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Speaker 1: It's time to get into the podcast. Everyone loves today's guest.

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Speaker 1: He's fantastic. It's Jacob Wisaki. Jacob, welcome to iad No. Hello,

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Speaker 3: These women would get hammed. They would just get tanked.

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Speaker 3: But then you'd also allow people to just get absolutely incinerated.

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Speaker 1: I like the extra fifty dollars, a little walking around money.

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Speaker 3: I think like sour cream interesting because it curdles under

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Speaker 1: Eat sour cream.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm out interesting, I'm fully out.

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Speaker 1: People have very strong opinions about sour creams, even while

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Speaker 3: it's like, okay, cool, I guess I'll eat some bad milk,

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Speaker 1: It adds some tangs.

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Speaker 3: Are you pro sour cream?

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Speaker 3: FU can love it.

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Speaker 1: I'm with the sour cream Council. Okay, and everyone, you're

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Speaker 3: on you.

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Speaker 1: I don't mind.

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Speaker 3: It neutral a neutral party. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: When I find it in a burrito, I'm like, well,

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Speaker 1: they put another ingredient, an ingredient and thank god, bang

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Speaker 3: just I guess good marketing.

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Speaker 1: It is because it is mayo. It's the same it

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you put a little garlic or a little steak

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Speaker 1: Uh no mayonnaise. I've like learned to deal with.

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Speaker 3: I can like be a big boy, be like okay, fine,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna eat it. I'll try, but I don't get it.

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Speaker 3: I don't get what we're getting out of it, right,

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Speaker 3: it more wet man.

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Speaker 1: Some sandwhich is the bread is too dry and you

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Speaker 3: I say, we blame the farmers, but if we should

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Speaker 1: Yeah, whoever was the person with the scythe ultimately is

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Speaker 1: to blame for mayonnaise. No. I I can eat essentially anything.

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Speaker 1: I had something to eat recently that i've I wish

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Speaker 1: I could remember. It was. Oh, it was a tuna melt. Okay,

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Speaker 3: It was your first time?

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Speaker 1: Last time? Only made it halfway through?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what did you not like about it?

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Speaker 3: I have not?

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Speaker 3: I don't really like fish.

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Speaker 1: Right, have you drowned?

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Speaker 3: I'm currently not currently not so. I grew up in Sokel, right,

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Speaker 3: And I feel like the culture of being a kid

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Speaker 3: And there was a couple of times where you're there's

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Speaker 3: a couple of times where you're really like having fun

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Speaker 3: honestly don't know about this one, right, and then you

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Speaker 1: Is that like, yeah, no, I was in the ocean

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Speaker 3: If. Yeah, man, it is really out of control. It's

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Speaker 3: and you can get tricked. You can be like, oh,

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Speaker 1: Do you know Josh Sharp no comedian Josh He drowned

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Speaker 1: in Mexico. I guess, like technically, does when you drown

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Speaker 3: I think to me, that's cause of death, right, like,

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Speaker 3: drown is I think you almost drowned, almost dround. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: look that up.

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Speaker 1: Jamie, what is the final word on drowning?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would really like to get to the bottom

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Speaker 3: of that. It looks as if, yes, it's it's pretty final.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, that's the final word. Okay, So he almost around,

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Speaker 1: I think essentially kind of shut down for a minute.

440
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 1: And to me, it's like, okay, if.

441
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 3: You cross over, I'll give it to you.

442
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:17,200
Speaker 1: If yeah, then you have a best seller on your hands,

443
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 1: all kinds of I mean, your career opens up in

444
00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:20,360
Speaker 1: a hue.

445
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:25,480
Speaker 3: I wish I could write an angel book. I know

446
00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 3: it would be good that book tour, Go.

447
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,159
Speaker 1: Be Reckless in the ocean, go for it. Are you

448
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 1: a beach guy in general?

449
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm kind of like for me unfortunately a classic

450
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:37,280
Speaker 3: so Calcy.

451
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 1: You have a bit of a beach vibe.

452
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 3: Thank you. I really appreciate you.

453
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 1: This is not a bad thing. It's a good thing.

454
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,720
Speaker 3: I like all versions of going to the beach. But

455
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:47,680
Speaker 3: I'm a guy who's like I'm gonna get there early

456
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 3: and I'm going to stay all day.

457
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:51,920
Speaker 1: And are you reading? What are you doing? You're playing

458
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:53,800
Speaker 1: in the sand, You're splashing in the water.

459
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 3: All of it, Wow, all of it. You're I think

460
00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,639
Speaker 3: it's a great way to like get away from the

461
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,679
Speaker 3: phone for like an extenule time. Or I think a

462
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,959
Speaker 3: lot of it is just like focusing on kind of

463
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 3: like doing nothing and enjoying just like the sounds and

464
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 3: the sights, and like maybe you're with some friends and

465
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,360
Speaker 3: so you've got like some fellowship and community, and it's

466
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 3: kind of about the nothingness of it, right, and then

467
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,159
Speaker 3: you get to fill that nothing with like little things

468
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 3: and it's sand castle time and it's swim time, and

469
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 3: it's like go for a walk time or nap time.

470
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 1: You're making this sound way more appealing to me because

471
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,200
Speaker 1: I just think I'm tired and there's an hour drive

472
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 1: home and I want to take a shower.

473
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 3: So I think that maybe if you thought about it,

474
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 3: is like it's a whole day. It's like Disneyland, Right,

475
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 3: it's not. It's not a three hour you pop in

476
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 3: and then go home. Right, you're going to do the

477
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 3: whole thing, right, Yeah, but it is a lot of sun.

478
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 3: You gotta be careful.

479
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 1: I know, I feel like do tan.

480
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:49,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of get a little alliver.

481
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,920
Speaker 1: Okay, you're very lucky for me, not a you're a

482
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,119
Speaker 1: little more fair there. Yes, So there's a lot of

483
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 1: worrying about reapplying the sunscreen and have I got enough

484
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 1: on in the first place.

485
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 3: Look the tent technology in the last five years, Kent technology,

486
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,199
Speaker 3: it's gotten crazy for beachwear, Like what people are just

487
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 3: there's all these like things that you can just pop

488
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 3: up and all of a sudden you're shaded. And it's

489
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 3: like I would have loved that when I was a kid. Right,

490
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 3: there's all these like and it's just the wind and

491
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 3: it just uses the wind to keep up and you're

492
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 3: shaded and wow, yeah.

493
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 1: Not doing anything for anyone.

494
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 3: Old school at this point.

495
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 1: Pass oh, I would say a fallacy the umbrella phallasy.

496
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 3: Logical fallacies you got to get one of these sun

497
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 3: the sun umbrella. I don't even know what they're called.

498
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 3: There the text amazing.

499
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,719
Speaker 1: Well, I know what parking lot to go to the ARII, Walmart, Target,

500
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 1: Old Suppora.

501
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 3: Parking Lot, best Buy.

502
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: They got it all, They've got it.

503
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,439
Speaker 3: All, got Wendy's, and then you can go get Backstakhoffs.

504
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 3: Give me a bloomin. Let's get a bloomin after this,

505
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,160
Speaker 3: Let's cut the pod now and go get a bloom and.

506
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 1: Well, as much as I'd like to keep talking about

507
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 1: that parking lot, I feel like there's something else we

508
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 1: should I don't want to talk about it. I didn't

509
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,919
Speaker 1: even want to bring it up. Yere honest, But you know,

510
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 1: I thought Jacob's wonderful friend of a friend of friends.

511
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people can vouch for this guy.

512
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,120
Speaker 1: He'll come on the podcast, we'll have a nice time

513
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,439
Speaker 1: and then move on with our days. Maybe split a blueman.

514
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 1: The podcast is called I said no gifts, so I

515
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 1: was a little I was surprised when you showed up

516
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 1: today holding this gorgeous gift in this stunning kind of

517
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 1: magenta pink sparkling bag.

518
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 3: I can't show up. I'm empty handed. It rude friends.

519
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 1: Okay, well if you if we're friends, I'm always looking

520
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 1: for new friends.

521
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't enter a new friend situation empty hand

522
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 3: and it's so rude.

523
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 1: Okay, well that's a perfectly good excuse. Should I open

524
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 1: it here on the podcast?

525
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 3: I would be honored if you opened it. Okay, let's

526
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 3: get in there and just have fun.

527
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 1: The front of this has got a nice there's a

528
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:01,479
Speaker 1: feel to it.

529
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 3: I don't know if you might take some glitter away

530
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 3: with you.

531
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, not yet.

532
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 3: That's almost the same as Mr for that.

533
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, very nice. Okay, let's reach in here pulling out. Okay,

534
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 1: now we've got a lot of tiss.

535
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,199
Speaker 3: Okay, it's in that. Okay, it's in the baggy. I

536
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 3: did sort of a classic small Oh my.

537
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: God, this is so small.

538
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 3: Yeah. I did sort of a classic small gift in

539
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 3: a big bag.

540
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,239
Speaker 1: It's okay, we've got the tissue. Okay, now we can

541
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 1: get rid of this. Also, there's let's not forget a

542
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 1: paper clip.

543
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 3: That's also part of it.

544
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 1: This is part of the gift.

545
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 3: That's I brought you two tabs of really good acid

546
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 3: and a mushroom.

547
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, do you grow your own mushrooms.

548
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,400
Speaker 3: I don't don't, but I got a nice I got

549
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 3: a nice mushroom guy. Uh, I just go to this

550
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 3: kind of weird warehouse that changes locations throughout the city.

551
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,640
Speaker 3: What you get like a he kind of like there's

552
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 3: a guy and he like is like we're on sixteenth

553
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 3: Street today. And you go and there's a warehouse and

554
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 3: they pat you down and there's a bunch of people

555
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 3: selling mushrooms and weed, And.

556
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,959
Speaker 1: Does it feel illegal? How illegal is this drug trade?

557
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 1: That's my question because it's so harmless.

558
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:23,640
Speaker 3: I mean, if it was just weed, I would say

559
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 3: that it's gray markets, the term where it's like semi legal,

560
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 3: where I think they're probably growing it legally. They have

561
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 3: the paperwork to grow legally, it's just like the business license, yeah,

562
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 3: Or they're not selling it in a brick and mortar

563
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 3: in a way that you normally would, or they're not

564
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 3: following regulations of like packaging and testing.

565
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: And stuff like that, just like selling milk.

566
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's like selling raw milk, raw milk. But

567
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 3: as soon as you put like the mushrooms and stuff

568
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 3: into the equation, I do think it becomes black market,

569
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 3: significantly more black market wild Yeah.

570
00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 1: How did you find out about this particular business.

571
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 3: So it's an interesting little set of situation. Like I

572
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 3: stopped buying weed from clinics, okay, because it's like bad.

573
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 1: I think it's bad in one way. If you feel

574
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: like it's bad weed.

575
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 3: I think it's bad weed. I think it's like too expensive.

576
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 3: I think it's like overtaxed. It's like not really thinking

577
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 3: about like the growers. It's turning into this like big

578
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 3: sort of like it's just another capitalistic Marborough sort of

579
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 3: total space and all the weeds kind of old and

580
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 3: it all has to get sent off and it has

581
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 3: to get tested, and you can't smell it, and like

582
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 3: back in the day, you go to a clinic and

583
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 3: you'd like open a jar and be like this seems

584
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 3: nice for.

585
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,439
Speaker 1: Me, almost like on the prairie you would go to

586
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: the apothecarya.

587
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. So I ran into some guy

588
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 3: at a punk show who was like he had like

589
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 3: a little set up at the punk show, okay, like

590
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 3: a couple of jars and he's like selling pre rolled

591
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 3: joints and stuff like that. So I like got his

592
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 3: information and he sold me like weed and mushrooms for

593
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 3: for like a year, and then ominously he came over

594
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 3: one day and he was like, Hey, I just want

595
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 3: to let you know, like I'm getting out of the game,

596
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 3: Like I'm not going to be selling drugs anymore. Like

597
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 3: I'm going to go back to being an air conditioner tech.

598
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 3: I think it's a better move for me. And I

599
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,679
Speaker 3: was like, okay, yeah, like thanks for everything, man, And

600
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 3: like over the year we had like you know, he'd

601
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 3: come to the house and we'd have a chat and

602
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 3: ask him about his life, and we had a nice

603
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 3: little report and I'd see him at a punk store

604
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 3: every now and then. But then he did something really weird.

605
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 3: Not weird, he did something interesting that he left behind,

606
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 3: like a piece of paper that had an Instagram handla,

607
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 3: and he didn't say anything anything, and I like followed

608
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 3: that handle and it was too one of these accounts

609
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 3: that works in this sort of like gray market space.

610
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 3: And so then essentially what he did was like connect

611
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 3: me with his supplier. Right, So he's like, I buy wholesale. Wow,

612
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 3: So I buy a couple of pounds, right, and then

613
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 3: I sell you know, ounces or whatever to you and

614
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 3: your people. So he basically like connected me to the whole.

615
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: What's the breaking bad guy's name.

616
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 3: It's not that big. I'm not hanging out too.

617
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: He has an underground layer yeah uh yeah.

618
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 3: So and then I've just like gotten to know these

619
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 3: people that it's essentially like a farmer's market, okay, where

620
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 3: it pops up in these different locations and you can

621
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 3: go and smell it like he used to. And there's

622
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 3: a lot of different like independent growers and stuff like that.

623
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 2: Uh.

624
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: Their instagram, they got got good grid, good story.

625
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 3: Nothing on the grid.

626
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: Nothing on the grid, because if you like post stuff.

627
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 3: About weed, it gets taken down and it's like one

628
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 3: of those things where it's like often the Instagram does

629
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 3: go down and then they have to like start over

630
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 3: with like XX.

631
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: Give me a break yea yeah, and so you just

632
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: go to random warehouses. When you first followed the instagram,

633
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: do you like, how do you approach Oh, I know

634
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: this guy.

635
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 3: I just I was yeah, I just was like so

636
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 3: and so uh like the name of the guy or

637
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 3: his like you know, nickname or whatever. It was like connect.

638
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 3: It was like I know, blah blah blah. And they're like, great,

639
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 3: here's the address Tuesday this time. And then just kind

640
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 3: of like you know, you go to a farmer's market.

641
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 3: A couple of times people start to remember you. You

642
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 3: just kind of get.

643
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: You're part of the community.

644
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 3: I'm in the system.

645
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and how often are you going?

646
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 3: Oh I like to buy Like I don't like to

647
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 3: go a ton, so I kind of like I'll kind

648
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 3: of buy in bulk by like an ounce or two,

649
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 3: and then you know, maybe go once a month or

650
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 3: whatever and get like my my treats, my medicine, and.

651
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: They've got weed, they have mushrooms, they have acid. Yeah,

652
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: anything else, No, no, no, because that feels like maybe

653
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: but like I'm not you're not going into the other category.

654
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I feel like there's other people if I

655
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 3: had to, there's other people for that. Oh yeah, they're

656
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 3: a little bit more on that.

657
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: Like holistic sort of like right, these things are from well.

658
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 3: The acid is like to push Yeah, yeah, how.

659
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: Was acid made in a lab?

660
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know the science.

661
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never really thought about LSD where it comes from.

662
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 3: This is from. This is the acid separate from the

663
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 3: gray market. I got it from a different oh, a

664
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 3: different place. I don't even know. I don't I got

665
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 3: it from I don't know. I don't know if I

666
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 3: could say.

667
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: Right, is it a person or a place?

668
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 3: It's like that's the thing. I'm not one hundred percent sure.

669
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 3: It's just like there's a a collective called the Sorcerer

670
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 3: that connect with on telegram.

671
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: I love the mystique.

672
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 3: It's very Yeah, it's interesting.

673
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: America needs to get back to eating at the dinner

674
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: table and mistique.

675
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit of mystery is fun and like

676
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 3: it's kind of interesting to be like what warehouse am

677
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 3: I gonna go get my wet today? And I go

678
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 3: to different parts of town and I like, I'm like, great,

679
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 3: I'll get to try a taco shop like a little

680
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 3: further away, or like, oh there's an interesting chili cheese

681
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 3: dogs stand next to it or whatever.

682
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: And are the people you're dealing with do they feel

683
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: like drug dealers or are they just some?

684
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 3: Do some feel like true like cultivators, they feel like,

685
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 3: you know, they're just like I grow great weed. And

686
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 3: then there are people who are like, I'm here to

687
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 3: sell sixty pounds weed right and make my money. And

688
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 3: I'm kind of an intense I have an intense brow.

689
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: How often are you doing mushrooms?

690
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 3: Not? I like a microdose? Okay, I like it's it's

691
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 3: Saturday night. We might go somewhere where there's like a

692
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 3: little bit of dancing and to just like eat a

693
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 3: little guy, right, and like I can still have a conversation,

694
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 3: and I like, I am not going to get to

695
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 3: like whoa right, my legs, what are they?

696
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: Tears are running down my face? Yeah, yeah yah laughing.

697
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 3: But a big dose I probably like at this point,

698
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 3: I mean, I've done it. Like, once you've done the

699
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 3: big guys, right, you kind of you kind of get it.

700
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 3: Kind of there's like all you know, there's only so

701
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 3: many lessons in life.

702
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: There's only so many revelations you can have.

703
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 3: And not saying I'm opposed to getting anymore, but it's

704
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 3: like I've done it. I've done the like big trips,

705
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 3: and I think it's more fun to just like, yeah,

706
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 3: we're like at a cabin, so everybody's gonna eat a

707
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 3: little bit more than a micro We're gonna do macro dose.

708
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 3: I feel a little giggly and like our tummy will

709
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 3: be a little rumbly.

710
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: But have you had any bad trips? For sure? What's

711
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: the open to talking about? Absolutely you've had.

712
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 3: Top of mind because I was just kind of talking

713
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 3: about this. There was like anytime I've done mushrooms in

714
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 3: like a large, large group, it's always a little more challenging.

715
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: Right, the anxiety that I mean, there are more random factors.

716
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 3: Yes, And there's like slightly different doses and like different

717
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 3: needs and like different sort of desires and like comforts,

718
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 3: and everybody's so amp athetic in a way that's like

719
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 3: almost the politeness gets in its own way. Oh, sure,

720
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 3: after you, after you, after you, but then nobody's doing anything.

721
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 3: I remember we were like at a cabin in Big Bear.

722
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 3: It was like a group of my improv buddies, and

723
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 3: it was one of the first trips that I had

724
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 3: taken with this like group of friends. And we all

725
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 3: ate some mushrooms and somebody was talking about that they

726
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 3: had found a recording of what the Earth sounded like

727
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 3: from space. It was like a sonic This could go

728
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 3: in any direction. And we were all seated in front

729
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 3: of this like big window, like looking out at the

730
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 3: view seeing the pines and stuff, and music was playing. Sure,

731
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 3: and they like had just talked about this like earth sound,

732
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 3: and it was playing and it was not what I

733
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 3: expected it to be. It was more melodic. Oh, and

734
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,720
Speaker 3: it turns out that it was not what was playing

735
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 3: was not the Earth sound. But I went like, wait,

736
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 3: so this is Earth. I was like, wait, so this

737
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 3: is Earth, and like I became misunderstood in that moment,

738
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 3: and they thought I was like talking about.

739
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 1: Like, oh, what you're looking at in that like I.

740
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 3: Think there was like a perception that I was like

741
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 3: a little further along than everybody. And then they were like, yeah, man,

742
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,760
Speaker 3: this like and everybody was like laughing, like yeah it's Earth, man, haha.

743
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 3: And I was like trying to communicate, like, no, not

744
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 3: what we're looking at, Like somebody was talking about playing

745
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 3: this music that was the same, and I like couldn't

746
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 3: articulate what was going on. And it was like everybody

747
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 3: was just like laughing and they're having a good charm

748
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 3: and we're comedians, we want to make people laugh. But

749
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 3: it was making me feel a little nuts, of course,

750
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 3: and I couldn't like communicate.

751
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 1: You're mildly confused, and now you can't communicate or express

752
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: yourself in the correct way.

753
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 3: And everybody's been like and their faces are like and

754
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 3: so I like kind of played it. I just like

755
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 3: muted myself and I like got really inside myself. And

756
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,240
Speaker 3: was like, it's fine, you were just misunderstood and that's fine.

757
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,439
Speaker 3: And that kind of turned into like an earworm that

758
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 3: burrowed its way like through my my psyche and I

759
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 3: had to go and I just like like I just

760
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 3: left and I didn't tell anybody, and I like was

761
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 3: gone for like two and a half hours, just like

762
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 3: tripping sack like around this weird kind of like remote

763
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 3: big bear area and I'm just like wandering through these

764
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 3: neighborhoods just being like does anybody get me? And I

765
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 3: remember like finding myself like in a yard with dogs

766
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 3: and being like this is where I need. This is good.

767
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 3: And I'm like in a yard like somebody's property, like

768
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 3: hanging out with their dogs, and I'm like going up

769
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 3: to trees and hugging, and then like I get really

770
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 3: sick and I like have to go puke like in

771
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 3: some like person's like you know, like neighborhood menace, yeah, man,

772
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 3: And the worst of it is like I kind of

773
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 3: came back and like after two hours that like the trip,

774
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 3: the the peaking of the trip had had subsided and

775
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 3: I was feeling a little more regular, right, And I

776
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 3: went back to the house and it was all locked.

777
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 3: The whole house was locked, and it was like quite quiet,

778
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 3: and then I there was like three Zachs at the party,

779
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 3: and I just remember like looking at my phone and

780
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 3: like trying to get to Zach. But it's like all

781
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,959
Speaker 3: the way. So I'm going through like everybody I've ever

782
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 3: like ever interacted well, and I'm just thinking about like

783
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 3: everybody that's ever been in my life because I'm looking at.

784
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 1: You everything they thought about where And then.

785
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 3: I can't figure it out and I am overwhelmed and

786
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 3: I can't get to Zee, and I'm just like i

787
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 3: just got to call one Zach. So then I'm like

788
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 3: banging on this door trying to get in, but I

789
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 3: scared every dingy.

790
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course now they're freaking out.

791
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 3: I like me, and this is like the type of

792
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 3: person I am, like, I'm kind of like comfort first,

793
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 3: total people pleaser, Like to send alarm to a group

794
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,399
Speaker 3: of people is like maybe the darkest place I could

795
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 3: accidentally find myself. And I har es so much and

796
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 3: I'm just like, God, I'm here, and then you know.

797
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: Everybody's like like who is out?

798
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, And it was this like total push and

799
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 3: pull of like and then finally somebody was like, Oh,

800
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 3: it's you. Where have you been? And I just was

801
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 3: like I kind of freaked out and I'm I'm here now.

802
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 3: And I think they were like all playing like ID

803
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 3: and seek or something, so like they were like in

804
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 3: the dark hiding, and then it was like.

805
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: How did someone not die? During?

806
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 3: Three people passed away? And that was one of the

807
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 3: tough ones because it was like, I think I've had

808
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 3: worse trips, but I'm on my own right, And I

809
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 3: think it was that like interfacing of like newer friends

810
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 3: and more intimate settings and kind of upsetting them where

811
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 3: I was like I carried it a lot. And what's

812
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 3: funny is I feel like if you asked anybody there,

813
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 3: their version of the story was like I said a

814
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 3: funny joke and then I like knocked a little too

815
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 3: hard on the door.

816
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: Later little did they know.

817
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just like.

818
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 1: This was like a chemical reaction. This is like what's

819
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: going on side and Adam, I can't go further.

820
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 3: I wasn't great.

821
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: They're all bouncing against each other and freaking each other out.

822
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

823
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: Wow, the domino effect of that is pretty wide.

824
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 3: It was a wild time and it like you know,

825
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 3: it evened out right bounced itself out. I aimed into

826
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 3: the house and everything was fine.

827
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: Was it one of those ones where it's like, I'm

828
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: going to take a little time off of mushrooms And

829
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 1: I was like, well, everyone has a bad experience.

830
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I was probably like, cool, I'm not

831
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 3: going to probably do that for six months two years?

832
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: Right, it was enough for the year.

833
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was good. I was good on that.

834
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: At least it wasn't boring.

835
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 3: It was electric.

836
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: I don't quite know the difference between mushrooms and acid,

837
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: like the experience.

838
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 3: Have you done either, I've done mushrooms cool, So.

839
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 1: Just once that when it was lovely and it was

840
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: like one of these things where like I don't know

841
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: if I want to have one of these experience.

842
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 3: Sure, did you get like the wavy or was it

843
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 3: just like everything?

844
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 1: But I will say it was like in twenty fourteen

845
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: when all of the Bill Cosby allegations were starting to

846
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 1: come out and ride as it started.

847
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 3: You're so sad, that is your boy crying?

848
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: Why calling my senator?

849
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 3: No?

850
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: I rides it started to hit. We were in a

851
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: cabin and they have like books, you know, and I

852
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: was wandering around the cabin and truly as a hit.

853
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 1: I found Bill Cosby's book this giant picture of his face,

854
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 1: and it was one of the weirdest experiences looking at

855
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: Bill Cosby being deeply, deeply tripping on mushrooms. Something I'll

856
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: never forget. Yeah, his face burned into my brain forever.

857
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 3: Hello.

858
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that could have really gone in a bad direction.

859
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, for sure, But it sounds it sounds

860
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 3: kind of funny.

861
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: It was kind of fun I think that they fund

862
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 1: but yeah, that's all I've ever done. And it was wonderful,

863
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: and it was wavy and very visual. I was say,

864
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: I ate some pineapple and it felt like I was

865
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: eating gold bars, that kind of thing.

866
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's the best way to kind of equate it.

867
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 3: I'm going to attempt a new analogy. I feel like

868
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 3: mushrooms is a bicycle and acid is an e bike.

869
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: Oh interesting, So one's bad.

870
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 3: One's much I think, much more intense. Or it's like

871
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 3: it's a very similar experience, Like it's a psychdelic It

872
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 3: allows you to kind of like look at something and

873
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 3: it can kind of change shape. And I think they're

874
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 3: both similar, but it's like acids twice the length. Okay,

875
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 3: I think it can get like far more intense visually,

876
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 3: far far more intense visually, and it's like technically a

877
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 3: little bit more of like an upper and it can

878
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 3: really like I think your noggin is like really turned

879
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 3: on and you're thinking very fast in your range, just

880
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 3: like unless you're kind of scared, I think, because like

881
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 3: you can push it out and then you're like, oh, whoa,

882
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 3: the clouds are turning into faces of men, right, and

883
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 3: then that's really fun and nice, right, yeah.

884
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, Whereas mushrooms it's a little more laid back, a

885
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 1: little bit more uh.

886
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 3: I think it's just not as like computeristic or like

887
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 3: it's like less tron more fern gully. Like there's just

888
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,959
Speaker 3: like an organicness and like a violin isn't the right word,

889
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 3: but it is also the right word, you know, because

890
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,720
Speaker 3: there's a lot of people who like the acids easier

891
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 3: for them because there's no tummy like it necessarily as emotional.

892
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 3: I think it's a little more cerebral, okay, and like

893
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 3: technical in a way where you're like.

894
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: It's a dude to your taxes, for example, this is

895
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: the drug you would want to be.

896
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're having like profound thoughts but I

897
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 3: don't think there. It's more like the world and like

898
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 3: the systems and like patterns and like well the leaf

899
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 3: and like you're it's not like I'm good, right, I'm

900
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 3: thankful for myself. I don't think it's as emotional.

901
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 1: Interesting. Yeah, very interesting, And do remember the first time

902
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 1: you did either?

903
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 3: For sure? First time I tried acid was with like

904
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 3: a really great friend Roger of mine, and we were

905
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,240
Speaker 3: at a like the maybe one of the most grimy

906
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 3: parties in like Chino, California that I could ever go to.

907
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 3: It's just like such a fucking just one of those

908
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 3: like sticky. It's like the house becomes sticky. Oh and

909
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 3: we we took acid and it was bunk and we

910
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 3: just kind of like waited for it us to get high,

911
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 3: and it never really quite quite worked, you know.

912
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: So they're just like what why did people do this?

913
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 3: Why are we? Yeah, and then I didn't try it

914
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 3: for years because I was like, oh, it's kind of

915
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 3: an omen like maybe I'm not supposed to do this mark.

916
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 1: Yeah.

917
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 3: First time I did mushrooms was at a music festival

918
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 3: in eastern Washington called Sasquatch Okay, And it was like

919
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 3: I was in my I was like twenty three, and

920
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:33,720
Speaker 3: me and my guys fucking road tripped up and camped

921
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 3: in like a cow field and saw all these bands

922
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,879
Speaker 3: over three days, and the first night it was really

923
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 3: cool and we were just like enjoyed a full day

924
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 3: of this festival. First time I'd ever been to a

925
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 3: music festival. And We're walking back to camp and I

926
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 3: was like kind of walking alone, and there was just

927
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 3: a dude walking the opposite way, so he was like

928
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 3: kind of headed back towards the venue, sure, and he

929
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 3: just was like, mushrooms twenty five bucks, mushrooms twenty five bucks.

930
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: Very peanuts, hot peanuts, five.

931
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:10,760
Speaker 3: Hot peanut, hot peanut, And uh I had twenty five bucks.

932
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 3: It's like literally the master that I.

933
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: Had, who ever has twenty five dollars, come, I must

934
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: have broken that other twenty for fifteen dollars chicken tender

935
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 1: or something like that.

936
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 3: And uh I just it was kind of a no

937
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 3: thought situation where I was like, this guy's got them.

938
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 3: I'm like at this sort of like a place where.

939
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 1: You do that makes perfect sense.

940
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,959
Speaker 3: And me and a buddy split the bag. We split

941
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,240
Speaker 3: in eighth the mushrooms and just like completely tripped sack

942
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 3: and we're just It was one of those where I'm

943
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 3: just like laid back, staring at the sky, seeing like

944
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 3: the grid and like seeing it open and being like,

945
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 3: there's so much more and I remember, this is very

946
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 3: silly and who knows, but I remember seeing like people

947
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 3: like angels or like humanoid so you could write the

948
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 3: book maybe maybe.

949
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 1: You shouldn't have to die. You were seeing people at angels.

950
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 3: But they were like seeing me, being like, you're not

951
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 3: supposed to see us.

952
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: It was Nancy Reagan's ghost. You aren't supposed to be

953
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:14,439
Speaker 1: on drugs right now here?

954
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 3: What are you doing? And that was really funny that

955
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 3: all these like people were like beyond the veil being

956
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,479
Speaker 3: like whoa, hey man, how are you seeing this man?

957
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 3: And it was just so fun. Wow, it was so

958
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 3: fun And it was just like one of those like

959
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,720
Speaker 3: I'm perfectly young and like, I mean, I'm just experiencing

960
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 3: why right, And it was really really cool and transformative.

961
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 3: And I always thought mushrooms were gonna be like then

962
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 3: I have to fucking get dreads and like then all

963
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 3: I talk about is how everybody needs to like transform

964
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 3: And it was not that at all, Just like I

965
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:52,439
Speaker 3: did it. It was great.

966
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: It was like a little ride you get to go

967
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: on and then you get to continue being yourself.

968
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I said, you know. I was like, you guys

969
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 3: should try mushrooms. It was pretty fun, but I wasn't

970
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 3: like proselytizing personality. Yeah, that would make fear of mine.

971
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 3: I think that was why it was very apprehensive. For

972
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:09,240
Speaker 3: a long time. A lot of people high school early

973
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 3: college were experimenting with that stuff, and I was like

974
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 3: that kind of like I don't want to be full hippie.

975
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 1: Right that. I feel like that should be more of

976
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 1: anti drug programs, just like you don't want to be annoying.

977
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 3: You don't want to be like a fucking hippie, right, Yeah, No.

978
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 1: One wants to be annoying. I think that would probably

979
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: be more effective than being like, well, you're gonna have

980
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: the best time of your life, yeah, and then you'll

981
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 1: want to keep doing well. Okay, people aren't.

982
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 3: Going to think you're chill. That would immediately make me

983
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 3: be like I want to do never. I won't to

984
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 3: be chill.

985
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,280
Speaker 1: Did you see any music while you were tripping?

986
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, did you see oh man? I remember

987
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:53,280
Speaker 3: seeing Bonie Verka, which was very like kind of boring

988
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 3: to me.

989
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: I'm glad to hear this. I'm not you're not a fan.

990
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was kind of boring. And then what was

991
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 3: really awesome was my friends loved bony Ver and I

992
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 3: was like this kind of sucks. I'm gonna go, and

993
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 3: they're like, you can't leave, and I just was like,

994
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 3: meet me here, well, meet here at the end of

995
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 3: the night, and I went and saw the lead singer

996
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 3: of LCD sound System did a DJ set, but he

997
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 3: brought a live black choir whoa, and so it was

998
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 3: like this he was playing like gospel music, like E

999
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 3: EDM gospel music, and it was fucking awesome. And it

1000
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 3: was in a tent and it was like just like

1001
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 3: dancing and it was like so much more fun than

1002
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 3: bony Bear, where everybody was just like on their blankets.

1003
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and this was just like but it was

1004
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 3: also like had that sound liveliness, yes, yes, and like

1005
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 3: that sort of like you know, they're like commanding energy

1006
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 3: and they're like harnessing energy in a way that was

1007
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 3: like so fun.

1008
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,240
Speaker 1: Were they in like choir robes.

1009
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 3: It was like they're on a coral riser and he

1010
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 3: was like doing his like spinning, doing the dj shit

1011
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 3: and then they would like sing the hooks and stuff

1012
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 3: like that. It was so cool cool.

1013
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, why is he still not doing that?

1014
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 3: I don't know. And it was like one of those

1015
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,720
Speaker 3: things where it's like I didn't really know who LCD

1016
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 3: sound System was at that point in time. It was

1017
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 3: just like I don't want to missay his name, James Murphy. Yeah,

1018
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 3: it was just like build as like James Murphy DJ set.

1019
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 3: I was like, who's this, who's.

1020
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: The Mormon Tabernacle quay? Yeah, Wow, that sounds delightful.

1021
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 3: It was really special. Yeah.

1022
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:36,280
Speaker 1: Do you go to a lot of music festivals?

1023
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 3: Not anymore? Not anymore. I went we like went to

1024
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 3: that one, kind of got hooked, and then we went

1025
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:45,280
Speaker 3: for like several years, you know, three or four years,

1026
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 3: and then it closed. It was like no longer.

1027
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 1: What was this one called again?

1028
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 3: Sasquat Sasquatch?

1029
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, Like for.

1030
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 3: Whatever reason, they're like, we're not doing it anymore. And

1031
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 3: then I kind of stopped and I never went to Coachella.

1032
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 1: Coachella sounds too dusty.

1033
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 3: Too dusty. There was a little one. It still kind

1034
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 3: of exists in La. I think it was like fyf

1035
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 3: yess and that would be cool. It'd be like down

1036
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 3: at USC like kind of like near the coliseum.

1037
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: Right within driving distance.

1038
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was really fun. Like stuff like that I

1039
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 3: think is great. But I think as as like the

1040
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 3: older I get, it's like, do I want to stand

1041
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 3: around for nine hours? Right? See? Like probably like two

1042
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 3: good acts in a span of ten.

1043
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: Acts or whatever, just under the beating sum.

1044
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm more like I go to gigs a lot.

1045
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 3: I still love going to punk music and going to

1046
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 3: underground shows and stuff like. That's what I like. Where

1047
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 3: I'm like two hours, three hours.

1048
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 1: Even that's almost too much. Yeah, when I go see

1049
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: a favorite band, I'm like, by the encore, I'm essentially

1050
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,240
Speaker 1: like holding the keys in my pocket.

1051
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 3: Are you going to the opener?

1052
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: If I like them, if I've heard of them, or

1053
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:54,919
Speaker 1: if I really like the band and trust their taste.

1054
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, see, that's what I like too. It's like maybe

1055
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 3: they're going to put me on and I'll have a

1056
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 3: new friend, yes experience.

1057
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,399
Speaker 1: If it's a band that I'm like just you know,

1058
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 1: seventy percent liking, we'll be like, well, I don't need

1059
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,439
Speaker 1: to waste my time with whatever crap band they've gotten

1060
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 1: in front of me, what was least concert you saw.

1061
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 3: I went and saw this really cool punk band, hardcore

1062
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 3: punk band out of Olympia, Washington called Electric Chair. Oh,

1063
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:27,399
Speaker 3: and they're just like the lead singers just like one

1064
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 3: of these guys who's just like got so much energy

1065
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 3: and he's just such a showman. And the band's really

1066
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 3: good and tight, and they like they're clearly rehearsed and

1067
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,800
Speaker 3: tour all the time, right, and he's just like jumping

1068
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 3: around and doing somersaults and like slamming his body around

1069
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 3: and it's like really a great perforce.

1070
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, where did this take place?

1071
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 3: It's at this place called Five Star Bar in Downtown LA.

1072
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 3: That was a pretty iconic punk place in downtown LA

1073
00:51:56,320 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 3: for a while that closed. And then my buddy Dice,

1074
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 3: who's like a really big part of like kind of

1075
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 3: the DIY punk community in East LA in Los Angeles,

1076
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 3: he's running like a lot of really cool underground venues,

1077
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 3: gray Market venues, and he and his buddies were like,

1078
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 3: we're gonna re open up Five Star Bar to kind

1079
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,760
Speaker 3: of have like a place for this community to exist.

1080
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 3: And he's kind of like it's been a kind of

1081
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 3: his own undertaking and he's like revived it in a

1082
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 3: really cool, fun way. And it's cool to see like

1083
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:33,760
Speaker 3: the city have like a more you know above ground

1084
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:39,240
Speaker 3: rue to exist.

1085
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,280
Speaker 1: And the basement or whatever.

1086
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, like you know a hole in the wall and

1087
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,919
Speaker 3: skin row right, you know, which is fun and that's sure,

1088
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 3: you know, that's where you should go see a bunch

1089
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 3: of but it's also nice to just be like I

1090
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 3: can get a beer and like there's parking.

1091
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like the closest I've ever come to that,

1092
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: And I feel like this is like the top is

1093
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: the smell the smell?

1094
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so it's right next to the smelling literally

1095
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 3: like kidty Cat corner to the smell. It's like five

1096
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 3: star bars here, there's a parking lot the alleyway. They're

1097
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 3: like right there. The smells awesome. That's an LA institution.

1098
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 3: Those guys are so great. They like have held it

1099
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 3: down for so many years. So many great bands come

1100
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 3: out of.

1101
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,919
Speaker 1: The Oh yeah, it's really been there in years, but

1102
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 1: I'm glad it's still open.

1103
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 3: It's one of those places that like is always going

1104
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 3: to be the same. There's always going to be like

1105
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 3: young kids drinking beer and nicely.

1106
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: That's just kind of a thing. That it's part of nature. Yes, yeah,

1107
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 1: you can't get.

1108
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 3: Rid of it. It's just a cycle. Yeah.

1109
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it gives you a little bit of hope.

1110
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:36,439
Speaker 3: What was the last show that you saw?

1111
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: Mm? Oh, I wish I had a memory.

1112
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 3: I wish I had him.

1113
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: I saw a Destroyer, which is not punk.

1114
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 3: It's I feel like I've seen it on Spotify.

1115
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's this guy, Dan Bahar and a band that

1116
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:58,760
Speaker 1: are kind of I would say, I'm not super easy

1117
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 1: to describe because every one of his albums is kind

1118
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 1: of its own thing. Cool but a little I don't

1119
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: know it even in the realm of like who I

1120
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 1: would compare it to historically with music maybe in the

1121
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 1: same like a little bit Brian Eno or glammy slightly

1122
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 1: but indie rock to cool, a little New ordery sometimes.

1123
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, how this is shaping fantastic? I'm in

1124
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm on. Have you ever heard you've

1125
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:29,240
Speaker 3: ever listened to music at airports?

1126
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 1: Of course? I used to listen to it when I

1127
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: would do my laundry in New York, sit at the laundromat.

1128
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 3: Just it's so good. I have it on vinyl. It's

1129
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 3: like one of my favorite things to play it beautiful.

1130
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, and his four like I guess rock or

1131
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 1: pop albums whatever you would call me Murray singing four

1132
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 1: of my favorite albums of all time.

1133
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,280
Speaker 3: Sure, he's so good, so amazing.

1134
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 1: He's gone on to produce some real I mean produce

1135
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: bands that I'm not super into.

1136
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 3: That happens, so you've got to make a buck.

1137
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 2: Bill.

1138
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: He's one of our great I have what's it called

1139
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 1: oblique strategies. They made an app of it.

1140
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 3: Do you know what?

1141
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,240
Speaker 1: Are you familiar with this? He created this like card

1142
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: thing in the seventies with we should I'm gonna try

1143
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: it right now. But it has like basically these different

1144
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 1: directives and you would pull a card from the deck,

1145
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 1: like I think when they would be at a standstill

1146
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 1: in the studio or whatever, they would draw card and

1147
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: then like creatively, they would follow that directive.

1148
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 3: Okay, so let's.

1149
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 1: See, and I don't think Brian Needo created this app Well,

1150
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: this one says take a break. That's not very interesting.

1151
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 3: Come on, let's see. Let's I've been working hard enough.

1152
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: Okay, now this is yeah exactly. This one says allow

1153
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 1: an easement, allow and then in parentheses and easement is

1154
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: the abandonment of a stricture. So I mean you just

1155
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,399
Speaker 1: do what you do, whatever you want with that.

1156
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 3: And so it was designed to inspire music choice.

1157
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:54,280
Speaker 1: I think initially jam.

1158
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 3: And what this jam is inspired by the idea of

1159
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 3: adding an easement.

1160
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: Right, and whatever that means to So I think it's

1161
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, brain spark something. But I'll look at

1162
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 1: that occasionally and it does almost nothing for me.

1163
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 3: Sure it does, true, but you might need a drum

1164
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 3: kit ye or something.

1165
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: But I think it's for creatives, maybe something you can

1166
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 1: at least distract yourself with for a minute. But Brian,

1167
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: you know, oh my god, I just adore that's so cool.

1168
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: Well I think I mean, before I bore everyone everyone

1169
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:25,839
Speaker 1: to death with Brian Eno, I think we should play

1170
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 1: a game.

1171
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:26,919
Speaker 3: Let's play a game.

1172
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 1: We're going to play a game called Gift Master. But first,

1173
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: any to number between one and ten from you?

1174
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 3: Do? I tell you it?

1175
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:32,919
Speaker 2: Yes?

1176
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 1: Yes, seven, Okay, I have to do some like calculating

1177
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: to get our game pieces. Right now, you can promote, recommend,

1178
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:39,359
Speaker 1: do whatever you want.

1179
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 3: Cool, you're right back. Yeah, Hi, guys, I'm just going

1180
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:47,399
Speaker 3: to promote good health and wellness. Drink your water, take

1181
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 3: a deep breath with me, in through the nose and

1182
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,800
Speaker 3: out through the mouth. Let's do one those huh guys

1183
00:56:54,960 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 3: for health and wellness out through the mouth. Now, think

1184
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 3: about something you want to accomplish today, this week, or

1185
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 3: maybe this year. Visualize it. I'm visualizing it with you.

1186
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 3: Send it to me and I'll send you mine sending

1187
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 3: it to you. Wow. Think about how real that is

1188
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 3: and I hope that happens for you.

1189
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: Wow. What an excellent use of that time. Anyone listening

1190
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 1: to the podcast is now driven off the road. If

1191
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 1: they hadn't already.

1192
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 3: Might need to like drop back. A warning, a coziness warning.

1193
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 1: Please be fully awake and alert. Okay, this is how

1194
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: we play gift master. I'm going to name three things,

1195
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: three gifts that you can give away, items, experiences, whatever.

1196
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 1: I'm going to name three celebrities and you can tell

1197
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: me which celebrity you would give which gift. Oh fun,

1198
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:48,439
Speaker 1: Does that make perfect sense?

1199
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 3: That makes perfect sense?

1200
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 1: All right? The gifts you'll be giving today are number one,

1201
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 1: a good look in the mirror, Number two a short

1202
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 1: lived but beloved dramedy. That's a nice gift, and number

1203
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: three an in home urinal. Got it, I've somebody's in

1204
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: home urinal before and I prefer to flex. It's a flex,

1205
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 1: but it's in what direction?

1206
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 3: Hey? Can I just say, and this is going to

1207
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 3: be polarizing, just pissing your sink?

1208
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 1: Just what's it for?

1209
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 3: Same thing? It's the same thing.

1210
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: It's got a drain. If it's got a drain, you

1211
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: can rhyme let it rain.

1212
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:23,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go.

1213
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 1: The celebrities are number one Malia Obama, okay, up and

1214
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: coming entertainment something. I think she was a writer or something.

1215
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 1: Stephen King great and number three Barbara Corcoran. Do you

1216
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 1: know who that is?

1217
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 3: I don't think I know.

1218
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 1: Barbie kind of bob wa Yeah, there you go. She's

1219
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 1: an entrepreneur, she's a real estate mogul. Yeah, and she's

1220
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 1: got a heart of gold at least on the show.

1221
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 3: Okay, so we've got the pisser, we've got a good

1222
00:58:58,040 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 3: look in the mirror.

1223
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 1: Remind me of short lived but beloved dramedy.

1224
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 3: Sure lived but beloved dramedy. I think we'll give Bob.

1225
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 3: I think Baba gets a good look in the mirror. Okay,

1226
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 3: because what are you doing? What is this show? What

1227
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 3: is your life? Do you really need it? You got

1228
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 3: enough cash.

1229
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 1: You've been doing Shark Tank for how many years?

1230
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 3: Seventy?

1231
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, at least years. She's about one hundred and thirty

1232
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 1: years old.

1233
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 3: A cackling at this point. It's it's dark magic keeping

1234
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 3: her afloat. Get a hobby, baba, come on, start fucking

1235
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 3: start taking up photography. Get a dark room. You can

1236
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 3: afford it.

1237
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 1: I'm sure you have the eye for it.

1238
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think I'd give her a long look in

1239
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 3: the mirror, and she probably love it. I think there's

1240
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 3: something going on here that she'd be like, look at that,

1241
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 3: Look how good it all is.

1242
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 1: She's had some very good work done. Appreciate the work

1243
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 1: you've had done.

1244
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 3: I think Stephen can get the drama edy. I think

1245
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 3: he'd appreciate the story.

1246
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 1: He's not getting a lot of dramedis on TV. He's

1247
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 1: not known for his soft comedy.

1248
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not going subtle. Yeah.

1249
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 1: I wonder what the closest thing he has to a dramedy.

1250
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 3: He just I imagine him. It's Yeah, there's a little

1251
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 3: bit of or with thinner is like kind of cheeky,

1252
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 3: a little bit desperation, which is like Roy Buchanan, which

1253
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 3: is I think is a pseudonym.

1254
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 1: Oh he has other another person writing books as well.

1255
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sure a factory at this point.

1256
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm saying like I think I believe he's

1257
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 1: writing them, but he can't stop that he had to

1258
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 1: create a pole.

1259
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 3: I think I could be so wrong, and that's totally fine,

1260
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 3: and I don't care that's true. But yeah, the desperation

1261
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 3: is like funny. Oh, there's there's like dark humor.

1262
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 1: Interesting.

1263
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 3: The cop character is like very like he's like a

1264
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 3: cheeky bastard. But I also just kind of love the

1265
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 3: idea of like Stephen King watching like the first season

1266
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 3: of Skins.

1267
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 1: Stephen King's Freaks and gigs. Yeah, I think that's nice. Yeah,

1268
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 1: kind of a late career turn for him.

1269
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean why not try and get it,

1270
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 3: try and get into a different cash revenue. Right, I'm

1271
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 3: sure he's got it. Right. If you can be bad that,

1272
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 3: I think you could also be good. You're just kind

1273
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 3: of put in the mirror the other one, right, just

1274
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 3: a mirror. And then Malia gets whatever the last one is.

1275
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 1: She gets the in home urinal.

1276
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's just sort of like, uh.

1277
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 1: She's probably already got everything she could possibly ask for. God.

1278
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think maybe it'll give her something to like.

1279
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 3: They can roast her about it and that'll humber horror.

1280
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 3: And that's probably right to be a president's daughter who

1281
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 3: she does blast SIGs, which is I think is oh interesting.

1282
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 3: Gen Z. Yeah, I think that's pretty cool daddy's daughter.

1283
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 1: I think he's shopped.

1284
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 3: He did, but he was, he was blasting SIGs.

1285
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, you love you know, you're the president of the

1286
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 1: United States.

1287
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 3: Have a focus, cigaret brother, Come on.

1288
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 1: The way, this podcast has become pro smoking is so.

1289
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 3: We're gonna from him in the pocket of big Nickeds.

1290
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 3: I want you to know.

1291
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 1: The Surgeon General is coming for us. Yeah.

1292
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 3: I got drove here in a Winston Company car, in.

1293
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 1: A giant cigarette shake car like themobile.

1294
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 3: It's pretty cool that you can light it.

1295
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 1: The exhaust comes out in the back.

1296
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you get fast.

1297
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 1: Why haven't they done that bad move on their part?

1298
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 3: You know, I'll call, I'll call. Give you can touch, Yeah,

1299
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 3: I can get. I can get up the ladder for sure.

1300
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 1: Get them on the phone. Get the cigarette machine going. Well,

1301
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 1: you played it perfectly, Thank you, very thoughtful.

1302
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 3: I was nervous. I was going to fucking with it

1303
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 3: in the game.

1304
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 1: No, you did perfectly. And all these people are going

1305
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 1: to appreciate their gifts.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're welcome, I hope.

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Speaker 1: So now we need to answer a listener question. People

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01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 1: are writing into I said, no gifts at gmail dot com,

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01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 1: or they're sending voice notes. The voice notes have to

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Speaker 1: be sixty seconds long and in a quiet space. That

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Speaker 1: makes sense, doesn't listener. But today we're going to read one.

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Speaker 1: We help me answer a question. Absolutely all right, this

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Speaker 1: is dear Bridger and hopefully tolerable guest. Okay, I mean

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Speaker 1: that's a little.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I'm you're sort of already creating a bias

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Speaker 3: and how I'm going to interface with you and sort

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01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 3: of the level of kindness and empathy the whole like

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Speaker 3: you can find your whole dream things.

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01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 1: Fucks out out the window, out of the window. This

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Speaker 1: is after returning home from our vacation two days ago,

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01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 1: my partner and I discovered our apartment has been invaded

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Speaker 1: by fruitflies and ants. We had a new house slash

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Speaker 1: dog sitter, so we're assuming although we are certain they

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Speaker 1: are the cause of this pest issue. Should I get

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Speaker 1: in touch with them to ask about the situation or

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Speaker 1: is it better to leave it alone. I'm worried they

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01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 1: might be butt hurt. Butt hurt. Okay, okay, however, they

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01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 1: are supposed to sit for us again next month, and

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Speaker 1: I would like to prevent this from happening again. Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, eagerly and anticipating your incredibly uplifting and faultless recommendations. Okay,

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01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 1: now they're trying to win us over. Have a great day.

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01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 1: Danny ps high on Elise. I don't know who that's

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01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 1: in reference to.

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Speaker 3: Fucking grow up.

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01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 1: Grow up is what everyone needs to do.

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01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 3: This is so lamb fucking grow up.

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01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 1: You're making good on your promise.

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01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 3: I'm pissed you.

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01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 1: You're upset to begin with.

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01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 3: I got a fucking problem. There's ants in my house.

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01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 3: Grow up, dude, that shit happens house. Yeah, they're fucking

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01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 3: with my gig. That's crazy. Why do you have to?

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01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 3: I guess my question is why does this issue? That

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01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 3: is like fairly common And you probably left town with

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01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 3: fucking fruit and no bowl.

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01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 1: Right, You probably left just crumbs all over the count.

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01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 3: They're probably an old banana in a basket.

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01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 1: Floor needed to be swept.

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01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 3: Yes, why can't there just be ants in your house?

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01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 3: Because nobody was around.

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01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 1: Why does it have to be the fault of somebody

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01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 1: because this person hasn't looked within. Yeah, and they were

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01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 1: going in there. That's why they're constantly escaping to vacations.

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01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 1: They're running away from a champagne problem. It's a champagne problem.

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01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 3: A guy watching my ship while I'm having a good time.

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01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, you had to have a little bit of

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01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 3: reality in your life. Man.

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01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 1: Well, and I feel like the solution here is just

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Speaker 1: live with it. The person comes around. If it is

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01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 1: their fault, they'll live with it as well. Ultimately it

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01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 1: will pass.

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01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, eight billion people. Find another guy.

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01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, find another guy. Cut this person out of your life.

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01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 3: Really that hard. There's somebody who's the people need money,

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01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 3: there's people look into dogsit.

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01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 1: And yeah, throw a rock you'll find somebody. Is that

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01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 1: the phrase? And also get some of them. Have you

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01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 1: ever heard of the magic ant chalk.

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01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 3: That that don't cross the line.

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Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. I think it probably immediately gives you cancer

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01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 1: for sure, because I think it's illegal. But you use

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Speaker 1: this stuff, the ants, I've never seen anything like this.

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01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 1: Anything is effective in any category really, but it's hard.

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Speaker 3: To find, so it's different than regular chalk.

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Speaker 1: It's as far as I know. Okay, it says I

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01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 1: think it says like magic ant chalk.

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01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 3: Well, because I know I've heard of the chalk like

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01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 3: I've done the chalk line just.

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01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 1: And it worked.

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01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, just chalk.

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01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 1: Interesting. So maybe the magic chalk people are just it's branding.

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01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 3: I bet you it's just branding. Or it's like a

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01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 3: type of chalk that maybe it's like a more like

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01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 3: more gets off. Oh you know, I'm pontificating it.

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01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's just too much chalk. And that's why

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01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:14,479
Speaker 1: it becomes legal. You can only have so much chalk.

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Speaker 3: It starts getting weird.

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01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 1: We'll get some regular chalk and put it all over

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Speaker 1: your house.

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01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. Man, this sky pissed me off

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01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 3: pretty quick. This person piss me off pretty quick.

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Speaker 1: It's d A and I so Danny whoever you are.

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01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 3: And hey, thanks for listening to the pod. I hope

1394
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 3: you like it. Subscribe to the Patreon. There's a lot

1395
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 3: of great stuff over there.

1396
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 1: And uh, yeah you owe Jacob.

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01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would fucking venmomy five bucks. Dude, I'm helping you.

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01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 3: I'm giving. There's not a lot of people in the

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01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 3: world that'll throw a hammer and just be like, hey,

1400
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 3: check your shit. I think we need a little bit.

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01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 1: More in the dose of reality. Come on, America needs.

1402
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 1: We need to be eating as a family. Mystique and

1403
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 1: a dosive rehalit.

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01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 3: A little bit of slap of the face of what's

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01:06:58,000 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 3: really going on.

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01:06:58,680 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 1: That's how we turn things over.

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01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 3: Easy to write an email to a podcast about hands.

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01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 3: I don't want to be like I think I nam

1409
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 3: slightly going into actually being a little rude territory. But

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01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 3: the more I zoom out, it's like, what's going on, man,

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01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 3: they're having a big problem. You have a friend to call.

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01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 1: They have a friend in me.

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01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:17,400
Speaker 3: That's right.

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01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 1: They expected me to be on their side this time,

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01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 1: and unfortunately they were wrong.

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01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 3: Serious apologies, Danny.

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Speaker 1: He's not sorry.

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01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 3: No, no, but I can't lose a fan. You can't

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01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 3: take it back, take it back quickly.

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Speaker 1: This is bad for your career, Jacob.

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01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 3: This is gonna ruin me.

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01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 1: I'm going to get buried to think about the bottom line.

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01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 1: He's sorry. He doesn't want to end up up at

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01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 1: delightful dinners.

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01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 3: No, I can't go back.

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01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:46,439
Speaker 1: You can't go back to delightful dinner.

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01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 3: My hands are too soft. Now, I don't think they'd

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Speaker 3: handle it.

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01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 1: Well, we answered the question perfectly. I think so I

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Speaker 1: have my drugs.

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01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:56,920
Speaker 3: Yeah. I hope you enjoy it, of course. Yeah, at

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Speaker 3: least they find it. I hope they find a good home,

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01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 3: of course. Yeah, don't take a boat tabs of acid

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01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 3: one right before I drive home.

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01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:04,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that'll be the rest of my day.

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01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll hear about them Monday, same time.

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01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll take both at the same time.

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01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 3: Fine, split it with a friend experience.

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01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 1: Okay, I've had such a nice time with you.

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01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 3: This is a really fun time.

1441
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:16,799
Speaker 1: Thank you for being here. Of course, listener, the podcast

1442
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 1: is over.

1443
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:18,760
Speaker 3: Of course.

1444
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 1: You know that you're denying it. You're scratching your clawing

1445
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:23,559
Speaker 1: trying to keep.

1446
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:26,639
Speaker 3: It going and out of win win the bar.

1447
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 1: On their iPhone, and there's really nothing you can do.

1448
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:35,800
Speaker 1: We've all been speeding towards a conclusion, and here we are.

1449
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:44,559
Speaker 1: It's over. I love you, goodbye, I said. No Gifts

1450
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 1: is an exactly right production. Our senior producer is on

1451
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:52,440
Speaker 1: Alisa Nelson, and our episodes are beautifully mixed by Ben Tolliday.

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01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 1: The theme song is by Miracle Worker Amy Mann, and

1453
01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 1: we couldn't do it without our booker, Patrick Cottner. You

1454
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 1: must followed the show on Instagram. At I said, no gifts.

1455
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:04,639
Speaker 1: That's where you're going to see pictures of all these

1456
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 1: wonderful gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see

1457
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 1: the gifts?

1458
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:10,839
Speaker 3: And I invited you hear.

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01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 2: Thought, I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest

1460
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 2: to my home, you gotta come to me empty. And

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01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:31,479
Speaker 2: I said, no gifts. You're our presences presents enough. I

1462
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:36,599
Speaker 2: already had too much stuff, So how do you dare

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01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 2: to survey me