1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: It is Monday, November. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. Jaguars 2 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: Happy Hour is brought to you by Jet Home Loans 3 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: and now a guy who believes turkeys are grown on 4 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: a pole tree. J P. Sorry, you're stretching a little 5 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: bit today, Joe, Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour on this Monday, 6 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: the day after the loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers. It 7 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: is Thanksgiving week. We have a lot to be thankful for. 8 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: My name's j P. Shadrick, Pete Frisco, Tony Boselli coming up. 9 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: We've got a busy program. The Steelers Jaguars review. We'll 10 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: see what went wrong. Not a lot went right, especially 11 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: for Jake Luton. He struggled for interceptions against the Steelers 12 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: defense yesterday. We'll break all that down, the Jaguars defense 13 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: walking wounded. We'll go around the FC South. We'll get 14 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: to the social media questions, which there were many today, 15 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: and the not so powerful draft order rankings, which has 16 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: become unfortunately a staple on the show. And we'll go 17 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: around the National Football League. Let's start with yesterday's game 18 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: of Jack's Baul three to the Steelers, the ninth consecutive 19 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: loss tied for the longest losing streak in a single 20 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: season in franchise history. The only other time they did 21 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: that was Head coach Doug Marone not worried about himself. 22 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 1: He's worried about the players and coaches. At the end 23 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: of day, I'm gonna have to look in the mirror 24 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: and say, Okay, you know, have I done everything I 25 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: possibly can? You know, if I if I have exhausted 26 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 1: every avenue, have I you know, motivated to the best 27 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: of my ability, if I kept everything together. And I'm 28 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: not gonna say that's that that that's a win. That's 29 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: part of my job, that's my responsibility. And that's when 30 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: I take, um a lot of pride in and I 31 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: haven't been always been able to do that. And you 32 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: guys know about the past, so I haven't been able 33 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: to keep that you know, thing together at times. But um, 34 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: you know, I feel I feel like I owe these 35 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: guys everything that I have. That's just how I feel. 36 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: Head coach Doug Marone. It's a struggle right now. Pete Prisco, 37 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: Tony Baselli joining us on the program and to three 38 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: now nine in a row. Guys, what's up, Pete, Tony? 39 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: I breaking news real quick. Just breaking news. We just 40 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: we can actually change a segment on the show. I 41 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: have the Jaguars now lasting the power ranking after they 42 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: were third last week, so they down again. They're officially 43 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: where do you happen in the league? That's the question one. 44 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: But then you got your fingers crossed in their thirty 45 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 1: second by the time the wait, by the time of 46 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: the season, it's not pretty JP. And you know every 47 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: Monday we get on here and we say, oh, we're 48 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: gonna say the same old things again. Well, the reality 49 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 1: is that's what happens when your team is bad. The 50 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: question is is this the worst team in the history 51 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: of the Jacksonville Jaguars, And the answer to that question 52 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: is definitely yes. Well, here's an interesting stad pete. I 53 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:21,679 Speaker 1: guess I hate to say back that up. During this year, 54 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: the average in the nine game losing streak UM JP 55 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: mentioned that the last one was in that was year 56 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: Gus Bradley got fired. The marginal defeat for this team 57 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: is I think fifteen and a half points. The marginal 58 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: defeat for that team was eight point three points, and 59 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: so a whole time they're getting beat by a whole 60 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: touchdown more UM then the last time this franchise had 61 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: a nine game losing streak. It's the worst team. There's 62 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: no way to sugarcoat it. It's by far the worst team. 63 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: And they're gonna be changes coming, And the question becomes 64 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: when do they come? Is there any reason at all 65 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: to make those changes right now? I don't. Thanks, thanks 66 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: be rough this week, right, I mean, come on, I mean, 67 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: here's my problem with that, is it's a good it's 68 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: a good question. I'm not going to answer it because 69 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: I'm not it's not my responsibility to fire people or 70 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: hire people, and I don't like firing people on the radio. 71 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: And I've gotten I've gotten on other people who have 72 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: fired people on the radio. Yeah, especially because it was 73 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 1: a little premature. Um. With that said, I think it's 74 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: a fair question because is there is there any doubt 75 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: that it's it's going to happen. No, I don't think 76 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: there's any doubt. I don't know how shot On can 77 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 1: look the fan base and the media and the National 78 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: Football League in the face and say we're gonna bring 79 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: everybody back. I don't see how you can do that. So, 80 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: but then the question becomes, if you wait until the 81 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: end of the season, is that a disadvantage or are 82 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: you hurting your franchise by doing that? We saw the 83 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: Falcons clean house, and does that help them at all? 84 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: Are they they already used these stories, They already have 85 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: some candidates in mind. But don't you already know who 86 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 1: the candidates are? I think the only thing that again 87 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: if based on what you said, so it's assuming you're 88 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: correct that everyone's getting, you know, cleaned out. I think 89 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 1: the only thing I'm doing it sooner than later. Not 90 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: on the coaching side, but if you're gonna clean house 91 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: on the personnel on the GM side as well, getting 92 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: that GM in place first so that that individual's ability 93 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: to go hire the head coach that he wants and 94 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: we know how to and we know how that works 95 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: right after if you fire a guy on on Monday 96 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: or after the season's over, you usually want that GM 97 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 1: hired within the week to get your coaching search going 98 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: right away. That's right, because coaching search, and by the way, 99 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: you know, you gotta start working, you know, figure out 100 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 1: what you're doing in the draft, free agency, Senior Bowls 101 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, you know, only a couple of 102 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: weeks away. You know what's that gonna look like? In 103 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: this COVID world, we don't even know. But there's a 104 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: lot of work to be done. Um, not just hiring 105 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: the coach, but also getting ready for the next year. 106 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: If you're that personnel person, if you're the gym, yes, so, 107 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: I mean, look, those guys are smart. They've been around 108 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: the NFL a long time. They have to see the 109 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 1: handwriting on the wall. They have to know what's coming, 110 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: and I think they do. And it's like you said, Tony, 111 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: it's never fun to fire people, but you're hired in 112 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: that business to be fired. That's just the reality of it. 113 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: It's terrible, but that's the reality of it. Come on, 114 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: that's that's you. Name me a coach that doesn't get 115 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: fired rare, very rare. Well, it is rare, but it 116 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: still doesn't make it easy, especially around the holidays. We're 117 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 1: talking about it right now. I'm not I love. I'd 118 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: love to sit here and say, look, I respect all 119 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: the people that I've ever encountered inside that building from 120 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: a working standpoint, and Doug Morone Dave called all of them. 121 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: I know them all. I've come to like them and 122 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: respect them. But they're not dumbies. They know they know 123 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: what this league. Is it's the results oriented league. Well, 124 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: it's not. It's just not. It is a result in 125 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: your league, and you're gonna you know, you have You've 126 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: lost nine games in a row and and a lot 127 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: of those games haven't been closed. In the bigger concern, 128 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: I think outside of like, okay, the positives are, you 129 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: have cap space, you have draft picks. But then you say, okay, 130 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: we have to make sure we use that cap space 131 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: in those draft picks wisely. Okay, what give you the 132 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: confidence that's gonna happen. Well, then you just have to 133 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: revert right back to the current roster. Is this a 134 00:07:55,640 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: good current roster? No? Okay, in the in the in 135 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: the job of the individuals led by really Dave's job 136 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: was to build this roster. And we sit here right 137 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: now with the youngest team in the NFL and not 138 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: overly talented, and at one and nine. That doesn't mean 139 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: there's not some good pieces right and there, of course, 140 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: But then the next guy who doesn't, if Dave does 141 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: get fired, the next guy who comes in is going 142 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: to have some young players that he can kind of 143 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: build around a little bit. The problem is now it's 144 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: starting to trickle up and you're starting to hear criticism 145 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: of the ownership group, and so that's when it becomes 146 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,599 Speaker 1: yes and yesterday, what first I saw it was a 147 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: tweet this second fastest to a hundred losses in the 148 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,719 Speaker 1: NFL as an owner? Is that right? Correct? If you 149 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: count the playoff loss? Yes, So that's when now if 150 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 1: you're Shot Khan and you're Tony Khn and you start 151 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: seeing that kind of criticism, now it's bleeding up to you. 152 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: It's gone from this to this and now it's up 153 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: to you. So now you're sitting in a situation where 154 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna be faced with hearing endless stream of criticism. 155 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: But don't you think that started in JP? I love 156 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: your perspective because you fault Twitter and you're having good 157 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: handle the fans better than anybody. But I think that 158 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: started the last offseason, Pete, when there wasn't a change 159 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 1: made last year. I think that's a good thing to start. Yeah, 160 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 1: I think it is. Um. They took a lot of 161 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: criticism for that to keeping its status quo. But but now, 162 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: just but JP, don't you agree judgment by Twitter and 163 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: social media and everything, now that it's it's elevated to 164 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: a newer level above them too. From you know here 165 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 1: it's just moron Paul. Well, now it's gotten up to 166 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: the to the con I think whether that's right or 167 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 1: whether that's right. I mean, ultimately, you're the owner of 168 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: the team. You're responsible for that. You hire and fire 169 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: who you want. Well, I think that the hard part 170 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: is right now, is it's not just a another losing season, 171 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: another season of you know, double digit losses. There's not 172 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,719 Speaker 1: a lot of hope in the fan base. I mean, 173 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: and that's where you really start getting worried. I mean, one, 174 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 1: you look at the crowd yesterday was Steeler fans um two. 175 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,719 Speaker 1: I mean you listen. I mean I hear it from 176 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: people that I'm friends woul, playing golf with and hang 177 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: out in the community with. You hear it on talk radio, 178 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: You hear it on Twitter, you know, you hear it everywhere. 179 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: There's not even hope. It's not like the hope is 180 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: like hopefully, you know, changes are made and we get 181 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: Trevor Trevor Lawrence or Justin Fields. That's all anyone has 182 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: to hang on to you right now. It's not like 183 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: they say, man, we're hopeful because of the team we 184 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 1: have and we we see a pathway to get there, 185 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: to be good. And that's where you start getting really 186 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: concerned because it's about all the entire organization at that point. 187 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 1: And and to me, like, if that's the hope one 188 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: is and one guy, then is that a sense of 189 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: false hope? And you need a lot more than that. 190 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: That's a that's a nice piece, that's a big piece, 191 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: But it's not like you're gonna win next year. You 192 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: get a franchise quarterback, it cures your ills? Well, yes 193 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: and no. There's a franchise quarterback in Cincinnati named Joe 194 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: Burrow that everyone felt good until his knee went sideways 195 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: because they couldn't protect him and he got he finally 196 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: the abuse that he got all year caught up injury. 197 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: Could happen any any quarterback in the league. Okay, that's 198 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: exhibit one. You're right, it can. It's a dangerous game. 199 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: Even if you have the best offensive line. Guys can't 200 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: get hurt, no doubt about it. I'm not putting it 201 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: on just that. I'll give you exhibit too. There's this 202 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: guy called Andrew Luck who should be at the prime 203 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: of his career right now, but because for five years, 204 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: got the hell beat out of him, decided he didn't 205 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: want to play football anymore. And so it's not just 206 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 1: it somebo see and I'm gonna I'm gonna flip on 207 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: the other side of that one too. That speaks more 208 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: about him than it does about I'm not saying. Okay, 209 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: but my point is this. Here's my point, and I 210 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 1: think you agree with me on this. If you want 211 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: to have real hope, in my opinion, it starts with 212 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: the quarterback. What you just said, no doubt about it. 213 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: You and I are a line. You have to have 214 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback to consistently win in this league. It's 215 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: just the way it is, the way the game is 216 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: designed now more than ever because of the rules and 217 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: everything else. So we're agreement there, But I'll say this, 218 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: you better have a quarterback, and after that, you better 219 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 1: have somebody or multiple people who can affect the quarterback, 220 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: meaning a defensive front, and you better have a bunch 221 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: of dudes who can protect the quarterback. If you don't 222 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: have the foundation of big people on both lines who 223 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: can get after the quarterback and protect the quarterback and 224 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: that quarterback, it is really hard to win in this league. Okay, 225 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: let's let's let's been it forward. This team somehow had 226 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert and the same offensive line and the same 227 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 1: skilled people, and James Robinson is a running back, as 228 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: is Is that a good offense? It's it's pretty good. Well, 229 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: there there's your answer to your question. That line is 230 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: a great Tony, that line is not great. Nobody, you're right, 231 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: but you're still not. I don't think you have a 232 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: winning record right now because you can't affect the quarterback. 233 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: You have nine cents. That's the other side. You've also 234 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: used a lot of draft capital on the other side 235 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 1: of the ball to which is a problems issue. But 236 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: that you get the guy and then the rest of 237 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: the stuff all fills in after it. You have to 238 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 1: get the guys first. Care to hold it? No, I 239 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: understand what you're saying, but you can't build it and hope, 240 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: like heck, you get the quarterback. You have to build 241 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 1: it around the quarterback. I said it last year. I've 242 00:13:55,600 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: said it multiple times and again nothing gets Gardner Minshew. 243 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: I said it on this show. We talked about it. 244 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 1: I said on other shows people I would have drafted 245 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: a quarterback and gone after a quarterback this year because 246 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: I wasn't sure. Gardner Minshew is the franchise quarterback and 247 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: until you have that guy, you have to be chasing 248 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: to get that guy. And this goes back to this 249 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: take away. There are two draft picks d J. Anderson 250 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: and Chase on and if you traded up to get Herbert, 251 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: the franchise would be in fifty thousand times better shape 252 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: than it is right now. There would be like you 253 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: just said before, that's my point. In Los Angeles for 254 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: the Chargers, they have a bunch of issues. They don't 255 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: know how to win games, that can't close out games 256 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: and everything else. There might be a there might be 257 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: a head coaching change there as well. This year. You know, 258 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: it's probably a coin flip right now. But you know what, 259 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: the ten Charger fans that are actually in l A 260 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: they have bigger issues that I'm mean fans, But the 261 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: ten that are in they are hopeful because they watched 262 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: that guy sot for three fifty every week and stand 263 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: in the pocket and make plays on schedule and off schedule, 264 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: and they're like, you know what, we got our guys. 265 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: We might need to get a coach. We might need 266 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: to If we don't change a coach, we might have 267 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: to figure out how to stay healthy. There's other issues, 268 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: but they have the guy to Selly just made a 269 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: fans crack about another team top of top to cattle 270 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: can't do that. How many years of the Jaguar fans 271 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: taking a beating and people don't understand that there's actually 272 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: a big type fan base to just tirable losing. Is 273 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: there a big fan There was a there was a 274 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: good fan base in San Diego. I'm not saying the 275 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: old time Charger fans good fan you're telling me there's 276 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: a really a fan base in l A for the Charger. 277 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: In Jacksonville, there's a fan base, That's what I'm saying. 278 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: But they're not going to the games. I know. But 279 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: guess what since the Chargers moved there. Usually when the 280 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: team moves to a new city for the first year, 281 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: like people can't wait to go. The first year they 282 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: were there, they couldn't sell in the stadium. Pete, the 283 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: Chargers have been there before and played Remember, way back 284 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: in a day they were the Los Angeles Chargers at well, boy, 285 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: but you know what I'm saying. Yes, But but Tony, 286 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: don't come on. You've been defending that in Jacksonville for 287 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: years and year because we have a good because there's 288 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: fans here right now. There isn't not right now, there 289 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: isn't no, there's fans here. They are tired of it, 290 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: though they're mad, even worse than mad. I wish they 291 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: were really mad. I fear that the start of apathy 292 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: is coming in. So are there chants like yesterday? Are 293 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: there chance or people? Two nights? Are they? Are they 294 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: getting mad? Are they angry? You couldn't there was more 295 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: Steeler fans, Pete, I'm not making this up. JP was 296 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: there when I say, I mean, maybe that's a little 297 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: bit of an exaggeration, but it was a lot of 298 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: towels being slung around yesterday. I'll say that, let's come 299 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: back plenty ahead, will I get into the office performance 300 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 1: and what's next at the quarterback position? This year? We 301 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: won't go in the next year. 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Next to Welcome Back Jaguars Happy 374 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: Hour a Monday afternoon. That's Jake Luton, the Jaguars quarterback 375 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: after seven three loss to the Steelers in week eleven, 376 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: nine straight losses. Now for the Jags j P, Shadrick, 377 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: Pete Frisco and Tony Vasselli grad you're along with us 378 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: today and that brings us to the offensive discussion yesterday. 379 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: Jake Luton sixteen of thirty seven passing one yards, no touchdown, 380 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:04,199 Speaker 1: four interceptions, a fifteen point five rating. Those are the 381 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: stats in the game, and you know it. Once they 382 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 1: got behind by a couple of scores and the running 383 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: game was pretty much out the window. We talked about 384 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 1: a pregame Tony that you kind an idea of what 385 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: the Steelers defense could do and and Luton just didn't 386 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: really have it later in the game, and Doug Maron 387 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: actually said after the game he was thinking about bringing 388 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 1: in Mike Lennan didn't pull the trigger on that. Um, 389 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: how does Luton bounce back from a day like this? Well, 390 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: let me start by saying, I appreciate his protecting the 391 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: offensive line, but I thought that especially as the game 392 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: went on again, I thought the tackle struggle at times, UM, 393 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: and I think he was the right tackle really struggle. 394 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: It looked like from the TV. Well, I think both 395 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: did it. I mean, UM, I don't think it was 396 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: a great day. UM. Now, it didn't mean they were 397 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: getting beat every play or anything like that. Um, But 398 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: there was too much pressure. And I I mean, I 399 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: us have higher expectations of both Cam and Jawan, So 400 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: I appreciate. But but you said that going in last week. 401 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: Remember you said that those tackles had problems last week 402 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 1: against Green Bay, and if they had problems against green Bay, 403 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 1: they're gonna have problems this week as well. Yeah, I 404 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: was worried about it. I mean, those are two compass 405 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 1: rushers they have there and then and um. But with 406 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 1: that said, it wasn't always on the offensive line. I 407 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 1: think Luten missed some things. I think he missed some 408 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: opportunities down the field, and he was widely inaccurate for 409 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: the most part of the game. And he just ye 410 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: give him credit. You think he wasn't like he was panicked. 411 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: It wasn't like he was jumping in the pocket even 412 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: when he the pocket was closing down and there was 413 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: traffic and everything like that. But he just really inaccurate. Man, 414 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 1: the ball was sailing on him row two weeks in 415 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 1: a row. I kind of blamed the wind last week 416 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: when they played Green Bay, but there was no wind 417 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: yesterday and the ball was all over the place. Yeah, 418 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: I thought just watching and I went back and rewatched 419 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: it today on just a regular TV and it just 420 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 1: it was high way too many times. But like, okay, 421 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: give me one Connoy in the middle of the field 422 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: at a high ball. You should have pulled that one in. Um, 423 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 1: did you a great remember? Oh yes, I mean in 424 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: the hand the interception that he was that was tipped 425 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 1: at the goal line. It could have made it ten ten. 426 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: I don't even know where you're throwing the ball he 427 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 1: was throwing it. It It looks like you started the effort 428 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 1: and he was covered. Yeah, he has nobody to go 429 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 1: to there. It just it was not a good performance 430 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: by Luton. But again, is it a performance. The numbers 431 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 1: are far worse than the performance. Let's put it that way. 432 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 1: Don't you think the typical line of scrimmage the one 433 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: he was so in He was so inaccurate. I mean 434 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: even the start of the game, like some of the 435 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: catches guys had to make were like acrobatic catches to 436 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 1: go up high, and everything was sailing on him, and 437 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,239 Speaker 1: everything's a fastball. There's no change of me. It's just 438 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: like coming out of there hundred and it's offline. And 439 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 1: so yeah, no, I don't think I think I put 440 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: it on him. I think it was on him. I 441 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: don't think the numbers were good and I don't think 442 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 1: the performance was good. And there was one that James 443 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: Robinson had to catch on the far sideline out on 444 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: the left. It was a great catch, but it wasn't 445 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: close to anchor. So what do you do? Oh, gosh. 446 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I'll say this. Doug Moron today said that 447 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 1: he needs to see Gardner mins you throw a little bit, 448 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: he said, The athletic training staff said he's a percent, 449 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 1: but they need to see more throwing and see the 450 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: coaching staff see him on the practice field to see 451 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: how Gardner is and then get everybody you know before that, 452 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 1: get everybody around today and figure out how Jake's doing 453 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: above the shoulders, how Gardner's hand is doing, how Glennon is, 454 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: and then make a decision after that. So he wasn't 455 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: ready to make a move today, Yeah, I mean I 456 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 1: was ready to play. You think he's going back to him? Yeah, 457 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: I think I think so. I think so too. What 458 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: would you do? I'll think back, probably go back there. 459 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: Glennon is out of the equation for me. I'm not 460 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 1: playing him. No, I'm not playing Glennon either. Quickly remember 461 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, it's like, oh, Luton is 462 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 1: gonna be the guy all year. He might struggle a 463 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: little bit, but he's got a big arm, he can 464 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 1: throw it down the field and all this. But defensive 465 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 1: face yesterday, I know. And here's the thing. I go 466 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: back and forth because Gardner probably gives you more because 467 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: of his athletic ability, extending plays and doing different things. 468 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: Limited with his arm more accurate than uh way more 469 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: much more accurate than Luton. But you're limited, I think, 470 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 1: I mean at least like Luton's only he's a rookie. 471 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,199 Speaker 1: It's only three games, which aren't you like more interested 472 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 1: to see what Luton can do. I probably would start 473 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: looting again, but I think he's gonna go back to 474 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: min Chick or you Fencho is healthy and you don't 475 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: go to him. If you start looting in the ball, 476 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: sailing all over the place in a quarter, then you 477 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: go to Minshew that he's in the rest of the season. 478 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: That's another possibility. Yeah, does it really matter? Almost It doesn't. 479 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 1: This is where it matters. It doesn't matter to you. 480 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: It doesn't the fans, I'm not even sure care at 481 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: this point. It doesn't matter the guys on that team 482 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: and Doug and so it Doug's responsibility. What he needs 483 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 1: to do, honestly is and him and the staff. I 484 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 1: have to make the decision. Whoever gives you the best 485 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: chance to win. Well, what if that's Glennon, then you 486 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: can go play Glennon what because here's here's the thing. 487 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: What do they care about next year? They don't. So 488 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: you're trying to win for your guys. You have right now, 489 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: So go play Glennon if he's the best. If you 490 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: think Glennon gives you the best chance to win and 491 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 1: you'r Doug Morone, you play him. I agree with you. 492 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: They might have already And and if Mike Glennon's your 493 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 1: best chance to win, God blest you. On that note, 494 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 1: Let's take a time out to the defensive side. 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Yeah, I mean NFL thrown in trial 560 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: by fire it is, and Ben Roethlisberger is a smart guy. 561 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: He's gonna try to take advantage that steal us have 562 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: really good skilled positions with good guys in the outside. 563 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: And I thought, I mean, they're they're competing there in 564 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: the right positions of all time and the other guys 565 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: who just makes a few more plays today and when 566 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: when a couple of those players are fifty yard passes 567 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: on the outside, that's an easy way to give up 568 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: some points. But I mean they're out there competing. Even 569 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: the guys who are out there, the young guys, some 570 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: of them were hurt playing through injuries during the game. Um, 571 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: so you can't be can't be nothing but proud of 572 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: the effort they put out there. Joe Schobert, Jaguar's linebacker. 573 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: Thirteen tackles yesterday and the loss to the Steelers three 574 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: the final Welcome back Jaguars Happy Hour, j P. Shadrick, 575 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: Tony Boselli, Pete Frisco, your social questions coming up in 576 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: the second hour A day's flip it around to the 577 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: defense here, and you know, they were in the first 578 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: half of the game. I felt like they were hanging 579 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: in there at least, you know, and then things kind 580 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: of slipped away towards the back end of the football 581 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: game yesterday. Considering everything that was going on going into 582 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: the game, they didn't have the starting outside corners and 583 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: Henderson's of course on injury reserve. And then Sydney Jones 584 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: has an achilles issue now, so he was inactive for 585 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: the game. He was questionable on Friday going in he 586 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: did not play. He had a bunch of new faces 587 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: out there on the outside and in the secondary. And 588 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: then during the game a bunch of guys went down 589 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: with injury. Daniel Thomas banged up an army issue, Josh 590 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: Allen obviously with a new issue, and d J. Hayden 591 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: grabbed the back of his hamming again. So Doug Broone 592 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 1: today said those three guys will be out for quote 593 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: quite a bit of time. He didn't give a specific 594 00:33:53,960 --> 00:34:00,239 Speaker 1: time period for those guys. Andrew normal Thomas was an 595 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: arm wasn't it. Yeah, it was an arm did break it? 596 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: I haven't heard officially, and Doug didn't say. Maybe I 597 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: saw that on Twitter. So it was an armed issue. 598 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,399 Speaker 1: He's gonna be out for a while, what he said. 599 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,479 Speaker 1: And then for Alan there's no ligament damage, so that's 600 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: the good news. But it sounds like he'll be out 601 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: for a while as well. So they were banged up 602 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,439 Speaker 1: going in there. Even more bang up now, Pete, Yeah, 603 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 1: and to the court. Okay, Well, Sydney Jones play next week. 604 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 1: I mean look at the group of guys that are 605 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 1: on the field. It's incredible. Claybrook's had a rough over yesterday. 606 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: I mean he had He looked like a guy who 607 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,320 Speaker 1: was a rookie who shouldn't be starting, and he was 608 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 1: thrust into the starting lineup. And those are those guys 609 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: are gonna have those kind of games. It's hard to 610 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: find guys who had really good games. Are good games 611 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,439 Speaker 1: on defense, and which is interesting because they really didn't 612 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: give up a ton of points. I mean, Hamilton's flashed 613 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 1: at times. Again, I thought the new Tony, I mean 614 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 1: it wasn't great, but it was. Yeah. I mean I 615 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 1: give I give the defense credit. I mean they hung 616 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: in there. I mean they only they gave twenty seven points, 617 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 1: so it can't be that good. But the offense had 618 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: four turnovers. That's four extra possessions at the Steelers got 619 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 1: Um and if you look at it, I thought that, 620 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 1: you know, outside of three runs at Connor kind of broke, 621 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 1: they did a good job against the run game that 622 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: the Steelers issues. I don't think that offensive line is 623 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,839 Speaker 1: very good at run blocking at all, and that that's 624 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 1: I think that's gonna come bite them at some point. 625 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: Um and I give Todd Washington and credit. I thought 626 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 1: he was really creative with the blitz is and he 627 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: was that was his most creative game I thought. I 628 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 1: thought he thought he did a really good job and 629 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,919 Speaker 1: he competed and can confused Ben a couple of times. 630 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,879 Speaker 1: You should have to pick six with Jared Wilson broke 631 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 1: on that ball and just couldn't hold onto it. So 632 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,839 Speaker 1: you know, the defense played fine. I mean, I mean 633 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: that's a that's a good offense. It's an offense. It's 634 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:56,879 Speaker 1: some scorts and points. I got weapons, and I thought 635 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 1: they hung in there. If you think about it, there 636 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: without their two starting corner and then they're starting Nickel 637 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,879 Speaker 1: went down, and then their backup corner went down. I mean, 638 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: pretty soon you're the corners across the board were Luke 639 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 1: Barko undrafted free agent but not rookie for agent, had 640 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 1: played it all this year. Josiah Scott at Nickel drafted 641 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,359 Speaker 1: had not played played four snaps. I think he played 642 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: four snaps, that's correct. And then and then Trey Herndon 643 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: that was your that was your starting and then by 644 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,919 Speaker 1: the way, you're you're on your third safety with Andrew 645 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: Winger got out there who got beat for the touchdown. So, 646 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 1: I mean, it's tough. And then you and then you 647 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,399 Speaker 1: don't have any real pass rush in front of him. 648 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: That's that's a problem. I give him credit for what 649 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: they hung in there and did. Okay, of the guys 650 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: who started on Sunday, how many will be starting in 651 00:36:51,200 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 1: the same spot in two thousand and well, Josh Allen two? Four, Look, 652 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Hamilton's, Hamilton's, Hamilton's that's two, Showbert Miles Jack 653 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:19,800 Speaker 1: will start and and that's six maybe maybe maybe maybe 654 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: how many definite Josh Allen three, Hamilton's, Miles Jack and 655 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 1: Miles Jack, Hamilton's and Allen and Miles Jack going down. 656 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 1: That's it. That's the only definite. But they're paying showbird. 657 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 1: Sometimes you gotta admit your mistake. Wouldn't go I wouldn't 658 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 1: go down for you yet. Okay, what are you gonna 659 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,359 Speaker 1: wait to have the season to do it? Awful? He's 660 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 1: not awful good, but he ain't worth that money that 661 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 1: much is a given. Positive conversation. Tony has had enough 662 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,879 Speaker 1: of this conversation. I think, Pete, yeah, I mean, what 663 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 1: what what do you want to say? I mean, and 664 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 1: I told you what I think he's better. You're better 665 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 1: with him at starting at Mike is a moves Miles 666 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 1: jack Um, Well, are you telling me is he an 667 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,840 Speaker 1: all Pro? Is he a Pro Bowl level mic linebacker? 668 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 1: No Pro Bowl? Say it again, Pete, he's been to 669 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. I'm just you're asking me if he's 670 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 1: playing at that level. I don't think he is about 671 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 1: all right, So three guys are definite from the guys 672 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 1: who started on Sundays, there's only three definites going in. 673 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 1: I think that's right. I mean, yeah, definite. I mean 674 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,359 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna end up being five or six, 675 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 1: but definite, like start like you like, these guys are 676 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 1: starting caliber player. Okay, will Chase On be a starter? 677 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,840 Speaker 1: I don't think so. Well, that's a miss. Then if 678 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: he's not starting, it's a miss because I don't think 679 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:17,840 Speaker 1: you can start him and Josh Allen, I think you 680 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 1: need a bigger defensive end. I was gonna say, what 681 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,320 Speaker 1: kind of scheme are they running? Is it going to 682 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 1: be a totally different What if they come in? What 683 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: if the guy who comes in and puts three guys 684 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 1: down and two guys on the edge standing up, then 685 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 1: you can start both of them. Did anybody start yeah, right, 686 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm just thinking the current four three scheme. Yeah, 687 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 1: and which almost goes back to the pick of them. 688 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,399 Speaker 1: If you picked him thinking you're going to fit him 689 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 1: into this defense, it was almost like why, I mean, 690 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 1: unless you felt like he was an elite he had 691 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 1: a chance to be an elite pass rusher, and then 692 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 1: you have two pass rushers, you're a nickel on you 693 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 1: know sixty percent at the time, then it's worthwhile. I 694 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: don't see anything. I'm not saying he can't be. I 695 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 1: haven't seen anything that tells me an elite pass pressure. 696 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: He made a made a tackle yesterday though, that was 697 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 1: I hope. So you played defense, you're supposed to make tackles. Well, 698 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 1: I'm just saying he made it tackle and I'm not 699 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 1: I'm not to get credit with two tackle Did he 700 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,360 Speaker 1: get credit for two pressures too? One he had a 701 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 1: loop in on the interior where he almost hit Roethlisberger 702 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,359 Speaker 1: in the middle mid section, remember that one he came 703 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 1: around and looped inside. He made two official tackles, had 704 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 1: one tackle for loss, did not get any credit for 705 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 1: quarterback hits. I'll say that I don't know about but 706 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 1: it was. It was. He was right there at the 707 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,879 Speaker 1: when we released it. So it was. But again, he's 708 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 1: not lining up a winning against anybody. Got a stun 709 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 1: him inside, you know, used to do that really well. 710 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 1: But Beasley, I mean, what happened to Am. I'm just 711 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,359 Speaker 1: I'm not ready to kill him. You, I'm not ready 712 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 1: to bury him. And saying he's not ready to bury 713 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,839 Speaker 1: him either, I'm just asking you, do you think he's 714 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,800 Speaker 1: gonna be a starter next year in the current system? 715 00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 1: Now I don't. Oh good. Now, remember we're in the 716 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 1: second Go ahead to me because in a four three 717 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna start him in Josh Allen, I need 718 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,360 Speaker 1: a bigger end to line up on the tight inside 719 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,359 Speaker 1: we can hold the point. I don't think he can 720 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 1: hold the point. M fair enough. Caleb and Chason out 721 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,880 Speaker 1: of LSU overall pick couple of tackles yesterday eleven for 722 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,839 Speaker 1: the season. Has a sacked this year, but that just 723 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 1: hasn't been on the field a lot, uh this year. 724 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 1: Let's see yesterday. What were his numbers? Yesterday? Chason had 725 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:34,319 Speaker 1: forty six snaps yesterday, Remember Josh Old Josh Allen got 726 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,479 Speaker 1: hurt in the second quarter that's why. But he played 727 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 1: a lot yesterday though, and and the production wasn't there. Hey, look, 728 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 1: if there's no other way to sum it up other 729 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 1: than the fact that he's been a disappointment so far 730 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 1: this year, well, I mean, let me you look at it, right, 731 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you look at it right now. You're not 732 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 1: getting a ton of production out of it. Your top 733 00:41:52,840 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 1: your three, your first three draft picks, Anderson, Jason, and 734 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 1: Ye two of them are Yeah, that's right, that's now. 735 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,840 Speaker 1: I mean, injuries happened, so I'm not I mean that 736 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,719 Speaker 1: doesn't mean they can't they're not good players and can't 737 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,799 Speaker 1: play it. Just as you sit here today. You're not 738 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,360 Speaker 1: getting production out So you're the best production out of 739 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,799 Speaker 1: the rookie is clearly the undrafted running back, and then 740 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:23,720 Speaker 1: after that it's got to be who. Yeah, and then 741 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:27,239 Speaker 1: the one after that would have been, um, probably Claybrooks 742 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 1: or Thomas Thomas Thomas. Yeah. Now, Thomas Claybrooks has been 743 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:38,719 Speaker 1: really good on special teams, right, but remember that's what 744 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 1: he was drafted for. He was going to be a 745 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,279 Speaker 1: return specialist, right, He wasn't supposed to be on the 746 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,399 Speaker 1: field on defense. Yeah, he's done a good job too. 747 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,360 Speaker 1: He's a good gunner. I mean he's a good football player. 748 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:48,840 Speaker 1: I mean I think he has a future in the 749 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:52,319 Speaker 1: league as a special teams guy in you know, a 750 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 1: backup corner for sure. Right, I think we've lost Pete. 751 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 1: He's frozen on our screen, which is the best face 752 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:03,759 Speaker 1: he has had all day, Tony. So let's take a time. 753 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,800 Speaker 1: It's it's not a very it's not a very becoming 754 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 1: picture that he's frozen. He has like like turkey gaggle 755 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 1: of the neck kind of hanging down there, a little 756 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:15,160 Speaker 1: bad angle if you got any careful, if it's gonna freeze, 757 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,279 Speaker 1: you gotta freeze, like in a good long neck, you know, 758 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,839 Speaker 1: sit up straight kind of, I mean glass houses and all. 759 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 1: How many good angles are there down there? Not a lot, 760 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:27,359 Speaker 1: There aren't many. 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I think we got beat a couple of 818 00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 1: times up front, you know what I'm saying, you know, 819 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,080 Speaker 1: in some of those runs that you know, but he 820 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,239 Speaker 1: gets the most out of everything. I mean, you know, 821 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,200 Speaker 1: there's not not much more we can ask from him. 822 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,680 Speaker 1: You know, he's a bright Spot obviously, Um, you know 823 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,560 Speaker 1: it does well. I just I just feel bad that 824 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,680 Speaker 1: we can't, you know, get a lead and get him 825 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:26,760 Speaker 1: more carries, and you know, I think it's the production 826 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,040 Speaker 1: would be even higher, you know, but you know, like 827 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:30,919 Speaker 1: you said, we just gotta keep it, you know, keep 828 00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,719 Speaker 1: people off and and at times, you know, just do 829 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:35,719 Speaker 1: you know, continue a good job and do a good 830 00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:37,640 Speaker 1: job on him. I mean, he's a he's an obviously 831 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:41,240 Speaker 1: a good football player for US head coach Doug Moron 832 00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:46,319 Speaker 1: after the game yesterday discussing Jane Robinson, Jaguars running back, 833 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,640 Speaker 1: Welcome Back, Jaguars Happy Hour, j P, Shadrick, Pete, Frisco, 834 00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 1: Tonyssel will be back with us at the top of 835 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 1: the hour. So Pete, it's you and I are gonna 836 00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,239 Speaker 1: be the best segment of the show. Of course, every 837 00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,399 Speaker 1: time he leaves, it's always the best segment of the show. 838 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,120 Speaker 1: Come on, how many shows have we've done without him? 839 00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:03,759 Speaker 1: When he's been in Europe, they went, the ratings went 840 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,839 Speaker 1: through the roof. I mean they are to this day, 841 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:11,239 Speaker 1: there's not a higher rating shows. I mean, those are 842 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,640 Speaker 1: ones they put in the Hall of Fame. They really are. 843 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:18,640 Speaker 1: Um So James Robinson. I mean, this guy continues. Yeah, 844 00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:24,000 Speaker 1: it's you know what, JP, It's amazing that he's, like 845 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,839 Speaker 1: Doug said, you're not capable of seeing him play with 846 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,280 Speaker 1: the lead because he's been phenomenal. I mean, I always 847 00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:35,200 Speaker 1: say it. He doesn't let anybody get square contact on him. 848 00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:40,000 Speaker 1: He's always cutting and bobbing and weaving and and it's 849 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,200 Speaker 1: hard to get square hits on me. Fits through tight 850 00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,279 Speaker 1: little holes and pops out. He's what a running back 851 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,359 Speaker 1: should be. Um. You know, maybe he lacks the top 852 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,520 Speaker 1: end speed, which is okay, you don't have the explosive 853 00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:55,440 Speaker 1: runs from a guy like him, but he is a 854 00:48:55,480 --> 00:49:00,279 Speaker 1: tough guy, grinder and again Emmett Smith style runner. You 855 00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,720 Speaker 1: know where Emmett Smith never let people get good shots 856 00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:04,680 Speaker 1: on him, and yet he's still put up a bunch 857 00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,239 Speaker 1: of numbers. He's an oppressive kid. He's been their best 858 00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,759 Speaker 1: offensive player. I don't think there's any question about that. Uh. 859 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,400 Speaker 1: And he is a building block and the foundation for 860 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,640 Speaker 1: this team. I'd have to go dig a little bit, obviously, 861 00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:20,239 Speaker 1: but I'm curious how many rushing attempts are for losses 862 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,520 Speaker 1: or no gain for him this year. I bet the 863 00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:27,720 Speaker 1: vast majority are for positive yardage. Yeah. He and even 864 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,319 Speaker 1: at times when there's penetration, he has a way of 865 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,520 Speaker 1: finding himself to the lot of scrimmage and and that's 866 00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,160 Speaker 1: a sign of a good running back. Um. He is 867 00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:41,600 Speaker 1: everything that Leonar four Net wasn't. Leonard four Net had 868 00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:43,719 Speaker 1: the straight line speed when he got through the whole, 869 00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,840 Speaker 1: but he didn't make anybody mess if there was penetration 870 00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,200 Speaker 1: in the back, but he was going down. If there 871 00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:49,440 Speaker 1: was a guy in front of him, he's gonna try 872 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,400 Speaker 1: and run him over. He wasn't making anybody miss. This 873 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,120 Speaker 1: kid makes people miss. He just doesn't have the top 874 00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,520 Speaker 1: end speed. But he's a good back and he's a 875 00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,680 Speaker 1: good football player. To your point of he's not a 876 00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,439 Speaker 1: game breaker. He's not gonna break that forty sixty yard 877 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,759 Speaker 1: touchdown run. Um. Talking to Terry Robiscue a few weeks ago, 878 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:07,600 Speaker 1: the running backs coach has been in the league for 879 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:13,400 Speaker 1: forever and used that used to Bow Jackson and Marcus 880 00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,520 Speaker 1: Allen in his backfield as an assistant back in the 881 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,440 Speaker 1: old days. He said to James earlier this year, you know, 882 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,400 Speaker 1: get us what we need as a team, and that's 883 00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,319 Speaker 1: four yards, and then you can get what you want 884 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,719 Speaker 1: After that, so I think early in the season he 885 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,080 Speaker 1: might have been worried about breaking out and getting an 886 00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,880 Speaker 1: extra ten yards something like that. But as the season 887 00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,520 Speaker 1: has gone on, you see him focusing on what the 888 00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,560 Speaker 1: blocking is following the play, and that helps the offensive 889 00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,440 Speaker 1: line out as well when you follow what is what 890 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,240 Speaker 1: is drawn up for you. Hey, and he's a pretty 891 00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,640 Speaker 1: good receiver too. Out of the back. He can catch 892 00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,760 Speaker 1: the ball. He saw that yesterday, had a good catch. 893 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,960 Speaker 1: I think eventually they'll use them more in the screen 894 00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,399 Speaker 1: game as they get better at that kind of thing. 895 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,120 Speaker 1: But right now, he's a good running back. Now he's 896 00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:00,120 Speaker 1: not Fred Taylor, Maurice Jones, Drew. We can slow of 897 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,920 Speaker 1: that role right now. But he's a good back. And 898 00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,200 Speaker 1: if you asked me if I could have him or 899 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 1: Leonard Fournett right now to run behind my offensive line, 900 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:13,040 Speaker 1: I'm taking Robinson right I mean, we'll see Leonard tonight 901 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:16,200 Speaker 1: mon football. But um, you don't do anything. Don't do anything. 902 00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,320 Speaker 1: He doesn't do anything down there, No, don't do anything. 903 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,040 Speaker 1: I mean, he did some things in Jacksonville, but a 904 00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:22,879 Speaker 1: lot of that was out of necessity because he got 905 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:26,040 Speaker 1: the ball and they were behind. You know, the passing 906 00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:31,040 Speaker 1: yard and he got last year Catches was behind. But no, look, 907 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,239 Speaker 1: they took they took a lot of heat for that 908 00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:38,160 Speaker 1: decision right when it happened, right, I mean, that's one JP. 909 00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,759 Speaker 1: That's one decision that they deserve to get credit for 910 00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:45,160 Speaker 1: because you know, when they sat for net packing, they 911 00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,640 Speaker 1: knew they had Robinson and you know, you started hearing 912 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,440 Speaker 1: good things about him, and we talked about it on 913 00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,880 Speaker 1: the show and people when I told people, like on 914 00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:55,360 Speaker 1: the air in my place and I said it in 915 00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,320 Speaker 1: the office, they said who, But I said, you watch 916 00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:01,239 Speaker 1: I've heard nothing but good things about this. So they 917 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,879 Speaker 1: made the right decision. And he's a good kid. He's 918 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,399 Speaker 1: a he's a great character kid. From everything I hear 919 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,640 Speaker 1: a little quiet um, you know that, which you know 920 00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,920 Speaker 1: guys are when they're young and they're in rookies. But 921 00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,959 Speaker 1: he's a good back and they have that's a building block. 922 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:20,480 Speaker 1: There's one I think DJ sharkis too. You know, I think, 923 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,520 Speaker 1: you know, offensive line wise, you'd like to think John 924 00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,919 Speaker 1: Taylor is. But I don't think he's played that well 925 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:29,879 Speaker 1: this year. But he should be, uh you know, should 926 00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,320 Speaker 1: not will be. I think maybe if he stays healthy, 927 00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:38,680 Speaker 1: right that a guy like that, right and so, and 928 00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,080 Speaker 1: I think he bring Keelan coleback as the third receiver. 929 00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,640 Speaker 1: But that group is coming back now, how they play 930 00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:48,560 Speaker 1: out the offensive line is to be determined. Well, Cann'll 931 00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,560 Speaker 1: be back, be Can's contract and Kid's actually play a 932 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,719 Speaker 1: j can give him credit, he's played pretty well this year. 933 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,080 Speaker 1: The rest of those guys, I think it's up in 934 00:52:55,120 --> 00:53:00,200 Speaker 1: the air. Linder, Norwell, Cam Robinson, and Robinson that hasn't 935 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,719 Speaker 1: played himself into a big time contract. I don't think 936 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,360 Speaker 1: Tony might disagree with me, but I'd be careful with 937 00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,919 Speaker 1: that one, right. I mean, if you there's a better 938 00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,440 Speaker 1: option out there too, maybe you go get the better option. 939 00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,319 Speaker 1: Well can you can you? I still don't think you're 940 00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,520 Speaker 1: gonna be able to pay Lender and Robinson, so one 941 00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,160 Speaker 1: of them had one of them has to go, all right, 942 00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:26,719 Speaker 1: So are you more comfortable paying Lender paying Robinson for me? 943 00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:30,480 Speaker 1: I think I'm uncomfortable paying Lender. I'm more comfortable paying 944 00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,600 Speaker 1: neither of them, to be honest, with none of them 945 00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:36,360 Speaker 1: start over. No, I would Well, I mean, you drafted 946 00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:38,400 Speaker 1: bart do you think he's going to be a player, 947 00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:41,080 Speaker 1: so he could be in one of the guards and 948 00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:44,960 Speaker 1: you might send Norwell packing, make him me the left guard. Uh, 949 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:46,880 Speaker 1: and then you know you can find some guys that 950 00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,120 Speaker 1: are they have money to spend. Let's not forget about that. 951 00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,360 Speaker 1: These guys you can find on the on the street. 952 00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:56,359 Speaker 1: Let's just say in the draft they had. We're gonna 953 00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:02,759 Speaker 1: talk draft later, but Fields and the offensive lineman down there. 954 00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:07,479 Speaker 1: That when they picked the Ramspeck left tackle, and and 955 00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:12,520 Speaker 1: they sign a tight end and free agency, is that 956 00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:14,680 Speaker 1: a good offense? Well, it depends on what kind of 957 00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,479 Speaker 1: tight end you're getting, right. I mean, if you're gonna 958 00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,120 Speaker 1: get a free agency tight end, you think he's gonna 959 00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:25,120 Speaker 1: go down catches starting left tackle at twenty two or 960 00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,560 Speaker 1: whatever it is now, right, which would be a rookie tackle. 961 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:30,439 Speaker 1: But you know we've seen those guys step in and play. 962 00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,400 Speaker 1: Beckton's played really well. He was a high pick though. Um, 963 00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,719 Speaker 1: I think you'd have confidence at that point, right, I mean, 964 00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,799 Speaker 1: new guy your company with left tackle, your offensive line, 965 00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:41,480 Speaker 1: and new guy you pick in the first round at 966 00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,879 Speaker 1: left tackle, um BArch at left guard. It's a young 967 00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:48,000 Speaker 1: left side though. How you bring Linda back at center 968 00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,239 Speaker 1: to keep the group together? Can and Taylor? Then you 969 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:55,760 Speaker 1: have Fields, you drafted, you signed Hunter Henry, you draft, 970 00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,840 Speaker 1: and then you have the three healthy receivers together with Robinson. 971 00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,400 Speaker 1: Is that is that a good off? That's it's better 972 00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,920 Speaker 1: than what's going on right now. I'll say that what 973 00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,920 Speaker 1: has really it has the potential to be, has the potential. 974 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,560 Speaker 1: I don't think opening day you can say, hey, we're good, 975 00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,719 Speaker 1: it's built. You can't do that. They gotta go play 976 00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:16,200 Speaker 1: and get better together, you know, so I mean that. 977 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:19,520 Speaker 1: And and there are options in free agency as well 978 00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:24,040 Speaker 1: to spend money on. So there. Look, it's moving. You 979 00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,839 Speaker 1: have the money, you have the draft picks, you have 980 00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:30,520 Speaker 1: some building block. It's just this year. If you're a fan, 981 00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:32,640 Speaker 1: I know you hate when I say this. You just 982 00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:36,319 Speaker 1: gotta hope the Jets win one. And well, I mean 983 00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,360 Speaker 1: that's the reality. You'd rather have Trevor Lawrence and Justin Field. 984 00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:42,359 Speaker 1: And that's not anything against Justin Fields, because I think 985 00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,319 Speaker 1: he's gonna be a really good player too. This might 986 00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,480 Speaker 1: be Burrow and Herbert. You'd be okay with either one 987 00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:50,719 Speaker 1: of them. Right, One more quick thing here before we 988 00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,719 Speaker 1: go away. Are you more comfortable paying a tight end 989 00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,319 Speaker 1: in free agency or drafting a rookie tight end to 990 00:55:56,360 --> 00:56:00,480 Speaker 1: be the start or does it matter. I mean, I 991 00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,239 Speaker 1: might be more comfortable paying a left tackle if I 992 00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:07,080 Speaker 1: got one, and and then drafting the rookie tight end. Yeah. 993 00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:11,080 Speaker 1: The problem with the tight ends nowadays they're one dimensional 994 00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,400 Speaker 1: in a lot of cases. I mean, like, Okay, the 995 00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,040 Speaker 1: kid at Penn State was going to be a first 996 00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:18,120 Speaker 1: round pick, Briar Ruth, I think that's his name. He's 997 00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:21,319 Speaker 1: hurt now, and so how do you evaluate him? And 998 00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,719 Speaker 1: he's a complete tight end. You have the Florida kid. 999 00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,120 Speaker 1: He we know what he is. He's a pass cat. 1000 00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:30,399 Speaker 1: That's a that's a that's a Darren Waller. 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You know, I kind 1070 01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:29,520 Speaker 1: of went back and forth for a little bit. Me truthfully, 1071 01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:31,200 Speaker 1: I was just thinking to myself, Hey, listen, do we 1072 01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:32,840 Speaker 1: keep him in there? And you know, you talk about 1073 01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,120 Speaker 1: getting experience? You know, is that gonna get experience? And 1074 01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:37,440 Speaker 1: then is it good enough? Or you know where we are? 1075 01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:39,800 Speaker 1: But I think, you know, during a week will evaluate it. 1076 01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:41,880 Speaker 1: I don't think I'll have an answer on Monday, you 1077 01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:43,960 Speaker 1: know when I get asked a question. But you know, 1078 01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,200 Speaker 1: I think, as um, you know, the week gold we'll 1079 01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:47,919 Speaker 1: take a look and see what we can do. What's 1080 01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:51,720 Speaker 1: the best thing for our team? That coach Doug Maron 1081 01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:56,160 Speaker 1: after the game yesterday discussing the quarterback situation. Welcome into 1082 01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,959 Speaker 1: the second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour. The day after 1083 01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:03,160 Speaker 1: a Jaguars lost to the Pittsburgh Steelers in Week eleven three. 1084 01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:07,240 Speaker 1: The final score j P Shadrick, Pete Prisco, Tony VASSELLI 1085 01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:10,560 Speaker 1: glad you're along with us today as the Jags have 1086 01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:16,560 Speaker 1: extended their losing skid to nine straight games. The offense 1087 01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:20,720 Speaker 1: struggled Jake Luton through four interceptions and that answer from 1088 01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,160 Speaker 1: Doug Moron was to a question about whether he thought 1089 01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:26,160 Speaker 1: about putting Mike Lennan into the game. He said he 1090 01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,360 Speaker 1: thought about it, but decided to stick with Luton in 1091 01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:32,000 Speaker 1: the game. Moving forward, still no decision as of today 1092 01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:34,880 Speaker 1: when Doug Moron spoke at the quarterback spot. Moving ahead, 1093 01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,880 Speaker 1: they'll see how Gardener Meantshew progresses in practice this week. 1094 01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:39,800 Speaker 1: The coaching staff wants to see him throw a little 1095 01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:44,440 Speaker 1: bit more and then they'll figure things out. Possibly on Wednesday. 1096 01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:47,360 Speaker 1: The defense held their own for a bit. The Steelers though, 1097 01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,040 Speaker 1: just to have all those weapons everywhere, and the Jaguars 1098 01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:54,880 Speaker 1: are walking wounded and in some cases not walking unfortunately. 1099 01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:59,080 Speaker 1: It is a tough sled yesterday in the athletic training 1100 01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:00,960 Speaker 1: department in the manage of staff, as well a lot 1101 01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:02,480 Speaker 1: going on in the game. A lot of guys left 1102 01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:05,720 Speaker 1: the game, did not come back, and some major players 1103 01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,160 Speaker 1: could be out for a little while, including Josh Allen 1104 01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:11,960 Speaker 1: on the defensive line on deck. It doesn't get easier. 1105 01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:14,800 Speaker 1: The seven and three Cleveland Browns come to town this 1106 01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:18,080 Speaker 1: week in week number twelve, and they're fighting for a 1107 01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:21,320 Speaker 1: playoff spot. You know they'll be locked and loaded. Hey, 1108 01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:25,280 Speaker 1: Tony's back with us. That you missed minutes was the 1109 01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:28,560 Speaker 1: best radio we've had in a long It's unbelievable. The 1110 01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:31,160 Speaker 1: ratings just went right through the roof when you left. 1111 01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:33,959 Speaker 1: I heard it as I was on the phone taking 1112 01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:38,320 Speaker 1: care of something. I heard bab babbling or along. No, 1113 01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:41,440 Speaker 1: we I got you know how they nowadays you can 1114 01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:44,880 Speaker 1: get ratings metered like by fifteen minutes segments. That was 1115 01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:48,000 Speaker 1: their highest rated fifteen minutes of the year so far. Yeah, 1116 01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:51,320 Speaker 1: I heard your I heard your Hunter, Henry take not 1117 01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:55,280 Speaker 1: just town Henry, just whatever. They need help. And you 1118 01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:59,120 Speaker 1: wouldn't pay either Linda or you cut you you you 1119 01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:01,880 Speaker 1: move on from lend Uder and Cam. I might he 1120 01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:07,040 Speaker 1: start over, is what he said. Yep, Tony, I might play. 1121 01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:09,880 Speaker 1: I play Shatley at center if I had to, and 1122 01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:13,320 Speaker 1: I get a left pack or a draft one, play 1123 01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,400 Speaker 1: Bart and Left. I mean yes, I would probably. To 1124 01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,040 Speaker 1: be honest with you, I think they're both too expensive. 1125 01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:19,760 Speaker 1: They'd be both too expensive for what they are. What 1126 01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:25,160 Speaker 1: what would they what number would make Cam too expensive? Well? 1127 01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:26,600 Speaker 1: What do you think he's gonna ask for? I mean 1128 01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:29,400 Speaker 1: in unrestricted free agent left tackle? After seeing what these 1129 01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:31,920 Speaker 1: guys have been getting? What about ther he get and 1130 01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:35,880 Speaker 1: he hasn't Bougard, But what do you get? Or twenty three? Here? 1131 01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:38,480 Speaker 1: Just drop him down a little bit. What do you 1132 01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:40,920 Speaker 1: think he's gonna ask for? I didn't say what he's 1133 01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:46,640 Speaker 1: gonna ask for. What would you want? What I pay him? Yeah, twelve, 1134 01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:56,160 Speaker 1: I was gonna say fourteen. No, but you're paying for 1135 01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,840 Speaker 1: What are you paying for, Tony? What? What do you 1136 01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:03,480 Speaker 1: adding for fourteen million dollars a year? I mean, I 1137 01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:07,960 Speaker 1: think you're getting a solid starters. So you're overby for 1138 01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:11,760 Speaker 1: a solid starter? No, I mean, but I mean left 1139 01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:16,120 Speaker 1: tackles start left tackles a leaguer you intended fourteen? All right, 1140 01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:19,200 Speaker 1: unless unless unless you unless you go get him, you know, 1141 01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:25,360 Speaker 1: draft him. Do you think he's better than Villanueva? Yes, 1142 01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:29,920 Speaker 1: you do, Yeah, I do. I don't know about that. 1143 01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:36,120 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, he can watch the tape. He's a thousand 1144 01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:39,880 Speaker 1: times better run blocker than he's a better can't bend 1145 01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:44,520 Speaker 1: his knees, and he's a better pass walker. Ben Satan's Villanueva. 1146 01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:46,760 Speaker 1: Ben gets rid of it faster than any quarterback in 1147 01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:48,400 Speaker 1: the league, and he moves in the pocket as well 1148 01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:52,040 Speaker 1: as anybody. Yes, he's better than villain Aueva. It's not okay, 1149 01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:53,800 Speaker 1: but he's not okay. We can go around the league 1150 01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:56,440 Speaker 1: and find left tackles. He's not better that What are 1151 01:04:56,480 --> 01:05:00,400 Speaker 1: they paying Villainueva. I'm gonna look, okay, is he's not 1152 01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:05,520 Speaker 1: better than Eric Fisher and he's not good. Would you 1153 01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:08,080 Speaker 1: agree with that? He's a better run blocker eric Fisher? 1154 01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:11,760 Speaker 1: But he's he's not as um I mean, I think 1155 01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:17,200 Speaker 1: he's he's on Eric Fisher's calib don't. I mean, they're like, 1156 01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:21,280 Speaker 1: you're right, they're probably neither one of them are that good? Okay? 1157 01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:23,040 Speaker 1: You know what building a wave it gets per year? 1158 01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:33,200 Speaker 1: He gotta he makes six million dollars a year and 1159 01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:37,280 Speaker 1: he's an unrestricted free agent after the season. There's not 1160 01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:39,360 Speaker 1: that much. Would you pay billing a wave of six 1161 01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:49,400 Speaker 1: million and gad Momas in four D don't? Yeah? I mean, Pete, 1162 01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:52,280 Speaker 1: here's the other thing you can't do any now. Build 1163 01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:54,800 Speaker 1: a wave is older. Yeah, he's much older. Here's other 1164 01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:57,080 Speaker 1: thing you can't do. You just can't keep on getting 1165 01:05:57,160 --> 01:06:02,040 Speaker 1: rid of guys. You have to build somewhere. I mean, 1166 01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:08,760 Speaker 1: I'll give you the perfect million. What is though, No, 1167 01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:12,280 Speaker 1: you missed my point. This is exactly. Whoever the GM 1168 01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:16,360 Speaker 1: needs to be thinking. What's Eric Fisher getting paid from? 1169 01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:20,120 Speaker 1: Picked though? Too, I don't care it's a second contract. 1170 01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:22,160 Speaker 1: What is he getting paid? I'll tell you right now. 1171 01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:26,200 Speaker 1: We'll see if you're over a little to it. He's 1172 01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:31,600 Speaker 1: getting twelve a year. Okay, So I said twelve, I said, Tony, 1173 01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:34,640 Speaker 1: what every every player in the league was the GM? 1174 01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:37,400 Speaker 1: You know you said ten? First of all? I swell, 1175 01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:44,600 Speaker 1: and I said you said fourteen. Tony said fourteen. I 1176 01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:49,960 Speaker 1: said twelve. No, I did not say fourteen. I said 1177 01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:53,000 Speaker 1: twelve to fourteen. I give you a range. I said twelve. 1178 01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:57,720 Speaker 1: We can pull the tape up at Jenny game, okay, 1179 01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:00,840 Speaker 1: if whatever. By the way, that deal was signed two 1180 01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:03,000 Speaker 1: or three years ago, I think he's an equal quest 1181 01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:05,960 Speaker 1: like and everyone killed the Chiefs when they signed him 1182 01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:07,720 Speaker 1: and paid him that much money to or three years ago. 1183 01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:10,440 Speaker 1: Here's the reality is, unless you have someone better to 1184 01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:12,640 Speaker 1: replace him with, you just keep on going backwards and 1185 01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:16,600 Speaker 1: spinning and you go nowhere. So okay, so you can't 1186 01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:18,960 Speaker 1: pay would you agree that you're probably not gonna pay 1187 01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:22,960 Speaker 1: keep Lender and pay Camp. I don't think you can 1188 01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:27,120 Speaker 1: pay Lender Norwell and Camp Okay, well, let's take doorall 1189 01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:30,360 Speaker 1: out of the equation, because the ideal situation barches ready 1190 01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:33,880 Speaker 1: to play left card? You play left card? True, right, 1191 01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:35,680 Speaker 1: you drafted him, you think you can play, you put 1192 01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:40,000 Speaker 1: him a left card. I haven't. I mean, I haven't 1193 01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:42,680 Speaker 1: what I saw in the two games. I'm not doing that. 1194 01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:48,080 Speaker 1: But it's a whole year of everything. Great, am I 1195 01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:51,000 Speaker 1: gonna bet everything going into the uh go into the 1196 01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:53,880 Speaker 1: season with what I've seen so far. Now, I haven't 1197 01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:56,080 Speaker 1: seen practice. I haven't seen what this guy does in camp. 1198 01:07:56,160 --> 01:08:00,280 Speaker 1: I mean, we weren't therapy. It's hard, but that's an 1199 01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:05,000 Speaker 1: ideal scenario. Okay, but okay, but you pay everybody and 1200 01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:09,040 Speaker 1: bring it me. You get not said to pay everybody, 1201 01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:13,360 Speaker 1: You're not, So what would you do? What would I do? 1202 01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:20,000 Speaker 1: Um one? I I My biggest concern, Pete is if 1203 01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:21,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go draft a young quarterback, I want to 1204 01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:26,360 Speaker 1: protect him. And even if it's I mean, you gotta 1205 01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:29,559 Speaker 1: protect him. I get that. But you are you? Is 1206 01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:35,120 Speaker 1: this line good enough to protect? I mean, that's a 1207 01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:37,320 Speaker 1: fair that that's the other side, is it? I mean, 1208 01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:39,559 Speaker 1: what do you get? Are you getting what you're paying for? 1209 01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:43,439 Speaker 1: That's a fair that's a fair okay, So let's let's 1210 01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:46,040 Speaker 1: just say you can't. There's no way you can pay. 1211 01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:50,439 Speaker 1: You can't pay you and lender, and nor would you. 1212 01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:55,040 Speaker 1: Why would you? I agree, So one of them or 1213 01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:59,040 Speaker 1: two of them have to go. You're probably right, So 1214 01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:00,639 Speaker 1: then which one do you pick? He picked the young 1215 01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:03,400 Speaker 1: guy and let the two old guys go. I mean, 1216 01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:07,479 Speaker 1: I've always maybe overvalued Cam because I think he really 1217 01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:10,960 Speaker 1: has ability and talent and everything else, but the consistency 1218 01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:13,639 Speaker 1: is just not there. And if you look at it, 1219 01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:17,200 Speaker 1: you know his rookie year was his rookie year up 1220 01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:20,240 Speaker 1: and down, but that's a rookie Um. He came back 1221 01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:22,439 Speaker 1: before he got hurt. He was not playing good, did 1222 01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:25,240 Speaker 1: not have a good camp, good three season or good start. 1223 01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:31,080 Speaker 1: Gets hurt Um early and then really last year never 1224 01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:34,000 Speaker 1: looked good at all last year as well. Now came 1225 01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:36,920 Speaker 1: back this year in a contract year, in great shape 1226 01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:41,160 Speaker 1: and like ready to go. Started well. Um has had 1227 01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:43,080 Speaker 1: the last couple of has been tough weeks, but for 1228 01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:45,040 Speaker 1: the most part has played well this year until the 1229 01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:47,880 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. Um. But when you worry about 1230 01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,519 Speaker 1: with the guy like that, Pete, didn't you do it 1231 01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:54,840 Speaker 1: because it was his contract year, and this is a 1232 01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:57,840 Speaker 1: contract year, and this is the best you're gonna get. 1233 01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:01,000 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? If if he went into 1234 01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,840 Speaker 1: the year as a contract year, got in great shape, 1235 01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:05,880 Speaker 1: was ready to go, I'm gonna go show people I'm 1236 01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:07,960 Speaker 1: worth all this money, and this is the best you're 1237 01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:13,760 Speaker 1: gonna get. That's concerning. Yeah, well, I mean what does 1238 01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:18,040 Speaker 1: he get paid? And visit an unrestricted free agent? That's 1239 01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:20,680 Speaker 1: a good question. I mean, is he gonna get He 1240 01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:23,000 Speaker 1: probably gets. He's not coming close to that box the 1241 01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:26,120 Speaker 1: R money. No, no, no, no, he's not bad. So 1242 01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:29,519 Speaker 1: so what's he get? I say, gets twelve. I bet 1243 01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:32,679 Speaker 1: you gets more than that market pe. Look around the NFL. 1244 01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:35,200 Speaker 1: Look at the offensive linement. I know they're bad. There's 1245 01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:39,439 Speaker 1: some bad linemen in this league. I mean, okay, is 1246 01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:42,800 Speaker 1: he better than Donovan Smith in Tampa? Probably? I don't 1247 01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:47,719 Speaker 1: think so. No, Or it's close. It's closed though, Yeah, okay, 1248 01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:55,080 Speaker 1: the Rams started, Rams started Wentworth Whitworth. Wentworth is not 1249 01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:57,880 Speaker 1: his athletic. He's just a crafty dude. He's like went 1250 01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:01,960 Speaker 1: Worth better. He is better. Yeah, he's hurt now, but 1251 01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:05,800 Speaker 1: he's better. But there are he's not better. There's certain 1252 01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:07,920 Speaker 1: there's a lot of better starting now that aren't gonna 1253 01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:09,840 Speaker 1: be around either, so maybe there will be a market 1254 01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:14,479 Speaker 1: work like Jason Peters. Um, I mean he's he was 1255 01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:18,559 Speaker 1: terrible yesterday. Yeah, he's struggling and his body's breaking down, 1256 01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:23,920 Speaker 1: though he was a great player. Breaking down. Um, but 1257 01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:26,120 Speaker 1: you have big to your point, and this is where 1258 01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:29,080 Speaker 1: you're like, you have big decisions. I'm not paying him 1259 01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:31,200 Speaker 1: like a franchise left tackle because I haven't seen that 1260 01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:36,080 Speaker 1: this year. But I don't think putting Let's call it 1261 01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:39,320 Speaker 1: between ten and fifteen million. Just make that the range 1262 01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:44,639 Speaker 1: beat in your left tackle? Right? Could you know above 1263 01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:46,960 Speaker 1: average plays out of the realm with it? Where the 1264 01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:50,920 Speaker 1: cap and how guys are getting paid right now? Okay, 1265 01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:57,000 Speaker 1: so twelve million is fair. I don't think he takes 1266 01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:59,840 Speaker 1: it now, let me he goes he goes to the 1267 01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:03,400 Speaker 1: agency to see if you get more. Here's another question, 1268 01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:06,720 Speaker 1: speaking of free agency. Are you sure you can attract 1269 01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:10,960 Speaker 1: the free agent you want at that position the right money, 1270 01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:12,800 Speaker 1: You'll try, you can get him anywhere. Here's the thing, 1271 01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:15,960 Speaker 1: you're not gonna go fund. There's no there's no franchise 1272 01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:18,920 Speaker 1: left tackles coming up in free agency. Come on, guys. 1273 01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:22,400 Speaker 1: Well no, but but you got a draft one then okay, 1274 01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:24,400 Speaker 1: But then Pete, you also need to you also want 1275 01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:27,080 Speaker 1: to tight end. You also need a pass rusher, you 1276 01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:32,080 Speaker 1: also need uh probably a safety you also need you know, 1277 01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:37,519 Speaker 1: but aren't you compounding your problems by over paying a 1278 01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:40,840 Speaker 1: guy just to fill the spot. I'm not saying over 1279 01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:44,519 Speaker 1: pay him. I get what you're saying. I'm not saying 1280 01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:48,200 Speaker 1: I wouldn't pay him sixteen seventeen eighteen, nowhere close to 1281 01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:51,080 Speaker 1: twenty million dollars a year. I wouldn't do it because 1282 01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:53,080 Speaker 1: I haven't seen that that maybe in the last six 1283 01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:55,559 Speaker 1: games a year, he's just dominant and things look better, 1284 01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:57,760 Speaker 1: and possibly I'd still be worried because it's a one 1285 01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:00,280 Speaker 1: year sample size of this will be his best year's 1286 01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:02,599 Speaker 1: contract here. We've seen that story in the league before 1287 01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:07,599 Speaker 1: of how that works. Yeah, yeah, I just I think 1288 01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:12,639 Speaker 1: you've got to be concerned a little bit about him 1289 01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:15,639 Speaker 1: playing his best football this year and this is this 1290 01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:22,680 Speaker 1: is it, this is what you get and so But 1291 01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:24,720 Speaker 1: at the same time, I understand, I gotta someone has 1292 01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:30,080 Speaker 1: to play left tackle somebody, right, And you're just saying, 1293 01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:32,000 Speaker 1: go draft a guy, Okay, I gotta draft a lot 1294 01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:37,160 Speaker 1: of guys, Tony. I understand that, but you're also saying 1295 01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:42,080 Speaker 1: let's just play on with him just because I'm not 1296 01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:45,519 Speaker 1: saying that. I'm just thinking smart when you're when you're 1297 01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:48,400 Speaker 1: building a team before you just start cutting guys because 1298 01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:51,040 Speaker 1: you're not happy and it's always they stink. You better 1299 01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:52,600 Speaker 1: have someone to replace him with because you have to 1300 01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:55,240 Speaker 1: line up with eleven guys on each side of the ball. Okay, 1301 01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:56,840 Speaker 1: I'll give you. I'll give you a guy that's gonna 1302 01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:59,840 Speaker 1: be a free agent and he's played really well as 1303 01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:12,400 Speaker 1: already stunt before this year, Garrett Bold year. Okay, but 1304 01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:15,040 Speaker 1: he's still but he's still light in the rear end 1305 01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:18,960 Speaker 1: and gets pushed. I'm not playing you, But if you 1306 01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:22,599 Speaker 1: put those two side by side, I bet your bowls 1307 01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:27,080 Speaker 1: gets more money, can more physical. That's just that there 1308 01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:31,200 Speaker 1: aren't any guys on the market. You can't. That's I mean, 1309 01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:35,160 Speaker 1: then you're betting on the draft. Well, if that's the case, 1310 01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:37,200 Speaker 1: he's gonna go in and say, you know what, I'm 1311 01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:38,760 Speaker 1: going to go test the market and see what I'm 1312 01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:41,840 Speaker 1: gonna get. And that I mean, but then you have 1313 01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:45,439 Speaker 1: to use do you transition tagon? What is the ass 1314 01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:49,519 Speaker 1: probably what the that's probably what they will do, Transition Tagon. 1315 01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:53,000 Speaker 1: If you're losing me, get a draft pick, right, that's 1316 01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:56,479 Speaker 1: probably what they'll do. I mean that's what I would do. Well, 1317 01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:58,639 Speaker 1: I just said, now you're copying me, that's what I said. 1318 01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:02,360 Speaker 1: But but again, what's what's the top what's the top 1319 01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:05,240 Speaker 1: what's the top ten number for? Because it isn't Transition 1320 01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:08,960 Speaker 1: tech average in the top ten? Uh? Yeah, So what 1321 01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:15,160 Speaker 1: do you think that's the highest? What's what's the tent? 1322 01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:21,880 Speaker 1: The higher, that's for sure, I'll find in a second. 1323 01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:25,360 Speaker 1: But you know, if you add one in the draft 1324 01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:29,479 Speaker 1: and he stepped in and play right away, and the 1325 01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:30,800 Speaker 1: answer to that quite If you're at them in the 1326 01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:36,400 Speaker 1: first round, you can, okay, but Pete, if you the 1327 01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:39,559 Speaker 1: Rams are pretty good and so they're gonna be picking. 1328 01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:45,839 Speaker 1: Let's say between twenty two and right, you're not finding 1329 01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:48,400 Speaker 1: a guy that you're quit comfortable with. You're not finding 1330 01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:52,599 Speaker 1: back then, No, not finding Have you watched the Browns 1331 01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:56,160 Speaker 1: on tape yet this year? Yeah? What do you think it? Will? 1332 01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:59,680 Speaker 1: I think he's a good player. You would take that 1333 01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:02,360 Speaker 1: and put him in left? Would you take Wills over Robinson? 1334 01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:05,800 Speaker 1: I've only watched like one or two games. I haven't 1335 01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:08,640 Speaker 1: watching that. Let's be unfair. But like I'll tell you, 1336 01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:11,559 Speaker 1: I like the kid of Tampa, the right tackle they got. 1337 01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:15,880 Speaker 1: He's good. He's really good. The kid, the kid and 1338 01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:19,040 Speaker 1: the Giants is struggling, but he'll be Okay, yeah, playing 1339 01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:21,240 Speaker 1: better the last couple. But these are all guys taken 1340 01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:25,160 Speaker 1: in the top half of the draft. They're not there. Well, 1341 01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:28,240 Speaker 1: the Vikings picked the tackle later in the first round. 1342 01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:33,760 Speaker 1: He's now starting at right guard. Okay, that doesn't That 1343 01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:37,720 Speaker 1: doesn't solve your left tackle. So basically, so what does 1344 01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:40,800 Speaker 1: solve your left tackle? The pay and paid Robinson million 1345 01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:42,720 Speaker 1: dollars a year doesn't solve your left backing spot either. 1346 01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:45,760 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it doesn't. It just fills it. We got 1347 01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:49,000 Speaker 1: a time, Well, we gotta take a time. We'll come back. 1348 01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:51,920 Speaker 1: We'll finish this conversation because this could go on for 1349 01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:54,800 Speaker 1: a while. 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Jaguars Happy Hour is presented in 1411 01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:30,639 Speaker 1: part by t i A, a bank created to serve, 1412 01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:35,000 Speaker 1: built to perform, publis where shopping is a pleasure and 1413 01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:41,719 Speaker 1: Baptist Health, changing healthcare for good. Welcome back Jaguars Happy 1414 01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:46,160 Speaker 1: Hour on this Monday, the day after a loss to 1415 01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:50,599 Speaker 1: the Steelers. J P Shadrick, Pete Prisco, Tony Vaselli. It's 1416 01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:53,879 Speaker 1: time now for our favorite segment each week, Social Questions. 1417 01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:55,960 Speaker 1: We put out the bat signal early in the day, 1418 01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:59,280 Speaker 1: and here's what we've come up with on this fine 1419 01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:07,080 Speaker 1: Monday afternoons. Starting with question number one, Anthony Brown Jr. 1420 01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:09,759 Speaker 1: I am firmly in the camp of keeping Dave Caldwell 1421 01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:12,240 Speaker 1: and Doug Marron. I think coach Maron has done great 1422 01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:14,639 Speaker 1: this year. Also with their record, they would be able 1423 01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:16,880 Speaker 1: to coach the Senior Bowl, which would give them a 1424 01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:20,479 Speaker 1: leg up in the draft. I didn't see a question there, Pete. 1425 01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:26,160 Speaker 1: But yeah, look, I don't see that happening. I just don't. 1426 01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:29,040 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think they're coming back one in fifteen. 1427 01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:31,000 Speaker 1: How do you sell that to your fan base? I 1428 01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:34,040 Speaker 1: don't think you can. Come on, let's be honest about it. JP, 1429 01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:37,320 Speaker 1: there's no way. Yeah, I mean, it's and as far 1430 01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:40,360 Speaker 1: as coaching the Senior Bowl. That's very helpful if you 1431 01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:42,759 Speaker 1: do coach a senior Bowl. If there is a Senior Bowl. 1432 01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:48,280 Speaker 1: We coached three in a row, Pete, I know, but 1433 01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:53,920 Speaker 1: it usually helpful. Three found guys in it. Three Which 1434 01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:57,320 Speaker 1: on which ones Diday coach they coached would have been 1435 01:21:57,360 --> 01:22:04,879 Speaker 1: what fifteen sixteen fourteen fifteen sixteen? Yeah, yeah, should be helpful. 1436 01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:09,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean mobile is cool and all. I 1437 01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:10,880 Speaker 1: mean we were there for a few days in a 1438 01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:14,240 Speaker 1: week and all that stuff. I mean like mobile. But alright, 1439 01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:17,160 Speaker 1: let's move on social number for you. This is at 1440 01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:21,000 Speaker 1: CF Zeller's for what's the one quality you will look 1441 01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:25,520 Speaker 1: for above the rest for a head coach? Inspirational, spirited, offensive, 1442 01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:29,559 Speaker 1: guru coaching, three roots attitude. Not at all trying to 1443 01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:32,000 Speaker 1: pile on Doug with the expectations that were set this 1444 01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:35,559 Speaker 1: year are what they are. Great show what do you think, Pete? 1445 01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:41,160 Speaker 1: Being able to things for me, being able to lead 1446 01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:45,680 Speaker 1: men and delegate. And by that I mean if you 1447 01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:48,840 Speaker 1: hire good coaches, let them coach. If you believe in 1448 01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:51,840 Speaker 1: nothing them got those guys to hire them, let them coach. 1449 01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:55,040 Speaker 1: But you gotta be able to handle the big picture 1450 01:22:55,880 --> 01:23:01,320 Speaker 1: clock management. Uh, discipline, all the the things that I 1451 01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:03,760 Speaker 1: think it takes to be a head coach. You don't 1452 01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:05,320 Speaker 1: have to be you don't have to be the guy 1453 01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:07,360 Speaker 1: making the game plan. You don't have to be the 1454 01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:11,360 Speaker 1: guy calling the play. And you see that a lot 1455 01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:13,600 Speaker 1: with some of that. You know, Mike Tomlin handles the 1456 01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:15,439 Speaker 1: big picture and I think he does a great job 1457 01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:18,240 Speaker 1: with it. Yeah, manage everybody and get the right people 1458 01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:20,080 Speaker 1: in place to do all that, and then you just 1459 01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:23,240 Speaker 1: know how to handle people. Yeah, you handle your people, 1460 01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:25,439 Speaker 1: You handle your coaches, You let your coaches coach, and 1461 01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:27,920 Speaker 1: you handle your players. You treat them with respect, you 1462 01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:30,960 Speaker 1: treat them like men. And but you also have to 1463 01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:33,640 Speaker 1: have a firm hand. You can't let what happened in 1464 01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:36,920 Speaker 1: Jacksonville in two thousand and seventeen and eighteen happen again. 1465 01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:39,160 Speaker 1: And if you have the right guy, he's not going 1466 01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:43,439 Speaker 1: to allow that to happen again. Our next question from 1467 01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:48,320 Speaker 1: at Waco Grina from down in Argentina. Hey, they're good afternoon. 1468 01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:51,240 Speaker 1: The JP Pete and Tony trio on Monday is amazing. 1469 01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:55,240 Speaker 1: Draft mode for Tony is best player available. But which 1470 01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:58,160 Speaker 1: are the most needed positions to draft and which ones 1471 01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:05,040 Speaker 1: can be addressed in free agency salutos best player available. 1472 01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:09,280 Speaker 1: You have to draft the quarterback at number two. If 1473 01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:12,280 Speaker 1: there are number two, they're taking just the field. If 1474 01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:14,760 Speaker 1: it's not, you know, if he's you have to that's 1475 01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:17,280 Speaker 1: that's a given. But I think this is one of 1476 01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:20,479 Speaker 1: those things, and Tony kind of nailed it. It's been 1477 01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:23,960 Speaker 1: a philosophy of mine for a long time. JP you 1478 01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:28,519 Speaker 1: draft around the quarterback, and I've always said this, it 1479 01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:30,800 Speaker 1: used to be a four pronged approached the draft, and 1480 01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:34,400 Speaker 1: you draft the quarterback, You draft the guy who can 1481 01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:37,040 Speaker 1: knock down the quarterback. You draft the guy who can 1482 01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:39,559 Speaker 1: keep that guy from knocking down the quarterback, which is 1483 01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:44,080 Speaker 1: your offensive lineman tackle preferably, you draft the guy who 1484 01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:47,839 Speaker 1: knocks the quarterback passes down, which is the wide receiver. 1485 01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:50,559 Speaker 1: And now the way the game is played, you have 1486 01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:52,599 Speaker 1: to add a fifth to that, and that's the big 1487 01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:56,000 Speaker 1: play wide receiver. It's become a five pronged approach to 1488 01:24:56,160 --> 01:25:00,120 Speaker 1: winning and drafting. And if you fill those spots and 1489 01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:03,240 Speaker 1: they're all good players, probably gonna have a pretty done 1490 01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:06,120 Speaker 1: good team. That your hand was right in the camera 1491 01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:11,120 Speaker 1: there for those watching on the video, I mean, right, yeah, 1492 01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:14,920 Speaker 1: if you have those five players. If you have a 1493 01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:20,439 Speaker 1: star pass rusher, a star quarterback, a really quality left tackle, 1494 01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:23,519 Speaker 1: a corner who could play man coverage and lockdown one 1495 01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:26,760 Speaker 1: side of the field, and a big play receiver, your 1496 01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:28,960 Speaker 1: team is probably gonna be pretty good. Haven't they done 1497 01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:31,040 Speaker 1: that around here? Last few years? They thought they did. 1498 01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:32,960 Speaker 1: They just didn't pick the right guys or those guys 1499 01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:37,560 Speaker 1: are now on other teams. Think it well, Okay, the 1500 01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:43,240 Speaker 1: quarterbacks they flopped. Major quarterback drafts post them all left 1501 01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:49,120 Speaker 1: which flop, never flop. Right, there's your over, so you're 1502 01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:55,280 Speaker 1: over at that position. Pass rusher, dte fowler flop. Uh. 1503 01:25:55,400 --> 01:25:58,679 Speaker 1: Josh Allen good to be determined how good he can be. 1504 01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:03,040 Speaker 1: Chase On is the nothing um so that's you know, 1505 01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:06,120 Speaker 1: and go Way was a hit sort of but but 1506 01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:10,320 Speaker 1: he was the third round right, Yeah, sorry, we're talking 1507 01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:12,639 Speaker 1: about your your now that Tony's back. Your your approach. 1508 01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:14,160 Speaker 1: You talk about being good on the line and being 1509 01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:15,680 Speaker 1: good on the quarterback. And I have always had the 1510 01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:18,719 Speaker 1: four proNT approach. The drafting is now a five probct approach. 1511 01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:22,040 Speaker 1: You get the quarterback, the guy who knocks the quarterback down, 1512 01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:24,040 Speaker 1: the guy who protects the quarterback, and keeps those guys 1513 01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:25,920 Speaker 1: from knocking them down, and the guy who knocks the 1514 01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:29,200 Speaker 1: cornerbacks passes down on the outside of the corner. If 1515 01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:31,200 Speaker 1: you get those four and I've added the big play 1516 01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:32,840 Speaker 1: receiver because of the way the game is played now, 1517 01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:35,479 Speaker 1: but you get those five, the team is probably gonna 1518 01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:38,240 Speaker 1: be pretty good. So I would argue it's hard to 1519 01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:41,840 Speaker 1: get all those. Number One, past pass rusher is more 1520 01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:44,719 Speaker 1: important than d B every day of the week. Yes, 1521 01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:47,519 Speaker 1: of course I agree, and so like, just focus on this, 1522 01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:51,040 Speaker 1: Go find go find a quarterback, Go find a pass rusher, 1523 01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:53,679 Speaker 1: and go find people who can protect quarterback. Go do that. 1524 01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:55,640 Speaker 1: You're going to be a good team. If you can 1525 01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:58,120 Speaker 1: protect the quarterback and control the line of scrimmage with 1526 01:26:58,280 --> 01:27:01,000 Speaker 1: a good quarterback, you're gonna be good. If you can 1527 01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:04,240 Speaker 1: rush the quarterback and hit him, then guess what, your 1528 01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:09,000 Speaker 1: secondary gets a lot better. Of course, But but again 1529 01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:12,200 Speaker 1: I thought that tackle is more important than getting the guards. 1530 01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:18,600 Speaker 1: Um Drew Brees would disagree with you. He wants he 1531 01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:23,040 Speaker 1: wants a firm inside because he's like the two best 1532 01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:26,479 Speaker 1: positions on his line of the right tackle. I agree 1533 01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:28,720 Speaker 1: with you, that's fair, But my point is saying this, 1534 01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:31,360 Speaker 1: I was talking to the defensive coordinator, very well respected 1535 01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:35,640 Speaker 1: whose coaches good defenses and everyone listening. It's not it 1536 01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:39,360 Speaker 1: was not Gus Bradley with someone else. Um that UM 1537 01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:45,040 Speaker 1: told me is his corners well to like come say, 1538 01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:47,040 Speaker 1: it's like, hey, where's the pass rush? Because they know 1539 01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:52,960 Speaker 1: could you only can cover so long? If you like, 1540 01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:54,679 Speaker 1: let me tell you what you want to know. Where 1541 01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:57,320 Speaker 1: the Rams defense is. Past defense is really good. It's 1542 01:27:57,360 --> 01:27:58,920 Speaker 1: not like Jalen Rams is a big part of it. 1543 01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:01,479 Speaker 1: He's a very good player. But they're good because they 1544 01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:04,720 Speaker 1: can rush the passer with four they have thirty one 1545 01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:10,880 Speaker 1: sacks their second and there the league attack. They pressures right. 1546 01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:15,080 Speaker 1: But but again, you know, there's this whole perception out 1547 01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:18,320 Speaker 1: there now in analytic world that the dbs are more 1548 01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:21,320 Speaker 1: important than the than the defensive line, and I don't 1549 01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:25,680 Speaker 1: believe it. One better with you, Let's get to our 1550 01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:30,240 Speaker 1: next question from at UCF Jaguar. How much of this 1551 01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:34,439 Speaker 1: is bad drafting versus not developing talent? Our players are 1552 01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:38,799 Speaker 1: always regressing. No way, Guys like Juwan Taylor, Josh Allen, 1553 01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:42,200 Speaker 1: and DJ Chart should be worse than they were last year. 1554 01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:48,320 Speaker 1: And I don't think DJ Shark is well he was 1555 01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:52,120 Speaker 1: banged up though. Yeah, but he's playing with bad quarterbacks. 1556 01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:54,160 Speaker 1: He's like, he better watch out. He'd end up being 1557 01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:56,120 Speaker 1: like Allen Robinson, never being able to play with a 1558 01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:58,760 Speaker 1: good quarterback. Yeah. I don't think it's I don't think 1559 01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:03,840 Speaker 1: it's dj I just a good duj um. But the 1560 01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:09,439 Speaker 1: other two have regressed, well, Josh Allen's been hurt. And 1561 01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:11,760 Speaker 1: how hurt is that? We don't know. Yeah, he's been 1562 01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:16,160 Speaker 1: hurting a couple of games. J Want Taylor has been 1563 01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:22,040 Speaker 1: as regrets or at least he don't say he hasn't improved. 1564 01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:27,360 Speaker 1: It hasn't improved. Um, I I think I mean, I 1565 01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:29,360 Speaker 1: think it's more. I think it's drafting more than anything. 1566 01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:32,280 Speaker 1: To look at the overall roster. It's the roster billboard 1567 01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:34,439 Speaker 1: than anything. If you're asking me and people, and people 1568 01:29:34,439 --> 01:29:37,080 Speaker 1: will say, well, they didn't have an off season to 1569 01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:40,160 Speaker 1: get better and do their and but you've seen other 1570 01:29:40,160 --> 01:29:42,160 Speaker 1: guys on other teams get better from year one the 1571 01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:44,320 Speaker 1: year two. But people, what would you say if you 1572 01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:47,200 Speaker 1: looked at where this organization is right now? Is it 1573 01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:53,760 Speaker 1: more coaching or more player acquisition? Acquisition? We've run through 1574 01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:56,120 Speaker 1: this before. Yeah, but but you could point to a 1575 01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:58,840 Speaker 1: guy like Jawan Taylor and put it on the coach. Okay, 1576 01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:01,720 Speaker 1: but yeah, that's one off. I'm looking at fifty three guys, right, 1577 01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:05,439 Speaker 1: But but I thought Jowan Taylor was gonna look like 1578 01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:09,800 Speaker 1: a monster this year and it hasn't happened. He's been inconsistent. 1579 01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:15,280 Speaker 1: Is that on the coach staff? On him? So it 1580 01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:19,960 Speaker 1: ultimately on the guy. What is he doing? You're an 1581 01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:21,840 Speaker 1: offensive line and you're a tackle, you're gonna go to 1582 01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:25,160 Speaker 1: all fame? What's he doing wrong? His hands aren't great, 1583 01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:28,360 Speaker 1: he turns too much, thank you's too vertical at times, 1584 01:30:28,400 --> 01:30:31,479 Speaker 1: he doesn't make good like he gave up a pressure 1585 01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:34,720 Speaker 1: hit just like poor set like like and it was 1586 01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:37,920 Speaker 1: like almost like a not recognizing the situation who you're 1587 01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:41,120 Speaker 1: blocking and where the guy you know, into your guys 1588 01:30:41,160 --> 01:30:42,720 Speaker 1: lined up, and what you're trying to do. It's like 1589 01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:45,320 Speaker 1: it was just like lack of Where is that the 1590 01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:47,720 Speaker 1: one where t J. Watt came around and and he 1591 01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:50,680 Speaker 1: looked like he came from black to get in there 1592 01:30:50,720 --> 01:30:54,640 Speaker 1: and get him. It wasn't like he was he was outside. 1593 01:30:54,760 --> 01:30:56,360 Speaker 1: It was I mean, it's a look you should know 1594 01:30:56,439 --> 01:30:59,680 Speaker 1: exactly what's coming, and so that stuff mental more than 1595 01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:02,799 Speaker 1: fit a cool I mean he can play. I'm convinced 1596 01:31:02,840 --> 01:31:05,439 Speaker 1: he could play. Yeah, I thought he would be a 1597 01:31:05,479 --> 01:31:07,439 Speaker 1: star this year. I thought he would be one of 1598 01:31:07,439 --> 01:31:12,240 Speaker 1: the better right tackles in the league this year. Alright, 1599 01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:15,519 Speaker 1: one final question here, Um, this actually is not even 1600 01:31:15,560 --> 01:31:18,400 Speaker 1: a question, it's a comment at Janko Jack nine O four. 1601 01:31:18,439 --> 01:31:20,840 Speaker 1: At this point, I'd be more entertained watching Bassell and 1602 01:31:20,840 --> 01:31:23,960 Speaker 1: Prisco in a boxing match every Sunday than watching seeing 1603 01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:27,280 Speaker 1: every week. My money is on BASSELLI Prisco looks like 1604 01:31:27,320 --> 01:31:29,240 Speaker 1: you would punch below the belt, seeing that he's four 1605 01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:33,920 Speaker 1: ft three. Wow, that's a shot. Well, hey, I'm not 1606 01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:36,599 Speaker 1: four ft three. But b if I'm fighting Tony Boselli, 1607 01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:38,680 Speaker 1: I'm punching him. You know where I'm punching Hi, it's 1608 01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:43,200 Speaker 1: gonna hurt like this way. Tony would have a higher 1609 01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:49,519 Speaker 1: pitched voice singing Pete and I don't want to fight. 1610 01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:54,080 Speaker 1: He would abuse me. He's a big man. It looks 1611 01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:55,760 Speaker 1: like it would hurt too. It's just I'm too old 1612 01:31:55,760 --> 01:31:59,920 Speaker 1: to fight. Who wants to go? I'd go shoulder first, 1613 01:32:00,280 --> 01:32:06,559 Speaker 1: hips I would just say it's all you congratulated, you win. 1614 01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:09,320 Speaker 1: I don't want to get thrown around by a big man. 1615 01:32:09,400 --> 01:32:12,200 Speaker 1: I'll tell you that right now. I love it. Social 1616 01:32:12,280 --> 01:32:16,360 Speaker 1: questions are done. Thank you for the submissions today. We'll 1617 01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:19,719 Speaker 1: be back with more next week. 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Three Steelers are 1684 01:36:25,320 --> 01:36:28,400 Speaker 1: ten and oh the Jaguars are not there one and nine. 1685 01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:31,200 Speaker 1: They've lost nine straight. It's time now for the a 1686 01:36:31,360 --> 01:36:35,439 Speaker 1: f C South. How are rankings and review? You're shaking 1687 01:36:35,479 --> 01:36:37,040 Speaker 1: your head, Pete, what are you shaking your head out? 1688 01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:43,960 Speaker 1: Because stealers have a legitimate chance to go undefeated. Well 1689 01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:48,759 Speaker 1: they have for Thursday night. No, Baltimore is bad right now. 1690 01:36:51,320 --> 01:36:53,799 Speaker 1: Then they have the toughest game remaining is at Buffalo. 1691 01:36:56,000 --> 01:37:00,360 Speaker 1: You guys a game I losing that one. Yeah, that's it. 1692 01:37:01,640 --> 01:37:03,759 Speaker 1: You know what's gonna happen. They're gonna clinch the division 1693 01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:06,599 Speaker 1: on Thursday night essentially and be jocking for home field 1694 01:37:06,600 --> 01:37:08,519 Speaker 1: advtage of people are saying, oh, it might be better 1695 01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:13,080 Speaker 1: off if they lose a game. No, it's not win 1696 01:37:13,160 --> 01:37:18,400 Speaker 1: them all. Let's look around the AFC South. Yesterday, the 1697 01:37:18,439 --> 01:37:21,080 Speaker 1: Titans over the Ravens in overtime, thirty to twenty four. 1698 01:37:21,120 --> 01:37:23,880 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry to the house in the extra period. Pete 1699 01:37:25,240 --> 01:37:29,080 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, Man, they passing game is so limited. This 1700 01:37:29,120 --> 01:37:31,479 Speaker 1: is a passing league, and you keep teams in the game. 1701 01:37:32,080 --> 01:37:35,320 Speaker 1: That's what's gonna happen. Uh. I went back and I 1702 01:37:35,360 --> 01:37:37,280 Speaker 1: actually was doing something on him today and I went back. 1703 01:37:37,600 --> 01:37:40,800 Speaker 1: He's starting like fifty fewer passes on first down than 1704 01:37:40,880 --> 01:37:43,960 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and Josh Allen, both quarterbacks who move around. 1705 01:37:44,080 --> 01:37:46,720 Speaker 1: They gotta let him throw an early downs war. Let 1706 01:37:46,720 --> 01:37:49,599 Speaker 1: it happen. If he can't do it. Then you got 1707 01:37:49,640 --> 01:37:52,280 Speaker 1: the wrong guy. Let him let him play fast and 1708 01:37:52,360 --> 01:37:55,800 Speaker 1: free and first down. Yeah, And I mean, I think 1709 01:37:56,120 --> 01:37:58,880 Speaker 1: here's the other thing is they got. I mean, you're right, 1710 01:38:00,280 --> 01:38:04,120 Speaker 1: his ability to runs great, but it can't be everything. 1711 01:38:04,439 --> 01:38:06,960 Speaker 1: You cannot. I don't think you could win consistently if 1712 01:38:07,000 --> 01:38:09,360 Speaker 1: that's the only thing you could do. And and I 1713 01:38:09,400 --> 01:38:11,320 Speaker 1: think he's regrets because I thought he was doing I 1714 01:38:11,360 --> 01:38:13,280 Speaker 1: thought he was better last year. In the pocket, they're 1715 01:38:13,360 --> 01:38:16,439 Speaker 1: throwing the ball and now you know this was you know, 1716 01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:20,200 Speaker 1: maybe a couple of weeks ago. But Hollywood Brown their 1717 01:38:20,240 --> 01:38:22,920 Speaker 1: four and first round pick, not happy again. Zero catches, 1718 01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:25,960 Speaker 1: three targets, zero catches. But you know what to Tony. 1719 01:38:26,040 --> 01:38:29,639 Speaker 1: Teams are playing more nickel and dime against him, playing 1720 01:38:29,680 --> 01:38:33,040 Speaker 1: more man and on third down particularly, and they're asking 1721 01:38:33,120 --> 01:38:34,920 Speaker 1: him to go make the accurate throw and he's not 1722 01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:37,000 Speaker 1: making it. You know, when you play, when you run 1723 01:38:37,040 --> 01:38:38,479 Speaker 1: the ball like he runs the ball, you can play 1724 01:38:38,520 --> 01:38:41,160 Speaker 1: that zone and he'll stick it in the tight endle 1725 01:38:41,200 --> 01:38:42,600 Speaker 1: curl in the middle of it. You'll hit him for 1726 01:38:42,600 --> 01:38:46,200 Speaker 1: a past. But now there's not they're not really worried 1727 01:38:46,200 --> 01:38:48,680 Speaker 1: about it as much. In the offensive line, and the 1728 01:38:48,720 --> 01:38:51,200 Speaker 1: offensive lines beat up and you know they've got all 1729 01:38:51,280 --> 01:38:54,439 Speaker 1: kinds of issues, right, Stanley out Scurre, they bench because 1730 01:38:54,439 --> 01:38:56,719 Speaker 1: he can't snap all of a sudden, something's going on there, 1731 01:38:56,760 --> 01:38:59,680 Speaker 1: I mean, and then and then no, they didn't have 1732 01:38:59,720 --> 01:39:01,760 Speaker 1: be on to this year, which hurt them a great deal. 1733 01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:06,680 Speaker 1: But yeah, again though it's more him he's got I 1734 01:39:06,720 --> 01:39:10,600 Speaker 1: think again, this happened with Kaepernick when Roman ran the 1735 01:39:10,640 --> 01:39:16,160 Speaker 1: Kaepernick offense. Eventually it leveled off because people did they 1736 01:39:16,200 --> 01:39:19,840 Speaker 1: figure it out. Yeah, but the Titans given credit because 1737 01:39:19,840 --> 01:39:22,759 Speaker 1: they were done in that game. They were down eleven. 1738 01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:24,320 Speaker 1: I didn't think they were gonna be able and jan 1739 01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:26,160 Speaker 1: I was scattered shooting it all over the place for 1740 01:39:26,200 --> 01:39:27,920 Speaker 1: a while, and they found the way to come back. 1741 01:39:27,960 --> 01:39:29,840 Speaker 1: You gotta give their tough, their physical and that was 1742 01:39:29,840 --> 01:39:32,040 Speaker 1: a big win for them. What was what was going 1743 01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:36,920 Speaker 1: on between Harbor They kind of celebrated on the logo. 1744 01:39:37,080 --> 01:39:40,040 Speaker 1: I think the Titans and Hardball took offense to it 1745 01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:41,960 Speaker 1: and that's where they got in. There was some pregame 1746 01:39:42,040 --> 01:39:45,320 Speaker 1: stuff too, right, the Titans guys and the Ravens coaches 1747 01:39:45,320 --> 01:39:48,439 Speaker 1: were laughing at each other pre game. Yep, yep, let 1748 01:39:48,479 --> 01:39:50,920 Speaker 1: mean to say that's not that's I mean Harbor wants 1749 01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:56,720 Speaker 1: none of that. Would not well that we played it 1750 01:39:56,720 --> 01:40:00,080 Speaker 1: out on that bbel Don't you think Rabels the the 1751 01:40:00,280 --> 01:40:03,760 Speaker 1: thirty two fight off between the enda like coaches. He's 1752 01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:10,280 Speaker 1: the last one standing. Let me go through real quick. Um, 1753 01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:12,280 Speaker 1: I think Doug will get some shots in, but he 1754 01:40:12,280 --> 01:40:15,080 Speaker 1: would he would be like Pete. He would he would 1755 01:40:15,120 --> 01:40:18,439 Speaker 1: play a little dirty just because that's okay. I think 1756 01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:21,960 Speaker 1: Doug would be a good match. I mean he's a 1757 01:40:21,960 --> 01:40:24,360 Speaker 1: big dog dog would beat Doug. Would be good. But 1758 01:40:24,439 --> 01:40:27,599 Speaker 1: what about um, like back in the day, not now. 1759 01:40:27,720 --> 01:40:29,439 Speaker 1: Ron Rivera would have been a good fight back in 1760 01:40:29,479 --> 01:40:31,559 Speaker 1: the day. But Ron, I bet you still have some 1761 01:40:31,640 --> 01:40:34,879 Speaker 1: fight in him. He'd be like, okay, let me tell you. 1762 01:40:34,880 --> 01:40:37,160 Speaker 1: You know, Jack del Rio might have been that right 1763 01:40:37,360 --> 01:40:41,360 Speaker 1: Bell Belichick would have some scheme he tried to figure out. Yeah, 1764 01:40:42,640 --> 01:40:45,120 Speaker 1: we all know. Yeah, it would be even fun to 1765 01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:47,040 Speaker 1: see who would who would be? I think Rabel would 1766 01:40:47,080 --> 01:40:53,640 Speaker 1: be one of the last men's standing. I think Rivera Rabel. Yeah, 1767 01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:56,479 Speaker 1: then there's some sneaky guys like I think Anthony Lynn 1768 01:40:56,520 --> 01:41:01,920 Speaker 1: is sneaky tough. He's another one for I forgot it. Yeah, 1769 01:41:02,000 --> 01:41:04,599 Speaker 1: you would be there definitely in the end. He Carroll 1770 01:41:04,680 --> 01:41:09,679 Speaker 1: your first one out. No, yeah, he'd be one of them. 1771 01:41:10,280 --> 01:41:13,080 Speaker 1: He's out of there. Uh. Texans over the Patriots, by 1772 01:41:13,080 --> 01:41:19,200 Speaker 1: the way, bad boss, bad loss for the Patriots. Yeah, 1773 01:41:19,920 --> 01:41:22,519 Speaker 1: good win for the Texans. I mean they you know 1774 01:41:22,560 --> 01:41:24,080 Speaker 1: what the Texas did. They came out and they threw 1775 01:41:24,080 --> 01:41:26,599 Speaker 1: the ball and early down. They had been doing much 1776 01:41:26,640 --> 01:41:30,040 Speaker 1: more of that with without Phil O'Brien and Deshaun Wantson 1777 01:41:30,040 --> 01:41:32,720 Speaker 1: played better. Yeah, that's a bad loss for Patriots. But 1778 01:41:32,720 --> 01:41:35,719 Speaker 1: that's a good win for the Texas. I mean alive, 1779 01:41:36,320 --> 01:41:39,760 Speaker 1: but probably I thought I thought the Patriots would just 1780 01:41:39,840 --> 01:41:43,280 Speaker 1: Patriots run all over them. I did too, I did too. 1781 01:41:43,400 --> 01:41:46,719 Speaker 1: Didn't happen. The Colts were down big in the game, 1782 01:41:46,760 --> 01:41:49,400 Speaker 1: but they rallied to beat the Packers and overtime. The 1783 01:41:49,439 --> 01:41:52,439 Speaker 1: Packers fumbled in overtime to set up the game winning 1784 01:41:52,479 --> 01:41:54,360 Speaker 1: field goal. And this was a fun game to watch 1785 01:41:54,400 --> 01:41:58,040 Speaker 1: down the stretch. Yeah, the Packers have defensive problems stopping 1786 01:41:58,040 --> 01:41:59,920 Speaker 1: the run and the Colts. The colt should have put 1787 01:41:59,920 --> 01:42:02,160 Speaker 1: the game away in regulation. I don't know if you 1788 01:42:02,160 --> 01:42:04,639 Speaker 1: guys saw that. They're trying to run out the clock 1789 01:42:04,680 --> 01:42:08,280 Speaker 1: and they keep getting a holding penalties. It was amazing. 1790 01:42:08,320 --> 01:42:10,559 Speaker 1: They ended up with a third would could have been 1791 01:42:10,600 --> 01:42:13,120 Speaker 1: a third and third or second and thirty. It took 1792 01:42:13,160 --> 01:42:14,320 Speaker 1: him out, you know, it took him out of field 1793 01:42:14,360 --> 01:42:17,040 Speaker 1: goal range, and they punted and then Rogers went down. 1794 01:42:17,080 --> 01:42:22,559 Speaker 1: And look, the Packers have defensive issues, the Colts might 1795 01:42:22,600 --> 01:42:25,479 Speaker 1: have some offensive issues, and so it kind of evened 1796 01:42:25,479 --> 01:42:27,640 Speaker 1: out there. But they made a place where they had to. 1797 01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:31,519 Speaker 1: Is the offices are the offensive issues for the Colts 1798 01:42:31,800 --> 01:42:34,960 Speaker 1: one Philip Rivers, No, because he didn't actually play that poorly. 1799 01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:39,960 Speaker 1: I think yes. You know, you always talk about the 1800 01:42:40,400 --> 01:42:43,760 Speaker 1: Titans playmakers, Pittman starting to make some plays, but t 1801 01:42:43,960 --> 01:42:47,040 Speaker 1: Y Hillton has been a major disappointment this year. Yeah, 1802 01:42:47,600 --> 01:42:51,200 Speaker 1: all right, quickly, GUYSFC South Power rankings. UM, I have 1803 01:42:51,240 --> 01:42:53,120 Speaker 1: an idea how they're gonna go, and told you already 1804 01:42:53,120 --> 01:42:58,160 Speaker 1: spoiled I passed. No, you gotta say it. He's saying it. 1805 01:42:58,720 --> 01:43:01,880 Speaker 1: One bolt and they'll beat the Titans this week to 1806 01:43:02,040 --> 01:43:06,400 Speaker 1: really take hold of the division. Two Titans, three Texans, 1807 01:43:06,920 --> 01:43:12,879 Speaker 1: and way way down is the Jaguars. But the Jaguars 1808 01:43:13,000 --> 01:43:15,760 Speaker 1: kind of one yesterday. Here's why not only did they 1809 01:43:15,800 --> 01:43:19,160 Speaker 1: lose so they keep their draft position. The Texans one. 1810 01:43:19,560 --> 01:43:22,320 Speaker 1: So now people won't keep saying the only two wins 1811 01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:29,439 Speaker 1: the Texas got came against the jag Wire. Yeah, I'll 1812 01:43:29,439 --> 01:43:32,760 Speaker 1: agree with the same power rankings, um, although I think 1813 01:43:32,800 --> 01:43:35,680 Speaker 1: the Titans too upset the Pulps this week. You do 1814 01:43:36,560 --> 01:43:39,960 Speaker 1: dr back road games, that's top and I don't I 1815 01:43:39,960 --> 01:43:42,320 Speaker 1: don't think they will all Right now, time for the 1816 01:43:42,360 --> 01:43:49,880 Speaker 1: current not so powerful draft order NFL draft. Let's count 1817 01:43:49,920 --> 01:43:53,040 Speaker 1: down from ten to number one as it stands today, 1818 01:43:53,040 --> 01:43:58,080 Speaker 1: Panthers four and seven or draft ten, Falcons three and seven, nine, 1819 01:43:59,000 --> 01:44:01,639 Speaker 1: the Texans eight, but the Dolphins get to pick their 1820 01:44:01,720 --> 01:44:03,920 Speaker 1: three and seven. The Giants at three and seven with 1821 01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:06,960 Speaker 1: draft seventh, the l A Chargers at three and seven 1822 01:44:07,000 --> 01:44:10,439 Speaker 1: will draft six. Washington Football team at three and seven 1823 01:44:10,439 --> 01:44:14,320 Speaker 1: with draft five, the Dallas Cowboys at three and seven 1824 01:44:14,640 --> 01:44:18,920 Speaker 1: would draft fourth, The Cincinnati Bengals at to seven and 1825 01:44:19,000 --> 01:44:23,120 Speaker 1: one would draft third, The Jacksonville Jaguars at one and 1826 01:44:23,280 --> 01:44:27,080 Speaker 1: nine drafting second, and the New York Jets are oh 1827 01:44:27,200 --> 01:44:29,519 Speaker 1: and ten. They have the first overall pick as it 1828 01:44:29,560 --> 01:44:34,240 Speaker 1: stands today, I think the way Jacksonville sitting right now, 1829 01:44:34,280 --> 01:44:38,080 Speaker 1: they're almost a lot to get either Trevor Lawrence or 1830 01:44:38,080 --> 01:44:44,120 Speaker 1: Justin Fields. Well, you can't I mean you have room 1831 01:44:44,200 --> 01:44:45,960 Speaker 1: to win one more. If you win two more and 1832 01:44:46,040 --> 01:44:48,280 Speaker 1: the Bengals don't win another game, which they might not 1833 01:44:48,400 --> 01:44:52,840 Speaker 1: without Joe Burrow, then you gotta worry about people going 1834 01:44:52,920 --> 01:44:54,559 Speaker 1: Then you gotta worry about people going up to get 1835 01:44:54,600 --> 01:45:01,759 Speaker 1: that right, So don't win again. Well, my, that's my advice. 1836 01:45:01,880 --> 01:45:03,840 Speaker 1: Or win one more to make everybody feel good. Then 1837 01:45:03,840 --> 01:45:06,360 Speaker 1: you're locked in to get justin fields. If you win 1838 01:45:06,439 --> 01:45:11,800 Speaker 1: one more, would you rather he's here we go? Would 1839 01:45:11,800 --> 01:45:16,920 Speaker 1: you rather not win another one? Answers that the Jets 1840 01:45:16,920 --> 01:45:21,360 Speaker 1: lose one or win one, and no, you're gonna have that. 1841 01:45:21,680 --> 01:45:23,639 Speaker 1: You're not gonna win another one, and you're locked into 1842 01:45:23,640 --> 01:45:27,560 Speaker 1: at least two. Well, if you're gonna be fourteen or 1843 01:45:27,600 --> 01:45:33,719 Speaker 1: fifteen losses, doesn't matter, you can. So you've come aboard 1844 01:45:33,840 --> 01:45:36,800 Speaker 1: on the one of fifteen. Lock it up, right, you're 1845 01:45:36,800 --> 01:45:39,599 Speaker 1: a green. That's a lot. I'm not there yet, Peters 1846 01:45:39,600 --> 01:45:43,519 Speaker 1: in a lock for you. Oh it's a lock. It's 1847 01:45:43,520 --> 01:45:47,519 Speaker 1: a lot one of fifteen. Lock locked it in. And 1848 01:45:47,560 --> 01:45:50,040 Speaker 1: you know what, that's a good thing because if the 1849 01:45:50,120 --> 01:45:53,720 Speaker 1: Jets win one, you pick first. It depends who you 1850 01:45:54,320 --> 01:45:58,120 Speaker 1: ask that question, too, true. If it's a good the 1851 01:45:58,200 --> 01:46:02,240 Speaker 1: Grand scheme of things again on anybody in the locker room, 1852 01:46:02,320 --> 01:46:05,400 Speaker 1: the brand scheme of things. I would agree with that. 1853 01:46:06,240 --> 01:46:09,559 Speaker 1: I mean, I guarantee you if you ask DJ Chark 1854 01:46:10,320 --> 01:46:14,160 Speaker 1: and the wide receivers if they had a chance next 1855 01:46:14,200 --> 01:46:19,320 Speaker 1: year to play with Trevor Lawrence their games and you 1856 01:46:19,360 --> 01:46:22,160 Speaker 1: put them on that old line detector thing, you know 1857 01:46:22,200 --> 01:46:25,400 Speaker 1: what the sounds gonna be. You know what the sam 1858 01:46:25,479 --> 01:46:28,479 Speaker 1: will be. A d J. Would you rather play with 1859 01:46:28,520 --> 01:46:30,960 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence or win one more game? Oh? I'd rather 1860 01:46:30,960 --> 01:46:40,800 Speaker 1: win one more game. You're terrible. Would you rather have 1861 01:46:40,920 --> 01:46:44,760 Speaker 1: five seven good years with Trevor Lawrence or win one 1862 01:46:44,800 --> 01:46:49,120 Speaker 1: more meaningless game? I think that's an easy question. All right, 1863 01:46:49,200 --> 01:46:52,000 Speaker 1: let's come back. We'll go around the National Football League 1864 01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:55,320 Speaker 1: from yesterday and Monday night football. Tony Boselli has the 1865 01:46:55,360 --> 01:46:59,160 Speaker 1: call tonight in Tampa. We'll preview the game coming up. 1866 01:46:59,200 --> 01:47:08,320 Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. 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We're back, 1925 01:50:28,040 --> 01:50:31,200 Speaker 1: Baby Jaguars Happy Hour coming down the Stretch on this 1926 01:50:31,320 --> 01:50:34,679 Speaker 1: Monday day after the Steelers Jaguars game. J P Shadrick 1927 01:50:34,720 --> 01:50:37,799 Speaker 1: Pete Frisco, Tony Vasselli. Let's go around the National Football 1928 01:50:37,880 --> 01:50:40,599 Speaker 1: League quickly from yesterday. Some other games by the way, 1929 01:50:40,920 --> 01:50:43,719 Speaker 1: The Ravens have added a few guys to the COVID 1930 01:50:43,840 --> 01:50:46,920 Speaker 1: Night team list after the game yesterday. J K. Dobbins 1931 01:50:46,960 --> 01:50:48,719 Speaker 1: one of those, mark Ingram one of those. They played 1932 01:50:48,760 --> 01:50:52,960 Speaker 1: Thursday night. I'm Thanksgiving night. How did they play on Sunday? 1933 01:50:54,439 --> 01:50:57,479 Speaker 1: I don't know, but they tested positive. They try tested 1934 01:50:57,520 --> 01:51:01,880 Speaker 1: posit this morning. I'm being sarcastic. By the way, Um, yeah, 1935 01:51:02,000 --> 01:51:05,320 Speaker 1: I mean they're not gonna play on Thursday, right, So 1936 01:51:06,320 --> 01:51:09,280 Speaker 1: that means Gus Edwards will be your lead running back 1937 01:51:09,320 --> 01:51:11,519 Speaker 1: on Thursday. Means the Steelers about to heaven and know 1938 01:51:12,320 --> 01:51:15,760 Speaker 1: what it means to be better than the Ravens. And 1939 01:51:15,800 --> 01:51:18,120 Speaker 1: the Ravens have issues. That's not a good team right now. 1940 01:51:18,720 --> 01:51:22,840 Speaker 1: And who do they bring up? Yeah, that's a good question. Who. 1941 01:51:23,240 --> 01:51:25,439 Speaker 1: All right, let's let's touch in these other games quickly, 1942 01:51:25,520 --> 01:51:27,719 Speaker 1: go around the league. We'll touch on Monday. Football Compy 1943 01:51:27,760 --> 01:51:32,160 Speaker 1: got Panthers over the Lions twenty to nothing. Lions are done, 1944 01:51:33,280 --> 01:51:40,000 Speaker 1: Pia Patrician, by the way. They blow out the g 1945 01:51:40,200 --> 01:51:43,840 Speaker 1: M two. Yes, I think, yes, it's so there's your 1946 01:51:43,880 --> 01:51:46,479 Speaker 1: there's more competition. I mean, you know you talk about 1947 01:51:46,479 --> 01:51:48,559 Speaker 1: the Falcons. Now there's another group. And then you got 1948 01:51:48,960 --> 01:51:54,000 Speaker 1: the Texas four four teams looking for GM's possibly Browns. 1949 01:51:54,800 --> 01:51:58,360 Speaker 1: Browns over the Eagle seventeen. Big rushing and defensive day 1950 01:51:58,360 --> 01:52:01,120 Speaker 1: for the Browns coming in here next week. They can 1951 01:52:01,240 --> 01:52:03,599 Speaker 1: run the ball, and my goodness, they've got two backs. 1952 01:52:03,600 --> 01:52:07,120 Speaker 1: They've got a good offensive line. Um that team has. 1953 01:52:07,160 --> 01:52:10,600 Speaker 1: I mean, Baker Mayfield is like an afterthought. That team. Offensively, 1954 01:52:10,600 --> 01:52:14,160 Speaker 1: it's about Cream Hunt and Nick Chubb. But the Jaguards 1955 01:52:14,200 --> 01:52:18,320 Speaker 1: get a break though. No Miles Garrett Olivia Vernon played 1956 01:52:18,320 --> 01:52:20,760 Speaker 1: well last week, though he did, he did. But that 1957 01:52:20,840 --> 01:52:22,800 Speaker 1: offensive line are they the best offensive line in the 1958 01:52:22,840 --> 01:52:25,240 Speaker 1: league right now? Tony I've only seen him one and 1959 01:52:25,520 --> 01:52:28,240 Speaker 1: the time I saw him, they're really good because the 1960 01:52:28,240 --> 01:52:32,040 Speaker 1: guards are really good. But Tonia and Teller, the center 1961 01:52:32,080 --> 01:52:34,559 Speaker 1: is good. Uh. And then you look at the right 1962 01:52:34,600 --> 01:52:37,639 Speaker 1: tackle Conquence playing well over there, and their left tackles 1963 01:52:37,640 --> 01:52:39,760 Speaker 1: starting to play better as a rookie. They're they're good 1964 01:52:39,840 --> 01:52:43,759 Speaker 1: up front. When I saw him early, the left tackle 1965 01:52:43,840 --> 01:52:47,160 Speaker 1: was coming along, really physical and the really physical player 1966 01:52:47,160 --> 01:52:48,880 Speaker 1: in the run game though, and they're good at they run. 1967 01:52:48,960 --> 01:52:50,679 Speaker 1: That's all everything they do is based on that run. 1968 01:52:51,080 --> 01:52:56,000 Speaker 1: Everything Saints over the Falcons twenty four nine. How the 1969 01:52:56,080 --> 01:53:01,400 Speaker 1: quarterback position work out Pete. Oh, everybody wanted this. This 1970 01:53:01,439 --> 01:53:05,519 Speaker 1: reminds me of Tebow. I mean, it's like, let's rush 1971 01:53:05,600 --> 01:53:07,840 Speaker 1: him up. Oh my god, Look what he can do 1972 01:53:08,000 --> 01:53:11,599 Speaker 1: is Tebow. Remember how many people held onto the Tebow 1973 01:53:11,640 --> 01:53:14,400 Speaker 1: mania for years and there was one person that held 1974 01:53:14,439 --> 01:53:17,040 Speaker 1: the line and never would break and that was me. 1975 01:53:17,240 --> 01:53:19,439 Speaker 1: And I was right. And I don't think this kid's 1976 01:53:19,479 --> 01:53:22,000 Speaker 1: any good either as a quarterback. Look, all I know 1977 01:53:22,120 --> 01:53:25,479 Speaker 1: is I went there on the sidelines with Bobby Abert. 1978 01:53:25,560 --> 01:53:29,000 Speaker 1: You know Bobby Hebert, he's covered that quarterback there, and 1979 01:53:29,040 --> 01:53:32,439 Speaker 1: we were talking and Bobby and his typical cage and accent, says, 1980 01:53:32,479 --> 01:53:35,679 Speaker 1: I don't know what he sees to him? He doesn't 1981 01:53:35,720 --> 01:53:39,479 Speaker 1: think you could pass? How do you? I didn't see 1982 01:53:39,479 --> 01:53:41,920 Speaker 1: any of the game. A couple it was okay, But 1983 01:53:41,960 --> 01:53:44,080 Speaker 1: I mean, can you get excited about a team that 1984 01:53:44,120 --> 01:53:46,439 Speaker 1: when the quarterback doesn't throw a touchdown pass against the 1985 01:53:46,479 --> 01:53:49,360 Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcon, we're giving up twenty eight points a game. 1986 01:53:50,000 --> 01:53:51,720 Speaker 1: Can you get excited about that? If that's what you 1987 01:53:51,760 --> 01:53:55,800 Speaker 1: want from your quarterback, then we'll give him kudos. The 1988 01:53:57,160 --> 01:54:02,680 Speaker 1: Washington over the Bengals nine borrow toward multiple ligaments in 1989 01:54:02,800 --> 01:54:06,479 Speaker 1: his left knee. Yeah, and that was bad. You hate 1990 01:54:06,520 --> 01:54:09,519 Speaker 1: to see it. You hate to see a guy having 1991 01:54:09,840 --> 01:54:12,360 Speaker 1: that kind of rookie year ago down. But you know, 1992 01:54:12,520 --> 01:54:14,960 Speaker 1: I hear today people talking about, oh, he might not 1993 01:54:15,000 --> 01:54:18,679 Speaker 1: be ready, he might not be ready. We've seen guys 1994 01:54:18,920 --> 01:54:21,200 Speaker 1: Rob Gronkowski tour his a c L and his m 1995 01:54:21,240 --> 01:54:24,040 Speaker 1: c L in December and played on opening Day. The 1996 01:54:24,120 --> 01:54:26,200 Speaker 1: problem is he's gonna miss all the off season work 1997 01:54:26,280 --> 01:54:30,040 Speaker 1: that he didn't get this year either, that's the problem. Yeah, 1998 01:54:30,080 --> 01:54:34,120 Speaker 1: it's too bad. Unfortunately, uh As everyone knows injuries part 1999 01:54:34,160 --> 01:54:35,440 Speaker 1: of the game, and but you just hate to see 2000 01:54:35,440 --> 01:54:38,600 Speaker 1: it in such a good young player. Yeah, Broncos over 2001 01:54:38,640 --> 01:54:43,520 Speaker 1: the Dolphins, everybody hates to all of a sudden, why 2002 01:54:43,560 --> 01:54:47,360 Speaker 1: did they take him out? If you went to him, 2003 01:54:47,600 --> 01:54:50,720 Speaker 1: isn't the whole part of playing him is allowing him 2004 01:54:50,720 --> 01:54:53,480 Speaker 1: to have those type of situations where he's downten in 2005 01:54:53,520 --> 01:54:55,840 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter to see if he can get out 2006 01:54:55,840 --> 01:54:58,800 Speaker 1: from underneath the crap. Because because Pete, they think they're 2007 01:54:58,840 --> 01:55:01,000 Speaker 1: in a playoff team and they thought, Okay, Patrick could 2008 01:55:01,000 --> 01:55:03,400 Speaker 1: bring him back. I get it, I understand that, but 2009 01:55:03,520 --> 01:55:05,560 Speaker 1: is this year are they even if they get the playoffs, 2010 01:55:05,600 --> 01:55:09,240 Speaker 1: they're gonna make a run in the playoffs, Tonty. So 2011 01:55:09,320 --> 01:55:13,880 Speaker 1: it's about building him. It's not about this year. How bad? 2012 01:55:13,960 --> 01:55:17,720 Speaker 1: How how bad did he look? Well? The offensive line 2013 01:55:17,720 --> 01:55:22,200 Speaker 1: gun just destroyed. He was getting crushed. They were He 2014 01:55:22,240 --> 01:55:24,640 Speaker 1: didn't look great, but the line was bad. And they 2015 01:55:24,680 --> 01:55:27,320 Speaker 1: had played pretty well as a group that that line. 2016 01:55:27,440 --> 01:55:32,520 Speaker 1: They're young chargers over the Jets. Herbert has three or 2017 01:55:32,520 --> 01:55:35,480 Speaker 1: more passing touchdowns and five games. That's a rookie record. 2018 01:55:36,720 --> 01:55:40,400 Speaker 1: He's good. Out of that comes out of his out 2019 01:55:40,400 --> 01:55:43,240 Speaker 1: of his hand. Uh. And he he threw a touchdown 2020 01:55:43,240 --> 01:55:45,320 Speaker 1: pass in the fourth quarter on Sunday. They went, oh 2021 01:55:45,360 --> 01:55:49,880 Speaker 1: my gosh, it just was a rifle shot between about 2022 01:55:49,920 --> 01:55:53,640 Speaker 1: three guys. He's good. He's really good. Apparently the Cowboys 2023 01:55:53,680 --> 01:55:57,080 Speaker 1: were fired up by the head coaches meeting when he 2024 01:55:57,440 --> 01:56:00,560 Speaker 1: used a sledgehammer like Gallagher and Small a bunch of 2025 01:56:00,560 --> 01:56:03,200 Speaker 1: watermelons in front of the team for the Cowboys and 2026 01:56:03,200 --> 01:56:12,760 Speaker 1: they beat the Vikings. Why did this high school remember 2027 01:56:12,800 --> 01:56:15,720 Speaker 1: the acts in the locker room? Yeah, that worked well. 2028 01:56:15,760 --> 01:56:21,120 Speaker 1: I can't stand motivational crap. If you're not ready to play, 2029 01:56:21,200 --> 01:56:27,600 Speaker 1: what's wrong with you? What's the sledgehammer in the watermelons? 2030 01:56:27,920 --> 01:56:31,400 Speaker 1: What was the acts? What was the acts? Chopping wood chopping, 2031 01:56:32,520 --> 01:56:38,240 Speaker 1: chop chop chop. This punter's camp off. It's hilarious. No 2032 01:56:38,320 --> 01:56:44,600 Speaker 1: one's not the Chiefs over the Raiders five game. This 2033 01:56:44,880 --> 01:56:47,680 Speaker 1: was that was a good football game. Last time. That 2034 01:56:47,760 --> 01:56:50,320 Speaker 1: was a good football game. The Chiefs had defensive issues though, 2035 01:56:50,920 --> 01:56:53,560 Speaker 1: and look, give Derik car credit played well, but they 2036 01:56:53,600 --> 01:56:56,000 Speaker 1: have issues on defense. And then we know the Raiders do. 2037 01:56:56,400 --> 01:56:58,240 Speaker 1: Was there any doubt ma Homes is getting the ball 2038 01:56:58,440 --> 01:57:01,960 Speaker 1: going right down the field scoring and and can people 2039 01:57:02,080 --> 01:57:05,160 Speaker 1: quit raving about Jonathan Abram because he makes a big 2040 01:57:05,240 --> 01:57:08,280 Speaker 1: hit or two the guy gets that was his coverage? 2041 01:57:08,280 --> 01:57:10,520 Speaker 1: What was he doing? He comes running up if the 2042 01:57:10,600 --> 01:57:17,200 Speaker 1: home scrambles for seven yard eight yards. Those are the 2043 01:57:17,200 --> 01:57:20,520 Speaker 1: games from yesterday in week eleven, time for Monday Night 2044 01:57:20,520 --> 01:57:23,600 Speaker 1: Football and a great battle on tampat Raymond James Stadium 2045 01:57:23,600 --> 01:57:26,600 Speaker 1: in Tampa Aaron Donald Jalen Ramsey in the defense of 2046 01:57:26,640 --> 01:57:29,600 Speaker 1: the six and three Los Angeles Rams meet the Goat, 2047 01:57:29,640 --> 01:57:32,640 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, Groun and Leonard for that and the seven 2048 01:57:32,640 --> 01:57:35,920 Speaker 1: and three Tampa Bay Buccaneers fire. The Cannons told meets 2049 01:57:35,960 --> 01:57:38,200 Speaker 1: Leather at eight fifteen, who you got tonight? In Tampa. 2050 01:57:40,320 --> 01:57:42,760 Speaker 1: I think Tampa will win a close game. I think 2051 01:57:42,760 --> 01:57:45,800 Speaker 1: this is gonna I want Tony because he's doing the 2052 01:57:45,840 --> 01:57:49,400 Speaker 1: game first series. If Tom Brady goes three and out, 2053 01:57:49,720 --> 01:57:51,800 Speaker 1: keep an eye on his body language, because you remember 2054 01:57:51,800 --> 01:57:53,440 Speaker 1: when he played at night time a couple of weeks 2055 01:57:53,440 --> 01:57:55,760 Speaker 1: ago against the Saints. He went three and out and 2056 01:57:55,800 --> 01:57:58,760 Speaker 1: he started as Tom moping, and it carried over and 2057 01:57:58,800 --> 01:58:01,080 Speaker 1: he moped the entire game. He was terrible. And this 2058 01:58:01,320 --> 01:58:03,520 Speaker 1: you mentioned it, Tony. This Rams team could get after 2059 01:58:03,560 --> 01:58:06,800 Speaker 1: the quarterback. Well, the bigger issues this is the last 2060 01:58:06,800 --> 01:58:09,920 Speaker 1: three games. Tom Brady is one out of thirteen of 2061 01:58:10,000 --> 01:58:13,880 Speaker 1: passes that have traveled twenty or more yards. He has 2062 01:58:13,920 --> 01:58:16,640 Speaker 1: been wildly inaccurate down the field and if you watch 2063 01:58:16,720 --> 01:58:19,520 Speaker 1: the tape, they're really inconsistent. Pete, it's like feast for 2064 01:58:19,600 --> 01:58:21,600 Speaker 1: famine is an offense. And I worry about a good 2065 01:58:21,720 --> 01:58:24,160 Speaker 1: Rams defense that can cover you on the back half 2066 01:58:24,240 --> 01:58:26,320 Speaker 1: and rush the passer. I think that, But I think 2067 01:58:26,320 --> 01:58:28,120 Speaker 1: the Buccaneers win a close game. But I don't think 2068 01:58:28,120 --> 01:58:30,240 Speaker 1: there's a lot of points tonight. I don't either. And 2069 01:58:30,440 --> 01:58:32,480 Speaker 1: by the way, that other corner Williams, is playing really 2070 01:58:32,520 --> 01:58:36,320 Speaker 1: well for the Rams. Yeah, Darius Williams. Yeah, they're They're 2071 01:58:36,360 --> 01:58:39,080 Speaker 1: good on defense, and their defensive coordinator has done a 2072 01:58:39,080 --> 01:58:41,480 Speaker 1: good job. Again, though, I want to you know, I 2073 01:58:41,520 --> 01:58:43,680 Speaker 1: think part of the reason Brady has been inaccurate. I 2074 01:58:43,680 --> 01:58:47,040 Speaker 1: think the eyes are coming down a little bit now 2075 01:58:47,080 --> 01:58:49,000 Speaker 1: because if you look at I watched the tape, the ones, 2076 01:58:49,080 --> 01:58:51,560 Speaker 1: he's not looking at the rush of the ones. I mean, 2077 01:58:51,560 --> 01:58:54,080 Speaker 1: these are guys wide open. He missed two wide open 2078 01:58:54,120 --> 01:58:58,120 Speaker 1: post patterns. One Devons won to Antonio Brown. Antonio Brown 2079 01:58:58,640 --> 01:59:01,400 Speaker 1: in the game last weekend. Mean guys wide open and 2080 01:59:01,480 --> 01:59:04,360 Speaker 1: he just sailed them. Okay, So the headline from today 2081 01:59:04,400 --> 01:59:09,720 Speaker 1: is basely Brady washed up. Yet I'm doing that. I'm 2082 01:59:09,720 --> 01:59:12,760 Speaker 1: not that guy. It'll be the clip after the game tonight, 2083 01:59:12,800 --> 01:59:16,400 Speaker 1: all over social media. Have a great call tonight, Tony, 2084 01:59:16,600 --> 01:59:19,960 Speaker 1: enjoy itally on Westwood One. Is that where you're on? 2085 01:59:21,680 --> 01:59:24,320 Speaker 1: All right, Tony MISSELLI out of here, Pete Briscoe, out 2086 01:59:24,320 --> 01:59:26,839 Speaker 1: of here. For our entire crew, I'm J. P. Shadrick. 2087 01:59:26,880 --> 01:59:29,840 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening and thank you for watching on 2088 01:59:29,880 --> 01:59:33,280 Speaker 1: social media today. 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