Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three twelve, episode
Speaker 1: four of Guys.
Speaker 2: Wait, wasn't just three eleven?
Speaker 1: What's what's going on here? Oh? Somewhere in the mix
Speaker 1: that somebody came in the doc changed it to three twelve.
Speaker 1: This three eleven erasure? Yeah, will not stand. Okay, wait
Speaker 1: are we doing this?
Speaker 2: We're keeping this?
Speaker 1: I think we should keep it. Okay, there's a conspiracy
Speaker 1: to paper over yeah, season three eleven. Like it's the
Speaker 1: thirteenth floor elevator. Yeah, come on, super producer Victor apparently,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know we're gonna have to dig into
Speaker 1: his anti three eleven buy it? Anyways, I think? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so who knows when they crossed paths and wronged super
Speaker 1: producer Victor, But it definitely happened. Anyways. It's season three eleven,
Speaker 1: episode four of production of iHeart Radio. This is a
Speaker 1: podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness.
Speaker 1: That it is Thursday, November second, twenty twenty three. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: this is our first full leap after Halloween. Yeah, a
Speaker 1: happy day after Halloween? Yeah, you exactly are two days?
Speaker 1: But yes, you know.
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Speaker 2: it's National Devil deg Day. I'm with that national broadcast tour.
Speaker 1: Probably tied together a little bit, maybe the main course
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Speaker 2: And then also, oh, Jack, this was for you National
Speaker 2: Ohio Day and All Soul's Day. I don't know all
Speaker 2: I know it's All Saints Day and Day of the Dead.
Speaker 2: Oh this is apparently about Oh this is some religious
Speaker 2: about purgatory. And then to that, I say, who's to
Speaker 2: say this isn't purgatory?
Speaker 1: Aha? Uh huh? And happy all say is all Souls
Speaker 1: Day with your spirit. My name is Jack O'Brien.
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Speaker 1: and I'm thrilled to be joined by the way. That
Speaker 1: song it's my life. Usually when when there's a song
Speaker 1: that I have to do for an Aka four. I'll
Speaker 1: go back and listen, and I'm always like, man, that
Speaker 1: that song actually is really good, Like there's something about
Speaker 1: this production like that when I listened to it as
Speaker 1: a song really stands out and I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: there's some good song right this one? No such luck.
Speaker 1: I was like, what the fuck is jump On Jovie
Speaker 1: doing with his vocals and this ship. He's like he
Speaker 1: sounds like he's doing like a joke about like yarling voices.
Speaker 1: It sounds like he's like making fun of the singer
Speaker 1: of Nickelback. But anyways, we.
Speaker 2: Love you John, We love you Joanni.
Speaker 1: Thrilled to be joined as always by my co host
Speaker 1: mister Miles grad.
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Speaker 2: They were very clear They're like, we have nothing. First
Speaker 2: of all, what the fuck are y'all talking about? I
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Speaker 2: I remember I was about to go to three eleven
Speaker 2: show and I was like, wait, I just want to
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Speaker 1: Well Miles, we are thrilled to be joined by a
Speaker 1: wildly talented musician. Yeah, it's always fun to have a
Speaker 1: wildly talented musician on when we off key. I'm singing
Speaker 1: off key John b Joby covers about kissing my pants.
Speaker 3: Or the mouth trumpet. That was pretty good. The mouth trumpet.
Speaker 1: You are here with one of the best mouth trumpet
Speaker 1: tears in these United States. Wildly talented vocalist, songwriter, composer,
Speaker 1: whose most recent album was named among the best albums
Speaker 1: of the year by band Camp and The Sunday Times.
Speaker 1: She's performed on stages all over the world. YEP, now
Speaker 1: she's here listening to us sing badly. She's also the
Speaker 1: host of a podcast, radio series and live show called Movement.
Speaker 1: Please welcome the brilliantly talented mcleadella.
Speaker 2: Hell, what's up.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm so happy to be here with y'all today.
Speaker 1: So good to have you, so good to have you.
Speaker 2: How's how's the weather in the Bay Area. You're coming
Speaker 2: to us from the Bay correct?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean every day is more or less the same,
Speaker 3: like wake up in the upper fifties, in the about
Speaker 3: seventy by the end, you know, but and then cold
Speaker 3: at night.
Speaker 1: Did you grow up in the bank, No, I.
Speaker 3: Grew up in a lot of places. I grew up
Speaker 3: in like well, the long list. I can do it
Speaker 3: in one breath.
Speaker 1: Okay, we go, okay A.
Speaker 3: Dusseldorf, Washington, d C, Cedar, Rapids, Iowa, Iowa City, Iowa, Brooklyn, Jackensville, Gainesville, Miami,
Speaker 3: London for just a semester, but it was pretty formative.
Speaker 3: New have in Seattle and San Francisco almost twenty years. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: for twenty years now, almost twenty years, almost one years.
Speaker 1: So that's a that's a real testament to San Francisco
Speaker 1: stands out among the pack. I finally won you over
Speaker 1: after all that wandering, not Cedar Rapids with the Quaker
Speaker 1: factory there.
Speaker 3: I remember the Quaker factory. I absolutely remember that. No,
Speaker 3: we didn't. We didn't know anybody else in this whole
Speaker 3: country except my dad's college professor, and he said, come
Speaker 3: on out and live with us, and so we spent
Speaker 3: some time in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. It was very, very
Speaker 3: it was interesting.
Speaker 1: It was interesting, I'm sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, coming from Ethiopia to Iowa, that seems like a
Speaker 2: bit of a you're hitting the switch there and culture.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah.
Speaker 3: This is a sort of that sound over and over again.
Speaker 2: Yeah right right, record scratch, amazing.
Speaker 1: Your dad was presumably a good student. None of my
Speaker 1: college professors were ever like, come live with me.
Speaker 2: They're like, wait, you're the guy that was always smelling
Speaker 2: like two day old beer.
Speaker 1: Old beer. This guy who like seemed perpetually hungover. We
Speaker 1: were actually like wondering how it was medically possible that
Speaker 1: you were that hungover all the time? Wait, wasn't that
Speaker 1: everybody in college? I was? I was particularly bad, Like
Speaker 1: I didn't stand up very much because of how hungover
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 3: You had that extra lean in the seat like you
Speaker 3: were all the way back, like almost laying.
Speaker 2: Down almost fetal in one of those like lecture all chairs.
Speaker 3: I can see it now, I can see it now. Yes,
Speaker 3: my dad was a genius. He is he is a genius.
Speaker 3: He speaks six languages. He's like, he's he is truly
Speaker 3: truly amazing. That's very amazing person.
Speaker 4: Yeah amazing. Well, we only speaks one language, so yeah,
Speaker 4: sucks same. Yeah, and my dad only speaks Philadelphian.
Speaker 3: Wait what's Philadelphian?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: What is a phrase of Philadelphia sassage? You say sassage
Speaker 1: and should say wood, although my dad doesn't. I actually
Speaker 1: can't tell. Like sometimes people will be like, oh, your
Speaker 1: parents have like a Philadelphia accent, and I can't hear
Speaker 1: it because, like all other voices are built out of
Speaker 1: their voices in my brain. So I'm like, do they?
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, he he's pretty like he's not deep Philly, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: what's all how you doing? Let's get some wood?
Speaker 3: Yet?
Speaker 1: Yet?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 3: Wait, I literally have.
Speaker 2: Yet?
Speaker 1: Or like a.
Speaker 2: Ys is that Pittsburgh Pittsburgh?
Speaker 1: And people will tell you that Pittsburgh accents are very
Speaker 1: different from Philadelphia accents, and maybe if you are a
Speaker 1: lifelong connoisseur of the two, but there are some strain specifics,
Speaker 1: particulars of the Pittsburgh accent where they'll say anymore, they'll
Speaker 1: leave a hanging anymore that doesn't relate to anything. They'll say,
Speaker 1: do you guys eat anymore? Or something like that. It
Speaker 1: doesn't really make sense. But other than that, like it's
Speaker 1: very they're very similar. They are part of the same
Speaker 1: accent tree.
Speaker 2: Yeah, beautiful, lovely, most lovely accents. Yeah, your dad did
Speaker 2: call uh this podcast a jawn, I remember he's yeah,
Speaker 2: all right, Well, McClean, we are gonna get to know
Speaker 2: you a little bit better in a moment.
Speaker 1: First, we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things
Speaker 1: we're talking about today. Joe Biden has apparently created some
Speaker 1: guardrails around AI technology because he saw the latest Mission
Speaker 1: Impossible movie. Like, that's straight up what happened. Is the
Speaker 1: leader of the free world, folks, the leader of the
Speaker 1: free world, and his media diet included the most s
Speaker 1: reason Mission a Possible movie, and he was like, we
Speaker 1: gotta do something. And that is both amazing and also
Speaker 1: not uncommon at all for US presidents. So we're going
Speaker 1: to take a look back at some other policies that
Speaker 1: we got because of you know, just movies that president
Speaker 1: some dude saw something because they were just like something
Speaker 1: was on HBO no.
Speaker 2: Way character Matthew Broderck is playing I don't care get
Speaker 2: him up here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the genocidal rhetoric is getting more and more mainstream,
Speaker 1: and there there's just wild ship being said on on
Speaker 1: the fringes too, but like like Vivik Ramaswami, he said
Speaker 1: some some of the just fouls ship I've ever seen
Speaker 1: on like mainstream media outlets and kind of got away
Speaker 1: with it. And then there's just all sorts of shit
Speaker 1: happening and with like comedians and just like I don't know, Lindsay.
Speaker 2: Graham make it some really weird, very odd equivocations.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, talk about that. Just the Islamophobia is
Speaker 1: really out of control right now and no nobody really
Speaker 1: seems to want to talk about it, so we will.
Speaker 1: We'll also talk about Mariah Carey's newest video, ushering in
Speaker 1: the Christmas season.
Speaker 2: Love a segue like the unaddressed rampant Islamophobia in the
Speaker 2: United States and Mariah Carey, Yeah, oh silly excited Christmas.
Speaker 1: Shit, all of that plenty more, But before we get
Speaker 1: to it, mcleet. We do like to ask our guests,
Speaker 1: what is something from your search history?
Speaker 3: My search history right now is pretty much just music, music, music, music.
Speaker 3: I go down rabbit holes of music and cause it's
Speaker 3: like I'm always trying to find new immigrant musicians for
Speaker 3: the podcast. But if you think about it, like where
Speaker 3: do you find music? You find it in like certain
Speaker 3: you know, magazines or really from your friends like but
Speaker 3: the but I just go down rabbit holes. I just
Speaker 3: love going down rabbit hole. So I've I guess I
Speaker 3: was like, well, I think Instagram counts as like search history,
Speaker 3: So I was searching for like this wonderful Indian musician
Speaker 3: called Ganayeva. I've been looking at Alo Black and Leila
Speaker 3: Mcalla and just like I just go down rabbit holes
Speaker 3: of music. So that that's what I got for you.
Speaker 1: I thought I thought you were saying at first that
Speaker 1: your search history was literally music, music, music, music, and
Speaker 1: I was going to try that and see what I got.
Speaker 1: I'll try I'll test it out and let you guys
Speaker 1: know what the first result of.
Speaker 2: Right I've there, do you like, what do you when
Speaker 2: you say rabbit hole? Because like I kind of do
Speaker 2: the same thing when I'm like on a music app
Speaker 2: where sometimes if I like an artist and it says
Speaker 2: other artists like this, I just never stopped clicking those
Speaker 2: to see where it takes me because I was always like,
Speaker 2: I remember in the days of my Space, when I
Speaker 2: was really into a musician, and faithfully music pages on
Speaker 2: my Space, he be like, and my influences are, and
Speaker 2: they would just give you a huge block of names.
Speaker 2: I would always use that to kind of put me
Speaker 2: on to new stuff. But is that sort of what's
Speaker 2: your methodology here?
Speaker 3: I use the algorithms, but I also like to see
Speaker 3: who's friends with who. So you see people commenting on
Speaker 3: each other's posts a lot, right, And that's sort of
Speaker 3: interesting because I like the way that you see communities overlap.
Speaker 3: I'm like, who is interacting with whom, who's building community
Speaker 3: with whom?
Speaker 1: Like what?
Speaker 3: And then and then that leads me to a lot
Speaker 3: of other music as well.
Speaker 2: And then then from there you got to do a
Speaker 2: little background to be like, Okay, are you do you
Speaker 2: qualify in the Are you in the bracket of immigrant
Speaker 2: musician in another country? So yeah, I get, I get.
Speaker 2: I can see how the research can be exhausted.
Speaker 3: It's a lot of it's a lot of research, but
Speaker 3: it's fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Who's Who's someone that you stumbled upon that you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is one of the greatest musicians that I've completely
Speaker 2: had idea about.
Speaker 3: I think, well, let's see through that whole process. A
Speaker 3: little while ago, I stumbled onto an artist called Sancha
Speaker 3: and she's a Mexican singer.
Speaker 1: Based in La Okay.
Speaker 3: And she's like, she could be an opera singer, she
Speaker 3: could be like she's this like deep belting ranchera comes
Speaker 3: from this, like you know, drag queen background. I was
Speaker 3: just like, oh my god, I love you.
Speaker 2: Oh wha, yeah, okay son sa n c ha two words, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm checking this now.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I love It's like my favorite thing because there's nothing
Speaker 2: more like life affirming to hear music that excites you.
Speaker 1: You know. There's so many.
Speaker 2: Times like you hear things you're like, Okay, that's fine,
Speaker 2: that's fine, that's fine.
Speaker 1: But then you hear something you're.
Speaker 2: Like, I didn't know I was waiting to actually hear
Speaker 2: this and I couldn't articulate it, but here it is
Speaker 2: in front of me, and that is like, my It's
Speaker 2: the highest of the high.
Speaker 3: I agree, I agree, yes, indeed.
Speaker 1: And if you had searched me music music, music, music,
Speaker 1: you will come gotten music. Exclamation point music, exclamation point music,
Speaker 1: exclamation point. Put another nickel in? A popular song written
Speaker 1: by Steven Weiss and Bernie Baum and published in nineteen
Speaker 1: fifty was.
Speaker 3: Put a nickel in. I was gonna say, like nineteen fifteen, yeah.
Speaker 1: I know, put another nicchol in fella exactly. Yeah, But
Speaker 1: I guess this this was when they were just finding
Speaker 1: out about music. The song is just them for repeating music.
Speaker 1: This music. Holy cow. What's something you think is overrated?
Speaker 3: Front row seats?
Speaker 1: Mm?
Speaker 3: Because the sound is never good in the front row.
Speaker 3: It's never ever good. The speakers are in front, speakers
Speaker 3: are almost right in, like above you, so the sound
Speaker 3: doesn't come to you. And you're like, yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: I'm being showered by the spit of the singer and
Speaker 3: that's you know, one thing right, But that doesn't sound
Speaker 3: that good. So I think front seats are over front
Speaker 3: row seats are overrated.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got COVID from Beyonce, but man, the low
Speaker 4: end was really all muddled though from the seats. I
Speaker 4: don't know why I think I was right underneath the
Speaker 4: PA system.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think, yes, knowing about acoustics or sonic,
Speaker 2: you know this, the the way sound moves is so
Speaker 2: like vital to especially going to like a big time,
Speaker 2: like a huge festival, because a lot of times you'll
Speaker 2: see people try and get as close to the front
Speaker 2: as they can, but you know how they'll be like
Speaker 2: rows of speakers to.
Speaker 1: Like sound systems to like facilitate the crowd.
Speaker 2: I'm like, don't go there like you're not gonna you're
Speaker 2: gonna hear the worst version of this, like get in
Speaker 2: front of those speakers so you're getting you can actually
Speaker 2: hear it.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm always I'm always.
Speaker 2: Pleasantly surprised to see how people are like just going
Speaker 2: there while leaving like the parts that the areas that
Speaker 2: sound good available to other people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so do you notice do you notice that when
Speaker 1: you're up on stage, like the people down front are
Speaker 1: just there to like try and catch a drop of your sweat,
Speaker 1: So I don't want to be near you.
Speaker 2: But they all have that like that for the wrong reason.
Speaker 2: They got a listening horn though, from like the eighteen
Speaker 2: hundreds to be like this is how I make it
Speaker 2: sound good because I'm too put.
Speaker 1: A nickel in it, say music music hot, damn.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: We we're all performers here, We've all been on stage,
Speaker 1: but what I have never been a musician performing around
Speaker 1: the world on stages around the world. Are there any
Speaker 1: things that you notice, like about you know, how people
Speaker 1: are transported, like how you know other than like this
Speaker 1: is very this is great information that like front row
Speaker 1: seats at concerts are overrated. I've never gone and sat
Speaker 1: in the front road of concert, so this makes me
Speaker 1: feel very confident about all my decisions and stinginess up
Speaker 1: to this point. But anything else that you can tell
Speaker 1: us just as a as a bet, as someone who's
Speaker 1: been there making music that is moving people.
Speaker 3: I think, you know the I think the thing that's
Speaker 3: coming to my mind is like I think the audience
Speaker 3: doesn't really like audiences don't fully understand how much of
Speaker 3: an impact they can have on the show, Like an
Speaker 3: audience is. You know, there's all different kinds of audiences,
Speaker 3: And you start to notice over time you've been when
Speaker 3: you've been to different cities over and over again, like
Speaker 3: different cities start to have different characters. So like, you know,
Speaker 3: New York audience is like so used to so much music,
Speaker 3: Like they're like, okay, you got to prove it to me, right,
Speaker 3: you know, so you have a lot of more root
Speaker 3: work to do up top. But if you go to
Speaker 3: an audience in like Montreal, they are just like like
Speaker 3: it's the difference between an audience saying the same words,
Speaker 3: show me what you can can do. But a Montreal
Speaker 3: audience will be like, show me what you could do,
Speaker 3: and a New York audience will be like, okay, showing
Speaker 3: what you can do.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: But like the way that you the way that you
Speaker 3: give as an audience member, can totally like up the show,
Speaker 3: Like you can make the same show ten times better
Speaker 3: by putting your own kind of energy into the mix,
Speaker 3: you know, so because then when you start to feed
Speaker 3: off that from the stage, it just amps the whole
Speaker 3: thing up and makes it more joyful. So I would say,
Speaker 3: like the thing that is also underrated is like hootin'
Speaker 3: and hollering from jump, Like you do that and you're
Speaker 3: gonna get a better experience.
Speaker 2: Right yeah, and moving your But like I know in
Speaker 2: La too, like playing shows in La and like a
Speaker 2: lot of in the West Coast too, but La, especially
Speaker 2: there is like a there's a cool factor too if
Speaker 2: you're playing a show and the crowd does not know
Speaker 2: your work and it is very it almost feels like
Speaker 2: arms are crossed where they're like cause so many people
Speaker 2: too are also like in bands in the audience.
Speaker 1: Like louse, you're just just better than what the folk
Speaker 1: I can do.
Speaker 2: And then but the best thing is like when people
Speaker 2: just move, you know what I mean, even if you
Speaker 2: can't if you don't want to hoot and holler, just
Speaker 2: a head nod, just being but uncrossing your arms. That
Speaker 2: body language too. It does a lot for people for sure.
Speaker 1: How do us audiences compared like it kind of in
Speaker 1: the middle or are they.
Speaker 3: Oh, like like a Chicago audience is like a Montreal audience.
Speaker 3: But I think the difference is like like if you're
Speaker 3: performing in Ethiopia or like when I performed in Egypt
Speaker 3: and things like that. You know, the idea there is
Speaker 3: they will clap and you know, express themselves when it's
Speaker 3: when it touches them and so they will tell you
Speaker 3: they are like your living pulse on when you as
Speaker 3: an artist are in a place that is like you
Speaker 3: know that like electric place with a little bit of
Speaker 3: sparkle and an extra kind of vibe like they will say,
Speaker 3: there it is, I saw it. Now keep going there,
Speaker 3: and it's like a so it's it just it just
Speaker 3: it helps to bring the whole thing into ah, you know,
Speaker 3: a flow, a flow state.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, we talk about that all the time. Shut
Speaker 2: out me, Hi chick sent me high Okay, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's the neurologys to.
Speaker 1: Yea and I remember we did. We did a whole episode.
Speaker 2: He's the neurologist who are like, yeah, yeah, like finding flow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of research into flow state and how
Speaker 1: to achieve that. Yeah. I just I feel like the
Speaker 1: US probably has a little bit harder of a time.
Speaker 1: We were just talking about this with relation to the
Speaker 1: similarities between being sleep depraved and having like alcoholic beverages,
Speaker 1: Like you're killing, you're making, you're you're wearing out that
Speaker 1: inner like break pusher, the thing that pushes the brakes
Speaker 1: and is like constantly on you being like don't move
Speaker 1: your body like that. People people behind you were probably
Speaker 1: watching you and judging. You know, you're on TikTok now,
Speaker 1: yeah exactly, but yeah that's cool. What's uh, what's something
Speaker 1: you think is underrated?
Speaker 3: Okay? Two things stovetop espresso, which I think is just
Speaker 3: like the percolators. They're just great.
Speaker 2: Oh that metal thing, right, yeah yeah, the metal thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I think there.
Speaker 3: I think they're I think it's better than French press.
Speaker 3: I think it's better than a pour over. You know,
Speaker 3: it might not be better than like one hundred year
Speaker 3: old French machine or something, but I think it's the
Speaker 3: best juga too, you know. And then the other thing
Speaker 3: I like that I think is underrated are the cheapy
Speaker 3: headphones that you get from flight attendants on flights because
Speaker 3: they always come in handy at the exact time when
Speaker 3: you can't find your other shit. Oh, it's like you're like,
Speaker 3: wait a minute, I have one of these in my purse,
Speaker 3: and then like you need it and you have it,
Speaker 3: and those are my two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's from I'm like such a headphone nerd. Like
Speaker 2: I'm like, I got my own cans, thank you so much,
Speaker 2: because the fidelity is way too fucked up from my ears.
Speaker 2: But hey, maybe maybe my mother would like it because
Speaker 2: she doesn't care about how shit sounds.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it is.
Speaker 2: I never thought of it as like sort of like
Speaker 2: having like a package of Kleenex or something too where
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, headphones, wait, I got I know. I
Speaker 2: have a pile of them from every flight I go
Speaker 2: on exactly Now I will be less stuck up, and
Speaker 2: I will accept them gleefully.
Speaker 3: You just take them as your backup, right right.
Speaker 1: Some of them break like one and a half uses
Speaker 1: into a life cycle, but sometimes like that, that's not
Speaker 1: a rule, and sometimes they'll last you a year. You know,
Speaker 1: they'll just be you get the the real ones that
Speaker 1: U are able to kind of stick together. I thought
Speaker 1: stuff Top Espresso was the stuff Top Stuffing brand expanding
Speaker 1: into the world espresso. So I'm very glad to hear
Speaker 1: that that's not what's happening.
Speaker 2: Just add water to like the powder there it is,
Speaker 2: and microwave it.
Speaker 3: My god, you thought I mean Ethiopian.
Speaker 2: I would never serious about the coffee.
Speaker 1: That's that's where my American brain went. Of course, of course,
Speaker 1: of course, so it's probably comes in a box, the
Speaker 1: stuff Top Espresso. It's like, what isle is that in?
Speaker 1: Where do I find that? All right, Well, let's uh,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll come back and
Speaker 1: talk about presidents creating foreign policy based on some movies
Speaker 1: they just saw and we're back and yeah, So earlier
Speaker 1: this week, Biden signed an executive order establishing new guardrails
Speaker 1: around AI technology. I remember like when when it happened,
Speaker 1: it being like now really like this is this is
Speaker 1: what you're I mean? Yes, AI is like was a
Speaker 1: big story a few months back, and there's definitely a
Speaker 1: lot going on there and we need to be keeping
Speaker 1: our eye on it. But this is just like the
Speaker 1: timing seemed weird, like as there's this horrifying war happening
Speaker 1: being waged by US ally Israel and being funded and
Speaker 1: armed by by the US, and he's like, so this
Speaker 1: AI stuff, am I right?
Speaker 2: So what about student loan? Student loan forgive?
Speaker 1: According to Joe, this was partly due to someone showing him,
Speaker 1: first of all, a deep fake of himself of himself,
Speaker 1: to which he responded, when the hell did I say that?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 3: Hey you laughing? So I don't cry, I know.
Speaker 2: And it's but the thing is, it's so it's so
Speaker 2: believe it's you just know that happened, like I don't
Speaker 2: even know, like you know, like one night when nice
Speaker 2: did I say that?
Speaker 1: Well, and he's doing it as like a folkesy like
Speaker 1: thing where He's like, thing was so good, fooled me me.
Speaker 1: But it's like, yeah, but right now you are struggling
Speaker 1: with our ability to believe that you can hold it together,
Speaker 1: so you can't make self effacing jokes in that tenor
Speaker 1: right now, like we need you to just shit together
Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, he didn't say exactly what deep
Speaker 1: fake it was, but I do hope that it was
Speaker 1: the one where he and Vladimir Putin are playing in
Speaker 1: olymp biscuit cover band. But we just don't know.
Speaker 2: What the hell did I say? I did it all
Speaker 2: for the nookie, so I can.
Speaker 1: Take that cookie.
Speaker 2: What is this?
Speaker 1: But then, according to Deputy White House Chief Bruce Reid,
Speaker 1: who I feel like has to be on Biden's shitlist
Speaker 1: for this one. So part of Biden's concern over a
Speaker 1: I came after he watched Mission Impossible, Mission Colon Impossible,
Speaker 1: m Dash, Dead Reckoning Part one. They did not put
Speaker 1: a call in between Dead Reckoning Part one because too many,
Speaker 1: too much punctuation, but it probably should be there. At
Speaker 1: Camp David, he was like, yeah, I watched it with him, man,
Speaker 1: and he turned to me and was like, oh.
Speaker 2: No, And then I got a lot of movies to
Speaker 2: show Joe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, are you sure this wasn't an Onion article, right?
Speaker 1: I know? Yeah too real. So this is a movie
Speaker 1: in which Tom Cruise battles a computer that can literally
Speaker 1: see into the future, and obviously a lot of people
Speaker 1: are like Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Jojo. The quote
Speaker 1: from Reid, which this is the quote that I feel
Speaker 1: like gets his ass fire. If he hadn't already been
Speaker 1: concerned about what could go wrong with AI before that movie,
Speaker 1: he saw plenty more to worry about, said Reid, who
Speaker 1: watched the film with Biden. So you have watched it
Speaker 1: with him and was like, oh, yeah, man, he was.
Speaker 1: He was shaking.
Speaker 2: You think he was doing that thing like like black
Speaker 2: people do when they watch a movie, like grabbing each
Speaker 2: other and pushing each other the fuck. What the fuck's
Speaker 2: going on here? He's like, Oh, sir, it's it's it's
Speaker 2: just chat box right now. It's not doing this shit
Speaker 2: quite yet.
Speaker 1: I do. This does concern me because the version in
Speaker 1: his brain that he is, you know, passing legislation against
Speaker 1: we're trying to address, is the version of AI that
Speaker 1: the heads of the companies who do who are creating this,
Speaker 1: and you know, putting the money into this and releasing
Speaker 1: the products that are using this. This is the version.
Speaker 1: This is the danger they want us to believe him, Like,
Speaker 1: this is the one they're always talking about, and so
Speaker 1: it's probably not the one we actually need to worry about, right,
Speaker 1: you know, it's like they want it to be. They're like,
Speaker 1: we're guys, we're playing with fucking dynamite over here. This
Speaker 1: thing is gonna turn into the T one thousand, so
Speaker 1: you better watch out, and you also better be nice
Speaker 1: to us because we have immense power. And he seems
Speaker 1: to be like, yeah, I saw the movie. Man, I
Speaker 1: got that presidential debriefing, if you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But I see the light exactly exactly. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean Lewis Fertel tweeted imagining Biden watching Mission Impossible, tilting
Speaker 1: his head to the sky and yelling fuck. But this is,
Speaker 1: of course, far from the first time that a president
Speaker 1: has used a dumb movie as justification for policy. A
Speaker 1: far more reprehensible time was the time that Trump was
Speaker 1: using scenes from Sikario two in order to defend his
Speaker 1: border wall.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was like, the cars, they're just supercars.
Speaker 1: They go faster than they're faster than our police.
Speaker 2: The jet Yeah, it's like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 2: They go faster than the police cars. And everyone's like,
Speaker 2: do you know what movie came out over the holiday
Speaker 2: break that he probably just saw. It's a Car EO
Speaker 2: two where they had jet powered fucking smuggler cars.
Speaker 1: Yes, of course, of course, and he had the He
Speaker 1: probably just saw the the jet powered cars like he.
Speaker 1: Trump is famously the guy who had like all the
Speaker 1: boring scenes edited out of like blood Sport, so not
Speaker 1: a movie known for like its long periods of exposition,
Speaker 1: but he was like, this is this is too boring,
Speaker 1: Just get to the fights. But the king of this
Speaker 1: shit was not surprisingly because he was an actor and
Speaker 1: probably should have remained one. Ronald Reagan, who not unlike Biden,
Speaker 1: was way too old to have his job and also
Speaker 1: not onlike Biden, screened a popular movie at Camp David
Speaker 1: and promptly freaked the fuck out. That movie was War Games,
Speaker 1: the eighties thriller starring Matthew Broderick. I don't know if
Speaker 1: it was follow up to Ferris Bueller's Day Off or yeah, well,
Speaker 1: Firris Bueller's Day Off was a follow up to this,
Speaker 1: but it's about a teenager who hacks into government supercomputer,
Speaker 1: and Reagan brought it up at a White House meeting,
Speaker 1: asking the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Uh, well,
Speaker 1: could something like this really happen? Well, that's well, is
Speaker 1: the only word I can say, Like Ronald reckon, unfortunately,
Speaker 1: but this actually true. This led to a revamp of
Speaker 1: US cybersecurity policies, and clips from war games were even
Speaker 1: shown at congressional hearings.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, what I just yeah liked, Like, don't believe me.
Speaker 2: Look at this freaky clip of Matthew Broaderick in a
Speaker 2: movie story. Yeah, so this is not real. However, this
Speaker 2: is the basis for this legislation.
Speaker 1: So yes, even Matthew Broderick, the kid who could back
Speaker 1: into his principal's computer and change his grades. I couldn't
Speaker 1: get a hold of this. Yeah.
Speaker 2: He just identifies Matthew Broderick as like a person of interest, like,
Speaker 2: you know, like being a potential criminal. He's like, I've
Speaker 2: seen enough, take.
Speaker 1: This guy down. He was apparently a huge fan of
Speaker 1: the fifties alien movie The Day of the Earth stood
Speaker 1: Still and believed that the US and the USSR would
Speaker 1: certainly resolve their differences and unite if only aliens invaded.
Speaker 1: And he literally brought this theory up during a meeting
Speaker 1: with Gorbachev, Like.
Speaker 3: Wow, and Gorbachev is just doing his best to keep
Speaker 3: it together.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like probably looking around the room like he's like
Speaker 2: like looking at his interpreter again, He's like, hold on
Speaker 2: one more time. He said, what the fucking uh? Yes, see,
Speaker 2: we know that I think we could be friends.
Speaker 4: Huh when we.
Speaker 3: Know that movies have like this proportionate effect on our narratives,
Speaker 3: but you don't think that it's going to be so literal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like we shouldn't look there are a lot
Speaker 1: of ways that like the young and the old overlap,
Speaker 1: and you know, I know that I shouldn't show my
Speaker 1: five year old Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning Part one, And
Speaker 1: maybe we should start thinking about what media we allow
Speaker 1: the president to see because he just might not be
Speaker 1: ready for it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we're fuck it man, Like if there's
Speaker 2: some like shows man bluie rogue progressives in that administration
Speaker 2: to be like, I don't know you said this shit
Speaker 2: where he's like, yeah, so we're gonna fully fund Medicare
Speaker 2: for all, Like I'm going all in on gun control.
Speaker 2: We're doing a fault weapons band, like you said this shit, Joe. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and he's like, okay, oh yeah, okay, that's true, that's true.
Speaker 1: That's right. Yep, yep, yep. I'm yeah. We got to
Speaker 1: create a media diet, like a movie playlist for his ass,
Speaker 1: you know, because he is clearly very open to suggestion. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if anybody has a you know, some suggestions on what
Speaker 1: we should put on the Joe Biden movie playlist, hit
Speaker 1: us up. Yeah, because we do have a direct line
Speaker 1: to the White House, so yeah, we have access to
Speaker 1: the plex server.
Speaker 2: They use a camp dare, so we can just put
Speaker 2: that shit right in there. And he's thinking, he's watching
Speaker 2: a rerun of The Simpsons and it's about to be
Speaker 2: some heavy shit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we can get Matthew Broderick to hack in there.
Speaker 2: Biden's like, who did this Broaderick?
Speaker 1: He also Reagan also famously got his Strategic Defense Initiative
Speaker 1: idea aka star Wars from Citizens Advisory Council on National
Speaker 1: Space Policy, which was led by two sci fi authors
Speaker 1: and a lot of people speculated the idea for star Wars,
Speaker 1: which was like a massive failure. He was like, we're
Speaker 1: going to put weapons in space that can like shoot
Speaker 1: down nuclear weapons from outer space. And they were like,
Speaker 1: the technology for that's like one hundred two hundred years away.
Speaker 1: And he was like, well do it.
Speaker 2: Let's let's go.
Speaker 1: And so they did it, and people were like, oh,
Speaker 1: he was in this movie called Murder in the Air,
Speaker 1: which is a nineteen forty spy adventure about a magic
Speaker 1: machine that protected the United States from air attack. So
Speaker 1: that's where that's coming from. And he spent trillions. Damn.
Speaker 2: They should show Joe Biden the creator then he really
Speaker 2: wants to go.
Speaker 1: Creator would be good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what we need.
Speaker 1: More death from above. Yeah, oh yeah, he just sides
Speaker 1: with the US.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like exactly, so we got to build that.
Speaker 1: I like the first part, man, I like yeah, I
Speaker 1: like that part.
Speaker 2: The character Reagan Place was called Brass Bancroft. These names, yes,
Speaker 2: so fucking wild broke.
Speaker 1: Fuck yeah why notft? Yes, sir, Good for you man,
Speaker 1: Good for you for you man. Love it all right,
Speaker 1: let's talk real quick about some of the horrifying rhetoric
Speaker 1: that we're seeing. It's becoming mainstream, you know. While Joe
Speaker 1: Biden continues to be soft on net and Yahoo and
Speaker 1: just basically co signed the slaughter of Palestinian people. The
Speaker 1: rhetoric is getting just fucking out of hand and islamophobic
Speaker 1: and incredibly dangerous.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like, at best, woefully disconnected from humanity and
Speaker 2: at worst absolutely homicidal. And I just want to point
Speaker 2: out two remarks I've heard in the last few days.
Speaker 2: So Vivid Ramaswami, who's struggling to remain relevant in the
Speaker 2: presidential primary, he spoke to the Republican Jewish Coalition in
Speaker 2: Las Vegas and said, quote and he said quote, if
Speaker 2: Israel and Massad want to take out every last leader
Speaker 2: of Hamas wherever they may be hiding, from Doha to Dresden,
Speaker 2: host a red wedding at the Four Seasons and cutter
Speaker 2: the next time the leaders are in town, they should
Speaker 2: go ahead and do it. And we're like, I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: are we using Game of Thron's rhetoric here?
Speaker 1: The huh?
Speaker 2: Then he went on Pierce Morgan's show and said that
Speaker 2: I would love nothing more than for the IDF forces
Speaker 2: or the IDF to put the heads of the top
Speaker 2: one hundred Hamas leaders on spikes and line them up
Speaker 2: on the Israel Gaza border as a sign that October
Speaker 2: seventh will never happen again. That was even too much
Speaker 2: for Pierce Morgan somehow, what was like, Uh, what he's like?
Speaker 2: That just sounds like pouring fuel on an out of
Speaker 2: control fire, Like what do you like? And also these
Speaker 2: are war crimes, like we're really raw raying this stuff
Speaker 2: for clout and just very like I don't know what
Speaker 2: the reaction was in the room, but I guess maybe
Speaker 2: he's maybe I don't know if he has like a
Speaker 2: Game of Thrones based foreign policy and everything is going
Speaker 2: to be put through that lens as he tries to
Speaker 2: connect with voters or something. But again, wild wild things
Speaker 2: to say as someone who is in pursuit of the
Speaker 2: White House. Then there was Lindsey Graham. He was on
Speaker 2: CNN two nights ago and essentially said that the number
Speaker 2: of civilian casualties should not deter Israel by any stretch
Speaker 2: of the imagination. Let me play this for you really quick,
Speaker 2: Savine character, is.
Speaker 6: There a threshold for you? And do you think there
Speaker 6: should be one for the United States government? And which
Speaker 6: the US would say, let's hold off for a second
Speaker 6: in terms of civilian casualties Is there a point at
Speaker 6: which you would start to question a lot?
Speaker 5: If somebody asked us after World War two, is there
Speaker 5: a limit what you would do to make sure that
Speaker 5: Japan and Germany don't conquer the world. Is there any
Speaker 5: limit what Israel should do to the people who are
Speaker 5: trying to slaughter the Jews. Answers, No, there is no limit.
Speaker 5: But here's what you need to do. Be smart. Let's
Speaker 5: try to limit savine casualties the best we can't. Let's
Speaker 5: put humanitarian aid in areas that protect Danisent.
Speaker 2: I'm all for that anyway. So he goes on to
Speaker 2: be like it's wild to say there is no limit,
Speaker 2: but also like you got to be careful. It's like
Speaker 2: you can't have that both ways. First of all Instagram,
Speaker 2: And also how are you likening the Axis powers of
Speaker 2: World War two to the Gaza strip?
Speaker 1: Right? Like?
Speaker 2: Where what on earth are you talking about? And these
Speaker 2: are the people that have they have votes, you know,
Speaker 2: to decide what our foreign policy is. And he's out
Speaker 2: here casually saying this kind of stuff. I mean, this
Speaker 2: is it's just so it's just wild to see because
Speaker 2: I feel like I think like many people were like
Speaker 2: in some kind of Twilight Zone where like I feel
Speaker 2: like we're they're like a lot of these politicians are
Speaker 2: using this dusty ass propaganda playbook to manufacture consent for
Speaker 2: further military action when so many people, myself included because
Speaker 2: I was I was coming of age during the Second
Speaker 2: Iraq War that I remember how everything was like, don't matter,
Speaker 2: We're going in there and everybody's getting messed up. You
Speaker 2: saw nine e you saw nine you saw nine eleven,
Speaker 2: And that same way of like pointing to this like
Speaker 2: this event to then say now everything's on the table
Speaker 2: is horrifying, especially now because we live in an era
Speaker 2: where you can see what the actual the the results
Speaker 2: are of this kind of rhetoric.
Speaker 1: And democrats y'all.
Speaker 2: Are also doing a terrible job. The best I'm hearing
Speaker 2: are forceful call calls for a humanitarian pause.
Speaker 1: I mean, you even heard it in the CNN interview.
Speaker 1: The thing that she's trying to get Lindsay Grahant or
Speaker 1: just asking Lindsay Graham, like the humane position is would
Speaker 1: the US or would Israel stop for a Secondly? I
Speaker 1: believe she literally said for a second.
Speaker 2: Right, Like, well, the and the rhetoric that you know,
Speaker 2: you see like from a lot of the defense, like
Speaker 2: the Hawks in Congress is sort of like, well, any
Speaker 2: pause allows them to build up munitions or fortify their positions,
Speaker 2: and it's like, I'm sorry, they are not out here
Speaker 2: to take over the world. Like I get how maybe
Speaker 2: in the forties you're like, this is what it's trying
Speaker 2: to do. He's trying to take over the fucking world.
Speaker 2: But this is not this situation by any stretch of
Speaker 2: the imagination, and to liken it to that further dehumanizes
Speaker 2: these people and allows for this kind of shit to continue.
Speaker 2: And like everything, I feel like there's such an outsized
Speaker 2: emphasis on what is happening with the Jewish people who
Speaker 2: are living around the world. And I completely understand that
Speaker 2: seeing groups of Jewish people be senselessly slaughtered is horrifying
Speaker 2: and will put you in a position like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: this is bringing back all kinds of things, because this
Speaker 2: is something that is very relevant to the history of
Speaker 2: my people. But I don't see a single thing that's
Speaker 2: really actually centering what the experience is for Muslim people,
Speaker 2: for Arab people, for other people who just might see
Speaker 2: their situation unfolding in a very similar way that it
Speaker 2: is in Gaza and the West Bank and I meanwhile,
Speaker 2: you have people like Lindsay Grahm comme on. They're like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's all good man, like it doesn't matter how many
Speaker 2: civilians die, or Vivic Ramaswami being like yeah, call me
Speaker 2: George R. R. Martin with it Like no.
Speaker 3: I mean the dehumanization, the devaluation of Palestinian life is
Speaker 3: just unbelievable. And it's like you want him humanitarian aid. Yes,
Speaker 3: we need humanitarian aid. Turn all the water, turn on
Speaker 3: the first thing, give people clean Like that seems like
Speaker 3: an act that you could take in a heartbeat. In
Speaker 3: a second, they.
Speaker 1: Claim they turned on the water, but all the pipes
Speaker 1: they bombed everything, so you can't fucking yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, and not to mention that like some of the
Speaker 2: pumps require energy to move the water, and if there's
Speaker 2: no electricity or fuel, then what And it's just wild
Speaker 2: how you start that thing, you know, right exactly, like
Speaker 2: using a siphoning hose or something to move water around.
Speaker 2: And the it's just wild to see that the like
Speaker 2: the hammer come down on people who have out loud
Speaker 2: just called for things like a ceasefire. Yes, And I
Speaker 2: think that's really it just shows you where like the
Speaker 2: momentum of where this thing is going, and like where
Speaker 2: what the media is just allowing it to be too,
Speaker 2: Like I mean, I'm slowly starting to see more like
Speaker 2: diverging opinions be represented on TV. But these first couple
Speaker 2: of weeks it felt like, bro, don't even say anything
Speaker 2: about Palestinian people, don't even try it. And that is
Speaker 2: so so disheartening too, because after seeing what this country
Speaker 2: went through or tried to have a reckoning with white
Speaker 2: supremacy in twenty twenty and seemingly thinking like we understood
Speaker 2: what oppression was, like we get to this one and
Speaker 2: now we've gone completely in just outer space with it.
Speaker 2: And that's what's really I think messes a lot of
Speaker 2: people up because they're like, of course, innocent Israeli civilians
Speaker 2: don't deserve to be killed, but how are we now
Speaker 2: just acting like those those destroyed buildings don't have human
Speaker 2: beings under the rubble, don't have screams coming out from
Speaker 2: under there, that are actual legitimate human beings that had
Speaker 2: nothing to do with what happened on October seventh.
Speaker 3: And children have nothing to the thousands and thousands of children. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, how can you say, you're targeting militants when
Speaker 3: children are dying at these levels.
Speaker 2: There was a there was even one of these, like
Speaker 2: a lieutenant colonel from the IDF was on Wolf Blitzer Show,
Speaker 2: and even Wolf Blitzer was like, so you bombed this
Speaker 2: refugee camp and the IDF spokes were was like, well, yeah,
Speaker 2: but there was a mosque commander in there, and they're like, yeah,
Speaker 2: but you but you knew there were you knew there
Speaker 2: were refugees there, like people had been displaced, and he's
Speaker 2: like yeah, and he's like, well you drop the bomb,
Speaker 2: keep bombed it anyway, and he's just sort of like Wolf,
Speaker 2: that's just kind of like the tragedy of war, you know,
Speaker 2: and just leaving it like there, and I like, just
Speaker 2: to hear those things said out loud and not like
Speaker 2: have any sort of real counterbalance to that is also
Speaker 2: just it's just it's hard to watch because we see
Speaker 2: this play out so many times in so many different
Speaker 2: ways around the world. But yeah, it's it's so vivid
Speaker 2: right now and you're just asking, like, it's the best
Speaker 2: we can do is ask for a pause to the
Speaker 2: bombing and then because that presumes that it will resume.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just quick pause. Just let's take a let's take
Speaker 1: a beat, you know. Yeah, that's the best that we're
Speaker 1: we've got going in the mainstream media.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and but yeah, and so again I think this
Speaker 2: is and this is this goes along with you you're saying,
Speaker 2: I'm seeing more and more people starting posting that polling
Speaker 2: about how Joe Biden's support is cratering with so many
Speaker 2: groups right now because of the lack of action or
Speaker 2: just even words that seemingly come off as being acknowledging,
Speaker 2: like the value of human life. And but hey, I
Speaker 2: don't even know, like I guess when when the when
Speaker 2: the war machine is like in the on position, like
Speaker 2: like they don't give a fuck about polls or anything
Speaker 2: or what public sentiment is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's uh, let's take a quick break
Speaker 1: and we'll be right back. And we're back, and it
Speaker 1: is time. It's is that the catchphrase of Michael Buffer,
Speaker 1: Bruce Buffer, Bruce Buffer is the brother, right, isn't Michael.
Speaker 1: Michael came with the let's get ready to rumble, which
Speaker 1: I just got sued for I no longer have a job,
Speaker 1: And then his brother came and was like, oh, you
Speaker 1: think that's good. Well, you can hire me, and I'll
Speaker 1: say it's time. Thank you, three claps in a hollow
Speaker 1: empty AUDITORIM So Mariah Carey came for him, though she's
Speaker 1: stepping on his his turf. This happens every year. It's
Speaker 1: becoming it's become a tradition that at midnight on Halloween,
Speaker 1: Mariah Carey drops a video that is basically her being like,
Speaker 1: all right, it's time. It's Christmas time. Now it's November first,
Speaker 1: November first, it's Christmas time. This is apparently the beginning
Speaker 1: of the Christmas season. Starbucks agrees. Starbucks Holiday Cups are
Speaker 1: hitting stores today on the second.
Speaker 2: So, I mean, I know why, but come on, let's
Speaker 2: have a little let's have a little bit of a
Speaker 2: break really quick before we go dive that first into
Speaker 2: the ship.
Speaker 1: But okay, so they went. They went creative with the
Speaker 1: video this year. And so it opens with a vault
Speaker 1: in like I don't know, like an elaborate vault somewhere
Speaker 1: in the North Pole is kind of vibe I got.
Speaker 1: You go in the vault and there there's Jason four Keys,
Speaker 1: ghost Face from scream YEP, by the way, goes Face
Speaker 1: from scream a pumpkinhead goes Face from Scream, the most
Speaker 1: popular Halloween costume I saw last night really or on
Speaker 1: Halloween night. Yeah, Trigger treat like for ages two through
Speaker 1: adults were creepy. Yeah, it was way the way a
Speaker 1: two year old would walk too.
Speaker 2: It's already like not graceful. So like add that with
Speaker 2: like murder costume.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Scream is in the collective bloodstream right now. But anyways, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so we got Jason, we got ghost Face from Scream,
Speaker 1: we got Pumpkinhead and a fourth monster who they don't
Speaker 1: really show, so I'm assuming they didn't get the rights
Speaker 1: to them. They are, right. And then there's Mariah Carey
Speaker 1: in a big block of ice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then she hits that whistle tone shatters the
Speaker 2: ice block that she's encased in, like this is demolition
Speaker 2: Man or something. And then it's like it's time. And
Speaker 2: then we get the song and wait, wait what does
Speaker 2: she say?
Speaker 1: They say it.
Speaker 2: I can't time that whist Look, nobody can hit those
Speaker 2: whistle tonesiders. I won't even try, But I don't just
Speaker 2: wild how it goes from the war Like Jack you're
Speaker 2: talking about it is like you were saying, how it's
Speaker 2: funny to think that they're all hanging out like in
Speaker 2: this vault, like with Mariah Carey most days of the
Speaker 2: year basically, and.
Speaker 1: They're also using when when we find them, they are
Speaker 1: helping her get out of the block of ice by
Speaker 1: using HND using hair dryers on the block of ice.
Speaker 1: So this posits a world where Jason v Borghie's and
Speaker 1: ghost Face and all the famous slasher monsters are just
Speaker 1: like dying to defrost her and get the holiday season started. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they don't stop murdering. They don't like murder.
Speaker 2: And also that Mariah Carey does a cryo sleep from
Speaker 2: the end of like December twenty sixth to November first, every.
Speaker 1: Year, which would explain how she is aging backwards because
Speaker 1: that is true. Incredible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she just look incredible. I think I don't even
Speaker 3: think she's saying it's time for the holiday season. She's
Speaker 3: saying it's time for me to have another number one
Speaker 3: hit with that same song again. Yes, do we know
Speaker 3: like everything every year it's number one?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh yeah, do we know the economics of what
Speaker 2: that is? Like, Like I don't. I'm so curious, Like
Speaker 2: is charting number one? And I'm sure like you're getting
Speaker 2: a lot of spins or whatever. It's translating to some
Speaker 2: kind of money. But like, I wonder what exactly like
Speaker 2: that check is looking like every year, which she's like,
Speaker 2: I'm done with it.
Speaker 3: I think it's but it's probably it's like the streaming.
Speaker 3: It's enough streams that it's probably real streaming money. But
Speaker 3: it's also like the placements.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, oh for sure.
Speaker 1: Okay. Article from Billboard on the third of this year,
Speaker 1: the third day of this year, January third, twenty twenty three,
Speaker 1: Mariah carries All I Want for Christmas is you adds
Speaker 1: twelfth week a top hot one hundred.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: That is wild. She makes They say she makes around
Speaker 2: three million dollars a year from it from that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: just from yeah, just from that playing. Yeah, let alone
Speaker 2: the commercials of the licensing.
Speaker 1: They do not mark pay you for streams, so like
Speaker 1: that's a lot of streams. That is That means that
Speaker 1: that song is playing in a million households across America
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 3: It's probably like at any given second, it's playing somewhere.
Speaker 1: Right yeah, oh yeah, what other song?
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's powerful.
Speaker 3: He's pretty smart. I have to say, like, that's can.
Speaker 2: You imagine like all, like the way we've shifted up
Speaker 2: Christmas earlier and earlier and earlier, it's all because of Mariah.
Speaker 2: She's like, no, no, no, watch this, watch this. You
Speaker 2: want me to really mess up people's marketing plans? Drop
Speaker 2: the video on November first?
Speaker 3: But how we have we reached the limit? Like, there's
Speaker 3: no way that Christmas can go before? How can Christmas
Speaker 3: go before Halloween?
Speaker 2: July fifth, July third? That would be total domination. And
Speaker 2: she's like, it's July first. You know what that means?
Speaker 2: Get ready? Just blown it up?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: But I mean the thing is too I'm despite it
Speaker 2: being played so much. I'm not tired of it. No,
Speaker 2: I don't know why.
Speaker 3: Because you got a nine month break, right, you got
Speaker 3: a nine month break. You don't have to hear it
Speaker 3: in March. You know?
Speaker 2: Are you a fan of All I Want for Christmases? You?
Speaker 3: I am a fan of Mariah Carey. When her first
Speaker 3: record came out, I was like, like, when I was
Speaker 3: a kid, you know, huge fan and that you know
Speaker 3: that high pitch screen. So I definitely listened to her
Speaker 3: at a very formative time, and I just have a
Speaker 3: lot of love for her, Like you know, maybe in
Speaker 3: my teenage years, I you know, turned away. But and
Speaker 3: it's not like I play her regularly, but I have
Speaker 3: a lot of love for her and appreciation for her,
Speaker 3: and I think she's she's I don't know, she's quite
Speaker 3: the business woman, you know.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean I again, I just want to
Speaker 2: I really want to see like some forensic accounting about
Speaker 2: like because everyone's estimating. Some people are saying she's made
Speaker 2: sixty million dollars in total since the song has come out.
Speaker 2: Other people are saying it's like two and a half
Speaker 2: to three million a year. I really just want I
Speaker 2: really want to know, Like I want to see how
Speaker 2: Mariah Carey sees the world when it's time to dust
Speaker 2: that this track off and be like, oh baby kid less,
Speaker 2: just turn the money hos on please.
Speaker 1: To quote o dB baby baby, come on, baby, come
Speaker 1: on baby. Another song that I can still turn on
Speaker 1: a fantasy remix. Oh my yeah, that's yeah, still goes
Speaker 1: so hard. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: What about just how are you with Christmas music in
Speaker 2: general as a musician with.
Speaker 3: Hey, I really don't like it? Yeah yeah, really I can't.
Speaker 3: I can't with the Christmas music. My family really loves
Speaker 3: it and they play a lot, like around Christmas time.
Speaker 3: I can't get away from it with my family, but
Speaker 3: I cannot. But that song, I don't mind the other
Speaker 3: The only other Christmas songs that I kind of like
Speaker 3: is that the otis reading Marry Christmas Baby. Yeah. You know,
Speaker 3: it's like you gotta have something in there that's like
Speaker 3: underneath it, you.
Speaker 2: Know exactly, because if you're just hearing like Dean Martin
Speaker 2: and Ship all day, yeah, I mean, hey, drunk being Crosby,
Speaker 2: you're cool, but like give us a little bit of soul.
Speaker 2: That's why I have like a little bit of Sharon Jones,
Speaker 2: like Holiday album that's also really good too, that you
Speaker 2: got It. You kind of gotta level it out with
Speaker 2: some you know, dap Kings sometimes too, but yeah, Jack
Speaker 2: got a favorite.
Speaker 1: The Otis Redding one is really good by the bye
Speaker 1: Uh Toots. Oh yeah, I love I love that one. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I need a little something extra.
Speaker 2: I think we call it seasoning, little seasoning. Yeah, I can't.
Speaker 2: I can't.
Speaker 1: The little the mayonnaise sandwiches from bing Crosby every year,
Speaker 1: just not getting it done for me. I like that
Speaker 1: one Pretenders song that's kind of about Santa Claus it's
Speaker 1: like a very sad song about Santa Claus. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: that one's really good. I like that one John Lennon song,
Speaker 1: Happy Christmas War is Over. I've got I've got a
Speaker 1: whole playlist, though, you know.
Speaker 2: And what's most what's the one that you're you're plugging
Speaker 2: your ears when you hear.
Speaker 3: Oh god, I don't know, maybe Blue Christmas.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah it does. It does feel like you
Speaker 2: should be drinking like gin and like out of a
Speaker 2: brown bag, like in like a snowy alley when you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, it doesn't bust up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: I don't fel like my family, my family, Yeah, yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of a lot of songs that were
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, and you can't be with the people
Speaker 1: you love.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 2: It's actually yeah, yeah, like we're already having a hard
Speaker 2: time with the weather.
Speaker 1: You feel like that's an overserved market, guys, people people
Speaker 1: who can't be with the people that love.
Speaker 3: I'll be Home for Christmas, which is a good song,
Speaker 3: but oh it's so sad.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I do regret to inform you that I could
Speaker 1: listen to you sing the Otis song all day. So
Speaker 1: you might have album Christmas album, Christmas album.
Speaker 3: But you know, well, I mean then you look at
Speaker 3: Ryan Carrey and you're like, this is a good idea, right,
Speaker 3: but does it have to be does it? Here's here's
Speaker 3: my thing, here's my thing. It doesn't have to be Christmas.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of holidays, like you could write you
Speaker 3: could write a song. You write a Halloween song, it
Speaker 3: plays every Halloween. You write it like, you could do
Speaker 3: it with any holiday, and there would actually be less
Speaker 3: competition if you were doing it around like another holiday.
Speaker 1: Thanks. Yeah, yeah, it's a New Year New.
Speaker 3: Year's song, Like that's there's a in fact, I have
Speaker 3: a I have a New year song coming out on
Speaker 3: a there's an Ethiopia New Year's is like a really
Speaker 3: really really big holiday, and I have an Ethiopia New
Speaker 3: Year's song coming out for the next Ethiopian New Year's
Speaker 3: and I know now forever every year it will be bumped.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like, there you go, I found the pocket
Speaker 2: and here I am because I remember that was like
Speaker 2: it was like standard operating procedure for like pop artists
Speaker 2: for decades, like where's.
Speaker 1: Your Christmas album? In sync?
Speaker 2: Your Christmas album? Any Lennox and you're like, what, okay, sure,
Speaker 2: but yeah, give us something to give us. Someone give
Speaker 2: us a Halloween album.
Speaker 1: Halloween is probably the least underserved of all the other holidays,
Speaker 1: and rightly so, it is the best holiday, but it's
Speaker 1: still like a little thin, like after you get through
Speaker 1: Thriller and Monster Master Mash and like there are definitely
Speaker 1: the iconic hits, but it's like Christmas could have its
Speaker 1: own just radio station year round. Yeah it shouldn't, but
Speaker 1: it could easily have that. There's just no like Halloween
Speaker 1: is like a couple hours playlist and you're like, h
Speaker 1: should we do the Monster Mash again? Where we're doing
Speaker 1: that like Purple People Eater song that was like say
Speaker 1: for like kids birthday parties in the nineteen fifties, Like
Speaker 1: what the fuck are we doing here?
Speaker 3: I want to say, like there should be the Mother's
Speaker 3: Day and Father's Day song, so because that also would
Speaker 3: like that seems like I.
Speaker 2: Mean, Mama, yeah, Mama, you know, love you. I mean
Speaker 2: there's that one, but yeah, where's that one? Where's the
Speaker 2: one for dads? There's a lot of ones that's like
Speaker 2: shut out to you, dad, Butterfly kisses. Oh, it's it's
Speaker 2: just a dance being real schmaltzy. That one is the
Speaker 2: freakiest fucking song. The fuck is when you go to
Speaker 2: a wedding and you got the first dance to that song.
Speaker 2: I've been to more than one wedding where Butterfly Kisses
Speaker 2: was the like the bride and Father dance track, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, this is like a little this is
Speaker 2: too freaky.
Speaker 1: Man. No, yeah, there's a good father song fire. I
Speaker 1: think it's called Father of the Bride by Hamilton Lighthouser
Speaker 1: from The Walkman. I recommend that.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, all right, are they're gonna say father of Mine?
Speaker 1: Is that? Is that a song?
Speaker 2: No, it's the bride's dad, I ever clear? Father of mine?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, don't where have you been?
Speaker 1: Okay? This one is about like unfortunately it's not interesting.
Speaker 1: If it's a good dad, it has to be like
Speaker 1: the bride's dad. The song I was talking about is
Speaker 1: like about a dad who's like shows up to his
Speaker 1: daughter's wedding and like gives a speech and he's like
Speaker 1: a little drunk and his like suit is like dirty,
Speaker 1: but it's kind of cute. Oh man, did you do
Speaker 1: you know?
Speaker 2: You know the Butterfly you've heard Butterfly Kisses.
Speaker 3: I mean I can hear the guy's voice, like, you know, like.
Speaker 1: It's like about blinking into his daughter's eyes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I cannot. I cannot remember the song. And I'm
Speaker 3: not sure if it's because I've blocked it out or
Speaker 3: because I actually don't remember.
Speaker 2: But it's like each thing's like there's two the first lyrics,
Speaker 2: there's two things I know for sure. She was sent
Speaker 2: from heaven and she's Daddy's little girl. As I dropped
Speaker 2: to my knees by her bed at night, she talks
Speaker 2: to Jesus and I closed my eyes and I thank.
Speaker 1: God for all of the joy in my life. Oh
Speaker 1: but most of all for Butterfly.
Speaker 3: And that's kind of creepy somehow.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's definitely like squarely inside the culture that
Speaker 1: gave us like purity promises and shit like that, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah, because the next person, sweet sixteen, today, she's looking
Speaker 2: like her mama, a little.
Speaker 1: One part woman, the other part girl.
Speaker 2: Yo, easy, dad, easy dad.
Speaker 1: Don't let the fuck up. Don't let this guy give
Speaker 1: a speech at your wedding, and.
Speaker 3: Don't play this at a wedding, for God's sake.
Speaker 1: DJ it's it's like see something like daughter.
Speaker 2: He's like, she'll change your name today, She'll make a
Speaker 2: promise and I'll give her away. Standing in the bridegroom
Speaker 2: just staring at her. She asked me what I'm thinking,
Speaker 2: and I said, I'm not sure. I just feel like
Speaker 2: I'm losing my baby girl. Okay, Bob, thanks Bob Carlile.
Speaker 3: One of the ways that's her, my man, is this
Speaker 3: like one of the ways that we've come a long
Speaker 3: way around patriarchy? Like you can all like be horri No.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thirty years later, for sure, we're like, you don't
Speaker 2: own her, Bob Carlyle, Bob Carlile.
Speaker 1: Like that just sounds like the name of your fucking
Speaker 1: like typing teacher from middle school or something.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Bob Carlile. Do you hear the song
Speaker 1: Bob Carlile wrote about his daughter. Wow, it's a banger, man, Absolutely,
Speaker 1: It's the most dadass name I've ever heard.
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, you just feel something coming up to Hey,
Speaker 2: Bob Carlile, nice to meet you.
Speaker 1: Carlile, nice to meet you. Keep your damn hands off
Speaker 1: my little girl.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you know that you know that handshake, man,
Speaker 2: you know, and you know that handshake is compensed Satan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you shake that, he was like Bob Carlyle,
Speaker 1: like okay, easy man, I get it. Butterfly kiss. First
Speaker 1: of all, I just met you and your family. Second all,
Speaker 1: you're gesturing at a forty five year old woman right
Speaker 1: now as you say, keep my hands off your little girl.
Speaker 1: Weirdo mccleat hadero. What a pleasure having the daily zeitgeist?
Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff?
Speaker 3: Find me? Follow me at macleat Music. That's my handle
Speaker 3: on on Instagram and all the things, and macleat music
Speaker 3: dot com. It's m E K l I T. And
Speaker 3: even if you forget, you know, remember that I live
Speaker 3: in San Francisco. If you google Ethiopian singer san Francisco,
Speaker 3: you write up, oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, is there a work of media that you've
Speaker 1: been enjoying.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna shout out an album called ting Mong, which
Speaker 3: just came out by the La based band Dangae Fever,
Speaker 3: and uh they're great. It's like a Cambodian kind of
Speaker 3: throwback psychedelic rock band and the lead singer her name
Speaker 3: is Neimol chom Nimol. She comes from a family of
Speaker 3: traditional singers in Cambodia, and she is badass, Like every
Speaker 3: note that comes out of her mouth brings you into
Speaker 3: like a place where you're like, Okay, I don't know,
Speaker 3: I don't understand any of the lyrics, and I'm one
Speaker 3: hundred percent with her, like at every single song that
Speaker 3: she sings, every note that she plays, and Dan gay
Speaker 3: Fever is just like they're a treasure. They have a
Speaker 3: new record, ting Wong and all the songs on it
Speaker 3: are pretty fantastic. So yeah, that's my pick.
Speaker 1: Amazing, Miles, where can people find you as their working
Speaker 1: media you've been enjoying.
Speaker 2: At based platforms Miles of Gray. Find us on our
Speaker 2: basketball podcast, Miles and Jack Got Mad Boosties. Find me
Speaker 2: on My ninety Day Fiance show for twenty Day Fiance
Speaker 2: and also The Good Thief where it's the true crime
Speaker 2: show where we are in pursuit of the Greek Robin hood.
Speaker 2: Let's see a tweet that I like is actually an
Speaker 2: excerpt from a Joe Rogan interview that Ben Collins at
Speaker 2: one underscore and then an underscore tweeted just said how
Speaker 2: is this real? And this is the excerpt. It says,
Speaker 2: don't worry Rogan explained, I got my blood work done
Speaker 2: and the doctor says, you have arsenic in your blood.
Speaker 2: Rogan continued, I go if someone poisoning me, he said,
Speaker 2: it's very low levels. The doctor asked about Rogan's fish consumption,
Speaker 2: which revealed the problem. Which revealed the problem, Rogan told
Speaker 2: the doctor, Yeah, I eat like three cans of sardines
Speaker 2: a night. Locked Us recorded, that's a lot of sardines. Man,
Speaker 2: I love sardines, Rogan said, passionately. I love them, I
Speaker 2: really do. I've always loved sardines. Ohya, three can night.
Speaker 1: Huh, all right, you might have assault deficiency. Man, that's
Speaker 1: that's a lot.
Speaker 2: Holy shit, it's a lot of I mean I like sardines.
Speaker 1: The three cans before Betty bye. I don't know about that, but.
Speaker 3: Every day, Yeah, like that's what That's what you would
Speaker 3: You would have to crave them to do that, just
Speaker 3: like think about it during the day.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the body craves. What's in the blood,
Speaker 2: they say, you know, so if you're if all your
Speaker 2: blood is sardines, then you're probably just powered off sardines.
Speaker 1: He uh, price smells really good too. Yeah, all sardines
Speaker 1: all the time.
Speaker 2: Anyways.
Speaker 1: Uh, you can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore. Oh, Brian,
Speaker 1: I don't know what's the working media. I watched Halloween two.
Speaker 1: I had never seen Halloween two before. That was my
Speaker 1: horror movie for Halloween Evening and it was a fun time.
Speaker 1: I will say the Halloween films seem to positive universe
Speaker 1: of human beings who like a universe where human beings
Speaker 1: never developed peripheral vision, because there are so many moments
Speaker 1: where they are looking like just to the left of
Speaker 1: Michael Myers and have no fucking clue he's there.
Speaker 2: He's like tapping their shoulders like one second.
Speaker 1: One second. That literally happens when he comes up behind
Speaker 1: a girl and like puts his hand on her shoulder
Speaker 1: and she starts sucking on his finger because she thinks
Speaker 1: he's a dude that Michael Myers actually just killed.
Speaker 2: Oh god, yeah, how did he handle that? I don't
Speaker 2: think Michael Myers wasn't a creep about the whole thing.
Speaker 4: Also, his hands were like mad dirty yeah, without even knowing.
Speaker 2: I'm like, Michael Myers does not wash his fucking hands.
Speaker 1: Both been leaving bloody handprints everywhere. And then she's just
Speaker 1: like yeah, anyways, Uh, that's my pick. You can find
Speaker 1: me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. You can find
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Speaker 1: and our footnotes where we link off to the information
Speaker 1: that we talked about in today's episode, as well as
Speaker 1: a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what's hong?
Speaker 1: Are we sending people out?
Speaker 2: I was actually listening to mcleat's album on a day
Speaker 2: like today, and there is a track on there that
Speaker 2: I was really fucking with. It's called sole so lay Hey.
Speaker 2: I love the percussion, I love the horns like Sachs
Speaker 2: in there with some strings.
Speaker 3: Too, all of the above and also bass clarinet, baby.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I love the textures. I love the palette that's
Speaker 2: being used on this track. And not to mention your
Speaker 2: vocals everything. So this is you, guys, y'all got to
Speaker 2: look it up, but this is mcleatstrack Sole so Light.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, we will link off to that in
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