WEBVTT - A Conversation with Marty Lyons on the 2022 Jets (8/23)

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the official podcast. Erik Ellen here inside the

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<v Speaker 1>studio with a good friend of mine, a long time jet,

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<v Speaker 1>a four average jet that of course is Marty Lions.

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<v Speaker 1>First off, I want to say congratulations at forty years

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<v Speaker 1>so the Marty Lions Foundation. What does that mean to you? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it means that I've been surrounded by good people for

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<v Speaker 1>forty years. Because you can't accomplish anything in life by yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you think about forty years, you think about

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<v Speaker 1>all the kids and families that have come through the doors.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course you think and you remember about all

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<v Speaker 1>those children that you've lost, but you also remember the

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<v Speaker 1>ones that God gave you back, that we were able

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<v Speaker 1>to create hope and memories for the families. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to be truly blessed to accomplish something for forty years,

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<v Speaker 1>you really you count your blessings that you've got people

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<v Speaker 1>that believe in mission, people that support you financially, and um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we're just we're getting ready to gear up

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<v Speaker 1>to see how we can go to forty two forty

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<v Speaker 1>three because we're not going to stop. Very simply, what

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<v Speaker 1>is the mission of the Martin Lions Foundation. The mission

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<v Speaker 1>of the Foundation since day one, is to provide special

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<v Speaker 1>wishes for termally ill children or children suffering with the

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<v Speaker 1>chronic life threatening illness. Unfortunately, probably of the kids that

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<v Speaker 1>we work with will not see the age of eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>And your line up, uh ten of them, and you

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<v Speaker 1>go which seven won't make it? And you know, every

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<v Speaker 1>now and then God gives you back that one that

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't think was going to make it as a

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<v Speaker 1>reminder that your work has meaning, that you're making an impact.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, we've been fortunate. For forty years, we've raised

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<v Speaker 1>over forty three million dollars, helped close to families. We

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<v Speaker 1>just announced we're going to open up but another chapter

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<v Speaker 1>out in California, which will now give us I believe,

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen chapters. It truly is God's work. Though, Now, how

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<v Speaker 1>difficult is it for you knowing that, yes, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to be helping a certain number of people, but a

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<v Speaker 1>number of these kids that I'm trying to help aren't

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<v Speaker 1>going to make it. Well, I think one thing you

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<v Speaker 1>have to realize is the rules to the game are

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<v Speaker 1>never going to change. And there's been many times where

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<v Speaker 1>I'll leave a pediatric ward and I'll see two or

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<v Speaker 1>three kids and you get stuck in traffic going back

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<v Speaker 1>from New Jersey to New York, and you get frustrated,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have a little conversation with the man upstairs

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<v Speaker 1>and you go, when's it all going to end? And

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<v Speaker 1>then you're reminded that the rules aren't going to change.

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<v Speaker 1>God didn't ask you to do this. You chose to

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<v Speaker 1>do it and continue to do it. So we're all

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<v Speaker 1>here to make an impact these kids that are being

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<v Speaker 1>cheated out of life. If we take time to listen

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<v Speaker 1>to them, we take time to understand their story and

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<v Speaker 1>know that there's a name and a face. They're really

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<v Speaker 1>true teachers in life. And the one thing that I've

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<v Speaker 1>realized for forty years, none of these kids have ever said,

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<v Speaker 1>why make They all understand that they're here for a

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<v Speaker 1>short time. They're trying to make an impact to the

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<v Speaker 1>people that will listen to them, the people that will

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<v Speaker 1>take time to understand that they're not different, they're special

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<v Speaker 1>and h The number one thing is, you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>made me believe more in faith because they make me

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<v Speaker 1>made me understand that faith is believing in something you

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<v Speaker 1>can't see. But if you have enough of it, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>be rewarded. You know, when you pass away, you'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to see everything you believe that. We talked about this

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<v Speaker 1>many times before, and I know a number of people

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<v Speaker 1>who followed the Jets and followed Party Lions have heard

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<v Speaker 1>this before. But I think we should go back. What

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<v Speaker 1>three things happened in your life that made you decide

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<v Speaker 1>that I have to do something well? When I was

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five, my oldest son, Rocky, he was born on

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<v Speaker 1>March four, My dad suddenly died of a heart attack

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<v Speaker 1>on March eighth. And then a little boy that I

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<v Speaker 1>was a big brother too, named Keith, died at five

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<v Speaker 1>and a half of March Town. So in a matter

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<v Speaker 1>of six days, you go from the old and high

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<v Speaker 1>to the ultimate low. And for me, I asked the

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<v Speaker 1>Good Lord, what am I doing wrong? What am I

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<v Speaker 1>doing wrong in life? That you gave me a healthy son,

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<v Speaker 1>but you took away two people that I loved dearly

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<v Speaker 1>days went to weeks, weeks went to month, and you

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<v Speaker 1>realized time is not gonna stop for any one of us.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you realize that you had a platform. Your

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<v Speaker 1>platform was playing in the NFL, but what was your

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<v Speaker 1>real purpose in life? And my purpose was to take

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<v Speaker 1>that platform, take the god given tools and the surroundings

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<v Speaker 1>that I had and started foundation. I started it with

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<v Speaker 1>Kenny Shroy, my teammate, roommate. We had six people sitting

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<v Speaker 1>around the table. I didn't even know what nonprofit meant.

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<v Speaker 1>All I knew is I had to do something. I

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<v Speaker 1>needed a vehicle so that I could move on. Because

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<v Speaker 1>there's that old saying time heals everything, and I totally

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<v Speaker 1>disagree with that saying. I think time allows you to

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<v Speaker 1>find a vehicle to cope with the loss. It never

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<v Speaker 1>takes it takes away the pain because there's always going

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<v Speaker 1>to be an event, there's always going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>celebration where there's a missing there's an empty seat, there's

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<v Speaker 1>somebody missing. But we can't stop living because somebody has

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<v Speaker 1>passed away. We can't all children, all the people that

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<v Speaker 1>you've helped over the years. I know, like they say,

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<v Speaker 1>being a parent, you don't you love them all. You

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<v Speaker 1>love them all the same, but um you feel about

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<v Speaker 1>them in different ways because they're all unique. But that

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<v Speaker 1>being said, what are some of the wishes that you

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<v Speaker 1>guys have been able to help provide of late that

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<v Speaker 1>have stood out right? Well? I think number one the

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<v Speaker 1>first wishes always go to Disney just want to go

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<v Speaker 1>to Disney. Or number two they'd like to meet a

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<v Speaker 1>so called celebrity. Uh. Number three might be a shopperings free.

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<v Speaker 1>Number four we've been able to buy a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>dogs so that they can have some companions. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>First Holy Communion dress, which is very simple. In the

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<v Speaker 1>early eighties, e I can coming in right behind going

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<v Speaker 1>to Disney. Everybody wanted a camp quarter. And we couldn't understand.

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<v Speaker 1>As you're given the family and the child whatever they want,

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<v Speaker 1>give them the world to give them their wish and

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<v Speaker 1>it was very simple. They wanted a camp quarter. So

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<v Speaker 1>we we're good friends with PC Richards. We had a

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<v Speaker 1>family down in Florida from the Florida chapter. They had

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<v Speaker 1>a child that was two and a half years old,

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<v Speaker 1>which was underneath our threshold of three. So we made

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<v Speaker 1>an exception. I went to the board. I said, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, two and a half is very close to three,

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<v Speaker 1>and unfortunately this child that's two and a half may

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<v Speaker 1>not make it to three. Their wish is a simple

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<v Speaker 1>camp quarter, So we dropped shipped them a camp quarter.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe on a Monday or Tuesday, they had a

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<v Speaker 1>surprise birthday party for their son in the hospital. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't his birthday, but they had a celebration, took some pictures,

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<v Speaker 1>created some memories. The child end up passing away on

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<v Speaker 1>third stay. I talked to the father on Friday and

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<v Speaker 1>he said, I want to return the camp quarter. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't want the camp quarterback. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>yours and your family. And he said, if it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>for you, wasn't for your organization, it wasn't for the

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<v Speaker 1>people that believe in your organization, we would have nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to hold onto. You gave us an opportunity to create

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<v Speaker 1>memories of our son. We can never thank you enough.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's a simple camp quarter so you know, to

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<v Speaker 1>help these families, Uh, it's just a It's a tremendous opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like the more you give, the more you receive.

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<v Speaker 1>And the simple thank you at the time of the

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<v Speaker 1>event or the time you fulfill the wish is one thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But to hear about it, to run into people in

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<v Speaker 1>the community that will come up and say, hey, are

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<v Speaker 1>you Marty Lyons, And I'll say, uh, I am. They say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what. You You sponsored my child in the eighties.

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<v Speaker 1>You sponsored my child in the nineties, we never had

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity to tell you thank you. And again I'll say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>how are they doing? And there was more than likely

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<v Speaker 1>they say unfortunately they passed away. But you you gave

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<v Speaker 1>us that opportunity. You gave us memories, and that's what

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<v Speaker 1>we try to do, create that hope because the families.

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<v Speaker 1>As difficult as it is to lose the child, it's

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<v Speaker 1>even more difficult to try to move on. What are

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<v Speaker 1>the images in the videos mean to you? When you

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<v Speaker 1>see these kids experience something that they had always wished

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<v Speaker 1>for and they probably thought there was never a chance

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<v Speaker 1>that this was going to happen. Well, I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>again it's a reflection on everybody involved with the foundation.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes you feel good, makes you feel satisfied. It

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<v Speaker 1>makes you realize that I was fortunate to be a

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<v Speaker 1>professional athlete, fortunate enough to come to New York in

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<v Speaker 1>nine to be drafted, fortunate enough to be still affiliated

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<v Speaker 1>with the Jets forty three years later, and to look

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<v Speaker 1>at what we've accomplished as a group. It's very satisfying.

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<v Speaker 1>It tells you that you don't have to be a

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<v Speaker 1>professional athlete to make a difference. All you have to

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<v Speaker 1>do is care. And I think if the world looked

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<v Speaker 1>back at the pandemic, we saw the kindness of the world,

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<v Speaker 1>and we saw so much hatreds And if people realize

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<v Speaker 1>if we just respected people for who they are, but

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<v Speaker 1>you can listen to their opinion. You don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>agree with it, but listen to it, and don't judge

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<v Speaker 1>him for it, because you know what, We're all going

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<v Speaker 1>to be judged one day by by by God when

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<v Speaker 1>we pass away, He's gonna judge us. Who are we

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<v Speaker 1>to judge other people for the way they want to

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<v Speaker 1>live their lives. Just respect it. It doesn't have to

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<v Speaker 1>be the same as yours. Just respect it. Oftentimes I

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<v Speaker 1>have a problem right now with how much hatred there

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<v Speaker 1>is or why people are so angry when they refuse

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<v Speaker 1>to take a step back and maybe to see what

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<v Speaker 1>they have or what others don't um with you providing

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<v Speaker 1>continually to provide to others. What do you say to

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<v Speaker 1>young players when you talk to them about there are

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<v Speaker 1>opportunities off the field. Yes, it's great to be in

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<v Speaker 1>the National Football League, but you're not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL forever. What I tried to explain to

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<v Speaker 1>him is that there's a responsibility, there's an obligation, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's an opportunity. You're playing in the NFL. So you've

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<v Speaker 1>fulfilled your dream as a little kid. Now take it

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<v Speaker 1>one step further. Used this platform to find your purpose

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<v Speaker 1>in life. I was years ago, probably twenty years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>I was in the church in Alabama, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>a Baptist church and I was there with a friend

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<v Speaker 1>of mine and probably people. I was sitting in the

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<v Speaker 1>back of the church and the minister got up that

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<v Speaker 1>day and he started reading from the Book of Luke

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<v Speaker 1>and he said, he who as much much is expected,

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<v Speaker 1>and he would go on and on, and then all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden he'd stop and he'd go remember he

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<v Speaker 1>who has much much is expected. Well, yeah, the whole

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<v Speaker 1>time he was saying that quote, I felt like he

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<v Speaker 1>was looking at me. At one time he said it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the third time I got up, I looked around

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<v Speaker 1>me to see if there was somebody behind me, and

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<v Speaker 1>there wasn't. So I said to my buddy, who's a

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<v Speaker 1>minister down there, I said, rich, how did you do that?

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<v Speaker 1>And he says, do what? And I said, every time

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<v Speaker 1>that the minister said he who as much much is expected,

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<v Speaker 1>he was looking right at He said, that's your message

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<v Speaker 1>that you need to carry on and tell people he

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<v Speaker 1>who as much much is expected, don't look at your

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<v Speaker 1>own life from the inside out because it gets distorted

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<v Speaker 1>human nature, animosity, jealousy, It really gets distorted because people go, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I work as hard as him, why don't I have that?

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<v Speaker 1>But if you look at your own life from the

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<v Speaker 1>outside in and you realize how fortunate you are, how

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<v Speaker 1>blessed you are, then you can put the backside of

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<v Speaker 1>that quote on much as expected. Everybody has to find

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<v Speaker 1>that spot in life where you're comfortable with who you

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<v Speaker 1>are and then expect more out of yourself than what

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<v Speaker 1>you're given. It's like Archie Manning once he told all

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<v Speaker 1>of his boys Eli Peyton, you know, be more than

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<v Speaker 1>you were born to be. That's open ended. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>none of us know what we were born to be.

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<v Speaker 1>But just be a little bit more. What's that golf

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<v Speaker 1>tournament like? What was it like? This year? You just

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<v Speaker 1>had it and it's a big fundraiser for you, and

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<v Speaker 1>you get all the guys coming back and together and

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<v Speaker 1>the ladies, and then you finished the eighteen holes and

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<v Speaker 1>everybody comes to dinner. Can you describe that environment. It's

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<v Speaker 1>exciting because number one, we sold out in a matter

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<v Speaker 1>of five weeks. We over sold the golf portion, and

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<v Speaker 1>we oversewld the dinner. And then when the people come

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<v Speaker 1>in number one, it's been a long day. So you

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<v Speaker 1>apologize for that new You make sure that they understand

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<v Speaker 1>that one day out of our life, we had a

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<v Speaker 1>long day playing golf. And then I have some of

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<v Speaker 1>the kids that have survived their illness or are still fighting.

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<v Speaker 1>They get up and speak and when now as a sponsor,

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<v Speaker 1>you can identify where your money's going, it's not me

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<v Speaker 1>telling the story, it's a recipient telling the story. And

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<v Speaker 1>then we have parents that have lost a child talking

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<v Speaker 1>about what it is to lose a child. And then

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<v Speaker 1>we have special awards that we have named after some

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<v Speaker 1>of the children. We have an award after Mr Hess

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<v Speaker 1>that we give out to an athlete, and we want

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<v Speaker 1>to recognize all the children that have passed away to

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<v Speaker 1>keep their memories alive and then let their parents know

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<v Speaker 1>and let everybody know that they were important in our lives.

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<v Speaker 1>They came here not to make a you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>an impression. They came here to make an impact. And

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<v Speaker 1>there's a big difference. You know, everybody can make an

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<v Speaker 1>impression you. You know what I met with the age

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<v Speaker 1>nice guy. You made an impression on me. But you've

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<v Speaker 1>always said that to me. But the way that you

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<v Speaker 1>can change somebody's day by just saying hello, because people

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<v Speaker 1>don't realize it and be honest with you. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>work really realize it until we had a little girl

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<v Speaker 1>named Lauren that had a brain tumor and I used

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<v Speaker 1>to call her after she went through her kemo or radiation.

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<v Speaker 1>She'd go back to school and I'd call her and

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<v Speaker 1>I say, Lauren, you went back to school. That had

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<v Speaker 1>to be exciting. How was it? And she'd say, I

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<v Speaker 1>was invisible today. I said, Lauren, what do you mean

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<v Speaker 1>you were invisible? She said. I said, at the same

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<v Speaker 1>lunch table everybody walked by. I mean, nobody wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>have lunch with me. Nobody said anything. And that's not

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<v Speaker 1>kids being mean, because adults do it. Sometimes we don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what to say, but we have to say something

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<v Speaker 1>because if you don't say something, in their world, it's

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<v Speaker 1>another day where they're invisible. It's another day where nobody

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<v Speaker 1>said anything kind to him. It's like the first thing

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<v Speaker 1>you should do in the morning is look at yourself

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<v Speaker 1>and say, hey, how can I make a difference. And

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<v Speaker 1>I've read a poem or three lines, probably years ago

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<v Speaker 1>that I try to recite to myself every day. It says,

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<v Speaker 1>to dream anything you want. That's the beauty of the

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<v Speaker 1>human mind. Try to tell people dream as much as

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<v Speaker 1>you can, because if you can dream it, you can

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<v Speaker 1>see it, you can touch it, it might just come true.

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<v Speaker 1>The second line goes to do anything you want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the strength of the human will. Your body might quit,

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<v Speaker 1>but don't let the spirit. Don't let your human will

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<v Speaker 1>deter you from doing anything. And the third line is

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<v Speaker 1>probably the most important one says trust yourself to test

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<v Speaker 1>your limits. That is the courage to succeed. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes we have to think outside the box. Sometimes when

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<v Speaker 1>you are are putting together something like the Foundation, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to trust yourself that you know what you're making

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<v Speaker 1>the right decisions, you're taking everybody's opinion, and you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>what's right for the kids. And it comes down to

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<v Speaker 1>you believe in in yourself. You can take those three

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<v Speaker 1>lines and you can use them in corporate America. You

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<v Speaker 1>can use them out there on the football field, you

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<v Speaker 1>can use them in your everyday life to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that every day you try to make a difference. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to transition to football, even though that sounds quite

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<v Speaker 1>impossible at the moment. But with that being said, if

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<v Speaker 1>somebody wants to help Marty Lions forty three years down

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<v Speaker 1>the road in terms of your organization now in this

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<v Speaker 1>forty year, and they can help you in three and beyond,

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<v Speaker 1>how can they do it? All they have to do

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<v Speaker 1>is go to the Marty Lions Foundation dot org. You

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<v Speaker 1>can donate online. You can send us a message that

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<v Speaker 1>you'd like to volunteer. You can send a message that

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you have an in kind donation that you want

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<v Speaker 1>to do. Um I encourage people if you want to volunteer,

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<v Speaker 1>come to the foundation. Let us teach you how to

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<v Speaker 1>fulfill a wish and let you make contact with the family.

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<v Speaker 1>You're that you're the coordinator of their wish. So now

0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:27.760
<v Speaker 1>you're involved in every step and you build a relationship

0:19:27.800 --> 0:19:31.800
<v Speaker 1>and you get to see these families that every single

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<v Speaker 1>day for somebody's family, they get up in their routine

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<v Speaker 1>is the same. You know, they picked their child up

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<v Speaker 1>out of bed, they'll wash them, they'll feed them, they'll

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<v Speaker 1>put them in a wheelchair. And then it's every day,

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<v Speaker 1>every single day, and we've got to understand how fortunate

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<v Speaker 1>we are. And because we're in that position, it's our responsibility.

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<v Speaker 1>The opportunity is going to be there e A. If

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<v Speaker 1>it's not with the Marty Lyons Foundation, it's with There's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of nonprofit organizations out there that need help,

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<v Speaker 1>and I campaign for every one of them. And I

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<v Speaker 1>tell the people that I talked to find the one

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<v Speaker 1>that fits into your life, Find the one that you

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<v Speaker 1>can make a full commitment to. Find the one that

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<v Speaker 1>as you're working, the rewards are coming back to you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where you're going to give and that's where you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna make a difference. Congratulations, we salute you, We love you.

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<v Speaker 1>You are Mr jet Uh speaking of being Mr jet

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<v Speaker 1>How many years in the radio booth now for you

0:20:38.520 --> 0:20:41.680
<v Speaker 1>and shooes Bob and I are going on twenty one

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<v Speaker 1>and then I did I was fortunate enough to do

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<v Speaker 1>the Jet Journal TV show for maybe eight years with

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<v Speaker 1>MSG and then you know, I was fortunate enough to

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<v Speaker 1>come here in VY nine and then retire in so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, forty three years. I tell people I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>the good, the bad, the ugly. I've been a part

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<v Speaker 1>of all of it. But there's something about Joe Douglas,

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<v Speaker 1>There's something about Rob sala There's something that you feel

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<v Speaker 1>about this stability at the top, and you just think

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe maybe they got it right. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>it falls back onto the players to actually believe. Number one,

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<v Speaker 1>believe in themselves. Number two believe in the system, and

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<v Speaker 1>number three go out there and execute. You get paid

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<v Speaker 1>to play football, that's your job. You don't get paid

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<v Speaker 1>to lose games and go four and thirteen. And unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>in the business world of the NFL, no no team

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<v Speaker 1>will ever be the same. So the team is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be special, but there's gonna be a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>missing faces. Next year is not going to be the same.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're going to into your second year with Rob Salah,

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<v Speaker 1>Michael floor his offense, you know, and now it's time

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<v Speaker 1>to adapt. It's time for the veteran leadership to take

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<v Speaker 1>these young guys, take their energy, combine it all, start fast.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't go one in three, two and two to

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<v Speaker 1>begin of the year oh and four because if you

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<v Speaker 1>divide it before they've moved it to seventeen. Used to

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<v Speaker 1>divide the sixteen game schedule into quarters. If you if

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<v Speaker 1>you go one in three, your next quarter, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>go three and one, And people go, well, they got

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<v Speaker 1>a tough schedule. Well, you open up against Baltimore. Every

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<v Speaker 1>team in the NFL should be tough, can be tough

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<v Speaker 1>on a particular day. If you want to be the best,

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<v Speaker 1>play the best, and the more you play the best,

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<v Speaker 1>the more you're gonna build confidence. And you build confidence

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<v Speaker 1>by winning games or understanding why you lost the game.

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<v Speaker 1>You said you think the Jets have it right at

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<v Speaker 1>the top, and I think everybody in this building feels

0:23:08.800 --> 0:23:11.520
<v Speaker 1>the same way. Obviously I work here, so people can

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<v Speaker 1>say you're a homer. I don't think we've ever had

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<v Speaker 1>a structure like this with Hommi al Hai president, Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Douglas at GM, and now Robert Sala as head coach.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you have liked planning for Sala? He seems to

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<v Speaker 1>connect so well with players, and he's, you know, people

0:23:30.960 --> 0:23:34.160
<v Speaker 1>throw around the phrase leader of men, but he has

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<v Speaker 1>some natural leadership qualities and I think he's a guy

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<v Speaker 1>who also lives it the way he talks to people

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<v Speaker 1>about strain. We saw him today with the six shirt

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<v Speaker 1>on referencing the Navy Seals, saying that there's always more

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<v Speaker 1>flight or fright or um flight or fight. Excuse me. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>He just has a way about himself present and I

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<v Speaker 1>think people gravitate towards him. Oh, I would say, he's

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<v Speaker 1>a people's person. You know. Here, I am sixty five

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<v Speaker 1>years old. The first time I met him, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I got goose bumps and I said, wow, you know what.

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<v Speaker 1>Watching him on TV when he was a defensive coordinator

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<v Speaker 1>for the forty niners, when the defense would come up

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<v Speaker 1>with a big play and he'd run down the field

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<v Speaker 1>and chest pump his guys. That's a guy that's fully committed.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think last year, his first year as a

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<v Speaker 1>head coach, he kind of tried to taper that energy

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<v Speaker 1>because maybe he thought or maybe somebody said, hey, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>head coaches aren't supposed to do that. So it'll be

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to see how he interacts with this players this year.

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<v Speaker 1>But you see more of that. I hope we do.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope we see more of it. And uh, I

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<v Speaker 1>would have loved have played for him. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>the organization again, they have it right, this stability. They're

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<v Speaker 1>bringing in the right players. You watch of these young

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<v Speaker 1>kids play the energy that they bring, and it's got

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<v Speaker 1>to be a mixture. You can't have all the youth

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<v Speaker 1>without the experience. And I thought that that's one thing

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<v Speaker 1>that hurt does Zack Wilson last year is unfortunately you

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<v Speaker 1>you lost your quarterback coach in an accident. But there

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<v Speaker 1>was no veterans in in the quarterback room because Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Flacco had gone down to the Eagles, and Zach, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to be too much too early. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd have that five yard opener and then there's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're running a double out, and he had the twelve

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<v Speaker 1>yard uh not open, and he tried to squeeze it

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<v Speaker 1>in there and he didn't realize that. You know, these

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<v Speaker 1>defensive backs are pretty fast. Take the five yards, let

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<v Speaker 1>the receiver turn it up field. Maybe it turns into eight,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it turns into twelve. Take what the defensive as

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<v Speaker 1>you to have have this year. You know, watching the

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<v Speaker 1>first game, I think we all got caught up when

0:26:06.640 --> 0:26:10.879
<v Speaker 1>Zak got hurt. But I remember going down on the

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<v Speaker 1>field with two minutes ago, and I think if you

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<v Speaker 1>combine all the quarterbacks, uh, their completion was seventeen out

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<v Speaker 1>of thirty one. What impressed me the most out of

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<v Speaker 1>the seventeen nine of them went to tight ends. When

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<v Speaker 1>you can get the tight end involved in your offense,

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<v Speaker 1>that's your quarterback's best friend. And I think you've got

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<v Speaker 1>multiple tight ends that can play this year. Oh, no doubt, Tyler.

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<v Speaker 1>Confidence when one of the stars of camp, you got

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<v Speaker 1>c j Usam, I got Jeremy Ruckert in the mix,

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<v Speaker 1>finally getting team rops coming back from the injury, gets

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<v Speaker 1>a touchdown himself. Lawrence Case, you're making a transition from

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<v Speaker 1>making place Joe Flacco. Is he the perfect guy for

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<v Speaker 1>the situation these young jets are in. You added a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of vet in free agency, which he needed. We

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<v Speaker 1>know that, But at the quarterback position, Zach goes down.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't know the exact timetable. Fortunately escapes major injury,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's gonna be out for a little bit. Fleck

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<v Speaker 1>will look good out there today. We're taping after a

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<v Speaker 1>joint session with Atlanta Spending Football. I've been a Joe

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<v Speaker 1>fleck o fan. I watched him win a Super Bowl,

0:27:21.240 --> 0:27:23.880
<v Speaker 1>I watched him become an m v P. The thing

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<v Speaker 1>about Joe was he doesn't get too high. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>get too low, and I really think that the way

0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:34.040
<v Speaker 1>he throws the ball is a lot different than Zach Wilson.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he has a little bit more touch on it,

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<v Speaker 1>so it gets to receivers. Maybe not as fast as Zach,

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<v Speaker 1>but not as hard as that. So watching him throw

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<v Speaker 1>the ball today, he was right on target. Corey Davis

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<v Speaker 1>would come out of his break, he's right there, you know,

0:27:51.440 --> 0:27:55.200
<v Speaker 1>Elijah more right there. I think you have the skilled

0:27:55.320 --> 0:27:58.560
<v Speaker 1>players now that all you have to all you have

0:27:58.600 --> 0:28:01.080
<v Speaker 1>to do is get the ball to him, which now

0:28:01.240 --> 0:28:04.119
<v Speaker 1>puts more pressure on the offensive line. I think the

0:28:04.200 --> 0:28:08.320
<v Speaker 1>offensive line has got to be solid, starting with Connomer

0:28:08.440 --> 0:28:11.360
<v Speaker 1>Governor in in the middle. He's got to be able

0:28:11.359 --> 0:28:14.480
<v Speaker 1>to make the calls. He got two veterans tackle. I

0:28:14.520 --> 0:28:17.240
<v Speaker 1>thought George Fan I thought he had the best year

0:28:17.640 --> 0:28:22.200
<v Speaker 1>of any offensive lineman last year. You know, and uh

0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:25.200
<v Speaker 1>Vera Tucker. That kid can play. He missed one play

0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:27.440
<v Speaker 1>last year because he got a little dirt in his eye.

0:28:27.800 --> 0:28:30.680
<v Speaker 1>He's a tough kid. They're moving him over. You bring

0:28:30.720 --> 0:28:34.640
<v Speaker 1>in Tomlinson, so I think the offensive line will be solidified.

0:28:34.960 --> 0:28:38.160
<v Speaker 1>You got running backs that can run the ball, but

0:28:38.280 --> 0:28:41.000
<v Speaker 1>they also can catch the ball. Coming out of the backfield,

0:28:41.480 --> 0:28:45.200
<v Speaker 1>and that has to be a touch pass. You're throwing

0:28:45.240 --> 0:28:47.479
<v Speaker 1>it a little bit in front of him so that

0:28:47.560 --> 0:28:51.040
<v Speaker 1>they can run and catch it. Never lose stride of

0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:54.560
<v Speaker 1>going up the field. And I watched Joe throw today

0:28:54.560 --> 0:28:58.560
<v Speaker 1>and I was pretty impressed with those passes. Also, defensively,

0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:03.120
<v Speaker 1>you played on the famous front franchise history. But that

0:29:03.200 --> 0:29:06.400
<v Speaker 1>being said, what do you think about the numbers? Possibly

0:29:06.560 --> 0:29:09.760
<v Speaker 1>up front jets coming at you and waves. That's the

0:29:09.800 --> 0:29:11.600
<v Speaker 1>way they want to do this around here. They don't

0:29:11.600 --> 0:29:14.640
<v Speaker 1>want guys playing sixty five snaps. They want people fresh

0:29:14.640 --> 0:29:17.720
<v Speaker 1>in the fourth quarter. Well, you know fresh and the

0:29:17.760 --> 0:29:21.320
<v Speaker 1>fourth quarters. One thing you know, all I know is

0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:25.160
<v Speaker 1>we played first downs, We played second down, we played

0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:27.920
<v Speaker 1>third down, we played short yardage, we played gold line

0:29:27.960 --> 0:29:33.239
<v Speaker 1>back then. I'm not a big rotation guy because I

0:29:33.280 --> 0:29:36.760
<v Speaker 1>believe that on first and second down, you could be

0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:39.760
<v Speaker 1>setting that offensive lineman up for a third down move.

0:29:40.560 --> 0:29:42.960
<v Speaker 1>You could you could be in the third down and

0:29:43.000 --> 0:29:45.360
<v Speaker 1>they pick up a first down and now you know

0:29:45.480 --> 0:29:48.520
<v Speaker 1>how he's setting on you. Now you throw another guy

0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:53.040
<v Speaker 1>in there and you start over. They have so much

0:29:53.120 --> 0:29:56.720
<v Speaker 1>talent on the defensive line that, okay, if you want

0:29:56.720 --> 0:30:01.000
<v Speaker 1>to rotate, rotate, But if you have somebody out there

0:30:01.040 --> 0:30:05.960
<v Speaker 1>that's hot, that is really dominating the game, I vote

0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:08.440
<v Speaker 1>to leave him in. Leave him in there. Ntil maybe

0:30:08.840 --> 0:30:11.120
<v Speaker 1>laid in the third quarter, early in the fourth quarter,

0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:12.800
<v Speaker 1>you want to give him a couple of plays out.

0:30:13.480 --> 0:30:17.440
<v Speaker 1>But most of the players will tell you they don't

0:30:17.480 --> 0:30:19.560
<v Speaker 1>want to come out. They don't want to come out.

0:30:20.040 --> 0:30:22.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, if you're a little winded, if guys are

0:30:22.840 --> 0:30:25.560
<v Speaker 1>running a hurry up all offense, if you're play after

0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:28.280
<v Speaker 1>play after play, you know, maybe you get a little

0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:31.520
<v Speaker 1>tired to raise your hand and they put somebody in

0:30:31.640 --> 0:30:35.040
<v Speaker 1>for you. But you know they have the depth. So

0:30:35.160 --> 0:30:38.160
<v Speaker 1>if that's the way they're going to play it, then

0:30:38.720 --> 0:30:42.200
<v Speaker 1>you know. I just think that when you when you

0:30:42.240 --> 0:30:45.240
<v Speaker 1>start rotating the players in there, you have to have

0:30:45.400 --> 0:30:49.840
<v Speaker 1>better communication. Like when Joe and I we're playing together,

0:30:50.760 --> 0:30:53.480
<v Speaker 1>Joe was outside, I was inside. I'd look over there

0:30:53.520 --> 0:30:55.560
<v Speaker 1>to Joe and Joe give me a nod, or he'd

0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:59.160
<v Speaker 1>look one way. It didn't matter what I plan on

0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:01.920
<v Speaker 1>doing through to go or I knew what Joe was

0:31:01.960 --> 0:31:04.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna do, and Joe is gonna take his tackle up

0:31:04.960 --> 0:31:08.600
<v Speaker 1>the field, give him that stiff farm underneath his on

0:31:08.640 --> 0:31:13.360
<v Speaker 1>the underside of his uh shoulder pad. He wanted me

0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:16.400
<v Speaker 1>to hold the guard on the line of scrimmage to

0:31:16.600 --> 0:31:20.280
<v Speaker 1>create that space. He was gonna come underneath. I was

0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:24.640
<v Speaker 1>going to release outside. Two things can happen, well, three things.

0:31:24.920 --> 0:31:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Joe can hit the quarterback, you can throw the ball,

0:31:27.000 --> 0:31:29.640
<v Speaker 1>Joe can get the sack, or Joe flushes him. If

0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:33.520
<v Speaker 1>I have containment, I get the sack. So it's so

0:31:33.600 --> 0:31:38.120
<v Speaker 1>important to have that communication. And sometimes when you're rotating

0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:42.560
<v Speaker 1>the players in and out, maybe that communication breaks down.

0:31:43.400 --> 0:31:48.200
<v Speaker 1>Example in the Philly games, you can't have your defensive

0:31:48.200 --> 0:31:53.000
<v Speaker 1>tackle slanting in. Your outside defensive ends slanting in and

0:31:53.080 --> 0:31:56.959
<v Speaker 1>there's no containment on the outside. You know, we were

0:31:57.000 --> 0:32:02.200
<v Speaker 1>talking about it outside Lamar Jackson, perfect example. You have

0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:06.360
<v Speaker 1>to be disciplined. It's not just getting the pressure on him,

0:32:06.400 --> 0:32:09.760
<v Speaker 1>it's having the pocket collapse at the same time. You

0:32:09.840 --> 0:32:13.400
<v Speaker 1>get that pushed by your two defensive tackle. He's feeling

0:32:13.440 --> 0:32:16.840
<v Speaker 1>the pressure, he's stepping back. It starts to collapse from

0:32:16.880 --> 0:32:20.200
<v Speaker 1>the outside. He's got to go back to get outside.

0:32:20.480 --> 0:32:22.240
<v Speaker 1>You got plenty of time to catch up. Yeah, I

0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:24.720
<v Speaker 1>know it's not sexy because people would say, how are

0:32:24.720 --> 0:32:27.440
<v Speaker 1>the Jets gonna be successful this year and say Jack

0:32:27.480 --> 0:32:30.520
<v Speaker 1>Wilson's gotta throw thirty two touchdown passes, four thousand yards

0:32:30.520 --> 0:32:33.800
<v Speaker 1>and all that other stuff. For you, it's the little things,

0:32:33.840 --> 0:32:36.520
<v Speaker 1>because what we saw early in two thousand twenty one

0:32:36.920 --> 0:32:39.920
<v Speaker 1>Jets were losing a lot of football games by double digits.

0:32:39.960 --> 0:32:42.240
<v Speaker 1>What we saw on the back half of the year is, yeah,

0:32:42.280 --> 0:32:45.880
<v Speaker 1>they want some games, weren't able to close some. Tampa

0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:48.160
<v Speaker 1>comes to mind right away. That was probably the most

0:32:49.000 --> 0:32:52.680
<v Speaker 1>complete impressive performance of the year, and they were unable

0:32:52.720 --> 0:32:56.200
<v Speaker 1>to finish the deal. So the next step is winning

0:32:56.200 --> 0:32:58.920
<v Speaker 1>those close games, right because they should be in. They

0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:01.160
<v Speaker 1>should be in games from get here right. Well, you

0:33:01.240 --> 0:33:05.960
<v Speaker 1>gotta start fast and finish strong. And there's no lead

0:33:06.200 --> 0:33:12.040
<v Speaker 1>too big in the NFL that a team can't come back. Example,

0:33:12.640 --> 0:33:16.440
<v Speaker 1>the Falcons play in New England in the Super Bowl.

0:33:16.680 --> 0:33:19.000
<v Speaker 1>What they have them down to three at one time,

0:33:19.600 --> 0:33:21.600
<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden they score. Now it's

0:33:21.680 --> 0:33:24.600
<v Speaker 1>twenty eight to ten, and your defense goes out there

0:33:24.600 --> 0:33:27.760
<v Speaker 1>and they create a third three and out, and then

0:33:27.760 --> 0:33:29.840
<v Speaker 1>your offense goes out there and they score another one.

0:33:30.040 --> 0:33:34.640
<v Speaker 1>Now it's now you've got the defense playing on their heels.

0:33:35.040 --> 0:33:38.560
<v Speaker 1>You've got a coaching staff going, whoa, whoa, you know,

0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:42.120
<v Speaker 1>how how do we stop this? You know, the problem

0:33:42.200 --> 0:33:45.400
<v Speaker 1>was you took your foot off the gas. If in

0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:51.680
<v Speaker 1>the NFL, if teams can beat another team by fifty points,

0:33:51.720 --> 0:33:53.840
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna do it. They're gonna do it as a

0:33:53.880 --> 0:33:57.240
<v Speaker 1>reminder that maybe the next time we play it, we're

0:33:57.280 --> 0:34:01.320
<v Speaker 1>gonna we're gonna try to embarrass you. There's oh scholarships here,

0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:05.800
<v Speaker 1>there's no hey, let's pull it back. Let's not bloods anymore.

0:34:06.200 --> 0:34:09.840
<v Speaker 1>Let's take a knee. No, no, no, this is the NFL,

0:34:10.840 --> 0:34:14.680
<v Speaker 1>my second game, my rookie season. We lose. We go

0:34:14.760 --> 0:34:17.600
<v Speaker 1>in a halftime, it's thirty five to three. In New England.

0:34:17.680 --> 0:34:21.840
<v Speaker 1>We lost fifty six to three. They embarrassed us, you know,

0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:25.680
<v Speaker 1>and coming from Alabama, I never experienced that. And I

0:34:25.760 --> 0:34:28.359
<v Speaker 1>sat there and we get on the plane and I

0:34:28.400 --> 0:34:31.239
<v Speaker 1>remember Matt Robinson coming up to me and he goes, hey, rook,

0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:35.000
<v Speaker 1>what's wrong with you? And I go, I'm embarrassed. I'm embarrassed.

0:34:35.360 --> 0:34:39.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, we lost fifty six to three. And he goes, well,

0:34:39.600 --> 0:34:41.600
<v Speaker 1>don't think too hard about it, because we gotta play

0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:45.560
<v Speaker 1>next year, next week. Let it go. Yeah, you gotta

0:34:45.640 --> 0:34:48.520
<v Speaker 1>let it go. But it's still human nature. It sits

0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:51.000
<v Speaker 1>in the back of your mind, just like a quarterback.

0:34:51.080 --> 0:34:54.600
<v Speaker 1>You throw an interception, you have a bad pass, you

0:34:54.600 --> 0:34:57.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, you've got to let that last play go

0:34:58.320 --> 0:35:02.920
<v Speaker 1>because you can't hit it back. You gotta keep moving forward.

0:35:03.239 --> 0:35:06.359
<v Speaker 1>And that's something that I think Zach learned last year.

0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:09.160
<v Speaker 1>Now he got hurt last year, he got hurt this year,

0:35:09.640 --> 0:35:11.759
<v Speaker 1>and people say, and I was one of the ones

0:35:11.800 --> 0:35:14.759
<v Speaker 1>that said, you know, when he got hurt, why didn't

0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:17.839
<v Speaker 1>you run out of bounds? But we already know the

0:35:17.840 --> 0:35:21.799
<v Speaker 1>results of what happened when he came inside. Yeah, so

0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:24.960
<v Speaker 1>it's easy to say that, I know because I say

0:35:25.040 --> 0:35:27.719
<v Speaker 1>the same thing in the press box. I didn't have

0:35:27.719 --> 0:35:30.560
<v Speaker 1>a problem with the play, But as soon as people

0:35:31.239 --> 0:35:34.240
<v Speaker 1>see him go down, well that's a young guy's mistake.

0:35:34.320 --> 0:35:36.680
<v Speaker 1>What the hell are you doing? No, he was just

0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:40.480
<v Speaker 1>being Zack Wilson. What if he spun in and didn't

0:35:40.560 --> 0:35:43.839
<v Speaker 1>fall down and picked up another ten yards, we would

0:35:43.880 --> 0:35:48.520
<v Speaker 1>be going, wow, you know, look at look at the

0:35:48.560 --> 0:35:53.440
<v Speaker 1>athletic ability to Zach Wilson. It just you know, unfortunately,

0:35:53.600 --> 0:35:55.520
<v Speaker 1>injuries are part of the game. I saw a lot

0:35:55.600 --> 0:35:58.600
<v Speaker 1>of guys on that I played with, like Bob Crable,

0:35:59.200 --> 0:36:05.120
<v Speaker 1>Lance Smell, you know, outstanding linebackers. Non contact injuries, you

0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:09.080
<v Speaker 1>know took away their career. You know, I'm worried about McKay.

0:36:09.600 --> 0:36:13.799
<v Speaker 1>I think McKay has got uh. I would approach McKay

0:36:13.840 --> 0:36:16.319
<v Speaker 1>just like I do all the salespeople that I have

0:36:16.440 --> 0:36:21.719
<v Speaker 1>atlantic When I de scope a job, I do not

0:36:22.000 --> 0:36:25.960
<v Speaker 1>start with what you did wrong, because if I start

0:36:26.040 --> 0:36:28.920
<v Speaker 1>with what you did wrong, I'll never get to what

0:36:29.040 --> 0:36:31.960
<v Speaker 1>you did right because it's just go on and on

0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:35.160
<v Speaker 1>and on. And when I do get to what you

0:36:35.200 --> 0:36:38.719
<v Speaker 1>did right, it doesn't seem like a compliment. I think

0:36:38.840 --> 0:36:43.239
<v Speaker 1>McKay needs all that positive reinforcement to let them know

0:36:43.400 --> 0:36:45.800
<v Speaker 1>that hey, you're a number one draft choice, you're a

0:36:45.880 --> 0:36:50.759
<v Speaker 1>left tackle, you're a big man, but you have to

0:36:50.800 --> 0:36:54.919
<v Speaker 1>be fully committed not just to yourself but to your

0:36:54.960 --> 0:36:59.400
<v Speaker 1>team and take the little steps given the encouragement he needs,

0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:03.520
<v Speaker 1>and those little things that he's doing right, and blow

0:37:03.560 --> 0:37:05.120
<v Speaker 1>him up to big things. Yeah, and he did a

0:37:05.160 --> 0:37:08.920
<v Speaker 1>lot of and then then he's got to want it.

0:37:09.440 --> 0:37:12.560
<v Speaker 1>He's got a want. We can't want it form. That's

0:37:12.600 --> 0:37:16.520
<v Speaker 1>that's that doesn't work all the way from the NFL

0:37:16.760 --> 0:37:20.840
<v Speaker 1>all the way down to peewee football. So so everybody

0:37:20.840 --> 0:37:22.719
<v Speaker 1>to a man said that he wanted he put it

0:37:22.719 --> 0:37:27.000
<v Speaker 1>into work here this summer unfortunate. You're really excited for

0:37:27.040 --> 0:37:28.680
<v Speaker 1>the start of the season, so are we. We're gonna

0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:32.520
<v Speaker 1>end it right here. Joe Cleco one of three senior

0:37:33.160 --> 0:37:36.080
<v Speaker 1>finalists for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. All the

0:37:36.200 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 1>nine needs now is a vote in January and he

0:37:40.160 --> 0:37:46.239
<v Speaker 1>will be getting his jacket, and Canton and I will

0:37:46.239 --> 0:37:49.839
<v Speaker 1>be there number one and number two. He will get

0:37:49.840 --> 0:37:54.480
<v Speaker 1>the I think that for the first time in a

0:37:54.560 --> 0:37:59.799
<v Speaker 1>long time, he'll be recognized and everything will be validated

0:38:00.480 --> 0:38:04.520
<v Speaker 1>on who he was as a person, who he was

0:38:04.600 --> 0:38:07.360
<v Speaker 1>as a teammate, and the way he played the game.

0:38:08.000 --> 0:38:10.920
<v Speaker 1>And that's the most important thing is it's not what

0:38:11.160 --> 0:38:15.280
<v Speaker 1>you think or you know what you thought of yourself

0:38:15.360 --> 0:38:17.880
<v Speaker 1>as a player. It's what the people you played against.

0:38:17.920 --> 0:38:22.680
<v Speaker 1>And when you have Anthony Monio's, DWIGHTE. Stevenson, Joe the Lamellier,

0:38:23.120 --> 0:38:24.960
<v Speaker 1>all those guys that have been in the Hall of

0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:28.200
<v Speaker 1>Fame saying you know what the toughest guy went against

0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:34.080
<v Speaker 1>was Joe Clucko. I mean, if we had fifty three

0:38:34.160 --> 0:38:37.160
<v Speaker 1>Joe Klucko's we would have won the Super Bowl. Joe

0:38:37.200 --> 0:38:40.960
<v Speaker 1>cared about his teammates. He made sure his teammates were ready.

0:38:41.320 --> 0:38:43.400
<v Speaker 1>When I came in as a rookie, he took me

0:38:43.520 --> 0:38:45.960
<v Speaker 1>underneath his wing. He said, hey, you know, this is

0:38:45.960 --> 0:38:48.680
<v Speaker 1>what you gotta do. You gotta get stronger. He goes,

0:38:48.800 --> 0:38:52.759
<v Speaker 1>because I don't have a choice. I gotta play alongside

0:38:52.760 --> 0:38:55.919
<v Speaker 1>of you for as long as I'm here. And then

0:38:56.840 --> 0:38:59.160
<v Speaker 1>first part of the season we get into it. He

0:38:59.239 --> 0:39:02.440
<v Speaker 1>gets into a fight, and I do you know the

0:39:02.480 --> 0:39:06.319
<v Speaker 1>most responsible thing. I held him back. I pulled him

0:39:06.320 --> 0:39:08.400
<v Speaker 1>out of the fight. And he looks at me and

0:39:08.440 --> 0:39:10.879
<v Speaker 1>he says. We get back to the huddle and he says,

0:39:10.920 --> 0:39:12.839
<v Speaker 1>you ever do that again, I'll kick your ass right

0:39:12.840 --> 0:39:15.520
<v Speaker 1>here in front of everybody. He goes, because you either

0:39:15.600 --> 0:39:19.160
<v Speaker 1>fight with me or you leave me alone. And right

0:39:19.200 --> 0:39:22.680
<v Speaker 1>then and there, I had a teammate. I knew that

0:39:22.680 --> 0:39:24.400
<v Speaker 1>when he was in a fight, right or wrong, I

0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:26.520
<v Speaker 1>was going to get in. If I was on in

0:39:26.600 --> 0:39:29.520
<v Speaker 1>a fight, I didn't care what the other ten guys

0:39:29.600 --> 0:39:32.600
<v Speaker 1>on the defense we're gonna do. I knew I had one.

0:39:33.320 --> 0:39:35.319
<v Speaker 1>I knew Joe would be in that fight with me.

0:39:35.920 --> 0:39:39.279
<v Speaker 1>And what makes it so special to me to see

0:39:39.400 --> 0:39:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Joe have this opportunity, is the friendship that we still

0:39:44.080 --> 0:39:48.040
<v Speaker 1>have after forty three years, that means a great deal.

0:39:48.120 --> 0:39:52.080
<v Speaker 1>And you know, his son, Danny grew up into grew

0:39:52.200 --> 0:39:56.040
<v Speaker 1>up in the locker room. He was fortunate enough to

0:39:56.080 --> 0:39:58.839
<v Speaker 1>play in the NFL. He has three Super Bowl rings too,

0:39:58.880 --> 0:40:02.680
<v Speaker 1>with New England one with the Colts. And he was

0:40:02.719 --> 0:40:05.239
<v Speaker 1>a heck of a player. Heck of a player. And

0:40:05.320 --> 0:40:09.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying this in disrespect, but he'll never have

0:40:09.840 --> 0:40:12.719
<v Speaker 1>that Hall of Fame hall of famering like his dad will.

0:40:13.120 --> 0:40:17.680
<v Speaker 1>That will make it complete. Well, Uh, Marty Lions, you

0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:21.400
<v Speaker 1>are doing Hall of Fame things with the kids Marty

0:40:21.480 --> 0:40:28.719
<v Speaker 1>Lions Foundation forty years um, congratulations, bravo. And if hum

0:40:28.719 --> 0:40:32.920
<v Speaker 1>an opportunity to help, not just Marty or anybody else,

0:40:33.120 --> 0:40:37.160
<v Speaker 1>I think I think we all should do something because

0:40:37.160 --> 0:40:40.600
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of people out there in need. And uh,

0:40:40.600 --> 0:40:42.840
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for coming by. My pleasure, e A.

0:40:42.960 --> 0:40:45.320
<v Speaker 1>It's always a pleasure to be here at the facility,

0:40:45.440 --> 0:40:48.319
<v Speaker 1>to sit and talk with you and just to let

0:40:48.320 --> 0:40:52.439
<v Speaker 1>the people know that are watching this podcast. You don't

0:40:52.440 --> 0:40:54.560
<v Speaker 1>have to be a professional athlete to make a difference.

0:40:54.600 --> 0:40:56.920
<v Speaker 1>All you have to do is care, and all of

0:40:57.000 --> 0:40:59.840
<v Speaker 1>us have that opportunity in life. Whether you take it

0:40:59.920 --> 0:41:06.520
<v Speaker 1>or not, it's your choice. I encourage you to do it. M.