WEBVTT - The Cannot Play With Em Game with Vernon Davis | Week 8, 2008: Seahawks vs. 49ers 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:01.960 How did Patrick Willis eat his steak? 0:00:02.360 --> 0:00:05.520 He will eat his steak with his hands, fingers. 0:00:04.680 --> 0:00:09.600 That's what I'm I literally tell everyone, I don't want 0:00:09.640 --> 0:00:13.160 my middle linebacker eating a steak with a working knife. 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:16.280 You better pick that thing up with his hand. Absolutely, 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:19.080 get in there. I'm telling you, guys, you can't teach this. 0:00:19.680 --> 0:00:24.439 The palm of his hand with his plate. Welcome to 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:27.800 Games with Names. I'm Julian Edelman. They're Jack and Kyler, 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:31.400 and we're on a mission to find the greatest. 0:00:30.960 --> 0:00:32.960 Game of all time. 0:00:33.680 --> 0:00:38.120 On today's episode, we are covering the infamous two thousand 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:42.080 and eight week a game between the Seattle Seahawks and 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:45.839 the San Francisco forty nine Ers with Super Bowl champion 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:51.080 Maryland great author, actor creative Guy Burnon Davis, and we 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:55.040 get into talking how this game changed the outlook on football, 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:56.120 on his life. 0:00:56.000 --> 0:00:58.120 And my young mind. I'm thinking, like this guy doing 0:00:58.360 --> 0:01:01.720 this guy think he is? I look back, that's the 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:02.960 situation I needed that. 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:06.800 How he became Hollywood actor? How was it acting with 0:01:06.840 --> 0:01:10.520 Morgan Freeman man I was so nervous being there for 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:12.360 Peyton Manning's last game. 0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:14.880 I've never seen anything like it. I've played with some 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:18.000 awesome quarterbacks. Yeah, but he was just he was just different. 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:18.160 Man. 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:20.200 And then we get into some of the great coaching 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:21.400 rants Stanny Green. 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:24.240 Oh, that was a good one. They are we thought 0:01:24.240 --> 0:01:24.679 they were. 0:01:27.720 --> 0:01:30.720 So you gotta stick around to the very end. Let's 0:01:30.720 --> 0:01:35.720 go Games with Names is a production of iHeartRadio. 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:39.920 October twenty eight, two thousand and eight. 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:45.560 The Stick Candlestick, San Francisco, California. 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:48.880 Can I play with them? Can I win with them? 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:53.320 Can I coach with him? Can't do it? This is 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:55.240 can I Play with them? 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:55.680 Games? 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:09.320 Man? I was in Boston for thirteen years. I'd come 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:12.320 out here in the off seasons. My daughter was out here, 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:15.440 so this is perfect for you then kind of yeah, I. 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:17.320 Mean you got to see a daughter. 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:20.520 Well, yeah, she's here every Monday Tuesday win So like, 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:23.160 now that's great, but that's awesome, you know, it's. 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:25.359 Just it's it's it's awesome that you have a Yeah. 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:27.840 I didn't know you had a kid either, So that's cool. Yeah, 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:28.360 that's cool. 0:02:28.400 --> 0:02:30.839 It's been you know, it's a lot, but it's a lot, 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:34.280 but it's like a daughter, man, I know, I know. 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:39.240 It's so fun though, Yeah, and it's it's honestly The 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:44.079 most happy or the most excitement I get is when 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:47.760 I see like something my daughter's worked on, whether it's 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:53.760 in class, school presentation or on the sport field. And 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:57.880 seeing when she's put some work into that and her 0:02:57.919 --> 0:03:01.600 progression and her real life, her progression through her hard 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:05.760 work like that right there gets me fucking toasty. 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:06.600 That's awesome. 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:11.400 Yeah, so let's start this thing up. Welcome to Games 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:15.840 with Names. Today, we are talking week eight of the 0:03:15.960 --> 0:03:21.320 two thousand and eight season Seahawks versus the forty nine 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:27.400 Ers legendary can't Win with Him game with nobody other 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:31.920 than Vernon Davis. Welcome to Games the Names, bro. I 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:35.480 appreciate thank you for being in the nuthouse. In one sentence, 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:37.800 why did you pick this game? 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:41.600 Because I like the game? Because I love the game? 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:45.800 You love the game A specific game, Yeah, this specific game. 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:51.400 I love this game. Why. Oh, it's just something, it's exciting. 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:58.080 It's it's just like you think about this game, it 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:03.200 reminds me of a lot of the competitions that I had. 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:05.920 The competition that I had against the Seahawks. 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:09.000 Yeah, you know what I mean. It was like, man, 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:15.800 they were that team that we just couldn't stop yeah, 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:18.800 I mean those guys were I mean they had everybody 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:24.000 Camp Chancellor, Russell Wilson, me named, they had all the players, man, 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:25.719 I mean just like us, we had players too, but 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:27.320 those guys were hard to stop. 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:31.560 Yeah, this is a fun this like generation of the 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:36.040 forty nine ers is kind of that foundational second jump 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:38.960 from what I'm wearing the ninety five Niners, because there 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:42.440 was a long span after that where you know, ten 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:45.840 years they're bouncing from quarterback to quarterback, and you did 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:49.880 that here in this game. But this specific team and 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:52.359 what you're a part of I was a fan of 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:57.640 as a kid, and like these these grindy type years 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:02.559 were a necessity to get to where you guys eventually got. 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:04.760 When you guys were you were playing in super Bowls 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:08.440 and stuff. Again, so like this is a fun game, 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:11.760 and it's a real cool game that I I think 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:15.000 you picked because it's probably a transformational game for you 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:19.800 mentality wise. After you know, Coach Singletary you know, goes out, 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:23.560 calls you out in front of everyone, and like after 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:27.159 this year you had like your like springboard your career. 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:32.480 Was this that turning point in your career talking about 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:33.680 just being weak, just the week. 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:35.680 Ye, the week of that game, this is the this 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:38.240 is after this game is when he kicked you out. 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:41.600 Yeah, I don't know, man, it was just I don't 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:43.720 say I would say that it was a Yeah, I'd 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:46.640 say it was a turning point in my career because 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:50.760 if you think of a young man coming into this league, 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:52.560 I mean you think, you know, you know all the answers, 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:57.960 but you don't until you your career start starts, right, because, uh, 0:05:58.080 --> 0:05:59.680 this game, I mean there's a lot that goes with it. 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:03.320 You know, on a university, you're in a space where 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:05.960 anything can happen, and the biggest thing you need to 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:08.359 do is just work on your mental health because mental 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:11.640 mental health is everything. And and for me, I was struggling, 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:15.800 struggling mentally, and I needed something to just put me 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:19.040 back on track. And I believe the incident with Coach 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:24.240 Singletary was the moment where I realized that, Hey, if 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:25.960 I'm going to be a leader, it has to start now. 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:30.599 Wow, is this the greatest game of all time? I 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:34.400 don't know, that's a good question, we asked our guests. 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:39.480 Yeah, the greatest game of all time. 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:44.479 What's life looking like these days? Uh? For me? 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:47.640 You know, it's just I just focused on the creativity, 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:53.599 from producing films to acting music. I recently bought a farm, 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:58.040 focused on my horses, riding horse, trying to get better. 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:01.880 But man's that's the key. I think that's the key 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:03.880 of life. Just doing the things that you love and 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:04.960 the things that make you happy. 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:07.760 Tell us about this farm. What is this farm? We 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:11.000 were talking about it before the show is what's this farm? 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:14.440 Thing? You got going? Yeah? This farm is? Uh, you know, 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:15.480 I this farm. 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:20.640 I credit my brother for just the dreams I had 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:21.640 before I bought this farm. 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:23.160 Like my brother, I take you back. 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:25.720 My brother wanted to create this space where he wanted 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:29.360 animals walking around the house and walking outside. But he 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:33.400 didn't have enough acres for that, but he still wanted it. 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:34.040 And before he. 0:07:33.960 --> 0:07:36.720 Passed away, well after he passed away, I started having 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:39.000 dreams and one dream was that I had a farm, 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:41.240 and I woke up. I remember waking up that morning 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:45.080 getting on Zilo looking for a farm, and I called this. 0:07:45.320 --> 0:07:50.080 A friend of mine has his company props release and 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:53.440 moved for free, and I thought about them. I reached 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:54.960 out to her, I said, hey, can you can you 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:57.240 can you find me a farm? 0:07:58.120 --> 0:07:58.360 Right? 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:01.120 She couldn't find anything. So then a friend of mine 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:03.600 called me later, like two weeks after that and say, hey, 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:05.080 I got I found this farm. You want to go 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:07.840 half on it? I said, no, not really, I'm not 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:10.360 really interested right now. I was looking, but I'm good now. 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:11.560 But I actually got. 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:12.040 I called. 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:15.520 I called Moved for Free and props Move for Free, 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:18.000 the company that my friend has. I said, hey, can 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:20.080 you show me this farm? And they took me on 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:21.480 the farm and I fell in love. I said I 0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:23.840 wanted pay cash for it, bought it right then, and 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:24.400 there got. 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:26.880 A farm, got a farm, and now you're a farm owner. 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:31.960 Now I'm a farmer, farmer. Let's go, let's go. 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:33.480 What's your favorite farm animal? 0:08:33.920 --> 0:08:36.400 My favorite farm animal? I would probably have to go with, 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:39.520 uh man. I would like to say the goat or 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:42.719 the chickens, but uh or maybe the turtle, but I 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:43.160 can't say that. 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:44.800 I'm gonna have to go with Big Joe. I just 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:49.880 bought Big Joe, big horse, big, big talking oh man. 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:52.280 He's a Belgian. Belgian. Yeah, he's a Belgian. 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:55.000 I think I would have to go with the horse too. 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:58.920 My daughter loves horses, and you know, we went out 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:02.200 to Hawaiian. My agent set us up with this awesome 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:04.360 place where you get to ride the horses on the beach, 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:07.319 and uh, you really do get a. 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:10.120 Connection with that animal when you're on it. You know 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:10.520 what I mean? 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:13.720 You got this big stud thing that you're on because 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:14.920 I was on a big ass horse. 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:17.240 I don't know what is it. I'm a horse guy. 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:19.040 I got all this thing. 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:21.000 I was like, I didn't want to show a no 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:23.560 feury thing, but I was sitting there. I just got 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:26.840 out of them. I was like, yeah, I feel them. 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:30.079 I feel that's a connection. It's a good connection. It's 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:31.320 a connection, right man. 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:35.560 So you you grew up in dumb you grew up 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:37.720 in d C. I grew up in Washington, d C. 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:41.800 You went to Dunbar, Josh Cribs my Kent State alone 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:43.240 went to That's right? 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:45.680 Well man, how was that? What was in that water? 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:47.640 Because a lot of we had a lot of good, 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:49.680 really good football players come. 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:52.680 Out of there. Yeah, how was Josh too? In high school? 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:55.720 Kent State? Huh out of Dunbar, Kent State, out of Dumbar. 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:57.400 I felt like in that area, we had a lot 0:09:57.440 --> 0:09:59.680 of Dunbar guys that went to Kent State yeah. 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:00.680 Yeah. 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:04.480 Daryl Dowry, Darryl Dowry, Yeah yeah, I played with him 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:04.760 as well. 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:08.440 Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah man, that's there was a 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:10.240 lot of DC cats school. 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:12.640 I actually took a visit there myself, did you unofficial, 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:16.480 but I took a visit to Kent came bro I know, man, 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:19.480 I don't. I just it was something about Maryland, you 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:22.000 know what I mean? You know, I just wanted to 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:23.559 stay close to home, and it's a. 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:24.720 Way banners. 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:28.600 Football and academics too. 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:34.280 Maryland's pretty damn nice. Yeah, it was pretty nice. Now 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:35.959 they are now that they're Big ten? 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:38.920 Yeah, easy, man, what's up with that? How do you 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:42.280 feel about that? The whole they're in the Big ten now? 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:44.360 That's kind of weird, isn't it. Yeah, it is weird, 0:10:44.400 --> 0:10:46.959 but I think it's good. I'm an a CC guy, Yeah, 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:49.360 but it is. It is kind of weird that they're 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:51.600 Big ten now. But hey, look, I appreciate anything that's 0:10:51.600 --> 0:10:54.319 gonna help the team win. I'm all about it. As 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:57.440 well as at a father school. 0:10:58.160 --> 0:11:00.760 They've done that. I mean, the school's beautiful and. 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:02.800 You're probably going to get better recruits because you're in 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:03.880 the Big ten, right. 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:07.880 The facilities, and you know, just every money there comes 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:11.240 down to money, the bottom line, right right. 0:11:12.400 --> 0:11:15.720 What was Cribs like in high school? Cribs was, uh, 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:18.319 he's bad. He was very he was quiet. Quiet, Yeah, 0:11:18.320 --> 0:11:20.400 he say he was a little quiet. He said young. 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:24.760 Hebserved a young what's up? Yeah? Young? What's you come on? Joe? 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:30.320 He always I remember him always saying, hey, yea so 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:33.079 funny man, Yeah, what's up? Yah? Oh man? What year 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:36.000 were you? He was there? I was going, he was there. 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:38.720 I got there two years after he left. 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:40.520 But he was a legend there and he was in 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:44.520 Cleveland and when we were when Cleveland was right next to Kent, 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:46.959 so he would come back to school every once in 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:48.800 a while and stuff, and he was like a fucking 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:51.640 god out there. He was onside of like buildings and 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:53.800 shipped in Cleveland. He was he was the man. 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:55.360 Man. That's crazy. 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:58.360 Like, you know, I was following because we you know, 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:00.200 I was like the second quarterback after. 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:01.319 Him when he left. 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:04.079 And then you know, there was always comparisons. You know, 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:06.880 run I was running quarterback and Shosh Cribbs was fucking 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:09.160 Josh Cribs doing what he was doing in the league. 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:11.000 So you know, I always loved the cribs. 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:14.680 Yeah, cribs, cribs to the crib, cribs to the crib 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:16.079 ribs to the crib. 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:19.120 Faster than what you think. Oh yeah, way faster than you. 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:20.960 Was like that in high school. Man, he was like 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:21.880 that out in high school. 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:22.320 He was. 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:25.320 Now, you must have been a beast in high school 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:30.800 because you were an athletic specimen. And I remember as 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:32.679 because you, you know, I was a Niners fan when 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:36.360 they drafted you. You know, you had a huge spike 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:38.800 in your because of your combine numbers. You would you 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:42.440 run four to three, jumped out the roof, you were 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:44.320 two fifty five or something. 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:45.840 You were just a freaking freak. 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:48.960 And then your first few years, you know, you were 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:51.800 kind of feeling it out, and then you became like 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:56.240 you became like pretty much a wide receiver like you 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:59.439 you would you'd be in but you were so athletic 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:02.679 and such a dominant force in the past game. I 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:06.559 remember Alex Smith widening you out. You'd be a tight 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:10.880 end on an island outside against corners, running go routes, 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:14.680 running by people Like were you like this in high 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:16.680 school or did you work for this or are you 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:19.800 just a specimen. What is your How did you train? 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:23.040 What the hell? What's going on? I said, how did 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:23.480 you train? 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:26.800 No? Man, I was I was always able to run. 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:30.240 That was that was my That was my bread and butter, 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:32.319 being able to run fast fast. 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:33.520 I've always been fast. 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:36.560 But what happened was when I got to college, I 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:38.439 was able to keep my speed. 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:40.400 Yeah, my speed never left. 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:42.760 It was like I got bigger, two hundred and fifty 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:45.040 pounds still running the four four four three. 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:48.040 It was the craziest thing. I mean it even it 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:49.520 even amazed me. I didn't. 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:52.360 I'm like wow, because I figured, you know, you get bigger, Yeah, 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:55.160 you loose loose speed. Yeah, but I was able to 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:57.760 keep my speed, and it was it was all. 0:13:58.000 --> 0:14:00.640 It was always a great asset. Yeah. 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:03.720 Man, I just remember you running by guys and you'd 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:07.280 have fifty to sixty yard touchdowns at least once every 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:10.720 two weeks. It was fucking gnarly. And you and Cap Hatter, 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:12.480 I mean you guys went to the Superowl. Guy was 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:13.280 won the Super Bowl? 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:17.280 What do you do? Now? Do you to keep staying 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:19.400 in shape? Now? I you know I don't live, I 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:20.720 don't lift heavyweight. I'll tell you that. 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:23.240 Yeah, I can't. I can't lift the heavyweight. My shoulders 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:26.320 a little, a little banged up. But I work out 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:30.720 five days a week. Yeah, no lightweight, you know. Still 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:34.160 I sprint every now and then. But I just just 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:40.160 maintain good working, just good working habits. Move to the way, yeah, movement, 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:45.040 just staying nice and uh nice and loose, stretching and yeah, massages. 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:47.280 I still get the massages twice a week. See, I 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:49.840 gotta get back in it. Oh you don't get massages anymore, 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:50.760 you know what? Oh? 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:51.840 Man, I know. 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:55.880 It's so stupid because you go from like a Kobe 0:14:55.960 --> 0:15:00.160 Beef like cow where you're massaged every two minutes, go 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:03.800 work out, you have perfect hydration, you eat like a 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:06.000 fucking king, You got the best gas. 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:06.560 You know what I mean? 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:10.200 Like that, everything's dietitioned to what you get, you the best. 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:13.320 And then when you retire, like you lose four of 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:15.400 those things, and that's a lot, you know what I mean. 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:17.440 You don't have the diet the same, You don't get 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:20.080 the bodywork, you know, running out, you don't do the stretch. 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:22.840 So I got to get back on it. Yeah. Yeah, 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:23.400 it's tough. 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:26.040 It's tough, especially when you you know, like like us 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:29.160 right now, we're not playing ball and so many other things. 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:32.720 That your bodies, like our bodies aren't are they're not 0:15:32.920 --> 0:15:33.760 our number one. 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:36.720 Source of income now. Yeah, yeah, you're right, you know 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:37.120 what I mean. 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:39.960 So it's not my When I was playing, everything was 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:43.040 predicated towards my recovery my body because that was my 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:45.640 money maker and that's what was providing for my family. 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:48.040 Now like it's not like now I. 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:51.040 Have fucking meetings I gotta do because I'm doing podcasts. 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:51.520 You know what I mean. 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:53.280 You got, you got other things that I used to 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:55.040 say no to me because I had to get my body 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:55.360 work in. 0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:56.760 Yeah, I know what you mean. 0:15:56.800 --> 0:16:00.720 I can feel that that that clock, just that alarm 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:02.920 goes off in my mind though whenever I'm just whenever 0:16:02.920 --> 0:16:04.880 I'm sitting back and I know I haven't been to 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:07.640 the gym, because I get moments where you know, I'm working, 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:10.400 I've been to the gym in four or five days. 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:12.480 Yeah, the alarm goes off, like, man, I gotta get 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:15.040 back in the gym, Gotta get back, gotta get back. Well, 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:16.880 let me jump in real quick. I've got a question 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:19.000 for you, Vernon before we move on from that combine. 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:21.720 It was a pretty kind of viral moment before viral 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:23.440 moments were really happening. When you ran that four to 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:24.280 three in the combine. 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:26.200 Can you talk a little bit what it was like 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:29.040 in Indianapolis and then what kind of opportunities happened or 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:31.320 things happened in between the draft and the combine. 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:35.960 So, yeah, going from going from well I left Arizona, 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:41.320 I was training in Arizona before the combine and Athlete's 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:45.760 performance is where it was between that time and going. 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:46.560 To the draft. 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:49.720 It was, Man, it was like I just kept hearing 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:52.360 that song by eminem you only get one shot, you 0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:55.280 have missed your chance to you know, opportunities come once 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:56.040 in the lifetime. 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:58.320 That song just kept going off inside my mind. 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:00.000 Then when I got to the combine, I started listen 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:03.280 into that song and I just I knew I was 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:05.440 only going to get one shot and if I didn't 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:09.360 capitalize on it, that was it. Because being at Maryland, 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:11.280 you know, I wasn't Yeah, I was up for the 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:15.119 MACKI every week and things of that nature, but they 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:18.240 didn't talk about me much. It was always Mercedes Lewis. 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:21.520 Mercedes Lewis, he was you know, he was the big shot. 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:24.760 And it came to the tight end position, and I 0:17:24.840 --> 0:17:27.520 knew that I had to go to this combine and 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:32.000 I had to outperform everyone. And I did. And in 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:37.400 between that time, after I had my performance and getting drafted, 0:17:38.160 --> 0:17:39.880 oh there was all there was. My agent was coming 0:17:39.920 --> 0:17:41.120 up to He's like, you got a shot. You got 0:17:41.119 --> 0:17:43.440 a chance to get drafted the top top ten, top ten, 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:46.240 it's always top ten. But I would go to these 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:49.480 meetings and I started meeting with these teams, you know, 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:51.199 you meet with the teams and things of that nature. 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:53.760 And I met with the Jets, and I knew they 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:55.280 had the fourth pick they wouldna get. They had the 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:56.800 fourth pick in the draft. I said, I'm about to 0:17:56.800 --> 0:17:59.199 be I'm about to be top four. I'm about to be. 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:01.960 I mean, we would sitting we sat there, we watched 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:05.080 film and they were talking about how they were going 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:06.560 to utilize me at the position. 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:12.280 I just knew they won't take me. They take Ferguson, 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:15.800 not a. I put my head in. You wanted to 0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:18.280 be in the big apple. You wanted to be in 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:19.800 the big Apple. I wanted to be in a big apple. 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:26.800 You make it here, you can make it anywhere. The Jets, 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:30.520 I mean the brickshaw Ferguson played a very He was 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:32.639 a really good football player for a very long time. 0:18:33.960 --> 0:18:37.000 So like they didn't miss miss On, like not getting 0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:39.320 because he was a corner center of that organization for 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:39.720 a while. 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:43.720 He was good even at UVA. He was very talented. 0:18:44.160 --> 0:18:48.960 You could have Vernon Davis Vernon. You imagine Broadway Vern 0:18:49.160 --> 0:18:52.159 freaking jets. Verne got a nice ring to it. 0:18:52.200 --> 0:18:53.879 You got Broadway Vern over here here. 0:18:54.000 --> 0:18:54.200 Man. 0:18:57.200 --> 0:18:57.600 I like that. 0:18:57.720 --> 0:19:01.320 Oh man, but you wouldn't have had those division rivals 0:19:01.359 --> 0:19:05.040 against the Seattle Seahawks, and you wouldn't. I'm in the 0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:07.760 same club getting that hit from Cam Chancellor. How about 0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:08.040 that hit? 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:13.040 Oh can you still feel it? Oh? You said, I 0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:17.280 just turned my head. I felt that explosion. Wait leads 0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:23.919 the boom legion of boom Man that you get hit? Yeah, 0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:29.080 he hits you. Physical, physical, it's smart. Yeah he was. Like. 0:19:29.320 --> 0:19:32.040 He reminds me a lot. Patrick Willis. 0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:34.840 I mean, like I mean when I think of Camp Chancellor, 0:19:34.880 --> 0:19:36.240 I think about Patrick Willis. 0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:39.720 Yeah, I mean those guys are just physical, physical, physical. 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:43.800 What about I remember when we played them in the 0:19:43.840 --> 0:19:47.879 Super Bowl, and I've only competed against him a few times. 0:19:48.400 --> 0:19:51.160 But I just remember him always being like a pretty respectable, 0:19:51.240 --> 0:19:53.760 like gentleman on the field, like he whipped your ass 0:19:53.760 --> 0:19:55.879 and he'd let you know, but he wouldn't talk about it. 0:19:55.960 --> 0:19:58.360 He's like he was like polite with it. He's like good, 0:19:58.520 --> 0:20:03.879 good rip, you know what I mean, Like, do you 0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:05.119 remember that about Camber? 0:20:05.240 --> 0:20:05.400 Yeah? 0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:07.359 Yeah, yeah, he was very polite. He was like it was. 0:20:07.600 --> 0:20:11.440 He never talked. He was very just like focused, locked in, focused, possessed. 0:20:11.760 --> 0:20:14.480 I mean, I can't only imagine how how much force 0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:18.320 was in between you and him, like because I remember 0:20:18.359 --> 0:20:21.040 hating him and if he felt like a stumped tree, 0:20:21.080 --> 0:20:23.160 like he didn't move, like I had to go get 0:20:23.200 --> 0:20:26.879 the force on him, and like you are. I just 0:20:27.680 --> 0:20:30.440 I would never want to be in between that he 0:20:30.560 --> 0:20:31.400 might get crushed. 0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:36.119 What about? What about? How about Patrick Willis? Patrick was? 0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:39.080 He was He's one of those type of guys. He 0:20:39.600 --> 0:20:41.919 talked if he needed to, but he was kind of 0:20:41.920 --> 0:20:43.240 like one of those guys. He was always locked in. 0:20:43.760 --> 0:20:46.199 He was on a mission. He was always want one. 0:20:46.359 --> 0:20:48.560 One thing I knew for sure is that when it 0:20:48.600 --> 0:20:51.120 came to game day and it's time to play, Patrick 0:20:51.119 --> 0:20:52.840 will Willis was one of those guys that was want 0:20:52.840 --> 0:20:53.200 to bring it. 0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:55.160 Yeah, you didn't have to worry about him. 0:20:55.200 --> 0:20:57.919 No, how did Patrick Willis eat his steak? 0:20:58.280 --> 0:21:01.479 He would eat his steak with his hands fingers. 0:21:01.560 --> 0:21:05.160 That's what I'm fucking I think I remember. I remember 0:21:05.200 --> 0:21:05.960 going into that. 0:21:06.040 --> 0:21:10.080 Hey, you see what I I literally tell everyone, I 0:21:10.080 --> 0:21:12.960 don't want my middle linebacker eating a fucking steak with 0:21:13.040 --> 0:21:14.000 a forking knife. 0:21:14.359 --> 0:21:17.199 You better pick that thing up with his hand. Absolutely, 0:21:17.240 --> 0:21:19.720 get in there. That was not even I'm. 0:21:19.520 --> 0:21:23.360 Telling you guys, you can't teach this ship. That's right, baby, 0:21:24.000 --> 0:21:27.320 that just justified me forever. I'm so excited. 0:21:27.840 --> 0:21:32.080 All right, let's about Patrick will. 0:21:35.200 --> 0:21:38.720 Oh my god, the palm of his hand was his plate. 0:21:41.680 --> 0:21:47.000 He didn't even barbecue, He ate a raw No wait, 0:21:47.000 --> 0:21:47.680 he went over here. 0:21:47.720 --> 0:21:51.879 Now we'll be right back after this quick break. Jamison 0:21:51.880 --> 0:21:55.200 would like to welcome you aboard this flight to Dublin 0:21:55.840 --> 0:22:00.359 and to invite you to join their unofficial call to 0:22:00.440 --> 0:22:05.800 bring pro football to Ireland. Stowaway foam fingers in the 0:22:05.840 --> 0:22:11.800 overhead compartments, and a bar kart stocked with Jamison's finest 0:22:11.800 --> 0:22:15.760 whiskey will be making its way down the aisle after takeoff. 0:22:16.080 --> 0:22:20.720 Because only Jamison would try to bring football to a 0:22:20.760 --> 0:22:25.160 whole new country. Join the Jamison Huddle at Jamison sports 0:22:25.720 --> 0:22:34.080 dot com. Let's go back to around October twenty eight, 0:22:34.160 --> 0:22:36.320 two thousand and eight, this segment where we'd like to 0:22:36.359 --> 0:22:38.800 talk about pop culture around. 0:22:38.520 --> 0:22:40.760 The game, and the number one movie was. 0:22:40.760 --> 0:22:45.560 High School Musical three Senior year this two thousand and eight. 0:22:45.640 --> 0:22:50.520 Huh, big year for Efron. Baby, I don't remember that. 0:22:51.359 --> 0:22:54.320 Did you watch those high school musicals? Yeah? I had 0:22:54.359 --> 0:22:57.440 my Badley. Yeah, my sister and my cousin, they used 0:22:57.440 --> 0:22:58.560 to watch all those musicals. 0:22:58.600 --> 0:23:02.600 Now I know, I gotta Oh my goodness, my kid 0:23:02.640 --> 0:23:05.880 doesn't like musicals that much. She's starting to get into 0:23:05.920 --> 0:23:11.840 a little number one song, Womanizer by Britney Spears. 0:23:12.520 --> 0:23:14.760 Do you get you listen to britt I like. 0:23:14.800 --> 0:23:17.959 Yeah, I used to listen to britt Yeah, pretty popular 0:23:18.119 --> 0:23:18.480 back then. 0:23:18.600 --> 0:23:20.919 I'm getting a lot of her too now because my 0:23:21.040 --> 0:23:24.359 daughter likes she's seven and like she likes Britney Spears. 0:23:24.480 --> 0:23:25.480 Like Britney Spears now. 0:23:25.440 --> 0:23:28.679 Yeah, because I you know, her mom used to probably 0:23:28.680 --> 0:23:29.840 listen to Brittany. 0:23:30.000 --> 0:23:32.320 You know my mom used to my mom, my sister 0:23:32.359 --> 0:23:35.000 will throw Britney all around her. So it's you know, 0:23:35.440 --> 0:23:37.760 it's these little kids. They like Brittany. 0:23:37.800 --> 0:23:38.920 Brittany got the staying power. 0:23:39.119 --> 0:23:44.480 She got staying power free, Britney, baby, is she is? 0:23:44.520 --> 0:23:46.080 She She's free? Yeah? Is she free? 0:23:46.280 --> 0:23:47.280 I'm just repping it still. 0:23:47.640 --> 0:23:50.639 I'm still still reping it though she just got married. 0:23:51.680 --> 0:23:53.040 That sounds really only look. 0:23:53.040 --> 0:23:57.159 Yeah, t I coming off back to back number ones. 0:23:57.600 --> 0:24:01.160 Whatever you like, Live your Life featuring Rihanna. 0:24:01.600 --> 0:24:02.000 That was some. 0:24:02.160 --> 0:24:04.840 This was like, this was my college right here. That 0:24:05.240 --> 0:24:07.720 was college. I was on a heater, Bro, he was 0:24:07.760 --> 0:24:08.240 on a heater. 0:24:08.440 --> 0:24:10.119 T I versus t I P was the year before 0:24:10.160 --> 0:24:12.960 this paper trail was this year. Man, it was he 0:24:12.960 --> 0:24:15.800 couldn't miss. This is when Rihanna was. She was just 0:24:16.640 --> 0:24:18.919 she's just coming around. She was still like doing feature. 0:24:19.000 --> 0:24:19.480 Yes she was. 0:24:19.520 --> 0:24:21.760 She was still a nature and she won. She was like, 0:24:22.119 --> 0:24:24.679 who's this new chick that's like about to blow up? 0:24:24.760 --> 0:24:25.520 She won a billionaire? 0:24:25.600 --> 0:24:27.320 Yet she won. 0:24:27.520 --> 0:24:31.879 She's a billionaire with that fenty the makeup makeup crazy. 0:24:31.520 --> 0:24:35.000 Bro, And that's what that's what the Kardashians. They're in 0:24:35.040 --> 0:24:36.639 that makeup stuff too, that they're smart. 0:24:36.920 --> 0:24:39.120 I need to start some some makeup lines or something, Bro, 0:24:39.680 --> 0:24:40.399 I need to get. 0:24:40.240 --> 0:24:41.719 A makeup. 0:24:42.920 --> 0:24:45.640 Madonna and a Rod were dating, or there were rumors 0:24:45.840 --> 0:24:50.640 sweeping the nation. Remember this when they're throwing in Madonna pictures? 0:24:51.400 --> 0:24:51.679 You know this. 0:24:51.800 --> 0:24:53.280 I don't know why we're bringing this up. This is 0:24:53.320 --> 0:24:56.280 a you know, this is a co worker of mine 0:24:56.320 --> 0:24:59.359 at Fox right who I got to talk to the 0:24:59.400 --> 0:25:00.600 producers on this one. 0:25:02.800 --> 0:25:05.200 It's just so we can have a point that fans 0:25:05.200 --> 0:25:07.320 were taunting them, so we can ask the question, what 0:25:07.359 --> 0:25:09.120 was the wildest thing a fan ever said to you? 0:25:09.600 --> 0:25:09.719 Oh? 0:25:09.760 --> 0:25:14.920 It was the wildest thing, the wildest, wildest. 0:25:15.240 --> 0:25:22.320 Can I say anything? Can you my wife? Can you 0:25:22.400 --> 0:25:31.600 asked my wife? Wow? I don't get involved with that 0:25:31.640 --> 0:25:33.919 kind of stuff. What city I don't get involved with? 0:25:34.400 --> 0:25:39.480 Was this in San fran fran was hometown? Yeah? That 0:25:39.600 --> 0:25:40.560 was crazy? Wow? 0:25:40.880 --> 0:25:44.320 I remember that. I vividly remember that. That's something that 0:25:44.359 --> 0:25:47.480 will never leave my memory. 0:25:49.960 --> 0:25:52.199 Oh is this like the crowd and it's coming out 0:25:52.240 --> 0:25:52.560 of a crowd. 0:25:52.720 --> 0:25:54.400 Was like a one on one kind of conversation. 0:25:55.680 --> 0:25:59.040 We just we just I was we were going, you know, 0:25:59.400 --> 0:26:01.479 there was a uh it was training camp and then 0:26:01.560 --> 0:26:03.760 we have the fans coming to camping. 0:26:04.160 --> 0:26:08.119 You know, I'm coming in, I'm walking down signing autographs. 0:26:09.800 --> 0:26:12.480 Can you oh my. 0:26:13.320 --> 0:26:17.240 Uh, sir, dude, that's like a that's like a week 0:26:17.280 --> 0:26:19.640 ten type question, pre pre season question. 0:26:19.760 --> 0:26:22.359 Man, those are the real fans that are going to 0:26:22.840 --> 0:26:25.040 the real fans are going to those pre seas or 0:26:25.040 --> 0:26:26.160 the training care. 0:26:26.760 --> 0:26:29.480 You're sitting on those metal bleachers. That was that wasn't right. 0:26:30.400 --> 0:26:32.679 That wasn't right. Did you listen to t I You 0:26:32.760 --> 0:26:33.600 can have whatever? 0:26:33.720 --> 0:26:43.000 You That was a good song, man, Man, that was 0:26:43.440 --> 0:26:43.760 right then. 0:26:44.960 --> 0:26:47.359 That was the one two thousand and was also loving 0:26:47.359 --> 0:26:49.200 this club Busher and Young Jeezy. The other good one 0:26:49.680 --> 0:26:53.760 Atlanta was up this year Atlanta. Man, did you like 0:26:54.000 --> 0:26:56.440 did you did you listen to? Did you listen to 0:26:56.480 --> 0:26:58.320 music before music game? 0:26:58.760 --> 0:27:00.440 Oh? Yeah? What was in the I know what? 0:27:00.520 --> 0:27:04.320 You know what, Man, I got to the point where 0:27:04.400 --> 0:27:06.800 I started listening to like at first and again I 0:27:06.800 --> 0:27:08.840 would listen to like crunk music. I was listening to 0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:12.000 LITL John and you know what I mean, and just 0:27:12.080 --> 0:27:15.560 like man, just all the hardcore, just hype music just 0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:18.960 getting turned up. And then as I got older, I 0:27:19.000 --> 0:27:21.159 started listening to jazz. 0:27:20.720 --> 0:27:21.520 And things like that. 0:27:22.320 --> 0:27:26.199 Yeah same, yeah, yeah, jazz music, just slow music just 0:27:26.200 --> 0:27:28.600 to relax my mind, because I found that the more 0:27:28.680 --> 0:27:29.879 calm I was and relax. 0:27:29.960 --> 0:27:31.280 I was I can go out and just be more. 0:27:31.280 --> 0:27:32.800 I can go out and be more effective. 0:27:33.040 --> 0:27:35.000 Yeah, you know what I mean, I do especially a 0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:39.840 year fourteen, thirteen and fourteen, it was like yeah. 0:27:39.560 --> 0:27:40.320 Yeah, I remember. 0:27:41.040 --> 0:27:44.320 He used to listen to movie music, so like Hans 0:27:44.440 --> 0:27:49.480 Zimmer nice and like you listen like the Inception or 0:27:49.560 --> 0:27:53.600 the Inner Seller like soundtrack and like I liked that 0:27:53.680 --> 0:27:56.520 kind of music because it was like low key, but 0:27:56.560 --> 0:28:00.000 it allowed me to visualize my game plan. I didn't 0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:03.560 want lyrics. I wanted to think, but I wanted something 0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:06.480 to help me think. So that's what I like. I 0:28:06.560 --> 0:28:09.560 like the calm music too, because you get too hyped up, 0:28:09.640 --> 0:28:11.959 you know, you want to blow your load. Yeah, the 0:28:11.960 --> 0:28:15.800 first first first drive, you got this. This ain't a 0:28:15.840 --> 0:28:18.480 sprint and it's a marathon marathon, you know what I mean. 0:28:18.520 --> 0:28:21.040 The you know, the calmer you are, the higher, the 0:28:21.359 --> 0:28:23.119 better you can get through the highs and the lows, 0:28:23.720 --> 0:28:29.240 you know what I mean? Absolutely saw five, Zach and 0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:32.359 Mary make a porno Secret Life, so of be What 0:28:32.440 --> 0:28:36.280 are all everyone's making movies of crazy stories? You watching 0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:41.520 that Hulu's Patriots? What is it called Aaron? 0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:47.000 Aaron? Is that Hulu? Yeah? I think that's yeah, the 0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:50.080 drama one you watch that I haven't gotten today. 0:28:50.600 --> 0:28:52.120 I don't even know if I want to watch it. Man, 0:28:52.160 --> 0:28:54.200 I just I put that behind me, you know what 0:28:54.200 --> 0:28:55.400 I mean. I'm with you. 0:28:55.400 --> 0:28:56.760 You played with the guy. I know, the guy I 0:28:56.760 --> 0:29:00.760 played against him. But it's just one those things. It's 0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:05.160 like man to it is a situation. I'm with it. 0:29:05.200 --> 0:29:08.720 But there's been some really funny clips that come out, 0:29:09.440 --> 0:29:12.520 like all the of these shows, because they have people 0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:15.640 that are acting as like there's a guy that acting 0:29:15.720 --> 0:29:17.840 his Gronk in the show. There's a guy that's acting 0:29:17.880 --> 0:29:20.560 as Belichick in the show. They have some little white 0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:24.320 dude looking athletic as playing me. Uh, you know, like 0:29:24.400 --> 0:29:27.400 so they have they have all these guys. 0:29:28.000 --> 0:29:30.400 That's hilarious. I gotta go watch it now, let me 0:29:30.400 --> 0:29:32.239 go check it out. Then I gotta see this in 0:29:32.240 --> 0:29:35.400 the clips. You can see the clips on social This 0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:36.240 is funny. 0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:39.680 But who would play you, guys, those those two thousand 0:29:40.120 --> 0:29:43.920 late two thousand Super Bowl niners, who would play you 0:29:44.000 --> 0:29:45.200 in one of those shows? 0:29:45.720 --> 0:29:48.680 Actor? I don't know who would play me, man. They 0:29:48.760 --> 0:29:51.560 might have More's Chestnut playing me or so. I don't know. Yes, 0:29:52.000 --> 0:29:52.520 I don't know. 0:29:52.600 --> 0:29:56.520 Man, can play yourself always a good one. Yeah, that 0:29:56.560 --> 0:30:01.160 would bear you act. You can play yourself. You haven't 0:30:01.200 --> 0:30:03.360 aged you know what? Yeah maybe, oh, thank you. I 0:30:03.400 --> 0:30:09.160 appreciate that. Dude looks youngest. Maybe I could play myself. 0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:12.600 Talk to us about your acting career, like this is 0:30:12.640 --> 0:30:14.880 this is really cool. You take a lot of pride 0:30:14.880 --> 0:30:18.880 in it. You got a movie plan B coming out. Uh, 0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:21.800 you were talking about your other movie that Please Don't 0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:24.120 Feed the Please Don't Feed the children. That was at 0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:26.040 what made it to the film festival? 0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:29.320 Yeah, how was that? He just Uh, it was great, man, 0:30:29.560 --> 0:30:31.000 it was. It was awesome. We had a lot of 0:30:31.000 --> 0:30:33.120 good feedback. It was pretty cool getting out of the 0:30:33.160 --> 0:30:34.800 car and no one knew me from football. 0:30:34.960 --> 0:30:37.280 Yeah, they just had my pictures from my head shots 0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:37.880 printed out. 0:30:37.960 --> 0:30:38.560 It's like bernon. 0:30:39.880 --> 0:30:41.800 I mean some of them didn't speak English. From all 0:30:41.840 --> 0:30:44.719 around the world. Love horror, Yeah, movies. 0:30:45.120 --> 0:30:46.959 It was. It was dope. I thought that was I 0:30:47.000 --> 0:30:48.520 was like, man, this is amazing. 0:30:49.160 --> 0:30:52.000 That's gotta be amazing on your part because you you've 0:30:52.040 --> 0:30:56.480 done such a great job in your football career to 0:30:56.600 --> 0:31:01.200 where you're doing something else and people are recognizing you 0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:04.480 for that. That's very inspirational for all the other guys 0:31:04.480 --> 0:31:07.080 in the leagues. That's pretty cool, man. Now, how's the 0:31:07.120 --> 0:31:10.880 transition from how did that transition go from football to 0:31:10.960 --> 0:31:11.880 what you're doing now? 0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:16.800 You know, there's a lot of correlation between football and 0:31:16.920 --> 0:31:22.240 when I'm anything in the creative space, whether it's music, acting, dancing, 0:31:22.320 --> 0:31:22.960 whatever it is. 0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:25.880 It's the preparation. The preparation is the biggest part. 0:31:26.080 --> 0:31:28.320 And I tell this story, and I believe I talk 0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:30.400 about this in my book, but I tell the story 0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:32.840 about the things that I did before game day. Yeah, 0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:37.000 catching getting on the drug machine and you know, just 0:31:37.000 --> 0:31:38.600 standing in front of that machine and those balls. 0:31:38.640 --> 0:31:39.360 You know how that machine. 0:31:39.400 --> 0:31:41.720 Those balls are coming out fast and I would catch 0:31:41.880 --> 0:31:46.200 two hundred of those balls after every practice consistently. And 0:31:46.440 --> 0:31:49.280 what I do now is before I go in front 0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:52.000 of a camera, and I might get a month, three weeks, 0:31:52.280 --> 0:31:54.160 but I'm making sure that I'm super prepared before I 0:31:54.200 --> 0:31:56.880 step in front of the camera, just like game day, right, 0:31:56.960 --> 0:31:58.840 And that's the preparation that goes into it. You should 0:31:58.840 --> 0:32:00.480 be able to do anything that I have to tell 0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:01.960 you to do. You should be able to do it 0:32:02.000 --> 0:32:03.040 because you're well prepared. 0:32:03.120 --> 0:32:05.680 Yeah, what's your dream role. 0:32:06.640 --> 0:32:10.040 My dream roles to play superhero. Maybe I can be 0:32:10.080 --> 0:32:13.960 the next door. I can be the next door. My 0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:14.760 name is store. 0:32:16.880 --> 0:32:19.600 Hell yeah, do you want to be a Marvel movie? 0:32:19.840 --> 0:32:22.040 I would love to be the awesome that'd be awesome. 0:32:22.600 --> 0:32:25.000 Are you? Are you big comic comic kids? I love 0:32:25.040 --> 0:32:27.160 comic I've always been in comics. I used to draw 0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:30.280 my favorite characters. Cartoon with this cartoon character. Who's your 0:32:30.320 --> 0:32:32.680 favorite character? What character? Just cartoon? 0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:34.320 Marvel, Marvel. 0:32:35.040 --> 0:32:38.440 I'm gonna have to go with and man, he's a 0:32:38.440 --> 0:32:40.600 Marvel guy, right, yeah, Man, he's a new character. 0:32:41.000 --> 0:32:43.520 I like, Yeah, I like him. I like I like him. Man, 0:32:43.800 --> 0:32:45.360 I think I like I'm kind of like one of 0:32:45.360 --> 0:32:48.520 those guys. I like the new the new characters, you 0:32:48.680 --> 0:32:50.920 know what I mean. I like those new guys because 0:32:50.960 --> 0:32:52.640 I mean, like we used to go with some of 0:32:52.680 --> 0:32:55.280 the older guys, older characters, but the new new characters 0:32:55.280 --> 0:32:57.160 are like like it, I feel like they're going to 0:32:57.200 --> 0:33:00.320 be around for for years to come, you know what 0:33:00.400 --> 0:33:02.000 I mean. We had we had like a lot of 0:33:02.000 --> 0:33:03.640 the characters like Superman, Batman. 0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:07.600 I like, I was always a DC kid, Oh really, 0:33:07.840 --> 0:33:10.320 I loved Batman, Bruce Wayne, and I was also a 0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:11.920 ninja turtle kid. I like turtles. 0:33:11.960 --> 0:33:12.800 Nice. Oh, I love. 0:33:14.720 --> 0:33:16.600 Anything that has to do with like a superhero. I 0:33:16.720 --> 0:33:18.160 want to be a part of that. I think that 0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:19.120 would be really cool. 0:33:19.160 --> 0:33:19.360 Man. 0:33:19.720 --> 0:33:23.560 Spider Man was always that'd be dope. Man, How was 0:33:23.600 --> 0:33:27.560 it acting with Morgan Freeman? That was That's gonna be legendary. 0:33:27.720 --> 0:33:30.280 That was amazing, man, that was what'd you take from 0:33:30.280 --> 0:33:33.160 his professional like in the profession? Like when because you 0:33:33.160 --> 0:33:35.960 guys are working, like you know, you're kind of did 0:33:35.960 --> 0:33:38.160 you did you feel like a rookie in front of 0:33:38.160 --> 0:33:38.560 a vet? 0:33:38.800 --> 0:33:41.280 Man? I was so nervous. I mean, like I'm about 0:33:41.280 --> 0:33:42.400 to work. I'm about to work. 0:33:42.840 --> 0:33:44.160 Like, first of all, I don't I don't even know 0:33:44.200 --> 0:33:46.560 how it got the role as a SUP as a 0:33:46.600 --> 0:33:49.600 serial killer, right, I'm like, man, how did I get 0:33:49.600 --> 0:33:50.720 this role as a serial killer? 0:33:50.800 --> 0:33:51.400 Serial killer? 0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:55.600 That's a tough job, man, because you have to to 0:33:55.680 --> 0:33:56.800 play a serial killer. 0:33:56.640 --> 0:33:57.560 Especially someone like that. 0:33:57.600 --> 0:34:00.680 I mean, this character from South Africa, he's hard body, 0:34:00.720 --> 0:34:04.200 body parts, you know, and he's selling it to. 0:34:05.720 --> 0:34:06.400 Corporate America. 0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:08.520 There's guys who want to want to feel like they 0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:10.839 want to be powerful, right, they go to this guy, 0:34:10.960 --> 0:34:14.160 this character named Randoku, so I'm like, man, how am 0:34:14.160 --> 0:34:16.320 I What am I going to do to separate myself 0:34:16.680 --> 0:34:19.000 and just you know, to show that I did the work. 0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:21.440 That's what they say, and I can do the work right. 0:34:21.480 --> 0:34:23.560 The work is what we just talked about being prepared. 0:34:23.680 --> 0:34:25.600 And there's a lot of different things that go into 0:34:25.880 --> 0:34:29.480 creating this character. I mean, you have the backstory, uh paraphrasing, 0:34:30.239 --> 0:34:34.040 emotional attachments that go to these lines, and every line 0:34:34.080 --> 0:34:36.480 is different. You know, you want to feel the emotion behind, 0:34:36.640 --> 0:34:39.719 put the motion behind those words. The words really mean 0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:43.239 nothing without the emotion. So I went I learned the 0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:46.000 actual language, you know, as players, that's what we do. 0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:50.799 Language Zulu I called. I got on Instagram. 0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:53.239 I found this girl who lived in South Africa and 0:34:53.280 --> 0:34:55.160 she taught me over what's up? 0:34:55.440 --> 0:34:55.880 Wow? 0:34:56.239 --> 0:34:58.680 Yeah, So Morgan didn't know I learned it because he 0:34:58.680 --> 0:35:03.440 didn't learn anything, but I learned. And the scene that 0:35:03.480 --> 0:35:06.080 we had do you have an accent? You had an 0:35:06.080 --> 0:35:08.080 accent and everything had an accent. I had learned the language. 0:35:08.120 --> 0:35:10.640 Everything you weren't work with an accent coach, yep, yep. 0:35:10.640 --> 0:35:11.600 I had a dialect coach. 0:35:12.000 --> 0:35:15.200 That's tight, that's putting in the work, work and. 0:35:15.200 --> 0:35:16.799 That's football players. That's what we do. We put in 0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:17.120 the work. 0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:19.960 Yeah, so, I mean that's so I felt like, you know, 0:35:20.160 --> 0:35:22.400 I had one opportunity to show that I could do 0:35:22.440 --> 0:35:24.560 this and and that's what I did. 0:35:24.719 --> 0:35:25.640 You know, I put the work in. 0:35:25.760 --> 0:35:29.120 Man just did That's awesome. 0:35:29.320 --> 0:35:32.319 And how was Morgan Freeman just being in the same man, 0:35:32.360 --> 0:35:33.440 he was awesome. 0:35:33.480 --> 0:35:33.680 Man. 0:35:33.800 --> 0:35:36.040 He I had a scene with him where I had 0:35:36.080 --> 0:35:37.880 to turn around and walk up to him and I 0:35:38.000 --> 0:35:41.040 just kind of dropped the knife like this. 0:35:42.000 --> 0:35:43.640 But he looked at me, he said, you know. 0:35:43.600 --> 0:35:48.440 What, everything so just he had tried this, look at 0:35:48.440 --> 0:35:50.480 the knife and then look at me. 0:35:50.920 --> 0:35:54.239 Then let it go. He said, try that. It was. 0:35:54.320 --> 0:35:56.279 It was a slight little change. I did it. It was. 0:35:56.680 --> 0:36:00.279 It was a great choice. Gee pro pro It was. 0:36:00.239 --> 0:36:02.759 A great choice. I mean, my, you know what, no 0:36:02.920 --> 0:36:06.239 choice is. Every choice you make is going to be good. 0:36:06.640 --> 0:36:09.759 But there's choices that you that you make and you 0:36:09.880 --> 0:36:14.279 be like wow. As a director, someone who's in the 0:36:14.360 --> 0:36:16.040 in the film industry, they can look at it and be like, wow, 0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:16.319 that was. 0:36:16.840 --> 0:36:19.320 That was a great choice. You know, the choices you 0:36:19.360 --> 0:36:21.160 get chance to make choices. 0:36:20.840 --> 0:36:25.600 And all those choices are determine one thing truths or 0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:32.440 lies exactly? Can you believe? Is this happening on? This 0:36:32.560 --> 0:36:36.360 is this is real? This is fucking real. Nah, I 0:36:36.440 --> 0:36:43.400 don't believe it. I not ain't it. Yeah, that's fucking awesome. 0:36:43.440 --> 0:36:46.680 I get I've done a little bit of acting here 0:36:46.719 --> 0:36:49.279 and there, and I work with the coach and it's 0:36:49.320 --> 0:36:55.759 a very it's a very very skillful technique, and it's 0:36:55.880 --> 0:36:58.239 very hard. You know, you got to be able to 0:36:58.640 --> 0:37:02.040 really open up and the lions. You gotta remember the 0:37:02.080 --> 0:37:04.719 fucking lines, Lions. You gotta you gotta get to a 0:37:04.719 --> 0:37:08.360 point where you know the Yeah, it's a lot. What's 0:37:08.440 --> 0:37:10.560 one of the what's one teammate of years that would 0:37:10.560 --> 0:37:13.719 be a You're like, yeah, he could act through the years. 0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:17.080 I'm gonna have to say, uh a j Francis. When 0:37:17.080 --> 0:37:19.480 I was at the Commanders, he's with uh he's doing 0:37:19.520 --> 0:37:20.160 wrestling now? 0:37:20.760 --> 0:37:21.160 Oh wow. 0:37:21.160 --> 0:37:23.960 He's always he had a big personality. I knew he 0:37:24.000 --> 0:37:26.720 could be an actor if he wanted to be. Yeah, 0:37:26.760 --> 0:37:31.240 who else? Maybe he's probably one guy that really stands 0:37:31.239 --> 0:37:32.400 out Joe Staley. 0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:35.400 Oh yeah, he could be an actor. Yeah, yeah, he 0:37:35.400 --> 0:37:37.160 could be an actor. He was he was always a 0:37:37.440 --> 0:37:40.280 dynamic behind the camera. Wow. 0:37:41.320 --> 0:37:44.400 Now let's go back into the sports world. Two thousand 0:37:44.400 --> 0:37:48.800 and eight, two thousand and nine Super Bowl champs, Pittsburgh Steelers. 0:37:49.120 --> 0:37:52.560 Oh that that was a Santonio Holmes catch to tack. Oh, 0:37:52.560 --> 0:37:57.799 I remember that, James Harrison, we had he man run 0:37:57.840 --> 0:38:01.120 back and can't stay the lum shout out. NFL MVP 0:38:01.440 --> 0:38:03.960 was Peyton Manning? You played with Peyton? 0:38:04.400 --> 0:38:06.400 Yeah? How was that? You want a Super Bowl with them? 0:38:06.600 --> 0:38:07.480 Peyton was awesome? 0:38:08.239 --> 0:38:10.560 What was What was the biggest difference between Peyton and 0:38:10.600 --> 0:38:12.400 all the other quarterbacks you played with? 0:38:13.840 --> 0:38:16.440 The one thing that stood out with Peyton was that 0:38:17.280 --> 0:38:19.280 when I was sitting in that meeting for the first time, 0:38:19.360 --> 0:38:21.120 and I mean he just kind of just took over 0:38:21.160 --> 0:38:24.480 the took over the room. Normally you have the off 0:38:24.640 --> 0:38:28.840 you know, see off offensive coordinator, you know, installed the plays, 0:38:28.920 --> 0:38:32.480 go over everything. But Peyton was the one who stood 0:38:32.560 --> 0:38:35.760 up like a general. That was that was pretty phenomenal 0:38:35.840 --> 0:38:38.280 to me. I've never seen anything like it, and I 0:38:38.280 --> 0:38:41.960 played with some awesome quarterbacks, but he was just he 0:38:42.080 --> 0:38:42.879 was just different, man. 0:38:42.960 --> 0:38:44.880 He was he was just different. 0:38:45.120 --> 0:38:48.840 Was he going over like was he given coaching points 0:38:48.840 --> 0:38:51.960 to the line, Like, all right, guys on this okie front, 0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:56.439 We're gonna slide you guys this way. Hey, receivers, if 0:38:56.480 --> 0:38:57.160 these two. 0:38:56.960 --> 0:38:59.160 Guys come, you know, I need you to break a 0:38:59.239 --> 0:39:02.720 hot route. Is he breaking down play? He was? Probably? 0:39:02.920 --> 0:39:06.120 There was probably a correlation between him and hit him 0:39:06.160 --> 0:39:09.439 and Tom everything Tom did. You probably see the same 0:39:09.440 --> 0:39:11.840 thing in Peyton. If you look at their careers and 0:39:11.880 --> 0:39:15.280 who they how they their longevity, everything that they stood 0:39:15.320 --> 0:39:17.719 for and just their their records, everything that they did 0:39:17.719 --> 0:39:20.440 from all their accolades, everything, they are identical. 0:39:20.960 --> 0:39:23.560 They're just pro quarter they're pro quarterbacks. 0:39:23.640 --> 0:39:26.279 It's just different. It's different, man. Everybody's different. Man Like 0:39:26.320 --> 0:39:29.560 you will never see another Michael Jordan. It's gonna be 0:39:29.680 --> 0:39:31.479 years before we see that. Yeah. 0:39:31.680 --> 0:39:34.279 Yeah, well it's gonna be years before we see Tom 0:39:34.320 --> 0:39:35.360 Brady and Peyton Manning. 0:39:36.000 --> 0:39:39.560 They're just they that's just who they are. Yeah. 0:39:40.120 --> 0:39:45.719 The prep and the mentality and yeah, the killer instinct, 0:39:45.960 --> 0:39:50.759 the people's skills of leadership. There's a lot that goes 0:39:50.800 --> 0:39:51.279 into it. 0:39:51.320 --> 0:39:55.399 That's a tough man. They're probably the people I think 0:39:55.440 --> 0:39:57.880 people might when they look at it, they look at 0:39:57.880 --> 0:39:59.359 the team and they look at the game, they might 0:39:59.480 --> 0:40:02.400 they might say, oh, okay, well I'm going to go 0:40:02.440 --> 0:40:03.000 to the defense. 0:40:03.040 --> 0:40:07.440 Maybe maybe you know, Patrick Willis is the toughest guy 0:40:07.480 --> 0:40:10.080 in the field. Maybe it's Von Miller. They're going to 0:40:10.120 --> 0:40:12.759 pick those guys, but they don't know. They don't they're 0:40:12.800 --> 0:40:14.360 not out there, they don't see what's going on. But 0:40:14.600 --> 0:40:17.279 those quarterbacks, guys like Tom Brady and Peyton Manning, Yeah, 0:40:17.360 --> 0:40:19.879 those guys, you can talk to them if you want. 0:40:19.920 --> 0:40:22.200 They're tough. They're just as tough as the guy that 0:40:22.239 --> 0:40:23.000 guy on defense. 0:40:23.200 --> 0:40:24.439 Yeah, without a doubt. 0:40:24.480 --> 0:40:26.880 And it's not just the physical toughness, it's the mental 0:40:26.960 --> 0:40:27.879 tough mental. 0:40:28.160 --> 0:40:31.120 That inside of here. They know exactly what they're about 0:40:31.160 --> 0:40:33.560 to do before they even walk out in the field. 0:40:33.560 --> 0:40:33.960 I love it. 0:40:34.360 --> 0:40:37.680 It's a thing called visualization, and some of the greatest players, 0:40:37.680 --> 0:40:40.560 like yourself, we know exactly what that is. We see 0:40:40.640 --> 0:40:43.759 everything that we're doing before it even happens. We manifest 0:40:44.280 --> 0:40:47.319 that one hundred and fifty one hundred and seventy yard 0:40:47.360 --> 0:40:50.719 game that we're about to go have manifest You know. 0:40:51.520 --> 0:40:54.280 It's so repetitive and it goes into the prep process 0:40:54.320 --> 0:40:55.640 for the football player. 0:40:55.360 --> 0:40:56.680 At least for me. 0:40:57.280 --> 0:40:59.880 You do the drill that translates to the team, that 0:41:00.040 --> 0:41:02.000 team that translates to this, and you do it so 0:41:02.080 --> 0:41:04.840 many times and you study it on film, by the 0:41:04.920 --> 0:41:07.280 time you do in the game is deja vu exactly. 0:41:08.239 --> 0:41:10.759 That's the difference between great, being great and being good. 0:41:11.200 --> 0:41:13.120 The good players they don't know how to manifest, they 0:41:13.120 --> 0:41:15.719 don't know how to visualize. But the great players they know, 0:41:15.880 --> 0:41:17.680 they know the essence of visualization. 0:41:18.600 --> 0:41:20.319 That's what they know. They see it before. That's why 0:41:20.320 --> 0:41:22.239 the game is so slow. Man, you ever had a 0:41:22.520 --> 0:41:25.160 There's been games you can probably attest to this. We've 0:41:25.200 --> 0:41:28.239 all been the great players. I'm not calling I don't 0:41:28.280 --> 0:41:31.880 like to talk about myself, but the game is so slow. 0:41:32.400 --> 0:41:34.080 It feels like you can run around the whole field 0:41:34.080 --> 0:41:35.279 and everybody's still standing still. 0:41:36.280 --> 0:41:38.480 Everything, every catch, every play. 0:41:38.840 --> 0:41:40.520 I mean I would have games where I well, I 0:41:40.520 --> 0:41:42.000 go to the coach, I say, coach, do me the bolly? 0:41:42.080 --> 0:41:42.680 Can I stop me? 0:41:42.960 --> 0:41:45.360 And I really mean it from deep down inside, because 0:41:45.480 --> 0:41:48.560 the game is so slow. To me, it's like everybody's 0:41:48.600 --> 0:41:51.080 moving in slow motion. I'm moving so fast. I can catch, 0:41:51.120 --> 0:41:53.040 I can do the biggest games that I've had one 0:41:53.120 --> 0:41:55.680 hundred and eighty yards to you know, two touchdowns. 0:41:55.880 --> 0:41:58.120 You know, those games are the games that were really 0:41:58.160 --> 0:41:58.640 slow to me. 0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:03.719 The zone, the zone. I've felt that a few times. 0:42:04.040 --> 0:42:07.239 I felt periods of it throughout the game. There's only 0:42:07.320 --> 0:42:09.680 been maybe two games, and one was in the Super 0:42:09.719 --> 0:42:11.479 Bowl against the Rams or I was in the zone 0:42:11.480 --> 0:42:13.440 where everything you did worked. 0:42:13.520 --> 0:42:15.520 And you know that the biggest and every time that 0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:19.040 you didn't feel it, Yeah, you just didn't your mind 0:42:19.040 --> 0:42:20.880 in top to the space to let you know that's 0:42:21.040 --> 0:42:23.239 that's what was going on. It was there, it was there, 0:42:23.360 --> 0:42:26.640 but you just couldn't. It takes a certain moment or 0:42:26.640 --> 0:42:28.200 a certain time for you to really like, I don't 0:42:28.239 --> 0:42:30.120 know what it is, Like you said to me, I've 0:42:30.160 --> 0:42:32.160 only felt it three two to three times. Yeah, and 0:42:32.200 --> 0:42:35.520 my whole career. But you've been there for a whole game. 0:42:35.600 --> 0:42:38.040 You can't get there unless you're in that state. You 0:42:38.040 --> 0:42:40.320 can't have those type of performances unless you're in that state. 0:42:40.480 --> 0:42:43.160 Yeah, but it's something that's letting you know, it's opening 0:42:43.200 --> 0:42:45.520 it up your mind to say, this is what's happening 0:42:45.800 --> 0:42:48.240 right now, Yeah, this is what's happening. 0:42:48.360 --> 0:42:50.719 It's an amazing feeling. It is it is. 0:42:50.920 --> 0:42:54.640 It's like it's like that scene in Caddy Shack where 0:42:54.640 --> 0:42:57.759 it's raining the guys played his best game. But golf ever, 0:42:58.360 --> 0:43:01.040 he ain't letting that thing go. There's light and he's 0:43:01.040 --> 0:43:04.120 gonna get struck. It didn't matter. You're having the it's 0:43:04.239 --> 0:43:06.640 just going right. He's just going right. 0:43:07.320 --> 0:43:07.600 Man. 0:43:08.160 --> 0:43:11.000 How about Tom Brady got his He got injured this 0:43:11.040 --> 0:43:13.520 season opener, that's when he tours. ACL got a rule 0:43:13.719 --> 0:43:17.200 in place for him. A lot of the quarterback injury 0:43:17.239 --> 0:43:21.080 or the quarterback rules rough in the passers. Probably because 0:43:21.080 --> 0:43:24.320 of that injury. D Mayo won Defense or Rookie of 0:43:24.360 --> 0:43:26.560 the Year. You watching football at all right now? 0:43:26.680 --> 0:43:29.239 Yeah, a little bit. What do you think you hear? 0:43:29.360 --> 0:43:31.680 You hear what Mayo said? What did he say? 0:43:32.280 --> 0:43:35.560 He called the team soft? 0:43:36.120 --> 0:43:38.279 That's crazy, yeah, but it was. 0:43:38.880 --> 0:43:42.560 I think he was including himself when he said it, 0:43:42.640 --> 0:43:47.000 because in that building, they've been preaching for years. You 0:43:47.080 --> 0:43:49.759 gotta to be a tough team. You gotta run the ball, 0:43:49.760 --> 0:43:51.640 you gotta stop the rown, you gotta cover kicks. They 0:43:51.640 --> 0:43:53.919 gave up a boultlot of the yards and run game 0:43:54.000 --> 0:43:56.600 that game. They couldn't run the ball, and they gave 0:43:56.680 --> 0:43:59.239 up a punt return for a touchdown. So I think 0:43:59.280 --> 0:44:01.759 he was trying to put a spark on the team. 0:44:02.000 --> 0:44:04.600 Okay, you know, well, see that's one thing I had 0:44:04.640 --> 0:44:06.080 to say, say, I applod him for that, and then 0:44:06.160 --> 0:44:08.040 if he's putting himself in that category, it's always we 0:44:08.160 --> 0:44:09.160 as never you. 0:44:09.560 --> 0:44:11.960 Or them or you know, if it's us. 0:44:12.200 --> 0:44:15.520 Yeah, the way you change your words is huge, man, 0:44:16.320 --> 0:44:16.960 you know what I mean. 0:44:17.280 --> 0:44:18.799 It's not what you say, it's how you say it. 0:44:20.320 --> 0:44:23.640 So if he was, if it was, if his intentions 0:44:24.160 --> 0:44:26.080 were in that direction, then I would I was, I 0:44:26.080 --> 0:44:26.879 would have plod him. 0:44:27.000 --> 0:44:30.160 Yeah, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. 0:44:30.560 --> 0:44:32.040 I played with the music. Good dude. 0:44:32.040 --> 0:44:35.440 I think he's just you know, they've been preaching a 0:44:35.440 --> 0:44:37.880 lot of shit in there and things are going south 0:44:38.520 --> 0:44:41.400 south right now. They're banged up everywhere. It's tough to lose. 0:44:41.800 --> 0:44:44.000 How is it, like you've been on some of those 0:44:44.000 --> 0:44:47.279 teams early in your career with the Niners, how is 0:44:47.440 --> 0:44:50.080 how do you how do you as a player, if 0:44:50.120 --> 0:44:52.880 you're getting your ass bet every week? How do you 0:44:52.960 --> 0:44:54.440 keep your mindset? Like? 0:44:55.200 --> 0:44:58.200 How do you keep your sense sanity? 0:44:58.360 --> 0:45:02.359 I think it's extremely hard, especially when you're losing and 0:45:03.719 --> 0:45:05.759 you can go it can be three four years of 0:45:05.880 --> 0:45:06.400 just losing. 0:45:06.560 --> 0:45:08.680 Yeah, Well, you just get tired. Of it. It's like 0:45:08.719 --> 0:45:09.480 you're tired of it. 0:45:10.000 --> 0:45:13.000 But that's when you have to understand that everyone feels 0:45:13.000 --> 0:45:17.319 that way. How can I be a leader and get 0:45:17.320 --> 0:45:19.360 my message across to these guys in the way that 0:45:19.400 --> 0:45:21.840 they can step their game up or just come together 0:45:21.880 --> 0:45:24.319 and just play as one, because that's when that's when 0:45:24.360 --> 0:45:26.480 things go south, when you're not playing as one. 0:45:27.200 --> 0:45:30.759 I think a lot of people also like you got 0:45:30.760 --> 0:45:35.560 to focus on just improving. Like you're saying, whatever you 0:45:35.680 --> 0:45:39.959 did last game, say you did something five things five 0:45:40.000 --> 0:45:42.760 things wrong, let's try to get it to two things wrong, yeah, 0:45:43.120 --> 0:45:45.400 and then maybe get it to nothing wrong on an 0:45:45.400 --> 0:45:47.560 e and we all just kind of and then you 0:45:47.600 --> 0:45:50.239 start getting to get a win, a play, right. I 0:45:50.280 --> 0:45:52.640 think that's what it's the hardest thing to do ever, 0:45:52.760 --> 0:45:54.960 is when you're in a rut and you got to 0:45:55.000 --> 0:45:59.840 get out. But I just always remember, you know, Belichick saying, guys, 0:46:00.520 --> 0:46:03.080 we just after a big loss or you know, maybe 0:46:03.080 --> 0:46:05.440 a two game slide, which we had very few, but 0:46:05.480 --> 0:46:08.400 I remember we always say, we just got to stack 0:46:08.800 --> 0:46:13.360 today with tomorrow, yeah, and then tomorrow with the next day, 0:46:13.800 --> 0:46:16.080 you know, and then it'll compound. 0:46:17.280 --> 0:46:19.879 If you're improving now you're right. 0:46:20.040 --> 0:46:22.040 And that's how my coach came to me one damn practice. 0:46:22.040 --> 0:46:23.880 He said, you can't allow it. You're not allowed to 0:46:23.880 --> 0:46:25.880 have a bad practice. He said, you can You're not 0:46:25.880 --> 0:46:28.160 allowed to have a bad practice. I said, what, Coach, 0:46:28.200 --> 0:46:30.399 I just I mean, I dropped the ball. He's like, look, 0:46:30.440 --> 0:46:32.840 you said you're not allowed to have a bad practice. 0:46:33.200 --> 0:46:35.040 I set the bar high, and you, like you said, 0:46:35.040 --> 0:46:36.480 you gotta compound, you gotta build on it. 0:46:36.640 --> 0:46:37.640 You got to keep stacking. 0:46:37.920 --> 0:46:41.200 And the biggest, the greatest players, what they do is 0:46:41.200 --> 0:46:43.440 that they take those notes, they write down everything. They 0:46:43.440 --> 0:46:45.640 write them down, and they keep those notes and they 0:46:45.640 --> 0:46:47.200 make a list of everything they need to get better, 0:46:47.200 --> 0:46:48.040 and they focus on it. 0:46:48.200 --> 0:46:50.000 They meditate on those things. And that's what you have 0:46:50.080 --> 0:46:52.040 to do if you're gonna get better, and if you 0:46:52.120 --> 0:46:54.400 care anything you'll do you'll do that. You know what 0:46:54.440 --> 0:46:54.680 I mean. 0:46:54.800 --> 0:46:56.640 You go to me, you remember going to the meetings, 0:46:56.760 --> 0:46:59.440 you done, had your notebook open. Then coach is going 0:46:59.480 --> 0:47:02.279 to good coaches, they they're gonna address that. 0:47:02.520 --> 0:47:06.440 Yeah, without a doubt. And I think I think a 0:47:06.480 --> 0:47:08.839 lot of guys don't know how to get better. They 0:47:09.160 --> 0:47:13.800 think that working hard is getting better. Yeah, it's working smart. 0:47:13.840 --> 0:47:16.480 It's finding a coach, Like, what was the coach that 0:47:16.520 --> 0:47:19.080 said that to you, Jim Hostler. 0:47:19.320 --> 0:47:20.000 Jim Hostler. 0:47:20.080 --> 0:47:23.399 Yeah, he was offensive coordinated at the time of quarterbacks coach, 0:47:23.440 --> 0:47:24.280 offense coordinator. 0:47:24.360 --> 0:47:25.120 He's promoted. 0:47:25.280 --> 0:47:29.080 Yeah, So, like to improve, you need to find out 0:47:29.120 --> 0:47:32.080 what you need to improve on. Now, whether that's from 0:47:32.200 --> 0:47:36.200 a teammate, a mentor a coach. Find the things you 0:47:36.239 --> 0:47:39.080 work hard, need to work on, You work hard at that, 0:47:39.560 --> 0:47:41.960 and that's how you improve. It's not just some guys 0:47:41.960 --> 0:47:44.000 just don't know how to work hard because they think 0:47:44.040 --> 0:47:46.040 if you're gonna go go into the weight room and 0:47:46.360 --> 0:47:48.239 lift a bunch and wake up early to go run 0:47:48.280 --> 0:47:51.000 a little extra, maybe that's not what you're trying. That's 0:47:51.040 --> 0:47:52.719 not what you need to get better. Maybe you need 0:47:52.760 --> 0:47:55.160 to get in the film room and be able to 0:47:55.200 --> 0:47:58.960 decipher single high safety from two safeties, you know, and 0:47:59.600 --> 0:48:01.799 like they're you got to find out what you need 0:48:01.840 --> 0:48:05.239 to work on, work hard at that, and that's when 0:48:05.280 --> 0:48:06.280 improvement happens. 0:48:06.400 --> 0:48:08.720 And that's crazy. You know why why that's crazy? 0:48:08.800 --> 0:48:14.000 I say that we're talking about professional athletes, premiere the 0:48:14.080 --> 0:48:17.080 top high as you can go, and you don't know that. Yeah, 0:48:17.160 --> 0:48:19.160 a lot of guys don't see That's what I'm saying. 0:48:19.640 --> 0:48:23.800 That's why there's separation at that level. People think everybody 0:48:23.880 --> 0:48:27.040 is great. No, everybody's not great. You can separate yourself 0:48:27.080 --> 0:48:29.640 and that's and the guys who know the difference between 0:48:31.400 --> 0:48:34.560 getting better and not and not knowing how to be better, 0:48:35.000 --> 0:48:37.480 those are the ones who have the longevity and make 0:48:37.480 --> 0:48:40.120 it to the Hall of Fame and receive those accolades. 0:48:41.440 --> 0:48:45.439 Now you go from there was talks that USC could 0:48:45.440 --> 0:48:48.440 beat some of those Niners teams back in those days, 0:48:48.960 --> 0:48:52.360 to going to a Super Bowl with San Francisco losing 0:48:53.360 --> 0:48:57.240 so building that organization to then finally going to Denver 0:48:57.320 --> 0:49:01.760 and winning a Super Bowl. You felt the transition of everything. 0:49:02.080 --> 0:49:05.280 What's that feeling like to go from someone that literally 0:49:05.800 --> 0:49:10.400 praying to God week nine, guys, you're setting up golf trips. 0:49:10.760 --> 0:49:13.840 You know you guys, it's it's over to playing in 0:49:13.880 --> 0:49:15.040 the last goddamn game the year. 0:49:15.080 --> 0:49:17.400 Well, it was it was similar. There was some similar Uh. 0:49:18.880 --> 0:49:20.480 That team was very similar to the team that we 0:49:20.480 --> 0:49:22.720 had when we played in Super Bowl forty seven. Yeah, 0:49:22.760 --> 0:49:26.160 it was a lot of similarities and the same energy 0:49:26.239 --> 0:49:27.880 was there. So I already seen it. I knew what 0:49:27.920 --> 0:49:30.240 it looked like, and I knew what it was because 0:49:30.239 --> 0:49:32.239 I played on that kind of team before. It was 0:49:32.360 --> 0:49:36.000 just awesome to be able to be trade bittersweet, but 0:49:36.880 --> 0:49:39.680 to get traded to that to a team and walk 0:49:39.719 --> 0:49:41.319 into a team and then come back to that same 0:49:41.320 --> 0:49:43.480 stadium where I just left and won a super Bowl 0:49:43.680 --> 0:49:45.359 was unbelievable. 0:49:45.440 --> 0:49:46.799 It was surreal to me, but. 0:49:47.280 --> 0:49:49.080 It was I saw it and I felt it was 0:49:49.080 --> 0:49:50.719 the same energy and that that was the kind of 0:49:50.760 --> 0:49:54.040 attitude the guys walking. They walk into that facility every 0:49:54.120 --> 0:49:58.000 single day with the winning attitude. And how you know 0:49:58.000 --> 0:49:59.880 it's a winning attitude because everybody to win that chip 0:50:00.120 --> 0:50:04.200 day about to hit everybody from the markets where to 0:50:04.280 --> 0:50:06.440 Manuel Sanders, we about to win that hip today. Already, 0:50:06.640 --> 0:50:10.279 guys were excited to go to practice. That's how you 0:50:10.360 --> 0:50:12.480 know you're on a championship team. When guy's excited to 0:50:12.520 --> 0:50:13.200 go to practice. 0:50:13.200 --> 0:50:15.640 Man, that's championship talking about practice. 0:50:15.760 --> 0:50:18.760 That sounded like Ivan Iverson. Now, Allen Iverson, I sounded 0:50:18.760 --> 0:50:20.759 like AI. We're talking about practice. 0:50:21.200 --> 0:50:22.760 Guys were excited to go to practice. 0:50:22.800 --> 0:50:24.520 But I've been on teams with guys coming in the morning, 0:50:25.800 --> 0:50:28.400 shoulders hunched over, looking like they were about to have 0:50:28.440 --> 0:50:30.160 the worst day of their life, like they're not excited 0:50:30.160 --> 0:50:32.880 to be there, be there. And I took that energy 0:50:32.920 --> 0:50:35.200 with me to that when I went, when I left 0:50:35.440 --> 0:50:39.680 forty nine ers and I left the Denver Denver Broncos, 0:50:40.200 --> 0:50:43.480 I took that energy everybody, everybody that saw me. I 0:50:43.480 --> 0:50:45.440 always had a smile on my face, and I was 0:50:45.760 --> 0:50:47.120 seemed as if I was ready to go. 0:50:47.360 --> 0:50:47.960 And I was. 0:50:48.360 --> 0:50:50.400 Every day I went to practice, I was ready. I 0:50:50.480 --> 0:50:54.080 was excited to go to practice. I was excited. Man, 0:50:54.880 --> 0:50:57.799 it felt so good to just be in practice. I 0:50:57.920 --> 0:51:00.160 never set out of a training camp fourteen years, never 0:51:00.200 --> 0:51:01.359 been set out of training camp. 0:51:02.400 --> 0:51:03.600 I never missed a practice. 0:51:03.760 --> 0:51:06.960 Whenever I went, like, I made sure that I was 0:51:07.000 --> 0:51:09.480 getting those reps because it felt good to run. 0:51:09.920 --> 0:51:11.160 Let's get out there and just run. 0:51:11.680 --> 0:51:14.960 You got y'all cooped up in the building all day 0:51:15.000 --> 0:51:18.440 with all these damn installs. Walk through this that you're 0:51:18.480 --> 0:51:21.080 only outside on the field for three hours day exactly. 0:51:21.960 --> 0:51:25.600 We're still a little kids at heart. Man, Run that's right, 0:51:25.960 --> 0:51:27.319 get on the field. Run that's right. 0:51:28.120 --> 0:51:30.000 I'd love to hear. I know that Super Bowl fifty 0:51:30.040 --> 0:51:32.560 is paint mantings. Last game you're in the locker room 0:51:32.600 --> 0:51:35.000 you won. Is there anything can you talk about us? 0:51:35.000 --> 0:51:36.560 About the locker room after the Super Bowl win? 0:51:36.920 --> 0:51:40.640 After the Super Bowl win, it just went over my head. 0:51:41.280 --> 0:51:44.440 It was just so much excitement and you know this, 0:51:45.080 --> 0:51:49.040 that's just man. It's like we worked so hard. This 0:51:49.120 --> 0:51:52.400 is that moment is what we play for. And to 0:51:52.560 --> 0:51:55.480 go through so many ups and downs, the ebb and 0:51:55.480 --> 0:51:57.880 flows of those games. I mean, there's there's games that 0:51:57.920 --> 0:52:00.200 you expected to win that maybe you didn't win, or 0:52:00.600 --> 0:52:03.560 you just standing there on the sideline holding your brother's 0:52:03.560 --> 0:52:06.560 hand and crossing your fingers because you know how important 0:52:06.560 --> 0:52:07.920 that game is and you have to win it if 0:52:07.960 --> 0:52:10.799 you're gonna make it to the championship. And just thinking 0:52:10.840 --> 0:52:12.560 about all that, all the sweat you put into it, 0:52:12.640 --> 0:52:14.960 and you start to think about when you were in 0:52:15.040 --> 0:52:17.480 high school in college and I get a chance to 0:52:17.520 --> 0:52:21.000 play in the biggest game there is and do it 0:52:21.040 --> 0:52:22.600 over and over and over like you had a chance 0:52:22.640 --> 0:52:22.839 to do. 0:52:23.680 --> 0:52:25.200 Man, there's no better feeling than that. 0:52:25.760 --> 0:52:28.799 Everything that you get, all the accolades and the opportunities 0:52:28.800 --> 0:52:30.560 you get after football, you deserve. 0:52:30.280 --> 0:52:35.600 It because you work so hard. Man, You work so 0:52:35.719 --> 0:52:37.160 hard to be where you are. 0:52:38.400 --> 0:52:42.239 You deserve everything because it's it's you know what I mean, 0:52:42.239 --> 0:52:44.240 it's guys like to kill spikes, to play for years 0:52:45.120 --> 0:52:47.000 and never get a chance to win the Super Bowl. 0:52:47.280 --> 0:52:47.680 Yeah. 0:52:48.280 --> 0:52:52.279 I result was after the game. I was exhausted. It's 0:52:52.320 --> 0:52:55.840 like it's the first time you can relax in a 0:52:55.880 --> 0:53:00.000 long time. Like as soon as you sit at your locker, 0:53:00.960 --> 0:53:03.880 there's no thinking about next week, how your body is feeling, 0:53:04.719 --> 0:53:08.359 there's no more practice for a while. You sit and 0:53:08.360 --> 0:53:10.920 you look at all the staff you go give all 0:53:10.920 --> 0:53:13.440 they're all excited, like all the people that help you 0:53:13.440 --> 0:53:16.280 get to where you're at, the training staff, the equipment staff, 0:53:16.760 --> 0:53:18.800 you know, the guys that are doing your freaking laundry, 0:53:18.880 --> 0:53:22.839 Like everyone's in there and just everyone's just like, we 0:53:22.880 --> 0:53:25.000 can we can we can relax. 0:53:25.200 --> 0:53:27.319 We can relax. We could take off for a month 0:53:27.320 --> 0:53:29.759 and not do anything. Yeah. No, but it's like no 0:53:29.880 --> 0:53:32.640 day is pepperoni on it. 0:53:32.920 --> 0:53:36.880 Yeah, but it was like the ultimate, like oh it 0:53:36.920 --> 0:53:39.279 was just then there's like but that's like almost the 0:53:39.320 --> 0:53:42.480 best thing in the feeling in the world because when 0:53:42.520 --> 0:53:44.879 you don't have to think about anything and you can 0:53:45.040 --> 0:53:47.920 just sit down and just say the job is. 0:53:47.880 --> 0:53:51.240 Done, the job is finished. 0:53:51.400 --> 0:53:54.600 Job, and you could just sit back and you know, 0:53:54.880 --> 0:53:57.760 you can have a drink tonight because you ain't playing 0:53:57.840 --> 0:53:58.399 next week. 0:53:58.640 --> 0:53:59.200 You know what I mean? 0:54:00.040 --> 0:54:01.719 In that parade, you. 0:54:04.320 --> 0:54:07.480 Know the snowboard, you can do something. Yeah, yeah, that's 0:54:07.520 --> 0:54:09.080 that's that's yeah, that's it. 0:54:09.560 --> 0:54:12.320 Yeah all right, Jackie set the stage for the Seattle 0:54:12.560 --> 0:54:15.160 I was talking about these eight Seahawks, a bit of 0:54:15.200 --> 0:54:17.400 a regression year for a team that had won the 0:54:17.440 --> 0:54:20.439 division four straight years, only a couple of years coming 0:54:20.440 --> 0:54:23.400 off of Super Bowl that when they lost to Pittsburgh. 0:54:23.520 --> 0:54:27.040 Shawn Alexander released before the season. Team went four and twelve. 0:54:27.239 --> 0:54:29.520 This was the last season of the Mike Holmegren era. 0:54:29.680 --> 0:54:32.640 They're probably they're eating that cap for Shawn Alexander. I 0:54:32.680 --> 0:54:34.480 bet they probably didn't have any money because he got 0:54:34.480 --> 0:54:35.240 a big contract. 0:54:35.320 --> 0:54:38.200 Like remember he was on the mad cover. That was man. 0:54:38.239 --> 0:54:43.600 He was him, He was a god man. He big fast, 0:54:44.120 --> 0:54:46.840 went to the went to Washington, and uh just played 0:54:46.840 --> 0:54:47.359 one more year. 0:54:47.360 --> 0:54:49.080 This this was his last year in the NFL too. 0:54:50.239 --> 0:54:54.480 An injury plagued season. Hasselbeck heard a tweaked the disc 0:54:54.560 --> 0:54:57.080 in his back. Then his knee then had a helmet 0:54:57.080 --> 0:54:59.279 to helmet hit. So he was dealing with with all 0:54:59.320 --> 0:55:01.120 sorts of things. He was out most of the season. 0:55:01.800 --> 0:55:06.280 Charlie fry boy, room your boy, baby, Charlie fry Frye, 0:55:06.280 --> 0:55:06.719 what's up? 0:55:06.760 --> 0:55:09.480 Hass did Charlie Frye went to Acro and he went 0:55:09.520 --> 0:55:12.719 to my rival and he was, like I was. I 0:55:12.719 --> 0:55:17.680 played quarterback in college and when I changed positions, Charlie 0:55:17.680 --> 0:55:20.279 fry took me under his wing and like would throw 0:55:20.320 --> 0:55:21.880 to me. He was and he was playing for fucking 0:55:21.920 --> 0:55:22.799 the Seahawks this year. 0:55:22.920 --> 0:55:24.000 Crazy, you know what I mean. 0:55:24.000 --> 0:55:28.319 He would throw to me at Arrivals school, you know, 0:55:28.400 --> 0:55:29.200 and he was fucking. 0:55:29.280 --> 0:55:31.280 He was awesome. Florida. 0:55:31.440 --> 0:55:34.239 He's at Florida Atlantic Atlantic, the o C and quarterbacks 0:55:34.239 --> 0:55:37.480 go f a baby, let's go bringing the boom down there. 0:55:37.520 --> 0:55:38.319 I love it. Uh. 0:55:38.640 --> 0:55:41.120 This was a team that also had the likes of 0:55:41.120 --> 0:55:42.520 Seneca Wallace. What a cool dude. 0:55:42.560 --> 0:55:44.480 He was the same agent. 0:55:48.840 --> 0:55:51.480 Dion, Baby, you know what's up? 0:55:51.520 --> 0:55:54.280 Dirty? It's all you say, what's up dirty? 0:55:55.160 --> 0:55:59.640 You got Josh criz To saying young and Deon Branch 0:55:59.680 --> 0:56:01.040 we say, what was that was that? 0:56:01.080 --> 0:56:02.319 Dirty? I like mixing it up. 0:56:02.320 --> 0:56:05.160 Maybe this isn't bud, this isn't cheats. 0:56:05.760 --> 0:56:09.400 It's hilarious, man, oh goodness. 0:56:09.480 --> 0:56:12.680 Oh man, Uh but yeah this uh snap that that 0:56:13.040 --> 0:56:17.040 division win streaking miss the playoffs this year. Then let's 0:56:17.040 --> 0:56:20.200 talk about these eight nine ers. Let's go seven and nine. 0:56:20.560 --> 0:56:25.160 This was Mike Nolan singletary leading them. Nolan was fired 0:56:25.160 --> 0:56:29.040 after week seven. Unfortunately, Mike Martz was was leading that 0:56:29.080 --> 0:56:29.959 offense as the OC. 0:56:30.360 --> 0:56:31.799 Let me cut you off real quick, because we were 0:56:31.800 --> 0:56:33.760 talking about this a lot. Mike Nolan wore the suit 0:56:33.800 --> 0:56:36.480 on the sideline this year. What's your take on the 0:56:36.600 --> 0:56:37.920 head coach wearing a suit? 0:56:37.719 --> 0:56:39.719 But what are the guys saying in the locker room. 0:56:40.120 --> 0:56:43.040 I don't Yeah, I know that I wouldn't necessarily think 0:56:43.080 --> 0:56:45.960 that a head coach would have to wear a suit 0:56:46.040 --> 0:56:48.600 on the sideline. I just don't think it's it's needed 0:56:49.320 --> 0:56:52.040 because you want to be comfortable out there. 0:56:51.880 --> 0:56:55.960 Calling plays, you're moving around. It's just that it's unnecessary. 0:56:56.200 --> 0:56:58.279 I'm with you. I like it. I like it. 0:56:58.360 --> 0:57:01.400 I like the shirt and tie under sweater. Mike Dicker, 0:57:01.560 --> 0:57:02.520 Jim Tressel. 0:57:02.400 --> 0:57:06.200 Yeah, it was fucking sorry. 0:57:06.200 --> 0:57:07.799 We're just talking about all week prepping for this. 0:57:09.400 --> 0:57:09.759 Over here. 0:57:09.840 --> 0:57:12.759 Give me some monarchs and a baggy polo, baby, that's 0:57:12.800 --> 0:57:13.640 all a coach needs. 0:57:13.680 --> 0:57:14.080 Baby. 0:57:14.400 --> 0:57:17.680 Uh, this was still the stick man playing a candlestick. 0:57:17.200 --> 0:57:18.880 Like I never got to play there, and I wanted to. 0:57:19.080 --> 0:57:20.880 I grew up going to that stick And. 0:57:20.920 --> 0:57:23.400 Was it like playing? It was a shithold. I love. 0:57:24.280 --> 0:57:25.200 It was like the grass. 0:57:26.320 --> 0:57:28.960 The grass wasn't great. I heard it was. Danny Amondola 0:57:28.960 --> 0:57:31.000 always said the grass was great. No, I thought the 0:57:31.000 --> 0:57:31.920 grass was awful. 0:57:32.160 --> 0:57:35.520 Was it? Yeah, the grass was awful. 0:57:35.600 --> 0:57:37.200 Danny is light on his feet. You can see on 0:57:37.320 --> 0:57:38.760 dancing stirs every Wednesday. 0:57:39.200 --> 0:57:41.400 I know Danny is dancing light on his feet in 0:57:41.480 --> 0:57:46.280 that Uh that there's But it's nothing like driving into candlestick. 0:57:47.200 --> 0:57:49.440 That's the one thing. I grew up a Niners fan 0:57:49.520 --> 0:57:51.840 when they went to Santa Clara. You're not in the city, 0:57:51.960 --> 0:57:55.480 like when you're going up in the candlestick. The FOG's 0:57:55.560 --> 0:57:58.600 right there, you're right on the water. You got Hunter's 0:57:58.640 --> 0:58:01.960 Point right there. I mean, it's just like you're coming 0:58:02.000 --> 0:58:04.440 into our house. Like I feel like you lost that 0:58:04.480 --> 0:58:07.000 when you're driving into the freaking the driving lot of 0:58:07.120 --> 0:58:08.120 Great America Park. 0:58:08.840 --> 0:58:11.160 Yeah, it's not the same. It's not the same. It's 0:58:11.200 --> 0:58:11.680 not the same. 0:58:11.960 --> 0:58:14.439 And the weather was always kind of a thing. 0:58:14.640 --> 0:58:15.560 It's totally different. 0:58:16.200 --> 0:58:19.240 It's like hot, yeah, hot in Santa Clara. 0:58:19.520 --> 0:58:21.920 I'm'll tell you the truth. I'd rather stay in Candlestick. 0:58:22.320 --> 0:58:25.320 The truth. Just the tradition, man, you take away the 0:58:25.360 --> 0:58:28.040 tradition with Jerry Rice, Joe, Montana and all those guys, 0:58:28.040 --> 0:58:30.720 just the history, those Super Bowl wins that they stacked up. 0:58:30.960 --> 0:58:33.600 It all happened from there. That was the foundation, that 0:58:33.720 --> 0:58:36.560 was their home. So it was as I'm coming in, 0:58:36.600 --> 0:58:38.640 I'm getting drafted, I'm like, I'm looking around. 0:58:38.440 --> 0:58:43.240 Like, Wow, this is crazy, this is weird. It all happened. Wow, 0:58:44.160 --> 0:58:46.760 it's amazing. But now I can't do the same. I 0:58:46.800 --> 0:58:47.320 can't really. 0:58:47.440 --> 0:58:49.080 I don't really have that feeling when I go into 0:58:49.160 --> 0:58:51.479 when I walk into leave stadium. 0:58:51.720 --> 0:58:51.959 Damn. 0:58:52.280 --> 0:58:54.840 How much were the Forignite, the vets, like Montana, Steve 0:58:54.920 --> 0:58:56.920 Young around the organization when you were there. 0:58:57.320 --> 0:58:59.960 They didn't come around much. I didn't see him much. Yeah, 0:59:00.360 --> 0:59:02.240 I didn't see him much. I think a lot of 0:59:02.240 --> 0:59:05.560 times with these organizations, with the older guys, I think 0:59:06.080 --> 0:59:09.640 sometimes they can feel underappreciated because they're not getting paid. 0:59:09.640 --> 0:59:09.840 You know. 0:59:10.000 --> 0:59:11.720 Most of the time these organizations, they want to give 0:59:11.760 --> 0:59:14.280 you three to five thousand dollars to come show up 0:59:14.320 --> 0:59:16.960 and a lot of guys they have a lot of 0:59:17.000 --> 0:59:20.160 stuff going on, so they rather allocate their time to 0:59:20.200 --> 0:59:21.280 the kids and their. 0:59:21.480 --> 0:59:22.919 Business, you know what I mean. 0:59:23.040 --> 0:59:26.040 So it has to make sense, y'a setting on meetings, 0:59:26.680 --> 0:59:28.640 know whether it's with the commanders or forty nine ers, 0:59:28.640 --> 0:59:30.880 and you know, they bring in the alumnis and. 0:59:31.200 --> 0:59:32.600 They ask them, they say, hey, guys, what do we 0:59:32.640 --> 0:59:33.520 need to do differently? 0:59:33.960 --> 0:59:37.480 And the legends they get a chance to it's what 0:59:37.520 --> 0:59:40.720 they call them down legends. They get a chance to 0:59:40.720 --> 0:59:44.680 force their opinion. And that's what that's usually the case. 0:59:44.960 --> 0:59:47.440 If you don't see guys. Now now that I know that, 0:59:47.520 --> 0:59:48.760 I can look back and I'll be like, Okay, I 0:59:48.800 --> 0:59:50.960 see why Joe and Jerry wasn't there. 0:59:51.440 --> 0:59:53.200 It didn't makes sense. It didn't make sense for them. 0:59:53.240 --> 0:59:54.560 Probably, Yeah, I get that. 0:59:55.080 --> 0:59:57.760 What were the what was this early stage year career 0:59:57.840 --> 0:59:58.840 niners teams like. 1:00:00.480 --> 1:00:05.760 Stressful? A lot of frustration. 1:00:06.760 --> 1:00:08.880 Yeah, like we talked about when you're not winning and 1:00:09.320 --> 1:00:11.080 you know, being a young guy, you have to learn 1:00:11.200 --> 1:00:14.840 how to be a leader and and uh but it 1:00:14.880 --> 1:00:18.840 was you know, you find some you just you just 1:00:19.000 --> 1:00:21.960 it's a learning curve for sure. Definitely, definitely a lot 1:00:21.960 --> 1:00:24.400 of learning. Yeah, but when you but it's good that 1:00:24.440 --> 1:00:27.800 you go through this when you when you lose, you 1:00:27.840 --> 1:00:30.200 know how grad it feels when you win. Yeah, And 1:00:30.240 --> 1:00:32.640 that can be in college or high school whatever. I mean, 1:00:32.680 --> 1:00:34.800 you don't have to. I mean, you guys had You've 1:00:34.840 --> 1:00:36.480 had moments. Even though you guys want a lot, you 1:00:36.480 --> 1:00:39.360 still have moments where you where it didn't work out 1:00:39.400 --> 1:00:41.959 for you, a lot of them. You see what I'm saying. 1:00:42.040 --> 1:00:45.600 Yeah, so you appreciate that it only worked out three times? Yeah, exactly, 1:00:46.080 --> 1:00:48.640 So you appreciate that, yeah, without a doubt. And that's 1:00:48.760 --> 1:00:52.280 I would say that Detroit Lions are in an example 1:00:52.320 --> 1:00:56.240 of that right now with they appreciate their winning because 1:00:56.280 --> 1:00:59.520 they still remember their losing. You know, they're a tough 1:00:59.520 --> 1:01:01.840 football team that don't give up. You know. It's just 1:01:01.920 --> 1:01:05.880 it's it kind of reminds me of that. How is 1:01:05.920 --> 1:01:09.160 Alex Smith? Tell you something that no one knows about 1:01:09.200 --> 1:01:09.840 Alex Smith. 1:01:11.240 --> 1:01:15.160 Alex Smith was man. He was just such. 1:01:16.840 --> 1:01:25.200 An amazing human being, very just loving, great teammate, beautiful family, 1:01:25.440 --> 1:01:28.840 comes from a great family. I think they're from San Diego, 1:01:29.200 --> 1:01:33.480 I believe. But he knew everything. He knew everything everyone 1:01:33.560 --> 1:01:36.040 had like it was when I first came in into 1:01:36.080 --> 1:01:39.240 the league. I didn't know what I had on my brouse. 1:01:39.240 --> 1:01:43.880 I would just look up. He just telled me right 1:01:43.880 --> 1:01:46.480 there to tell me. Yeah, it's just yeah, it was 1:01:47.120 --> 1:01:49.080 you know, it's tough. I mean, you go from college 1:01:49.120 --> 1:01:53.720 and coming in learning an offense like north Turner's playbook 1:01:54.760 --> 1:01:58.920 had he had an interesting playbook, man, but the way 1:01:58.920 --> 1:02:02.360 he called plays, uh, it's just yeah. 1:02:02.360 --> 1:02:03.920 But Alex was great. He was always there for me. 1:02:04.240 --> 1:02:05.560 He was always there. Yeah. 1:02:05.760 --> 1:02:08.600 He seems like he'd be a really good teammate, great teammate, 1:02:08.760 --> 1:02:10.200 great leader, great teammate. 1:02:10.440 --> 1:02:12.880 And he was tough man. Yeah, he was. Can you 1:02:12.920 --> 1:02:14.360 imagine going through what he went through. 1:02:14.440 --> 1:02:18.840 Yeah, he got baptized in that league for a long time. 1:02:18.960 --> 1:02:22.200 Yes, even even when he got it when he was 1:02:22.320 --> 1:02:23.600 he suffered from a concussion. 1:02:25.200 --> 1:02:26.680 Collins Kapernick steps in. 1:02:27.360 --> 1:02:33.280 Alex has to stand there and watch what he started right, 1:02:33.440 --> 1:02:35.720 even on the on the sidelines of the Super Bowl, 1:02:36.600 --> 1:02:37.920 That's that's tough man. 1:02:37.960 --> 1:02:40.120 Handled it right, though, handle he handled like a pro. 1:02:40.200 --> 1:02:42.040 That's what I'm saying. He's from the outside end. 1:02:43.200 --> 1:02:45.560 Looking from the outside, he looked like he handled it 1:02:45.600 --> 1:02:46.040 like a pro. 1:02:46.120 --> 1:02:47.520 And look what he did when he left us and 1:02:47.560 --> 1:02:48.320 went to Kansas City. 1:02:48.440 --> 1:02:52.080 Yeah, he had a really good, really good career. He's 1:02:52.120 --> 1:02:56.280 the nice guy. Who are the team assholes? Like from 1:02:56.320 --> 1:02:58.800 this team, like who was the ass like the necessity 1:02:58.800 --> 1:03:02.280 asss kind of in the asshole that kind of keeps 1:03:02.320 --> 1:03:06.080 everyone accountable, that works really hard, the richie incognito kind of. 1:03:06.040 --> 1:03:11.560 A typeole everybody kept everybody in lying. Brian Johnson, Uh no, 1:03:12.120 --> 1:03:16.440 I'm about to say. Sean Hill was one of those guys. 1:03:16.480 --> 1:03:19.160 Sean Hill he would always you know, he would always 1:03:19.160 --> 1:03:19.480 get on. 1:03:19.440 --> 1:03:21.120 Guys if he needs to. He's an Maryland guy too, 1:03:22.120 --> 1:03:25.600 Maryland got Yeah, he was. He was awesome. Isaac Bruce 1:03:25.680 --> 1:03:28.000 was really quiet. He didn't say much. 1:03:28.520 --> 1:03:30.959 He's probably the old Vet. Then the old Vet. 1:03:31.440 --> 1:03:36.000 He was old Vet to kill spikes with voices, opinions everything. 1:03:36.920 --> 1:03:40.440 Jeff Aubrey coach now Coachet. 1:03:45.280 --> 1:03:47.040 He was one of those guys who would always voice 1:03:47.040 --> 1:03:50.320 his opinion. I was Obrick Albrick was cool man. I 1:03:50.360 --> 1:03:53.960 had a great relationship with Albrick. He was he was, 1:03:54.080 --> 1:03:56.520 he was cool. He was really he was a great 1:03:56.600 --> 1:03:58.560 like you know, a young guy coming in. He he 1:03:58.680 --> 1:04:01.000 takes you under his wing and kind I talked to you, 1:04:01.040 --> 1:04:03.640 we have we have great conversations. 1:04:04.040 --> 1:04:05.800 But he was He's one of the nicest guys on 1:04:05.840 --> 1:04:06.400 the team. 1:04:06.680 --> 1:04:09.360 Now, could you see that he he had head coaching 1:04:09.400 --> 1:04:10.160 material in him. 1:04:10.200 --> 1:04:14.600 Never never Why, I don't know, I just didn't. I 1:04:14.600 --> 1:04:17.280 could never see him as a head coach. Yeah, I 1:04:17.320 --> 1:04:21.120 mean he looked pretty old when I came in. Yeah, 1:04:21.120 --> 1:04:22.600 the Mohawk back then, it looked like he was in 1:04:22.680 --> 1:04:23.439 year twenty five. 1:04:23.520 --> 1:04:27.479 Man, but he's really only thirty six, right, thirty five 1:04:27.600 --> 1:04:32.040 thirty six. But uh, but I never saw him being 1:04:32.080 --> 1:04:34.720 a head coach. No, yeah, that's crazy. Now. 1:04:35.200 --> 1:04:38.560 One of my favorite football players. I loved Frank Orr. 1:04:39.680 --> 1:04:42.600 He was probably just an ultimate professional, wasn't he. 1:04:42.440 --> 1:04:46.200 Come on that long? Oh, come on, don't come on. 1:04:51.320 --> 1:04:53.240 Frank was great, man. He's to get on me all 1:04:53.280 --> 1:04:54.840 the time. He's he didn't get it. 1:04:54.880 --> 1:04:57.480 He wouldn't say much to the team only if he 1:04:57.560 --> 1:04:59.680 had to, but he would get on me all the time. 1:05:05.320 --> 1:05:05.560 Shout. 1:05:05.600 --> 1:05:09.080 Oh, yeah, he was. 1:05:09.400 --> 1:05:10.400 That's my brother, man. 1:05:10.440 --> 1:05:13.240 He's he's like one of the best human beings you 1:05:13.280 --> 1:05:15.600 could ever would ever meet. Man like he was just 1:05:15.680 --> 1:05:19.800 he was phenomenal. Frank, Yeah, ultimate teammate. 1:05:20.520 --> 1:05:20.920 I loved. 1:05:21.040 --> 1:05:23.280 I've met him a few times. I asked him to 1:05:23.320 --> 1:05:26.440 sign a jersey for me once. He's said, he's a 1:05:26.480 --> 1:05:29.360 fucking he's a bullying ball and he did it for 1:05:29.400 --> 1:05:30.720 like eighteen years. 1:05:30.760 --> 1:05:35.400 What do you have a sixteen seventeen year career San Francisco, Indie, Miami, Buffalo, 1:05:35.520 --> 1:05:37.680 New York. I mean he was like thirty five and 1:05:37.720 --> 1:05:41.360 getting like a thousand yards incredible. Yeah, his sons, sons, 1:05:41.520 --> 1:05:43.200 I know his son's others right now. 1:05:43.360 --> 1:05:45.360 He could have been Lebron one of the best running 1:05:45.400 --> 1:05:49.280 backs of all time, legend bro without a doubt. 1:05:49.520 --> 1:05:51.680 We got to talk about the catch three. What's that 1:05:52.440 --> 1:05:55.600 was like an unbelievable drive. He had like three huge 1:05:55.600 --> 1:05:59.000 catches on that drive that was eleven. 1:05:59.240 --> 1:06:01.160 Yeah, that was That was a game to remember. That 1:06:01.240 --> 1:06:02.280 was a tough game, man. 1:06:02.560 --> 1:06:06.000 Yeah, Jimmy Graham scoring and us coming back having to 1:06:06.000 --> 1:06:09.320 put up some points and that drive we had it 1:06:09.360 --> 1:06:11.040 was it was It was awesome. 1:06:11.080 --> 1:06:14.200 I remember, I remember everybody played that game. They brought it. 1:06:14.680 --> 1:06:19.320 I mean, you're talking about a team that believed. That 1:06:19.400 --> 1:06:24.640 team believed, man, because I look back now and just 1:06:24.800 --> 1:06:27.560 I just can't believe we pulled that game off. 1:06:27.800 --> 1:06:33.640 Yeah, we're talking about the twenty eleven Saints game, Divisional. 1:06:33.320 --> 1:06:35.360 Round twenty eleven division run NFC. 1:06:35.480 --> 1:06:40.040 Yeah that Vernon had a middle reed split, the safety 1:06:40.160 --> 1:06:43.040 score a touchdown with time running out nine seconds left, 1:06:43.280 --> 1:06:44.400 nine seconds left. 1:06:44.840 --> 1:06:45.600 Very similar. 1:06:45.960 --> 1:06:48.440 They called the catch threes is the catch to the 1:06:48.440 --> 1:06:51.480 t O CATCHO, and the catch one is Dwight Clark 1:06:51.760 --> 1:06:57.640 right man, San Francisco legend. That's got to be sick 1:06:57.720 --> 1:06:58.440 to have a catch. 1:06:58.680 --> 1:07:01.800 Yeah, that's cool. You have a catch. We gotta catch, 1:07:02.880 --> 1:07:03.600 we gotta catch. 1:07:04.680 --> 1:07:07.160 I catch on this team too? 1:07:07.480 --> 1:07:11.240 How was Isaac very quiet? Quiet? Came to work? 1:07:11.280 --> 1:07:13.160 Man, he was very was that because he was in 1:07:13.240 --> 1:07:14.480 a division rival? 1:07:14.680 --> 1:07:16.360 I don't know. He was just he didn't say much. 1:07:16.400 --> 1:07:18.800 I never heard him say anything. Yeah, he never even 1:07:18.960 --> 1:07:26.720 I never heard him say hi, you say so? That's 1:07:26.760 --> 1:07:29.880 just I love that. Yeah, he did, didn't say much. 1:07:30.000 --> 1:07:30.840 He just came to work. 1:07:31.160 --> 1:07:34.280 Who is the who is the character on this team? 1:07:34.880 --> 1:07:35.880 Character? Yeah? 1:07:36.080 --> 1:07:38.720 Who's the funny guy that was making him scene? 1:07:38.800 --> 1:07:39.520 Right here? Yeah? 1:07:40.240 --> 1:07:41.920 Man, I'm gonna have to go with the guy Thomas 1:07:41.960 --> 1:07:42.680 Clayton right there? 1:07:42.680 --> 1:07:45.800 Man running back? Why what would he do? That was funny? 1:07:46.760 --> 1:07:50.560 This dude was unbelievable man with the funniest thing he did. 1:07:50.640 --> 1:07:51.800 Yeah, you really want to know? 1:07:53.320 --> 1:07:56.280 Oh my goodness, this dude goes to the head coach's 1:07:56.280 --> 1:07:57.600 house and picks up his daughter. 1:07:57.760 --> 1:08:01.720 Oh, for a date? I said, did you go in so? 1:08:01.880 --> 1:08:02.080 Yeah? 1:08:02.120 --> 1:08:04.800 Yes, I said, Hey coach. He looked at me, say 1:08:06.120 --> 1:08:09.960 I said what I said, dude, You mean to tell 1:08:09.960 --> 1:08:11.720 me you want to take his dog on a date? 1:08:11.760 --> 1:08:13.400 If you went to the house to pick her up? 1:08:14.040 --> 1:08:15.320 You know what you just did. 1:08:15.760 --> 1:08:18.040 Come on, man, yeah, if he did it right, he 1:08:18.120 --> 1:08:21.320 set himself up for a little insurance, he cut. 1:08:23.840 --> 1:08:27.559 Oh my gosh, what are we doing? Bro? Bro? What 1:08:27.600 --> 1:08:28.720 are you doing? Bro? 1:08:28.800 --> 1:08:31.720 This is the craziest, funniest guy I ever met in 1:08:31.760 --> 1:08:32.400 my life. 1:08:33.200 --> 1:08:35.120 Oh, I love that move, bro. He wore the same 1:08:35.160 --> 1:08:36.439 outfit every time. 1:08:36.680 --> 1:08:38.599 Full cartoon character Mude Full cartoon. 1:08:38.800 --> 1:08:39.639 I love that. 1:08:40.160 --> 1:08:42.599 Cowboy boots jeans with a chain aroun on the side 1:08:42.640 --> 1:08:43.280 of his pocket. 1:08:43.320 --> 1:08:45.840 Wo, that's a lot to cut off. Button up. The 1:08:45.880 --> 1:08:49.880 show is on. Can you imagine this guy? This character 1:08:49.880 --> 1:08:52.360 in the movie kind of car like a truck. 1:08:53.040 --> 1:08:56.759 Oh, I think he had like a dosh charger hearer 1:08:56.920 --> 1:08:58.320 something red with a drop top. 1:08:58.760 --> 1:09:00.679 I can't remember, bro. 1:09:00.960 --> 1:09:03.880 I get wait while we're on the where we're talking 1:09:03.880 --> 1:09:06.960 to these guys. Vernon did uh I was looking at 1:09:06.960 --> 1:09:10.679 Takeo Spikes. Takio spikes. His neck has its own category 1:09:10.680 --> 1:09:13.679 in Wikipedia. His neck, his neck, my hamstring. It says 1:09:13.720 --> 1:09:16.439 it measures twenty one inches around. It's insane. 1:09:16.880 --> 1:09:19.639 Twenty one inch neck, twenty one What a beast? Remember 1:09:19.720 --> 1:09:23.320 that guy looks like a football player. That guy, he 1:09:23.439 --> 1:09:26.479 looks like a football player. It looks like a football player. 1:09:26.520 --> 1:09:27.040 Neck talk. 1:09:28.200 --> 1:09:29.920 If you want to pick somebody out of the crowd, 1:09:30.000 --> 1:09:31.120 it looks like a football player. 1:09:31.160 --> 1:09:34.200 Come on up here, Takio Spikes. You fit the description. 1:09:34.400 --> 1:09:37.479 What a beast, ma'am? Oh my gosh, all right, it's 1:09:37.760 --> 1:09:40.160 the game lead up. This was This was Mike Singletary's 1:09:40.160 --> 1:09:42.320 first game as a head coach. Mike Nolan had just 1:09:42.360 --> 1:09:46.600 gotten fired after the Giants lost the week before, and 1:09:46.640 --> 1:09:50.320 this was a backup quarterback showdown JT. O. Sullivan for 1:09:50.520 --> 1:09:53.800 Seneca Wallace and a rematch of the week two game 1:09:54.080 --> 1:09:56.080 where the forty nine ers won thirty three thirty and 1:09:56.120 --> 1:09:57.599 ot uh. 1:09:57.640 --> 1:09:59.280 Seattle had an early bye week this year. 1:09:59.280 --> 1:10:01.920 Week four, the Niners were getting ready to go on 1:10:01.960 --> 1:10:05.280 There's so this was one in five Seattle first two 1:10:05.360 --> 1:10:08.120 and five San Francisco two teams need to win. 1:10:08.160 --> 1:10:13.320 Baby, what's the mindset going into the game with a 1:10:13.360 --> 1:10:16.120 new coaching style? Like, what change? I've never been involved 1:10:16.160 --> 1:10:19.120 in that. What changes? Is there anything that damn changes? 1:10:19.160 --> 1:10:21.719 Because you guys have the same plays, probably the same coaching. 1:10:22.040 --> 1:10:27.160 What goes into a coaching change? How are the players 1:10:27.360 --> 1:10:28.080 during this thing? 1:10:28.439 --> 1:10:29.880 Well, depends on who the coach is. 1:10:30.320 --> 1:10:32.559 Yeah, you either pick your head up or put your 1:10:32.560 --> 1:10:37.200 head down, depends on who it is. Oh my gosh, 1:10:37.680 --> 1:10:41.240 it's it's a coaching changes. Like you feel you can 1:10:41.280 --> 1:10:44.800 feel the energy. It's like it's almost if it's it's 1:10:44.840 --> 1:10:49.200 like there's a there's a there's a love and respect 1:10:49.200 --> 1:10:51.280 that you have for the coaches leaving you kind of 1:10:51.280 --> 1:10:54.880 feel bad on Yeah, it's like, man, you created, you 1:10:54.920 --> 1:10:57.639 cultivate a relationship with the coach, and now that another 1:10:57.680 --> 1:11:00.600 coach has to come in, it's like, we don't know 1:11:00.640 --> 1:11:03.479 what's gonna happen with this coach just stepping in, because 1:11:03.479 --> 1:11:04.160 if he wasn't. 1:11:04.000 --> 1:11:05.639 A head coach, how can it be a head coach? Now? 1:11:06.240 --> 1:11:06.920 You know what I mean? 1:11:07.240 --> 1:11:09.599 We don't know what to expect that, we don't know 1:11:09.640 --> 1:11:12.760 what we're gonna get But we do know that if 1:11:12.760 --> 1:11:15.200 you're a football player and you someone who believes in 1:11:15.240 --> 1:11:17.840 this team and believes that we can win, you're going 1:11:17.920 --> 1:11:20.439 to rally behind this coach and you're gonna say, Okay, 1:11:20.920 --> 1:11:22.519 let's let's let's let's do this. 1:11:22.600 --> 1:11:24.200 Let's do it for this coach. We're gonna we're gonna 1:11:24.200 --> 1:11:27.200 get him, get him going. You know what I mean? 1:11:27.560 --> 1:11:31.320 Now, Singletary, first team meeting. 1:11:31.720 --> 1:11:34.920 What's that like? Is he just fucking it? I could? 1:11:34.960 --> 1:11:37.599 I can only imagine his tense. His eyeballs are fucking 1:11:37.880 --> 1:11:38.880 coming out of his eyes. 1:11:39.439 --> 1:11:42.840 No, he had everyone with respected coach Singletary. He had 1:11:42.840 --> 1:11:45.040 a lot. It was a lot of respect throughout that 1:11:45.080 --> 1:11:47.599 locker room for coach. But he's an intense guy. 1:11:47.640 --> 1:11:50.479 He's an intense guy. We we knew. We didn't know 1:11:50.520 --> 1:11:52.280 exactly what we're going to get out of him, but 1:11:52.320 --> 1:11:55.960 we knew he was. He was no nonsense. You had 1:11:55.960 --> 1:11:58.200 the every time you touch the field, you better be jogging, 1:11:58.800 --> 1:12:05.160 no walking. I mean, love it, love your teammates, selfless, everything, 1:12:05.600 --> 1:12:08.559 everything that you had to that he wanted out of. 1:12:08.600 --> 1:12:10.320 You had to be that on this team if you 1:12:10.320 --> 1:12:10.720 were going to. 1:12:10.720 --> 1:12:14.400 Stay now what's your mindset going into this this week 1:12:15.080 --> 1:12:20.679 of Seattle. Do you remember anything specific? I mean, coach 1:12:20.840 --> 1:12:26.120 just gets fired. Yeah, as one in five, first game 1:12:26.240 --> 1:12:31.559 with coach single Terry playing division rival. Also dogsho right now, 1:12:32.200 --> 1:12:35.280 Like what's going in to get you hyped up? Or like, 1:12:35.360 --> 1:12:36.880 do you know it's already going to be a bad 1:12:36.960 --> 1:12:39.400 Sunday going into this game. 1:12:40.439 --> 1:12:41.519 No, I was thinking it was going to be a 1:12:41.520 --> 1:12:42.040 great Sunday. 1:12:42.040 --> 1:12:45.920 I'm about to play with Sean Hill Maryland, my Maryland guy, 1:12:47.520 --> 1:12:49.760 and I felt like, you know, especially Seann and I 1:12:49.800 --> 1:12:52.000 we had a connection because we played on the same 1:12:52.360 --> 1:12:55.320 we're from the same school, and I know about him. 1:12:55.760 --> 1:12:58.479 I knew, I knew, I knew who he was. You know, 1:12:58.520 --> 1:13:01.599 he was a legend at Maryland. But but going into 1:13:01.600 --> 1:13:03.920 the game, I'm thinking we're going to win the game. Yeah, 1:13:04.000 --> 1:13:06.639 of course, I didn't think it wasna go to way 1:13:06.680 --> 1:13:11.599 it did. But took a hold three sixty on me. Yeah, 1:13:12.160 --> 1:13:13.800 to go three sixty, And a lot of it came 1:13:13.800 --> 1:13:16.519 from it. It was just frustration with me and not winning, 1:13:16.640 --> 1:13:19.240 losing the coach. I'm like, man, this this team, this 1:13:19.360 --> 1:13:22.439 season is it's not going the way we expected to go. 1:13:22.920 --> 1:13:25.280 We're still losing. I mean, we had to lose the 1:13:25.360 --> 1:13:28.880 season first year, second year. 1:13:29.920 --> 1:13:30.479 It's tough. 1:13:30.640 --> 1:13:35.120 Yeah, Jack, Yeah, Just to just highlight this game, a 1:13:35.120 --> 1:13:38.080 little bit bit of a slow start. Seattle gets up 1:13:38.120 --> 1:13:42.760 six nothing with two field goals. Then Seneca Wallace leads 1:13:42.760 --> 1:13:45.719 a long touchdown drive to get them up thirteen to nothing. 1:13:46.360 --> 1:13:48.920 Uh san Fran attacks on a field goal thirteen to three, 1:13:49.439 --> 1:13:52.400 which takes us to one of the the ten poll 1:13:52.479 --> 1:13:54.960 moments of this game, if you will. Forty four seconds 1:13:55.040 --> 1:13:58.000 left in the half, the Niners are driving to cut 1:13:58.000 --> 1:14:01.639 it to thirteen to ten. Sullivan throws a pick six, 1:14:02.479 --> 1:14:04.960 Josh Wilson returns at seventy five yards for a tuddy 1:14:05.520 --> 1:14:08.400 Vernon chases him down the length of the field, almost 1:14:08.400 --> 1:14:10.240 makes the tackle he gets. 1:14:10.000 --> 1:14:10.320 In the end. 1:14:10.360 --> 1:14:12.080 So they go up twenty to three at the half. 1:14:12.360 --> 1:14:13.800 And that was kind of the straw that broke the 1:14:13.800 --> 1:14:16.640 camel's back, if you will, for Mike Singletary talking to 1:14:16.640 --> 1:14:19.680 Mike Martz on the sideline and they pull him and 1:14:19.720 --> 1:14:21.120 go with Sean Hill in the second half. 1:14:21.760 --> 1:14:27.320 So halftime, what's the halftime like? Do you remember that? 1:14:27.720 --> 1:14:32.640 Do you remember this? Like that halftime? Yeah? Yeah, I 1:14:32.680 --> 1:14:33.720 remember pieces of it. 1:14:34.760 --> 1:14:40.360 Halftime was coach was just he was just looking at 1:14:40.439 --> 1:14:42.800 us with his eyes like you said, big eyes wide open, 1:14:43.600 --> 1:14:48.000 just like gosh, we gotta you know, He's like, we gotta. 1:14:47.760 --> 1:14:49.840 Stay in this thing. If we're going to win this, 1:14:50.120 --> 1:14:52.559 we need to play. We need to play harder. You 1:14:53.080 --> 1:14:53.760 we gotta do this. 1:14:53.880 --> 1:14:56.479 You know. He's just like, you know, just taking charge. 1:14:56.479 --> 1:14:56.920 It was good. 1:14:57.600 --> 1:14:58.760 That is a really good singletary. 1:14:58.960 --> 1:15:00.000 Yeah, he was just trying to win. 1:15:00.640 --> 1:15:03.400 I wanted to step in this thing and improve something 1:15:03.439 --> 1:15:04.160 to the organization. 1:15:04.960 --> 1:15:05.559 You guys, come. 1:15:05.479 --> 1:15:08.679 Out of halftime, yep, that's Sean Hill in there. Now, 1:15:08.800 --> 1:15:09.720 Sean Hill's in. 1:15:11.160 --> 1:15:14.439 And take us through the unsportsmanlike conduct penalty, because like, 1:15:15.280 --> 1:15:18.439 this whole thing kind of baffles me, because if you 1:15:18.439 --> 1:15:23.479 can get on your star for not putting the team first, 1:15:23.520 --> 1:15:28.720 for the you know, the whole uh penalty, he has 1:15:28.800 --> 1:15:30.880 to be doing a lot more than that for you 1:15:30.960 --> 1:15:33.640 to get on him like that. Like, because he just 1:15:34.280 --> 1:15:36.960 ran ninety six yards and almost chased the guy down, 1:15:37.040 --> 1:15:40.360 so he's showing you he's not quitting. So take us 1:15:40.400 --> 1:15:45.280 through this this unsportsman like conduct penalty and this whole thing. 1:15:46.320 --> 1:15:47.040 Yeah, it was. 1:15:47.560 --> 1:15:51.519 It was it wasn't. I feel like at the moment, 1:15:52.479 --> 1:15:56.080 just I'd say I was selfish and that selfless because 1:15:56.120 --> 1:15:56.400 I was. 1:15:56.439 --> 1:15:56.920 I was young. 1:15:57.479 --> 1:15:59.360 In my young mind, I'm thinking like, what is this guy? 1:15:59.600 --> 1:16:00.479 What's this guy doing? 1:16:00.479 --> 1:16:00.639 Who? 1:16:01.040 --> 1:16:03.760 If I'm talking to myself, who's this guy think he is? 1:16:04.479 --> 1:16:06.040 They brought me here to make plays and help this 1:16:06.080 --> 1:16:09.280 team win. I'm Vernon Davis. Why are you sending me 1:16:09.320 --> 1:16:11.080 to the locker room. I can help this team win. 1:16:11.800 --> 1:16:13.160 I don't need to go to the locker room. Who 1:16:13.160 --> 1:16:14.880 do you think you are? That's what I'm saying in 1:16:14.920 --> 1:16:17.280 my mind as a young young guy coming into the league. 1:16:17.320 --> 1:16:20.960 But now as I look back, that's the situation. Coach 1:16:21.040 --> 1:16:23.840 did me as solid. He did me a favor. Him 1:16:23.880 --> 1:16:28.920 being there was a blessing in disguise because I needed that. 1:16:29.080 --> 1:16:33.360 I needed to have that moment of being benched and 1:16:33.400 --> 1:16:35.519 going to the locker room. 1:16:36.000 --> 1:16:38.479 I made a bone here, mistake. I got a penalty. 1:16:38.479 --> 1:16:40.040 I hit a guy. I believe I hit the hit. 1:16:40.120 --> 1:16:42.000 I forgot forget who it was, but I hit him 1:16:42.040 --> 1:16:44.960 under on his chin strop and Coach benched me. That 1:16:45.120 --> 1:16:48.000 was just I think Coach knew me. He was He's been, 1:16:48.080 --> 1:16:50.120 he was there since I got drafted, so he knew 1:16:50.120 --> 1:16:52.400 how I was. He watched me. He was just tired 1:16:52.439 --> 1:16:56.840 of my foolishness, you know what I mean, wasting time 1:16:57.160 --> 1:16:58.040 getting penalized. 1:16:58.479 --> 1:17:00.280 You're young, You're still young in the head. Yeah. 1:17:00.280 --> 1:17:01.679 So I go to the locker room. I do exactly 1:17:01.720 --> 1:17:02.680 what he tell me to do. I go to the 1:17:02.720 --> 1:17:05.679 locker room, didn't say anything. He come to me, He said, 1:17:06.200 --> 1:17:09.559 come see me tomorrow, and I go see him after 1:17:09.560 --> 1:17:12.320 the game. I mean, I didn't I didn't know he 1:17:12.360 --> 1:17:14.480 was gonna do what he did on on television. 1:17:14.800 --> 1:17:17.120 I was at home laying in the bed with my 1:17:17.240 --> 1:17:24.920 kids mom watching TV. This pops up and I'm like, wow, Wow, 1:17:25.120 --> 1:17:26.400 what do you feel that time? 1:17:26.880 --> 1:17:29.599 I feel like I feel like he threw me under 1:17:29.640 --> 1:17:33.200 the bus. At the moment, I'm like, wow, why would 1:17:33.240 --> 1:17:35.920 he do this? Why would he do that? I was like, 1:17:35.960 --> 1:17:39.280 this guy is crazy. So I knew right away I 1:17:39.320 --> 1:17:42.760 was gonna walk into that facility tomorrow and it was 1:17:42.800 --> 1:17:46.000 gonna be I didn't know what was going to happen. 1:17:46.280 --> 1:17:47.679 Like you didn't know what happened. 1:17:47.720 --> 1:17:50.200 I was furious, but I was also I was furious, 1:17:50.479 --> 1:17:53.840 but I was also I was definitely afraid of coach 1:17:53.880 --> 1:17:56.639 Mike Singatary, because I knew he wasn't no pushover. 1:17:57.360 --> 1:18:01.439 Oh so you think when Singaretary, if you got rough 1:18:01.439 --> 1:18:02.640 with them, you think you were trying to take me. 1:18:02.720 --> 1:18:08.200 Oh yeah he was, Oh absolutely, you know. 1:18:08.840 --> 1:18:13.240 Oh man, he stood up in practice one day he said, 1:18:13.240 --> 1:18:16.360 I'll fight all of y'all until I went you might 1:18:16.400 --> 1:18:18.240 beat me, but I'm gonna get back up until I I'm. 1:18:18.479 --> 1:18:22.680 Keep on fighting. Such an old school guy, I can 1:18:22.800 --> 1:18:25.040 get me. But I love that dude. I love that dude, 1:18:25.080 --> 1:18:28.320 man beast. But we had a heart to heart man 1:18:28.360 --> 1:18:29.440 and I. 1:18:29.040 --> 1:18:32.720 From that day, from that moment I got it, I 1:18:32.760 --> 1:18:34.360 knew exactly what he wanted me to do, and I 1:18:34.400 --> 1:18:37.360 knew what I needed to do for myself. If I 1:18:37.400 --> 1:18:39.760 wanted to stay on this team and if I wanted 1:18:39.800 --> 1:18:42.840 to be a leader for my teammates, I had to 1:18:42.920 --> 1:18:43.559 change my ways. 1:18:43.600 --> 1:18:44.760 I had to change my attitude. 1:18:45.280 --> 1:18:49.240 And thankfully that I had him, I was able to 1:18:49.280 --> 1:18:53.280 be the player that we saw for fourteen well for 1:18:53.320 --> 1:18:59.240 the next eleven or twelve eleven to twelve years because 1:18:59.280 --> 1:18:59.599 of him. 1:19:00.120 --> 1:19:03.599 He did for me. Tough love, tough love, tough love. 1:19:05.400 --> 1:19:08.599 Yeah, I mean, sometimes they don't need to be put 1:19:08.640 --> 1:19:13.320 in our place in some form or fashion. Absolutely, you 1:19:13.360 --> 1:19:17.280 know everyone's got that story. And you know, Coach Single, 1:19:17.320 --> 1:19:19.760 you could tell he was doing that of love when 1:19:19.800 --> 1:19:23.360 he did it. You know, you you're a young guy, 1:19:24.680 --> 1:19:28.400 a lot of money. You've been the man forever. I mean, 1:19:28.439 --> 1:19:31.680 that's gotta be so hard for you, that's all you know, 1:19:32.880 --> 1:19:36.599 you know, So that's probably that's one of that. That's 1:19:36.600 --> 1:19:38.599 probably the turning point of your career right there. That 1:19:39.000 --> 1:19:43.240 turned you and made you think about that. And because 1:19:43.280 --> 1:19:46.000 it sounds like your energy changed from the type of 1:19:46.040 --> 1:19:49.320 teammate you were in everything by the time you got 1:19:49.360 --> 1:19:53.760 to Washington, where you enjoyed it, I can only imagine 1:19:53.800 --> 1:19:55.799 this day and age two. 1:19:55.600 --> 1:19:56.400 Thousand and eight. 1:19:56.720 --> 1:19:59.720 It wasn't enjoyable at the time when you have a 1:19:59.720 --> 1:20:03.080 lot of firing is going on, this going on. 1:20:03.840 --> 1:20:05.759 So man, that's that's awesome. 1:20:06.280 --> 1:20:11.000 It's awesome that you get real growth out of mistakes 1:20:11.080 --> 1:20:14.559 if you learn from them, right, if you learn from them, 1:20:14.960 --> 1:20:18.000 if you learn from this correct Yeah, you're right, amen. 1:20:18.520 --> 1:20:20.200 Yeah, you don't have to answer this, but I'll be 1:20:20.240 --> 1:20:22.880 a bad person and ask, but what did Coach Singletary 1:20:22.920 --> 1:20:24.360 say to you in that conversation Monday? 1:20:24.360 --> 1:20:25.639 Morning. Well. 1:20:25.960 --> 1:20:29.080 I don't know if verbadim like exactly what he said, 1:20:30.400 --> 1:20:32.360 but it was somewhere in the lines like. 1:20:33.040 --> 1:20:37.400 Son, you have to change. You could do better what 1:20:37.439 --> 1:20:40.719 you did out there. We can't have that on his teams. Huh. 1:20:41.680 --> 1:20:43.840 I know what you can be. You can be great, 1:20:44.520 --> 1:20:46.320 you could be the best tight end in the NFL. 1:20:47.360 --> 1:20:53.360 But you gotta change. And from that moment I started crying. Yeah, 1:20:53.360 --> 1:20:55.960 I shook his hand. I said, okay, coach, I got you. 1:20:56.760 --> 1:21:00.280 From that point on, I was you know it, Scott. 1:21:01.040 --> 1:21:02.040 I fucking love thank you. 1:21:03.120 --> 1:21:06.040 A one more touchdowns and I think we need a 1:21:06.040 --> 1:21:09.680 fucking oscar right there. I'm crying right oh baby, you 1:21:09.720 --> 1:21:11.760 got you got both characters in there. 1:21:11.880 --> 1:21:16.000 You got a tear. That was also good. I can't 1:21:16.000 --> 1:21:19.800 wait to see playing b That was awesome, so funny. 1:21:20.560 --> 1:21:23.160 What's the relationship with Coach Singletary now? 1:21:23.320 --> 1:21:23.479 Oh? 1:21:23.520 --> 1:21:25.920 I love He's like a he's like a father figure, brother, 1:21:26.479 --> 1:21:28.000 He's just all he's all, He's all of that. 1:21:28.080 --> 1:21:28.200 Man. 1:21:28.240 --> 1:21:29.679 I reached out to him and when I was writing 1:21:29.680 --> 1:21:31.519 this book, I was like, coach, can you I love 1:21:31.560 --> 1:21:34.759 to have you, you know, do the forward this book. 1:21:35.080 --> 1:21:37.840 He's like to beat honor He's like to be an honor. 1:21:39.240 --> 1:21:41.599 I was like, Wow, that's amazing. I appreciate your blessings 1:21:41.600 --> 1:21:46.759 for that, and uh LinkedIn with the publishing company and 1:21:46.880 --> 1:21:47.720 you know the rest was his. 1:21:48.040 --> 1:21:50.120 Wow, that's pretty darnk cool, full circle moment. 1:21:50.160 --> 1:21:50.599 I love that. 1:21:50.720 --> 1:21:54.200 Full circle Jack, give us the aftermath in the legacy 1:21:54.240 --> 1:21:54.679 of this game. 1:21:54.720 --> 1:21:57.640 So this one, this one wrapped up. Thirty four thirteen, 1:21:58.160 --> 1:22:00.840 full back Leonard Weaver had a heck of a second half, 1:22:01.120 --> 1:22:03.559 broke off some I mean a forty three yarder and 1:22:03.600 --> 1:22:06.320 a sixty two yarder for a full back. That's crazy. 1:22:06.600 --> 1:22:10.479 Shout out of Leonard Weaver. Bro Carson Newman Baby. Thirty 1:22:10.520 --> 1:22:12.200 four thirteen, Seattle wins. 1:22:12.920 --> 1:22:13.240 Uh. 1:22:13.400 --> 1:22:17.320 Mike Singletary goes on his legendary press conference rant that 1:22:17.400 --> 1:22:20.240 we all know and that we just broke down. The 1:22:20.320 --> 1:22:23.639 Niners finished seven and nine, finished the season five and two, 1:22:23.680 --> 1:22:27.240 so got some little momentum going into nine. Seahawks finished 1:22:27.280 --> 1:22:30.080 four and twelve. The home Gren era comes to an end. 1:22:30.479 --> 1:22:33.719 They bring in Jim morri for a lone season before 1:22:33.760 --> 1:22:37.080 the Pete Carroll Era starts, and both teams would miss 1:22:37.080 --> 1:22:40.120 the playoffs. Mike Singletary would be retained as head coach 1:22:40.160 --> 1:22:43.479 for the next season. Kind of that one ended up. 1:22:43.520 --> 1:22:46.240 Baby, what are the greatest coaching rants of all time? 1:22:46.800 --> 1:22:49.519 That's gotta be It's gotta Denny Green. 1:22:49.720 --> 1:22:52.680 Oh, that was a good one. We thought they were 1:22:54.520 --> 1:22:54.880 the Hawk. 1:22:56.400 --> 1:22:57.320 I love his energy. 1:22:57.360 --> 1:23:04.400 Man, alright, p Denny Man? Yea? Who else coaches? Man? 1:23:05.600 --> 1:23:06.280 I'm trying to think. 1:23:06.320 --> 1:23:06.760 I'm a man. 1:23:06.760 --> 1:23:09.400 I'm for the Olahoma State one college. 1:23:10.439 --> 1:23:11.120 Bill's had some. 1:23:11.080 --> 1:23:12.040 Good ones in his own right. 1:23:12.280 --> 1:23:12.880 What does he said? 1:23:15.000 --> 1:23:18.880 That's not a rant though, it's like a word for Bill, 1:23:19.040 --> 1:23:20.559 a legendary. 1:23:21.439 --> 1:23:22.800 Is this is is this is? 1:23:22.840 --> 1:23:24.280 This has got to be one of the best coach 1:23:24.320 --> 1:23:26.200 trans It's up there. 1:23:27.439 --> 1:23:30.080 You never be up there, I think. So it's got 1:23:30.080 --> 1:23:32.479 to be. That's pretty funny, and. 1:23:32.800 --> 1:23:35.759 Some good came out of it, which I love because 1:23:36.040 --> 1:23:37.160 that's pretty funny. 1:23:37.640 --> 1:23:41.360 He's not getting me better than that. There's no way. Then. 1:23:41.960 --> 1:23:43.519 Do you think the Niners are going to get over 1:23:43.560 --> 1:23:45.479 the hump this year or what? What do you think 1:23:45.479 --> 1:23:46.559 about the current Niners? 1:23:46.640 --> 1:23:49.560 Yeah, I think they I think right now, there's a 1:23:49.560 --> 1:23:53.720 few bumps and bruises. This team has really been. It's 1:23:53.760 --> 1:23:57.200 really suffered, you know, mostly injuries and things of that nature. 1:23:57.200 --> 1:23:59.519 But I don't think it really. I don't think it 1:23:59.520 --> 1:24:01.160 has anything to do with the coaching staff. I think 1:24:01.160 --> 1:24:03.720 they really they fix the things that they needed to 1:24:03.720 --> 1:24:06.880 fix since the last Super super Bowl from last year. 1:24:07.439 --> 1:24:08.920 I believe in them. I think they can do it. 1:24:09.000 --> 1:24:11.760 Yeah, it's gonna be a lot harder, you know. I 1:24:11.840 --> 1:24:12.840 use out for the year. 1:24:13.520 --> 1:24:15.559 We still don't know where Christian by the time this 1:24:15.600 --> 1:24:17.640 episode is out, Christian could be balling right now, or 1:24:17.640 --> 1:24:22.080 he still could be exactly somewhere on IR. Yeah, I 1:24:22.160 --> 1:24:25.320 just feel like I feel like they're losing their mojo 1:24:26.760 --> 1:24:29.240 because they like to play from ahead. They like to 1:24:29.280 --> 1:24:32.680 get that lead, you know, get that run game, have 1:24:32.800 --> 1:24:37.200 the defense play third down, exotic blitzes, exotic games with 1:24:37.240 --> 1:24:39.559 the lineman with four, and then play the zone in 1:24:39.600 --> 1:24:41.559 the back that's where they get all their turnovers. So 1:24:41.680 --> 1:24:44.040 like right now, they're not jumping on leads right now, 1:24:44.080 --> 1:24:46.320 and so they're playing the game from behind, which they're 1:24:46.320 --> 1:24:49.599 not comfortable really doing right now. And you know, if 1:24:49.960 --> 1:24:53.320 Rock Purty uses this time, you know and remembers this 1:24:53.439 --> 1:24:56.400 time not happening his weapons, if he uses this much 1:24:56.560 --> 1:25:00.479 like the rant for a learning experience on Hey, You're 1:25:00.520 --> 1:25:02.719 gonna have to win games when you don't have your guys. 1:25:02.760 --> 1:25:05.519 Sometimes it can help him in the you know, for 1:25:05.560 --> 1:25:07.840 the future. That's why I think they're right right now. 1:25:07.960 --> 1:25:10.479 Yeah, yeah, and I believe that I strongly do it. 1:25:10.560 --> 1:25:13.760 But but if Pertty is who we who he say 1:25:13.800 --> 1:25:16.280 he is, and who we believe him to be, believe 1:25:16.320 --> 1:25:19.320 he is, I think he can Uh, he could be the. 1:25:19.320 --> 1:25:22.920 Answer for this team. Yeah, you think that, I think so. 1:25:23.920 --> 1:25:25.519 I think so, as long as he's stay consistent and 1:25:25.560 --> 1:25:27.439 he do with everything he has to do to get 1:25:27.439 --> 1:25:30.240 the ball downfield, first down, touchdown. 1:25:32.240 --> 1:25:34.040 He's been turning the ball over a little too much 1:25:34.120 --> 1:25:37.160 right now. You we gotta gotta get it. 1:25:37.560 --> 1:25:39.920 Yeah, that's it. You can't do that. You can't. That's 1:25:39.920 --> 1:25:42.439 a that's a lack of focus. That's what I'm saying. 1:25:42.439 --> 1:25:45.560 If he can get back to to that killer instinct 1:25:46.080 --> 1:25:46.760 he had coming in. 1:25:46.880 --> 1:25:47.879 Sometimes I think. 1:25:47.680 --> 1:25:52.360 He he thinks about how everyone talks about him being 1:25:52.400 --> 1:25:55.439 so basic, where he tries to be too extraordinary. Yeah, 1:25:56.000 --> 1:25:58.400 to like prove a point, Hey Bud, just be you, 1:25:59.080 --> 1:26:03.360 just be you and dice right, you know, But we 1:26:03.400 --> 1:26:05.960 miss anything from this game or this this generation. 1:26:06.160 --> 1:26:11.400 Pats No nothing, I don't nothing or forty nine ers. 1:26:11.479 --> 1:26:14.120 Geez, we got pats on the brain maybe, Oh, they 1:26:14.120 --> 1:26:15.280 got to get in football money. 1:26:17.160 --> 1:26:19.080 So you edited your career in Washington. What was it 1:26:19.160 --> 1:26:21.160 like finishing your career with your hometown team. 1:26:21.720 --> 1:26:25.000 Oh, finishing my career with the Washington Commanders back in 1:26:25.040 --> 1:26:28.599 my hometown team, back in my hometown was truly amazing 1:26:28.640 --> 1:26:30.200 for me because I had a chance to play in 1:26:30.200 --> 1:26:34.640 front of friends and family and spent time with the 1:26:34.680 --> 1:26:37.320 people that I never really had a chance to spend 1:26:37.320 --> 1:26:40.240 time with, like my mom, because my grandparents raised me 1:26:40.280 --> 1:26:44.040 and my six siblings. So it was it was great 1:26:44.320 --> 1:26:46.360 and that's the reason why I'm still there because of 1:26:46.360 --> 1:26:49.080 my experience playing with the team and being back there 1:26:49.160 --> 1:26:52.880 is really I'm really intrigued with the city. I mean, 1:26:52.880 --> 1:26:57.520 it's an amazing city. Is it evolved, how it evolved 1:26:57.680 --> 1:27:02.280 is just just pretty cool to see because I grew 1:27:02.360 --> 1:27:05.839 up there, and you know, having that ten year separation, 1:27:06.400 --> 1:27:10.719 going to San Francisco and coming back after leaving Denver. 1:27:11.640 --> 1:27:13.640 I don't want to go anywhere else yet. I very appreciative. 1:27:14.240 --> 1:27:16.880 Yeah, how been playing with Jade Daniels? 1:27:16.920 --> 1:27:19.800 Oh, jayde Daniels, watching him in college, everything that he 1:27:19.840 --> 1:27:22.240 did in college I knew that was going to transfer 1:27:22.280 --> 1:27:25.040 over to the NFL. I mean, that dude was that 1:27:25.120 --> 1:27:26.920 dude's I mean, he didn't want to win the Heisman 1:27:27.000 --> 1:27:29.840 for nothing. And I met him when he was in college. 1:27:29.880 --> 1:27:32.240 I just I could tell he was just a great kid. 1:27:33.040 --> 1:27:35.519 Very seemed like he was very focused. He loved playing, 1:27:35.520 --> 1:27:38.599 he loved the game of football, and he just I mean, 1:27:38.600 --> 1:27:40.080 he can do it, man, he can do it. 1:27:40.200 --> 1:27:41.560 Can't teach that, can't teach it. 1:27:41.640 --> 1:27:44.639 He's just a He's a special football player. 1:27:45.120 --> 1:27:46.679 And I've got one more selfish question. 1:27:46.720 --> 1:27:49.439 I'm a big Virginia Tech fan, and no, Maryland, you 1:27:49.520 --> 1:27:52.160 played in Virginia Tech Blacksberger on a Thursday night. Can 1:27:52.200 --> 1:27:53.960 you just tell me a little bit what it's like 1:27:54.000 --> 1:27:55.800 playing being on a way team playing a Blackspur on 1:27:55.880 --> 1:27:56.400 Thursday night. 1:27:56.479 --> 1:27:59.960 Yeah, playing at Virginia Tech is that's that's a crazy 1:28:00.040 --> 1:28:03.040 the environment. They love football out there, They love football 1:28:03.120 --> 1:28:06.280 and they most of the time they have great players. 1:28:06.760 --> 1:28:08.560 And I believe who was who was quarterback when I 1:28:08.640 --> 1:28:11.479 was there, Marcus Vick. I believe it's the quarterback when 1:28:11.479 --> 1:28:12.479 I was Yeah, he was. 1:28:12.800 --> 1:28:15.479 He was. I mean he could play, I mean college, 1:28:15.479 --> 1:28:15.920 he could play. 1:28:15.960 --> 1:28:20.680 He was fast he could he could pass and was 1:28:20.720 --> 1:28:21.599 camp chancellor there. 1:28:22.760 --> 1:28:25.080 I think he might have been Josh Morgan, might have 1:28:25.120 --> 1:28:28.320 been Josh Morgan was there exactly Josh. 1:28:28.360 --> 1:28:31.240 I played against Josh in high school, was at Eastern 1:28:31.520 --> 1:28:34.959 Senior High School when I was at Dunbar, Dumbbar. 1:28:35.280 --> 1:28:39.360 Yeah, so they had some talent for sure. But yeah, 1:28:39.360 --> 1:28:42.160 that's that's a tough environment to play man, love it, 1:28:42.200 --> 1:28:42.599 Thank you. 1:28:42.800 --> 1:28:44.960 We'll be right back after this quick break. 1:28:46.200 --> 1:28:49.200 Hey, hey, hey, Rob Gronkowski here and I'm with my 1:28:49.280 --> 1:28:52.160 bro or my dude. 1:28:52.160 --> 1:28:55.679 Jules, and we are super excited to tell you about 1:28:55.720 --> 1:28:58.439 our new show, Dudes on Dudes. 1:28:58.840 --> 1:29:00.559 We're just regular as well. 1:29:00.640 --> 1:29:04.400 Sometimes we can't read, sometimes we can't speak properly, but. 1:29:04.479 --> 1:29:08.599 That's what dudes do. But Dudes on Dudes, seriously, who 1:29:08.760 --> 1:29:09.120 named this? 1:29:09.840 --> 1:29:14.800 Anyways, we're spilling all the behind scenes stories, crazy details, 1:29:14.960 --> 1:29:17.960 and honestly just having a blast talking football. 1:29:18.160 --> 1:29:21.719 Every week, we're discussing our favorite players of all times, 1:29:21.720 --> 1:29:24.440 from legends to our buddies to current. 1:29:24.120 --> 1:29:28.240 Stars, and the best part, we're finally answering the age 1:29:28.280 --> 1:29:32.679 old question what kind of dudes are these dudes? 1:29:33.000 --> 1:29:35.599 Is Travis Kelcey a stud or a freak? 1:29:36.120 --> 1:29:39.040 Is Tom Brady a dog or dude's dude? We're gonna 1:29:39.040 --> 1:29:39.519 find out. 1:29:39.640 --> 1:29:43.360 Every episode drops every Thursday during the NFL season. 1:29:43.400 --> 1:29:46.479 Those are some good questions right there, Julian. We're gonna 1:29:46.520 --> 1:29:50.080 find out soon. And watch us on YouTube, listen wherever 1:29:50.120 --> 1:29:53.519 you listen to podcasts, and of course, follow us all 1:29:53.560 --> 1:29:55.559 over social media. 1:29:54.960 --> 1:29:58.639 So hit that subscribe button, follow us everywhere and join 1:29:58.720 --> 1:29:59.639 the dude party. 1:30:00.080 --> 1:30:02.840 You don't want to miss this, dudes on dudes, let's 1:30:02.840 --> 1:30:10.439 go name the game. 1:30:10.479 --> 1:30:12.920 We gotta name this game. These are some names we 1:30:13.000 --> 1:30:14.439 came up with, or if you want. 1:30:14.240 --> 1:30:16.360 To name the game, you have an idea, you could 1:30:16.439 --> 1:30:16.800 name it. 1:30:17.080 --> 1:30:20.200 We came up with the cannot play with Them game, 1:30:21.200 --> 1:30:25.200 the hit the Showers game, the Singletary Ramp game, the 1:30:25.320 --> 1:30:29.200 Vernon Davis game, the Leonard Weaver game, or do you 1:30:29.240 --> 1:30:29.960 have something else? 1:30:30.040 --> 1:30:33.120 They cannot play with them game? They cannot play with them? 1:30:33.439 --> 1:30:37.679 I can't play with them. Ah, well, winners. I told Vernon, 1:30:38.360 --> 1:30:43.600 We'll take the shower. That's damn good as that's a 1:30:43.640 --> 1:30:47.080 rookie skin. That's rookie skins here right there. Let's score 1:30:47.120 --> 1:30:50.120 the game presented by Jamison. Is this the greatest game 1:30:50.160 --> 1:30:55.320 of all time. Let's score it steaks zero to ten decimals. 1:30:55.360 --> 1:30:55.719 Okay. 1:30:55.760 --> 1:30:59.759 The stakes of this week seven Week eight, two thousand 1:30:59.760 --> 1:31:03.960 and eight eight game stakes of this game, new coach. 1:31:04.800 --> 1:31:10.040 Say four, five, four, four point five for okay, I'll 1:31:10.080 --> 1:31:11.280 go with the pro score. 1:31:12.280 --> 1:31:15.800 I go with the five five even Vernon on the 1:31:15.840 --> 1:31:17.160 same page four point five and. 1:31:17.160 --> 1:31:18.040 I had a four point one. 1:31:18.240 --> 1:31:23.960 The star power of this game zero to ten decimals, okay, ten, ten, 1:31:24.880 --> 1:31:27.599 three backup quarterbacks played, you got you got, you got 1:31:27.680 --> 1:31:28.280 Vernon in there. 1:31:28.400 --> 1:31:30.519 You gotta put some respect on JT. So I'll go 1:31:30.560 --> 1:31:32.840 with the his YouTube. You don't have to go to 1:31:32.960 --> 1:31:34.759 I'm saying ten. I'm thinking about all the other guys. 1:31:35.240 --> 1:31:39.320 You gotta get the j T o L he's got 1:31:39.360 --> 1:31:43.360 YouTube yet, No, not yet, go back. 1:31:43.400 --> 1:31:50.240 Take that ten away, let's go. Let's go six, six. 1:31:50.880 --> 1:31:53.520 Six point five march On worth three point five points 1:31:53.320 --> 1:31:54.040 that right. 1:31:54.320 --> 1:31:55.800 At least I give. 1:31:57.080 --> 1:32:00.880 A six out of five point one. 1:32:00.920 --> 1:32:01.880 I was going a little low there. 1:32:01.920 --> 1:32:02.240 Sorry. 1:32:02.720 --> 1:32:07.960 The game play to this thirty five to fourteen game, 1:32:08.760 --> 1:32:13.000 zero to ten decimals, okay, zero being terrible, ten being. 1:32:13.240 --> 1:32:17.960 Three point five three five integrity score very integrity type score. 1:32:18.920 --> 1:32:21.000 Uh this man, this guy. 1:32:21.200 --> 1:32:23.439 He respects the integrity of the art. I love that 1:32:24.320 --> 1:32:27.439 there's I could feel it. I'm gonna go with a 1:32:28.000 --> 1:32:30.559 five to one, still pro football. 1:32:30.600 --> 1:32:32.040 I love fall four point zero. 1:32:32.240 --> 1:32:34.000 Yeah, I'm righting the four point two. 1:32:35.760 --> 1:32:38.439 Now we score the name of the game. They can't 1:32:38.439 --> 1:32:43.360 play with them game. That's cultural significance, cultural significance. We 1:32:43.400 --> 1:32:46.719 are talking about this game literally, damn near twenty years later, 1:32:47.320 --> 1:32:48.559 Week eight game. 1:32:49.120 --> 1:32:51.160 You say that line. Everyone knows what game you're talking about. 1:32:51.760 --> 1:32:54.000 Let's score this name of this game. 1:32:54.880 --> 1:32:59.960 Yeah, heck yes, oh yeah, seven, five, seven point five. 1:33:01.400 --> 1:33:02.280 I went with an eight points. 1:33:02.680 --> 1:33:03.400 I did at eight. 1:33:03.280 --> 1:33:08.040 Point one five seven eight seven, eight point seven eight. 1:33:08.120 --> 1:33:13.519 That puts us okay, It puts US sixty seventh, right 1:33:13.560 --> 1:33:17.160 below the twenty nineteen Raiders versus Bears in London and 1:33:17.240 --> 1:33:21.280 right above Week eleven or twenty eleven Week sixteen Patriots 1:33:21.360 --> 1:33:22.280 versus Bills. 1:33:22.960 --> 1:33:25.440 That feels right. That feels right, nice. 1:33:26.880 --> 1:33:28.920 Games man, that feels like a good spot. 1:33:29.200 --> 1:33:34.519 Heck yeah, wow, Brint, we miss anything o the book 1:33:34.600 --> 1:33:38.799 We talked about the book movie Farm that's. 1:33:38.760 --> 1:33:43.679 Playing me the Farm playing ball life. Lessons from my 1:33:43.800 --> 1:33:45.679 Journey to the Super Bowl and beyond. 1:33:46.040 --> 1:33:50.280 Awesome members seventy two hours, come out November first, seventy 1:33:50.320 --> 1:33:53.240 two hours, Sam, I got Sam Trammel. 1:33:54.520 --> 1:33:56.240 That's a good movie, man, you gotta check it out. 1:33:56.240 --> 1:33:57.240 It comes out November first. 1:33:57.520 --> 1:34:00.320 I mean, he's got he just worked. It might be 1:34:00.320 --> 1:34:03.320 one of my better movies, right here, man, Yes, seventy 1:34:03.320 --> 1:34:05.759 two hours. Let me check it out. And my music 1:34:05.800 --> 1:34:07.880 is in the movie. And they showed me that's me rapping, 1:34:07.920 --> 1:34:08.519 that's me singing. 1:34:08.800 --> 1:34:11.519 No way, So I get up to stop the girl 1:34:11.560 --> 1:34:15.599 from getting from robbing the burger joint. Yeah, And I 1:34:15.600 --> 1:34:18.639 get up and I go quick whipping on the guy, 1:34:18.680 --> 1:34:19.439 and that's my song. 1:34:19.520 --> 1:34:20.799 Give me a quick eight bars. 1:34:23.720 --> 1:34:25.280 I saw the trailer on I g this morning. It 1:34:25.280 --> 1:34:25.839 looks insane. 1:34:26.640 --> 1:34:31.320 Yeah, I just no number one. Everyone go check it out. 1:34:31.720 --> 1:34:34.240 Thank you, bro, appreciate you coming. Thank you guys. 1:34:35.520 --> 1:34:38.439 Burn Davis is fully an actor, what a guy. Fully 1:34:38.680 --> 1:34:41.439 He did like a full monologue scene right there, voices 1:34:41.840 --> 1:34:45.680 two mo and forth. His impersonations were great, too spectacular. 1:34:46.520 --> 1:34:48.200 I thought I was singletary. 1:34:48.720 --> 1:34:50.439 I thought we had a mic on the show. 1:34:50.520 --> 1:34:52.439 I wanted to ask him, did he ever mock him? 1:34:52.479 --> 1:34:55.560 Do it? Like? Second? Did you ever do you know 1:34:55.600 --> 1:34:55.960 what I mean? 1:34:56.280 --> 1:34:58.680 Or like behind his back, Like, yeah, I didn't get 1:34:58.680 --> 1:35:00.280 a chance to ask him, but I read it thing 1:35:01.320 --> 1:35:04.200 uh earlier that I guess Delaney Walker, who was on 1:35:04.240 --> 1:35:07.200 this team, Yeah, was saying that. Singletary came in later 1:35:07.200 --> 1:35:10.040 that week and like did a rap based on like 1:35:10.120 --> 1:35:12.400 his press conference to the team, and it was just like, 1:35:12.439 --> 1:35:15.000 what is this what? I didn't get a chance as room. 1:35:15.040 --> 1:35:19.200 I really wish I had, God damn. 1:35:18.960 --> 1:35:20.080 It, Jack Well. 1:35:20.080 --> 1:35:26.679 In honor of today's Mike Singletary legendary rant, we're gonna 1:35:26.720 --> 1:35:28.760 do a breakdown. Let's break down some of the other 1:35:28.800 --> 1:35:29.519 coaches rants. 1:35:29.600 --> 1:35:29.800 Huh. 1:35:29.880 --> 1:35:31.240 There are a lot of them, a lot of those 1:35:31.280 --> 1:35:37.680 press conference guys that you know. One recently in the 1:35:37.720 --> 1:35:41.240 press called team soft. That's is that a rant? 1:35:41.280 --> 1:35:44.040 It's a notable press It is a notable press conference moment. 1:35:44.640 --> 1:35:47.799 We're still talking about it. So he did something, it's something, 1:35:47.880 --> 1:35:49.160 and we kept it the football. 1:35:49.240 --> 1:35:51.880 Yeah, we'll keep it football when the press coaches. 1:35:51.479 --> 1:35:53.160 Because there are some great player ones too. 1:35:56.000 --> 1:35:57.640 Oh man, let's get into it. 1:35:57.760 --> 1:36:00.680 We'll run through these, We'll we'll read through the transcripts, 1:36:00.720 --> 1:36:04.040 which just make them even Funnykendy to see them on paper, 1:36:04.439 --> 1:36:04.760 and then. 1:36:04.680 --> 1:36:06.360 We'll Reac gree Mullet, Mike Gundy. 1:36:06.560 --> 1:36:09.719 Mike Gundy Oklahoma State head coach, still the head coach. 1:36:10.080 --> 1:36:11.519 This is back in seven. 1:36:13.640 --> 1:36:18.559 I'm a man, I'm not I'm not a kid. 1:36:18.760 --> 1:36:20.880 Write something by me or some coaches. 1:36:22.600 --> 1:36:25.200 And this was after this is the craziest thing is 1:36:25.560 --> 1:36:28.280 this was following a win like this was after a win. 1:36:28.840 --> 1:36:30.840 This was two days after a winter crazy. You know, 1:36:30.840 --> 1:36:32.840 on a Wednesday, he gets in there. They said he 1:36:32.920 --> 1:36:35.559 ripped the red bull before going into this, grabbed the 1:36:35.560 --> 1:36:38.439 newspaper and just goes off on the media about this. 1:36:38.479 --> 1:36:41.080 Article that that they wrote about his. 1:36:40.760 --> 1:36:43.519 His benching of the guy who had been the starter, 1:36:44.439 --> 1:36:48.080 Bobby Reid, and there was some tension there. Uh So 1:36:48.120 --> 1:36:50.960 he put in Zach Robinson, who we now know is 1:36:51.000 --> 1:36:55.000 the offensive coordinator down to Atlanta, and they were saying, 1:36:55.240 --> 1:36:58.479 according to Reid's account and others, this was a lot 1:36:58.520 --> 1:37:01.799 of posturing to really like he really wasn't. 1:37:02.320 --> 1:37:03.720 So the locker room didn't buy into this. 1:37:03.880 --> 1:37:07.160 No, Bobby Reid definitely didn't. The relationship was kind of 1:37:07.200 --> 1:37:09.960 strained there. He thought, you know, the starting job should 1:37:09.960 --> 1:37:13.479 have been his, but behind closed doors, Oklahoma State wanted 1:37:13.520 --> 1:37:16.200 to go with Robinson. And he's kind of out there 1:37:16.760 --> 1:37:18.640 fake sticking up for his guy. He's sort of the 1:37:18.720 --> 1:37:19.439 legend around it. 1:37:19.520 --> 1:37:24.559 But how many years ago this was? This was seven. 1:37:25.040 --> 1:37:29.040 I'm a man, I'm forty. I say that twice a week. 1:37:29.080 --> 1:37:30.400 It still is in the lexicon. 1:37:30.560 --> 1:37:32.800 Yeah, it also makes me feel better about getting older 1:37:32.840 --> 1:37:35.200 because not yet a man. I'm not even forty yet. 1:37:35.280 --> 1:37:37.759 So like, I'm good, I got a long ways to go. Tom, 1:37:37.800 --> 1:37:38.439 I'm still a boy. 1:37:38.680 --> 1:37:40.479 Can't write anything bad about you, that's. 1:37:40.360 --> 1:37:42.879 Right, baby, Mike Gundy said some wild stuff. 1:37:44.240 --> 1:37:50.559 He's a rodeo brother. He's not cowboys. Shout out the cowboys. Baby. 1:37:51.600 --> 1:37:53.760 He's a visor guy too, big visor. 1:37:53.439 --> 1:37:55.240 Guy, mullet guy mulle advisors. 1:37:55.840 --> 1:37:59.280 Yeah, he's uh, he's a one of a kind guy. 1:37:59.439 --> 1:38:00.920 He he was. 1:38:00.960 --> 1:38:03.200 Actually he was the OC. 1:38:03.040 --> 1:38:05.519 When they recruited this Bobby Reid guy and got in 1:38:05.640 --> 1:38:07.639 a stick around. But Less Miles was the head coach, 1:38:07.880 --> 1:38:10.120 which I forgot. I forgot out Less Miles at Oklahoma State. 1:38:10.400 --> 1:38:12.400 Oh shit, that one kind of went under my radar. 1:38:13.080 --> 1:38:16.559 But a tie back into this game that prompted this rant. 1:38:17.400 --> 1:38:20.800 They had beat they want to shootout against Texas Tech 1:38:21.200 --> 1:38:25.040 a couple of days before this forty nine forty five 1:38:25.880 --> 1:38:27.599 Dola in this. 1:38:27.600 --> 1:38:30.240 Game, Yeah, fourteen. 1:38:29.800 --> 1:38:33.200 Catches for two hundred and thirty three yards in a 1:38:33.240 --> 1:38:36.760 tuddy Graham Harrold's out there throwing till his arm falls off. 1:38:36.960 --> 1:38:40.640 Forty six of sixty seven for six hundred forty six yards, 1:38:40.920 --> 1:38:41.960 five touchdowns. 1:38:42.200 --> 1:38:43.080 Jesus, that is. 1:38:43.080 --> 1:38:47.920 The old Crowdtree to Crabtree, fourteen catches, two hundred and 1:38:47.920 --> 1:38:49.880 thirty seven yards, three touchdowns. 1:38:50.200 --> 1:38:51.720 This game is core had a two game. 1:38:51.800 --> 1:38:52.759 I missed Big twelve. 1:38:52.840 --> 1:38:54.799 I missed when it was like that man. 1:38:54.680 --> 1:38:57.519 Dola and Crabtree. That's a good little that's a good receiver. 1:38:57.720 --> 1:39:00.320 That is fun. Baby year. 1:39:00.439 --> 1:39:02.679 They were just breaking the all time touchdown record. 1:39:02.640 --> 1:39:05.680 Just letting it fly. Oh, Dola made the guys go 1:39:05.800 --> 1:39:06.320 on a rant. 1:39:06.600 --> 1:39:10.080 Dola Crabtree friend of the show, Dola, we love you, baby, Vodola, 1:39:11.760 --> 1:39:16.280 go vote. But I love that. I just rarely do 1:39:16.320 --> 1:39:19.760 you get a great rant days after a win. It's 1:39:19.760 --> 1:39:23.479 a unique, it's unique in the rant world. We got 1:39:23.479 --> 1:39:26.080 a we had Dennis Green. We mentioned that a little 1:39:26.080 --> 1:39:28.439 bit with Vernon during the episode. Vern was a fan 1:39:28.479 --> 1:39:31.000 of that rant when he was the head coach of 1:39:31.000 --> 1:39:35.519 the Arizona Cardinals. This is two thousand and six. This 1:39:35.680 --> 1:39:37.599 is Rex Grossman Super Bowl year. 1:39:37.640 --> 1:39:41.040 Baby, like that defense was just on fire. 1:39:41.120 --> 1:39:44.200 After a Monday night game, Dennis Green's Cardinals were one 1:39:44.240 --> 1:39:47.200 in four. The Bears, who eventually went to the Super 1:39:47.240 --> 1:39:51.040 Bowl were five and zero, and after three quarters of football, 1:39:51.080 --> 1:39:54.200 Arizona was leading them twenty three to ten. But with 1:39:54.240 --> 1:39:57.120 five minutes ago, the peanut punch Man, the punch man 1:39:57.160 --> 1:40:00.639 peanut till he returned to Edgard and j Games fumble 1:40:00.720 --> 1:40:03.400 for a tuddy edge edge of Cardinals years. You forget 1:40:03.400 --> 1:40:04.640 about those, don't forget about them? 1:40:04.640 --> 1:40:07.080 Which are better than? Which is which is better? Edgrid 1:40:07.160 --> 1:40:09.479 James from the Cardinals or Emmitt Smith on the Cardinals? 1:40:09.840 --> 1:40:11.959 Oh both weirdo. 1:40:12.560 --> 1:40:14.760 Both probably think went over a thousand. You have to 1:40:14.800 --> 1:40:15.680 look that up here real quick. 1:40:15.760 --> 1:40:16.360 No, you don't have to. 1:40:16.439 --> 1:40:19.040 Just then with and then two minutes later after that frumble, 1:40:19.080 --> 1:40:23.240 Devin Huster returns upon eighty three yards, which would be 1:40:23.280 --> 1:40:24.120 the game winning score. 1:40:24.200 --> 1:40:25.439 So it was a brutal loss. 1:40:25.760 --> 1:40:29.120 Rip their hearts out and Dennis Green takes the podium 1:40:29.120 --> 1:40:30.080 man and he lets him fly. 1:40:30.240 --> 1:40:35.120 Baby, are who we thought they were? That's why we 1:40:35.200 --> 1:40:38.120 took the damn field. You want to crown them, to 1:40:38.240 --> 1:40:39.080 crown their ass. 1:40:39.240 --> 1:40:42.040 But we they were that they were remember that, Yes, 1:40:42.200 --> 1:40:48.200 we let them off TK like the coach slam Bro. 1:40:48.600 --> 1:40:51.040 That was all time, all the time. 1:40:51.080 --> 1:40:54.559 I loved that. They's such an old, old school guy. 1:40:54.680 --> 1:40:58.320 We let them off talk crown their ass, crown. 1:40:58.400 --> 1:41:00.400 I never really heard that term crown him until Dennis 1:41:00.400 --> 1:41:02.400 screen Now every time I hear someone say it, I'm. 1:41:02.240 --> 1:41:07.760 Like Dennis crowd. They picked off Rex Grossman for he 1:41:07.840 --> 1:41:08.680 passed away? 1:41:08.800 --> 1:41:14.799 Yeah, I p Man all right, p knis screen Man ready? 1:41:14.800 --> 1:41:17.960 Moscus carter Man losing what one game that season? 1:41:18.080 --> 1:41:20.240 Yeah, the heck of a guy. 1:41:20.320 --> 1:41:24.960 Heck a, this might be my favorite. Moving on, moving on, 1:41:25.080 --> 1:41:27.640 next one. Jim Mora, another guy we mentioned during the 1:41:27.640 --> 1:41:28.759 Minneapolis Colts. 1:41:28.960 --> 1:41:31.960 His son oh Is. This was this after like paying 1:41:32.000 --> 1:41:33.240 the playing the Patriots. 1:41:33.320 --> 1:41:35.719 This was two thousand and one. This was after the Niners. 1:41:35.960 --> 1:41:41.720 Oh they they lost. Talk about playoffs? You kidding me? 1:41:41.840 --> 1:41:42.840 Playoffs? 1:41:43.400 --> 1:41:47.719 I just hope we went another game. We'll talk about playoffs. 1:41:47.760 --> 1:41:51.040 Are you kidding me? Playoffs? I just hope we can 1:41:51.120 --> 1:41:52.799 win another game. 1:41:53.520 --> 1:41:56.880 Playoffs. I say this one four times a week. 1:41:57.400 --> 1:42:01.040 This was they fell to four and six, So this 1:42:01.080 --> 1:42:02.120 would have been week ten. 1:42:02.640 --> 1:42:04.320 Oh I don't believe, right, yeah. 1:42:04.120 --> 1:42:06.599 Weekend because they moved to four and six after this game. 1:42:07.000 --> 1:42:10.320 Peyton Manning through four picks this game, so that was 1:42:10.360 --> 1:42:11.880 kind of the story of that when they lost forty 1:42:11.920 --> 1:42:15.000 one to twenty to San fran Man. So that was 1:42:15.040 --> 1:42:19.479 a young Peyton Manning just getting ripped. And then thirty 1:42:19.560 --> 1:42:22.360 went on to say, I don't know. All I know 1:42:22.479 --> 1:42:25.000 is we threw four interceptions and fumbled once and one 1:42:25.000 --> 1:42:26.639 interception they returned for a touchdown. 1:42:26.800 --> 1:42:29.360 Three others were in our endo the field and they score. 1:42:29.400 --> 1:42:29.920 That's all I know. 1:42:29.960 --> 1:42:32.920 That's inexcusable. Inexcusable, And then he went on to the 1:42:32.960 --> 1:42:37.679 classic playoffs. Talk to me about playoffs. So threw Peyton 1:42:37.760 --> 1:42:39.920 under the bus a little bit there, but I mean he 1:42:39.960 --> 1:42:40.920 was he was in rent mode. 1:42:41.800 --> 1:42:43.320 Man. He definitely threw him under the bus. 1:42:44.400 --> 1:42:45.440 Four receptions? 1:42:46.400 --> 1:42:50.000 Is Jim Morrigan he's still with us? All right? 1:42:50.000 --> 1:42:53.240 If he's still kicking, let me double check here, where's 1:42:53.240 --> 1:43:00.320 his son, where's his junior? Or he's coaching Papa Papa 1:43:00.400 --> 1:43:02.559 Jim morrew eighty nine. 1:43:02.439 --> 1:43:05.680 Let's go Jim more And then the sun he was 1:43:06.600 --> 1:43:08.599 I remember was the Falcons say Yukon My bad. 1:43:08.680 --> 1:43:09.760 Sorry you come. 1:43:10.400 --> 1:43:13.320 He was a US head coach for a while, holding 1:43:13.360 --> 1:43:16.800 it down, bro, you I always I always hated Jim 1:43:16.800 --> 1:43:19.320 Moore junior, just because making Mike Vick run a West 1:43:19.360 --> 1:43:21.880 Coast offense. It's just like, I'm like fourteen years old. 1:43:21.960 --> 1:43:23.599 I'm just like, that's the dumbest thing you've ever seen. 1:43:23.880 --> 1:43:26.599 Fix whole thing is like improvisation and throwing the ball 1:43:26.680 --> 1:43:28.439 deep and being an athlete. You're gonna put him on 1:43:28.520 --> 1:43:31.479 timing routes. What are we fucking doing here? That's my rant. 1:43:31.880 --> 1:43:33.839 That's pretty good. That's a pretty good postcast. 1:43:34.160 --> 1:43:36.360 Baby, Mike Vick. 1:43:36.520 --> 1:43:38.720 Fuck, we love you, We love your Mike. 1:43:39.600 --> 1:43:43.880 Mike and West Coast would be lethal. It wasn't went 1:43:43.960 --> 1:43:44.679 to the super Bowl? 1:43:45.280 --> 1:43:47.680 Didn't didn't they didn't Mike go to the super Bowl, 1:43:47.720 --> 1:43:48.560 or they went. They went to this. 1:43:48.720 --> 1:43:52.080 They beat the Packers in the playoffs in Lambeau before 1:43:52.200 --> 1:43:53.400 they brought in Jim. 1:43:53.720 --> 1:43:57.440 Oh right, all right, next Michaels, Mike Singletary. 1:43:57.800 --> 1:43:59.880 We all know that. We we talked about that. When 1:44:00.080 --> 1:44:01.559 we we don't have a whole heck of a lot. 1:44:01.560 --> 1:44:02.439 I don't have Vernon to do the. 1:44:03.560 --> 1:44:05.360 I mean Vernon Davis here with us, So I don't 1:44:05.360 --> 1:44:06.280 even know if we should try. 1:44:07.800 --> 1:44:10.200 I like, I like calling them vern I like Vernon. 1:44:10.320 --> 1:44:13.679 I like when he said former vern Broadway, vern Broadway, 1:44:13.720 --> 1:44:15.240 ver Broadway, Verne had a great ring to it. 1:44:15.400 --> 1:44:17.160 Who wants to go to the Jets? 1:44:17.760 --> 1:44:18.880 Yeah, that was a wild one. 1:44:19.520 --> 1:44:21.320 I mean, if you gotta, if you think about it, 1:44:21.360 --> 1:44:23.719 if you got it turned around and wanted the Jets, 1:44:23.760 --> 1:44:26.479 you'd be a king forever. Yes, So, I mean I 1:44:26.479 --> 1:44:29.320 could see why guys want to do it. It's it's 1:44:29.360 --> 1:44:32.640 still New York City. It's still Broadway, Joe. There's a 1:44:32.680 --> 1:44:36.640 lot of tradition with the Jets. Like it's not like 1:44:36.680 --> 1:44:37.880 they're Jacksonville. 1:44:40.320 --> 1:44:41.360 No, really, it's like. 1:44:41.600 --> 1:44:44.560 Yeah, they did win one Super Bowl in this was 1:44:44.600 --> 1:44:48.400 it sixties, I mean, but that's still it's like one 1:44:48.400 --> 1:44:50.880 of the great game and those people. 1:44:50.640 --> 1:44:51.439 Love their football. 1:44:51.680 --> 1:44:54.920 Oh yeah, I mean so, I it'll be like so 1:44:55.080 --> 1:44:56.680 weird when they when they do win. 1:44:56.880 --> 1:44:57.800 I think it'd be cool. 1:44:58.560 --> 1:45:00.800 Will it happen in the next twenty years? 1:45:01.160 --> 1:45:01.679 I don't know. 1:45:01.880 --> 1:45:03.840 I don't know either. I don't know. 1:45:04.640 --> 1:45:06.839 I don't know if it'd be cool, but I wouldn't 1:45:06.880 --> 1:45:07.320 be mad. 1:45:07.640 --> 1:45:09.320 It'd be something. Yeah, I mean it would, it would 1:45:09.320 --> 1:45:09.519 be good. 1:45:09.520 --> 1:45:11.280 It'd be good for the league for sure, be good 1:45:11.320 --> 1:45:12.080 for the shield. 1:45:11.920 --> 1:45:15.559 Of the historically snake bit franchises. Let's just say members 1:45:15.800 --> 1:45:19.040 or the Chargers, Browns, Browns, Lions. 1:45:19.200 --> 1:45:20.559 Who's going rounds and Lions? 1:45:21.040 --> 1:45:24.400 Lions? Lions will do before them all. I think, Oh 1:45:24.439 --> 1:45:25.960 my gosh, that's kind of crazy. 1:45:26.160 --> 1:45:28.680 Chargers with Harbor, I know, it's weird right now. 1:45:29.040 --> 1:45:32.400 They've been competitive and with Philip Rivers not too too 1:45:32.439 --> 1:45:35.479 far back, Yeah, but they've never the Browns have never, 1:45:36.040 --> 1:45:38.880 like they had one playoff win since like Bernie Kozar. 1:45:40.240 --> 1:45:44.000 Yeah, with Baker and then Detroit. 1:45:44.479 --> 1:45:48.320 I mean I got to learn from it, hopefully. 1:45:48.720 --> 1:45:54.559 I mean Peter Schrager picked Packers over Chiefs or Packers Chiefs, 1:45:54.600 --> 1:45:56.840 Chiefs win and three peat, and I guess he's done 1:45:56.840 --> 1:45:57.800 it like three times in a row. 1:45:58.600 --> 1:46:01.880 He picked the winner too, or just I don't know, clairvoyant. 1:46:02.479 --> 1:46:06.759 What else would we got herm Edwards, herm baby? 1:46:06.880 --> 1:46:10.880 This was This was HERM at the Jets, HERM wearing 1:46:10.920 --> 1:46:14.799 the crew neck, the shield, polo or a sweatshirt here, 1:46:15.200 --> 1:46:17.360 great Krwnick was just a shield. I love that this 1:46:17.520 --> 1:46:20.920 was back in Oh wait, another midweek rant. This was 1:46:20.920 --> 1:46:23.639 at his Wednesday presser. The Jets were sitting at two 1:46:23.680 --> 1:46:26.800 and five and herm just lets it loose, baby, he 1:46:26.880 --> 1:46:31.040 lets it rip. Another great woman is very quotable. This 1:46:31.080 --> 1:46:34.439 is what's great about sports. You play to win the game. Hello, 1:46:35.520 --> 1:46:38.160 You play to win the game. You don't just play 1:46:38.200 --> 1:46:38.720 to play it. 1:46:38.920 --> 1:46:39.280 Hello. 1:46:40.160 --> 1:46:42.360 It was to win the game. 1:46:43.680 --> 1:46:44.439 I love that one. 1:46:44.880 --> 1:46:45.840 David Bennett. 1:46:46.160 --> 1:46:48.680 David Bennett, we might need some context. This is a 1:46:49.200 --> 1:46:52.479 This is a Carolina twenty eleven. I remember this from 1:46:52.520 --> 1:46:55.839 the world of college football. He is the head coach 1:46:56.240 --> 1:46:59.200 at Coastal Carolina. Only lasted a few more months after this, 1:46:59.840 --> 1:47:03.519 but this was this was a great one. When a 1:47:03.600 --> 1:47:06.360 coach is up there meowing at a press conference, you 1:47:06.360 --> 1:47:07.599 know you're in for something special. 1:47:08.560 --> 1:47:11.400 You read this. You need to be more like a dog. 1:47:11.960 --> 1:47:13.320 We got a bunch of cats in here. 1:47:13.479 --> 1:47:13.759 Wow. 1:47:14.160 --> 1:47:16.160 Looking in the mirror, do I look good? I got 1:47:16.160 --> 1:47:18.479 my extra bands on, I got my other's shoes. 1:47:18.640 --> 1:47:19.240 Be a dog. 1:47:19.520 --> 1:47:22.000 We don't need no mews. We don't need no more cats. 1:47:22.120 --> 1:47:23.320 We need more dogs. 1:47:23.840 --> 1:47:24.640 So he was uh. 1:47:25.080 --> 1:47:28.400 He preceded this by telling a story about getting his 1:47:28.439 --> 1:47:31.920 sons ready for a golf tournament. And a cat got 1:47:31.960 --> 1:47:34.240 stuck in their screen door at their house, and he 1:47:34.400 --> 1:47:35.960 was yelling to his sons. 1:47:35.720 --> 1:47:37.800 There's a cat in the house. What, there's a cat 1:47:37.800 --> 1:47:38.160 in the house. 1:47:38.160 --> 1:47:40.519 And he went this whole back and forth, and uh, 1:47:40.800 --> 1:47:43.479 he starts meowing a bunch, and then he lays into 1:47:43.479 --> 1:47:44.439 this about dogs. 1:47:44.439 --> 1:47:48.200 Baby Coastal needed some dogs, and that, right there is 1:47:48.240 --> 1:47:57.439 why football players and coaches have the dumb tag. Yes, 1:47:57.880 --> 1:48:01.719 right there, that is that is what are we doing. 1:48:01.880 --> 1:48:05.280 He's not wrong. You know, cats with dogs. 1:48:04.960 --> 1:48:05.639 He's not wrong. 1:48:06.840 --> 1:48:07.559 I can get it. 1:48:07.640 --> 1:48:12.439 But I transcription too. Where we get this transcription from? 1:48:12.640 --> 1:48:14.840 Uh? I just wrote it after the. 1:48:14.880 --> 1:48:19.360 Thing because some dogs are og and some dogs are 1:48:19.400 --> 1:48:22.439 a And I think it actually works with how I. 1:48:22.439 --> 1:48:27.400 Think he d d a W referring to the yeah. 1:48:26.840 --> 1:48:28.400 Yeah, like we need to be playing more like a 1:48:28.439 --> 1:48:30.360 dog with an Oh great, I need a dag. 1:48:30.720 --> 1:48:31.800 Yeah, be a dog. 1:48:31.840 --> 1:48:34.080 I think be a dog? Could be an a a 1:48:34.280 --> 1:48:37.160 w G. More dogs. Yeah, you needed to go. 1:48:37.280 --> 1:48:40.960 A w G dog is like a bat like dirty dog. 1:48:42.280 --> 1:48:45.960 That's like what this is. This is I wouldn't say 1:48:46.040 --> 1:48:50.639 dumb tag, but I'm pretty sure after this. In looking 1:48:50.680 --> 1:48:54.360 back on this in twenty twenty four. This coach. Do 1:48:54.400 --> 1:48:57.000 you think he wins? Is a little like I shouldn't 1:48:57.000 --> 1:48:57.559 have said that. 1:48:57.560 --> 1:49:00.519 I wonder. I mean, this is one of the I mean, 1:49:00.560 --> 1:49:02.160 like when you're pulling out the sound effects when. 1:49:02.080 --> 1:49:06.519 You're great analogy. I'm an analogy guy. But uh, where's 1:49:06.560 --> 1:49:08.120 he at? Let me see what he's up. 1:49:08.000 --> 1:49:11.400 To these last he was an administrative person at Lensington 1:49:11.520 --> 1:49:13.400 School District one in South Carolina. 1:49:13.439 --> 1:49:16.200 I love it baby high School. Yeah. 1:49:16.320 --> 1:49:20.880 Yeah, probably getting paid a boat load too because he's viral. Hey, yeah, 1:49:21.080 --> 1:49:23.320 the guys cashing in. Let's go coach. 1:49:23.479 --> 1:49:25.960 Coastal Carolina, home of Isaiah likely. 1:49:26.080 --> 1:49:32.240 Isaiah like love Isaiah likely beast? Oh is this a 1:49:32.320 --> 1:49:36.479 coach Belichick? Yeah? Let's me and Jack should wait? Two hands? 1:49:36.600 --> 1:49:38.240 What do you want to be reporter? 1:49:38.439 --> 1:49:40.920 Or do you want to be Bill? Someone who wants 1:49:40.960 --> 1:49:41.240 to me Bill? 1:49:41.320 --> 1:49:43.000 I feel like the guy that does the best Bill impression. 1:49:43.040 --> 1:49:43.639 You want to be Bill? 1:49:43.760 --> 1:49:44.280 I'll be Bill. 1:49:44.600 --> 1:49:45.639 Do you want to be the reporter? 1:49:46.360 --> 1:49:47.160 Yeah? I'll be reported? 1:49:47.240 --> 1:49:51.240 Okay ready, Jewels, Yeah, your team has been successful for 1:49:51.280 --> 1:49:53.240 so long. How difficult is it to adjust to the 1:49:53.240 --> 1:49:55.920 adversity of Monday night's game and to get back on track? 1:49:56.439 --> 1:49:58.400 This team in this organization hasn't had these sort of 1:49:58.439 --> 1:50:01.720 issues in the past. Or we're on the Cincinnati You 1:50:01.760 --> 1:50:02.920 mentioned Tom Brady's age. 1:50:02.960 --> 1:50:05.680 Well, we're on to Cincinnati. Do you think having a 1:50:05.720 --> 1:50:09.120 third that we're on to Cincinnati? Nothing about the past, 1:50:09.360 --> 1:50:13.960 nothing about the future. Right now, we're preparing for Cincinnati. 1:50:14.080 --> 1:50:14.599 Do you think the. 1:50:14.479 --> 1:50:15.639 Talent you have here is good? 1:50:15.680 --> 1:50:18.120 We're getting ready for Cincinnati. 1:50:18.240 --> 1:50:20.000 Do you think you've done enough to help Tom Brady? 1:50:20.200 --> 1:50:23.719 We're getting ready for Cincinnati, That's what we're doing. 1:50:26.040 --> 1:50:27.479 And then I think we all know it ended up 1:50:27.479 --> 1:50:31.320 happening in that twenty fourteen season with the New England Patriots. 1:50:31.520 --> 1:50:34.679 Everyone that you're going to beat the Seattle Seahawks. 1:50:34.760 --> 1:50:38.599 I remember we had an important shoot that Tuesday after 1:50:38.640 --> 1:50:41.760 the Cincinnati game, and when you were playing, it was 1:50:41.760 --> 1:50:46.040 always like, hope the Pats fucking win, otherwise shoots getting canceled, 1:50:46.400 --> 1:50:48.680 and I remember being very happy that you guys kicked 1:50:48.680 --> 1:50:50.680 the ship out of the Bengals for that. 1:50:50.680 --> 1:50:53.439 Shit we had. Was it Google last, I don't know, 1:50:53.600 --> 1:50:54.680 it was later than that. 1:50:55.400 --> 1:50:57.240 Was it Coach Up? I don't know. 1:50:57.439 --> 1:50:58.400 I have to look that up because I. 1:50:58.439 --> 1:51:04.599 Just remember riding on the Cincinnati game forty three to seventeen. Baby, well, 1:51:04.600 --> 1:51:06.320 but now was Andy Dalton back then? 1:51:06.560 --> 1:51:11.639 Oh red rockets, Oh coach now in the media, Chatty Caddy. 1:51:11.720 --> 1:51:15.719 Now he Chatty Caddy A far cry from this guy. Oh, 1:51:16.439 --> 1:51:17.400 oh my gosh, coach. 1:51:17.800 --> 1:51:19.040 Do we have a favorite out of these? 1:51:22.600 --> 1:51:24.160 I like Danny Dennis Green. 1:51:24.560 --> 1:51:27.920 I like Danny Green. I think the best Danny Danny. 1:51:27.920 --> 1:51:29.640 I think it just had the most, It had the 1:51:29.640 --> 1:51:32.960 most passion behind it, It had the viger It felt 1:51:32.960 --> 1:51:34.719 so authentic, it was real. 1:51:35.320 --> 1:51:35.759 Man. 1:51:35.880 --> 1:51:38.120 Yeah, I don't know that one that that seems a little. 1:51:38.280 --> 1:51:39.479 Yeah he was posturing. 1:51:39.560 --> 1:51:43.400 I think, yeah, Arizona team was dogshit and dogshit for 1:51:43.400 --> 1:51:46.479 a while, Like then they should have won that game. 1:51:46.600 --> 1:51:51.400 Dennis Green is legitimately like really like hurt and mad 1:51:51.439 --> 1:51:51.840 about this. 1:51:51.960 --> 1:51:53.559 Yes, yeah, that's a. 1:51:53.520 --> 1:51:55.320 Man that just blew a thirteen point lead in the. 1:51:55.400 --> 1:51:57.160 Jim Mora is just like he's over it. 1:51:57.240 --> 1:51:59.200 He might be my favorite just because I just will 1:51:59.240 --> 1:51:59.759 some cod. 1:52:00.120 --> 1:52:05.920 He's conceded to be. He's done singletary growing experience. 1:52:06.479 --> 1:52:07.200 I guess I. 1:52:07.120 --> 1:52:09.639 Will say, Jim Mora in the studio when we're hanging 1:52:09.680 --> 1:52:12.280 around than that house, if you will, like occasionally I'll 1:52:12.320 --> 1:52:14.639 just do a playoffs. And then from the other room 1:52:14.920 --> 1:52:17.400 often Jack will be like, you're playing it within the game, 1:52:18.120 --> 1:52:20.800 or we're just trying to win a game. 1:52:21.000 --> 1:52:23.040 Yeah, don't talk to me about playoffs. 1:52:23.360 --> 1:52:25.519 These are all like the fact that these have such 1:52:25.600 --> 1:52:28.080 staying power in the sports lexicon, or. 1:52:28.080 --> 1:52:31.240 Even just herm is just frustrated. Is just frustrated, Like 1:52:31.439 --> 1:52:34.000 with this, he's like the question. He let the question 1:52:34.120 --> 1:52:35.040 get to him a little bit. 1:52:35.160 --> 1:52:35.680 Oh big time. 1:52:35.760 --> 1:52:39.360 That's that. And then Daven Bennett, I don't know, was 1:52:39.400 --> 1:52:42.240 he trying to go viral? It seemed like it. I mean, 1:52:42.280 --> 1:52:44.120 I don't think he was, but it just seemed like it. 1:52:44.720 --> 1:52:46.559 What do you guys think? And you want to hear 1:52:46.600 --> 1:52:48.040 about that in the questions? 1:52:48.960 --> 1:52:50.360 I can only imagine. 1:52:50.880 --> 1:52:54.920 And then Bill like, this isn't really a rant. This 1:52:55.120 --> 1:52:58.120 is a word. This is three words. We're on the Cincinnati. Yeah, 1:52:58.800 --> 1:53:01.040 this is considered I think in building. 1:53:01.439 --> 1:53:04.280 Rant is a word that we can change. Yeah, most 1:53:04.360 --> 1:53:04.640 like them. 1:53:04.680 --> 1:53:07.200 He loves yes now. 1:53:07.880 --> 1:53:09.960 I've heard him reference it a couple of times. I 1:53:10.479 --> 1:53:13.040 listened to one on his ship. He's I think he's good. 1:53:13.120 --> 1:53:14.720 People want us to do this game too, by the way, 1:53:15.040 --> 1:53:16.960 we should. They want to do the I think that's 1:53:16.960 --> 1:53:18.280 almost got to be like a two hand er. You 1:53:18.320 --> 1:53:21.400 do the week before and then you do the Kansas 1:53:21.439 --> 1:53:22.559 City game, and then you do that one. 1:53:22.560 --> 1:53:22.960 You know what I mean. 1:53:23.320 --> 1:53:25.360 Kansas City was the Kansas City the game is before. 1:53:25.439 --> 1:53:28.360 Yeah, yeah, so you do maybe your reference that one 1:53:28.360 --> 1:53:30.040 heavy and then you do this sincy blowout. I don't 1:53:30.080 --> 1:53:32.200 know what you technically consider the game that we do. 1:53:32.960 --> 1:53:33.479 It's annoyed. 1:53:33.560 --> 1:53:35.680 I can only imagine all these are two thousands what 1:53:36.280 --> 1:53:39.320 and I don't know how coach post game press conferences work, 1:53:39.520 --> 1:53:44.360 game whatever, whatever one he wants to do some Navy 1:53:44.479 --> 1:53:46.360 Army game, I would do anything. 1:53:46.439 --> 1:53:48.080 He'll do that for a million percent. 1:53:48.600 --> 1:53:55.200 Lacrosse Wesley and lacrosse Cherokees versus the goddamn Apache lacrosse game. 1:53:56.160 --> 1:53:59.160 We should we should, we should tap into a sixteen thirty. 1:54:00.320 --> 1:54:01.080 I'm three. 1:54:01.160 --> 1:54:02.680 We should happen to AI and did like what a 1:54:02.760 --> 1:54:05.320 Vincelambardi like post game would be. 1:54:05.479 --> 1:54:07.640 Oh my gosh, I know there'd probably be some like 1:54:08.160 --> 1:54:09.639 some crazy old old man. 1:54:09.880 --> 1:54:13.160 Flying around Vincelambardi like if they did post game press 1:54:13.200 --> 1:54:14.639 conferences and there was video. 1:54:14.680 --> 1:54:19.479 Ye outside it outside an't gonna counter up follow. 1:54:19.680 --> 1:54:22.559 Hey, I don't know why I made him in nineteen 1:54:22.600 --> 1:54:23.480 twenties gangster. 1:54:23.360 --> 1:54:23.880 Because he is. 1:54:25.760 --> 1:54:27.599 I'm looking at this box score of this Cardinals game, 1:54:27.640 --> 1:54:29.200 Matt Liner versus Rex Grossman. 1:54:29.520 --> 1:54:32.680 What a game? She's Louise, Matt Lioner, Man. 1:54:32.680 --> 1:54:34.880 And Cam Bolden twelve catches one hundred and thirty six 1:54:35.000 --> 1:54:36.120 yards of ads. 1:54:36.560 --> 1:54:38.600 It's Matt Lioner's son's birthday here soon. 1:54:39.240 --> 1:54:43.400 I just did like an email thing for it. How 1:54:43.400 --> 1:54:46.680 would you possibly what did you just say, Matt Liner? Yeah? 1:54:46.760 --> 1:54:47.760 Why why do you know it? 1:54:48.560 --> 1:54:50.680 Because I literally just had to do an email for 1:54:51.680 --> 1:54:53.760 like a you know, like a well wishous thing. 1:54:54.000 --> 1:54:55.840 Oh, I actually send an email A nice guy. 1:54:56.480 --> 1:54:59.400 Whatever I send, it could be it could have I 1:54:59.480 --> 1:55:01.320 think it's uh or graduation. 1:55:01.600 --> 1:55:04.840 He's a stud player. He is. He's getting some looks man. 1:55:05.560 --> 1:55:08.280 But man, that was fun. That was a fun episode 1:55:08.280 --> 1:55:08.640 with Vernon. 1:55:09.040 --> 1:55:10.120 One thing quick on Vernon. 1:55:11.160 --> 1:55:13.480 When we book a guest, it's often like there's a 1:55:13.520 --> 1:55:15.280 there's a little bit of a dance on figuring out 1:55:15.320 --> 1:55:18.480 the game. Oftentimes it's asking them what game they want 1:55:18.520 --> 1:55:19.840 to do, But sometimes you know, you have to be 1:55:19.960 --> 1:55:21.640 limited with the amount of communications just to kind of 1:55:21.680 --> 1:55:22.360 point it in and. 1:55:22.400 --> 1:55:23.040 Get them locked in. 1:55:23.520 --> 1:55:25.080 And with this one, he we asked the game and 1:55:25.160 --> 1:55:28.480 literally in seconds he had this game and we're like, yes, 1:55:28.920 --> 1:55:29.400 he knows this. 1:55:29.600 --> 1:55:32.560 He knows the fucking assignment and we were so pumped 1:55:32.600 --> 1:55:33.600 to do this game with Vernon. 1:55:33.760 --> 1:55:36.280 It's clearly prepared. You hear what he takes his acting career. 1:55:37.080 --> 1:55:39.839 He probably did some serious Earnie homework on this goddamn 1:55:39.880 --> 1:55:41.080 podcast before he came here. 1:55:41.720 --> 1:55:42.600 He's Ernie ship. 1:55:42.920 --> 1:55:44.720 I didn't I didn't see to prepare. 1:55:45.200 --> 1:55:47.400 I mean, he had some impressions, he must have. I 1:55:47.440 --> 1:55:49.200 don't know if he's an impression guy. I know he's 1:55:49.200 --> 1:55:52.000 an actor, but he knows that we do impressions, so 1:55:52.160 --> 1:55:54.200 he came in light. I mean that was that was 1:55:54.240 --> 1:55:56.080 some fire, straight fire. 1:55:56.400 --> 1:55:57.160 Let it rip baby. 1:55:57.240 --> 1:56:00.560 Shout out Vernon, thanks for coming to those watch plan 1:56:00.720 --> 1:56:04.520 b playing b Baby seventy two hours, seventy two hours, 1:56:04.800 --> 1:56:05.240 two hours and. 1:56:06.960 --> 1:56:08.040 Seventy two hours or. 1:56:08.440 --> 1:56:10.640 Or no, uh that was the other one. 1:56:10.680 --> 1:56:13.040 This horror. My guy, He's in so many got. 1:56:14.800 --> 1:56:22.360 Bruce Willis three movies memoirs starting based love It And 1:56:22.480 --> 1:56:25.080 that's been another episode of Games with Names presented by 1:56:25.280 --> 1:56:30.880 Jamison Irish Whiskey. 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