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Speaker 1: Scrible advice shoots. He welcome to the naught even nice show.

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Speaker 1: I'm Rob Shooter. It's Thursday. Normally our friend Mark Loop

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Speaker 1: who joins us on Thursday, but he's traveling. He's in

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Speaker 1: l A. So our dear friend Corey Andrew jumped over

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Speaker 1: from Friday to Thursday and he's here hopefully right now. Corey,

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Speaker 1: are you I am here? Yes, I jumped, Darling. Anytime

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Speaker 1: you call I jump, you know it. You know that's terrible.

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Speaker 1: But thank you for in today, my friend Corey. Last

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Speaker 1: night I went to see this play. It's called Take

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Speaker 1: Me Out, starring Jesse Williams from Grey's Anatomy and Jesse

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Speaker 1: Tyler Ferguson from Modern Family. Oh it's fabulous. Do you

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Speaker 1: know anything about this place? Yes? I saw it as well.

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Speaker 1: What did you think? Well? I was a little distracted, Well,

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Speaker 1: a lot distracted. Let's get that out the way quickly.

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Speaker 1: There's full male new to take in this plane, now

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Speaker 1: I did. I didn't know about it before I went in. Corey,

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Speaker 1: you see everything. So if you want to see Jesse Williams,

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Speaker 1: you don't see Jesse Tyler Ferguson. But if you want

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Speaker 1: to see Jesse Jesse Williams. A should I put this

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Speaker 1: nicely because we're a family show. He's a he's a

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Speaker 1: very large talent. He's a exceptional young man, isn't He's

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Speaker 1: a gifted, young, very healthy young man. So you get

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Speaker 1: to see him put outside of that, and that is

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Speaker 1: one reason to go. I'm not I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: be a proutier to see a star with a huge peelis.

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Speaker 1: It's delicious gas. I loved it, but the play is fantastic.

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Speaker 1: It really basically in a locker room of a professional

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Speaker 1: baseball team. And I don't want to give too much away,

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Speaker 1: but it sort of deals with homophobia, racism, class, masculinity, sports.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a big sports fan, but it deals with

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Speaker 1: all that. Oh, I had such a fantastic time. If

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Speaker 1: you were in New York, check this out. If you

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Speaker 1: like a good play, and if you're a bit of

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Speaker 1: a perth, check it out. To Corey when he pulled

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Speaker 1: oh my two seconds later, the shorts and there's water too,

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Speaker 1: there's like showers, there's a shower. Corporate had excused myself intermission.

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Speaker 1: what we've got going on today, and it's none of that.

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Speaker 1: Don't worry, I'm not going to be exposing anything but

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Speaker 1: celebrity dish. What time is it, my friends, it's tea time.

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Speaker 1: Jennifer Lopez has done this amazing new interview on the

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Speaker 1: cover of Vogue, and she describes co parenting with Ben

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Speaker 1: Affleck's ex wife, Jennifer got So they are raising Viola,

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Speaker 1: who is sixteen, So she's a teenager. Now, you know, sixteen,

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Speaker 1: with Mark Antony. She said that blending their families, they've

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Speaker 1: be handled with so much care. She goes on to say, quote,

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Speaker 1: really well. She said. She hopes to cultivate a family

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Speaker 1: to think about this. So the two got engaged for

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Speaker 1: I mean, you couldn't think of two more different celebrities.

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Speaker 1: They're so different just human beings, forget celebrities. They're just

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Speaker 1: all this cord Well, you know, I do think it's

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Speaker 1: Corey Love, what are you working on? Yes? Well, I

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Speaker 1: So Megan Markle says, the word difficult is actually the

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