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Speaker 1: at the Star in Frisco. Bill Jones, Everson Walls. We
Speaker 1: were here last week. Mickey Spagnola was not here last week?
Speaker 1: Is anything happy? Mickey wasn't here last week? He wasn't
Speaker 1: You didn't know. I wasn't remember. He was on a
Speaker 1: ski slope somewhere. Oh and I was sitting over there, right, yes, right, yeah.
Speaker 1: When I sat there, I was hoping. I was thinking
Speaker 1: that the chair would make me like cranky, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. But it didn't. I was like the
Speaker 1: same person all over. It helped you be knowledgeable, No,
Speaker 1: it did not pass it off to you. You did
Speaker 1: not know I was. You don't have to save the
Speaker 1: show because I was definitely dragging it down with your
Speaker 1: energy from your chick I was. I was thinking about
Speaker 1: your guys, your Oh yeah, I didn't call in. I
Speaker 1: almost I almost called in. Didn't feel the energy where
Speaker 1: you saying Chris going down to the old bunny Hill. Ye,
Speaker 1: not the black Diamond, He's going down the bunny hill
Speaker 1: Bunny Hill A four? Yeah, of course three. Um. Oh,
Speaker 1: you didn't come in on crutches. So that's a good thing. Goodness,
Speaker 1: my achilles passed the test. How many times have you
Speaker 1: been on the ir man many times you got hurt?
Speaker 1: Ir Yeah? Like okay, okay, okay, okay, you probably count
Speaker 1: that probably four times, four times, four times? And how
Speaker 1: many years? I think the first time it was like
Speaker 1: but how forty some years ago? Okay? Wow? So in
Speaker 1: the last like it's like five years, it's been like
Speaker 1: three times three yeah. Wow, that's a lot. You're starting
Speaker 1: to break down. That's why, that's why you can't sign
Speaker 1: these over thirty year old right, right, careful better be
Speaker 1: careful with the guaranteed right. I haven't had any guaranteed
Speaker 1: any well. Uh. And it was a time, by the way,
Speaker 1: you had a good time. You needed a ding? Yes
Speaker 1: was your tan? I mean I was covered up? It
Speaker 1: got colder. Where were you Summit County in Colorado? Okay? Um,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you one funny story. First day finished, we
Speaker 1: were at the top going to ski down one more time,
Speaker 1: and that was it. Took a break when he got
Speaker 1: some water warmed up, came out. My skis were missing. WHOA,
Speaker 1: no skis. They weren't there. Someone took them, lying, bro, no,
Speaker 1: So it gets funnier. Okay. So I I kinda hung
Speaker 1: around for a while, right like outside the upper Mountain house,
Speaker 1: there's like four racks of skis and I knew where
Speaker 1: I put mine. They weren't there, So I kind of
Speaker 1: waited and said, okay, maybe somebody by mistake took them. Right,
Speaker 1: So I started looking around and I found another pair
Speaker 1: of skis that were exactly like mine, except the poles
Speaker 1: were different. They had red handles, and I'm going, Okay,
Speaker 1: somebody can't be that stupid to take mine and not
Speaker 1: notice the poles on the handles on my poles are
Speaker 1: black and his were red. Right, that little distinction is
Speaker 1: that's huge? Okay? Okay, So I hung around, hung around,
Speaker 1: and it was getting ready to close up, and those
Speaker 1: skis were still there, and I'm going that guy took
Speaker 1: my skis, But I said, what are the chances that
Speaker 1: he took my skis and his foot his boot fit
Speaker 1: in my bike, right, so you have to have another
Speaker 1: little pits. I was sitting there, yeah, and what are
Speaker 1: the chances somebody's gotta side. So I was sitting there
Speaker 1: and my wife goes, well, see if those fit you,
Speaker 1: and I go, well, there's no way that's going to happen.
Speaker 1: So they fit right. So I took a picture of
Speaker 1: the skis and they told me to go down to
Speaker 1: Lost and Found. When I get down, so I had
Speaker 1: to ride the iron gondle down on looking right. Well,
Speaker 1: so I didn't it sounds like lack of playing to me, Chris.
Speaker 1: So you know what, there was a sticker on the
Speaker 1: guys on the guy's skis. It had his name on there, right,
Speaker 1: So I took a picture. I go down to the
Speaker 1: Loss and Found where they told me, and the guy says, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what, if we got his name, we can
Speaker 1: look up his left ticket and track him down and
Speaker 1: see if he took your skis because I left the
Speaker 1: other ones up there right, So he was waiting on
Speaker 1: somebody else and he said, okay, we need to fill
Speaker 1: out this form. So we started filling out the form
Speaker 1: and I showed them the name on the skis, and
Speaker 1: he repeated it and had the guy's address, so it
Speaker 1: must have bottom. Right, there's a guy standing next to
Speaker 1: me and he goes, wait a minute, that's me. Oh,
Speaker 1: he took my skis. He had him in his car
Speaker 1: on the rack, and then he realized that the polls
Speaker 1: were different and he came back to see if something,
Speaker 1: but see nobody. That's small distinction. That's tough too. You
Speaker 1: know what are the chances though? The guy was standing
Speaker 1: right there, Oh he was. He was a little bit taller,
Speaker 1: not much, so I marched him right to his car
Speaker 1: to get my skis. I said, they might send years down,
Speaker 1: but give me my skis. And you know what. The
Speaker 1: moral of the story is, skis no the moral. The
Speaker 1: moral of that story is that the cowboys haven't done
Speaker 1: squatting free agency. Because we're talking about Mickey's skis the
Speaker 1: first five minutes. What do you mean, Yeah, I have
Speaker 1: nothing to talk about, other teams to talk about, not
Speaker 1: on the verge of signing Dooran's armstrong. You're not excited?
Speaker 1: The only the only yeah we can talk about? Not
Speaker 1: what not signings we had. Let's talk about how about
Speaker 1: that one? I got a long list. I bet you
Speaker 1: do well that I'm wanted the top of the list,
Speaker 1: go right to the top. Yeah, where were you starting?
Speaker 1: There's so much to do. Gotta start. We gotta start
Speaker 1: with Come on, we gotta start with Randy. Guys. Come on,
Speaker 1: let's just start. Yeah, man, let's go. Let's just get
Speaker 1: it out. I mean, what do you think happened? I mean,
Speaker 1: what was the what was the I don't deciding factor?
Speaker 1: Is it that obvious that the man just wants to
Speaker 1: go somewhere week and smoke some week? Is it that obvious?
Speaker 1: Come on, having been in Colorado for a week where
Speaker 1: it's legal, Well, it's legal. I'm sure you smelled it
Speaker 1: at the airport as soon as you came in. The
Speaker 1: dispensaries are about as plentiful as seven eleven. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've been there. I've been there every corner by the way. No,
Speaker 1: I don't you know what. I'm not sure he wanted
Speaker 1: to be here. I don't know why, and he didn't
Speaker 1: have the nerve to tell Jerry No wait wait, Okay
Speaker 1: said again he I don't think he I think his
Speaker 1: agent wanted him in Denver. Okay. Schaefer is based in Denver,
Speaker 1: by the way, But but is that a factor Your
Speaker 1: agent tells you that, I think Jerry talked him into it,
Speaker 1: and then at the last minute it was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna come up with some menial excuse for not
Speaker 1: saying so the agents running everything you're telling me, Randy
Speaker 1: Gregory well has no say in his own future when
Speaker 1: you're talking no, I think he didn't. I think he
Speaker 1: wanted to go to Denver and he didn't have the
Speaker 1: nerve to tell Jerry no. So we So you think
Speaker 1: that after all that we've been through together, you know,
Speaker 1: bringing him out of you know, really from being out
Speaker 1: of the league, hanging on to him, having trust in
Speaker 1: him kind of you know, molding him a little bit,
Speaker 1: making sure he's okay, give him a chance to to
Speaker 1: have a new a second career, and then to him
Speaker 1: feel indignant that the Cowboys didn't trust him and had
Speaker 1: that in his contract. Come after what they've been through
Speaker 1: with him. Yeah, how long was this was this? Well,
Speaker 1: it's been sick years, right, he was a two twenty
Speaker 1: fifteen draft choice, right, but he only bet seven seas. Yeah,
Speaker 1: five five years of but but you know, going through
Speaker 1: all the ups and downs together, right, Yeah, together. You
Speaker 1: would think that he would say, you know what, this
Speaker 1: is my place, this is what I'm going to be.
Speaker 1: I don't That's why, I mean, we're in harmony. You
Speaker 1: do you think it? We're in harmony. I don't understand it.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any logic to the entire thing.
Speaker 1: And and his agent has been around for a long time,
Speaker 1: So don't tell me he came up with this excuse that, oh,
Speaker 1: they snuck this clause into the contract. He knows what
Speaker 1: the Cowboys contracts are. He knows to read the whole thing, right.
Speaker 1: Don't don't come up the last minute and say, oh,
Speaker 1: we changed our mind, and and and the other thing
Speaker 1: that ties into this. I was reading. See, I was
Speaker 1: told from here von Miller was going back to Denver.
Speaker 1: And then when Denver saw that they could afford million dollars, yeah,
Speaker 1: well it's actually it's actually three years, fifty three million.
Speaker 1: It's a little under eighteen million a year. It's seventeen
Speaker 1: and a half over the first four years of the contract,
Speaker 1: fifty one million guaranteed. But after Denver saw that they
Speaker 1: couldn't afford that, they said, okay, we're signing Randy Gregory.
Speaker 1: And it was cheaper. So yeah, there's no way they
Speaker 1: tried to sneak something in there. It's there. It's on
Speaker 1: everybody's contract. Schaefer knows that, and to come up with
Speaker 1: that was the excuse. I just so the Gregory contract,
Speaker 1: even though it reads five years seventy million, twenty eight
Speaker 1: million guaranteed, what is it in reality it is? Is
Speaker 1: it two years twenty eight million? It basically so it's
Speaker 1: five years seventy million, he's guaranteed his guaranteed twenty eight million, right,
Speaker 1: and so four million base salary for twenty twenty two,
Speaker 1: fourteen million base salary guaranteed for twenty twenty three, So
Speaker 1: that's eighteen and ten million dollars signs. Yeah, so it's
Speaker 1: twenty eight million. So by the third year they can
Speaker 1: get out of it with a it was a ten
Speaker 1: million dollars signing bonus. Yes, and so the way I
Speaker 1: looked at six million, at six million dollars on their cap,
Speaker 1: they get out of it in their third year. From
Speaker 1: a cap of cap standpoint, it's a three year, forty
Speaker 1: two million dollars deal and they can get out of
Speaker 1: it in twenty twenty five for four million dollars and
Speaker 1: ten money. Okay, so yeah, it's twenty eight million guaranteed.
Speaker 1: So do you think he's think getting up back forget
Speaker 1: that note? Do you think that he is that influenced
Speaker 1: by his agents to where he would like, hey man,
Speaker 1: forget what these guys did for you. You know, this
Speaker 1: is the way you need to be in I'm convinced
Speaker 1: somebody got in his head? Is he that is it
Speaker 1: that he needs to get in his head? I don't
Speaker 1: know what kind of can I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't because he seems I mean, I think he's
Speaker 1: pretty bright, pretty sharp. Uh, and I don't know that
Speaker 1: he did. You know, he got indignant because he's you know,
Speaker 1: and here's the weird thing. If you get suspended, you
Speaker 1: don't get paid. That's part of the league, and it's
Speaker 1: part of the league that the team has to write
Speaker 1: to get pro rated signing bonus back from the games
Speaker 1: you missed, ghost, ask Lele Collins. That's why Lele Collins
Speaker 1: fought his six game suspension. It wasn't about well, I
Speaker 1: got to play, No, I got to get my money,
Speaker 1: and that's why he was fighting the suspension. So, now
Speaker 1: what is the nuance between the Lyle Collins versus what
Speaker 1: would happen with Gregory because you're talking about suspensions versus fines. Correct,
Speaker 1: you're talking about your claus in the contrast, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's but it's a suspension, so they have the right
Speaker 1: to get money back from that. They've paid and the
Speaker 1: process would be the same whether you're talking there's no
Speaker 1: nuance between the two. Well, I don't know that the
Speaker 1: fine like, if the league finds you, they don't suspend
Speaker 1: you now for testing positive for a substance, um if
Speaker 1: you get fined. I don't know how it league works,
Speaker 1: but I guess the team, if you're the team, wouldn't
Speaker 1: try to get money back because you're not missing any right, right,
Speaker 1: But if you're missing something, they have that right. So
Speaker 1: I I was I was shocked. And they were two
Speaker 1: by the way, and and then there was this thing
Speaker 1: floating around that well the Cowboys screwed up the negotiation
Speaker 1: because Jerry and Stephen weren't part of it. And you know,
Speaker 1: their capologist, Adam was taking care of it. No, they
Speaker 1: were on the phone with him and had convinced him
Speaker 1: to sign with the Cowboys, but Denver was already talking
Speaker 1: to him right That's why I wrote today that you know,
Speaker 1: the Broncos on their social media tweeted out surprise, and
Speaker 1: it's like, do you think anything surprises me these days?
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. Well do you think that they're delayed in
Speaker 1: working with him as well? Because it seemed like he
Speaker 1: was not necessarily priority? We got Gallup done, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Cooper's gone, But he signed the same deal with Denver
Speaker 1: that he was going to sign with the Cowboys. So
Speaker 1: minus the clause, yeah right, yeah, I guess, yeah, but
Speaker 1: it's the same deal. Yeah, well minus the claws. But
Speaker 1: they said we didn't know that clause was in there.
Speaker 1: I ain't believing it. So how upset should the Cowboys
Speaker 1: be that Randy Gregory's not on the team. I think
Speaker 1: they probably should be very upset, I think so, especially
Speaker 1: after all the time effort, and remember what was it
Speaker 1: two years ago? They advanced him money and extended his
Speaker 1: contracts so he could pay for his rehab when he
Speaker 1: wasn't playing. Then when he got suspended that entire season.
Speaker 1: I mean, they've bent over backwards to keep it, no
Speaker 1: doubt they've. They've made some concessions, no doubt they have.
Speaker 1: So Okay, maybe i'll rephrase it this way. Um, do
Speaker 1: you two think that he should have been a priority
Speaker 1: in free agency? Well, he was they were signing before
Speaker 1: in your opinion, in your opinion, if you were, if
Speaker 1: you were calling the shot and putting this team together,
Speaker 1: would he Well, you think they should have paid him more. No,
Speaker 1: I'm myself, I'm like, look elsewhere. I'm just looking at
Speaker 1: the track record over the last seven years, right, and
Speaker 1: with that kind of money, with that kind of money,
Speaker 1: and it and it's not the off the field stuff
Speaker 1: at all, because that's seems to be taken care of.
Speaker 1: It's I mean, the production has not been there. This
Speaker 1: past season. Even the production was not there. He didn't
Speaker 1: stay on the field for seventeen games. He had six sacks.
Speaker 1: There's plenty of guys out there, and you can find
Speaker 1: you can find edge rushers. Go go find some other
Speaker 1: edge rushers and spend them out there. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: that's the way I looked at it from the get go.
Speaker 1: Is okay, he's unless he comes at a at a
Speaker 1: rate that you're comfortable paying. And I would not have
Speaker 1: been comfortable paying fourteen million dollars a year because I'm
Speaker 1: not I haven't had the production. I mean it's sixteen
Speaker 1: sacks in his career and move on, let's go, let's
Speaker 1: let's find somebody else. See And I think when you
Speaker 1: look at some of the plays that he made and
Speaker 1: I see the talent is there. Yeah, yeah, you saw
Speaker 1: some of the amazing plays that went along with an
Speaker 1: entire group that was making a lot of good plays.
Speaker 1: So he fit in well with that group. And so yeah,
Speaker 1: you can bring somebody in another edge rusher. Edge rushers
Speaker 1: don't have to necessarily be in tune to the defense.
Speaker 1: The edge rushers if they were limited in what they
Speaker 1: have to do their responsibilities, but that's what gives them
Speaker 1: the ability to kind of be creative physically. They don't
Speaker 1: have to think too much because they're at they're just
Speaker 1: playing edge rushers. But yeah, you you know, when you
Speaker 1: look at it, he did well within the concept of
Speaker 1: this defense and all those other guys that were making plays,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't sustained over the course of an entire season.
Speaker 1: And I think part of what you would be paying
Speaker 1: for is the threat, because you know what he's capable
Speaker 1: of if he ends up producing, and other teams have
Speaker 1: to account for his presence and and it's not all sacks.
Speaker 1: It's his ability to put pressure and he had a
Speaker 1: bunch of pressures. Um led the team in pressures if
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, And and and the fact that he
Speaker 1: could play the run now if he just stays on
Speaker 1: side Um. But that's another of those. That's another. But
Speaker 1: there are a lot of edge rushes right out there.
Speaker 1: I mean, no doubt about it. We are in regards
Speaker 1: to just getting to the quarterback. Yes, we can always
Speaker 1: find someone. But can we find someone that could do
Speaker 1: the small things right, you know, the play the run
Speaker 1: well and be the threat that he that they got
Speaker 1: a better edge rusher playing linebacker right now, well they do,
Speaker 1: but then they don't have and so there's other there's
Speaker 1: other ways of skinning this gat. Okay, So if if
Speaker 1: if you can't find edge rushers, you got one at linebacker,
Speaker 1: play him at edge rusher and and sign your linebacker
Speaker 1: or three or three. So, I mean, guy, it comes
Speaker 1: down to what kind of money you're going to stip. Well,
Speaker 1: and here's here's the other thing. Everybody's saying, well, okay,
Speaker 1: now they because his average was going to be fourteen
Speaker 1: million a year, right, But you don't immediately count fourteen
Speaker 1: million a year against the salary cap. So what his
Speaker 1: cap charge was going to be for the first year
Speaker 1: was six million dollars. So that's all they got to
Speaker 1: play with, right for this year, it's six million dollars.
Speaker 1: It's not like, okay, they got fourteen well, let's go
Speaker 1: spend fourteen million on somebody else. Now it doesn't work there.
Speaker 1: So the cap that Cooper created for us, that's pretty
Speaker 1: much used up with a two contracts with Shelton and Gallup.
Speaker 1: Uh primarily, although Schultz's contract they'll get a long term
Speaker 1: deal done with that. He's not going to play under
Speaker 1: the TA for a ten point nine million dollars. But
Speaker 1: my point on the edge rusher thing is if I'm behind,
Speaker 1: if if I'm back there in making decisions, Okay, Randy
Speaker 1: Gregory didn't take our offer, he moves on. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think you've got in your hip pocket that Michael
Speaker 1: Parson's card and you could always go that way, right,
Speaker 1: And they don't know apparently him there every downright game,
Speaker 1: But apparently the draft has there are some good edge
Speaker 1: rushers in this draft. There are other guys out there
Speaker 1: or whatever, and there's there's there's guy, and there's a
Speaker 1: number of ways to. You know, we focus so much
Speaker 1: on our own players that I lose sight of what
Speaker 1: else is around the league. You look around and there
Speaker 1: are some guys out there that can contribute. Maybe they're
Speaker 1: not in every down, but a specialty pass rusher. I mean,
Speaker 1: Houston signed one, and this Oboko, who I think has
Speaker 1: got a lot of potentially. He was with the Rams
Speaker 1: the last four years, and Rams are pretty set at
Speaker 1: in their front seven, and now he gets an opportunity
Speaker 1: back home in Houston. I would have you know at
Speaker 1: he probably I don't know what he signed for, but
Speaker 1: it was a one year deal. It wasn't for that
Speaker 1: much money. Bring him in here and you know and
Speaker 1: um and you know as a third down pass rusher.
Speaker 1: So you're saying you don't need to give a thirty
Speaker 1: three year old edge rusher a six year, one hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty million dollars man. That was crazy thought. And
Speaker 1: guaranteeing ye years that was impressive. His agent must really
Speaker 1: be good. I don't know what he saw are it
Speaker 1: shows you Buffalo had money to spend the cap, I know,
Speaker 1: but they're not spending on their quarterback. Right He's still
Speaker 1: under his first contract, if I'm correct, and tell me
Speaker 1: who their running back is, tell me who the slot
Speaker 1: receiver is. Now, let go who's available? Right, Okay, comes back.
Speaker 1: So when we come back here on mix shots, we
Speaker 1: move into the wide receiver, realm on this team and
Speaker 1: other things that are going on that impact this team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they'll make some moves eventually in free agency, just not
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Speaker 1: we continue with more mix shots. We've a discussed edge rusher.
Speaker 1: We want to go wide receiver. Now let's go wide.
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup just spoke to the media, had a conference
Speaker 1: call eleven thirty so after probably about done if and
Speaker 1: so that was a nice deal for him. And of
Speaker 1: course the news of the past week, Amari Cooper is
Speaker 1: now a Cleveland Brown Cowboys. Exchange sixth round picks and
Speaker 1: pick up a fifth and now they've got two other
Speaker 1: compensatory fifth round picks. So they've got four four fifth
Speaker 1: round picks in this upcoming draft. And you love that
Speaker 1: for the draft. Don't start spending them things to move up. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right, that's right. So Michael Gallup signs a five
Speaker 1: year deal fifty seven point five million, could be as
Speaker 1: much as sixty two point five. He got a ten
Speaker 1: million dollars signing bonus, twenty three million guaranteed, and one
Speaker 1: of the key things in his contract is they've gave
Speaker 1: him a per game roster bonus, so fifty eight thousand
Speaker 1: and eight twenty three for each game he plays up
Speaker 1: to one million a year, so he can add a
Speaker 1: million a year to that five year deal for five
Speaker 1: more million. That's his injury been updated. I mean, are
Speaker 1: they're thinking still like we talked publist first six games.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's six, if it's for All
Speaker 1: I know is if I know, he's gonna try to
Speaker 1: get back as soon as he can so he can
Speaker 1: get that if I count seven months, and that's kind
Speaker 1: of conservative, right return for an ACL and he had
Speaker 1: it in the middle of February, that gets me through September.
Speaker 1: Would you like to hear what Michael Gallup said about it. Yes,
Speaker 1: his goal is to be ready for the season opener
Speaker 1: coming off February ACL surgery. He quote, you don't want
Speaker 1: to miss games, but you can't put a timetable on it.
Speaker 1: But that's obviously the goal. You want to play as
Speaker 1: soon as possible, but you've got to make sure you're
Speaker 1: right before you go out there. And seven and seven
Speaker 1: and then that's the latest. And even if he's what
Speaker 1: he just said, even if returns in seven months, I mean,
Speaker 1: you got to keep rehabbing, right, and by time you
Speaker 1: get in, you're gonna miss the off season. Not to
Speaker 1: mention those routes a little different against air, right the
Speaker 1: real person? Yes, So so now week seven, Week seven,
Speaker 1: you think start him on pup. Well, the good thing
Speaker 1: is the season starts later again, right middle of September
Speaker 1: instead of the first to September I think, am I right?
Speaker 1: It's been like that. It starts the week after Labor Day? Right,
Speaker 1: Well last year was it? I mean it was September ninth,
Speaker 1: because they started on a Thursday, September twelve eight last
Speaker 1: year or two September five or so. But anyway, if
Speaker 1: you go through the whole month of September that you're
Speaker 1: not ready, you're going to miss two or three games
Speaker 1: for sure, right, And now you're in October, do they
Speaker 1: put him on pop if he's not ready to go?
Speaker 1: And if you if you start on pup. You miss
Speaker 1: six games, you still got eleven regular season games to
Speaker 1: play the whole college season, right here you go. So
Speaker 1: so that lets you know what they think about the
Speaker 1: Marty Cooper sending them to Cleveland. That was ugly. That
Speaker 1: was ugly. That's not the place I want to end
Speaker 1: up if I'm leaving the Cowboys, you know, leading the
Speaker 1: team all the time I was here. That's a tough one.
Speaker 1: So yeah, if you're a Marii Cooper, okay, and you
Speaker 1: so his salary that twenty million, that's that's his base space. Yeah,
Speaker 1: twenty million base And so he's still on his existing
Speaker 1: contract and he got that guarantee coming up fifth day
Speaker 1: of the four days away. Okay, you would rather be
Speaker 1: a free agent right then go to Cleveland on the
Speaker 1: existing contract or not? Well, I mean what's the market
Speaker 1: out there? They got rid of Landry for him, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I could see that, and they need him, so there's
Speaker 1: no pressure for you too. And they're not getting to
Speaker 1: Shaun Watson by the way. That yeah, it was decided
Speaker 1: this morning. So the only way they can change your mind,
Speaker 1: they're gonna have it. They sound like they're gonna have
Speaker 1: an adult at quarterback. Now ye all, Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: what I think it was more reported it yesterday that
Speaker 1: it was an anonymous inside the Browns organism. They need
Speaker 1: to find an adult to play quarterback. Yeah, so the
Speaker 1: only way they can, I'm thinking it's gonna be Jimmy Garoppolo. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that is what's going to be. The Only way they
Speaker 1: can convince him to redo the contract would be to
Speaker 1: give him signing bone. Give me money up front, right,
Speaker 1: and I don't have to work eighteen weeks for twenty
Speaker 1: million dollars. I'll take half of it today and then
Speaker 1: I'll restructure my contract for you. But that leads to me,
Speaker 1: after what we just talked about, Michael Gallup maybe not
Speaker 1: ready for start of the season. The Cowboys just created
Speaker 1: another hole that they got to fill. That's what I'm saying. Now,
Speaker 1: he's a number one receiver. I don't care numbers, right,
Speaker 1: I don't care. He had seventy eight catches and Ceedee
Speaker 1: Lamb had eighty eight or whatever it was, uh or
Speaker 1: he had sixty eight. Whatever is sixty eight and seventy eight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you still need who now if it's Ceedee Lamb and
Speaker 1: what for the season? Exactly tell me that what do you,
Speaker 1: what do you what are you willing to pay for
Speaker 1: a veteran wide receiver right now? Depends how old? Like
Speaker 1: Julio Jones. Okay, let's throw his name out. No, let's not.
Speaker 1: He's thirty three, let's not. Yeah, but he's well and
Speaker 1: he's got hamstring issues the last two and we talked
Speaker 1: about him during the season. Remember we saw him on
Speaker 1: TV and it was like, where did Julio Jones go?
Speaker 1: He didn't look like the same guy. Injuries take its toe, man, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, they really do. And it's it's shown up
Speaker 1: the last two years. You can just look at his
Speaker 1: his playing time rise to you. And Tennessee went through
Speaker 1: a lot of trouble to get him. They gave up
Speaker 1: a second and four and the coach never liked him.
Speaker 1: They never got if it's a veteran guy, then it
Speaker 1: would have to be a one year prove it deal.
Speaker 1: To me, Now, Jarvis Landry's out there right, how much
Speaker 1: does he want? To say? Everybody? But the question is
Speaker 1: how much do they want to make? And if it's
Speaker 1: April and you're still sitting out there and everybody's reporting
Speaker 1: the offseason practice, you might take a little less. You're
Speaker 1: sitting there going, huh, I don't have a job and
Speaker 1: I better get going. And Landry was a good receiver
Speaker 1: until this whole Baker Mayfield things started coming up to
Speaker 1: shoulder injury that really affected both of their production, right,
Speaker 1: and it all fell back on Landry And from then
Speaker 1: on they're pressing. A Beckham's still there at that time,
Speaker 1: and they're pressing trying to make things happen, and Landry's
Speaker 1: place suffered because he missed a lot of passes. And
Speaker 1: when that light has shined on you and you're the
Speaker 1: number one guy and you don't come through, it gets
Speaker 1: brighter and brighter. And that's what happened with Landry. His
Speaker 1: career was decent, his career was more than decent, but
Speaker 1: this past year did not hold up to the standards
Speaker 1: that he's used to putting out. So, having said that,
Speaker 1: do you think Cede Lamb is a number one receiver?
Speaker 1: I do? I think one receiver. I do think he
Speaker 1: can handle that. We can put him in different places,
Speaker 1: we can put him in the backfield. At the same time,
Speaker 1: having somebody like Michael Gallop out there, not first seven
Speaker 1: games obviously, but when he's on having having him out
Speaker 1: there trying to do things. Here's what we did last year,
Speaker 1: and Michael loving about for a good point. We had
Speaker 1: a lot of good players, but they're not the great players.
Speaker 1: They're not the two, they're not the guys that we
Speaker 1: need to come through. And as we went down the
Speaker 1: stretch and the line started, you know, having problems, and
Speaker 1: we started having problems passing the ball, that that's who
Speaker 1: needed to step up for us. The superstars, the Cede Lambs,
Speaker 1: the Coopers. Okay, they did not to step up for us.
Speaker 1: And if they did step up, we didn't have enough
Speaker 1: time to give them the ball. And that really affected
Speaker 1: everything with the Cowboys. So to me, what, like Michael
Speaker 1: Luvian said, you gotta go to your stars no matter what.
Speaker 1: You can't go to Cedric Wilson right now. You see
Speaker 1: what happened with that. This is crucial. We can't call
Speaker 1: Cedric Wilson's play, We can't call his number. This is
Speaker 1: the time. This is why we pay Cedee Lamb, This
Speaker 1: is why we give them all the hype. This is
Speaker 1: why we pay Cooper, this is what we were brought
Speaker 1: him back for. Gallup. We need you guys to come
Speaker 1: through for us right now. We didn't allow them to
Speaker 1: do that. We didn't call their number when there was time.
Speaker 1: So you've only got one number to call. Now you
Speaker 1: got one, well maybe tell maybe two with shows depending. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I think Shultz. I think Schultz ended up with
Speaker 1: the production he had because of the double teams to
Speaker 1: cover the Cowboys wide receivers. And it's like, okay, well
Speaker 1: let's go. But what they did. They came up and
Speaker 1: jam them. That's what they did. They squatted on every route,
Speaker 1: so that off the middle of wide open, I mean
Speaker 1: tight ends up. Made the living off of that forever.
Speaker 1: That's how That's how I learned Nova checks Nate. And
Speaker 1: how do you get rid of that? You run the football,
Speaker 1: And how do you run the football that'll get us
Speaker 1: to our next sub ship the offensive line? Right, that's right.
Speaker 1: So now they've got a hole there and okay, so
Speaker 1: what's the status on this Lyle Collins trade? Well, you
Speaker 1: can trade him, but it's thirteen million dollars in dead money,
Speaker 1: either a million and a half all this year or
Speaker 1: part this year in part next year if you make them.
Speaker 1: But if you trade them, designate him June one, right,
Speaker 1: if you release him, you so what do you okay, So,
Speaker 1: but you don't get that money until June one on
Speaker 1: his base salary, which could can sign a draft class.
Speaker 1: Half of it gets guaranteed here in by the twentieth Okay,
Speaker 1: oh okay, so I got my little March twentieth here.
Speaker 1: What happens? So what do you need? Okay? My question
Speaker 1: for you is, if you've made the decision that you're
Speaker 1: moving on from Collins, what do you need to get
Speaker 1: in return in a trade to How high a draft
Speaker 1: pick do you need in order for you to take
Speaker 1: that rather than the benefit that you can have by
Speaker 1: designating him a post un first cut. I need more
Speaker 1: than the fifth. But who's going to give you that?
Speaker 1: Knowing that you're probably gonna cut them? Right? Well, I
Speaker 1: mean that you can say the same thing about Cooper,
Speaker 1: who was going to give you a fifth? And that's
Speaker 1: what they got, right, which made me laugh yesterday. Uh Washington,
Speaker 1: and I finally got the type commanders. Yeah, but my
Speaker 1: mistake I type commodorees, which I think is a better name.
Speaker 1: Man have got all the just so bland, Yeah, the
Speaker 1: commodorees man that that bakes them a spot man anyway
Speaker 1: to it. So evidently evidently they should have. But anyway, uh,
Speaker 1: they were, they were too late. Yeah. I think so
Speaker 1: they've they've that's a great idea. So anyway they were,
Speaker 1: they were debating what to do with matt Ionidas is
Speaker 1: not how I say, that's good, Yeah, you got it.
Speaker 1: And uh evidently they said they weren't gonna trade them, right,
Speaker 1: and then they are they weren't going to cut them,
Speaker 1: and then they cut him. Yeah. Well it's like, of
Speaker 1: course they're not gonna say we're letting them go and
Speaker 1: then try to trade him. Who's gonna trade for him? Right?
Speaker 1: So the agent, Uh, I think it's Alan Alan Herman.
Speaker 1: He accused Washington of lying, and I said, imagine that
Speaker 1: and agent accusing somebody of lying. So anyway, so back
Speaker 1: to the offensive line. If I mean, if they're going
Speaker 1: to make that move, then they think Terrence Steele can
Speaker 1: step up and be the starting right tackle, right, but
Speaker 1: you still have an opening at guard because somebody thought
Speaker 1: Connor Williams was worth seven million dollars a year over
Speaker 1: two years to fourteen million over two years a year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so now you got a hole there. And I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: there's not every draft Zack Martin out there that you
Speaker 1: can qualify using a first round pick on for a guard,
Speaker 1: such a position sometimes of strength and just brings him down.
Speaker 1: But you could you could trade down like you did
Speaker 1: when you got a center Travis Frederick. But he touches
Speaker 1: the ball a free play, right, it's a guard. I'm
Speaker 1: not using a first round pick in a guard unless
Speaker 1: that guard is your eventual tackle, right, exactly, So I'm
Speaker 1: draft I'm drafting a tackle to play guard because we're
Speaker 1: sitting here, you know, Okay, say you cut Leo Collins, right,
Speaker 1: so oh, Terren Steele can step up and be the starter.
Speaker 1: Now what happens at the third tackle? Who is it?
Speaker 1: The fourth round pick from last year out of Marshall? Okay,
Speaker 1: hopefully because we're just as name Josh. But we're assuming
Speaker 1: that Tyrn Smith's just going to go out there and
Speaker 1: play seventeen games, right, And even when he got back
Speaker 1: he struggled a little too. It wasn't the same Tyrant Smith.
Speaker 1: So so you're thinking draft a left tackle can play guard?
Speaker 1: How about the second round? Can I get one that
Speaker 1: can play guard? Yeah? Sort of the way they did
Speaker 1: what flows Al Adams? Remember he was a tackle. He
Speaker 1: started at guard and then moved outside when they needed
Speaker 1: to put him at tackle. They did it with They
Speaker 1: did it the next year with um Solomon Page did
Speaker 1: the same thing. Probably he played the guard and then
Speaker 1: he went out and played tackle. That's what I would do.
Speaker 1: I'm not drafting a pure guard in the first round anyway. Well,
Speaker 1: have they developed now, you know, into players that can
Speaker 1: be multi tasking players? I mean that it's like nowadays
Speaker 1: you get you've got these hybrid safeties that can play
Speaker 1: safety in lineback. I mean, are we getting to the
Speaker 1: point to where a lineman are getting groomed to where
Speaker 1: you can play tackle and guard at the same time,
Speaker 1: because everyone acts like the nuances in the difference of
Speaker 1: that is so vast that you can't do it, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, it'd be tough to be like a safety
Speaker 1: in the corner. So do we need to move to
Speaker 1: the other spot they need to feel Since you brought
Speaker 1: up that, I guess brought up right away, the linebacker
Speaker 1: and safety. Yeah. One of the thing though on offensive line? Yes,
Speaker 1: are you out now? When was Connor McGovern drafted in
Speaker 1: the in their third round? What year is he now?
Speaker 1: This is four? This is this four? Gotta look at me?
Speaker 1: Think it is Okay, so what are you saying. Are
Speaker 1: you out now on Connor McGovern? Is he not a
Speaker 1: candidate to be a starting left guard on this team? Well,
Speaker 1: he got a channel, he got a chance, he didn't playoff.
Speaker 1: Wasn't about an offensive line coach? Who is he Joe
Speaker 1: philbin Joe? Is he still here? Yes? Is he the man?
Speaker 1: Is he the man? Can he coach? And McGovern was
Speaker 1: in nineteen so he'll be a free agent after that
Speaker 1: coming out. Can can he take you know, these young guys?
Speaker 1: And he did a pretty good job with tern still there.
Speaker 1: You go from where he was as a rookie to
Speaker 1: how he played last year. So when you're talking about
Speaker 1: the guys with with with this potential McGovern and guys
Speaker 1: like that, can he take them to the next level
Speaker 1: as a coach, because I mean you've got of course,
Speaker 1: you've got talent, but when you have a system here
Speaker 1: that's based on running the ball, protecting the quarterback, can
Speaker 1: he bring these guys back to where we need him
Speaker 1: to be. We don't need superstars necessarily to be good lineman.
Speaker 1: We've had average lineman blocking our defensive lineman all over
Speaker 1: the place last year when we couldn't stop the run.
Speaker 1: Do we need all pros to make this work on
Speaker 1: our offensive line? So you're saying you wouldn't have spend
Speaker 1: three years, forty nine and a half million, and Brandish
Speaker 1: Schriff who is that Washington offensive guard and went to Jacksonville. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: And by the way, by the way, the Commodore is
Speaker 1: just uh, we're gonna call him the common We're we're
Speaker 1: doing them a favorite. The commodorees are they basically have
Speaker 1: made a trade of guards because Andrew Norwell, who was
Speaker 1: with Jacksonville is now with the Commodore. And and Farriff
Speaker 1: went to Jacksonville, right, trade thirty three million in two years,
Speaker 1: thirty million guaranteed for a guard. And so what was
Speaker 1: his pedigree? He was a pro bowl you know, I
Speaker 1: mean he was good. Okay. One thing that doesn't work
Speaker 1: on the Commodore's nickname, Carson. Listen to the word Carson
Speaker 1: Wentz does not look like the quarterback of the Commodore.
Speaker 1: He's the Commanders, right, Yeah, he's a quite big of
Speaker 1: the Commanders. No, no, ye, bring half comes back in. Yeah. Bridgewater.
Speaker 1: Two gloves and the Commodoors. That is a great name.
Speaker 1: Two gloves and the Commodoors. Yeah, well, Jamis would have
Speaker 1: been good. Is anybody surprised that Cedric Wilson got what
Speaker 1: he did from Miami? No, I'm not. I'm not surprised,
Speaker 1: and okay, would uh all right? I had someone say, well,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys should have given him that money, But do
Speaker 1: you think no, three years, twenty two million, that's a
Speaker 1: that's to me, that would be a lot for your
Speaker 1: third receiver. That's what I'm talking about. And he played
Speaker 1: like a third receiver down the How much are they getting? Okay,
Speaker 1: they got to bring in a veteran, right, I think so,
Speaker 1: so how much then are you willing to pay this veteran?
Speaker 1: Not that much? So you're looking at any acts five million,
Speaker 1: and he got guaranteed twelve point seven five so over
Speaker 1: three years, that's like four million a year. So they
Speaker 1: didn't really pay that much, but it's still four million
Speaker 1: a year when you're in the shape you are. I
Speaker 1: heard somebody start arguing, well, who's gonna throw the football?
Speaker 1: And it's like, I'm worried about who's gonna catch the football.
Speaker 1: I'm worried about the three end around passes. Okay, so
Speaker 1: we moved next to what position? Let's go linebacker. Who's
Speaker 1: gonna play the linebacker for this team? Aside from Mica
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Speaker 1: do more. Okay, I gotta get this. You got this.
Speaker 1: I saw and I was trying to picture who that is.
Speaker 1: I was at a football camp. Yeah, I know Houston,
Speaker 1: someone who was helping you coach. Yeah, no, I was
Speaker 1: helping you. This guy. You recognize this guy? Wait? What
Speaker 1: era is that? You recognize this guy? I do and
Speaker 1: I can't. Who is he? Freaking Missoo? Dude? This is
Speaker 1: Missou right? You went to Missou right? Yeah, he went
Speaker 1: to Missou Ron Fellows, No, Fellows, think quarterback. It's not
Speaker 1: Phil Bradley. No, it's not Phil. Who's the other one?
Speaker 1: The other the other one? Yeah, the other one. Actually,
Speaker 1: we've moved on from Phil. We've had several. Yes, you
Speaker 1: have African American quick, he got very politically several African America.
Speaker 1: I don't recognize that's Brad Brad Smith. It is, thank you.
Speaker 1: I didn't go to MISSOI when did his face get
Speaker 1: that thing? Hey? Man? You know he was a skinny
Speaker 1: guy him. Dude, that's Brad Smith. He was coaching. He
Speaker 1: was coaching the quarterbacks down there at the at the camp.
Speaker 1: At the camp we were doing the camp for high school.
Speaker 1: But what's he doing? Like in I didn't ask him.
Speaker 1: I said, man, take this picture so I can send
Speaker 1: this to you. Brad Smith. No, I did not here. Man.
Speaker 1: He influenced me a lot just from you know, watching
Speaker 1: him play and as on as well as he did
Speaker 1: in his teen years ago. He did a hell of
Speaker 1: a job. I really was inspired by him. Who's the
Speaker 1: greatest quarterback in Missouri history? Is it Bradley? No? He
Speaker 1: knows where I'm going on. We're gonna have to go away.
Speaker 1: No you're not. Oh it's Jase Daniel. Yeah. I got okay. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And by the way, he's coming back for his fourteenth
Speaker 1: year in the NFL and he's played five games five
Speaker 1: five games, ten five five games. He's a Chargers recently.
Speaker 1: This little hadn't be a coach, man. I remember. Remember
Speaker 1: it reminds me. We did a when the old Cowboys channel.
Speaker 1: We did a high school football game South Lake Carol
Speaker 1: played Denton Ryan, Yes, and playoff game, playoff game at
Speaker 1: Texas Stadium, and Mickey Chase Daniel had committed to Missouri,
Speaker 1: so Mickey had to go check he bout. So he
Speaker 1: goes down on the field because he just wanted to
Speaker 1: see how tall this guy was, because he wasn't sure
Speaker 1: he was tall enough to be able to play. And
Speaker 1: my conclusion was, I'm a little worried about a short Well,
Speaker 1: he kind of didn't. He wanted to see if he's
Speaker 1: taller than Mickey did really at Missouri and play well,
Speaker 1: put him back on the mat. The's no doubt. As
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, he did h a charity golf
Speaker 1: tournament and it was for his charity and the University
Speaker 1: of Missouri. And I hosted the awards ceremony. So he was,
Speaker 1: are you still taller than him? And I said, I
Speaker 1: told the story. I did tell thee's got he's looking big.
Speaker 1: Story made people laugh. And he's standing next to me,
Speaker 1: got on his tipping Yes was much taller. Yes, he's
Speaker 1: a little a little rounder than you. But mentioning Phil Bradley.
Speaker 1: So I was back in Columbia covering Missouri football. It
Speaker 1: was nineteen seventy seven and Pete Woods was the starting
Speaker 1: quarterback and in the season open he got hurt and
Speaker 1: they went to a freshman called Phil Bradley. Became the
Speaker 1: first black starting quarterback at the University of Missouri nineteen seven. Yeah,
Speaker 1: played for the Seattle Mariners too, and he became a
Speaker 1: better baseball player. Yeah he did. That was that's a
Speaker 1: good story, Yeah, Phil bad it was good. As a
Speaker 1: matter of fact, he came here, he left Seattle and
Speaker 1: went to was it Boston? He was leading the league
Speaker 1: and hitting and and and Phil didn't like doing interviews, right,
Speaker 1: and uh, I showed up in the dugout and he
Speaker 1: saw me and we started talking and he goes, yeah,
Speaker 1: for you, I'll do an interview. Everybody's looking like Phil
Speaker 1: Bradley's talking to you. Yeah, it's like, yeah, we go
Speaker 1: way back. He wound up with Baltimore, Baltimore, I said, Boston. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that was that was big time for me because
Speaker 1: I had that was seventy seven. I was playing with Doug.
Speaker 1: Doug was going for the Heisman's right, and so then
Speaker 1: here comes Phil, you know, he comes in and it
Speaker 1: just really starts bawling, and it just really made you
Speaker 1: take a look at him, you know, and just look
Speaker 1: at what he was going through, because Doug was going
Speaker 1: through a lot of stuff at that time, being the
Speaker 1: first time, and Phil did too. Yes, and yes, that's
Speaker 1: that's what we know at Grambling. We knew that without
Speaker 1: any reports coming out. We knew that he was going
Speaker 1: through a lot of stuff because here was Doug. They
Speaker 1: you going through all of these things and jump off
Speaker 1: all these hurdles, and so we knew a bill and
Speaker 1: he was taking heat and it's like, hey, the kids,
Speaker 1: a freshman, he's right out of high school and he's
Speaker 1: starting now. Then he turned everybody's heads in the next
Speaker 1: three years. He was awfully linebacker. Who where Michael? Where
Speaker 1: Michael Parson? That's the way? Where do you want? The
Speaker 1: people are just shouting Bobby Wagner at you right now? Well,
Speaker 1: how much does Bobby Wagner want to play for a
Speaker 1: lot of money? He does at the he kind of
Speaker 1: at the end of He's in his thirties too, right, right, Yes,
Speaker 1: I mean you know, the Cowboys could have had Bobby
Speaker 1: Wagner back in yes twenty and twelve draft in the draft.
Speaker 1: Okay they do, we do we need to review that. Yes,
Speaker 1: Cowboys traded up. They traded the fourteenth pick and the
Speaker 1: forty fifth pick to move up to number six and
Speaker 1: took Mo Clayborne, and they could have had they could
Speaker 1: have had Michael I think of Michael Brockers and um,
Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner. Let me say this, Molay was a heck
Speaker 1: of a player in college. I don't know what happened.
Speaker 1: He couldn't stay healthy. It was more than that, but
Speaker 1: he couldn't stay healthy, and then he lost confidence. But
Speaker 1: he was I saw him play in person at LSU,
Speaker 1: and it's like, I want that guy, bad guy. He
Speaker 1: was that guy. He was returning kicks. They would start
Speaker 1: a game, the game I was at, and they would
Speaker 1: receive and the whole place would stand up in anticipation
Speaker 1: of the ball going to Morris Claybourne. So, yeah, we
Speaker 1: just got We just got a buzzer luck on. That
Speaker 1: was just buzzling. But but but how much does Wagner want?
Speaker 1: I would like him to be my middle linebacker. Could
Speaker 1: he sign a you know, I wonder what they paid. Um, oh,
Speaker 1: the linebacker they got from Miami for like two years
Speaker 1: when Bill was here. Um, he was up for the
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame just recently, Jack Thomas, Zack Thomas. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they signed him to like a two year day. It
Speaker 1: wasn't much, I mean at the end of that kind
Speaker 1: of so, but yeah, that would be fine. But and
Speaker 1: again I keep here and say, well, you got fourteen
Speaker 1: million dollars that you didn't give Randy Gregory, you give
Speaker 1: it to Bobby Wagner. I'll repeat it. He was only
Speaker 1: gonna cost six million the first year against the salary cap.
Speaker 1: So that's what you say, six So can we based
Speaker 1: on that? Can we still get Bobby Wagner? I don't
Speaker 1: know what he wants to make And I mean, and
Speaker 1: what other teams are offering right the other team, because
Speaker 1: it's not like the Cowboys are the only one that
Speaker 1: need a line So do we have a report on
Speaker 1: others that are looking at him? I have not heard that.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen that yet. Um so maybe we're in
Speaker 1: that m Online for sure, I saw a couple of
Speaker 1: the Ravens reaching out to him wanting him to go there.
Speaker 1: Uh huh So and then that drives the price up,
Speaker 1: right because we're in a free market here. Yeah. So,
Speaker 1: but if you have Bobby Wagner, then that freeze up
Speaker 1: Michael to do more things. Yeah no, because we're still
Speaker 1: another you still need another linebacker. I mean, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's Micah Parsons right now. And like I said, and
Speaker 1: who well, I'm just saying a linebacker of that ilk
Speaker 1: of that ability. Okay, and then you've got I mean
Speaker 1: yet Jabril Cox who's coming off and injury. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: and he play it wasn't bad. He played five percent
Speaker 1: of the defensive snaps last year. You're hoping, see, the
Speaker 1: whole key to this whole thing is gonna be guys
Speaker 1: like Jabril Cox stepping up and filling these holes. Can
Speaker 1: he step up? You mentioned Josh Ball kind of laugh
Speaker 1: but seriously, they thought he was going to compete for
Speaker 1: the third tackle. Can Chauncey Gholston step up and be
Speaker 1: a defensive end they need? Can Semi Fijoko? Is he
Speaker 1: a player? I don't know, fifth round pick, They didn't
Speaker 1: use him very much. Can he have now right, they're
Speaker 1: going to have to some of these guys can make
Speaker 1: half the jumps that Diggs did from one to two.
Speaker 1: The yeah right, you're hoping, right man, because because now
Speaker 1: Oco DIGGI Zoo has gotta I mean, he's got to
Speaker 1: be a player that he showed signs, showed signs of it.
Speaker 1: But they don't have you know, the other who's the
Speaker 1: other defensive tackle? Gallimore Gallimore? And they need Bohannah to
Speaker 1: step up to be a player. No, Galimore's here. No,
Speaker 1: the ones that that signed the one year deals with
Speaker 1: Brent Urban and Carlos Watkins and so they're free as
Speaker 1: matters that. I just saw MALIEK. Collins signed up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: nice deal. It's Houston, yeah, Houston, right, And he was
Speaker 1: a guy they didn't want to lose. It was the
Speaker 1: same thing with Anthony Hitchens. Would he liked to come back?
Speaker 1: There's another there, that linebacker. He's kind of at the
Speaker 1: end now. He would be one that would be more
Speaker 1: in the salary range you're talking about. And I think
Speaker 1: he still has a home here. Yeah, um, so that
Speaker 1: would be. I could see that he was in the
Speaker 1: he was in one of the bunker suites at the
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving game. Well like like no, like they had they
Speaker 1: had the week off, so he decided to come. I thought,
Speaker 1: you meant when we went to Kansas City. I thought
Speaker 1: I saw him on the field. No, No, when Kansas
Speaker 1: Kansas City had that week off, right, and the bye
Speaker 1: week that week. Okay. So it's funny because if you
Speaker 1: look down, there's a suite in the end zone where
Speaker 1: I think a couple of the players had a suite
Speaker 1: down there, and he was sitting front row. Watching the game,
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, that's very interesting, and I think
Speaker 1: that's just you know, and I haven't seen his name
Speaker 1: come up. You know, so what about a one or
Speaker 1: two year deal? And you know, he was still starting
Speaker 1: for Kansas City, he was a cap causually all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, he'll turn thirty in June. They gave him,
Speaker 1: they gave him that big contract when the Cowboys thought, okay,
Speaker 1: let him go into free agency. We'll find out what
Speaker 1: he's worth in Kansas City pay. What do you think's
Speaker 1: gonna happen with Leyton Vanderish? I don't know. Are you
Speaker 1: surprised he hasn't signed with anybody yet, mack am I surprised, Yes, um, somewhat,
Speaker 1: but not really. And you might be able to get
Speaker 1: him back on a one year That tells you that
Speaker 1: he's not getting the offers that because he would be
Speaker 1: jumping at something right, I would think, so, I think
Speaker 1: he wants to come back. I don't know, though, what
Speaker 1: the price would be and how much they pay. I
Speaker 1: think that the price is coming down because look, if
Speaker 1: if you're just a pure middle linebacker, they're not going
Speaker 1: to pay you as a sixty snap a game starter
Speaker 1: because you're coming out on right, which gets us to
Speaker 1: jay Ron Curse. You know, can they resign him? It
Speaker 1: sounds like he's not getting a lot of action, and
Speaker 1: it sounds like he's kind of mad about it. He
Speaker 1: should be. This guy should have been the Pro Bowl
Speaker 1: because he played awfully well, yes, he did in his role.
Speaker 1: Now maybe other teams say, well, we're not playing that
Speaker 1: type of this kid can but you can find a
Speaker 1: spot for him. Right, he's a strong safety. Okay, if
Speaker 1: you want to look at him as just a strong safety,
Speaker 1: then he's one of the best at strong safeties in
Speaker 1: the NFL period. And so the Cowboys did resign Hooker,
Speaker 1: but it was a very cap friendly deal by the
Speaker 1: way it was. It was two years, seven million, but
Speaker 1: he only got one point seven million of assigning bonus
Speaker 1: and his cap. He's looking at these numbers. He only
Speaker 1: got up jumped. He's got a one point three million
Speaker 1: dollars based salaries. It was cap hit the first year
Speaker 1: two and a half million. So if you get a
Speaker 1: starting if you get a starting safety for that and
Speaker 1: you still have Donovan Wilson. But the role Curse played
Speaker 1: was part safety but part linebacker. Right difference that's the
Speaker 1: and Wilson can't do that, and they would like to
Speaker 1: have him back, but again it comes down to what's
Speaker 1: somebody else going off and really on, like on Layton
Speaker 1: and all these lines. The market hasn't been set for
Speaker 1: those inside linebackers yet and when Wagner is gonna set anna, Yeah,
Speaker 1: people are waiting to see because there are some linebackers
Speaker 1: out there, Rashaun Evans from Tennessee, Dante High Towers out there. Um,
Speaker 1: somebody just got signed. Miles Jack. Yeah, Miles Jack got
Speaker 1: two years? Did he get to year sixteen million from Pittsburgh?
Speaker 1: From Pittsburgh? Yeah? Right, and he was a cap casualty
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville and so they let him go and then
Speaker 1: he signed quickly with Yeah, yeah, he had probably you
Speaker 1: go back to that was the two thousand and sixteen
Speaker 1: draft and the Cowboys had a decision to make Jalen
Speaker 1: Smith or Miles Jack both coming off injuries. You remember,
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett talked to us right after that draft, and
Speaker 1: the medicals that they had on Jalen was that they
Speaker 1: felt like that he the knee injury he had, he'd
Speaker 1: be able to come back from and have a longer career.
Speaker 1: Than the Miles Jack knee injury from back then. So
Speaker 1: the other two linebackers that have signed UM were Jordan
Speaker 1: Hicks he got two year ten million with Minnesota with Minnesota,
Speaker 1: and the other one was Orin Berks, who was a
Speaker 1: green year signed with San Francisco. These guys two years,
Speaker 1: five minutes. Jordan Hicks had a nice year with Arizona. Yes,
Speaker 1: so you're talking some very affordable numbers. Yeah, if that's
Speaker 1: the one thing inside linebackers typically don't get that much,
Speaker 1: you know, and Wagner brings you something different, you know,
Speaker 1: well peg and leadership, leadership and all that stuff which
Speaker 1: they can use. I mean, that's the other thing they lose.
Speaker 1: By the way, I didn't bring it up with Cooper,
Speaker 1: like is Cede Lamb like the leader of the wide
Speaker 1: receiver group. I don't know how much he says. I
Speaker 1: know Michael Gallup didn't say much. How much was Cooper? Oh?
Speaker 1: I think he commanded some attention in committed respect in
Speaker 1: his way. Yeah, I think he was a pretty good leader.
Speaker 1: And you know, maybe in his third year, CD steps
Speaker 1: up and you know kind of well, and the other
Speaker 1: part of that is if Cooper, who is the he
Speaker 1: wasn't a krusty veteran, but he had been in the
Speaker 1: league along a lot longer than those other wide receivers.
Speaker 1: They are all going to because they respect him. He's
Speaker 1: now now we see what kind of leaders the other
Speaker 1: guys can be because because the big dogs out of
Speaker 1: the room. Now, we never got to the kicking situation.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's right, at least the punter as Johnny
Speaker 1: Hecker signed here yet, I don't think so. But I mean,
Speaker 1: how much does he want compared to what somebody's going
Speaker 1: to offer. Brian Anger, I'm a miss Anger. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: miss him, I promise you. That is out. That was
Speaker 1: out twelfth defensive But they got the deep snapper resigned.
Speaker 1: That's Jake McQuaid. Just don't know who he's snapping to. Yeah,
Speaker 1: now that was out twelfth defensive player. Anger. He set
Speaker 1: us up really well. I feel position. It was pretty
Speaker 1: darn consistent. He was. He was, And that's a thing
Speaker 1: that you know, the kicking situation. If you look back,
Speaker 1: it had always been very consistent, right, LP Latticer, Dan Bailey,
Speaker 1: Chris Joke, that stuff for granted, Right, Okay, we as
Speaker 1: we close it out, who's the who's one guy that
Speaker 1: you'd like to see the Cowboys sign in the next
Speaker 1: week before we can vean again, do you have one
Speaker 1: player that you would like to see them sign. It
Speaker 1: can be, it can be. It doesn't have to be
Speaker 1: the the highest dollar figure or I mean, it can
Speaker 1: be a kicker, it can or whatever. It could be
Speaker 1: a putter, he can be Brian Inger, he could be
Speaker 1: a guard Jon they have to say they have to
Speaker 1: sign him. Well, the one that they absolutely have to
Speaker 1: sign just to cover themselves as Dorian's armstrong at defense.
Speaker 1: And that's close, right, yeah, I think so, Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: real close. Now. If I got a wish list, I'd
Speaker 1: love to see Bobby at Wagner. That's my guy. If
Speaker 1: if they could, if they can afford everybody, see everybody's like, oh,
Speaker 1: they gotta get this guy. They gotta get You gotta
Speaker 1: be able to afford them, and not only afford them
Speaker 1: for twenty twenty two, but twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four,
Speaker 1: because they've ran out of adding voidable years to Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott's contract right and Zach right, and next year that
Speaker 1: contract's going up to double digits into his cap charge
Speaker 1: is going to be about thirty million dollars. But then
Speaker 1: the new the new TV contract, and hopefully that absorbed
Speaker 1: allows you to absorb some. So yeah, so you've got
Speaker 1: a plan. It's not just this year, but for this year.
Speaker 1: Like the Randy Gregory thing, you know, everybody's like, well
Speaker 1: you could have franchised him, Well, that was going to
Speaker 1: be nineteen million dollars, and as you saw the way
Speaker 1: the contract was structured, he was only going to count
Speaker 1: six this year, nineteen. So those are the things you
Speaker 1: have to consider when saying I want this, I want that,
Speaker 1: sort of like raising your children, right, I want this,
Speaker 1: I want that, but they don't know how much it costs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want them out of eighteen and then they end
Speaker 1: up moving back. All right. That does it for this
Speaker 1: edition of mix Shots. No telling what will happen in
Speaker 1: five minutes or for sure, So we will see again
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