1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: How did Patrick Willis eat his steak? 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 2: He will eat his steak with his hands, fingers. 3 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: That's what I'm I literally tell everyone, I don't want 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: my middle linebacker eating a steak with a working knife. 5 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 3: You better pick that thing up with his hand. Absolutely, 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 3: get in there. I'm telling you, guys, you can't teach this. 7 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 1: The palm of his hand with his plate. Welcome to 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: Games with Names. I'm Julian Edelman. They're Jack and Kyler, 9 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: and we're on a mission to find the greatest. 10 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 3: Game of all time. 11 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: On today's episode, we are covering the infamous two thousand 12 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: and eight week a game between the Seattle Seahawks and 13 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty nine Ers with Super Bowl champion 14 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: Maryland great author, actor creative Guy Burnon Davis, and we 15 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: get into talking how this game changed the outlook on football, 16 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: on his life. 17 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: And my young mind. I'm thinking, like this guy doing 18 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 2: this guy think he is? I look back, that's the 19 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 2: situation I needed that. 20 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: How he became Hollywood actor? How was it acting with 21 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: Morgan Freeman man I was so nervous being there for 22 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning's last game. 23 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 2: I've never seen anything like it. I've played with some 24 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 2: awesome quarterbacks. Yeah, but he was just he was just different. 25 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 3: Man. 26 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: And then we get into some of the great coaching 27 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: rants Stanny Green. 28 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 3: Oh, that was a good one. They are we thought 29 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 3: they were. 30 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: So you gotta stick around to the very end. Let's 31 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: go Games with Names is a production of iHeartRadio. 32 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 3: October twenty eight, two thousand and eight. 33 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: The Stick Candlestick, San Francisco, California. 34 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 3: Can I play with them? Can I win with them? 35 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 3: Can I coach with him? Can't do it? This is 36 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 3: can I Play with them? 37 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 4: Games? 38 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: Man? I was in Boston for thirteen years. I'd come 39 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: out here in the off seasons. My daughter was out here, 40 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: so this is perfect for you then kind of yeah, I. 41 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 3: Mean you got to see a daughter. 42 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, she's here every Monday Tuesday win So like, 43 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: now that's great, but that's awesome, you know, it's. 44 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 2: Just it's it's it's awesome that you have a Yeah. 45 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 2: I didn't know you had a kid either, So that's cool. Yeah, 46 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 2: that's cool. 47 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,839 Speaker 1: It's been you know, it's a lot, but it's a lot, 48 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: but it's like a daughter, man, I know, I know. 49 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: It's so fun though, Yeah, and it's it's honestly The 50 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 1: most happy or the most excitement I get is when 51 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: I see like something my daughter's worked on, whether it's 52 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: in class, school presentation or on the sport field. And 53 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: seeing when she's put some work into that and her 54 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: progression and her real life, her progression through her hard 55 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: work like that right there gets me fucking toasty. 56 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 3: That's awesome. 57 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's start this thing up. Welcome to Games 58 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: with Names. Today, we are talking week eight of the 59 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight season Seahawks versus the forty nine 60 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: Ers legendary can't Win with Him game with nobody other 61 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: than Vernon Davis. Welcome to Games the Names, bro. I 62 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: appreciate thank you for being in the nuthouse. In one sentence, 63 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: why did you pick this game? 64 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 3: Because I like the game? Because I love the game? 65 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 3: You love the game A specific game, Yeah, this specific game. 66 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 3: I love this game. Why. Oh, it's just something, it's exciting. 67 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 2: It's it's just like you think about this game, it 68 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 2: reminds me of a lot of the competitions that I had. 69 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 3: The competition that I had against the Seahawks. 70 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean. It was like, man, 71 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 2: they were that team that we just couldn't stop yeah, 72 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 2: I mean those guys were I mean they had everybody 73 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 2: Camp Chancellor, Russell Wilson, me named, they had all the players, man, 74 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 2: I mean just like us, we had players too, but 75 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 2: those guys were hard to stop. 76 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a fun this like generation of the 77 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 1: forty nine ers is kind of that foundational second jump 78 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: from what I'm wearing the ninety five Niners, because there 79 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: was a long span after that where you know, ten 80 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 1: years they're bouncing from quarterback to quarterback, and you did 81 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: that here in this game. But this specific team and 82 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 1: what you're a part of I was a fan of 83 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: as a kid, and like these these grindy type years 84 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:02,559 Speaker 1: were a necessity to get to where you guys eventually got. 85 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: When you guys were you were playing in super Bowls 86 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: and stuff. Again, so like this is a fun game, 87 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: and it's a real cool game that I I think 88 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: you picked because it's probably a transformational game for you 89 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: mentality wise. After you know, Coach Singletary you know, goes out, 90 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: calls you out in front of everyone, and like after 91 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: this year you had like your like springboard your career. 92 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 3: Was this that turning point in your career talking about 93 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 3: just being weak, just the week. 94 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: Ye, the week of that game, this is the this 95 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: is after this game is when he kicked you out. 96 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, man, it was just I don't 97 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 2: say I would say that it was a Yeah, I'd 98 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 2: say it was a turning point in my career because 99 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 2: if you think of a young man coming into this league, 100 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 2: I mean you think, you know, you know all the answers, 101 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 2: but you don't until you your career start starts, right, because, uh, 102 00:05:58,080 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 2: this game, I mean there's a lot that goes with it. 103 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 2: You know, on a university, you're in a space where 104 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 2: anything can happen, and the biggest thing you need to 105 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 2: do is just work on your mental health because mental 106 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 2: mental health is everything. And and for me, I was struggling, 107 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 2: struggling mentally, and I needed something to just put me 108 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 2: back on track. And I believe the incident with Coach 109 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 2: Singletary was the moment where I realized that, Hey, if 110 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 2: I'm going to be a leader, it has to start now. 111 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 1: Wow, is this the greatest game of all time? I 112 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: don't know, that's a good question, we asked our guests. 113 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, the greatest game of all time. 114 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 3: What's life looking like these days? Uh? For me? 115 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 2: You know, it's just I just focused on the creativity, 116 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 2: from producing films to acting music. I recently bought a farm, 117 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 2: focused on my horses, riding horse, trying to get better. 118 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 2: But man's that's the key. I think that's the key 119 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 2: of life. Just doing the things that you love and 120 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 2: the things that make you happy. 121 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: Tell us about this farm. What is this farm? We 122 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: were talking about it before the show is what's this farm? 123 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 3: Thing? You got going? Yeah? This farm is? Uh, you know, 124 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 3: I this farm. 125 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 2: I credit my brother for just the dreams I had 126 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 2: before I bought this farm. 127 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 3: Like my brother, I take you back. 128 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 2: My brother wanted to create this space where he wanted 129 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 2: animals walking around the house and walking outside. But he 130 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 2: didn't have enough acres for that, but he still wanted it. 131 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 3: And before he. 132 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 2: Passed away, well after he passed away, I started having 133 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 2: dreams and one dream was that I had a farm, 134 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 2: and I woke up. I remember waking up that morning 135 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 2: getting on Zilo looking for a farm, and I called this. 136 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 2: A friend of mine has his company props release and 137 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 2: moved for free, and I thought about them. I reached 138 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 2: out to her, I said, hey, can you can you 139 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 2: can you find me a farm? 140 00:07:58,120 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 3: Right? 141 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 2: She couldn't find anything. So then a friend of mine 142 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 2: called me later, like two weeks after that and say, hey, 143 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 2: I got I found this farm. You want to go 144 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 2: half on it? I said, no, not really, I'm not 145 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 2: really interested right now. I was looking, but I'm good now. 146 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 2: But I actually got. 147 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 3: I called. 148 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 2: I called Moved for Free and props Move for Free, 149 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 2: the company that my friend has. I said, hey, can 150 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 2: you show me this farm? And they took me on 151 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 2: the farm and I fell in love. I said I 152 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 2: wanted pay cash for it, bought it right then, and 153 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 2: there got. 154 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: A farm, got a farm, and now you're a farm owner. 155 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 3: Now I'm a farmer, farmer. Let's go, let's go. 156 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: What's your favorite farm animal? 157 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 2: My favorite farm animal? I would probably have to go with, 158 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 2: uh man. I would like to say the goat or 159 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,719 Speaker 2: the chickens, but uh or maybe the turtle, but I 160 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 2: can't say that. 161 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to go with Big Joe. I just 162 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 3: bought Big Joe, big horse, big, big talking oh man. 163 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 3: He's a Belgian. Belgian. Yeah, he's a Belgian. 164 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: I think I would have to go with the horse too. 165 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: My daughter loves horses, and you know, we went out 166 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: to Hawaiian. My agent set us up with this awesome 167 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: place where you get to ride the horses on the beach, 168 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 1: and uh, you really do get a. 169 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 3: Connection with that animal when you're on it. You know 170 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 3: what I mean? 171 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: You got this big stud thing that you're on because 172 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: I was on a big ass horse. 173 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 3: I don't know what is it. I'm a horse guy. 174 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 3: I got all this thing. 175 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: I was like, I didn't want to show a no 176 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: feury thing, but I was sitting there. I just got 177 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: out of them. I was like, yeah, I feel them. 178 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 1: I feel that's a connection. It's a good connection. It's 179 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: a connection, right man. 180 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 3: So you you grew up in dumb you grew up 181 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 3: in d C. I grew up in Washington, d C. 182 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: You went to Dunbar, Josh Cribs my Kent State alone 183 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: went to That's right? 184 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 3: Well man, how was that? What was in that water? 185 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: Because a lot of we had a lot of good, 186 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: really good football players come. 187 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 3: Out of there. Yeah, how was Josh too? In high school? 188 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 3: Kent State? Huh out of Dunbar, Kent State, out of Dumbar. 189 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: I felt like in that area, we had a lot 190 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: of Dunbar guys that went to Kent State yeah. 191 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 192 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 2: Daryl Dowry, Darryl Dowry, Yeah yeah, I played with him 193 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 2: as well. 194 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah man, that's there was a 195 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: lot of DC cats school. 196 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 2: I actually took a visit there myself, did you unofficial, 197 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 2: but I took a visit to Kent came bro I know, man, 198 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 2: I don't. I just it was something about Maryland, you 199 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 2: know what I mean? You know, I just wanted to 200 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 2: stay close to home, and it's a. 201 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 3: Way banners. 202 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 5: Football and academics too. 203 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 3: Maryland's pretty damn nice. Yeah, it was pretty nice. Now 204 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 3: they are now that they're Big ten? 205 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, easy, man, what's up with that? How do you 206 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: feel about that? The whole they're in the Big ten now? 207 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: That's kind of weird, isn't it. Yeah, it is weird, 208 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 1: but I think it's good. I'm an a CC guy, Yeah, 209 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: but it is. It is kind of weird that they're 210 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: Big ten now. But hey, look, I appreciate anything that's 211 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 1: gonna help the team win. I'm all about it. As 212 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: well as at a father school. 213 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 3: They've done that. I mean, the school's beautiful and. 214 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: You're probably going to get better recruits because you're in 215 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: the Big ten, right. 216 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 2: The facilities, and you know, just every money there comes 217 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 2: down to money, the bottom line, right right. 218 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 3: What was Cribs like in high school? Cribs was, uh, 219 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 3: he's bad. He was very he was quiet. Quiet, Yeah, 220 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 3: he say he was a little quiet. He said young. 221 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 3: Hebserved a young what's up? Yeah? Young? What's you come on? Joe? 222 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 3: He always I remember him always saying, hey, yea so 223 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 3: funny man, Yeah, what's up? Yah? Oh man? What year 224 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 3: were you? He was there? I was going, he was there. 225 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 3: I got there two years after he left. 226 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: But he was a legend there and he was in 227 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: Cleveland and when we were when Cleveland was right next to Kent, 228 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 1: so he would come back to school every once in 229 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: a while and stuff, and he was like a fucking 230 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: god out there. He was onside of like buildings and 231 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: shipped in Cleveland. He was he was the man. 232 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 3: Man. That's crazy. 233 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: Like, you know, I was following because we you know, 234 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: I was like the second quarterback after. 235 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 3: Him when he left. 236 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,079 Speaker 1: And then you know, there was always comparisons. You know, 237 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: run I was running quarterback and Shosh Cribbs was fucking 238 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: Josh Cribs doing what he was doing in the league. 239 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: So you know, I always loved the cribs. 240 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, cribs, cribs to the crib, cribs to the crib 241 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 3: ribs to the crib. 242 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: Faster than what you think. Oh yeah, way faster than you. 243 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: Was like that in high school. Man, he was like 244 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: that out in high school. 245 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 3: He was. 246 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: Now, you must have been a beast in high school 247 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: because you were an athletic specimen. And I remember as 248 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 1: because you, you know, I was a Niners fan when 249 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: they drafted you. You know, you had a huge spike 250 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: in your because of your combine numbers. You would you 251 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: run four to three, jumped out the roof, you were 252 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: two fifty five or something. 253 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 3: You were just a freaking freak. 254 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: And then your first few years, you know, you were 255 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: kind of feeling it out, and then you became like 256 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: you became like pretty much a wide receiver like you 257 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 1: you would you'd be in but you were so athletic 258 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 1: and such a dominant force in the past game. I 259 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 1: remember Alex Smith widening you out. You'd be a tight 260 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: end on an island outside against corners, running go routes, 261 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: running by people Like were you like this in high 262 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 1: school or did you work for this or are you 263 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: just a specimen. What is your How did you train? 264 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: What the hell? What's going on? I said, how did 265 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: you train? 266 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 3: No? Man, I was I was always able to run. 267 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 2: That was that was my That was my bread and butter, 268 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 2: being able to run fast fast. 269 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 3: I've always been fast. 270 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 2: But what happened was when I got to college, I 271 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:38,439 Speaker 2: was able to keep my speed. 272 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, my speed never left. 273 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 2: It was like I got bigger, two hundred and fifty 274 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 2: pounds still running the four four four three. 275 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 3: It was the craziest thing. I mean it even it 276 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 3: even amazed me. I didn't. 277 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 2: I'm like wow, because I figured, you know, you get bigger, Yeah, 278 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 2: you loose loose speed. Yeah, but I was able to 279 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 2: keep my speed, and it was it was all. 280 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 3: It was always a great asset. Yeah. 281 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: Man, I just remember you running by guys and you'd 282 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: have fifty to sixty yard touchdowns at least once every 283 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: two weeks. It was fucking gnarly. And you and Cap Hatter, 284 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: I mean you guys went to the Superowl. Guy was 285 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl? 286 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 3: What do you do? Now? Do you to keep staying 287 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 3: in shape? Now? I you know I don't live, I 288 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 3: don't lift heavyweight. I'll tell you that. 289 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't. I can't lift the heavyweight. My shoulders 290 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 2: a little, a little banged up. But I work out 291 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 2: five days a week. Yeah, no lightweight, you know. Still 292 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 2: I sprint every now and then. But I just just 293 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 2: maintain good working, just good working habits. Move to the way, yeah, movement, 294 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 2: just staying nice and uh nice and loose, stretching and yeah, massages. 295 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: I still get the massages twice a week. See, I 296 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: gotta get back in it. Oh you don't get massages anymore, 297 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: you know what? Oh? 298 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 3: Man, I know. 299 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: It's so stupid because you go from like a Kobe 300 00:14:55,960 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: Beef like cow where you're massaged every two minutes, go 301 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: work out, you have perfect hydration, you eat like a 302 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: fucking king, You got the best gas. 303 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 304 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: Like that, everything's dietitioned to what you get, you the best. 305 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: And then when you retire, like you lose four of 306 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: those things, and that's a lot, you know what I mean. 307 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: You don't have the diet the same, You don't get 308 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: the bodywork, you know, running out, you don't do the stretch. 309 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 3: So I got to get back on it. Yeah. Yeah, 310 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 3: it's tough. 311 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 2: It's tough, especially when you you know, like like us 312 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 2: right now, we're not playing ball and so many other things. 313 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: That your bodies, like our bodies aren't are they're not 314 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: our number one. 315 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 3: Source of income now. Yeah, yeah, you're right, you know 316 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 3: what I mean. 317 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: So it's not my When I was playing, everything was 318 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: predicated towards my recovery my body because that was my 319 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: money maker and that's what was providing for my family. 320 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 3: Now like it's not like now I. 321 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: Have fucking meetings I gotta do because I'm doing podcasts. 322 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. 323 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: You got, you got other things that I used to 324 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: say no to me because I had to get my body 325 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: work in. 326 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know what you mean. 327 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 2: I can feel that that that clock, just that alarm 328 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 2: goes off in my mind though whenever I'm just whenever 329 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 2: I'm sitting back and I know I haven't been to 330 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 2: the gym, because I get moments where you know, I'm working, 331 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 2: I've been to the gym in four or five days. 332 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, the alarm goes off, like, man, I gotta get 333 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 6: back in the gym, Gotta get back, gotta get back. Well, 334 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 6: let me jump in real quick. I've got a question 335 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 6: for you, Vernon before we move on from that combine. 336 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 6: It was a pretty kind of viral moment before viral 337 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 6: moments were really happening. When you ran that four to 338 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 6: three in the combine. 339 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 7: Can you talk a little bit what it was like 340 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 7: in Indianapolis and then what kind of opportunities happened or 341 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 7: things happened in between the draft and the combine. 342 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 2: So, yeah, going from going from well I left Arizona, 343 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 2: I was training in Arizona before the combine and Athlete's 344 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 2: performance is where it was between that time and going. 345 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 3: To the draft. 346 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 2: It was, Man, it was like I just kept hearing 347 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 2: that song by eminem you only get one shot, you 348 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 2: have missed your chance to you know, opportunities come once 349 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 2: in the lifetime. 350 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 3: That song just kept going off inside my mind. 351 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 2: Then when I got to the combine, I started listen 352 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 2: into that song and I just I knew I was 353 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 2: only going to get one shot and if I didn't 354 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 2: capitalize on it, that was it. Because being at Maryland, 355 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 2: you know, I wasn't Yeah, I was up for the 356 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 2: MACKI every week and things of that nature, but they 357 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 2: didn't talk about me much. It was always Mercedes Lewis. 358 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 2: Mercedes Lewis, he was you know, he was the big shot. 359 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 2: And it came to the tight end position, and I 360 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 2: knew that I had to go to this combine and 361 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 2: I had to outperform everyone. And I did. And in 362 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 2: between that time, after I had my performance and getting drafted, 363 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 2: oh there was all there was. My agent was coming 364 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 2: up to He's like, you got a shot. You got 365 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 2: a chance to get drafted the top top ten, top ten, 366 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 2: it's always top ten. But I would go to these 367 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 2: meetings and I started meeting with these teams, you know, 368 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 2: you meet with the teams and things of that nature. 369 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 2: And I met with the Jets, and I knew they 370 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 2: had the fourth pick they wouldna get. They had the 371 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 2: fourth pick in the draft. I said, I'm about to 372 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 2: be I'm about to be top four. I'm about to be. 373 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 2: I mean, we would sitting we sat there, we watched 374 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 2: film and they were talking about how they were going 375 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 2: to utilize me at the position. 376 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 3: I just knew they won't take me. They take Ferguson, 377 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 3: not a. I put my head in. You wanted to 378 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 3: be in the big apple. You wanted to be in 379 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 3: the big Apple. I wanted to be in a big apple. 380 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: You make it here, you can make it anywhere. The Jets, 381 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: I mean the brickshaw Ferguson played a very He was 382 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 1: a really good football player for a very long time. 383 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: So like they didn't miss miss On, like not getting 384 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: because he was a corner center of that organization for 385 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: a while. 386 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 3: He was good even at UVA. He was very talented. 387 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 4: You could have Vernon Davis Vernon. You imagine Broadway Vern 388 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 4: freaking jets. Verne got a nice ring to it. 389 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 3: You got Broadway Vern over here here. 390 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 4: Man. 391 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 3: I like that. 392 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: Oh man, but you wouldn't have had those division rivals 393 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: against the Seattle Seahawks, and you wouldn't. I'm in the 394 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: same club getting that hit from Cam Chancellor. How about 395 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: that hit? 396 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 3: Oh can you still feel it? Oh? You said, I 397 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 3: just turned my head. I felt that explosion. Wait leads 398 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 3: the boom legion of boom Man that you get hit? Yeah, 399 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 3: he hits you. Physical, physical, it's smart. Yeah he was. Like. 400 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 3: He reminds me a lot. Patrick Willis. 401 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 2: I mean, like I mean when I think of Camp Chancellor, 402 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 2: I think about Patrick Willis. 403 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean those guys are just physical, physical, physical. 404 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: What about I remember when we played them in the 405 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, and I've only competed against him a few times. 406 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 1: But I just remember him always being like a pretty respectable, 407 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: like gentleman on the field, like he whipped your ass 408 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 1: and he'd let you know, but he wouldn't talk about it. 409 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,360 Speaker 3: He's like he was like polite with it. He's like good, 410 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 3: good rip, you know what I mean, Like, do you 411 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 3: remember that about Camber? 412 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 8: Yeah? 413 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he was very polite. He was like it was. 414 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 3: He never talked. He was very just like focused, locked in, focused, possessed. 415 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I can't only imagine how how much force 416 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: was in between you and him, like because I remember 417 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: hating him and if he felt like a stumped tree, 418 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: like he didn't move, like I had to go get 419 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: the force on him, and like you are. I just 420 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: I would never want to be in between that he 421 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 1: might get crushed. 422 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 3: What about? What about? How about Patrick Willis? Patrick was? 423 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 2: He was He's one of those type of guys. He 424 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 2: talked if he needed to, but he was kind of 425 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 2: like one of those guys. He was always locked in. 426 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,199 Speaker 2: He was on a mission. He was always want one. 427 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 2: One thing I knew for sure is that when it 428 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 2: came to game day and it's time to play, Patrick 429 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 2: will Willis was one of those guys that was want 430 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 2: to bring it. 431 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, you didn't have to worry about him. 432 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 1: No, how did Patrick Willis eat his steak? 433 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,479 Speaker 2: He would eat his steak with his hands fingers. 434 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 3: That's what I'm fucking I think I remember. I remember 435 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 3: going into that. 436 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: Hey, you see what I I literally tell everyone, I 437 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: don't want my middle linebacker eating a fucking steak with 438 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: a forking knife. 439 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 3: You better pick that thing up with his hand. Absolutely, 440 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 3: get in there. That was not even I'm. 441 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:23,360 Speaker 1: Telling you guys, you can't teach this ship. That's right, baby, 442 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: that just justified me forever. I'm so excited. 443 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 7: All right, let's about Patrick will. 444 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 3: Oh my god, the palm of his hand was his plate. 445 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 4: He didn't even barbecue, He ate a raw No wait, 446 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 4: he went over here. 447 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: Now we'll be right back after this quick break. Jamison 448 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: would like to welcome you aboard this flight to Dublin 449 00:21:55,840 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: and to invite you to join their unofficial call to 450 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: bring pro football to Ireland. Stowaway foam fingers in the 451 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: overhead compartments, and a bar kart stocked with Jamison's finest 452 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: whiskey will be making its way down the aisle after takeoff. 453 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: Because only Jamison would try to bring football to a 454 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 1: whole new country. Join the Jamison Huddle at Jamison sports 455 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: dot com. Let's go back to around October twenty eight, 456 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, this segment where we'd like to 457 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: talk about pop culture around. 458 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 3: The game, and the number one movie was. 459 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: High School Musical three Senior year this two thousand and eight. 460 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 4: Huh, big year for Efron. Baby, I don't remember that. 461 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 3: Did you watch those high school musicals? Yeah? I had 462 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 3: my Badley. Yeah, my sister and my cousin, they used 463 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 3: to watch all those musicals. 464 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: Now I know, I gotta Oh my goodness, my kid 465 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 1: doesn't like musicals that much. She's starting to get into 466 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: a little number one song, Womanizer by Britney Spears. 467 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 3: Do you get you listen to britt I like. 468 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, I used to listen to britt Yeah, pretty popular 469 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 2: back then. 470 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 1: I'm getting a lot of her too now because my 471 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: daughter likes she's seven and like she likes Britney Spears. 472 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 3: Like Britney Spears now. 473 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I you know, her mom used to probably 474 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: listen to Brittany. 475 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 3: You know my mom used to my mom, my sister 476 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 3: will throw Britney all around her. So it's you know, 477 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 3: it's these little kids. They like Brittany. 478 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 4: Brittany got the staying power. 479 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: She got staying power free, Britney, baby, is she is? 480 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 3: She She's free? Yeah? Is she free? 481 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 4: I'm just repping it still. 482 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 3: I'm still still reping it though she just got married. 483 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 4: That sounds really only look. 484 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, t I coming off back to back number ones. 485 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 1: Whatever you like, Live your Life featuring Rihanna. 486 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 3: That was some. 487 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: This was like, this was my college right here. That 488 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: was college. I was on a heater, Bro, he was 489 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: on a heater. 490 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 4: T I versus t I P was the year before 491 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 4: this paper trail was this year. Man, it was he 492 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 4: couldn't miss. This is when Rihanna was. She was just 493 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 4: she's just coming around. She was still like doing feature. 494 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 3: Yes she was. 495 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: She was still a nature and she won. She was like, 496 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 1: who's this new chick that's like about to blow up? 497 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 4: She won a billionaire? 498 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 3: Yet she won. 499 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 4: She's a billionaire with that fenty the makeup makeup crazy. 500 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: Bro, And that's what that's what the Kardashians. They're in 501 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 1: that makeup stuff too, that they're smart. 502 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 4: I need to start some some makeup lines or something, Bro, 503 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 4: I need to get. 504 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:41,719 Speaker 3: A makeup. 505 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 1: Madonna and a Rod were dating, or there were rumors 506 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 1: sweeping the nation. Remember this when they're throwing in Madonna pictures? 507 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 3: You know this. 508 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: I don't know why we're bringing this up. This is 509 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: a you know, this is a co worker of mine 510 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: at Fox right who I got to talk to the 511 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: producers on this one. 512 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 7: It's just so we can have a point that fans 513 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 7: were taunting them, so we can ask the question, what 514 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 7: was the wildest thing a fan ever said to you? 515 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:09,719 Speaker 3: Oh? 516 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 1: It was the wildest thing, the wildest, wildest. 517 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 3: Can I say anything? Can you my wife? Can you 518 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 3: asked my wife? Wow? I don't get involved with that 519 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 3: kind of stuff. What city I don't get involved with? 520 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 3: Was this in San fran fran was hometown? Yeah? That 521 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 3: was crazy? Wow? 522 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 2: I remember that. I vividly remember that. That's something that 523 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 2: will never leave my memory. 524 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,199 Speaker 5: Oh is this like the crowd and it's coming out 525 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 5: of a crowd. 526 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 3: Was like a one on one kind of conversation. 527 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 2: We just we just I was we were going, you know, 528 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,479 Speaker 2: there was a uh it was training camp and then 529 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 2: we have the fans coming to camping. 530 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 3: You know, I'm coming in, I'm walking down signing autographs. 531 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 3: Can you oh my. 532 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 4: Uh, sir, dude, that's like a that's like a week 533 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 4: ten type question, pre pre season question. 534 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: Man, those are the real fans that are going to 535 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: the real fans are going to those pre seas or 536 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 1: the training care. 537 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 3: You're sitting on those metal bleachers. That was that wasn't right. 538 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 3: That wasn't right. Did you listen to t I You 539 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 3: can have whatever? 540 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 9: You That was a good song, man, Man, that was 541 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 9: right then. 542 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 4: That was the one two thousand and was also loving 543 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 4: this club Busher and Young Jeezy. The other good one 544 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 4: Atlanta was up this year Atlanta. Man, did you like 545 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 4: did you did you listen to? Did you listen to 546 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 4: music before music game? 547 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah? What was in the I know what? 548 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 2: You know what, Man, I got to the point where 549 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 2: I started listening to like at first and again I 550 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 2: would listen to like crunk music. I was listening to 551 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 2: LITL John and you know what I mean, and just 552 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 2: like man, just all the hardcore, just hype music just 553 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 2: getting turned up. And then as I got older, I 554 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 2: started listening to jazz. 555 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 3: And things like that. 556 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:26,199 Speaker 2: Yeah same, yeah, yeah, jazz music, just slow music just 557 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 2: to relax my mind, because I found that the more 558 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 2: calm I was and relax. 559 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 3: I was I can go out and just be more. 560 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 3: I can go out and be more effective. 561 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean, I do especially a 562 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 2: year fourteen, thirteen and fourteen, it was like yeah. 563 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember. 564 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: He used to listen to movie music, so like Hans 565 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: Zimmer nice and like you listen like the Inception or 566 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: the Inner Seller like soundtrack and like I liked that 567 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: kind of music because it was like low key, but 568 00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: it allowed me to visualize my game plan. I didn't 569 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: want lyrics. I wanted to think, but I wanted something 570 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: to help me think. So that's what I like. I 571 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: like the calm music too, because you get too hyped up, 572 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,959 Speaker 1: you know, you want to blow your load. Yeah, the 573 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: first first first drive, you got this. This ain't a 574 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: sprint and it's a marathon marathon, you know what I mean. 575 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: The you know, the calmer you are, the higher, the 576 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 1: better you can get through the highs and the lows, 577 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Absolutely saw five, Zach and 578 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: Mary make a porno Secret Life, so of be What 579 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: are all everyone's making movies of crazy stories? You watching 580 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: that Hulu's Patriots? What is it called Aaron? 581 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 3: Aaron? Is that Hulu? Yeah? I think that's yeah, the 582 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 3: drama one you watch that I haven't gotten today. 583 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 2: I don't even know if I want to watch it. Man, 584 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 2: I just I put that behind me, you know what 585 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 2: I mean. I'm with you. 586 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 3: You played with the guy. I know, the guy I 587 00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 3: played against him. But it's just one those things. It's 588 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 3: like man to it is a situation. I'm with it. 589 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: But there's been some really funny clips that come out, 590 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: like all the of these shows, because they have people 591 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: that are acting as like there's a guy that acting 592 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: his Gronk in the show. There's a guy that's acting 593 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: as Belichick in the show. They have some little white 594 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: dude looking athletic as playing me. Uh, you know, like 595 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: so they have they have all these guys. 596 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 3: That's hilarious. I gotta go watch it now, let me 597 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,239 Speaker 3: go check it out. Then I gotta see this in 598 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 3: the clips. You can see the clips on social This 599 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 3: is funny. 600 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: But who would play you, guys, those those two thousand 601 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: late two thousand Super Bowl niners, who would play you 602 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: in one of those shows? 603 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 3: Actor? I don't know who would play me, man. They 604 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 3: might have More's Chestnut playing me or so. I don't know. Yes, 605 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 3: I don't know. 606 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: Man, can play yourself always a good one. Yeah, that 607 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: would bear you act. You can play yourself. You haven't 608 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: aged you know what? Yeah maybe, oh, thank you. I 609 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: appreciate that. Dude looks youngest. Maybe I could play myself. 610 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: Talk to us about your acting career, like this is 611 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: this is really cool. You take a lot of pride 612 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: in it. You got a movie plan B coming out. Uh, 613 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: you were talking about your other movie that Please Don't 614 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: Feed the Please Don't Feed the children. That was at 615 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: what made it to the film festival? 616 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, how was that? He just Uh, it was great, man, 617 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 3: it was. It was awesome. We had a lot of 618 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 3: good feedback. It was pretty cool getting out of the 619 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 3: car and no one knew me from football. 620 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, they just had my pictures from my head shots 621 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 2: printed out. 622 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 3: It's like bernon. 623 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 2: I mean some of them didn't speak English. From all 624 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,719 Speaker 2: around the world. Love horror, Yeah, movies. 625 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:46,959 Speaker 3: It was. It was dope. I thought that was I 626 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 3: was like, man, this is amazing. 627 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: That's gotta be amazing on your part because you you've 628 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: done such a great job in your football career to 629 00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: where you're doing something else and people are recognizing you 630 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 1: for that. That's very inspirational for all the other guys 631 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: in the leagues. That's pretty cool, man. Now, how's the 632 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: transition from how did that transition go from football to 633 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: what you're doing now? 634 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of correlation between football and 635 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 2: when I'm anything in the creative space, whether it's music, acting, dancing, 636 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 2: whatever it is. 637 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 3: It's the preparation. The preparation is the biggest part. 638 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 2: And I tell this story, and I believe I talk 639 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 2: about this in my book, but I tell the story 640 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 2: about the things that I did before game day. Yeah, 641 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 2: catching getting on the drug machine and you know, just 642 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 2: standing in front of that machine and those balls. 643 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 3: You know how that machine. 644 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 2: Those balls are coming out fast and I would catch 645 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 2: two hundred of those balls after every practice consistently. And 646 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 2: what I do now is before I go in front 647 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 2: of a camera, and I might get a month, three weeks, 648 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 2: but I'm making sure that I'm super prepared before I 649 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 2: step in front of the camera, just like game day, right, 650 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 2: And that's the preparation that goes into it. You should 651 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 2: be able to do anything that I have to tell 652 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 2: you to do. You should be able to do it 653 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 2: because you're well prepared. 654 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, what's your dream role. 655 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 2: My dream roles to play superhero. Maybe I can be 656 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 2: the next door. I can be the next door. My 657 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 2: name is store. 658 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 3: Hell yeah, do you want to be a Marvel movie? 659 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 3: I would love to be the awesome that'd be awesome. 660 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 3: Are you? Are you big comic comic kids? I love 661 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 3: comic I've always been in comics. I used to draw 662 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 3: my favorite characters. Cartoon with this cartoon character. Who's your 663 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 3: favorite character? What character? Just cartoon? 664 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: Marvel, Marvel. 665 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to go with and man, he's a 666 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 3: Marvel guy, right, yeah, Man, he's a new character. 667 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 2: I like, Yeah, I like him. I like I like him. Man, 668 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 2: I think I like I'm kind of like one of 669 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 2: those guys. I like the new the new characters, you 670 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 2: know what I mean. I like those new guys because 671 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 2: I mean, like we used to go with some of 672 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 2: the older guys, older characters, but the new new characters 673 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 2: are like like it, I feel like they're going to 674 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 2: be around for for years to come, you know what 675 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 2: I mean. We had we had like a lot of 676 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 2: the characters like Superman, Batman. 677 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: I like, I was always a DC kid, Oh really, 678 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: I loved Batman, Bruce Wayne, and I was also a 679 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: ninja turtle kid. I like turtles. 680 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 3: Nice. Oh, I love. 681 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 2: Anything that has to do with like a superhero. I 682 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 2: want to be a part of that. I think that 683 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 2: would be really cool. 684 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 3: Man. 685 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: Spider Man was always that'd be dope. Man, How was 686 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: it acting with Morgan Freeman? That was That's gonna be legendary. 687 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: That was amazing, man, that was what'd you take from 688 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: his professional like in the profession? Like when because you 689 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 1: guys are working, like you know, you're kind of did 690 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: you did you feel like a rookie in front of 691 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: a vet? 692 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 3: Man? I was so nervous. I mean, like I'm about 693 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 3: to work. I'm about to work. 694 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 2: Like, first of all, I don't I don't even know 695 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 2: how it got the role as a SUP as a 696 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 2: serial killer, right, I'm like, man, how did I get 697 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 2: this role as a serial killer? 698 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 3: Serial killer? 699 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 2: That's a tough job, man, because you have to to 700 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 2: play a serial killer. 701 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 3: Especially someone like that. 702 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 2: I mean, this character from South Africa, he's hard body, 703 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 2: body parts, you know, and he's selling it to. 704 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 3: Corporate America. 705 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 2: There's guys who want to want to feel like they 706 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 2: want to be powerful, right, they go to this guy, 707 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 2: this character named Randoku, so I'm like, man, how am 708 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,320 Speaker 2: I What am I going to do to separate myself 709 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 2: and just you know, to show that I did the work. 710 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 2: That's what they say, and I can do the work right. 711 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 2: The work is what we just talked about being prepared. 712 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 2: And there's a lot of different things that go into 713 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 2: creating this character. I mean, you have the backstory, uh paraphrasing, 714 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 2: emotional attachments that go to these lines, and every line 715 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 2: is different. You know, you want to feel the emotion behind, 716 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 2: put the motion behind those words. The words really mean 717 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 2: nothing without the emotion. So I went I learned the 718 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 2: actual language, you know, as players, that's what we do. 719 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 3: Language Zulu I called. I got on Instagram. 720 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 2: I found this girl who lived in South Africa and 721 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 2: she taught me over what's up? 722 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 3: Wow? 723 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, So Morgan didn't know I learned it because he 724 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 2: didn't learn anything, but I learned. And the scene that 725 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 2: we had do you have an accent? You had an 726 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 2: accent and everything had an accent. I had learned the language. 727 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 3: Everything you weren't work with an accent coach, yep, yep. 728 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 3: I had a dialect coach. 729 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: That's tight, that's putting in the work, work and. 730 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 3: That's football players. That's what we do. We put in 731 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 3: the work. 732 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I mean that's so I felt like, you know, 733 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 2: I had one opportunity to show that I could do 734 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 2: this and and that's what I did. 735 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 3: You know, I put the work in. 736 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: Man just did That's awesome. 737 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 5: And how was Morgan Freeman just being in the same man, 738 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 5: he was awesome. 739 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: Man. 740 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 2: He I had a scene with him where I had 741 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 2: to turn around and walk up to him and I 742 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 2: just kind of dropped the knife like this. 743 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 3: But he looked at me, he said, you know. 744 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 2: What, everything so just he had tried this, look at 745 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 2: the knife and then look at me. 746 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 3: Then let it go. He said, try that. It was. 747 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 3: It was a slight little change. I did it. It was. 748 00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 3: It was a great choice. Gee pro pro It was. 749 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 2: A great choice. I mean, my, you know what, no 750 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 2: choice is. Every choice you make is going to be good. 751 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 2: But there's choices that you that you make and you 752 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 2: be like wow. As a director, someone who's in the 753 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 2: in the film industry, they can look at it and be like, wow, 754 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 2: that was. 755 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,320 Speaker 3: That was a great choice. You know, the choices you 756 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 3: get chance to make choices. 757 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: And all those choices are determine one thing truths or 758 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 1: lies exactly? Can you believe? Is this happening on? This 759 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 1: is this is real? This is fucking real. Nah, I 760 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 1: don't believe it. I not ain't it. Yeah, that's fucking awesome. 761 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: I get I've done a little bit of acting here 762 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,279 Speaker 1: and there, and I work with the coach and it's 763 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 1: a very it's a very very skillful technique, and it's 764 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 1: very hard. You know, you got to be able to 765 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 1: really open up and the lions. You gotta remember the 766 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 1: fucking lines, Lions. You gotta you gotta get to a 767 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,360 Speaker 1: point where you know the Yeah, it's a lot. What's 768 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 1: one of the what's one teammate of years that would 769 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 1: be a You're like, yeah, he could act through the years. 770 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to say, uh a j Francis. When 771 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 2: I was at the Commanders, he's with uh he's doing 772 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 2: wrestling now? 773 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 3: Oh wow. 774 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 2: He's always he had a big personality. I knew he 775 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,720 Speaker 2: could be an actor if he wanted to be. Yeah, 776 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:31,240 Speaker 2: who else? Maybe he's probably one guy that really stands 777 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 2: out Joe Staley. 778 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he could be an actor. Yeah, yeah, he 779 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 3: could be an actor. He was he was always a 780 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,280 Speaker 3: dynamic behind the camera. Wow. 781 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 1: Now let's go back into the sports world. Two thousand 782 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:48,800 Speaker 1: and eight, two thousand and nine Super Bowl champs, Pittsburgh Steelers. 783 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 1: Oh that that was a Santonio Holmes catch to tack. Oh, 784 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:57,799 Speaker 1: I remember that, James Harrison, we had he man run 785 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 1: back and can't stay the lum shout out. NFL MVP 786 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 1: was Peyton Manning? You played with Peyton? 787 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? How was that? You want a Super Bowl with them? 788 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 3: Peyton was awesome? 789 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 1: What was What was the biggest difference between Peyton and 790 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 1: all the other quarterbacks you played with? 791 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 2: The one thing that stood out with Peyton was that 792 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,280 Speaker 2: when I was sitting in that meeting for the first time, 793 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 2: and I mean he just kind of just took over 794 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 2: the took over the room. Normally you have the off 795 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:28,840 Speaker 2: you know, see off offensive coordinator, you know, installed the plays, 796 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 2: go over everything. But Peyton was the one who stood 797 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,760 Speaker 2: up like a general. That was that was pretty phenomenal 798 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,280 Speaker 2: to me. I've never seen anything like it, and I 799 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 2: played with some awesome quarterbacks, but he was just he 800 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:42,879 Speaker 2: was just different, man. 801 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 3: He was he was just different. 802 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,840 Speaker 1: Was he going over like was he given coaching points 803 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 1: to the line, Like, all right, guys on this okie front, 804 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:56,439 Speaker 1: We're gonna slide you guys this way. Hey, receivers, if 805 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 1: these two. 806 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 3: Guys come, you know, I need you to break a 807 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,720 Speaker 3: hot route. Is he breaking down play? He was? Probably? 808 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 2: There was probably a correlation between him and hit him 809 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,439 Speaker 2: and Tom everything Tom did. You probably see the same 810 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,840 Speaker 2: thing in Peyton. If you look at their careers and 811 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,280 Speaker 2: who they how they their longevity, everything that they stood 812 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 2: for and just their their records, everything that they did 813 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 2: from all their accolades, everything, they are identical. 814 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 1: They're just pro quarter they're pro quarterbacks. 815 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 3: It's just different. It's different, man. Everybody's different. Man Like 816 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 3: you will never see another Michael Jordan. It's gonna be 817 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,479 Speaker 3: years before we see that. Yeah. 818 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's gonna be years before we see Tom 819 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:35,360 Speaker 2: Brady and Peyton Manning. 820 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 3: They're just they that's just who they are. Yeah. 821 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 1: The prep and the mentality and yeah, the killer instinct, 822 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 1: the people's skills of leadership. There's a lot that goes 823 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 1: into it. 824 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:55,399 Speaker 3: That's a tough man. They're probably the people I think 825 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 3: people might when they look at it, they look at 826 00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,359 Speaker 3: the team and they look at the game, they might 827 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,400 Speaker 3: they might say, oh, okay, well I'm going to go 828 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 3: to the defense. 829 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe you know, Patrick Willis is the toughest guy 830 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 2: in the field. Maybe it's Von Miller. They're going to 831 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 2: pick those guys, but they don't know. They don't they're 832 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,360 Speaker 2: not out there, they don't see what's going on. But 833 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,279 Speaker 2: those quarterbacks, guys like Tom Brady and Peyton Manning, Yeah, 834 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,879 Speaker 2: those guys, you can talk to them if you want. 835 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 2: They're tough. They're just as tough as the guy that 836 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 2: guy on defense. 837 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:24,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, without a doubt. 838 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,880 Speaker 1: And it's not just the physical toughness, it's the mental 839 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:27,879 Speaker 1: tough mental. 840 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 3: That inside of here. They know exactly what they're about 841 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 3: to do before they even walk out in the field. 842 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 3: I love it. 843 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 2: It's a thing called visualization, and some of the greatest players, 844 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 2: like yourself, we know exactly what that is. We see 845 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 2: everything that we're doing before it even happens. We manifest 846 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,319 Speaker 2: that one hundred and fifty one hundred and seventy yard 847 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 2: game that we're about to go have manifest You know. 848 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,280 Speaker 1: It's so repetitive and it goes into the prep process 849 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 1: for the football player. 850 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 3: At least for me. 851 00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 1: You do the drill that translates to the team, that 852 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 1: team that translates to this, and you do it so 853 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,840 Speaker 1: many times and you study it on film, by the 854 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,280 Speaker 1: time you do in the game is deja vu exactly. 855 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,759 Speaker 3: That's the difference between great, being great and being good. 856 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 3: The good players they don't know how to manifest, they 857 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 3: don't know how to visualize. But the great players they know, 858 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 3: they know the essence of visualization. 859 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,319 Speaker 2: That's what they know. They see it before. That's why 860 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 2: the game is so slow. Man, you ever had a 861 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 2: There's been games you can probably attest to this. We've 862 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 2: all been the great players. I'm not calling I don't 863 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 2: like to talk about myself, but the game is so slow. 864 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 2: It feels like you can run around the whole field 865 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 2: and everybody's still standing still. 866 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 3: Everything, every catch, every play. 867 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 2: I mean I would have games where I well, I 868 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 2: go to the coach, I say, coach, do me the bolly? 869 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 3: Can I stop me? 870 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,360 Speaker 2: And I really mean it from deep down inside, because 871 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 2: the game is so slow. To me, it's like everybody's 872 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 2: moving in slow motion. I'm moving so fast. I can catch, 873 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 2: I can do the biggest games that I've had one 874 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 2: hundred and eighty yards to you know, two touchdowns. 875 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 3: You know, those games are the games that were really 876 00:41:58,160 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 3: slow to me. 877 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,719 Speaker 1: The zone, the zone. I've felt that a few times. 878 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 1: I felt periods of it throughout the game. There's only 879 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 1: been maybe two games, and one was in the Super 880 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,479 Speaker 1: Bowl against the Rams or I was in the zone 881 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 1: where everything you did worked. 882 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 3: And you know that the biggest and every time that 883 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 3: you didn't feel it, Yeah, you just didn't your mind 884 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:20,880 Speaker 3: in top to the space to let you know that's 885 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,239 Speaker 3: that's what was going on. It was there, it was there, 886 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,640 Speaker 3: but you just couldn't. It takes a certain moment or 887 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 3: a certain time for you to really like, I don't 888 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 3: know what it is, Like you said to me, I've 889 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 3: only felt it three two to three times. Yeah, and 890 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 3: my whole career. But you've been there for a whole game. 891 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 3: You can't get there unless you're in that state. You 892 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,320 Speaker 3: can't have those type of performances unless you're in that state. 893 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's something that's letting you know, it's opening 894 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 2: it up your mind to say, this is what's happening 895 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,240 Speaker 2: right now, Yeah, this is what's happening. 896 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,719 Speaker 3: It's an amazing feeling. It is it is. 897 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 1: It's like it's like that scene in Caddy Shack where 898 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,759 Speaker 1: it's raining the guys played his best game. But golf ever, 899 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 1: he ain't letting that thing go. There's light and he's 900 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 1: gonna get struck. It didn't matter. You're having the it's 901 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 1: just going right. He's just going right. 902 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 3: Man. 903 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 1: How about Tom Brady got his He got injured this 904 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 1: season opener, that's when he tours. ACL got a rule 905 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 1: in place for him. A lot of the quarterback injury 906 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 1: or the quarterback rules rough in the passers. Probably because 907 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,320 Speaker 1: of that injury. D Mayo won Defense or Rookie of 908 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,560 Speaker 1: the Year. You watching football at all right now? 909 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit. What do you think you hear? 910 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 3: You hear what Mayo said? What did he say? 911 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 1: He called the team soft? 912 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,279 Speaker 3: That's crazy, yeah, but it was. 913 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 1: I think he was including himself when he said it, 914 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 1: because in that building, they've been preaching for years. You 915 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,759 Speaker 1: gotta to be a tough team. You gotta run the ball, 916 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 1: you gotta stop the rown, you gotta cover kicks. They 917 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,919 Speaker 1: gave up a boultlot of the yards and run game 918 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 1: that game. They couldn't run the ball, and they gave 919 00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,239 Speaker 1: up a punt return for a touchdown. So I think 920 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,759 Speaker 1: he was trying to put a spark on the team. 921 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 2: Okay, you know, well, see that's one thing I had 922 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,080 Speaker 2: to say, say, I applod him for that, and then 923 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 2: if he's putting himself in that category, it's always we 924 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 2: as never you. 925 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 3: Or them or you know, if it's us. 926 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, the way you change your words is huge, man, 927 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:16,960 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. 928 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:18,799 Speaker 3: It's not what you say, it's how you say it. 929 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,640 Speaker 2: So if he was, if it was, if his intentions 930 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,080 Speaker 2: were in that direction, then I would I was, I 931 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:26,879 Speaker 2: would have plod him. 932 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. 933 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 3: I played with the music. Good dude. 934 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,440 Speaker 1: I think he's just you know, they've been preaching a 935 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,880 Speaker 1: lot of shit in there and things are going south 936 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,400 Speaker 1: south right now. They're banged up everywhere. It's tough to lose. 937 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 1: How is it, like you've been on some of those 938 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,279 Speaker 1: teams early in your career with the Niners, how is 939 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,080 Speaker 1: how do you how do you as a player, if 940 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,880 Speaker 1: you're getting your ass bet every week? How do you 941 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:54,440 Speaker 1: keep your mindset? Like? 942 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 3: How do you keep your sense sanity? 943 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:02,359 Speaker 2: I think it's extremely hard, especially when you're losing and 944 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,759 Speaker 2: you can go it can be three four years of 945 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:06,400 Speaker 2: just losing. 946 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, you just get tired. Of it. It's like 947 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 3: you're tired of it. 948 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 2: But that's when you have to understand that everyone feels 949 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:17,319 Speaker 2: that way. How can I be a leader and get 950 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,360 Speaker 2: my message across to these guys in the way that 951 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,840 Speaker 2: they can step their game up or just come together 952 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,319 Speaker 2: and just play as one, because that's when that's when 953 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,480 Speaker 2: things go south, when you're not playing as one. 954 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,759 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people also like you got 955 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 1: to focus on just improving. Like you're saying, whatever you 956 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,959 Speaker 1: did last game, say you did something five things five 957 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,760 Speaker 1: things wrong, let's try to get it to two things wrong, yeah, 958 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,400 Speaker 1: and then maybe get it to nothing wrong on an 959 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 1: e and we all just kind of and then you 960 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,239 Speaker 1: start getting to get a win, a play, right. I 961 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,640 Speaker 1: think that's what it's the hardest thing to do ever, 962 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,960 Speaker 1: is when you're in a rut and you got to 963 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:59,840 Speaker 1: get out. But I just always remember, you know, Belichick saying, guys, 964 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 1: we just after a big loss or you know, maybe 965 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,440 Speaker 1: a two game slide, which we had very few, but 966 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,400 Speaker 1: I remember we always say, we just got to stack 967 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:13,360 Speaker 1: today with tomorrow, yeah, and then tomorrow with the next day, 968 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 1: you know, and then it'll compound. 969 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,879 Speaker 3: If you're improving now you're right. 970 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,040 Speaker 2: And that's how my coach came to me one damn practice. 971 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:23,880 Speaker 2: He said, you can't allow it. You're not allowed to 972 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,880 Speaker 2: have a bad practice. He said, you can You're not 973 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,160 Speaker 2: allowed to have a bad practice. I said, what, Coach, 974 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,399 Speaker 2: I just I mean, I dropped the ball. He's like, look, 975 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,840 Speaker 2: you said you're not allowed to have a bad practice. 976 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 2: I set the bar high, and you, like you said, 977 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:36,480 Speaker 2: you gotta compound, you gotta build on it. 978 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 3: You got to keep stacking. 979 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,200 Speaker 2: And the biggest, the greatest players, what they do is 980 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,440 Speaker 2: that they take those notes, they write down everything. They 981 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 2: write them down, and they keep those notes and they 982 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 2: make a list of everything they need to get better, 983 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:48,040 Speaker 2: and they focus on it. 984 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 3: They meditate on those things. And that's what you have 985 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,040 Speaker 3: to do if you're gonna get better, and if you 986 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,400 Speaker 3: care anything you'll do you'll do that. You know what 987 00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:54,680 Speaker 3: I mean. 988 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 2: You go to me, you remember going to the meetings, 989 00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,440 Speaker 2: you done, had your notebook open. Then coach is going 990 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,279 Speaker 2: to good coaches, they they're gonna address that. 991 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:06,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, without a doubt. And I think I think a 992 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,839 Speaker 1: lot of guys don't know how to get better. They 993 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:13,800 Speaker 1: think that working hard is getting better. Yeah, it's working smart. 994 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,480 Speaker 1: It's finding a coach, Like, what was the coach that 995 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 1: said that to you, Jim Hostler. 996 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:20,000 Speaker 3: Jim Hostler. 997 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:23,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was offensive coordinated at the time of quarterbacks coach, 998 00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:24,280 Speaker 2: offense coordinator. 999 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:25,120 Speaker 3: He's promoted. 1000 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, So, like to improve, you need to find out 1001 00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:32,080 Speaker 1: what you need to improve on. Now, whether that's from 1002 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:36,200 Speaker 1: a teammate, a mentor a coach. Find the things you 1003 00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,080 Speaker 1: work hard, need to work on, You work hard at that, 1004 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,960 Speaker 1: and that's how you improve. It's not just some guys 1005 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,000 Speaker 1: just don't know how to work hard because they think 1006 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,040 Speaker 1: if you're gonna go go into the weight room and 1007 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,239 Speaker 1: lift a bunch and wake up early to go run 1008 00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 1: a little extra, maybe that's not what you're trying. That's 1009 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:52,719 Speaker 1: not what you need to get better. Maybe you need 1010 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,160 Speaker 1: to get in the film room and be able to 1011 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,960 Speaker 1: decipher single high safety from two safeties, you know, and 1012 00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,799 Speaker 1: like they're you got to find out what you need 1013 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:05,239 Speaker 1: to work on, work hard at that, and that's when 1014 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:06,280 Speaker 1: improvement happens. 1015 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,720 Speaker 3: And that's crazy. You know why why that's crazy? 1016 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 2: I say that we're talking about professional athletes, premiere the 1017 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,080 Speaker 2: top high as you can go, and you don't know that. Yeah, 1018 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 2: a lot of guys don't see That's what I'm saying. 1019 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:23,800 Speaker 2: That's why there's separation at that level. People think everybody 1020 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:27,040 Speaker 2: is great. No, everybody's not great. You can separate yourself 1021 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,640 Speaker 2: and that's and the guys who know the difference between 1022 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,560 Speaker 2: getting better and not and not knowing how to be better, 1023 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 2: those are the ones who have the longevity and make 1024 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,120 Speaker 2: it to the Hall of Fame and receive those accolades. 1025 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:45,439 Speaker 1: Now you go from there was talks that USC could 1026 00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,440 Speaker 1: beat some of those Niners teams back in those days, 1027 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,360 Speaker 1: to going to a Super Bowl with San Francisco losing 1028 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:57,240 Speaker 1: so building that organization to then finally going to Denver 1029 00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:01,760 Speaker 1: and winning a Super Bowl. You felt the transition of everything. 1030 00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,280 Speaker 1: What's that feeling like to go from someone that literally 1031 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:10,400 Speaker 1: praying to God week nine, guys, you're setting up golf trips. 1032 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,840 Speaker 1: You know you guys, it's it's over to playing in 1033 00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:15,040 Speaker 1: the last goddamn game the year. 1034 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,400 Speaker 3: Well, it was it was similar. There was some similar Uh. 1035 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 2: That team was very similar to the team that we 1036 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,720 Speaker 2: had when we played in Super Bowl forty seven. Yeah, 1037 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 2: it was a lot of similarities and the same energy 1038 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:27,880 Speaker 2: was there. So I already seen it. I knew what 1039 00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,240 Speaker 2: it looked like, and I knew what it was because 1040 00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,239 Speaker 2: I played on that kind of team before. It was 1041 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:36,000 Speaker 2: just awesome to be able to be trade bittersweet, but 1042 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,680 Speaker 2: to get traded to that to a team and walk 1043 00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:41,319 Speaker 2: into a team and then come back to that same 1044 00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,480 Speaker 2: stadium where I just left and won a super Bowl 1045 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,359 Speaker 2: was unbelievable. 1046 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:46,799 Speaker 3: It was surreal to me, but. 1047 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,080 Speaker 2: It was I saw it and I felt it was 1048 00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:50,719 Speaker 2: the same energy and that that was the kind of 1049 00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,040 Speaker 2: attitude the guys walking. They walk into that facility every 1050 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:58,000 Speaker 2: single day with the winning attitude. And how you know 1051 00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:59,880 Speaker 2: it's a winning attitude because everybody to win that chip 1052 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:04,200 Speaker 2: day about to hit everybody from the markets where to 1053 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,440 Speaker 2: Manuel Sanders, we about to win that hip today. Already, 1054 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:10,279 Speaker 2: guys were excited to go to practice. That's how you 1055 00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,480 Speaker 2: know you're on a championship team. When guy's excited to 1056 00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:13,200 Speaker 2: go to practice. 1057 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,640 Speaker 1: Man, that's championship talking about practice. 1058 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,760 Speaker 2: That sounded like Ivan Iverson. Now, Allen Iverson, I sounded 1059 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,759 Speaker 2: like AI. We're talking about practice. 1060 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:22,760 Speaker 3: Guys were excited to go to practice. 1061 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,520 Speaker 2: But I've been on teams with guys coming in the morning, 1062 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,400 Speaker 2: shoulders hunched over, looking like they were about to have 1063 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 2: the worst day of their life, like they're not excited 1064 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,880 Speaker 2: to be there, be there. And I took that energy 1065 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,200 Speaker 2: with me to that when I went, when I left 1066 00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:39,680 Speaker 2: forty nine ers and I left the Denver Denver Broncos, 1067 00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,480 Speaker 2: I took that energy everybody, everybody that saw me. I 1068 00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,440 Speaker 2: always had a smile on my face, and I was 1069 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 2: seemed as if I was ready to go. 1070 00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 3: And I was. 1071 00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,400 Speaker 2: Every day I went to practice, I was ready. I 1072 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:54,080 Speaker 2: was excited to go to practice. I was excited. Man, 1073 00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,799 Speaker 2: it felt so good to just be in practice. I 1074 00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,160 Speaker 2: never set out of a training camp fourteen years, never 1075 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:01,359 Speaker 2: been set out of training camp. 1076 00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:03,600 Speaker 3: I never missed a practice. 1077 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,960 Speaker 2: Whenever I went, like, I made sure that I was 1078 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,480 Speaker 2: getting those reps because it felt good to run. 1079 00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:11,160 Speaker 3: Let's get out there and just run. 1080 00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,960 Speaker 1: You got y'all cooped up in the building all day 1081 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,440 Speaker 1: with all these damn installs. Walk through this that you're 1082 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,080 Speaker 1: only outside on the field for three hours day exactly. 1083 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 3: We're still a little kids at heart. Man, Run that's right, 1084 00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:27,319 Speaker 3: get on the field. Run that's right. 1085 00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,000 Speaker 7: I'd love to hear. I know that Super Bowl fifty 1086 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,560 Speaker 7: is paint mantings. Last game you're in the locker room 1087 00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,000 Speaker 7: you won. Is there anything can you talk about us? 1088 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:36,560 Speaker 7: About the locker room after the Super Bowl win? 1089 00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:40,640 Speaker 2: After the Super Bowl win, it just went over my head. 1090 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,440 Speaker 2: It was just so much excitement and you know this, 1091 00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:49,040 Speaker 2: that's just man. It's like we worked so hard. This 1092 00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:52,400 Speaker 2: is that moment is what we play for. And to 1093 00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,480 Speaker 2: go through so many ups and downs, the ebb and 1094 00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,880 Speaker 2: flows of those games. I mean, there's there's games that 1095 00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,200 Speaker 2: you expected to win that maybe you didn't win, or 1096 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,560 Speaker 2: you just standing there on the sideline holding your brother's 1097 00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,560 Speaker 2: hand and crossing your fingers because you know how important 1098 00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:07,920 Speaker 2: that game is and you have to win it if 1099 00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,799 Speaker 2: you're gonna make it to the championship. And just thinking 1100 00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:12,560 Speaker 2: about all that, all the sweat you put into it, 1101 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,960 Speaker 2: and you start to think about when you were in 1102 00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,480 Speaker 2: high school in college and I get a chance to 1103 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:21,000 Speaker 2: play in the biggest game there is and do it 1104 00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:22,600 Speaker 2: over and over and over like you had a chance 1105 00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:22,839 Speaker 2: to do. 1106 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,200 Speaker 3: Man, there's no better feeling than that. 1107 00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,799 Speaker 2: Everything that you get, all the accolades and the opportunities 1108 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,560 Speaker 2: you get after football, you deserve. 1109 00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:35,600 Speaker 3: It because you work so hard. Man, You work so 1110 00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,160 Speaker 3: hard to be where you are. 1111 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:42,239 Speaker 2: You deserve everything because it's it's you know what I mean, 1112 00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,240 Speaker 2: it's guys like to kill spikes, to play for years 1113 00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,000 Speaker 2: and never get a chance to win the Super Bowl. 1114 00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:47,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1115 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:52,279 Speaker 1: I result was after the game. I was exhausted. It's 1116 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,840 Speaker 1: like it's the first time you can relax in a 1117 00:52:55,880 --> 00:53:00,000 Speaker 1: long time. Like as soon as you sit at your locker, 1118 00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,880 Speaker 1: there's no thinking about next week, how your body is feeling, 1119 00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:08,359 Speaker 1: there's no more practice for a while. You sit and 1120 00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,920 Speaker 1: you look at all the staff you go give all 1121 00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,440 Speaker 1: they're all excited, like all the people that help you 1122 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,280 Speaker 1: get to where you're at, the training staff, the equipment staff, 1123 00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:18,800 Speaker 1: you know, the guys that are doing your freaking laundry, 1124 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,839 Speaker 1: Like everyone's in there and just everyone's just like, we 1125 00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,000 Speaker 1: can we can we can relax. 1126 00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,319 Speaker 3: We can relax. We could take off for a month 1127 00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,759 Speaker 3: and not do anything. Yeah. No, but it's like no 1128 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,640 Speaker 3: day is pepperoni on it. 1129 00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:36,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was like the ultimate, like oh it 1130 00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,279 Speaker 1: was just then there's like but that's like almost the 1131 00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,480 Speaker 1: best thing in the feeling in the world because when 1132 00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,879 Speaker 1: you don't have to think about anything and you can 1133 00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,920 Speaker 1: just sit down and just say the job is. 1134 00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:51,240 Speaker 3: Done, the job is finished. 1135 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,600 Speaker 1: Job, and you could just sit back and you know, 1136 00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,760 Speaker 1: you can have a drink tonight because you ain't playing 1137 00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:58,399 Speaker 1: next week. 1138 00:53:58,640 --> 00:53:59,200 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 1139 00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:01,719 Speaker 4: In that parade, you. 1140 00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,480 Speaker 3: Know the snowboard, you can do something. Yeah, yeah, that's 1141 00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,080 Speaker 3: that's that's yeah, that's it. 1142 00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,320 Speaker 1: Yeah all right, Jackie set the stage for the Seattle 1143 00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,160 Speaker 1: I was talking about these eight Seahawks, a bit of 1144 00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,400 Speaker 1: a regression year for a team that had won the 1145 00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,439 Speaker 1: division four straight years, only a couple of years coming 1146 00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,400 Speaker 1: off of Super Bowl that when they lost to Pittsburgh. 1147 00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:27,040 Speaker 4: Shawn Alexander released before the season. Team went four and twelve. 1148 00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:29,520 Speaker 4: This was the last season of the Mike Holmegren era. 1149 00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,640 Speaker 1: They're probably they're eating that cap for Shawn Alexander. I 1150 00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:34,480 Speaker 1: bet they probably didn't have any money because he got 1151 00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:35,240 Speaker 1: a big contract. 1152 00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:38,200 Speaker 3: Like remember he was on the mad cover. That was man. 1153 00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:43,600 Speaker 4: He was him, He was a god man. He big fast, 1154 00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,840 Speaker 4: went to the went to Washington, and uh just played 1155 00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:47,359 Speaker 4: one more year. 1156 00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,080 Speaker 3: This this was his last year in the NFL too. 1157 00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:54,480 Speaker 4: An injury plagued season. Hasselbeck heard a tweaked the disc 1158 00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,080 Speaker 4: in his back. Then his knee then had a helmet 1159 00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,279 Speaker 4: to helmet hit. So he was dealing with with all 1160 00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,120 Speaker 4: sorts of things. He was out most of the season. 1161 00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:06,280 Speaker 4: Charlie fry boy, room your boy, baby, Charlie fry Frye, 1162 00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:06,719 Speaker 4: what's up? 1163 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,480 Speaker 1: Hass did Charlie Frye went to Acro and he went 1164 00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,719 Speaker 1: to my rival and he was, like I was. I 1165 00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:17,680 Speaker 1: played quarterback in college and when I changed positions, Charlie 1166 00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,279 Speaker 1: fry took me under his wing and like would throw 1167 00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:21,880 Speaker 1: to me. He was and he was playing for fucking 1168 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:22,799 Speaker 1: the Seahawks this year. 1169 00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:24,000 Speaker 3: Crazy, you know what I mean. 1170 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:28,319 Speaker 1: He would throw to me at Arrivals school, you know, 1171 00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:29,200 Speaker 1: and he was fucking. 1172 00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,280 Speaker 3: He was awesome. Florida. 1173 00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,239 Speaker 4: He's at Florida Atlantic Atlantic, the o C and quarterbacks 1174 00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,480 Speaker 4: go f a baby, let's go bringing the boom down there. 1175 00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:38,319 Speaker 3: I love it. Uh. 1176 00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,120 Speaker 4: This was a team that also had the likes of 1177 00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:42,520 Speaker 4: Seneca Wallace. What a cool dude. 1178 00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:44,480 Speaker 3: He was the same agent. 1179 00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,480 Speaker 1: Dion, Baby, you know what's up? 1180 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,280 Speaker 3: Dirty? It's all you say, what's up dirty? 1181 00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:59,640 Speaker 1: You got Josh criz To saying young and Deon Branch 1182 00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,040 Speaker 1: we say, what was that was that? 1183 00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:02,319 Speaker 3: Dirty? I like mixing it up. 1184 00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,160 Speaker 4: Maybe this isn't bud, this isn't cheats. 1185 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:09,400 Speaker 3: It's hilarious, man, oh goodness. 1186 00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,680 Speaker 4: Oh man, Uh but yeah this uh snap that that 1187 00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:17,040 Speaker 4: division win streaking miss the playoffs this year. Then let's 1188 00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:20,200 Speaker 4: talk about these eight nine ers. Let's go seven and nine. 1189 00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:25,160 Speaker 4: This was Mike Nolan singletary leading them. Nolan was fired 1190 00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:29,040 Speaker 4: after week seven. Unfortunately, Mike Martz was was leading that 1191 00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:29,959 Speaker 4: offense as the OC. 1192 00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:31,799 Speaker 7: Let me cut you off real quick, because we were 1193 00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,760 Speaker 7: talking about this a lot. Mike Nolan wore the suit 1194 00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,480 Speaker 7: on the sideline this year. What's your take on the 1195 00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:37,920 Speaker 7: head coach wearing a suit? 1196 00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,719 Speaker 3: But what are the guys saying in the locker room. 1197 00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:43,040 Speaker 2: I don't Yeah, I know that I wouldn't necessarily think 1198 00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,960 Speaker 2: that a head coach would have to wear a suit 1199 00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,600 Speaker 2: on the sideline. I just don't think it's it's needed 1200 00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,040 Speaker 2: because you want to be comfortable out there. 1201 00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:55,960 Speaker 3: Calling plays, you're moving around. It's just that it's unnecessary. 1202 00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,279 Speaker 3: I'm with you. I like it. I like it. 1203 00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,400 Speaker 5: I like the shirt and tie under sweater. Mike Dicker, 1204 00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:02,520 Speaker 5: Jim Tressel. 1205 00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:06,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was fucking sorry. 1206 00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:07,799 Speaker 5: We're just talking about all week prepping for this. 1207 00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:09,759 Speaker 3: Over here. 1208 00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,759 Speaker 4: Give me some monarchs and a baggy polo, baby, that's 1209 00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:13,640 Speaker 4: all a coach needs. 1210 00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:14,080 Speaker 3: Baby. 1211 00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,680 Speaker 4: Uh, this was still the stick man playing a candlestick. 1212 00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:18,880 Speaker 1: Like I never got to play there, and I wanted to. 1213 00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:20,880 Speaker 1: I grew up going to that stick And. 1214 00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,400 Speaker 3: Was it like playing? It was a shithold. I love. 1215 00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:25,200 Speaker 3: It was like the grass. 1216 00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,960 Speaker 1: The grass wasn't great. I heard it was. Danny Amondola 1217 00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,000 Speaker 1: always said the grass was great. No, I thought the 1218 00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:31,920 Speaker 1: grass was awful. 1219 00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:35,520 Speaker 3: Was it? Yeah, the grass was awful. 1220 00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:37,200 Speaker 7: Danny is light on his feet. You can see on 1221 00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:38,760 Speaker 7: dancing stirs every Wednesday. 1222 00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,400 Speaker 1: I know Danny is dancing light on his feet in 1223 00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:46,280 Speaker 1: that Uh that there's But it's nothing like driving into candlestick. 1224 00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,440 Speaker 1: That's the one thing. I grew up a Niners fan 1225 00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:51,840 Speaker 1: when they went to Santa Clara. You're not in the city, 1226 00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:55,480 Speaker 1: like when you're going up in the candlestick. The FOG's 1227 00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,600 Speaker 1: right there, you're right on the water. You got Hunter's 1228 00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,960 Speaker 1: Point right there. I mean, it's just like you're coming 1229 00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,440 Speaker 1: into our house. Like I feel like you lost that 1230 00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:07,000 Speaker 1: when you're driving into the freaking the driving lot of 1231 00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:08,120 Speaker 1: Great America Park. 1232 00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not the same. It's not the same. It's 1233 00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:11,680 Speaker 3: not the same. 1234 00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,439 Speaker 1: And the weather was always kind of a thing. 1235 00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:15,560 Speaker 3: It's totally different. 1236 00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:19,240 Speaker 1: It's like hot, yeah, hot in Santa Clara. 1237 00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:21,920 Speaker 3: I'm'll tell you the truth. I'd rather stay in Candlestick. 1238 00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,320 Speaker 3: The truth. Just the tradition, man, you take away the 1239 00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,040 Speaker 3: tradition with Jerry Rice, Joe, Montana and all those guys, 1240 00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,720 Speaker 3: just the history, those Super Bowl wins that they stacked up. 1241 00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,600 Speaker 2: It all happened from there. That was the foundation, that 1242 00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,560 Speaker 2: was their home. So it was as I'm coming in, 1243 00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:38,640 Speaker 2: I'm getting drafted, I'm like, I'm looking around. 1244 00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:43,240 Speaker 3: Like, Wow, this is crazy, this is weird. It all happened. Wow, 1245 00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,760 Speaker 3: it's amazing. But now I can't do the same. I 1246 00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:47,320 Speaker 3: can't really. 1247 00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,080 Speaker 2: I don't really have that feeling when I go into 1248 00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,479 Speaker 2: when I walk into leave stadium. 1249 00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:51,959 Speaker 3: Damn. 1250 00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:54,840 Speaker 7: How much were the Forignite, the vets, like Montana, Steve 1251 00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:56,920 Speaker 7: Young around the organization when you were there. 1252 00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,960 Speaker 2: They didn't come around much. I didn't see him much. Yeah, 1253 00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,240 Speaker 2: I didn't see him much. I think a lot of 1254 00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:05,560 Speaker 2: times with these organizations, with the older guys, I think 1255 00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:09,640 Speaker 2: sometimes they can feel underappreciated because they're not getting paid. 1256 00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:09,840 Speaker 3: You know. 1257 00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:11,720 Speaker 2: Most of the time these organizations, they want to give 1258 00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,280 Speaker 2: you three to five thousand dollars to come show up 1259 00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,960 Speaker 2: and a lot of guys they have a lot of 1260 00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:20,160 Speaker 2: stuff going on, so they rather allocate their time to 1261 00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:21,280 Speaker 2: the kids and their. 1262 00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:22,919 Speaker 3: Business, you know what I mean. 1263 00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:26,040 Speaker 2: So it has to make sense, y'a setting on meetings, 1264 00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:28,640 Speaker 2: know whether it's with the commanders or forty nine ers, 1265 00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:30,880 Speaker 2: and you know, they bring in the alumnis and. 1266 00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:32,600 Speaker 3: They ask them, they say, hey, guys, what do we 1267 00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:33,520 Speaker 3: need to do differently? 1268 00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:37,480 Speaker 2: And the legends they get a chance to it's what 1269 00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:40,720 Speaker 2: they call them down legends. They get a chance to 1270 00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:44,680 Speaker 2: force their opinion. And that's what that's usually the case. 1271 00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,440 Speaker 2: If you don't see guys. Now now that I know that, 1272 00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:48,760 Speaker 2: I can look back and I'll be like, Okay, I 1273 00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:50,960 Speaker 2: see why Joe and Jerry wasn't there. 1274 00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:53,200 Speaker 3: It didn't makes sense. It didn't make sense for them. 1275 00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:54,560 Speaker 5: Probably, Yeah, I get that. 1276 00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:57,760 Speaker 1: What were the what was this early stage year career 1277 00:59:57,840 --> 00:59:58,840 Speaker 1: niners teams like. 1278 01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:05,760 Speaker 3: Stressful? A lot of frustration. 1279 01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:08,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, like we talked about when you're not winning and 1280 01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:11,080 Speaker 2: you know, being a young guy, you have to learn 1281 01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:14,840 Speaker 2: how to be a leader and and uh but it 1282 01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,840 Speaker 2: was you know, you find some you just you just 1283 01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,960 Speaker 2: it's a learning curve for sure. Definitely, definitely a lot 1284 01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:24,400 Speaker 2: of learning. Yeah, but when you but it's good that 1285 01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,800 Speaker 2: you go through this when you when you lose, you 1286 01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:30,200 Speaker 2: know how grad it feels when you win. Yeah, And 1287 01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:32,640 Speaker 2: that can be in college or high school whatever. I mean, 1288 01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:34,800 Speaker 2: you don't have to. I mean, you guys had You've 1289 01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:36,480 Speaker 2: had moments. Even though you guys want a lot, you 1290 01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:39,360 Speaker 2: still have moments where you where it didn't work out 1291 01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:41,959 Speaker 2: for you, a lot of them. You see what I'm saying. 1292 01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:45,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you appreciate that it only worked out three times? Yeah, exactly, 1293 01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,640 Speaker 1: So you appreciate that, yeah, without a doubt. And that's 1294 01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:52,280 Speaker 1: I would say that Detroit Lions are in an example 1295 01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:56,240 Speaker 1: of that right now with they appreciate their winning because 1296 01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:59,520 Speaker 1: they still remember their losing. You know, they're a tough 1297 01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:01,840 Speaker 1: football team that don't give up. You know. It's just 1298 01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:05,880 Speaker 1: it's it kind of reminds me of that. How is 1299 01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:09,160 Speaker 1: Alex Smith? Tell you something that no one knows about 1300 01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:09,840 Speaker 1: Alex Smith. 1301 01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:15,160 Speaker 3: Alex Smith was man. He was just such. 1302 01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:25,200 Speaker 2: An amazing human being, very just loving, great teammate, beautiful family, 1303 01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,840 Speaker 2: comes from a great family. I think they're from San Diego, 1304 01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:33,480 Speaker 2: I believe. But he knew everything. He knew everything everyone 1305 01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:36,040 Speaker 2: had like it was when I first came in into 1306 01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:39,240 Speaker 2: the league. I didn't know what I had on my brouse. 1307 01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:43,880 Speaker 2: I would just look up. He just telled me right 1308 01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:46,480 Speaker 2: there to tell me. Yeah, it's just yeah, it was 1309 01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:49,080 Speaker 2: you know, it's tough. I mean, you go from college 1310 01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:53,720 Speaker 2: and coming in learning an offense like north Turner's playbook 1311 01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:58,920 Speaker 2: had he had an interesting playbook, man, but the way 1312 01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:02,360 Speaker 2: he called plays, uh, it's just yeah. 1313 01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:03,920 Speaker 3: But Alex was great. He was always there for me. 1314 01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:05,560 Speaker 3: He was always there. Yeah. 1315 01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,600 Speaker 1: He seems like he'd be a really good teammate, great teammate, 1316 01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:10,200 Speaker 1: great leader, great teammate. 1317 01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:12,880 Speaker 3: And he was tough man. Yeah, he was. Can you 1318 01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:14,360 Speaker 3: imagine going through what he went through. 1319 01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:18,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, he got baptized in that league for a long time. 1320 01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:22,200 Speaker 2: Yes, even even when he got it when he was 1321 01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:23,600 Speaker 2: he suffered from a concussion. 1322 01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:26,680 Speaker 3: Collins Kapernick steps in. 1323 01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:33,280 Speaker 2: Alex has to stand there and watch what he started right, 1324 01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:35,720 Speaker 2: even on the on the sidelines of the Super Bowl, 1325 01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:37,920 Speaker 2: That's that's tough man. 1326 01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:40,120 Speaker 3: Handled it right, though, handle he handled like a pro. 1327 01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:42,040 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. He's from the outside end. 1328 01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:45,560 Speaker 1: Looking from the outside, he looked like he handled it 1329 01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:46,040 Speaker 1: like a pro. 1330 01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:47,520 Speaker 3: And look what he did when he left us and 1331 01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:48,320 Speaker 3: went to Kansas City. 1332 01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:52,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, he had a really good, really good career. He's 1333 01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:56,280 Speaker 1: the nice guy. Who are the team assholes? Like from 1334 01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,800 Speaker 1: this team, like who was the ass like the necessity 1335 01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:02,280 Speaker 1: asss kind of in the asshole that kind of keeps 1336 01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:06,080 Speaker 1: everyone accountable, that works really hard, the richie incognito kind of. 1337 01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:11,560 Speaker 3: A typeole everybody kept everybody in lying. Brian Johnson, Uh no, 1338 01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:16,440 Speaker 3: I'm about to say. Sean Hill was one of those guys. 1339 01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:19,160 Speaker 3: Sean Hill he would always you know, he would always 1340 01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:19,480 Speaker 3: get on. 1341 01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:21,120 Speaker 2: Guys if he needs to. He's an Maryland guy too, 1342 01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:25,600 Speaker 2: Maryland got Yeah, he was. He was awesome. Isaac Bruce 1343 01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:28,000 Speaker 2: was really quiet. He didn't say much. 1344 01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:30,959 Speaker 3: He's probably the old Vet. Then the old Vet. 1345 01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:36,000 Speaker 2: He was old Vet to kill spikes with voices, opinions everything. 1346 01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:40,440 Speaker 3: Jeff Aubrey coach now Coachet. 1347 01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:47,040 Speaker 2: He was one of those guys who would always voice 1348 01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:50,320 Speaker 2: his opinion. I was Obrick Albrick was cool man. I 1349 01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:53,960 Speaker 2: had a great relationship with Albrick. He was he was, 1350 01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:56,520 Speaker 2: he was cool. He was really he was a great 1351 01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:58,560 Speaker 2: like you know, a young guy coming in. He he 1352 01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:01,000 Speaker 2: takes you under his wing and kind I talked to you, 1353 01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:03,640 Speaker 2: we have we have great conversations. 1354 01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:05,800 Speaker 3: But he was He's one of the nicest guys on 1355 01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:06,400 Speaker 3: the team. 1356 01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:09,360 Speaker 1: Now, could you see that he he had head coaching 1357 01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:10,160 Speaker 1: material in him. 1358 01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:14,600 Speaker 2: Never never Why, I don't know, I just didn't. I 1359 01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:17,280 Speaker 2: could never see him as a head coach. Yeah, I 1360 01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:21,120 Speaker 2: mean he looked pretty old when I came in. Yeah, 1361 01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:22,600 Speaker 2: the Mohawk back then, it looked like he was in 1362 01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:23,439 Speaker 2: year twenty five. 1363 01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:27,479 Speaker 3: Man, but he's really only thirty six, right, thirty five 1364 01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:32,040 Speaker 3: thirty six. But uh, but I never saw him being 1365 01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:34,720 Speaker 3: a head coach. No, yeah, that's crazy. Now. 1366 01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:38,560 Speaker 1: One of my favorite football players. I loved Frank Orr. 1367 01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:42,600 Speaker 1: He was probably just an ultimate professional, wasn't he. 1368 01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:46,200 Speaker 3: Come on that long? Oh, come on, don't come on. 1369 01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:53,240 Speaker 3: Frank was great, man. He's to get on me all 1370 01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:54,840 Speaker 3: the time. He's he didn't get it. 1371 01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:57,480 Speaker 2: He wouldn't say much to the team only if he 1372 01:04:57,560 --> 01:04:59,680 Speaker 2: had to, but he would get on me all the time. 1373 01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:05,560 Speaker 3: Shout. 1374 01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:09,080 Speaker 10: Oh, yeah, he was. 1375 01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:10,400 Speaker 3: That's my brother, man. 1376 01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:13,240 Speaker 2: He's he's like one of the best human beings you 1377 01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:15,600 Speaker 2: could ever would ever meet. Man like he was just 1378 01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:19,800 Speaker 2: he was phenomenal. Frank, Yeah, ultimate teammate. 1379 01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:20,920 Speaker 3: I loved. 1380 01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:23,280 Speaker 1: I've met him a few times. I asked him to 1381 01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:26,440 Speaker 1: sign a jersey for me once. He's said, he's a 1382 01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:29,360 Speaker 1: fucking he's a bullying ball and he did it for 1383 01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:30,720 Speaker 1: like eighteen years. 1384 01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:35,400 Speaker 4: What do you have a sixteen seventeen year career San Francisco, Indie, Miami, Buffalo, 1385 01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:37,680 Speaker 4: New York. I mean he was like thirty five and 1386 01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:41,360 Speaker 4: getting like a thousand yards incredible. Yeah, his sons, sons, 1387 01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:43,200 Speaker 4: I know his son's others right now. 1388 01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:45,360 Speaker 2: He could have been Lebron one of the best running 1389 01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:49,280 Speaker 2: backs of all time, legend bro without a doubt. 1390 01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:51,680 Speaker 1: We got to talk about the catch three. What's that 1391 01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:55,600 Speaker 1: was like an unbelievable drive. He had like three huge 1392 01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:59,000 Speaker 1: catches on that drive that was eleven. 1393 01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:01,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was That was a game to remember. That 1394 01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:02,280 Speaker 3: was a tough game, man. 1395 01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:06,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jimmy Graham scoring and us coming back having to 1396 01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:09,320 Speaker 2: put up some points and that drive we had it 1397 01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:11,040 Speaker 2: was it was It was awesome. 1398 01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:14,200 Speaker 3: I remember, I remember everybody played that game. They brought it. 1399 01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:19,320 Speaker 2: I mean, you're talking about a team that believed. That 1400 01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:24,640 Speaker 2: team believed, man, because I look back now and just 1401 01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:27,560 Speaker 2: I just can't believe we pulled that game off. 1402 01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:33,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're talking about the twenty eleven Saints game, Divisional. 1403 01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:35,360 Speaker 4: Round twenty eleven division run NFC. 1404 01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:40,040 Speaker 1: Yeah that Vernon had a middle reed split, the safety 1405 01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:43,040 Speaker 1: score a touchdown with time running out nine seconds left, 1406 01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:44,400 Speaker 1: nine seconds left. 1407 01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:45,600 Speaker 3: Very similar. 1408 01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:48,440 Speaker 1: They called the catch threes is the catch to the 1409 01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:51,480 Speaker 1: t O CATCHO, and the catch one is Dwight Clark 1410 01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:57,640 Speaker 1: right man, San Francisco legend. That's got to be sick 1411 01:06:57,720 --> 01:06:58,440 Speaker 1: to have a catch. 1412 01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:01,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's cool. You have a catch. We gotta catch, 1413 01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:03,600 Speaker 3: we gotta catch. 1414 01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:07,160 Speaker 5: I catch on this team too? 1415 01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:11,240 Speaker 3: How was Isaac very quiet? Quiet? Came to work? 1416 01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:13,160 Speaker 1: Man, he was very was that because he was in 1417 01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:14,480 Speaker 1: a division rival? 1418 01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:16,360 Speaker 3: I don't know. He was just he didn't say much. 1419 01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:18,800 Speaker 3: I never heard him say anything. Yeah, he never even 1420 01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:26,720 Speaker 3: I never heard him say hi, you say so? That's 1421 01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:29,880 Speaker 3: just I love that. Yeah, he did, didn't say much. 1422 01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:30,840 Speaker 3: He just came to work. 1423 01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:34,280 Speaker 1: Who is the who is the character on this team? 1424 01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:35,880 Speaker 3: Character? Yeah? 1425 01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:38,720 Speaker 1: Who's the funny guy that was making him scene? 1426 01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:39,520 Speaker 3: Right here? Yeah? 1427 01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:41,920 Speaker 2: Man, I'm gonna have to go with the guy Thomas 1428 01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:42,680 Speaker 2: Clayton right there? 1429 01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:45,800 Speaker 3: Man running back? Why what would he do? That was funny? 1430 01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:50,560 Speaker 2: This dude was unbelievable man with the funniest thing he did. 1431 01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:51,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, you really want to know? 1432 01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:56,280 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, this dude goes to the head coach's 1433 01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:57,600 Speaker 2: house and picks up his daughter. 1434 01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:01,720 Speaker 3: Oh, for a date? I said, did you go in so? 1435 01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:02,080 Speaker 9: Yeah? 1436 01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:04,800 Speaker 3: Yes, I said, Hey coach. He looked at me, say 1437 01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:09,960 Speaker 3: I said what I said, dude, You mean to tell 1438 01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:11,720 Speaker 3: me you want to take his dog on a date? 1439 01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:13,400 Speaker 3: If you went to the house to pick her up? 1440 01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:15,320 Speaker 3: You know what you just did. 1441 01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:18,040 Speaker 1: Come on, man, yeah, if he did it right, he 1442 01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:21,320 Speaker 1: set himself up for a little insurance, he cut. 1443 01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:27,559 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, what are we doing? Bro? Bro? What 1444 01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:28,720 Speaker 3: are you doing? Bro? 1445 01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:31,720 Speaker 2: This is the craziest, funniest guy I ever met in 1446 01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:32,400 Speaker 2: my life. 1447 01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:35,120 Speaker 3: Oh, I love that move, bro. He wore the same 1448 01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:36,439 Speaker 3: outfit every time. 1449 01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:38,599 Speaker 4: Full cartoon character Mude Full cartoon. 1450 01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:39,639 Speaker 3: I love that. 1451 01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:42,599 Speaker 2: Cowboy boots jeans with a chain aroun on the side 1452 01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:43,280 Speaker 2: of his pocket. 1453 01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:45,840 Speaker 3: Wo, that's a lot to cut off. Button up. The 1454 01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:49,880 Speaker 3: show is on. Can you imagine this guy? This character 1455 01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:52,360 Speaker 3: in the movie kind of car like a truck. 1456 01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:56,759 Speaker 2: Oh, I think he had like a dosh charger hearer 1457 01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:58,320 Speaker 2: something red with a drop top. 1458 01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:00,679 Speaker 3: I can't remember, bro. 1459 01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:03,880 Speaker 4: I get wait while we're on the where we're talking 1460 01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:06,960 Speaker 4: to these guys. Vernon did uh I was looking at 1461 01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:10,679 Speaker 4: Takeo Spikes. Takio spikes. His neck has its own category 1462 01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:13,679 Speaker 4: in Wikipedia. His neck, his neck, my hamstring. It says 1463 01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:16,439 Speaker 4: it measures twenty one inches around. It's insane. 1464 01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:19,639 Speaker 3: Twenty one inch neck, twenty one What a beast? Remember 1465 01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:23,320 Speaker 3: that guy looks like a football player. That guy, he 1466 01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:26,479 Speaker 3: looks like a football player. It looks like a football player. 1467 01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:27,040 Speaker 3: Neck talk. 1468 01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:29,920 Speaker 2: If you want to pick somebody out of the crowd, 1469 01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:31,120 Speaker 2: it looks like a football player. 1470 01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:34,200 Speaker 3: Come on up here, Takio Spikes. You fit the description. 1471 01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:37,479 Speaker 4: What a beast, ma'am? Oh my gosh, all right, it's 1472 01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:40,160 Speaker 4: the game lead up. This was This was Mike Singletary's 1473 01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:42,320 Speaker 4: first game as a head coach. Mike Nolan had just 1474 01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:46,600 Speaker 4: gotten fired after the Giants lost the week before, and 1475 01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:50,320 Speaker 4: this was a backup quarterback showdown JT. O. Sullivan for 1476 01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:53,800 Speaker 4: Seneca Wallace and a rematch of the week two game 1477 01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:56,080 Speaker 4: where the forty nine ers won thirty three thirty and 1478 01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:57,599 Speaker 4: ot uh. 1479 01:09:57,640 --> 01:09:59,280 Speaker 3: Seattle had an early bye week this year. 1480 01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:01,920 Speaker 4: Week four, the Niners were getting ready to go on 1481 01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:05,280 Speaker 4: There's so this was one in five Seattle first two 1482 01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:08,120 Speaker 4: and five San Francisco two teams need to win. 1483 01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:13,320 Speaker 1: Baby, what's the mindset going into the game with a 1484 01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:16,120 Speaker 1: new coaching style? Like, what change? I've never been involved 1485 01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:19,120 Speaker 1: in that. What changes? Is there anything that damn changes? 1486 01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:21,719 Speaker 1: Because you guys have the same plays, probably the same coaching. 1487 01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:27,160 Speaker 1: What goes into a coaching change? How are the players 1488 01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:28,080 Speaker 1: during this thing? 1489 01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:29,880 Speaker 3: Well, depends on who the coach is. 1490 01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:32,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, you either pick your head up or put your 1491 01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:37,200 Speaker 2: head down, depends on who it is. Oh my gosh, 1492 01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:41,240 Speaker 2: it's it's a coaching changes. Like you feel you can 1493 01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:44,800 Speaker 2: feel the energy. It's like it's almost if it's it's 1494 01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:49,200 Speaker 2: like there's a there's a there's a love and respect 1495 01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:51,280 Speaker 2: that you have for the coaches leaving you kind of 1496 01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:54,880 Speaker 2: feel bad on Yeah, it's like, man, you created, you 1497 01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:57,639 Speaker 2: cultivate a relationship with the coach, and now that another 1498 01:10:57,680 --> 01:11:00,600 Speaker 2: coach has to come in, it's like, we don't know 1499 01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:03,479 Speaker 2: what's gonna happen with this coach just stepping in, because 1500 01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:04,160 Speaker 2: if he wasn't. 1501 01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:05,639 Speaker 3: A head coach, how can it be a head coach? Now? 1502 01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:06,920 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 1503 01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:09,599 Speaker 2: We don't know what to expect that, we don't know 1504 01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:12,760 Speaker 2: what we're gonna get But we do know that if 1505 01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:15,200 Speaker 2: you're a football player and you someone who believes in 1506 01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:17,840 Speaker 2: this team and believes that we can win, you're going 1507 01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:20,439 Speaker 2: to rally behind this coach and you're gonna say, Okay, 1508 01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:22,519 Speaker 2: let's let's let's let's do this. 1509 01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:24,200 Speaker 3: Let's do it for this coach. We're gonna we're gonna 1510 01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:27,200 Speaker 3: get him, get him going. You know what I mean? 1511 01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:31,320 Speaker 1: Now, Singletary, first team meeting. 1512 01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:34,920 Speaker 3: What's that like? Is he just fucking it? I could? 1513 01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:37,599 Speaker 1: I can only imagine his tense. His eyeballs are fucking 1514 01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:38,880 Speaker 1: coming out of his eyes. 1515 01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:42,840 Speaker 3: No, he had everyone with respected coach Singletary. He had 1516 01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:45,040 Speaker 3: a lot. It was a lot of respect throughout that 1517 01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:47,599 Speaker 3: locker room for coach. But he's an intense guy. 1518 01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:50,479 Speaker 2: He's an intense guy. We we knew. We didn't know 1519 01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:52,280 Speaker 2: exactly what we're going to get out of him, but 1520 01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:55,960 Speaker 2: we knew he was. He was no nonsense. You had 1521 01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:58,200 Speaker 2: the every time you touch the field, you better be jogging, 1522 01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:05,160 Speaker 2: no walking. I mean, love it, love your teammates, selfless, everything, 1523 01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:08,559 Speaker 2: everything that you had to that he wanted out of. 1524 01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:10,320 Speaker 3: You had to be that on this team if you 1525 01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:10,720 Speaker 3: were going to. 1526 01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:14,400 Speaker 1: Stay now what's your mindset going into this this week 1527 01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:20,679 Speaker 1: of Seattle. Do you remember anything specific? I mean, coach 1528 01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:26,120 Speaker 1: just gets fired. Yeah, as one in five, first game 1529 01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:31,559 Speaker 1: with coach single Terry playing division rival. Also dogsho right now, 1530 01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:35,280 Speaker 1: Like what's going in to get you hyped up? Or like, 1531 01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:36,880 Speaker 1: do you know it's already going to be a bad 1532 01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:39,400 Speaker 1: Sunday going into this game. 1533 01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:41,519 Speaker 3: No, I was thinking it was going to be a 1534 01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:42,040 Speaker 3: great Sunday. 1535 01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:45,920 Speaker 2: I'm about to play with Sean Hill Maryland, my Maryland guy, 1536 01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:49,760 Speaker 2: and I felt like, you know, especially Seann and I 1537 01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:52,000 Speaker 2: we had a connection because we played on the same 1538 01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:55,320 Speaker 2: we're from the same school, and I know about him. 1539 01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:58,479 Speaker 2: I knew, I knew, I knew who he was. You know, 1540 01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:01,599 Speaker 2: he was a legend at Maryland. But but going into 1541 01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:03,920 Speaker 2: the game, I'm thinking we're going to win the game. Yeah, 1542 01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,639 Speaker 2: of course, I didn't think it wasna go to way 1543 01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:11,599 Speaker 2: it did. But took a hold three sixty on me. Yeah, 1544 01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:13,800 Speaker 2: to go three sixty, And a lot of it came 1545 01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:16,519 Speaker 2: from it. It was just frustration with me and not winning, 1546 01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:19,240 Speaker 2: losing the coach. I'm like, man, this this team, this 1547 01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:22,439 Speaker 2: season is it's not going the way we expected to go. 1548 01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:25,280 Speaker 2: We're still losing. I mean, we had to lose the 1549 01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:28,880 Speaker 2: season first year, second year. 1550 01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:30,479 Speaker 3: It's tough. 1551 01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:35,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, Jack, Yeah, Just to just highlight this game, a 1552 01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:38,080 Speaker 4: little bit bit of a slow start. Seattle gets up 1553 01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:42,760 Speaker 4: six nothing with two field goals. Then Seneca Wallace leads 1554 01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:45,719 Speaker 4: a long touchdown drive to get them up thirteen to nothing. 1555 01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:48,920 Speaker 4: Uh san Fran attacks on a field goal thirteen to three, 1556 01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:52,400 Speaker 4: which takes us to one of the the ten poll 1557 01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:54,960 Speaker 4: moments of this game, if you will. Forty four seconds 1558 01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:58,000 Speaker 4: left in the half, the Niners are driving to cut 1559 01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:01,639 Speaker 4: it to thirteen to ten. Sullivan throws a pick six, 1560 01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:04,960 Speaker 4: Josh Wilson returns at seventy five yards for a tuddy 1561 01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:08,400 Speaker 4: Vernon chases him down the length of the field, almost 1562 01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:10,240 Speaker 4: makes the tackle he gets. 1563 01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:10,320 Speaker 3: In the end. 1564 01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:12,080 Speaker 4: So they go up twenty to three at the half. 1565 01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:13,800 Speaker 4: And that was kind of the straw that broke the 1566 01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:16,640 Speaker 4: camel's back, if you will, for Mike Singletary talking to 1567 01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:19,680 Speaker 4: Mike Martz on the sideline and they pull him and 1568 01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:21,120 Speaker 4: go with Sean Hill in the second half. 1569 01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:27,320 Speaker 3: So halftime, what's the halftime like? Do you remember that? 1570 01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:32,640 Speaker 3: Do you remember this? Like that halftime? Yeah? Yeah, I 1571 01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:33,720 Speaker 3: remember pieces of it. 1572 01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:40,360 Speaker 2: Halftime was coach was just he was just looking at 1573 01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:42,800 Speaker 2: us with his eyes like you said, big eyes wide open, 1574 01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:48,000 Speaker 2: just like gosh, we gotta you know, He's like, we gotta. 1575 01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:49,840 Speaker 8: Stay in this thing. If we're going to win this, 1576 01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:52,559 Speaker 8: we need to play. We need to play harder. You 1577 01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:53,760 Speaker 8: we gotta do this. 1578 01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:56,479 Speaker 3: You know. He's just like, you know, just taking charge. 1579 01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:56,920 Speaker 3: It was good. 1580 01:14:57,600 --> 01:14:58,760 Speaker 4: That is a really good singletary. 1581 01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:00,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was just trying to win. 1582 01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:03,400 Speaker 2: I wanted to step in this thing and improve something 1583 01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:04,160 Speaker 2: to the organization. 1584 01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:05,559 Speaker 3: You guys, come. 1585 01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:08,679 Speaker 4: Out of halftime, yep, that's Sean Hill in there. Now, 1586 01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:09,720 Speaker 4: Sean Hill's in. 1587 01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:14,439 Speaker 1: And take us through the unsportsmanlike conduct penalty, because like, 1588 01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:18,439 Speaker 1: this whole thing kind of baffles me, because if you 1589 01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:23,479 Speaker 1: can get on your star for not putting the team first, 1590 01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:28,720 Speaker 1: for the you know, the whole uh penalty, he has 1591 01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:30,880 Speaker 1: to be doing a lot more than that for you 1592 01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:33,640 Speaker 1: to get on him like that. Like, because he just 1593 01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:36,960 Speaker 1: ran ninety six yards and almost chased the guy down, 1594 01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:40,360 Speaker 1: so he's showing you he's not quitting. So take us 1595 01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:45,280 Speaker 1: through this this unsportsman like conduct penalty and this whole thing. 1596 01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:47,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. 1597 01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:51,519 Speaker 2: It was it wasn't. I feel like at the moment, 1598 01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:56,080 Speaker 2: just I'd say I was selfish and that selfless because 1599 01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:56,400 Speaker 2: I was. 1600 01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:56,920 Speaker 3: I was young. 1601 01:15:57,479 --> 01:15:59,360 Speaker 2: In my young mind, I'm thinking like, what is this guy? 1602 01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:00,479 Speaker 2: What's this guy doing? 1603 01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:00,639 Speaker 3: Who? 1604 01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:03,760 Speaker 2: If I'm talking to myself, who's this guy think he is? 1605 01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:06,040 Speaker 2: They brought me here to make plays and help this 1606 01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:09,280 Speaker 2: team win. I'm Vernon Davis. Why are you sending me 1607 01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:11,080 Speaker 2: to the locker room. I can help this team win. 1608 01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:13,160 Speaker 2: I don't need to go to the locker room. Who 1609 01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:14,880 Speaker 2: do you think you are? That's what I'm saying in 1610 01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:17,280 Speaker 2: my mind as a young young guy coming into the league. 1611 01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:20,960 Speaker 2: But now as I look back, that's the situation. Coach 1612 01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:23,840 Speaker 2: did me as solid. He did me a favor. Him 1613 01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:28,920 Speaker 2: being there was a blessing in disguise because I needed that. 1614 01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:33,360 Speaker 2: I needed to have that moment of being benched and 1615 01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:35,519 Speaker 2: going to the locker room. 1616 01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:38,479 Speaker 3: I made a bone here, mistake. I got a penalty. 1617 01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:40,040 Speaker 3: I hit a guy. I believe I hit the hit. 1618 01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:42,000 Speaker 2: I forgot forget who it was, but I hit him 1619 01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:44,960 Speaker 2: under on his chin strop and Coach benched me. That 1620 01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:48,000 Speaker 2: was just I think Coach knew me. He was He's been, 1621 01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:50,120 Speaker 2: he was there since I got drafted, so he knew 1622 01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:52,400 Speaker 2: how I was. He watched me. He was just tired 1623 01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:56,840 Speaker 2: of my foolishness, you know what I mean, wasting time 1624 01:16:57,160 --> 01:16:58,040 Speaker 2: getting penalized. 1625 01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:00,280 Speaker 3: You're young, You're still young in the head. Yeah. 1626 01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:01,679 Speaker 2: So I go to the locker room. I do exactly 1627 01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:02,680 Speaker 2: what he tell me to do. I go to the 1628 01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:05,679 Speaker 2: locker room, didn't say anything. He come to me, He said, 1629 01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:09,559 Speaker 2: come see me tomorrow, and I go see him after 1630 01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:12,320 Speaker 2: the game. I mean, I didn't I didn't know he 1631 01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:14,480 Speaker 2: was gonna do what he did on on television. 1632 01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:17,120 Speaker 3: I was at home laying in the bed with my 1633 01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:24,920 Speaker 3: kids mom watching TV. This pops up and I'm like, wow, Wow, 1634 01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:26,400 Speaker 3: what do you feel that time? 1635 01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:29,599 Speaker 2: I feel like I feel like he threw me under 1636 01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:33,200 Speaker 2: the bus. At the moment, I'm like, wow, why would 1637 01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:35,920 Speaker 2: he do this? Why would he do that? I was like, 1638 01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:39,280 Speaker 2: this guy is crazy. So I knew right away I 1639 01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:42,760 Speaker 2: was gonna walk into that facility tomorrow and it was 1640 01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:46,000 Speaker 2: gonna be I didn't know what was going to happen. 1641 01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:47,679 Speaker 3: Like you didn't know what happened. 1642 01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:50,200 Speaker 2: I was furious, but I was also I was furious, 1643 01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:53,840 Speaker 2: but I was also I was definitely afraid of coach 1644 01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:56,639 Speaker 2: Mike Singatary, because I knew he wasn't no pushover. 1645 01:17:57,360 --> 01:18:01,439 Speaker 1: Oh so you think when Singaretary, if you got rough 1646 01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:02,640 Speaker 1: with them, you think you were trying to take me. 1647 01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:08,200 Speaker 3: Oh yeah he was, Oh absolutely, you know. 1648 01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:13,240 Speaker 2: Oh man, he stood up in practice one day he said, 1649 01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:16,360 Speaker 2: I'll fight all of y'all until I went you might 1650 01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:18,240 Speaker 2: beat me, but I'm gonna get back up until I I'm. 1651 01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:22,680 Speaker 3: Keep on fighting. Such an old school guy, I can 1652 01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:25,040 Speaker 3: get me. But I love that dude. I love that dude, 1653 01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:28,320 Speaker 3: man beast. But we had a heart to heart man 1654 01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:29,440 Speaker 3: and I. 1655 01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:32,720 Speaker 2: From that day, from that moment I got it, I 1656 01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:34,360 Speaker 2: knew exactly what he wanted me to do, and I 1657 01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:37,360 Speaker 2: knew what I needed to do for myself. If I 1658 01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:39,760 Speaker 2: wanted to stay on this team and if I wanted 1659 01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:42,840 Speaker 2: to be a leader for my teammates, I had to 1660 01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:43,559 Speaker 2: change my ways. 1661 01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:44,760 Speaker 3: I had to change my attitude. 1662 01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:49,240 Speaker 2: And thankfully that I had him, I was able to 1663 01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:53,280 Speaker 2: be the player that we saw for fourteen well for 1664 01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:59,240 Speaker 2: the next eleven or twelve eleven to twelve years because 1665 01:18:59,280 --> 01:18:59,599 Speaker 2: of him. 1666 01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:03,599 Speaker 3: He did for me. Tough love, tough love, tough love. 1667 01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:08,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, sometimes they don't need to be put 1668 01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:13,320 Speaker 1: in our place in some form or fashion. Absolutely, you 1669 01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:17,280 Speaker 1: know everyone's got that story. And you know, Coach Single, 1670 01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:19,760 Speaker 1: you could tell he was doing that of love when 1671 01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:23,360 Speaker 1: he did it. You know, you you're a young guy, 1672 01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:28,400 Speaker 1: a lot of money. You've been the man forever. I mean, 1673 01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:31,680 Speaker 1: that's gotta be so hard for you, that's all you know, 1674 01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:36,599 Speaker 1: you know, So that's probably that's one of that. That's 1675 01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:38,599 Speaker 1: probably the turning point of your career right there. That 1676 01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:43,240 Speaker 1: turned you and made you think about that. And because 1677 01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:46,000 Speaker 1: it sounds like your energy changed from the type of 1678 01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:49,320 Speaker 1: teammate you were in everything by the time you got 1679 01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:53,760 Speaker 1: to Washington, where you enjoyed it, I can only imagine 1680 01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:55,799 Speaker 1: this day and age two. 1681 01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:56,400 Speaker 3: Thousand and eight. 1682 01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:59,720 Speaker 1: It wasn't enjoyable at the time when you have a 1683 01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:03,080 Speaker 1: lot of firing is going on, this going on. 1684 01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:05,759 Speaker 3: So man, that's that's awesome. 1685 01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:11,000 Speaker 1: It's awesome that you get real growth out of mistakes 1686 01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:14,559 Speaker 1: if you learn from them, right, if you learn from them, 1687 01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:18,000 Speaker 1: if you learn from this correct Yeah, you're right, amen. 1688 01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:20,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, you don't have to answer this, but I'll be 1689 01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:22,880 Speaker 7: a bad person and ask, but what did Coach Singletary 1690 01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:24,360 Speaker 7: say to you in that conversation Monday? 1691 01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:25,639 Speaker 3: Morning. Well. 1692 01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:29,080 Speaker 2: I don't know if verbadim like exactly what he said, 1693 01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:32,360 Speaker 2: but it was somewhere in the lines like. 1694 01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:37,400 Speaker 3: Son, you have to change. You could do better what 1695 01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:40,719 Speaker 3: you did out there. We can't have that on his teams. Huh. 1696 01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:43,840 Speaker 8: I know what you can be. You can be great, 1697 01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:46,320 Speaker 8: you could be the best tight end in the NFL. 1698 01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:53,360 Speaker 8: But you gotta change. And from that moment I started crying. Yeah, 1699 01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:55,960 Speaker 8: I shook his hand. I said, okay, coach, I got you. 1700 01:20:56,760 --> 01:21:00,280 Speaker 8: From that point on, I was you know it, Scott. 1701 01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:02,040 Speaker 3: I fucking love thank you. 1702 01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:06,040 Speaker 1: A one more touchdowns and I think we need a 1703 01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:09,680 Speaker 1: fucking oscar right there. I'm crying right oh baby, you 1704 01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:11,760 Speaker 1: got you got both characters in there. 1705 01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:16,000 Speaker 3: You got a tear. That was also good. I can't 1706 01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:19,800 Speaker 3: wait to see playing b That was awesome, so funny. 1707 01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:23,160 Speaker 1: What's the relationship with Coach Singletary now? 1708 01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:23,479 Speaker 3: Oh? 1709 01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:25,920 Speaker 2: I love He's like a he's like a father figure, brother, 1710 01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:28,000 Speaker 2: He's just all he's all, He's all of that. 1711 01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:28,200 Speaker 10: Man. 1712 01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:29,679 Speaker 2: I reached out to him and when I was writing 1713 01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:31,519 Speaker 2: this book, I was like, coach, can you I love 1714 01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:34,759 Speaker 2: to have you, you know, do the forward this book. 1715 01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:37,840 Speaker 2: He's like to beat honor He's like to be an honor. 1716 01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:41,599 Speaker 2: I was like, Wow, that's amazing. I appreciate your blessings 1717 01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:46,759 Speaker 2: for that, and uh LinkedIn with the publishing company and 1718 01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:47,720 Speaker 2: you know the rest was his. 1719 01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:50,120 Speaker 4: Wow, that's pretty darnk cool, full circle moment. 1720 01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:50,599 Speaker 3: I love that. 1721 01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:54,200 Speaker 1: Full circle Jack, give us the aftermath in the legacy 1722 01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:54,679 Speaker 1: of this game. 1723 01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:57,640 Speaker 4: So this one, this one wrapped up. Thirty four thirteen, 1724 01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:00,840 Speaker 4: full back Leonard Weaver had a heck of a second half, 1725 01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:03,559 Speaker 4: broke off some I mean a forty three yarder and 1726 01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:06,320 Speaker 4: a sixty two yarder for a full back. That's crazy. 1727 01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:10,479 Speaker 4: Shout out of Leonard Weaver. Bro Carson Newman Baby. Thirty 1728 01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:12,200 Speaker 4: four thirteen, Seattle wins. 1729 01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:13,240 Speaker 3: Uh. 1730 01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:17,320 Speaker 4: Mike Singletary goes on his legendary press conference rant that 1731 01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:20,240 Speaker 4: we all know and that we just broke down. The 1732 01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:23,639 Speaker 4: Niners finished seven and nine, finished the season five and two, 1733 01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:27,240 Speaker 4: so got some little momentum going into nine. Seahawks finished 1734 01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:30,080 Speaker 4: four and twelve. The home Gren era comes to an end. 1735 01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:33,719 Speaker 4: They bring in Jim morri for a lone season before 1736 01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:37,080 Speaker 4: the Pete Carroll Era starts, and both teams would miss 1737 01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:40,120 Speaker 4: the playoffs. Mike Singletary would be retained as head coach 1738 01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:43,479 Speaker 4: for the next season. Kind of that one ended up. 1739 01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:46,240 Speaker 1: Baby, what are the greatest coaching rants of all time? 1740 01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:49,519 Speaker 1: That's gotta be It's gotta Denny Green. 1741 01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:52,680 Speaker 3: Oh, that was a good one. We thought they were 1742 01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:54,880 Speaker 3: the Hawk. 1743 01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:57,320 Speaker 4: I love his energy. 1744 01:22:57,360 --> 01:23:04,400 Speaker 3: Man, alright, p Denny Man? Yea? Who else coaches? Man? 1745 01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:06,280 Speaker 4: I'm trying to think. 1746 01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:06,760 Speaker 5: I'm a man. 1747 01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:09,400 Speaker 4: I'm for the Olahoma State one college. 1748 01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:11,120 Speaker 3: Bill's had some. 1749 01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:12,040 Speaker 4: Good ones in his own right. 1750 01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:12,880 Speaker 3: What does he said? 1751 01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:18,880 Speaker 1: That's not a rant though, it's like a word for Bill, 1752 01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:20,559 Speaker 1: a legendary. 1753 01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:22,800 Speaker 3: Is this is is this is? 1754 01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:24,280 Speaker 1: This has got to be one of the best coach 1755 01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:26,200 Speaker 1: trans It's up there. 1756 01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:30,080 Speaker 3: You never be up there, I think. So it's got 1757 01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:32,479 Speaker 3: to be. That's pretty funny, and. 1758 01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:35,759 Speaker 4: Some good came out of it, which I love because 1759 01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:37,160 Speaker 4: that's pretty funny. 1760 01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:41,360 Speaker 3: He's not getting me better than that. There's no way. Then. 1761 01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:43,519 Speaker 1: Do you think the Niners are going to get over 1762 01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:45,479 Speaker 1: the hump this year or what? What do you think 1763 01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:46,559 Speaker 1: about the current Niners? 1764 01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:49,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they I think right now, there's a 1765 01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:53,720 Speaker 2: few bumps and bruises. This team has really been. It's 1766 01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:57,200 Speaker 2: really suffered, you know, mostly injuries and things of that nature. 1767 01:23:57,200 --> 01:23:59,519 Speaker 2: But I don't think it really. I don't think it 1768 01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:01,160 Speaker 2: has anything to do with the coaching staff. I think 1769 01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:03,720 Speaker 2: they really they fix the things that they needed to 1770 01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:06,880 Speaker 2: fix since the last Super super Bowl from last year. 1771 01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:08,920 Speaker 2: I believe in them. I think they can do it. 1772 01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:11,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be a lot harder, you know. I 1773 01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:12,840 Speaker 3: use out for the year. 1774 01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:15,559 Speaker 1: We still don't know where Christian by the time this 1775 01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:17,640 Speaker 1: episode is out, Christian could be balling right now, or 1776 01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:22,080 Speaker 1: he still could be exactly somewhere on IR. Yeah, I 1777 01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:25,320 Speaker 1: just feel like I feel like they're losing their mojo 1778 01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:29,240 Speaker 1: because they like to play from ahead. They like to 1779 01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:32,680 Speaker 1: get that lead, you know, get that run game, have 1780 01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:37,200 Speaker 1: the defense play third down, exotic blitzes, exotic games with 1781 01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:39,559 Speaker 1: the lineman with four, and then play the zone in 1782 01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:41,559 Speaker 1: the back that's where they get all their turnovers. So 1783 01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:44,040 Speaker 1: like right now, they're not jumping on leads right now, 1784 01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:46,320 Speaker 1: and so they're playing the game from behind, which they're 1785 01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:49,599 Speaker 1: not comfortable really doing right now. And you know, if 1786 01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:53,320 Speaker 1: Rock Purty uses this time, you know and remembers this 1787 01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:56,400 Speaker 1: time not happening his weapons, if he uses this much 1788 01:24:56,560 --> 01:25:00,479 Speaker 1: like the rant for a learning experience on Hey, You're 1789 01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:02,719 Speaker 1: gonna have to win games when you don't have your guys. 1790 01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:05,519 Speaker 1: Sometimes it can help him in the you know, for 1791 01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:07,840 Speaker 1: the future. That's why I think they're right right now. 1792 01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:10,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and I believe that I strongly do it. 1793 01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:13,760 Speaker 2: But but if Pertty is who we who he say 1794 01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:16,280 Speaker 2: he is, and who we believe him to be, believe 1795 01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:19,320 Speaker 2: he is, I think he can Uh, he could be the. 1796 01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:22,920 Speaker 3: Answer for this team. Yeah, you think that, I think so. 1797 01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:25,519 Speaker 2: I think so, as long as he's stay consistent and 1798 01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:27,439 Speaker 2: he do with everything he has to do to get 1799 01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:30,240 Speaker 2: the ball downfield, first down, touchdown. 1800 01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:34,040 Speaker 1: He's been turning the ball over a little too much 1801 01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:37,160 Speaker 1: right now. You we gotta gotta get it. 1802 01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:39,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it. You can't do that. You can't. That's 1803 01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:42,439 Speaker 3: a that's a lack of focus. That's what I'm saying. 1804 01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:45,560 Speaker 2: If he can get back to to that killer instinct 1805 01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:46,760 Speaker 2: he had coming in. 1806 01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:47,879 Speaker 3: Sometimes I think. 1807 01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:52,360 Speaker 1: He he thinks about how everyone talks about him being 1808 01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:55,439 Speaker 1: so basic, where he tries to be too extraordinary. Yeah, 1809 01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:58,400 Speaker 1: to like prove a point, Hey Bud, just be you, 1810 01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:03,360 Speaker 1: just be you and dice right, you know, But we 1811 01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:05,960 Speaker 1: miss anything from this game or this this generation. 1812 01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:11,400 Speaker 3: Pats No nothing, I don't nothing or forty nine ers. 1813 01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:14,120 Speaker 4: Geez, we got pats on the brain maybe, Oh, they 1814 01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:15,280 Speaker 4: got to get in football money. 1815 01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:19,080 Speaker 7: So you edited your career in Washington. What was it 1816 01:26:19,160 --> 01:26:21,160 Speaker 7: like finishing your career with your hometown team. 1817 01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:25,000 Speaker 2: Oh, finishing my career with the Washington Commanders back in 1818 01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:28,599 Speaker 2: my hometown team, back in my hometown was truly amazing 1819 01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:30,200 Speaker 2: for me because I had a chance to play in 1820 01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:34,640 Speaker 2: front of friends and family and spent time with the 1821 01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:37,320 Speaker 2: people that I never really had a chance to spend 1822 01:26:37,320 --> 01:26:40,240 Speaker 2: time with, like my mom, because my grandparents raised me 1823 01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:44,040 Speaker 2: and my six siblings. So it was it was great 1824 01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:46,360 Speaker 2: and that's the reason why I'm still there because of 1825 01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:49,080 Speaker 2: my experience playing with the team and being back there 1826 01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:52,880 Speaker 2: is really I'm really intrigued with the city. I mean, 1827 01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:57,520 Speaker 2: it's an amazing city. Is it evolved, how it evolved 1828 01:26:57,680 --> 01:27:02,280 Speaker 2: is just just pretty cool to see because I grew 1829 01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:05,839 Speaker 2: up there, and you know, having that ten year separation, 1830 01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:10,719 Speaker 2: going to San Francisco and coming back after leaving Denver. 1831 01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:13,640 Speaker 3: I don't want to go anywhere else yet. I very appreciative. 1832 01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:16,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, how been playing with Jade Daniels? 1833 01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:19,800 Speaker 2: Oh, jayde Daniels, watching him in college, everything that he 1834 01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:22,240 Speaker 2: did in college I knew that was going to transfer 1835 01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:25,040 Speaker 2: over to the NFL. I mean, that dude was that 1836 01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:26,920 Speaker 2: dude's I mean, he didn't want to win the Heisman 1837 01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:29,840 Speaker 2: for nothing. And I met him when he was in college. 1838 01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:32,240 Speaker 2: I just I could tell he was just a great kid. 1839 01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:35,519 Speaker 2: Very seemed like he was very focused. He loved playing, 1840 01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:38,599 Speaker 2: he loved the game of football, and he just I mean, 1841 01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:40,080 Speaker 2: he can do it, man, he can do it. 1842 01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:41,560 Speaker 3: Can't teach that, can't teach it. 1843 01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:44,639 Speaker 2: He's just a He's a special football player. 1844 01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:46,679 Speaker 5: And I've got one more selfish question. 1845 01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:49,439 Speaker 7: I'm a big Virginia Tech fan, and no, Maryland, you 1846 01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:52,160 Speaker 7: played in Virginia Tech Blacksberger on a Thursday night. Can 1847 01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:53,960 Speaker 7: you just tell me a little bit what it's like 1848 01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:55,800 Speaker 7: playing being on a way team playing a Blackspur on 1849 01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:56,400 Speaker 7: Thursday night. 1850 01:27:56,479 --> 01:27:59,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, playing at Virginia Tech is that's that's a crazy 1851 01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:03,040 Speaker 2: the environment. They love football out there, They love football 1852 01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:06,280 Speaker 2: and they most of the time they have great players. 1853 01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:08,560 Speaker 2: And I believe who was who was quarterback when I 1854 01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:11,479 Speaker 2: was there, Marcus Vick. I believe it's the quarterback when 1855 01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:12,479 Speaker 2: I was Yeah, he was. 1856 01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:15,479 Speaker 3: He was. I mean he could play, I mean college, 1857 01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:15,920 Speaker 3: he could play. 1858 01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:20,680 Speaker 2: He was fast he could he could pass and was 1859 01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:21,599 Speaker 2: camp chancellor there. 1860 01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:25,080 Speaker 3: I think he might have been Josh Morgan, might have 1861 01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:28,320 Speaker 3: been Josh Morgan was there exactly Josh. 1862 01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:31,240 Speaker 2: I played against Josh in high school, was at Eastern 1863 01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:34,959 Speaker 2: Senior High School when I was at Dunbar, Dumbbar. 1864 01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:39,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, so they had some talent for sure. But yeah, 1865 01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:42,160 Speaker 3: that's that's a tough environment to play man, love it, 1866 01:28:42,200 --> 01:28:42,599 Speaker 3: Thank you. 1867 01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:44,960 Speaker 1: We'll be right back after this quick break. 1868 01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:49,200 Speaker 11: Hey, hey, hey, Rob Gronkowski here and I'm with my 1869 01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:52,160 Speaker 11: bro or my dude. 1870 01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:55,679 Speaker 1: Jules, and we are super excited to tell you about 1871 01:28:55,720 --> 01:28:58,439 Speaker 1: our new show, Dudes on Dudes. 1872 01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:00,559 Speaker 3: We're just regular as well. 1873 01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:04,400 Speaker 11: Sometimes we can't read, sometimes we can't speak properly, but. 1874 01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:08,599 Speaker 3: That's what dudes do. But Dudes on Dudes, seriously, who 1875 01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:09,120 Speaker 3: named this? 1876 01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:14,800 Speaker 11: Anyways, we're spilling all the behind scenes stories, crazy details, 1877 01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:17,960 Speaker 11: and honestly just having a blast talking football. 1878 01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:21,719 Speaker 1: Every week, we're discussing our favorite players of all times, 1879 01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:24,440 Speaker 1: from legends to our buddies to current. 1880 01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:28,240 Speaker 11: Stars, and the best part, we're finally answering the age 1881 01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:32,679 Speaker 11: old question what kind of dudes are these dudes? 1882 01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:35,599 Speaker 1: Is Travis Kelcey a stud or a freak? 1883 01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:39,040 Speaker 3: Is Tom Brady a dog or dude's dude? We're gonna 1884 01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:39,519 Speaker 3: find out. 1885 01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:43,360 Speaker 1: Every episode drops every Thursday during the NFL season. 1886 01:29:43,400 --> 01:29:46,479 Speaker 11: Those are some good questions right there, Julian. We're gonna 1887 01:29:46,520 --> 01:29:50,080 Speaker 11: find out soon. And watch us on YouTube, listen wherever 1888 01:29:50,120 --> 01:29:53,519 Speaker 11: you listen to podcasts, and of course, follow us all 1889 01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:55,559 Speaker 11: over social media. 1890 01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:58,639 Speaker 1: So hit that subscribe button, follow us everywhere and join 1891 01:29:58,720 --> 01:29:59,639 Speaker 1: the dude party. 1892 01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:02,840 Speaker 3: You don't want to miss this, dudes on dudes, let's 1893 01:30:02,840 --> 01:30:10,439 Speaker 3: go name the game. 1894 01:30:10,479 --> 01:30:12,920 Speaker 1: We gotta name this game. These are some names we 1895 01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:14,439 Speaker 1: came up with, or if you want. 1896 01:30:14,240 --> 01:30:16,360 Speaker 3: To name the game, you have an idea, you could 1897 01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:16,800 Speaker 3: name it. 1898 01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:20,200 Speaker 1: We came up with the cannot play with Them game, 1899 01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:25,200 Speaker 1: the hit the Showers game, the Singletary Ramp game, the 1900 01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:29,200 Speaker 1: Vernon Davis game, the Leonard Weaver game, or do you 1901 01:30:29,240 --> 01:30:29,960 Speaker 1: have something else? 1902 01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:33,120 Speaker 3: They cannot play with them game? They cannot play with them? 1903 01:30:33,439 --> 01:30:37,679 Speaker 10: I can't play with them. Ah, well, winners. I told Vernon, 1904 01:30:38,360 --> 01:30:43,600 Speaker 10: We'll take the shower. That's damn good as that's a 1905 01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:47,080 Speaker 10: rookie skin. That's rookie skins here right there. Let's score 1906 01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:50,120 Speaker 10: the game presented by Jamison. Is this the greatest game 1907 01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:55,320 Speaker 10: of all time. Let's score it steaks zero to ten decimals. 1908 01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:55,719 Speaker 3: Okay. 1909 01:30:55,760 --> 01:30:59,759 Speaker 1: The stakes of this week seven Week eight, two thousand 1910 01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:03,960 Speaker 1: and eight eight game stakes of this game, new coach. 1911 01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:10,040 Speaker 3: Say four, five, four, four point five for okay, I'll 1912 01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:11,280 Speaker 3: go with the pro score. 1913 01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:15,800 Speaker 4: I go with the five five even Vernon on the 1914 01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:17,160 Speaker 4: same page four point five and. 1915 01:31:17,160 --> 01:31:18,040 Speaker 5: I had a four point one. 1916 01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:23,960 Speaker 1: The star power of this game zero to ten decimals, okay, ten, ten, 1917 01:31:24,880 --> 01:31:27,599 Speaker 1: three backup quarterbacks played, you got you got, you got 1918 01:31:27,680 --> 01:31:28,280 Speaker 1: Vernon in there. 1919 01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:30,519 Speaker 3: You gotta put some respect on JT. So I'll go 1920 01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:32,840 Speaker 3: with the his YouTube. You don't have to go to 1921 01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:34,759 Speaker 3: I'm saying ten. I'm thinking about all the other guys. 1922 01:31:35,240 --> 01:31:39,320 Speaker 4: You gotta get the j T o L he's got 1923 01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:43,360 Speaker 4: YouTube yet, No, not yet, go back. 1924 01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:50,240 Speaker 3: Take that ten away, let's go. Let's go six, six. 1925 01:31:50,880 --> 01:31:53,520 Speaker 7: Six point five march On worth three point five points 1926 01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:54,040 Speaker 7: that right. 1927 01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:55,800 Speaker 3: At least I give. 1928 01:31:57,080 --> 01:32:00,880 Speaker 7: A six out of five point one. 1929 01:32:00,920 --> 01:32:01,880 Speaker 4: I was going a little low there. 1930 01:32:01,920 --> 01:32:02,240 Speaker 3: Sorry. 1931 01:32:02,720 --> 01:32:07,960 Speaker 1: The game play to this thirty five to fourteen game, 1932 01:32:08,760 --> 01:32:13,000 Speaker 1: zero to ten decimals, okay, zero being terrible, ten being. 1933 01:32:13,240 --> 01:32:17,960 Speaker 3: Three point five three five integrity score very integrity type score. 1934 01:32:18,920 --> 01:32:21,000 Speaker 3: Uh this man, this guy. 1935 01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:23,439 Speaker 1: He respects the integrity of the art. I love that 1936 01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:27,439 Speaker 1: there's I could feel it. I'm gonna go with a 1937 01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:30,559 Speaker 1: five to one, still pro football. 1938 01:32:30,600 --> 01:32:32,040 Speaker 4: I love fall four point zero. 1939 01:32:32,240 --> 01:32:34,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm righting the four point two. 1940 01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:38,439 Speaker 1: Now we score the name of the game. They can't 1941 01:32:38,439 --> 01:32:43,360 Speaker 1: play with them game. That's cultural significance, cultural significance. We 1942 01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:46,719 Speaker 1: are talking about this game literally, damn near twenty years later, 1943 01:32:47,320 --> 01:32:48,559 Speaker 1: Week eight game. 1944 01:32:49,120 --> 01:32:51,160 Speaker 4: You say that line. Everyone knows what game you're talking about. 1945 01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:54,000 Speaker 1: Let's score this name of this game. 1946 01:32:54,880 --> 01:32:59,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, heck yes, oh yeah, seven, five, seven point five. 1947 01:33:01,400 --> 01:33:02,280 Speaker 4: I went with an eight points. 1948 01:33:02,680 --> 01:33:03,400 Speaker 3: I did at eight. 1949 01:33:03,280 --> 01:33:08,040 Speaker 7: Point one five seven eight seven, eight point seven eight. 1950 01:33:08,120 --> 01:33:13,519 Speaker 7: That puts us okay, It puts US sixty seventh, right 1951 01:33:13,560 --> 01:33:17,160 Speaker 7: below the twenty nineteen Raiders versus Bears in London and 1952 01:33:17,240 --> 01:33:21,280 Speaker 7: right above Week eleven or twenty eleven Week sixteen Patriots 1953 01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:22,280 Speaker 7: versus Bills. 1954 01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:25,440 Speaker 3: That feels right. That feels right, nice. 1955 01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:28,920 Speaker 4: Games man, that feels like a good spot. 1956 01:33:29,200 --> 01:33:34,519 Speaker 3: Heck yeah, wow, Brint, we miss anything o the book 1957 01:33:34,600 --> 01:33:38,799 Speaker 3: We talked about the book movie Farm that's. 1958 01:33:38,760 --> 01:33:43,679 Speaker 1: Playing me the Farm playing ball life. Lessons from my 1959 01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:45,679 Speaker 1: Journey to the Super Bowl and beyond. 1960 01:33:46,040 --> 01:33:50,280 Speaker 3: Awesome members seventy two hours, come out November first, seventy 1961 01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:53,240 Speaker 3: two hours, Sam, I got Sam Trammel. 1962 01:33:54,520 --> 01:33:56,240 Speaker 2: That's a good movie, man, you gotta check it out. 1963 01:33:56,240 --> 01:33:57,240 Speaker 2: It comes out November first. 1964 01:33:57,520 --> 01:34:00,320 Speaker 3: I mean, he's got he just worked. It might be 1965 01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:03,320 Speaker 3: one of my better movies, right here, man, Yes, seventy 1966 01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:05,759 Speaker 3: two hours. Let me check it out. And my music 1967 01:34:05,800 --> 01:34:07,880 Speaker 3: is in the movie. And they showed me that's me rapping, 1968 01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:08,519 Speaker 3: that's me singing. 1969 01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:11,519 Speaker 2: No way, So I get up to stop the girl 1970 01:34:11,560 --> 01:34:15,599 Speaker 2: from getting from robbing the burger joint. Yeah, And I 1971 01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:18,639 Speaker 2: get up and I go quick whipping on the guy, 1972 01:34:18,680 --> 01:34:19,439 Speaker 2: and that's my song. 1973 01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:20,799 Speaker 3: Give me a quick eight bars. 1974 01:34:23,720 --> 01:34:25,280 Speaker 4: I saw the trailer on I g this morning. It 1975 01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:25,839 Speaker 4: looks insane. 1976 01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:31,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just no number one. Everyone go check it out. 1977 01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:34,240 Speaker 3: Thank you, bro, appreciate you coming. Thank you guys. 1978 01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:38,439 Speaker 1: Burn Davis is fully an actor, what a guy. Fully 1979 01:34:38,680 --> 01:34:41,439 Speaker 1: He did like a full monologue scene right there, voices 1980 01:34:41,840 --> 01:34:45,680 Speaker 1: two mo and forth. His impersonations were great, too spectacular. 1981 01:34:46,520 --> 01:34:48,200 Speaker 1: I thought I was singletary. 1982 01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:50,439 Speaker 4: I thought we had a mic on the show. 1983 01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:52,439 Speaker 3: I wanted to ask him, did he ever mock him? 1984 01:34:52,479 --> 01:34:55,560 Speaker 3: Do it? Like? Second? Did you ever do you know 1985 01:34:55,600 --> 01:34:55,960 Speaker 3: what I mean? 1986 01:34:56,280 --> 01:34:58,680 Speaker 4: Or like behind his back, Like, yeah, I didn't get 1987 01:34:58,680 --> 01:35:00,280 Speaker 4: a chance to ask him, but I read it thing 1988 01:35:01,320 --> 01:35:04,200 Speaker 4: uh earlier that I guess Delaney Walker, who was on 1989 01:35:04,240 --> 01:35:07,200 Speaker 4: this team, Yeah, was saying that. Singletary came in later 1990 01:35:07,200 --> 01:35:10,040 Speaker 4: that week and like did a rap based on like 1991 01:35:10,120 --> 01:35:12,400 Speaker 4: his press conference to the team, and it was just like, 1992 01:35:12,439 --> 01:35:15,000 Speaker 4: what is this what? I didn't get a chance as room. 1993 01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:19,200 Speaker 1: I really wish I had, God damn. 1994 01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:20,080 Speaker 3: It, Jack Well. 1995 01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:26,679 Speaker 1: In honor of today's Mike Singletary legendary rant, we're gonna 1996 01:35:26,720 --> 01:35:28,760 Speaker 1: do a breakdown. Let's break down some of the other 1997 01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:29,519 Speaker 1: coaches rants. 1998 01:35:29,600 --> 01:35:29,800 Speaker 3: Huh. 1999 01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:31,240 Speaker 1: There are a lot of them, a lot of those 2000 01:35:31,280 --> 01:35:37,680 Speaker 1: press conference guys that you know. One recently in the 2001 01:35:37,720 --> 01:35:41,240 Speaker 1: press called team soft. That's is that a rant? 2002 01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:44,040 Speaker 4: It's a notable press It is a notable press conference moment. 2003 01:35:44,640 --> 01:35:47,799 Speaker 4: We're still talking about it. So he did something, it's something, 2004 01:35:47,880 --> 01:35:49,160 Speaker 4: and we kept it the football. 2005 01:35:49,240 --> 01:35:51,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll keep it football when the press coaches. 2006 01:35:51,479 --> 01:35:53,160 Speaker 5: Because there are some great player ones too. 2007 01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:57,640 Speaker 3: Oh man, let's get into it. 2008 01:35:57,760 --> 01:36:00,680 Speaker 4: We'll run through these, We'll we'll read through the transcripts, 2009 01:36:00,720 --> 01:36:04,040 Speaker 4: which just make them even Funnykendy to see them on paper, 2010 01:36:04,439 --> 01:36:04,760 Speaker 4: and then. 2011 01:36:04,680 --> 01:36:06,360 Speaker 5: We'll Reac gree Mullet, Mike Gundy. 2012 01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:09,719 Speaker 4: Mike Gundy Oklahoma State head coach, still the head coach. 2013 01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:11,519 Speaker 4: This is back in seven. 2014 01:36:13,640 --> 01:36:18,559 Speaker 1: I'm a man, I'm not I'm not a kid. 2015 01:36:18,760 --> 01:36:20,880 Speaker 3: Write something by me or some coaches. 2016 01:36:22,600 --> 01:36:25,200 Speaker 4: And this was after this is the craziest thing is 2017 01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:28,280 Speaker 4: this was following a win like this was after a win. 2018 01:36:28,840 --> 01:36:30,840 Speaker 4: This was two days after a winter crazy. You know, 2019 01:36:30,840 --> 01:36:32,840 Speaker 4: on a Wednesday, he gets in there. They said he 2020 01:36:32,920 --> 01:36:35,559 Speaker 4: ripped the red bull before going into this, grabbed the 2021 01:36:35,560 --> 01:36:38,439 Speaker 4: newspaper and just goes off on the media about this. 2022 01:36:38,479 --> 01:36:41,080 Speaker 3: Article that that they wrote about his. 2023 01:36:40,760 --> 01:36:43,519 Speaker 4: His benching of the guy who had been the starter, 2024 01:36:44,439 --> 01:36:48,080 Speaker 4: Bobby Reid, and there was some tension there. Uh So 2025 01:36:48,120 --> 01:36:50,960 Speaker 4: he put in Zach Robinson, who we now know is 2026 01:36:51,000 --> 01:36:55,000 Speaker 4: the offensive coordinator down to Atlanta, and they were saying, 2027 01:36:55,240 --> 01:36:58,479 Speaker 4: according to Reid's account and others, this was a lot 2028 01:36:58,520 --> 01:37:01,799 Speaker 4: of posturing to really like he really wasn't. 2029 01:37:02,320 --> 01:37:03,720 Speaker 5: So the locker room didn't buy into this. 2030 01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:07,160 Speaker 4: No, Bobby Reid definitely didn't. The relationship was kind of 2031 01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:09,960 Speaker 4: strained there. He thought, you know, the starting job should 2032 01:37:09,960 --> 01:37:13,479 Speaker 4: have been his, but behind closed doors, Oklahoma State wanted 2033 01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:16,200 Speaker 4: to go with Robinson. And he's kind of out there 2034 01:37:16,760 --> 01:37:18,640 Speaker 4: fake sticking up for his guy. He's sort of the 2035 01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:19,439 Speaker 4: legend around it. 2036 01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:24,559 Speaker 3: But how many years ago this was? This was seven. 2037 01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:29,040 Speaker 7: I'm a man, I'm forty. I say that twice a week. 2038 01:37:29,080 --> 01:37:30,400 Speaker 3: It still is in the lexicon. 2039 01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:32,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, it also makes me feel better about getting older 2040 01:37:32,840 --> 01:37:35,200 Speaker 4: because not yet a man. I'm not even forty yet. 2041 01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:37,759 Speaker 4: So like, I'm good, I got a long ways to go. Tom, 2042 01:37:37,800 --> 01:37:38,439 Speaker 4: I'm still a boy. 2043 01:37:38,680 --> 01:37:40,479 Speaker 5: Can't write anything bad about you, that's. 2044 01:37:40,360 --> 01:37:42,879 Speaker 1: Right, baby, Mike Gundy said some wild stuff. 2045 01:37:44,240 --> 01:37:50,559 Speaker 3: He's a rodeo brother. He's not cowboys. Shout out the cowboys. Baby. 2046 01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:53,760 Speaker 1: He's a visor guy too, big visor. 2047 01:37:53,439 --> 01:37:55,240 Speaker 5: Guy, mullet guy mulle advisors. 2048 01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:59,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's uh, he's a one of a kind guy. 2049 01:37:59,439 --> 01:38:00,920 Speaker 4: He he was. 2050 01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:03,200 Speaker 3: Actually he was the OC. 2051 01:38:03,040 --> 01:38:05,519 Speaker 4: When they recruited this Bobby Reid guy and got in 2052 01:38:05,640 --> 01:38:07,639 Speaker 4: a stick around. But Less Miles was the head coach, 2053 01:38:07,880 --> 01:38:10,120 Speaker 4: which I forgot. I forgot out Less Miles at Oklahoma State. 2054 01:38:10,400 --> 01:38:12,400 Speaker 4: Oh shit, that one kind of went under my radar. 2055 01:38:13,080 --> 01:38:16,559 Speaker 4: But a tie back into this game that prompted this rant. 2056 01:38:17,400 --> 01:38:20,800 Speaker 4: They had beat they want to shootout against Texas Tech 2057 01:38:21,200 --> 01:38:25,040 Speaker 4: a couple of days before this forty nine forty five 2058 01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:27,599 Speaker 4: Dola in this. 2059 01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:30,240 Speaker 3: Game, Yeah, fourteen. 2060 01:38:29,800 --> 01:38:33,200 Speaker 4: Catches for two hundred and thirty three yards in a 2061 01:38:33,240 --> 01:38:36,760 Speaker 4: tuddy Graham Harrold's out there throwing till his arm falls off. 2062 01:38:36,960 --> 01:38:40,640 Speaker 4: Forty six of sixty seven for six hundred forty six yards, 2063 01:38:40,920 --> 01:38:41,960 Speaker 4: five touchdowns. 2064 01:38:42,200 --> 01:38:43,080 Speaker 3: Jesus, that is. 2065 01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:47,920 Speaker 4: The old Crowdtree to Crabtree, fourteen catches, two hundred and 2066 01:38:47,920 --> 01:38:49,880 Speaker 4: thirty seven yards, three touchdowns. 2067 01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:51,720 Speaker 3: This game is core had a two game. 2068 01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:52,759 Speaker 5: I missed Big twelve. 2069 01:38:52,840 --> 01:38:54,799 Speaker 3: I missed when it was like that man. 2070 01:38:54,680 --> 01:38:57,519 Speaker 1: Dola and Crabtree. That's a good little that's a good receiver. 2071 01:38:57,720 --> 01:39:00,320 Speaker 3: That is fun. Baby year. 2072 01:39:00,439 --> 01:39:02,679 Speaker 5: They were just breaking the all time touchdown record. 2073 01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:05,680 Speaker 3: Just letting it fly. Oh, Dola made the guys go 2074 01:39:05,800 --> 01:39:06,320 Speaker 3: on a rant. 2075 01:39:06,600 --> 01:39:10,080 Speaker 4: Dola Crabtree friend of the show, Dola, we love you, baby, Vodola, 2076 01:39:11,760 --> 01:39:16,280 Speaker 4: go vote. But I love that. I just rarely do 2077 01:39:16,320 --> 01:39:19,760 Speaker 4: you get a great rant days after a win. It's 2078 01:39:19,760 --> 01:39:23,479 Speaker 4: a unique, it's unique in the rant world. We got 2079 01:39:23,479 --> 01:39:26,080 Speaker 4: a we had Dennis Green. We mentioned that a little 2080 01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:28,439 Speaker 4: bit with Vernon during the episode. Vern was a fan 2081 01:39:28,479 --> 01:39:31,000 Speaker 4: of that rant when he was the head coach of 2082 01:39:31,000 --> 01:39:35,519 Speaker 4: the Arizona Cardinals. This is two thousand and six. This 2083 01:39:35,680 --> 01:39:37,599 Speaker 4: is Rex Grossman Super Bowl year. 2084 01:39:37,640 --> 01:39:41,040 Speaker 5: Baby, like that defense was just on fire. 2085 01:39:41,120 --> 01:39:44,200 Speaker 4: After a Monday night game, Dennis Green's Cardinals were one 2086 01:39:44,240 --> 01:39:47,200 Speaker 4: in four. The Bears, who eventually went to the Super 2087 01:39:47,240 --> 01:39:51,040 Speaker 4: Bowl were five and zero, and after three quarters of football, 2088 01:39:51,080 --> 01:39:54,200 Speaker 4: Arizona was leading them twenty three to ten. But with 2089 01:39:54,240 --> 01:39:57,120 Speaker 4: five minutes ago, the peanut punch Man, the punch man 2090 01:39:57,160 --> 01:40:00,639 Speaker 4: peanut till he returned to Edgard and j Games fumble 2091 01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:03,400 Speaker 4: for a tuddy edge edge of Cardinals years. You forget 2092 01:40:03,400 --> 01:40:04,640 Speaker 4: about those, don't forget about them? 2093 01:40:04,640 --> 01:40:07,080 Speaker 7: Which are better than? Which is which is better? Edgrid 2094 01:40:07,160 --> 01:40:09,479 Speaker 7: James from the Cardinals or Emmitt Smith on the Cardinals? 2095 01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:11,959 Speaker 3: Oh both weirdo. 2096 01:40:12,560 --> 01:40:14,760 Speaker 1: Both probably think went over a thousand. You have to 2097 01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:15,680 Speaker 1: look that up here real quick. 2098 01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:16,360 Speaker 3: No, you don't have to. 2099 01:40:16,439 --> 01:40:19,040 Speaker 4: Just then with and then two minutes later after that frumble, 2100 01:40:19,080 --> 01:40:23,240 Speaker 4: Devin Huster returns upon eighty three yards, which would be 2101 01:40:23,280 --> 01:40:24,120 Speaker 4: the game winning score. 2102 01:40:24,200 --> 01:40:25,439 Speaker 3: So it was a brutal loss. 2103 01:40:25,760 --> 01:40:29,120 Speaker 4: Rip their hearts out and Dennis Green takes the podium 2104 01:40:29,120 --> 01:40:30,080 Speaker 4: man and he lets him fly. 2105 01:40:30,240 --> 01:40:35,120 Speaker 3: Baby, are who we thought they were? That's why we 2106 01:40:35,200 --> 01:40:38,120 Speaker 3: took the damn field. You want to crown them, to 2107 01:40:38,240 --> 01:40:39,080 Speaker 3: crown their ass. 2108 01:40:39,240 --> 01:40:42,040 Speaker 1: But we they were that they were remember that, Yes, 2109 01:40:42,200 --> 01:40:48,200 Speaker 1: we let them off TK like the coach slam Bro. 2110 01:40:48,600 --> 01:40:51,040 Speaker 4: That was all time, all the time. 2111 01:40:51,080 --> 01:40:54,559 Speaker 3: I loved that. They's such an old, old school guy. 2112 01:40:54,680 --> 01:40:58,320 Speaker 3: We let them off talk crown their ass, crown. 2113 01:40:58,400 --> 01:41:00,400 Speaker 4: I never really heard that term crown him until Dennis 2114 01:41:00,400 --> 01:41:02,400 Speaker 4: screen Now every time I hear someone say it, I'm. 2115 01:41:02,240 --> 01:41:07,760 Speaker 3: Like Dennis crowd. They picked off Rex Grossman for he 2116 01:41:07,840 --> 01:41:08,680 Speaker 3: passed away? 2117 01:41:08,800 --> 01:41:14,799 Speaker 5: Yeah, I p Man all right, p knis screen Man ready? 2118 01:41:14,800 --> 01:41:17,960 Speaker 4: Moscus carter Man losing what one game that season? 2119 01:41:18,080 --> 01:41:20,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, the heck of a guy. 2120 01:41:20,320 --> 01:41:24,960 Speaker 4: Heck a, this might be my favorite. Moving on, moving on, 2121 01:41:25,080 --> 01:41:27,640 Speaker 4: next one. Jim Mora, another guy we mentioned during the 2122 01:41:27,640 --> 01:41:28,759 Speaker 4: Minneapolis Colts. 2123 01:41:28,960 --> 01:41:31,960 Speaker 1: His son oh Is. This was this after like paying 2124 01:41:32,000 --> 01:41:33,240 Speaker 1: the playing the Patriots. 2125 01:41:33,320 --> 01:41:35,719 Speaker 4: This was two thousand and one. This was after the Niners. 2126 01:41:35,960 --> 01:41:41,720 Speaker 3: Oh they they lost. Talk about playoffs? You kidding me? 2127 01:41:41,840 --> 01:41:42,840 Speaker 4: Playoffs? 2128 01:41:43,400 --> 01:41:47,719 Speaker 3: I just hope we went another game. We'll talk about playoffs. 2129 01:41:47,760 --> 01:41:51,040 Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? Playoffs? I just hope we can 2130 01:41:51,120 --> 01:41:52,799 Speaker 3: win another game. 2131 01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:56,880 Speaker 5: Playoffs. I say this one four times a week. 2132 01:41:57,400 --> 01:42:01,040 Speaker 4: This was they fell to four and six, So this 2133 01:42:01,080 --> 01:42:02,120 Speaker 4: would have been week ten. 2134 01:42:02,640 --> 01:42:04,320 Speaker 3: Oh I don't believe, right, yeah. 2135 01:42:04,120 --> 01:42:06,599 Speaker 4: Weekend because they moved to four and six after this game. 2136 01:42:07,000 --> 01:42:10,320 Speaker 4: Peyton Manning through four picks this game, so that was 2137 01:42:10,360 --> 01:42:11,880 Speaker 4: kind of the story of that when they lost forty 2138 01:42:11,920 --> 01:42:15,000 Speaker 4: one to twenty to San fran Man. So that was 2139 01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:19,479 Speaker 4: a young Peyton Manning just getting ripped. And then thirty 2140 01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:22,360 Speaker 4: went on to say, I don't know. All I know 2141 01:42:22,479 --> 01:42:25,000 Speaker 4: is we threw four interceptions and fumbled once and one 2142 01:42:25,000 --> 01:42:26,639 Speaker 4: interception they returned for a touchdown. 2143 01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:29,360 Speaker 3: Three others were in our endo the field and they score. 2144 01:42:29,400 --> 01:42:29,920 Speaker 3: That's all I know. 2145 01:42:29,960 --> 01:42:32,920 Speaker 4: That's inexcusable. Inexcusable, And then he went on to the 2146 01:42:32,960 --> 01:42:37,679 Speaker 4: classic playoffs. Talk to me about playoffs. So threw Peyton 2147 01:42:37,760 --> 01:42:39,920 Speaker 4: under the bus a little bit there, but I mean he 2148 01:42:39,960 --> 01:42:40,920 Speaker 4: was he was in rent mode. 2149 01:42:41,800 --> 01:42:43,320 Speaker 3: Man. He definitely threw him under the bus. 2150 01:42:44,400 --> 01:42:45,440 Speaker 4: Four receptions? 2151 01:42:46,400 --> 01:42:50,000 Speaker 3: Is Jim Morrigan he's still with us? All right? 2152 01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:53,240 Speaker 1: If he's still kicking, let me double check here, where's 2153 01:42:53,240 --> 01:43:00,320 Speaker 1: his son, where's his junior? Or he's coaching Papa Papa 2154 01:43:00,400 --> 01:43:02,559 Speaker 1: Jim morrew eighty nine. 2155 01:43:02,439 --> 01:43:05,680 Speaker 4: Let's go Jim more And then the sun he was 2156 01:43:06,600 --> 01:43:08,599 Speaker 4: I remember was the Falcons say Yukon My bad. 2157 01:43:08,680 --> 01:43:09,760 Speaker 3: Sorry you come. 2158 01:43:10,400 --> 01:43:13,320 Speaker 7: He was a US head coach for a while, holding 2159 01:43:13,360 --> 01:43:16,800 Speaker 7: it down, bro, you I always I always hated Jim 2160 01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:19,320 Speaker 7: Moore junior, just because making Mike Vick run a West 2161 01:43:19,360 --> 01:43:21,880 Speaker 7: Coast offense. It's just like, I'm like fourteen years old. 2162 01:43:21,960 --> 01:43:23,599 Speaker 7: I'm just like, that's the dumbest thing you've ever seen. 2163 01:43:23,880 --> 01:43:26,599 Speaker 7: Fix whole thing is like improvisation and throwing the ball 2164 01:43:26,680 --> 01:43:28,439 Speaker 7: deep and being an athlete. You're gonna put him on 2165 01:43:28,520 --> 01:43:31,479 Speaker 7: timing routes. What are we fucking doing here? That's my rant. 2166 01:43:31,880 --> 01:43:33,839 Speaker 7: That's pretty good. That's a pretty good postcast. 2167 01:43:34,160 --> 01:43:36,360 Speaker 3: Baby, Mike Vick. 2168 01:43:36,520 --> 01:43:38,720 Speaker 4: Fuck, we love you, We love your Mike. 2169 01:43:39,600 --> 01:43:43,880 Speaker 1: Mike and West Coast would be lethal. It wasn't went 2170 01:43:43,960 --> 01:43:44,679 Speaker 1: to the super Bowl? 2171 01:43:45,280 --> 01:43:47,680 Speaker 3: Didn't didn't they didn't Mike go to the super Bowl, 2172 01:43:47,720 --> 01:43:48,560 Speaker 3: or they went. They went to this. 2173 01:43:48,720 --> 01:43:52,080 Speaker 7: They beat the Packers in the playoffs in Lambeau before 2174 01:43:52,200 --> 01:43:53,400 Speaker 7: they brought in Jim. 2175 01:43:53,720 --> 01:43:57,440 Speaker 5: Oh right, all right, next Michaels, Mike Singletary. 2176 01:43:57,800 --> 01:43:59,880 Speaker 4: We all know that. We we talked about that. When 2177 01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:01,559 Speaker 4: we we don't have a whole heck of a lot. 2178 01:44:01,560 --> 01:44:02,439 Speaker 3: I don't have Vernon to do the. 2179 01:44:03,560 --> 01:44:05,360 Speaker 4: I mean Vernon Davis here with us, So I don't 2180 01:44:05,360 --> 01:44:06,280 Speaker 4: even know if we should try. 2181 01:44:07,800 --> 01:44:10,200 Speaker 3: I like, I like calling them vern I like Vernon. 2182 01:44:10,320 --> 01:44:13,679 Speaker 4: I like when he said former vern Broadway, vern Broadway, 2183 01:44:13,720 --> 01:44:15,240 Speaker 4: ver Broadway, Verne had a great ring to it. 2184 01:44:15,400 --> 01:44:17,160 Speaker 5: Who wants to go to the Jets? 2185 01:44:17,760 --> 01:44:18,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a wild one. 2186 01:44:19,520 --> 01:44:21,320 Speaker 1: I mean, if you gotta, if you think about it, 2187 01:44:21,360 --> 01:44:23,719 Speaker 1: if you got it turned around and wanted the Jets, 2188 01:44:23,760 --> 01:44:26,479 Speaker 1: you'd be a king forever. Yes, So, I mean I 2189 01:44:26,479 --> 01:44:29,320 Speaker 1: could see why guys want to do it. It's it's 2190 01:44:29,360 --> 01:44:32,640 Speaker 1: still New York City. It's still Broadway, Joe. There's a 2191 01:44:32,680 --> 01:44:36,640 Speaker 1: lot of tradition with the Jets. Like it's not like 2192 01:44:36,680 --> 01:44:37,880 Speaker 1: they're Jacksonville. 2193 01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:41,360 Speaker 3: No, really, it's like. 2194 01:44:41,600 --> 01:44:44,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, they did win one Super Bowl in this was 2195 01:44:44,600 --> 01:44:48,400 Speaker 1: it sixties, I mean, but that's still it's like one 2196 01:44:48,400 --> 01:44:50,880 Speaker 1: of the great game and those people. 2197 01:44:50,640 --> 01:44:51,439 Speaker 3: Love their football. 2198 01:44:51,680 --> 01:44:54,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean so, I it'll be like so 2199 01:44:55,080 --> 01:44:56,680 Speaker 1: weird when they when they do win. 2200 01:44:56,880 --> 01:44:57,800 Speaker 3: I think it'd be cool. 2201 01:44:58,560 --> 01:45:00,800 Speaker 4: Will it happen in the next twenty years? 2202 01:45:01,160 --> 01:45:01,679 Speaker 3: I don't know. 2203 01:45:01,880 --> 01:45:03,840 Speaker 4: I don't know either. I don't know. 2204 01:45:04,640 --> 01:45:06,839 Speaker 3: I don't know if it'd be cool, but I wouldn't 2205 01:45:06,880 --> 01:45:07,320 Speaker 3: be mad. 2206 01:45:07,640 --> 01:45:09,320 Speaker 4: It'd be something. Yeah, I mean it would, it would 2207 01:45:09,320 --> 01:45:09,519 Speaker 4: be good. 2208 01:45:09,520 --> 01:45:11,280 Speaker 1: It'd be good for the league for sure, be good 2209 01:45:11,320 --> 01:45:12,080 Speaker 1: for the shield. 2210 01:45:11,920 --> 01:45:15,559 Speaker 5: Of the historically snake bit franchises. Let's just say members 2211 01:45:15,800 --> 01:45:19,040 Speaker 5: or the Chargers, Browns, Browns, Lions. 2212 01:45:19,200 --> 01:45:20,559 Speaker 3: Who's going rounds and Lions? 2213 01:45:21,040 --> 01:45:24,400 Speaker 1: Lions? Lions will do before them all. I think, Oh 2214 01:45:24,439 --> 01:45:25,960 Speaker 1: my gosh, that's kind of crazy. 2215 01:45:26,160 --> 01:45:28,680 Speaker 5: Chargers with Harbor, I know, it's weird right now. 2216 01:45:29,040 --> 01:45:32,400 Speaker 1: They've been competitive and with Philip Rivers not too too 2217 01:45:32,439 --> 01:45:35,479 Speaker 1: far back, Yeah, but they've never the Browns have never, 2218 01:45:36,040 --> 01:45:38,880 Speaker 1: like they had one playoff win since like Bernie Kozar. 2219 01:45:40,240 --> 01:45:44,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, with Baker and then Detroit. 2220 01:45:44,479 --> 01:45:48,320 Speaker 4: I mean I got to learn from it, hopefully. 2221 01:45:48,720 --> 01:45:54,559 Speaker 1: I mean Peter Schrager picked Packers over Chiefs or Packers Chiefs, 2222 01:45:54,600 --> 01:45:56,840 Speaker 1: Chiefs win and three peat, and I guess he's done 2223 01:45:56,840 --> 01:45:57,800 Speaker 1: it like three times in a row. 2224 01:45:58,600 --> 01:46:01,880 Speaker 3: He picked the winner too, or just I don't know, clairvoyant. 2225 01:46:02,479 --> 01:46:06,759 Speaker 1: What else would we got herm Edwards, herm baby? 2226 01:46:06,880 --> 01:46:10,880 Speaker 4: This was This was HERM at the Jets, HERM wearing 2227 01:46:10,920 --> 01:46:14,799 Speaker 4: the crew neck, the shield, polo or a sweatshirt here, 2228 01:46:15,200 --> 01:46:17,360 Speaker 4: great Krwnick was just a shield. I love that this 2229 01:46:17,520 --> 01:46:20,920 Speaker 4: was back in Oh wait, another midweek rant. This was 2230 01:46:20,920 --> 01:46:23,639 Speaker 4: at his Wednesday presser. The Jets were sitting at two 2231 01:46:23,680 --> 01:46:26,800 Speaker 4: and five and herm just lets it loose, baby, he 2232 01:46:26,880 --> 01:46:31,040 Speaker 4: lets it rip. Another great woman is very quotable. This 2233 01:46:31,080 --> 01:46:34,439 Speaker 4: is what's great about sports. You play to win the game. Hello, 2234 01:46:35,520 --> 01:46:38,160 Speaker 4: You play to win the game. You don't just play 2235 01:46:38,200 --> 01:46:38,720 Speaker 4: to play it. 2236 01:46:38,920 --> 01:46:39,280 Speaker 3: Hello. 2237 01:46:40,160 --> 01:46:42,360 Speaker 5: It was to win the game. 2238 01:46:43,680 --> 01:46:44,439 Speaker 4: I love that one. 2239 01:46:44,880 --> 01:46:45,840 Speaker 3: David Bennett. 2240 01:46:46,160 --> 01:46:48,680 Speaker 1: David Bennett, we might need some context. This is a 2241 01:46:49,200 --> 01:46:52,479 Speaker 1: This is a Carolina twenty eleven. I remember this from 2242 01:46:52,520 --> 01:46:55,839 Speaker 1: the world of college football. He is the head coach 2243 01:46:56,240 --> 01:46:59,200 Speaker 1: at Coastal Carolina. Only lasted a few more months after this, 2244 01:46:59,840 --> 01:47:03,519 Speaker 1: but this was this was a great one. When a 2245 01:47:03,600 --> 01:47:06,360 Speaker 1: coach is up there meowing at a press conference, you 2246 01:47:06,360 --> 01:47:07,599 Speaker 1: know you're in for something special. 2247 01:47:08,560 --> 01:47:11,400 Speaker 3: You read this. You need to be more like a dog. 2248 01:47:11,960 --> 01:47:13,320 Speaker 3: We got a bunch of cats in here. 2249 01:47:13,479 --> 01:47:13,759 Speaker 1: Wow. 2250 01:47:14,160 --> 01:47:16,160 Speaker 4: Looking in the mirror, do I look good? I got 2251 01:47:16,160 --> 01:47:18,479 Speaker 4: my extra bands on, I got my other's shoes. 2252 01:47:18,640 --> 01:47:19,240 Speaker 3: Be a dog. 2253 01:47:19,520 --> 01:47:22,000 Speaker 4: We don't need no mews. We don't need no more cats. 2254 01:47:22,120 --> 01:47:23,320 Speaker 4: We need more dogs. 2255 01:47:23,840 --> 01:47:24,640 Speaker 3: So he was uh. 2256 01:47:25,080 --> 01:47:28,400 Speaker 4: He preceded this by telling a story about getting his 2257 01:47:28,439 --> 01:47:31,920 Speaker 4: sons ready for a golf tournament. And a cat got 2258 01:47:31,960 --> 01:47:34,240 Speaker 4: stuck in their screen door at their house, and he 2259 01:47:34,400 --> 01:47:35,960 Speaker 4: was yelling to his sons. 2260 01:47:35,720 --> 01:47:37,800 Speaker 3: There's a cat in the house. What, there's a cat 2261 01:47:37,800 --> 01:47:38,160 Speaker 3: in the house. 2262 01:47:38,160 --> 01:47:40,519 Speaker 4: And he went this whole back and forth, and uh, 2263 01:47:40,800 --> 01:47:43,479 Speaker 4: he starts meowing a bunch, and then he lays into 2264 01:47:43,479 --> 01:47:44,439 Speaker 4: this about dogs. 2265 01:47:44,439 --> 01:47:48,200 Speaker 1: Baby Coastal needed some dogs, and that, right there is 2266 01:47:48,240 --> 01:47:57,439 Speaker 1: why football players and coaches have the dumb tag. Yes, 2267 01:47:57,880 --> 01:48:01,719 Speaker 1: right there, that is that is what are we doing. 2268 01:48:01,880 --> 01:48:05,280 Speaker 5: He's not wrong. You know, cats with dogs. 2269 01:48:04,960 --> 01:48:05,639 Speaker 4: He's not wrong. 2270 01:48:06,840 --> 01:48:07,559 Speaker 3: I can get it. 2271 01:48:07,640 --> 01:48:12,439 Speaker 5: But I transcription too. Where we get this transcription from? 2272 01:48:12,640 --> 01:48:14,840 Speaker 3: Uh? I just wrote it after the. 2273 01:48:14,880 --> 01:48:19,360 Speaker 7: Thing because some dogs are og and some dogs are 2274 01:48:19,400 --> 01:48:22,439 Speaker 7: a And I think it actually works with how I. 2275 01:48:22,439 --> 01:48:27,400 Speaker 4: Think he d d a W referring to the yeah. 2276 01:48:26,840 --> 01:48:28,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, like we need to be playing more like a 2277 01:48:28,439 --> 01:48:30,360 Speaker 7: dog with an Oh great, I need a dag. 2278 01:48:30,720 --> 01:48:31,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, be a dog. 2279 01:48:31,840 --> 01:48:34,080 Speaker 3: I think be a dog? Could be an a a 2280 01:48:34,280 --> 01:48:37,160 Speaker 3: w G. More dogs. Yeah, you needed to go. 2281 01:48:37,280 --> 01:48:40,960 Speaker 1: A w G dog is like a bat like dirty dog. 2282 01:48:42,280 --> 01:48:45,960 Speaker 1: That's like what this is. This is I wouldn't say 2283 01:48:46,040 --> 01:48:50,639 Speaker 1: dumb tag, but I'm pretty sure after this. In looking 2284 01:48:50,680 --> 01:48:54,360 Speaker 1: back on this in twenty twenty four. This coach. Do 2285 01:48:54,400 --> 01:48:57,000 Speaker 1: you think he wins? Is a little like I shouldn't 2286 01:48:57,000 --> 01:48:57,559 Speaker 1: have said that. 2287 01:48:57,560 --> 01:49:00,519 Speaker 4: I wonder. I mean, this is one of the I mean, 2288 01:49:00,560 --> 01:49:02,160 Speaker 4: like when you're pulling out the sound effects when. 2289 01:49:02,080 --> 01:49:06,519 Speaker 1: You're great analogy. I'm an analogy guy. But uh, where's 2290 01:49:06,560 --> 01:49:08,120 Speaker 1: he at? Let me see what he's up. 2291 01:49:08,000 --> 01:49:11,400 Speaker 7: To these last he was an administrative person at Lensington 2292 01:49:11,520 --> 01:49:13,400 Speaker 7: School District one in South Carolina. 2293 01:49:13,439 --> 01:49:16,200 Speaker 3: I love it baby high School. Yeah. 2294 01:49:16,320 --> 01:49:20,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, probably getting paid a boat load too because he's viral. Hey, yeah, 2295 01:49:21,080 --> 01:49:23,320 Speaker 1: the guys cashing in. Let's go coach. 2296 01:49:23,479 --> 01:49:25,960 Speaker 4: Coastal Carolina, home of Isaiah likely. 2297 01:49:26,080 --> 01:49:32,240 Speaker 3: Isaiah like love Isaiah likely beast? Oh is this a 2298 01:49:32,320 --> 01:49:36,479 Speaker 3: coach Belichick? Yeah? Let's me and Jack should wait? Two hands? 2299 01:49:36,600 --> 01:49:38,240 Speaker 3: What do you want to be reporter? 2300 01:49:38,439 --> 01:49:40,920 Speaker 5: Or do you want to be Bill? Someone who wants 2301 01:49:40,960 --> 01:49:41,240 Speaker 5: to me Bill? 2302 01:49:41,320 --> 01:49:43,000 Speaker 4: I feel like the guy that does the best Bill impression. 2303 01:49:43,040 --> 01:49:43,639 Speaker 5: You want to be Bill? 2304 01:49:43,760 --> 01:49:44,280 Speaker 3: I'll be Bill. 2305 01:49:44,600 --> 01:49:45,639 Speaker 5: Do you want to be the reporter? 2306 01:49:46,360 --> 01:49:47,160 Speaker 3: Yeah? I'll be reported? 2307 01:49:47,240 --> 01:49:51,240 Speaker 4: Okay ready, Jewels, Yeah, your team has been successful for 2308 01:49:51,280 --> 01:49:53,240 Speaker 4: so long. How difficult is it to adjust to the 2309 01:49:53,240 --> 01:49:55,920 Speaker 4: adversity of Monday night's game and to get back on track? 2310 01:49:56,439 --> 01:49:58,400 Speaker 4: This team in this organization hasn't had these sort of 2311 01:49:58,439 --> 01:50:01,720 Speaker 4: issues in the past. Or we're on the Cincinnati You 2312 01:50:01,760 --> 01:50:02,920 Speaker 4: mentioned Tom Brady's age. 2313 01:50:02,960 --> 01:50:05,680 Speaker 1: Well, we're on to Cincinnati. Do you think having a 2314 01:50:05,720 --> 01:50:09,120 Speaker 1: third that we're on to Cincinnati? Nothing about the past, 2315 01:50:09,360 --> 01:50:13,960 Speaker 1: nothing about the future. Right now, we're preparing for Cincinnati. 2316 01:50:14,080 --> 01:50:14,599 Speaker 3: Do you think the. 2317 01:50:14,479 --> 01:50:15,639 Speaker 4: Talent you have here is good? 2318 01:50:15,680 --> 01:50:18,120 Speaker 1: We're getting ready for Cincinnati. 2319 01:50:18,240 --> 01:50:20,000 Speaker 4: Do you think you've done enough to help Tom Brady? 2320 01:50:20,200 --> 01:50:23,719 Speaker 1: We're getting ready for Cincinnati, That's what we're doing. 2321 01:50:26,040 --> 01:50:27,479 Speaker 4: And then I think we all know it ended up 2322 01:50:27,479 --> 01:50:31,320 Speaker 4: happening in that twenty fourteen season with the New England Patriots. 2323 01:50:31,520 --> 01:50:34,679 Speaker 3: Everyone that you're going to beat the Seattle Seahawks. 2324 01:50:34,760 --> 01:50:38,599 Speaker 7: I remember we had an important shoot that Tuesday after 2325 01:50:38,640 --> 01:50:41,760 Speaker 7: the Cincinnati game, and when you were playing, it was 2326 01:50:41,760 --> 01:50:46,040 Speaker 7: always like, hope the Pats fucking win, otherwise shoots getting canceled, 2327 01:50:46,400 --> 01:50:48,680 Speaker 7: and I remember being very happy that you guys kicked 2328 01:50:48,680 --> 01:50:50,680 Speaker 7: the ship out of the Bengals for that. 2329 01:50:50,680 --> 01:50:53,439 Speaker 5: Shit we had. Was it Google last, I don't know, 2330 01:50:53,600 --> 01:50:54,680 Speaker 5: it was later than that. 2331 01:50:55,400 --> 01:50:57,240 Speaker 3: Was it Coach Up? I don't know. 2332 01:50:57,439 --> 01:50:58,400 Speaker 5: I have to look that up because I. 2333 01:50:58,439 --> 01:51:04,599 Speaker 4: Just remember riding on the Cincinnati game forty three to seventeen. Baby, well, 2334 01:51:04,600 --> 01:51:06,320 Speaker 4: but now was Andy Dalton back then? 2335 01:51:06,560 --> 01:51:11,639 Speaker 1: Oh red rockets, Oh coach now in the media, Chatty Caddy. 2336 01:51:11,720 --> 01:51:15,719 Speaker 4: Now he Chatty Caddy A far cry from this guy. Oh, 2337 01:51:16,439 --> 01:51:17,400 Speaker 4: oh my gosh, coach. 2338 01:51:17,800 --> 01:51:19,040 Speaker 5: Do we have a favorite out of these? 2339 01:51:22,600 --> 01:51:24,160 Speaker 1: I like Danny Dennis Green. 2340 01:51:24,560 --> 01:51:27,920 Speaker 4: I like Danny Green. I think the best Danny Danny. 2341 01:51:27,920 --> 01:51:29,640 Speaker 4: I think it just had the most, It had the 2342 01:51:29,640 --> 01:51:32,960 Speaker 4: most passion behind it, It had the viger It felt 2343 01:51:32,960 --> 01:51:34,719 Speaker 4: so authentic, it was real. 2344 01:51:35,320 --> 01:51:35,759 Speaker 3: Man. 2345 01:51:35,880 --> 01:51:38,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know that one that that seems a little. 2346 01:51:38,280 --> 01:51:39,479 Speaker 3: Yeah he was posturing. 2347 01:51:39,560 --> 01:51:43,400 Speaker 7: I think, yeah, Arizona team was dogshit and dogshit for 2348 01:51:43,400 --> 01:51:46,479 Speaker 7: a while, Like then they should have won that game. 2349 01:51:46,600 --> 01:51:51,400 Speaker 1: Dennis Green is legitimately like really like hurt and mad 2350 01:51:51,439 --> 01:51:51,840 Speaker 1: about this. 2351 01:51:51,960 --> 01:51:53,559 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, that's a. 2352 01:51:53,520 --> 01:51:55,320 Speaker 4: Man that just blew a thirteen point lead in the. 2353 01:51:55,400 --> 01:51:57,160 Speaker 1: Jim Mora is just like he's over it. 2354 01:51:57,240 --> 01:51:59,200 Speaker 5: He might be my favorite just because I just will 2355 01:51:59,240 --> 01:51:59,759 Speaker 5: some cod. 2356 01:52:00,120 --> 01:52:05,920 Speaker 1: He's conceded to be. He's done singletary growing experience. 2357 01:52:06,479 --> 01:52:07,200 Speaker 3: I guess I. 2358 01:52:07,120 --> 01:52:09,639 Speaker 7: Will say, Jim Mora in the studio when we're hanging 2359 01:52:09,680 --> 01:52:12,280 Speaker 7: around than that house, if you will, like occasionally I'll 2360 01:52:12,320 --> 01:52:14,639 Speaker 7: just do a playoffs. And then from the other room 2361 01:52:14,920 --> 01:52:17,400 Speaker 7: often Jack will be like, you're playing it within the game, 2362 01:52:18,120 --> 01:52:20,800 Speaker 7: or we're just trying to win a game. 2363 01:52:21,000 --> 01:52:23,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, don't talk to me about playoffs. 2364 01:52:23,360 --> 01:52:25,519 Speaker 4: These are all like the fact that these have such 2365 01:52:25,600 --> 01:52:28,080 Speaker 4: staying power in the sports lexicon, or. 2366 01:52:28,080 --> 01:52:31,240 Speaker 1: Even just herm is just frustrated. Is just frustrated, Like 2367 01:52:31,439 --> 01:52:34,000 Speaker 1: with this, he's like the question. He let the question 2368 01:52:34,120 --> 01:52:35,040 Speaker 1: get to him a little bit. 2369 01:52:35,160 --> 01:52:35,680 Speaker 4: Oh big time. 2370 01:52:35,760 --> 01:52:39,360 Speaker 3: That's that. And then Daven Bennett, I don't know, was 2371 01:52:39,400 --> 01:52:42,240 Speaker 3: he trying to go viral? It seemed like it. I mean, 2372 01:52:42,280 --> 01:52:44,120 Speaker 3: I don't think he was, but it just seemed like it. 2373 01:52:44,720 --> 01:52:46,559 Speaker 1: What do you guys think? And you want to hear 2374 01:52:46,600 --> 01:52:48,040 Speaker 1: about that in the questions? 2375 01:52:48,960 --> 01:52:50,360 Speaker 5: I can only imagine. 2376 01:52:50,880 --> 01:52:54,920 Speaker 1: And then Bill like, this isn't really a rant. This 2377 01:52:55,120 --> 01:52:58,120 Speaker 1: is a word. This is three words. We're on the Cincinnati. Yeah, 2378 01:52:58,800 --> 01:53:01,040 Speaker 1: this is considered I think in building. 2379 01:53:01,439 --> 01:53:04,280 Speaker 5: Rant is a word that we can change. Yeah, most 2380 01:53:04,360 --> 01:53:04,640 Speaker 5: like them. 2381 01:53:04,680 --> 01:53:07,200 Speaker 3: He loves yes now. 2382 01:53:07,880 --> 01:53:09,960 Speaker 1: I've heard him reference it a couple of times. I 2383 01:53:10,479 --> 01:53:13,040 Speaker 1: listened to one on his ship. He's I think he's good. 2384 01:53:13,120 --> 01:53:14,720 Speaker 4: People want us to do this game too, by the way, 2385 01:53:15,040 --> 01:53:16,960 Speaker 4: we should. They want to do the I think that's 2386 01:53:16,960 --> 01:53:18,280 Speaker 4: almost got to be like a two hand er. You 2387 01:53:18,320 --> 01:53:21,400 Speaker 4: do the week before and then you do the Kansas 2388 01:53:21,439 --> 01:53:22,559 Speaker 4: City game, and then you do that one. 2389 01:53:22,560 --> 01:53:22,960 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. 2390 01:53:23,320 --> 01:53:25,360 Speaker 5: Kansas City was the Kansas City the game is before. 2391 01:53:25,439 --> 01:53:28,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so you do maybe your reference that one 2392 01:53:28,360 --> 01:53:30,040 Speaker 4: heavy and then you do this sincy blowout. I don't 2393 01:53:30,080 --> 01:53:32,200 Speaker 4: know what you technically consider the game that we do. 2394 01:53:32,960 --> 01:53:33,479 Speaker 3: It's annoyed. 2395 01:53:33,560 --> 01:53:35,680 Speaker 7: I can only imagine all these are two thousands what 2396 01:53:36,280 --> 01:53:39,320 Speaker 7: and I don't know how coach post game press conferences work, 2397 01:53:39,520 --> 01:53:44,360 Speaker 7: game whatever, whatever one he wants to do some Navy 2398 01:53:44,479 --> 01:53:46,360 Speaker 7: Army game, I would do anything. 2399 01:53:46,439 --> 01:53:48,080 Speaker 3: He'll do that for a million percent. 2400 01:53:48,600 --> 01:53:55,200 Speaker 12: Lacrosse Wesley and lacrosse Cherokees versus the goddamn Apache lacrosse game. 2401 01:53:56,160 --> 01:53:59,160 Speaker 12: We should we should, we should tap into a sixteen thirty. 2402 01:54:00,320 --> 01:54:01,080 Speaker 3: I'm three. 2403 01:54:01,160 --> 01:54:02,680 Speaker 7: We should happen to AI and did like what a 2404 01:54:02,760 --> 01:54:05,320 Speaker 7: Vincelambardi like post game would be. 2405 01:54:05,479 --> 01:54:07,640 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I know there'd probably be some like 2406 01:54:08,160 --> 01:54:09,639 Speaker 4: some crazy old old man. 2407 01:54:09,880 --> 01:54:13,160 Speaker 7: Flying around Vincelambardi like if they did post game press 2408 01:54:13,200 --> 01:54:14,639 Speaker 7: conferences and there was video. 2409 01:54:14,680 --> 01:54:19,479 Speaker 3: Ye outside it outside an't gonna counter up follow. 2410 01:54:19,680 --> 01:54:22,559 Speaker 4: Hey, I don't know why I made him in nineteen 2411 01:54:22,600 --> 01:54:23,480 Speaker 4: twenties gangster. 2412 01:54:23,360 --> 01:54:23,880 Speaker 3: Because he is. 2413 01:54:25,760 --> 01:54:27,599 Speaker 4: I'm looking at this box score of this Cardinals game, 2414 01:54:27,640 --> 01:54:29,200 Speaker 4: Matt Liner versus Rex Grossman. 2415 01:54:29,520 --> 01:54:32,680 Speaker 3: What a game? She's Louise, Matt Lioner, Man. 2416 01:54:32,680 --> 01:54:34,880 Speaker 4: And Cam Bolden twelve catches one hundred and thirty six 2417 01:54:35,000 --> 01:54:36,120 Speaker 4: yards of ads. 2418 01:54:36,560 --> 01:54:38,600 Speaker 1: It's Matt Lioner's son's birthday here soon. 2419 01:54:39,240 --> 01:54:43,400 Speaker 3: I just did like an email thing for it. How 2420 01:54:43,400 --> 01:54:46,680 Speaker 3: would you possibly what did you just say, Matt Liner? Yeah? 2421 01:54:46,760 --> 01:54:47,760 Speaker 3: Why why do you know it? 2422 01:54:48,560 --> 01:54:50,680 Speaker 1: Because I literally just had to do an email for 2423 01:54:51,680 --> 01:54:53,760 Speaker 1: like a you know, like a well wishous thing. 2424 01:54:54,000 --> 01:54:55,840 Speaker 5: Oh, I actually send an email A nice guy. 2425 01:54:56,480 --> 01:54:59,400 Speaker 1: Whatever I send, it could be it could have I 2426 01:54:59,480 --> 01:55:01,320 Speaker 1: think it's uh or graduation. 2427 01:55:01,600 --> 01:55:04,840 Speaker 3: He's a stud player. He is. He's getting some looks man. 2428 01:55:05,560 --> 01:55:08,280 Speaker 3: But man, that was fun. That was a fun episode 2429 01:55:08,280 --> 01:55:08,640 Speaker 3: with Vernon. 2430 01:55:09,040 --> 01:55:10,120 Speaker 5: One thing quick on Vernon. 2431 01:55:11,160 --> 01:55:13,480 Speaker 7: When we book a guest, it's often like there's a 2432 01:55:13,520 --> 01:55:15,280 Speaker 7: there's a little bit of a dance on figuring out 2433 01:55:15,320 --> 01:55:18,480 Speaker 7: the game. Oftentimes it's asking them what game they want 2434 01:55:18,520 --> 01:55:19,840 Speaker 7: to do, But sometimes you know, you have to be 2435 01:55:19,960 --> 01:55:21,640 Speaker 7: limited with the amount of communications just to kind of 2436 01:55:21,680 --> 01:55:22,360 Speaker 7: point it in and. 2437 01:55:22,400 --> 01:55:23,040 Speaker 5: Get them locked in. 2438 01:55:23,520 --> 01:55:25,080 Speaker 7: And with this one, he we asked the game and 2439 01:55:25,160 --> 01:55:28,480 Speaker 7: literally in seconds he had this game and we're like, yes, 2440 01:55:28,920 --> 01:55:29,400 Speaker 7: he knows this. 2441 01:55:29,600 --> 01:55:32,560 Speaker 5: He knows the fucking assignment and we were so pumped 2442 01:55:32,600 --> 01:55:33,600 Speaker 5: to do this game with Vernon. 2443 01:55:33,760 --> 01:55:36,280 Speaker 1: It's clearly prepared. You hear what he takes his acting career. 2444 01:55:37,080 --> 01:55:39,839 Speaker 1: He probably did some serious Earnie homework on this goddamn 2445 01:55:39,880 --> 01:55:41,080 Speaker 1: podcast before he came here. 2446 01:55:41,720 --> 01:55:42,600 Speaker 3: He's Ernie ship. 2447 01:55:42,920 --> 01:55:44,720 Speaker 4: I didn't I didn't see to prepare. 2448 01:55:45,200 --> 01:55:47,400 Speaker 1: I mean, he had some impressions, he must have. I 2449 01:55:47,440 --> 01:55:49,200 Speaker 1: don't know if he's an impression guy. I know he's 2450 01:55:49,200 --> 01:55:52,000 Speaker 1: an actor, but he knows that we do impressions, so 2451 01:55:52,160 --> 01:55:54,200 Speaker 1: he came in light. I mean that was that was 2452 01:55:54,240 --> 01:55:56,080 Speaker 1: some fire, straight fire. 2453 01:55:56,400 --> 01:55:57,160 Speaker 3: Let it rip baby. 2454 01:55:57,240 --> 01:56:00,560 Speaker 4: Shout out Vernon, thanks for coming to those watch plan 2455 01:56:00,720 --> 01:56:04,520 Speaker 4: b playing b Baby seventy two hours, seventy two hours, 2456 01:56:04,800 --> 01:56:05,240 Speaker 4: two hours and. 2457 01:56:06,960 --> 01:56:08,040 Speaker 3: Seventy two hours or. 2458 01:56:08,440 --> 01:56:10,640 Speaker 4: Or no, uh that was the other one. 2459 01:56:10,680 --> 01:56:13,040 Speaker 3: This horror. My guy, He's in so many got. 2460 01:56:14,800 --> 01:56:22,360 Speaker 1: Bruce Willis three movies memoirs starting based love It And 2461 01:56:22,480 --> 01:56:25,080 Speaker 1: that's been another episode of Games with Names presented by 2462 01:56:25,280 --> 01:56:30,880 Speaker 1: Jamison Irish Whiskey. Subscribe on Apple podcasts, Spotify, or you 2463 01:56:30,960 --> 01:56:32,520 Speaker 1: ever listen to your podcast. 2464 01:56:32,720 --> 01:56:34,959 Speaker 3: Comment a game you want us to do and remember 2465 01:56:35,520 --> 01:56:36,000 Speaker 3: and review. 2466 01:56:37,400 --> 01:56:40,839 Speaker 1: Remember to follow games with names on YouTube, Instagram, x TikTok, 2467 01:56:40,920 --> 01:56:44,640 Speaker 1: and snapchat. Leave a message on the old hotline that 2468 01:56:44,880 --> 01:56:47,000 Speaker 1: is four two four two nine one two. 2469 01:56:46,920 --> 01:56:50,920 Speaker 3: Two nine zero. See you guys next week. 2470 01:56:52,760 --> 01:56:55,959 Speaker 1: Games and Names and production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts 2471 01:56:56,000 --> 01:56:58,280 Speaker 1: from my heart Radio, visit day i heeart Radio app, 2472 01:56:58,400 --> 01:57:01,920 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcast