1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:01,280 Speaker 1: M hm. 2 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 2: H. 3 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: I have a wanted man on my show today. It 4 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: is the one and only Nick Nemeath. Nick, you were 5 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: very hard to get, but once I had my claws 6 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: in you, I wasn't giving up and I succeed it 7 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: and you're finally here. So thank you for coming on. 8 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 3: I appreciate that. I appreciate you digging your claws in. 9 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: It's nice some guys like that, so I tend to 10 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: try and if it works, I stick with it, you 11 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: know what I mean. 12 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 3: If any broke, of course, you don't fix it. 13 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: I I was thrilled to finally meet you. I'd been 14 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: talking about you no seriously, and I hate putting you 15 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 1: over because I've gotten to know you a little bit 16 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: in dealing with you with our text messages. But we've 17 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: we met Russell Con weekend for the first time because 18 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: you know, you're you're not an indie guy and. 19 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 3: You haven't been around. 20 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: You are now and we'll talk about that in a minute. 21 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: But I met you at the ECW Arena, the twenty 22 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: three hundred arena it's called, and I was thrilled to 23 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: meet you because one of the questions I always get, 24 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: and this was back when you were still in WWE. 25 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 1: If you can pick one WWE superstar to work with, 26 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: who would it be? And I always picked you because 27 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: for me, you you kind of remind me of Shane 28 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: Douglas in a way. And it's not just the good 29 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: blonde hair either, sure like you're the way you worked, 30 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: your promos, skills, like everything reminded me of a young 31 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: Shane Douglas. And I always said he doesn't need me 32 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: as a manager because you can get over on your own. 33 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: But I think it would have been fun to work 34 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: with you as a Heell team. 35 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that would have been an absolute blast, of course. 36 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 2: And first and foremost one, I'm a fan of your 37 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 2: just like you. Until we met, I was a big 38 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,399 Speaker 2: fan of yours. Thank you. You know they say don't 39 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 2: meet your heroes, you know, or or Franccene, thank you. No, 40 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 2: a huge fan. I grew up watching ECW. I'll be 41 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 2: really quick about this. We didn't have cable for the 42 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 2: longest time, so I had like a black and white 43 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 2: UHF TV and Friday nights it was an hour of VCW, 44 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 2: and Saturday nights it was two hours of ECW, but 45 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 2: it was just the same show twice. 46 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 3: But I didn't care. I watch it anyway, and that's 47 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 3: you know. 48 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 2: I've had a deep affection for ECW and that was 49 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 2: my first love. 50 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 3: Of watching wrestling every week. 51 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 2: So and I was a big fan of yours, and 52 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 2: even after meeting, I still am. Since you're recording this, 53 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 2: thank so I would have loved to have you as 54 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 2: a manager. We can still make it happen down the line. 55 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 2: Who know which would be even better? If you like 56 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 2: that Britney spearsgy Azalea videos like just two gals on 57 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 2: the town, two girls. 58 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: Hanging out on the I love that. Well, if any 59 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: promoters are listening, were available as a duo, So get 60 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: in touch with either of us and we'll make it happen. 61 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 1: So I was going over your history a little bit. 62 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: I don't really trust wiki. 63 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:29,679 Speaker 3: Too much because you shouldn't. 64 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: I don't because I realized now that. 65 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 3: FATA don't trust nobody. 66 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: No, but I never knew that fans could update the page. 67 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: That's how that works, I believe. So that's what I 68 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: was told. 69 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 3: Hear. 70 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: So I'm like reading stuff and I'm like, well, I 71 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: don't know what's real and what's not real. And you 72 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: have done a ton of interviews since you walked away 73 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: from WWE. I don't want this interview view to be 74 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: redundant in any way, like the same kind of questions. 75 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: So we're going to talk about WWE just a little 76 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: bit because there's a couple of things that I was 77 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: curious about. You started in two thousand and four through 78 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: OVW and ended up there for about nineteen years. Is 79 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: that correct. 80 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 2: That's my resume two thousand and four, WWE till present. 81 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: Yes, it's very impressive. Not many people could last that long. 82 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: I lasted six months in that company, So you know, 83 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: I'm the. 84 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: Worst, Like that's it. Well, you know, at the time, 85 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 2: it's it's all. It's the craziest stuff. It's all getting 86 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 2: not getting injured at the wrong time, knowing somebody or 87 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 2: not knowing somebody. There was a chance I was going 88 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 2: to be in the heart Throbs. Do you remember that 89 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 2: tag team? Yes, okay, so, and they were great wrestling 90 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 2: dudes who I liked, and they're jacked and they had 91 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 2: a couple of months run. 92 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 3: Their debut was like losing and I go, I go. 93 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 3: That was almost me. 94 00:04:58,560 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 2: So it's a weird and I was like mad that 95 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 2: I was in a cheerleading group. But then somehow it's 96 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 2: the craziest amount of things. It has nothing to do 97 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 2: with like being better than someone. Sometimes it does, but 98 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 2: it's just like the timing and weirdness of it. Nineteen 99 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 2: years is like we were told Lancestorm was the teacher 100 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 2: in OBW when I started, and he goes, mathematically, if 101 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 2: the average is two point seven years of television time, 102 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 2: and it goes from some people having a couple months 103 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 2: and an undertaker having seventy five years, and it's like, 104 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 2: somewhere in the middle is like two and a half years, 105 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 2: So make your money and get ready for the independent scene. 106 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 2: And I go, okay, if I can just get three 107 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 2: years here, I can make a living doing this for 108 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 2: the rest of my life. 109 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 3: It'd be great. And somehow it just kept adapting in staying. 110 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: But in a sense, that's a great way to look 111 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 1: at it, because your expectations are kind of low. LA's 112 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:49,679 Speaker 1: exceeded them. 113 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, yeah, that's not in some ways, yes, 114 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 2: but also in your head, you know, you want to 115 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 2: be the world champion for twenty years and never lose 116 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 2: and have the company on your back, and but it's 117 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 2: also like, yeah, you could plan it that way. Or 118 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 2: you could be gone in a couple of months, no 119 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 2: matter how awesome you are. There's so many people that 120 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 2: I go, Wow, not only is this guy gonna take 121 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 2: my job, I would applaud him for it and go, 122 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 2: this is the guy to go with. And then six 123 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 2: months later they're gone or injured, and it just you 124 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 2: never know how. 125 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 3: It's gonna work. 126 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a crazy thing that you never know which 127 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 2: way to go with it. I was very fortunate injury wise. 128 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,559 Speaker 2: I think so many different times I was never hurt, 129 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 2: so I feel like that always came to help. 130 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: So one of the questions I had was, what is 131 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: the worst injury you've ever suffered, because, like you said, 132 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: you seem to be very consistent in your role. 133 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 2: Seemed to me, I missed like three weeks of work 134 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 2: in nineteen and a half years. 135 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: That's stitch. 136 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 3: That seemed to be real quick. 137 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 1: That's very amazing because like a lot of the guys 138 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: that I used to work with were injured constantly, and 139 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: we're working with a cast or with a splint or 140 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: you know, or we would have to go to the 141 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: merch table and we couldn't work, you know, for that 142 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: loop or something. You're you're not getting hurt. How does 143 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: one do that? Because how are you so safe in 144 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: the ring. 145 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: It's, first of all, it's not me. I'm not fighting myself. 146 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 2: I mean, be a hell of a match. 147 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 3: I'd be impressed, but it would be, but it was 148 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 3: it's I don't know. 149 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 2: I can't explain it. I I I never let it happen. 150 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 2: In a couple of times, I have a couple concussions, 151 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 2: which is which totally happens. 152 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 3: And also I was at you know. 153 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 2: Four o five, it was still not wild West Attitude era, 154 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 2: but it was. 155 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 3: I was just telling the story to my brother the 156 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 3: other day. I pulled my groin in a match. It 157 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 3: was at the time where every year after WrestleMania, I was. 158 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 2: Nervous that I was getting fired. So's a couple of 159 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 2: years in and you just you go, I pulled my groin. Wow, 160 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 2: this one really hurts. 161 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 3: What should I do? 162 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 2: And they're like, well, do you want us to tell Vince? 163 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 2: Do you are you okay with losing your spot? And 164 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 2: You're like no, no, no, I'll work through it. Or 165 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 2: so it's like it's not attitude, like like I need this, 166 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 2: you know, you know, there's no salary coming in there's 167 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 2: no you lose your spot if you get hurt. So 168 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 2: I eventually making up for it, pulled two groins because 169 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 2: I was making up for the other one. And at 170 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 2: that point I'm getting wrapped around my waist and both groins. 171 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 2: Before each match, I was getting injections into my thighs 172 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 2: and I would put and it was usually myself and 173 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 2: a kofe and I had the US title, the Intercontinental title, 174 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 2: and I would put a bag of ice inside the 175 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 2: title in between my trucks where for like the fifteen 176 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 2: minutes going out there that I'd like pull up the 177 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 2: title like this and the bag of ice would fall out. Okay, match, 178 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 2: and I was like kind of fun funny. It was 179 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 2: also like, hey, are you cool with losing your spot? 180 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 2: And at the time You're like, oh my god, I 181 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,599 Speaker 2: can't lose my spot. I'm five eleven, one hundred and 182 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 2: ninety pounds. I'm not a legacy. I don't have anyone 183 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 2: rooting for me in the meetings. No, I cannot lose 184 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 2: that spot. I'll fight through it. So so there is 185 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 2: that aspect of like I did get injuries all the time, 186 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 2: like we all do, but somehow never got that very 187 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 2: serious one where you leave. But also that affected me 188 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 2: a little bit negatively because if you have Triple Ah 189 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 2: tearing a squad and then he comes back nine months 190 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 2: later and the place erupts because we missed this guy 191 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 2: that we know. I never got to have that moment 192 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 2: once or twice, or some guys get fifteen times. 193 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 3: I got it zero times. So I feel like that 194 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 3: also hurt a little bit. So it's like a positive 195 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 3: and a negative there, I guess. 196 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well here here's my theory. When you now again, 197 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: I didn't know you when you work there. I'm getting 198 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: to know you now watching you as a fan and 199 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: seeing the way you perform and the people you perform with, 200 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: and you know who you're putting over a week after week. 201 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: You're there for nineteen years. But as I'm watching you, 202 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: I'm saying to myself, they're not using him correctly. There's 203 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: so much more because I see a star compared to 204 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: other people. 205 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 3: I'm not going to name others. 206 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: I'm not, you know, I see star and the way 207 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: that sometimes yeah, they put it beout on you here 208 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: and there, but the way that they used you, in 209 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: my opinion, I feel like there was so much more 210 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: they always could have done, but you lasted nineteen years. 211 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: Do you feel like there was some heat that you 212 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: didn't know about that they had your their thumb on you. 213 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: There might have been somebody politicking against you, like did 214 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: you were you aware of anything going Yeah, yeah, of course. 215 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 3: And it's a couple days that I said earlier. 216 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 2: One it's like, either nobody's rooting for you in the 217 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 2: meeting because you're not six or five or three hundred pounds, 218 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 2: or you're not Vince or on his favorite guy, so 219 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 2: no one's. 220 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 3: Gonna be like, oh yeah, yeah, that's a good idea 221 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 3: of Boss. I like him too. There's not one of 222 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 3: those things. 223 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 2: And then there's also the other extreme to where Pat 224 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 2: Patterson was a big fan of mine and he was more. 225 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:53,479 Speaker 3: Of a consultant. 226 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 2: So some months he's there every TV, sometimes he's talking 227 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 2: to events all the time, and then some months he's 228 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 2: just gone for a few because you know, he was 229 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:02,439 Speaker 2: a little bit older and he's enjoying his life. He's 230 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 2: on vacation stuff, but also he come help out. So 231 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 2: sometimes there's nobody there, and if nobody's got your back, 232 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 2: it's kind of tricky. Already, I'm not a legacy you know, 233 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 2: I don't have any inside information or like nobody's looking 234 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 2: out for you. 235 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 3: But also I got to a point where the. 236 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 2: Top of the top other than Vince, pulled me aside 237 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 2: and said, Pat pushes for you so much because he 238 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 2: says such great things and see such great things in 239 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 2: you that we're now actively ribbing him by having you 240 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 2: lose every week, and that's terrible. 241 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 3: That's a funny. 242 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 2: And he laughed when he said, I go, that's funny, 243 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 2: but like that's my career. That's already you know, I 244 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 2: lose eighty percent of the time, now losing ninety five 245 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 2: percent of the time, Like, come on, like, that's not 246 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 2: And they thought it was like a cool thing to 247 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 2: tell me. So again, this is anecdotal, secondhand information. It's 248 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 2: not something I witnessed personally. But people in the meetings 249 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 2: would tell you like, oh yeah, anytime this thing was 250 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,719 Speaker 2: set up, these two guys would go like, no, we 251 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 2: don't like it, and they go, okay, out of the 252 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 2: next guy, and it just I mean, it's it's showbiz. 253 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 3: That's how it works. But it's yeah, that's of course 254 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 3: part of the deal. 255 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 2: And there's a million amazing, amazing moments that I got 256 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 2: to be a part of or that were based around me, 257 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 2: that the memories will never ever go away, and. 258 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 3: The fans have them too. 259 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 2: It's just that I think that there's that extra part 260 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 2: of there's no follow up because there's no one in 261 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 2: a meeting going okay, now we're going with this guy, right, 262 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 2: They're like, nah, we're good and so the next day, 263 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 2: so it's weird to complain and you're like, hey, you 264 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 2: won like twenty titles and you were the world champion. 265 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 2: It's like, yes, that's fantastic, and I cherished that. But 266 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 2: also the next day every time I won those house 267 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 2: I lost ninety two times in a row, including the 268 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 2: day out the week I became World heavyweight champion, I 269 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 2: lost the next match like so, and that's again it's showbiz. 270 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 2: That's part of the deal. But also it just goes 271 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 2: okay if the company's not behind him, Eventually the fans 272 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 2: will not because they understand like, oh, what's the point 273 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 2: of this. But they stuck around a lot longer than 274 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 2: they should have, I think because of the work ethic 275 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 2: and everything that was put forward. 276 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: Ran Yeah, when you say longer than they should have, 277 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: I don't agree with that statement. 278 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 3: At all. 279 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: I mean, you have a huge fan beast. They admire 280 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: your work and your work ethics, so their fans period, 281 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: they're not just gonna give up on you because you lose, 282 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: because right, but you know you losing. You know what. 283 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 2: You get to a point where it was, you know, 284 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 2: I studied the metrics behind the scenes and the ratings 285 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 2: all that stuff and different things, and you go, it's 286 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 2: one thing when people my age go, oh, dog's gonna 287 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 2: put out a good match and he's gonna lose. 288 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,959 Speaker 3: And then it got to a point where ten year 289 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 3: old kids are going, we know you're losing. And you 290 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 3: get to a point wards six and eight year old 291 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 3: kids like, oh, I can't wait to see you. Like 292 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 3: so you get to. 293 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,839 Speaker 2: A point where the fans are still hanging around longer 294 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 2: than they should, but the office is telling them, don't 295 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 2: waste your time. You're gonna see a cool thing and 296 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 2: for a split second you're gonna forget that you know 297 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 2: this guy's losing. And that was my goal every time, 298 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 2: is to get one or two split second where it 299 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 2: goes oh, because that's what I was up against and 300 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 2: I thought I did that pretty damn well. 301 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 3: But every once in a while it's just there's nothing, nothing, nothing, 302 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 3: and then somebody's. 303 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 2: Hurt and they go, you're fighting Shamous in the world 304 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 2: title match, and ninety nine percent of an entire crowd 305 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 2: is cheering for the bad guy as loud as they 306 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 2: possibly hit for the higher. 307 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 3: Match, and I go, damn it, hell yeah, we can. 308 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: Still get him because you're that guy that the office 309 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: counts on to make everyone look good because they can't 310 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: have a bad match. But I mean, that's going to 311 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: get the. 312 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 2: Push, right, and so that's you know, you pick one 313 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 2: or the other. Or I even tried it. Someone high 314 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 2: up was like, stop taking this finish so well, stop 315 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 2: being bumping, and I go. 316 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 3: I tried it once. 317 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 2: I tried it in a live event to like not 318 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 2: give everything, and the timing was off and it was weird, 319 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 2: and I felt, I go now for a split seg. 320 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 3: I maybe I can. No, I can't. I can only 321 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 3: do it as best as I can because I. 322 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 2: Have to sleep at night, even for an hour or two, 323 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 2: and so it's either like I know I'm not gonna 324 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 2: be the franchise guy, but every couple of months, I go, 325 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 2: I can get you know, if I can just get 326 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 2: them to think this way, I can get a couple 327 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 2: of months out of it and make the most of it. 328 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 3: So it's but it's also if you. 329 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 2: Can take that finish fantastic, you're gonna take it every week, 330 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 2: but also you're gonna take it every week for twenty 331 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 2: years and you're gonna build a legacy and get paid 332 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 2: and then on the weekends you can go do twenty 333 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 2: five minutes with cofee and tear it down and have 334 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 2: the best time in your life. 335 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: So they want you to take it, but take it 336 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: like not to the potential that you can. 337 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 2: Is that just a couple of people were trying. We're 338 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 2: trying to almost like look out for me and say 339 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 2: you take this too well. Like the first time I 340 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 2: took shamus Is finish, they go, holy shit, that was 341 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 2: Are you okay? And I go, it's it work for 342 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 2: the boss. It's my job to make it look like 343 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 2: I got And they're like, all right, yeah, so if 344 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 2: you're working the boss, and then the next time he's 345 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 2: like so it's like, oh cool, I'm doing something great, 346 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 2: and then it gets into the ooh, I don't know 347 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 2: who's winning the world title that night, but let's make 348 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 2: sure we get that shamous kick on golf because it's 349 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 2: gonna look so good, You're like, So then it got 350 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 2: to a point where I think there was a couple 351 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 2: of months on SmackDown where I was just fighting Shamus 352 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 2: for no reason because they wanted to see me take 353 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 2: his finish. And I get it, because there's some pretty 354 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 2: great gifts out there just whatever. I'm like, it looks 355 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 2: awesome because. 356 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 3: I had to do it great. 357 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 2: And then but then also after thirty matches, when you're 358 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 2: one in twenty nine, you're like, how do you make 359 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 2: this guy in the world chaff? How do you make 360 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 2: him credible? How do we follow him around in a 361 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 2: long term storyline? So it's good with bad? I don't know. 362 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: So do you feel like, like, I know you weren't 363 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: thrilled about the cheerleading gimmick, which I find I kind 364 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: of liked it, to be honest with you. 365 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 2: Well, that's fine to like it, but imagine you were. 366 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 2: Let me set it up a little bit better. They go, Hey, 367 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 2: we really like what you're doing. You're a clean cut 368 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 2: kid that we can google, and you broke records college 369 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 2: and you can't say, okay. 370 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 3: Appreciate that. 371 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 2: So you got the notes shut out and I was like, yeah, 372 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 2: I think Google, you go, we're really thinking about possibly 373 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 2: putting you as like like a young up and comer 374 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 2: with kurd Angle and like he's gonna be your hero 375 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,719 Speaker 2: and he's and I'm like this, this is the greatest 376 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 2: thing I've ever heard of? 377 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? 378 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 2: I gotta a tryout with WW because kurd Angle came 379 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 2: from amateur wrestling and was doing so well that they 380 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 2: gave a smaller guy like me a chance in a tryout. 381 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 3: I go, this is a dream come true. It's like 382 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 3: the movie. 383 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 2: It's like the Karate Kid movie where it's like uh, 384 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 2: sidekicks or something. 385 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 3: It was like Chuck Norris and the other kid are fighting. 386 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 2: Like he's with this hero. I go, this is the best. 387 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 2: And then I get a call to go to TV 388 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 2: and they're like you're gonna be a cheerleader with four 389 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 2: other guys and it's about one guy and you guys 390 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 2: are just gonna pump and feed and look like little sissies. 391 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 2: And then when we're done, who knows? And you go, 392 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:55,479 Speaker 2: I'm heartbroken. This sucks. What can I do? And then 393 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 2: a couple of days goes by and you go, here, 394 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 2: here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do this the 395 00:17:58,840 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 2: best as. 396 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 3: I damn well can. 397 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 2: And if this run is three months, like I've seen 398 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 2: a couple of people coming go it's a couple of months, 399 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 2: and they're gone, I go, if that's it, I'm gonna 400 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 2: give it everything I can. 401 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 3: And I go, I don't. 402 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 2: I won't be afraid to like embrace it because some 403 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 2: people don't get this one chance, I'm gonna take it. 404 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 3: And so you're still heartbroken and it sucks. 405 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 2: But then six months later, you're working with ten of 406 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 2: the greatest of all time every weekend and you're learning 407 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 2: the most, and those live event matches with Shawn Michaels, 408 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 2: Triple Ah, Rick Flair, Roddy Piper, Dusty Rhodes, like it's crazy, 409 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 2: Like it's crazy, like all this stuff happened in a 410 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 2: joking sense mostly, but I got to absorb everything, and 411 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 2: I got to a point where I'm like, Hey, Sean, 412 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 2: are you cool with me calling this match in a 413 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 2: live event when I'm out there? And He's like, uh yeah, 414 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 2: I can't try whatever that I was like, I called 415 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 2: one thing to Shawn Michaels, I'm like, is this really happening. 416 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 3: I'm a year and a half into wrestling. I don't 417 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 3: know what I'm doing. 418 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 2: Out of five guys, I was the fourth worst one 419 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 2: because I was eight months into training, Like I just 420 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 2: didn't know anything. I could like put a hold on 421 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 2: and break someone's back and take a pump. But theer's 422 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 2: one less experience was Mitch. She was like the fifth one, 423 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 2: but he was brand new and he was you know, 424 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 2: he was hired more on personality than wrestling, So it 425 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 2: was like I was like the worst one. 426 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 3: But I was trying to catch up. 427 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 2: So I was wrestling matches in the afternoon just to 428 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 2: try and catch up reps and get better with everybody, 429 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,479 Speaker 2: and Mikey would train me on the weekends just to 430 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 2: get a bunch of reps in. I just wanted to 431 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 2: make sure that I go in this. I thought every 432 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 2: week that the cheerleading thing was just like we're just 433 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 2: gonna get murdered and it was gonna be over. So 434 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 2: you go, if I get to hang around, I want 435 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 2: to be really good at wrestling. So I was just 436 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 2: doing matches NonStop and got to hang around even though 437 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 2: they put us, box us up and send us back TO'BW. 438 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: So Kenny was Kenny the supposed to be the breakout 439 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 1: star of the group. 440 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, and it ended up being you well years later, Yeah, 441 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 3: yeah it was. 442 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 2: It was more built for Kenny, and it's really fun 443 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 2: and Kenny's freaking awesome. And even though we were a 444 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 2: bunch of young guys, he was younger than all of 445 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 2: us by four or five years. He's like twenty years 446 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 2: old and looks the part, plays the part new back 447 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 2: backstage stuff. He was helping me out with stuff that 448 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 2: like an old timer would have to tell you for 449 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 2: behind the scenes stuff like how to like political stuff, 450 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 2: who to talk to it. And I was like it 451 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 2: was very helpful. He knew a lot at a young age, 452 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 2: and it was so one You're like, oh, you're a 453 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 2: cheerleader instead of you and tagging with Kernegle, I get 454 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 2: just so you know, you're the fourth worst one other group, 455 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 2: it's all about this. 456 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 3: One guy one who can't get paid. 457 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 2: Well, you guys bump around and you're like, man, this 458 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 2: is this is my dream job. 459 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 3: What the hell am I doing? 460 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: You know, it would tell somebody you're the fourth worst guy. 461 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 2: That's well that's what they didn't tell me that Okay, 462 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 2: the other three were good at wrestling, and I was 463 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 2: brand new and the other guy was the only one 464 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 2: who was newer than me. 465 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: Like, oh my goodness. The KFC match that you had, 466 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: was that a rib or? I mean, I know you 467 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 1: were promoting like that was promote. I mean you were 468 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: doing the commercials like I watched because I was watching 469 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: a couple of things that you did and not popped up, 470 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: And I said to myself, I wonder if you'd liked 471 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: this or not, because I mean, I guess it would 472 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: be fun to dress up. 473 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:16,239 Speaker 2: And you know, it's a very serious business when it 474 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 2: comes to KFC and the Colonel just so you know, okay, 475 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 2: there was a special wig that I got fitted for 476 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 2: that got flown in with a person holding it like 477 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 2: it's a big deal. So whether whether some things at work, 478 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 2: which of course are ribs, to make funny. That was 479 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 2: a fun one where I got to beat the freaking colonel. 480 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 2: We got to do a real commercial with it. I 481 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 2: got to beat up my buddy Maz who was a 482 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 2: chicken in the video, right, And it was like a 483 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 2: bunch of money, so kind of a win win, like those. 484 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 3: Kind of ribs. 485 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 2: I'm okay, okay, but it was we had a really 486 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 2: cool partnership with KFC and they ended up doing I 487 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 2: mean maybe Rick Flair or Shawn Michaels or something. 488 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 3: But I go, I got to be the freaking curl. 489 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 2: It was a thing ever and and in that and 490 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 2: people had no idea what was happening because we just 491 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 2: filmed this match after a raw and we just like 492 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 2: come out and it's just like I'm the colonel and 493 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 2: miss like they're like, what the hell is happening? And 494 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 2: we just got to have fun with it in film 495 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 2: for a couple of days. So no, that was an 496 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 2: absolute blast. Good DFC people were so great to me, 497 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 2: and yeah, so uh, there's a million other things in 498 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 2: a ribs. 499 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: That's just like I'm saying, I'm not knocking it at all. 500 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: It's just one of That was one of the things 501 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 1: that popped up, and I was like, I wonder if 502 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 1: he considered this like a RIB or if it was 503 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 1: cool to you know, do something, because believe me, we 504 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: all did things that were either we cringe when we 505 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: look back, or you know, you do what the office 506 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: tells you to do. 507 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 2: I get it, of course, and it's a lot of 508 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 2: people forget, like say like I don't know aw now 509 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 2: or TNA now and me ten years ago. Like they're like, 510 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 2: here's the idea, come up with a cool promo, and 511 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 2: we kind of throw. 512 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 3: Some ideas back board with me. 513 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 2: A lot of times it's like Vince wants you to 514 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 2: say these three sentences and you look back and you're like, 515 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 2: I'm so embarrassed that I said those three sentences. It's like, 516 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 2: it's not like I was bad at a promo. It 517 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 2: was like I hate this cringey thing that I was 518 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 2: told to say, and there was no way around it. 519 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 1: You know. 520 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 2: A couple different times, you build up some equity and 521 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 2: you go, I'm gonna go out of my own and 522 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 2: then I got like a call from Jericho saying, hey, 523 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 2: that's the coolest promo we've ever done. I was like, well, 524 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 2: when I got back to Guerrill, they told me I'm 525 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 2: not talking. 526 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 3: For six months because they it wasn't what they told 527 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 3: me to say. 528 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like what okay, great, and so you like 529 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 2: you take the good with the bad, and you go, 530 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 2: I have to listen and do exactly what the boss wants. 531 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 2: When you try and sneak something in that you think 532 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 2: it's not to pop yourself. It's to like help a 533 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 2: story or make it that much better. And even if 534 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 2: it is, they'd be like, we want you guys to 535 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 2: start stepping on some toes and you're like, all right, 536 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 2: you go out there like. 537 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 3: This guy, this guy, this guy. Yeah, hell yeah, you 538 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 3: get to I go, well, not those toes, and like, well, 539 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 3: who's toes do you want me to step on? 540 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 2: Jtg's get the hell out of You're like, I'm going 541 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 2: after the top guy. 542 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 3: He's like, that's that's what stepping on toes is. 543 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 2: And you're like, you gotta remember who the boss is 544 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 2: and who his friends are and take that into account. 545 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 3: I guess I don't know. 546 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. I always found like, because in the beginning, promos 547 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,479 Speaker 1: were not my strong point. I used to get really nervous, 548 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: especially if I had to do it verbatim. Well, when 549 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: I would get bullet points, I found that my mind 550 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: would start to wander and I would add all these 551 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: cool things, and I was so much more relaxed if 552 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: they just gave me a couple ideas instead of like 553 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: a page with blah blah blah blah blah. Because I'm 554 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: not good with memory. 555 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not a crazy memorizer either. But then even 556 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 2: if you do memorize an entire sheet of of of words, 557 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 2: you're just saying you're. 558 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 3: Not going you're not feeling that, you're not Oh this 559 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 3: one really part here, and it's like into your paracter 560 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 3: into whatever you actually in the moment, and it really 561 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 3: is how you're feeling, work. 562 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: Whatever. 563 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 3: Yeah you're like, Okay, I don't know, but uh well, 564 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 3: yeah that happens. That's part of the deal. And we 565 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 3: all are nervous as hell at first, especially. 566 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: The worst I used to shake. I would be I. 567 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: I was the worst. That's that's all I had to say. 568 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: Now I'm good, but back then I was terrible. Oh 569 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: my god, but I I loved your w W career 570 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: even though you were kind of a suppressed. Did a 571 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: hell of a job. But we're going to transition now 572 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 1: because you know, right now you're you're all over the 573 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: place sharing with T and A, m jp W literally 574 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: right triple A. You're on the Englands. Even though when 575 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,199 Speaker 1: I told you about Wressell Kate you didn't even know 576 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: what it was. You're gonna learn. It takes a while. Listen, 577 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: I went right into E c W. I never did 578 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: in d either. I wasn't that. Yeah, I didn't know any. 579 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 3: Try to figure it out. 580 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, but we went bankrupts in seven years. So then 581 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: I had to learn really quick because I didn't know 582 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: who call and just who to talk to you, you know, 583 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: so I get it, but you're you're all over the place. 584 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: And the one thing when they released that twenty two 585 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 1: people were released that one day, and your name was 586 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: on that list. I was shocked because I was just like, Wow, 587 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 1: I thought this was gonna be a guy like you said, 588 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 1: like an undertaker or like the stone called Seed Boston, 589 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 1: just there for the duration of your career. 590 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 3: So I was kind of shocked. Yeah. 591 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 2: So and several years ago, Vince was like, you know, 592 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,719 Speaker 2: when it's time to hang it up, I appreciate you 593 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 2: when you come in here, because I, uh, usually when 594 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 2: it was like a group of people or you know, 595 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 2: I had some so much seniority that I could just go, hey, boss, 596 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 2: we're gonna switch this other thing. 597 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 3: You know, I had like a better chance of getting 598 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 3: something switched. 599 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 2: So I would always be sent to talk to him 600 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 2: about whatever we were doing that week or whatever, excuse me. 601 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 2: And then we got to a point where, uh, he 602 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 2: said yeah, you know, when the time is right, you'll transition. 603 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 2: You in a couple of years down the road, you know, 604 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 2: you'd be like a player coach, like a Pete Rose, 605 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 2: and you'll be behind the scenes and in the meetings 606 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 2: with us, and then still wrestling. 607 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 3: Then eventually transitioned just full time. 608 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 2: You're here forever. I went, oh, okay, that's the way 609 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 2: to go. And then a couple more years he was like, 610 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 2: you know, you'll be here and you'll do this. I go, so, 611 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 2: I just assume this is my life and eventually I'll 612 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 2: slowly go behind the scenes and help out, like this 613 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 2: is great. And then I got to a point where 614 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 2: I really told myself, I go, I only have a 615 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,959 Speaker 2: certain window, no matter how I am with injuries, you 616 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 2: have a certain window to where you can still be 617 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 2: a top somewhat of a game changer at a different company, 618 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 2: at a different show, at an independent where you can 619 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 2: have this match, these matches that you wanted to have 620 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 2: for the last fifteen years that either Undertaker and Triple 621 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 2: H went nineteen minutes over at WrestleMania, so you have 622 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 2: thirty seconds for your tag match or like things like that, 623 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 2: to where you're like, well, now I get a chance 624 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 2: to do it where I'm calling the shots, or if 625 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 2: someone goes over by twenty minutes, I can still do 626 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 2: my match, or I still have this thing, or I 627 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 2: saw this guy in Japan ten years ago I wanted 628 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 2: to wrestle. 629 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 3: I never thought it could happen. Now it's going to. 630 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 2: Like can have a tonsh like I never thought no 631 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 2: world that would ever happen. But so I said, I 632 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 2: only have a few years where I have this window 633 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,439 Speaker 2: to be healthy and where it matters extra to like 634 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 2: be in the ring with someone and have like a 635 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 2: special match or a special just like career after WWE. 636 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 2: So I said, I know I'm out of here unless 637 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 2: you guys got a bunch of money and they give 638 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 2: me a bunch of money. And I said, okay, when 639 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 2: I go half there's no way they're gonna let this 640 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 2: entire contract go through because they shouldn't. 641 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 3: I am sitting at home like this is stupid. 642 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 2: So halfway through a year in, I go, this is great. 643 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna start planning on getting out of here 644 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 2: and going somewhere else. So a year in, I'm checking out. 645 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 2: I'm watching Japanese wrestling. I'm watching TNA I'm watching aw 646 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 2: and watching everything, and I get to a point where 647 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 2: I go, hey, now, I'm not even coming in like 648 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 2: getting an entrance. I'm not even tagging with Bob Rude. 649 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 2: I'm not even like making something. It's not even fun 650 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 2: when someone pins me. I go, Vince, thanks for everything. 651 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 2: A twenty page email. This is the greatest job in 652 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 2: the world. And then I aired out some dirty laundry 653 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 2: about how it was bad and just in the last 654 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 2: couple of paragraphs, but the rest was very, very positive, 655 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 2: and I said, please, you have me in a position 656 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 2: of what a local can do, pay him and don't 657 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 2: pay me millions of dollars to do it. Let me go. Please, 658 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 2: let me go do this while I still can't. And 659 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 2: he responded and said, wow, give me a week to 660 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 2: think about this. I go, Vince, I go if fly 661 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 2: into Stanford tomorrow if you want me too. He goes, Okay, 662 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 2: just let me think about this and we'll figure something out. 663 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 2: I appreciate you laying this email. Great, And then two 664 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 2: weeks later I was on the release list. 665 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: So that's terrific though that it worked out the way 666 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: it did. Yeah, so they could have been bitter and 667 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: be like, no, we're not gonna let you. 668 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 2: Go, right, and it's and I was like, okay, but 669 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 2: I feel had they not been bought out, I would 670 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 2: have been stuck there. Okay, but they were like, let's 671 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 2: trim some pat millions of dollars sitting at home on 672 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 2: the bench. Yeah, good time. 673 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 3: And he just asked to leave for the fifth time. Okay, 674 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 3: We're gona let him know, right, okay. 675 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 2: So, uh, yeah, this is there's some stuff in the 676 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,719 Speaker 2: past to where it was like handshake deal that uh, 677 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 2: the boss kind of backed out of. 678 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 3: So I get you job. 679 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 2: I was happy to get this one that was somewhat 680 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 2: of a handshake deal to let me out of a 681 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 2: contract a year early. 682 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,239 Speaker 1: So that's that's tremendous that it worked out the way 683 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: it did. So again, going back to when I heard 684 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: the releases, the first thing I thought of was ou 685 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: he's going to a w and then so And the 686 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: only reason why I said that is because of the money, right, 687 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: not thinking that you're you're a rich man because you've 688 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: worked there for so long. Probably smart with your money, 689 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: that's okay, but at the you know, the age and 690 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: this stage in the game, you want to make as 691 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: much as you can, So my thought was like, he's 692 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: going to pick aw And then I started thinking about 693 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: all of your other things that you're doing, because you know, 694 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: we follow each other, so I see your socials and 695 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: I see what you're doing, and I was like, they 696 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: might kind of say, well, you can't do this, you 697 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: can't do that, so maybe he won't be going there. 698 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: So you end up choosing TNA, which I was in. 699 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: I was shocked at first, and then I was thrilled 700 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: because I was like, this is awesome. They have a 701 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: great product. This is going to get more eyes on them. 702 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: Good for him, right am I right with thinking like 703 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: you chose TNA just because of a little more freedom 704 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: than maybe. 705 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 3: The no no. 706 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 2: So it's it's not even that. I talked with Tony 707 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 2: a long time ago and he was like, hey, just see, 708 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 2: you know, you could do anything you want while. 709 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: You were okay, okay, you go. 710 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 3: You could have this twitch stream YouTube, this comedy shows 711 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 3: wrestle independence. 712 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 2: You get a lot of leeway here because I want, like, 713 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 2: in a very positive way, he wants everyone to have 714 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 2: a good time and be doing the best possible. I go, 715 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 2: that's awesome, And a lot of people did think I 716 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 2: was going to aw and I and I love a 717 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 2: bunch of people at AW I love aw Tony's freaking great. 718 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 2: I just was weighing my options and figuring out I 719 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 2: didn't have a plan. So Scott Demore the first day 720 00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 2: that I was announced that I was out. 721 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 3: Of w B, was like, what can I do to 722 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 3: get you here? 723 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 2: I want you to see the blueprint of how we 724 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 2: do work things behind the scenes. We have long term booking, 725 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 2: here's the planning, here's what we're doing. And I was like, 726 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 2: I don't want to sign with anybody. I want to 727 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 2: try out. I got this thing in my head, I 728 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 2: want to go make a name for myself on the 729 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 2: Independence for six months a year, just to see if 730 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 2: I can still go out, just to see if I 731 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 2: can go outside of this New York bubble because I've 732 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 2: only been here. I didn't do Independence, I didn't bounce around. 733 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 2: I was only here and I have a pretty good, 734 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 2: you know, backlog of accolades. I want to see if 735 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 2: I can hang or be better or the best everywhere 736 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 2: around the world. So I thank you so much, but 737 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 2: I just I just get out of a long term relationship. 738 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 2: I'm not really looking I'm not really looking to get engaged, 739 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,719 Speaker 2: you know, for a few years here, or even engaged 740 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 2: to be engaged. And he kept talking to me techtos. 741 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 2: How about come we can do some dates. I was like, 742 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 2: all right, let's do like eight or ten dates. We'll 743 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 2: try it out. But I can still do everything on 744 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 2: my ownies. Yes, okay, great. So that's how it started. 745 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 2: And I just really loved everyone. I loved I love 746 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 2: everybody there. 747 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 3: Gail's the best. There's so many and like, I won't 748 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 3: say it's better than every other. 749 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 2: Locker room, because every other locker room when you were there, Like, man, 750 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 2: everybody wants this to succeed. 751 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 3: This is fantastic. It's a team. 752 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 2: But it's even more so the edge for me personally 753 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 2: with TNAS because we don't have a billion dollars. 754 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 3: So no matter how much of a team you are, 755 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 3: what's happening. You're like, do we have catering today? 756 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 2: Oh? 757 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 3: Do we have security? 758 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 2: Like? Is there tape? Like that kind of stuff really 759 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 2: really gets it. 760 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: It's that it's no I'm getting flashbacks because we didn't 761 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: have anything right yeah, yeah, Like we didn't have many 762 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: of the artists. We did our own we did we 763 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: didn't have outlets nick in some of the buildings so 764 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: you couldn't do your hair no mirrors. I was in 765 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: a men's room with it in front of you know, 766 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: urine all. 767 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 3: I mean, it was disgusting. 768 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: That's how ECW was, So I get it. 769 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 2: But there's something like beautiful about it, you know what 770 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 2: I mean. And I'm not even totally joking in a 771 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 2: way where it's it's like, you know, there isn't that 772 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 2: billion dollars or millions of dollars behind you, and you 773 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 2: go and already and all those rosters are so tight 774 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 2: and they are working to a goal as a team. 775 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 2: It's like extra special to me when you don't have that, 776 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 2: So now you're like, we are all a team, and 777 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 2: we're all doing I think, but we're all trying to 778 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 2: fight just to get a little bit like one percent 779 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 2: more respect in the business. So now it's that much 780 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 2: more of a special thing. So every roster like the business, 781 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 2: everyone works so much harder than other professional sports and 782 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 2: jobs that I love it and I will never ever 783 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 2: not say that that is the case. So I live 784 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 2: for that part amateur wrestling wise or pro wrestling like, 785 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 2: just it builds. 786 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 3: So much character and makes you go. 787 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 2: This is on me to make a change or make 788 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 2: something different about the business. 789 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 3: And if I don't, there's no one to blame. Now, 790 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 3: if you're in New York. 791 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 2: And you're told everywhere to say and everything to do, 792 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 2: it's a little out of your hands when you're when 793 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 2: you get a little leeway with t and a independence. 794 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 2: Aw now you either stand out or you can't, or 795 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:00,359 Speaker 2: you can't go back. And like you know, I'm being 796 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 2: held back because I wasn't allowed to say. 797 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 3: You get a lot of. 798 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 2: Leeway to do whatever you want and get yourself over. 799 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 2: And I'm trying to do it for a second time, 800 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 2: slowly but surely getting used to By the way, I'm 801 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 2: very used to New York one oh one Wrestling, and 802 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 2: I was trying to adjust to TNA and ADW and 803 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 2: New Japan. And in the first couple of months, I'm 804 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 2: just starting to get there. I'm just getting my teeth 805 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 2: into it. Let alone to figure out the difference of 806 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 2: what the crowd wants, of what the product is, and 807 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 2: the whole work has been done, and the first couple 808 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 2: of months of matches are getting done and I'm getting 809 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:31,839 Speaker 2: better every day. 810 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,280 Speaker 1: I think I stole a graphic you're tagging with your brother. 811 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: Have you worked with him before? 812 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:42,359 Speaker 2: Hilariously, we've only done comedy shows and been on some 813 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 2: stuff together. One time in NXT, they sent I believe 814 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 2: I was like holding the money in the bank briefcase contract, 815 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 2: and they sent myself and AJ to NXT just to 816 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 2: like be a part of a six man match, just 817 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,240 Speaker 2: to get some people in the door or something. 818 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 3: I don't even remember why. Because of my in the match, 819 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 3: I was. 820 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 2: Like, oh, this is great. I'm like, I'll do something 821 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,439 Speaker 2: with Ryan. We'll start off well, I'll talk a bunch 822 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 2: of trash and call you guys all idiots, you suck, 823 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 2: and then we'll get down to it and then we'll 824 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 2: have Trimperetta hit this finish and Ryan'll hit this day 825 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 2: of this and they we're not doing any of that. 826 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 2: This is and by the way, it was barely NXC. 827 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 2: It wasn't like big, you know, Olympic Training Center NXC. 828 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,359 Speaker 2: It's very new NXT. And they're like, we're not doing 829 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 2: any of that. You're squashing these guys and like you're like, oh, 830 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 2: are you Like yes, you're not, like oh, So we 831 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 2: didn't really get to have like a fun match and 832 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 2: do things. 833 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 3: So this will be the first time. 834 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 1: That's awesome. 835 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 3: We're actually doing something together, especially planned out. So yeah, 836 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:39,280 Speaker 3: it's very exciting. 837 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 1: Fun. Well, that's fun. So I love the wrestling. Love 838 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: talking about wrestling. Co talk to for another five hours 839 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 1: about it. I want to transition over to your comedy 840 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: because I find it really interesting. I know you did 841 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 1: something called Flying Chuck. It was that you're like your 842 00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: first attempt at like doing these live shows on your own. 843 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 2: No, that's just that's a fun show that I did 844 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 2: and where you tell stories and you do a little 845 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 2: improv in between stories, and it's fun. And I did 846 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 2: a couple of those my brother. That was at the beginning. 847 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 2: But I was very lucky because of social media. I 848 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,879 Speaker 2: was born with wrestling even fifteen years ago. So I'm 849 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,839 Speaker 2: just putting like jokes on my Twitter, like just making 850 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 2: jokes of whatever happened to the news or something in 851 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:24,839 Speaker 2: wrestling or something in TV. 852 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:25,320 Speaker 3: Whatever. 853 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 2: And Sean O'Connor, who's writing for James Corden and a 854 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 2: couple other things. 855 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 3: At the time, he's like, hey, man, you want to 856 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 3: be on the show. 857 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,720 Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, I don't really have any material written, 858 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 2: but yeah, I'll do it, and it was just like, 859 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 2: he goes. 860 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 3: You have no right to be on this show, but 861 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:40,840 Speaker 3: I'm a wrestling fans. I'm putting you on it. 862 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 2: So it's a bunch of open micers and Andy Kindler 863 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,359 Speaker 2: and Andy Kidler's gonna rush for thirty minutes and then 864 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 2: you go do your three minutes and I go, okay, 865 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,879 Speaker 2: I'll do it. So I wrote out like a three 866 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 2: minute Chipotle bit that I didn't know was work or not. 867 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 3: I didn't go to do open mics. 868 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 2: I didn't. It was just like walking on stage and 869 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 2: by stage, it's the backroom of a coffee house. It's 870 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 2: a stage in Silver Lake, Yeah, which is technically a stage. 871 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 2: Most of the people are in the crowd. They're like 872 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 2: going over their jokes. 873 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 3: And like rolling their eyes. 874 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 2: And then Andy Kindler comes out and if you don't 875 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 2: know who he is, like he's had Bob's Burger's. But 876 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,439 Speaker 2: I've known it from like the eighties as long term 877 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 2: stand up comedy, like I'm a huge fan. 878 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 3: He goes out basically with no material. 879 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 2: It just crushes for thirty minutes on everybody, just like 880 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 2: seemingly making it up off the top of his head. 881 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 2: Kills and walks out and then I go out there 882 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 2: and I'm like, don't drop the bike. 883 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 3: Remember you're the first. 884 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 2: Word, and I'm like, so scared, and I do that. 885 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:35,439 Speaker 2: It's a four minute set. 886 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:36,919 Speaker 3: I think, I do it like two and a half 887 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 3: minutes because I'm so scared and just run through it. 888 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 3: But the very first. 889 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 2: Opening thing I said, I said this opening sentence, and 890 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,320 Speaker 2: it felt like a minute went by, have just total silence, 891 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,240 Speaker 2: and I'm like, I s feel my face getting hot, 892 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:51,360 Speaker 2: and I'm like, this sucks. 893 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 3: What did I do? And one person in the crowd like, 894 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 3: who's on the pointless? 895 00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 2: I went okay, and I looked, Andy Kin is still there. 896 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 2: He was supposed to leave break to other show, and 897 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 2: he's laughing at a thing I said off to the 898 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,240 Speaker 2: side of go what okay. 899 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 3: So then I extra run through like the next two 900 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 3: minutes of my my set. It sucks. Who cares? I 901 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 3: don't know what I'm doing. 902 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 2: But I got up station. I go, oh my god, 903 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 2: I can't wait to switch this, this, and this. I 904 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 2: gotta do it again. And it was like I was 905 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 2: hooked then. And that was a long long time ago, 906 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 2: but every year I'd get one or two shots. But 907 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 2: back then that was the five six days a week 908 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 2: with WWE and myself, Shamus Kofe Miz were constantly just 909 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 2: staying on the road or doing pr in between, so 910 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 2: like there was no time off. So getting I started 911 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 2: ten years ago, but it was like the first six 912 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 2: years was like two shows a year and it was 913 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 2: like sometimes five minutes sometimes and it was but that 914 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 2: was I had no I'm trying to find my notebooks, 915 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 2: like uh, notebooks like this just stacked up around. 916 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 1: My house, just stories written down. 917 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 2: It's stories, but mostly like stand ups of like this 918 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,359 Speaker 2: is very annoying waiting at this light. This person doing 919 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 2: this thing, this that Chipotle acts like they're getting paid 920 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 2: by the rice to put it on my breath. And 921 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 2: it's just like there's all these millions of little things 922 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,440 Speaker 2: and I was trying to make them into jokes and 923 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,360 Speaker 2: then knowing that several of my first shows will just 924 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,319 Speaker 2: be wrestling fans, and it's like, Okay, I gotta put 925 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 2: some wrestling stuff in there. So I always tried to 926 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:23,800 Speaker 2: have some little balance of like wrestling stuff, dating stuff, 927 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 2: and like some kind of fast food to where it 928 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 2: was like if you're a wrestling fan, you know if 929 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 2: you're a hardcore wrestling fan, you know forty percent of 930 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 2: the bits. If you don't watch anything and just know 931 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,480 Speaker 2: the rocket whole COVID, you'll get twenty percent of it. 932 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 2: If you don't watch wrestling at all, know anything, twenty 933 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 2: percent of it will still be me on Tinder trying 934 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 2: to get a girlfriend or something. So I always wanted 935 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 2: I didn't want to I isolate or take away the audience. 936 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 3: That I was begging to get. It was like I 937 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 3: knew wrestling fans were there and I had to give 938 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 3: them something. 939 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 2: But also the occasional wrestling pan has a girlfriend, so 940 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 2: let's get some Tinder dog something. 941 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:06,359 Speaker 1: Yes, I interviewed Jim Florentine on this show before, and yeah, 942 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,439 Speaker 1: I'm a big fan. And he's a wrestling fan as well. 943 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 1: So when he was going, you know, he knew he's 944 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 1: CW blah blah blah, and I had asked him. I said, 945 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,880 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you're pretty crude about like family members 946 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 1: or stuff. I said, do you make that up? And 947 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,440 Speaker 1: do they get mad? And he goes, nine times out 948 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 1: of ten, I usually fabricate a lot of my stand up. 949 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,479 Speaker 1: He goes, and if they get mad, and then don't 950 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,879 Speaker 1: talk to me. It doesn't really matter. And I said, 951 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 1: I'm the type of person like you, even in like 952 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,439 Speaker 1: when it comes back to wrestling promos, you can call 953 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 1: me any name in the book as long as it's 954 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 1: in front of the camera. Like if you did it 955 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 1: behind the scenes, it would break my heart. Oh, I 956 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 1: can definitely sit in the front row and take it 957 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 1: and laugh along, because that's what humor is, and you 958 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 1: have to laugh at yourself, you know. And I learned 959 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 1: so much from like guys like him, and I interviewed 960 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 1: a couple of other guys, but he was like the 961 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 1: biggest comedian And I asked him, like, do you get 962 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 1: heckled a lot? Like how do you handle a heckler? 963 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 1: Are telling me, yeah, you how how did you handler 964 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 1: handle a heckler? 965 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 3: I like not having something prepared and just saying something. 966 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,239 Speaker 2: And I was very lucky to for a couple of 967 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 2: years to have Sarah Tiana, who's a genuine headliner. She 968 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:16,920 Speaker 2: would middle for me because she knew how to do 969 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,759 Speaker 2: stand up and she would deal with the clubs and 970 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 2: she could get the order and everything going behind the scenes. 971 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:23,840 Speaker 3: So she was really. 972 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 2: Good about, uh pulling people out because a lot of 973 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 2: times people were there. I'm very lucky wrestling fans will 974 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 2: go out of their way to support you in some 975 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 2: other venue, so they go out of their way to 976 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 2: be there. But she said for a while she could 977 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,879 Speaker 2: just see there, just see they're like, when's Nick coming out? 978 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:40,840 Speaker 2: Like you're not him, You're not a wrestler. 979 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:42,359 Speaker 3: What are you doing? Are you banging him? 980 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 1: We hate you? 981 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,600 Speaker 3: Like so she was like she was always ready to go, and. 982 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 2: Stupidly, almost no one heckles me and something to yell 983 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,839 Speaker 2: out like Nikki or something, and you're like, okay, that's not. 984 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 3: Even that funny, like all right, got it? 985 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 1: You why the stage? 986 00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 2: I was like yeah, and Sarah would She would always 987 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,359 Speaker 2: be like, listen, there's a reason they don't pass out 988 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,719 Speaker 2: these mf and MIC's at the door. There's one and 989 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,719 Speaker 2: I'm holding it so like sit there, and I was like, 990 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 2: oh damn, all right. So and then she knew very 991 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 2: little about wrestling, so we would do a Q and 992 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:12,880 Speaker 2: A and it would be extra funny because they're like, 993 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:14,719 Speaker 2: when are you going to aw and she goes the 994 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,799 Speaker 2: root beer and it was just like we're all set, 995 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 2: like it was just and then we would just bust 996 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 2: each other's balls, and yeah, actually did a Comedy Central 997 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 2: roast battle together. I saw it awesome. I so fun 998 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 2: to write jokes. It was naked to TV, like what 999 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 2: the hell? So she was a killer and she always 1000 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,000 Speaker 2: really helped out. And then eventually got to a part 1001 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,400 Speaker 2: where if you're there and you're a wrestling fan, if 1002 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 2: I get all my stories and an I could do 1003 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 2: like forty minutes. I wouldn't say that it was like 1004 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 2: really good. It was just I could pull that kind 1005 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 2: of time and tell some wrestling stories if I needed to. 1006 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,880 Speaker 2: But also I'm working on you know, my Chipotle and 1007 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:49,440 Speaker 2: tender stuff Chipotle. 1008 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 1: Did you see the Tom Brady roost? 1009 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,640 Speaker 2: I saw so many clips of it that I haven't 1010 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,440 Speaker 2: watched it all the way through yet, but it was 1011 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,280 Speaker 2: so everyone was like, did you see Glazer? 1012 00:43:58,360 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 3: She killed like she always did. 1013 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,600 Speaker 1: You know, she was the best. I thought Nikki was 1014 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 1: the best out of all of them, just her to 1015 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 1: everything hit for her. So then I went back and 1016 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:14,440 Speaker 1: I found a reality show that she did, and I 1017 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:15,960 Speaker 1: was kind of disappointed with her. 1018 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 3: Oh really, yeah, is it hers? 1019 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,799 Speaker 1: No, it's her, it's her her life. She had to 1020 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:28,520 Speaker 1: move back to the Midwest. When COVID hit and but 1021 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 1: it was I know there are work, I mean we 1022 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 1: you know, I know realities at work, but this one, 1023 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 1: it just it was too too much, Like I I 1024 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,719 Speaker 1: just knew most of this stuff was just like that's 1025 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,359 Speaker 1: not happening. That's I don't know. I was just I 1026 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,719 Speaker 1: love her stand up, but I was disappointed in her 1027 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 1: in her show. But I think she's great, Like she's 1028 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,959 Speaker 1: funny as hell, a killer. 1029 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,640 Speaker 3: She looks great and then probably makes people more mad, 1030 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,360 Speaker 3: which is so great. Like I love that. 1031 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:57,560 Speaker 1: She was awesome. 1032 00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,440 Speaker 2: She was like if you're a killer and smart and funny, 1033 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,759 Speaker 2: like that's the best cowboy you could like. 1034 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:03,319 Speaker 3: I love that. 1035 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, Ben Affleck just he struck out. 1036 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,359 Speaker 3: He wasn't really did he have a good joke. 1037 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,000 Speaker 1: He it was it was kind of a bit about 1038 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 1: like you know, guys tweeting at you, calling you a loser, 1039 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,439 Speaker 1: like you know, the keyboard warrior kind of thing, and 1040 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,719 Speaker 1: you could tell he was kind of reading off the teleprompter. 1041 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 1: But his delay I thought as an actor it would 1042 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:30,240 Speaker 1: have been more precise. But then he got pissed off 1043 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,360 Speaker 1: and he left. He didn't even like go shake to 1044 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 1: Tom Brady's hand. He left and I think he was pissed. 1045 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:43,359 Speaker 1: And then I watched THEO Vaughn is another kill. Now, 1046 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,920 Speaker 1: I I'm a big reality show nut, so I know 1047 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:48,000 Speaker 1: him from. 1048 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 3: Like road Rules and now. 1049 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, like I'm back in the my age, but going 1050 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:57,920 Speaker 1: back in the in the days of yes and so anyway, 1051 00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:59,799 Speaker 1: I was listening to his podcast. Nicky was on his 1052 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:04,040 Speaker 1: and she was saying Ben was supposed to stay. And 1053 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:08,839 Speaker 1: then when Tom did his bit, he was referring to 1054 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,560 Speaker 1: to him, but the camera would look around. He's like 1055 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:12,319 Speaker 1: he's not even here. 1056 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 3: Oh that's really I feel like I would have heard 1057 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,400 Speaker 3: more stuff about that. Now I want to know what 1058 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 3: the deal was. 1059 00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I think because he kind 1060 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 1: of like lost the audience and kind of bombed. He 1061 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,760 Speaker 1: got pissed off and he just walked off the stage 1062 00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:25,239 Speaker 1: pistol off. 1063 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:26,239 Speaker 3: Now I got to watch that. 1064 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 1: It was good. 1065 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,640 Speaker 2: You would think, you know actors like they commit to 1066 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,279 Speaker 2: the bit, but also some people like we get it, 1067 00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,719 Speaker 2: Like I don't know, we I wanna be stand up. 1068 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 2: So like I get excited for the Roads because I 1069 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,640 Speaker 2: used to watch the old ones. I write down all 1070 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 2: these jokes. I want to be a part of it. 1071 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,000 Speaker 2: I want to go watch them, so we get excited 1072 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,040 Speaker 2: about it. But I also try and like tell other people, 1073 00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 2: like when you're when you're doing media rounds and you 1074 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 2: bounce up to like thirty radio stations and twenty TV 1075 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,520 Speaker 2: shows a lot of Or someone comes to be a 1076 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,440 Speaker 2: guest host on Raw and they're in the middle of 1077 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:54,960 Speaker 2: a thing for their movie. They're like, they're on no 1078 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:56,799 Speaker 2: sleep through on two days of shit. They don't know 1079 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,520 Speaker 2: what wrestling is. They don't give a damn about this, 1080 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,880 Speaker 2: and they're like yeah, yeah, and those read the cue cards. 1081 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,400 Speaker 2: So maybe the ben Affleck who's doing movies and directing 1082 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:04,960 Speaker 2: behind the seats, he was like, yeah, I'll come do 1083 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,200 Speaker 2: this this bullshit little thing for a million bucks, and 1084 00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,200 Speaker 2: I'll read to tell them. I'm like, wait, why isn't 1085 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,799 Speaker 2: everyone laughing at me? Everyone usually word what the hell? 1086 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,399 Speaker 2: Like maybe that's the case, Like. 1087 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:13,839 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1088 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,919 Speaker 1: I don't know either, because it like. 1089 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,200 Speaker 2: It's the stuff that we would like, Oh, I would 1090 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,160 Speaker 2: be working on that night and day for six months 1091 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,200 Speaker 2: to get ready. He might have just been like, uh, 1092 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:24,719 Speaker 2: they paid me to be here, so I'm doing it. 1093 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:25,279 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1094 00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:27,960 Speaker 1: He definitely phoned it in. You could just tell. It 1095 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,120 Speaker 1: was kind of like hmm, I'm reading this prompter and 1096 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,040 Speaker 1: blah blah blah, but no one was really into the bit, 1097 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,680 Speaker 1: and I was like, I watch it. I said, oh, 1098 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,520 Speaker 1: I kind of feel bad for him. And then you 1099 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 1: could just see it on his face and he just 1100 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,160 Speaker 1: walked off. He's so pissed off. 1101 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:41,440 Speaker 3: And I was like, now I got it. Now I 1102 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:42,320 Speaker 3: got to make sure to watch that. 1103 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to because the whole the two or 1104 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,480 Speaker 1: three hours, it flew by. Because I like stands up. 1105 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,520 Speaker 3: I'm a big fan, so I am. I'm a nerd 1106 00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:49,759 Speaker 3: for it. 1107 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:54,760 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, for real. You had mentioned Tinder with girlfriends, 1108 00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,120 Speaker 1: So here here's something. And if you don't want to answer, 1109 00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,799 Speaker 1: you don't have to answer. But as I go and 1110 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:06,160 Speaker 1: I find things. Amy Schumer, I had a quote about 1111 00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,759 Speaker 1: you because you were in the mainstream media when you 1112 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,239 Speaker 1: were seeing her. I don't know how long your relationship 1113 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,640 Speaker 1: A little bit, a little bit, okay, attracted to her 1114 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,920 Speaker 1: because she's funny, comedian wise you meet. 1115 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:23,920 Speaker 2: Her, Yeah, it's also attractive, okay, okay, But also but 1116 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 2: that is that that is something to me that's hugely important, 1117 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,960 Speaker 2: like being smart, whether you're funny or not funny, like 1118 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,560 Speaker 2: being smart is a is a huge that's number one 1119 00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:32,840 Speaker 2: for me. 1120 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,120 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I didn't. I didn't mean to say she's 1121 00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 1: not attractive. I'm saying because of your love for comedy, 1122 00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:39,759 Speaker 1: Well that would also it. 1123 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,240 Speaker 3: Just we Uh she was someone who I thought was really. 1124 00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:46,440 Speaker 2: Funny and quick cute and uh yeah she's uh and we. 1125 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:47,600 Speaker 3: Hung out for a little while. 1126 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:51,880 Speaker 2: We had a absolutely fantastic time. Uh well it was 1127 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,520 Speaker 2: before she went into tons of becoming a huge star 1128 00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,840 Speaker 2: of movies and everything. So yeah, I have nothing nothing 1129 00:48:58,880 --> 00:48:59,560 Speaker 2: negative to say. 1130 00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:01,960 Speaker 1: Great negative. Well here's what she said about you, and 1131 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,400 Speaker 1: I'm sure you heard this before she broke up with 1132 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:08,000 Speaker 1: you via text because you're too athletic. And she says 1133 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:12,440 Speaker 1: he was spinning me like a gloat trotter. Now you know, 1134 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,400 Speaker 1: did you like hit her with the zigzag or do 1135 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,920 Speaker 1: were he super kicking her in bed? Like what are 1136 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,920 Speaker 1: you doing to these women that they need to with 1137 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:27,600 Speaker 1: you because of your you know, your your sexual desires 1138 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:28,200 Speaker 1: in the bedroom. 1139 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:34,040 Speaker 2: There's there's to know. I'm a I'm a useless vessel 1140 00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:34,920 Speaker 2: of nonsense. 1141 00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,640 Speaker 1: That's not what I'm hearing. Nick. I need to tell 1142 00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,919 Speaker 1: the people, lots of girls are wondering, and I said, 1143 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:42,319 Speaker 1: I get down to the bottom of it. 1144 00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,560 Speaker 3: I need to know you had me at bottom. 1145 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:50,600 Speaker 2: I don't think that. You know, everybody's a little bit 1146 00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:54,839 Speaker 2: different as I thought. We had a great time, yes, but. 1147 00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know you're a little more physical than the 1148 00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,480 Speaker 1: normal man, is what you're saying. You know what. I 1149 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:00,840 Speaker 1: don't know. 1150 00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,520 Speaker 3: I really haven't asked around, but I would say that. 1151 00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,279 Speaker 3: I just I don't know. I thought we had a 1152 00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:06,480 Speaker 3: good time. I'm right. 1153 00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,240 Speaker 1: That's that's why you're most wanted in this world. Okay, 1154 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,960 Speaker 1: a couple more things. Favorite band. 1155 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,040 Speaker 2: I always say Motley Crew, but Motley Crew, guns and Roses. 1156 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:20,440 Speaker 2: Hair metal mostly poison, hair metals up fun. Hair metal 1157 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,480 Speaker 2: stuff is one of my absolute favorite things to do, 1158 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:24,960 Speaker 2: especially gold my friends. 1159 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,440 Speaker 3: And just like dress. 1160 00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,520 Speaker 2: I still basically dress like I'm in the eighties anyway, 1161 00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,840 Speaker 2: but I'll jazz it up even more so at a little. 1162 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,560 Speaker 3: Hairspray to the hair before were the concert. But yeah, 1163 00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:38,600 Speaker 3: of course any eighties nineties hair metal stuff. Still love 1164 00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:40,799 Speaker 3: those guys. I listened to tell you where do you go? 1165 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:41,239 Speaker 2: Well? 1166 00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,480 Speaker 1: I when I work out, I listened to hair Metal 1167 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:49,080 Speaker 1: Nation Party because the party one there's no ballads. When 1168 00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,200 Speaker 1: I'm working out in a ballot comes on. It brings 1169 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:51,600 Speaker 1: me down. 1170 00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,520 Speaker 2: Gym in the gym, you can't have any ballads but 1171 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,279 Speaker 2: the party killer ballot when you're driving or something and 1172 00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,520 Speaker 2: it's okay on the windows and cry a little. 1173 00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:04,280 Speaker 1: Bit, absolutely a tear single tear falls down my favorite band, 1174 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:06,799 Speaker 1: and don't make fun of me. I'm an eighties girl 1175 00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:11,319 Speaker 1: through Duran. Duran is mine one hundred percent. I will 1176 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,080 Speaker 1: listen to them every day until I die. I love 1177 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,560 Speaker 1: me some John Taylor. I will marry him one day. 1178 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,440 Speaker 1: I don't care if he's on dreight, He's on my list. 1179 00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,160 Speaker 1: I will be his ex wife some day, I guarantee it. 1180 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,120 Speaker 3: Do you ever have that dream that if you're at one? 1181 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:29,200 Speaker 1: I have lots of dreams, lots of reach for those dreams. 1182 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,319 Speaker 3: I hope you. 1183 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:34,439 Speaker 2: Do you ever have the dream where you're like, this 1184 00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,480 Speaker 2: is the concert where he's gonna notice me and call 1185 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,200 Speaker 2: me up? Yeah, like. 1186 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:47,279 Speaker 1: I said, the spotlight, Oh sorry you mustn't I what's 1187 00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,920 Speaker 1: the glitched out for a second? No, I don't have that. 1188 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:50,960 Speaker 3: I don't have that dream. 1189 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:51,480 Speaker 2: No. 1190 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:52,440 Speaker 3: Never. 1191 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,840 Speaker 1: Maybe if I was eighteen, I who would have had it? 1192 00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,359 Speaker 2: If you ever like like, oh, this is the show, 1193 00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,440 Speaker 2: Like you know, I'm not my but like you guys 1194 00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,120 Speaker 2: go to wrestling shows. They're in the rocks business casual 1195 00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,200 Speaker 2: from the nineties. They got a title over their shoulder 1196 00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,800 Speaker 2: and their sidelight side. Now I get dressed for eighties 1197 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,319 Speaker 2: rock shows. I got my stonewash jeans, my sleeveless shirt 1198 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 2: and a headband. But I dress like that anyway. So 1199 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:16,200 Speaker 2: it's like not totally fair. You never went, and we're 1200 00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,799 Speaker 2: like they're gonna notice me. This is it, Like here 1201 00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:19,120 Speaker 2: we go. 1202 00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you. I've been to six 1203 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,040 Speaker 1: concerts my whole life. 1204 00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:28,720 Speaker 3: Okay, just six. I don't blank if you are locked 1205 00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:30,200 Speaker 3: in a closet somewhere. 1206 00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,440 Speaker 1: Twice for help. No, you know what my biggest fear 1207 00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,600 Speaker 1: is about going to a concert, Like I'll have to 1208 00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,080 Speaker 1: pee and I don't know where the bathroom is and 1209 00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,120 Speaker 1: then I can't get back to my seat. 1210 00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,760 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm a weirdo. Two things. 1211 00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,920 Speaker 2: No, not. When I'm booking tickets, I look for an 1212 00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:48,480 Speaker 2: aisle seat so I can go pee. 1213 00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,279 Speaker 1: Okay, because smart. 1214 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,840 Speaker 3: After one beer, I have to pee every quarter of 1215 00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:54,480 Speaker 3: a beer. 1216 00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:55,800 Speaker 1: Because you break the seal. 1217 00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:57,919 Speaker 2: So I got a hold of it. Yeah, but once, 1218 00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,600 Speaker 2: once it's broken, I'm ruined. So I to find the 1219 00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:04,560 Speaker 2: set list online, find some bullet points, like okay, okay, 1220 00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,960 Speaker 2: after a wild side, they're gonna do a little medley, 1221 00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:09,759 Speaker 2: so I can run in the bathroom there, okay. And 1222 00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,600 Speaker 2: then after girls girls girls that I know they're going 1223 00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,120 Speaker 2: into this uh cover that I don't like, so I 1224 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:16,000 Speaker 2: can run to the bathroom. 1225 00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:16,480 Speaker 3: I get it. 1226 00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:19,640 Speaker 2: I look for aisle seats, I time out bathroom breaks 1227 00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,680 Speaker 2: because once it's broken, I can't stop it. And if 1228 00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:24,120 Speaker 2: I'm going to one of those shows, I'm not not 1229 00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:25,200 Speaker 2: having thirty beers. 1230 00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:28,239 Speaker 3: So I gotta sing. I gotta be able to sing, 1231 00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,080 Speaker 3: so Vince Neil hears me on stage. 1232 00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:35,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, see that's what's the first concert you ever 1233 00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:36,279 Speaker 1: went to? 1234 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,320 Speaker 2: Uh, I'm glad you just asked. It just popped in 1235 00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,560 Speaker 2: my head, Michael Jackson when I was four years old 1236 00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:46,560 Speaker 2: old Jackson, here's all I remember. It's an outdoor venue. 1237 00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,600 Speaker 2: We were a million miles away, and I all the 1238 00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,080 Speaker 2: way off in the distance, it all the the stage 1239 00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,960 Speaker 2: went dark and the place went insane, and there was 1240 00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,160 Speaker 2: a spotlight and it was just him, like you know 1241 00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,920 Speaker 2: those like spotlight wood carving that people have up against 1242 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:01,840 Speaker 2: trees or by their houses. 1243 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:03,560 Speaker 1: It's like, oh yeah, like a silhouette. 1244 00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,800 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, just hit him sitting there and I heard 1245 00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:12,400 Speaker 2: shrieks like the Beatles on Ed Sullivan, like we're seeing 1246 00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,480 Speaker 2: my ears, like and I was so far away, so 1247 00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,239 Speaker 2: I can only just see like the like some guy 1248 00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,280 Speaker 2: with the hat tipped down and he threw a rose. 1249 00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,520 Speaker 3: And I'm a mile away. 1250 00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,000 Speaker 2: The first half mile of people all like you know 1251 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,480 Speaker 2: when someone throws the bouquet a wedding. Yeah, and now 1252 00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:27,200 Speaker 2: well in twenty twenty four and kind of stepped back, 1253 00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:33,920 Speaker 2: but they, like half of a concert arena jumped forward 1254 00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,840 Speaker 2: for a rose. And I can't believe that there was 1255 00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,520 Speaker 2: like Walmart Black Friday, like people being trampled to death. 1256 00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:43,759 Speaker 2: That's all I remember from that, but we were so 1257 00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,840 Speaker 2: far away. Anyway, I got the rose, there you go. 1258 00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:49,600 Speaker 2: That's all I remember for my first concert. And I 1259 00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,640 Speaker 2: was like, whoa, the people are crazy. And I think 1260 00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,280 Speaker 2: you wanted like Billy Jean or one of the songs 1261 00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:56,840 Speaker 2: that I knew even as a kid. I don't know 1262 00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,280 Speaker 2: what year, it's like eighty five, eighty six, but yeah, 1263 00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,520 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I know this, but. 1264 00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:06,239 Speaker 1: Mine was, Yeah, mine was Rick Springfield and I was 1265 00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,600 Speaker 1: like seven or eight, and I think I was I 1266 00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,759 Speaker 1: might have been in the very back row and we 1267 00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,640 Speaker 1: had horrible seats and the lady next to me, let 1268 00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,000 Speaker 1: me use your binoculars. That's the only thing I remember. 1269 00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,120 Speaker 3: That's the only thing I remember. 1270 00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:20,759 Speaker 1: But I remember. I was very young and that was 1271 00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:24,919 Speaker 1: my first concert. I did see Kiss and I wasn't 1272 00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:28,600 Speaker 1: even a fan until that night because I went with 1273 00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,879 Speaker 1: Shane Douglas. He's like, you're gonna come see Kiss. We went. 1274 00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:32,880 Speaker 1: It was in Baltimore. We had a press box. 1275 00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:34,680 Speaker 3: Oh nice, and uh. 1276 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:38,960 Speaker 1: He brought a big cooler and him and the other 1277 00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:43,319 Speaker 1: guys walked ahead and left me with the cooler and 1278 00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,480 Speaker 1: the guy's like, ma'am can you open And I'm shitting 1279 00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:49,480 Speaker 1: a brick because I'm like we had liquor and beers. 1280 00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,280 Speaker 1: I said, they're gonna throw me out and these guys 1281 00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,440 Speaker 1: have just left me here, and so I opened it. 1282 00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,920 Speaker 1: But we lined up coke kenes like on the top 1283 00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,399 Speaker 1: to cover everything, and they were like, yeah, you're good, 1284 00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:02,160 Speaker 1: hon and I was. 1285 00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:02,839 Speaker 3: Like, thank you. 1286 00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:05,680 Speaker 1: My heart was like because I never did that. I 1287 00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:07,319 Speaker 1: was like, what am I doing, you know, but we 1288 00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:09,919 Speaker 1: got in and that was That was a good one too, 1289 00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,840 Speaker 1: because I didn't even like kiss and now I love them, 1290 00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:13,800 Speaker 1: so that's awesome. 1291 00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:14,239 Speaker 3: That's good. 1292 00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:18,759 Speaker 2: I like adding a little terror beforehand to make it 1293 00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,279 Speaker 2: make you enjoy the concert that much more after it. 1294 00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:23,319 Speaker 1: I did enjoy it. It was a really good one. 1295 00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:24,640 Speaker 1: What's your favorite movie? 1296 00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:26,640 Speaker 3: Fletch? 1297 00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:30,759 Speaker 2: But it's also my favorite book? Okay, all right, are 1298 00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:32,160 Speaker 2: you old enough to remember Fletch? 1299 00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:38,600 Speaker 1: No, I'm not. My favorite movie is the nineteen sixty. 1300 00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:39,920 Speaker 3: Eight version of Romeo and Juliet. 1301 00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,160 Speaker 1: I can watch it a million times and cry every 1302 00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:48,720 Speaker 1: single I'm very tender hearted. I am. I'm a softy 1303 00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,480 Speaker 1: and I like romance. I love comedies, don't get me wrong. 1304 00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:56,080 Speaker 1: When I hear the narrator the first sentence, I cry 1305 00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,480 Speaker 1: because I know this, I know what the story is ill, 1306 00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,480 Speaker 1: and I'll watch it. I'm myself every time with a 1307 00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:02,240 Speaker 1: box of tissues. 1308 00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,239 Speaker 2: How often can you watch a movie that you've seen 1309 00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:04,880 Speaker 2: a million times? 1310 00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,520 Speaker 3: If I like sixteen Year once a month? 1311 00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:11,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, like sixteen Candles, I can watch whenever I can 1312 00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,520 Speaker 1: put it on that that move Jake Ryan, another guy 1313 00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,720 Speaker 1: I was supposed to marry, and fell through the. 1314 00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,120 Speaker 3: Cracks a long line. It's starting to be a long line. 1315 00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,840 Speaker 1: And he lives somewhere in Pennsylvania. He's a wood carver now, 1316 00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:26,200 Speaker 1: so I he was there, I just didn't find him 1317 00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:26,560 Speaker 1: in time. 1318 00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:28,240 Speaker 3: I'm very upset the one that got away. 1319 00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:32,040 Speaker 1: Yeah he is. But yeah, if I love the movie, 1320 00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,840 Speaker 1: I can watch it and recite it lip it, so 1321 00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,600 Speaker 1: I don't annoy anybody watching it with me. But the 1322 00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:40,320 Speaker 1: good one I just saw for the first time Goonies, 1323 00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:42,840 Speaker 1: Oh wow, okay, and I loved it. 1324 00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:47,480 Speaker 3: Man, I'm trying to think, oh man, I don't. 1325 00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:51,960 Speaker 1: Even funny roads story, something that you think back everything. 1326 00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:55,360 Speaker 2: So the first couple of years was just four of 1327 00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,880 Speaker 2: us or six of us sharing a hotel room in 1328 00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,479 Speaker 2: a minivan or something. So it was like and then 1329 00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:02,919 Speaker 2: you know, going out, but nothing crazy at anything crazy. 1330 00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:04,120 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be able to tell you right. 1331 00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:10,680 Speaker 2: Now anyway, a partner, yeah, or you know, wrest you know. 1332 00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:12,880 Speaker 1: Okay, if you're walked. 1333 00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,280 Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of something funny. I tell the 1334 00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,640 Speaker 2: story all the time, stand up wise. But it's just 1335 00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:20,520 Speaker 2: spirit squad. We were a bunch of young guys. 1336 00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:21,520 Speaker 3: We didn't know. 1337 00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:23,400 Speaker 2: I'm sorry we didn't what I didn't know what I 1338 00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,280 Speaker 2: was doing. But we're just trying to like bumping feed 1339 00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:29,000 Speaker 2: and be there for everybody and ask for your help afterwards. 1340 00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:32,760 Speaker 2: Or was everything okay, thank you, whatever's respectful guys. And 1341 00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:36,560 Speaker 2: we were working with Big Show and Kane and uh, 1342 00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:39,440 Speaker 2: we had just done something at wrestlemanis are doing the 1343 00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,360 Speaker 2: two week overseas tour that we always did after WrestleMania. 1344 00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,640 Speaker 2: It was and we're just kind of bumping around, just 1345 00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:46,720 Speaker 2: five of us getting beat up by two giants. It's 1346 00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,200 Speaker 2: Big Show and Kane and they're the tag champs and 1347 00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,360 Speaker 2: every night, you know, three nights in. I was like, 1348 00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:53,280 Speaker 2: we kind of got this down. Pat We're kind of 1349 00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,040 Speaker 2: we're always it's just us getting beat It's a long 1350 00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:58,840 Speaker 2: squash match, but we make it fun. We do some 1351 00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:00,800 Speaker 2: couple of guys who do cart and stuff or whatever. 1352 00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,000 Speaker 2: So we get to a point where I go, hey, 1353 00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,800 Speaker 2: would it be funny if, like, uh, you know, we've 1354 00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:07,360 Speaker 2: earned some respect for these guys. I'll do a little 1355 00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:09,000 Speaker 2: like a joke, like I'll put a sandwich in the 1356 00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,040 Speaker 2: middle of ring because we'll do our entrance first and 1357 00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:12,960 Speaker 2: then back then. We used to grab the mic and 1358 00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:14,960 Speaker 2: do like a dumb chair like I'm Jerry, I'm Larry 1359 00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,920 Speaker 2: or whatever the hell the names were so well, I 1360 00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:19,960 Speaker 2: wanted to do like a bugs bunny trap to where 1361 00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:21,600 Speaker 2: you take like the microphone with the because it's the 1362 00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:23,800 Speaker 2: long Court. This is twenty years ago sure, so you 1363 00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,000 Speaker 2: know it's not all digital mics, So that we lay 1364 00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:27,919 Speaker 2: like a big lasso in there. 1365 00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:29,520 Speaker 3: And I was like, that'll be funny, like maybe Big 1366 00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:31,840 Speaker 3: Show goes to get it. We'll catch him like we caught, 1367 00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:33,720 Speaker 3: We'll catch or something. 1368 00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:35,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and then I go and then we'll be 1369 00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,479 Speaker 2: like the the Marx Brothers and like we'll all hold 1370 00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,080 Speaker 2: the microphone and go to walk away, and we'll all 1371 00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:42,160 Speaker 2: fall down because he's such a big giant and he's 1372 00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:44,360 Speaker 2: so strong and we're idiot. 1373 00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:48,000 Speaker 3: The three stooges. So I put a sandwich in the 1374 00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:51,120 Speaker 3: middle ring. I do the giant lasso around it in 1375 00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,480 Speaker 3: the middle ring. We get out of there, Big Show 1376 00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:54,000 Speaker 3: picks it up. 1377 00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:58,520 Speaker 2: Uh goes to bite the sandwich like like for a joke, 1378 00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:01,680 Speaker 2: and like we catch him and he's like what, like 1379 01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:03,320 Speaker 2: we caught him for really? 1380 01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:05,440 Speaker 3: He's like what is this like? So he's you. 1381 01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:08,600 Speaker 1: Wouldn't tell him no, it was like a joke. 1382 01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:10,840 Speaker 2: So like when we caught him, we were all gonna fall 1383 01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,880 Speaker 2: but we didn't. He was just he was kind of 1384 01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:15,800 Speaker 2: mad about it already, so like we didn't get to it. 1385 01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,040 Speaker 2: Then he we Then we had to wrestle him, and 1386 01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:18,280 Speaker 2: it was. 1387 01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,080 Speaker 1: Oh, well, that would have been so fun if he 1388 01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:22,120 Speaker 1: took like a face pump while in the sandwich. 1389 01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:25,200 Speaker 2: We were all gonna go like we caught him and 1390 01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,680 Speaker 2: then we all fall down and it's like, yeah, us 1391 01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:28,520 Speaker 2: around and beat us up. 1392 01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:31,120 Speaker 3: But he wasn't happy about it. 1393 01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,680 Speaker 2: He got but yeah, but it was like it was 1394 01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:36,480 Speaker 2: a funny thing and we love Show. And then then 1395 01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:38,400 Speaker 2: we also got to a point where we were doing 1396 01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:43,040 Speaker 2: like a fake, like a prank version on WW where 1397 01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:46,200 Speaker 2: they would always prank people like Big Show or somebody else, 1398 01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:47,000 Speaker 2: and they'd send. 1399 01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:48,800 Speaker 3: Me out and be like, hey, Show, we're just messing 1400 01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:49,480 Speaker 3: with you, and he's. 1401 01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:52,960 Speaker 2: Like red and sweating and furious, and I'm like, sorry, buddy, 1402 01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:56,000 Speaker 2: I know, but this wasn't my idea. I got to 1403 01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:59,120 Speaker 2: a point where but you know, we Show and Kane, 1404 01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:02,440 Speaker 2: I love those guys. It was that we tried to 1405 01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:04,360 Speaker 2: do a rib one time and it didn't work out 1406 01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:08,800 Speaker 2: In our favor, and that was I'll stay out of 1407 01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:11,520 Speaker 2: all that stuff. Do you have any reasonable ones that 1408 01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:14,400 Speaker 2: aren't someone being roofied or thrown off a building or 1409 01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:17,880 Speaker 2: something like? Do you have any fun regular ones? Do 1410 01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:19,840 Speaker 2: I I know where you worked? 1411 01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:24,800 Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah, I mean you know they they didn't 1412 01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:28,120 Speaker 1: really do at least not to me. There wasn't really 1413 01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:31,480 Speaker 1: like hateful ribs like you hear a lot of like 1414 01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:36,080 Speaker 1: the hateful hazing. Our locker room didn't do stuff like that, 1415 01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,520 Speaker 1: Like I tell us one of the stories. It's been 1416 01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:42,520 Speaker 1: told so many times, but apparently you haven't heard it. C. W. Anderson. 1417 01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:47,680 Speaker 1: So he had a really bad like gag reflex, and 1418 01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:51,440 Speaker 1: he would get sick if like he saw either somebody 1419 01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:55,720 Speaker 1: you know, getting sick or defecating or something gross would 1420 01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,800 Speaker 1: make him one of the moment as well, And so 1421 01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:02,320 Speaker 1: we thought it would be We thought it would be 1422 01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:10,040 Speaker 1: funny if Tommy Dreamer stuck a brownie up his ass 1423 01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:14,680 Speaker 1: and uh pretended to like go to the bathroom in 1424 01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:17,520 Speaker 1: the middle of the locker room. But first of all, 1425 01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:20,320 Speaker 1: it was my brownie, and I was pissed because I 1426 01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,800 Speaker 1: wanted to eat the brownie. But I said, I'm a 1427 01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:26,000 Speaker 1: team player. You can have. I sacrificed my brownie for you. 1428 01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:28,560 Speaker 3: Know, I appreciate you said your cheat meal for another day. 1429 01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:30,880 Speaker 1: I did well. Oh back then, I ate like a 1430 01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,439 Speaker 1: p I ate whatever my metabolism was, so I didn't 1431 01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:37,080 Speaker 1: gain announce you know, I was super thin. But yeah, 1432 01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:39,000 Speaker 1: I so I gave my brownie. And and I just 1433 01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:44,000 Speaker 1: had learned recently in somebody reliving the story, they said 1434 01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:49,600 Speaker 1: that Tommy wrestled with the brownie. I don't remember him 1435 01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:52,440 Speaker 1: wrestling with that brownie. I thought he just stuck it up, 1436 01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:54,720 Speaker 1: as you know, up his bumb when he came to 1437 01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:58,560 Speaker 1: the back. But regardless, he had it up in his 1438 01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:02,640 Speaker 1: pants because he wore the big black pants. And what 1439 01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:06,400 Speaker 1: I think he was he was crouched over in the 1440 01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:10,040 Speaker 1: position like grunting, and they made me run and get 1441 01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:12,200 Speaker 1: c W and say, oh, you're needed in the room, 1442 01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:15,160 Speaker 1: and I pull him in the room. And then as 1443 01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:17,960 Speaker 1: soon as he comes in, the brown he literally plops 1444 01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:21,360 Speaker 1: out and like his ass is just bare ass, and 1445 01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:27,760 Speaker 1: he literally starts gagging and he threw up and it 1446 01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:30,440 Speaker 1: was it was just the brownie, and so you know 1447 01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:36,240 Speaker 1: it was just well, no, I really said I'll get 1448 01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:40,040 Speaker 1: another one. That wasn't borrow it, that wasn't my cup 1449 01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:42,920 Speaker 1: of tea. He probably he probably ate it afterwards because 1450 01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:45,880 Speaker 1: that's why he is. But I did not eat that story, 1451 01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:48,600 Speaker 1: thank you very much. But it was just stupid little 1452 01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:51,680 Speaker 1: dumb ribs that we did. You know, you would have 1453 01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:52,520 Speaker 1: loved our locker room. 1454 01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:52,760 Speaker 2: It was. 1455 01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:56,680 Speaker 1: It was a hoot. I know, and I appreciate that. 1456 01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:00,480 Speaker 1: This was so fun. Give us your social for those 1457 01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:02,680 Speaker 1: who live under a rock, where can people find you 1458 01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:05,560 Speaker 1: on social media? It's at they're one point three million 1459 01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:06,840 Speaker 1: followers or whatever you have. 1460 01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:09,520 Speaker 3: I please pay no attention to them. 1461 01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:11,920 Speaker 2: I know I have a bunch of because of where 1462 01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:14,720 Speaker 2: I worked, so I appreciate that. But they don't like 1463 01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:18,000 Speaker 2: to They don't you have one damn about my joke 1464 01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:18,880 Speaker 2: telling or anything else. 1465 01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:22,160 Speaker 3: They just funny see wrestling pictures. No, it's fine. I'm okay. 1466 01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:24,440 Speaker 3: So it's at nick nemmath and at Nick tmmoth am. 1467 01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:28,040 Speaker 2: I two, that's like, uh, it's Instagram is just for 1468 01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:29,400 Speaker 2: you know, checking out. 1469 01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:33,320 Speaker 3: Babes and for jokes and reading all my political news 1470 01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:36,040 Speaker 3: for the day. But yeah, I got nothing to promote. 1471 01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:39,040 Speaker 2: I we have some cool TNA pay per views and 1472 01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:41,680 Speaker 2: live events coming up that I'm really excited about. Like 1473 01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,040 Speaker 2: my brother and I we doing some stuff. Yeah, and 1474 01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:47,000 Speaker 2: I look forward to that more than anything. I'm the 1475 01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:48,680 Speaker 2: luckiest guy in the world. I've had a hell of 1476 01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:51,280 Speaker 2: a run. I'm just starting, just getting into the second one, 1477 01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:54,640 Speaker 2: and I love it. And uh, I'm glad I got 1478 01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:57,080 Speaker 2: to meet you a couple of months ago because, as 1479 01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:58,000 Speaker 2: I said, I was a fan. 1480 01:04:58,120 --> 01:04:58,720 Speaker 3: Let me read it. 1481 01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:02,280 Speaker 1: I was f I know we lost that feeling. I'm 1482 01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:04,120 Speaker 1: so You're. 1483 01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:06,960 Speaker 2: The best, You're the queen. We all love you, and 1484 01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:08,960 Speaker 2: we love what you did with ECW. I love what 1485 01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:09,520 Speaker 2: you're doing now. 1486 01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,760 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Yeah. So yeah, I won't even 1487 01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:15,120 Speaker 3: add a punchline waiting. 1488 01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:16,760 Speaker 1: For the I'm waiting for the bomb to drop. 1489 01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:19,440 Speaker 3: No, no, no, I'll wait till you're not recording and then 1490 01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:19,680 Speaker 3: I will. 1491 01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:22,680 Speaker 1: Okay, perfect, can't wait for that. I just want to 1492 01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:27,600 Speaker 1: plug really quickly. The Bash at Beckley June first in Beckley, 1493 01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:30,280 Speaker 1: West Virginia. For the first time ever, I'll be working 1494 01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:34,320 Speaker 1: with Brian Myers and the franchise Shane Doug. I know 1495 01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:36,640 Speaker 1: this has been I was supposed to work with them 1496 01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:38,480 Speaker 1: last year on the same show, and my flaight got 1497 01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:40,200 Speaker 1: canceled at the last minute. I couldn't make it. 1498 01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:43,080 Speaker 3: Just say you had a hair appointment. Nobody cares. 1499 01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:48,360 Speaker 1: Right, we can track, I can miss listen. I don't 1500 01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:49,160 Speaker 1: miss bookings. 1501 01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:52,480 Speaker 3: You book that people can't verify. 1502 01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:55,280 Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not a liar, Nick, I don't have that. 1503 01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:59,560 Speaker 1: I'm one of the good ones. Let me just tell 1504 01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:01,360 Speaker 1: normal and good you know, you know what? 1505 01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:03,480 Speaker 2: You know? What always makes h someone one of the 1506 01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:05,400 Speaker 2: good ones in a lifetime movie when they say they're 1507 01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:06,160 Speaker 2: one of the good ones. 1508 01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:11,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't like Lifetime movies. They're not my does 1509 01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:16,080 Speaker 1: somebody somebody does? But anyway, bash it, Beckley. Go to 1510 01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:19,280 Speaker 1: my Twitter ecw D for freeze and all the details 1511 01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:21,560 Speaker 1: will be on there. Nick, thank you so much. Looking 1512 01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:23,800 Speaker 1: forward to seeing you again somewhere down the line for 1513 01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:26,720 Speaker 1: every book together. We'll talk about that pairing up. 1514 01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:27,960 Speaker 3: Well, we'll get that team. 1515 01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:31,880 Speaker 1: I think it's money for the future. I mean, if 1516 01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:38,400 Speaker 1: you like money, I love money. I love money, and 1517 01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:41,680 Speaker 1: we only love money and food. Remember we've discussed that. 1518 01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:45,680 Speaker 3: That is very accurate and money on it. That's fine. 1519 01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:47,840 Speaker 1: We were supposed to wear matching outfit, so you didn't 1520 01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:50,560 Speaker 1: get the memo. You didn't wear your cut your cutout cleavage. 1521 01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:53,840 Speaker 3: Uh, but I have no pants on NEITHERM do I. 1522 01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:56,960 Speaker 1: So that's alright. So h everyone, I hope. 1523 01:06:56,760 --> 01:07:02,240 Speaker 2: You if you're saying safe, I hope you're saying healthy, 1524 01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:04,960 Speaker 2: and most of all, I hope you're saying extreme. 1525 01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:10,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1526 01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:12,160 Speaker 2: Oh oh. 1527 01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:17,760 Speaker 1: Francine Francis Francis, Queen Extreme Extreme. 1528 01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:24,520 Speaker 3: Odds up here head head the Queen Extreme Podcast. Odds 1529 01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:25,040 Speaker 3: up here. 1530 01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:28,320 Speaker 1: Heah, heah, it's the Queen Extreme Podcast. 1531 01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:32,200 Speaker 3: It's the Queen of Extreme. Ing in the legency is 1532 01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:33,080 Speaker 3: the woman nifty 1533 01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:35,040 Speaker 1: Dreams legend on the scene, franc Scene