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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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Speaker 1: This is the Players Lounge broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church,

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Speaker 1: Hecma Harrison, and Uie Scruggs.

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Speaker 3: Here we are last Players Lounge of the week. We're

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Speaker 3: gonna take the rest of the week off because it's

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Speaker 3: a bye week. Cowboys do not have a game. They

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Speaker 3: will take this week often then come back and they

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Speaker 3: will play the Sunday night game out in Santa Claara,

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Speaker 3: California and Levi Stadium against the defending NFC champion San

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Speaker 3: Francisco forty nine Ers.

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Speaker 4: Players Lounge are joined by It is.

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Speaker 3: Off I forgot you go ahead.

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Speaker 4: It is Everson Walls, it is Jesse Holly.

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Speaker 3: I have new Scruggs meteorologist Nate Newtons outside, got on

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Speaker 3: your Jason Garrett fight sweatshirt.

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Speaker 4: I thought i'd do something different, Hey, like you said,

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Speaker 4: no days off for this team.

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Speaker 3: Jesse Holly's got on a sweatshirt. I got some long sleeps. Ever,

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Speaker 3: since he's too cool for schools, I mean Everson played

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Speaker 3: ball in Cleveland and New York and yeah, you know,

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Speaker 3: you know they they had no cool weather. Yeah, grandma

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Speaker 3: went back. When he was playing, it.

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Speaker 4: Was all hot, all like a family.

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Speaker 5: He was on you all the time first and we

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Speaker 5: had black helmets too, man.

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Speaker 4: So that was yeah, first Cleveland game I ever covered.

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Speaker 3: It was a December playoff game and ever since you

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Speaker 3: know this very well bringing this to you.

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Speaker 6: On this.

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Speaker 3: First game, I don't understand the dog bown and they're

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Speaker 3: playing the Patriots, and the Patriots are driving down the field.

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Speaker 3: So back then, MEDI could just stand on the sideline,

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Speaker 3: so I go to the I like to watch from

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Speaker 3: the in zone. Man, I'm getting hit with batteries and

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Speaker 3: bones that they're throwing out here. You run around, you know,

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Speaker 3: she run around the throwing stup.

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Speaker 5: What is this was a whiskey bottles forget that's wight, dude.

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Speaker 5: I was there whiskey bottles, man, for it was pre

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Speaker 5: pre game, but it was still. This is a different

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Speaker 5: weak than when you came into young man, and I

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Speaker 5: mailed the good weed coming from back there to man,

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Speaker 5: good weed, the good weed.

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Speaker 4: Yeah at the bad.

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Speaker 7: Reggie, that old school babby all in the dog. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 7: we got that's a home conversation.

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Speaker 2: Yes it is.

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Speaker 4: They knew together yet.

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Speaker 3: Alright, Now, the toughest place you've ever played the National

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Speaker 3: Football League?

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Speaker 2: They Newtons Where Philadelphia.

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Speaker 7: Hmm, that's Philadelphia, the old raggedy carpet field, Philadelphia Vet,

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Speaker 7: the old vat.

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Speaker 5: And you were there for the Ice Bowl, Yeah, of

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Speaker 5: course you were. Yeah, we got hit, man, Philly. I

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Speaker 5: got hit with snowballs. Man, you're talking about those batteries

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Speaker 5: in the snowball.

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Speaker 2: They talking about cover the coach.

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Speaker 5: Then they talking about geting behind the line because it

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Speaker 5: seems as if no better were they threw it from.

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Speaker 5: They couldn't reach the field. That's right, it's every throw

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Speaker 5: they couldn't reach the field. So if you're on this

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Speaker 5: side on the sideline and the field is here, you

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Speaker 5: one step onto the field, and the referee kept saying

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Speaker 5: get back, get back, like no, kiss my, We're not

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Speaker 5: getting back nah nah. Because that's where the batteries and

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Speaker 5: the and the two picks and all that and the

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Speaker 5: frozen They were snowballs, but they were frozen.

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Speaker 4: So that's a whole different story. Clean, sweet Philly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Philly, I used to do to tell because I'm

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Speaker 3: from Jersey, so I used to have to tell like,

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Speaker 3: there was no women allowed to go to the Philadelphia games.

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Speaker 3: So you know, only the fellas can drive up and

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Speaker 3: come to the Philadelphia game because it was just too much,

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Speaker 3: too much of having my mom or aunt or something

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Speaker 4: And you know.

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Speaker 8: If you weren't good with your hands, you wouldn't right.

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Speaker 3: This was an added pressure you just didn't want to

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Speaker 3: put on the people, your peoples that So, yeah, this

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Speaker 3: is clean, sweet Philadelphia.

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Speaker 5: From what I heard. The only woman that they were

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Speaker 5: let in there was Randy White's mom. Yeah she was ready,

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Speaker 4: She was protected by her her babies.

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Speaker 3: So did you also tell the folks you got tickets

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Speaker 3: to in Philadelphia not to wear any cowboy gear or

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Speaker 7: Their My my cousin wore his cowboy gear. But my

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Speaker 7: cousin Nod had a web getting the with people. Even

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Speaker 7: though he was ready to fight, he had a way

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Speaker 4: Like you to a good point, man, All my people

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Speaker 4: wore my stuff. Just like I said.

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Speaker 3: The dudes that came to the game, they knew what

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Speaker 3: it was, and they was if it went down and

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Speaker 3: went down, and I was I was cool for the

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Speaker 3: gods y'all got it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, But for the ladies, I just I didn't want that.

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Speaker 5: I'd say honorable mentioned uh, the Saints, New Orleans just

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Speaker 5: because of the sound.

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Speaker 4: But the sound, you don't hear anything, but it's fun.

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Speaker 4: But the walls is fun. Though. It's fun.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but you're not danger But I mean in regards

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Speaker 5: to to a tough environment.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've never.

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Speaker 5: Heard voices start to sound like an engine. It's crazy,

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Speaker 5: you know, that's just people and they scream and screaming

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Speaker 5: after a while it gets them, I guess, bouncing off

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Speaker 5: everything in there. And they don't sound like humans. It

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Speaker 5: sounds like an engine or something type of mechanics, and

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Speaker 5: it's turned up louder and louder and louder, and it's

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Speaker 5: like normally when you drink, you begin to lose your voice,

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Speaker 5: but these people don't, right, it's.

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Speaker 4: Just the professional Yeah, no doubt no New Orleans.

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Speaker 3: Like from where you and I are standing, I could

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Speaker 3: not hear the words that come out of your mouth

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Speaker 3: when they got when they got to going like it was,

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Speaker 3: it was tough.

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Speaker 4: That would be my honor.

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Speaker 7: We just held held hands because even if our center

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Speaker 7: They were real that, you know, Seattle and Seattle had

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Speaker 7: must be pumping music because Seattle was never that scary,

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Speaker 2: That was the difference. That was a different sound.

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Speaker 4: All right, cowboys, you're sitting here three and three.

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Speaker 3: If you are the coaches, what is it that you

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Speaker 3: can legitimately fix as you go take on the forty

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Speaker 4: Jesse jitimately.

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Speaker 3: Assignment alignment football. You've heard the guys talk about it,

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Speaker 3: Kind of in a very snarky way. It wasn't snarky,

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Speaker 4: He could.

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Speaker 3: He overused the word details, right, details detailed, detailed, detailed details.

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Speaker 4: And that is the one thing.

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Speaker 3: If we're not going to be extremely or supremely talented,

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Speaker 3: if we're just not gonna just overwhelm you with force

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Speaker 3: gotta be Princeton offense, right like you gotta you know,

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Speaker 3: Preston Office beat you because they're gonna cut past back

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Speaker 3: door this, you know every single time college basketball, right

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Speaker 3: like you gotta be you have to be that.

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Speaker 4: So that's the one thing.

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Speaker 3: Jimmies and Joe's, then damn it. We have to be

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Speaker 3: almost perfect in the details of our alignment and assignment football.

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Speaker 3: So if you're playing Army or Navy, they're running the

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Speaker 2: With it line.

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Speaker 7: You got the full back, that it linebackers, you got

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Speaker 2: You got to come up and get the pitch.

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Speaker 4: You gotta get the pitch man. And that has to be.

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Speaker 3: It can't be sixty five percent of the time. It

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Speaker 3: gotta be ninety nine point nine percent of the time.

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Speaker 3: You have to and that that's the only thing that

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Speaker 3: because where we stand right here, and these guys know this,

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Speaker 3: when you leave training camp, your foundation is set, your

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Speaker 3: add layers to that as you go along. Each week

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Speaker 3: gives you a different game plan, So there's things that

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Speaker 3: When you start off the way the Cowboys have started

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Speaker 3: off this season, they have not got a chance, they

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Speaker 3: wanted it. They came out of training camp, didn't have

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Speaker 3: the coaches said, we gotta get back to the basics.

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Speaker 3: We got to get back to the basics, Mike Zimmer

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Speaker 3: the Giants, we took eight steps back. So if you

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Speaker 3: took eight steps back, now, I gotta stay focusing on

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Speaker 3: the basics of what we're doing. And you can't be

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Speaker 3: right these teams that you're facing. But you're so undisciplined

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Speaker 3: and you're so out of sorts that you don't you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not trying to.

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Speaker 5: Talk about the coach of trying to get him replaced

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Speaker 5: or anything, but this is the kind of rhetoric that

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Speaker 5: you hear from a Belichick type of team. They're gonna

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Speaker 5: beat you with their fundamentals. Uh they I already know

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Speaker 5: they don't have that much talent. We were losing a

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Speaker 5: lot of talent. The talent we had, a lot of

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Speaker 5: them are hurt. A lot of people are injured on

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Speaker 5: defensive coach and all of that. But when it comes

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Speaker 5: down to it, if you're a Bill Belichick type of team,

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Speaker 5: they're going to still be as basic and fundamental as

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Speaker 5: they need to be every time. Just like you talked

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Speaker 5: about with their triple option, they're going to be a

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Speaker 5: triple option type of team, not running the triple option,

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Speaker 5: but have that mentality as you talked about, of being

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Speaker 5: not talented but a fundamentally sound.

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Speaker 4: We're not going to shoot ourselves in the foot, We're

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Speaker 4: not jumping.

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Speaker 5: Up, We're not gonna give the We're not giving them nothing.

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Speaker 5: You're gonna have to We're gonna take it because we're

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Speaker 5: not gonna give it to you. I've always loved that

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Speaker 5: type of ball.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 5: I played for Belichick, so yeah, I understood that. I

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Speaker 5: didn't realize what an offensive genius he was. But he

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Speaker 5: So he's kind of tried to cover all angels angles

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Speaker 5: in that regard. But we're dealing with injuries as well

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Speaker 5: as not having talent, no depth, and not not much talent.

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Speaker 4: That's a problem.

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Speaker 4: But Andy Reid and Steve Spagnola are still out here

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Speaker 4: That is an up to date of what they're doing today.

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Speaker 3: They now they got some now non granted, they got

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Speaker 3: sideline and he's yelling.

442
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 4: And this is the guy that you wanted to cut.

443
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 4: And all he does is show up when you need him.

444
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,680
Speaker 3: Like he's yelling that on the sideline about me, and

445
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 3: I'm like, that's the dude when you When he says, Hey, Jess,

446
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 3: I need you to go down here and break this wedge,

447
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, point him out. Hey, Jess on

448
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 3: kickoff return their best player. He's six five, two seventy.

449
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 4: I got you. I don't know how we're gonna do it,

450
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 4: but I got you. You know what I'm saying. I

451
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 4: got you.

452
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 3: And I'm like we're gonna have to quick shot him

453
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,159
Speaker 3: to come around him. But I got you because I

454
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 3: knew that he had my back. I knew that he

455
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 3: was always honest with me and upfront with me and man,

456
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 3: he gave me the game for real, for real, and

457
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,119
Speaker 3: so for him to him, I'll always be indebted to

458
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:49,120
Speaker 3: Jody Camillis.

459
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,439
Speaker 4: Ever, wall Oh, mine is pretty simple.

460
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 5: Even though he's was a head coach and became a

461
00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 5: head coach and defensive coordinated for the Giants, Belichick, it's

462
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 5: just that culling.

463
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:03,639
Speaker 6: Now.

464
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,120
Speaker 5: He was a guy that, like you said, I learned

465
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 5: a lot from him. I learned about his professionalism. I

466
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 5: mean I knew about it, but to see a coach

467
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 5: that was as consistent as he was, and like you said, he's.

468
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 4: Going to give it to you straight. You know.

469
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 5: I remember once we played the Detroit Lions and I played.

470
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 5: I was blessed enough to play with the heck of

471
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,719
Speaker 5: a defense in New York. And there are times when

472
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 5: he had me back at safety on third downs because

473
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 5: I can take advantage of my plate making the building.

474
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 5: But the Lions kept running Barry Sanders, and Barry was scared.

475
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 4: You can see it. He was afraid.

476
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 5: I mean, the nineteen ninety you should be afraid of

477
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 5: that team. That defense was something. Take me out of

478
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 5: that defense, that front seven, and so he kept trying

479
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 5: to run him in there.

480
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 4: He wasn't doing anything. After a while, I'm just back

481
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 4: there looking. It's nothing to do. I'm just back there looking.

482
00:24:58,960 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 4: There's nothing.

483
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,880
Speaker 5: They didn't they didn't have a game plan. They weren't

484
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 5: trying to throw the wide receivers because I was waiting

485
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,640
Speaker 5: to get something. There was nothing back there. He called

486
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 5: me in on Monday and said, Everson, the man said,

487
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 5: he's talking about plusself.

488
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 4: The man said, you need to do better, like do

489
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 4: what you know? He said, do better? I mean, you know,

490
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 4: and I know what he means. You got your body

491
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 4: language is bad. But you back there. Damn, they're chilling

492
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 4: a couple of places.

493
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 5: I didn't even have to move, and they're like, man,

494
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 5: you can't do that. Man, you know, but I had

495
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 5: never been on the defense like that before.

496
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 4: And so he was right.

497
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 5: And I kept trying to all I don't want to

498
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 5: hear it. And that's what I liked about him. I'm

499
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 5: gonna be loyal to this man. That's my boss.

500
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 4: I'm not going to lose my job because of you. Right,

501
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 4: So you do what the man told me to tell

502
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 4: you to do, and we are done. I like that, bro.

503
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 4: That's what I like about New York's East Coast brothers.

504
00:25:55,760 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 5: All this polite uh crap that's going on, you know, likeness,

505
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 5: but really on the inside, they don't like it.

506
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 4: Think about New Yorkers, the East Coast people. They don't

507
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 4: like it. They gonna tell you that, but then they

508
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 4: gonna work with you though. They gonna still work with

509
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 4: you if they have to. That's why I'm always at

510
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 4: the East Coast. That's where we get along. So that's

511
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 4: why we get along. I don't like BS. We got

512
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 4: BS enough. I wasn't drafted. You wasn't drafted. You know

513
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 4: about it.

514
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 5: Man, Even if everybody get tired of just being somebody

515
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 5: BS and you all the time, happens a lot. I

516
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 5: don't mean this building I'm talking about in the South alone.

517
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 5: Now you go East Coast, man, they're gonna.

518
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 4: Hey, man, what you want? Man, I tell you what

519
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 4: I want. Oh okay, cool, Yeah, I'll help you out.

520
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 4: That's just it. That's what I like. That's what I like.

521
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 4: I love it now. Belichick is my guy.

522
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 5: Also, Nick Saban wasn't bad either as a defense as

523
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 5: a position coach. I'm talking about position coaches at that time.

524
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 5: Belichick was a defensive coordinator, but he was also my

525
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 5: position coach. The same with Nick Saban when I went

526
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 5: to Cleveland. He was my defensive coordinator, but he was

527
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 5: also my positionosician coach. And those two guys were did

528
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 5: you see.

529
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 4: Being what he became? I did? You did? Yeah? Yeah

530
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 4: I did? Because of his intensity.

531
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:11,719
Speaker 6: Bro.

532
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 5: He would just stand up there tell people all the time.

533
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 5: He respected the veterans, he really did. He was trying

534
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 5: to learn a lot from us. I appreciated that much

535
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 5: from him. But he would just stand there all the time.

536
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 5: And we asked you a question and he just robbed

537
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 5: it back and forth, looking at you. He's already thinking

538
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 5: about something else. He's not even really looking at you.

539
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 5: He's he's in his brain, just kind of his move. Yeah, yes,

540
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 5: next move.

541
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 4: Just intense.

542
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,360
Speaker 5: He would walk back and forth as he would stand

543
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 5: up there at the thing, like, man, this dude here

544
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 5: is intense.

545
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 4: So I like that about it.

546
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 3: A lot of great coaches on that staff when I

547
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 3: when I worked up there, you didn't know.

548
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 4: So it was saving. It was a defensive coordinator and

549
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 4: he had gotten the job in Michigan State when I

550
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 4: got up there. So he finished it out, finished it.

551
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 3: Out, and went up there. Kirk Farns coached old line.

552
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 3: Uh still Iowa bats was it.

553
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 4: Baits the defensive line coach? I can't remember remember Pat.

554
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 4: He ended up going to Atlanta, having a good career.

555
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 3: Pat Hill coach the tight ends, went out to Fresno State,

556
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 3: became legendary out there at Fresno State. Ozzie Knewson was

557
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 3: in personnel under Mike Lombardi and obviously we know he

558
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 3: went out there and won two Super Bowls. Scott Pioli

559
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 3: was an advanced Scott who was dating the lady that

560
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 3: I knew at my TV station.

561
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 4: She fed him.

562
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 3: Man, Jeanie used to turn the blinds on us because

563
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 3: he worked in PR.

564
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 4: So we couldn't see on the field. He was there,

565
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 4: Schwartz was there.

566
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 3: It's some assistant dude, Jim, Yeah, yeah, man, it's a

567
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 3: lot of It was a lot of just a lot

568
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 3: of you know, good dudes on that Cleveland and.

569
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 7: Look atland now. You let twenty five guys go and

570
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 7: look at you now, come on.

571
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 4: Man, they got Deshaun Watson.

572
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 2: And Mariy got like, I'm gone.

573
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 4: That brother. Keep getting colder anyway, colder and colder. You're

574
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 4: gonna be in Canada like me. Man.

575
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 3: I had a job interview Buffalo one time. Man, it

576
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 3: was so cold. I called my I wouldn't have no

577
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 3: job that time. I called him, said, yeah, I don't

578
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 3: want this job.

579
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:24,959
Speaker 5: That was one of my free agent choices coming out

580
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 5: of ground that I could have gone Cowboys Saints of Buffalo.

581
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 5: Buffalo is the first thing I crossed out, like, I

582
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 5: don't want to work that bad. I was getting on

583
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 5: the foot. I was in Austin, hang out here.

584
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 4: A little longer, and then I got the job in Cleveland.

585
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 4: I went to Cleveland. Buffalo was so bad with the

586
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 4: Cleveland this is, man, this is the same bad got

587
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 4: the flats down little. That's how bad was. That's how

588
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 4: bad Buffalo was. Now I'm in the newsroom meeting Nate.

589
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 3: I'm in the newsroom meeting and and the guy says

590
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 3: the news Hey, I know some of you are here

591
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 3: taking guns on your side.

592
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 4: You can't bring your personal gun work, and you don't

593
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 4: know what.

594
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna get on the plane tomorrow and I'm

595
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 3: never coming back, never coming back. Then that night they

596
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 3: made me be a part of the studio audience for

597
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 3: the Steve Tasker Show. I fell asleep Steven in Buffalo man.

598
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 3: All right, nickton give me your position.

599
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 2: Coach man. I had two of them.

600
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 7: That was great man, offensive lineman Tony Wise. Of course,

601
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 7: Tony Wise was a ball of energy, and uh we

602
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 7: tried to switch him over our blocking schemes and he

603
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 7: looked at us. He said, fellas, love you to death work,

604
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 7: which anyway I can. But he went to cussing about

605
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 7: his style, the way he wanted things done, and he said,

606
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 7: you know what, never threatening you, guys, but if you

607
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 7: feel you can't do this, I'll get Jimmy to get

608
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 7: you out of here. But we started deuced blocking like

609
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 7: because once again a guy that was straightforward. I love

610
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 7: you to death, right forward. Same way with Hudson Hawk. Nick,

611
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 7: you're gonna drop, step, I don't you gonna drop. Before

612
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 7: it was over, I was in shint, drop stepping and

613
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 7: running up. I like guys straightforward guys.

614
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 2: You have the talent to do it, do it. And

615
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 2: I love guys like that to straight forward, tell you

616
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 2: what it is and you have the talent to do it,

617
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 2: do it.

618
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 4: And they appreciate that.

619
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, then they gonna look out for you because you're

620
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 5: giving it all you have to them. That's what I

621
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 5: like about they They're like, okay, I can depend on

622
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 5: this guy. They there's something they have trust from your

623
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 5: you know, between the coaching player. That's amazing. It's like

624
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 5: it's a relationship now. I say Jeans Starters was tough

625
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 5: when when he uh was coaching in Dallas. UH he

626
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 5: was all about conditioning, which we needed. He was like, man,

627
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 5: I'm gonna run you all to death, and he was.

628
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 5: He did not lie, and I was accustomer that because

629
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 5: of grammar, and that's that's all we did.

630
00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 4: So I came in in shape. I wasn't worried about that.

631
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 5: But as far as technique and as far as being

632
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 5: real with you, Belichick wasn't as threatened by his higher

633
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 5: ups as Jane was by his high ups. And that's

634
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 5: not Jeane's fault. Jane was just a victim of the system.

635
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,959
Speaker 5: Ernie Stout, victim of the system. Those guys. I never

636
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 5: bring up some old ass name, But that was Tom's system.

637
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 5: That was Tom system. Everything that we did was Tom system.

638
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 5: Flex defense, flex defense.

639
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 2: And it won no flex in how he did things.

640
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 4: It was no flex. No.

641
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 3: But to your point where Bill Belichick like he was

642
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 3: very straightforward when I wasn't signed with the with the Patriots.

643
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 3: He brought me in his office and he said, listen,

644
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 3: can you do X, Y and Z. He's like, I'm

645
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 3: not asking to do nothing else. Can you do these

646
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 3: three things? Because if you can, you could be a

647
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 3: part of this team. If you cannot, don't worry. I'll

648
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 3: find one who can't.

649
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 8: It's literally what he said.

650
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 4: He said, don't worry. He's looked at me like, you can't.

651
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 4: Don't worry. I'm just gonna find somebody else who can.

652
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 4: And right, like, no, for real, for real, that's real.

653
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 3: And you're talking about how he was at practice like

654
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 3: he was so Bill Belichick used to do things where

655
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 3: I love the way that he he made competition. He

656
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 3: would have a coach come tell me before practice, a, uh,

657
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 3: you know, it's really coming down between you and this

658
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Speaker 3: other guy, so you know, might want to have a

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Speaker 3: good practice today. So now, but he had the dB

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Speaker 3: coach say the same thing to his guys. So now

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Speaker 4: But now I'm in competition with the guy he just

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Speaker 3: But then you would get on the practice field and

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Speaker 3: he would do things like practice will start things will

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Speaker 3: be going, he'll blow the whistle. He didn't like coaches

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Speaker 3: on the field because he said you couldn't do it

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Speaker 3: in the game. Get off the field. But then he'll go,

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Speaker 3: Tom Brady out with the ankle injury, give me the

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Speaker 3: number three quarterback. And now you're a number three quarterback

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Speaker 3: and you have to go in there and finish out

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Speaker 3: the rest of the period as the number one guy.

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh, stop. He'll come up to you.

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Speaker 4: He goes, hey, we're.

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Speaker 3: Playing the jutch this week. Tell me about the outside linebacker.

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Speaker 3: And you're like, uh, if you don't know, He's like, oh,

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Speaker 3: I can't trust you because you don't know the point

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Speaker 3: that you're going up against. It's Wednesday, and you can't

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Speaker 3: tell me about the outside linebacker for the New York

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Speaker 3: that's that we're about to play cool.

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Speaker 4: And give you on the bench.

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Speaker 5: Now, that's head coach Belichick right as head coach Belichick,

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Speaker 5: defensive coordinator Belichick, he had his more of a simple

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Speaker 5: plan because he's a defensive coordinator. He's not a head coach,

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Speaker 5: so he was he would have that on lock. He

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Speaker 5: had defensive coordinatorship on lock. He had nobody else talked

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Speaker 5: to nobody else to go to. Pars Sales let him

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Speaker 5: run his defense the way he ran because paus Sales

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Speaker 5: what paus Sales does. And he let Belichick do what

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Speaker 5: Belichick need to do. And in fact, by the fact,

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Speaker 5: when when I first met both of them, I called

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Speaker 5: Bill Parcelles, I mean, I want to come up here

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Speaker 5: and play.

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Speaker 4: I can I can help you out win. He got

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Speaker 4: that front seven. I can pick off some balls, man,

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Speaker 4: perfect match. And so we ended up doing that.

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Speaker 5: And when it came down to it, Belichick understood that

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Speaker 5: I was good for that team right away.

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Speaker 4: Par Sales didn't think I was good for the team.

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Speaker 4: Belichick came in.

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Speaker 5: He knew I was good for that defense. Parceales, I'm

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Speaker 5: making predictions like a Muhammad Ali part. Sales never impressed

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Speaker 5: once again. East Coast type the butler you know in

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Speaker 5: New Jersey. I whatever, kid, and he's like, meet my

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Speaker 5: defensive coordinator, Belichick, come on, and Bill Belichick was smiling

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Speaker 5: from ear to ear. He was happy to see me

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Speaker 5: because he does this. He'll take some dude. Nobody want

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Speaker 5: to deal with no more myself, Rodney Harrison, Guys, like that.

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Speaker 5: Put him in there and put them in there to

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Speaker 5: make plays not just for yourself but for the team.

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Speaker 5: Because those plays you make for yourself, those plays are

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Speaker 5: gonna be good.

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Speaker 2: For my defense every.

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Speaker 7: Fellas, That's why I would never ever Me and Jess

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Speaker 7: are gonna bump heads. I hope we keep doing shows forever.

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Speaker 7: Every run known to man Coach par Sales knew and

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Speaker 7: he didn't care how bad it got. He was gonna

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Speaker 7: run because he was not gonna let you crush his

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Speaker 7: offensive mind. Yo, Mike McCarthy, every run known, I'm telling

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Speaker 2: Gonna pay for it.

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Speaker 4: That's right. You've always said that, you always, You've said

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Speaker 4: that more than once.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we've got our break coming up, last one after

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Speaker 3: six games. Who are the Pro Bowl players potentially on

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Speaker 3: this roster?

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Speaker 2: What Aiden Hutchison was into this?

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Speaker 3: go Way. I'm going to start with you, Jesse, for

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Speaker 3: this last question of the show. As we are Final

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Speaker 3: Players Podcast of the Week. As it stands after six games,

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Speaker 3: who are the Pro Bowl players on this team?

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Speaker 4: In your opinion? You got to move him back. You

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Speaker 4: got to move him back.

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Speaker 3: If you move Tyler Smith back to left guard, he

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Speaker 3: is a dominant Pro Bowl player. If you leave him

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Speaker 3: out there at tackle, he's better than Tyler Geiton. But

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Speaker 3: you still have a hole because he's only okay average,

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Speaker 3: a little bit above average at tackle. He's first team

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Speaker 3: All Pro at guard. So if you if I'm saying that,

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Speaker 3: if you move him back to his position at left guard,

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Speaker 3: Tyler Smith is a Pro Bowl player.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you got one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good one. That's a good number. That's

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Speaker 4: all I got.

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Speaker 5: If I was gonna pick anyone, uh, Donovan Wilson.

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Speaker 4: Pro Bowl, Pro Bowl. No, No, you can go with nobody.

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Speaker 4: Then you got nobody. It is what it is. I said,

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Speaker 4: that's nobody. Okay, what you got?

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Speaker 2: You know what, man, I you know I've been a

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Speaker 2: Cowboy fans.

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Speaker 4: Excuse me, tight end Ferguson. I'll give I'll get a

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Speaker 4: fergus On.

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Speaker 2: They haven't thrown you ball enough.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he's that caliber player, but they haven't thrown the

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Speaker 7: balling up. And I feel so bad. For the first

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Speaker 7: time in my life, I could, I could say the

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Speaker 7: Cowboys don't have anybody that deserves even consideration.

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Speaker 4: That that hurts at this point.

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Speaker 6: No one.

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Speaker 2: I'm serious. I'm telling you.

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Speaker 7: Even our left guard has had some plays where I

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Speaker 7: was like, Wow, this thing is leaking.

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Speaker 4: Over on to him. Nobody saying nothing about it.

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Speaker 7: I'm serious, go back. It's the thing that is bothering.

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Speaker 7: I remember when our team was going through that one

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Speaker 7: in fifteen three and thirteen, we had players we thought

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Speaker 7: were Pro Bowler are All Pro players.

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Speaker 2: And then when at the end of the year when

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Speaker 2: all the people that came.

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Speaker 4: Out that were the Pro Bowlers and All Pro be like,

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Speaker 4: yeah he is.

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Speaker 2: He was that guy.

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Speaker 7: See, because you gotta understand where we love Tyler Smith.

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Speaker 7: It's true guards that just left out of here, that's gonna.

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Speaker 2: Get votes ahead of him, both.

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Speaker 7: Tacked guards for the Lions are gonna get consideration if

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Speaker 7: things keep going and no injuries and we keep going

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Speaker 7: how we going, because what hurts us it's the same

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Speaker 7: things that help us. When we are rolling, we get

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Speaker 7: votes from everywhere. But when things go bad for the Cowboys,

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Speaker 7: we are hated. And when people get a chance to

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Speaker 7: take some of our better players and not position them,

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Speaker 7: I promise you this man should be a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 2: Why is he not?

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Speaker 4: All? Right? Guys, missed one guy you're talking to?

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Speaker 2: Kicker?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, Kicker, the m v P of the team. Yeah,

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Speaker 13: the Mark Moseley the other team, right, he is one hundred.

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Speaker 4: Good job the first team All Pro. That's good job.

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Speaker 4: That's the first team All Pro. Yeah, And that tells

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Speaker 4: you the state of this football team. That tells you

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Speaker 4: the state of this football team.

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Speaker 3: That the one guy that we could without a shadow

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Speaker 3: of a doubt say this is a pro bowler is

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Speaker 3: the guy most of us, not you, but the players

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Speaker 3: we looked at and go kicker, we don't even respect

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Speaker 3: the like that we like, my head look at because

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Speaker 3: asked players like y'all just over there.

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Speaker 4: But you appreciate those threes and gives. I should appreciate him.

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Speaker 7: Guys on the weekends loved the fantasy They loved him

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Speaker 7: as a fantasy guy.

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Speaker 2: But I told I got into it with a guy.

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Speaker 7: I said, if we are kicking sixty yards, we are losing.

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Speaker 7: That's right, I said, you would never I told the

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Speaker 7: guy who does the show here, I said, you would

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Speaker 7: never understand that. As a player, you would get excited

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Speaker 7: about fantasy football, but you would never understand I don't

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Speaker 7: like sixty yard field goals. I'm losing. When I'm kicking

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Speaker 7: sixty yard field.

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Speaker 5: You're normally not in scoring position. Yeah, I mean you

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Speaker 5: saved that you get you're trying to get saved. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 5: so I that's a good one, but that hurts you.

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Speaker 5: You're worth your worth your weight and goals on that one.

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Speaker 5: But held that one like that was alright, the big joker.

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Speaker 2: He was holding.

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Speaker 4: He was holding it too.

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Speaker 2: Bob Lily was the only guy.

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Speaker 4: We at least had. Bob Lily. Yeah, you picked the

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00:45:56,320 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 4: one white guy. You picked the white guy soccer player.

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Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, finance guy, the finance guys.

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Speaker 4: Before we leave, if you don't mind, knew it?

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Speaker 9: Okay.

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Speaker 5: I got a call from Roy Green yesterday, former Saint

884
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 5: Louis card On wide receiver, my nemesis.

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00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 2: I love you, Rod for two reasons.

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Speaker 3: Stayed in the old days of Bush team to catching

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Speaker 3: pass from Jim Harten.

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00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, on my ass and uh Neil Lomax. And yeah,

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00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 5: it got really bad when Neil came because he could

890
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 5: throw it further. But uh, I look around here a

891
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 5: little bit every once in a while. I try not

892
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 5: to because my left ankle pretty much got fractured one

893
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 5: play nineteen eighty five Thanksgiving. I think we were playing

894
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 5: the Saint Louis Cardinals. This is when Roy and I

895
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 5: told him this. He kicked my ass all the time,

896
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Speaker 5: but in eighty five the injury start to build up

897
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,439
Speaker 5: on him, and that gave me a chance to catch

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00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 5: up and do decent this particular play they went. He

899
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Speaker 5: went deep on me for one on a few times

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Speaker 5: that I was, you know, had to cover. Lomax threw

901
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 5: the ball up, easy ball. He's hanging up there for me.

902
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 5: All I got to do is go up and catch it.

903
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Speaker 4: I'm going up for it.

904
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Speaker 5: Next thing, you know, I see this hand come across,

905
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Speaker 5: not just knock the hell out of me. Landed on

906
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Speaker 5: my back and we both landed on that ankle. I'm

907
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Speaker 5: not coming out the game. I didn't come out the game.

908
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 5: But that's what the wide receiver it does. I asked him,

909
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 5: I said, why did you do that? He said, I'm

910
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 5: taking up for my quarterback. I'm playing up. I'm just

911
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 5: telling you. I'm just telling you that. I'm just telling you.

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00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 5: I said, I see what you do. I'm telling you

913
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Speaker 5: what he said. Because it was so timely, it was

914
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Speaker 5: just so he called me. I didn't call him.

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00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 4: It was so timed. I said, I said, let me

916
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 4: ask you something. What did you think?

917
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 5: He said, Man, you got to take up for your

918
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:47,439
Speaker 5: quarterback at all times. At all times, that's what he said.

919
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 5: You got to take up for your quarterback.

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00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 4: Did y'all? Did you hang out with Neil Lomax. No,

921
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 4: I didn't hang out with Neil Lomax.

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Speaker 6: You know.

923
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 4: He was like, I think he's like five years older

924
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 4: than Neil Lomack. She got it. He said, I always

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00:47:58,640 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 4: take up for my quarterback.

926
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Speaker 3: Because we now need to go listen to the end

927
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Speaker 3: of yesterday's Players Lounge and did will tie into exactly

928
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,280
Speaker 3: what Everson Walls is saying.

929
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Speaker 4: We all know it. We're just gonna let it marinate

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Speaker 4: right there.

931
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Speaker 3: And if you really really want to understand what Roy

932
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Speaker 3: Green was saying about Neil Lomax to protect your quarterback,

933
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Speaker 3: listen to the show yesterday.

934
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Speaker 2: Roykan got my boy.

935
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Speaker 4: Yeah that.

936
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Speaker 2: Getting off the tea.

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Speaker 4: Scrugs York. Everyone will talk one Monday.

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