WEBVTT - Lakers/Rockets Postgame Spaces

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<v Speaker 1>Mmmmm all right. Welcome to the State of the Lakers,

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<v Speaker 1>brought to you by Dash Radio. Thank you guys so

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<v Speaker 1>much for coming to hang out on a Tuesday. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of Laker basketball to talk over the next I

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<v Speaker 1>think we're playing four times in the next six days

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<v Speaker 1>counting tonight, so a lot of a lot of a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of game days, a lot of opportunities for the

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<v Speaker 1>Lakers to undo some of the nasty taste that we

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<v Speaker 1>have in our mouth from this five game losing streak.

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<v Speaker 1>Looked like it was gonna go south a few times tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>but Lebron didn't let that happen. Um, So I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>that for the first time in a long time, Rose,

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<v Speaker 1>you and I can talk about a Laker win. How

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<v Speaker 1>are you doing, Buddy? I am doing well, man. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The last Laker win was the Austin Reeves game winner,

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<v Speaker 1>which feels like two years ago. Um. But yeah, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of Laker games coming up here tomorrow again one

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<v Speaker 1>against Memphis. But how are you, man? How is your

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<v Speaker 1>week going? It is going good. I'm prepping for my

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<v Speaker 1>first ski trip of the year, and I looking at

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<v Speaker 1>the weather and seeing all this snow drop in on

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<v Speaker 1>the mountain I'm going to so I'm pretty stoked about that.

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<v Speaker 1>But hey man, let's let's dive right into it. So

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I thought the story of tonight's game was

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<v Speaker 1>the Lakers finally kind of leaning into their identity. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think we saw that right away with the starters.

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<v Speaker 1>Something that we've been preaching for this entire season, this

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<v Speaker 1>idea that this could be one of the best driving

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<v Speaker 1>kick basketball teams that we've ever seen, because you see

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<v Speaker 1>so many guys on the floor that are capable of

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<v Speaker 1>beating a guy at the point of attack, in making

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<v Speaker 1>reads and passes out of that for high quality offense.

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<v Speaker 1>It's something that I thought the Clippers had nailed down

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<v Speaker 1>to his science last year in the playoffs, and they

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<v Speaker 1>were doing it with lesser players. They were doing it

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<v Speaker 1>with Paul George as their best player, with Reggie Jackson

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<v Speaker 1>doing a lot of that driving kick work. They didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have anywhere near the personnel in terms of that specific

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<v Speaker 1>skill set that the Lakers had, And it was so

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<v Speaker 1>infuriating for me and for you as well, rog to

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<v Speaker 1>watch this team try to actively sabotage that specific skill set.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they're so good at driving the ball to

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<v Speaker 1>the basket, but we would play multiple bigs. We'd play

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of non shooters. We'd be in a situation

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<v Speaker 1>where we had our driving kick guys taking off the dribble,

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<v Speaker 1>pull up jump shots just about every time down the

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<v Speaker 1>floor at the start of these games, and obviously there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot still to work through. I don't understand why

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't play Dwight at all tonight. I would have

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<v Speaker 1>played him. Staggered with Lebron that said, I loved what

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<v Speaker 1>we saw from the starting lineup. I thought you saw

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<v Speaker 1>everyone look comfortable. Russ had a lot of bad rust

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<v Speaker 1>moments tonight, but he also had a lot of good

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<v Speaker 1>rust moments, and I thought he looked comfortable driving and kicking.

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron looked comfortable getting to the basket. Malik Monk looked comfortable,

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<v Speaker 1>even mellow, operating in his little isolation sets, just the

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<v Speaker 1>space that he had to oper He just looks so comfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>And with that team operating with confidence, especially as their

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<v Speaker 1>two best defensive forwards come back, a Resa and reeves

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<v Speaker 1>this team will get enough stops to where if they

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<v Speaker 1>can replicate this offense, they're gonna be a tough team

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<v Speaker 1>to beat. And then you plug Anthony Davis into that

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<v Speaker 1>and it gets even more exciting. But that was that

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<v Speaker 1>was I thought the story of the game. Rod starting

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<v Speaker 1>Stanley Johnson and dropping Dwight Howard, leaning into a five

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<v Speaker 1>out offense, driving kick, driving kick, driving kick, and just

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<v Speaker 1>all of our offensive players feeling comfortable. What did you think? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And it wasn't just Stanley Johnson, right, it was putting

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<v Speaker 1>Malik Monke in for th h T And I thought

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<v Speaker 1>that was very important. It looked like the offense flowed

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<v Speaker 1>a lot better. And this feels like we've really just

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<v Speaker 1>lean into and I've been on this from like I

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<v Speaker 1>think the fifth, the sixth game of the season. To me,

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<v Speaker 1>this season is about maximizing Russ. It's about making sure

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<v Speaker 1>lineups are kind of induced to help him play better,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of fit around his skill sets. You know, we

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<v Speaker 1>have the miss dunks and stuff like that, but there's

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<v Speaker 1>still a good player in where in Russ. There's still

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<v Speaker 1>a effective player, there's still a winning player there. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that starting lineup kind of pushes those correct

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<v Speaker 1>buttons I put in my notes here. Our first or

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<v Speaker 1>second basket was a Russ, you know, left or right,

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<v Speaker 1>drive right to the rim and he got to the

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<v Speaker 1>rim a lot tonight. There was a lot of miss

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<v Speaker 1>miss layup still at the basket, but he's getting to

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<v Speaker 1>the basket. And I thought, that's kind of what we

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<v Speaker 1>saw with the spacing. With that new starting lineup, Malik

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<v Speaker 1>Monk and Lebron have had an instant chemistry. I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, from the beginning of the season, I

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<v Speaker 1>think when he was out, we missed his offense. He

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<v Speaker 1>has a punch to him where like he can he

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<v Speaker 1>can drive to the basket or shoot. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>every time he gets into the dip of his jumper,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's going in like that's how clean it

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<v Speaker 1>looks when he's spawning up. But he's just been Him

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<v Speaker 1>and Lebron have a nice chemistry, man, and that that

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<v Speaker 1>stands out. But yeah, I thought the starting lineup really

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<v Speaker 1>helped russ Um get going. And still there's some bad passes,

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<v Speaker 1>some awful turnovers that Russ does, and those kind of

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<v Speaker 1>glare out more when you don't have Anthony Davis to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of take some of those possessions away, so you

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<v Speaker 1>see more when you you know up Russ is you

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<v Speaker 1>said you get you up the turn over? Is he

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<v Speaker 1>also up the numbers right, and I think he got

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<v Speaker 1>another triple double tonight. But yeah, that's what I think

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<v Speaker 1>the starting lineup did. Man, there's still a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>defensive concerns. To me, we gave up a lot of points,

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<v Speaker 1>especially the backup you know, center position booches Carmelo right now.

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<v Speaker 1>But Stanley Johnson looks good again. Him and Lebron are

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<v Speaker 1>able to switch actions. And that isn't me or just

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<v Speaker 1>Stanley Johnson just look huge and that like in any

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<v Speaker 1>lineup peace and he just but he just looks like

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<v Speaker 1>like massive, Like he's like he was dropped out of

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<v Speaker 1>another era and just dropped in, you know, like he

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<v Speaker 1>just looks absolutely like he doesn't fit with the players

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<v Speaker 1>are on the floor. It's like Darren Coulson and then

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<v Speaker 1>you know also every Bradley and then it's like Stanley Johnson.

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<v Speaker 1>Him and Lebron looked almost same size sometimes and they're

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<v Speaker 1>able to switch. And I thought, you know, that looked good.

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<v Speaker 1>He's still not hitting his jumper, he's still not scoring,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, at any kind of rate, but he looked good, man,

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<v Speaker 1>and it looked like this lineup is inducive to us.

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<v Speaker 1>We've leaned fully into the Lebron small ball. Lebron is

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<v Speaker 1>playing exclusively at center now, which is crazy kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the switch we've done. Yeah, Stanley's dude, I uh he

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<v Speaker 1>when he came through Tucson to go to the University

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<v Speaker 1>of Arizona, and I was fortunates get to play basketball

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<v Speaker 1>against him a lot over the year that he was there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I can speak from personal experience that he's just

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<v Speaker 1>a massive human And what's funny is he was massive

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<v Speaker 1>like that coming right out of high school. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>little similarity between him and Lebron is that they both

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<v Speaker 1>they both had their grown man body when they were

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<v Speaker 1>like sevent teens. Who the heck knows how that happens,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So, Malik Monk, you're starting to see a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of his cutting chemistry with Lebron, which is

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<v Speaker 1>something that we we've all we've seen throughout Lebron's career.

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<v Speaker 1>Players as they learn how to operate off the ball

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<v Speaker 1>with Lebron, they kind of, over the course of time

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<v Speaker 1>playing with him, they figure out where their opportunities were.

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<v Speaker 1>And we saw a lot of backdoor cuts from Malik

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<v Speaker 1>Monk today, which is interesting because that's why Avery Bradley

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<v Speaker 1>has had so much success, uh playing with Lebron cutting

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<v Speaker 1>on the backside, just kind of sneaking around and staying

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<v Speaker 1>a threat even when he's not at the three point line.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's the instant chemistry with Malie Can. Lebron

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<v Speaker 1>comes from three things. His ability to cut off the

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<v Speaker 1>ball to his ability to attack closeouts in a more

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<v Speaker 1>complicating way, meaning a complicated way, excuse me, Like he

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<v Speaker 1>can make complicated finishes around shot blockers at the basket,

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<v Speaker 1>he can make floaters, you can make pull up jump shots.

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<v Speaker 1>He can also do the next level reads out of

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<v Speaker 1>those clothesouts. And then lastly, he's a shooter. He can

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<v Speaker 1>knock down shots at a high rate. So when you

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<v Speaker 1>put those three things together, that's like your ideal off

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<v Speaker 1>ball Lebron teammate. Now. Defensively, he was all over the

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<v Speaker 1>place tonight, and that's the next thing, um that this

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<v Speaker 1>team's got to figure out is how to get more

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<v Speaker 1>stops with these smaller lineups. And I think a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of it will just be you know, taking you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because the Lakers only play eight guys tonight, which is

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<v Speaker 1>that was really interesting for a couple of different reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, they're on the front end of the

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<v Speaker 1>back to back, you know, so ideally you'd want to

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<v Speaker 1>play a deeper rotation, but again it's the COVID circumstances

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<v Speaker 1>at play here as well. The part that I got

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<v Speaker 1>confused with is Dwight should have played like Dwight. Dwight

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<v Speaker 1>is a quality backup NBA center. He has to be

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<v Speaker 1>in the lineup unless he's hurt or dealing with conditioning problems,

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<v Speaker 1>which that very well may be the case. We don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was playing the other day, so I don't

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<v Speaker 1>really understand. But it was interesting that they kept the

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<v Speaker 1>rotation super short under the circumstances. But when you get

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<v Speaker 1>guys back in there like Reeves like a reason, now

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<v Speaker 1>that becomes a ten man small ball rotation. And now

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<v Speaker 1>we now we can kind of ask for more out

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<v Speaker 1>of those guys defensively, because in an eight man rotation

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<v Speaker 1>like that, you just end up with guys playing big minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>And when they played big minutes, that's when they start

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<v Speaker 1>paying really close attention to their own personal fatigue, like

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<v Speaker 1>how much how much longer can they hold down the

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<v Speaker 1>turbo like we have. Stanley played thirty two minutes tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>which I'm fine with. I want him to play big minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>But Avery Bradley thirty one minutes, that's a lot, Carmelo

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony twenty eight minutes, that's a lot. Like you're asking

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<v Speaker 1>guys that are going to experience a drop off in

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<v Speaker 1>their defensive effort as their minutes increase. As guys get

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<v Speaker 1>back from the COVID protocols, they should be able to

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<v Speaker 1>be in a more traditional you know, here's your two

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<v Speaker 1>shifts or here's your one shift. You play your ass

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<v Speaker 1>off while you're in there, and then you know, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we can actually expect more from you defensively. So they've

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<v Speaker 1>got to figure out how to get more stops to

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<v Speaker 1>that group. But I just think it's really cool because

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<v Speaker 1>this is the identity of basketball that I've been pining

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<v Speaker 1>for this entire past eighteen months. This is modern basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>Modern basketball is five outs. That's what we did. That's

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<v Speaker 1>that that's the best way to maximize offensive talent in

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<v Speaker 1>today's NBA. And again, it's just about how can you

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<v Speaker 1>get stops with these smaller, primarily offensive minded players, And

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<v Speaker 1>I think they can. They're just gonna have to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of figure that part out. But this is this is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of my idealized version of the way this team

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<v Speaker 1>would play offense. Yeah, and with like with Russ playing,

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<v Speaker 1>you're almost never always five outright, because he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the one kind of that's that's inside. But tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>like Lebron played, you brought up the minutes that all

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<v Speaker 1>these guys are playing. You know, we played the eight

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<v Speaker 1>man rotation broadcade thirty nine minutes tonight. But it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>look like it was too much for him. It didn't

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<v Speaker 1>look like it was too much of a heavy kind

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<v Speaker 1>of load for him. A lot of his offense was just,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, throw it into the post and let him

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<v Speaker 1>playmake out of that. Jason, I think our offense is

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<v Speaker 1>getting better. It looks like we've added a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>kind of actions and stuff, a lot of off ball stuff, right.

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<v Speaker 1>We're getting a lot of baskets, off cuts, um, We're

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<v Speaker 1>running like a lot more split actions on week sides

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff that are involving on shooters like Malik Monk

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<v Speaker 1>and Carmelo run a lot of offside actions and it's

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<v Speaker 1>cool to kind of see that. We also spam like

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<v Speaker 1>the guard screen roles that are that are doing and

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron's Lebron's playing center, but he's still playing a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of point guard. A lot of his stuff is just playmaking.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet Yeah, so he's still doing a lot of playmaking,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think is easier for him. His playmaking again

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<v Speaker 1>is coming out of the post or just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>guard screens and try to make decisions out of that

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<v Speaker 1>didn't look too difficult. Houston is not a great team, right,

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<v Speaker 1>They don't have, you know, a really great They don't

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<v Speaker 1>play defense that well. I think they're one of the

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<v Speaker 1>worst defensive teams in the league. But it was nice

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<v Speaker 1>to just to see that. And again it's we can't

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<v Speaker 1>really be picking right now with Winds six five losses

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<v Speaker 1>in a row, so it's nice to just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>put the script there. But yeah, I think we're getting

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<v Speaker 1>better on offense, man, if we can fill these wings in.

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<v Speaker 1>And both of us would like Dwight to play, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think we'd much rather have this be the have

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<v Speaker 1>this be the place where they lean into, right, You'd

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<v Speaker 1>rather them lead into the small ball identity um, rather

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<v Speaker 1>than you know, lean into the two bigs and then

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<v Speaker 1>go with the small ball here and there. They lean

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<v Speaker 1>in all the way and I don't like how rigid

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<v Speaker 1>it is. I do think Dwight can play a few

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<v Speaker 1>minutes here and there. I still think he's a serviceable

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<v Speaker 1>backup center, especially those Mellow at the five minutes, those

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<v Speaker 1>are really a struggle. Although you know, Stanley Johnson next

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<v Speaker 1>to him makes it a little bit better look at

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<v Speaker 1>it in terms of the athleticism, Yeah, exactly, And he

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<v Speaker 1>definitely makes those lines a little bit better. It still

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<v Speaker 1>feels like a layup line a lot because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Stanley is usually still on the perimeter. Mellow likes to

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<v Speaker 1>stay in the paint, which makes sense, can't really move

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<v Speaker 1>his feet um and again that's where I think Dwight

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<v Speaker 1>can come in. But you know, Russ in those second

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<v Speaker 1>units gets to the basket a little bit more. I

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<v Speaker 1>do think the finishing should get a little bit better

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<v Speaker 1>at the ask, you right, people to usually shoot at

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<v Speaker 1>the rim. But he's getting there and that and that's

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<v Speaker 1>a good thing. But yeah, they lean all the way

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<v Speaker 1>into this super small ball, which makes it fascinating when

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<v Speaker 1>you know Reeves a Resa all those guys get back

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<v Speaker 1>because they are kind of built to play in this

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<v Speaker 1>kind of this kind of system. We'll see if Lebron

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<v Speaker 1>can kind of continue to hold up at center. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's nice that they've leaven into it, uh and it

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<v Speaker 1>took what games to get to get there, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>good that we're here, and hopefully eighty can kind of

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<v Speaker 1>come back and fill those spots. But it's it was

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<v Speaker 1>fun to kind of watch tonight at least the offense right,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think this really does help Russ be able

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<v Speaker 1>to pick his game up too. So my argument for

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<v Speaker 1>playing Dhite is the fact that he's a good NBA player.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that he didn't look good coming out of

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<v Speaker 1>the locker room, but like I've said to you so

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<v Speaker 1>many times, when you've walked the guy in the locker room,

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<v Speaker 1>when you walk the guy in the hotel room for

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<v Speaker 1>ten days, he's going to struggle to quickly adapt back

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<v Speaker 1>to playing NBA basketball. That's just kind of part of

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<v Speaker 1>the deal there, and that I would imagine that's even

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<v Speaker 1>exaggerated for big guys, you know, because so much of

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<v Speaker 1>what they do is based on their motor and they're conditioning.

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<v Speaker 1>My reasoning for playing Dwight is the exact same reason

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<v Speaker 1>why you don't play DeAndre Jordan's. You know, you're playing

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<v Speaker 1>DeAndre Jordan because you feel like you need a center.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's actually like one of the worst players in

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA. So actually, what you're doing is you're just

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<v Speaker 1>putting one of the worst players in the NBA out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Well with Dwight, we're having issues with talent, especially with

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Davis out. We're bringing in guys off the street.

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<v Speaker 1>We got guys like Darren Collison, who we might talk

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<v Speaker 1>about later may or may not still be an NBA player.

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<v Speaker 1>But the point is that Dwight is very much a

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<v Speaker 1>completely passable, maybe even good backup NBA center. He just

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<v Speaker 1>has to be he has to be out there. And

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<v Speaker 1>then the flip side of that is like kind of

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<v Speaker 1>bringing this to Lebron because I do want to go

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<v Speaker 1>in the direction of Lebron here. You know, Lebron at

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<v Speaker 1>center is easy on his body against most of the

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<v Speaker 1>teams in the league. Like a night like tonight, Lebron

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<v Speaker 1>had no issues playing center against Houston. There thin Christian

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<v Speaker 1>Wood wants to take him out on the perimeter and

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<v Speaker 1>take jump shots anyway, there's it's just not labor intensive.

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<v Speaker 1>And you saw that literally at the end of the game,

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<v Speaker 1>after playing all those minutes he dunked all over Christian

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<v Speaker 1>would like he wasn't even there. So the point is

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<v Speaker 1>is like physically he's fine there. But let's say Carl

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Towns tomorrow. Let's say you know Nicola Yokis down

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<v Speaker 1>the line, Let's say you know these Joe olmpide when

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<v Speaker 1>you're playing against these bigger centers. I think that's where

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<v Speaker 1>you're starting to talk about, Okay, can Lebron do this

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<v Speaker 1>physically for thirty nine minutes a night? Is that a

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<v Speaker 1>good idea? That's why I would keep Dwight in there

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<v Speaker 1>as your backup center, have him play a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>shifts every night, you know, in the minutes where you'd

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<v Speaker 1>normally had Mellow at center, and essentially just keep him

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<v Speaker 1>engaged and in shape and prepared to then have the

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<v Speaker 1>bigger role against the bigger centers. And then what I

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<v Speaker 1>would do, like like tomorrow night against uh Karl Anthon.

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<v Speaker 1>Excuse me, they play Memphis, so they play uh Steven Adams.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's wrong about that, but oh, I think we

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<v Speaker 1>played Minnesota a couple of games from now, if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not mistaken, maybe later this week, but anyway, against Steven Adams, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>rather than go big and put d White on Steven Adams,

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<v Speaker 1>what I would do is I just say, like Lebron's

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<v Speaker 1>starting at center, run them off the floor. Like with

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<v Speaker 1>that lineup, just run, run, run, run, run. Maybe Steven

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<v Speaker 1>gets a couple offensive rebounds here there, but over the

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<v Speaker 1>course of the that stretch of basketball, you have the advantage.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I'd bring Ed White in and have him

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<v Speaker 1>spell in the in the non Lebron minutes. But I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to talk about Lebron for a minute because I

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<v Speaker 1>think what you're seeing here is kind of an idealized

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<v Speaker 1>version of him. And I don't think it's coincidental because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he did dunk on Christian Wood tonight, but

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<v Speaker 1>this hasn't been a year for him as a high flyer,

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<v Speaker 1>so you can kind of we can all kind of

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<v Speaker 1>admit to the fact that physically he's not the same

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<v Speaker 1>guy that he was, you know, back in two thousand eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>That goes without saying. However, his efficiency is up across

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<v Speaker 1>the board. I tweeted about this earlier today. He right

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<v Speaker 1>now is shooting a higher percentage in the restricted area

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<v Speaker 1>then he hasn't any of his years since he left Miami.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a that's an awesome number, especially when you factor

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<v Speaker 1>in how many of his minutes at the beginning of

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<v Speaker 1>the season, we're alongside DeAndre Jordan's. But he's also shooting

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<v Speaker 1>near the top of his career highst for shots in

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<v Speaker 1>the mid range and his overall true shooting percentage. He's

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<v Speaker 1>just he's just having an extremely efficient scoring season. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think a big part of that is this recent

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<v Speaker 1>move into this modern idea of what basketball should be,

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<v Speaker 1>this five out basketball. And to your point about Lebron

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<v Speaker 1>playing the point, his assist numbers are down this year

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<v Speaker 1>because he's been so deferential to Russ and he's done

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<v Speaker 1>so much work as a screener and off the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>But what you saw tonight is what the team needs

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<v Speaker 1>to be. Lebrons to defer to Russ only when he's

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<v Speaker 1>fatigued or when he out of the game, and when

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<v Speaker 1>he's on the floor, he needs to play that role.

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<v Speaker 1>This team has always been at their breast when Lebron's

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<v Speaker 1>a tennisi ist guy and not a five assist guy,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Like when Lebron's at the

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<v Speaker 1>top of the key, surrounded by shooters, or at the

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<v Speaker 1>elbow surrounded by shooters and cutters, just picking you apart

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<v Speaker 1>with his brain. That's when he's at his best, and

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<v Speaker 1>then which what inevitably ends up happening is guys all

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<v Speaker 1>glue up to their man and now he's playing one

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<v Speaker 1>on one basketball, and that's how he ends up with

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<v Speaker 1>these super efficient shooting numbers. But again, what you saw

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<v Speaker 1>tonight is a little bit different than what we've seen

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<v Speaker 1>from Lebron for a lot of this season because he's

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<v Speaker 1>been deferring to Russ so much, and I think we

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<v Speaker 1>need to kind of try to bottle that up a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit and repeat it moving forward. Have Lebron make

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<v Speaker 1>more of the decisions. Have Russ when Lebron's on the floor,

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<v Speaker 1>be more of an off ball guy, because what you

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<v Speaker 1>saw there is peak Lebron ball, top of the key,

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<v Speaker 1>elbow extended one of those two spots either with a

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<v Speaker 1>live dribble or out of your threat. That's where's that

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<v Speaker 1>his best? Yeah, and we're starting to playing with Billie

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<v Speaker 1>nice cutters, right, I think again, going back into Leak Monk,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a big part of it as well,

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<v Speaker 1>playing with guys who move off the ball. Every Bradley

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<v Speaker 1>is not a shooter, but he is a nice cutter,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought he got a lot of baskets off that,

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<v Speaker 1>and again it looks like we're getting into second and

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<v Speaker 1>third kind of production of our offense as well, like

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<v Speaker 1>we're getting into more movement, a lot more cutting, and

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron is able to just find guys. It's it's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>the Russ you know Lebron dynamic there because I think

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<v Speaker 1>the starting lineup is all intertwined into that as well,

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<v Speaker 1>like the r late game offense, and I was just

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron in the post or it was also Rust Lebron

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<v Speaker 1>screen and roll right like Russ was able to attack

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<v Speaker 1>the basket. I think he got a lay up off

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<v Speaker 1>the uh he found Lebron twice cutting and you're getting

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<v Speaker 1>to see Lebron as a cutter with which I think

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<v Speaker 1>is great when when he's at the center position. That's

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<v Speaker 1>just a really tough cover. You have Rust Lebron running

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<v Speaker 1>a screen role, Lebron rolls and him as a roller.

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<v Speaker 1>It just creates a whole bunch of havoc. If you

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<v Speaker 1>don't help on that, he's able to dunk on you. Still.

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<v Speaker 1>You talked about the dunk on. I think Christian would

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<v Speaker 1>he had to lay up at the end as well.

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<v Speaker 1>You're seeing just a full of transformation, and he's been

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<v Speaker 1>just incredible. I think it's what thirty thirty and like

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen games this year, which is tied for I believe

0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:11.400
<v Speaker 1>Trey Young. I think pick Up Whop tweeted that out.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, he's just been incredible of this season man

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<v Speaker 1>and his jumper to every time he shoots. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's pretty much going in now and becoming just

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<v Speaker 1>a great jab step, pull up jump shooter this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Um and then just as a cutter. But he's been awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>The team hasn't you know, matched his play, which has

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<v Speaker 1>been sad, but it's been great to at least see

0:19:28.800 --> 0:19:30.919
<v Speaker 1>him still be at that level. He's still had a

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<v Speaker 1>top three, you know, producing player in this league, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's the most important thing for the season.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're starting to put players around him that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of make things easier for him, which was the whole

0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:44.320
<v Speaker 1>point of putting an offensive, you know, laated team around him.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're seeing the kind of advantage of that again

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<v Speaker 1>tonight thirty nine minutes. I just didn't think it was

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<v Speaker 1>too difficult. Houston's defense is part of that. They're not great.

0:19:52.359 --> 0:19:54.720
<v Speaker 1>They lose guys off ball time all the time. But

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<v Speaker 1>this is just the role I think he'll be in

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it will be fascinating. Also when a

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<v Speaker 1>d comes back how he kind of fits around it too.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, Lebron was great, man. It was just throwing it,

0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:05.600
<v Speaker 1>throwing it to him in the post. If they trapped,

0:20:05.640 --> 0:20:07.680
<v Speaker 1>he finds the cutter. If not, it's a fadal Way jumper.

0:20:07.680 --> 0:20:10.359
<v Speaker 1>It's a bullyball to the basket. I think only like

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<v Speaker 1>three free those with like three minutes left or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Still not getting to the line as much as you

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<v Speaker 1>would think. But he's just been awesome. He's been getting

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<v Speaker 1>to the basket. You have no complaints about Lebron these

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<v Speaker 1>last six games, Yes, six games, so five of them

0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:26.159
<v Speaker 1>had been losses. But I think he's played well and

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<v Speaker 1>all of them, which is which is great. Well, people

0:20:28.320 --> 0:20:31.119
<v Speaker 1>need to adjust our expectations, like we given the personnel

0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:33.280
<v Speaker 1>that we've had at our disposal over the course of

0:20:33.280 --> 0:20:36.359
<v Speaker 1>the last couple of weeks, winning NBA basketball games is

0:20:36.440 --> 0:20:41.040
<v Speaker 1>damn near impossible. That's just the reality of the situation.

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<v Speaker 1>We're trying to project forward here, and that's that's what's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of exciting about this is it's not like where

0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:51.800
<v Speaker 1>Lebron's groin injury was completely devastating to any chance of

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<v Speaker 1>making the playoffs because of the fact that the West

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<v Speaker 1>was so deep that you had to be significantly over

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<v Speaker 1>five to get in. Like like said in a couple

0:21:00.840 --> 0:21:03.560
<v Speaker 1>of pods ago, the Lakers could hover around five hundred

0:21:03.640 --> 0:21:06.720
<v Speaker 1>this whole time that Anthony Davis is out and still

0:21:06.760 --> 0:21:08.720
<v Speaker 1>easily end up with the four or five seeds, Like

0:21:08.800 --> 0:21:11.840
<v Speaker 1>that's very much on the table because of the fact

0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:15.000
<v Speaker 1>that the West is is pretty weak. And then obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>like the most exciting part about it is Anthony Davis

0:21:18.440 --> 0:21:20.760
<v Speaker 1>I think is an awesome plug and play guy into

0:21:20.760 --> 0:21:23.359
<v Speaker 1>a five out system, I think he could be. I

0:21:23.359 --> 0:21:25.960
<v Speaker 1>think he could be devastating in a five out system

0:21:25.960 --> 0:21:28.800
<v Speaker 1>attacking close outs, just because of his outrageous size and

0:21:28.800 --> 0:21:32.000
<v Speaker 1>ability to handle the basketball, and especially if he's not

0:21:32.080 --> 0:21:34.480
<v Speaker 1>that first guy when you're not depending on him to

0:21:35.080 --> 0:21:38.200
<v Speaker 1>beat somebody out of a standstill, but rather attacking closeouts.

0:21:38.240 --> 0:21:40.720
<v Speaker 1>I think he could be so so so good at that.

0:21:41.600 --> 0:21:44.240
<v Speaker 1>But you know, looking forward at the style like this

0:21:44.280 --> 0:21:46.960
<v Speaker 1>is because you had mentioned, you know, Houston's bad defense,

0:21:47.160 --> 0:21:50.320
<v Speaker 1>and that's true that needs to be acknowledged here. However,

0:21:51.440 --> 0:21:55.080
<v Speaker 1>the reality is is five out basketball is extremely difficult

0:21:55.080 --> 0:21:58.640
<v Speaker 1>to guard because everyone's in space, and as we know,

0:21:59.000 --> 0:22:02.040
<v Speaker 1>it's just really dive the colt from the basket to

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<v Speaker 1>keep somebody in front of you, no matter how good

0:22:04.080 --> 0:22:08.359
<v Speaker 1>you are. That's that, especially when you've got players the

0:22:08.400 --> 0:22:11.720
<v Speaker 1>caliber of Lebron and the caliber of Russ, which say

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<v Speaker 1>what you want about Russ, and he's had a boatloaded

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<v Speaker 1>issues this year. God knows, I've been one of the

0:22:15.440 --> 0:22:18.520
<v Speaker 1>guys pointing those out. But he does not have problems,

0:22:18.680 --> 0:22:21.040
<v Speaker 1>have a problem beating guys off the dribble, you know

0:22:21.080 --> 0:22:23.200
<v Speaker 1>what I mean, That's not his issue. So the point

0:22:23.280 --> 0:22:26.000
<v Speaker 1>is is like that, in general, this style gets very

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<v Speaker 1>difficult to guard. For instance, Utah last year, I think

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<v Speaker 1>they were the number three defense in the entire league.

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<v Speaker 1>They had a scheme that worked for them in the

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<v Speaker 1>day in and day out system in the In the

0:22:37.160 --> 0:22:41.080
<v Speaker 1>regular season, however, they ran into the Clippers. The Clippers

0:22:41.119 --> 0:22:45.280
<v Speaker 1>spaced them out, and suddenly they had a one thirty

0:22:45.480 --> 0:22:50.440
<v Speaker 1>defensive rating in that series. One thirty. Can you can

0:22:50.480 --> 0:22:54.760
<v Speaker 1>you imagine how like that is atrocious. They could not

0:22:55.400 --> 0:22:58.960
<v Speaker 1>get a stop against the Clippers, and the Clippers didn't

0:22:59.000 --> 0:23:02.240
<v Speaker 1>even really have that much talent relative to some of

0:23:02.280 --> 0:23:03.879
<v Speaker 1>the other teams they would have had to face to

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<v Speaker 1>make it to the championship, which is exactly why I've

0:23:06.320 --> 0:23:08.639
<v Speaker 1>been preaching about this so much. Guys like this is

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<v Speaker 1>how basketball works these days if you need to get

0:23:12.160 --> 0:23:15.639
<v Speaker 1>guys out in space, because it's just extremely difficult to

0:23:15.680 --> 0:23:18.600
<v Speaker 1>cover them, no matter how good you are at a

0:23:18.680 --> 0:23:23.320
<v Speaker 1>specific position Defensively. Rudy Gobert was useless in that series,

0:23:23.359 --> 0:23:26.640
<v Speaker 1>and it wasn't his fault. It's just that they spaced

0:23:26.680 --> 0:23:28.960
<v Speaker 1>him out. He was out of the play. He would

0:23:29.040 --> 0:23:31.640
<v Speaker 1>step over and rotate to help. On a drive, they

0:23:31.760 --> 0:23:33.480
<v Speaker 1>kick it out to the corner and the next guy

0:23:33.520 --> 0:23:35.840
<v Speaker 1>would get beat and it'd be over, or the next

0:23:35.880 --> 0:23:38.760
<v Speaker 1>guy wouldn't even make the rotation and he'd make it three.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just difficult to to to even attempt to stop

0:23:43.440 --> 0:23:45.560
<v Speaker 1>people when they're in this kind of system, which is

0:23:45.720 --> 0:23:48.640
<v Speaker 1>takes me to what excites me about this team, because

0:23:48.960 --> 0:23:52.600
<v Speaker 1>not only are they capable of it offensively, but in theory.

0:23:52.640 --> 0:23:55.639
<v Speaker 1>There are lineups that exist on this roster. Line ups,

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<v Speaker 1>especially now that Stanley Johnson is on the roster, but

0:23:59.400 --> 0:24:03.119
<v Speaker 1>you could go with Lebron, Anthony Davis, Trevor Rees is

0:24:03.240 --> 0:24:08.120
<v Speaker 1>Stanley Johnson and someone like Russ And now it's like,

0:24:08.400 --> 0:24:10.240
<v Speaker 1>take your pick, which guy are you gonna try to

0:24:10.320 --> 0:24:14.399
<v Speaker 1>drive by? Okay, so you've decided it's Austin Reeves or

0:24:14.440 --> 0:24:17.080
<v Speaker 1>Stanley Johnson or Russell Westbrook. Cool. Well, the other four

0:24:17.119 --> 0:24:19.240
<v Speaker 1>guys on the floor are all six eight and can

0:24:19.320 --> 0:24:22.439
<v Speaker 1>run and and can cover ground. So it's like, you

0:24:22.480 --> 0:24:26.000
<v Speaker 1>know that the Lakers were always built to play this

0:24:26.080 --> 0:24:29.280
<v Speaker 1>modern style of basketball, and this has been one of

0:24:29.320 --> 0:24:31.639
<v Speaker 1>the things that I've been so frustrated about with Frank.

0:24:31.680 --> 0:24:36.040
<v Speaker 1>He just was really slow to accept that. And I

0:24:36.119 --> 0:24:38.720
<v Speaker 1>thought tonight when I saw that starting lineup come out,

0:24:38.760 --> 0:24:41.000
<v Speaker 1>I immediately got excited because I was like, you don't

0:24:41.000 --> 0:24:43.280
<v Speaker 1>put that starting line up out there unless you finally

0:24:43.359 --> 0:24:45.800
<v Speaker 1>understand that this is the strength of your team. So

0:24:46.119 --> 0:24:49.080
<v Speaker 1>it definitely is exciting. Yeah, And I think, you know,

0:24:49.520 --> 0:24:51.840
<v Speaker 1>th HD has had a really rough you know, a

0:24:51.840 --> 0:24:54.640
<v Speaker 1>few games, and you had a comparison to th HD

0:24:54.720 --> 0:24:57.040
<v Speaker 1>as well, uh today that that a lot of people

0:24:57.119 --> 0:24:59.560
<v Speaker 1>jumped on for. But he's a good defender to me,

0:24:59.600 --> 0:25:01.639
<v Speaker 1>And I thought, you know, tonight, that's why I was

0:25:01.680 --> 0:25:03.760
<v Speaker 1>kind of frustrated. I wish they switched more actions and

0:25:03.800 --> 0:25:06.520
<v Speaker 1>I thought, that's kind of the team that will eventually

0:25:06.560 --> 0:25:09.080
<v Speaker 1>see um they were still doing like trapping and try

0:25:09.160 --> 0:25:11.000
<v Speaker 1>to get back, And I thought, you know, any screen

0:25:11.000 --> 0:25:14.440
<v Speaker 1>action that Lebron that involves Lebron, THHD and Stanley Johnson,

0:25:14.920 --> 0:25:16.640
<v Speaker 1>I would have loved to see them just switch any

0:25:16.640 --> 0:25:18.639
<v Speaker 1>of that. It's kind of interesting how the season has

0:25:18.720 --> 0:25:20.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of gone right because again I keep talking about

0:25:20.600 --> 0:25:23.120
<v Speaker 1>how we were sold this starting lineup to start the year,

0:25:23.160 --> 0:25:25.959
<v Speaker 1>and obviously a reason being hurt was kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>excuse I guess, or the reason or however you want

0:25:28.560 --> 0:25:30.960
<v Speaker 1>to call it for them going into the other two

0:25:31.040 --> 0:25:32.679
<v Speaker 1>leaning into the other way of that right, And now

0:25:32.720 --> 0:25:35.080
<v Speaker 1>I think it's interesting you could have you could think

0:25:35.080 --> 0:25:36.480
<v Speaker 1>of like there was two ways to go with that.

0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:38.639
<v Speaker 1>You could have found like a fact similar of reason,

0:25:39.160 --> 0:25:41.479
<v Speaker 1>or you could or they went right back into this

0:25:41.600 --> 0:25:44.160
<v Speaker 1>too big lineup, And I think I would have loved

0:25:44.160 --> 0:25:46.280
<v Speaker 1>to see what that looked like like if Bays could

0:25:46.280 --> 0:25:48.320
<v Speaker 1>have just filled in for a reason during that time.

0:25:48.320 --> 0:25:50.480
<v Speaker 1>How different does this team look? Do they gell a

0:25:50.520 --> 0:25:53.119
<v Speaker 1>little bit earlier? Like those are questions that probably we

0:25:53.160 --> 0:25:56.120
<v Speaker 1>can't answer anymore, but that stuff that's really interesting interesting

0:25:56.119 --> 0:25:57.920
<v Speaker 1>to me. But that's kind of where this team is going.

0:25:58.400 --> 0:26:00.960
<v Speaker 1>You talked about, you know, Stanley Johnson playing a bunch

0:26:00.960 --> 0:26:03.960
<v Speaker 1>of minutes. Now we'll see if he stays. We'll see

0:26:03.960 --> 0:26:05.560
<v Speaker 1>if he stays, right. I hope he does. It looks

0:26:05.560 --> 0:26:07.800
<v Speaker 1>like he's shown enough. But they stuff I think cuts

0:26:07.800 --> 0:26:09.800
<v Speaker 1>someone to kind of keep him. But that's just that

0:26:09.840 --> 0:26:12.760
<v Speaker 1>player kind of archetype him aresa next to Lebron Like

0:26:12.800 --> 0:26:14.840
<v Speaker 1>that's a really interesting five and it's like we're just

0:26:14.880 --> 0:26:17.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna go with the super small ball lineups. I think

0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:19.880
<v Speaker 1>it's I think it's really telling that DeAndre Jordan can't

0:26:19.880 --> 0:26:21.920
<v Speaker 1>get a you know, a single minute, or even Dwight

0:26:21.920 --> 0:26:23.919
<v Speaker 1>Howard to a lesser extent. I think Dwight will eventually

0:26:24.040 --> 0:26:26.520
<v Speaker 1>again the rotation, but DeAndre Jordan cannot get off the

0:26:26.560 --> 0:26:29.359
<v Speaker 1>floor when we're playing, like you said, a guys in

0:26:29.440 --> 0:26:31.880
<v Speaker 1>the first of a back to back, Like that's really

0:26:31.880 --> 0:26:34.119
<v Speaker 1>telling to me, Like that's kind of showing where the

0:26:34.119 --> 0:26:37.360
<v Speaker 1>team is and where it's going. And uh, I think

0:26:37.359 --> 0:26:40.320
<v Speaker 1>it shows for positive, positive positivity going forward. I would

0:26:40.440 --> 0:26:42.600
<v Speaker 1>I want to see still Kendrick Nunn get some time.

0:26:42.840 --> 0:26:45.760
<v Speaker 1>I think Darren Caulson is interesting, right, He's still he

0:26:45.840 --> 0:26:47.959
<v Speaker 1>looks like he's still trying to, you know, catch up

0:26:48.000 --> 0:26:50.320
<v Speaker 1>to being caught up. Like he's like two weeks he's

0:26:50.320 --> 0:26:52.280
<v Speaker 1>like a week away from being a week away U,

0:26:53.480 --> 0:26:55.000
<v Speaker 1>which is the way I would see it. Like he's

0:26:55.040 --> 0:26:57.800
<v Speaker 1>like a step slower than everybody, which makes sense. He

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<v Speaker 1>had a nice drive on the baseline tonight to get

0:27:00.160 --> 0:27:01.720
<v Speaker 1>a basket, but you can tell he's just not in

0:27:01.840 --> 0:27:05.280
<v Speaker 1>any kind of basketball conditioning. It doesn't matter how much

0:27:05.359 --> 0:27:07.840
<v Speaker 1>how much in shape you stay. But again, I think

0:27:07.840 --> 0:27:10.320
<v Speaker 1>he's just a fill in until Kendrick Nunn gets back.

0:27:10.359 --> 0:27:12.200
<v Speaker 1>And I think those are just player archetypes. So you

0:27:12.200 --> 0:27:13.879
<v Speaker 1>can kind of see and see the vision here a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. I'm still on the like I need to

0:27:16.160 --> 0:27:18.479
<v Speaker 1>see more wins, I guess, because this is gonna be

0:27:19.000 --> 0:27:21.359
<v Speaker 1>a really big stretch here. I think we play we

0:27:21.400 --> 0:27:25.200
<v Speaker 1>play Memphis Tomorrow's. He's been killing everyone that they play.

0:27:25.280 --> 0:27:27.679
<v Speaker 1>They got John rampec Um. It's gonna be interesting. They

0:27:27.680 --> 0:27:30.520
<v Speaker 1>can kind of hover around five hundred. You said, the

0:27:30.520 --> 0:27:33.240
<v Speaker 1>standings have kind of leveled off to where the middle

0:27:33.240 --> 0:27:35.360
<v Speaker 1>of the pack is all still kind of bunched up

0:27:35.560 --> 0:27:37.239
<v Speaker 1>and you can kind of catch up. But it's interesting, man,

0:27:37.240 --> 0:27:39.119
<v Speaker 1>it looks like, we really lean into this though, this

0:27:39.440 --> 0:27:41.360
<v Speaker 1>super small ball and this is the way you want

0:27:41.359 --> 0:27:43.680
<v Speaker 1>to lean I like it. It's a little too rigid

0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:45.360
<v Speaker 1>for both of us. We want to see dhy I play,

0:27:45.440 --> 0:27:47.760
<v Speaker 1>but we're kind of happy right with with them leaning

0:27:47.760 --> 0:27:50.120
<v Speaker 1>into this because I think it's just it just makes

0:27:50.160 --> 0:27:52.080
<v Speaker 1>everyone else on the on the team look better. It

0:27:52.080 --> 0:27:54.680
<v Speaker 1>allows them to run actions that makes sense. You're having,

0:27:54.720 --> 0:27:57.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, Malik Munk coming off two pin downs and

0:27:57.800 --> 0:27:59.639
<v Speaker 1>then you have like Carmelo cutting off of that, like

0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:01.560
<v Speaker 1>just put you off into players. I think it's a

0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:05.800
<v Speaker 1>better positions. Oh, absolutely, And then it just gives them more,

0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:10.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, desire to even attempt to do the job defensively,

0:28:10.080 --> 0:28:11.640
<v Speaker 1>which is something you and I have been preaching about

0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:13.639
<v Speaker 1>all your The Callison thing is hilarious if you think

0:28:13.640 --> 0:28:15.720
<v Speaker 1>about it, because we saw a report that came out

0:28:15.760 --> 0:28:18.080
<v Speaker 1>today actually wasn't report. I think it was a straight

0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:21.600
<v Speaker 1>up interview from Steve Nash with him saying, yeah, we're

0:28:21.640 --> 0:28:24.200
<v Speaker 1>not gonna play Kyrie until the conditions for two weeks,

0:28:24.240 --> 0:28:27.879
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, okay, meanwhile, Darren Collison, I'm I'm pretty

0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:30.240
<v Speaker 1>sure it was like some sort of youth minister before

0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:33.639
<v Speaker 1>he before he showed up in the in the Lakers jersey,

0:28:33.720 --> 0:28:36.320
<v Speaker 1>so like, and he just stepped out there and started playing.

0:28:36.400 --> 0:28:39.040
<v Speaker 1>And so I mean, it's just that just goes to

0:28:39.080 --> 0:28:42.360
<v Speaker 1>show you just how complicated this is. I mean, it's

0:28:42.400 --> 0:28:48.080
<v Speaker 1>just there's stepping into NBA basketball from not playing NBA

0:28:48.160 --> 0:28:50.400
<v Speaker 1>basketball for an extended stretch is really difficult. It's one

0:28:50.440 --> 0:28:51.800
<v Speaker 1>of It's been one of the big reasons why I've

0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:54.440
<v Speaker 1>been trying to get everybody to lighten up on th

0:28:54.600 --> 0:28:57.800
<v Speaker 1>HD a little bit. And everyone everyone jumped on me

0:28:57.800 --> 0:29:00.840
<v Speaker 1>about the th HD Drew Holiday in comparisons today, But guys,

0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:04.200
<v Speaker 1>guess what Drew Holiday um didn't make an All Defense

0:29:04.240 --> 0:29:08.840
<v Speaker 1>team until two thousand eighteen. Like like Drew Holiday was

0:29:08.840 --> 0:29:12.240
<v Speaker 1>was basically a guard who bounced around from team to

0:29:12.320 --> 0:29:15.200
<v Speaker 1>team because everyone decided he wasn't really good enough to

0:29:15.280 --> 0:29:18.560
<v Speaker 1>justify the money and uh and and he was a

0:29:18.560 --> 0:29:21.360
<v Speaker 1>good player. He made an All Star team once in

0:29:21.400 --> 0:29:23.640
<v Speaker 1>a week Eastern Conference in two thousand and twelve. But

0:29:24.000 --> 0:29:26.440
<v Speaker 1>what you saw with Drew is over the course of

0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:29.360
<v Speaker 1>the last few years of his career, he finally kind

0:29:29.360 --> 0:29:32.640
<v Speaker 1>of found his idealized role, which is, hey, if I'm

0:29:32.680 --> 0:29:35.400
<v Speaker 1>the third best player on the team and there's not

0:29:35.480 --> 0:29:38.440
<v Speaker 1>a ton asked for me offensively, I can devote all

0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:40.600
<v Speaker 1>my energy to the defensive end of the floor and

0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:43.800
<v Speaker 1>I can be a flat out impact player there. And

0:29:43.840 --> 0:29:46.080
<v Speaker 1>that's what he's been for the Bucks. And that's all

0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:48.120
<v Speaker 1>I was saying, is like, look, man like th ht

0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:52.160
<v Speaker 1>he he has the potential to be a guy who

0:29:52.240 --> 0:29:54.880
<v Speaker 1>averages between fifteen and twenty points per game and makes

0:29:55.360 --> 0:29:58.200
<v Speaker 1>all defense teams. To me at the guard position, that's

0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:01.320
<v Speaker 1>very similar to a Drew Holiday type. And I think

0:30:01.560 --> 0:30:03.160
<v Speaker 1>I think the hilarious part about it is if I

0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:06.320
<v Speaker 1>have said that exact same thing exactly one year ago

0:30:06.440 --> 0:30:08.960
<v Speaker 1>before Drew won a title, everyone would probably be like, oh, yeah,

0:30:08.960 --> 0:30:10.640
<v Speaker 1>it's a good cop. I like it, you know. But

0:30:10.720 --> 0:30:12.600
<v Speaker 1>that's just it just goes to show you the way

0:30:12.640 --> 0:30:17.200
<v Speaker 1>that perceptions change when when someone wins a trophy. But again,

0:30:17.240 --> 0:30:20.520
<v Speaker 1>like my thing with t HD is is like, just

0:30:20.600 --> 0:30:23.320
<v Speaker 1>like I was saying, with those quarantine situations, it's hard

0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:26.200
<v Speaker 1>to come off the street and play basketball. And he

0:30:26.240 --> 0:30:29.600
<v Speaker 1>went from an extensive injury that knocked him out for

0:30:30.160 --> 0:30:32.720
<v Speaker 1>um the start of the season to coming into the

0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:35.880
<v Speaker 1>lineup and every night it's a different game or like

0:30:36.040 --> 0:30:38.600
<v Speaker 1>one night he's starting, one night he's playing with Lebron,

0:30:39.040 --> 0:30:41.000
<v Speaker 1>the next night Lebron's out. This time is going to

0:30:41.000 --> 0:30:43.120
<v Speaker 1>the bench. Now Anthony Davis is out, Like his role

0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:45.760
<v Speaker 1>is just constantly changing. It's been influx and then he

0:30:45.760 --> 0:30:48.480
<v Speaker 1>goes into COVID. You know, this is just it's just

0:30:48.520 --> 0:30:51.760
<v Speaker 1>really difficult. Like you mentioned, uh Camp Baysmore, that guy

0:30:51.800 --> 0:30:55.000
<v Speaker 1>deserves a freaking do over for this whole season because

0:30:55.000 --> 0:30:56.920
<v Speaker 1>he had to play all his minutes with DeAndre Jordan

0:30:57.000 --> 0:31:00.640
<v Speaker 1>to start. Poor guy, Like, come on, like that's like

0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:04.120
<v Speaker 1>like he he could in theory be just fine in

0:31:04.120 --> 0:31:07.880
<v Speaker 1>a five out system, especially since he's such a good,

0:31:08.240 --> 0:31:11.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, single leg leaper with that rip through going

0:31:11.040 --> 0:31:14.320
<v Speaker 1>to his left, Like he could be devastating in that

0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:17.160
<v Speaker 1>close out attacking chain if he's the third or fourth

0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:20.840
<v Speaker 1>guy attacking a close out like Baysmore deserves another shot now,

0:31:21.240 --> 0:31:22.960
<v Speaker 1>and I think he's gonna get it when he gets

0:31:22.960 --> 0:31:25.080
<v Speaker 1>back from COVID and gets back in shape. But the

0:31:25.120 --> 0:31:28.320
<v Speaker 1>point is is like we're basically a different team now

0:31:28.800 --> 0:31:32.520
<v Speaker 1>then we were at the beginning, and and as we

0:31:33.040 --> 0:31:36.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, this is a new style, and yeah, guys

0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:38.960
<v Speaker 1>like Lebron have a lot of experience running this style

0:31:39.000 --> 0:31:41.600
<v Speaker 1>because he basically ran a five out type of system

0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:43.960
<v Speaker 1>in Cleveland where he'd be at the four with Kevin Love.

0:31:44.520 --> 0:31:48.120
<v Speaker 1>So it's not a foreign concept to him, but it

0:31:48.200 --> 0:31:49.960
<v Speaker 1>is a foreign concept to a lot of the guys

0:31:50.000 --> 0:31:52.120
<v Speaker 1>on this team, and it's gonna take time for them

0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:54.239
<v Speaker 1>to get used to it, especially on the defensive end

0:31:54.240 --> 0:31:56.280
<v Speaker 1>of the floor. And I mean, you even saw that

0:31:56.320 --> 0:31:57.720
<v Speaker 1>a couple of times on the offensive, and you saw

0:31:57.760 --> 0:32:00.840
<v Speaker 1>it Stanley, like Stanley cut back door late of the

0:32:00.880 --> 0:32:04.680
<v Speaker 1>middle fourth quarter. Lebron throws him a pocket pass and Stanley,

0:32:04.720 --> 0:32:07.320
<v Speaker 1>Stanley kind of gives up on the cut, and it's like,

0:32:07.520 --> 0:32:10.360
<v Speaker 1>that's something that he's gonna learn he can't do with Lebron.

0:32:10.480 --> 0:32:12.080
<v Speaker 1>Like when you're with Lebron, you start to cut, you

0:32:12.280 --> 0:32:14.520
<v Speaker 1>have to finish it because he's gonna pass it to you.

0:32:14.520 --> 0:32:17.360
<v Speaker 1>You know, you're gonna see all of these different And

0:32:17.400 --> 0:32:19.200
<v Speaker 1>we just talked about that with the Leak Monk earlier,

0:32:19.320 --> 0:32:21.760
<v Speaker 1>the Leak Monk getting better at understanding how to play

0:32:21.760 --> 0:32:23.640
<v Speaker 1>off ball with Lebron. But that's the point. It's like,

0:32:23.840 --> 0:32:27.360
<v Speaker 1>what's exciting now is over the course of this next month,

0:32:27.760 --> 0:32:30.560
<v Speaker 1>they're going to lean heavily into this style, and you're

0:32:30.560 --> 0:32:32.479
<v Speaker 1>gonna get to see them get better and better at

0:32:32.520 --> 0:32:35.240
<v Speaker 1>it every day because it's new to them, while also

0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:39.200
<v Speaker 1>getting reinforcements in the form of quality defensive forwards like

0:32:39.240 --> 0:32:42.560
<v Speaker 1>Arizona and Reeves, who both will succeed in this system.

0:32:42.640 --> 0:32:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Ariza was awesome in two thousand and eighteen with the

0:32:46.080 --> 0:32:48.880
<v Speaker 1>Rockets and their heavy switching system, and there are five

0:32:48.880 --> 0:32:51.480
<v Speaker 1>out system, so you're gonna see a lot of familiarity

0:32:51.480 --> 0:32:54.440
<v Speaker 1>with the reason there. And then here comes Anthony Davis,

0:32:54.600 --> 0:32:57.560
<v Speaker 1>who hopefully at this point will have shed a few

0:32:57.560 --> 0:33:01.320
<v Speaker 1>pounds and and be moving pretty ll and be able

0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:06.560
<v Speaker 1>to fulfill that role as that big, versatile forward that

0:33:06.560 --> 0:33:08.440
<v Speaker 1>that kind of covers up a lot of the mistakes

0:33:08.440 --> 0:33:10.520
<v Speaker 1>for the other guys. But I I think you're going

0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:14.400
<v Speaker 1>to see as long as COVID doesn't maintain its you know,

0:33:14.480 --> 0:33:17.080
<v Speaker 1>strangle hold on the roster, and as long as the

0:33:17.120 --> 0:33:18.680
<v Speaker 1>other guys don't get hurt, I think you're going to

0:33:18.720 --> 0:33:20.480
<v Speaker 1>see this team start trending in the right direction. I

0:33:20.480 --> 0:33:23.840
<v Speaker 1>truly believe that. Yeah, me too, And I hope Taylor

0:33:23.880 --> 0:33:26.160
<v Speaker 1>can also find a role in that right and I

0:33:26.160 --> 0:33:28.400
<v Speaker 1>think if he becomes through holiday. That's amazing. That's a

0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:30.800
<v Speaker 1>guy that I wouldn't I guess trade in some of

0:33:30.840 --> 0:33:33.480
<v Speaker 1>the trade offers I'm seeing I just don't agree with.

0:33:33.720 --> 0:33:35.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the Jeremy Grant stuff, I guess kind of

0:33:35.800 --> 0:33:38.000
<v Speaker 1>makes sense. I speak a little bit about the Russ

0:33:38.000 --> 0:33:40.160
<v Speaker 1>miss dunk though, because I think that's interesting. Like, you know,

0:33:40.280 --> 0:33:42.880
<v Speaker 1>there's been a lot of US miss dunks this season.

0:33:44.320 --> 0:33:46.760
<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, watching players like him face, I

0:33:46.760 --> 0:33:50.560
<v Speaker 1>guess their mortality is is a like really fascinating thing

0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:53.040
<v Speaker 1>to watch, and you know, it's something been that's been

0:33:53.080 --> 0:33:55.720
<v Speaker 1>happening with him. I think throughout his career. Just watching

0:33:55.800 --> 0:33:58.240
<v Speaker 1>night Tonight is interesting because their miss dunks are what

0:33:58.480 --> 0:34:00.320
<v Speaker 1>get on the you know, get on the House of

0:34:00.400 --> 0:34:02.880
<v Speaker 1>Highlights or House of low Lights, whatever you wanna call it.

0:34:02.960 --> 0:34:04.480
<v Speaker 1>But like that's where like you see all like the

0:34:04.520 --> 0:34:06.320
<v Speaker 1>miss dunks and stuff like that. But that kind of

0:34:06.360 --> 0:34:08.080
<v Speaker 1>stuff is just to me, the missdunk is like the

0:34:08.120 --> 0:34:10.680
<v Speaker 1>backdrop for the other parts of the game. I think

0:34:10.800 --> 0:34:13.840
<v Speaker 1>his athleticism or lack of it now, or the dropping

0:34:13.880 --> 0:34:16.279
<v Speaker 1>athleticism that he has it kind of impacts not getting

0:34:16.320 --> 0:34:18.520
<v Speaker 1>lift at the rim anymore. Right. Also, like I think

0:34:18.520 --> 0:34:20.600
<v Speaker 1>a lot of turnovers as well, doesn't get as much

0:34:20.680 --> 0:34:22.880
<v Speaker 1>lift trying to go up and see over the defense.

0:34:22.880 --> 0:34:24.839
<v Speaker 1>Stuff like that that I see. And I think the

0:34:24.880 --> 0:34:27.839
<v Speaker 1>miss dunks are kind of just become the representation of that.

0:34:27.840 --> 0:34:29.200
<v Speaker 1>But you see that as well, because I think the

0:34:29.200 --> 0:34:31.160
<v Speaker 1>miss dunks are what kind of get highlighted. But I

0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:33.759
<v Speaker 1>think that just that is what kind of impacts the

0:34:33.800 --> 0:34:35.799
<v Speaker 1>rest of his game. You see, like the miss dunks

0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:39.040
<v Speaker 1>are just people highlight out. But I think it's fascinating

0:34:39.040 --> 0:34:41.239
<v Speaker 1>to see, like him trying to fix his finishing at

0:34:41.239 --> 0:34:43.000
<v Speaker 1>the rim, and he saw tonight like he got the

0:34:43.040 --> 0:34:44.560
<v Speaker 1>left hand lay up. I think he wanted to go

0:34:44.680 --> 0:34:46.880
<v Speaker 1>for another like big dunk. We decided let me just

0:34:46.920 --> 0:34:48.080
<v Speaker 1>go to the left hand lay up. But I think

0:34:48.080 --> 0:34:49.880
<v Speaker 1>it's just interesting to watch him because like it's the

0:34:49.920 --> 0:34:52.160
<v Speaker 1>guy that you've seen being able to jump over moons,

0:34:52.200 --> 0:34:54.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, throughout his old career, and you see it

0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:56.040
<v Speaker 1>now like you see it every night, And this is

0:34:56.040 --> 0:34:59.520
<v Speaker 1>stuff was probably happening in Houston and Washington, but weren't

0:34:59.520 --> 0:35:01.480
<v Speaker 1>just seeing it every night. And I still think he's

0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:03.640
<v Speaker 1>playing well. He's played a lot better. Um, I think

0:35:03.640 --> 0:35:05.719
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna continue to play better as we go into

0:35:05.760 --> 0:35:07.840
<v Speaker 1>these lineups. But I think it's just fascining that, you know,

0:35:07.880 --> 0:35:10.320
<v Speaker 1>the miss dunks are what's going to get plastered everywhere.

0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:13.080
<v Speaker 1>But that's kind of the backdrop to me because it

0:35:13.200 --> 0:35:14.759
<v Speaker 1>kind of impacts the rest of his game. Do you

0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:16.799
<v Speaker 1>see that as well? With you see what I'm trying

0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:19.120
<v Speaker 1>to go with there? Yeah, the missdunk thing is an

0:35:19.120 --> 0:35:21.839
<v Speaker 1>interesting phenomenon. It doesn't It's not overly complicated you think

0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:23.920
<v Speaker 1>about it. Because if you if I gave you a

0:35:24.000 --> 0:35:27.319
<v Speaker 1>ladder and you stared, uh, you know, and you were

0:35:27.400 --> 0:35:30.440
<v Speaker 1>your eyeballs were two inches above the ring and you

0:35:30.480 --> 0:35:32.920
<v Speaker 1>were looking, you wouldn't see a circle. You'd see a

0:35:33.040 --> 0:35:36.120
<v Speaker 1>very very thin oval. But if you were a foot

0:35:36.160 --> 0:35:38.759
<v Speaker 1>above the rim and you were looking down, you'd see

0:35:38.800 --> 0:35:40.480
<v Speaker 1>the better part of the circle. And it's the same

0:35:40.520 --> 0:35:44.440
<v Speaker 1>concept with dunking. When you're up there, it's easy because

0:35:44.480 --> 0:35:46.880
<v Speaker 1>it's hard to miss when you're throwing it down into

0:35:46.920 --> 0:35:49.960
<v Speaker 1>the ring. But when you're in that weird gray area

0:35:50.560 --> 0:35:53.439
<v Speaker 1>where your hands and fingertips are barely above the rim,

0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:56.359
<v Speaker 1>like a lot has to go right for that dunk

0:35:56.400 --> 0:35:59.040
<v Speaker 1>to finish. You've got to be able to fit it

0:35:59.040 --> 0:36:02.160
<v Speaker 1>into a much tight your window there, and what you're

0:36:02.160 --> 0:36:06.160
<v Speaker 1>seeing is like Russ is operating as an athlete in

0:36:06.280 --> 0:36:10.839
<v Speaker 1>that very very small area right above the rim where

0:36:10.880 --> 0:36:15.160
<v Speaker 1>the margin for era error is extremely small. And the

0:36:15.440 --> 0:36:18.000
<v Speaker 1>problem is is like he because even the one he

0:36:18.040 --> 0:36:20.640
<v Speaker 1>missed tonight, the one he missed against the nets, he

0:36:20.760 --> 0:36:23.279
<v Speaker 1>wasn't even above the rim. That was just that was

0:36:23.320 --> 0:36:26.440
<v Speaker 1>just embarrassing. But the one tonight he actually was a

0:36:26.480 --> 0:36:28.959
<v Speaker 1>little bit above the rim, He just like I said,

0:36:29.040 --> 0:36:31.000
<v Speaker 1>was operating in that area where it had to be

0:36:31.080 --> 0:36:33.760
<v Speaker 1>perfect because it was kind of just barely his wrist

0:36:33.800 --> 0:36:36.120
<v Speaker 1>above the rim and if you don't throw it just right,

0:36:36.239 --> 0:36:39.400
<v Speaker 1>it'll come off the background. But to your point, he

0:36:39.440 --> 0:36:42.400
<v Speaker 1>just has to accept reality. That's all it is is,

0:36:43.000 --> 0:36:47.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, embracing a change in your body and understanding

0:36:47.080 --> 0:36:49.680
<v Speaker 1>you have to play differently like Russ. You know, this

0:36:49.760 --> 0:36:52.879
<v Speaker 1>is something I thought trying to remember who brought this up.

0:36:52.880 --> 0:36:55.319
<v Speaker 1>It might have been my Trudell on the La fire Pod.

0:36:55.400 --> 0:36:59.080
<v Speaker 1>But finishing at the rim is so much about slowing

0:36:59.080 --> 0:37:03.239
<v Speaker 1>yourself down. It's so much about because you need these

0:37:03.360 --> 0:37:06.480
<v Speaker 1>changes of pace to beat people off the dribble, like

0:37:06.520 --> 0:37:09.239
<v Speaker 1>you need to hit the gas to beat people off

0:37:09.280 --> 0:37:12.239
<v Speaker 1>the dribble. But when you actually get to the basket,

0:37:13.040 --> 0:37:15.319
<v Speaker 1>there's such a finesse element to it. And I think

0:37:15.400 --> 0:37:17.920
<v Speaker 1>that's been one of the big problems with Russ throughout

0:37:17.920 --> 0:37:20.760
<v Speaker 1>his career, even even when he was a better athlete.

0:37:20.800 --> 0:37:23.400
<v Speaker 1>Is he just it's always full speed at the rim,

0:37:23.520 --> 0:37:25.680
<v Speaker 1>so if there's somebody who steps over to stop him,

0:37:25.719 --> 0:37:27.719
<v Speaker 1>unless he's dunking over the top of him. He just

0:37:27.760 --> 0:37:31.200
<v Speaker 1>struggles with the touch on those types of finishes. But

0:37:31.760 --> 0:37:34.080
<v Speaker 1>what you can hope for is that hopefully as he

0:37:34.160 --> 0:37:37.800
<v Speaker 1>embraces and understands that dunking is not in the picture

0:37:37.840 --> 0:37:40.919
<v Speaker 1>for him anymore, or at least not very frequently, then

0:37:41.000 --> 0:37:44.080
<v Speaker 1>maybe he can train himself to slow himself, to slow

0:37:44.120 --> 0:37:46.359
<v Speaker 1>down on those finishes. It's just this could be all

0:37:46.360 --> 0:37:49.759
<v Speaker 1>pie in this guy thinking though, because he's not exactly

0:37:49.800 --> 0:37:53.719
<v Speaker 1>a guy who you know is willing to accept criticism

0:37:53.800 --> 0:37:55.880
<v Speaker 1>or or kind of ster reality in the face. Actually,

0:37:55.880 --> 0:37:57.080
<v Speaker 1>I meant to ask you this, so this will be

0:37:57.080 --> 0:37:58.800
<v Speaker 1>the last thing it's tonight, and we'll call it since

0:37:59.200 --> 0:38:02.080
<v Speaker 1>we have another show to morrow. But what did you

0:38:02.160 --> 0:38:05.719
<v Speaker 1>think of the Russ interview yesterday? Because I thought I

0:38:05.800 --> 0:38:08.160
<v Speaker 1>thought it was a pretty shocking lack of self awareness

0:38:08.200 --> 0:38:09.759
<v Speaker 1>but I wanted to hear I wanted to hear your

0:38:09.800 --> 0:38:13.279
<v Speaker 1>two cents on it. Yeah, it was interesting the way

0:38:13.320 --> 0:38:14.840
<v Speaker 1>it was kind of framed, right. I think it was

0:38:14.960 --> 0:38:19.080
<v Speaker 1>Dave mcmenimum who asked him about it, about the criticisms,

0:38:19.080 --> 0:38:20.880
<v Speaker 1>and you know, it was kind of weird because he

0:38:20.920 --> 0:38:24.000
<v Speaker 1>mentioned I think Frank Vogel and he mentioned Fizdale I believe,

0:38:24.000 --> 0:38:25.879
<v Speaker 1>and then he went into a lot of people are

0:38:25.880 --> 0:38:27.480
<v Speaker 1>telling me what to do, and I kind of know

0:38:27.800 --> 0:38:30.760
<v Speaker 1>who I am. I was thinking he was more speaking

0:38:30.760 --> 0:38:33.400
<v Speaker 1>on like just media and fans in general, Like that's

0:38:33.440 --> 0:38:36.880
<v Speaker 1>because that's usually who he speaks on. But like, you know,

0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:39.080
<v Speaker 1>we spoke about this when Russ came here and was

0:38:39.120 --> 0:38:41.719
<v Speaker 1>traded here, like there was there was no qualms about

0:38:41.760 --> 0:38:43.640
<v Speaker 1>what was going to happen, like Russ is gonna be Russ,

0:38:43.680 --> 0:38:46.040
<v Speaker 1>Like there was no changing him, and there was an

0:38:46.040 --> 0:38:49.080
<v Speaker 1>adjustment period for sure. And I think we I think

0:38:49.080 --> 0:38:52.040
<v Speaker 1>it's been kind of unfair because we haven't really seen

0:38:52.160 --> 0:38:55.439
<v Speaker 1>the version of Russ that we kind of predicted, which

0:38:55.480 --> 0:38:59.040
<v Speaker 1>is the third you know, the third option, third star

0:38:59.640 --> 0:39:02.279
<v Speaker 1>over want to put it where two other guys are

0:39:02.320 --> 0:39:04.920
<v Speaker 1>taking up a bunch of possessions. But again when you

0:39:05.000 --> 0:39:07.319
<v Speaker 1>have a RUSS into the first or second option, like,

0:39:07.360 --> 0:39:09.359
<v Speaker 1>this is what it's gonna look like. There's gonna be

0:39:09.360 --> 0:39:12.000
<v Speaker 1>bad games for for twenty games. We particuled that before

0:39:12.000 --> 0:39:14.840
<v Speaker 1>the season, and that's what the other night was against

0:39:14.840 --> 0:39:18.240
<v Speaker 1>I forgot who they played already, but against Brooklyn on Christmas.

0:39:18.239 --> 0:39:19.960
<v Speaker 1>So those are kind of games we're gonna happen. But

0:39:20.000 --> 0:39:21.279
<v Speaker 1>I thought that's what it was. I thought it was

0:39:21.400 --> 0:39:23.960
<v Speaker 1>him going after you know, the media and the fans

0:39:24.000 --> 0:39:26.920
<v Speaker 1>and you know in general, that's usually who he's talking

0:39:26.960 --> 0:39:29.160
<v Speaker 1>to in those kind of moments. He's always been kind of,

0:39:29.520 --> 0:39:33.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, I guess against media, and like the last

0:39:33.320 --> 0:39:35.399
<v Speaker 1>few seasons, like in ways that he talked to them

0:39:35.400 --> 0:39:37.000
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. That's kind of how I saw

0:39:37.040 --> 0:39:40.000
<v Speaker 1>How did you see it? So, you know, to me

0:39:40.640 --> 0:39:44.760
<v Speaker 1>it was darring in the sense that I thought he,

0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:48.520
<v Speaker 1>like you, you would just like to see some sort

0:39:48.560 --> 0:39:52.759
<v Speaker 1>of reflection, right. So for instance, like as frustrated as

0:39:52.800 --> 0:39:55.799
<v Speaker 1>we were with Frank Vogel to start the season, he

0:39:55.840 --> 0:39:58.200
<v Speaker 1>at least was saying some of the right things, like

0:39:58.320 --> 0:40:02.040
<v Speaker 1>he would mention space sing in an interview or before

0:40:02.400 --> 0:40:04.279
<v Speaker 1>before he got hired, right after you get hired in

0:40:04.280 --> 0:40:06.520
<v Speaker 1>this first press conference, He's like, we're going to take

0:40:06.520 --> 0:40:10.520
<v Speaker 1>an outside in analytical approach, which Laker fans were dying

0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:14.040
<v Speaker 1>to hear because we just went through that Magic Johnson fiasco.

0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:16.360
<v Speaker 1>But you you just like to hear like at least

0:40:16.920 --> 0:40:20.839
<v Speaker 1>that he's aware of the important matters at hand. And

0:40:21.160 --> 0:40:26.080
<v Speaker 1>to me, like him bringing up fifteen thing was just

0:40:26.200 --> 0:40:30.080
<v Speaker 1>such a classic Russ like your head's kind of in

0:40:30.080 --> 0:40:33.560
<v Speaker 1>the wrong place, buddy kind of thing, because like, would

0:40:33.600 --> 0:40:35.759
<v Speaker 1>you ever hear would you ever hear Lebron like come

0:40:35.800 --> 0:40:37.239
<v Speaker 1>after a game and be like, you know, like I'm

0:40:37.280 --> 0:40:40.600
<v Speaker 1>averaging thirty eleven and seven during the stretch, so I'm

0:40:40.640 --> 0:40:42.960
<v Speaker 1>doing everything I can. Like No, it's just like like

0:40:43.080 --> 0:40:46.239
<v Speaker 1>Lebron will be hyper focused on like a like I

0:40:46.280 --> 0:40:49.279
<v Speaker 1>had these two turnovers in the fourth quarter that were

0:40:49.400 --> 0:40:52.040
<v Speaker 1>very avoidable, or oh, like I missed some shots I

0:40:52.080 --> 0:40:54.719
<v Speaker 1>normally make today, or you know, I missed some reads,

0:40:54.840 --> 0:40:57.560
<v Speaker 1>I made some defensive mistakes. Like that's the kind of

0:40:57.560 --> 0:41:00.200
<v Speaker 1>thing that you would prefer to see. Russ folk us

0:41:00.280 --> 0:41:03.960
<v Speaker 1>On is like, actually, on this specific team, they don't

0:41:03.960 --> 0:41:06.920
<v Speaker 1>need you to score fifteen and fifteen. If you were

0:41:06.960 --> 0:41:10.399
<v Speaker 1>to average ten ten and ten or held ten five

0:41:10.480 --> 0:41:14.120
<v Speaker 1>and five, But embrace everything that this team needs out

0:41:14.120 --> 0:41:17.040
<v Speaker 1>of you defensively, it would go a long way towards

0:41:17.120 --> 0:41:19.479
<v Speaker 1>raising this team ceiling. Like we've talked a lot about

0:41:19.480 --> 0:41:21.440
<v Speaker 1>how Russ has shopped the ball better than we hoped.

0:41:21.960 --> 0:41:25.560
<v Speaker 1>That's true, but he also hasn't been good enough yet

0:41:26.280 --> 0:41:29.320
<v Speaker 1>and some of the finer details, like tonight was another

0:41:29.440 --> 0:41:31.560
<v Speaker 1>one of the many games this season where he hasn't

0:41:31.600 --> 0:41:33.520
<v Speaker 1>taken care of the basketball. He's also had stretches where

0:41:33.520 --> 0:41:36.000
<v Speaker 1>he's taken care of it well. But the point is

0:41:36.080 --> 0:41:38.760
<v Speaker 1>is Russ, like when we get to the late moments

0:41:38.800 --> 0:41:41.440
<v Speaker 1>and the postseason against a really good team, like, we

0:41:41.480 --> 0:41:44.359
<v Speaker 1>can't afford any of those games from you, So that

0:41:44.360 --> 0:41:47.480
<v Speaker 1>needs to be a detailed focus for you moving forward.

0:41:47.640 --> 0:41:51.640
<v Speaker 1>Like critical possession late in the game today, Jalen Green,

0:41:51.719 --> 0:41:55.319
<v Speaker 1>it's another step back three Um there he's on a

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<v Speaker 1>little personal six oh run, Everything's going Houston's way. He

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<v Speaker 1>just dribbled it up the sideline, Molik Monk slipped the

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<v Speaker 1>pick and roll wasn't open and rush just through it

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<v Speaker 1>right to the other team. And it's like that's the

0:42:06.480 --> 0:42:09.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff that like, that's that is what's going

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<v Speaker 1>to actually hurt this team, not how well did you

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<v Speaker 1>shoot from the field, not did you get twenty five

0:42:15.760 --> 0:42:19.080
<v Speaker 1>points instead of twenty points, like your defensive focus off

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<v Speaker 1>the ball, like what happened on the Patty Mills play,

0:42:21.719 --> 0:42:25.759
<v Speaker 1>and you're making solid basketball decisions, especially at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of games. Those are the things that are gonna make

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<v Speaker 1>or break this team. And so I I wouldn't take

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<v Speaker 1>too much from the interview. I I don't think Russ

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<v Speaker 1>is going anywhere. I don't think there's any sort of

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<v Speaker 1>larger theme. They're all I'm saying is just as a

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<v Speaker 1>fan of his and as a fan of this team,

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to have seen a little more self

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<v Speaker 1>awareness from him there, just a little bit more of

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<v Speaker 1>like a my team needs me to not to make

0:42:49.840 --> 0:42:52.480
<v Speaker 1>fewer mistakes defensively and to take better care of the

0:42:52.480 --> 0:42:54.520
<v Speaker 1>basketball if that's going to be my focus moving forward.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care what the box score says. That's what

0:42:56.760 --> 0:42:59.080
<v Speaker 1>you'd like to hear. But that said, like you can't,

0:42:59.080 --> 0:43:01.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, a guy's person all these guys personality. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to police that by any stretch. Just as

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<v Speaker 1>a fan, for me watching that, I was disappointed because

0:43:07.960 --> 0:43:10.000
<v Speaker 1>it just showed to me that he didn't seem to

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<v Speaker 1>get it, And the only way we'll find out if

0:43:12.320 --> 0:43:14.600
<v Speaker 1>he ever actually gets it is when the moment comes,

0:43:14.640 --> 0:43:17.160
<v Speaker 1>when we end up in a pivotal late playoff series

0:43:17.239 --> 0:43:19.600
<v Speaker 1>moment and it's a really good team. He's either gonna

0:43:19.680 --> 0:43:22.440
<v Speaker 1>pay attention to those things or he won't. And if

0:43:22.520 --> 0:43:25.000
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't, I'm going to be thinking about moments like

0:43:25.040 --> 0:43:28.960
<v Speaker 1>that when he was more concerned about, you know, what

0:43:29.280 --> 0:43:31.719
<v Speaker 1>Lakers fans might want out of a box out of

0:43:31.719 --> 0:43:36.719
<v Speaker 1>a box score, rather than the obvious, clear, tangible basketball

0:43:36.760 --> 0:43:39.759
<v Speaker 1>things that we need from him, if that makes sense. Yeah,

0:43:39.800 --> 0:43:42.440
<v Speaker 1>And you know, as long as they're having those conversations inside,

0:43:42.440 --> 0:43:44.719
<v Speaker 1>which I'm sure they are, I'm sure they watch you know,

0:43:44.719 --> 0:43:46.520
<v Speaker 1>it should time a film and you know, go over

0:43:46.560 --> 0:43:48.879
<v Speaker 1>what he needs to do in those situations. To me though,

0:43:48.920 --> 0:43:50.520
<v Speaker 1>like it's the last thing. I guess I'll stay on

0:43:50.520 --> 0:43:54.440
<v Speaker 1>it this season. Like I don't want to temper rush, right,

0:43:54.480 --> 0:43:56.120
<v Speaker 1>Like I think that's the wrong way to kind of

0:43:56.120 --> 0:43:58.920
<v Speaker 1>go about this, Like do you try to calm I

0:43:58.960 --> 0:44:02.880
<v Speaker 1>guess his play down. I'd rather just limit those possessions,

0:44:02.880 --> 0:44:05.480
<v Speaker 1>like let let him kind of attack and spots, And

0:44:05.480 --> 0:44:07.600
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of where we've seen where this team is best,

0:44:07.880 --> 0:44:10.560
<v Speaker 1>right where we can kind of channel that energy into

0:44:10.640 --> 0:44:12.719
<v Speaker 1>spots in the game and then you know, laid down

0:44:12.719 --> 0:44:14.560
<v Speaker 1>the stretch. It can be Lebron, you know, you know

0:44:14.640 --> 0:44:17.600
<v Speaker 1>Lebron staple offense basketball or is just you know what

0:44:17.680 --> 0:44:19.600
<v Speaker 1>he likes to do, which is guard screens or post

0:44:19.640 --> 0:44:21.360
<v Speaker 1>ups or whatever that is in late game. But I

0:44:21.360 --> 0:44:23.320
<v Speaker 1>think during the game, like I think, try to temper

0:44:23.440 --> 0:44:25.560
<v Speaker 1>him down, you know, because you're never gonna get low

0:44:25.840 --> 0:44:28.919
<v Speaker 1>turnover Russ with high usage, Like that's just never gonna

0:44:28.960 --> 0:44:31.600
<v Speaker 1>be him. He's going to attack the paint relentlessly, and

0:44:31.640 --> 0:44:33.560
<v Speaker 1>a lot of that comes with you know, out of

0:44:33.600 --> 0:44:36.879
<v Speaker 1>control drives, out of control passes, which you know, some

0:44:36.880 --> 0:44:38.600
<v Speaker 1>some of them lead to really great shots, like some

0:44:38.640 --> 0:44:40.120
<v Speaker 1>of them do lead to open looks, some of them

0:44:40.120 --> 0:44:42.319
<v Speaker 1>do lead to layups. But I think that's where you

0:44:42.360 --> 0:44:44.879
<v Speaker 1>have to go with us kind of don't temper him down,

0:44:44.920 --> 0:44:46.880
<v Speaker 1>just you know, you limit the possessions, I guess, and

0:44:46.880 --> 0:44:48.600
<v Speaker 1>I think that will work out when everyone's healthy, but

0:44:48.640 --> 0:44:50.239
<v Speaker 1>we just haven't seen it. So right now we're gonna

0:44:50.239 --> 0:44:53.399
<v Speaker 1>get a bunch of eight turnover game, seven turnover games, um,

0:44:53.760 --> 0:44:55.520
<v Speaker 1>but you just hope that the shooting is well enough

0:44:55.560 --> 0:44:57.400
<v Speaker 1>to that and they can kind of survive and the

0:44:57.440 --> 0:44:59.360
<v Speaker 1>defense is able to keep up with that. And I

0:44:59.360 --> 0:45:01.359
<v Speaker 1>think the small line up as part of it. But yeah,

0:45:01.360 --> 0:45:04.160
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't take too much from the interview as long

0:45:04.200 --> 0:45:06.440
<v Speaker 1>as you know people as they're saying the right things,

0:45:06.520 --> 0:45:09.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, inside the locker room and stuff. But it was,

0:45:09.520 --> 0:45:11.200
<v Speaker 1>it was it was fascinating to see him kind of

0:45:11.320 --> 0:45:15.319
<v Speaker 1>bringing up fifteen and stuff like that. I'm not I

0:45:15.440 --> 0:45:17.279
<v Speaker 1>want to be clear, I'm not trying to be over

0:45:17.320 --> 0:45:20.120
<v Speaker 1>the critical there, like I I And again it's it's

0:45:20.200 --> 0:45:22.239
<v Speaker 1>kind of it makes me feel little uncomfortable because you

0:45:22.239 --> 0:45:25.200
<v Speaker 1>feel like you're policing personality. Is like, I also didn't

0:45:25.200 --> 0:45:27.960
<v Speaker 1>like that. Lebron over the course of his last few

0:45:28.000 --> 0:45:31.520
<v Speaker 1>press conferences has been kind of like heavily hammering home

0:45:31.560 --> 0:45:34.120
<v Speaker 1>the point that we're missing a lot of bodies. It's like, yeah, no,

0:45:34.320 --> 0:45:37.480
<v Speaker 1>but like you know, at a certain point we have

0:45:37.600 --> 0:45:41.280
<v Speaker 1>to just kind of, you know, take it. He's not wrong,

0:45:41.440 --> 0:45:44.000
<v Speaker 1>but he's not want to hear it. Yeah, for exactly.

0:45:44.040 --> 0:45:47.440
<v Speaker 1>It's like we all want to hear it exactly. But um, anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>that's all we have for tonight, guys, This is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>air on DASH Radio tomorrow morning at seven am Pacific

0:45:52.520 --> 0:45:54.560
<v Speaker 1>Standard time, and we'll be on our podcast feed here

0:45:54.560 --> 0:45:57.120
<v Speaker 1>in about twenty minutes. Roger and I will be back

0:45:57.560 --> 0:46:00.720
<v Speaker 1>for a postgame show tomorrow, and then another one on Friday,

0:46:00.760 --> 0:46:02.880
<v Speaker 1>and then another one on Sunday. Lots of Laker basketball

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<v Speaker 1>coming up, but we appreciate you guys support H