Speaker 1: How did Patrick Willis eat his steak?
Speaker 2: He will eat his steak with his hands, fingers.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm I literally tell everyone, I don't want
Speaker 1: my middle linebacker eating a steak with a working knife.
Speaker 3: You better pick that thing up with his hand. Absolutely,
Speaker 3: get in there. I'm telling you, guys, you can't teach this.
Speaker 1: The palm of his hand with his plate. Welcome to
Speaker 1: Games with Names. I'm Julian Edelman. They're Jack and Kyler,
Speaker 1: and we're on a mission to find the greatest.
Speaker 3: Game of all time.
Speaker 1: On today's episode, we are covering the infamous two thousand
Speaker 1: and eight week a game between the Seattle Seahawks and
Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty nine Ers with Super Bowl champion
Speaker 1: Maryland great author, actor creative Guy Burnon Davis, and we
Speaker 1: get into talking how this game changed the outlook on football,
Speaker 1: on his life.
Speaker 2: And my young mind. I'm thinking, like this guy doing
Speaker 2: this guy think he is? I look back, that's the
Speaker 2: situation I needed that.
Speaker 1: How he became Hollywood actor? How was it acting with
Speaker 1: Morgan Freeman man I was so nervous being there for
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning's last game.
Speaker 2: I've never seen anything like it. I've played with some
Speaker 2: awesome quarterbacks. Yeah, but he was just he was just different.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: And then we get into some of the great coaching
Speaker 1: rants Stanny Green.
Speaker 3: Oh, that was a good one. They are we thought
Speaker 3: they were.
Speaker 1: So you gotta stick around to the very end. Let's
Speaker 1: go Games with Names is a production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 3: October twenty eight, two thousand and eight.
Speaker 1: The Stick Candlestick, San Francisco, California.
Speaker 3: Can I play with them? Can I win with them?
Speaker 3: Can I coach with him? Can't do it? This is
Speaker 3: can I Play with them?
Speaker 4: Games?
Speaker 1: Man? I was in Boston for thirteen years. I'd come
Speaker 1: out here in the off seasons. My daughter was out here,
Speaker 1: so this is perfect for you then kind of yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Mean you got to see a daughter.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, she's here every Monday Tuesday win So like,
Speaker 1: now that's great, but that's awesome, you know, it's.
Speaker 2: Just it's it's it's awesome that you have a Yeah.
Speaker 2: I didn't know you had a kid either, So that's cool. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's cool.
Speaker 1: It's been you know, it's a lot, but it's a lot,
Speaker 1: but it's like a daughter, man, I know, I know.
Speaker 1: It's so fun though, Yeah, and it's it's honestly The
Speaker 1: most happy or the most excitement I get is when
Speaker 1: I see like something my daughter's worked on, whether it's
Speaker 1: in class, school presentation or on the sport field. And
Speaker 1: seeing when she's put some work into that and her
Speaker 1: progression and her real life, her progression through her hard
Speaker 1: work like that right there gets me fucking toasty.
Speaker 3: That's awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's start this thing up. Welcome to Games
Speaker 1: with Names. Today, we are talking week eight of the
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight season Seahawks versus the forty nine
Speaker 1: Ers legendary can't Win with Him game with nobody other
Speaker 1: than Vernon Davis. Welcome to Games the Names, bro. I
Speaker 1: appreciate thank you for being in the nuthouse. In one sentence,
Speaker 1: why did you pick this game?
Speaker 3: Because I like the game? Because I love the game?
Speaker 3: You love the game A specific game, Yeah, this specific game.
Speaker 3: I love this game. Why. Oh, it's just something, it's exciting.
Speaker 2: It's it's just like you think about this game, it
Speaker 2: reminds me of a lot of the competitions that I had.
Speaker 3: The competition that I had against the Seahawks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean. It was like, man,
Speaker 2: they were that team that we just couldn't stop yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean those guys were I mean they had everybody
Speaker 2: Camp Chancellor, Russell Wilson, me named, they had all the players, man,
Speaker 2: I mean just like us, we had players too, but
Speaker 2: those guys were hard to stop.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a fun this like generation of the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers is kind of that foundational second jump
Speaker 1: from what I'm wearing the ninety five Niners, because there
Speaker 1: was a long span after that where you know, ten
Speaker 1: years they're bouncing from quarterback to quarterback, and you did
Speaker 1: that here in this game. But this specific team and
Speaker 1: what you're a part of I was a fan of
Speaker 1: as a kid, and like these these grindy type years
Speaker 1: were a necessity to get to where you guys eventually got.
Speaker 1: When you guys were you were playing in super Bowls
Speaker 1: and stuff. Again, so like this is a fun game,
Speaker 1: and it's a real cool game that I I think
Speaker 1: you picked because it's probably a transformational game for you
Speaker 1: mentality wise. After you know, Coach Singletary you know, goes out,
Speaker 1: calls you out in front of everyone, and like after
Speaker 1: this year you had like your like springboard your career.
Speaker 3: Was this that turning point in your career talking about
Speaker 3: just being weak, just the week.
Speaker 1: Ye, the week of that game, this is the this
Speaker 1: is after this game is when he kicked you out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, man, it was just I don't
Speaker 2: say I would say that it was a Yeah, I'd
Speaker 2: say it was a turning point in my career because
Speaker 2: if you think of a young man coming into this league,
Speaker 2: I mean you think, you know, you know all the answers,
Speaker 2: but you don't until you your career start starts, right, because, uh,
Speaker 2: this game, I mean there's a lot that goes with it.
Speaker 2: You know, on a university, you're in a space where
Speaker 2: anything can happen, and the biggest thing you need to
Speaker 2: do is just work on your mental health because mental
Speaker 2: mental health is everything. And and for me, I was struggling,
Speaker 2: struggling mentally, and I needed something to just put me
Speaker 2: back on track. And I believe the incident with Coach
Speaker 2: Singletary was the moment where I realized that, Hey, if
Speaker 2: I'm going to be a leader, it has to start now.
Speaker 1: Wow, is this the greatest game of all time? I
Speaker 1: don't know, that's a good question, we asked our guests.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the greatest game of all time.
Speaker 3: What's life looking like these days? Uh? For me?
Speaker 2: You know, it's just I just focused on the creativity,
Speaker 2: from producing films to acting music. I recently bought a farm,
Speaker 2: focused on my horses, riding horse, trying to get better.
Speaker 2: But man's that's the key. I think that's the key
Speaker 2: of life. Just doing the things that you love and
Speaker 2: the things that make you happy.
Speaker 1: Tell us about this farm. What is this farm? We
Speaker 1: were talking about it before the show is what's this farm?
Speaker 3: Thing? You got going? Yeah? This farm is? Uh, you know,
Speaker 3: I this farm.
Speaker 2: I credit my brother for just the dreams I had
Speaker 2: before I bought this farm.
Speaker 3: Like my brother, I take you back.
Speaker 2: My brother wanted to create this space where he wanted
Speaker 2: animals walking around the house and walking outside. But he
Speaker 2: didn't have enough acres for that, but he still wanted it.
Speaker 3: And before he.
Speaker 2: Passed away, well after he passed away, I started having
Speaker 2: dreams and one dream was that I had a farm,
Speaker 2: and I woke up. I remember waking up that morning
Speaker 2: getting on Zilo looking for a farm, and I called this.
Speaker 2: A friend of mine has his company props release and
Speaker 2: moved for free, and I thought about them. I reached
Speaker 2: out to her, I said, hey, can you can you
Speaker 2: can you find me a farm?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: She couldn't find anything. So then a friend of mine
Speaker 2: called me later, like two weeks after that and say, hey,
Speaker 2: I got I found this farm. You want to go
Speaker 2: half on it? I said, no, not really, I'm not
Speaker 2: really interested right now. I was looking, but I'm good now.
Speaker 2: But I actually got.
Speaker 3: I called.
Speaker 2: I called Moved for Free and props Move for Free,
Speaker 2: the company that my friend has. I said, hey, can
Speaker 2: you show me this farm? And they took me on
Speaker 2: the farm and I fell in love. I said I
Speaker 2: wanted pay cash for it, bought it right then, and
Speaker 2: there got.
Speaker 1: A farm, got a farm, and now you're a farm owner.
Speaker 3: Now I'm a farmer, farmer. Let's go, let's go.
Speaker 1: What's your favorite farm animal?
Speaker 2: My favorite farm animal? I would probably have to go with,
Speaker 2: uh man. I would like to say the goat or
Speaker 2: the chickens, but uh or maybe the turtle, but I
Speaker 2: can't say that.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to go with Big Joe. I just
Speaker 3: bought Big Joe, big horse, big, big talking oh man.
Speaker 3: He's a Belgian. Belgian. Yeah, he's a Belgian.
Speaker 1: I think I would have to go with the horse too.
Speaker 1: My daughter loves horses, and you know, we went out
Speaker 1: to Hawaiian. My agent set us up with this awesome
Speaker 1: place where you get to ride the horses on the beach,
Speaker 1: and uh, you really do get a.
Speaker 3: Connection with that animal when you're on it. You know
Speaker 3: what I mean?
Speaker 1: You got this big stud thing that you're on because
Speaker 1: I was on a big ass horse.
Speaker 3: I don't know what is it. I'm a horse guy.
Speaker 3: I got all this thing.
Speaker 1: I was like, I didn't want to show a no
Speaker 1: feury thing, but I was sitting there. I just got
Speaker 1: out of them. I was like, yeah, I feel them.
Speaker 1: I feel that's a connection. It's a good connection. It's
Speaker 1: a connection, right man.
Speaker 3: So you you grew up in dumb you grew up
Speaker 3: in d C. I grew up in Washington, d C.
Speaker 1: You went to Dunbar, Josh Cribs my Kent State alone
Speaker 1: went to That's right?
Speaker 3: Well man, how was that? What was in that water?
Speaker 1: Because a lot of we had a lot of good,
Speaker 1: really good football players come.
Speaker 3: Out of there. Yeah, how was Josh too? In high school?
Speaker 3: Kent State? Huh out of Dunbar, Kent State, out of Dumbar.
Speaker 1: I felt like in that area, we had a lot
Speaker 1: of Dunbar guys that went to Kent State yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Daryl Dowry, Darryl Dowry, Yeah yeah, I played with him
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah man, that's there was a
Speaker 1: lot of DC cats school.
Speaker 2: I actually took a visit there myself, did you unofficial,
Speaker 2: but I took a visit to Kent came bro I know, man,
Speaker 2: I don't. I just it was something about Maryland, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean? You know, I just wanted to
Speaker 2: stay close to home, and it's a.
Speaker 3: Way banners.
Speaker 5: Football and academics too.
Speaker 3: Maryland's pretty damn nice. Yeah, it was pretty nice. Now
Speaker 3: they are now that they're Big ten?
Speaker 1: Yeah, easy, man, what's up with that? How do you
Speaker 1: feel about that? The whole they're in the Big ten now?
Speaker 1: That's kind of weird, isn't it. Yeah, it is weird,
Speaker 1: but I think it's good. I'm an a CC guy, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it is. It is kind of weird that they're
Speaker 1: Big ten now. But hey, look, I appreciate anything that's
Speaker 1: gonna help the team win. I'm all about it. As
Speaker 1: well as at a father school.
Speaker 3: They've done that. I mean, the school's beautiful and.
Speaker 1: You're probably going to get better recruits because you're in
Speaker 1: the Big ten, right.
Speaker 2: The facilities, and you know, just every money there comes
Speaker 2: down to money, the bottom line, right right.
Speaker 3: What was Cribs like in high school? Cribs was, uh,
Speaker 3: he's bad. He was very he was quiet. Quiet, Yeah,
Speaker 3: he say he was a little quiet. He said young.
Speaker 3: Hebserved a young what's up? Yeah? Young? What's you come on? Joe?
Speaker 3: He always I remember him always saying, hey, yea so
Speaker 3: funny man, Yeah, what's up? Yah? Oh man? What year
Speaker 3: were you? He was there? I was going, he was there.
Speaker 3: I got there two years after he left.
Speaker 1: But he was a legend there and he was in
Speaker 1: Cleveland and when we were when Cleveland was right next to Kent,
Speaker 1: so he would come back to school every once in
Speaker 1: a while and stuff, and he was like a fucking
Speaker 1: god out there. He was onside of like buildings and
Speaker 1: shipped in Cleveland. He was he was the man.
Speaker 3: Man. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: Like, you know, I was following because we you know,
Speaker 1: I was like the second quarterback after.
Speaker 3: Him when he left.
Speaker 1: And then you know, there was always comparisons. You know,
Speaker 1: run I was running quarterback and Shosh Cribbs was fucking
Speaker 1: Josh Cribs doing what he was doing in the league.
Speaker 1: So you know, I always loved the cribs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, cribs, cribs to the crib, cribs to the crib
Speaker 3: ribs to the crib.
Speaker 1: Faster than what you think. Oh yeah, way faster than you.
Speaker 1: Was like that in high school. Man, he was like
Speaker 1: that out in high school.
Speaker 3: He was.
Speaker 1: Now, you must have been a beast in high school
Speaker 1: because you were an athletic specimen. And I remember as
Speaker 1: because you, you know, I was a Niners fan when
Speaker 1: they drafted you. You know, you had a huge spike
Speaker 1: in your because of your combine numbers. You would you
Speaker 1: run four to three, jumped out the roof, you were
Speaker 1: two fifty five or something.
Speaker 3: You were just a freaking freak.
Speaker 1: And then your first few years, you know, you were
Speaker 1: kind of feeling it out, and then you became like
Speaker 1: you became like pretty much a wide receiver like you
Speaker 1: you would you'd be in but you were so athletic
Speaker 1: and such a dominant force in the past game. I
Speaker 1: remember Alex Smith widening you out. You'd be a tight
Speaker 1: end on an island outside against corners, running go routes,
Speaker 1: running by people Like were you like this in high
Speaker 1: school or did you work for this or are you
Speaker 1: just a specimen. What is your How did you train?
Speaker 1: What the hell? What's going on? I said, how did
Speaker 1: you train?
Speaker 3: No? Man, I was I was always able to run.
Speaker 2: That was that was my That was my bread and butter,
Speaker 2: being able to run fast fast.
Speaker 3: I've always been fast.
Speaker 2: But what happened was when I got to college, I
Speaker 2: was able to keep my speed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my speed never left.
Speaker 2: It was like I got bigger, two hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: pounds still running the four four four three.
Speaker 3: It was the craziest thing. I mean it even it
Speaker 3: even amazed me. I didn't.
Speaker 2: I'm like wow, because I figured, you know, you get bigger, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you loose loose speed. Yeah, but I was able to
Speaker 2: keep my speed, and it was it was all.
Speaker 3: It was always a great asset. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Man, I just remember you running by guys and you'd
Speaker 1: have fifty to sixty yard touchdowns at least once every
Speaker 1: two weeks. It was fucking gnarly. And you and Cap Hatter,
Speaker 1: I mean you guys went to the Superowl. Guy was
Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl?
Speaker 3: What do you do? Now? Do you to keep staying
Speaker 3: in shape? Now? I you know I don't live, I
Speaker 3: don't lift heavyweight. I'll tell you that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't. I can't lift the heavyweight. My shoulders
Speaker 2: a little, a little banged up. But I work out
Speaker 2: five days a week. Yeah, no lightweight, you know. Still
Speaker 2: I sprint every now and then. But I just just
Speaker 2: maintain good working, just good working habits. Move to the way, yeah, movement,
Speaker 2: just staying nice and uh nice and loose, stretching and yeah, massages.
Speaker 1: I still get the massages twice a week. See, I
Speaker 1: gotta get back in it. Oh you don't get massages anymore,
Speaker 1: you know what? Oh?
Speaker 3: Man, I know.
Speaker 1: It's so stupid because you go from like a Kobe
Speaker 1: Beef like cow where you're massaged every two minutes, go
Speaker 1: work out, you have perfect hydration, you eat like a
Speaker 1: fucking king, You got the best gas.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like that, everything's dietitioned to what you get, you the best.
Speaker 1: And then when you retire, like you lose four of
Speaker 1: those things, and that's a lot, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You don't have the diet the same, You don't get
Speaker 1: the bodywork, you know, running out, you don't do the stretch.
Speaker 3: So I got to get back on it. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's tough.
Speaker 2: It's tough, especially when you you know, like like us
Speaker 2: right now, we're not playing ball and so many other things.
Speaker 1: That your bodies, like our bodies aren't are they're not
Speaker 1: our number one.
Speaker 3: Source of income now. Yeah, yeah, you're right, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean.
Speaker 1: So it's not my When I was playing, everything was
Speaker 1: predicated towards my recovery my body because that was my
Speaker 1: money maker and that's what was providing for my family.
Speaker 3: Now like it's not like now I.
Speaker 1: Have fucking meetings I gotta do because I'm doing podcasts.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You got, you got other things that I used to
Speaker 1: say no to me because I had to get my body
Speaker 1: work in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know what you mean.
Speaker 2: I can feel that that that clock, just that alarm
Speaker 2: goes off in my mind though whenever I'm just whenever
Speaker 2: I'm sitting back and I know I haven't been to
Speaker 2: the gym, because I get moments where you know, I'm working,
Speaker 2: I've been to the gym in four or five days.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the alarm goes off, like, man, I gotta get
Speaker 6: back in the gym, Gotta get back, gotta get back. Well,
Speaker 6: let me jump in real quick. I've got a question
Speaker 6: for you, Vernon before we move on from that combine.
Speaker 6: It was a pretty kind of viral moment before viral
Speaker 6: moments were really happening. When you ran that four to
Speaker 6: three in the combine.
Speaker 7: Can you talk a little bit what it was like
Speaker 7: in Indianapolis and then what kind of opportunities happened or
Speaker 7: things happened in between the draft and the combine.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, going from going from well I left Arizona,
Speaker 2: I was training in Arizona before the combine and Athlete's
Speaker 2: performance is where it was between that time and going.
Speaker 3: To the draft.
Speaker 2: It was, Man, it was like I just kept hearing
Speaker 2: that song by eminem you only get one shot, you
Speaker 2: have missed your chance to you know, opportunities come once
Speaker 2: in the lifetime.
Speaker 3: That song just kept going off inside my mind.
Speaker 2: Then when I got to the combine, I started listen
Speaker 2: into that song and I just I knew I was
Speaker 2: only going to get one shot and if I didn't
Speaker 2: capitalize on it, that was it. Because being at Maryland,
Speaker 2: you know, I wasn't Yeah, I was up for the
Speaker 2: MACKI every week and things of that nature, but they
Speaker 2: didn't talk about me much. It was always Mercedes Lewis.
Speaker 2: Mercedes Lewis, he was you know, he was the big shot.
Speaker 2: And it came to the tight end position, and I
Speaker 2: knew that I had to go to this combine and
Speaker 2: I had to outperform everyone. And I did. And in
Speaker 2: between that time, after I had my performance and getting drafted,
Speaker 2: oh there was all there was. My agent was coming
Speaker 2: up to He's like, you got a shot. You got
Speaker 2: a chance to get drafted the top top ten, top ten,
Speaker 2: it's always top ten. But I would go to these
Speaker 2: meetings and I started meeting with these teams, you know,
Speaker 2: you meet with the teams and things of that nature.
Speaker 2: And I met with the Jets, and I knew they
Speaker 2: had the fourth pick they wouldna get. They had the
Speaker 2: fourth pick in the draft. I said, I'm about to
Speaker 2: be I'm about to be top four. I'm about to be.
Speaker 2: I mean, we would sitting we sat there, we watched
Speaker 2: film and they were talking about how they were going
Speaker 2: to utilize me at the position.
Speaker 3: I just knew they won't take me. They take Ferguson,
Speaker 3: not a. I put my head in. You wanted to
Speaker 3: be in the big apple. You wanted to be in
Speaker 3: the big Apple. I wanted to be in a big apple.
Speaker 1: You make it here, you can make it anywhere. The Jets,
Speaker 1: I mean the brickshaw Ferguson played a very He was
Speaker 1: a really good football player for a very long time.
Speaker 1: So like they didn't miss miss On, like not getting
Speaker 1: because he was a corner center of that organization for
Speaker 1: a while.
Speaker 3: He was good even at UVA. He was very talented.
Speaker 4: You could have Vernon Davis Vernon. You imagine Broadway Vern
Speaker 4: freaking jets. Verne got a nice ring to it.
Speaker 3: You got Broadway Vern over here here.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: I like that.
Speaker 1: Oh man, but you wouldn't have had those division rivals
Speaker 1: against the Seattle Seahawks, and you wouldn't. I'm in the
Speaker 1: same club getting that hit from Cam Chancellor. How about
Speaker 1: that hit?
Speaker 3: Oh can you still feel it? Oh? You said, I
Speaker 3: just turned my head. I felt that explosion. Wait leads
Speaker 3: the boom legion of boom Man that you get hit? Yeah,
Speaker 3: he hits you. Physical, physical, it's smart. Yeah he was. Like.
Speaker 3: He reminds me a lot. Patrick Willis.
Speaker 2: I mean, like I mean when I think of Camp Chancellor,
Speaker 2: I think about Patrick Willis.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean those guys are just physical, physical, physical.
Speaker 1: What about I remember when we played them in the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, and I've only competed against him a few times.
Speaker 1: But I just remember him always being like a pretty respectable,
Speaker 1: like gentleman on the field, like he whipped your ass
Speaker 1: and he'd let you know, but he wouldn't talk about it.
Speaker 3: He's like he was like polite with it. He's like good,
Speaker 3: good rip, you know what I mean, Like, do you
Speaker 3: remember that about Camber?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he was very polite. He was like it was.
Speaker 3: He never talked. He was very just like focused, locked in, focused, possessed.
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't only imagine how how much force
Speaker 1: was in between you and him, like because I remember
Speaker 1: hating him and if he felt like a stumped tree,
Speaker 1: like he didn't move, like I had to go get
Speaker 1: the force on him, and like you are. I just
Speaker 1: I would never want to be in between that he
Speaker 1: might get crushed.
Speaker 3: What about? What about? How about Patrick Willis? Patrick was?
Speaker 2: He was He's one of those type of guys. He
Speaker 2: talked if he needed to, but he was kind of
Speaker 2: like one of those guys. He was always locked in.
Speaker 2: He was on a mission. He was always want one.
Speaker 2: One thing I knew for sure is that when it
Speaker 2: came to game day and it's time to play, Patrick
Speaker 2: will Willis was one of those guys that was want
Speaker 2: to bring it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you didn't have to worry about him.
Speaker 1: No, how did Patrick Willis eat his steak?
Speaker 2: He would eat his steak with his hands fingers.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm fucking I think I remember. I remember
Speaker 3: going into that.
Speaker 1: Hey, you see what I I literally tell everyone, I
Speaker 1: don't want my middle linebacker eating a fucking steak with
Speaker 1: a forking knife.
Speaker 3: You better pick that thing up with his hand. Absolutely,
Speaker 3: get in there. That was not even I'm.
Speaker 1: Telling you guys, you can't teach this ship. That's right, baby,
Speaker 1: that just justified me forever. I'm so excited.
Speaker 7: All right, let's about Patrick will.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, the palm of his hand was his plate.
Speaker 4: He didn't even barbecue, He ate a raw No wait,
Speaker 4: he went over here.
Speaker 1: Now we'll be right back after this quick break. Jamison
Speaker 1: would like to welcome you aboard this flight to Dublin
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Speaker 1: dot com. Let's go back to around October twenty eight,
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, this segment where we'd like to
Speaker 1: talk about pop culture around.
Speaker 3: The game, and the number one movie was.
Speaker 1: High School Musical three Senior year this two thousand and eight.
Speaker 4: Huh, big year for Efron. Baby, I don't remember that.
Speaker 3: Did you watch those high school musicals? Yeah? I had
Speaker 3: my Badley. Yeah, my sister and my cousin, they used
Speaker 3: to watch all those musicals.
Speaker 1: Now I know, I gotta Oh my goodness, my kid
Speaker 1: doesn't like musicals that much. She's starting to get into
Speaker 1: a little number one song, Womanizer by Britney Spears.
Speaker 3: Do you get you listen to britt I like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I used to listen to britt Yeah, pretty popular
Speaker 2: back then.
Speaker 1: I'm getting a lot of her too now because my
Speaker 1: daughter likes she's seven and like she likes Britney Spears.
Speaker 3: Like Britney Spears now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I you know, her mom used to probably
Speaker 1: listen to Brittany.
Speaker 3: You know my mom used to my mom, my sister
Speaker 3: will throw Britney all around her. So it's you know,
Speaker 3: it's these little kids. They like Brittany.
Speaker 4: Brittany got the staying power.
Speaker 1: She got staying power free, Britney, baby, is she is?
Speaker 3: She She's free? Yeah? Is she free?
Speaker 4: I'm just repping it still.
Speaker 3: I'm still still reping it though she just got married.
Speaker 4: That sounds really only look.
Speaker 1: Yeah, t I coming off back to back number ones.
Speaker 1: Whatever you like, Live your Life featuring Rihanna.
Speaker 3: That was some.
Speaker 1: This was like, this was my college right here. That
Speaker 1: was college. I was on a heater, Bro, he was
Speaker 1: on a heater.
Speaker 4: T I versus t I P was the year before
Speaker 4: this paper trail was this year. Man, it was he
Speaker 4: couldn't miss. This is when Rihanna was. She was just
Speaker 4: she's just coming around. She was still like doing feature.
Speaker 3: Yes she was.
Speaker 1: She was still a nature and she won. She was like,
Speaker 1: who's this new chick that's like about to blow up?
Speaker 4: She won a billionaire?
Speaker 3: Yet she won.
Speaker 4: She's a billionaire with that fenty the makeup makeup crazy.
Speaker 1: Bro, And that's what that's what the Kardashians. They're in
Speaker 1: that makeup stuff too, that they're smart.
Speaker 4: I need to start some some makeup lines or something, Bro,
Speaker 4: I need to get.
Speaker 3: A makeup.
Speaker 1: Madonna and a Rod were dating, or there were rumors
Speaker 1: sweeping the nation. Remember this when they're throwing in Madonna pictures?
Speaker 3: You know this.
Speaker 1: I don't know why we're bringing this up. This is
Speaker 1: a you know, this is a co worker of mine
Speaker 1: at Fox right who I got to talk to the
Speaker 1: producers on this one.
Speaker 7: It's just so we can have a point that fans
Speaker 7: were taunting them, so we can ask the question, what
Speaker 7: was the wildest thing a fan ever said to you?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: It was the wildest thing, the wildest, wildest.
Speaker 3: Can I say anything? Can you my wife? Can you
Speaker 3: asked my wife? Wow? I don't get involved with that
Speaker 3: kind of stuff. What city I don't get involved with?
Speaker 3: Was this in San fran fran was hometown? Yeah? That
Speaker 3: was crazy? Wow?
Speaker 2: I remember that. I vividly remember that. That's something that
Speaker 2: will never leave my memory.
Speaker 5: Oh is this like the crowd and it's coming out
Speaker 5: of a crowd.
Speaker 3: Was like a one on one kind of conversation.
Speaker 2: We just we just I was we were going, you know,
Speaker 2: there was a uh it was training camp and then
Speaker 2: we have the fans coming to camping.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm coming in, I'm walking down signing autographs.
Speaker 3: Can you oh my.
Speaker 4: Uh, sir, dude, that's like a that's like a week
Speaker 4: ten type question, pre pre season question.
Speaker 1: Man, those are the real fans that are going to
Speaker 1: the real fans are going to those pre seas or
Speaker 1: the training care.
Speaker 3: You're sitting on those metal bleachers. That was that wasn't right.
Speaker 3: That wasn't right. Did you listen to t I You
Speaker 3: can have whatever?
Speaker 9: You That was a good song, man, Man, that was
Speaker 9: right then.
Speaker 4: That was the one two thousand and was also loving
Speaker 4: this club Busher and Young Jeezy. The other good one
Speaker 4: Atlanta was up this year Atlanta. Man, did you like
Speaker 4: did you did you listen to? Did you listen to
Speaker 4: music before music game?
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah? What was in the I know what?
Speaker 2: You know what, Man, I got to the point where
Speaker 2: I started listening to like at first and again I
Speaker 2: would listen to like crunk music. I was listening to
Speaker 2: LITL John and you know what I mean, and just
Speaker 2: like man, just all the hardcore, just hype music just
Speaker 2: getting turned up. And then as I got older, I
Speaker 2: started listening to jazz.
Speaker 3: And things like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah same, yeah, yeah, jazz music, just slow music just
Speaker 2: to relax my mind, because I found that the more
Speaker 2: calm I was and relax.
Speaker 3: I was I can go out and just be more.
Speaker 3: I can go out and be more effective.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean, I do especially a
Speaker 2: year fourteen, thirteen and fourteen, it was like yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember.
Speaker 1: He used to listen to movie music, so like Hans
Speaker 1: Zimmer nice and like you listen like the Inception or
Speaker 1: the Inner Seller like soundtrack and like I liked that
Speaker 1: kind of music because it was like low key, but
Speaker 1: it allowed me to visualize my game plan. I didn't
Speaker 1: want lyrics. I wanted to think, but I wanted something
Speaker 1: to help me think. So that's what I like. I
Speaker 1: like the calm music too, because you get too hyped up,
Speaker 1: you know, you want to blow your load. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: first first first drive, you got this. This ain't a
Speaker 1: sprint and it's a marathon marathon, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: The you know, the calmer you are, the higher, the
Speaker 1: better you can get through the highs and the lows,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Absolutely saw five, Zach and
Speaker 1: Mary make a porno Secret Life, so of be What
Speaker 1: are all everyone's making movies of crazy stories? You watching
Speaker 1: that Hulu's Patriots? What is it called Aaron?
Speaker 3: Aaron? Is that Hulu? Yeah? I think that's yeah, the
Speaker 3: drama one you watch that I haven't gotten today.
Speaker 2: I don't even know if I want to watch it. Man,
Speaker 2: I just I put that behind me, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. I'm with you.
Speaker 3: You played with the guy. I know, the guy I
Speaker 3: played against him. But it's just one those things. It's
Speaker 3: like man to it is a situation. I'm with it.
Speaker 1: But there's been some really funny clips that come out,
Speaker 1: like all the of these shows, because they have people
Speaker 1: that are acting as like there's a guy that acting
Speaker 1: his Gronk in the show. There's a guy that's acting
Speaker 1: as Belichick in the show. They have some little white
Speaker 1: dude looking athletic as playing me. Uh, you know, like
Speaker 1: so they have they have all these guys.
Speaker 3: That's hilarious. I gotta go watch it now, let me
Speaker 3: go check it out. Then I gotta see this in
Speaker 3: the clips. You can see the clips on social This
Speaker 3: is funny.
Speaker 1: But who would play you, guys, those those two thousand
Speaker 1: late two thousand Super Bowl niners, who would play you
Speaker 1: in one of those shows?
Speaker 3: Actor? I don't know who would play me, man. They
Speaker 3: might have More's Chestnut playing me or so. I don't know. Yes,
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Man, can play yourself always a good one. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: would bear you act. You can play yourself. You haven't
Speaker 1: aged you know what? Yeah maybe, oh, thank you. I
Speaker 1: appreciate that. Dude looks youngest. Maybe I could play myself.
Speaker 1: Talk to us about your acting career, like this is
Speaker 1: this is really cool. You take a lot of pride
Speaker 1: in it. You got a movie plan B coming out. Uh,
Speaker 1: you were talking about your other movie that Please Don't
Speaker 1: Feed the Please Don't Feed the children. That was at
Speaker 1: what made it to the film festival?
Speaker 3: Yeah, how was that? He just Uh, it was great, man,
Speaker 3: it was. It was awesome. We had a lot of
Speaker 3: good feedback. It was pretty cool getting out of the
Speaker 3: car and no one knew me from football.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they just had my pictures from my head shots
Speaker 2: printed out.
Speaker 3: It's like bernon.
Speaker 2: I mean some of them didn't speak English. From all
Speaker 2: around the world. Love horror, Yeah, movies.
Speaker 3: It was. It was dope. I thought that was I
Speaker 3: was like, man, this is amazing.
Speaker 1: That's gotta be amazing on your part because you you've
Speaker 1: done such a great job in your football career to
Speaker 1: where you're doing something else and people are recognizing you
Speaker 1: for that. That's very inspirational for all the other guys
Speaker 1: in the leagues. That's pretty cool, man. Now, how's the
Speaker 1: transition from how did that transition go from football to
Speaker 1: what you're doing now?
Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of correlation between football and
Speaker 2: when I'm anything in the creative space, whether it's music, acting, dancing,
Speaker 2: whatever it is.
Speaker 3: It's the preparation. The preparation is the biggest part.
Speaker 2: And I tell this story, and I believe I talk
Speaker 2: about this in my book, but I tell the story
Speaker 2: about the things that I did before game day. Yeah,
Speaker 2: catching getting on the drug machine and you know, just
Speaker 2: standing in front of that machine and those balls.
Speaker 3: You know how that machine.
Speaker 2: Those balls are coming out fast and I would catch
Speaker 2: two hundred of those balls after every practice consistently. And
Speaker 2: what I do now is before I go in front
Speaker 2: of a camera, and I might get a month, three weeks,
Speaker 2: but I'm making sure that I'm super prepared before I
Speaker 2: step in front of the camera, just like game day, right,
Speaker 2: And that's the preparation that goes into it. You should
Speaker 2: be able to do anything that I have to tell
Speaker 2: you to do. You should be able to do it
Speaker 2: because you're well prepared.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's your dream role.
Speaker 2: My dream roles to play superhero. Maybe I can be
Speaker 2: the next door. I can be the next door. My
Speaker 2: name is store.
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, do you want to be a Marvel movie?
Speaker 3: I would love to be the awesome that'd be awesome.
Speaker 3: Are you? Are you big comic comic kids? I love
Speaker 3: comic I've always been in comics. I used to draw
Speaker 3: my favorite characters. Cartoon with this cartoon character. Who's your
Speaker 3: favorite character? What character? Just cartoon?
Speaker 1: Marvel, Marvel.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to go with and man, he's a
Speaker 3: Marvel guy, right, yeah, Man, he's a new character.
Speaker 2: I like, Yeah, I like him. I like I like him. Man,
Speaker 2: I think I like I'm kind of like one of
Speaker 2: those guys. I like the new the new characters, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. I like those new guys because
Speaker 2: I mean, like we used to go with some of
Speaker 2: the older guys, older characters, but the new new characters
Speaker 2: are like like it, I feel like they're going to
Speaker 2: be around for for years to come, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. We had we had like a lot of
Speaker 2: the characters like Superman, Batman.
Speaker 1: I like, I was always a DC kid, Oh really,
Speaker 1: I loved Batman, Bruce Wayne, and I was also a
Speaker 1: ninja turtle kid. I like turtles.
Speaker 3: Nice. Oh, I love.
Speaker 2: Anything that has to do with like a superhero. I
Speaker 2: want to be a part of that. I think that
Speaker 2: would be really cool.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: Spider Man was always that'd be dope. Man, How was
Speaker 1: it acting with Morgan Freeman? That was That's gonna be legendary.
Speaker 1: That was amazing, man, that was what'd you take from
Speaker 1: his professional like in the profession? Like when because you
Speaker 1: guys are working, like you know, you're kind of did
Speaker 1: you did you feel like a rookie in front of
Speaker 1: a vet?
Speaker 3: Man? I was so nervous. I mean, like I'm about
Speaker 3: to work. I'm about to work.
Speaker 2: Like, first of all, I don't I don't even know
Speaker 2: how it got the role as a SUP as a
Speaker 2: serial killer, right, I'm like, man, how did I get
Speaker 2: this role as a serial killer?
Speaker 3: Serial killer?
Speaker 2: That's a tough job, man, because you have to to
Speaker 2: play a serial killer.
Speaker 3: Especially someone like that.
Speaker 2: I mean, this character from South Africa, he's hard body,
Speaker 2: body parts, you know, and he's selling it to.
Speaker 3: Corporate America.
Speaker 2: There's guys who want to want to feel like they
Speaker 2: want to be powerful, right, they go to this guy,
Speaker 2: this character named Randoku, so I'm like, man, how am
Speaker 2: I What am I going to do to separate myself
Speaker 2: and just you know, to show that I did the work.
Speaker 2: That's what they say, and I can do the work right.
Speaker 2: The work is what we just talked about being prepared.
Speaker 2: And there's a lot of different things that go into
Speaker 2: creating this character. I mean, you have the backstory, uh paraphrasing,
Speaker 2: emotional attachments that go to these lines, and every line
Speaker 2: is different. You know, you want to feel the emotion behind,
Speaker 2: put the motion behind those words. The words really mean
Speaker 2: nothing without the emotion. So I went I learned the
Speaker 2: actual language, you know, as players, that's what we do.
Speaker 3: Language Zulu I called. I got on Instagram.
Speaker 2: I found this girl who lived in South Africa and
Speaker 2: she taught me over what's up?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So Morgan didn't know I learned it because he
Speaker 2: didn't learn anything, but I learned. And the scene that
Speaker 2: we had do you have an accent? You had an
Speaker 2: accent and everything had an accent. I had learned the language.
Speaker 3: Everything you weren't work with an accent coach, yep, yep.
Speaker 3: I had a dialect coach.
Speaker 1: That's tight, that's putting in the work, work and.
Speaker 3: That's football players. That's what we do. We put in
Speaker 3: the work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I mean that's so I felt like, you know,
Speaker 2: I had one opportunity to show that I could do
Speaker 2: this and and that's what I did.
Speaker 3: You know, I put the work in.
Speaker 1: Man just did That's awesome.
Speaker 5: And how was Morgan Freeman just being in the same man,
Speaker 5: he was awesome.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: He I had a scene with him where I had
Speaker 2: to turn around and walk up to him and I
Speaker 2: just kind of dropped the knife like this.
Speaker 3: But he looked at me, he said, you know.
Speaker 2: What, everything so just he had tried this, look at
Speaker 2: the knife and then look at me.
Speaker 3: Then let it go. He said, try that. It was.
Speaker 3: It was a slight little change. I did it. It was.
Speaker 3: It was a great choice. Gee pro pro It was.
Speaker 2: A great choice. I mean, my, you know what, no
Speaker 2: choice is. Every choice you make is going to be good.
Speaker 2: But there's choices that you that you make and you
Speaker 2: be like wow. As a director, someone who's in the
Speaker 2: in the film industry, they can look at it and be like, wow,
Speaker 2: that was.
Speaker 3: That was a great choice. You know, the choices you
Speaker 3: get chance to make choices.
Speaker 1: And all those choices are determine one thing truths or
Speaker 1: lies exactly? Can you believe? Is this happening on? This
Speaker 1: is this is real? This is fucking real. Nah, I
Speaker 1: don't believe it. I not ain't it. Yeah, that's fucking awesome.
Speaker 1: I get I've done a little bit of acting here
Speaker 1: and there, and I work with the coach and it's
Speaker 1: a very it's a very very skillful technique, and it's
Speaker 1: very hard. You know, you got to be able to
Speaker 1: really open up and the lions. You gotta remember the
Speaker 1: fucking lines, Lions. You gotta you gotta get to a
Speaker 1: point where you know the Yeah, it's a lot. What's
Speaker 1: one of the what's one teammate of years that would
Speaker 1: be a You're like, yeah, he could act through the years.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to say, uh a j Francis. When
Speaker 2: I was at the Commanders, he's with uh he's doing
Speaker 2: wrestling now?
Speaker 3: Oh wow.
Speaker 2: He's always he had a big personality. I knew he
Speaker 2: could be an actor if he wanted to be. Yeah,
Speaker 2: who else? Maybe he's probably one guy that really stands
Speaker 2: out Joe Staley.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he could be an actor. Yeah, yeah, he
Speaker 3: could be an actor. He was he was always a
Speaker 3: dynamic behind the camera. Wow.
Speaker 1: Now let's go back into the sports world. Two thousand
Speaker 1: and eight, two thousand and nine Super Bowl champs, Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 1: Oh that that was a Santonio Holmes catch to tack. Oh,
Speaker 1: I remember that, James Harrison, we had he man run
Speaker 1: back and can't stay the lum shout out. NFL MVP
Speaker 1: was Peyton Manning? You played with Peyton?
Speaker 3: Yeah? How was that? You want a Super Bowl with them?
Speaker 3: Peyton was awesome?
Speaker 1: What was What was the biggest difference between Peyton and
Speaker 1: all the other quarterbacks you played with?
Speaker 2: The one thing that stood out with Peyton was that
Speaker 2: when I was sitting in that meeting for the first time,
Speaker 2: and I mean he just kind of just took over
Speaker 2: the took over the room. Normally you have the off
Speaker 2: you know, see off offensive coordinator, you know, installed the plays,
Speaker 2: go over everything. But Peyton was the one who stood
Speaker 2: up like a general. That was that was pretty phenomenal
Speaker 2: to me. I've never seen anything like it, and I
Speaker 2: played with some awesome quarterbacks, but he was just he
Speaker 2: was just different, man.
Speaker 3: He was he was just different.
Speaker 1: Was he going over like was he given coaching points
Speaker 1: to the line, Like, all right, guys on this okie front,
Speaker 1: We're gonna slide you guys this way. Hey, receivers, if
Speaker 1: these two.
Speaker 3: Guys come, you know, I need you to break a
Speaker 3: hot route. Is he breaking down play? He was? Probably?
Speaker 2: There was probably a correlation between him and hit him
Speaker 2: and Tom everything Tom did. You probably see the same
Speaker 2: thing in Peyton. If you look at their careers and
Speaker 2: who they how they their longevity, everything that they stood
Speaker 2: for and just their their records, everything that they did
Speaker 2: from all their accolades, everything, they are identical.
Speaker 1: They're just pro quarter they're pro quarterbacks.
Speaker 3: It's just different. It's different, man. Everybody's different. Man Like
Speaker 3: you will never see another Michael Jordan. It's gonna be
Speaker 3: years before we see that. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's gonna be years before we see Tom
Speaker 2: Brady and Peyton Manning.
Speaker 3: They're just they that's just who they are. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The prep and the mentality and yeah, the killer instinct,
Speaker 1: the people's skills of leadership. There's a lot that goes
Speaker 1: into it.
Speaker 3: That's a tough man. They're probably the people I think
Speaker 3: people might when they look at it, they look at
Speaker 3: the team and they look at the game, they might
Speaker 3: they might say, oh, okay, well I'm going to go
Speaker 3: to the defense.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe you know, Patrick Willis is the toughest guy
Speaker 2: in the field. Maybe it's Von Miller. They're going to
Speaker 2: pick those guys, but they don't know. They don't they're
Speaker 2: not out there, they don't see what's going on. But
Speaker 2: those quarterbacks, guys like Tom Brady and Peyton Manning, Yeah,
Speaker 2: those guys, you can talk to them if you want.
Speaker 2: They're tough. They're just as tough as the guy that
Speaker 2: guy on defense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, without a doubt.
Speaker 1: And it's not just the physical toughness, it's the mental
Speaker 1: tough mental.
Speaker 3: That inside of here. They know exactly what they're about
Speaker 3: to do before they even walk out in the field.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 2: It's a thing called visualization, and some of the greatest players,
Speaker 2: like yourself, we know exactly what that is. We see
Speaker 2: everything that we're doing before it even happens. We manifest
Speaker 2: that one hundred and fifty one hundred and seventy yard
Speaker 2: game that we're about to go have manifest You know.
Speaker 1: It's so repetitive and it goes into the prep process
Speaker 1: for the football player.
Speaker 3: At least for me.
Speaker 1: You do the drill that translates to the team, that
Speaker 1: team that translates to this, and you do it so
Speaker 1: many times and you study it on film, by the
Speaker 1: time you do in the game is deja vu exactly.
Speaker 3: That's the difference between great, being great and being good.
Speaker 3: The good players they don't know how to manifest, they
Speaker 3: don't know how to visualize. But the great players they know,
Speaker 3: they know the essence of visualization.
Speaker 2: That's what they know. They see it before. That's why
Speaker 2: the game is so slow. Man, you ever had a
Speaker 2: There's been games you can probably attest to this. We've
Speaker 2: all been the great players. I'm not calling I don't
Speaker 2: like to talk about myself, but the game is so slow.
Speaker 2: It feels like you can run around the whole field
Speaker 2: and everybody's still standing still.
Speaker 3: Everything, every catch, every play.
Speaker 2: I mean I would have games where I well, I
Speaker 2: go to the coach, I say, coach, do me the bolly?
Speaker 3: Can I stop me?
Speaker 2: And I really mean it from deep down inside, because
Speaker 2: the game is so slow. To me, it's like everybody's
Speaker 2: moving in slow motion. I'm moving so fast. I can catch,
Speaker 2: I can do the biggest games that I've had one
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty yards to you know, two touchdowns.
Speaker 3: You know, those games are the games that were really
Speaker 3: slow to me.
Speaker 1: The zone, the zone. I've felt that a few times.
Speaker 1: I felt periods of it throughout the game. There's only
Speaker 1: been maybe two games, and one was in the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl against the Rams or I was in the zone
Speaker 1: where everything you did worked.
Speaker 3: And you know that the biggest and every time that
Speaker 3: you didn't feel it, Yeah, you just didn't your mind
Speaker 3: in top to the space to let you know that's
Speaker 3: that's what was going on. It was there, it was there,
Speaker 3: but you just couldn't. It takes a certain moment or
Speaker 3: a certain time for you to really like, I don't
Speaker 3: know what it is, Like you said to me, I've
Speaker 3: only felt it three two to three times. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: my whole career. But you've been there for a whole game.
Speaker 3: You can't get there unless you're in that state. You
Speaker 3: can't have those type of performances unless you're in that state.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's something that's letting you know, it's opening
Speaker 2: it up your mind to say, this is what's happening
Speaker 2: right now, Yeah, this is what's happening.
Speaker 3: It's an amazing feeling. It is it is.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like that scene in Caddy Shack where
Speaker 1: it's raining the guys played his best game. But golf ever,
Speaker 1: he ain't letting that thing go. There's light and he's
Speaker 1: gonna get struck. It didn't matter. You're having the it's
Speaker 1: just going right. He's just going right.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: How about Tom Brady got his He got injured this
Speaker 1: season opener, that's when he tours. ACL got a rule
Speaker 1: in place for him. A lot of the quarterback injury
Speaker 1: or the quarterback rules rough in the passers. Probably because
Speaker 1: of that injury. D Mayo won Defense or Rookie of
Speaker 1: the Year. You watching football at all right now?
Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit. What do you think you hear?
Speaker 3: You hear what Mayo said? What did he say?
Speaker 1: He called the team soft?
Speaker 3: That's crazy, yeah, but it was.
Speaker 1: I think he was including himself when he said it,
Speaker 1: because in that building, they've been preaching for years. You
Speaker 1: gotta to be a tough team. You gotta run the ball,
Speaker 1: you gotta stop the rown, you gotta cover kicks. They
Speaker 1: gave up a boultlot of the yards and run game
Speaker 1: that game. They couldn't run the ball, and they gave
Speaker 1: up a punt return for a touchdown. So I think
Speaker 1: he was trying to put a spark on the team.
Speaker 2: Okay, you know, well, see that's one thing I had
Speaker 2: to say, say, I applod him for that, and then
Speaker 2: if he's putting himself in that category, it's always we
Speaker 2: as never you.
Speaker 3: Or them or you know, if it's us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the way you change your words is huge, man,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: It's not what you say, it's how you say it.
Speaker 2: So if he was, if it was, if his intentions
Speaker 2: were in that direction, then I would I was, I
Speaker 2: would have plod him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 3: I played with the music. Good dude.
Speaker 1: I think he's just you know, they've been preaching a
Speaker 1: lot of shit in there and things are going south
Speaker 1: south right now. They're banged up everywhere. It's tough to lose.
Speaker 1: How is it, like you've been on some of those
Speaker 1: teams early in your career with the Niners, how is
Speaker 1: how do you how do you as a player, if
Speaker 1: you're getting your ass bet every week? How do you
Speaker 1: keep your mindset? Like?
Speaker 3: How do you keep your sense sanity?
Speaker 2: I think it's extremely hard, especially when you're losing and
Speaker 2: you can go it can be three four years of
Speaker 2: just losing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, you just get tired. Of it. It's like
Speaker 3: you're tired of it.
Speaker 2: But that's when you have to understand that everyone feels
Speaker 2: that way. How can I be a leader and get
Speaker 2: my message across to these guys in the way that
Speaker 2: they can step their game up or just come together
Speaker 2: and just play as one, because that's when that's when
Speaker 2: things go south, when you're not playing as one.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people also like you got
Speaker 1: to focus on just improving. Like you're saying, whatever you
Speaker 1: did last game, say you did something five things five
Speaker 1: things wrong, let's try to get it to two things wrong, yeah,
Speaker 1: and then maybe get it to nothing wrong on an
Speaker 1: e and we all just kind of and then you
Speaker 1: start getting to get a win, a play, right. I
Speaker 1: think that's what it's the hardest thing to do ever,
Speaker 1: is when you're in a rut and you got to
Speaker 1: get out. But I just always remember, you know, Belichick saying, guys,
Speaker 1: we just after a big loss or you know, maybe
Speaker 1: a two game slide, which we had very few, but
Speaker 1: I remember we always say, we just got to stack
Speaker 1: today with tomorrow, yeah, and then tomorrow with the next day,
Speaker 1: you know, and then it'll compound.
Speaker 3: If you're improving now you're right.
Speaker 2: And that's how my coach came to me one damn practice.
Speaker 2: He said, you can't allow it. You're not allowed to
Speaker 2: have a bad practice. He said, you can You're not
Speaker 2: allowed to have a bad practice. I said, what, Coach,
Speaker 2: I just I mean, I dropped the ball. He's like, look,
Speaker 2: you said you're not allowed to have a bad practice.
Speaker 2: I set the bar high, and you, like you said,
Speaker 2: you gotta compound, you gotta build on it.
Speaker 3: You got to keep stacking.
Speaker 2: And the biggest, the greatest players, what they do is
Speaker 2: that they take those notes, they write down everything. They
Speaker 2: write them down, and they keep those notes and they
Speaker 2: make a list of everything they need to get better,
Speaker 2: and they focus on it.
Speaker 3: They meditate on those things. And that's what you have
Speaker 3: to do if you're gonna get better, and if you
Speaker 3: care anything you'll do you'll do that. You know what
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 2: You go to me, you remember going to the meetings,
Speaker 2: you done, had your notebook open. Then coach is going
Speaker 2: to good coaches, they they're gonna address that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, without a doubt. And I think I think a
Speaker 1: lot of guys don't know how to get better. They
Speaker 1: think that working hard is getting better. Yeah, it's working smart.
Speaker 1: It's finding a coach, Like, what was the coach that
Speaker 1: said that to you, Jim Hostler.
Speaker 3: Jim Hostler.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was offensive coordinated at the time of quarterbacks coach,
Speaker 2: offense coordinator.
Speaker 3: He's promoted.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So, like to improve, you need to find out
Speaker 1: what you need to improve on. Now, whether that's from
Speaker 1: a teammate, a mentor a coach. Find the things you
Speaker 1: work hard, need to work on, You work hard at that,
Speaker 1: and that's how you improve. It's not just some guys
Speaker 1: just don't know how to work hard because they think
Speaker 1: if you're gonna go go into the weight room and
Speaker 1: lift a bunch and wake up early to go run
Speaker 1: a little extra, maybe that's not what you're trying. That's
Speaker 1: not what you need to get better. Maybe you need
Speaker 1: to get in the film room and be able to
Speaker 1: decipher single high safety from two safeties, you know, and
Speaker 1: like they're you got to find out what you need
Speaker 1: to work on, work hard at that, and that's when
Speaker 1: improvement happens.
Speaker 3: And that's crazy. You know why why that's crazy?
Speaker 2: I say that we're talking about professional athletes, premiere the
Speaker 2: top high as you can go, and you don't know that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: a lot of guys don't see That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: That's why there's separation at that level. People think everybody
Speaker 2: is great. No, everybody's not great. You can separate yourself
Speaker 2: and that's and the guys who know the difference between
Speaker 2: getting better and not and not knowing how to be better,
Speaker 2: those are the ones who have the longevity and make
Speaker 2: it to the Hall of Fame and receive those accolades.
Speaker 1: Now you go from there was talks that USC could
Speaker 1: beat some of those Niners teams back in those days,
Speaker 1: to going to a Super Bowl with San Francisco losing
Speaker 1: so building that organization to then finally going to Denver
Speaker 1: and winning a Super Bowl. You felt the transition of everything.
Speaker 1: What's that feeling like to go from someone that literally
Speaker 1: praying to God week nine, guys, you're setting up golf trips.
Speaker 1: You know you guys, it's it's over to playing in
Speaker 1: the last goddamn game the year.
Speaker 3: Well, it was it was similar. There was some similar Uh.
Speaker 2: That team was very similar to the team that we
Speaker 2: had when we played in Super Bowl forty seven. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was a lot of similarities and the same energy
Speaker 2: was there. So I already seen it. I knew what
Speaker 2: it looked like, and I knew what it was because
Speaker 2: I played on that kind of team before. It was
Speaker 2: just awesome to be able to be trade bittersweet, but
Speaker 2: to get traded to that to a team and walk
Speaker 2: into a team and then come back to that same
Speaker 2: stadium where I just left and won a super Bowl
Speaker 2: was unbelievable.
Speaker 3: It was surreal to me, but.
Speaker 2: It was I saw it and I felt it was
Speaker 2: the same energy and that that was the kind of
Speaker 2: attitude the guys walking. They walk into that facility every
Speaker 2: single day with the winning attitude. And how you know
Speaker 2: it's a winning attitude because everybody to win that chip
Speaker 2: day about to hit everybody from the markets where to
Speaker 2: Manuel Sanders, we about to win that hip today. Already,
Speaker 2: guys were excited to go to practice. That's how you
Speaker 2: know you're on a championship team. When guy's excited to
Speaker 2: go to practice.
Speaker 1: Man, that's championship talking about practice.
Speaker 2: That sounded like Ivan Iverson. Now, Allen Iverson, I sounded
Speaker 2: like AI. We're talking about practice.
Speaker 3: Guys were excited to go to practice.
Speaker 2: But I've been on teams with guys coming in the morning,
Speaker 2: shoulders hunched over, looking like they were about to have
Speaker 2: the worst day of their life, like they're not excited
Speaker 2: to be there, be there. And I took that energy
Speaker 2: with me to that when I went, when I left
Speaker 2: forty nine ers and I left the Denver Denver Broncos,
Speaker 2: I took that energy everybody, everybody that saw me. I
Speaker 2: always had a smile on my face, and I was
Speaker 2: seemed as if I was ready to go.
Speaker 3: And I was.
Speaker 2: Every day I went to practice, I was ready. I
Speaker 2: was excited to go to practice. I was excited. Man,
Speaker 2: it felt so good to just be in practice. I
Speaker 2: never set out of a training camp fourteen years, never
Speaker 2: been set out of training camp.
Speaker 3: I never missed a practice.
Speaker 2: Whenever I went, like, I made sure that I was
Speaker 2: getting those reps because it felt good to run.
Speaker 3: Let's get out there and just run.
Speaker 1: You got y'all cooped up in the building all day
Speaker 1: with all these damn installs. Walk through this that you're
Speaker 1: only outside on the field for three hours day exactly.
Speaker 3: We're still a little kids at heart. Man, Run that's right,
Speaker 3: get on the field. Run that's right.
Speaker 7: I'd love to hear. I know that Super Bowl fifty
Speaker 7: is paint mantings. Last game you're in the locker room
Speaker 7: you won. Is there anything can you talk about us?
Speaker 7: About the locker room after the Super Bowl win?
Speaker 2: After the Super Bowl win, it just went over my head.
Speaker 2: It was just so much excitement and you know this,
Speaker 2: that's just man. It's like we worked so hard. This
Speaker 2: is that moment is what we play for. And to
Speaker 2: go through so many ups and downs, the ebb and
Speaker 2: flows of those games. I mean, there's there's games that
Speaker 2: you expected to win that maybe you didn't win, or
Speaker 2: you just standing there on the sideline holding your brother's
Speaker 2: hand and crossing your fingers because you know how important
Speaker 2: that game is and you have to win it if
Speaker 2: you're gonna make it to the championship. And just thinking
Speaker 2: about all that, all the sweat you put into it,
Speaker 2: and you start to think about when you were in
Speaker 2: high school in college and I get a chance to
Speaker 2: play in the biggest game there is and do it
Speaker 2: over and over and over like you had a chance
Speaker 2: to do.
Speaker 3: Man, there's no better feeling than that.
Speaker 2: Everything that you get, all the accolades and the opportunities
Speaker 2: you get after football, you deserve.
Speaker 3: It because you work so hard. Man, You work so
Speaker 3: hard to be where you are.
Speaker 2: You deserve everything because it's it's you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: it's guys like to kill spikes, to play for years
Speaker 2: and never get a chance to win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I result was after the game. I was exhausted. It's
Speaker 1: like it's the first time you can relax in a
Speaker 1: long time. Like as soon as you sit at your locker,
Speaker 1: there's no thinking about next week, how your body is feeling,
Speaker 1: there's no more practice for a while. You sit and
Speaker 1: you look at all the staff you go give all
Speaker 1: they're all excited, like all the people that help you
Speaker 1: get to where you're at, the training staff, the equipment staff,
Speaker 1: you know, the guys that are doing your freaking laundry,
Speaker 1: Like everyone's in there and just everyone's just like, we
Speaker 1: can we can we can relax.
Speaker 3: We can relax. We could take off for a month
Speaker 3: and not do anything. Yeah. No, but it's like no
Speaker 3: day is pepperoni on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was like the ultimate, like oh it
Speaker 1: was just then there's like but that's like almost the
Speaker 1: best thing in the feeling in the world because when
Speaker 1: you don't have to think about anything and you can
Speaker 1: just sit down and just say the job is.
Speaker 3: Done, the job is finished.
Speaker 1: Job, and you could just sit back and you know,
Speaker 1: you can have a drink tonight because you ain't playing
Speaker 1: next week.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: In that parade, you.
Speaker 3: Know the snowboard, you can do something. Yeah, yeah, that's
Speaker 3: that's that's yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, Jackie set the stage for the Seattle
Speaker 1: I was talking about these eight Seahawks, a bit of
Speaker 1: a regression year for a team that had won the
Speaker 1: division four straight years, only a couple of years coming
Speaker 1: off of Super Bowl that when they lost to Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4: Shawn Alexander released before the season. Team went four and twelve.
Speaker 4: This was the last season of the Mike Holmegren era.
Speaker 1: They're probably they're eating that cap for Shawn Alexander. I
Speaker 1: bet they probably didn't have any money because he got
Speaker 1: a big contract.
Speaker 3: Like remember he was on the mad cover. That was man.
Speaker 4: He was him, He was a god man. He big fast,
Speaker 4: went to the went to Washington, and uh just played
Speaker 4: one more year.
Speaker 3: This this was his last year in the NFL too.
Speaker 4: An injury plagued season. Hasselbeck heard a tweaked the disc
Speaker 4: in his back. Then his knee then had a helmet
Speaker 4: to helmet hit. So he was dealing with with all
Speaker 4: sorts of things. He was out most of the season.
Speaker 4: Charlie fry boy, room your boy, baby, Charlie fry Frye,
Speaker 4: what's up?
Speaker 1: Hass did Charlie Frye went to Acro and he went
Speaker 1: to my rival and he was, like I was. I
Speaker 1: played quarterback in college and when I changed positions, Charlie
Speaker 1: fry took me under his wing and like would throw
Speaker 1: to me. He was and he was playing for fucking
Speaker 1: the Seahawks this year.
Speaker 3: Crazy, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: He would throw to me at Arrivals school, you know,
Speaker 1: and he was fucking.
Speaker 3: He was awesome. Florida.
Speaker 4: He's at Florida Atlantic Atlantic, the o C and quarterbacks
Speaker 4: go f a baby, let's go bringing the boom down there.
Speaker 3: I love it. Uh.
Speaker 4: This was a team that also had the likes of
Speaker 4: Seneca Wallace. What a cool dude.
Speaker 3: He was the same agent.
Speaker 1: Dion, Baby, you know what's up?
Speaker 3: Dirty? It's all you say, what's up dirty?
Speaker 1: You got Josh criz To saying young and Deon Branch
Speaker 1: we say, what was that was that?
Speaker 3: Dirty? I like mixing it up.
Speaker 4: Maybe this isn't bud, this isn't cheats.
Speaker 3: It's hilarious, man, oh goodness.
Speaker 4: Oh man, Uh but yeah this uh snap that that
Speaker 4: division win streaking miss the playoffs this year. Then let's
Speaker 4: talk about these eight nine ers. Let's go seven and nine.
Speaker 4: This was Mike Nolan singletary leading them. Nolan was fired
Speaker 4: after week seven. Unfortunately, Mike Martz was was leading that
Speaker 4: offense as the OC.
Speaker 7: Let me cut you off real quick, because we were
Speaker 7: talking about this a lot. Mike Nolan wore the suit
Speaker 7: on the sideline this year. What's your take on the
Speaker 7: head coach wearing a suit?
Speaker 3: But what are the guys saying in the locker room.
Speaker 2: I don't Yeah, I know that I wouldn't necessarily think
Speaker 2: that a head coach would have to wear a suit
Speaker 2: on the sideline. I just don't think it's it's needed
Speaker 2: because you want to be comfortable out there.
Speaker 3: Calling plays, you're moving around. It's just that it's unnecessary.
Speaker 3: I'm with you. I like it. I like it.
Speaker 5: I like the shirt and tie under sweater. Mike Dicker,
Speaker 5: Jim Tressel.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was fucking sorry.
Speaker 5: We're just talking about all week prepping for this.
Speaker 3: Over here.
Speaker 4: Give me some monarchs and a baggy polo, baby, that's
Speaker 4: all a coach needs.
Speaker 3: Baby.
Speaker 4: Uh, this was still the stick man playing a candlestick.
Speaker 1: Like I never got to play there, and I wanted to.
Speaker 1: I grew up going to that stick And.
Speaker 3: Was it like playing? It was a shithold. I love.
Speaker 3: It was like the grass.
Speaker 1: The grass wasn't great. I heard it was. Danny Amondola
Speaker 1: always said the grass was great. No, I thought the
Speaker 1: grass was awful.
Speaker 3: Was it? Yeah, the grass was awful.
Speaker 7: Danny is light on his feet. You can see on
Speaker 7: dancing stirs every Wednesday.
Speaker 1: I know Danny is dancing light on his feet in
Speaker 1: that Uh that there's But it's nothing like driving into candlestick.
Speaker 1: That's the one thing. I grew up a Niners fan
Speaker 1: when they went to Santa Clara. You're not in the city,
Speaker 1: like when you're going up in the candlestick. The FOG's
Speaker 1: right there, you're right on the water. You got Hunter's
Speaker 1: Point right there. I mean, it's just like you're coming
Speaker 1: into our house. Like I feel like you lost that
Speaker 1: when you're driving into the freaking the driving lot of
Speaker 1: Great America Park.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not the same. It's not the same. It's
Speaker 3: not the same.
Speaker 1: And the weather was always kind of a thing.
Speaker 3: It's totally different.
Speaker 1: It's like hot, yeah, hot in Santa Clara.
Speaker 3: I'm'll tell you the truth. I'd rather stay in Candlestick.
Speaker 3: The truth. Just the tradition, man, you take away the
Speaker 3: tradition with Jerry Rice, Joe, Montana and all those guys,
Speaker 3: just the history, those Super Bowl wins that they stacked up.
Speaker 2: It all happened from there. That was the foundation, that
Speaker 2: was their home. So it was as I'm coming in,
Speaker 2: I'm getting drafted, I'm like, I'm looking around.
Speaker 3: Like, Wow, this is crazy, this is weird. It all happened. Wow,
Speaker 3: it's amazing. But now I can't do the same. I
Speaker 3: can't really.
Speaker 2: I don't really have that feeling when I go into
Speaker 2: when I walk into leave stadium.
Speaker 3: Damn.
Speaker 7: How much were the Forignite, the vets, like Montana, Steve
Speaker 7: Young around the organization when you were there.
Speaker 2: They didn't come around much. I didn't see him much. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I didn't see him much. I think a lot of
Speaker 2: times with these organizations, with the older guys, I think
Speaker 2: sometimes they can feel underappreciated because they're not getting paid.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Most of the time these organizations, they want to give
Speaker 2: you three to five thousand dollars to come show up
Speaker 2: and a lot of guys they have a lot of
Speaker 2: stuff going on, so they rather allocate their time to
Speaker 2: the kids and their.
Speaker 3: Business, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So it has to make sense, y'a setting on meetings,
Speaker 2: know whether it's with the commanders or forty nine ers,
Speaker 2: and you know, they bring in the alumnis and.
Speaker 3: They ask them, they say, hey, guys, what do we
Speaker 3: need to do differently?
Speaker 2: And the legends they get a chance to it's what
Speaker 2: they call them down legends. They get a chance to
Speaker 2: force their opinion. And that's what that's usually the case.
Speaker 2: If you don't see guys. Now now that I know that,
Speaker 2: I can look back and I'll be like, Okay, I
Speaker 2: see why Joe and Jerry wasn't there.
Speaker 3: It didn't makes sense. It didn't make sense for them.
Speaker 5: Probably, Yeah, I get that.
Speaker 1: What were the what was this early stage year career
Speaker 1: niners teams like.
Speaker 3: Stressful? A lot of frustration.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like we talked about when you're not winning and
Speaker 2: you know, being a young guy, you have to learn
Speaker 2: how to be a leader and and uh but it
Speaker 2: was you know, you find some you just you just
Speaker 2: it's a learning curve for sure. Definitely, definitely a lot
Speaker 2: of learning. Yeah, but when you but it's good that
Speaker 2: you go through this when you when you lose, you
Speaker 2: know how grad it feels when you win. Yeah, And
Speaker 2: that can be in college or high school whatever. I mean,
Speaker 2: you don't have to. I mean, you guys had You've
Speaker 2: had moments. Even though you guys want a lot, you
Speaker 2: still have moments where you where it didn't work out
Speaker 2: for you, a lot of them. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you appreciate that it only worked out three times? Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: So you appreciate that, yeah, without a doubt. And that's
Speaker 1: I would say that Detroit Lions are in an example
Speaker 1: of that right now with they appreciate their winning because
Speaker 1: they still remember their losing. You know, they're a tough
Speaker 1: football team that don't give up. You know. It's just
Speaker 1: it's it kind of reminds me of that. How is
Speaker 1: Alex Smith? Tell you something that no one knows about
Speaker 1: Alex Smith.
Speaker 3: Alex Smith was man. He was just such.
Speaker 2: An amazing human being, very just loving, great teammate, beautiful family,
Speaker 2: comes from a great family. I think they're from San Diego,
Speaker 2: I believe. But he knew everything. He knew everything everyone
Speaker 2: had like it was when I first came in into
Speaker 2: the league. I didn't know what I had on my brouse.
Speaker 2: I would just look up. He just telled me right
Speaker 2: there to tell me. Yeah, it's just yeah, it was
Speaker 2: you know, it's tough. I mean, you go from college
Speaker 2: and coming in learning an offense like north Turner's playbook
Speaker 2: had he had an interesting playbook, man, but the way
Speaker 2: he called plays, uh, it's just yeah.
Speaker 3: But Alex was great. He was always there for me.
Speaker 3: He was always there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He seems like he'd be a really good teammate, great teammate,
Speaker 1: great leader, great teammate.
Speaker 3: And he was tough man. Yeah, he was. Can you
Speaker 3: imagine going through what he went through.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he got baptized in that league for a long time.
Speaker 2: Yes, even even when he got it when he was
Speaker 2: he suffered from a concussion.
Speaker 3: Collins Kapernick steps in.
Speaker 2: Alex has to stand there and watch what he started right,
Speaker 2: even on the on the sidelines of the Super Bowl,
Speaker 2: That's that's tough man.
Speaker 3: Handled it right, though, handle he handled like a pro.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. He's from the outside end.
Speaker 1: Looking from the outside, he looked like he handled it
Speaker 1: like a pro.
Speaker 3: And look what he did when he left us and
Speaker 3: went to Kansas City.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he had a really good, really good career. He's
Speaker 1: the nice guy. Who are the team assholes? Like from
Speaker 1: this team, like who was the ass like the necessity
Speaker 1: asss kind of in the asshole that kind of keeps
Speaker 1: everyone accountable, that works really hard, the richie incognito kind of.
Speaker 3: A typeole everybody kept everybody in lying. Brian Johnson, Uh no,
Speaker 3: I'm about to say. Sean Hill was one of those guys.
Speaker 3: Sean Hill he would always you know, he would always
Speaker 3: get on.
Speaker 2: Guys if he needs to. He's an Maryland guy too,
Speaker 2: Maryland got Yeah, he was. He was awesome. Isaac Bruce
Speaker 2: was really quiet. He didn't say much.
Speaker 3: He's probably the old Vet. Then the old Vet.
Speaker 2: He was old Vet to kill spikes with voices, opinions everything.
Speaker 3: Jeff Aubrey coach now Coachet.
Speaker 2: He was one of those guys who would always voice
Speaker 2: his opinion. I was Obrick Albrick was cool man. I
Speaker 2: had a great relationship with Albrick. He was he was,
Speaker 2: he was cool. He was really he was a great
Speaker 2: like you know, a young guy coming in. He he
Speaker 2: takes you under his wing and kind I talked to you,
Speaker 2: we have we have great conversations.
Speaker 3: But he was He's one of the nicest guys on
Speaker 3: the team.
Speaker 1: Now, could you see that he he had head coaching
Speaker 1: material in him.
Speaker 2: Never never Why, I don't know, I just didn't. I
Speaker 2: could never see him as a head coach. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean he looked pretty old when I came in. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the Mohawk back then, it looked like he was in
Speaker 2: year twenty five.
Speaker 3: Man, but he's really only thirty six, right, thirty five
Speaker 3: thirty six. But uh, but I never saw him being
Speaker 3: a head coach. No, yeah, that's crazy. Now.
Speaker 1: One of my favorite football players. I loved Frank Orr.
Speaker 1: He was probably just an ultimate professional, wasn't he.
Speaker 3: Come on that long? Oh, come on, don't come on.
Speaker 3: Frank was great, man. He's to get on me all
Speaker 3: the time. He's he didn't get it.
Speaker 2: He wouldn't say much to the team only if he
Speaker 2: had to, but he would get on me all the time.
Speaker 3: Shout.
Speaker 10: Oh, yeah, he was.
Speaker 3: That's my brother, man.
Speaker 2: He's he's like one of the best human beings you
Speaker 2: could ever would ever meet. Man like he was just
Speaker 2: he was phenomenal. Frank, Yeah, ultimate teammate.
Speaker 3: I loved.
Speaker 1: I've met him a few times. I asked him to
Speaker 1: sign a jersey for me once. He's said, he's a
Speaker 1: fucking he's a bullying ball and he did it for
Speaker 1: like eighteen years.
Speaker 4: What do you have a sixteen seventeen year career San Francisco, Indie, Miami, Buffalo,
Speaker 4: New York. I mean he was like thirty five and
Speaker 4: getting like a thousand yards incredible. Yeah, his sons, sons,
Speaker 4: I know his son's others right now.
Speaker 2: He could have been Lebron one of the best running
Speaker 2: backs of all time, legend bro without a doubt.
Speaker 1: We got to talk about the catch three. What's that
Speaker 1: was like an unbelievable drive. He had like three huge
Speaker 1: catches on that drive that was eleven.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was That was a game to remember. That
Speaker 3: was a tough game, man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jimmy Graham scoring and us coming back having to
Speaker 2: put up some points and that drive we had it
Speaker 2: was it was It was awesome.
Speaker 3: I remember, I remember everybody played that game. They brought it.
Speaker 2: I mean, you're talking about a team that believed. That
Speaker 2: team believed, man, because I look back now and just
Speaker 2: I just can't believe we pulled that game off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're talking about the twenty eleven Saints game, Divisional.
Speaker 4: Round twenty eleven division run NFC.
Speaker 1: Yeah that Vernon had a middle reed split, the safety
Speaker 1: score a touchdown with time running out nine seconds left,
Speaker 1: nine seconds left.
Speaker 3: Very similar.
Speaker 1: They called the catch threes is the catch to the
Speaker 1: t O CATCHO, and the catch one is Dwight Clark
Speaker 1: right man, San Francisco legend. That's got to be sick
Speaker 1: to have a catch.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's cool. You have a catch. We gotta catch,
Speaker 3: we gotta catch.
Speaker 5: I catch on this team too?
Speaker 3: How was Isaac very quiet? Quiet? Came to work?
Speaker 1: Man, he was very was that because he was in
Speaker 1: a division rival?
Speaker 3: I don't know. He was just he didn't say much.
Speaker 3: I never heard him say anything. Yeah, he never even
Speaker 3: I never heard him say hi, you say so? That's
Speaker 3: just I love that. Yeah, he did, didn't say much.
Speaker 3: He just came to work.
Speaker 1: Who is the who is the character on this team?
Speaker 3: Character? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Who's the funny guy that was making him scene?
Speaker 3: Right here? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Man, I'm gonna have to go with the guy Thomas
Speaker 2: Clayton right there?
Speaker 3: Man running back? Why what would he do? That was funny?
Speaker 2: This dude was unbelievable man with the funniest thing he did.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you really want to know?
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, this dude goes to the head coach's
Speaker 2: house and picks up his daughter.
Speaker 3: Oh, for a date? I said, did you go in so?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yes, I said, Hey coach. He looked at me, say
Speaker 3: I said what I said, dude, You mean to tell
Speaker 3: me you want to take his dog on a date?
Speaker 3: If you went to the house to pick her up?
Speaker 3: You know what you just did.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, yeah, if he did it right, he
Speaker 1: set himself up for a little insurance, he cut.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, what are we doing? Bro? Bro? What
Speaker 3: are you doing? Bro?
Speaker 2: This is the craziest, funniest guy I ever met in
Speaker 2: my life.
Speaker 3: Oh, I love that move, bro. He wore the same
Speaker 3: outfit every time.
Speaker 4: Full cartoon character Mude Full cartoon.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 2: Cowboy boots jeans with a chain aroun on the side
Speaker 2: of his pocket.
Speaker 3: Wo, that's a lot to cut off. Button up. The
Speaker 3: show is on. Can you imagine this guy? This character
Speaker 3: in the movie kind of car like a truck.
Speaker 2: Oh, I think he had like a dosh charger hearer
Speaker 2: something red with a drop top.
Speaker 3: I can't remember, bro.
Speaker 4: I get wait while we're on the where we're talking
Speaker 4: to these guys. Vernon did uh I was looking at
Speaker 4: Takeo Spikes. Takio spikes. His neck has its own category
Speaker 4: in Wikipedia. His neck, his neck, my hamstring. It says
Speaker 4: it measures twenty one inches around. It's insane.
Speaker 3: Twenty one inch neck, twenty one What a beast? Remember
Speaker 3: that guy looks like a football player. That guy, he
Speaker 3: looks like a football player. It looks like a football player.
Speaker 3: Neck talk.
Speaker 2: If you want to pick somebody out of the crowd,
Speaker 2: it looks like a football player.
Speaker 3: Come on up here, Takio Spikes. You fit the description.
Speaker 4: What a beast, ma'am? Oh my gosh, all right, it's
Speaker 4: the game lead up. This was This was Mike Singletary's
Speaker 4: first game as a head coach. Mike Nolan had just
Speaker 4: gotten fired after the Giants lost the week before, and
Speaker 4: this was a backup quarterback showdown JT. O. Sullivan for
Speaker 4: Seneca Wallace and a rematch of the week two game
Speaker 4: where the forty nine ers won thirty three thirty and
Speaker 4: ot uh.
Speaker 3: Seattle had an early bye week this year.
Speaker 4: Week four, the Niners were getting ready to go on
Speaker 4: There's so this was one in five Seattle first two
Speaker 4: and five San Francisco two teams need to win.
Speaker 1: Baby, what's the mindset going into the game with a
Speaker 1: new coaching style? Like, what change? I've never been involved
Speaker 1: in that. What changes? Is there anything that damn changes?
Speaker 1: Because you guys have the same plays, probably the same coaching.
Speaker 1: What goes into a coaching change? How are the players
Speaker 1: during this thing?
Speaker 3: Well, depends on who the coach is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you either pick your head up or put your
Speaker 2: head down, depends on who it is. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: it's it's a coaching changes. Like you feel you can
Speaker 2: feel the energy. It's like it's almost if it's it's
Speaker 2: like there's a there's a there's a love and respect
Speaker 2: that you have for the coaches leaving you kind of
Speaker 2: feel bad on Yeah, it's like, man, you created, you
Speaker 2: cultivate a relationship with the coach, and now that another
Speaker 2: coach has to come in, it's like, we don't know
Speaker 2: what's gonna happen with this coach just stepping in, because
Speaker 2: if he wasn't.
Speaker 3: A head coach, how can it be a head coach? Now?
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: We don't know what to expect that, we don't know
Speaker 2: what we're gonna get But we do know that if
Speaker 2: you're a football player and you someone who believes in
Speaker 2: this team and believes that we can win, you're going
Speaker 2: to rally behind this coach and you're gonna say, Okay,
Speaker 2: let's let's let's let's do this.
Speaker 3: Let's do it for this coach. We're gonna we're gonna
Speaker 3: get him, get him going. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Now, Singletary, first team meeting.
Speaker 3: What's that like? Is he just fucking it? I could?
Speaker 1: I can only imagine his tense. His eyeballs are fucking
Speaker 1: coming out of his eyes.
Speaker 3: No, he had everyone with respected coach Singletary. He had
Speaker 3: a lot. It was a lot of respect throughout that
Speaker 3: locker room for coach. But he's an intense guy.
Speaker 2: He's an intense guy. We we knew. We didn't know
Speaker 2: exactly what we're going to get out of him, but
Speaker 2: we knew he was. He was no nonsense. You had
Speaker 2: the every time you touch the field, you better be jogging,
Speaker 2: no walking. I mean, love it, love your teammates, selfless, everything,
Speaker 2: everything that you had to that he wanted out of.
Speaker 3: You had to be that on this team if you
Speaker 3: were going to.
Speaker 1: Stay now what's your mindset going into this this week
Speaker 1: of Seattle. Do you remember anything specific? I mean, coach
Speaker 1: just gets fired. Yeah, as one in five, first game
Speaker 1: with coach single Terry playing division rival. Also dogsho right now,
Speaker 1: Like what's going in to get you hyped up? Or like,
Speaker 1: do you know it's already going to be a bad
Speaker 1: Sunday going into this game.
Speaker 3: No, I was thinking it was going to be a
Speaker 3: great Sunday.
Speaker 2: I'm about to play with Sean Hill Maryland, my Maryland guy,
Speaker 2: and I felt like, you know, especially Seann and I
Speaker 2: we had a connection because we played on the same
Speaker 2: we're from the same school, and I know about him.
Speaker 2: I knew, I knew, I knew who he was. You know,
Speaker 2: he was a legend at Maryland. But but going into
Speaker 2: the game, I'm thinking we're going to win the game. Yeah,
Speaker 2: of course, I didn't think it wasna go to way
Speaker 2: it did. But took a hold three sixty on me. Yeah,
Speaker 2: to go three sixty, And a lot of it came
Speaker 2: from it. It was just frustration with me and not winning,
Speaker 2: losing the coach. I'm like, man, this this team, this
Speaker 2: season is it's not going the way we expected to go.
Speaker 2: We're still losing. I mean, we had to lose the
Speaker 2: season first year, second year.
Speaker 3: It's tough.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jack, Yeah, Just to just highlight this game, a
Speaker 4: little bit bit of a slow start. Seattle gets up
Speaker 4: six nothing with two field goals. Then Seneca Wallace leads
Speaker 4: a long touchdown drive to get them up thirteen to nothing.
Speaker 4: Uh san Fran attacks on a field goal thirteen to three,
Speaker 4: which takes us to one of the the ten poll
Speaker 4: moments of this game, if you will. Forty four seconds
Speaker 4: left in the half, the Niners are driving to cut
Speaker 4: it to thirteen to ten. Sullivan throws a pick six,
Speaker 4: Josh Wilson returns at seventy five yards for a tuddy
Speaker 4: Vernon chases him down the length of the field, almost
Speaker 4: makes the tackle he gets.
Speaker 3: In the end.
Speaker 4: So they go up twenty to three at the half.
Speaker 4: And that was kind of the straw that broke the
Speaker 4: camel's back, if you will, for Mike Singletary talking to
Speaker 4: Mike Martz on the sideline and they pull him and
Speaker 4: go with Sean Hill in the second half.
Speaker 3: So halftime, what's the halftime like? Do you remember that?
Speaker 3: Do you remember this? Like that halftime? Yeah? Yeah, I
Speaker 3: remember pieces of it.
Speaker 2: Halftime was coach was just he was just looking at
Speaker 2: us with his eyes like you said, big eyes wide open,
Speaker 2: just like gosh, we gotta you know, He's like, we gotta.
Speaker 8: Stay in this thing. If we're going to win this,
Speaker 8: we need to play. We need to play harder. You
Speaker 8: we gotta do this.
Speaker 3: You know. He's just like, you know, just taking charge.
Speaker 3: It was good.
Speaker 4: That is a really good singletary.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was just trying to win.
Speaker 2: I wanted to step in this thing and improve something
Speaker 2: to the organization.
Speaker 3: You guys, come.
Speaker 4: Out of halftime, yep, that's Sean Hill in there. Now,
Speaker 4: Sean Hill's in.
Speaker 1: And take us through the unsportsmanlike conduct penalty, because like,
Speaker 1: this whole thing kind of baffles me, because if you
Speaker 1: can get on your star for not putting the team first,
Speaker 1: for the you know, the whole uh penalty, he has
Speaker 1: to be doing a lot more than that for you
Speaker 1: to get on him like that. Like, because he just
Speaker 1: ran ninety six yards and almost chased the guy down,
Speaker 1: so he's showing you he's not quitting. So take us
Speaker 1: through this this unsportsman like conduct penalty and this whole thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: It was it wasn't. I feel like at the moment,
Speaker 2: just I'd say I was selfish and that selfless because
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 3: I was young.
Speaker 2: In my young mind, I'm thinking like, what is this guy?
Speaker 2: What's this guy doing?
Speaker 3: Who?
Speaker 2: If I'm talking to myself, who's this guy think he is?
Speaker 2: They brought me here to make plays and help this
Speaker 2: team win. I'm Vernon Davis. Why are you sending me
Speaker 2: to the locker room. I can help this team win.
Speaker 2: I don't need to go to the locker room. Who
Speaker 2: do you think you are? That's what I'm saying in
Speaker 2: my mind as a young young guy coming into the league.
Speaker 2: But now as I look back, that's the situation. Coach
Speaker 2: did me as solid. He did me a favor. Him
Speaker 2: being there was a blessing in disguise because I needed that.
Speaker 2: I needed to have that moment of being benched and
Speaker 2: going to the locker room.
Speaker 3: I made a bone here, mistake. I got a penalty.
Speaker 3: I hit a guy. I believe I hit the hit.
Speaker 2: I forgot forget who it was, but I hit him
Speaker 2: under on his chin strop and Coach benched me. That
Speaker 2: was just I think Coach knew me. He was He's been,
Speaker 2: he was there since I got drafted, so he knew
Speaker 2: how I was. He watched me. He was just tired
Speaker 2: of my foolishness, you know what I mean, wasting time
Speaker 2: getting penalized.
Speaker 3: You're young, You're still young in the head. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I go to the locker room. I do exactly
Speaker 2: what he tell me to do. I go to the
Speaker 2: locker room, didn't say anything. He come to me, He said,
Speaker 2: come see me tomorrow, and I go see him after
Speaker 2: the game. I mean, I didn't I didn't know he
Speaker 2: was gonna do what he did on on television.
Speaker 3: I was at home laying in the bed with my
Speaker 3: kids mom watching TV. This pops up and I'm like, wow, Wow,
Speaker 3: what do you feel that time?
Speaker 2: I feel like I feel like he threw me under
Speaker 2: the bus. At the moment, I'm like, wow, why would
Speaker 2: he do this? Why would he do that? I was like,
Speaker 2: this guy is crazy. So I knew right away I
Speaker 2: was gonna walk into that facility tomorrow and it was
Speaker 2: gonna be I didn't know what was going to happen.
Speaker 3: Like you didn't know what happened.
Speaker 2: I was furious, but I was also I was furious,
Speaker 2: but I was also I was definitely afraid of coach
Speaker 2: Mike Singatary, because I knew he wasn't no pushover.
Speaker 1: Oh so you think when Singaretary, if you got rough
Speaker 1: with them, you think you were trying to take me.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah he was, Oh absolutely, you know.
Speaker 2: Oh man, he stood up in practice one day he said,
Speaker 2: I'll fight all of y'all until I went you might
Speaker 2: beat me, but I'm gonna get back up until I I'm.
Speaker 3: Keep on fighting. Such an old school guy, I can
Speaker 3: get me. But I love that dude. I love that dude,
Speaker 3: man beast. But we had a heart to heart man
Speaker 3: and I.
Speaker 2: From that day, from that moment I got it, I
Speaker 2: knew exactly what he wanted me to do, and I
Speaker 2: knew what I needed to do for myself. If I
Speaker 2: wanted to stay on this team and if I wanted
Speaker 2: to be a leader for my teammates, I had to
Speaker 2: change my ways.
Speaker 3: I had to change my attitude.
Speaker 2: And thankfully that I had him, I was able to
Speaker 2: be the player that we saw for fourteen well for
Speaker 2: the next eleven or twelve eleven to twelve years because
Speaker 2: of him.
Speaker 3: He did for me. Tough love, tough love, tough love.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, sometimes they don't need to be put
Speaker 1: in our place in some form or fashion. Absolutely, you
Speaker 1: know everyone's got that story. And you know, Coach Single,
Speaker 1: you could tell he was doing that of love when
Speaker 1: he did it. You know, you you're a young guy,
Speaker 1: a lot of money. You've been the man forever. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's gotta be so hard for you, that's all you know,
Speaker 1: you know, So that's probably that's one of that. That's
Speaker 1: probably the turning point of your career right there. That
Speaker 1: turned you and made you think about that. And because
Speaker 1: it sounds like your energy changed from the type of
Speaker 1: teammate you were in everything by the time you got
Speaker 1: to Washington, where you enjoyed it, I can only imagine
Speaker 1: this day and age two.
Speaker 3: Thousand and eight.
Speaker 1: It wasn't enjoyable at the time when you have a
Speaker 1: lot of firing is going on, this going on.
Speaker 3: So man, that's that's awesome.
Speaker 1: It's awesome that you get real growth out of mistakes
Speaker 1: if you learn from them, right, if you learn from them,
Speaker 1: if you learn from this correct Yeah, you're right, amen.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you don't have to answer this, but I'll be
Speaker 7: a bad person and ask, but what did Coach Singletary
Speaker 7: say to you in that conversation Monday?
Speaker 3: Morning. Well.
Speaker 2: I don't know if verbadim like exactly what he said,
Speaker 2: but it was somewhere in the lines like.
Speaker 3: Son, you have to change. You could do better what
Speaker 3: you did out there. We can't have that on his teams. Huh.
Speaker 8: I know what you can be. You can be great,
Speaker 8: you could be the best tight end in the NFL.
Speaker 8: But you gotta change. And from that moment I started crying. Yeah,
Speaker 8: I shook his hand. I said, okay, coach, I got you.
Speaker 8: From that point on, I was you know it, Scott.
Speaker 3: I fucking love thank you.
Speaker 1: A one more touchdowns and I think we need a
Speaker 1: fucking oscar right there. I'm crying right oh baby, you
Speaker 1: got you got both characters in there.
Speaker 3: You got a tear. That was also good. I can't
Speaker 3: wait to see playing b That was awesome, so funny.
Speaker 1: What's the relationship with Coach Singletary now?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: I love He's like a he's like a father figure, brother,
Speaker 2: He's just all he's all, He's all of that.
Speaker 10: Man.
Speaker 2: I reached out to him and when I was writing
Speaker 2: this book, I was like, coach, can you I love
Speaker 2: to have you, you know, do the forward this book.
Speaker 2: He's like to beat honor He's like to be an honor.
Speaker 2: I was like, Wow, that's amazing. I appreciate your blessings
Speaker 2: for that, and uh LinkedIn with the publishing company and
Speaker 2: you know the rest was his.
Speaker 4: Wow, that's pretty darnk cool, full circle moment.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 1: Full circle Jack, give us the aftermath in the legacy
Speaker 1: of this game.
Speaker 4: So this one, this one wrapped up. Thirty four thirteen,
Speaker 4: full back Leonard Weaver had a heck of a second half,
Speaker 4: broke off some I mean a forty three yarder and
Speaker 4: a sixty two yarder for a full back. That's crazy.
Speaker 4: Shout out of Leonard Weaver. Bro Carson Newman Baby. Thirty
Speaker 4: four thirteen, Seattle wins.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: Mike Singletary goes on his legendary press conference rant that
Speaker 4: we all know and that we just broke down. The
Speaker 4: Niners finished seven and nine, finished the season five and two,
Speaker 4: so got some little momentum going into nine. Seahawks finished
Speaker 4: four and twelve. The home Gren era comes to an end.
Speaker 4: They bring in Jim morri for a lone season before
Speaker 4: the Pete Carroll Era starts, and both teams would miss
Speaker 4: the playoffs. Mike Singletary would be retained as head coach
Speaker 4: for the next season. Kind of that one ended up.
Speaker 1: Baby, what are the greatest coaching rants of all time?
Speaker 1: That's gotta be It's gotta Denny Green.
Speaker 3: Oh, that was a good one. We thought they were
Speaker 3: the Hawk.
Speaker 4: I love his energy.
Speaker 3: Man, alright, p Denny Man? Yea? Who else coaches? Man?
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think.
Speaker 5: I'm a man.
Speaker 4: I'm for the Olahoma State one college.
Speaker 3: Bill's had some.
Speaker 4: Good ones in his own right.
Speaker 3: What does he said?
Speaker 1: That's not a rant though, it's like a word for Bill,
Speaker 1: a legendary.
Speaker 3: Is this is is this is?
Speaker 1: This has got to be one of the best coach
Speaker 1: trans It's up there.
Speaker 3: You never be up there, I think. So it's got
Speaker 3: to be. That's pretty funny, and.
Speaker 4: Some good came out of it, which I love because
Speaker 4: that's pretty funny.
Speaker 3: He's not getting me better than that. There's no way. Then.
Speaker 1: Do you think the Niners are going to get over
Speaker 1: the hump this year or what? What do you think
Speaker 1: about the current Niners?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they I think right now, there's a
Speaker 2: few bumps and bruises. This team has really been. It's
Speaker 2: really suffered, you know, mostly injuries and things of that nature.
Speaker 2: But I don't think it really. I don't think it
Speaker 2: has anything to do with the coaching staff. I think
Speaker 2: they really they fix the things that they needed to
Speaker 2: fix since the last Super super Bowl from last year.
Speaker 2: I believe in them. I think they can do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be a lot harder, you know. I
Speaker 3: use out for the year.
Speaker 1: We still don't know where Christian by the time this
Speaker 1: episode is out, Christian could be balling right now, or
Speaker 1: he still could be exactly somewhere on IR. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: just feel like I feel like they're losing their mojo
Speaker 1: because they like to play from ahead. They like to
Speaker 1: get that lead, you know, get that run game, have
Speaker 1: the defense play third down, exotic blitzes, exotic games with
Speaker 1: the lineman with four, and then play the zone in
Speaker 1: the back that's where they get all their turnovers. So
Speaker 1: like right now, they're not jumping on leads right now,
Speaker 1: and so they're playing the game from behind, which they're
Speaker 1: not comfortable really doing right now. And you know, if
Speaker 1: Rock Purty uses this time, you know and remembers this
Speaker 1: time not happening his weapons, if he uses this much
Speaker 1: like the rant for a learning experience on Hey, You're
Speaker 1: gonna have to win games when you don't have your guys.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it can help him in the you know, for
Speaker 1: the future. That's why I think they're right right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and I believe that I strongly do it.
Speaker 2: But but if Pertty is who we who he say
Speaker 2: he is, and who we believe him to be, believe
Speaker 2: he is, I think he can Uh, he could be the.
Speaker 3: Answer for this team. Yeah, you think that, I think so.
Speaker 2: I think so, as long as he's stay consistent and
Speaker 2: he do with everything he has to do to get
Speaker 2: the ball downfield, first down, touchdown.
Speaker 1: He's been turning the ball over a little too much
Speaker 1: right now. You we gotta gotta get it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it. You can't do that. You can't. That's
Speaker 3: a that's a lack of focus. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: If he can get back to to that killer instinct
Speaker 2: he had coming in.
Speaker 3: Sometimes I think.
Speaker 1: He he thinks about how everyone talks about him being
Speaker 1: so basic, where he tries to be too extraordinary. Yeah,
Speaker 1: to like prove a point, Hey Bud, just be you,
Speaker 1: just be you and dice right, you know, But we
Speaker 1: miss anything from this game or this this generation.
Speaker 3: Pats No nothing, I don't nothing or forty nine ers.
Speaker 4: Geez, we got pats on the brain maybe, Oh, they
Speaker 4: got to get in football money.
Speaker 7: So you edited your career in Washington. What was it
Speaker 7: like finishing your career with your hometown team.
Speaker 2: Oh, finishing my career with the Washington Commanders back in
Speaker 2: my hometown team, back in my hometown was truly amazing
Speaker 2: for me because I had a chance to play in
Speaker 2: front of friends and family and spent time with the
Speaker 2: people that I never really had a chance to spend
Speaker 2: time with, like my mom, because my grandparents raised me
Speaker 2: and my six siblings. So it was it was great
Speaker 2: and that's the reason why I'm still there because of
Speaker 2: my experience playing with the team and being back there
Speaker 2: is really I'm really intrigued with the city. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's an amazing city. Is it evolved, how it evolved
Speaker 2: is just just pretty cool to see because I grew
Speaker 2: up there, and you know, having that ten year separation,
Speaker 2: going to San Francisco and coming back after leaving Denver.
Speaker 3: I don't want to go anywhere else yet. I very appreciative.
Speaker 5: Yeah, how been playing with Jade Daniels?
Speaker 2: Oh, jayde Daniels, watching him in college, everything that he
Speaker 2: did in college I knew that was going to transfer
Speaker 2: over to the NFL. I mean, that dude was that
Speaker 2: dude's I mean, he didn't want to win the Heisman
Speaker 2: for nothing. And I met him when he was in college.
Speaker 2: I just I could tell he was just a great kid.
Speaker 2: Very seemed like he was very focused. He loved playing,
Speaker 2: he loved the game of football, and he just I mean,
Speaker 2: he can do it, man, he can do it.
Speaker 3: Can't teach that, can't teach it.
Speaker 2: He's just a He's a special football player.
Speaker 5: And I've got one more selfish question.
Speaker 7: I'm a big Virginia Tech fan, and no, Maryland, you
Speaker 7: played in Virginia Tech Blacksberger on a Thursday night. Can
Speaker 7: you just tell me a little bit what it's like
Speaker 7: playing being on a way team playing a Blackspur on
Speaker 7: Thursday night.
Speaker 2: Yeah, playing at Virginia Tech is that's that's a crazy
Speaker 2: the environment. They love football out there, They love football
Speaker 2: and they most of the time they have great players.
Speaker 2: And I believe who was who was quarterback when I
Speaker 2: was there, Marcus Vick. I believe it's the quarterback when
Speaker 2: I was Yeah, he was.
Speaker 3: He was. I mean he could play, I mean college,
Speaker 3: he could play.
Speaker 2: He was fast he could he could pass and was
Speaker 2: camp chancellor there.
Speaker 3: I think he might have been Josh Morgan, might have
Speaker 3: been Josh Morgan was there exactly Josh.
Speaker 2: I played against Josh in high school, was at Eastern
Speaker 2: Senior High School when I was at Dunbar, Dumbbar.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they had some talent for sure. But yeah,
Speaker 3: that's that's a tough environment to play man, love it,
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after this quick break.
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Speaker 5: I had a four point one.
Speaker 1: The star power of this game zero to ten decimals, okay, ten, ten,
Speaker 1: three backup quarterbacks played, you got you got, you got
Speaker 1: Vernon in there.
Speaker 3: You gotta put some respect on JT. So I'll go
Speaker 3: with the his YouTube. You don't have to go to
Speaker 3: I'm saying ten. I'm thinking about all the other guys.
Speaker 4: You gotta get the j T o L he's got
Speaker 4: YouTube yet, No, not yet, go back.
Speaker 3: Take that ten away, let's go. Let's go six, six.
Speaker 7: Six point five march On worth three point five points
Speaker 7: that right.
Speaker 3: At least I give.
Speaker 7: A six out of five point one.
Speaker 4: I was going a little low there.
Speaker 3: Sorry.
Speaker 1: The game play to this thirty five to fourteen game,
Speaker 1: zero to ten decimals, okay, zero being terrible, ten being.
Speaker 3: Three point five three five integrity score very integrity type score.
Speaker 3: Uh this man, this guy.
Speaker 1: He respects the integrity of the art. I love that
Speaker 1: there's I could feel it. I'm gonna go with a
Speaker 1: five to one, still pro football.
Speaker 4: I love fall four point zero.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm righting the four point two.
Speaker 1: Now we score the name of the game. They can't
Speaker 1: play with them game. That's cultural significance, cultural significance. We
Speaker 1: are talking about this game literally, damn near twenty years later,
Speaker 1: Week eight game.
Speaker 4: You say that line. Everyone knows what game you're talking about.
Speaker 1: Let's score this name of this game.
Speaker 5: Yeah, heck yes, oh yeah, seven, five, seven point five.
Speaker 4: I went with an eight points.
Speaker 3: I did at eight.
Speaker 7: Point one five seven eight seven, eight point seven eight.
Speaker 7: That puts us okay, It puts US sixty seventh, right
Speaker 7: below the twenty nineteen Raiders versus Bears in London and
Speaker 7: right above Week eleven or twenty eleven Week sixteen Patriots
Speaker 7: versus Bills.
Speaker 3: That feels right. That feels right, nice.
Speaker 4: Games man, that feels like a good spot.
Speaker 3: Heck yeah, wow, Brint, we miss anything o the book
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Speaker 2: That's a good movie, man, you gotta check it out.
Speaker 2: It comes out November first.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's got he just worked. It might be
Speaker 3: one of my better movies, right here, man, Yes, seventy
Speaker 3: two hours. Let me check it out. And my music
Speaker 3: is in the movie. And they showed me that's me rapping,
Speaker 3: that's me singing.
Speaker 2: No way, So I get up to stop the girl
Speaker 2: from getting from robbing the burger joint. Yeah, And I
Speaker 2: get up and I go quick whipping on the guy,
Speaker 2: and that's my song.
Speaker 3: Give me a quick eight bars.
Speaker 4: I saw the trailer on I g this morning. It
Speaker 4: looks insane.
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Speaker 3: Thank you, bro, appreciate you coming. Thank you guys.
Speaker 1: Burn Davis is fully an actor, what a guy. Fully
Speaker 1: He did like a full monologue scene right there, voices
Speaker 1: two mo and forth. His impersonations were great, too spectacular.
Speaker 1: I thought I was singletary.
Speaker 4: I thought we had a mic on the show.
Speaker 3: I wanted to ask him, did he ever mock him?
Speaker 3: Do it? Like? Second? Did you ever do you know
Speaker 3: what I mean?
Speaker 4: Or like behind his back, Like, yeah, I didn't get
Speaker 4: a chance to ask him, but I read it thing
Speaker 4: uh earlier that I guess Delaney Walker, who was on
Speaker 4: this team, Yeah, was saying that. Singletary came in later
Speaker 4: that week and like did a rap based on like
Speaker 4: his press conference to the team, and it was just like,
Speaker 4: what is this what? I didn't get a chance as room.
Speaker 1: I really wish I had, God damn.
Speaker 3: It, Jack Well.
Speaker 1: In honor of today's Mike Singletary legendary rant, we're gonna
Speaker 1: do a breakdown. Let's break down some of the other
Speaker 1: coaches rants.
Speaker 3: Huh.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of them, a lot of those
Speaker 1: press conference guys that you know. One recently in the
Speaker 1: press called team soft. That's is that a rant?
Speaker 4: It's a notable press It is a notable press conference moment.
Speaker 4: We're still talking about it. So he did something, it's something,
Speaker 4: and we kept it the football.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll keep it football when the press coaches.
Speaker 5: Because there are some great player ones too.
Speaker 3: Oh man, let's get into it.
Speaker 4: We'll run through these, We'll we'll read through the transcripts,
Speaker 4: which just make them even Funnykendy to see them on paper,
Speaker 4: and then.
Speaker 5: We'll Reac gree Mullet, Mike Gundy.
Speaker 4: Mike Gundy Oklahoma State head coach, still the head coach.
Speaker 4: This is back in seven.
Speaker 1: I'm a man, I'm not I'm not a kid.
Speaker 3: Write something by me or some coaches.
Speaker 4: And this was after this is the craziest thing is
Speaker 4: this was following a win like this was after a win.
Speaker 4: This was two days after a winter crazy. You know,
Speaker 4: on a Wednesday, he gets in there. They said he
Speaker 4: ripped the red bull before going into this, grabbed the
Speaker 4: newspaper and just goes off on the media about this.
Speaker 3: Article that that they wrote about his.
Speaker 4: His benching of the guy who had been the starter,
Speaker 4: Bobby Reid, and there was some tension there. Uh So
Speaker 4: he put in Zach Robinson, who we now know is
Speaker 4: the offensive coordinator down to Atlanta, and they were saying,
Speaker 4: according to Reid's account and others, this was a lot
Speaker 4: of posturing to really like he really wasn't.
Speaker 5: So the locker room didn't buy into this.
Speaker 4: No, Bobby Reid definitely didn't. The relationship was kind of
Speaker 4: strained there. He thought, you know, the starting job should
Speaker 4: have been his, but behind closed doors, Oklahoma State wanted
Speaker 4: to go with Robinson. And he's kind of out there
Speaker 4: fake sticking up for his guy. He's sort of the
Speaker 4: legend around it.
Speaker 3: But how many years ago this was? This was seven.
Speaker 7: I'm a man, I'm forty. I say that twice a week.
Speaker 3: It still is in the lexicon.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it also makes me feel better about getting older
Speaker 4: because not yet a man. I'm not even forty yet.
Speaker 4: So like, I'm good, I got a long ways to go. Tom,
Speaker 4: I'm still a boy.
Speaker 5: Can't write anything bad about you, that's.
Speaker 1: Right, baby, Mike Gundy said some wild stuff.
Speaker 3: He's a rodeo brother. He's not cowboys. Shout out the cowboys. Baby.
Speaker 1: He's a visor guy too, big visor.
Speaker 5: Guy, mullet guy mulle advisors.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's uh, he's a one of a kind guy.
Speaker 4: He he was.
Speaker 3: Actually he was the OC.
Speaker 4: When they recruited this Bobby Reid guy and got in
Speaker 4: a stick around. But Less Miles was the head coach,
Speaker 4: which I forgot. I forgot out Less Miles at Oklahoma State.
Speaker 4: Oh shit, that one kind of went under my radar.
Speaker 4: But a tie back into this game that prompted this rant.
Speaker 4: They had beat they want to shootout against Texas Tech
Speaker 4: a couple of days before this forty nine forty five
Speaker 4: Dola in this.
Speaker 3: Game, Yeah, fourteen.
Speaker 4: Catches for two hundred and thirty three yards in a
Speaker 4: tuddy Graham Harrold's out there throwing till his arm falls off.
Speaker 4: Forty six of sixty seven for six hundred forty six yards,
Speaker 4: five touchdowns.
Speaker 3: Jesus, that is.
Speaker 4: The old Crowdtree to Crabtree, fourteen catches, two hundred and
Speaker 4: thirty seven yards, three touchdowns.
Speaker 3: This game is core had a two game.
Speaker 5: I missed Big twelve.
Speaker 3: I missed when it was like that man.
Speaker 1: Dola and Crabtree. That's a good little that's a good receiver.
Speaker 3: That is fun. Baby year.
Speaker 5: They were just breaking the all time touchdown record.
Speaker 3: Just letting it fly. Oh, Dola made the guys go
Speaker 3: on a rant.
Speaker 4: Dola Crabtree friend of the show, Dola, we love you, baby, Vodola,
Speaker 4: go vote. But I love that. I just rarely do
Speaker 4: you get a great rant days after a win. It's
Speaker 4: a unique, it's unique in the rant world. We got
Speaker 4: a we had Dennis Green. We mentioned that a little
Speaker 4: bit with Vernon during the episode. Vern was a fan
Speaker 4: of that rant when he was the head coach of
Speaker 4: the Arizona Cardinals. This is two thousand and six. This
Speaker 4: is Rex Grossman Super Bowl year.
Speaker 5: Baby, like that defense was just on fire.
Speaker 4: After a Monday night game, Dennis Green's Cardinals were one
Speaker 4: in four. The Bears, who eventually went to the Super
Speaker 4: Bowl were five and zero, and after three quarters of football,
Speaker 4: Arizona was leading them twenty three to ten. But with
Speaker 4: five minutes ago, the peanut punch Man, the punch man
Speaker 4: peanut till he returned to Edgard and j Games fumble
Speaker 4: for a tuddy edge edge of Cardinals years. You forget
Speaker 4: about those, don't forget about them?
Speaker 7: Which are better than? Which is which is better? Edgrid
Speaker 7: James from the Cardinals or Emmitt Smith on the Cardinals?
Speaker 3: Oh both weirdo.
Speaker 1: Both probably think went over a thousand. You have to
Speaker 1: look that up here real quick.
Speaker 3: No, you don't have to.
Speaker 4: Just then with and then two minutes later after that frumble,
Speaker 4: Devin Huster returns upon eighty three yards, which would be
Speaker 4: the game winning score.
Speaker 3: So it was a brutal loss.
Speaker 4: Rip their hearts out and Dennis Green takes the podium
Speaker 4: man and he lets him fly.
Speaker 3: Baby, are who we thought they were? That's why we
Speaker 3: took the damn field. You want to crown them, to
Speaker 3: crown their ass.
Speaker 1: But we they were that they were remember that, Yes,
Speaker 1: we let them off TK like the coach slam Bro.
Speaker 4: That was all time, all the time.
Speaker 3: I loved that. They's such an old, old school guy.
Speaker 3: We let them off talk crown their ass, crown.
Speaker 4: I never really heard that term crown him until Dennis
Speaker 4: screen Now every time I hear someone say it, I'm.
Speaker 3: Like Dennis crowd. They picked off Rex Grossman for he
Speaker 3: passed away?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I p Man all right, p knis screen Man ready?
Speaker 4: Moscus carter Man losing what one game that season?
Speaker 3: Yeah, the heck of a guy.
Speaker 4: Heck a, this might be my favorite. Moving on, moving on,
Speaker 4: next one. Jim Mora, another guy we mentioned during the
Speaker 4: Minneapolis Colts.
Speaker 1: His son oh Is. This was this after like paying
Speaker 1: the playing the Patriots.
Speaker 4: This was two thousand and one. This was after the Niners.
Speaker 3: Oh they they lost. Talk about playoffs? You kidding me?
Speaker 4: Playoffs?
Speaker 3: I just hope we went another game. We'll talk about playoffs.
Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? Playoffs? I just hope we can
Speaker 3: win another game.
Speaker 5: Playoffs. I say this one four times a week.
Speaker 4: This was they fell to four and six, So this
Speaker 4: would have been week ten.
Speaker 3: Oh I don't believe, right, yeah.
Speaker 4: Weekend because they moved to four and six after this game.
Speaker 4: Peyton Manning through four picks this game, so that was
Speaker 4: kind of the story of that when they lost forty
Speaker 4: one to twenty to San fran Man. So that was
Speaker 4: a young Peyton Manning just getting ripped. And then thirty
Speaker 4: went on to say, I don't know. All I know
Speaker 4: is we threw four interceptions and fumbled once and one
Speaker 4: interception they returned for a touchdown.
Speaker 3: Three others were in our endo the field and they score.
Speaker 3: That's all I know.
Speaker 4: That's inexcusable. Inexcusable, And then he went on to the
Speaker 4: classic playoffs. Talk to me about playoffs. So threw Peyton
Speaker 4: under the bus a little bit there, but I mean he
Speaker 4: was he was in rent mode.
Speaker 3: Man. He definitely threw him under the bus.
Speaker 4: Four receptions?
Speaker 3: Is Jim Morrigan he's still with us? All right?
Speaker 1: If he's still kicking, let me double check here, where's
Speaker 1: his son, where's his junior? Or he's coaching Papa Papa
Speaker 1: Jim morrew eighty nine.
Speaker 4: Let's go Jim more And then the sun he was
Speaker 4: I remember was the Falcons say Yukon My bad.
Speaker 3: Sorry you come.
Speaker 7: He was a US head coach for a while, holding
Speaker 7: it down, bro, you I always I always hated Jim
Speaker 7: Moore junior, just because making Mike Vick run a West
Speaker 7: Coast offense. It's just like, I'm like fourteen years old.
Speaker 7: I'm just like, that's the dumbest thing you've ever seen.
Speaker 7: Fix whole thing is like improvisation and throwing the ball
Speaker 7: deep and being an athlete. You're gonna put him on
Speaker 7: timing routes. What are we fucking doing here? That's my rant.
Speaker 7: That's pretty good. That's a pretty good postcast.
Speaker 3: Baby, Mike Vick.
Speaker 4: Fuck, we love you, We love your Mike.
Speaker 1: Mike and West Coast would be lethal. It wasn't went
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl?
Speaker 3: Didn't didn't they didn't Mike go to the super Bowl,
Speaker 3: or they went. They went to this.
Speaker 7: They beat the Packers in the playoffs in Lambeau before
Speaker 7: they brought in Jim.
Speaker 5: Oh right, all right, next Michaels, Mike Singletary.
Speaker 4: We all know that. We we talked about that. When
Speaker 4: we we don't have a whole heck of a lot.
Speaker 3: I don't have Vernon to do the.
Speaker 4: I mean Vernon Davis here with us, So I don't
Speaker 4: even know if we should try.
Speaker 3: I like, I like calling them vern I like Vernon.
Speaker 4: I like when he said former vern Broadway, vern Broadway,
Speaker 4: ver Broadway, Verne had a great ring to it.
Speaker 5: Who wants to go to the Jets?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a wild one.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you gotta, if you think about it,
Speaker 1: if you got it turned around and wanted the Jets,
Speaker 1: you'd be a king forever. Yes, So, I mean I
Speaker 1: could see why guys want to do it. It's it's
Speaker 1: still New York City. It's still Broadway, Joe. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of tradition with the Jets. Like it's not like
Speaker 1: they're Jacksonville.
Speaker 3: No, really, it's like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they did win one Super Bowl in this was
Speaker 1: it sixties, I mean, but that's still it's like one
Speaker 1: of the great game and those people.
Speaker 3: Love their football.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean so, I it'll be like so
Speaker 1: weird when they when they do win.
Speaker 3: I think it'd be cool.
Speaker 4: Will it happen in the next twenty years?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know either. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it'd be cool, but I wouldn't
Speaker 3: be mad.
Speaker 4: It'd be something. Yeah, I mean it would, it would
Speaker 4: be good.
Speaker 1: It'd be good for the league for sure, be good
Speaker 1: for the shield.
Speaker 5: Of the historically snake bit franchises. Let's just say members
Speaker 5: or the Chargers, Browns, Browns, Lions.
Speaker 3: Who's going rounds and Lions?
Speaker 1: Lions? Lions will do before them all. I think, Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, that's kind of crazy.
Speaker 5: Chargers with Harbor, I know, it's weird right now.
Speaker 1: They've been competitive and with Philip Rivers not too too
Speaker 1: far back, Yeah, but they've never the Browns have never,
Speaker 1: like they had one playoff win since like Bernie Kozar.
Speaker 3: Yeah, with Baker and then Detroit.
Speaker 4: I mean I got to learn from it, hopefully.
Speaker 1: I mean Peter Schrager picked Packers over Chiefs or Packers Chiefs,
Speaker 1: Chiefs win and three peat, and I guess he's done
Speaker 1: it like three times in a row.
Speaker 3: He picked the winner too, or just I don't know, clairvoyant.
Speaker 1: What else would we got herm Edwards, herm baby?
Speaker 4: This was This was HERM at the Jets, HERM wearing
Speaker 4: the crew neck, the shield, polo or a sweatshirt here,
Speaker 4: great Krwnick was just a shield. I love that this
Speaker 4: was back in Oh wait, another midweek rant. This was
Speaker 4: at his Wednesday presser. The Jets were sitting at two
Speaker 4: and five and herm just lets it loose, baby, he
Speaker 4: lets it rip. Another great woman is very quotable. This
Speaker 4: is what's great about sports. You play to win the game. Hello,
Speaker 4: You play to win the game. You don't just play
Speaker 4: to play it.
Speaker 3: Hello.
Speaker 5: It was to win the game.
Speaker 4: I love that one.
Speaker 3: David Bennett.
Speaker 1: David Bennett, we might need some context. This is a
Speaker 1: This is a Carolina twenty eleven. I remember this from
Speaker 1: the world of college football. He is the head coach
Speaker 1: at Coastal Carolina. Only lasted a few more months after this,
Speaker 1: but this was this was a great one. When a
Speaker 1: coach is up there meowing at a press conference, you
Speaker 1: know you're in for something special.
Speaker 3: You read this. You need to be more like a dog.
Speaker 3: We got a bunch of cats in here.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 4: Looking in the mirror, do I look good? I got
Speaker 4: my extra bands on, I got my other's shoes.
Speaker 3: Be a dog.
Speaker 4: We don't need no mews. We don't need no more cats.
Speaker 4: We need more dogs.
Speaker 3: So he was uh.
Speaker 4: He preceded this by telling a story about getting his
Speaker 4: sons ready for a golf tournament. And a cat got
Speaker 4: stuck in their screen door at their house, and he
Speaker 4: was yelling to his sons.
Speaker 3: There's a cat in the house. What, there's a cat
Speaker 3: in the house.
Speaker 4: And he went this whole back and forth, and uh,
Speaker 4: he starts meowing a bunch, and then he lays into
Speaker 4: this about dogs.
Speaker 1: Baby Coastal needed some dogs, and that, right there is
Speaker 1: why football players and coaches have the dumb tag. Yes,
Speaker 1: right there, that is that is what are we doing.
Speaker 5: He's not wrong. You know, cats with dogs.
Speaker 4: He's not wrong.
Speaker 3: I can get it.
Speaker 5: But I transcription too. Where we get this transcription from?
Speaker 3: Uh? I just wrote it after the.
Speaker 7: Thing because some dogs are og and some dogs are
Speaker 7: a And I think it actually works with how I.
Speaker 4: Think he d d a W referring to the yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, like we need to be playing more like a
Speaker 7: dog with an Oh great, I need a dag.
Speaker 5: Yeah, be a dog.
Speaker 3: I think be a dog? Could be an a a
Speaker 3: w G. More dogs. Yeah, you needed to go.
Speaker 1: A w G dog is like a bat like dirty dog.
Speaker 1: That's like what this is. This is I wouldn't say
Speaker 1: dumb tag, but I'm pretty sure after this. In looking
Speaker 1: back on this in twenty twenty four. This coach. Do
Speaker 1: you think he wins? Is a little like I shouldn't
Speaker 1: have said that.
Speaker 4: I wonder. I mean, this is one of the I mean,
Speaker 4: like when you're pulling out the sound effects when.
Speaker 1: You're great analogy. I'm an analogy guy. But uh, where's
Speaker 1: he at? Let me see what he's up.
Speaker 7: To these last he was an administrative person at Lensington
Speaker 7: School District one in South Carolina.
Speaker 3: I love it baby high School. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably getting paid a boat load too because he's viral. Hey, yeah,
Speaker 1: the guys cashing in. Let's go coach.
Speaker 4: Coastal Carolina, home of Isaiah likely.
Speaker 3: Isaiah like love Isaiah likely beast? Oh is this a
Speaker 3: coach Belichick? Yeah? Let's me and Jack should wait? Two hands?
Speaker 3: What do you want to be reporter?
Speaker 5: Or do you want to be Bill? Someone who wants
Speaker 5: to me Bill?
Speaker 4: I feel like the guy that does the best Bill impression.
Speaker 5: You want to be Bill?
Speaker 3: I'll be Bill.
Speaker 5: Do you want to be the reporter?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I'll be reported?
Speaker 4: Okay ready, Jewels, Yeah, your team has been successful for
Speaker 4: so long. How difficult is it to adjust to the
Speaker 4: adversity of Monday night's game and to get back on track?
Speaker 4: This team in this organization hasn't had these sort of
Speaker 4: issues in the past. Or we're on the Cincinnati You
Speaker 4: mentioned Tom Brady's age.
Speaker 1: Well, we're on to Cincinnati. Do you think having a
Speaker 1: third that we're on to Cincinnati? Nothing about the past,
Speaker 1: nothing about the future. Right now, we're preparing for Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: Do you think the.
Speaker 4: Talent you have here is good?
Speaker 1: We're getting ready for Cincinnati.
Speaker 4: Do you think you've done enough to help Tom Brady?
Speaker 1: We're getting ready for Cincinnati, That's what we're doing.
Speaker 4: And then I think we all know it ended up
Speaker 4: happening in that twenty fourteen season with the New England Patriots.
Speaker 3: Everyone that you're going to beat the Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 7: I remember we had an important shoot that Tuesday after
Speaker 7: the Cincinnati game, and when you were playing, it was
Speaker 7: always like, hope the Pats fucking win, otherwise shoots getting canceled,
Speaker 7: and I remember being very happy that you guys kicked
Speaker 7: the ship out of the Bengals for that.
Speaker 5: Shit we had. Was it Google last, I don't know,
Speaker 5: it was later than that.
Speaker 3: Was it Coach Up? I don't know.
Speaker 5: I have to look that up because I.
Speaker 4: Just remember riding on the Cincinnati game forty three to seventeen. Baby, well,
Speaker 4: but now was Andy Dalton back then?
Speaker 1: Oh red rockets, Oh coach now in the media, Chatty Caddy.
Speaker 4: Now he Chatty Caddy A far cry from this guy. Oh,
Speaker 4: oh my gosh, coach.
Speaker 5: Do we have a favorite out of these?
Speaker 1: I like Danny Dennis Green.
Speaker 4: I like Danny Green. I think the best Danny Danny.
Speaker 4: I think it just had the most, It had the
Speaker 4: most passion behind it, It had the viger It felt
Speaker 4: so authentic, it was real.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know that one that that seems a little.
Speaker 3: Yeah he was posturing.
Speaker 7: I think, yeah, Arizona team was dogshit and dogshit for
Speaker 7: a while, Like then they should have won that game.
Speaker 1: Dennis Green is legitimately like really like hurt and mad
Speaker 1: about this.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, that's a.
Speaker 4: Man that just blew a thirteen point lead in the.
Speaker 1: Jim Mora is just like he's over it.
Speaker 5: He might be my favorite just because I just will
Speaker 5: some cod.
Speaker 1: He's conceded to be. He's done singletary growing experience.
Speaker 3: I guess I.
Speaker 7: Will say, Jim Mora in the studio when we're hanging
Speaker 7: around than that house, if you will, like occasionally I'll
Speaker 7: just do a playoffs. And then from the other room
Speaker 7: often Jack will be like, you're playing it within the game,
Speaker 7: or we're just trying to win a game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't talk to me about playoffs.
Speaker 4: These are all like the fact that these have such
Speaker 4: staying power in the sports lexicon, or.
Speaker 1: Even just herm is just frustrated. Is just frustrated, Like
Speaker 1: with this, he's like the question. He let the question
Speaker 1: get to him a little bit.
Speaker 4: Oh big time.
Speaker 3: That's that. And then Daven Bennett, I don't know, was
Speaker 3: he trying to go viral? It seemed like it. I mean,
Speaker 3: I don't think he was, but it just seemed like it.
Speaker 1: What do you guys think? And you want to hear
Speaker 1: about that in the questions?
Speaker 5: I can only imagine.
Speaker 1: And then Bill like, this isn't really a rant. This
Speaker 1: is a word. This is three words. We're on the Cincinnati. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is considered I think in building.
Speaker 5: Rant is a word that we can change. Yeah, most
Speaker 5: like them.
Speaker 3: He loves yes now.
Speaker 1: I've heard him reference it a couple of times. I
Speaker 1: listened to one on his ship. He's I think he's good.
Speaker 4: People want us to do this game too, by the way,
Speaker 4: we should. They want to do the I think that's
Speaker 4: almost got to be like a two hand er. You
Speaker 4: do the week before and then you do the Kansas
Speaker 4: City game, and then you do that one.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 5: Kansas City was the Kansas City the game is before.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so you do maybe your reference that one
Speaker 4: heavy and then you do this sincy blowout. I don't
Speaker 4: know what you technically consider the game that we do.
Speaker 3: It's annoyed.
Speaker 7: I can only imagine all these are two thousands what
Speaker 7: and I don't know how coach post game press conferences work,
Speaker 7: game whatever, whatever one he wants to do some Navy
Speaker 7: Army game, I would do anything.
Speaker 3: He'll do that for a million percent.
Speaker 12: Lacrosse Wesley and lacrosse Cherokees versus the goddamn Apache lacrosse game.
Speaker 12: We should we should, we should tap into a sixteen thirty.
Speaker 3: I'm three.
Speaker 7: We should happen to AI and did like what a
Speaker 7: Vincelambardi like post game would be.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I know there'd probably be some like
Speaker 4: some crazy old old man.
Speaker 7: Flying around Vincelambardi like if they did post game press
Speaker 7: conferences and there was video.
Speaker 3: Ye outside it outside an't gonna counter up follow.
Speaker 4: Hey, I don't know why I made him in nineteen
Speaker 4: twenties gangster.
Speaker 3: Because he is.
Speaker 4: I'm looking at this box score of this Cardinals game,
Speaker 4: Matt Liner versus Rex Grossman.
Speaker 3: What a game? She's Louise, Matt Lioner, Man.
Speaker 4: And Cam Bolden twelve catches one hundred and thirty six
Speaker 4: yards of ads.
Speaker 1: It's Matt Lioner's son's birthday here soon.
Speaker 3: I just did like an email thing for it. How
Speaker 3: would you possibly what did you just say, Matt Liner? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Why why do you know it?
Speaker 1: Because I literally just had to do an email for
Speaker 1: like a you know, like a well wishous thing.
Speaker 5: Oh, I actually send an email A nice guy.
Speaker 1: Whatever I send, it could be it could have I
Speaker 1: think it's uh or graduation.
Speaker 3: He's a stud player. He is. He's getting some looks man.
Speaker 3: But man, that was fun. That was a fun episode
Speaker 3: with Vernon.
Speaker 5: One thing quick on Vernon.
Speaker 7: When we book a guest, it's often like there's a
Speaker 7: there's a little bit of a dance on figuring out
Speaker 7: the game. Oftentimes it's asking them what game they want
Speaker 7: to do, But sometimes you know, you have to be
Speaker 7: limited with the amount of communications just to kind of
Speaker 7: point it in and.
Speaker 5: Get them locked in.
Speaker 7: And with this one, he we asked the game and
Speaker 7: literally in seconds he had this game and we're like, yes,
Speaker 7: he knows this.
Speaker 5: He knows the fucking assignment and we were so pumped
Speaker 5: to do this game with Vernon.
Speaker 1: It's clearly prepared. You hear what he takes his acting career.
Speaker 1: He probably did some serious Earnie homework on this goddamn
Speaker 1: podcast before he came here.
Speaker 3: He's Ernie ship.
Speaker 4: I didn't I didn't see to prepare.
Speaker 1: I mean, he had some impressions, he must have. I
Speaker 1: don't know if he's an impression guy. I know he's
Speaker 1: an actor, but he knows that we do impressions, so
Speaker 1: he came in light. I mean that was that was
Speaker 1: some fire, straight fire.
Speaker 3: Let it rip baby.
Speaker 4: Shout out Vernon, thanks for coming to those watch plan
Speaker 4: b playing b Baby seventy two hours, seventy two hours,
Speaker 4: two hours and.
Speaker 3: Seventy two hours or.
Speaker 4: Or no, uh that was the other one.
Speaker 3: This horror. My guy, He's in so many got.
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