,

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Speaker 3: and he did it with Johnson to every trade. At me,

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Speaker 1: I want to make that deal, but how about we

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it, Yeah, I love those guys.

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Speaker 1: Just throw toss that in.

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Speaker 3: then you come in and say let's just do that, no,

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Speaker 3: one's just say no.

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Speaker 1: Rights are already spreading about what they're going to do

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Speaker 1: with that pick. It's like it's like going, you know,

439
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Speaker 1: to the car dealer and okay, but toss me in

440
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Speaker 1: those those floor mats.

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Speaker 3: Right exactly. We already got a deal. We know you're

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Speaker 3: getting the car.

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Speaker 1: I want to get the car. I'm going to give

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Speaker 1: you the place match right.

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Speaker 3: You know. Yeah, DK metcalf found a home. That's and

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Speaker 3: I'll gladly give you.

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Speaker 1: The we got you two. Okay, we'll toss that in.

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Speaker 1: We'll give you I'm.

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Speaker 3: Going to say that's that's not going to make you

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Speaker 3: stop the deal.

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Speaker 1: Right Yeah. Anyways, let's get there a break. He is

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson, I'm Dale Lolly. We'll be back with more

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Speaker 1: right after this.

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Speaker 2: He's The Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and

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Speaker 2: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: And we are back. I am Dale Lolly, he is

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Speaker 1: the Matt Williamson and Matt. Bucky Brooks has put together

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Speaker 1: a list here from the In his opinion, the All pros,

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Speaker 1: Pro bowlers are future All Pros, pro bowlers, and overachievers

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Speaker 1: in this particular draft class. Okay, guys he thinks will

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Speaker 1: be All pros someday within the next three years, pro

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Speaker 1: bowlers within the next three years, and then his overachievers.

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Speaker 3: And as we say, all pro and pro bowler two different.

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Speaker 1: Things, two completely different things.

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Speaker 3: So think the All Pro list is gonna be short

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Speaker 3: for me?

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Speaker 1: At least it would be for me, but it's not

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Speaker 1: for Bucky is well, Bucky has five guys on that list.

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Speaker 3: Okay, instead of Genty.

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Speaker 1: Genty is ho there he is Travis Hunter.

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Speaker 3: I get it. But because he's so unique, can he

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Speaker 3: get All Pro votes if he's only playing seventy five

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Speaker 3: percent of the snaps at one position? It almost has

475
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Speaker 3: to be a full time And then to me.

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Speaker 1: It has to be a cornerback because he's not going

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Speaker 1: to get All Pro wide receiver. He's just not.

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Speaker 3: It's it's so this leg right, I forget, but it

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Speaker 3: might have been Daying there's four all pro spots, right exactly.

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Speaker 1: You're not getting one of those, not.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you'd have to play every snap and be

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Speaker 3: a full time receiver.

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Speaker 1: And hit it be better than oh, I don't know,

484
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Speaker 1: Chase and Jefferson, and it's just not going to happen, right.

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Speaker 3: So I mentioned I was listening to Dane today and

486
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Speaker 3: they was talking about Hunter, and in his opinion, he

487
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Speaker 3: thinks Hunter can be a top three NFL corner, right,

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Speaker 3: and a top ten NFL receiver. I think the competition

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Speaker 3: at receiver's.

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Speaker 1: Harder, way harder, way harder.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, but Pro Bowl, I mean that's what we're

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Speaker 3: talking about. All pros here. Ten doesn't get it done? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, three does.

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Speaker 1: He thinks Abdull Carter can be an all Pro and

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know about that.

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Speaker 3: Is it better Max Crosby?

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Speaker 1: Right, because he can't at tough time getting he can't

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Speaker 1: get there.

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Speaker 3: Right, right, I mean Max Crosby's gotta be dot Garrett Bosa, Parsons, Watt.

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Speaker 3: I mean I don't see that from Carter.

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00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 1: No, I don't either. Gent is number three. I see that.

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Speaker 3: Takuan and Henry are gonna last forever to.

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Speaker 1: Tyler Warren the tight end. Maybe here's the thing with

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Speaker 1: the tight ends. And I again, we did our top

505
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Speaker 1: ten list. It'll come out next Monday on Steelers dot

506
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Speaker 1: Com top ten offensive players, and I put Warren and

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Speaker 1: Loveland in the top ten in my top ten because

508
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Speaker 1: I bet I will too. They are safe picks and

509
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Speaker 1: they could be really good based on where But it

510
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Speaker 1: depends on where they go, what team they go to.

511
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Speaker 1: Do you use the tight end? Do you not use

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Speaker 1: the tight end? Are you gonna Are you gonna feature

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Speaker 1: them like the Raiders did with brock Bowers If you're

514
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Speaker 1: gonna do that.

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Speaker 3: So that's how Penn State used Warren, right, I mean

516
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Speaker 3: they featured him to no end. Is a new team

517
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Speaker 3: going to dedicate that, That's why I might doubt.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look at what happened and this year in Detroit,

519
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Speaker 1: like all of a sudden, now they have multiple wide

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Speaker 1: receivers that are catching the ball.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, back to Warren being at all pro though,

522
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Speaker 3: I mean Kelsey and Kittle will fade away, Yeah, fine,

523
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Speaker 3: Powers is in fade away. No, And I don't know

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Speaker 3: the Warren's much better off than the Laporters of the world.

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Speaker 1: But if again, if he landed in the right spot,

526
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Speaker 1: like right now, Trey McBride. McBride's ahead of him is

527
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Speaker 1: the right because he gets the ball all the time,

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Speaker 1: right right, he's a number two receivers, number one, number one. Yeah,

529
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Speaker 1: not that he's he's not a better player than many

530
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Speaker 1: of the other tight ends in the league. He's in

531
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Speaker 1: a great situation.

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Speaker 3: Situation, right, Yeah, And Warren gets Warren worries me just

533
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Speaker 3: because there's so many manufactured touches in the Penn State offense.

534
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Speaker 1: Is that going to happen at the NFL level?

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Speaker 3: Right? I think Loveland's better at getting open on his own.

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Speaker 1: Like if Warren went Let's say Warren goes to New

537
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Speaker 1: England for example, Kay, he might get the touches there.

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Speaker 1: I like that. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean if they have to trade back or whatever,

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Speaker 3: something weird happens, they take him at ten.

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Speaker 1: That would actually make a lot of sense for them.

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Speaker 3: But may would love it. Yeah, McDaniels is that he

543
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 3: knows exactly what to do with those dudes and pick

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Speaker 3: up more picks, right, Yeah, I like that. But if

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Speaker 3: he ends up in Chicago or Indy like he's been

546
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Speaker 3: rumored to, or the.

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Speaker 1: Jets, he catches sixty balls a year. He's not going

548
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Speaker 1: to be All pro.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, I mean I think Lovelin might have better

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Speaker 3: chance to be All Pro than more because if.

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Speaker 1: He hits, I think he could hit bigger. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: statistically like for fantasy, and he might because he's going

553
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Speaker 1: to go maybe a little bit later, goes to a charger,

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Speaker 1: goes to a better team.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, better quarterback, better just yeah, maybe they would

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Speaker 3: be all pros for me, not or Pro bowlers, not

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Speaker 3: all pros.

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Speaker 1: His fifth guy on this list is Jaylen Walker. If

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Speaker 1: he's an edge, yeah, could he be All Pro as

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Speaker 1: an inside backers and off the ball back chance because

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Speaker 1: he goes out and gets seven sacks? Yeah, as a

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Speaker 1: Kendrell Bell like rookie year or something like that. And

563
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Speaker 1: he goes and gets eight sacks as a rookie. And

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Speaker 1: could he be Zach Bond, who was right an All

565
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Speaker 1: Pro this year? Yeah, I could see him see that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that wouldn't blow me away. That's how I would use him.

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Speaker 1: I mean Bond was an edge until a year ago. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: now he's kind of both, you know, yeah, his Pro

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Speaker 1: Bowl guys, this isn't that hard to get to, right,

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Speaker 1: This is a little bit easier. This means they're probably

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Speaker 1: going to be in their top ten at their position

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Speaker 1: in three years. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Mason Graham is his

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Speaker 1: first guy on there. That's a tough nut to crack too.

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Speaker 3: Yeh. I say there's some serious.

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Speaker 1: I understand Cam Hayward's getting older, Chris Jones is getting older.

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Speaker 3: Right right, right, But I mean Jansen Carter isn't. Well,

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Speaker 3: everybody is, but I mean he's not going away.

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Speaker 1: Yeahster Lawrence, those guys aren't going anywhere. I mean some

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Speaker 1: of those over the next three years, right, like like

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Speaker 1: even in the Edge we didn't even talk about like Hutchinson.

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Speaker 1: I mean the guys that didn't finish the season, like

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Speaker 1: Lawrence got hurt. Those guys stay healthy. You're not cracking

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Speaker 1: those guys out there. He does have Colston Loveland on

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Speaker 1: that list.

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Speaker 3: I'm cool with that. I could see that I would

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Speaker 3: have both tight ends on that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I assume that the guys who are on the

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Speaker 1: All Pro lists are also on This is Will Campbell

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Speaker 1: and Arman Membo. Can they be top ten tackles.

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Speaker 3: Campbell could be a top ten guard.

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Speaker 1: He could be top ten guard.

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Speaker 3: I think Membo can be a top ten tackle.

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Speaker 1: He's a top ten right tackle.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know if that matters with the voting.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how much Bucky thought about right vers

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Speaker 3: left and all that.

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Speaker 1: I think it does. It matters like souls on his

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Speaker 1: own is on his own right because he's Tim and

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Speaker 1: Lane Johnson every year. Yeah, you know, right, but Lane

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Speaker 1: won't be wrong. But they don't necessarily look at that

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Speaker 1: when they're voting for the panel thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah thing, but there are some good young ones, the worfs,

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Speaker 3: and yeah, they're not going away. Yeah, those guys last

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Speaker 3: a long time.

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Speaker 1: Uh. Number five, here's Jihad Campbell, the linebacker from Alabama.

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Speaker 3: Linebacker might be easy, I could see that. Yeah, I

607
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 3: mean the Walker conversation he has. He gets sacks and

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Speaker 3: big plays.

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Speaker 1: Will Johnson and John A. Barron on the list.

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Speaker 3: Possible, but it's tough for us take the ball away,

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Speaker 3: make some big plays. Yeah, okay, he has Shador Sanders

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Speaker 3: and cam Ward on you. I was about to say, quarterbacks,

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Speaker 3: it's so easy all you have to I mean because

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Speaker 3: Josh all the good ones bow out. Well.

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Speaker 1: If he's saying top ten though, you're they take three yeah,

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Speaker 1: three from each conference. That means you have to be

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Speaker 1: one of the first two alternates to go to the

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. That's a tall test to ask for a

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Speaker 1: young quarterback.

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Speaker 3: I don't think either one of them is in that neighborhood. No.

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Speaker 3: Maybe Ward hits, but he's gonna have a tough time.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna have Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, But David Garrard went and high.

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Speaker 1: I understand that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, come on, being voted there, I'm not

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Speaker 1: I'm not. Yeah, being voted there is much different than

628
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Speaker 1: being than showing up in the game. I'm the ninth,

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Speaker 1: ninth guy that decided to go right right.

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Speaker 3: Everybody in the playoffs side, they don't want to play

631
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Speaker 3: body hurts. They're playing the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Walter Nolan, Oh yeah, could Yeah. His last guy on

633
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Speaker 1: there is Omari in Hampton.

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Speaker 3: I think that's pretty solid. Yeah. Is he a top

635
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Speaker 3: ten back, Baby, as soon as next year he's your

636
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Speaker 3: top ten back. It might be a top six or

637
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Speaker 3: seven back next year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. His red stars, which are guys that he thinks

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Speaker 1: are guys that he would pound the table for if

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Speaker 1: he were in a draft roan right now. His number

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Speaker 1: one guy is Shador Sanders.

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Speaker 3: I understand why people like him I just don't.

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Speaker 1: He has him as his top ranked player at quarterback reward. Wow,

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Speaker 1: I don't see it.

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Speaker 3: He's not alone. I've heard some analysts say that. I've

646
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Speaker 3: heard others say they got Jackson Dart ahead of them.

647
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Speaker 3: I know, based on the mobility factor. I've heard people

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Speaker 3: in the not think Dark's going to go ahead of

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Speaker 3: him on Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, based on the mobility factor. Sador Sanders is a

651
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Speaker 1: pocket passer, right, I mean like this, not that he's

652
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Speaker 1: a bad.

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Speaker 3: Athlete, it's not bad, but he's not a trump card.

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Speaker 1: Yeah he never did. He never ran.

655
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 3: I mean, if it's if it's Saints are picking, but

656
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 3: if this was Saints Nation Radio, I might take Dart

657
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 3: over Sanders, you know with Kellen Moore is my guy

658
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 3: and where I'm.

659
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: At, and he's a better athlete. Yeah, I don't love either,

660
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: but yeah I don't either. Number two on airs, Mason

661
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: Taylor the tight end out of lsu get.

662
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 3: I mean, the more we talked through the tight ends,

663
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 3: Oh never mind, this isn't a Pro Bowl and all

664
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 3: pro this is the guys he likes. Okay, sure I

665
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 3: get that. Yeah, I'm not going to tell Bucky who

666
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 3: he likes. You and who doesn't. Yeah, No, you don't

667
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 3: really like him.

668
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: He is Donovan azer Echo, the edge wretcher at a

669
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: Boston college unner, and I like him a lot.

670
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 3: He's a good run suffer too. Yeah, he was in

671
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 3: my top five and today.

672
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: When we were doing I heard an interview with him

673
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: somewhere recently. I'm like, that's I think he's got a

674
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: good bress. He got a good head on his shoulder.

675
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 3: Steps some of those edge guys don't. Yeah, he's pretty safe.

676
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, although, as Greg Lloyd once had this on his tea,

677
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: you're not hired to play edge rusher for you just disposition.

678
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 3: No, you're absolutely not.

679
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: You're hired to go.

680
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 3: At a different conversation day about Shador, they're like, oh,

681
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 3: people think he's cocky. I'm like, I don't hold that

682
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 3: against No. I want to be cock Ben was cocky,

683
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 3: Brady's cocky. I mean, like that's what I want. Yeah,

684
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 3: I don't want them to lack confidence.

685
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: I don't want to have to hear from his dad

686
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: every time, right and something happens.

687
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 3: I wish he was faster, and you know, I wish

688
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 3: that's an issue.

689
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: I wish he didn't take as many sacks as he

690
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: did right and hold the ball.

691
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 3: I don't care that he's cocky or yeah, that does

692
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 3: turn in your program around. That's what I want, right,

693
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 3: You better be cocky. If you're not, you're in the

694
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 3: wrong business. That doesn't bother me at all. In fact,

695
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 3: I want all my players to be cocky, right. I

696
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 3: want them all to think that they're really good. I

697
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 3: even said if his name is Shadoor Williamson, would they

698
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 3: would have a problem with it. I mean it's just

699
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 3: because I understand Dad's prime time and you know, like

700
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:46,239
Speaker 3: they just don't want to hear it.

701
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: Uh, Cam Scatibo, he has on this list pretty easy

702
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: to like. Well, there's a lot, yeah, definitely out there

703
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: to like. And he's he's a tough one.

704
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 3: Like he's not. For me, to be honest with you, I.

705
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: Don't think he fits necessarily what the Steelers want in

706
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: their running back right now. I think he's really talented,

707
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: but he's you think he's super talented. He's a between

708
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: the tackles runner. I think he's really talented. If you

709
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: want a guy that's going to grind out yardage for you,

710
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, he's nausey Harris.

711
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 3: If you want to if you're looking for a direct

712
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 3: replacement for Nause, that's he'll looking for something different, and he.

713
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: Might be he might end up being better at that.

714
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: I think he has better contact balance and vision than

715
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: has Yeah.

716
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 3: Definitely better vision, and they're probably equally or who's harder

717
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 3: to tackle? Is neither one fun?

718
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: Neither one is fun? Right right? Yeah? But in this

719
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: particular draft like draft, there weren't any the running back

720
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: that year was not good.

721
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 3: No, and we all agree Nase he had a good

722
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 3: career here. But if he was coming the Alabama version

723
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 3: of Nause, he's coming out in this draft. I don't

724
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 3: think he'd end up as a Steeler.

725
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: I think he'd be a second or third run draft.

726
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: I think were Scatabogo somewhere in there exactly.

727
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 3: I think it'd be like, but he wouldn't be the

728
00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 3: kind thereafter. Right, you know?

729
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: The final guy on his list here is Darius Alexander.

730
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 3: Hmmm. I don't problem with that either.

731
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: No, I think he's I think he's a good player.

732
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 3: I think I would like to have seen more dominance

733
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 3: at Toledo. Not like it was bad, but yeah, it

734
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 3: wasn't like he was just a grown men throwing people

735
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,720
Speaker 3: all round. You know, I would have liked a little

736
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 3: more than that.

737
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: He's really good at the Senior Bowl, right, and there's

738
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: a lot of tools there too.

739
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's going to be a good player.

740
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 1: He is heavy, heavy hands.

741
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 3: Yes, I don't think he's the next step onto it,

742
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 3: but I think he's different than Ty Robinson, you know

743
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 3: what I mean, He's better than like that group you

744
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 3: know that we like, we like all those guys.

745
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's Bucky's lister. Good interesting. Yeah, from that perspective,

746
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's anybody whould add are there's

747
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: some maybe some guys that would take off of that list,

748
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 1: But yeah, all pro's tough. All pros is a tough

749
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: nut to crack. Do you get five All pros out

750
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: of one draft? Right, it's a pretty good draft. I

751
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 1: forget what tackles?

752
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 3: Did he have? Membo and Campbell one all pro?

753
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: Yeah?

754
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 3: I meant to say this when when you brought those

755
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 3: names up. I mean, Fuaga Fatan who lath them? Alt?

756
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 3: I mean there was a lot of tackles drafted that

757
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 3: maybe haven't shown their true colors yet. Some of the

758
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 3: master yet the column.

759
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, some barely played last are going to be in

760
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: the league as long as those guys, and they're already there.

761
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: They're already there, right, and they're just basically the same

762
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: agency's got.

763
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 3: That's I mean, like they're gonna have to compete with

764
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 3: those six immediately, let alone while Lane Johnson's flu worse

765
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 3: and all those dudes.

766
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, it's gonna be tough. Yeah, Trent Williams still exists, right, Yeah,

767
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 1: So anyways, let's get to a break. He is the

768
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 1: Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lollie. You're listening to the Drive

769
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,239
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770
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,799
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771
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,200
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772
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,440
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773
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,360
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774
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,440
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779
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,759
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780
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,880
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781
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 2: At least he's the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

782
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 2: Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of the

783
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,959
Speaker 2: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

784
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: And we are back. I'm Dale Lolly, he is the

785
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 1: Matt Williamson and Matt Jackson. Dart has changed his mind

786
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: and will not attend the twenty twenty five NFL Draft.

787
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 1: Oh really, you think that's because he got news that

788
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: he wouldn't be taken in the first round.

789
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 3: Thank You's must be the family.

790
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: I don't know.

791
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 3: I wouldn't this is me, but it wouldn't be for me.

792
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 3: I would much rather be with my parents, wife, family friend.

793
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: He was one of three quarterbacks who were going to

794
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: be at the draft. Cam Ward obviously, Jalen Milroe is

795
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: going to be there. Yeah, I know that should Or

796
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: Sanders was not invited. Turned it down, Okay, Dart I

797
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: said yes and then change his mind. MIKEL. Williams also

798
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: changed his mind on that.

799
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 3: I wouldn't look too much into it. I think it's interesting,

800
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 3: especially from a quarterback perspective. Yeah. Do you think if

801
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 3: I said you have to pick one or the other,

802
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 3: Dart will be a first round pick. I'm saying you

803
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 3: would take him. Do you think he goes in the

804
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 3: top thirty two. I'm going to lean towards yes.

805
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 1: I'm going to lean towards yes.

806
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 3: I don't pay trade back or something like that.

807
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: I don't think that there are more than three quarterbacks

808
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: taken in the first round.

809
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 3: I think there'll be three.

810
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:52,919
Speaker 1: I think it'll be three.

811
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 3: Yeah.

812
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: Like if I if I was playing the over under

813
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: for Vegas.

814
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 3: And a half or three and a half, I'd go

815
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 3: under a Rover.

816
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do that real quick quarterback we just did

817
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: running back is I think it's just there's three the

818
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 1: over unders two and a half.

819
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Henderson's over under is like at twenty.

820
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think i'd go under that.

821
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 3: You'd go under two and a half, yeah, or you

822
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 3: go under, you go over Henderson's.

823
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: I would go over on Henderson because I don't think

824
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: he goes in the first round. I think it's two

825
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: and a half.

826
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I think there's three, but I might end

827
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 3: up with more than thirty two when we had them

828
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 3: all lot that's.

829
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: The problem right right wide receiver.

830
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,399
Speaker 3: I would go we sold Hampton goes like I could

831
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 3: see why someone might want Henderson and not Hampton.

832
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 1: In the draft. We mark draft we just did. He

833
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: did not go till round two.

834
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know that there'd be Yeah.

835
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: I think it's I think I would go under two

836
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 1: and a half.

837
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 3: Okay, I think there'll be three.

838
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: Wide receiver two. I think it's two.

839
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 3: I think two are a sure thing. I'd probably said

840
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 3: it a two and a half.

841
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: I might set it three and a half just to

842
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: be and I'd go under. Yeah.

843
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 3: But last year was weird, like get Pierce, all those

844
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 3: guys worthy they all went at the end of playoff teams. Yeah,

845
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 3: you know, someone trades up the ground. That was a

846
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 3: different different now it was a deeper. But I'm just

847
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 3: saying good teams might be like I just seed one,

848
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 3: give me Burden as my number two dude.

849
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I would still go. I think there's two yeah, yeah,

850
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: two tight ends.

851
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

852
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 1: I don't think a third gets in, although I could

853
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: see Kansas City maybe may taking it that shot.

854
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 3: But a two and a half, I'm going under.

855
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: Let's just say offensive line in general. I'm gonna say

856
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 1: maybe with the name though, Zabel, Yeah, Booker, I'm a

857
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: positive book.

858
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 3: To Top two tackles, Top two Tackles I think Jackson

859
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 3: goes and I think Simmons goes. Simmons, I'm sorry, Simmons.

860
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 3: I would say Jackson or book are not both. Yeah,

861
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 3: I don't see both Banks. Yes, that is the seven Campbell,

862
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 3: Membo Banks, Simmons, Zabel, I'm missing a tackle, Booker, I'm

863
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 3: definitely missing a tackle. See Baron or that you said

864
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 3: Banks and I said Banks. I think there's four tackles.

865
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 3: Four tackles.

866
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say four tackles and two interior linement that

867
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: gets you just six.

868
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 3: Gets you six. If it was six and a half,

869
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 3: I might go under. But O line always goes more

870
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 3: than you think.

871
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: Ye, interior defensive line. I'd said it a three and

872
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: a half.

873
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Speaker 3: Yes, I think all four deserve it. That the most.

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Speaker 1: I could see Grant being the one that falls out

875
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Speaker 1: of the first round, or Nolan because of maybe something

876
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Speaker 1: I don't I just think he goes. But I think

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Speaker 1: Grant as a nose tackle first, maybe falls out of.

878
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 3: The first rounds. Yeah, it might be like I can

879
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 3: ten picks and get Tyler Williams or two rounds and

880
00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 3: get called well right, three and a half.

881
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Speaker 1: The number edge might edge might be like seven.

882
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 3: Real quick on Detackle. Would you go over three and

883
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 3: a half or under? I probably go over, but it's.

884
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Speaker 1: The right line, it's the right line. Yeah, yeah, edge edge,

885
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 1: Carter's going yeah. I think both Georgia guys are going yeah.

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00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: Not what do you depend what do you consider Walker?

887
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 3: I consider him an edge, but you put him.

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00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: Here's the thing though with with that. So let's say

889
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: the team that drafts him, so we're gonna play him

890
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: off the ball. Yeah, do you then lose your right

891
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: and him and Campbell aren't that much different, they really aren't, right,

892
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: but Ones looking at his linebacker, Ones looked at an edge.

893
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Green's going Yeah. I think Pearson ezeriqe

894
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 3: are fifty to fifty. Stuart Stewart's probably going six. I

895
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 3: would go over six. Yeah, it's always a position the

896
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 3: man too. Yeah. Probably the number should be like six

897
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 3: and a half. Yeah, I mean the Eagles could screw

898
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 3: up your bat with the.

899
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Speaker 1: Last pick easily, easily easily they probably will.

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00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know two of.

901
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:05,479
Speaker 1: Below there or something?

902
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, anybody right, Yeah, Yeah, I think six and

903
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 3: a half is the number. I think it's like one

904
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 3: off the ball linebacker again, depending on Walker and edge

905
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 3: and Campbell linebacker.

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00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: It depends on what you call those guys. And again,

907
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: if you're if you're actually putting money on that, I

908
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: would want to know what happens.

909
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 3: Does it matter what the commissioner comes out of his

910
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 3: mouth or not? Or they just calling these guys what

911
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 3: they are? Right? So one or two depending how.

912
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: We call it corners I think you're looking at I

913
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: would say three. I would put the number like four

914
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 1: and a half.

915
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 3: They always there's always gonna be more than you think. Yeah,

916
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 3: but can ravel go in there? Benjamin? Those are major

917
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 3: ways I can't be imagine.

918
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,720
Speaker 1: Could is Eerie A Thomas somebody take that? I don't.

919
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 1: I don't see it, but you never know. The Tucky

920
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: dude could, Yeah he could, Amos could Johnson Baron? And Hunter?

921
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 3: Well, I wasn't thinking about Hunter then? Yeah, and quick Hunter.

922
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 1: That would be the other thing I want to clarify.

923
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: Are they saying he's he's definitely a cornerback, he's definitely

924
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 1: a wide receiver or it doesn't count as both right

925
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:19,479
Speaker 1: or yeah?

926
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 3: I don't know how they do.

927
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: Is it how the commissioner announces these guys? If he

928
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: announces because Hunter is told he wants to be announced

929
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: as a cornerback, wide receiver. But if they don't do that,

930
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: does that effect or if they do do it?

931
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,439
Speaker 3: I mean thirty three guys were take in the first

932
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 3: round for betting reason there you go.

933
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Speaker 1: I don't know that, but.

934
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Speaker 3: I would say, what five corners if we count hunter, Yeah,

935
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 3: I think that's a good number.

936
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: I think that's a good number, and then two safeties.

937
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm not positive they both go.

938
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Speaker 1: I put the number at one and a half and say,

939
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: and I would take the over, Yeah, two and a half.

940
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: I take the under, right, I mean it's that's two

941
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: and a half an easy under it. That's why I

942
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: think it would be said at one and a half.

943
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: I haven't looked at any of this stuff, right, right, right,

944
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: there's no way there's will be three. Right, we know

945
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: that no kickers.

946
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 3: The one and a half would have to be and

947
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 3: then maybe waited a little bit. Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah,

948
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 3: I bet if we add it up, but there's more

949
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:07,959
Speaker 3: than thirty two.

950
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 1: Probably, yeah, but it should it should be in this draft, yeah, yeah, yeah,

951
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: because that's just a lot. You know, we may have

952
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: thirty eight guys on there if I did the math

953
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: on it, but I.

954
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 3: Don't know if Vegas does that or not. When they

955
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 3: add up all their positions, is it equal thirty two

956
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 3: or is it just probably the money wherever they can

957
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 3: make the most money.

958
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 1: Is how they hear about that?

959
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 3: Right? They're not trying to get it right, Yeah, they're

960
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,399
Speaker 3: trying to get your money, yes, and they do it well.

961
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Speaker 1: Anyways, that's going to do it for our shows this week, Matt.

962
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Speaker 1: When we come back next week.

963
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Speaker 3: Draft Week is Draft Week? Only three shows next week though.

964
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Speaker 1: That is true. We're only on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. We

965
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 1: do have a special show with Mike Persuda on Wednesday

966
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 1: night on WDV.

967
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,240
Speaker 3: We also you can find us other places.

968
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Speaker 1: Oh yes, and we will have plenty of shows on

969
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio Draft Day then or all weekend. We

970
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: will have shows cover the entire time that the draft runs.

971
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,280
Speaker 1: We have a little previews each day that we start

972
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Speaker 1: to show. We started an hour early both days I

973
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Speaker 1: think Monday, even Thursday and Friday, and we'll take you

974
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Speaker 1: all the way through till the last pick.

975
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, that's what we do here. You and I'll be

976
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Speaker 3: doing a lot of legwork.

977
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Speaker 1: Absolutely. But for my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller

978
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Speaker 1: here on site running the Justin Miller Hotline. And Justin

979
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Speaker 1: will be logging a lot of hours.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got a long couple days coming to Yeah.

981
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Speaker 1: And for Tyler.

982
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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, yeah, just a marathon.

983
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: And Ford Tyler Vitmeyer making sure our video gets up

984
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Speaker 1: there onto YouTube. Check it out, give us the thumbs up,

985
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Speaker 1: leave us your replies and all that good stuff. I'm

986
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Speaker 1: Dale Lollie. We thank you for listening to this edition

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Speaker 1: of the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network.