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Yes, we should 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:50.040 have covered until this morning. 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:51.640 Yeah, then where was Sager. 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:55.120 Saga do the twelve thirty You could have the red 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:57.320 light on from twelve thirty to seven thirty and then 0:00:57.360 --> 0:00:57.920 we'll pick up. 0:00:57.960 --> 0:01:00.680 That would be a disaster for his woops. Yes, it 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:02.639 would so we couldn't. We couldn't have the. 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:04.119 Ring would be screaming for weeks. 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:07.039 Would not be good? Would not be good. Crystal is 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:09.240 with us as well. Ryan is going to run after 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:11.640 the first couple of blocks, so we're lucky. 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:13.199 What about my whoop score? Okay? 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:16.080 Does anyone care? Do you anyone care about what my 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:17.440 fitbit is telling me this morning? 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:18.200 That's what I want to. 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:23.160 Yeah, it's not quite the same, Crystal. Well, if you 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:25.800 want to get even more of this lively banter, sign 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:29.160 up for the newsletter at breakingpoints dot com. It's a 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:31.920 wonderful place. Breaking Points dot com is where you can 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:34.840 get access to the free newsletter and you can sign 0:01:34.920 --> 0:01:38.240 up for a premium subscription as well. The newsletter, of course, 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:40.680 is where you can just read details that we're going 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:42.319 through every show, see some of the links that we're 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:46.480 working off of. 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And we've 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:16.079 got not only election results, we've got stuff happening in Iran. 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:20.519 We are now bailing out the Japanese Yen, so that's interesting, 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:23.079 all because of again the Iran war. 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:25.240 We've got a major. 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:29.519 Epstein slash media slash banking scandal that is being broken 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:30.920 open by Ron Wyden. 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:32.639 We've got more. 0:02:32.440 --> 0:02:37.280 Developments in the Max Miller saga. Bernie Moreno, his father 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:40.480 in law coming forward. We had a big Jag Tapper interview, 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:44.760 a photo of his daughter that was among the dropbox 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:45.680 files that was released. 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:46.680 So a lot to get to there. 0:02:46.720 --> 0:02:49.200 And then we haven't actually delved into this, but Trump 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:51.639 was very very mad at Janine Piro because she had 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:55.440 the audacity to drop the charges against this guy that 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:58.720 he claimed had messed up his beautiful reflecting pool. And 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:01.679 actually she's dropped a number of charges against a number 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:06.200 of people at this point. So interesting to dig into 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:07.440 that palace intrigue. 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:09.480 I suppose, Yeah, that will. 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:12.440 Be interesting because Trump and Janina Piro that is one 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:17.399 of the most beautiful, long lasting relationships. So I must 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:20.440 discuss perhaps tells a little bit of what's happening inside 0:03:20.480 --> 0:03:23.079 of the White House as well. Now, chrysl and Ryan, 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:24.920 you guys were up late. I was surprised at how 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:27.200 long the stream went last night, but we didn't have 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:30.800 a lot of closure. We didn't have a lot of 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:34.800 clear information coming out actually of the big Michigan race. 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:38.640 Hailey Stevens and Abdul l sayed, it's still really close, 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:41.880 with Abdul in first place for now, looking like that's 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:44.680 going to hold steady. But let's start by going over 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:46.840 to Michigan here and looking at some of the results 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:49.600 as you guys were covering it last night, tell us 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:53.240 how the night was transpiring a little bit closer than 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:53.880 people expected. 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:57.320 It looks like, oh yeah, so maybe we should start 0:03:57.360 --> 0:04:00.360 with a one C, which shows you what the holes 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:02.840 were leading into last night. 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:04.760 They were across the board. 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:07.680 I mean, we were getting Abdul plus nineteen plus seventeen 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:10.680 plus sixteen all in double digits with a lead for him, 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:13.920 and so it seemed like all the momentum was on 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:16.440 his side, like he really opened up a gap. And 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:20.400 again this was every single polster going back. 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:21.839 You know what do we have there? 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:24.600 Like ten different poles that all had him with this 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:27.400 double digit lead. And that's the way the night started off. 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:30.480 It looked like it was on trend for this kind 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:33.520 of a blowout win for him. And then a batch 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:37.960 of results came in from the Detroit area and these 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:41.800 were the absentee votes where Hayley Stevens was really racking 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:44.440 up large percentages. And Ryan can talk a little bit 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:46.919 more about why that is. Those are basically the people 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:49.839 who had just gotten the ads and hadn't seen any 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:52.039 of the other pushback against them or been you know, 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:54.880 had a chance to be contacted by Abdul's campaign, et cetera. 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:57.400 So she was racking up big margins there, and all 0:04:57.440 --> 0:05:00.280 of a sudden, it went from Abdul having this gigiantic 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:04.520 lead to the race being effectively tied. And from there 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:07.280 on we were just waiting to see what else would 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:10.320 come in from Wayne County. They were very, very very 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:13.160 slow in counting, but now we can put a one 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:16.839 up on the screen. NBC News has called it Abdul 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:20.560 l Sayad will be the Democratic nominee for the Senate 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:24.880 in Michigan. He has you know, he is declared victory. 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:28.880 Mallory McMorrow, who said she would go ahead and endorse 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:33.240 whoever ended up getting the nomination, she has now endorsed 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:35.279 Abdul and is backing him. 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:38.320 So, uh so, can we definitely not on that just 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:40.520 for a second. That shows Mallary McMorrow got four percent 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:42.279 of the vote. The NBC News said this, which is 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:42.840 all this. 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:46.640 Race kind of significant because it's a larger margin than 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:48.039 the difference between them. 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:49.840 Now the confounding factors. 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:52.279 I don't actually know who that benefits, because it seemed 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:55.680 like her supporters were fairly evenly split between McMorrow and 0:05:56.400 --> 0:06:00.680 between Steven's and Abdullah Sayad. But in any case, she 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:02.800 decided to keep her name on the ballot, and that 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:05.280 may have ended up being a significant factor in the 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:06.240 outcome of this race. 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:09.680 Right Yeah, And the absentee ballots, you know, those are 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:12.120 heavily kind of nursing homes and senior centers, and it's 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:16.359 a it's a place where the organized Democratic establishment, to 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:19.080 its credit, still has the capacity to kind of to 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:23.880 galvanize that that vote and that went overwhelmingly for Stevens, 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:27.120 where whereas the rest of it, as you said, kind 0:06:27.160 --> 0:06:29.320 of came out kind of a kind of a wash. 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:32.240 You know, close enough that Abdullahl size is likely. New 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:34.000 York Times is saying it's still too close to call. 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:36.440 And I wonder if some of that is the kind 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:38.720 of wishful thinking on the part of the editors versus 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:42.279 kind of overruling the data folks who are like, yeah, well, 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:44.080 it's kind of it's kind of over guys. 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:46.040 And if you look at the New York Times, if 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:48.760 you look at their analysis, you know, they have all 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:51.040 their lego how is so and so doing on their 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:53.520 benchmarks and what's likely to happen here? And I think 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:57.440 that their analysis is it is very likely that Abdullah 0:06:57.520 --> 0:06:59.480 side will be the nominee over you know, if you 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:01.080 look at the bet apps, they all have them at 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:04.040 ninety nine percent. So I think there's not a whole 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:07.200 lot of vote left out there, and it's it doesn't 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:10.120 look like there's enough that would be pro Haley for 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:12.960 her to make up the gap of roughly one point 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:14.239 five percentage points here. 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:16.720 No, it seems like the Polsters need to go back 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:19.320 to the land lines because it does seem like they 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:22.520 missed the older vote in. 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:24.120 A significant way. 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:26.960 Maybe they've gone, you know, too far into the kind 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:30.559 of world of texting and online polls. There's still people 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:35.120 answering those landlines. Although you know, if you have a 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:38.000 landline at this point, it's it's just ringing constantly with 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:42.760 spam calls. So, you know, I do sympathize with the polsters, 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:45.200 but this was this is a you know, this was 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:48.400 a wild miss. You missed by more than ten points. 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:50.560 I was just gonna say, the Real Clear Politics average 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:54.760 had all said a ten point two. That's the average 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:58.080 of the polls so recent polls. That RCP average had 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:02.400 them up fourteen, fifteen, ten, sixteen, and thirteen. Now, the 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:05.840 last couple of polls were from the last week of July. 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:09.160 I suppose it's possible there was Stephen surge as a 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:11.840 bunch of money came in in the waiting days of 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:15.240 the race. Is that possibly explained some of the polling gap. 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:17.720 I don't know. I mean ten points is a huge miss. 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:21.240 Yeah, I think it's more that the universe. To Ryan's point, 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:25.480 that they were polling, they just they just underestimated the 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:29.080 number of older voters who would be in the electorate. 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:32.040 That's some of the at least early analysis I'm seeing here, 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:34.560 and look, to be fair to them, it's difficult to know, 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:37.720 you know, Zorn and New York completely changed that or electorate, 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:39.800 and there's way more young people than you would expect. 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:42.840 It's hard to know who's going to turn out in 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:46.360 a general election, let alone in a primary election. But 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:49.480 for every single one of them to have had this 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:55.000 gigantic double digit miss is quite extraordinary, you know, I'm wondering. 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:57.520 I'm just thinking about from Look, a win is a win. 0:08:57.720 --> 0:08:59.360 So the left is looking at that, all right, our 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:03.480 guys getting through, you know, and against extraordinary odds. Right, 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:06.360 we have to sort of the bar got reset when 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:08.199 we started seeing all these polls. It's like, oh, how 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:10.480 big is the margin going to be? But we have 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:13.000 to keep in mind he was up against what at 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:16.560 eleven to one spending deficit, sixty two million dollars came 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:20.480 in from Hailey Stevens like they really put everything they 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:23.000 could behind her. She ran all the ads making it 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:25.440 look like she was endorsed by Obama, which I think, 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:27.480 you know, was a clever strategy and I think had 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:31.360 certainly had a significant impact they went with, you know, 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:34.000 from the the I E. Side, They went with all 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:36.679 these ads claiming that Abdul hates Michelle Obama and is 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:40.240 a secret sexist. I think that also damaged to him 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:47.240 with abortions, the electoral singing your tune there, and then 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:49.280 the endorsements that came in for her. You know, you 0:09:49.320 --> 0:09:52.600 had Jim Clyburn come up, you had Gretchen Whitmer, who 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:54.920 had said previously and Gary Peters, who had said previously, 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:56.599 we're not going to get involved in this race, and 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:58.520 when they saw what direction it was going is actually, 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:00.520 we are going to get involved in this race. And 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:04.079 Whitmer is a very popular figure, especially with Democrats in 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:07.360 the state of Michigan. So they pulled out all of 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:10.920 the stops here, from the money, the endorsements, the ads, 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:14.040 the you know, the sort of cynical direction, the weaponization 0:10:14.160 --> 0:10:17.040 of identity, and the sowing of discord between you know, 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:20.280 Arabs and Muslims in the Detroit area. Like they did 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:23.680 it all, and they still came up short. So I 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:26.679 think it is even though it's much narrower than expected, 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:30.559 I think it's an extraordinary victory for the left, the 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:34.240 ascendant left, and now Ryan we get to see if 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:38.360 our theory of electability in a swing state, if that's correct. 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:41.360 And I have to tell you after seeing I'm curious 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:45.000 for you guys. Take Haley outperformed in the sort of 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:47.400 more white rural parts of the state in spite of 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:49.560 the fact that she really had no campaign to speak 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:54.199 of outside of the Detroit area. She just the ads 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:58.080 spend alone. And you know, I think, frankly some discomfort 0:10:58.160 --> 0:11:01.680 with musclim man named Abdullah's I think that's part of 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:04.240 what was missed in the polls as well. And so 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:07.680 it does make me concerned that this general election, even 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:10.640 as it's a very strong Democratic year, is going to 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:13.560 be tough for Abdul. It is definitely going to be 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:17.160 a dog fight and is very uncertain what will ultimately 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:17.720 happen there. 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:19.280 Yeah, it's going to be tough. 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:21.840 And on the Wayne County vote, we were talking last 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:24.480 night about how in twenty twenty four, I think there 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:27.120 were about one hundred and ninety five thousand votes in 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:30.600 the Democratic primary in twenty twenty four in Wayne County 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:32.840 and we were kind of gaming out what it would 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:35.880 look like if you saw a twenty five percent increase 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:38.960 this time around, and you know what the margins would 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:41.199 look like, as you Jumping twenty five percent in two 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:42.880 years is a pretty huge number. 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:44.079 It's rare to see. 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:46.439 So far, we're looking at I think two hundred and 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:50.719 ninety thousand votes already and well there could be you know, 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:54.840 thousands more, few thousand more still counted. So you're looking 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:58.160 at a fifty percent increase in turnout in Wayne County 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:03.120 from twenty twenty four to twenty twenty six. So that's 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:05.920 going to be key for Abdullah side to go in 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:11.880 and persuade those people who voted narrowly for Hailey Stevens 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:15.600 or we're looking at overall five point win for Stevens 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:16.560 in Wayne County. 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:19.080 He's going to need all of those Hailey Stevens people 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:20.160 to come his way. 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:24.160 And I don't think he can count much on Gretchen Whitmer. 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:27.839 Maybe Gary Peters because he wants he actually wants to 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:30.920 see Democrats win the Senate, but the rest of the 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:34.880 party establishment. I don't think outside and the left should 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:37.240 rely on that. I think it should be as nice 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:40.199 as they can be, as conciliatory, like welcome them in 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:43.240 and like it makes space for them, but absolutely do 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:46.840 not count on them, because just as you and I 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:50.000 are talking about this being a test case for the 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:54.880 entire premise that populism, you know, from the left can 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:58.040 win in swing seats, whether it's Will Lawrence, or whether 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:00.520 it's out of California or Maine or here, this being 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:04.920 the test case, the powers that be recognize that as well, 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:08.840 and so for them it is it is a real 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:13.319 question that they won't talk about much, I think publicly, 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:17.040 but privately are weighing the question of how much do 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:20.600 we want this Senate seat versus how how much do 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:24.439 we not want to set the precedent that this populism 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:30.360 can win, versus the true reward of Wow, look, you 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:33.320 guys got what you wanted and he lost. So don't 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:35.520 ever bother us again with any of this. 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:39.720 And with an I towards twenty twenty eight exactly and 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:43.080 who you know would be able to to gain the 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:46.679 Democratic nomination for presidency. So yeah, it's a big prize 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:50.680 for them ultimately to watch Abdul, you know, quietly, watch 0:13:50.679 --> 0:13:51.560 ab Duel go down. 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:54.320 That would please them a lot, especially if. 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:57.480 The if the polling starts to show Rogers running away 0:13:57.520 --> 0:13:59.640 with it before Labor Day, and then maybe a little 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:03.080 bit into the fall, that'll be I would imagine Ryan 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:06.719 and Crystal that's going to be a sign to Democrats 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:10.480 in Washington. So whether they go all in or they're 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:13.400 kind of tapid, right. 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:17.960 Although yes, it's going to be very difficult dance for 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:20.440 them because they have to you know, publicly, they have 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:24.080 to publicly want it. But also when Washington people have privately, 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:27.560 Democrats privately have been saying, you know, it's not obvious 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:31.040 that holding Congress going into the twenty twenty eight election 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:34.520 is better for Democrats. Like that might sound strange to 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:36.600 people outside of Washington who were like, wait a minute, 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:39.640 I thought you're a political party and you want more 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:40.840 votes and you want more power. 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:43.520 But no, that's not all. That's not how all Democrats think. 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:47.600 There's an argument that that's made in Democratic elite circles 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:51.760 that if you have Congress, then even though you don't 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:57.040 have much ability to restrain Trump, you then to the 0:14:57.120 --> 0:15:00.520 voters look partly responsible for whatever is happening being in 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:03.440 the world and they and the best place for Democrats, 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:06.600 as far as the establishment is concerned, has always been 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:10.640 completely out of power and blameless and without any responsibility 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:13.240 for anything, so that they can then kind of just 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:18.600 run against whatever screw ups uh uh and corruption the 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:22.720 Republican whoever that may be, is engaged in. So so 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:27.960 it also fits into that strategy. Just say, we we tried, 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:30.520 we did everything, we did everything we could for Abdullah's side, 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:32.640 but he just fell short. So the so my point 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:35.720 is you rather than cry about that, you have he 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:38.480 has to lock in, and so does everybody who did 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:42.040 everything to get him over the hump here. They have 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:43.920 to lock in from now to November. 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:44.560 Uh. 0:15:44.840 --> 0:15:48.480 The work to be done in Detroit is immense, and 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:50.400 the work to be done in the royal and suburban 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:53.600 areas is significant as well. That it's it's there for 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:56.240 the taking, but you know nobody, nobody's going to hand 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:58.760 it to you. It's the point like they're like this, 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:01.400 this campaign and this national movement is going to have 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:02.280 to do it on its own. 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:03.560 Yeah, that's right. 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:05.760 Let's go ahead, actually and take a listen to Abdel 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:09.400 gave a speech last night before the race had been called, 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:14.359 when you know by anyone, but already striking that conciliatory 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:17.040 tone with Democrats saying we all have to come together 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:20.000 to defeat Mike Rogers. Let's go ahead and take a 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:20.520 listen to that. 0:16:21.320 --> 0:16:25.920 And however we might feel about the campaign we've just 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:29.600 come through, I want you to understand that it pales 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:36.040 in comparison to the cynicism, in comparison to the corporatism, 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:39.400 in comparison to the lies. 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:43.720 Like Mike Rogers and Donald Trump are going to tell, 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:49.280 there is so much more that unites us. However much 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:52.840 we might disagree with our Democratic opponent, there is so 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:56.000 much more that unites us than divides us. 0:16:56.280 --> 0:16:57.000 And so to. 0:16:57.040 --> 0:17:02.320 All of our supporters here tonight, watching on TV tomorrow, 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:04.280 we begin to mend fences. 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:09.440 Whatever happens tonight, we have. 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:14.439 A responsibility to assure that we unite, to make sure 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:18.520 that Mike Rogers never sees the inside of the US Senate. 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:22.560 And you know, in terms of Mike Rogers, he's got 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:24.719 a tall hill to climb here too, because he's got 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:26.399 a man named Donald Trump in the White House and 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:29.560 he's going to have to answer for every insane, stupid, 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:33.840 destructive thing that that man does between now and November. 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:38.840 In a very dismal climate both politically for Republicans economically 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:42.240 in terms of the level of pessimism, the Iran war 0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:45.359 obviously no end in sight here gas price is still 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:50.880 very high, so it's a brutal climate for him and Democrats, 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:55.760 you know, outside of the elected establishment and the elite 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:59.280 tastemakers and the party. Outside of that circle, they are highly, 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:03.720 highly elite energized to take the Senate and send a 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:08.520 message to Republicans into the country that the Trump administration 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:11.520 is unacceptable and that there is you know, a wave 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:14.359 building to shift power in the other direction. 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:17.439 And let's keep going to the down ballot races because 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:20.879 Will Lawrence is an example of some of that energy. 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:23.439 We can put a two on the screen and Crystal 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:26.000 and Ryan explain to us, you were watching these results 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:27.879 come in last night as well, explain to us what 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:31.000 this means in the kind of broader constellation of DSA 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:33.880 style wins that we've seen. Obviously, we're going to get 0:18:33.880 --> 0:18:36.200 into the Corey Bush lost last night, So kind of 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:38.199 a mixed bag, but this is a big one. 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:39.480 Yeah. 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:42.480 Matt Masden there that you see finishing third, he had 0:18:42.480 --> 0:18:44.639 millions of dollars spent on behalf of him. 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:45.040 He was. 0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:48.680 He's a candidate of that what's it called the bridge, 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:51.320 like the Liz Smith operation, the same one that did 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:55.320 Mallory McMorrow and. 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:56.399 That kind of politics. 0:18:57.880 --> 0:19:00.000 Both of Will Lawrence's opponents were made in a line 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:03.959 A Democrats, like one of them Navy seal who carried 0:19:04.040 --> 0:19:07.680 the nuclear football for Obama. That's Matt and then Bridget 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:10.920 was ambassador of Ukraine, you know, who stood up to Trump. 0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:13.400 It's like you couldn't kind of do better if you're 0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:18.440 trying to recruit house Democratic candidates for the Democratic primary base. 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:21.359 And yet Will Lawrence, co founder of Sunrise, on the 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:25.320 back of his opposition to both genocide and data centers 0:19:25.480 --> 0:19:29.960 in the district, is beating both of them fairly, fairly comfortably. 0:19:30.800 --> 0:19:35.960 And this will be another test, and it's probably useful 0:19:36.280 --> 0:19:38.720 for Abdell side to have him here because he is 0:19:38.800 --> 0:19:43.280 going to be doing everything he can to bring Michigan 0:19:43.320 --> 0:19:47.080 State University District, which is in his district, that bring 0:19:47.119 --> 0:19:50.000 those folks out to vote, but in general, to make 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:55.840 the case that populism is viable in mid Michigan. He's 0:19:55.840 --> 0:19:58.720 going to go up against Tom Barrett and incumbent Republicans. 0:19:58.720 --> 0:20:01.640 So this is not one of these DSA candidates who 0:20:02.359 --> 0:20:04.560 wins and can now go around the rest of the 0:20:04.560 --> 0:20:07.600 country just electing other DSA candidates like he has to 0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:10.880