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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mick Shot

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Speaker 1: screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys apt Now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls,

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Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola and it is time for another edition

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Speaker 1: of Mick Shots. Bill Jones with Everson Walls and the

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Speaker 1: star of the show, Mickey span And look what here.

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Speaker 1: Oh he's got this read the entire week, give it

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Speaker 1: the bill, and probably we should call this the pregame

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Speaker 1: show to the breaking news of the day, because we

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Speaker 1: are guaranteed after we sign off at two fifteen, there

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Speaker 1: will be breaking news from the Yep, it's happen. Everything

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Speaker 1: happened on Friday, it happened on Monday. We'll see if

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Speaker 1: it happens again on Tuesday. And here comes our breaking news. Oh,

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Speaker 1: we've got some breaking news right now. Yes, entering the studio.

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Speaker 1: Oh what is gonna join us for her swan song?

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Speaker 1: A right, I can go, but you're gonna need me

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Speaker 1: tomorrow one last time. That's right. Hid Hi guys, So

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Speaker 1: what are you doing? You just brought you in on

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Speaker 1: everybody's show today. No, only I don't think only one show.

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Speaker 1: You have to announce to everything. Well Mickey said something

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Speaker 1: about Swan song. Oh yeah, I know, okay, yeah, all right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm aware this will be what's tight you guys, this

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Speaker 1: will be This will be Danny's last of a shoal

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Speaker 1: deal for the Dallas COVID. Yeah. I thought it would be.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday I did a whole bunch of shows with Mickey

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Speaker 1: and Lo and behold it was me. See now with me,

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Speaker 1: I'm the one. We have a special connection we do.

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Speaker 1: We do the games outside there on the on the turf,

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Speaker 1: you know, we do that when Toastito's championship, plausa, thank

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Speaker 1: you sir, Thank you Bill. Bill never misses a chance

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Speaker 1: to get in that spot there it is toast Tito's Championshi,

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Speaker 1: fans love us out there out there when rains, snow,

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Speaker 1: it was cold and it was hot. One of that

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Speaker 1: first one, the first one we came through like champs,

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Speaker 1: didn't we We We sure did, right and the Cowboys one

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Speaker 1: didn't it. Yes, So just to pull back the curtain, Danny,

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Speaker 1: this was her last day with us. She's moving on

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Speaker 1: to the Arizona Cardinals. Get Arizona sum Thank God, you're

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Speaker 1: not going to floor. And so I thought it jumped

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Speaker 1: he's a quarterback. If he If he did that, then

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Speaker 1: Bill definitely known. The next thirty minutes we're going to

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Speaker 1: hear about he ended up somewhere else red, still wearing red, yep,

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Speaker 1: and uh, and played pretty well against the Tennessee Titans.

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Speaker 1: So Danny just decided, you know what, it looks like

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Speaker 1: a pretty good team to work for, right, gonna go

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Speaker 1: for one and oh instead of and one? Of course not. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's very bitter sweet. Definitely going to miss working with

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Speaker 1: everyone and all the fun I've had hopping on the show.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not going to get too much into it

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Speaker 1: because I've spent the last two workdays crying to every

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Speaker 1: person I talked to about it. Mickey can attest to that.

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna keep a dry eye today. Good good light,

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Speaker 1: but that's okay. Yeah, you know what, that's a pretty

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Speaker 1: and then yesterday Zack Martin coming off the COVID list

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Speaker 1: we know now, Mickey, we know that Randy Gregory. It

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Speaker 1: sounds like UM tested positive. He is vaccinated UM. It's

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Speaker 1: I'm still somewhat cautious, but I think we're everybody's just

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Speaker 1: But he's moving real well, right, Danny. Yeah, we saw him.

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Speaker 1: at what point making a cut or running a route

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Speaker 1: of he didn't even really think about and he's like, okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm back, and he said right before they went to

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Speaker 1: training camp and Britt Brown has been helping him rehab,

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Speaker 1: so he's not even like thinking about his knee. So

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Speaker 1: he's saying that there was no knee problem, lingering that

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Speaker 1: he's he's feeling when he caught the ball the other night.

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Speaker 1: He no fear, he don't know and he put his head. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but get getting the person down the cool thing about him?

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Speaker 1: So was it Brad that asked the question, asked him

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Speaker 1: what things you need to work on? Because he talked

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Speaker 1: about I've got things to work on. He brought up

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Speaker 1: his blocking, and he brought up the play right the

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Speaker 1: option that he didn't make the block, and he said

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Speaker 1: it as because he heard about it all day. Yes, right,

438
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Speaker 1: he said he hate it, hate at him the hole

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Speaker 1: for two days there and he's good. He said, if

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Speaker 1: I let my teammates down, he goes because that's a

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Speaker 1: block eye And that was a key miss because you're

442
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: talking the game totally looks different if we score a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: That job. So going back to right tackle, Gosh, if

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be five games and I understand it's steal

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Speaker 1: somewhat of an appeal process going on, and it's like,

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Speaker 1: isn't Zack Martin you put him out there? Is McGovern

447
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Speaker 1: a better right guard than steal is a right tackle?

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Speaker 1: You know? And I don't know if they just I

449
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Speaker 1: might say yes, they just don't. I think so, But

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they just don't want to change things.

451
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Speaker 1: That's what I think it is. I think it's you

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Speaker 1: want to change one thing instead of two, right, which

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Speaker 1: I understand. But I think when you have Zach Martin,

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Speaker 1: who is your player who you would be moving as

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Speaker 1: a second piece, I just don't understand how that's not

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Speaker 1: the most appealing to you. Because of his athleticism and

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Speaker 1: his ability to be just as good at right jackle

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Speaker 1: as he is at right guard, and because we've seen

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Speaker 1: Connor McGovern who's played well at right guard, and that's

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Speaker 1: what made the difference. Even if you're not just game

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Speaker 1: planning for Joey Bosa and you're looking at those next

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Speaker 1: four games last year when every offensive lineman except for

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Speaker 1: Connor Williams was missing multiple games with injuries, and seeing

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Speaker 1: how that was affecting the flow of the offense and

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Speaker 1: affecting the run efficiency wouldn't you want to do whatever

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Speaker 1: it takes for those five games to really try and

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Speaker 1: keep this team and keep the flow and the balance

468
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Speaker 1: that you need as opposed to if you don't feel

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Speaker 1: like Terrence Steele is the best option at right tackle,

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Speaker 1: move Zack Martin over and that kind of keeps your

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Speaker 1: team maybe closer to the level of play it had

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Speaker 1: with Lyle Collins and keep you in the vision. I

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Speaker 1: don't think you're getting an argument from anybody in this room. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'll play Devil's advocate, all right. Would Zack Martin make

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Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl as a right tackle? I think he'd

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Speaker 1: make a Pro Bowl of any position. To be judge,

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Speaker 1: I don't know judging. We don't judge. I've seen in

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Speaker 1: two games. Yes. I thought when he moved out there

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Speaker 1: he was pretty darn good. Somebody asked Kellen. Somebody asked

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Speaker 1: Kellen Moore, Kellen Moore about him playing right tackle, and

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Speaker 1: he basically said, Zach Markin do anything. We asked, thank you, why?

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Speaker 1: Thank you? Okay? And that if? Okay? If if? What

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Speaker 1: is a which is the more important or more difficult

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Speaker 1: position to play? I say the tackle? I think the tackle,

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Speaker 1: but from a quarterback standpoint, it's not getting pressure up

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Speaker 1: the middle. I was going to say for this team.

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Speaker 1: So so that's my point. Yeah, so so depends on

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Speaker 1: who you plan it. Yeah. So my question is if

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Speaker 1: he is so good at right tackle, why are they

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Speaker 1: playing him at guard? Oh you mean like permanently permanently?

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Speaker 1: Why is he Why is he a guard if he

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Speaker 1: is so good at tackle, because he Layal Collins and

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Speaker 1: Tyrn Smith was the guard before he was attackle and

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Speaker 1: then they moved the tackle right. So why why when

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Speaker 1: everybody's healthy, does Lyle Collins play tackle and Martin play guard?

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Speaker 1: That came in first? Yeah, I'm there for a minute.

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Speaker 1: I mean so, but okay, when you're saying to the

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Speaker 1: legion switch, why if if if tackle is a premium position,

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Speaker 1: right and he can play tackle that well, and he

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Speaker 1: played tackle at Notre Dame. He didn't play inside and

501
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Speaker 1: Notre Dame. He played left tackle at Notre Dame. Then

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Speaker 1: why in the Attackle, why didn't he come into the

503
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Speaker 1: league playing tackle? I don't know about. Maybe they needed

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Speaker 1: a guard, especially for this team specifically, if you like

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Speaker 1: and you trust what you have in Lyle Collins, put

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Speaker 1: Zack Martin at right guard. I'm not saying I agree

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Speaker 1: that I understand what you're saying. But if you think

508
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: about when he got here twenty the whole dynamic of

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Speaker 1: the team was Remember Jason Garrett was trying to rebuild

510
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Speaker 1: the offensive stug free you still around, Yes, okay, he

511
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Speaker 1: was the right tackle, so they they were having problems

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Speaker 1: in the middle of the offensive line. That's why they

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Speaker 1: when they traded down in twenty thirteen. Was it for

514
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Speaker 1: Travis Frederick or twelve one of the two thirteen right?

515
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Speaker 1: It was like, I remember Jason Garrett sitting in here

516
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Speaker 1: telling me that we are so weak up the middle.

517
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Speaker 1: And he goes and he wasn't like trying to disparage

518
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Speaker 1: anybody that was playing there, because they're playing to play

519
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Speaker 1: their ass off, but they weren't just good enough. Right,

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Speaker 1: he goes, We're getting knocked back three yards trying to

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Speaker 1: run the ball, not pass block, run the ball. So

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing he's thinking, Okay, we got the left tackle,

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Speaker 1: now we got the center. I need somebody else to

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Speaker 1: play guard. And that's why I think they made that move. Well,

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Speaker 1: they could have had Johnny Manzel right and listen for

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Speaker 1: this game. I think it's even more important. Which side

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Speaker 1: is the most dangerous defensive lineman lining up four Rodgers? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and if he's wherever they put Bosa right Yeah. If so,

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Speaker 1: if Bosa is gonna be on the on our right

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Speaker 1: side and he's going to be the end, then I

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Speaker 1: want my best matchup to be, uh, Martin versus Bosa.

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Speaker 1: But Mickey's point has been, since we since it looks

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Speaker 1: like Collins is out five games, it's an extended period.

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Speaker 1: If it was one game, you would be in favor

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Speaker 1: or not to put words in your mind, Martin's staying

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Speaker 1: at right guard. But since it's five games, Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: want to put out I don't you think you think?

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Speaker 1: I mean, was Jerry Bluffin throwing him off guard or

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Speaker 1: off tackle? Whatever you want to say? Uh, because I'm

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Speaker 1: sure in McCarthy's thinking, there's no need to give him

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Speaker 1: a scouting report on what we're doing, right, Uh. They

542
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Speaker 1: don't need to know that. Um So anyway, that's I

543
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: think that's WoT. It's good. But I think if they do,

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Speaker 1: if they do what Nate suggested, I think that's probably

545
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: the best thing. Give him help, let him settle down,

546
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: get the speed of the game, and then let's go

547
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: started fourteen games last year and it wasn't pretty a

548
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: college free agent that he and he started every year

549
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: he was at Texas Tech. He was four year starter

550
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Speaker 1: at Texas Tech, and he probably made the biggest jump

551
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: a guy can make from first year to second year.

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Speaker 1: You know, he was one of the guys that won

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00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: the offseason workout awards. Uh and yeah, this past offseason

554
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: that he was in there, uh, ten guys he said

555
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Speaker 1: he need to get stronger. Yes, he said, yeah. I

556
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: think part of it too is there's a next man

557
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: up mentality, of course, and they've spent the last six

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Speaker 1: months with him training to be a tackle. The this

559
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Speaker 1: scenario came up that he would be going in at

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Speaker 1: right tackle if they if they're making that decision that

561
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Speaker 1: he's the guy, and so let's see what he does.

562
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Speaker 1: He's the next man up, and then if he struggles

563
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Speaker 1: in the first quarter, then we go to plan B.

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Speaker 1: The next next of McGovern moved Martin out. McGovern showed

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Speaker 1: how well he can play against the number one defense

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. Why not keep him in for consistency

567
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Speaker 1: and let Zach do his thing. I'll tell you what,

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Speaker 1: I went back and watched just kind of zeroed in

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Speaker 1: on McGovern. He was pretty good. He as they isolated

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Speaker 1: on him as well, and he was good. I got

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Speaker 1: another question for you. Okay, let's okay, Let's say Lyle

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Speaker 1: Collins was playing and Zach Martin is back. Who's the

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Speaker 1: left guard? Oh it's still Williams. Yep, Yeah, because they

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Speaker 1: liked But we're talking about Connor McGovern. So would he

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Speaker 1: is he in a if if if all five are healthy,

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Speaker 1: do we go back to Connor McGovern in Connor Williams?

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Speaker 1: Are you know Connor Williams obviously as the four year

578
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Speaker 1: starter there at left guard, but as Connor McGovern, did

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Speaker 1: he play so well that he's now challenging for a

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Speaker 1: starting spot on the other side? I don't know. I

581
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: don't know if that's if that would take place, because

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Speaker 1: because everybody tried to portray there was a competition going

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Speaker 1: on in training and there wasn't never materialized. So but

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Speaker 1: I think they have confidence now in McGovern. See, and

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Speaker 1: that's what happened last year. I think they were late

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Speaker 1: moving Martin out because I don't think they thought McGovern

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Speaker 1: was ready to step in at guard, and so they waited, waited, wait,

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Speaker 1: and they got towards the end of the season, it's like, okay,

589
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 1: let's see. I think he's because remember he didn't play

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Speaker 1: his rookie year, right, he had surgery on his um.

591
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 1: On his body, he tore the chess muscle, the peck, yeah,

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00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 1: and I think he hurt it twice, and then they

593
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 1: finally had surgery and so and then he didn't have

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Speaker 1: an offseason that next year. Right, there was no off season,

595
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: no preseason, shortened training camp, so it took him a

596
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Speaker 1: while to get back in. So I think when they

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Speaker 1: had confidence that he could play right guard, that's why

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00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: they moved Martin out. Now. The other point that I'm

599
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Speaker 1: sure on their favor of staying with Steel out there

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Speaker 1: is I'm sure before they moved Martin out there, they

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Speaker 1: gave him some snaps at tackle. They didn't just show

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Speaker 1: up on Wednesday and say, okay, practice three times, go

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Speaker 1: out there. Well, that's what's going to happen this week, right,

604
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: because he there's no preparation other than this week for

605
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: that game. So maybe they needed more time to maybe

606
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Speaker 1: adjust him out there. Dam you'll see, because as we know,

607
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Speaker 1: you can't have a first round pick at every spot

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Speaker 1: on the offensive line. At some point you can at

609
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: the defensive line. Washington though, why not? But yeah, right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: well you're already got to two of them both. Le

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00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: Collins is sort of a first round pick, right uh.

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Speaker 1: And so at some point you got to have your

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Speaker 1: Mark two and A or your Nate Knewton come in

614
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Speaker 1: that you didn't pay a whole lot to get. That

615
00:35:54,880 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: develops into a future of free agency. Well yeah, damn

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Speaker 1: free agent question. Bill. You mentioned plan B if something

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Speaker 1: goes awry with Terrence Steele. Let's say that's plan B

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Speaker 1: for now. Plan C is that tiniski? Or do you

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Speaker 1: put in connomer government at right guard and move Zach

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Speaker 1: Martin out to write tackle her lather the latter? Come on,

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Speaker 1: No brainer, guys, No brainer. I don't think they would

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Speaker 1: do it. You don't think so in mid game? You

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Speaker 1: think it'd be in sky? Yeah? Yeah, otherwise why he

624
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Speaker 1: shouldn't be on the roster? Well, no, no, what's he

625
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: doing on the roster? Well, yeah, you got a lot

626
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 1: of guys on the roster that they're not gonna give

627
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 1: me plan time. Well, even if somebody else goes down,

628
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Speaker 1: they look down the down the line, they're like, oh no, no,

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Speaker 1: not yet, go down. That's how I first got to

630
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Speaker 1: play in high school. They ran out of people. They said, okay,

631
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Speaker 1: get it and how did that go? Not? Well, did

632
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Speaker 1: you play? It didn't matter, really didn't matter. They put

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Speaker 1: me in at guard. So we have another option here.

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Speaker 1: We could play Mickey at God. You remind me of

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Speaker 1: and sixty five pounds and we had him playing against

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Speaker 1: billy Don Jackson from Sherman. Yeah, high school. Ye could

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Speaker 1: billy Don Jackson, he's a Sherman. Then he end up

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Speaker 1: going Tola. I wasn't. That wasn't one hundred thirty pounds,

642
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Speaker 1: soaking way. And you know what happened on the first play.

643
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: It was the first play I ever played in high

644
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Speaker 1: school because they didn't let me play when I was

645
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Speaker 1: a freshman because they were afraid I'd get hurt. Right,

646
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Speaker 1: But you're up to one hundred and thirty by yourself, Yes,

647
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Speaker 1: you can put on some weight. The linebacker gets up

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Speaker 1: and get down one thirty now, Vicky, he actually he

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654
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 1: next the next play, I was ready and he tried.

655
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 1: He tried to do it again right. Well, he ended

656
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Speaker 1: up being off sides, but I came up with my

657
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658
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Speaker 1: third play, I had to pull and all I saw

659
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Speaker 1: where red jerseys in front of me, and I just

660
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Speaker 1: you're Jerry. I'm all fired up. Right. We got down

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664
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Speaker 1: then they scored. So but you got him in position. Man.

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Speaker 1: We came back the next day film work, right, and

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668
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Speaker 1: all right, last four minutes of mixed shots here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we might be able to stretch it out a little. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Adia think all right? Do you want to talk about

718
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: the kicker? Yeah? Why do you have kicking experience too?

719
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Speaker 1: You have a kicking story, I mean another kicken story,

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Speaker 1: and not the one where I learned I learned a

721
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: deep snap. Okay, well a second, this could be your

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Speaker 1: mix shot for today, right, yes, absolutely, all right here

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Speaker 1: That's amazing. Since since I was a man without a position,

725
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: I worked with the kicker. I was the holder, So

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00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 1: when he was practicing off on the side, I held

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Speaker 1: in I learned a NOI okay, I am versatile just

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Speaker 1: like business. Deep snapper is an art, that's right. Yeah,

731
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: it's pretty good if you can do it, but unfortunately,

732
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Speaker 1: after you snap it, you got a black and you

733
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,919
Speaker 1: have to be versatile in this business. That's right, which

734
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: is why Danny Serek is headed to the Arizona Cardinals.

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00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: What are you going to be doing there? Pretty much

736
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,720
Speaker 1: a lot of the same stuff I'm doing here. Should

737
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: be versatile. People won't be nearly as cool as us. Man.

738
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 1: I hope they're just a fraction of how cool y'all are.

739
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Speaker 1: She's gonna be there, Casey Phillips, yea, in Tampa Bay

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Speaker 1: kind you a little bit of everything, So I'm excited.

741
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 1: It's been quite the whirlind very quick. So I'm gonna

742
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: head out there and then I'll be back here January second.

743
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: They're good for the Cardinals game, all right? I try

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Speaker 1: you see there. The journalism school at Missouri trains oh Casey.

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Speaker 1: Casey Phillips, who is Casey by the way, is basically

746
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: has the same role that you will have with the

747
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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. With the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and it has

748
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: turned out great for her. And she worked her way

749
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 1: up just like you were working your way up, where

750
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 1: she worked at Disney, the Washington Wizards and then the

751
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Speaker 1: Rams and then to Tampa Bay. And she's covering Tom Brady.

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00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 1: I mean, she did an interview last week where it

753
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Speaker 1: went viral where she's interviewing Brady Gronk and Lavante David altogether.

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Speaker 1: The week of the season when they won the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: she hosted the boat parade, the ceremony and everything. So

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00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:33,720
Speaker 1: that's what if Cliff Kingsbarrett ready for your parade, Cliff

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00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: Kingsbury can finally win something, then that could be in

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Speaker 1: your future too. Actually, Everson will enjoy that conversation she

759
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: had Tom Brady. Somehow they got on to defensive players

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00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: getting penalized for you know, blatant hits or blindside hits,

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Speaker 1: and Brady went on for three minutes talking about he

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Speaker 1: goes it's a punishment that the defensive player shouldn't have

763
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: to face that when that happens, it's the quarterback's fault

764
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Speaker 1: because he's thrown a pass where he shouldn't be thrown

765
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 1: and he's leading his guy right into that hit. But

766
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Speaker 1: he went on forever on it, right, and it was

767
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,439
Speaker 1: it was a really insightful answer. And I've heard Tim

768
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,479
Speaker 1: Brown talk about that TOOI and Tim did some TV

769
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: stuff with us right after he retired, and he was

770
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: talking about how it's a responsibility of the receiver on

771
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Speaker 1: a crossing route. You have to be aware of what's

772
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: in front of you and you can't just be you

773
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 1: know with your yeah, blindsighting like that, you know, And

774
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: so it's a responsibility of the receiver. Well almost turns

775
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 1: into because they know they're going to get the call.

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00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: It's it's so the quarter pack. So it's almost like

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Speaker 1: a flop thing, you know, you just go in there

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Speaker 1: as if you have the intention why receiver wise, and

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Speaker 1: they know that they're not going to catch it, they

780
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00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 1: they faint and effort. Why the dB is just trying

782
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: to make a play. Yeah, no, absolutely so. But anyway, Yeah,

783
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 1: that was we sorry to see Danny go yes the way, bittersweet.

784
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: I've loved working with you guys. Learned a lot, had

785
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: a lot of fun, a lot of laughs. Go see

786
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:18,760
Speaker 1: another crazy good quarterback and another another quarterback from the area.

787
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Speaker 1: Right right? Was he in high school? When you were

788
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 1: there in high school? And you went to what high school?

789
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 1: Plano Senior High Um, same district. This is not a

790
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: good sign Yes, sign Dan make you luck, wouldn't you? Guys?

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Speaker 1: Lucky man? Let's see it. Let's show it to the camera. Yeah,

792
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 1: there's a lot of signatures, a lot of signature. Do

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Speaker 1: you think they're gonna be man if I hang this

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00:46:55,960 --> 00:47:00,879
Speaker 1: up at my desk out there, yeah yeah, I'm like, look,

795
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 1: you want to go back there, you can go back there,

796
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: but do not stay here. You gotta take that down.

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00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: I feel I don't know, Henry, but I feel like

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00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 1: I'm just the deliverer here. I don't know, I just

799
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: delivered that. There's the people that have done some great

800
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: stuff with that. Roxanne Medina, I really did a great

801
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 1: job with it, but I just wanted to you'll be

802
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 1: able to read it set later on, but yeah, no,

803
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 1: I'm not able to read it anytimes. Don't take this

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Speaker 1: good stuff. Congratulations, guys. Way to go, all right, delivery

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Speaker 1: man Nickie, he comes in, he lays the boom down,

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00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: didn't he go ahead? But we never got to the kicker,

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Speaker 1: did we? Okay, what do you want to say about

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00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: you know what, I thought they should have done that

809
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: from the beginning, because, thanks Nick, from a practice squad standpoint,

810
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: what happens if the kicker. You know, this isn't like

811
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: replacing Randy. We talked about this. You got to have

812
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: somebody to replace them, So put that guy on there.

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00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: Well have been the plan all along, like wait a

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00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 1: week and get stick around back here, stick around and yeah,

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00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 1: you know, and you know, and hey, he missed the

816
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 1: thirty one yarder. Yeah he missed the extra points and

817
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: I'm not I'll give him the sixty. But at least

818
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,479
Speaker 1: it was accurate. It just came up. Well, didn't Jerry

819
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: Jones say today that apparently he's dealing with a quad injury. Yes,

820
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: and then he's got he did the back surgery, but

821
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,160
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822
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: which delayed how much he was doing. John Fossils swore

823
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: when he did his press conference yesterday that it had

824
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: nothing to do with his inactivity, but he went on

825
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: and on and on and then he he he basically

826
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 1: said he hit those first two kicks high, meaning it

827
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 1: wasn't like he hit the top of the ball, but

828
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 1: he didn't get underneath it to drive it. He hit

829
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 1: the ball too high. So well, they said he was booming,

830
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 1: and it was. I mean he was and so but again,

831
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: you know, when you're not under the pressure, Yeah, you're

832
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: not kicking into a line. Let's yeah, your projectory is

833
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,879
Speaker 1: a little bit. We're going to continue the conversation tomorrow. Here.

834
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: We should probably say his name though, right, hallelujah, hallelujah,

835
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: that's his name, Hawre, you go perfectly, Yes, all right,

836
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 1: that does it for Mick shots Danny, great value of

837
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 1: the sun, the very bright future for Danny's Surrey. Yeah,

838
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: all right, and we'll talk at you tomorrow on Mick

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