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So you're gonna get a lot 19 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: of those. 20 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 2: You're gonna get a lot of ahs, a lot of 21 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: a lot of groaning and moaning, because boy, oh boy, 22 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 2: do our New York Mets stank right now? My goodness, 23 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: has this team season done a complete one point eighty 24 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 2: and is looking so terrible? 25 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 1: Right now. 26 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 2: We were kind of negative last episode. It's gonna get 27 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 2: a little more negative this episode. 28 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: After a embarrassing series against the Miami Marlins, bad baseball 29 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: all around. Not many things redeeming coming from this series. 30 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about it. It's not gonna be fun. 31 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: You'll probably get some good takes, You'll probably get some 32 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: good laughs. There's gonna be a lot of If you'd 33 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: like to see me and James, like I said, moaning grown, 34 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: this is gonna be the episode for you. But if 35 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: you're one of these positive Mets fans, it's pretty tough 36 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: to be positive after this series. Of course, we also 37 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: went to Brooklyn to go see the Cyclones, got to 38 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: interview three prospects that we teased in the last episode. 39 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 2: Told you guys, we're gonna get three big names, and 40 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: we did. We got franc sco Alvarez, we got Ronnie Mauricio, 41 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 2: and we got Jalen Palmer, all for interviews. They're gonna 42 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: be featured during the farm report that we normally do 43 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 2: during the midweek episodes over the next few weeks here, 44 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 2: so like once a week we'll drop these interviews instead 45 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 2: of a midweek farm report and we'll you know, get 46 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 2: to see what our interviews sound like with Francisco Alvarez 47 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 2: and Ronnie Mauricio. Of course, if you guys want to 48 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 2: watch a video version of everything that we do over here, 49 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 2: make sure you subscribe to the YouTube channel met Stuff podcast. 50 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: Our last video popped off. I think it might be 51 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: our best one yet, so appreciate you guys on the 52 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: showing the support over there. Make sure you follow us 53 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: on Twitter and Instagram at metstup. Make sure you also 54 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: follow James on Twitter at Jeter had No Range me 55 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: at draftneck Mark. Perfect time to bring in James here. James, 56 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: how we feeling out for this series? 57 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 2: After the series? I feel really just downright awful. It's good. 58 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 2: It's so weird coming off the high we had today 59 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 2: being with the cyclones all day and landing those big interviews, 60 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 2: to now come back remember the four games that have 61 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: happened for the Mets and be able to get into 62 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 2: our our zone per se for this show. Well, we 63 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 2: talked about it on like the walk to the car 64 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 2: and everything. We're like, damn, we got to talk about 65 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 2: this miserable, miserable team right now after what is probably 66 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 2: one of the best days that we've had in a 67 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 2: very long time, especially because the game today was at 68 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 2: noon Thursday. The Thursday's Mets game was at noon. So 69 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 2: by the time we got to Brooklyn and got their 70 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 2: stuff straightened away and figured out what we were doing, 71 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 2: it was really over. The series was already outside of 72 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 2: my mind, like the Marlins were completely behind me, behind us, 73 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: and now we have to rechannel it. And I'm not 74 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 2: that excited to do that. No, I'm not excited to 75 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: go through these games, but a last we will, and 76 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 2: we'll get a start off with Game one, and God, 77 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 2: from the rip it was so friggin bad. 78 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: I mean, we gave up. 79 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: A grand Slam to Lewis Brinton, who is a sorry 80 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: excuse for a Major League baseball player. We uh, I 81 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 2: think we taught Lewis Brinton had hit this week because 82 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 2: he was hitting laser beams all over Loan Cap lowercase 83 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 2: l Depot Park. It also just sucks that he was 84 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 2: a fourth hitter of the game and he hit a 85 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 2: grand Slam. How often does that happen? Howie and Wayne 86 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 2: were making fun of the Marlins lineup, like, oh, after 87 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 2: the trade deadline, this lineup really falls off a cliff, 88 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 2: just three real hitters there and then it's all over 89 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 2: and then bang Lewis Brinson does it to him. 90 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: Dude, Gary hates Lewis Brinson for some reason. I mean 91 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: see every single time he sees Lewis Brinson play, I 92 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: mean shits down his throat almost like it's Skyline Chili. 93 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: It's crazy the animosity has for a guy who's really irrelevant. 94 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: But boy did he make us pay this series. The 95 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: Mets pitching wise were not particularly sharp. They weren't bad, 96 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: but they weren't sharp. I would say there were definitely 97 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,239 Speaker 1: a lot of mistakes made, and for some reason, Lewis 98 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: Brinton isan Diaz, who just haven't been able to hit 99 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: the side of a barn, were able to hit baseballs 100 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: this week. 101 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 2: It's hard to call Lewis Brinson irrelevant because he was 102 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 2: like a major prospect, central part of the Christian Yellwis trade. 103 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 2: And I think that Gary, I think Keith and Ron 104 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 2: will probably share the same sentiment. They don't like him 105 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 2: because every single time he plays against the Mets, every 106 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 2: single time he's ever played against anybody as professional, he 107 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 2: just swings at every single pitch. He doesn't take a pitch, 108 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 2: he doesn't really care about recognizing a pitch, understanding situation, 109 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 2: working account. He's just there the hack, and this time 110 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 2: he did hack. And the shame of it all was 111 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 2: that it wasn't even a bad pitch that he hit 112 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 2: out like it was ninety five on the black. McGill 113 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 2: made his pitch and Lewis Brinston just hit a crazy 114 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 2: shot off it. 115 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, just shouldn't be in that situation anyway. 116 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: Against these Marlins hitters, They're just not very good. We 117 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: talked about it going into the series, like this is 118 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: a team we should beat, but I unfortunately called it 119 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: to a friggin tea and I said, this is a 120 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: huge trap game or trap series, and I'm not feeling 121 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 1: good about it. And Game one four runs in the 122 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: first It's just not the start you want to say. 123 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 2: No, the series basically felt over when that ball went 124 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 2: over the fence and the Mets did like scratching claw 125 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 2: like right afterwards to get back in the game. Hovey 126 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 2: had the walk and he scored them the wild pitch. 127 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 2: Then he was limping around. Drewy had an RBI doubled, 128 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 2: and Pete had a home run and that was all 129 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 2: in the next three innings and then that was just 130 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 2: complete curtains for the offense. After that, the vaunted Marlin's bullpen, 131 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 2: who could forget them, can't get any kids off that team. 132 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 2: Big names like Anthony Bass, David Hess, the names that 133 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 2: you throw out there, like they do have a couple 134 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 2: of good arms. 135 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: I know you like Bender a lot. 136 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 2: I love Bender. Floro's a piece. He saved two games 137 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 2: against the Mets this week. I guess that's kind of 138 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 2: the Thompson. Yeah, David Campbell, like they have created player, Davis. 139 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,679 Speaker 1: We like to talk about Chase Anderson as created player. 140 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: The Marlins are I'm confident creating players. But they were 141 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: getting outs. 142 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 2: That's the all American bullpen we just named. There's a 143 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 2: lot of good old fashion like Midwestern names, dudes from Kansas, Iowa, 144 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 2: real American names. This just was it was doomed from 145 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 2: the get go. 146 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: That Grand Slam really just put us in a hole 147 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: that we couldn't ever really come back from. It's a 148 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: shame because McGill's really pitched well all year and this 149 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: is the first time that he's really had sort of trouble. 150 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: But even then it was only the first inning. 151 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 2: No, he I thought settled in really nicely after that 152 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 2: Grand Slam and responded well to the adversity of giving 153 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 2: up a lot of runs at one time for the 154 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 2: first time in his career. I know that probably sounds 155 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 2: kind of dumb to the listeners to say that McGill 156 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: pitched pretty well after he gave up four runs, but 157 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 2: he did like a rookie pitcher in that situation, with 158 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 2: the team reeling, you've given up a nuke in the 159 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 2: first inning, like you could really unravel. But Tyler McGill 160 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 2: settled in and gave us much needed length. He got 161 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 2: through five innings in a way that really was able 162 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 2: to help this team without off day. And I'll say 163 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 2: it again, but that pitch to Brinton wasn't even fucking bad. 164 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 2: It reminded me so much that Marcello Zuna home run 165 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 2: off of Edwin last year in the ninth inning. 166 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: Why I gotta do that to me? Why you gotta 167 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: make me remember that when I'm already down it's late. 168 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 2: It was the same thing, though it was just a 169 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 2: fastball on the black that he just went with it, 170 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 2: took it where it had to go, and only three 171 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 2: of those runs were earned because of the James mccannon interference, 172 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 2: which was the most lackadaisical catcher's interference I've ever seen. 173 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 2: I've never seen a catcher interference not be met by 174 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 2: some type of argument, either from the pitcher, the catcher, 175 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 2: or the bench. Everyone's like, oh, yeah, that was an 176 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 2: interference because like I interfered, I interfered, Go take your base. 177 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, My bad won't happen again. But then he 178 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,239 Speaker 2: kind of changed his pitch mix a little bit after 179 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 2: the first inning. He went very, very change up heavy, 180 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 2: actually threw more change ups than fastballs from the first 181 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 2: inning on, which is a big change from the guy 182 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 2: we've seen because I've said over and over again in 183 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 2: this podcast breaking down his starts that he has been 184 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 2: like living in that sixty percent fastball zone. And he 185 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 2: also kind of gave up on his slither after the 186 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 2: first inning. He threw six of the twelve he threw 187 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 2: the entire game in that inning alone. So Tyler McGill 188 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 2: now has completely fallen in love with his change up. 189 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 2: As am I, the pitch is gross again. I'll say 190 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 2: it as I've said every single time. It's shocking that 191 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 2: no one said this change up with such a weapon 192 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 2: before he came up and like, it's really cool that 193 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 2: even though he only has three pitches and really only 194 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 2: able to focus in on two, he has not been 195 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 2: predictable with them, which is like the main reason he's 196 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 2: finding success at such a young age. And that's a 197 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 2: veteran move from a young pitcher, something that makes me 198 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 2: feel really confident in the future of Tyler and McGill. 199 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you want to take some positive out of it, 200 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: it's that, you know, like you said, it's a cop out, 201 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 1: but he did pitch well after giving up four which 202 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: whatever you want to take from that from a young pitcher, 203 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: I think it's important to see that I didn't give up, 204 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: especially when we've had guys like Steven Mattz who were 205 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: known to Avalanche. So he did an Avalanche. That's big. 206 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 2: David Peterson, King of the Avalanche. 207 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, they we have some young pitchers that have had 208 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: some trouble with that in the past. He fought back. 209 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,479 Speaker 1: He didn't have his best stuff, but he still relatively 210 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: kept us close, relatively against this Marlins team and has 211 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 1: Los Lozardo who looked all right, nothing special. Yeah, it's 212 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: the first time haz lucisar the start of the game 213 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:21,719 Speaker 1: in two months. So I was hoping that we'd be 214 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: able to hit him a little bit, and did feel 215 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: like we were chipping away and making him work a 216 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: lot in that second, third, and fourth inning. We just 217 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: couldn't our third, fourth, and fifth whenever we scored the runs, 218 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: it just wasn't like enough to really knock itt risp 219 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: its risp again. The risp is just so it's I 220 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't even know anymore. It's gotta be 221 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: so in this team's head. It's gotta be a mental block, 222 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 1: one hundred percent. There's no doubt in my mind it's 223 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 1: a mental block. Every time they step up with rudgers 224 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: and scoring position, it's like these guys tighten up. We're 225 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: back to the start of the year. Go figure that 226 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: this New York Mets team right now, this healthier team 227 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 1: lost a series against the Marlins, and we had a 228 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 1: triple A, double A roster going up against the Marlins, 229 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: and we felt like those games were much more redeemable 230 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: than what we saw this week. 231 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 2: They were at least more fun, Like there were guys 232 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 2: like fighting, clawing, scratching tooth and nail, Like everyone there 233 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 2: was really amped up to be playing baseball. This team 234 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 2: felt so lifeless this entire series. My god, it was painful. 235 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 2: I felt that always happened to the Mets. W we 236 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 2: head to Miami. There's no crowd, there's no vibes. It's 237 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 2: like a weird dark tint inside that stadium. It's just 238 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 2: there was no juice. This team needs juice, and we 239 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 2: had none of it. 240 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: I always love to talk about how like this team 241 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: is so reliant on the crowd and so reliant on 242 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: the energy, and you just said that. But I'm also 243 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: so sick and tired of them seemingly not being able 244 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: to show up unless they are amped for this game, 245 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: and they just they weren't amped this entire series, nothing 246 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: like you just said. Confordo didn't start this game. I 247 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: think that's worth noting as well. He got benched, which 248 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: I think was he's. 249 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 2: Just not playing against lefties anymore, and I think that's 250 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 2: pretty fair given his monumental struggles against them. He's been 251 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:00,080 Speaker 2: god awful. He talked about his WRC plus being fifty. 252 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 2: I can't imagine it's much higher. No, I dropped the 253 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 2: meme today from Mets Up like the uh fred Scooby 254 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 2: Doo meme of pulling off Michael confordo's mask and revealing 255 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 2: Kirk newon Heist, because that's how it feels right now. 256 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 2: Michael Conford though, he's either taking a walk or he's 257 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 2: just getting out pretty uncompetitively. 258 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: Swing is looking ugly like Kirk newon Heist too. My 259 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:18,719 Speaker 1: thing with Kirk newinh Heist when he played I was like, 260 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if he's actually left handed. And that's 261 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: where I'm starting to fall with Michael conforda right now. 262 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: Despite seeing what we've seen in the past. I know 263 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 1: it's still only one hundred or ninety games have been 264 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: playing awful, but my god, it's terrible. But not his fault. 265 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: While we lost this game, the offense didn't show up. 266 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: We gave up runs early, tried to rally a little 267 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: bit late, but it didn't help, and then they kind 268 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: of struggled to when he came in at the end 269 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: didn't help keep it close. 270 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, that kind of was the nail in the coffin 271 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 2: because we did have a rally in the eighth. You 272 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 2: are pinch hit for McCann, which is interesting because that 273 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 2: was not goodfour though, and then Drewry hit for himself 274 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 2: against righty which again was not Michael conford though, but 275 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 2: just couldn't do it, just not enough. And then, of 276 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 2: course with Confordo came up in the ninth as a 277 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 2: pinch hitter in a three or four run game, whatever 278 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 2: it was. He laced a double. But that's the classic Conforto, 279 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 2: the dude when the game doesn't matter, he will show 280 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 2: up when there's nothing to fight for. 281 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: Michael Conforto's there. 282 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 2: It's the a Rod. 283 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: It is such the a rod. And I hated that. 284 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: I hated that whole narrative that would go around Mets Twitter. 285 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 2: But god, I've bought into it because in the biggest 286 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 2: year of his career and all that, he has disappeared. 287 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: So Game one lost, terrible, awful. 288 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 2: Can I give a bad joke? Yeah, give a bad joke. 289 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 2: We're playing the Marlins and Confordo has floundered. Oh, that's 290 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 2: terrible joke. It's a bad joke. 291 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: That's terrible. Move on to game two. I've had enough 292 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: of that joke. Taiwan. 293 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 2: Yeah doesn't have it. He just doesn't have it, man, 294 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 2: He's saying it for a very long time in this show. 295 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 2: The aggression was coming, and now it has come. In 296 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 2: the terms of fatigue, I think more so, But like, 297 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 2: holy fuck, was this dude leaving the ball over the 298 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 2: middle of the plate just inviting hard contact. 299 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: He has hit a wall and he has hit it 300 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: so hard, and I can't be upset at him. It's 301 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: not anything that he can really control. Again, you've mentioned it. 302 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: Sixty seven and two thirds in over the last three 303 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: years is so so few innings. So yeah, when a 304 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: guy is approaching one hundred and ten after throwing sixty 305 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: seven in three years, you'd imagine his arm is going 306 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: to start to fall off. And if the Mets had 307 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: jig de Gram and we had Cinderguard back and Carrasco 308 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: was able to be back to his full health, of 309 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: course you're getting the mysterious il stint where he misses 310 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: a couple starts, but the Mets unfortunately have to pitch 311 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: him every five days still because we got nobody. 312 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 2: No, no one that could be better, Like even Taiwan 313 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 2: with half an arm is much better than Jerad I cough. 314 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: And that's what makes the trade deadline so frustrating that 315 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: we only got rich Hill and then Trevor Williams, who's 316 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: not even on the major league roster. The fact knowing 317 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: that these numbers and stuff were all available to the 318 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: Mets front office, and you had to know that if 319 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: you got half a year out of Taiwan, which we 320 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 1: did and he was great for that half the year, 321 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: that's a. 322 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 2: Huge plus Taiwan. We're looking for the future for him. 323 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 2: We got the two year deal for a reason. 324 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: We knew that this year wasn't gonna be a full season, 325 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: and somehow it seemed like everybody but the Mets knew that. 326 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 2: Dude. I think it's interesting to note that if Taiwan 327 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 2: contract situation was a little bit different, I bet he'd 328 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 2: be handled differently. Like let's just say Taiwan was the 329 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 2: super prospect that he once was right now, and injuries 330 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 2: had cut a couple of the season short, and then 331 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 2: he had the COVID season, and we knew we had 332 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,599 Speaker 2: like four years of control for Taiwan still, and he 333 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 2: had the seventy innings over the last three years. I 334 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 2: bet he would have hit a hard cap, but rather 335 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 2: one hundred or one hundred and ten. But I don't 336 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 2: think that the Mets management really cares if his arm 337 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 2: falls off. You know, they're doing everything they can, not 338 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 2: everything they Uh yeah, I think they're doing as much 339 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 2: as they think they should be doing to try and 340 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 2: win the division this season. And that starts with Taiwan 341 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 2: Walker pitching every fifth day. And I don't even think 342 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 2: we'd be having this conversation if Taiwan wasn't so lights 343 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 2: out in the first half. He was signed not for 344 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 2: like depth, but he we talked about him as the 345 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 2: five star. Then we pulled him in off free agency. 346 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 2: The fact that he was so dominant, like, oh, this 347 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 2: guy's a very central piece of this team, like now 348 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 2: we need him to pitch. It's really interesting how our 349 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 2: views of him are been different oscillated as the season 350 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 2: has progressed. 351 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: The whole scope of the Mets season has changed so 352 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: much week by week, and this week it is down. 353 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: I wish I could have some positives to pick from 354 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: Taiwan's start, but there just wasn't a lot. He's hit 355 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: the wall, he's tired. He has the velocity. I guess 356 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: it's still there. That's that's maybe a positive. 357 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got a couple, Like weird positives also tie 358 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 2: into negatives because the velosity is totally fine for Taiwan. 359 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 2: He was actually up a tick almost every single pitch 360 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 2: at the start against Miami. And also the whiffs are 361 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 2: still there. He got fourteen and forty four swings. That's 362 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 2: right in line with the season average, honestly a tiny 363 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 2: bit higher. But again, it's just so many hit able pitches. 364 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 2: It's mostly the command of everything. I was gonna say 365 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 2: his off speeds, but he's still not getting the call 366 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 2: strikes that he'd been getting in that two seamer from 367 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 2: you know, the real fun times in summer May in June. 368 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 2: But there were just so many sliders and splithers down 369 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 2: the middle. It was over and over and repeated every inning. 370 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 2: When they weren't hitting it hard, the Mets were just 371 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 2: making a play. The Diaz and Alex Jackson home runs 372 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 2: were both on splithers that were just like right fucking 373 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 2: there on the tee. If you leave that splither in 374 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 2: the middle of the zone, Ry's familiar will tell you 375 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 2: that thing is getting crush. 376 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: He was thrown like high and away like he just 377 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: had an absolutely no command of it. 378 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 2: He has nothing. It's just he's it's so clearly a 379 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 2: step back, and it's so obvious that it's because of fatigue, 380 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 2: just because I don't think that we saw this guy's talent. 381 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 2: We saw his potential, and we saw the way he's mixing. 382 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 2: He was mixing his pitches. Now the velocity is still 383 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 2: there and he's just not sharp and there's nothing that's 384 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 2: gonna make him sharp. Besides rest, he's not gonna get it. 385 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: No, not gonna get it now. On the other aspect 386 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: of things here, on the other side of the coin, 387 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: the Mets offense was freaking terrible again. 388 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 2: So awful, so freaking awful. Tim Britton, Mets beat rather 389 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 2: for the Athletic, dropped a crazy stat after this game 390 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 2: about the Mets lineup and especially how poor the Mets 391 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 2: lineup has played at the beginning of games over the 392 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 2: Mets ten games from Game two backs, not including games 393 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 2: three and four, because the Mets offense actually did spark 394 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 2: a little bit the first couple of times through the oiler, 395 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 2: so games one and two and basically the ten games 396 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 2: back since the all start break, the Mets lineup is 397 00:16:56,360 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 2: slashing two oh eight three point fifteen two sixty the 398 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 2: first time through the order. 399 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: God two sixty slugging. Yes, that's so. What is that? 400 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: That's an ops of five seventy five. 401 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 2: That's like based on where that average is that's probably 402 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 2: like three or four extra base hits in the first 403 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 2: two of the three innings. 404 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: That's so frigging horrible. 405 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 2: It's crazy because it's not like this lineup is bad 406 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 2: right now. The players in this lineup are generally good. 407 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 2: Brandon ne Moos hitting lead off every day all besides, 408 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 2: he missed a week, so scratch that. Jeff McNeil, Pete Alonzo, 409 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 2: Hobby Bias, J D Davis, Tom Smith. These guys every 410 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 2: single day are in the order and not able to hit. 411 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 2: And it's so troubling. I can't believe we're still having 412 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 2: this conversation August. 413 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,199 Speaker 1: It's frustrating. We even talked about it a little bit 414 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: today at the Brooklyn Cyclones game. Chillie Davis won the problem. No, 415 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: but I don't think it's a huge problem either. 416 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 2: No. Yeah, I don't want you to cast blame on 417 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 2: Guila bomb here. I just think that how much could 418 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 2: have hitting. Coach too, he can't tell. He can't tell. 419 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 2: The guy's like, relax, like you're really good, why are 420 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 2: you not hitting? But it's just it just doesn't working. 421 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: I think it just goes back to the thing of 422 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 1: where the Mets seem to be guessing every single time. 423 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: And this is why you might see a guy like 424 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: Canfordo having the hitter yips like I said, or Dom 425 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 1: being so indecisive at times, even Alonzo McNeil, like all 426 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: these guys like just it seems like we're not swinging 427 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: at the right pitches. It seems like our approach is 428 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: just absolutely garbage right now. I mean, if it wasn't 429 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: for Pete Alonso and Brandon Nemo and McNeil, this team 430 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: might not have won very many games over the last ten. 431 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 2: This team very easily could be on like a ten 432 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 2: to twelve game losing streak right now. It wouldn't even 433 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:31,719 Speaker 2: be shocking the few games that we've won. And we'll 434 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 2: get to Game three in a moment, because that was 435 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 2: a somewhat of a bright spot in the series. It 436 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 2: just seems like such a miracle when we win. 437 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: A game, and it shouldn't with this lineup. When's the 438 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: last easy Mets win, last easy Mets win. It wasn't 439 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: this series, It wasn't last series. It has to have 440 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: been Toronto. 441 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're getting screwed up the schedule again. Whould be 442 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 2: playing in between Toronto and Cincinnati? Last weekday series? Was 443 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 2: it the Braves, the Braves? The five game series against 444 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 2: the Braves, those were difficult games, didn't score a lot 445 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 2: of runs either of the really scratched and Claude this offense, man, 446 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 2: it's rough, I mean JD. We also got a little 447 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 2: insight with him that his hand had been bothering him. 448 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 2: That's why he didn't play against the Reds. And it 449 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 2: looks like his hand's bothering him again because his swings 450 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 2: have been god awful too. Yeah, he like swung right 451 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 2: through a ninety one mile on there fastball down the 452 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 2: dick and he was like, my hand's like, why are 453 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 2: you in the lineup? Then? Yeah, if you're hurt, you 454 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 2: can't be playing. And if the Mets knew he's hurt, 455 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 2: how do we not go get a third baseman? I 456 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 2: don't know, man, I'm starting like I hate being this guy, 457 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 2: I really do. And of course, Monday morning quarterback, you know, 458 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,199 Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it, hindsight's twenty twenty, but 459 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 2: damn that Mets deadlines looking worse and worse as the 460 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 2: days go on. You know, it's the worst part of 461 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 2: this whole deadline. And something that I thought about in 462 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,239 Speaker 2: between you dropping me off from the Cyclones game. Then 463 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 2: I'll start in this recording. It's a really sick, disgusting thought, 464 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you, and you're just gonna really hurt. 465 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 2: But oh boy, watching highlights from the Bronx to night 466 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 2: and seeing Joey Gallo hit like a big home ron 467 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 2: to give the Yankees a win. The Yankees had the 468 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 2: deadline that everyone thought the Mets were gonna have, and 469 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 2: they're now parlaying it into massive success and a hot 470 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 2: streak that is a good chance propels them to the postseason. 471 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:16,479 Speaker 2: And it's brutal watching that happened. And not having the 472 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 2: prospect capital to make the trades that we wanted to 473 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 2: and then not pulling the trigger to give away our 474 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 2: better prospects to improve our major league team hurts like hell, 475 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 2: and I'm jealous. 476 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: Hurts like hell. 477 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 2: We needed it badly, and it's showing in a series 478 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 2: where you can't scratch runs against the friggin Florida Marlins 479 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 2: when they had no pitchers, even pitching. We didn't face 480 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 2: Sandy Alkintara, we didn't face Trevor Rodgers Pabolopez on the 481 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 2: il like we faced nonsense every single game. We couldn't 482 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 2: get hits, Braxton, Garrett, Zach Thompson, not saying those guys 483 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 2: don't have a little bit of potential. I like Zach 484 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 2: Thompson a little bit. Brax and Garrett looked like Greg 485 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 2: fucking Maddox today, But wow, can you hit those guys? Do? 486 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: We couldn't even hit David Hess. 487 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 2: Oh my god. I literally had that note on this game. 488 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 2: We had a painful inning against the worst pitcher ever, 489 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 2: David Hess a career er. I think, like in the sixes, 490 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 2: that's awesome, that's sick. I love to hear that too. 491 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 1: Lugo starting to scare me a little bit. 492 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if he's starting to scare you. 493 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 2: It's just he dies once. He hits like twenty pitches now, 494 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,239 Speaker 2: and the Mets are still committed to using him as 495 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 2: a multi inning due and he just isn't that like. 496 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 2: He had a super clean first inning. I believe I 497 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 2: was the seventh and they tried him back out. He 498 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 2: was way off, way off. You couldn't lookate anything. 499 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: I think Castro was on the covid il technically still 500 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: I think it came off. The next game, and of 501 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 1: course we find out that Diaz has also gone for 502 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 1: paternity leave. I don't think that really mattered in Game two, 503 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 1: but maybe a little bit. 504 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 2: I don't know. 505 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: They were trying to maximize their arms as much as 506 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: possible Mets bullpen. That would have also been nice to 507 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 1: add a little bit too into the in the deadline, 508 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: Like the Mets just got the one thing that I 509 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 1: think was probably our least concern, which was hobby biased 510 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: to play shortstop. 511 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's almost like the curse for us, like not 512 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 2: wanting Adam Fraser. Now we got the anti Adam Fraser, 513 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 2: who's probably still worth like the same amount, and like 514 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 2: war you know. 515 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, it's so frustrating. It's so frustrating to just 516 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: have to go through these games. It's painful. It is 517 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: so painful because there's it's I hate being negative. 518 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 2: One of the best memes I saw that came out 519 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 2: of this series for Mets Twitter. I forgot who posted it, 520 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 2: and I'm really apologize because I like to give people 521 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 2: credit when they post funny stuff on the Internet. But 522 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 2: it was a curb your Enthusiasm. A scene where Larry 523 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 2: David's walking out of lunch with Richard Lewis and he goes, 524 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 2: fuck you, I'll see you tomorrow. That was the series. 525 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 2: It's how I feel watching those best you guys, and 526 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 2: I'll see this tomorrow. 527 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: Luckily for us, the next day at least the Mets won, at. 528 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 2: Least the Mets one. But like God, we made it 529 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 2: so hard. 530 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: So difficult. You shouldn't have difficult wins against the Marlins 531 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 1: team who sold at the deadline. They didn't try to 532 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: get better, they got are worse entire starting outfield, scraping 533 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: wins against them. 534 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 2: We don't have Joe neshwe Fargus and Jake Hager and 535 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 2: will Fredo Tovar starting we have all stars. 536 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: We have good players. 537 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 2: I totally forgot about Jake Hager. 538 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: He got his first career hit with the Mets, and 539 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 1: then we said smell you later, DFA, Like, how badly 540 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: do we miss Billy McKinney. 541 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 2: Oh my god, what that would do for Billy McKinney's 542 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 2: bat right. 543 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: Now, Billy freaking bombs man. 544 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 2: This game at least like the offense made moves early, 545 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 2: like Dom Hovey and Canforthough, although the bases with no 546 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 2: outs to believe it was the second inning and all 547 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 2: three actually came around to score. 548 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: Miracle. 549 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, just ring the bell like we did it like 550 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 2: everyone Merry Christmas ion or a happy New Year's, like 551 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 2: let's let's have a parade. But it was all a 552 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 2: complete nonsense, like it wasn't actually hits or like a 553 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 2: ball in the gap, something that we've really cried for 554 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 2: in April when we hadn't seen one and felt like weeks. 555 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 2: It was a ground ball out and then another ground 556 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 2: ball that Hobby Bias made a Superman slide six slide, 557 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 2: no reason he ever should have been safe on that play, 558 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 2: and then there was an error. Can never get our 559 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 2: be as traditional white with this team. Those were runs 560 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 2: simply because the Marlins are a bad team because they 561 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 2: play bad baseball. They don't they played no, They make 562 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 2: the most errors in baseball. They swing at the most 563 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 2: pitches out of the zone, I believe, and they also 564 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 2: take the most strikes. They have no what they're doing. 565 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 2: I've always said, Donnie Baseball is a god awful manager. 566 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 2: If you ever want a proof, it's there. You know 567 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 2: what they do well. Though mel Stottlemile Junior, he's great, 568 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 2: he wasn't even here this series. Donny Baseball wasn't the 569 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 2: health and safety protogals. 570 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: No, I know that, but I'm just saying it's it's 571 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: still his responsibility. When Louis Rojas steps out and Dave 572 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: Jos wins a game, Yeah, we love Dave Jows, but 573 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: this is Rojas's teams. 574 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 2: One of a big positive from this game was Carrasco. 575 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 2: He again just looked very good. Looked like like the 576 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 2: top thirty pitcher in baseball he's been for the last 577 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 2: five years. He did lose it for sure around fifty 578 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 2: pitches once that fifth inning got kind of like dicey, 579 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 2: and that's because he's still building up. His team is 580 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 2: not gonna let him go very far past that, especially 581 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 2: since he's now shown to struggle at that point and 582 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 2: he's just not gonna see a lineup for the third time. 583 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 2: He doesn't really seem to have the command of all 584 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 2: his pitches yet. I mentioned last week how Carrasco was 585 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 2: throwing all sinkers. Now was his thing. This game, it 586 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 2: was all sliders through like fifty percent of the time, 587 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 2: which is something he's done in the past and had. 588 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 2: He's seen a lot of success while doing it, and 589 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 2: I think it's an avenue that could make him an 590 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 2: incredibly successful starting pitcher. He got eight whiffs on him 591 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,199 Speaker 2: and twenty swings, which is just fireflames. That's amazing. And 592 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 2: you mostly use it against righty's, which makes sense with 593 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 2: a righty throwing righty sliders. And he was just dotting 594 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 2: them all loan and outside loan and outside loan, outside 595 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 2: great command. He'd only thrown four of them to lefties 596 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 2: until that Joe Panic at bat in the fifth inning 597 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 2: that seemed give him a lot of trouble. What that 598 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 2: guy doesn't do with power, he does it with taking 599 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 2: good at bats. That guy really makes you work. And 600 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 2: literally he had only thrown four sliders to lefties the 601 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 2: entire game, and he threw three in that at bat 602 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 2: against Panic and he finally left went over the middle 603 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 2: and Panic just made them pay with a fucking single. 604 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, Carrasco, what we've seen so far has been really encouraging. Yes, 605 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 1: if you want to pull something positive out of it, 606 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 1: so that if you're a Mets fan, he's not giving 607 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 1: you the length right now, but you have to know why. 608 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: But it's good to see that, like he's still very 609 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: much a very good pitcher when he is like in 610 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 1: his zone. 611 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, the bad Mets take of the week is all 612 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 2: the mongoloid, So like, he gotta leave this guy in there. 613 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 2: He only has sixty five pitches. He's pitching a good game. No, 614 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 2: this man has dealt with a myriad of health issues 615 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 2: over the last couple of years. He needs to just 616 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 2: be okay. We need to like build him up slowly. 617 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:09,679 Speaker 2: He's only pitching right now because the team is in 618 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 2: such dire strait. I'm sure if we were okay and 619 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 2: like generally healthy and not playing the worst baseball I've 620 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 2: ever seen, he would be on like a month long 621 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 2: rehab assignment. We just need him. 622 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: I think if you're a Mets fan, you have to 623 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: compare and contrast here a little bit little ven diagram. 624 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 1: On one side, you got Carlos Carrasco. On one side, 625 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: you got Jaredykoff, and then you've got the middle. Jared 626 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: Iykoff is gonna give up ten runs, he's gonna stink 627 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: up the place, and you're gonna want to jump off 628 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: the roof of your building. Carlos Carrasco is gonna throw, 629 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: and he's gonna pitch pretty well. He's gonna give you 630 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: a chance, and you go, hey, there's a competent MLB pitcher. 631 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 1: The middle, they're gonna go three or four innings. They're 632 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: gonna throw the same length, but one's gonna give you 633 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: a chance to win, and one is completely fucking terrible. 634 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 2: Like giving a visual to the podcast listeners at home. 635 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 2: That's a good that'll play way better on YouTube. 636 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: Yes, but it's ridiculous to complain about. 637 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 2: Him, No, especially when he's still giving us a very 638 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 2: good chance to win the games he's pitching like he 639 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 2: pitched very well this game. He did give up tour 640 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 2: in runs technically because Luke get let up the inherited runner, 641 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 2: which is a shame. Loup never does that. But I'll 642 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 2: give him a free pass because he's one of the 643 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 2: best relievers in baseball statistically, and we were in this game. 644 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 2: We had the three runs early and then Familia just 645 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 2: gave up the tying home run to Aguilar that felt 646 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:20,719 Speaker 2: like a back breaker. 647 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: One bad pitch. He struck out the rest of the 648 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: rest of the inning. 649 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 2: All three. 650 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 1: His stuff is still nasty. Has Aguilar has just always 651 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 1: been a thorn in our side as a Mets fans. 652 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: He's a professional hitter, leads leads the league in RBI, 653 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: so it's no slouch. As much as we like to 654 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: take shots at the Marlins play hazers. Agular is a 655 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,239 Speaker 1: leader on that team, a guy that I would love 656 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: to have on the Mets, just for a spiritual leader 657 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 1: right now, maybe boost up the spirits, because boy oh boy, 658 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 1: there's no leader right now in this field. But that's 659 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,880 Speaker 1: something he does. He leads by example. Nice home run 660 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: off Jerry Similia. I'll give credit where it's due, but 661 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: it's stunk. 662 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 2: You defend Jerry's familia like he's your son. 663 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:57,719 Speaker 1: I love Jerry's familia. 664 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 2: Who will do anything for him? 665 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 1: I will do because said, all right, here's my thing 666 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 1: with Jerry's familia. 667 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 2: You missed today. 668 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: Well, hey, I wasn't watching, so that doesn't count. If 669 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 1: I don't see it, it doesn't happen, of course. But like 670 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: I feel like Mets fans are so quick to say 671 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: Jerry's familia is trash and he's not the best. 672 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 2: No, But I think if you watch this guy pitch 673 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 2: and don't realize that, like his wildness is not because 674 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 2: he's like actually terrible. 675 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: His pitches simply just move too much. Sometimes, Like there's 676 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: a couple of nights where he's gonna throw a sinker 677 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: and it breaks eighteen inches. He's like, I can't where 678 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 1: do you want me to throw this? I physically can't 679 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: ever throw it for a strike. It's not possible. 680 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 2: Black magic. 681 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: He's he's a witch on the mound sometimes but and 682 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: other times he's like this where he gives up a 683 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: home run and then strikes out the next three batters. 684 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it happens, and luckily our actual trade deadline acquisition 685 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 2: Hobby Baya is really saved the day in this game. 686 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 2: This was the Hobby Bye's MVP game. This was the 687 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 2: top ends of the Hobby Baya's experience. You saw the slide, 688 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 2: you saw him play good defense, he saw him hit 689 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 2: a home run. That's what gets people cited about Hobby 690 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 2: Bias is when he plays like this. The problem is 691 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 2: the rest of the series he was pretty much nonexistent. 692 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 2: He struck out ten times. 693 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: He had the platinum sombrera today. I think he said, 694 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: which is jumping ahead a little bit, but he is, 695 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: So what's the word where you're like all over the place, inconsistent, inconsistent, 696 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: no volatile, volatile. 697 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 2: He is so volatile. So you're gonna get the good, 698 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 2: You're gonna get the bad. Today was the good in 699 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 2: Game three. It's a hobby, not today. That was a 700 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 2: couple of days ago. Now, yeah, it's a long day, 701 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 2: but he's been up since eight am, which doesn't sound 702 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 2: like a lot. But you're talking to a guy who 703 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 2: goes to bed at three. So I'm like running on 704 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 2: five hours sleep, a long day in the sun. I'm dying, 705 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 2: especially talking about this awful, god forsaken series. But Hobby 706 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 2: saved the day. We're gonna give the guy shit when 707 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,719 Speaker 2: he swings on three to zero and takes himself out 708 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 2: of a bat. We're gonna give him all the credit 709 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 2: in the world when he wins the Mets a game. 710 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 2: And he won the Mets this game. That's so win 711 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 2: this game without Hobby bias. That was clutch. He has 712 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 2: that top end that not many other players in baseball do, 713 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 2: and it's very happy to to see him use it. 714 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 2: And luckily for us, Drew Flow Trevor may come in 715 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 2: to shut the door at the end of the game. 716 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 2: They both looked sick, they both looked awesome. Two great 717 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 2: endings that thought. It was interesting to note that Drew 718 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 2: Flow came into pitch after Castro and Familia, which I 719 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 2: think shows like maybe a bit of the changing of 720 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 2: the guard in this bullpen, and how basically after our prediction, 721 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,719 Speaker 2: Drew Flow has ascended into one of the more trusted 722 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 2: relievers in this bullpen. He's officially on the A team. 723 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 2: I'll put them there at least while Di has opportunity 724 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 2: to leave. Drew Flow is on the Mets A team, 725 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 2: which is awesome because you called it very much so, 726 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 2: and I jumped on the bandwagon right with you. So 727 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 2: the Drew Flow podcast good looks for us as always, 728 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 2: and we gotta win. 729 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: Needed it badly, badly. I I think after the first 730 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: two games I was a little negative. I tweeted out, 731 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: I feel like Frank the Tank, which that's about the 732 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: lowest of low that you could ever go as a 733 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: Mets fans. 734 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 2: You said, I am Frank the Tank. 735 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, whatever it was, it was bad and I was 736 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: like so negative and so down. This win at least 737 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: saved my sanity. But it just went completely out the. 738 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 2: Door in game four. If we have gotten swept in 739 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 2: this year, I would have I would have laid down traffic. 740 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: Oh my god. I would have just kept walking into 741 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: the ocean in Coney Island and see how far I 742 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: can go. I bricks to my feet. 743 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 2: There was a funny meme that the Cesspas Barbique barbecue 744 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 2: guy posted today after he finished his his bike ride 745 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 2: from New York to Chicago, which is just insane behavior. 746 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 2: It was, uh, he got to the lake in Chicago 747 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 2: and it was a video of someone just biking, not 748 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 2: stopping right over the edge and just landing in the 749 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 2: water with their bike. That that's what we both would 750 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 2: have done if the Mets would have gotten swept four 751 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 2: games in Miami. 752 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: But we were lucky, we only lost three. 753 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 2: Thank God, save the season, baby. 754 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: Our lives are still intact here because they only lost 755 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: three because Game four disaster. 756 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 2: Wow. 757 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: Talk about the epitome of the Mets season. Bases loaded, 758 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: no outs. Love a good single by Dom Smith. He's 759 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: He's the single man this year. Extra base hits, not 760 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: interested singles. 761 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 2: Yes, barrels. Never heard of her. 762 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: Bases loaded, no outs. You knew it was coming, You 763 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: knew JD strikes out. Hobby Bias has an uncompetitive at bat. 764 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 2: When Hobby Baya stepped to the plate, there was one 765 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 2: hundred percent chance the Mets were not scoring a run. 766 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,959 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, factual, especially after hitting the game winning home run. 767 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 2: The day before. He was so excited to just like 768 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 2: catapult the Mets season with another first inning Grand Slam. 769 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 2: And he was just swinging out of his shoes when 770 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 2: the Mets all we needed was a flat ball and 771 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 2: then Canfordo came up, and I mean, come on, you 772 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 2: really think Michael Canfordo is gonna be able to score run? Now? 773 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: He did work to count two. Oh, then he did 774 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,239 Speaker 1: get screwed on a low strike call that was a 775 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: ball which then he got into three to one, forced 776 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: him though to swing at this pitch. He swung at 777 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: ball four and we scored no runs. 778 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 2: And I tweeted out the ah shit, here we go 779 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 2: again me because my god, once that happens, it was over. 780 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: It didn't matter that it was zero zero. The Mets 781 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: have lost the game. Richill didn't even pitch bad. 782 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 2: No pitch he actually pitched. 783 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, the offense is just anemic. 784 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 2: It was also a real like swift kick in the 785 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 2: dick that rich Hall came up twice with men of 786 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 2: scoring but not mena scoring position. But he came up 787 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 2: twice and run producing opportunities the double play in the 788 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 2: and then when he came out came up in the 789 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 2: fourth after Almore's single with first and third and two hours, 790 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 2: I wrote in the notes, this is your time to ran. Yeah. 791 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: Are you happy? Are you fucking happy? This is what 792 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: you wanted. You wanted to see rich Hill and his 793 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: forty two year old ass swing a bat. 794 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 2: In my defense, the mess did not have Rich Hill. 795 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 2: When I was talking about supporting. You wanted to. 796 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 1: See Carlos Carrasco Tywan Walker went up left handed in 797 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: the game that he pitched because he was like, ash shit, 798 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: I can't hit righty. You wanted to see these pitchers 799 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: swing and bunt. This is the baseball you're interested in. 800 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 2: I've been proven wrong. I still like double switches, but. 801 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: Now knowing how much a DH would help this team, 802 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: although maybe it wouldn't. 803 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 2: You want another hitter? 804 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: Can we get to gram to DH. I know he 805 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: can't throw, he swing a bat? 806 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 2: No, absolutely not. 807 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: I fucking hate pitchers hitting. 808 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 2: It is so infuriating, especially when we've had multiple pitchers 809 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 2: get hurt from hitting this year. That's the worst part. 810 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: We didn't even talk about the injuries that caused no. 811 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 2: I also, I couldn't even keep a straight face watching 812 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 2: Braxton Garretts just dot up ninety two, over and over again, 813 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 2: ninety even. 814 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 1: Why was her first round pick soft tossing lefty? 815 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, to happen again? 816 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 1: Happened again? Do the Mets like are they do? They 817 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: have a a phobia of left handed pitchers that throw 818 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: low nineties. 819 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 2: You gave me the take today. I think you saw 820 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 2: on Twitter that Dave Jaus just throws too good at 821 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 2: beatpay so the Mets can't actually hit in the games. 822 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: We're starting to try to come up with these crazy 823 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: reasons as to why this Mets team just refuses to hit. 824 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 1: Dave Jous just throws two good beatps. They only look 825 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: for pitches down the middle. But even then, the Mets 826 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: don't make pictures pay for their mistakes. Gotta be the 827 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 1: worst at like. I wish there was a stat you 828 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 1: can't find. It doesn't exist. No for hanging pitches. I 829 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 1: want hangers. Well, I want to know the percentage of 830 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,439 Speaker 1: pitches that the Mets hit that are hanging and make 831 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 1: out make like positive outcomes on They just don't do it. 832 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 2: Oh, if you give me five minutes, we could find 833 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 2: that right now. In the final'll use the search tool 834 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 2: and we'll do breaking balls hard of the zone. 835 00:34:58,840 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: All right, Fine, do that. 836 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 2: The Mets of the seventh lowes whoba and breaking pitches 837 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 2: in the down the middle. Sick. That's dope. 838 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 1: Can you tell me? The teams underneath the Mets just 839 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 1: just interesting. 840 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 2: It. It varies, actually, because some of these are pretty bad, 841 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 2: but some of these are actually quite good. The worst 842 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,720 Speaker 2: by far is the San Diego Padres, which is shocking 843 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 2: two thirty six Whoba, I'm breaking balls in the heart 844 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 2: of the zone. And then Dodgers are second to worst, 845 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 2: Then Yankees, White Sox, Brewers. 846 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,839 Speaker 1: Rays, well wait for the worst. 847 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,720 Speaker 2: Shockingly, Yes, those are the worst, those the lowest. 848 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: Those are all good teams. I'm so confused. 849 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe they just hit the other pitches way better. 850 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, probably all right. Anyway, we dove deep into the numbers. 851 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 2: It clearly is non conclusive as to whether or not 852 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 2: this is actually important, But it's true the Mets don't 853 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,280 Speaker 2: do it, yes, and all those teams do have pretty 854 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 2: big gaps between their wobas and their ex wobas. The Mets, 855 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 2: of course do not so a lot of those, especially 856 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 2: the Padres, the Yankees, especially Wow and the race. It 857 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 2: seems like love is a tribute to bad bad ball luck. 858 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:08,919 Speaker 1: Yeah. 859 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 2: Well, I don't have any of that. Met's have no 860 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,360 Speaker 2: good luck nor bad luck. They just don't love to 861 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 2: have some bad luck right now, Oh bad luck would 862 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,240 Speaker 2: be sick hitting the ball hard and someone making a play. 863 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 2: It's so much worse to just stink yes, and that's 864 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 2: tend to have bad luck. Dead is a door. Now. 865 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 2: We did like have a little bit of life in 866 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 2: the seventh lowered the bases after the VR. If you 867 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 2: heard the Ribby single gave us a tiny bit of life, 868 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 2: like the tiniest little bit shot of life. If we 869 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 2: were on the machine at the hospital and be like 870 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 2: beebe bo babe, there's a little bit of life. And 871 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,359 Speaker 2: then Dom puts one to the track. I know, two 872 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 2: pitch against again my guy, David fucking has worst pitcher 873 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:40,320 Speaker 2: in baseball. 874 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 1: I mean, Dom, Man, when's the last time that guy 875 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 1: really hit a ball hard? It just doesn't feel like 876 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 1: often anymore. 877 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 2: September O, Wait, who's got the It feels like the 878 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 2: old Dom's back a little bit here. The guy who 879 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 2: is a singles hitter will walk occasionally. The old Dom 880 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 2: could mean like a really good Dom or a really 881 00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 2: bad Domb. You have to specify the old Dom when 882 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 2: you say that now the dom that did not sleep 883 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 2: well sleep at me. Is this whole team not sleeping? 884 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 2: Are they not getting are they not eating the right foods? 885 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 2: We're clearly not stretching and drinking water. We know that 886 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 2: there's something else is gomadically wrong what this team does 887 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,800 Speaker 2: between the hours of like eleven and five. 888 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 1: I would love to just be a fly on the 889 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,240 Speaker 1: wall and see what's going on, because it's just gotta 890 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 1: be incorrect, creepy as fuck. Well, all right, fine, it 891 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 1: is creepy. Let's pick up a positive here. Castro good inning. 892 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 2: No, it seems pretty back. Two days in a row 893 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 2: of clean innings. Stuff, all seems good. Command's back. The 894 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 2: relievers just kind of do this. You'll just have to 895 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 2: be really bad for like a few weeks, and it 896 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 2: looks like the world is crashing down. But they're all 897 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 2: just high aerians players. They throw really hard for a 898 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 2: short period of time. Sometimes you're good, sometimes you're bad. 899 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 1: It's why I think Cashro's probably getting bumped down a 900 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 1: little bit and you're seeing Drew flow come up. I 901 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: think Drew flow is just a little more consistent, and 902 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 1: you know what you're gonna get on a given day. 903 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 1: Out of him pretty safely. Miguel Castro has the option 904 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 1: to be unhittable, but he also has the option where 905 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 1: he walks the bases loaded to Vladimir Gutierrez. 906 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it happens. All these things happen within Miguel Castro's 907 00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 2: range of outcomes, and that's a wild ride that the 908 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 2: Mets take very often. Now, let's talk about my guy 909 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 2: that I defend. Yeah, Jerry's similia did not have it, 910 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 2: certainly did not have it. Did the classic familia a 911 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 2: walk single single? Usually it's a walk walk single, or 912 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 2: a single walk walk or walk walk walk. 913 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,359 Speaker 1: But today it was a walk single single, and it's 914 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:17,919 Speaker 1: freaking Lewis Prinson, dude. 915 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 2: It was like one hundred and nine off the bat. 916 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 2: That was a laser beam. 917 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 1: The Mets might single handedly be responsible for reviving Lewis 918 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 1: Brinston's career. You want to talk about dead as a doornail. Yeah, 919 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,319 Speaker 1: that guy is only playing because they traded away every 920 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: other outfielder in this organization. The other option is Magnari's Sierra, 921 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 1: who's essentially a twelve year old playing center field. 922 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 2: It's a good defender, damn. He would be like the 923 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 2: most physically mature twelve year old I've ever seen. 924 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 1: He could throw the ball farther than he can hit it. 925 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 2: That's probably completely true. But if this actually becomes a 926 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 2: turning point Lewis Brinston's career, I'm going to be irate. 927 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 1: I'm would be so no turning point. He's bad, but 928 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,839 Speaker 1: the Mets, like we said at the beginning, made him 929 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 1: look not bad, made him look okay. 930 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 2: Oh, he looked fine. And we did make some noise 931 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 2: in the knife off of my guy Anthony Bender, who 932 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 2: I shouted out on this podcast in like May, I 933 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 2: really called the Anthony Bender come up. That was crazy. 934 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 2: But it's just really bittersweet. When the Mets have a 935 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,800 Speaker 2: rally and Albert al Mora is up, Brandon Drury just 936 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,840 Speaker 2: got an infield single, Kevin Palara is on deck, It's like, 937 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,800 Speaker 2: what are we doing here? Nothing's gonna happen. 938 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 1: When did Albert al Mora get back on this team? 939 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,280 Speaker 1: By the way, two days ago, I like completely forgot 940 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 1: he existed for a bit, and I think my life 941 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 1: was better when Albert Helmra was out of my brain. 942 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,839 Speaker 2: I had a moment this series where I was thinking, Wow, 943 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 2: if only we had Jose Peraza on this roster. 944 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 1: That's a gross place to be Albert Almorra. And by 945 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:38,360 Speaker 1: the way, we're only still in that end because the 946 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:39,319 Speaker 1: Marlins made two errors. 947 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're just very incompetent. 948 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: Bad baseball, bad baseball team. It's just simply that way. 949 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 1: Moral of the story. We're in trouble. 950 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 2: Just to transition to our Phillies preview, I am petrified 951 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 2: of what's going to happen this weekend. 952 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,720 Speaker 1: I don't want to say it because I have respect 953 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,279 Speaker 1: for myself, but I am shaking in my boost to 954 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:58,240 Speaker 1: face the Phillies. 955 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 2: To all the listeners at home, I've been trying to 956 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 2: Eggmark to go through this game tomorrow night, and he 957 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,240 Speaker 2: gave me a vivacious note. 958 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 1: There's no chance. There's no chance. I am not welcome 959 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 1: in the city of Philadelphia. 960 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 2: I've said a lot of really bad things about the people, 961 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,399 Speaker 2: the city, their culture, their food. I take a shot 962 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,720 Speaker 2: any chance I can, because I believe it. That place 963 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 2: is a cesspool. That's where the human trash goes to live. 964 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,400 Speaker 2: There are a bunch of mutants, and it's the asshole 965 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 2: of America. They want to talk about Jersey being the 966 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,720 Speaker 2: ard pit. At least we're not the asshole you guys 967 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 2: ate shit. There was a guy who literally ate horseship. No, 968 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 2: when the Eagles won the Super Bowl. I think you're 969 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 2: possibly mixing up two stories. Cleveland one hundred after the 970 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 2: Calves won the championship, someone ate horse shit on a street. 971 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 1: I think they copied the Eagles. I think they were like, 972 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 1: we gotta do caves. 973 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 2: One before the Eagles mental more, No way, I am 974 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,719 Speaker 2: so positive you don't live on the internet and not 975 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 2: know who ate shit. It was the fucking Calves man. 976 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,280 Speaker 1: Also, well, I'm looking this up right now. We're taking 977 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 1: another Jeopardy break here. Eagles fan eats horse poop during 978 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,920 Speaker 1: their Super Bowl win. A Cleveland fan also ate horse. 979 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 2: And that would happen. First check the receipts. 980 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 1: Twenty sixteen. 981 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,880 Speaker 2: You're right, okay, regardless, any place that eats poop is 982 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 2: not a place for me, and any place that also 983 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 2: has threatened me and said if you if I see 984 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 2: you in Philadelphia, it's on site, call me a pussy 985 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 2: all you want. 986 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,280 Speaker 1: They're gonna kick my ass. I'm five nine, one hundred 987 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 1: and fifty pounds. I'm not gonna win. 988 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:38,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be tough for you and I to walk 989 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,280 Speaker 2: into Citsins Bank Park three hundred pounds together soaking wet. 990 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 2: We would not stand up in a fight against drunk Philadelphians. 991 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 1: No, come to City Field. At least if I'm getting 992 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 1: beat on, someone else will join in and help. We're 993 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 1: outnumbered in Philadelphia, and there's nothing scarier than a bunch 994 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 1: of drunk Philadelphia people who hate me. That terrifies me. 995 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 1: I don't need to put this my life in risk 996 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 1: like this. 997 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,839 Speaker 2: In terms of the games themselves, they actually line up 998 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 2: kind of okay for the Mets, it's really not that bad. 999 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 2: Stroman versus Kyle Gibson on Friday Night, that's that's really 1000 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 2: our shot here. We have to win that game and 1001 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 2: no like we have to win that game and just 1002 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 2: try to make people feel okay, because if Stroman loses 1003 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 2: to Kyle Gibson, McGill's going against Ranger Suarez Saturday afternoon 1004 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,359 Speaker 2: in the four o'clock game. I love the four o'clock game, 1005 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,879 Speaker 2: but Suarez is good. He's only gonna throw three innings, 1006 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,319 Speaker 2: but he's gonna be very effective when he does it. 1007 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 2: So that's probably gonna be a Suarez piggybacked by either 1008 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 2: Matt Moore or Bailey Falter if he's recalled from his 1009 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 2: rehab assignment after being in the covid Iell Bailey Fult's 1010 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 2: a guy like a lot. I don't know if he's 1011 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 2: gonna pitch. He's not my Philly to watch, but the 1012 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:40,360 Speaker 2: guy's great stuff. 1013 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:41,360 Speaker 1: What about Chase Anderson? 1014 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 2: Chase Anderson, No, he's not pitching, but we really fucked 1015 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:45,440 Speaker 2: that one up. 1016 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 1: No, he might pitch Game two if he's picking back 1017 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:49,719 Speaker 1: off of I believe he. 1018 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 2: Pitched on Wednesday. He either pitched Tuesday or Wednesday, so 1019 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:53,400 Speaker 2: I don't think we're gonna see him, but I mean 1020 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:54,919 Speaker 2: he probably went threw an inning and a half because 1021 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 2: he fucking sucks nuts, so whatever. And then Sunday afternoon, 1022 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,319 Speaker 2: we're gonna watch Zach Wheeler destroy. 1023 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,399 Speaker 1: It dice us up on his way to winning the cy. 1024 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,920 Speaker 2: Young gonna be awful to watch. It's gonna be hot, 1025 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 2: they're gonna be hungover, and Zach Wheeler is gonna annihilate 1026 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,319 Speaker 2: the Mets. He's gonna throw a seven shut out of anything. 1027 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 2: Ten K's three hits, one walk, and Tywe Walker is 1028 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 2: gonna just casually give up five runs and six INNX. 1029 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 1: Can't stress enough how important it is to win Game 1030 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,279 Speaker 1: one because if the Mets lose, they get rid of 1031 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 1: the first place grasp for the first time in over 1032 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 1: two months. Yeah, and let me tell you, if you 1033 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,279 Speaker 1: thought Mets Twitter was bad right now, as soon as 1034 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,279 Speaker 1: the Phillies overtake first place, it is going to be 1035 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,280 Speaker 1: the SpongeBob mean of everything's on fire and running around 1036 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,319 Speaker 1: and like what do we do? It is going to 1037 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,840 Speaker 1: be chaos. It is going to be hell, And I'm terrified. 1038 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 2: I am so scared for this series. J two real. 1039 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,239 Speaker 2: Muto's scorching hot. Bryce Harper scorching hot. 1040 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:44,800 Speaker 1: He's getting MVP talks Harper. 1041 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 2: I bet I think he's a good chance he wins it. 1042 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 1: I said at the beginning of the year he had 1043 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:49,879 Speaker 1: great odds to start. He was like plus twelve hundred. 1044 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, that's weird. They're a competitive team. He plays 1045 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:53,520 Speaker 1: in a band box and he's sick. 1046 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 2: It's good. Bet your boy has Trade Turner plus five 1047 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 2: thousand right now. Everyone, I wish they would have read 1048 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:01,239 Speaker 2: my My Pitcher List Awards a preview beginning of the season. 1049 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 2: I had Trade Turner on there, plus five thousand for 1050 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,439 Speaker 2: MVP and Brandon Woodriff plus twenty five hundred for Cy Young. 1051 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,879 Speaker 2: Those guys are both around plus four hundred right now, 1052 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,360 Speaker 2: two of the favorites in their respective awards. Follow me 1053 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 2: on Twitter. I give great advice. 1054 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:17,400 Speaker 1: It is imperative that the Mets win this series. 1055 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 2: At least we have to win on Friday Night. The 1056 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,839 Speaker 2: Mets Marcus Strowman has to go out there and put 1057 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 2: this team in a spot to win. And the Mets 1058 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 2: just have to hit three hund runs off Kyle Gibson. 1059 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 2: We have to. We always hit when we go to Philadelphia, always, always, always, 1060 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 2: And Kyle Gibson is such a good ground ball pitcher. 1061 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 2: He's the perfect trade candidate to go to Philadelphia. Of course, 1062 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:38,439 Speaker 2: he does give us some fly balls. No one gives 1063 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 2: up no fly balls. He's very good. He only give 1064 00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 2: us like thirty percent. That's way low in the league average. 1065 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,880 Speaker 2: But we's gotta find those cheap ass bullshit seats in 1066 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,839 Speaker 2: this fucking band box and get it over the wall 1067 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,239 Speaker 2: like we did Cincinnati. Will this team to a couple 1068 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:50,240 Speaker 2: wins with our bats. 1069 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,880 Speaker 1: This team's gotta wake up. This is a huge series 1070 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,279 Speaker 1: for the outlook of this team. This is a huge 1071 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,000 Speaker 1: series for the season. It's a huge series for the future. 1072 00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:59,799 Speaker 1: I think I think this series will tell a lot 1073 00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:01,400 Speaker 1: of this team going forward. 1074 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,239 Speaker 2: At least this season. I don't think that the rest 1075 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:04,799 Speaker 2: of the season is going to tell much about the future, 1076 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:06,800 Speaker 2: because we do have to remember the Mets are playing 1077 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 2: without Jacob de Gram, Noahs Sindergard, and Francisco Lindor arguably 1078 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:15,400 Speaker 2: not arguably no unquestionably three of the five best players 1079 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,919 Speaker 2: on this team talent and skill wise through the number 1080 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,280 Speaker 2: one and two, and then Noahs Sinderguard, who's a perennial 1081 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,839 Speaker 2: All Star when he is healthy. So this rough stretch 1082 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,400 Speaker 2: shouldn't really be unexpected, and we have hinted at it, 1083 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 2: and we said, like, this is gonna be difficult, and 1084 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 2: we've been doing the replacements all year and we've been 1085 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,839 Speaker 2: finding away losing your two best players hurts like hell, 1086 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 2: and it's really killing this team right now. 1087 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,719 Speaker 1: Killing this team. Huge series we're gonna be watching very 1088 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,719 Speaker 1: closely and hopefully we get some w's and hopefully we're 1089 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,759 Speaker 1: feeling excited about this team. One thing we are excited about, though, 1090 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:45,920 Speaker 1: m was our a little Brooklyn experience. Let's just give 1091 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 1: you guys a little insight here because this was James's 1092 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 1: first ever time being able to get on the field. 1093 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 1: I believe as like a media personnel interview players, got 1094 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,960 Speaker 1: to interact with some guys on the field, coaches, all 1095 00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,799 Speaker 1: this kind of stuff. I'd love to get your tike, 1096 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,400 Speaker 1: because I've obviously done this for the last few spring trainings, 1097 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:03,880 Speaker 1: and the first time I ever did it, I was 1098 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,840 Speaker 1: blown away. It was sick. It's unbelievable. I'm interested to 1099 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:07,600 Speaker 1: see how you feel. 1100 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,719 Speaker 2: I was like in awe like for the first hour 1101 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,320 Speaker 2: we were there today and just like to pull the 1102 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 2: curtain back for the listeners at home. We made a 1103 00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 2: connection with the Cyclones general manager a last month. We 1104 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:17,919 Speaker 2: went to the game, we posted a bunch of stuff 1105 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,000 Speaker 2: on social had a great time. And general manager of 1106 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,240 Speaker 2: a minor league team isn't like anything with player movement, 1107 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,400 Speaker 2: because of course the major league general manager handlers the 1108 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 2: player movement of the minor league teams, so he's really 1109 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,560 Speaker 2: just like a guy who does things and promotions. So 1110 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,720 Speaker 2: I used him to get in contact with the Cyclones 1111 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,279 Speaker 2: VP of Communications. I literally harassed him for like a month, 1112 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,879 Speaker 2: just sending him emails and emails and emails, constantly trying 1113 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:38,799 Speaker 2: to get this happen, he answered me at the clear 1114 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:40,880 Speaker 2: blue sky and a Saturday afternoon, like a week and 1115 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 2: a half ago. I was shocked. I sent it to 1116 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,520 Speaker 2: Mark because I couldn't believe he finally got back to me. 1117 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,440 Speaker 2: Set this up like really by happenstance this week rope up. 1118 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,399 Speaker 2: Some questions were really praying we were going to get 1119 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,520 Speaker 2: to interview the top guys like Alvarez, Emuricio and Palmer 1120 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,200 Speaker 2: and Jtgin and really all came through and it was 1121 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,319 Speaker 2: just so I don't know, I felt so good like 1122 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,319 Speaker 2: being there and having this happen and work out like 1123 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,799 Speaker 2: it was so smooth, shockingly so just being able to 1124 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,480 Speaker 2: like rub shoulders with two of the best prospects in baseball. 1125 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,240 Speaker 2: It was such an amazing experience. My heart was racing 1126 00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,200 Speaker 2: when we were talking to Francisco Alvarez racing. 1127 00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,719 Speaker 1: Well, for those of you guys don't know, so, like 1128 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 1: James said, we had the four guys on our list, 1129 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,360 Speaker 1: so we don't really get to decide who he talked to. 1130 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,279 Speaker 1: It's pretty much who the guy brings us. And I 1131 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,040 Speaker 1: know this is weird to say because they're like younger 1132 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:24,960 Speaker 1: than us or like twenty year old kids, so like 1133 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:26,359 Speaker 1: for us not to go up to them and be like, hey, 1134 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,479 Speaker 1: can I talk to you? Still a little weird, still 1135 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,399 Speaker 1: not completely comfortable with that, even myself. So the guy 1136 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,280 Speaker 1: brings us the players. He's like, I'll get you the guys. 1137 00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,600 Speaker 1: I'll let you know when they're ready taking VP whatever. 1138 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,279 Speaker 1: We're seeing Ronnie sit down, we're thinking like, ah, maybe not. 1139 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:39,440 Speaker 1: He was a little quiet. 1140 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,439 Speaker 2: He was kind of just to himself, off to the side, 1141 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 2: didn't really seem completely into it. The guy talked to 1142 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,640 Speaker 2: him and he just kind of didn't give a huge answer. 1143 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:47,880 Speaker 2: Not that he should be like, oh my god, that 1144 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,400 Speaker 2: that's the podcast, but he just didn't seem like he 1145 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,839 Speaker 2: really cared. And that's fine. I'm not asking for him 1146 00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:55,560 Speaker 2: to care. It's not that big of a deal. No, 1147 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,200 Speaker 2: But then he brought us Jalen Palmer, Yeah, which was nice. 1148 00:47:58,280 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 1: He was our first guy that we talked to, and 1149 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:03,280 Speaker 1: he'll probably the first episode that we dropped with an interview. 1150 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,680 Speaker 1: And Jalen, I know, kind of sort of follows me 1151 00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,040 Speaker 1: on Twitter. We shared the same agent for a bit, 1152 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,319 Speaker 1: so there'd been a little bit of a relationship there 1153 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,880 Speaker 1: of sorts. So it was good and it was a 1154 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,440 Speaker 1: great way for James to get comfortable too, because that 1155 00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,960 Speaker 1: was your first time ever interviewing a player, and as 1156 00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,640 Speaker 1: you said, after that interview, you felt super, super comfortable. 1157 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,840 Speaker 2: One hundred percent. I'll admit I was a little bit shook. 1158 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 2: We were interviewing Jalen Palmer, and not that Jalen Palmer 1159 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,160 Speaker 2: is this like grand star or anything, but this is 1160 00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,840 Speaker 2: just the first time I'd ever been in that environment, 1161 00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,160 Speaker 2: like with a player, like asking questions, like trying to 1162 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,640 Speaker 2: put the journalism hat on, like get something out of them. 1163 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,919 Speaker 2: It's a weird experience. I'm very happy that he was first, 1164 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,879 Speaker 2: specially because he was our only interview that we did 1165 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,960 Speaker 2: without a translator, which presented a new and unique set 1166 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:48,719 Speaker 2: of challenges, which was still fun. Yeah. 1167 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,839 Speaker 1: Shout out to our boy Ernie Subtape. We've talked about 1168 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,040 Speaker 1: him on the podcast before. The biggest Jonathan VR fan. 1169 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 1: Make sure you guys throw him a follow. He was 1170 00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,040 Speaker 1: our translator for all these interviews that you're gonna be 1171 00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,719 Speaker 1: hearing at sub Tape Underscore. If you can do anything 1172 00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,720 Speaker 1: to help us out besides you know, watching and listening 1173 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,839 Speaker 1: to the podcast, drop him a follow. Really deserves it. 1174 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:07,960 Speaker 1: He's gonna be huge for us in these interviews coming 1175 00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,320 Speaker 1: up here, that you guys are gonna listen to, super 1176 00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,279 Speaker 1: exciting stuff, all really good interviews, Jalen. Of course gonna 1177 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,400 Speaker 1: be all English, so I'll probably be like the easiest 1178 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,560 Speaker 1: to follow. Yeah, but we got some great answers out 1179 00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,439 Speaker 1: of Ronnie Mauricio, who we were told was a little, 1180 00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to say stiff, but a little hesitant 1181 00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:22,240 Speaker 1: at times, a little shy. 1182 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,520 Speaker 2: How cam shy, Yeah, especially talking to two guys who 1183 00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,359 Speaker 2: speaking them in a different language. You know, it's hard 1184 00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,120 Speaker 2: to communicate like that. And the Cyclones people told us 1185 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,280 Speaker 2: that these guys, especially Ronnie and Francisco, they get interviewed 1186 00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:38,879 Speaker 2: all the time. There's journalists rapport, there's bloggers, podcasters, beat 1187 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,239 Speaker 2: writers knocking on their door every single day to talk 1188 00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:45,160 Speaker 2: to these guys. So I understand their uh hesitancy to 1189 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:46,920 Speaker 2: just do it again, you know, because it seems like 1190 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,719 Speaker 2: everyone probably asked them the same five questions. But I 1191 00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:51,560 Speaker 2: don't think we did that. And you guys are really 1192 00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,319 Speaker 2: gonna hear in the interviews some real interesting and kind 1193 00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,680 Speaker 2: of funny and it's a little bit nuanced questions that 1194 00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,319 Speaker 2: we asked these guys I'm really able to pull back 1195 00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,040 Speaker 2: the curtain and hope for everyone to kind of build 1196 00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,000 Speaker 2: up relationship with two guys who seem like they're going 1197 00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,000 Speaker 2: to be with this organization for a very long. 1198 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:06,839 Speaker 1: Time before we get going towards the end here. Which 1199 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:08,480 Speaker 1: one was your favorite interview? What do you guys said? 1200 00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:09,000 Speaker 1: What do you think? 1201 00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,279 Speaker 2: Oh? It was absolutely Francisco. He's electric. He is so 1202 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,160 Speaker 2: much fun. All the Mets fans, I feel like love 1203 00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,680 Speaker 2: him already because he's so good. But he is got 1204 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,880 Speaker 2: so good, He's different, so good. This dude's personality is 1205 00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,319 Speaker 2: a one, top notch like he is the type of 1206 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,640 Speaker 2: guy you wanted to build your entire organization around. He 1207 00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,200 Speaker 2: is hysterical man, and he's so smart. 1208 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,080 Speaker 1: We thought we weren't gonna get him too. He was 1209 00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,000 Speaker 1: our last guy that we got. It was right before 1210 00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,160 Speaker 1: the game and the guy told us it's probably not 1211 00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:33,680 Speaker 1: gonna happen. 1212 00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:35,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, he thought we were gonna get Jtgin We got 1213 00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,359 Speaker 2: Francisco Alvrez and says, sorry, JT, We'll be out there 1214 00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,719 Speaker 2: at some point, grab you again at some point, make 1215 00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:42,920 Speaker 2: another trip to Brooklyn. But no doubt he from the 1216 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,640 Speaker 2: get go was talking it up. I was testing the 1217 00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,000 Speaker 2: microphones out. He came by, Hello, Hello, like he was 1218 00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:49,920 Speaker 2: he was doing his thing. He was super comfortable in 1219 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:53,080 Speaker 2: front of the camera, super comfortable, rocking shades, rocking shades, 1220 00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,560 Speaker 2: popping out the chest hair, with the chains and everything. 1221 00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:57,440 Speaker 1: He's a really cool guy. I think you guys are 1222 00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,160 Speaker 1: gonna really enjoy these interviews. Alvarez is my favorite one too, 1223 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,120 Speaker 1: but the Ronnie and Jayleen Palmer ones are really good too. 1224 00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,320 Speaker 1: So make sure that you're following the Twitter, the Instagram, 1225 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,000 Speaker 1: the YouTube channel because you'll get videos of these interviews. 1226 00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:09,640 Speaker 1: You'll get to see these guys talking. 1227 00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:11,759 Speaker 2: If you ever subscribe to the YouTube channel, I think 1228 00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:13,439 Speaker 2: the interviews are gonna be worth it. Those are gonna 1229 00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,760 Speaker 2: be coming in the next few weeks during the midweek 1230 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,719 Speaker 2: episodes instead of the farm reports. Of course, you'll be 1231 00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,520 Speaker 2: able to listen to the audio version as well if 1232 00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:22,640 Speaker 2: YouTube's not your thing, but again, I really do think 1233 00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,400 Speaker 2: the video version will be the best way to watch 1234 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,879 Speaker 2: those kinds of episodes. And before we start the sign 1235 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,840 Speaker 2: off here, I want to shout out the Brooklyn Cyclones 1236 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,600 Speaker 2: for being very accommodating to us, giving us media passes. 1237 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,160 Speaker 2: Got to hang out on the field for hours. We 1238 00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,120 Speaker 2: watch BP live, which was such an amazing experience. Listening 1239 00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,359 Speaker 2: to Francisco Alvarez and running Risio hit Baseball's was jaw 1240 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,800 Speaker 2: dropping on inspiring. It just sounded different off their bad. 1241 00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:45,520 Speaker 1: Well, I've told you like and I don't think you 1242 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,080 Speaker 1: can really understand until you actually experience it. I told 1243 00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,520 Speaker 1: you about my list of guys that take BP differently, 1244 00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:52,120 Speaker 1: and you can see it. 1245 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:56,200 Speaker 2: It's so obvious. It's instant. You're like, that ball's hit different. Yeah, 1246 00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:57,880 Speaker 2: that guy is different. It's a little bit different when 1247 00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:01,280 Speaker 2: Francisco Alveras is hitting ropes to the left field gap 1248 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,320 Speaker 2: and no glove Joe or Joey. 1249 00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,160 Speaker 1: No Joey, no gloves Joe swoozy. 1250 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:08,160 Speaker 2: He had a great game today and we were there, 1251 00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,840 Speaker 2: hit a hit triple to Urbis made diving play in 1252 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,360 Speaker 2: right field seems like a fine little single a player, 1253 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,080 Speaker 2: but the ball just sounds very different coming off his 1254 00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:17,759 Speaker 2: bat than Francisco Hell for us. 1255 00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it was. It was an incredible experience. Super 1256 00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,719 Speaker 1: thankful to the Brooklyn Cyclones. Super excited to show you 1257 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,200 Speaker 1: guys that content. As for episode number thirty of the 1258 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,600 Speaker 1: Mets Up Podcast, that's Whe're gonna start to sign off. 1259 00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,080 Speaker 1: Follow James on Twitter at Jeter had No Range, me 1260 00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:34,000 Speaker 1: at Draftneckmark. Follow us on Twitter, Instagram mets Up. Follow 1261 00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,040 Speaker 1: us on the YouTube channel mets Up Podcast if you're 1262 00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:39,160 Speaker 1: interested in the video content. As always, Philly series is 1263 00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,120 Speaker 1: gonna be probably the most important series of the season. 1264 00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:45,200 Speaker 1: Hopefully come out of it on top. It'll be really interesting. 1265 00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,160 Speaker 1: Episode number thirty nine next next or Monday, I guess 1266 00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,600 Speaker 1: of the Mets Up Podcast will be interesting. 1267 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:52,600 Speaker 2: If there's no doubt. Yeah, you can definitely go two 1268 00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:53,200 Speaker 2: different ways. 1269 00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,240 Speaker 1: You're either gonna get me crying and screaming and laying 1270 00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,319 Speaker 1: in traffic, as James has said, or we're gonna be 1271 00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,400 Speaker 1: shouting from the rooftop, so we're gonna be hard ea er. 1272 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,879 Speaker 1: Maybe there's not a lot of excitement. Who knows. As 1273 00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:04,360 Speaker 1: long as the metsater in first place at the end 1274 00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,719 Speaker 1: of the series, I'm feeling good. Thank you guys so 1275 00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:08,560 Speaker 1: much for listening, Thank you so much for watching. We'll 1276 00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,440 Speaker 1: catch you on the next episode of the Mess Up Podcast. 1277 00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,000 Speaker 1: Peace out, See you guys next time.