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Speaker 1: S TOBBBC Mortgage Living Room in Frisco, Texas, Shane and Gross,
Speaker 1: Nate Newton, Jesse Holly, Kurt Daniels and man, we just
Speaker 1: had a good discussion. We almost just talked right into
Speaker 1: the beginning of the show. So yeah, kind of nonemous
Speaker 1: source came at us real stronging that end. We ain't
Speaker 1: gonna call his name, christ I'm sorry. Wow. Man. Well,
Speaker 1: the news came out yesterday. It appears that Ben Deunucci
Speaker 1: era is over. Just like that. What happened? That came
Speaker 1: that was quick? Oh man, I'll right here, I'd sell
Speaker 1: that's right. Hill Bage his error is still going on
Speaker 1: without him. It's still a young guy. He may start again.
Speaker 1: I just don't think they want to put him up
Speaker 1: against this team. He'll get just annihilated. Brother, he ain't
Speaker 1: gonna start again, you think. Let me tell you why
Speaker 1: he gonna start again. And Jesse, I show needs you
Speaker 1: to come in on this one, whether you agree or disagree.
Speaker 1: And Shannon, I'm the reason he's not gonna start again.
Speaker 1: It's because he had several throws in that game. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: that I'm talking. Remember remember going down in the end zone,
Speaker 1: he rolled out and got sacked from behind. All that
Speaker 1: had to do is throw the ball. He's not believing
Speaker 1: what he's seeing. You heard coach say a couple of
Speaker 1: games go where he feeled guys are holding back. Well,
Speaker 1: that's what happened when you have young guys at quarterback.
Speaker 1: He ain't believing it, you know, because he didn't have
Speaker 1: no success before that. They was getting after him. And
Speaker 1: when that guy, when Amark went out on that out,
Speaker 1: he was wide open, but he didn't believe him in
Speaker 1: itself enough to throw it. You can't punish the team,
Speaker 1: but for but for a certain now, if he was
Speaker 1: throwing the ball, all haphazardly like he was a couple
Speaker 1: of times. I'm down with that. But when you're holding
Speaker 1: it when you need to let it go to make
Speaker 1: yourself look good to make plays, that's too much. That's
Speaker 1: too much for your team to barrow, right, that, my friend.
Speaker 1: So here's the biggest transition from college to the pros.
Speaker 1: And we hear about it, and we don't necessarily we
Speaker 1: hear about it so much, and and and sometimes we
Speaker 1: think about it as being some sort of clock or something.
Speaker 1: The speed of the game. The game is so much
Speaker 1: more faster, right, right, guys, hear me. I dropped my
Speaker 1: mic here we go. Yeah, the game is yeah, right,
Speaker 1: the game is so much and not necessarily, Yes, the
Speaker 1: players are bigger, strugger faster. But things happen such a
Speaker 1: faster rate than it did at James Madison. And you
Speaker 1: know when you know it didn't laughing at that happened
Speaker 1: at Florida and him too, I know. But what I'm
Speaker 1: saying is that at times you have quarterbacks when you're
Speaker 1: in college, you're you don't you don't anticipate paid throws,
Speaker 1: you don't throw guys open. You say when the guy
Speaker 1: is open. And then when you play at this level.
Speaker 1: We saw it. We saw it Monday night. Monday Night
Speaker 1: is a perfect example. Two point conversion. Daniel Jones is
Speaker 1: back there, you know, with Jergens pumping the ball for
Speaker 1: whatever reason, and there's a guy open. We call that
Speaker 1: the Jerry Reich Jurgens, he's back there. He's back there
Speaker 1: with with the low shot right and he has a
Speaker 1: guy opened, wide open in the flat. We call that
Speaker 1: the Jerry Rich pass right. That ball is supposed to
Speaker 1: come out right now, he was open, he was open.
Speaker 1: But you take you take two ticks, three ticks, and
Speaker 1: now that guy's covered. And I think with Ben d
Speaker 1: Nucci coming from where he came from. No knock on
Speaker 1: James Madison, but that that that isn't high level competition.
Speaker 1: It's decent competition, and it's you know, you play some
Speaker 1: teams that you may have. You know, you may go
Speaker 1: and play a Clipson Alabama, but on a consistent basis,
Speaker 1: you have to anticipate thrills and he's just not ready
Speaker 1: for that. This this guy, he told you out of
Speaker 1: his own mouth. Listen, guys, I had no plan on
Speaker 1: playing this year. I never thought it would come to
Speaker 1: a point where we lose the first string and second
Speaker 1: string quarterback, and they'd be looking to me to do
Speaker 1: something offensively. He had no idea he was gonna play
Speaker 1: like he was just out there seeing things and hoping
Speaker 1: he can just go out there and do what it
Speaker 1: is that he does at the quarterback position. And it
Speaker 1: doesn't work that way at this level. And all you
Speaker 1: James Madison alumni his Twitter handle, He told y'all, y'all
Speaker 1: didn't have y'all were not competitive. There wasn't any competition
Speaker 1: in y'all conference. So at mister fourth in law, go
Speaker 1: ahead and date. What were you saying? Now when you listen? Now,
Speaker 1: when you come, come correct, because please, I welcome all
Speaker 1: of you. James Madison a lum. When you come, don't come.
Speaker 1: Don't come with the oh you only had six catches
Speaker 1: in the league. Fine, don't come with that. You gotta
Speaker 1: come correct because I am lethal and I'm ruthless with
Speaker 1: these words. So just to know when you come, don't
Speaker 1: come haphazardly, Come full bore, and come with some real
Speaker 1: stuff because I am going to respond with some real stuff. Okay,
Speaker 1: just to play Devil's advocate, because started Devil's advocate, Kurt
Speaker 1: I always okay, Kurt, okay. So, but you're only two
Speaker 1: options now to start a quarterback or two guys who
Speaker 1: have never started games either. Cooper Rush has three career passes.
Speaker 1: Gilbert has six career pass attempts. So neither one of
Speaker 1: these guys are probably part of your future either. So
Speaker 1: if you're gonna is this the time to develop Denucci?
Speaker 1: When is he gonna learned how to throw these games?
Speaker 1: When is he gonna learn how to pick up the
Speaker 1: speed of an actual game? If he's not out the
Speaker 1: next fret season? Next? Yeah, there you go, next pas Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something. Cooper Rush Lisa had preseason games, right,
Speaker 1: you know? And are you gonna win this game with
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush? You're not winning this game with any of
Speaker 1: them they Why not put the chance but that you
Speaker 1: can put all three of them on the field. You
Speaker 1: can put all three of them, the Nucci, Rush and
Speaker 1: Gilbert all on the field at the same time. You
Speaker 1: can put what is that? What does that give you?
Speaker 1: You can put thirteen guys on the field with them
Speaker 1: two guys being on the field at the same time,
Speaker 1: and they're still gonna lose to the pitchers. Then why
Speaker 1: not play the Nucci. Nate said it. I think when
Speaker 1: he said it, we just come back, chance, man. You
Speaker 1: owe it to the guys who are going out there
Speaker 1: risking their kahunas on Sunday to give them something a
Speaker 1: little bit more viable and a little bit more um
Speaker 1: just ready. And those guys may not be good either,
Speaker 1: but they're more ready than Ben d Nucci. And you
Speaker 1: owe it to your guys, like your Mary Cooper's, like
Speaker 1: Ezeke Elliott's, like your Zach Martins, to not just say, hey,
Speaker 1: if there's a guy who was slightly better than Ben J. Nucci, like,
Speaker 1: give us that right now and we'll work on developing
Speaker 1: Ben D. Nucci the last three or four games of
Speaker 1: the season when we're getting everybody else evaluated and ready
Speaker 1: to go as the year has ended. But right now
Speaker 1: against this team, just give us a little bit of
Speaker 1: something else than what we had in the Nucci in practice.
Speaker 1: Shannon seen it, and I've seen it. You know what
Speaker 1: amazed me more than anything, hurt and Jess when I
Speaker 1: saw him in practice. And this is the funny thing.
Speaker 1: This kid is with us next year and he plays
Speaker 1: some preseason games. You probably see it the second preseason game.
Speaker 1: He is way faster than what he was jogging on
Speaker 1: that field Sunday. Did you did you notice that? Shannon? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he is way faster than that. And I'm saying to myself,
Speaker 1: why is he messing around? Sometime? Man? He probably didn't
Speaker 1: even think in his mind that he was being hesitant.
Speaker 1: But when you don't know, you can't play fast and
Speaker 1: you can't react, and now you're not helping him at
Speaker 1: this point, you're putting him in danger. And I'm gonna
Speaker 1: share something which they got not one, not two, but
Speaker 1: three guys with six sacks. They got thirty sacks all together.
Speaker 1: Everybody got almost everybody on their team has the sack,
Speaker 1: so that he ain't gonna never know where it's coming from.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, Lee Quarter, do you really want to
Speaker 1: put him out there and say, hey man, we know
Speaker 1: we kind of put you in a buying last week,
Speaker 1: but guess what's gonna happen this week. We're gonna take
Speaker 1: out the six flags to put you on one of
Speaker 1: the more big roller coaster. Don't do it. So, and
Speaker 1: not only not only are the guys coming for his
Speaker 1: head as far as guys like t J. Watt and
Speaker 1: bub Dupree and Cam Hayward and guys like that. But
Speaker 1: there's some ball hawking guys on the back end. Mica Fitzpatrick.
Speaker 1: He ain't just trying to knock the ball down, Hayden,
Speaker 1: They're just trying to knock He ain't just trying to
Speaker 1: knock the ball down. You start throwing those balls, Arrant
Speaker 1: Lee and low and behind all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: These are casts that's gonna get it and trying to
Speaker 1: take it to the house. And there's still this and
Speaker 1: I know that only one side right now this year
Speaker 1: is competitive, but there's still this whole little Pittsburgh Cowboys
Speaker 1: Super Bowl wins and all that kind They're still that
Speaker 1: little rivalry there that you know that that kind of
Speaker 1: when the teams are good, we talk about a lot more.
Speaker 1: But now that they're playing, don't don't think that Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: is not gonna want to take their take their licks
Speaker 1: on the Cowboys right now because they're a little down
Speaker 1: and out. They're not gonna come in here and say, well, hey, guys,
Speaker 1: we're gonna take it easy. Don't either day because we
Speaker 1: know that you're down here at the full fifth string
Speaker 1: quarter about. No, they're gonna come in here and they're
Speaker 1: gonna pad them stats and they're gonna it's gonna be
Speaker 1: like a college game. It's gonna you know, how many
Speaker 1: can we get? How bad can it get? How how
Speaker 1: how and how embarrassing can we make this game from
Speaker 1: that team that people keep comparing us too. Let me
Speaker 1: tell you a little story, man. I like stories. I remember.
Speaker 1: I remember we were a bad team and in the
Speaker 1: last days of Coach Landry and we were playing I
Speaker 1: think it was wilber Marshall. Either was the Bears as
Speaker 1: the Redskins, and it was the last days of Coach Landry,
Speaker 1: and I remember I was out on the field and
Speaker 1: they was thumping us, and wilber Marshall's going crazy, kid
Speaker 1: out of University of Florida outside line, I can play
Speaker 1: for the eighty five Bears. He was going crazy. I'm like, home, home,
Speaker 1: but chill out, man, what's up? He said, y'all are
Speaker 1: the cowboys. Y'all ain't deserving. Y'all get all this respect,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna punish you'll. I was like, dog, we
Speaker 1: ain't won a game and we're gonna punish all. That's
Speaker 1: all this, y'all. I'm like, okay, home, watching my day
Speaker 1: coming one day and I'm gonna I gonna remember this.
Speaker 1: But brother, it don't matter when and where. You gotta
Speaker 1: understand that we as America's team, get all the ratings,
Speaker 1: get all the pub good or bad, on every talk show,
Speaker 1: good or bad. The dude coming in here to destroy us,
Speaker 1: and they better be ready and they better be prepared
Speaker 1: because the pr machine is great here in Dallas. It's
Speaker 1: the star baby speaking of uh speaking of being ready
Speaker 1: and being prepared, Our anonymous Sore said, if you come
Speaker 1: at Jesse and you don't have those stats, Jesse will
Speaker 1: block you on Twitter on Okay, Oh that's brother. You
Speaker 1: mean you're gonna be You're gonna be ready. Yes, you're
Speaker 1: gonna block the only time. Okay, wow, block blocking you now?
Speaker 1: The only time. There's only two. There's only two reasons
Speaker 1: I block people. There's only if you curse at me.
Speaker 1: Because I don't curse at anyone. I don't even curse.
Speaker 1: So if you cuss at me, that's one way to
Speaker 1: get blocked. Or there's three reasons you cuss at me,
Speaker 1: that's gonna get you blocked. If you say or do
Speaker 1: something racist, that's going to get you blocked. And any
Speaker 1: time that I say something in my tweet, and then
Speaker 1: you come behind my tweet and tag a player that
Speaker 1: I was talking about in my tweet. I'm blocking you
Speaker 1: because I know what I can do. I can tag
Speaker 1: that player, but I don't want to tag them in
Speaker 1: that particular tweet. Not that I'm running from them, but
Speaker 1: sometimes I may have a stat that doesn't necessarily need
Speaker 1: to be tagged by that player. So if you do
Speaker 1: any of one of those three things, I block you.
Speaker 1: And or if you're like Chris Beam, who you know
Speaker 1: just made a fourth or Beam, you get blocked. Hey man,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell y'all something, bro Uh. I purpose the
Speaker 1: kind of was slow in watching film because I watched
Speaker 1: the limit of the Game of Steelers, and I was
Speaker 1: kind of slow in watching it. Man, do we really
Speaker 1: have to go over this, Chann We don't, I mean
Speaker 1: we really don't. We really don't. Do you want? Do
Speaker 1: you what? We have to hide for the fans, for
Speaker 1: the fans, and for the fans. Let's do it for
Speaker 1: the fans. Let's take a break and let's do it
Speaker 1: for the fans. I mean fans. I'm not I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna lie. I was thinking about this this week it's
Speaker 1: gonna be tough to finish out the year on this show.
Speaker 1: Like it's gonna be tough. It's gonna be tough to talk. No, no, non,
Speaker 1: gonna have We are gonna have fun. But I'm talking
Speaker 1: about like we will find stuff to talk about. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about it's gonna be tough to finish the year
Speaker 1: doing it in the format that we've always done it.
Speaker 1: Offense defense on Wednesday, Offense Defense on Thursday, reviewing the
Speaker 1: game on Monday Tuesday, because if this, if this game
Speaker 1: goes like I think it's gonna go, the review period
Speaker 1: is gonna be about eight seconds on Monday morning, and
Speaker 1: then we're gonna have the rest of the show Monday
Speaker 1: and Tuesday to talk about whatever. I mean. Tune in
Speaker 1: to us the rest of the year, because this thing
Speaker 1: will ask potential to go completely off the rails and
Speaker 1: become a reality TV show and not even about if
Speaker 1: we may be driving around doing in the r V
Speaker 1: home doing your shows. See hey, where we're going this week? Man,
Speaker 1: We're going the week stop? Hey, meet us over that
Speaker 1: week stops and such and such. Listen, Shannon, that might
Speaker 1: be the way to do it, man, doing us one
Speaker 1: week win stop another week. Yeah, his hometown r VA.
Speaker 1: Another one. We'll just put our masks on, so we'll
Speaker 1: be sociate to put our masks on. What you're drinking
Speaker 1: a beer, Jesse's what I thought earlier. No it's not
Speaker 1: a beer, but they don't pay me, so, No, it's
Speaker 1: not a beer, but they don't pay me, so I
Speaker 1: don't want to give them credit of what it is.
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Speaker 1: So I n let's do it for the fans. You're ready, yes, sir,
Speaker 1: gall Yeah, we're gonna talk about We're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Stillers. Okay, okay. This this is not to
Speaker 1: make some of y'all not sleep into Sunday. This is
Speaker 1: ain't about that. We just have to give this information out. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get this sheet of paper here. The Pittsburgh Stillers.
Speaker 1: Let me give you some numbers why it wouldn't be
Speaker 1: a safe thing for being Denucci. This week, they have
Speaker 1: right now thirty sacks as a teams, ten interceptions as
Speaker 1: a team. That's linebackers, safeties and corners that have gotten
Speaker 1: these plays. They only spend twenty seven point well, let
Speaker 1: you say ground up. They only stand spend twenty seven
Speaker 1: minutes on the field plane, so they are fresh and
Speaker 1: they are ready to go. I couldn't believe it stat
Speaker 1: because the only one or two teams that had a
Speaker 1: lower stat in this points per game and the offensive
Speaker 1: minded era, they've given up twenty twenty point three points
Speaker 1: per game. And fellas for those of you who thought
Speaker 1: that we're gonna take the pressure off of them with
Speaker 1: Pollard and Zeke, since I know Pollard first, for you guys,
Speaker 1: they're only giving up ninety six yards rushing with ninety
Speaker 1: seven yards rushing and only two hundred and thirteen passing. Now,
Speaker 1: we've been on the averaging of ten points a game
Speaker 1: that last two or three games, so about seven point three. Okay,
Speaker 1: So all I'm saying is just right him. They got
Speaker 1: three guys with six sacks, led by t J Wats
Speaker 1: with six point five. They run a real three four defense,
Speaker 1: a real not a highbred, a real three three four defense,
Speaker 1: and a guy named Stephan Truyd, who has been there
Speaker 1: for seven years, has found his his his wheels. He's
Speaker 1: got seven sacks, excuse me, six sacks, one force from him,
Speaker 1: sixteen solos. This is a defensive end. So fellas coach, y'all,
Speaker 1: Philbin offensive line, get yourself together. Alignment, assignment, baby, because
Speaker 1: they are coming. Anything y'all want to add to that?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, by the way, they got a young guy
Speaker 1: named Steve Nelson two interceptions and me could just stand
Speaker 1: back there and him just stand anybody that makes them
Speaker 1: up a better a better team, all right. He wasn't
Speaker 1: good enough for us, but he's good enough for them.
Speaker 1: All right, Thank you. I've Nate, Nate bringing the stats, Kurt.
Speaker 1: He tried to steal your job. No good, Nah, I
Speaker 1: had to bring I had to bring him because when
Speaker 1: I was looking at him, you look at one hold
Speaker 1: on these thirty sacks. No, they sacked being thirty times.
Speaker 1: Nas on their side. So when you start looking at
Speaker 1: the sacks, I mean it's stats, you start looking at
Speaker 1: more and the more you look, and the more you look,
Speaker 1: you'd be like, wow. I mean their first place in sacks,
Speaker 1: first place in turnovers, first place in three and ounce
Speaker 1: twenty eight percent, first place in quarterback hits thirty one percent,
Speaker 1: first place in yards after contact one hundred and seventy two,
Speaker 1: first place for tackles for loss eighteen percent. So I
Speaker 1: don't know, boys, you're ready for this, Yeah, guys, ready
Speaker 1: for this. Come close uncle Jess. Uncle Jess got something
Speaker 1: for you, guys. Everybody clothes, all right, No, listen, Uncle
Speaker 1: Jesse got something for you. Guys. I'm closed though, I'm closed.
Speaker 1: All right, Here we go, Yes, sir, this is what
Speaker 1: we call a trap game. Oh no, no, he did
Speaker 1: rap way. Somebody texts saying there's some hope. This is
Speaker 1: what we call Jesse. Jesse trying to get blocked by
Speaker 1: the fans. Now you know I got blocked by Beam.
Speaker 1: Now you trying to get blocked by Jesse. Fellas, you
Speaker 1: gotta be able to score the horses to trap somebody.
Speaker 1: He gone, he gone, here's the thing, and Nate, thank you, Kurt,
Speaker 1: thank you so much because you laid out all of
Speaker 1: these wonderful stats. You know who else is reading these stats?
Speaker 1: The Pittsburgh Steelers. They're looking at these stats and they're saying, hey, bro, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna get who sacks and night e Bro,
Speaker 1: They're gonna throw me an interception to Night. And what
Speaker 1: happens is you sometimes play down to your competition. Do
Speaker 1: we think the Pittsburgh Steelers are going to go undefeated
Speaker 1: all year long? Probably not the likehood of them going undefeated,
Speaker 1: it's not it's probably not going to happen. They've been
Speaker 1: in some tough games this year that they could have lost,
Speaker 1: but they haven't. This is one of those games where
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, it's like the wounded animal. My
Speaker 1: grandmother us to always tell me, you know, Jesse, now,
Speaker 1: don't think because they scared of you that they scared
Speaker 1: to you, because the scared joker will hurt you. The
Speaker 1: wounded animal sometimes strikes with the most aggressiveness and looking
Speaker 1: looking to kill because it's wounded, because it's afraid. And
Speaker 1: so you walk into this situation when you're saying the
Speaker 1: cowboys are wounded, the cowboys are not good they're down
Speaker 1: to their fourth quarterback. You don't know that they're ready
Speaker 1: to quit, and you begin to relax. You take a breath,
Speaker 1: and you say, we got it, Fellas. You know, we
Speaker 1: don't really have to come out with that much aggression
Speaker 1: because look, the Cowboys ain't lead a team. You know. Firtherly,
Speaker 1: they hadn't a half time all year. It was last
Speaker 1: week against oh when it was up nine nine seven.
Speaker 1: And so the opposing team comes out there and they relax,
Speaker 1: they take a breath. They're not as diligent and their preparation,
Speaker 1: whether that be filmed or practice, because they're looking at
Speaker 1: this team and saying, we can beat this team with
Speaker 1: our eyes close. Fellas. This is one of those games
Speaker 1: that we like to call a trap game. It's when
Speaker 1: you think you're supposed to come in here and just
Speaker 1: dominate a team. We saw it happened last week against
Speaker 1: the La Rams and the Miami Dolphins. You just thought, hey,
Speaker 1: we'll be fine. Rams, we're playing great defense. You gave
Speaker 1: up a part return for a touchdown, you gave up
Speaker 1: an interception for a touchdown, and you're able to fumble
Speaker 1: for a touchdown. All all of these things are valuable. Options.
Speaker 1: You don't think that the Cowboys can return the pup
Speaker 1: for a touchdown, Sure they can't. You don't think that
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger sometimes hold the ball a little bit too
Speaker 1: much and get a strip sack. I mean, DeMarcus Lawrence
Speaker 1: is still a good player. He can still make players
Speaker 1: every now and again, all the Smith and Randy Gregory
Speaker 1: strip sack from before touchdown. Sure they can. Sometimes Ben
Speaker 1: gets a little bit because with the ball, and he
Speaker 1: can throw an interception to you that can be run
Speaker 1: back for a touchdown. This is a beautiful game that
Speaker 1: we played, but that ball that we played with is
Speaker 1: not a round ball. It is an oblong ball and
Speaker 1: it doesn't always bounce up and down. This is one
Speaker 1: of those games that you go into, Fellas and everything
Speaker 1: looks like the Pittsburgh Steelers is going to run away
Speaker 1: with this astronomically, and I'm not saying that they aren't.
Speaker 1: But there are games that are played and sometimes you
Speaker 1: fall into the bears trap. This could be one of
Speaker 1: those games. Any y'all buying that telling me there's some hope.
Speaker 1: There's always a chance, Star, there's a chance. I mean,
Speaker 1: like you said, the ball bounce is funny. I never know.
Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen upsets in the past. So, Nate,
Speaker 1: we the year I won the national championship in two
Speaker 1: thousand and five, we went and played a team called
Speaker 1: Saint Mary's out of California. Now we're the big, mighty,
Speaker 1: all powerful you would see North Carolina tar Heels. There's
Speaker 1: no way that Saint Mary's is supposed to be on
Speaker 1: the same floor with us. We're supposed to mock these
Speaker 1: guys up, and we supposed your sub is supposed to
Speaker 1: be in with ten minutes left because you're up by forty.
Speaker 1: This is supposed to be one of those fun games
Speaker 1: that you go out and you're throwing ally hoops and
Speaker 1: all that kind of crazy stuff. You know what, Nate,
Speaker 1: we lost to Saint Mary's. Every shot that Saint Mary's
Speaker 1: put up it seemed like it was going in, and
Speaker 1: every shot that we put up it just seems like
Speaker 1: it would not go in the basket. And we lost
Speaker 1: to Saint Mary's. Now, granted it was early in the year,
Speaker 1: so we had time to rebound from it and go
Speaker 1: on to win a national championship. But every single game
Speaker 1: that you come into anything can happen. And I know
Speaker 1: that this team is is one snake bitten to use
Speaker 1: a Kurt term. But crazier things have happened, Nathan, Crazier
Speaker 1: things have happened. The voice of reason, ladies and gentleman,
Speaker 1: he knows, he knows. What do you do? Camera? Heywood
Speaker 1: is questionable, Tyson, he did not pict Other than that.
Speaker 1: Other than that, the whole defense is intact. Yeah, you've
Speaker 1: got some most stats. No, I got a question for you. Yes,
Speaker 1: although you all the good, really great dominant to you've
Speaker 1: been on, and then the few really bad teams you've
Speaker 1: been on, you had to have been on a team
Speaker 1: that had zero chance according to the experts, the fans
Speaker 1: or whatever. That Super Bowl Washington Redskins, Okay, super Bowl
Speaker 1: Washing Redskins that one year with Jimmy, Yeah, we beat
Speaker 1: them from it, So it could happen. I mean, it
Speaker 1: could happen that a team I guess that's as dysfunctional
Speaker 1: as the Cowboys are right now, where there's so much
Speaker 1: wrong with it. I mean we've seen it. You see it.
Speaker 1: That's why they played the games on Sunday. You see
Speaker 1: it all the time in the NFL. I mean you
Speaker 1: remember how you went into that they had they had
Speaker 1: a week four by due to the COVID nineteen deal,
Speaker 1: but it was forced to have a bye and they've
Speaker 1: been angry ever since. Man, they've been kind of mad
Speaker 1: every since because the dude had to miss his son's
Speaker 1: birthday party. So, I mean, and then they d line
Speaker 1: coaches called Dunbar got them going. Well, you know, Stephen's
Speaker 1: a coordinated Keith Butler. I think it's his third six
Speaker 1: year at this So what you're saying is Nate, that
Speaker 1: there's no chance in the world at the Cowboys can
Speaker 1: go into this game compete hard enough well enough to
Speaker 1: pull out a victory. I mean a punt block, a
Speaker 1: pup return, a kickoff return, a strip, sack fumble, a
Speaker 1: regular fumble, an intercept. I mean, there are multiple ways
Speaker 1: where this thing can go bad for football team. Watch
Speaker 1: the Rams game from last week. Everyone thought the Rams
Speaker 1: were gonna go down there and Aaron Donald and company
Speaker 1: was going to just rip Tour's head off, and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, up Jachim Grant pup returned back for
Speaker 1: a touchdown. They won at They won at the Ravens
Speaker 1: eight to twenty four. They've made the quarterback fumble three
Speaker 1: times and he lost two of them, and he threw
Speaker 1: two interceptions. Lamar Jackson. Yeah, they they ain't. They ain't
Speaker 1: playing too well right now. They read the clip. They
Speaker 1: seven and oh, let me say this, the New York Jets,
Speaker 1: the New York Giants just took what most may seem
Speaker 1: like the Tampa Bay Buccaneers with Tom Brady the goat.
Speaker 1: They just took them down to the wire with a
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna be honest with you, if Daniel Jones
Speaker 1: just throws the ball two ticks early, we're talking about
Speaker 1: them now going to overtime. They would go to overtime
Speaker 1: with the mighty great, mighty old, mighty powerful Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: People had that game where it was a fourteen point
Speaker 1: supposed to be plus blowout, and here there was down
Speaker 1: to the last player of the game two point conversion.
Speaker 1: If Daniel Jones throws the ball when he's supposed to
Speaker 1: throw it, we're talking about the Giants of New York
Speaker 1: City going into overtime with the Bucks of Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: with the goat quarterback Tom Brady. I mean those fifth
Speaker 1: week that the Eagles ran twenty some point and they
Speaker 1: ran off like twenty some points, but they still got
Speaker 1: beat thirty twenty nine to a seven and old Pittsburgh stillers.
Speaker 1: I guess it's time to go for a break. They
Speaker 1: were in there, yeah, yeah, just like just like they
Speaker 1: were in the game with Tom Brady them. But go see,
Speaker 1: We're go see if we can get Nate. They walked
Speaker 1: off the field hugging Tom Brady once. I never thought
Speaker 1: I'd see Jesse being the positive one and Nate you
Speaker 1: flipping everything on its time there. You know that's what happens. Whatever,
Speaker 1: you know football, whatever we're going to break, we'll be back. Okay,
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Speaker 1: It was Chris Bean manning the control room live from
Speaker 1: the Star and we are entering the final segment, the
Speaker 1: final ten minutes of the show. Hopefully we have positive
Speaker 1: Nate back reality. Jesse and Kurt, where do you want
Speaker 1: to take this last the last segment? Where do you
Speaker 1: want to go? Where do you want to go with us? Kurt? Nate?
Speaker 1: Will you want to go? Man? Kurt Nate? Hey, well,
Speaker 1: let me say this, yere Okay, I didn't like my
Speaker 1: last segment. Nate, you were magnificent soul. I didn't give
Speaker 1: any compel. I didn't give any compel information right there? Man?
Speaker 1: You did you did? I mean you took us some
Speaker 1: on the highest high. You took that kid, Cooper whatever's name,
Speaker 1: gonna start this week. You took him to the top
Speaker 1: of space Mountain. Come on, now, he's gonna get dropped
Speaker 1: this weekend on Sunday. Okay, Hey, I'm not saying I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give you that cocaine high. Baby, let's go. I
Speaker 1: say no, I don't say that. Don't say don't give him.
Speaker 1: I don't say, baby, you're gonna give him a natural
Speaker 1: high anyway. I don't know how. I don't know how
Speaker 1: your fault we're going to be. My job is to
Speaker 1: get you to the mountain top. That's it. I don't
Speaker 1: know how. I don't know how your faults supposed to be.
Speaker 1: That ain't that I didn't. I didn't think that far. Nate,
Speaker 1: I don't think that far. Yeah, I know you didn't.
Speaker 1: I think about that show high is I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: people to believe I don't have time to think about
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen tomorrow. I'm gonna get you to the date.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a mountain top today. I say, senior
Speaker 1: trap game. What from the Steelers perspective, you guys played
Speaker 1: on dominant teams. I mean, Nate back in the nineties
Speaker 1: and Jesse something you well, especially with Carolina and basketball.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you wait minute, way, how did you, Nate,
Speaker 1: you played those some dominant foot He stumbled, He stumbled hard. Jesse,
Speaker 1: you know you played in college. Yeah, but I'm say
Speaker 1: it relates. It relates because you guys obviously had games
Speaker 1: where you knew you were facing the team that you
Speaker 1: were just gonna blow out. They had no chance of winning.
Speaker 1: How did do you remember looking at across the line
Speaker 1: there and seeing those guys and could see it in
Speaker 1: their eyes, you know that they were gonna lose, that
Speaker 1: you had a beat before the clock even started. I've
Speaker 1: been on the opposite end of that. We played those
Speaker 1: Bears and we was the soldier field we had, and
Speaker 1: I'm looking in the eyes of Singletary and he looking
Speaker 1: at my eyes and stuff running out his nose and
Speaker 1: he foaming at the mob. I couldn't leave. This was
Speaker 1: a human man, and he knocks out Steve for a
Speaker 1: little worse than what this other kid got knocked out Dalton.
Speaker 1: When I saw that right there, and I looked at
Speaker 1: the rest of the player, I said, y'all know where
Speaker 1: for a long day? Half the guys it was already
Speaker 1: walking back to the hother like wow. At that point
Speaker 1: does it become yea gonna lose? But survival survival. It's
Speaker 1: each individual, see right about now. You play within the
Speaker 1: team concept, and you play as hard and as smart
Speaker 1: as you can. You are always auditioning for thirty one
Speaker 1: other teams, and you never can forget that. And you
Speaker 1: surround yourself with guys in that locker room that's believing
Speaker 1: what you believe. You can't tell Ceedee Lamb, he ain't
Speaker 1: the coldest thing in the world. You can't tell Gallup
Speaker 1: he ain't the coldest thing in the world. You can't
Speaker 1: tell your right guard, the president that he ain't the
Speaker 1: coldest thing in the world. They play like it now.
Speaker 1: Other guys may want to play like it, but your
Speaker 1: ability and your heel said it's not there, so your
Speaker 1: confidence waynes as the game go on, I'm serious. You
Speaker 1: can be the most enthusiastic guy in the world. But
Speaker 1: if number ninety nine standing over your head and Pro
Speaker 1: Football Focus got you ranked one hundred and thirty five
Speaker 1: out one hundred and thirty four, you in trump. Brother,
Speaker 1: What about Okay? I can see that as a as
Speaker 1: a lineman, you could say, okay, I'm gonna this. This
Speaker 1: defensive tackle isn't gonna beat me this time, and you
Speaker 1: can kind of you can have your and then you
Speaker 1: get ran over and then you just get bulled over
Speaker 1: like some people we know. But I'm just asking, is this,
Speaker 1: Can you have the game, you know, your own personal
Speaker 1: battle make it a difference, even though you know you're
Speaker 1: gonna lose the game, You're gonna say I'm gonna win
Speaker 1: this matchup? Yes, yes, you can't. Can Yes? How about?
Speaker 1: How about for a receiver, you're not gonna get the
Speaker 1: ball thrown to you, but you can say I got
Speaker 1: I had that guy beat on that route? Yea, because
Speaker 1: oh yeah, that's anyway, what's that man Monday. And we've
Speaker 1: all heard the cliche term the eye and the sky
Speaker 1: doesn't lie, right, that's right. So Monday when the when
Speaker 1: the film pops on. And this is whether your team
Speaker 1: is oh and seven or seven and oh. When that
Speaker 1: film turns on, you want to know and you want
Speaker 1: to you want people to see them. But I did
Speaker 1: my job, And coaches will always tell you, hey, Nate, hey, Jesse, Hey, Kurt, hey, Shannon, hey, Chris,
Speaker 1: do your job. And if the quarterback it's supposed to
Speaker 1: deliver the ball to you, and he does it, and
Speaker 1: you did your job. He got a coach that's gonna
Speaker 1: get in his butt. He has an oldc that's gonna
Speaker 1: get in his butt. So but but what you don't
Speaker 1: want to do is loaf half a it, you know, uh,
Speaker 1: just don't perform. And the quarterback actually does his job
Speaker 1: and throws it and you're not where you're supposed to be.
Speaker 1: Now when the film comes on, coach's gonna say, well,
Speaker 1: what the hell are you doing? Because you're supposed to
Speaker 1: have a twelve yard comeback? You're boosed to have a
Speaker 1: twelve yard curl. Both have an eighteen yard comeback. You're
Speaker 1: both have a sixteen yard dig, and why are you
Speaker 1: at eighteen yards? Why are you cutting off at nine yards?
Speaker 1: The ball was there, you weren't where you're supposed to be.
Speaker 1: Now you look bad. So no matter whether you're seven
Speaker 1: and o or oh and seven. It's a team game.
Speaker 1: But the thing about football, it's eleven guys in one
Speaker 1: on one matchups in a team. Concept. Have to win
Speaker 1: your one on one back more often than you lose it.
Speaker 1: Because again, other teams are watching this, your coaches are
Speaker 1: watching this, your general manager, as your owners, all the
Speaker 1: people are watching this stuff on TV. And if you
Speaker 1: have any pride within yourself as a man, you don't
Speaker 1: want to go out there and say, you know what,
Speaker 1: I stole a check this week. Yeah I know I
Speaker 1: didn't get the ball. Yeah I know it was frustrating,
Speaker 1: but I let this, And for me personally, I don't.
Speaker 1: I never want the other dude to ever think to
Speaker 1: go home to his boys, or his wife or his
Speaker 1: mother or his baby mother or whoever and be like, yo,
Speaker 1: that cat Jay Holly bro when we played them in Dallas,
Speaker 1: I whooped them. Hell no, when you go back to
Speaker 1: your mama, your baby, mama, your wife, your girl, your
Speaker 1: side piece your homeboys. You whoever when they say, yo,
Speaker 1: you played Jay Holly this week? How was that? Man?
Speaker 1: I know we beat them thirty eight ten, but this
Speaker 1: joker was all lope but he is good. You're never
Speaker 1: I'm never allowing you to go away from this game
Speaker 1: and say that you did anything to me outside of
Speaker 1: getting your butt whooped. And that's just the product. That's
Speaker 1: the man pride in you. Is there talk between cornerbacks
Speaker 1: and receiver like, hey, I beat you that all the time.
Speaker 1: I beat you all the time. Man, mid route man
Speaker 1: and round wow, middle route. If I get you, if
Speaker 1: I get to a lone of scrimmas got you. I
Speaker 1: got started the game. I mean we started the game.
Speaker 1: Mike Irvin say, coach, we need to run the ball
Speaker 1: three or four times called Mike actually wanted to head
Speaker 1: slap this guy through it. The dude for the New
Speaker 1: York Giants. I remember he was selling out. He said, coach,
Speaker 1: ya don't care if you throw it? Are you pass it?
Speaker 1: But the best we thought me run it. But best
Speaker 1: we run because I want to do something to this dude.
Speaker 1: And it was like the fourth player to drive and
Speaker 1: we heard the corn out. That's saying man, that's your
Speaker 1: legal round. He can't head slapped me like that. Mike,
Speaker 1: Girl were like, oh now we want to talk about
Speaker 1: head slapping. What what were you gonna do to me
Speaker 1: before this game started? And Mike kilt kilt him about
Speaker 1: a hundred yards about eight head slaps and blocked them
Speaker 1: to the ground a couple of times. I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you something, Fellas, I'm gonna tell you something. This is
Speaker 1: this is what I've been looking for all year, and
Speaker 1: this is what I'm gonna continue to look for. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna be upbeat. It's what guys want to
Speaker 1: fight to the end. I've been with these guys at
Speaker 1: on a losing team that's not very good. Let's see
Speaker 1: who survives to next year. Those would be your tough
Speaker 1: guys mentally and physically. Those would be the guys that
Speaker 1: should be on this team next year. Barn the guys
Speaker 1: you have to keep because there's Sarah's will so big.
Speaker 1: I remember I remember a story I don't I don't
Speaker 1: remember if it was Michael telling it about Dion or
Speaker 1: if it was Dion telling it about Michael, but he
Speaker 1: said every time that they would play each other against
Speaker 1: each other, that he would mail the check to the
Speaker 1: league the Friday before the game because he knew he
Speaker 1: was gonna get fine because he would hit. He was
Speaker 1: go ahead slap him the first player of the game,
Speaker 1: and he knew the guy was coming, so he just
Speaker 1: go ahead and mailed the check on Friday, knowing he
Speaker 1: was gonna get it on Sunday. The one thing I
Speaker 1: liked about Mike and one thing Mike knew who he
Speaker 1: was and his skill level, and Mike when he played,
Speaker 1: Mike be like, Okay, you can throw me a couple
Speaker 1: of nine routes, and that's the deep ball in my
Speaker 1: correct Jess. You can throw me a couple of them,
Speaker 1: but please don't do it early because I cannot out
Speaker 1: run this too. Mike led them crossing routes, them slants,
Speaker 1: everything that was quick where he can body on Prime
Speaker 1: because Prime was big too. And so they got into it,
Speaker 1: and they knew each other from college, and they talked,
Speaker 1: noised each other, not much because you know, and Prime
Speaker 1: is a different dude on the field. He don't cuss nothing.
Speaker 1: He like Jess, he don't cuss, but he could talk
Speaker 1: to you. Now. He talked to you real nice, like
Speaker 1: dog dog. You just caught a fire yard out. I
Speaker 1: let you catch that because I'm gonna hurt your quarterback
Speaker 1: later the game. He'd be talking to you. Hey, man,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I backed off you this time.
Speaker 1: You cannot run by me. So don't even think that
Speaker 1: I'm backing off you because you think you can run
Speaker 1: by me. It ain't happening, he said. He thought, one, dude,
Speaker 1: I can't slip and fall. Get up and catch you.
Speaker 1: If it's some Nord's being talked, No, Shannon, it is
Speaker 1: man between the wide receivers and jess Man. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you ever and we've talked about this before, bro,
Speaker 1: but when you know you can be the dude, that's
Speaker 1: the only time you hear Michael. When mikel Irvan know
Speaker 1: he can be the dude, that's the only time you
Speaker 1: hear him. Just get out the Troy repeatedly, he don't
Speaker 1: know him to go to Troy and talk to him.
Speaker 1: He would talk through acts and other means. He would
Speaker 1: call up to the he would get actually get on
Speaker 1: the phone to call up to the North nor of
Speaker 1: would call down to Troy. And that's how he would
Speaker 1: do it, you know, in a roundabout way and he
Speaker 1: would be throwing daggers at Troy. He'd be sitting on
Speaker 1: the bench and looking at Troy, cussing out acts. You know,
Speaker 1: if he had a guy, he just knew he should dominate. Oh, fellas, tomorrow,
Speaker 1: it's Thursday. We're almost bringing it home. We got to
Speaker 1: talk about our offense, right, I hope we got to
Speaker 1: talk about it. Their offense, their offense. Let's do it tomorrow,
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