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Speaker 1: Welcome back in to Clay and Buck. So we are

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Speaker 1: looking at what Doze is up to. And one thing

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Speaker 1: we've been telling you is that the Democrats are caught

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Speaker 1: some ways as they try to attack the efforts of Trump,

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Speaker 1: Elon Musk and their team. As they do this, they

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Speaker 1: this is stuff that should not be happening. It's not Oh,

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Speaker 1: we like it because of the following, and they don't

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Speaker 1: like it because of the following. This isn't you know,

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Speaker 1: arguing whether the tax rate should be thirty eight percent

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Speaker 1: or forty percent at the top end or whatever this is.

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Speaker 1: You shouldn't pay money to people the federal government doesn't

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Speaker 1: owe money to you. Shouldn't you know, send Medicare payments millions,

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Speaker 1: who aren't actually doing Medicare procedures, right, I mean? Or

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Speaker 1: or this is the kind of stuff where you've got

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Speaker 1: overseas scammers play. Elon's alluded to this a few times,

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Speaker 1: who are getting paid by the federal government. Do you

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Speaker 1: want Belarusian scammers to be getting millions of dollars from medicare?

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Speaker 1: I don't, does anyone. It's so straightforward, and I bring

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Speaker 1: it up because we tell you this, you know it

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Speaker 1: is true, and in fact, it is so obviously true

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Speaker 1: Obama era, or at least one of them, willing to

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Speaker 1: come forward and say, look, the truth is Democrats should

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Speaker 1: have done some of this stuff. We need to own

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Speaker 2: Play six Trump is like he is moving so fast.

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Speaker 2: They are doing a lot, not just the perception of it.

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Speaker 2: They hit the ground running in a serious way. It's

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Speaker 2: like genuinely impressive. Impressive in a dark and sinister way,

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Speaker 2: but it's nonetheless impressive. You may not like all of it,

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Speaker 2: but like in comparison how to how people felt about

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden being basically absent. I imagine for a lot

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Speaker 2: of people it's a welcome change. And honestly, some of

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Speaker 1: Have Yeah, yeah, nobody, you could do some of this.

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Speaker 1: That's two points really being near. The one is that

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Speaker 1: they're they what we're telling you is not like raw

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Speaker 1: rab put on the pomp poms for Trump, but you know,

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Speaker 3: No, everybody sees this.

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Speaker 1: And goes, oh my gosh, this is an incredible first

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Speaker 1: few weeks of action and activity from Trump. Part one,

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Speaker 1: Part two. Clay, Yeah, any political party had this issue,

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Speaker 1: if they had wanted any politician, any movement could have said,

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Speaker 1: let's stop lighting the taxpayer's money on fire. And Democrats

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Speaker 4: I saw yesterday that Democrats had a press conference to

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Speaker 4: argue that it was time for reparations to be paid,

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Speaker 4: and Buck, I am not sure that we have ever

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Speaker 4: seen a political party light itself on fire like we

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Speaker 4: It's not only that Trump is winning, it's that he's

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Speaker 4: taking issues by and large that seventy five or eighty

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Speaker 3: Just think about this in general.

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Speaker 4: Pretend that you are apolitical, who's in favor of waste

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Speaker 4: Elon Musk and Trump say, hey, you got to show

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Speaker 3: Who's in favor.

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Speaker 4: Of dudes putting on women's swimming suits and winning women's

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Speaker 4: swimming championships? Trump is just enacting a common sense pro

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Speaker 4: America policy. Who's in favor of violent criminals illegally in

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Speaker 4: the country being allowed to stay here? The legacy media

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Speaker 4: buck has lost its ability to define Trump as outside

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Speaker 3: But also I would argue.

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Speaker 4: Trump is profoundly in the mainstream, just executing a solidly

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Speaker 4: keep hammering this. I might say it every day now

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Speaker 4: because Elon Musk get gets crushed every day. Elon voted

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Speaker 4: for Biden. The idea that you're going to turn Elon

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Speaker 1: But you know what, Clay, I don't even think the

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Speaker 1: It's the equivalent of a kid in the first grade

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Speaker 1: They just don't have anything to say, they don't have

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Speaker 4: But I do think there are a lot of people

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Speaker 4: for some of you out there who have friends and

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Speaker 4: you know, you might be sitting around, I don't know

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Speaker 4: this weekend, you're kicking it with your friends and family

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Speaker 4: and somebody says, you know.

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Speaker 3: Can you believe what Elon's doing?

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Speaker 5: Say?

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Speaker 4: You know, yeah, Elon voted for Biden and didn't endorse Trump.

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Speaker 4: Total he got up and said fight, fight, fight after

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Speaker 4: he took a bullet to the year. All Elon's trying

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Speaker 4: to do is make the government more efficient. He's not

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Speaker 4: a particularly partisan figure.

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Speaker 3: You could argue that.

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Speaker 1: I think the historical record would bear this out very clearly.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Donald Trump was really a lifelong moderate New

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Speaker 1: York Democrat, when the Republican Party, I'm sorry, when the

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Speaker 1: Democrat Party went insane. He's like, Okay, to save the country,

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Speaker 1: you got to be a Republican and Vohila now you

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Speaker 1: this is a major part of the overall political narrative

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Speaker 1: that this country has gone through. I'm just going back

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Speaker 1: and what kind of fraud is being unearthed. Again, You've

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Speaker 1: the fraudulent government payments. I know, what kind of system

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Speaker 1: do we have of it? While that's going on, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot more actually that is going to be unearthed

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Speaker 1: and this is going to get It's not like this

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Speaker 1: is a one day issue.

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Speaker 3: This is a special service.

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Speaker 1: This is a Lexus Lexus Nexus special services. Heywood Talcove

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Speaker 1: CEO talking about implementing robust ID verification. This was at

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Speaker 1: DOGE Subcommittee, and he says, implementing robust ID verification in federal,

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Speaker 1: state and local could save out of the out of

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Speaker 1: the entitlement budget a trillion with a T a trillion

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Speaker 4: How much money do you calculate is wasted due to waste, fraud,

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Speaker 4: and abuse in the entitlement programs each year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: My number right now between federal, state, and local government

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Speaker 6: is you can save one trillion dollars a year by

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Speaker 6: simply putting in front end identity verification, eliminating self certification,

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Speaker 6: and monitoring the back end of the programs that are

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Speaker 1: Those three things, basic, basic analysis and security procedures of

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Speaker 1: where the money is going for entitlements in this country

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Speaker 1: could save a trillion dollars a year of false or

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Speaker 1: fraudulent payments. I think that's a trillion with a tea everybody,

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Speaker 1: no matter what's going on, that's a lot of money.

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Speaker 3: Buck.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't stop thinking after we did the show yesterday

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Speaker 4: a mind and they can't process more.

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Speaker 1: If I see, they ride bicycles around the mind because

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Speaker 1: the paper in their hands. So you can retire from

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Speaker 1: the federal government two hundred feet underground.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't believe this was all real, so I've just

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Speaker 4: been reading more and more about it. I don't And

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Speaker 4: if you missed yesterday, Ewon said, basically, we can't process

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Speaker 4: more is it ten thousand a week because all the

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Speaker 4: files are oh, ten thousand retirements a month, because all

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Speaker 4: the files are kept in a bunker two hundred some

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Speaker 4: sure Elon is looking at this because you know, every

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Speaker 4: one of you who works at a for profit corporation,

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Speaker 4: the goal basically, once your company gets to be a

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Speaker 4: but you're constantly looking for inefficiencies to chip away at

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Speaker 4: in order to make yourself more efficient. Buck, you and

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Speaker 4: I on the call yesterday with your brother Mason, who's

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Speaker 4: doing a fabulous job running Crockett Coffee. He's constantly looking

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Speaker 3: I did it at out kickback in the day. Any

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Speaker 4: Nobody's ever done this in government for hundreds of years,

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Speaker 4: so that all of our trillions of dollars that you,

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Speaker 4: saw a great quote from Steve Bannon. We're thirty six

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Speaker 4: I hear about the minds and the way you process retirements,

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Speaker 4: I can't believe that those systems would even exist.

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Speaker 1: Well, didn't they have a under the pre vious administration.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember this on the fly.

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Speaker 1: The team will fact check me because we always want

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Speaker 1: they spent forty billion dollars play on electric vehicle charging stations.

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Speaker 1: didn't build a single charging station. Yeah, it's it's almost

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Speaker 1: hard to comprehend how the government and the Democrat statists

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Speaker 1: I don't even know how you can do. Similar with

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Speaker 1: nowhere that they're building right at the high speed rail debacle.

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Speaker 3: How do they waste so much money?

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Speaker 1: Well, when you start to look, you find out you

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Speaker 1: That's how you you know, how do you run up

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Speaker 1: thirty six trillion dollars of debt? Yeah, of course there's expenses.

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Speaker 1: There's Medicare, there's Medicaid, but a lot of that shouldn't

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Speaker 1: be paid out because of the fraud. Also, because of

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Speaker 1: the policies. You don't even go to the cheapest builder.

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Speaker 4: You have to take a woman owned business, or you

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Speaker 4: Buck Elon Musk votes for Joe Biden in twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: Most ferociously focused and talented and relentless Trump Maga movement

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Speaker 1: this is that one thing you've noticed, you know, Clay,

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Speaker 1: that's crazy. Twenty five years ago. I was a freshman,

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Speaker 1: Democrats, I think got a combination of crazier and flabbier

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Speaker 1: What I mean is because they could kick you off

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: So it's like the virus, so to speak, was able

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Speaker 1: we have ever seen, most consolidated, the most able to

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Speaker 1: And at the same time as you have the weakest

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Speaker 3: Here's a question I want you guys.

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Speaker 4: I think that the party has been remade, and I

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Speaker 4: think it's important to think about it. I know many

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Speaker 4: don't know that there's a current office holder who is

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Speaker 4: charismatic enough to be that person. So think about that

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Speaker 4: second part of this. How durable is the Trump magic?

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Speaker 4: How durable is the movement that Trump has built? In

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Speaker 4: other words, how much of it transfers to whomever the

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Speaker 4: air is and how much of it is unique to

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Speaker 4: Trump's own particular brand of what I think you have

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Speaker 4: a unique political unicorn talent, how much of it transfers.

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Speaker 3: Let's pretend that JD. Vance is the guy going forward.

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Speaker 4: These are the things I think in the back of

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Speaker 4: your mind, big picture that you should be contemplating, because

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Speaker 4: one of these big things that you have to keep

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Speaker 4: in mind is as good as Trump is and as

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Speaker 4: many wins as he is stacking right now, a Democrat

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Speaker 4: with a pen at the resolute desk can wipe out

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Speaker 4: an awful lot of this greatness over four years.

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Speaker 3: We have to stack multiple terms.

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Speaker 1: So your point about whether it transfers and whether you

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Speaker 1: know and I think Trump it was interesting. We didn't

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Speaker 1: I think it was Brett Baer, is JD Vance your successor?

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Speaker 1: And he responded something along the lines of JD is

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Speaker 1: I think we have to keep that in mind, whether

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Speaker 1: the not, not for specifically, but just what happens with

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Speaker 1: the MAGA movement going forward with Trump's Republican Party. A

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Speaker 1: lot of it will be determined by how successful the

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Speaker 1: next eighteen months are. The next eighteen months is a

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Speaker 1: I think you're just going to have an incredibly robust

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Speaker 1: You know, it all depends right right now, everything looked

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Speaker 1: So but I think the case for optimism right now

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Speaker 1: is stronger for the Republican Party, for this new Republican

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Speaker 1: That's getting together in the bunker to fight an existential

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Speaker 1: similar level of consolidation among Republicans that we haven't seen

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Speaker 1: And we are joined by Secretary of State Marco Rubio.

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Speaker 1: Mister Secretary, appreciate you making the time for us. A

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Speaker 1: lot going on in the world.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: Let's jump right into it.

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Speaker 1: There's so much we want to ask you about the

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Speaker 1: start of this Trump administration. At the Domestic stuff the

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Speaker 1: executive orders has gone a tremendous amount of focus. But

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Speaker 1: the president has an ambitious foreign policy agenda that you

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Speaker 1: are the point person for. Let's just start with if

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Speaker 1: you could set the table on Russia Ukraine and the

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Speaker 1: reporting that Trump is eager to have negotiations to end

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Speaker 1: that conflict, to at least bring about a ceasefire.

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Speaker 5: Well, the great thing about working for President Trump is

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Speaker 5: there's not a lot of ambiguity. I mean, he's pretty straightforward.

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Speaker 5: And he's been campaigning and saying the war would have

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Speaker 5: be true. He said that yesterday too, tod with Putin

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Speaker 5: by the way, and and he wants it to end now.

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Speaker 5: He wants to end the war. He's not looking for

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Speaker 5: just like a pause, you know, he's looking for it

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Speaker 5: to end and uh and and then it's gonna it's

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Speaker 5: gonna be hard. Uh and it's going to have to

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Speaker 5: move in stages. You know. Maybe it starts with a

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Speaker 5: ceasefire that's not been agreed to it. I don't negotiated,

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Speaker 5: but I'm just saying that. And then you know, opening

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Speaker 5: that plays out. And by the way, I think the

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Speaker 5: only one in the world that can bring it something

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Speaker 5: like this together. But it has to be a global effort.

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Speaker 5: It's not just US, It's not just in Europe or NATO.

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Speaker 5: I mean, countries around the world are going to have

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Speaker 5: it is going to be reinvested back into Ukraine to

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Speaker 5: hard work. But yesterday was the first step in a

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Speaker 5: long journey that lies ahead. But it's this I'll reiterate

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Speaker 4: We're talking a Secondtary of State, Marco Rubio. There has

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Speaker 4: there could be conversations potentially as early as tomorrow. Is

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Speaker 5: Well, first of all, I mean we've got to work

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Speaker 5: The Vice President and I'll be meeting with Zelenski, and

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Speaker 5: So we'll have some work to do in terms of

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Speaker 5: and partners in Europe and around the world regarding this

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Speaker 5: as well. They're going to be involved in all this.

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Speaker 5: So there's still some work to do, and sort of

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Speaker 5: setting all that up to yesterday was really about confirming

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Speaker 5: that both Putin and Selensky want the war to end,

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Speaker 5: and now it's about the work of trying to figure

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Speaker 5: out how we get there.

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Speaker 4: What does that meeting with Zolensky look and feel like

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Speaker 4: from your perspective, I mean, I'm just kind of curious.

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Speaker 4: Are there tons of Ukrainian tons, meaning four or five

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Speaker 4: Ukrainian leaders alongside of them? Is it jd Vance you

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Speaker 4: and maybe heg Seth and Zolensky. What does a conversation

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Speaker 4: look like tomorrow in Munich?

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Speaker 5: Well, I know it'll be me and the Vice the

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Speaker 5: Vice president and I and I'm not sure who else.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if Pete's going to be a part

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Speaker 5: of that, or he's got a bunch of other things

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Speaker 5: he's working on. He could be. I mean, he's great,

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Speaker 5: he's doing a great job. I was just watching him

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Speaker 5: on TV here a few minutes ago. He's doing phenomenal.

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Speaker 5: And then you have on the Ukrainian side, I guess

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Speaker 5: is he'd probably be accompanied by some of his people

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Speaker 5: as well. But you know, they come in, they take

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Speaker 5: a bunch of pictures, and the press walks out, and

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Speaker 5: then we talk about these things as we've outlined, and

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Speaker 5: we'll hear their point of view. And the president talked

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Speaker 5: to Zelenski, actually talked them close to forty five minutes.

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Speaker 5: And by the way, some people say, are how much

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Speaker 5: shorter it was? The difference is with Putin you got

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Speaker 5: to have these translators and it just takes forever back

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Speaker 5: and forth. You know, as Lensky speaks a little English,

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Speaker 5: you know, they're able to talk and communicate more directly,

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Speaker 5: and it moves a lot faster. So you know, my

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Speaker 5: sense is it'll be a good meeting, It'll be a

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Speaker 5: productive meeting, will sort of restate the President's position and

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Speaker 5: view of this moving forward. We'll hear their input and

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Speaker 5: they have to be a part of it. Obviously, it's

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Speaker 5: their country, you know, So we're going to be talking

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Speaker 5: to them tomorrow. And like I said, much of the

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Speaker 5: stuff to be frank, I know a lot of people

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Speaker 5: but pretend. But let me just say, a lot of

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Speaker 5: this stuff can't happen in front of cameras and the press.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's got to be that's not the way

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Speaker 5: this stuff works. I mean, you have to do it

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Speaker 5: in these meetings and private and just work through it

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Speaker 5: until we have something to announce. That won't be tomorrow, obviously,

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Speaker 5: but we have a lot of work ahead.

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Speaker 1: We're speak to the Secretary of State Marco Rubio, and

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Speaker 1: mister Secretary, if you could address a little bit of

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Speaker 1: where you see the Trump administration on Gaza. You know,

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Speaker 1: the comments that President Trump has made on that recently,

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Speaker 1: get a lot of attention the possibility of some kind

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Speaker 1: of rebuilding effort. I know, it's very early stage. And

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Speaker 1: then if you would also just transition into what is

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Speaker 1: the Trump administration framework for the Mideast more broadly in

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Speaker 1: the next four years, What are the things that you're

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Speaker 1: trying to accomplish top of the list.

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Speaker 5: Well, those two things are related. Let's just talk about

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Speaker 5: Gaza for a moment. I mean, obviously we've seen what's

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Speaker 5: happened there. It looked like that ceasefire might fall apart,

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Speaker 5: you know at some point here because Hamas was saying

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Speaker 5: they weren't going to release the hostages that were scheduled

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Speaker 5: to be released. Now I see news reports that that's

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Speaker 5: back on, and that would be good. But ultimately, whenever

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Speaker 5: this process ends at some point, then you've got to

719
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Speaker 5: figure out, okay, what happens with Gaza. So the president,

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Speaker 5: you know, sitting around everybody, you know, all these countries

721
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Speaker 5: say how much they care about the Palestinians, but none

722
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Speaker 5: of them want to take any Palestinians, none of them

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Speaker 5: have a history of doing anything for Gaza in that matter.

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Speaker 5: And so President says, all right, then this is what

725
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Speaker 5: we're going to do. You know, we'll we'll take it on.

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Speaker 5: We'll have to move people around. It's the only plan

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Speaker 5: out there right now now. If someone has a better plan,

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Speaker 5: and we hope they do, If the Arab countries have

729
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Speaker 5: a better plan, then that's great, and they say they do,

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Speaker 5: they're going to come up with it. We're going to

731
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Speaker 5: look at it, see what it's you know, regarding and

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Speaker 5: what it does. Obviously, I can tell you that any

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Speaker 5: plan that leaves Hamas there is going to be a

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Speaker 5: problem because Israel is not going to tolerate it. We're

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Speaker 5: going to be right back where we were. So, but

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Speaker 5: we're going to give them a chance to come up

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Speaker 5: with a plan. You know, I think they're working in

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Speaker 5: good faith and not just to pay for it. By

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Speaker 5: the way, because it's not just someone's going to have

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Speaker 5: to go on the ground. I mean Hamas has guns,

741
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Speaker 5: they have weapons. Someone has to confront those guys. Who's

742
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Speaker 5: that going to be. It's not going to be American soldiers.

743
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Speaker 5: If the countries in the region can't figure that peace out,

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Speaker 5: then Israel is going to have to do it, and

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Speaker 5: then we're back to where we've been, you know. So

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Speaker 5: that doesn't solve the problem. So We're going to give

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Speaker 5: them time. I know they're getting together. I think they're

748
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Speaker 5: meeting in Saudi Arabia in a couple of weeks, and

749
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Speaker 5: then they're going to get back to us with a plan.

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Speaker 5: And it's one of the reasons why I'm traveling after

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Speaker 5: I leave Germany to the Middle East, to Saudi Arabia,

752
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Speaker 5: to the UAE and to Israel to hear from the

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Speaker 5: UAE and Saudi Arabia and our our partners. We already

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Speaker 5: met with the Egyptian We talked to the Egyptians this week.

755
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Speaker 5: We met with the Jordanians this week, and hopefully they're

756
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Speaker 5: going to have a really good plan and to present

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Speaker 5: the president. But right now, the only plan they don't

758
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Speaker 5: like it. But the only plan is the is the

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Speaker 5: Trump plan. So they've got a better plan, you know,

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Speaker 5: now's the time to present it. So we're looking forward

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Speaker 5: to that.

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Speaker 4: We're talking to Secretary of State Marco Rubio. You have

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Speaker 4: served in the Senate for a while, you are an

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Speaker 4: expert in foreign relations there. What is the difference when

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Speaker 4: you talk to foreign leaders between Joe Biden as president

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Speaker 4: and Donald Trump as president? How much different is difference

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Speaker 4: is it making and what is the impact in two

768
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Speaker 4: fields of war where we're got to cease fire right

769
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Speaker 4: now hopefully it holds in the Middle East, and another

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Speaker 4: where hopefully one day in the near future we can

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Speaker 4: get one. And how much has Trump's election changed the

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Speaker 4: calculus for foreign leaders?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, Biden and Trump not even in the

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Speaker 5: same universe, right, I mean, not even in the same universe.

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Speaker 5: I'll give you a great example. So President Trump said,

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Speaker 5: you know this hostage thing, you know where these people

777
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Speaker 5: are trickling out now they're saying they're not going to

778
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Speaker 5: do it. He says, all right, you don't do it.

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Speaker 5: That's fine. If it's not done by Saturday, then all

780
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Speaker 5: hell is going to break loose, and all of a sudden,

781
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Speaker 5: Jima says, well, we're back on the deals, back on. So,

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Speaker 5: I mean that's night and day from what we used

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Speaker 5: to see in the past. I think part of it

784
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Speaker 5: is clarity. I mean he's just very clear. Part of

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Speaker 5: it is action, he actually does things. And I think

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Speaker 5: the other point is that we have a president now

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Speaker 5: in Donald Trump, who says like, this is what I'm

788
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Speaker 5: going to do, and then he like he does it.

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Speaker 5: And you know a lot of these foreign leaders are

790
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Speaker 5: used to American diplomacy, where you sort of talk around

791
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Speaker 5: issues and you use flowery language and you say, well,

792
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Speaker 5: this is what we might do, this is what we

793
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Speaker 5: could do. Trump doesn't work that way. He kind of says,

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Speaker 5: this is what I'm going to do, and then he

795
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Speaker 5: actually does it, and then there's a shock factor at

796
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Speaker 5: this point. But I and to some degree, but ultimately

797
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Speaker 5: I think the reason why, you know, he's the only

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Speaker 5: person in the world that can end this conflict with

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Speaker 5: Ukraine and Russia, he's the only person in the world

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Speaker 5: that can serve as a catalyst for some structure in

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Speaker 5: the Middle East that prevents just endless cycles of war,

802
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Speaker 5: is because he understands the language of how to put

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Speaker 5: deals together, and that's what he's done his whole life.

804
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Speaker 5: Now he's just doing from a geopolitical perspective, and he

805
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Speaker 5: speaks very clearly, very bluntly, and then he acts. I'm

806
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Speaker 5: watching on the news right now. I remember he's They're like, oh,

807
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Speaker 5: he's not really going to do tariffs, and he's just

808
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Speaker 5: announcing reciprocal tariffs out there. So it's just an enormous

809
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Speaker 5: advantage because from a foreign policy standpoint, there's just a

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Speaker 5: lot of clarity. When I talk to my foreign counterparts,

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Speaker 5: there isn't any ambiguity. They're not wondering, well, what does

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Speaker 5: he mean or what is he really going to do? No,

813
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Speaker 5: they know what he's going to do, and it gives

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Speaker 5: this I think it actually makes foreign policy better. You know,

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Speaker 5: it makes foreign policy better when you're when you're predictable,

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Speaker 5: when they know what you're going to do, because you

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Speaker 5: said that's what you're going to do. When you when

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Speaker 5: you act differently, they countries are all acting in their

819
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Speaker 5: own national interests, try to take advantage of you. They'll

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Speaker 5: try to, you know, get ahead of you. They'll try

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Speaker 5: to work around you. You can't do that with Donald Trump.

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Speaker 5: So I would argue that probably the best job in

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Speaker 5: Washington right now is to be the Secretary of State

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Speaker 5: for Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: Mister Secretary, I know you were down in El Salvador

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Speaker 1: with President Buchalia recently, and it's a small country, but

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Speaker 1: big lessons and I think could be big implications for

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Speaker 1: Latin America and honestly for any nation state paying attention.

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Speaker 1: Can you just speak to what seems like something of

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Speaker 1: a miracle that has occurred because of good governance in

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Speaker 1: that country and what it means for our relationship, not

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Speaker 1: just with El Salvador, but you know with the region,

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Speaker 1: with Latin America.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I buu Kelly is. First of all,

835
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Speaker 5: he's a big fan and supporter of the United States

836
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Speaker 5: and always has been. The Biden people treated him very poorly,

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Speaker 5: very bad. They you know, they treated him very poorly.

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Speaker 5: They call them a dictator and an autocrat. And even

839
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Speaker 5: though the guy won like ninety percent of the votes,

840
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Speaker 5: is huge popularity. I mean, the opposition to him and

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Speaker 5: Al Savadra is like a five percent movement, you know.

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Speaker 5: And one of the things that made him popular is this.

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Speaker 5: You know, for twenty years in Al Savador, you couldn't live.

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Speaker 5: You really couldn't. I mean, if you owned this. Let's

845
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Speaker 5: say you were you had a little small stand that

846
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Speaker 5: out in a you know, on a street corner or something.

847
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Speaker 5: Every week, some young kid would come on a bicycle

848
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Speaker 5: and you'd have to pay him the protection money. And

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Speaker 5: if you didn't, then the gangs would come and you know,

850
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Speaker 5: kill your daughter or kidnap your son, or murder your

851
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Speaker 5: husband or whatever. I mean, that's what used to happen.

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Speaker 5: You couldn't walk, you couldn't be out it after six

853
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Speaker 5: pm at night, you couldn't be out in the streets

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Speaker 5: of El Salvador. So he went and he basically wrapped

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Speaker 5: up all these gang members and threw him all in

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Speaker 5: a big prison that he built by the way, in

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Speaker 5: seven months, and all of a sudden, the crime disappeared overnight.

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Speaker 5: It's a completely different country, and people love it because

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Speaker 5: they can they feel safe, and that's why he's so popular.

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Speaker 5: He doesn't have to be an autocrat. He's not because

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Speaker 5: he's popular, and so I think it's a great example.

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Speaker 5: But he's also a good friend of the United States.

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Speaker 5: He was just treated very badly, very poorly by the

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Speaker 5: previous administration. But now with President Trump, he's got an

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Speaker 5: ally and someone we can work with. And they made

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Speaker 5: very generous offers last week. I mean, they agreed that

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Speaker 5: obviously they're going to take all the MS thirteen people

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Speaker 5: in our country they're from Salivard. They're also going to

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Speaker 5: take gang members we send them like trained dot Agua

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Speaker 5: and those guns. And he also offered something which you

871
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Speaker 5: probably won't be able to do just because of our constitution,

872
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 5: but he said, look, if you've got prisoners from the

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Speaker 5: US and you want to outsource you know, the prison

874
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Speaker 5: system to us, and you want to send us some

875
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Speaker 5: really bad guys, We've got room in our drails for

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Speaker 5: them as well. So very generous offer on this part

877
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Speaker 5: of me. No one's ever offered that, so I think

878
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Speaker 5: it just shows he's a very pro American president who

879
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 5: was treated very poorly by Joe Biden's administration.

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Speaker 1: And just one more for you, mister Secretary, on Mexico.

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Speaker 1: What do we want, what can we expect? What are

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Speaker 1: the goals for this Trump administration because that's obviously a

883
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Speaker 1: critical relationship and there's a room for improvement.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so that deal. I mean that situation has broken

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Speaker 5: up into two pieces. One is tariffs and that the

886
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Speaker 5: Treasury and Commerce Secretary are going to be handling that.

887
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Speaker 5: And I think how Lutnik will be confirmed here in

888
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Speaker 5: a few minutes and when he is in the Senate

889
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Speaker 5: and hopefully he'll be taking charge of the tariff piece

890
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Speaker 5: of it. They're interrelated, but they're separate topics. And then

891
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Speaker 5: I'm working with Pambondi and Christinome on the security piece

892
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Speaker 5: of it. You know, our interest is we want to

893
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Speaker 5: stop the human trafficking and the migratory trafficking. Across the

894
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Speaker 5: US border. We want the fentanyl to stop, we want

895
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Speaker 5: the drugs to stop. We don't want these cartel people

896
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Speaker 5: coming over our border. So we're asking them to take

897
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Speaker 5: steps even more steps to stop that from happening. And

898
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Speaker 5: they are asking us to help them keep guns out

899
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Speaker 5: of the hands of these these cartels. A lot of

900
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Speaker 5: these cartels, they're finding ways to buy guns or whatever

901
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Speaker 5: in the United States and they come back the other way.

902
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Speaker 5: So we're working on a plan with them collectively, right

903
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Speaker 5: We're going to work together them on their side of

904
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Speaker 5: the border, us on our side of the border, so

905
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Speaker 5: we can take care of their you know, their gun

906
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Speaker 5: running problem, and they can help take care of the

907
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:59,720
Speaker 5: fentanyl problem and the mass migration problem and the cartel problem.

908
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Speaker 5: We're looking to Our teams are talking and hopefully we'll

909
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 5: have something positive to announce soon. And you know, got

910
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Speaker 5: a great team with Christy and Christin Noman and Pam Bondy,

911
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 5: and we were talking to Pam about it yesterday. So

912
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Speaker 5: we've got a good team, and the Mexicans have a

913
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Speaker 5: good team. So we're gonna we're gonna work on that,

914
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Speaker 5: and I think we're gonna have something positive on that

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Speaker 5: front fairly soon.

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Speaker 4: Last question for you, Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, how

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Speaker 4: awesome was it watching your son score for the Florida

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Speaker 4: Gators in a bowl game?

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Speaker 3: Much less serious?

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Speaker 4: You got a lot of serious things going on in

921
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Speaker 4: your life, but that had to be pretty incredible as

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Speaker 4: a dad.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, of course it is. Now I'm happy. You know,

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Speaker 5: the best part about that for me, it wasn't the score.

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Speaker 5: I mean, the score is great. He had other carries

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Speaker 5: he had and let me tell you something. What happened

927
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Speaker 5: was that they had this big guy des Watson in there,

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Speaker 5: and they'd run him a couple of plays earlier, and

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Speaker 5: my son said, I know that we get to the

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Speaker 5: one yard line, they're going to put that guy in

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Speaker 5: to run it over the goal line to give him

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Speaker 5: his go away present. So he said, if he saw

933
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Speaker 5: that open, and he hit that hole so hard, he

934
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Speaker 5: knew he had to score it because gotten down to

935
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Speaker 5: the one or two, he wasn't going to get the ball.

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Speaker 5: But my favorite part, honestly, was not the score. My

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Speaker 5: favorite part was the way his teammates reacted to see

938
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Speaker 5: the entire bench come off, and I saw the flags fly,

939
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Speaker 5: and I was worried. You know he had spiked the bomb,

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Speaker 5: like oh damn, you know it's gonna but they called

941
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Speaker 5: it on the entire Florida bench. The way his teammates reacted,

942
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Speaker 5: it shows me that the kid is a good teammate.

943
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Speaker 5: He works already, has the respect and love of his teammates.

944
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Speaker 5: And that tells you. I mean, that makes you proud.

945
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Speaker 5: That's what I was the proudest stuff. To be honest

946
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Speaker 5: with you, that was where I was proud of them.

947
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Speaker 3: Well, that's a proud dad moment.

948
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Speaker 4: I know you're out there busting your ass for the

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Speaker 4: to be a dad and get to celebrate some of

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Speaker 4: those things. We appreciate you making the time be safe

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Speaker 7: News and politics, but also a little comic relief.

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Speaker 3: Clay Travis at buck Sexton.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's remarkable, but but somehow the libs are

982
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Speaker 1: not happy with Elon finding all this fraud waste center

983
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Speaker 1: and abuse of our finances as a country via Doge

984
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Speaker 1: and CNN's Paul Bagala still doing his thing all these years.

985
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Speaker 1: CNN's Paul Begala is I think speaking for the Democrat

986
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Speaker 1: mentality pretty well here when he's just crying and whining

987
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Speaker 1: and has to talk about big balls again. Play fourteen, who.

988
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Speaker 8: Then hell voted for mister Musk?

989
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Speaker 3: Who the hell voted for?

990
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Speaker 8: Excuse the phrase, A guy who calls himself big balls.

991
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 8: A nineteen year old kid going in there and trying

992
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Speaker 8: to fire cancer researchers and scientists and teachers and agricultural specialists.

993
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Speaker 3: It's appalling.

994
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Speaker 8: And I say again it is mister Trump's voters who

995
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Speaker 8: are far more dependent on government than the Democratic voters.

996
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Speaker 8: The ten states who were like most, for example, on

997
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Speaker 8: education funding for their schools federal funding, All ten voted

998
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Speaker 8: for mister Trump.

999
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, would put that aside for a second, because somehow

1000
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: it is the Democrats that are so upset about the

1001
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,439
Speaker 1: gravy train ending, but it's Republicans that need the gravy training.

1002
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,720
Speaker 1: It's nonsense. Department of Education doesn't fund state level schools

1003
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 1: if they get some grants it's going to be a

1004
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 1: something that could be made up for I think relatively easily.

1005
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,280
Speaker 1: I mean, that's put that aside for a moment. Clay,

1006
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: the Elon wasn't elected, so why is he doing what

1007
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 1: he's doing. A lot of people in the government aren't elected.

1008
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 1: There's a lot there are people.

1009
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Speaker 3: Who are appointed.

1010
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: They're people who just have jobs, right there. A lot

1011
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: of people have a lot of power without being elected.

1012
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 1: The most powerful elected official has brought in somebody who

1013
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: isn't doing anything on his own. He is merely assisting

1014
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: and advising the top of the executive branch. Like this

1015
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 1: isn't that hard? Why don't libs No one's saying Elon's

1016
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: the president and he's not acting as the president. But

1017
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: they're just crying about it.

1018
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 4: They don't know what to do. I think there's just

1019
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 4: a panic. Think about what they're simultaneously arguing.

1020
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Speaker 3: Buck.

1021
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 4: They are saying that Trump is a dictator, which is

1022
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 4: the argument they've been making since he came down the

1023
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 4: escal in twenty fifteen, and that he is going to

1024
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 4: destroy democracy in America. That is argument one. Simultaneously, now

1025
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 4: they have pivoted to Trump's not actually the president. Elon

1026
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 4: is so they are both arguing that Trump is a

1027
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,760
Speaker 4: unique threat to democracy, the likes of which our country

1028
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 4: has never seen. And also Trump is so lacking in

1029
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 4: power that an unelected official is actually acting as president

1030
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 4: of the United States.

1031
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Speaker 3: Which is it like they.

1032
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Speaker 4: Can't even figure out what their doomsday scenario is and

1033
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:38,919
Speaker 4: both can't be true right now, I would point out

1034
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 4: that the connecting tissue here for both of them is

1035
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 4: something that doesn't make sense, which is and I saw

1036
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Speaker 4: a bunch of people pick this up after we talked

1037
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 4: about it last week. Suddenly it was everywhere. No one

1038
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 4: has ever shrunk the size of government while being a dictator, right,

1039
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Speaker 4: The whole purpose of dictatorial powers is you grab more

1040
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 4: of power, the government expands, your military grows. Like no

1041
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 4: one is like, hey, you know the best thing we

1042
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:10,240
Speaker 4: can do decrease the amount of government size and actually

1043
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 4: be more efficient.

1044
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Speaker 3: Nobody does that as part to be a dictator.

1045
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: There was a moment where they were hoping to argue

1046
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Speaker 1: that Trump was a dictator during COVID, and and then

1047
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: it just it faded because he allowed a lot of decisions.

1048
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Speaker 1: I'm talking early COVID, you know, twenty twenty COVID. He

1049
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 1: allowed a lot of decisions to just be determined by

1050
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 1: the states, and so the he's a dictator, it's it's

1051
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: similar to what we're seeing now. He's doing the opposite

1052
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 1: of dictator stuff. This is the opposite of what somebody

1053
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 1: does when they are trying to enforce their will against

1054
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 1: your will via state mechanism. They don't fire government employees.

1055
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Speaker 1: You know what, here's a simple, a simple way to.

1056
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Speaker 3: Go through this.

1057
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Speaker 1: Do you think when the Soviet Union's heyday were there

1058
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:55,240
Speaker 1: are a lot of KGB and you know, secret police

1059
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 1: officials are very few in East Germany in the Stazi

1060
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Speaker 1: were there are a lot of secret police and informers

1061
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: or very few. I mean, you know, just just to

1062
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Speaker 1: put it in, by the way, there were one hundred

1063
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Speaker 1: there were over one hundred thousand, I believe secret informers

1064
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Speaker 1: that they that they had.

1065
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Speaker 3: Are you a little bit jealous? Are you a little

1066
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Speaker 3: bit jealous?

1067
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Speaker 4: Like sometimes you look back at history and think, that

1068
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Speaker 4: would have been a pretty cool time to live. As

1069
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Speaker 4: a guy who worked in the CIA in the pre

1070
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Speaker 4: Cold War Berlin Wall coming down had to be an

1071
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 4: unbelievable time to be in spycraft. That was really what

1072
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 4: I mean, the Cia was really meant for the Cold War.

1073
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Speaker 4: It was built for the Cold War. Unfortunately, still uses

1074
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Speaker 4: some of that same mentality and technology. You know in

1075
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Speaker 4: the intelligence community.

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Speaker 1: If you have not seen the movie Clay, have you

1077
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Speaker 1: seen Das Leben Derandrin The Lives of Others?

1078
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Speaker 3: No, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I've never even heard of it, Dude, You and Laura,

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you. I am telling you. I know you're

1081
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Speaker 1: gonna say, buck. It's a German language movie with subtitles Hey,

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Speaker 1: the Lives of Others?

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Speaker 3: It is you remember, you.

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Speaker 4: Know you're talking to here, mister German cinema. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I remember I took Russian cinema classes. I took German.

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Speaker 4: Said I what you were talking about?

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Speaker 1: Your German rock star doppelganger, Doss Travisa.

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Speaker 3: Yeahs boot guy. I bet he plays a mean flute

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Speaker 3: as well.

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Speaker 1: He shirtless with tattoos. He's played a flute up there.

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Speaker 1: Whatever that guy's name is from, like the German American

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Speaker 1: idol that looks just.

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Speaker 3: Like you, my doppelganger.

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Speaker 4: For people who are new that someone discovered that I

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Speaker 4: had a German musician rocker doppelganger, and I spent a

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Speaker 4: lot of time looking at Clay's face, and I'll be

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Speaker 4: honest with you, I was like, Wow, Clay has like

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Speaker 4: this whole he's moonlighting as a German rock star, Like

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Speaker 4: it looks so much like him that I didn't know

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Speaker 4: what was going on.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was maybe Ai. But it's real.

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Speaker 1: The lives of others though, I am telling you are

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Speaker 1: they're just Staff says it's one of all time favorite movies, Clay.

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Speaker 1: It is a ten out of ten. It is a

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Speaker 1: great watch. It is about it's so good about the

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Speaker 1: surveillance state, about autocracy, and about the human desire for

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Speaker 1: freedom and love and creativity. It is and I think

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Speaker 1: you and Law would really enjoy it. It does have subtitles.

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Speaker 1: But also when you're watching a movie about a police

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Speaker 1: state and they're speaking in German, I'm just gonna say

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Speaker 1: this adds a little authenticity. You hear the German and

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Speaker 1: you're like, oh, oh man, that sounds pretty intense. So

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Speaker 1: it's a really really good movie that you should add,

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Speaker 1: like for a movie night with you guys, if you

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Speaker 1: get you know, snowed in sometime top of the list.

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Speaker 1: You know what we're doing tonight. Cobra Kai Season six,

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Speaker 1: final five episodes. The Whole Travis Family is locked and

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Speaker 1: Loaded tonight to watch all five. So that is on

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Speaker 1: the calendar watching KI.

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Speaker 3: You're doing the whole They're doing the whole thing.

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Speaker 4: Well the last five episodes, so it's probably like two

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Speaker 4: and a half hours, Like that's what I mean.

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Speaker 3: But you're doing five episodes, right, Oh yeah yeah, fine.

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Speaker 4: Boom boom boom, Whole Travis Family. All three boys were watching.

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Speaker 3: We love it.

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Speaker 4: By the way, Senator Ron Johnson in Wisconsin, our budd's

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Speaker 4: supposed to join us. He texted he is locked and loaded.

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Speaker 4: They are swear in RFK Junior. We will get him rescheduled.

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Speaker 4: A lot of these guys and gals that we have

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Speaker 4: on the show, I said this yesterday. They have the

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Speaker 4: schedule and then everything is moving so rapidly suddenly in

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Speaker 4: DC that they are running into conflict. So we will

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Speaker 4: get people on. Sometimes we'll say, Hey, this guy or

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Speaker 4: this gal is going to be a guest, and then

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Speaker 4: something happens. Just FYI will get Senator Ron Johnson on

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Speaker 4: either tomorrow for Valentine's Day Valentine's Day Eve. By the way,

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Speaker 4: for anybody out there that has not been paying attention

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Speaker 4: to the calendar and doesn't want to walk into a

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Speaker 4: buzz saw tomorrow when you happen to recognize, oh, it's

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Speaker 4: Valentine's Day. Buck, You're gonna find this out as soon

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Speaker 4: as you have a kid, which is going to be

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Speaker 4: in a couple of months. You haven't even thought about

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Speaker 4: this yet. You're not just responsible for Mother's Day for

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Speaker 4: your own mom. All of a sudden, you now are

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Speaker 4: double Mother's Day. And this kid is not going to

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Speaker 4: be responsible for his own Mother's Day till like twelve

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Speaker 4: or thirteen, and it is go time, and it is

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Speaker 4: I didn't know what I was walking into with this.

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Speaker 3: I didn't just didn't think about it.

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Speaker 4: You've got your own mom, and now you've got your wife,

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Speaker 4: and the kids are too young, they're not they're not

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Speaker 4: responsible for themselves. Yet you have to now cover Mother's Day.

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Speaker 4: And Mother's Day is a lot more important than Father's Day.

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Speaker 4: I'm just like, it's like twenty a one Father's Day

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Speaker 4: to Father's Day.

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Speaker 1: Given your self professed lack of culinary skill and total

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Speaker 1: who makes like the scrambled eggs, toast, and and bacon

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Speaker 1: on Mother's Day for for Laura in the household that has.

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Speaker 4: Never happened, so you know, she's not a very fortunate

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Speaker 4: woman in that respect. Dinner is often purchased, and uh okay,

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Speaker 4: dinner is very often purchased. Occasionally you might get out

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Speaker 4: to Dunkin Donuts for some donuts, and uh yeah, the

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Speaker 4: morning breakfast is not a staple of my repertoire. There

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Speaker 4: are a lot of things that are not staples in

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Speaker 4: my repertoire. Cookie in the morning certainly not one of them.

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Speaker 4: If you can't make it with a toaster or a microwave,

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Speaker 4: it is beyond my culinary skill.

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Speaker 3: Good to know or it does.

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Speaker 4: I can also handle things that don't need either of those,

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Speaker 4: so like meat on, like a sandwich, I can make

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Speaker 4: a killer sandwich.

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Speaker 1: And now I would just point out that for all

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Speaker 1: of you, we've given you a Friday night movie watch

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Speaker 1: if you would like, so that's very exciting. You can

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Speaker 1: always also go to Clayandbuck dot com and listen to

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Speaker 1: any of the podcasts of the Clay and Buck Show

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Speaker 1: that we put up there over the weekend. We have

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Speaker 1: all kinds of exciting stuff going on. I wanted to

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Speaker 1: just take a moment here, Clay. You know, Tulsi Gabbard

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Speaker 1: has gotten through RFK has gotten through this cut sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Here is Tulsi telling everybody just how pleased and grateful

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Speaker 1: she is to be in a position to help at

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Speaker 1: the DN.

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Speaker 3: I play it.

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Speaker 9: The American people have very little trust in the intelligence community,

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Speaker 9: largely because they've seen the weaponization and politicization of an

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Speaker 9: entity that is supposed to be purely focused on ensuring

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Speaker 9: our national security. So I look forward to being able

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Speaker 9: to help fulfill that mandate that the American people delivered

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Speaker 9: to you very clearly in this election, to refocus our

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Speaker 9: intelligence community by empowering the great patriots who have chosen

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Speaker 9: to serve our country in this way and focus on

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Speaker 9: ensuring the safety, security, and freedom of the American people.

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Speaker 1: So I'm going to put this out there, Clay, because

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Speaker 1: we know Tulsi. We're very happy for I think she's

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Speaker 1: a patriot and going to do a great job.

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Speaker 3: In this role.

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Speaker 1: Even when she just to be clear, even when she

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Speaker 1: was a Democrat, it was clear that she loved her

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Speaker 1: country and didn't hate Republicans, which was really That was

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Speaker 1: when I was like, I don't know how long she's

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Speaker 1: going to last in this Democrat party. I remember what

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Speaker 1: she was running I was like, Ah, she's a little

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Speaker 1: too patriotic.

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Speaker 3: You likes Republicans a little too much.

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Speaker 1: You know, you got to sort of hate America and

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Speaker 1: Republicans to be a really, really top tier Democrat. But

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Speaker 1: I would put this out there clay for her in particular,

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Speaker 1: I think one of the things that she could do

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Speaker 1: as D and I, she should do all she can

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Speaker 1: the d and I Director of National Intelligence. It's supposed

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Speaker 1: to be a coordinator role among the community. I would

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Speaker 1: offer to you, and I spent years in this community,

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Speaker 1: so I know, I know about how it actually functions

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Speaker 1: in some ways. I think that she should do this

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Speaker 1: until she's done all that she can, and then she

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Speaker 1: should say we should go back and cut. I think

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Speaker 1: the D and I should cease to exist as a

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Speaker 1: position and as an office. I think that the National

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Speaker 1: counter Terrorism Center NCTC should no longer like all this

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Speaker 1: stuff that was done post nine to eleven, with this

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Speaker 1: enormous infusion of cash that came in because we had failed,

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Speaker 1: so the intelligence community failed so badly and got so

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Speaker 1: much money.

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Speaker 3: The intelligence community could.

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Speaker 1: Be paired back. Dramatic, dramatic, there are here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: People go, oh, abolish, No you can't abolish. If you

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Speaker 1: you will be at the mercy of foreign intelligence adversaries

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Speaker 1: if you do not. You know, this would be like

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Speaker 1: saying it's like almost abolished police or abolish the military.

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Speaker 3: It's insane.

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Speaker 1: You do need an intelligence capacity, both counterintelligence and offensive

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Speaker 1: intelligence gathering operations.

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Speaker 3: So you need that. And you know the NSA is

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Speaker 3: vast for example, I mean.

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Speaker 1: You need this capability, but there's so much bloat, and

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Speaker 1: I would argue that the and I job itself has

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Speaker 1: become a symptom of that bloat. And NCTC there's like

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Speaker 1: seventeen intell agencies now Clay seventeen. Yeah, and they all

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Speaker 1: have again fire half the people everywhere.

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Speaker 4: Tomorrow's Valentine's Day, Buck, I said, tonight, I'm going to

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Speaker 4: be sitting around watching Cobra Kai that's the Netflix series

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Speaker 4: that follows Karate Kid. We're going to be also eating

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Speaker 4: some good Ranchers steaks.

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Speaker 5: And I know you have this.

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Speaker 3: I have been feeding my boys.

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Speaker 4: Look, I got three boys, and if you have three,

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Speaker 4: two of them are teenagers. The amount of food that

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Speaker 4: they can consume is I mean, they're like a horde

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Speaker 4: of beast when they come running through the kitchen. I

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Speaker 4: mean they are growing fast. If you have teenage boys,

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Speaker 4: you know what I'm talking about. Just voluminous amounts of food.

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Speaker 4: They love these good Rancher steaks and also buck you

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Speaker 4: love these. My ten year old, my fourth grader, every

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Speaker 4: kid loves chicken nuggets. These are amazing chicken nuggets. They

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Speaker 4: are fabulous, all very healthy, made right in the good

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Speaker 4: old USA. Comes to your house. You can get meat,

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Speaker 4: you can get seafood, you can get chicken. They have

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Speaker 4: got so many great products free from antibiotics, added hormone,

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Speaker 4: seed oils. When you order your meat and chicken, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's great.

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Speaker 1: I want to say, I was so blown away by

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Speaker 1: those chicken nugs. First all, the quality of the steaks

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Speaker 1: is the best steakhouse.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 1: The meat is at that level or better depends on

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Speaker 1: where you are and how good the steakhouses are, and

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Speaker 1: you can make it at home, and it's just it's delicious.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think I can make a better steak

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Speaker 1: now here, and Carrie agrees with me. So to my brothers,

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Speaker 1: they come over for steak night because of good Ranchers.

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Speaker 1: Then we can get anywhere here in Miami with there's

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Speaker 1: some pretty good steaks. I'll throw this out there though,

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Speaker 1: those chicken nuggets play. I had to tell the CEO

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Speaker 1: of the company, the founder of the company is a

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Speaker 1: great guy. I was like, I'm being completely serious with you.

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Speaker 1: I love chicken nuggets. It's been one of my things,

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Speaker 1: one of my weaknesses. Like these are the actual best

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Speaker 1: chicken nuggets I've ever had, no question.

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Speaker 3: It is fabulous. Buck did say that.

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Speaker 4: He was like he actually turned to me and he

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Speaker 4: was like, how old is Buck? He could be any

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Speaker 4: age between twenty seven and fifty four?

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Speaker 3: Which was did I tell you that? The CEO asked

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Speaker 3: me that. I like, you mean a couple million of

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Speaker 3: our friends found out. Yeah, Well, we were.

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Speaker 4: Sitting at dinner. He was like, I have no idea

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Speaker 4: how old he is. He could be twenty seven, he

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Speaker 4: could be fifty four. I have no earthly idea. And

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Speaker 4: and you told him you love chicken nuggets. He was like,

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Speaker 4: I think he might be sixteen. And so you are

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Speaker 4: gonna love the chicken nuggets. You're gonna love the steaks,

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Speaker 4: You're gonna love the salmon. You're gonna get hooked up

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