1 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to the official podcast. Erik Ellen here inside the 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: studio with a good friend of mine, a long time jet, 3 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: a four average jet that of course is Marty Lions. 4 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: First off, I want to say congratulations at forty years 5 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 1: so the Marty Lions Foundation. What does that mean to you? Well, 6 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: it means that I've been surrounded by good people for 7 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: forty years. Because you can't accomplish anything in life by yourself. 8 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: And when you think about forty years, you think about 9 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: all the kids and families that have come through the doors. 10 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: And of course you think and you remember about all 11 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: those children that you've lost, but you also remember the 12 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 1: ones that God gave you back, that we were able 13 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: to create hope and memories for the families. And you know, 14 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: to be truly blessed to accomplish something for forty years, 15 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: you really you count your blessings that you've got people 16 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: that believe in mission, people that support you financially, and um, 17 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: you know, we're just we're getting ready to gear up 18 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: to see how we can go to forty two forty 19 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: three because we're not going to stop. Very simply, what 20 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: is the mission of the Martin Lions Foundation. The mission 21 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: of the Foundation since day one, is to provide special 22 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: wishes for termally ill children or children suffering with the 23 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: chronic life threatening illness. Unfortunately, probably of the kids that 24 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: we work with will not see the age of eighteen. 25 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: And your line up, uh ten of them, and you 26 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 1: go which seven won't make it? And you know, every 27 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: now and then God gives you back that one that 28 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: you didn't think was going to make it as a 29 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: reminder that your work has meaning, that you're making an impact. 30 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: So again, we've been fortunate. For forty years, we've raised 31 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: over forty three million dollars, helped close to families. We 32 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: just announced we're going to open up but another chapter 33 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: out in California, which will now give us I believe, 34 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: thirteen chapters. It truly is God's work. Though, Now, how 35 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: difficult is it for you knowing that, yes, I'm going 36 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: to be helping a certain number of people, but a 37 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: number of these kids that I'm trying to help aren't 38 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: going to make it. Well, I think one thing you 39 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 1: have to realize is the rules to the game are 40 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: never going to change. And there's been many times where 41 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: I'll leave a pediatric ward and I'll see two or 42 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: three kids and you get stuck in traffic going back 43 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: from New Jersey to New York, and you get frustrated, 44 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:45,679 Speaker 1: and you have a little conversation with the man upstairs 45 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: and you go, when's it all going to end? And 46 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: then you're reminded that the rules aren't going to change. 47 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: God didn't ask you to do this. You chose to 48 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: do it and continue to do it. So we're all 49 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,679 Speaker 1: here to make an impact these kids that are being 50 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 1: cheated out of life. If we take time to listen 51 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: to them, we take time to understand their story and 52 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: know that there's a name and a face. They're really 53 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: true teachers in life. And the one thing that I've 54 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: realized for forty years, none of these kids have ever said, 55 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: why make They all understand that they're here for a 56 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: short time. They're trying to make an impact to the 57 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: people that will listen to them, the people that will 58 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: take time to understand that they're not different, they're special 59 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: and h The number one thing is, you know, they 60 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: made me believe more in faith because they make me 61 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: made me understand that faith is believing in something you 62 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: can't see. But if you have enough of it, you'll 63 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: be rewarded. You know, when you pass away, you'll get 64 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: to see everything you believe that. We talked about this 65 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: many times before, and I know a number of people 66 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: who followed the Jets and followed Party Lions have heard 67 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: this before. But I think we should go back. What 68 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: three things happened in your life that made you decide 69 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: that I have to do something well? When I was 70 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 1: twenty five, my oldest son, Rocky, he was born on 71 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: March four, My dad suddenly died of a heart attack 72 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: on March eighth. And then a little boy that I 73 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: was a big brother too, named Keith, died at five 74 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: and a half of March Town. So in a matter 75 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: of six days, you go from the old and high 76 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: to the ultimate low. And for me, I asked the 77 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: Good Lord, what am I doing wrong? What am I 78 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: doing wrong in life? That you gave me a healthy son, 79 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: but you took away two people that I loved dearly 80 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: days went to weeks, weeks went to month, and you 81 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: realized time is not gonna stop for any one of us. 82 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: And then you realize that you had a platform. Your 83 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: platform was playing in the NFL, but what was your 84 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: real purpose in life? And my purpose was to take 85 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: that platform, take the god given tools and the surroundings 86 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 1: that I had and started foundation. I started it with 87 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: Kenny Shroy, my teammate, roommate. We had six people sitting 88 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 1: around the table. I didn't even know what nonprofit meant. 89 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 1: All I knew is I had to do something. I 90 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: needed a vehicle so that I could move on. Because 91 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 1: there's that old saying time heals everything, and I totally 92 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 1: disagree with that saying. I think time allows you to 93 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: find a vehicle to cope with the loss. It never 94 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 1: takes it takes away the pain because there's always going 95 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: to be an event, there's always going to be a 96 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:55,679 Speaker 1: celebration where there's a missing there's an empty seat, there's 97 00:05:55,720 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: somebody missing. But we can't stop living because somebody has 98 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: passed away. We can't all children, all the people that 99 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: you've helped over the years. I know, like they say, 100 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: being a parent, you don't you love them all. You 101 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: love them all the same, but um you feel about 102 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: them in different ways because they're all unique. But that 103 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: being said, what are some of the wishes that you 104 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: guys have been able to help provide of late that 105 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: have stood out right? Well? I think number one the 106 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: first wishes always go to Disney just want to go 107 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: to Disney. Or number two they'd like to meet a 108 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: so called celebrity. Uh. Number three might be a shopperings free. 109 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: Number four we've been able to buy a couple of 110 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: dogs so that they can have some companions. You know. 111 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: First Holy Communion dress, which is very simple. In the 112 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 1: early eighties, e I can coming in right behind going 113 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: to Disney. Everybody wanted a camp quarter. And we couldn't understand. 114 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: As you're given the family and the child whatever they want, 115 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: give them the world to give them their wish and 116 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: it was very simple. They wanted a camp quarter. So 117 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: we we're good friends with PC Richards. We had a 118 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: family down in Florida from the Florida chapter. They had 119 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: a child that was two and a half years old, 120 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: which was underneath our threshold of three. So we made 121 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: an exception. I went to the board. I said, you 122 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: know what, two and a half is very close to three, 123 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: and unfortunately this child that's two and a half may 124 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: not make it to three. Their wish is a simple 125 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: camp quarter, So we dropped shipped them a camp quarter. 126 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: I believe on a Monday or Tuesday, they had a 127 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: surprise birthday party for their son in the hospital. It 128 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: wasn't his birthday, but they had a celebration, took some pictures, 129 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: created some memories. The child end up passing away on 130 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: third stay. I talked to the father on Friday and 131 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: he said, I want to return the camp quarter. I said, 132 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: you know, I don't want the camp quarterback. It's it's 133 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: yours and your family. And he said, if it wasn't 134 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: for you, wasn't for your organization, it wasn't for the 135 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: people that believe in your organization, we would have nothing 136 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: to hold onto. You gave us an opportunity to create 137 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: memories of our son. We can never thank you enough. 138 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: And that's a simple camp quarter so you know, to 139 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: help these families, Uh, it's just a It's a tremendous opportunity. 140 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: It's like the more you give, the more you receive. 141 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: And the simple thank you at the time of the 142 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: event or the time you fulfill the wish is one thing. 143 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: But to hear about it, to run into people in 144 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: the community that will come up and say, hey, are 145 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: you Marty Lyons, And I'll say, uh, I am. They say, 146 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: you know what. You You sponsored my child in the eighties. 147 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: You sponsored my child in the nineties, we never had 148 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: an opportunity to tell you thank you. And again I'll say, well, 149 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: how are they doing? And there was more than likely 150 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: they say unfortunately they passed away. But you you gave 151 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: us that opportunity. You gave us memories, and that's what 152 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: we try to do, create that hope because the families. 153 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: As difficult as it is to lose the child, it's 154 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: even more difficult to try to move on. What are 155 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: the images in the videos mean to you? When you 156 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: see these kids experience something that they had always wished 157 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: for and they probably thought there was never a chance 158 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: that this was going to happen. Well, I think it's 159 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: again it's a reflection on everybody involved with the foundation. 160 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 1: It makes you feel good, makes you feel satisfied. It 161 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: makes you realize that I was fortunate to be a 162 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 1: professional athlete, fortunate enough to come to New York in 163 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: nine to be drafted, fortunate enough to be still affiliated 164 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: with the Jets forty three years later, and to look 165 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: at what we've accomplished as a group. It's very satisfying. 166 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: It tells you that you don't have to be a 167 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: professional athlete to make a difference. All you have to 168 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: do is care. And I think if the world looked 169 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: back at the pandemic, we saw the kindness of the world, 170 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: and we saw so much hatreds And if people realize 171 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: if we just respected people for who they are, but 172 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: you can listen to their opinion. You don't have to 173 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: agree with it, but listen to it, and don't judge 174 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: him for it, because you know what, We're all going 175 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: to be judged one day by by by God when 176 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: we pass away, He's gonna judge us. Who are we 177 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: to judge other people for the way they want to 178 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: live their lives. Just respect it. It doesn't have to 179 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: be the same as yours. Just respect it. Oftentimes I 180 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: have a problem right now with how much hatred there 181 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: is or why people are so angry when they refuse 182 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: to take a step back and maybe to see what 183 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: they have or what others don't um with you providing 184 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: continually to provide to others. What do you say to 185 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 1: young players when you talk to them about there are 186 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: opportunities off the field. Yes, it's great to be in 187 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: the National Football League, but you're not going to be 188 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: in the NFL forever. What I tried to explain to 189 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: him is that there's a responsibility, there's an obligation, and 190 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: there's an opportunity. You're playing in the NFL. So you've 191 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: fulfilled your dream as a little kid. Now take it 192 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: one step further. Used this platform to find your purpose 193 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: in life. I was years ago, probably twenty years ago. 194 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: I was in the church in Alabama, and it was 195 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: a Baptist church and I was there with a friend 196 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: of mine and probably people. I was sitting in the 197 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: back of the church and the minister got up that 198 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: day and he started reading from the Book of Luke 199 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,959 Speaker 1: and he said, he who as much much is expected, 200 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: and he would go on and on, and then all 201 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: of a sudden he'd stop and he'd go remember he 202 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: who has much much is expected. Well, yeah, the whole 203 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: time he was saying that quote, I felt like he 204 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: was looking at me. At one time he said it. 205 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: Like the third time I got up, I looked around 206 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: me to see if there was somebody behind me, and 207 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: there wasn't. So I said to my buddy, who's a 208 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: minister down there, I said, rich, how did you do that? 209 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: And he says, do what? And I said, every time 210 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: that the minister said he who as much much is expected, 211 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: he was looking right at He said, that's your message 212 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: that you need to carry on and tell people he 213 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: who as much much is expected, don't look at your 214 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: own life from the inside out because it gets distorted 215 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:18,839 Speaker 1: human nature, animosity, jealousy, It really gets distorted because people go, well, 216 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: I work as hard as him, why don't I have that? 217 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: But if you look at your own life from the 218 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: outside in and you realize how fortunate you are, how 219 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: blessed you are, then you can put the backside of 220 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: that quote on much as expected. Everybody has to find 221 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: that spot in life where you're comfortable with who you 222 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: are and then expect more out of yourself than what 223 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: you're given. It's like Archie Manning once he told all 224 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: of his boys Eli Peyton, you know, be more than 225 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: you were born to be. That's open ended. You know, 226 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: none of us know what we were born to be. 227 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: But just be a little bit more. What's that golf 228 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: tournament like? What was it like? This year? You just 229 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 1: had it and it's a big fundraiser for you, and 230 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 1: you get all the guys coming back and together and 231 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: the ladies, and then you finished the eighteen holes and 232 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: everybody comes to dinner. Can you describe that environment. It's 233 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: exciting because number one, we sold out in a matter 234 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: of five weeks. We over sold the golf portion, and 235 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: we oversewld the dinner. And then when the people come 236 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: in number one, it's been a long day. So you 237 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: apologize for that new You make sure that they understand 238 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: that one day out of our life, we had a 239 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: long day playing golf. And then I have some of 240 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: the kids that have survived their illness or are still fighting. 241 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: They get up and speak and when now as a sponsor, 242 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: you can identify where your money's going, it's not me 243 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: telling the story, it's a recipient telling the story. And 244 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: then we have parents that have lost a child talking 245 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: about what it is to lose a child. And then 246 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: we have special awards that we have named after some 247 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: of the children. We have an award after Mr Hess 248 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: that we give out to an athlete, and we want 249 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: to recognize all the children that have passed away to 250 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: keep their memories alive and then let their parents know 251 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: and let everybody know that they were important in our lives. 252 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: They came here not to make a you know, uh, 253 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: an impression. They came here to make an impact. And 254 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: there's a big difference. You know, everybody can make an 255 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: impression you. You know what I met with the age 256 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: nice guy. You made an impression on me. But you've 257 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: always said that to me. But the way that you 258 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: can change somebody's day by just saying hello, because people 259 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: don't realize it and be honest with you. I didn't 260 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: work really realize it until we had a little girl 261 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: named Lauren that had a brain tumor and I used 262 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,359 Speaker 1: to call her after she went through her kemo or radiation. 263 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: She'd go back to school and I'd call her and 264 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: I say, Lauren, you went back to school. That had 265 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: to be exciting. How was it? And she'd say, I 266 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: was invisible today. I said, Lauren, what do you mean 267 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: you were invisible? She said. I said, at the same 268 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: lunch table everybody walked by. I mean, nobody wanted to 269 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: have lunch with me. Nobody said anything. And that's not 270 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: kids being mean, because adults do it. Sometimes we don't 271 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: know what to say, but we have to say something 272 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: because if you don't say something, in their world, it's 273 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: another day where they're invisible. It's another day where nobody 274 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: said anything kind to him. It's like the first thing 275 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: you should do in the morning is look at yourself 276 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 1: and say, hey, how can I make a difference. And 277 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: I've read a poem or three lines, probably years ago 278 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: that I try to recite to myself every day. It says, 279 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: to dream anything you want. That's the beauty of the 280 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: human mind. Try to tell people dream as much as 281 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 1: you can, because if you can dream it, you can 282 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: see it, you can touch it, it might just come true. 283 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: The second line goes to do anything you want to do. 284 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: That's the strength of the human will. Your body might quit, 285 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: but don't let the spirit. Don't let your human will 286 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: deter you from doing anything. And the third line is 287 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: probably the most important one says trust yourself to test 288 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:50,239 Speaker 1: your limits. That is the courage to succeed. You know, 289 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 1: sometimes we have to think outside the box. Sometimes when 290 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: you are are putting together something like the Foundation, you 291 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: have to trust yourself that you know what you're making 292 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:05,479 Speaker 1: the right decisions, you're taking everybody's opinion, and you're doing 293 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: what's right for the kids. And it comes down to 294 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: you believe in in yourself. You can take those three 295 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: lines and you can use them in corporate America. You 296 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: can use them out there on the football field, you 297 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 1: can use them in your everyday life to make sure 298 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 1: that every day you try to make a difference. We're 299 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 1: going to transition to football, even though that sounds quite 300 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: impossible at the moment. But with that being said, if 301 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: somebody wants to help Marty Lions forty three years down 302 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: the road in terms of your organization now in this 303 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: forty year, and they can help you in three and beyond, 304 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: how can they do it? All they have to do 305 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 1: is go to the Marty Lions Foundation dot org. You 306 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: can donate online. You can send us a message that 307 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: you'd like to volunteer. You can send a message that 308 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: maybe you have an in kind donation that you want 309 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: to do. Um I encourage people if you want to volunteer, 310 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 1: come to the foundation. Let us teach you how to 311 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 1: fulfill a wish and let you make contact with the family. 312 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: You're that you're the coordinator of their wish. So now 313 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: you're involved in every step and you build a relationship 314 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: and you get to see these families that every single 315 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: day for somebody's family, they get up in their routine 316 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: is the same. You know, they picked their child up 317 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: out of bed, they'll wash them, they'll feed them, they'll 318 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: put them in a wheelchair. And then it's every day, 319 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: every single day, and we've got to understand how fortunate 320 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: we are. And because we're in that position, it's our responsibility. 321 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 1: The opportunity is going to be there e A. If 322 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: it's not with the Marty Lyons Foundation, it's with There's 323 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: a lot of nonprofit organizations out there that need help, 324 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 1: and I campaign for every one of them. And I 325 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 1: tell the people that I talked to find the one 326 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: that fits into your life, Find the one that you 327 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: can make a full commitment to. Find the one that 328 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: as you're working, the rewards are coming back to you. 329 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: That's where you're going to give and that's where you're 330 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: gonna make a difference. Congratulations, we salute you, We love you. 331 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: You are Mr jet Uh speaking of being Mr jet 332 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 1: How many years in the radio booth now for you 333 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: and shooes Bob and I are going on twenty one 334 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: and then I did I was fortunate enough to do 335 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: the Jet Journal TV show for maybe eight years with 336 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: MSG and then you know, I was fortunate enough to 337 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: come here in VY nine and then retire in so 338 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: you know, forty three years. I tell people I've seen 339 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: the good, the bad, the ugly. I've been a part 340 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 1: of all of it. But there's something about Joe Douglas, 341 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 1: There's something about Rob sala There's something that you feel 342 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: about this stability at the top, and you just think 343 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: that maybe maybe they got it right. And I think 344 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: it falls back onto the players to actually believe. Number one, 345 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: believe in themselves. Number two believe in the system, and 346 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: number three go out there and execute. You get paid 347 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 1: to play football, that's your job. You don't get paid 348 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 1: to lose games and go four and thirteen. And unfortunately, 349 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: in the business world of the NFL, no no team 350 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: will ever be the same. So the team is going 351 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: to be special, but there's gonna be a lot of 352 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: missing faces. Next year is not going to be the same. 353 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: But you're going to into your second year with Rob Salah, 354 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: Michael floor his offense, you know, and now it's time 355 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 1: to adapt. It's time for the veteran leadership to take 356 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: these young guys, take their energy, combine it all, start fast. 357 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: You can't go one in three, two and two to 358 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: begin of the year oh and four because if you 359 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: divide it before they've moved it to seventeen. Used to 360 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: divide the sixteen game schedule into quarters. If you if 361 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: you go one in three, your next quarter, you gotta 362 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: go three and one, And people go, well, they got 363 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: a tough schedule. Well, you open up against Baltimore. Every 364 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: team in the NFL should be tough, can be tough 365 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: on a particular day. If you want to be the best, 366 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: play the best, and the more you play the best, 367 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: the more you're gonna build confidence. And you build confidence 368 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 1: by winning games or understanding why you lost the game. 369 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: You said you think the Jets have it right at 370 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: the top, and I think everybody in this building feels 371 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: the same way. Obviously I work here, so people can 372 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 1: say you're a homer. I don't think we've ever had 373 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 1: a structure like this with Hommi al Hai president, Joe 374 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: Douglas at GM, and now Robert Sala as head coach. 375 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: Would you have liked planning for Sala? He seems to 376 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 1: connect so well with players, and he's, you know, people 377 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 1: throw around the phrase leader of men, but he has 378 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: some natural leadership qualities and I think he's a guy 379 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: who also lives it the way he talks to people 380 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: about strain. We saw him today with the six shirt 381 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: on referencing the Navy Seals, saying that there's always more 382 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: flight or fright or um flight or fight. Excuse me. Uh. 383 00:23:56,160 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 1: He just has a way about himself present and I 384 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 1: think people gravitate towards him. Oh, I would say, he's 385 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 1: a people's person. You know. Here, I am sixty five 386 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: years old. The first time I met him, you know what, 387 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: I got goose bumps and I said, wow, you know what. 388 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: Watching him on TV when he was a defensive coordinator 389 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: for the forty niners, when the defense would come up 390 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: with a big play and he'd run down the field 391 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: and chest pump his guys. That's a guy that's fully committed. 392 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: And I think last year, his first year as a 393 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 1: head coach, he kind of tried to taper that energy 394 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: because maybe he thought or maybe somebody said, hey, you know, 395 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,199 Speaker 1: head coaches aren't supposed to do that. So it'll be 396 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: interesting to see how he interacts with this players this year. 397 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 1: But you see more of that. I hope we do. 398 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,199 Speaker 1: I hope we see more of it. And uh, I 399 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: would have loved have played for him. I think that 400 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 1: the organization again, they have it right, this stability. They're 401 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: bringing in the right players. You watch of these young 402 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: kids play the energy that they bring, and it's got 403 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: to be a mixture. You can't have all the youth 404 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: without the experience. And I thought that that's one thing 405 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: that hurt does Zack Wilson last year is unfortunately you 406 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 1: you lost your quarterback coach in an accident. But there 407 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 1: was no veterans in in the quarterback room because Joe 408 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: Flacco had gone down to the Eagles, and Zach, I think, 409 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: was trying to be too much too early. You know, 410 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: you'd have that five yard opener and then there's you know, 411 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: they're running a double out, and he had the twelve 412 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: yard uh not open, and he tried to squeeze it 413 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: in there and he didn't realize that. You know, these 414 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 1: defensive backs are pretty fast. Take the five yards, let 415 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: the receiver turn it up field. Maybe it turns into eight, 416 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 1: maybe it turns into twelve. Take what the defensive as 417 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: you to have have this year. You know, watching the 418 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: first game, I think we all got caught up when 419 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 1: Zak got hurt. But I remember going down on the 420 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: field with two minutes ago, and I think if you 421 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 1: combine all the quarterbacks, uh, their completion was seventeen out 422 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: of thirty one. What impressed me the most out of 423 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: the seventeen nine of them went to tight ends. When 424 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: you can get the tight end involved in your offense, 425 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: that's your quarterback's best friend. And I think you've got 426 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: multiple tight ends that can play this year. Oh, no doubt, Tyler. 427 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,120 Speaker 1: Confidence when one of the stars of camp, you got 428 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: c j Usam, I got Jeremy Ruckert in the mix, 429 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 1: finally getting team rops coming back from the injury, gets 430 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: a touchdown himself. Lawrence Case, you're making a transition from 431 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: making place Joe Flacco. Is he the perfect guy for 432 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: the situation these young jets are in. You added a 433 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: bunch of vet in free agency, which he needed. We 434 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: know that, But at the quarterback position, Zach goes down. 435 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 1: We don't know the exact timetable. Fortunately escapes major injury, 436 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: but he's gonna be out for a little bit. Fleck 437 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: will look good out there today. We're taping after a 438 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: joint session with Atlanta Spending Football. I've been a Joe 439 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 1: fleck o fan. I watched him win a Super Bowl, 440 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 1: I watched him become an m v P. The thing 441 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: about Joe was he doesn't get too high. He doesn't 442 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 1: get too low, and I really think that the way 443 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: he throws the ball is a lot different than Zach Wilson. 444 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: I think he has a little bit more touch on it, 445 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: so it gets to receivers. Maybe not as fast as Zach, 446 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: but not as hard as that. So watching him throw 447 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: the ball today, he was right on target. Corey Davis 448 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 1: would come out of his break, he's right there, you know, 449 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: Elijah more right there. I think you have the skilled 450 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: players now that all you have to all you have 451 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: to do is get the ball to him, which now 452 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 1: puts more pressure on the offensive line. I think the 453 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: offensive line has got to be solid, starting with Connomer 454 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 1: Governor in in the middle. He's got to be able 455 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: to make the calls. He got two veterans tackle. I 456 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: thought George Fan I thought he had the best year 457 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 1: of any offensive lineman last year. You know, and uh 458 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 1: Vera Tucker. That kid can play. He missed one play 459 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 1: last year because he got a little dirt in his eye. 460 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 1: He's a tough kid. They're moving him over. You bring 461 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 1: in Tomlinson, so I think the offensive line will be solidified. 462 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: You got running backs that can run the ball, but 463 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: they also can catch the ball. Coming out of the backfield, 464 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: and that has to be a touch pass. You're throwing 465 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,479 Speaker 1: it a little bit in front of him so that 466 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: they can run and catch it. Never lose stride of 467 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: going up the field. And I watched Joe throw today 468 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: and I was pretty impressed with those passes. Also, defensively, 469 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: you played on the famous front franchise history. But that 470 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: being said, what do you think about the numbers? Possibly 471 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: up front jets coming at you and waves. That's the 472 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: way they want to do this around here. They don't 473 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: want guys playing sixty five snaps. They want people fresh 474 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. Well, you know fresh and the 475 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: fourth quarters. One thing you know, all I know is 476 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: we played first downs, We played second down, we played 477 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: third down, we played short yardage, we played gold line 478 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:33,239 Speaker 1: back then. I'm not a big rotation guy because I 479 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: believe that on first and second down, you could be 480 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: setting that offensive lineman up for a third down move. 481 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: You could you could be in the third down and 482 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: they pick up a first down and now you know 483 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: how he's setting on you. Now you throw another guy 484 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: in there and you start over. They have so much 485 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: talent on the defensive line that, okay, if you want 486 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: to rotate, rotate, But if you have somebody out there 487 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: that's hot, that is really dominating the game, I vote 488 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: to leave him in. Leave him in there. Ntil maybe 489 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: laid in the third quarter, early in the fourth quarter, 490 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: you want to give him a couple of plays out. 491 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: But most of the players will tell you they don't 492 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: want to come out. They don't want to come out. 493 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: You know, if you're a little winded, if guys are 494 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: running a hurry up all offense, if you're play after 495 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: play after play, you know, maybe you get a little 496 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: tired to raise your hand and they put somebody in 497 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: for you. But you know they have the depth. So 498 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: if that's the way they're going to play it, then 499 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: you know. I just think that when you when you 500 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: start rotating the players in there, you have to have 501 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: better communication. Like when Joe and I we're playing together, 502 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: Joe was outside, I was inside. I'd look over there 503 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: to Joe and Joe give me a nod, or he'd 504 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: look one way. It didn't matter what I plan on 505 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: doing through to go or I knew what Joe was 506 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: gonna do, and Joe is gonna take his tackle up 507 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: the field, give him that stiff farm underneath his on 508 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: the underside of his uh shoulder pad. He wanted me 509 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: to hold the guard on the line of scrimmage to 510 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 1: create that space. He was gonna come underneath. I was 511 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: going to release outside. Two things can happen, well, three things. 512 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: Joe can hit the quarterback, you can throw the ball, 513 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: Joe can get the sack, or Joe flushes him. If 514 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: I have containment, I get the sack. So it's so 515 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: important to have that communication. And sometimes when you're rotating 516 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: the players in and out, maybe that communication breaks down. 517 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: Example in the Philly games, you can't have your defensive 518 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: tackle slanting in. Your outside defensive ends slanting in and 519 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,959 Speaker 1: there's no containment on the outside. You know, we were 520 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: talking about it outside Lamar Jackson, perfect example. You have 521 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: to be disciplined. It's not just getting the pressure on him, 522 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: it's having the pocket collapse at the same time. You 523 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: get that pushed by your two defensive tackle. He's feeling 524 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: the pressure, he's stepping back. It starts to collapse from 525 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: the outside. He's got to go back to get outside. 526 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: You got plenty of time to catch up. Yeah, I 527 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: know it's not sexy because people would say, how are 528 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 1: the Jets gonna be successful this year and say Jack 529 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: Wilson's gotta throw thirty two touchdown passes, four thousand yards 530 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: and all that other stuff. For you, it's the little things, 531 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: because what we saw early in two thousand twenty one 532 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: Jets were losing a lot of football games by double digits. 533 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 1: What we saw on the back half of the year is, yeah, 534 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: they want some games, weren't able to close some. Tampa 535 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: comes to mind right away. That was probably the most 536 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: complete impressive performance of the year, and they were unable 537 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: to finish the deal. So the next step is winning 538 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: those close games, right because they should be in. They 539 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: should be in games from get here right. Well, you 540 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: gotta start fast and finish strong. And there's no lead 541 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: too big in the NFL that a team can't come back. Example, 542 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: the Falcons play in New England in the Super Bowl. 543 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: What they have them down to three at one time, 544 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden they score. Now it's 545 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: twenty eight to ten, and your defense goes out there 546 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 1: and they create a third three and out, and then 547 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: your offense goes out there and they score another one. 548 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: Now it's now you've got the defense playing on their heels. 549 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: You've got a coaching staff going, whoa, whoa, you know, 550 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: how how do we stop this? You know, the problem 551 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: was you took your foot off the gas. If in 552 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: the NFL, if teams can beat another team by fifty points, 553 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: they're gonna do it. They're gonna do it as a 554 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: reminder that maybe the next time we play it, we're 555 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna try to embarrass you. There's oh scholarships here, 556 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: there's no hey, let's pull it back. Let's not bloods anymore. 557 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 1: Let's take a knee. No, no, no, this is the NFL, 558 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: my second game, my rookie season. We lose. We go 559 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: in a halftime, it's thirty five to three. In New England. 560 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 1: We lost fifty six to three. They embarrassed us, you know, 561 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: and coming from Alabama, I never experienced that. And I 562 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 1: sat there and we get on the plane and I 563 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 1: remember Matt Robinson coming up to me and he goes, hey, rook, 564 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 1: what's wrong with you? And I go, I'm embarrassed. I'm embarrassed. 565 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: You know, we lost fifty six to three. And he goes, well, 566 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: don't think too hard about it, because we gotta play 567 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: next year, next week. Let it go. Yeah, you gotta 568 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: let it go. But it's still human nature. It sits 569 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: in the back of your mind, just like a quarterback. 570 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: You throw an interception, you have a bad pass, you 571 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 1: you know, you've got to let that last play go 572 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 1: because you can't hit it back. You gotta keep moving forward. 573 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 1: And that's something that I think Zach learned last year. 574 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: Now he got hurt last year, he got hurt this year, 575 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 1: and people say, and I was one of the ones 576 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 1: that said, you know, when he got hurt, why didn't 577 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 1: you run out of bounds? But we already know the 578 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 1: results of what happened when he came inside. Yeah, so 579 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 1: it's easy to say that, I know because I say 580 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 1: the same thing in the press box. I didn't have 581 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: a problem with the play, But as soon as people 582 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,240 Speaker 1: see him go down, well that's a young guy's mistake. 583 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: What the hell are you doing? No, he was just 584 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 1: being Zack Wilson. What if he spun in and didn't 585 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,839 Speaker 1: fall down and picked up another ten yards, we would 586 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: be going, wow, you know, look at look at the 587 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 1: athletic ability to Zach Wilson. It just you know, unfortunately, 588 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: injuries are part of the game. I saw a lot 589 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: of guys on that I played with, like Bob Crable, 590 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: Lance Smell, you know, outstanding linebackers. Non contact injuries, you 591 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: know took away their career. You know, I'm worried about McKay. 592 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 1: I think McKay has got uh. I would approach McKay 593 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 1: just like I do all the salespeople that I have 594 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 1: atlantic When I de scope a job, I do not 595 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 1: start with what you did wrong, because if I start 596 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 1: with what you did wrong, I'll never get to what 597 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 1: you did right because it's just go on and on 598 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 1: and on. And when I do get to what you 599 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 1: did right, it doesn't seem like a compliment. I think 600 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 1: McKay needs all that positive reinforcement to let them know 601 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,800 Speaker 1: that hey, you're a number one draft choice, you're a 602 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 1: left tackle, you're a big man, but you have to 603 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,919 Speaker 1: be fully committed not just to yourself but to your 604 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 1: team and take the little steps given the encouragement he needs, 605 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: and those little things that he's doing right, and blow 606 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 1: him up to big things. Yeah, and he did a 607 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 1: lot of and then then he's got to want it. 608 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 1: He's got a want. We can't want it form. That's 609 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 1: that's that doesn't work all the way from the NFL 610 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 1: all the way down to peewee football. So so everybody 611 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 1: to a man said that he wanted he put it 612 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 1: into work here this summer unfortunate. You're really excited for 613 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 1: the start of the season, so are we. We're gonna 614 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 1: end it right here. Joe Cleco one of three senior 615 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 1: finalists for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. All the 616 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: nine needs now is a vote in January and he 617 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 1: will be getting his jacket, and Canton and I will 618 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,839 Speaker 1: be there number one and number two. He will get 619 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 1: the I think that for the first time in a 620 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:59,799 Speaker 1: long time, he'll be recognized and everything will be validated 621 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 1: on who he was as a person, who he was 622 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,360 Speaker 1: as a teammate, and the way he played the game. 623 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 1: And that's the most important thing is it's not what 624 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:15,280 Speaker 1: you think or you know what you thought of yourself 625 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 1: as a player. It's what the people you played against. 626 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 1: And when you have Anthony Monio's, DWIGHTE. Stevenson, Joe the Lamellier, 627 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 1: all those guys that have been in the Hall of 628 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 1: Fame saying you know what the toughest guy went against 629 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 1: was Joe Clucko. I mean, if we had fifty three 630 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 1: Joe Klucko's we would have won the Super Bowl. Joe 631 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 1: cared about his teammates. He made sure his teammates were ready. 632 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 1: When I came in as a rookie, he took me 633 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 1: underneath his wing. He said, hey, you know, this is 634 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 1: what you gotta do. You gotta get stronger. He goes, 635 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 1: because I don't have a choice. I gotta play alongside 636 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,919 Speaker 1: of you for as long as I'm here. And then 637 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 1: first part of the season we get into it. He 638 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 1: gets into a fight, and I do you know the 639 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 1: most responsible thing. I held him back. I pulled him 640 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 1: out of the fight. And he looks at me and 641 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,879 Speaker 1: he says. We get back to the huddle and he says, 642 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,839 Speaker 1: you ever do that again, I'll kick your ass right 643 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: here in front of everybody. He goes, because you either 644 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 1: fight with me or you leave me alone. And right 645 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 1: then and there, I had a teammate. I knew that 646 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 1: when he was in a fight, right or wrong, I 647 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 1: was going to get in. If I was on in 648 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 1: a fight, I didn't care what the other ten guys 649 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 1: on the defense we're gonna do. I knew I had one. 650 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 1: I knew Joe would be in that fight with me. 651 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 1: And what makes it so special to me to see 652 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 1: Joe have this opportunity, is the friendship that we still 653 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 1: have after forty three years, that means a great deal. 654 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 1: And you know, his son, Danny grew up into grew 655 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 1: up in the locker room. He was fortunate enough to 656 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,839 Speaker 1: play in the NFL. He has three Super Bowl rings too, 657 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 1: with New England one with the Colts. And he was 658 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,239 Speaker 1: a heck of a player. Heck of a player. And 659 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 1: I'm not saying this in disrespect, but he'll never have 660 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 1: that Hall of Fame hall of famering like his dad will. 661 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 1: That will make it complete. Well, Uh, Marty Lions, you 662 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 1: are doing Hall of Fame things with the kids Marty 663 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 1: Lions Foundation forty years um, congratulations, bravo. And if hum 664 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 1: an opportunity to help, not just Marty or anybody else, 665 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 1: I think I think we all should do something because 666 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 1: there's a lot of people out there in need. And uh, 667 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,840 Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming by. My pleasure, e A. 668 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,320 Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure to be here at the facility, 669 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,319 Speaker 1: to sit and talk with you and just to let 670 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:52,439 Speaker 1: the people know that are watching this podcast. You don't 671 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 1: have to be a professional athlete to make a difference. 672 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 1: All you have to do is care, and all of 673 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,840 Speaker 1: us have that opportunity in life. Whether you take it 674 00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 1: or not, it's your choice. I encourage you to do it. M.