1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: How do look at the roster and what we have 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: in the coaching staff. We should win games. We have 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: to performed though. We're gonna hold our to the high 4 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: standard no matter what happens. And on defense is gonna 5 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: do what they do and the last time I heard 6 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: they can't win a telescope points. This is the Cleveland 7 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: Browns Preview Show. Your chance to get an in depth 8 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: preview of the week ahead in Maria. You're listening to 9 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: the University Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio Network. Here are your hosts, 10 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: Kim Carmen named Gerard Cherry. A win against Tampa and 11 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 1: Cleveland win in Houston on Sunday against the Texans. Folks, 12 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: your Browns have gone back to back and this Sunday 13 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: they head to the Queen City sit Sinnati to try 14 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: to sweep the Bengals. In good evening, friends, Can Carmen 15 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: alongside of Gerard Cherry. It is the Cleveland Browns Preview 16 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: Show all along the University Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio Network. Gerard, 17 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: good evening, friend, Kenneth, you're sounding good. I'm sounding good. 18 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: It's time to go with four downs. First down. Everybody's 19 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: getting over the crud. My friend, My goodness, Grace, she's 20 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: gotta watch yourself out there. My goodness. First down, though 21 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: problems were watching themselves. They got themselves a nice win 22 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: for the first time in the Browns have won back 23 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: to back games as they knock off the Texas. Wasn't 24 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: the prettiest game, but a win's a win. What do 25 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 1: you take away from that win? On Sunday against Houston, 26 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: We'll talk about DeShawn Watson in second down, So everybody 27 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: but DeShawn go. Win is a win, and no, it 28 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: was not pretty, but at the same time, what you 29 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: want to take from that win is that you saw 30 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: example of what happens when you have two phases out 31 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: of three, dominating two phases, contributing two phases, taking advantage 32 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: of turnovers and mistakes made by a poor team in 33 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: the Texas. So what you take from it is that 34 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: the defense is capable of creating turnovers and that the 35 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: special teams is creating well capable rather of creating explosive plays. 36 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: Because DPJ he certainly deserved that award, and it was 37 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: building up to a ken of him finally breaking up 38 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: punt ear because the previous weeks he looked really well 39 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: as well doing it, but never to the magnitude of 40 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: what he did on Sunday. But again, you only can 41 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: play who's on your roster or your schedule rather and 42 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: they did just that. So I was again not saying 43 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: it was a pretty game, but you got the job done. 44 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what the Browns director of football Communications, 45 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: Dan Murphy, who he's still a young man, but he's 46 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: been with the organization longer than anybody, it seems, He'll 47 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: tell you historically, the Browns go down to Houston and 48 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 1: it just does not go their way. They run into 49 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: It's something about I don't know, if they wake up 50 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,679 Speaker 1: on the wrong side of the bed. They run into 51 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: a buzz saw any time they go to Houston. I 52 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: think this has gotta be I mean, we, you and 53 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: I have been broadcasting Brown's programming for ten years together. 54 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: This has to be their first win in Houston. This 55 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: has to be their first win in Houston. And since 56 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: I've been on the air in Cleveland for eleven years, 57 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 1: I think this has to be their first win in 58 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: Houston that I can remember. I don't know if they've 59 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: ever one in Houston while I've been on the air. 60 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: My goodness. I mean it is usually just pulling teeth 61 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: to try to get a win at the Houston Texas. 62 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: The last time, no, they haven't done it. Two thousand 63 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 1: note the last time they did it. I beg your pardon, 64 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: I tell a lie two thousand five January. Second, the 65 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: Browns one at Houston. Other than that, I mean, goodness, gracious, 66 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: I was a freshman in college back then, Gerard. I 67 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: mean that that was at the end of my freshman 68 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: my first semester of college. Girard, that's the last time 69 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: the Browns won down in Houston. So it's good to 70 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: get that off your back, certainly. And I understand why. 71 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: If you look at the banners that were in the 72 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: raptors at the stadium. They were a good team from 73 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: twenty basically throughout the presidents and shop had a good 74 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: run and J. J. Watt Andrew Johnson would he represented 75 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: so nah Arian Foster. So they had some ballers. So 76 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: I'll take what I can get down in Houston. I 77 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: gotta be honest with you, Texas to say it down. Second, 78 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: Shaun Watson twelve or thirty one yards interception and seven 79 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: or twenty one with rushing. He rushed it seven times, 80 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: got twenty one yards, got sacked a couple of times. 81 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: It takes it away from there. It's been seven hundred 82 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: days since he last played. Looking for a little in 83 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 1: the words of Guns and Rows, there is a little 84 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: bit of patients out there from everybody. What did you think, Well, 85 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 1: you saw signs of what makes him special, but you 86 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: also saw signs of rusts like no other seven hundred days. 87 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: That's gonna show its effects. And also when you couple 88 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 1: that with the fact that this is like week twelve 89 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: and his is week one for him, he's had a 90 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: great disadvantage to speed of the game and being used 91 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: to playing the game is in the favor of everyone 92 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: on the football field except for Deshaun Watson. So he 93 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: was the least prepared from a physical and mental standpoint, 94 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: though he was preparing than anyone on the football field. 95 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: And he's playing the most important position on the football field. 96 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: So that explains a lot of the performance. And Nathan 97 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: says something that was very resolute earlier today in Cleveland 98 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: Brown's Daily, and he's absolutely right. John Watson struggled on 99 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: his first game of the season. This is historic for him, 100 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: so we should not be that surprised. Um I I 101 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: thought it might be a bit of a struggle. I 102 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: didn't the losing it in their dirt that type of thing. 103 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: I think that that can be corrected, um I thought 104 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: honestly going into the game, I know you and I 105 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: kind of debated what they should do. Should he go 106 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: for should he go big fly and throw for three 107 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: hundred three and or fifty yards? Or should they turn 108 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 1: the ball off, turn about round and hand the ball off. 109 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: And you know, I'm a conservative when it comes to 110 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: the offense. I like to turn around and hand the 111 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: ball off with a guy like Nick Jubb and Kareem 112 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 1: Hunt back there, so I would wouldn't have had a 113 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: problem with that. They did run the ball considerably on 114 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: Sunday against against Houston, and I mean the defense. Gotta 115 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: give credit to the defense. They showed up. They played well, 116 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: created turnovers and special teams. Donovan people's showings. He had 117 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: the great punt return for a touchdown, so they were 118 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: able to help him out there. But I was surprised 119 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: at I thought it was gonna be less rusty. But 120 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 1: when I thought about and I go, okay, this is 121 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: about what we kind of looked at. I mean, seven 122 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: hundred days. It's a long time, so you gotta get 123 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: that first one under your belt and then get going 124 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: against Cincinnati this coming Sunday. We'll preview the Bengals coming 125 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: up here. In just a moment, we get the third 126 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: down down injury bug hitting the Browns big time this week. 127 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: They lose ony Taki Talkie for the season a torn 128 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 1: a c L. That's a big loss for the defense. 129 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: The linebacker room has been just decimated by injuries. Girard 130 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: next man up. The Browns signed Renji Raglan their active roster. 131 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: He's from the Las Vegas practice squad six two to 132 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: fifty two. He's in his seventh year already. I remember 133 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: when he was drafted second round from the Buffalo Bills 134 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: back in two What does this guy gotta do to 135 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: get caught up to speed here and be able to 136 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 1: contribute for this Brown's defense against what is going to 137 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 1: be a very potent rush from the Cincinnati Bengals. I 138 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 1: should say passing offense, but I just look at us 139 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: a full on title wave of offense. Well, they definitely 140 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: have an office unit that's capable running a football when 141 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: they're committed to it, and certainly we know the passing 142 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: of the football is their calling card and what they 143 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: do best. And Joe Burrow, heck, he'll even sneak in 144 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: there and running football on you as well because he's 145 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: sneaky fast. So their complete offensive unit. They have everything 146 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: you possibly want from that standpoint. So for ragling is 147 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: really simple. Learn the burbage, learn the terminology in practice 148 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: this week, show that you know where the heck you're 149 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: supposed to be. And if you do that and you 150 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: don't show any signs of mistakes, you can find yourself 151 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: on the football field. But I do take note the 152 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: fact that he's not your typical linebacker that we employ. 153 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: He is six to two d and two pounds. And 154 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: what that says to me, Ken, isn't admittance that we 155 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: need larger, bigger guys in the middle. And you're right, 156 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: the linebacker in particular middle linebacker position has taken it 157 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: has been beat down. These are the guys that are 158 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: getting hurt. So that speaks for itself. So yes, right 159 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: there in the middle, you want to a run stopper, 160 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: and he certainly fits that bill. Earlier today of the 161 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: team plays Anthony Schwartz on injured reserve with a concussion. 162 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,119 Speaker 1: They picked up Jalen Darden off waivers from the Tampa 163 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers. We him just a week and a half 164 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: ago when Tampa Bay was in town of the Browns 165 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: gonna win over the Buccaneers originally select a fourth round 166 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: oh for Tampa Bay back in twenty one games. You're 167 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: looking for some returning from him. You know, Donovan People's 168 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: Jones did a great job on Sunday. Obviously it's the 169 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: first kick return or upon returned for a touch and 170 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: I think we've had since what Travis Benjamin. I want 171 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: to stay back in if my memory doesn't escape me here, 172 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: but they want to make sure Donavan People's Jones is 173 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: good to go when it comes to being the number 174 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: two wide receiver behind the Marii Cooper. Could we see 175 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: Jalen Darden coming up this weekend, Well, you certainly can. 176 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: But I also believe that DPJ can continue to do 177 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: it because Taik Hill Lord knows he doesn't and doesn't 178 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: as a high level, and he's one of the most 179 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: productive receivers in the game. So it's possible to both. 180 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: So it's not like you have to eliminate one in 181 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 1: or the half. Success with the other for donmind people's jones, 182 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: and we're always looking for someone. You want to have 183 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: that guy because we've seen how important it is to 184 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: have a returner, have that covered, because we've languaged in 185 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: that in that part of the game because of the 186 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: fact we've never found someone else truly committed to it. 187 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 1: So now we're starting to have progress with love. We're 188 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: starting with forward rather, we're starting to have progress with DPJ. 189 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: So with that in mind, I get why you bring 190 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: a guy in because you always want to take a 191 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: look at someone who might have some potential time for 192 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: fourth down. Fourth we go to Cincinnati. The Bengals are 193 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: eight and four on the season. They haven't lost since 194 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: the Browns game on Monday night on Halloween. They're actually 195 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: the only team to beat the Bengals in their past 196 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: eight games. This offense has been fantastic. They welcomed in 197 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: Kansas City last week, took care of business against Kansas City, 198 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: and I'm back and forth matchup Joe Burrow three and 199 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: oh against the Kansas City Chiefs in his career, but 200 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: oh and four against the against the Cleveland Browns. Girand 201 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: I gotta ask you first and foremost, what's the biggest 202 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: challenge going through the division the second time around. Actually, Ken, 203 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 1: the funny part about it is is actually easier because 204 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: you know the opponent, they know you. It's really comes 205 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 1: it really comes down to who's gonna be there more aggressive, 206 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: who's gonna make few mistakes, and who's gonna go out 207 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: there and the process of all doing all that executing 208 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: because you know the opponent is actually easiest week of studying. 209 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: You look back on what you did wrong, you look 210 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: back on what you did right, and what they're trying 211 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: doing what they have been doing. But I will say 212 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: this about Cincinnati what I anticipate them doing, just as 213 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 1: a little key for you, They're gonna try and do 214 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: a lot of things where they've forced to hand with 215 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: us and to hurry up and tempo standpoint, because we 216 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: have shown signs that we have problems with adjusted when 217 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: teams go up tempo from a substitution standpoint, and they've 218 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: been pretty good running it. So yeah, the Browns are 219 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: definitely gonna have their hands full coming up on Sunday 220 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: against the Cincinnati Bengals. Will preview more coming up here 221 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: and a bit. 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So much more coming up later on in 229 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: this show, Draw and I will go around the league. 230 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: Will welcome in the voice here Cleveland Browns Jim Donovan. 231 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: But coming up next, Brown's defensive end, Chase Winovit's gonna 232 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: join us. We'll talk about two and what's to come, 233 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: especially on Sunday as the Browns head to Sitcinnati to 234 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: take on the Bengals. 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In a preview, we welcome in Brown's 251 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: defensive end. Chase winn of it. You joined us right 252 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: now on the hotline, Chase, thanks for joining us, Thank 253 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: you for having me all right. First and foremost is 254 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: Michigan gonna beat TCU? Coming up on New Year's Eve? 255 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: Does a one legged duck swimming a circle? Does a 256 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: one legged duck swimming a circle? The answers, yeah, I've 257 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,839 Speaker 1: never seen a one legged duck. I wouldn't know. You 258 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: gotta get out more. I try to get out as 259 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: much as I can. Chase but I mean, it's so difficult, Chase. 260 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: What if it's joining us? It's true, Chase, what if 261 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: it's joining us here on the show? How have you 262 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: enjoyed your time in Cleveland so far? Chase? Well, obviously 263 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: I wish that was injury free and everything went swimmingly 264 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: on that front. But I'll tell you what. I've really 265 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: enjoyed my time here. I love the coaching that I'm receiving. 266 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: Coach Kiffin is coaching me up every day, help me 267 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: work on new techniques. Uh. The my teammates in general, 268 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: they've been awesome. It's been a been a real joy 269 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,719 Speaker 1: for me to be here. The fans have been been outstanding. 270 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 1: It's like, like I said, obviously you want things to 271 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: be perfect, you want to win every game. However, the 272 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,839 Speaker 1: guys are working hard as am I and Uh, I'm 273 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: really enjoying my time here. And Chase not football related questions, 274 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: but I have to ask, man, what made you decide 275 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: to cut off the golden locks? So as most people know, 276 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: I've used to that followed me at any point in 277 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: my career. It's like, you know, I had my hair 278 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,719 Speaker 1: for about seven eight years and Uh, I was up 279 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: in in Portsmouth, New Hampshire. And it was just like 280 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: a normal Tuesday night, you know, plan on waking up 281 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: for for workouts the next day or whatever. And uh, 282 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: I went to bed and I had a dream that 283 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 1: it was time for me to cut my hair. And 284 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: I was like just like so vivid. It was like, 285 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: you know, at the end of my my journey, you know, 286 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: almost like uh, you know, I'm back to the place 287 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 1: that I had embarked on this this uh this question 288 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: source from and uh, just when cut it? Yeah, how long? 289 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: How long did you have long hair? Like I said, 290 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: seven eight years? I think, Oh my goodness, gracious. What 291 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: did your family say, Chase whenever I cut it? Yeah, well, 292 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: I called my mom. That's the many person I told. 293 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: I was just like, hey, you know, I had this 294 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: dream last night I'm going to cut my hair. And 295 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: She's like, okay, cool, I can't wait, send me a picture. 296 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, people were pretty shocked that when I went 297 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: into the facilities. Uh, it was like, like I said, 298 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: I don't know exactly the day I cut it, Maybe 299 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: it was like a Friday. I went to the facilities 300 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: on Monday to like show them that I've been working out, 301 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: like you know, I'm strong and ready to run, like, um, 302 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: this is on the Patriots and uh when I got 303 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: in there, you know, it's like everyone's like whoa, like 304 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: kind of shocked taking them back, and uh, the Grim 305 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: Reaper as they call him, the person that like lets 306 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: you know that you know, usually bad news. Uh that 307 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: he He's like, hey, you know, Belichick wants to speak 308 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: to you. So I was like, okay, interesting, you know, 309 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: maybe wants to see my new haircut or something. And 310 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: he called me in and he just said, you know, hey, 311 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: you know we're trading you to the Browns, and uh, 312 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: I was a little taken. Aback. I just asked him. 313 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: I was like, you know because because the haircut. Uh, 314 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: I was just like, you know, what the heck? I 315 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: guess he wasn't a fan. Did he think you sent 316 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: somebody else in for you or was it was it? 317 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: Did he know it was you? Even with the short 318 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: air Yeah, I think he had to do a double 319 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: tape for sure. Chase one if it's joining us here 320 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: on the show. So the injuries have been frustrating obviously. 321 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: Can can you describe, you know, just what you've been 322 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: going through here because I know you've been wanting to 323 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: get on the field. You finally did get on the 324 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: field here, but what have you been having to go through, 325 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: just you know, with the injuries and having to make 326 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: sure that you're ready to go and go for this 327 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: bronze defense because they definitely missed you. I'll tell you what, 328 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: Adversity is going to strike at at some point along 329 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: the journey. It doesn't matter who you are, doesn't matter 330 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: what you do, if you you put your mind to something, 331 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: and you know, playing me NFL is obviously not easy. Um, 332 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: adversity is gonna strike. And unfortunately it's it's struck. You know. 333 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: It's like running is super important and and when you 334 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: you bust a wheel, it's like, you know you can 335 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: the only thing you can do is work as hard 336 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: as you can every day to uh to try to 337 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: you know, bring it back to full health. And um, 338 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: it's been been a crazy process just learning about my 339 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: body and learning about you know, like focusing on things 340 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: that maybe aren't necessarily so physical, but you know, on 341 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: on the mental side of the football game. UM, so 342 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: it's I've definitely I feel that I've made a lot 343 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: of progress, um, just just in in several of those 344 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: planes as I spoke about um. However, it is really frustrating. 345 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: That's just the the you know, the truth of the matter. 346 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: But I'm not to be deterred. You know. It's gonna 347 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: take some resilience, it's gonna take some perseverance, and I'm 348 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: just gonna keep attacking it. It's like, at the end 349 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: of the day, it's like you if you zoom out 350 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: a little bit um and think big picture, It's like, 351 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: this is gonna hopefully inspire some people to you know, 352 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:06,479 Speaker 1: to keep carrying on and you know, showing that they can, 353 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 1: they can to fight through um, you know, adversity and 354 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 1: and injuries and and just come back and hopefully be 355 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 1: better than ever. And what if you plan for the pages. 356 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: You're very familiar with the concept of complimentary football because 357 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: Bill preaches it, teaches it every chance he gets. And 358 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 1: with that being said, Chase, you played a pivotal role 359 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: in that touchdown in acception return that fields get. Take 360 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 1: us through that play and what were you thinking as 361 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: it transpired from the point of view blocking and batting 362 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: the ball in the air. Yeah, I've seen on film 363 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: that they there are certain tendencies in terms of like 364 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: the boot, especially to the defenses left the quarterbacks right. 365 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: Uh So I figured that was definitely gonna be a play. 366 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: And whenever I felt the tight end release and I 367 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: felt the running back to me, I was just like one, 368 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: It's like it's a little suspicious, you know, it's like 369 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: a doubt they're gonna have a run him back trying 370 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: to block me. And uh, once I you know, I 371 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 1: kind of flew by him, I was like, Okay, this 372 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 1: guy is about to get you know, basically blind blindsided 373 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: talking about the quarterback, uh or you know, there's something 374 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 1: going on behind me. And at that point in time, 375 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: it's like the running back was sure enough, he was 376 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 1: right there and and I could see him. I'm trying 377 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: to match his eye, so like my my my focus 378 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 1: and my gaze is on him and just just seeing 379 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: what he's seeing. And so that at that point in time, 380 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 1: I'm matching my hand to where he's trying to throw 381 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 1: the ball. And if you like, if you look at 382 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: the end zone copy, you could see like my hand 383 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: like kind of like doing that like a sort of mimic, 384 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: uh mimicry of what he's trying to do. Ensure enough 385 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: he he threw it and I got my hand on it, 386 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: popped it up in the air. I was looking on 387 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,479 Speaker 1: the fields made a great place. Now I get out 388 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: of the air and scored the Tuddy. I gotta love it, Chase, 389 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: what if it's us here on the show? Fantastic stuff? 390 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: I gotta ask you. Kevin Stefanski seems very even keel 391 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 1: with us. Um. What's it like to play for a 392 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 1: guy who who seems to have kind of well, I 393 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: don't know, Belichick has an aura around him. Uh. Jim 394 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: Harbaugh seems like a madman. What's it like to play 395 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: for someone who's a little bit more even keel as 396 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: opposed to the other two. The first thing I'll say 397 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,919 Speaker 1: is that when you compare two things, you always have 398 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 1: less something's getting uh, something's getting demoted or denigraded or 399 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: or something along those lines. When you compare two things, 400 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: you always have less um and so I can't really 401 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 1: like compare them because they're just different coaches, different philosophies, 402 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 1: et cetera. However, it's awesome playing for for coach Savanski. 403 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: He is um. You know. I think adversity definitely introduces 404 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: you to who you are, you know, it kind of 405 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:54,199 Speaker 1: it kind of flashes things out and just experiencing, you 406 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 1: know a little like the tumultuous bump we had just 407 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: losing games, you know, several games as we did. Um, 408 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: he didn't panic, you know, he didn't. He wasn't he 409 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 1: wasn't sweating like at least at least to us, it 410 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: didn't come across that way. Um. He stayed poised, and 411 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: UM he just like, let's go want to know you know, 412 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: that was that was a big message he had addressed 413 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 1: to us, and um, just bringing things back to the president. 414 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: He seems like he, uh, you know, it really does 415 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 1: a great job with all that stuff, and it's it's 416 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: a real pleasure playing for him and Chase. One of 417 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: the things that we talked a lot about, especially when 418 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: the defense was having his issues and struggles, was this 419 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: idea of gap integrity and run fits and what that represents. 420 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: It appears to me the past two weeks the defense 421 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: is kind of felt things out, kind of like in 422 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,479 Speaker 1: a boxing match. In the first round, two guys are 423 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 1: throwing jabs, but then we figured out were playing much 424 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: better brand of run defense. What has been the reason 425 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 1: behind that and what's taking place with you guys on 426 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: the front. Yeah, I think that there's there's always things 427 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:53,959 Speaker 1: that need to be worked through. This is the National 428 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: Football League. So if a team does something well, it's 429 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: like other teams are gonna look at those plays and 430 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: how they set up those plays personnel wise and try 431 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 1: to mimic them. And if you know, if teams have success, 432 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: it's like, we got a great coaching staff too, and 433 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna adapt. And the coaching staff has done a 434 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: great job putting players and in the right fits, being 435 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: creative with how they use their players, and uh yeah, 436 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 1: so I think we're just doing a great job all 437 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: around these past couple of weeks, especially Chase, We thank 438 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: you very much for the time, good health, we wish 439 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: you and good luck for the rest of this season. Awesome, 440 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: thank you guys for having me on. Thank you Chase, 441 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 1: one of its Brown's defensive end joining us in the 442 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: players Spotlight be a part of the most passionate fan 443 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: base in the NFL. 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Now after his loss, talking about the Bills, 467 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: where would you put them? They one of the top 468 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 1: two teams in the a f C, top two teams 469 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 1: in a f C. With that injury, you're gonna probably 470 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 1: have to elevate Kansas City ahead of them and say 471 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 1: the Bengals right now at number one? So I would say, no, 472 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: they're number three. Man. Okay, wait a minute, who'd you 473 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 1: put ahead of them? Who was the number two? One 474 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,679 Speaker 1: and two? Chiefs? Bengals chieftain bank Boy, Well, the Bengals 475 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:27,719 Speaker 1: are red hot. I'm gonna hold off in Bengals just 476 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: a bit. I know they're red hot. Let me hold 477 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: off for just a minute. We'll find out here soon. 478 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 1: We'll find out here. Suit coming up? Uh? Should the 479 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: league look into the Cowboys? Well? This is interesting here? 480 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: Should the league look into the Cowboys? After news leaked 481 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 1: about oh b J's visit and physical and concerns that 482 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: the team has that his knee is not progressed enough 483 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 1: to ensure he would play before mid January? Well, I mean, 484 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: with that information leaking, and I'm not surprised by that, 485 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: it hurts O'Dell's financial few, no doubt about it. But 486 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 1: I'm not surprised at the difference with that leak and 487 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 1: other teams to share this information anyway. It's not like 488 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: they don't call each other up and say what you 489 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: get in report. It's no different than the combine and 490 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: share information. So is that a hip of violation? And 491 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 1: I don't know. I gotta remember it should be. But 492 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 1: here's the thing, Ney to know, there's no HR for 493 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,239 Speaker 1: the players that play in the National Football League. HM, 494 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: so different. I was having a simple water I I 495 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: because you're thinking about he doesn't like I know, if 496 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 1: he played for the Cowboys, then there and he was 497 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: on the active roster. There has to be a report. 498 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: I mean, that's information that has to be given, as 499 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: we we found out with Bill Belichick. But he is 500 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 1: a free agent. So if you said, well he failed 501 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: the physical or something like that, well, but I don't 502 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: know if you can just have that information out there. 503 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: But here's the thing, though, can these guys talk on 504 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: top of that? These guys, hey, man, what happened? It's 505 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: one of your buddies that you coach with another place 506 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 1: or with the college with playball with even you never know, 507 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: but you just talk. Coaches talk do a lot talking. 508 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: So when you see guys beginning to games, they're talking 509 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: a lot, and they talk when they have their downtime, 510 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 1: which is not that much. They talk. They share information 511 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: and the hope is that I share some with you 512 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: down a road, you share somep with me. So that's 513 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: it's an exchange of information. So it doesn't doesn't mean 514 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: I gotta tell the whole world now, doesn't mean you could. 515 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 1: You could share. You've shared plenty of things with me. 516 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 1: I haven't started blabbering it off to everybody else out there. 517 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: Donna understanding. Yeah, I'm gonna do that in the morning. 518 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: You just don't listen. No, I'm kidding, all right. Well 519 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 1: the forty divers, well, the forty divers and Brock Purdy 520 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: called off the Seahawks to win the NFC West. Oh gosh, yes, 521 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 1: they will do nothing but be a game manager. That's 522 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: all he has to do. Kid. He does not have have 523 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: to do anything sensational or exceptional. All he has to 524 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: do is do what he did on Sunday. He does 525 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 1: just that, take care of the football. They will win 526 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 1: football games. I'm astonished everyone thinks that you have to 527 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: play like Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen or Joe Burrow 528 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 1: and other play quarterbacks successfully Tom Brady for the first 529 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 1: four years of the start. What did he do? He 530 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: managed the game, didn't take crazy chances and in clutched times. 531 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: He made plays. But you don't have to be sensational, 532 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 1: you know, to get the job done. I'm gonna tell 533 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: you right now, I have watched a lot of brock 534 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: Purty football. I mean they said he made forty one starts, 535 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: and I ain't a lot of you drawed. I think 536 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 1: I saw every single one of them starts when he 537 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: was in college. He's got some talent. He's a good 538 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 1: first off, he's a good guy. That's a really good guy, 539 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: comes from a good family, good folks. He's a good dude. 540 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: So I root for a guy like brock Purty, I 541 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 1: really do. The second thing is is, hey, it's a 542 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 1: good story. He stepped in there and beat the Dolphins. 543 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: But if he's the starter, eventually there's gonna be things 544 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: that they find out on tape that's gonna hamper him. Now, 545 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 1: you're right, You're right. This is the interesting thing here. 546 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: What Cash does with his offense is will he continue 547 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: to just have to play point guard? If he played 548 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 1: for a lot of other teams, i'd say no chance. 549 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,679 Speaker 1: But because he plays in that system, I give him 550 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: a fighting chance to do it. I think it's gonna 551 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: be hard, but I give a fighting chance to do it. 552 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: I say, yeah, you know what, I think they can 553 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 1: because I do. I respect their system and I respect 554 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 1: their talent right and this system is about grinding you out, 555 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,439 Speaker 1: beating you down. Not much in the vertical passing game. 556 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: Now when they take their play action pass shots and 557 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 1: get them, you're done for it. But what they want 558 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: to do is beat you horizontally. They're not trying to 559 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 1: beat you Berkeley. They want to spread you out and 560 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: then you thin you out and then where you out. 561 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: And that's what they're all about. Yeah, they, I mean 562 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: they You got a guy like George Kittle, if he 563 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: can be healthy, I think that that can make a 564 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: big difference there. And you've got a lot of players. 565 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 1: I know they took a shot with Brandon Iouk on 566 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: Sunday and ended up, you know, getting caught with it 567 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: because they ended up throwing an interception. Rock pretty interp 568 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: throwing an interception in that game. But I don't have 569 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with taking a shot every 570 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: now and then, he just you know what you are 571 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: and you know what you're not. And Rock Party is 572 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: a very smart quarterback for everything, given he's a very 573 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 1: smart quarterback. There. Uh. Did the Titans former general manager 574 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: John Robinson's trade of A. J. Brown in the off 575 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 1: season ultimately lead to his termination this week? Yes? Yes, 576 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: without a show of doubt. I mean the fact that 577 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 1: he one Brown put on a show. They got scenes 578 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: now raybel being visibly upset with the trade, And come on, 579 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: who fires a guy who has a winning record the 580 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 1: way he does? And you in the middle of the week, 581 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: you pay attention to this, Yes, and you pay attention 582 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: to this too. Mike Rabel has been taking shots at 583 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: John Robinson in the media for the last three years. 584 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,640 Speaker 1: He's been taking shots at him for the draft, He's 585 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 1: been taking shots at him for certain signings. He's been 586 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: taking shots at him for others. For for this situation 587 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: with A J. Brown. I mean, Mike Vrabel hasn't just 588 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: come out and said John Robinson isn't good at his job. 589 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: But Mike Rabel said everything but John Robinson and good 590 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: at his job and he doesn't like working with him. 591 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: Power struggle and one and frankly, I mean those guys 592 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: play for Mike Vrabel. Mike Rabel, that's true about that. 593 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: We can all agree that the Texans might be the 594 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: worst team. I don't want to rent know that. Jason 595 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: Lord Almighty, who's the second worst team in the NFL. 596 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: I tried to be nicer about it. Well, hold on, now, 597 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: Denver Rams, Bears or Colts. It's Denver. Yes, it's Denver. 598 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: D They can un amass ten points. Ken they got 599 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: ten points on Sunday. Didn't they win the game? They 600 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: didn't win. They didn't know they didn't win. Oh my goodness, gracious, 601 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: they got nine points and they lost the Ravens. Yes, 602 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: I guess it. They can un amass ten points. Why 603 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: that is just terrible defensess ballers. Give him credit man 604 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: their offseason, go oh smart, move their quarterback away, But 605 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: we did not know what the quarterback was bringing to 606 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: the table. From my att to standpoint, you make that 607 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: move and you're even further away. I mean, they're they're 608 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: out there. Such a thing of the word called the dulgrums. 609 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: Because if boy goodness factor fiction, TCU should not have 610 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: made the College Football Playoff. Fact Oh, come on, who 611 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: did you want to put in Alabama? You don't want 612 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: to hear. You don't wanna hear what I had to 613 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: say about it. It's disrespectful to you, and I have 614 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: too much respect for you. I can't say it. I 615 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: ain't gonna say it. I ain't gonna say it. You 616 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: would have an excuse, but I'm not gonna say it. 617 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: Who would be who in the matchup Alabama versus TCU. 618 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: Alabama's wins or garbage? But ask the question, can I 619 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: think TC would give him a run? About that? About 620 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: that question, Alabama would be favored, Alabama would be favored, 621 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: but I think TC would gi him a run. It 622 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: was a top ten lost to Kansas State. You guys. 623 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: I said that to you on Sunday, and I'll say 624 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: it again. Montgomery Ward didn't just close their doors overnight. 625 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: There were plenty of people who went to Montgomery Ward 626 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: just because it was Montgomery Ward. And that's the same thing. 627 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: It's the same thing to Rod, that's what Alabama football 628 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: is this year. I have to find a yeah, exact, 629 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: thank you, kmart use kmart Uh. People still blue Light specials, 630 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: blue Legs special. There you go, that's your Alabama football. No, 631 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: tc you deserve to be in. I will say, I 632 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: know you pay attention. It would be wrong to use 633 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: that argument against you, because like you do college games 634 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: and you do them well. So I'm not gonna use 635 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: it against you. But I had a different argument for it. 636 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do it, are you guys in love 637 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: with the name? I watched the games and again, Alabama 638 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: would beat them top ten loss. I mean Alabama might 639 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: beat them, but Alabama, I said, would be. If I wasn't, 640 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: I was defendive with him, will beat them. They would be. 641 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: They'd be a small favorite. And I think TCU could 642 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: beat them. And because that's the argument, that's the way 643 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: I'm sticking to it. You gotta do live reado. Okay, sorry, 644 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: you can win, you win, Gerad wins. I'm just I'm 645 00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: making my argument. That's all technically that t see us in, 646 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: but you get what I'm saying. Anyway, you win. A 647 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: fans Market Coundars face off on the Lake. It's presented 648 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: by Meyer and it's the first major outdoor hockey game 649 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: at First Energy Stadium on February eight. The Austy Buckeys 650 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 1: They're gonna host the Michigan Wolverines right here at First 651 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: Energy Stadium in downtown Cleveland. Tickets are on sale now 652 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: and they started just twelve dollars from More information, visit 653 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: First Energy Stadium dot com, slash face off. That's First 654 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: Energy Stadium dot com slash face Off, or give us 655 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: a call at four four oh eight nine one fifty fifty. 656 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: Up next, the Voice of your Cleveland Browns, Jim Donovan. 657 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Cleveland Browns Preview Show on the 658 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: University Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio Network. When loser draw, if 659 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: you don't play the standard, there's corrections to be made, 660 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: and there's things to be done that are gonna benefit 661 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: the team, and we're all trying to work to those goals. 662 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: This is the Cleveland Browns Preview Show. You're listening to 663 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: the University Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio Networks. Here are your hosts, 664 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: Kim Carmen and Geron Cherry. Brown's Bengals coming up on 665 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: Sunday at pay Corps Stadium, Rod Jerry, you'll hear him 666 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: on the sidelines. Nathan's Girl will be in the booth 667 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: doing the color analysis alongside the Voice of your Cleveland 668 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: Browns and joins us right now. Jim Donovan, Jim, thanks 669 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 1: for joining us tonight. Good to be with you guys. 670 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: Kennon Gerard, good to talk to you. You know, Jim, 671 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: you called it on Sunday. He said, it's probably gonna 672 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: be a nice balance it. It looks like it could 673 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: be a pretty conservative game plan offensively for the Browns, 674 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: and they were pretty conservative. What did you make of 675 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: the entire contest? Well, I thought it was, um, you know, 676 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: it was Uh, it was a great team win, Ken 677 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: because uh, you know, they found a different way to win. 678 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: I mean they won defensively, they got turnovers, they scored 679 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: on defense, they want on special teams. Finally, which has 680 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: really been lagging all year, they had a big pop return, 681 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: you know, Kate York hit his field goals. Uh, they 682 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: got a fumble recovery on a pup return by Houston. 683 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: So those two areas which have kind of really had 684 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: tough years. Um, you know, they really cashed in and 685 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: that that really pulled them through a rough day for 686 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 1: the offense, no doubt about it. Um. The thing that 687 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,919 Speaker 1: I think is, as you go through it, I think 688 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: that uh, you know, I I just think we look 689 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 1: for a great deal of improvement on Sunday at the 690 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,760 Speaker 1: quarterback position for Deshaun Watson. Maybe we were all naive 691 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 1: to think that he would just step in and really 692 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: be the Deshaun Watson of a couple of years ago 693 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 1: when he was lighting it up with the Texans. Uh 694 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,919 Speaker 1: to do it against the Texans this time, because realistically 695 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: that was a long, long layoff, and uh, you know, 696 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,879 Speaker 1: we need him and the Brons are gonna need him 697 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 1: to be better this Sunday, to be competitive against a 698 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 1: great team that is playing great football right now. And 699 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 1: Jim talking about Deshaun Watson, there were certain things that 700 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: I saw that made me say, Okay, I see where 701 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: once he gets this rust removed from his game, that 702 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 1: this makes sense and this is why we made this move. 703 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 1: Did you see certain players where you said that years self, Okay, 704 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: that's what I'm accustomed to from Deshaun Watson. Yeah, I did. 705 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: I mean I thought that. Um. I thought a couple 706 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 1: of times he was his own worst enemies. I don't 707 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: think it was the Texans. I think it was himself. 708 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: And he might have been inside his own head on 709 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: this thing, but I thought at times, you know, Gerard, 710 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: he was indecisive as to what he wanted to do. 711 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,320 Speaker 1: Do I want to run here he gets to the edge, 712 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 1: or do I want to show like I'm gonna run 713 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna hit the receiver And it didn't seem 714 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 1: like the receiver knew what he was gonna do. And 715 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 1: I think that too many times he was kind of 716 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 1: caught in between gears. But there were other times where 717 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 1: you would see a flash of him where he is 718 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,359 Speaker 1: lethal on the bootleg when he gets out on that 719 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: edge and he becomes a nightmare. I think for a 720 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 1: defense that's saying to itself, is he going to run 721 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: or is he gonna let it fly and throw the football? Um. 722 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: There were a couple of incidents, uh, you know, instances 723 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 1: rather where he was like that. Other than that, I 724 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 1: just think the good part about him was that he 725 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: didn't come on glued. I thought he was very centered 726 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 1: about everything. Uh And I think that he was very 727 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: understanding about what was going on and just plowed through it. 728 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,879 Speaker 1: He got through it. They won the game, They got 729 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 1: the result that they went down there to get. And 730 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,839 Speaker 1: I think he's probably very confident. He seems to be 731 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 1: that he'll be better this week and he'll be better 732 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: next week against Baltimore and so on and so on. 733 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 1: Cincinnati coming up on Sunday, Jamaar Chase will be with 734 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 1: him a different animal than what they played on that 735 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: Monday night game. That's the last loss that the Bengals had. Jim, 736 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 1: they've been red hot. Boy, they have ken and they're 737 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 1: really good. I mean, they really are good. Uh At 738 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 1: of course they were really great last year to go 739 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: all the way to the Super Bowl and go right 740 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 1: down to the final gun before they ended up losing 741 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: that Super Bowl. Now they got off to a rough start, um, 742 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 1: and everybody kept talking about a hangover super Bowl hangover, um. 743 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 1: But boy, they have solved it. And you know, guys, 744 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: I was watching the NFL network last night and they 745 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 1: were re playing the game from Sunday down in Cincinnati 746 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 1: between the Chiefs and Bengals, and the the intensity in 747 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 1: that game was at a f C Conference championship game level. 748 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 1: It really was. And I say to myself, first of all, 749 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 1: I want the Browns to be playing in a game 750 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 1: like that with that kind of intensity. And then the 751 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: second point is I hope that they can compete in 752 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: a game like that. That's where we want to be. 753 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: We want to be in games just like that, and 754 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 1: the Bengals are very comfortable playing in those kind of 755 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 1: big games, and more often than not in the last 756 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 1: two years, they're getting the right result. They're winning those games. 757 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 1: And Jim, do you think there's any truth to the 758 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,919 Speaker 1: idea that a team can have a certain team's number, 759 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 1: because it certainly seems like we have the Bengals numbering 760 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 1: that they have a hard time to particularly with Joe 761 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 1: Burrow as a starter beating the Browns. Well, I would 762 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 1: say this, Gharade. If you take an a look through 763 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 1: the years. Um, we have had our difficulties with the 764 00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 1: Steelers for many, many decades, not just years, as decades, 765 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 1: and I would say that they you know, they have 766 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 1: been in our heads, especially when you go over to Pittsburgh. Yeah, 767 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 1: I think that there are some teams that really give 768 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 1: you a problem and it and it multiplies the more 769 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: you go there or they come here and you don't 770 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 1: gain any kind of success. I don't think that we 771 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,479 Speaker 1: are in the bank. You know that we're in Joe 772 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 1: Burrow's head or in the Bengal's head right now. Um, 773 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 1: I just think that we have come up with a 774 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 1: couple of our best games of the season against them. 775 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 1: I mean that game down in Cincinnati last year was 776 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 1: the best game of the season for the Bronze so far. 777 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,359 Speaker 1: I would have to say that Thursday night Halloween game, Uh, 778 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,320 Speaker 1: you know that was right there, is maybe the best 779 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 1: game of the season so far for the Bronx, and 780 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 1: it just happens to come against Cincinnati. I think the 781 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 1: Bronx are aware of how important it is, and they 782 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 1: kind of really they almost draft to compete in their 783 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 1: division to get players to match up against either the Bengals, 784 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 1: Ravens or Steelers um and and I think it's worked 785 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 1: for them. I think they're playing better inside the division. Jim, 786 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,280 Speaker 1: we thank you for the time. We know we're all pressed. 787 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you on Sunday morning. Thank you very much. 788 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 1: Al Right, guys, take care of YouTube. Jim Donovan, the 789 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 1: voice of your Cleveland Browns, joining us on the hotline. 790 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 1: We come back, we'll tell you what's coming up on 791 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 1: Thursday night, and we'll preview Sunday morning as the Browns 792 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 1: getting ready to take on the Bengals. Don in Cincinnati. 793 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Cleveland Browns preview show on the 794 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 1: University Hospitals Cleveland Brown's Radio Network. This is the Cleveland 795 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 1: Browns Preview show on the University Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio Network. 796 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Kim Kerman and Gerard Jerry. Thursday, 797 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 1: seven pm, The Kevin Stefanski Show. It's gonna be all 798 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,319 Speaker 1: along the University Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio Network Head Coach 799 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski and Ladies and gentlemen, Brown's wide Receiver Donovan 800 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 1: People's Jones. He's not your Jones, He's not my Jones. 801 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 1: He's the People's Jones. Gerald. That's right, and he is 802 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,760 Speaker 1: the man calling a legend and no longer a myth. 803 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,800 Speaker 1: So yes, bawling out, gonna making it happen on virus 804 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 1: at the right receiver spot, as well as returning man 805 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 1: love the dude, love what he represents. I should rip Jason. 806 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 1: I should rip Jason Gibbs for getting him on Thursday 807 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: and set it today, even though we love Chase Winovitch 808 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,399 Speaker 1: coming on the show with us, because I have been 809 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 1: trying to extol the virtues of Donovan People's shownes basically 810 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 1: since the Bron's drafted him. I mean, I love the 811 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,360 Speaker 1: pick when they drafted him, and here he is in 812 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:34,879 Speaker 1: year three and the difference is being made. And I'm 813 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 1: gonna tell you, as an analyst, I'm doing little champions post. 814 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:38,840 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, I'm sorry I heard that. Well, 815 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,879 Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk about fast and since because I'm really 816 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: interesting that as well. Oh, he's very well dressed, man. 817 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 1: I saw what he was. I saw a lot of 818 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 1: guys in like the and ya, that's fine. You could 819 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,920 Speaker 1: wear the travel jumpsuits and things like that to get 820 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:53,879 Speaker 1: on the plane. And I looked at Donovan People's Jones 821 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 1: and said, my goodness, gracious, that is a well dressed man. 822 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,720 Speaker 1: When he leaves the room, when he leaves the building, 823 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 1: Donovan Peoples Jones has it all together. Now. He was 824 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 1: not playing. You can't get clothes like that on me. 825 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,319 Speaker 1: I'm just too big. I gotta have the I gotta 826 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 1: have a different build. You gotta have a different building. 827 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 1: Can't can't look like that. I just can't. Hey, man, 828 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 1: they got big and tall. That looked like a semi 829 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 1: truck walking through the hallway. All right, Gerarde, of course, 830 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 1: that's coming up on Thursday, seven pm Kevin Stefanski show, 831 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 1: Brown's going down to Cincinnati, right onto the Queen's City, 832 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 1: right along the banks of the Ohio River. Gerardo, what 833 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 1: are you thinking on Sunday out of the Browns go 834 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 1: down there and get themselves a win, buddy, Well, it's 835 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 1: really simple. Duplicate, replicate e stole eight not even be 836 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: a word. But the whole point is that go do 837 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 1: what you've done in previous times with this team. Weather 838 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:47,399 Speaker 1: the storm and then forced turnovers, play clean football, make 839 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,400 Speaker 1: them beat themselves and get frustrated with the fact that 840 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 1: they can't believe that they're losing to you. And that's 841 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,440 Speaker 1: what you're gonna have to do, and do it for 842 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,919 Speaker 1: four quarters because this is a very good football team. 843 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 1: But for some reason, they get really really frustrated when 844 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,719 Speaker 1: they play against us and they don't play to the 845 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 1: level that they're capable of. So continue that continuation of 846 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,399 Speaker 1: giving them frustration and at the end you will see 847 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 1: a lot of elation. They don't like it. They don't 848 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 1: like it. It's a very awkward situation for me. I 849 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,319 Speaker 1: agree with you. I said, go ahead and give it 850 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 1: to him. See what Deshaun Watsona do. Let's see what 851 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,400 Speaker 1: Nick Chubb can do. This offensive line, what they can do. 852 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,320 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a little bit tougher task. DJ Readers 853 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 1: back for the Cincinnati Bengals to the Browns. We'll have 854 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,239 Speaker 1: their hands full coming up on Sunday, and we'll be 855 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,959 Speaker 1: talking to you at nine am. Your ears are gonna 856 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,720 Speaker 1: be full coming up on Sunday. Brown's Game Day Gerade 857 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,240 Speaker 1: Cherry and myself at nine am eleven am the Cleveland 858 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,360 Speaker 1: Browns Kickoff Show with myself, Andy Basket, and Thivias Powell. 859 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:42,439 Speaker 1: Then one pm kickoff Jim Nathan Gerard live from pay 860 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:46,359 Speaker 1: Course Stadium and since Sinnati, the Browns take it on 861 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 1: the eight and four Bengals trying to make it win 862 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,279 Speaker 1: number three in a row here in two big thanks 863 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,800 Speaker 1: as always to our executive producer Jason Gives doing a 864 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,759 Speaker 1: wonderful job as always, Meredith Kanner, technical producer, She's incredible. 865 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 1: Associate producer our Lords, he's great as well. For Draw Cherry, 866 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,160 Speaker 1: I'm Ken Carmen. Thank you for listening to the University 867 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 1: Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio Network. You've been listening to the 868 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns preview Show. Join us next week for more 869 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 1: behind the scenes Browns news from Bria. We always look 870 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,319 Speaker 1: at each game is how do we win this game? 871 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 1: What does this game call for? 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