WEBVTT - Jakob Marsee's Mega Slump; Marlins Off to 'Rocky' Start in July 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:02.599 Hey, this is Kyle Stowers and you're listening to Fish 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:39.440 on First. Rocky start to July goes without saying, and 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:41.600 we're gonna break it down here on fish on First 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:45.159 Live here on the Fish on First podcast, part of 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:49.000 the Foul Territory Network, presented by Jetski Rentals of South Florida. 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:51.920 I am Eli Susman, the founder of Fish on First, 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:55.400 a solo show for Lisi's first few moments, but I 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:58.639 expect others of my FLF staff to hop on as 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:02.040 we're reacting to a series split between the Marlins and 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:04.960 the Colorado Rockies. A whole lot to get into here, 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:07.760 as well as some big picture details about where the 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:11.080 Marlins stands at this particular moment in time, one that 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:13.360 feels quite a bit different from how it is did 0:01:13.640 --> 0:01:15.880 less than forty eight hours ago, when they had a 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:18.600 record setting month of June in a variety of ways, 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:22.080 very convenient. How that all lined up, and we give 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:26.319 the team its flowers for that didn't necessarily I think 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:30.240 there may have been some overreactions overall to where the 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:32.840 team stood just in the middle of this series, having 0:01:32.840 --> 0:01:35.160 won the first two games of it and then dropping 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:39.640 the final two as advertised the highest scoring series for 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:41.720 the Marlins this season by a wide margin in terms 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:44.160 of the total run scored both for them and for 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:47.720 the Rockies combines run differential almost split right down the middle, 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:50.600 a couple of blowout wins going in either direction, and 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:53.480 then a couple more competitive games in between. Is the 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:56.160 Marlins are in the middle of a three city road 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:58.840 trip this thing, the second leg of it. I wanted 0:01:58.840 --> 0:02:01.000 to talk quite a bit about Jacob Marcy and center 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:03.600 field on this show. Wanted to talk about the starting rotation, 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:06.120 which has been an ongoing topic for so much of 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:08.680 this season, and how we're kind of at this point 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:11.639 where I think there's a fairly obvious change for the 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:15.080 Marlins to make moving forward. And yeah, beyond all that, 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:17.480 we'll get to all of your questions in the live chat. 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:20.160 For those of you watching on YouTube and Twitter, please 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:23.080 weigh in. I could use your company and glad to 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:26.079 use your ideas as bouncing starting off points to get 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:28.600 into whatever is on your mind. As we're getting very 0:02:28.600 --> 0:02:30.320 close to the All Star break for this Marvelins team 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:32.560 first half of the season that has largely gone very 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:35.200 well in this series overall, there's really no shame in 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:38.720 splitting a road four game series regardless of the opponent, 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:41.280 the Rockies, as we covered, as I think a lot 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:43.400 of people just know off the top of their head, 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:45.280 this is one of the worst teams in Major League Baseball. 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:46.799 They were one of the worst teams ever in twenty 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:48.919 twenty five, but they were somewhat improved this year. And 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:50.600 even though the Marlins swept them in Miami at the 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:53.800 start of the season, as expected, it was a little 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:58.440 bit more competitive this time around. Overall, I mean offensively, 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:01.400 you gotta highlights of the guys that were stepped up 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:03.880 for the Marlins in this series. Otto Lopez continuing to 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:06.480 be awesome and Javier Sonoa. He won our series MVP 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:10.040 honors and even pitched the final ending of this series. 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:14.480 But offensively, Sonoha kind of redefining his entire season basically 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:17.120 from as statistical perspective in the course of four games. 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:19.440 That is why we never want to lean too much 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:22.680 on what happens in Colorado over the course of these series. 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:25.160 And this is you gotta take it while you have it, 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:26.880 because this is the only trip of the Marlins make 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:29.160 into Corse Field. It is going to skew some of 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:34.160 the stats in a really heavy positive light for some 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:35.960 of the hitters. But things will come back down to 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:37.920 earth over the course of the remaining three months of 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:40.520 the season once they don't go back in here. I 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:42.600 know that Brian, one of our regulars, is checking in. 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:46.560 It certainly a roller coaster series to have won the 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:48.440 first two games ten to seven, and in the opener 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:51.880 on Monday, Sandy not even particularly sharpened that one. In 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:54.960 his history at Course Fields has been pretty poor overall, 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:57.480 but the Marlins able to weather that and win it. 0:03:57.720 --> 0:04:00.320 Then the blowout win in that second game was fourteenth three. 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:04.280 Basically everything was going great, and as Thomas Shows has 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:08.680 described it to this serious finale was especially cringeworthy from 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:12.480 a variety of aspects of a Marlins team, where when 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:14.800 you're playing in Corse Field, there's a premium put on 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:18.680 having balls in play, and so from that standpoint, things 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:20.719 look like maybe're going pretty well for the Marlins in 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:22.599 this one, a game where they actually got a lead 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:24.960 right off the bat and had to lead into the 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:27.880 middle dings. A Marlins team that is capable of coming 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:29.960 back lanes of games, but usually it's not one that 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:33.320 blow was a ton of leads this season, however, in 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:34.960 this one. Part of the issue was not being able 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:37.920 to capitalize with these run scoring opportunities. The fact that 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:39.839 they only struck out three times in the course of 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:42.000 a whole game at Course Field, he had only scored 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:45.000 four runs. That's an anomaly. You just don't see that 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:47.760 very often because how often balls put in play get 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:52.360 rewarded in the spacious dimensions of Course Field. But they 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:55.120 went completely hitless with runners in scoring position. So that 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:56.800 is kind of what you point to each of the 0:04:56.880 --> 0:05:00.200 last two games, not driving in Kate taking advantage to one, 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:03.440 they'd runners on base on a game where Michael Lorenzen 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:06.360 was frankly pretty horrible. He walked six batters on his own. 0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:08.560 This is one of the higher games for the Marlins 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:11.159 all season in terms of drawing based on bases on balls, 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:14.440 and yet to lose that game is Yeah, I think 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:16.560 that speaks of how much the bullpen struggled. This is 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:18.640 one of the very worst games that the Marlins bullpen 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:21.760 has had all year. I mean, from a runs allowed perspective, 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:23.760 it certainly was. The Marlins hadn't allowed I don't know 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:26.000 if people realize this, They hadn't allowed more than ten 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:28.880 runs in a single game all season long until today 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:33.320 when they allowed fourteen. So that shows quite out of 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:35.320 step with what they've done this season. And something was 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:37.560 bad luck. I mean, if you watch this game, a 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:39.720 lot half of the runs came across in that bottom 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:42.160 of the sixth inning, and the Rockies scored all those 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:45.400 runs without a single extra base hit in that ending, 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:48.440 which is a very hard trick to do. I think 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:50.359 it's only been happens maybe a handful of times in 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:53.719 Marlin's history, to have a whole half ending where you're 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:56.560 only allowing singles and walks and whatever, and yet that 0:05:56.640 --> 0:05:59.120 it culminates in such a crooked number that made a 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:02.080 difference in his game. Everybody got involved on the Rocky 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:04.599 side over the course of this series was really Mickey 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:08.159 Moniac and Hunter Goodman that did the most damage. Goodman 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:10.279 is now on pace for like a fifty home run season. 0:06:10.360 --> 0:06:13.320 In Moniac, he hit home runs in three consecutive games 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:15.120 during the course of the series. He flirted with a 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:18.760 cycle on multiple occasions. And still I'll go back to 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:21.520 the fact that I won't call it embarrassing when it's 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:24.640 just a single series, when's on the road against them, 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:27.760 a team that plays a lot better at coursefield than 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:29.840 they do when they're on the road in the Rockies. 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:31.560 So this is a team you're in and you're out. 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:33.359 The stats kind of bear that out where this is 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:36.760 where offensively they just are more explosive overall, and they 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:42.000 showed that in this finale in particular. Now, the fact 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:45.200 that Marlin's put up these good offensive numbers overall and 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:48.840 they did it without anything whatsoever from Jacob Marcy, That's 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:50.520 kind of where I definitely wanted to dive in on 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:52.240 this one. We touched on him on the new episode 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:53.960 of Fish on Filtered. You could get that wherever you're 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:57.239 listening to this show, you can find Unfiltered with aj Ramos, 0:06:57.279 --> 0:07:00.440 Kevin Barrall Asakuzud, they had a little segment on Marcie. 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:02.200 I think I'll go a little bit deeper on him 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:05.560 because we're kind of are very close, I would think 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:08.400 to a breaking point with him for a guy that 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:11.200 early in this year, I think both myself and several 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:14.440 others on the FLF staff, like we were we were 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:17.360 preaching patients with Marcy, a guy that has such a 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:22.240 well rounded profile who we felt was being unlucky early 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:24.000 in the year, Like there were indicators that he was 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:27.480 doing some of the same things positively at the beginning 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:29.760 of twenty twenty six that he was doing at the 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:31.920 end of twenty twenty five and just wasn't getting the results. 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:34.720 In fact, he'd made some encouraging changes that made you 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:36.240 think the ceiling was actually going to be a little 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:40.960 bit higher for him moving forward. And yet he's had 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:43.679 some bright moments. I remember there was a series against 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:46.280 the Diamondbacks where he was about as valuable as anybody 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:48.440 over the course of that series. I feel like his 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:52.320 center field defense has been especially good in most May 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:56.120 and June overall, and I think we've seen some highlight 0:07:56.120 --> 0:07:58.840 worthy plays, especially in recent weeks, where it's not really 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:01.840 affecting him on that side of the but yet he's 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:04.920 just not hitting. And this slump that he's had recently 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:09.440 has been just a new degree of concerning compared to 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:11.640 what he's done to this point. He's been statistically, he's 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:14.360 been bad all year long offensively, but what he's done 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:16.320 recently I don't think should be swept under the rug 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:20.360 and shoudn't be grouped in this overall view of him 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:22.760 as a guy that is due for some positive aggression 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:25.760 like he's just been awful lately, and I think that 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:29.080 matches the eye test. Had some opportunities today, in particular 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:32.240 with stranded at least four runners on base when I 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:35.160 checked in the middle of the game, and that's been 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:37.960 that's been the frustration I think from Marlins fans that 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:40.480 even in recent weeks, when the team has been playing 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:43.240 as well, in fact better than any other team in baseball, 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:47.240 there's been this frustration with Marci just because he's kind 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:49.559 of held them back from it seems like winning these 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:52.000 even more games. It felt like they had potential to 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:54.920 be even more dominant in June if Marcy was anything 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:58.200 close to a league average hitter. Yeah, the strikeouts have 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:00.880 been a little bit high, but that's I think that's 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:02.680 why it's been kind of hard to put your finger 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:05.800 on what's wrong, because the overall he's putting balls in play, 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:10.440 it's just a lot of weak pop ups overall this season. 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:12.680 I can bring up some of his Baseball Savant numbers 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:15.880 that kind of illustrate what's going on with Marcy right here. 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:19.640 That his one thing he's really done that seems to 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:21.960 be positive this year was trim his ground ball rate. 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:23.959 He's been putting more balls in the air. He's been 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:25.800 pulling balls more often as well. This has been a 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:28.199 trend all year long where it felt like that was 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:30.000 going to give him an opportunity for hit for a 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:32.679 lot more power than he even did last season. Like, 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:35.240 if he's sending everything to right field, he doesn't need 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:37.040 a blast of ball four hundred feet so to get 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:41.040 it over the wall. And that theoretically felt like as 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:43.360 long as he's making the same good swing decisions as 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:46.960 last year, as long as he's healthy, then he's going 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:50.200 to get similar, if not better results. And yet it's 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:53.199 everything else that it just isn't really going for him. 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:55.720 You see all the really dark blue. He's just not 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:58.160 hitting the ball hard at all compared to last year 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:02.320 twentieth percent high entering today in hard hit rate. Yeah, 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:04.120 the average exit VLO has been low, and he just 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:06.200 hasn't been barreling very many balls at all. He's in 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:09.520 the twelfth percentile in barrel rate. Like even when he 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:13.480 gets off some of his a swings aren't even going 0:10:14.000 --> 0:10:16.679 to the warning track this year. So that's kind of 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:19.360 the concern for a guy that, as far as we 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:21.960 can tell, physically, he's fully healthy. He's been playing almost 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:24.520 every single game, and that's been a little bit frustrating 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:27.599 right where he's been struggling for this extended period, and 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:29.559 yet they're still running him out there as if nothing 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:33.480 is wrong. To this point in the season. It's been 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:36.839 sitting against most lefties, but even not all of them. 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:38.640 The Martins have given him such a long leash to 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:41.600 the point where he's a fully qualified hitter. And I 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:44.120 mean the big traditional number that jumps out is he's 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:46.280 the worst qualified hitter in all of baseball, just in 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:48.480 terms of batting average, if you want to keep it traditional. 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:51.320 But it's also, as you know, I touched on with 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:53.640 some of those other stats, is that he's not hitting 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:56.839 for power, so he's not slugging. He's slugging under three 0:10:56.960 --> 0:11:00.440 hundred this deep into the season, a guy that was 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:03.560 two hundred points higher than that during his partial season 0:11:03.640 --> 0:11:07.679 debut in twenty twenty five. That's yeah, that's kind of 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:11.440 the big concern there is that even though he's still 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:13.679 drawing his walks, he's still getting on base, and he's 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:16.400 still stealing bases, not stealing them very efficiently, but still 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:20.800 running aggressively. Like there are some silver linings or reasons 0:11:20.800 --> 0:11:23.440 to think that he can still offer something at the 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:26.160 major league level, but the fact that he's playing almost 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:29.760 every single day, he's now really rapidly emerged as one 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:32.280 of the weakest links on this entire roster, not only 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:34.839 even slumming. For most of the year, A lot of 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:36.920 the iyer has been focused on guys that have already 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:39.920 been either cut or sent down, and now to this point, 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:42.160 as they're looking for other ways to optimize the roster, 0:11:43.440 --> 0:11:45.360 they need to seriously take a long look at what 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:47.760 to do with Marcie because that's the thing. He's not 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:50.240 turning the corner whatsoever. He has about two hits in 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:53.760 his last forty at bats to this point, and the 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:57.840 slug is what's missing as well. Where Like there is 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:00.000 anyway you slice it, he's one of the weakest positions 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:04.920 players at his position, and I would say the issue 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:07.120 here is that this is not something you could really 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:10.120 address in a trade. Like we've been talking on streams 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:11.760 and we will continue to talk about what to do 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:14.800 in terms of going outside the organization and looking for help. 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:17.600 You're not going to trade for a starting center fielder 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:21.200 in the middle of the season just because one those 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:23.439 guys don't really get traded very often. If a guy 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:27.880 is producing very well, especially offensively at the center field position, 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:30.720 then is one of the more valuable players in all baseball. 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:32.439 You just don't see those guys get traded during the 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:33.840 middle of the season, even if they're on a non 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:36.640 contenting team. So that's one and then the other side of 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:39.160 it is that this is a front office that to 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:42.240 this point has shown no inclination to give up some 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:44.319 of their top prospects to get a deal done. Even 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:47.480 if a guy is available. It's very hard to believe 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:49.080 that the Marlins would be at the top of the 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:50.880 list in terms of what they'd be willing to give up, 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:54.560 especially considering that how Marshie has so many years of 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:56.400 control still to go. This is a guy that is 0:12:56.960 --> 0:12:59.080 still just what twenty four years old, about to turn 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:03.000 twenty five, where even if this is a you could 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:05.360 almost write it off as a lost year to this point, 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:07.400 doesn't mean that it's the end of the line for him. 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:09.440 Like there's still a lot of hope for him. Something 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:12.959 to click. It is entirely reasonable for somebody to have 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:16.480 a sophomore slump for back of a letter phrase, better phrase, 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:18.840 and then bounce back and almost pick up right where 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:22.240 he left off as a rookie. It's just that there is, 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:26.880 you know, increasing urgency to make adjustments from a roster 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:29.640 and usage standpoint so that they win these games. We've 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:31.280 seen them slide him out of the leadoff spot. I 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:33.360 don't think he's going to be hitting lead off anytime 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:36.280 for this foreseeable future. He hit seventh for several games 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:38.319 in this series and that's been his most common spot 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:41.319 as of late. So I mean that's one baby adjustment. 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:45.600 The other considerations is that history Ruiz, who's been a 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:48.400 very nice surprise offensively this year for the Marlins in 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:51.800 all aspects, like defensively, his history in centerfield is pretty poor, 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:55.040 that there is a somewhat significant drop down in terms 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:58.520 of defense when you play him too often. Javier Sonoha 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:00.640 we covered him just a moment go because of how 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:03.240 much he's turned it on offensively. He can play anywhere 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:06.040 he could play, including center field if needed. It's just 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:07.840 at the same time when he's playing center field, then 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:09.760 that creates a void at third base, and third base 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:12.160 is the void that we were focusing on just over 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:16.560 these last few weeks until Sonoha at this point is 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:19.040 now kind of their primary option there for the short term, 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:21.000 and that's kind of a position where we expect them 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:23.360 they could go outside the organization and address the third baseman. 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:25.760 So that is something that could come together maybe a 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:28.280 month from now when the deadline actually arrives. But now 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:30.240 the question is how do they navigate that next month 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:34.160 at the very least when it comes to this. So 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:36.520 just some final thoughts on what else they can do. 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:39.320 I know that Thomas Joseph here Mensing, Andrew Pintar, who's 0:14:39.360 --> 0:14:41.240 having like a solid year, a little bit better than 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:44.120 he was last year. He's just as good defensively in 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:47.000 center field in my opinion as Marci. He is a 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:50.920 pretty comparable base runner as well. It's just that offensively 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:55.040 there are more obvious holes in him even compared to Marci, 0:14:55.200 --> 0:14:57.160 Like there is a scenario where Pintar hits even worse 0:14:57.200 --> 0:15:00.320 than Marcy does from both a power standpoint and an 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:03.440 on base standpoint, especially at least Marcy is getting on base. 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:06.080 Some of the other options that are on the forty 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:10.120 men roster, They've Reese Hines, they have resigns that just 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:12.080 acquired in a trade a month ago from Cincinnati, but 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:14.240 he hasn't really been hitting like he's been hitting almost 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:16.560 as poorly at Triple A as Marcy has been hitting 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:18.640 in the Major Since that trade went down, He's had 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:21.200 a very well for the most part, successful minor league career. 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:25.160 But similar to Pintar, he's a guy that his skill 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:27.240 set lends himself to a lot of strikeouts and not 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:28.640 a whole lot of on base if who were to 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:32.520 be called up, So that's a concern. They've Matthew Etzel 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:35.240 as well, who they acquired at last trade deadline. I 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:37.160 think it's kind of a stretch to play him defensively 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:39.560 in center field. He did have a bit of a 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:42.280 power serge earlier this season that was kind of interesting. 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:47.680 He's kind of a much lower ceiling player than even Hines, 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:50.640 for example, and certainly the Marcy. But he's just on 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:52.920 the forty men roster for now, so I don't think 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:55.960 anything is totally imminent with Marcy. The All Star break 0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:58.880 would kind of be a natural breaking point for whatever reason, 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:01.640 he continues to slump this severely. That's why I wanted 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:04.360 to emphasize is that it's not just a continuation of 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:07.560 bad season long performance. It's that things are getting worse 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:09.800 and not better, Like there's just no sign of him 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:12.080 flipping a switch. It's a lot of pop ups, it's 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:15.200 a lot of strikeouts looking and there's not nearly enough 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:17.880 from the other aspects of his game to make it 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:20.480 to justify it. So, yeah, they're kind of in a 0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:24.040 tough spot just because there isn't another center fielder knocking 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:25.960 on the door at Triple A. It's more so about 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:27.560 do you trust any of the guys currently in the 0:16:27.600 --> 0:16:30.520 roster to take over and then kind of rearrange the 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:34.560 seats around that, considering like if you move things around 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:37.200 as any way to get Kemp Alderman in the mix 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:39.760 up from Triple A and find at bats for him 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:43.680 at either first base DH or the cornal field spots 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:45.960 more along those lines. Yeah, there's not an obvious solution 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:47.880 right now, but I did want to go a little 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:49.400 bit more deep because I know a lot of people 0:16:49.440 --> 0:16:52.880 are thinking about it, even seeing some one trade candidate 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:55.880 that OSMANI brings up in the chat, Jaron Duran from 0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:58.240 the Red Sox. That'll be something to take a closer 0:16:58.320 --> 0:17:00.560 look at as we get closer. But a guy that 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:03.680 the Red Soxs would be selling pretty low to move 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:06.000 him right now, and I just have a hard time 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:08.840 seeing them do that, considering how high his value was 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:12.159 just a year or two ago. But I kind of 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:16.000 agree with beefcat in here that just mentally, Marcy doesn't 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:17.760 seem to be in a good spot. Mechanically, I don't 0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:20.119 think he's in a good spot either, just based on 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:24.240 kind of the batted ball results. Kind of speak volumes 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:27.160 about the fact that he's especially against fastballs. I don't 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:28.879 want to go too deep in the weeds on this stuff, 0:17:28.880 --> 0:17:31.040 but that's kind of the biggest difference from last year 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:33.480 to this year is that he's not punishing fastballs when 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:35.600 he gets it, and he's taking a lot of fastballs 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:38.760 for called strikes in a way that shows that both 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:42.080 his I think, his approach, as well as mechanically, this 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:44.280 is stuff that could be fixed in relatively short order 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:46.120 when he gets sent down to the miners, because we've 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:49.080 seen the Marlins do it with other guys this season, 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:51.280 last season. Over the course of these last two seasons, 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:54.320 there's a pretty significant number of guys that we've seen 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:58.919 that have been able to turn it around very quickly 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:02.240 once they get out of the very intense spotlight of 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:06.359 the major leagues. So we're trending in this direction, I 0:18:06.359 --> 0:18:08.399 would think if he doesn't pull out of this slump 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:11.480 relatively soon. But yeah, a whole lot more to cover. 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:13.560 I want to talk a little bit about starting pitching, 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:15.000 and then we're going to look ahead, of course, to 0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:17.960 the rest of this road tip. First, let's hear from 0:18:18.119 --> 0:18:18.919 our sponsors. 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:24.919 At Quint's people dehydration sucks, Quints, electrolyte stick packs to 0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:28.919 the rescue. 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