1 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: Walcome Bird Gang on today's show a little Rookie review. 2 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: The three day Rookie Minicamp is over. So who impressed? 3 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: What did we see? What did we hear? You know, 4 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: Mike Jarecki always has his ear to the ground. Plus 5 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury on the DeAndre Hopkins suspension and just release schedule. 6 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: But first help on the defensive line. It's Cardinals Cover two, 7 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: episode five sixty six, and it starts now. Welcome to 8 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two with Craig Grigolu and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals 9 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: Cover two is presented by Hyunday, proud partner of the 10 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts, visit asy Cardinals 11 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: dot com, Slash podcasts, Going for Hopkins one Hand and 12 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: catch in a Touchdown DeAndre Hopkins. Here's Craig Griolou and 13 00:00:55,960 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: Mike Jarecki. So we've been talking about this, saying you 14 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: more so than me, MJ. A need for some veteran 15 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: help on the defensive line. And wouldn't you know it, 16 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: someone is listening to you, MJ. Maybe several people are 17 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: listening because we have a roster move along that defensive 18 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: line and specifically defensive tackle Kingsley Kiki signed away one 19 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 1: year contract sixty three two eighty eight love his age 20 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: twenty five form or fifth round draft pick, spent the 21 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: past three seasons with the Packers. So he comes in 22 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 1: and gets added to the defensive line room. You've got 23 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 1: ten players in that room, less than five really are 24 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: interior defensive lineman. But we'll see, we'll see what happens 25 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: with Kiki. Yeah, and I just thought, you know, I know, 26 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: we look at outside pass rusher, and you know, I 27 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,639 Speaker 1: think the guys they have on the roster, you know, again, 28 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: I think we need to wait until after the OTA's 29 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: in the mandatory mini camp to where they can kind 30 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: of reset things. But you know, overall, it's to me, 31 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: I think they believe in their outside linebacker because somebody 32 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: is not going to make the roster. Considering you invested 33 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: three maybe one sides of a practice squad, so I 34 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: did it was important to bring in and again two 35 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: hundred eighty eight pounds, not your three hundred pound guy, 36 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: but you still have Shired Lawrence and Lucky Foe two. 37 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: And then they brought in some undrafted free agents. Yeah, 38 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: Manny Jones is the one that is listed as a 39 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: defensive tackle. I do want to touch on him in 40 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: a moment. But Kiki six and a half sacks in 41 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,839 Speaker 1: forty one games. When you talk about that interior push 42 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 1: up the middle, it's not a lot of sacks unless 43 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: you're Aaron Donald or Jordan Phillips has that one breakout 44 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: season in which the Cardinals pounced on and it didn't 45 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: work out here in Arizona. But you always talk about 46 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: flood the position. You don't know. You hope that this 47 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: is the year that both Lawrence and Foe to take 48 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: an additional step forward. I think it's a big season 49 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: for them. They did get better a year ago. It's 50 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 1: always been availability though with them versus their ability to 51 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: handle football. But Lawrence Foe to Key Key, maybe this 52 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: Manny Jones. So that's four. And the ability of a J. J. 53 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: Watt to slide inside or just be very versa two 54 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: along with Cameron Thomas. Put your hand into the dirt, 55 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: whether as a defensive end or go into the middle. 56 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: Slide in the middle as he did because San Diego 57 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: State needed some help, and he said, you know what, 58 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: I'll raise my hand and do what's best for the team. 59 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: Considering that you know, obviously those guys are judged on 60 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 1: you know, sacks in college, but he did get a 61 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: lot of pressures in knockdowns. And the other guy is 62 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: Zach Allen. Move him around a little bit more possibly, 63 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: even though he's a guy that can line up on 64 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: the edge. And I do think Richard Lawrence is your 65 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: true nose tackle. And then you sprinkle it into me, 66 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: you know, don't focus on Dogby a little bit. I 67 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: like his size. You know, again, when you talk about 68 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: taking that next step, you know, based on more snaps, 69 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: more production, that's what you're looking for from Richard Lawrence, 70 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: Lucky Foe to Zach Allen and Michael Dogby Foe two 71 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: three thirty five Laurens three oh eight. So those are 72 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: the big bodies. Last season, fo two started three games 73 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: but played in all seventeen. In fact, played the second 74 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: most defensive snaps among lineman. Zach Allen had the most 75 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 1: defensive snaps. Lawrence seven games started, played in eleven. A 76 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 1: CAF injury limited him to six games, and that was 77 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: the same injury he had in twenty twenty and kept 78 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 1: him out for nine games. Well, I gotta think that 79 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: those snap count went up because of Jordan Phillips' inability 80 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: to stay healthy and then JJ washed missed a ton 81 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,559 Speaker 1: of time, and so those reps went to those guys, 82 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 1: and you know that's where it's going to have to 83 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: be moving forward. But you'd like to see the more 84 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 1: production because they feel good about Richard Lawrence. I remember 85 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: when they drafted an Lsu, a guy that was kind 86 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 1: of the alpha male there. They think he can do 87 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: it more than just be a nose tackle. So again, 88 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 1: availability is just as important as production, but you have 89 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: to be on the field to be productive. Cardinals Covered 90 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: two presented by Hunday Partner of the Arizona Cardinals. All Right, 91 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: we brought up Manny Jones a couple of different times here, 92 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: so let's get into the just completed rookie Minicamp. Watched 93 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 1: more than forty minutes of Friday's work, so it was 94 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: three days Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. The only portion that 95 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: was open to us in the media Friday for about 96 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: forty minutes. So a small and let me repeat this 97 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: per game, a very small sample size for what these 98 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: rookies were able to do and accomplish over three days. 99 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: But you're talking about eight draft picks. Twelve undrafted free agents, 100 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: thirty three tryout guys, including tight end Matt Kempton at 101 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: a NAU and yes, the son of former Sons player 102 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: Tim Kempton. So a little local flavor right there. But 103 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: let's talk about that defensive line. Undrafted free agent Laurent 104 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: Stokes listed as a defensive end. We've been talking about 105 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: him maybe playing some defensive tackle and in many Jones 106 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: six two eighty. And I'll say this because when we 107 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: get to why it's a number of different players, your 108 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: eyes kind of have to focus a number of different directions. 109 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: But you can maybe just focus on a position group 110 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: at a time or a draft pick at a time. 111 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,119 Speaker 1: I'll say this about Manny Jones at six two two eighty. 112 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: He looked big. Now what does that mean? I don't know, 113 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: but at least hey first impressions are important. Yeah, And 114 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: you know the Cardinals, when it comes to the offensive line, 115 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: they just list offensive linemen. Now when it comes to 116 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 1: the defense, the list defensive tackles, defensive ends, the list 117 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 1: inside and outside linebackers, lost corner and safety. And I 118 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: got to think, you know, when we talk about position flexibility, 119 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: you know we look at advance when he goes to 120 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: that NASCAR package. You're really really bringing in four pass 121 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: rushers to get after the quarterback. And you know, when 122 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 1: it comes to Kingsley Key, Key, I'm wondering is the 123 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: guy that can help stop the run because that's where 124 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: the linebackers are going to come in. So I think, 125 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: you know, we sometimes we get pigeonholed on how many 126 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: the guys they have at certain positions. It's just the 127 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 1: offensive line is listed as offensive line, and I think 128 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: they want players to play more than one position, and 129 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: I think that's where Cameron Thomas is going to come in. Now. 130 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: Jones and Trey McBride teammates at Colorado State. Jones did 131 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: play inside the past two seasons, thirteen and a half 132 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: sacks over his career at Colorado State. But you bring 133 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: up something interesting that you know, you're always looking for 134 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: the sacks, the pressures, the hits, the knockdowns get that 135 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: quarterback off his spot. But perhaps, and again we're limited 136 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: in what we see and what we hear because we 137 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: haven't had a chance to talk with new defensive line 138 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: coach Matt Burke. Obviously, no three hundred pounders outside of 139 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: Lawrence and Foe two, but stopping that run. Maybe that 140 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: becomes the focal point of the defensive line, not so 141 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: much the pressure up the middle, but getting that run 142 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: defense more consistent. They ranked twentieth as far as one 143 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen rushing yards per game, but it was 144 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: the rushing yards per carry better than four and a 145 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: half and that ranked twenty six. There were some game 146 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: in which the Cardinals did stop the run. They did 147 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: very good against Derreck Henry in week one, Aaron Jones 148 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: in Week eight, Sony Michelle in week fourteen, but then 149 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: week sixteen and eighteen, Jonathan Taylor one hundred and eight yards, 150 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: Rashad Penny one hundred and ninety yards. It was you 151 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: weren't quite sure what you were going to get with 152 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: that run defense. And maybe there's more a concerted effort 153 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: this offseason as far as interior, when you're talking about 154 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: defensive tackles and you're inside linebackers to make a concerted 155 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 1: effort to handling that run or at least being better 156 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: more consistent at stopping the run. Yeah, you know, listen, 157 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: I'm a big Benson Buckner fan. He obviously had an 158 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: opportunity to go to Jacksonville, But I do think bringing 159 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: a new voice. And I was really impressed because where 160 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: we're standing the new defensive line coach Matt Burke, and 161 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: then his assistant is Rusty Rusty McKinney. He's a defensive 162 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: assistant and they run these drills, and I like the 163 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: drills he was running. Again, everyone's different, Everyone has their 164 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:05,479 Speaker 1: own philosophy. But you know, literally, you know, guys were 165 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: taking three steps Craig, and he only wants you to 166 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,199 Speaker 1: take two steps, so he would literally put his foot 167 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: on the back of your your ankle, so you wouldn't 168 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: because you know, everyone's different, and they probably don't teach 169 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: you that in college. Hey there's a quarterback, go get him. 170 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: You'll learn that at the next level. I never understood 171 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: where Tim Tebow didn't take twenty minutes after every practice 172 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 1: that underneath center. Urber Miro wasn't worried about. That's give 173 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: me the six string tight over center. And so this 174 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: is technique. And then all of a sudden, you see 175 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 1: guys not take that third step and their and their 176 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: explosion in their hands, their hand placement, they want that 177 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: to be the explosion. So again, Buckner, obviously, you know 178 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: you look at Robert Camdici and Jordan Phillips. He couldn't 179 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: get those guys going, But I do like his drills, 180 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: and it's early in the process and I could just see, 181 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: you know, maybe a different voice will focus more on 182 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: stopping the run, because we could fixate on sacks. But 183 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: if a team is in third and you know, third 184 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: and two, third, and all of a sudden, now you're 185 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: doing a good job on first and second down those drills. 186 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: And then there was another one where they basically were 187 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: on their knees and just working on hand placement again, 188 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: pushing up against the tackling sled and trying to get 189 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: that power, just that push with your elbows and straight 190 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: arms real fast. And again a lot of this do 191 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: they do in college. Who knows, but every coach wants 192 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: a little bit something different and that transition. That's why 193 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: the transition as a rookie from college the pros can 194 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: be so difficult for an individual or a position group, 195 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: depending on which system you land in the National Football League, 196 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: because hey, maybe it's identical, same thing. You're being taught 197 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: the same thing, all right, great, I know how to 198 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: do this. Or you get into a place and they're like, well, 199 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: we need you to lean this way, or lean with 200 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: you or lead with your right foot as opposed to 201 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: your left foot, and now all of a sudden, it's like, okay, 202 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: it sounds simple enough, but you've got to reprogram your 203 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: brain and learn that before you can actually go out 204 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: and make it into an action move. Well said, that 205 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: becomes a muscle memory and the more you do it, 206 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: and you know, I'd be curious to see how those 207 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: guys you know, performed on Saturday and Sunday, because yeah, 208 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: I mean, if nobody taught him that, or at least 209 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: players at then it's gonna take some time. I mean, 210 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: but now it's in your head and everything's on films, 211 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: so when they go back into the film such and 212 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: they say, you're still taking three steps maybe every once 213 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: out of five times, let's cut that down. So but 214 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: I did like a lot of different drills they were doing. 215 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: Of course, we've seen these drills in previous offseason workouts. 216 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: I really like the tempo. I think Kingsbury felt like 217 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: he had enough players where he can rotate in and out. 218 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: He made a comment that it was nice to have 219 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: like a full squad out there, even though you know 220 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: you don't have a lot of veterans. So but I 221 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: like the tempo, and you know, I wish we could 222 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: have got a chance to watch more, even though I 223 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 1: thought we're going to be out there for thirty minutes, 224 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: So we got ten minutes of bonus coverage. Kingsbury on 225 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: day one on Friday, Mini camp practice, Rookie Mini camp 226 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: practice quote. We just want to see good competition, everybody, 227 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: stay healthy and see if we can find some diamonds 228 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 1: in the rough with some of those camp guys. So 229 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: we'll see what happens moving forward. But now all of 230 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 1: a sudden, it's going back to your point looking at 231 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: that film. All right, We've got something here, just needs 232 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: a little bit more molding, if you will, in a 233 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: little bit more time. And I'll say this because the 234 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: defensive line just happens to kind of work out literally 235 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: right in front of us where we're positioned on the 236 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: field and where we are allowed to stand during the 237 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: two practice or two fields that they have here at 238 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: the facility. So we basically are part of the defensive 239 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: line group. We're that close to be able to not 240 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: only here see, but also feel as well. And then 241 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: once you gets to the veterans here and a JJ 242 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: Watt and Zach Allen. It's amazing the power that you 243 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: can not just feel literally feel, but you know it's 244 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: coming because well, you're talking about a JJ Watt has 245 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: been in the rigue for a number of number of 246 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 1: years and knows what is expected of them. Yeah, I'm 247 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: sure you know some of them. Probably. I don't know 248 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 1: if it was based on draft picks, but you know, 249 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: normally when you have a rookie mini camp, you have 250 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: the tryout guys, you have your own draft picks, and 251 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: you have undrafted free and so whoever was in the 252 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: front of the line, they will be now in the 253 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: back of the line when J. J. Watt comes back 254 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 1: to Zach Allen, Lecky, Michael Dogbee and you know, obviously 255 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: we'll have to see what Kiki looks like in a uniform. 256 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: But um, yeah, it's it's it's interesting and that's where 257 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: you can also learn. You know, you see a guy 258 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 1: do it and you look at his acculates and say, 259 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: he's done it at a high level. Granted he's got 260 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: to stay healthy. Referring to Wat, you look at a 261 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: guy like Zach Allen who's made progress every single year. 262 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: So um, you know that's what a lot of times 263 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: you can you can hear it from the coaches and 264 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 1: see it, but if you see another player do it, 265 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're like, Okay, that's how he's 266 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 1: lined up. That's the way I'm going to line up. 267 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: Not saying you're gonna be that player, but I think 268 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: having a guy of that ILK will definitely rub off, 269 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: and a guy like Cameron Thomas is going to be 270 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: a sponge for him. And you know, unfortunately we didn't 271 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: get a chance to see him, but he is. He's 272 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 1: been dealing with that hamstring injury, but he was working 273 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: out on the side, which is encouraging. Yeah, he was 274 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: hanging out on Friday with Buddy Morris. So no Cameron 275 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 1: Thomas during the open portion of Rookie Mini camp on Friday. Buddy, 276 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: you look at the other seven draft picks, and let's 277 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: start with tight end Trey McBride, and I'll say this, 278 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: we talk about first impressions, and I'm gonna be honest, 279 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: even though he's listed at six three, two forty five, 280 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: he looked a little small. And I'll say this, the 281 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: only reason he looks small burd gang because he was 282 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: standing next to Trey Berry at tight end out of 283 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: Boston College who was standing six s two sixty so 284 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: he had six six verses six three. So, as I 285 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: was telling you as we walked off the practice field, 286 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: I need to see McBride stand next to Zach Ertz, 287 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: stand next to Max Williams and get a better idea 288 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: of just how big McBride is, because when you're standing 289 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: next to someone who is six six, yeah, you can 290 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: get overshadowed. Literally, and Ertz is six five, Williams is 291 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: six to four. But as a first impression, Drey mcbron 292 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: is like, wow, he looks a little small. Now that's 293 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: just the first impression of how he looked. I'll say this, 294 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: I didn't see him drop a single pass. Oh, he's 295 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: got soft all practice. And what's interesting about him when 296 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: he catches the ball, he's already turning up field. A 297 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: lot of guys have to stutter, stop, catch it, turn 298 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: their hips. It's very natural and you can see why 299 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: he had over a thousand years. I'll just say this, 300 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,239 Speaker 1: Craig and I can go back to when Rob Grunkowski 301 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: was draft in the second round. He had a back issue. 302 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: Some teams didn't draft him. He'll fill out, he'll get stronger. 303 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: He obviously he's gonna have some money in his pocket, 304 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: how now that he didn't before. He obviously he had 305 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: a great home growing up. But I agree he's gonna 306 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: have to hit the weight room, get to the protein, 307 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: and you know, you don't want to take away the speed, 308 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: but you're gonna be going against you know, two hundred 309 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: and seventy pound outside linebackers and you've gotta be at 310 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: a child to shed the block. But in due time, 311 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: I like the upside. We know that he's service blocker. 312 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: He's a guy that's wi to put his face in 313 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: the fan, and we know he's going to be a weapon, 314 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: especially for the first six games with Zach Ertzon possibly 315 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: Max Williams. When it comes to twelve personnel, I do 316 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: think they're gonna run the football and he's gonna be 317 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: a part of that. So I think in due time 318 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: he will fill out. It's just that you look at 319 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: you know, six five and two forty five, and then 320 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: you see him in person, like last year when we 321 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: got Rondel Moore and I'm like, I know he was 322 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: five to seven, but he was like reminded me of 323 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: like five three. He was five to seven but when 324 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: you see him run, you're like, Okay, that's the reason 325 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: why they drafted him. And McBride does want to learn, 326 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: as we had a chance to hear from him last 327 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: week as far as learning to block and not just 328 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: be that pass catcher, although Kingsbury was very complimentary McBride 329 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: as far as how well he runs his routes, and 330 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: it might be something that we see more of McBride 331 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: as a pass catcher, be able to get on the 332 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: field quicker and then kind of learn the ins and outs, 333 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: get that strength, fill out to your point, and then 334 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: all of a sudden he can be that block or 335 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: at least chip and help out if there is because 336 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: Kyle Murray is in trouble a lot, or there's blitzing 337 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: coming from either side. Yeah, and Buddy Morris, I mean, 338 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: he's not gonna put weight on overnight. It's going to 339 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 1: take a period of time. But he's gonna get amount 340 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: a nice little diet. They'll have premap meals and all 341 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: that other stuff. So you know, I think really the 342 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 1: question becomes is the health of Max Williams because he 343 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 1: you know how I feel, he's your mac. He's even 344 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: eating potatoes, guy, and so you don't have to rely 345 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: on McBride possibly to be a blocking tight and eventually 346 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 1: he's gonna have to do it. And we know zach 347 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: Ertz is kind, he's high effort, but I'd rather have 348 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: him in the slot. So with Max Williams out there, 349 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: and I know I'm getting ahead of myself when it 350 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: comes to thirteen personnel, that's three tight downs. You can 351 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 1: utilize twelve. But really the question becomes when is Max 352 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: Williams is going to be healthy enough to contribute in 353 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: training camp or during the season. Remember the last time 354 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: Kingsbury was asked about Max Williams, he mentioned initial surgery. Now, 355 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 1: jumping to conclusions, initial means the first. So how many 356 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: surgeries has Max Williams had since that injury against the 357 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: forty nine ers in Week five. That's why at the 358 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 1: time you're like, well, you've got zach Ertz, You've got 359 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: Max Williams. You don't need a Tray McBride. Why are 360 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: you selecting him at fifty five when you have some 361 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: edge rushers that are still on the board. Well, the 362 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: team front office knows a heck a lot more about 363 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: this roster than we do, specifically the help. So that's 364 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 1: why when we're talking about, you know, two tight ends 365 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: on the field, it might be Zach Ertz and Trey 366 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: McBride as opposed to Ertz and Max Williams. I'd love 367 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: to see Max Williams back on the football field, but 368 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: two things. One he's got to be healthy, and two, 369 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: this team is not going to rush him back because 370 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: they do understand his value based off how the season began, 371 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: those first four games of last season. I couldn't agree more. 372 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: And the way I look at it is is, you know, there, 373 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: if Max isn't able to go, they're gonna have to 374 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: find him with someone. And maybe that guy's on the 375 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: roster ain't Erson's more of a flex guy. He looks 376 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: maybe he's more of a tight end playing wide receiver, 377 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: but they won't stand pat But I couldn't agree more. 378 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: He'll get all the time in the world to get healthy. 379 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 1: He's a big locker room guy. I think we're all 380 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: rooting for him. I mean, he's just what he's been 381 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: meant to this team when he's been healthy. And you know, ideally, 382 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: you know, I do think that's team wants to run 383 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: more twelve personnel and he would be between all three. 384 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: I think they would all have a role there, regardless 385 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 1: of who catches the ball and who's a better blocker. 386 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: You still have David Wells Dion Yelder on the roster. 387 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: Wells six six two sixty missed five weeks last season 388 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: because of a hand injury, and then Yelder, who was 389 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: signed to a futures contractor the four year veterans spent 390 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: last season with the Buccaneers, does have experience. It's limited 391 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: amount of experience, but six four two fifty five so 392 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: more in the mold of an Earth's Max Williams. When 393 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: you're talking about height and weight. Yeah, and it's it's 394 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 1: pretty clear. You know, they had Durrell Daniels and Demetrius 395 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 1: Harris on the roster, and it's pretty clear that they 396 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 1: went in a different direction. And getting back to the 397 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: ride pick, he was the best available player at fifty five. 398 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: And again we always talked about this draft having it 399 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: was deep, and you want to find a young tight 400 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: end that you can groom for the future, so you're 401 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: not going out and having to spend money on a 402 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: thirty two year old guy like Zach Ertz, even though 403 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: he's been very productive in this Cardinals offense. So I 404 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: understand what they were doing it. It It was just with 405 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: so many other needs, you're thinking, all right, but this 406 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: is really about this offense in the future, and we 407 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 1: talked about getting that young tight end where you know, 408 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: three or four years from now, this guy could be 409 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 1: one of the top tight ends, possibly in the division 410 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 1: or in the conference. Yeah, he certainly proved it on 411 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: the college level. Now the question is can you do 412 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: it here on this stage. We mentioned Cameron Thomas not 413 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: practicing at least during the open portion on Friday, so 414 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: a lot of eyes when you talk about edge rushers, 415 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: and those two third round selections went to my j 416 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 1: Sanders wearing number forty one. I'll say this, he looked tall, 417 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 1: looked more like a safety than he did in edge rusher, 418 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: even though he is listed at two forty eight and 419 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: that's probably where he feels he's best at in that 420 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: two forty five to two fifty five range. Moved very 421 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: well and looked like Chandler Jones in that he was 422 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 1: dancing to the music. We would always see when they 423 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: would get out four team stretch. The music is blaring 424 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: and there would be Chandler Jones doing a little motion 425 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: to the music and Sanders was doing much the same thing, 426 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: and you got like, okay, well that's one thing he's 427 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 1: got going for him. Now we'll just see if you 428 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: can rush the quarterback like the Chandler jumps. I mean 429 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: maybe it's just you know, music is very distinguishing. It's 430 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: good for their heart. He listened to something and it 431 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: kind of gets you pumped up. You can recall maybe 432 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: when you first heard that song. So I'm all for 433 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: it versus a guy just you know, walking to each 434 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: drill and that will not happen in this workout. And 435 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: you're looking at different position drills with outside linebackers. Coach 436 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: Charlie Bullen Sanders plus Jesse Looketta, we're working with outside linebackers. 437 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: Looketta again, one of those tweeterers, if you will, but 438 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: is going to be starting as an outside linebacker, wearing 439 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: for number forty three, and all of a sudden, forty 440 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: three like, oh, Hassan Reddick. Well that's now, all of 441 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: a sudden, you got to reprogram your mind a little 442 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: bit with these new numbers. But you're looking he's six three, 443 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: two fifty three, so and that's and he mentioned Hassan Reddick. 444 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 1: As far as different players that they watch at their 445 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 1: certain positions. So Sanders Looketta Thomas all three, and Kingsbury 446 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: asked about those three as far as you know outside Rusher, 447 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: outside of Marcus Golden, what are you gonna do? Kingsbury quote, 448 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: It's impossible to replace a Hall of Fame rusher like Chandler. 449 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: We know that, but as a unit and schematically, we've 450 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: got to be able to find that production somehow, and 451 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: I think those guys will all add to it end quote. 452 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 1: And it's that schematically part up to Vance Joseph and 453 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: his coaching staff to scheme it up. I think it 454 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: puts a lot on the plates of coach Joseph, not 455 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: that he can't do it, but you certainly would like 456 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: to see a little bit more, at least from my end, 457 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: because you always go back. It's coaching from Monday to Saturday, 458 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 1: and then on Sunday. It's up to the players. Sorry, 459 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 1: Vance Joseph's not on the football field, so who you 460 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: can scheme it up all you want, and maybe you 461 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: can for a couple of games or half a season. Yes, 462 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: they did it when Chandler Jones was hurting twenty twenty, 463 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: but roster was much different than compared to Now, Yeah, 464 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: I understand that coaching in bertrand Berry has always been 465 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: a big fan of that. But but if you know, 466 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: if Vans is calling the game on the sidelines, and 467 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: you know what you worked on during the week, if 468 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: you feel like that's your strength, and I'm sure in 469 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: the perfect scenario, Craig he would love to play man 470 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: and man pressed across the board. Now it's a matter 471 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 1: of dow you have two or three corners that can 472 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 1: cover and you know, physicality when I'm really looking forward 473 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: to seeing Jeff Gladney and you know, more development in 474 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: Marco Wilson and Byron Murphy. You got Antonio Hamilton here, 475 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: We got a chance to talk to the young cornerback. 476 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: He's tall, Christian Matthew. Christian Matthews. I mean, I like 477 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: the fact, yes he's twenty five years old, but there's 478 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: a maturity factor to him and to me, he could 479 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: be another guy that plays on special teams. We'll see 480 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: what happens with Robert Alford. But you know, ideally stopping 481 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 1: the run and being in a play man and man 482 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you can start scheming 483 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: up bringing more than they can block. And I think 484 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: that's where Vance really has earned his keep. Matthew a 485 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: seventh round selection, one of those question marks, if you will, 486 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: and discussed on Friday after her that first practice on 487 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: just how close he was to walk in away from 488 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: the game of football. He had been bounced around Georgia 489 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: Southern Sandford Valdosta State loses season because of COVID nineteen 490 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: and had some serious discussions with his family, including his girlfriend, 491 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: as far as what do I do. Do I put 492 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 1: football in the rear view mirror? Do I attempt to, 493 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 1: you know, move my career in a different direction, And 494 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,479 Speaker 1: he mentioned that he had I had a job offer 495 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: as a store director at a local Walmart and it 496 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 1: was a conversation and what he called a real candid 497 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: conversation with his girlfriend. Hey give it one more shot, 498 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: one more opportunity of this game of football and see 499 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: what happens. And whendn't you know it? He gets drafted 500 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, Yes, he's twenty five, and 501 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: he's older than Byron Murphy, and he's older than Marco Wilson. 502 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: Yet Kyla Murray, Yeah, and here he is. And according 503 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 1: to one member on the coaching staff, one not only 504 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: does he look the part. But I was told he's 505 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,719 Speaker 1: got a chance now as a seventh round picks, had 506 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: a chance this season? Or is that hey practice squad 507 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: and we'll see if we can't get you on the 508 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: regular season roster later this year or next year. Well, 509 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: I mean, let's you mentioned three different places that he played, 510 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: and because he ran out of eligibility, he had to 511 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: go to a smaller school most recent. But again, when 512 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 1: you're twenty four, twenty three, twenty four years old, you're 513 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: still chasing that dream. And now you get to twenty 514 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: five and you're thinking, if I get drafted. I mean, 515 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: the fact that he got drafted again flood the position. 516 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: But I do definitely like his size, and you know 517 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 1: that's it. Maybe when they they're talking about finding a 518 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: diamond and the rough, that could be the guy even 519 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: though he was a late pick, but you can't. I 520 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: liked this maturity. He's been responsible for everything he's done 521 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: in his life, and he was close and I'm glad 522 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,479 Speaker 1: he got drafted and he's got a chance here because 523 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 1: you know, we get to week eight or week nine, 524 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: we may need to see him on the field based 525 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: on who's healthy and who's up playing up the park. 526 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: That phone call definitely changed my life. D Friday Darren 527 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: Urban has a great story on easy cardinals dot com. 528 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: Phenomenal story. In fact, Matthew retwitted it. Liked it. So 529 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: you you rote for players based off how they got here. 530 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: I wrote for stories and he's got a great story. 531 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: And h one of these drafts. Oh yeah, they all 532 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 1: have a story. And in the more you learn about him, 533 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 1: you're like your root for them. You want everyone to succeed, 534 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: and it's impossible for everyone to succeed, but they all 535 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 1: have a background, and this Christian Matthew would be a 536 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 1: phenomenal story. Not I mean comparing Kurt Warner with the 537 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: you know, stocking grocery shells. Well, here was going to 538 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: be a store director at a Walmart and all of 539 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 1: a sudden, you know what happens is his career in 540 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: the NFL to where he's working Sundays as opposed to 541 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: work in a nine to five job. I mean, in 542 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: an instant, that phone call has changed his life, even 543 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: if it is just for a small period of time. Well, 544 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: I got a thing. You know. Listen, a lot of 545 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 1: guys think they're gonna go a lot higher because you know, 546 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: let me get on my soapbox real quick, because after, 547 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: you know, the first couple months of the draft, we 548 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: have forty five guys that are mocked to go in 549 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 1: the first round, and then all of a sudden, their 550 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: agents say, well, this team likes you in the second 551 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: or third round. I got no issue with the guy 552 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: coming in with a chip on his shoulder because they 553 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: think they should have been drafted a lot higher. This 554 00:27:55,760 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 1: entire class, and maybe takeaway McBride because he didn't go 555 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: in the first round. We don't see a lot of 556 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 1: running backs going in the first round. You know, tight 557 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,199 Speaker 1: end obviously, teams feel like you can get him in 558 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: the second or third round, but everyone else felt like 559 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 1: they should have been drafted a lot higher. And I'm 560 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,400 Speaker 1: all four use that as motivation, you know, whether it's 561 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: playing angry or just accepting it and saying, I'm gonna 562 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: work on my next contract, but I'm gonna put the 563 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: work in now. So I like what all these guys said, 564 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: and it's interesting just to follow their I mean, one 565 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: didn't want to have like nine siblings, Yes, that was Jesse, 566 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: Looketta nine and really growing up with girls and sisters 567 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: really became part of his life five sisters quote, I 568 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: never really got to use the bathroom. That was a 569 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: great life and that was yeah, a great line from 570 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,959 Speaker 1: the Penn States outside linebacker. You'll learn more about these 571 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: kids again, I'll keep calling them kids. And Looketta from Canada. 572 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 1: His mom emigrated from the Democratic Republic of Congo in 573 00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty. So here he is with an opportunity you 574 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: know that he might never have gotten. And now all 575 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: of a sudden you sit there and you root for 576 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: a success story like that. And he got a chance 577 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: to play at Penn State is a big time program. 578 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: And he was very, very good at Penn State. Honorable 579 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: all big ten, sixty one tackles, eight and a half 580 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: tackles for loss. And we talked about is what he 581 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: was able to do at the Senior Bowl. Two sacks 582 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl. And that stands out because I 583 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: think the Senior Bowl is becoming more and more important 584 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: to scout size because yeah, what you do within your 585 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: own conference. Okay, what kind of conference are you playing in? Now, 586 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: let's bring everyone in. Now it's seniors. It's not under 587 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: class unless you graduate. Yes, that's true. Good catch. Now 588 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: bring everyone together and now you're going against better quality competition. 589 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: I trade McBride going against the SEC and he sat 590 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: there and told us I can play against these guys 591 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: where he played at a smaller school and probably didn't 592 00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: get that opportunity. I think you refresh, remember how many 593 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: Cardinal players were drafted from the Senior Bowl. If I 594 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: remember it was, let's see a draft class of eights. 595 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: I believe it was six of the eights were drafted 596 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: who were at the Senior Bowl. Okay, and again we 597 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: talk about these joint practices here. You take guys out 598 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: of different conferences, You get two coaching staffs, and all 599 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: of a sudden, the scouts and coaches are standing on 600 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: the sideline. They can talk to you at night, and 601 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: Jim Naggie does a great job, and everyone goes back 602 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: and watches the film of practice and then and usually 603 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: the teams will leave because they'll get the game film 604 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: of the Saturday game that they have. But I guarantee 605 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: you when you're when you're putting your board together, besides 606 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: looking at you know Trey McBride playing in his conference, 607 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: I'm going back to the Senior Bowl. How did he 608 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: How did he fare against the guy that played in 609 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: the Power five Conference. You know, physicality, speed, you know, 610 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: just Is can he hold up? And Cordy McBride he 611 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: felt like, you know, I can, I can roll with 612 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: the big guys. So that's impressive. But Senior Bowl, again, 613 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: it all starts with the NFL PA game, that East 614 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: West Shrine game. But I'm telling you, and Jim Nagy 615 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: has the great slogan, the draft starts at the Senior 616 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: Bowl and that's where it starts. And look at all 617 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: the different quarterbacks they try to bring in there next year. 618 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: It's gonna be fascinating because we're gonna see a lot 619 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: of quarterbacks probably going to the top five or top eight. 620 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: Paul Marquis Hay's the Cardinals last selection, seventh round, number two, 621 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: fifty seven overall. The guard out of Oklahoma. He was 622 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl. Actually got some work in at 623 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: right guard, but he's a left guard, as is Lucida Smith. Now, 624 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: I'll say this, the offensive line where we're positioned there 625 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: kind of literally on the other end the practice field. 626 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 1: So it was kind of hard. And when you're talking 627 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: about offensive lineman, I think it's tough to judge when 628 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: you're just wearing helmets and shorts. It's difficult when you're 629 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: not going up against that you don't have that defensive 630 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: lineman or outside linebacker going up against you. So I 631 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: think the jury is still out, if you will, on 632 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: Smith and Hey's outside of the fact that they both 633 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: look very, very big in their uniform. Yeah, three fourteen 634 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: and three eighteen. And I think you know, Sean Cougler 635 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: and Brian nackin the assistant offensive line coach, I think 636 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: they want to cross truck these guys because you know 637 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: Rodney Hudson's you know, getting a little longer the tooth. 638 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: He missed a couple of games last year. Now that 639 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: clearly he's one of their better linemen. Hopefully he plays 640 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: a couple more years, but you want to make sure 641 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: you have some depth behind Justin Pugh. And we'll see 642 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 1: what happens with Will Hernandez at right guard because you know, 643 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, Kugler's going to play 644 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: the best five and you know you got you gotta 645 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: consider they're gonna dress eight on game day. Hopefully we'll 646 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: get more where Justin Murray is and Josh Josh Jones. 647 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: I think Jones, based on his size, should be more 648 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: of a tackle Justin Murray can play a lot of 649 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: different positions, and so we'll see. But they got to 650 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: come up with the top eight and hopefully one of 651 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: these two guys can be possibly active that you know, 652 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: they both played in different conferences, but I like their 653 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 1: size and they're gonna get coached up, and it's just 654 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: a matter how they can retain information and make sure 655 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: they don't make the mental areas during practice because coaches 656 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: got to trust you on game day. The last draft 657 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: pick want to touch on, and that is USC running 658 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: back Yante Ingram six feet two twenty one, that big, 659 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: physical back that Kingsbury discussed on Friday that could obviously 660 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: make the roster as a third or fourth running back 661 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,719 Speaker 1: and then work your way up the depth chart depending 662 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: on how well you do want special teams. But in 663 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: the limited pound of time that I was paying attention 664 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: to him as far as just looking bigger and then 665 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: the ability to catch out of the backfield, which he 666 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: showed he could do in college. Yeah, they had a 667 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 1: couple of running backs that had actually flashed. I mean again, 668 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was a tryout guy, but 669 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 1: they had another running back and you know, obviously you 670 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: know and Jonathan Warren are not here obviously, no James Conner, 671 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 1: Jaylen Samuel, so these guys get a chance. But I 672 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: think James Saxon does a great job when it comes 673 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: to you know, he's a left handed so he'll throw 674 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: the ball. Sometimes it comes out a little bit different, 675 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 1: but I would agree he looked apart and when they 676 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: put the pads on, I'm really curious to see how 677 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: he runs between the tackles and outside the tackles. Cardinals 678 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: Covered two presented by Hunday proud partner The Arrows on 679 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 1: a Cardinal. As we continue here on this Monday post, 680 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: Rookie Mini Camp. Yes, Kingsbury did address the media on Friday, 681 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: and you knew it was going to happen to MJ 682 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: and it was the third question asking in our area 683 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,919 Speaker 1: of questions of follow ups. But we have not heard 684 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 1: from the head coach since the news of DeAndre Hopkins's suspension. 685 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: Kingsbury obviously asked a lot of different questions about it. 686 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 1: When did you know? He mentioned that that's more of 687 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 1: a Steve come question, the Cardinals general manager, but just 688 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 1: how this team deals with this loss, and we've discussed 689 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: it and there were no real answers from Kingsbury. And 690 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 1: I do think some of that is maybe some gamesmanship 691 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,800 Speaker 1: keeping things under wraps, and the others just trying to 692 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: wait until you get these players on the field, ie 693 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: Marquis Brown, AJ Green, Rondel Moore, Zacharts. How do these 694 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: pieces fit together. It's one thing to draw it up 695 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 1: on a chalkboard or the whiteboard. It's another thing to 696 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: see it in action. So it does help. And Kingsbury 697 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 1: mentioned that Mark Keith Brown, Yeah, it will make up 698 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 1: for the loss. Now, how much do they make up 699 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 1: because you're not going to replaced hop No, But he's 700 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 1: probably the closest thing they have to on the roster 701 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 1: right now, and I'm just curious see where he's going 702 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 1: to line up. Obviously they know more than I do. 703 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 1: I mean, when it comes to play calling him, you know, 704 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 1: it's easy to be subjective or it's you know, uh, 705 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 1: you know I always say that, um I was saying, 706 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: I like to say that hindsight's unbeaten. Yes, after the fact. 707 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: So yeah, and without knowing anything, and we're going to 708 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,320 Speaker 1: talk about this, I gotta think there's got to be 709 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: a plan to run, run the ball and try to 710 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 1: shorten the game a little bit. Hopefully your defense can 711 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 1: you know, carry their water because there's gonna be some 712 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 1: new faces out there, and then try to run some 713 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 1: twelve personnel. So yeah, you'd love to see him come 714 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 1: out and go four. Why But right now I think 715 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 1: that you got to just know what you have on 716 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 1: the roster. But I'm looking for Hollywood Brown to really 717 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 1: explode in those first six games, all right, Speaking running 718 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 1: the ball more, the question asked of Kingsbury, could we 719 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: see more James Conner or Eno Benjamin or Keyante Ingram, 720 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: whomever carrying the rock a little bit more early on 721 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: in the season. Kingsbury's response, quote, we got to be 722 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 1: better at it, meaning running the ball without Hopkins, and 723 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 1: then added this teams that made a run last season, 724 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: quote they were able to still sustain the run end quote. 725 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: Now I went back and looked, because now this is 726 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: not a deep dive like the coaching staff has done. 727 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 1: But in the seven games Hopkins missed, the Cardinals averaged 728 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 1: four point two yards attempt that was their season average. 729 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 1: Now they averaged four point two yards attempt or less 730 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 1: five times in those seven games, So maybe it's more 731 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 1: of a consistent as far as being able to sustain 732 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 1: the run as opposed to year overall numbers. Now, in 733 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 1: the playoffs, they couldn't run the ball, but they got 734 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 1: so far behind that they weren't even trying to run 735 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,280 Speaker 1: the ball. But if you just look at the seven 736 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,839 Speaker 1: games Hopkins missed, Cardinals were pretty effective of running the ball. 737 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 1: But those were end of game totals. And I'm sure 738 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: Kingsbury has numbers and analytics to come back at me 739 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 1: and say, well, on first down we need to do 740 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 1: better here, or third and short we weren't as successful, 741 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,319 Speaker 1: or in the fourth col those kind of breakdowns, the 742 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 1: deep dives, if you will, that teams do at the 743 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 1: end of the season, and you know, let's peel the 744 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 1: curtains back a little bit. Chase Evans couldn't stay healthy. 745 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 1: I mean him and Connor. I think they missed. He 746 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 1: missed four or five games. The first time they were 747 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 1: back together was in Detroit, and obviously that didn't go well. 748 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 1: And then you had nine different line combinations. So my 749 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,399 Speaker 1: ice tell me that they didn't run the football as 750 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 1: well as they did in the first half of the season, 751 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 1: and that's because you were behind the sticks and Kyler 752 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 1: was obviously coming back from an injury, and you didn't 753 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 1: have a guy that can stretch the field. And obviously 754 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 1: there was some miscommunication with A. J. Green and the quarterback. 755 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of factors. But my ice tell 756 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 1: me at the offensive line wasn't as good down the stretch. 757 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 1: And I'll start with DJ Humphreys. He honestly he should 758 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 1: have made the Pro Bowl in twenty twenty. I think 759 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 1: he made it as an altermate this year, and rightfully 760 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 1: so because he's been on the cuff. But he did 761 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,439 Speaker 1: not have a good season, and that's something I'm sure 762 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: that he goes back and launched the film. He's a 763 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,399 Speaker 1: stand up guy, so I'm assuming he's gonna get better 764 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 1: because they're gonna need him at left tackle. All right, 765 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 1: So your eyes told you one thing. What if I 766 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:24,240 Speaker 1: told you this though, and get your reaction. Cardinals late 767 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 1: in the year last season, they had over one hundred 768 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,839 Speaker 1: rushing yards in each of their final six games, yet 769 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 1: they never scored more than twenty three points in any 770 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 1: of those games. So overall, we always talk about that 771 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 1: one hundred yard mark. You look at the thirty rushing 772 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 1: attempts and that can kind of tell you how well 773 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 1: the game went for the Cardinals, or how well it 774 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,840 Speaker 1: didn't go for the Cardinals, but getting to that century 775 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 1: mark each of the final six games. Yet we know 776 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 1: what the team's record was over those six games. It 777 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: wasn't good. So the numbers say one thing. Your eyes 778 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 1: tell you something different. And that goes back to, all right, 779 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 1: your gut versus analytics, and I would lean towards gut, 780 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 1: lean toward what your eyes tell you, and then try 781 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,799 Speaker 1: to figure out what wasn't working, because yeah, you can 782 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,400 Speaker 1: get over one hundred yards on the ground, but was 783 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 1: that a thirty yard run and then a bunch of 784 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 1: five six one yard, one yard, one yard, and it 785 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,280 Speaker 1: just you gotta be able to move the chains. Yeah, 786 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 1: and again you know one hundred yards running back knees 787 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 1: what sixty three yards now to get a thousand at 788 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,399 Speaker 1: their seventeen game schedule. So yeah, I mean, I mean, 789 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:33,839 Speaker 1: tell me you ran the ball thirty times. That means 790 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 1: you're controlling time of possession, you're moving the sticks, you're 791 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 1: probably pretty efficient on third down. But again, it's a 792 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 1: passing league. But the run sets up the pass, and 793 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 1: you know you can That's so there's a reason why 794 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 1: these wide receivers and quarterbacks are getting paid all this money. 795 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 1: So we'll see what the Cardinals decide to do, and 796 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 1: it might be something where it's trial and error and 797 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,319 Speaker 1: practice in the preseason. In week one, what works, what 798 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 1: doesn't work, and there might be a lot of we 799 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,839 Speaker 1: might see a lot of moving parts as far as 800 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 1: the offense and where guys line up, Where does Marquis 801 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,839 Speaker 1: Brown best fits week one versus Week three, and then 802 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 1: you kind of figure out how do we reincorporate the 803 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,799 Speaker 1: hop back into the office. Yeah, I mean, you know, 804 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 1: we think we look at guys like Kyle shanahan and 805 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,719 Speaker 1: Sean mcvain just from a division standpoint and how much 806 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 1: motion they use, and it's it's really they're trying to 807 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 1: get you on matchups. And so I would think what 808 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 1: a guy like Trey McBride and you know, Hollywood Brown, 809 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 1: even Ron del Moore. You can move those guys around. 810 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 1: You get creative. We're talking about I Candy, but you 811 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,800 Speaker 1: got to get past the line of scrimmage obviously to 812 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 1: break a tackle or something. But maybe we'll see a 813 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 1: little bit more motion just from a standpoint of we're 814 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,360 Speaker 1: trying to get our biggest strength that gets maybe possibly 815 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 1: your weakness. And you hope then that you never want 816 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,880 Speaker 1: to lose someone at the caliber of de hop But 817 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 1: one of those blessings in disguise because it forces Kingsbury 818 00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 1: and his offensive coaches to have to get out of 819 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 1: their comfort zone and figure something out. And we know 820 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,720 Speaker 1: that he always plans ahead, you know, the first six games. 821 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,400 Speaker 1: You know he's probably chumping at the bit when we 822 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 1: get to week seven because now, all of a sudden, 823 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,720 Speaker 1: you can open up that playbook. But again, the biggest 824 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 1: difference is they weren't able to make adjustments during the season. 825 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 1: He admitted that they also talked about maybe using Rondel 826 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,759 Speaker 1: Moore in a different role. And again I think Carler 827 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:25,840 Speaker 1: was on one hundred percent, no excuses. You got to 828 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 1: play well when he stuff on the field the offensive line, 829 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 1: but you may have to take it a different approach. 830 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,439 Speaker 1: In those first game. The whole idea is to win. 831 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,879 Speaker 1: It's not about style points, not putting up forty points 832 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,720 Speaker 1: a game. It's about winning and finishing in the fourth quarter. 833 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:39,799 Speaker 1: And they did that in the first half of the season. 834 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 1: They did not do that in the second half. Well 835 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 1: about Game one, Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs, 836 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 1: and that was a topic of conversation. On Friday, Kingsbury 837 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 1: asked about opening against his former Texas Tech quarterback Big Smile, 838 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 1: and then joked quote, I was really thankful to the 839 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,479 Speaker 1: schedule makers for giving us a young quarterback that hadn't 840 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:04,440 Speaker 1: quite found his way in the league just yet. Obviously 841 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,440 Speaker 1: a lot of tongue in cheek there, because it is 842 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,240 Speaker 1: right out of the gate boom. You're gonna find whether 843 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 1: you are ready or not ready for this season. Minus 844 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 1: de hot Well, I mean he did say Mahomes sent 845 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,919 Speaker 1: him a couple of yeah the big I emojis, yeah, 846 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 1: and he said the schedule hadn't even come out yet. 847 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,880 Speaker 1: He's like, thanks, Now that's gonna be a storyline. But 848 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 1: I do like the fact that they're gonna be in 849 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 1: Week one. I know they're a good team and they're 850 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,319 Speaker 1: knocking on the door, you know, But they don't have 851 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill and Andy Reid does a good job. They 852 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 1: have some other receivers. Obviously it's gonna come down to 853 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,760 Speaker 1: the Mahomes and Kelsey in their defense. But hey, vans 854 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 1: Joves has spent about two or three months last year 855 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 1: preparing for the Titans and they went in there just 856 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:50,840 Speaker 1: like anything else. They were supposed to go to the 857 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, and they were the number one seed and 858 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 1: they turned the ball over three times. So you know, 859 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,880 Speaker 1: it's about matchups, but it's gonna be a tough matchup. 860 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,720 Speaker 1: But it'd be nice just to see this Cardinals team 861 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,440 Speaker 1: play consistent football where you don't beat yourselves and all 862 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,840 Speaker 1: of a sudden you're wondering after the game it's just 863 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,239 Speaker 1: going to come back and haunt us at the end 864 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 1: of the year. And then week two you got the 865 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 1: Raiders with Kingsbury's good friend now head coach Josh McDaniels 866 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,480 Speaker 1: their time together in New England, but a playoff team 867 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,319 Speaker 1: from a year ago AFC West. AFC West and we 868 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 1: know how we know how brutal that division. We expect 869 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,839 Speaker 1: to be much like the NFC West. But coming out 870 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 1: of the gate you've got Patrick Mahomes week one, Chandler 871 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,640 Speaker 1: Jones week two. You're gonna find out a lot about 872 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 1: this Cardinals team. Early in the season, it's just can 873 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 1: you can you tread water over these six games before 874 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 1: you get d hop back because you don't want you 875 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,360 Speaker 1: can't win, you can't clinch a playoffs spot, in September. 876 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 1: But if you get off to a slow start, you 877 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 1: can certainly lose a playoff spot. It can put you 878 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,759 Speaker 1: behind the eight ball. And you know, and Cardinals are 879 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 1: also gonna face Justin Herbert late in the year, and 880 00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:01,400 Speaker 1: then Russell Wilson, and both of those are once a 881 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 1: home game and one's a road game. They're at the 882 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,839 Speaker 1: Broncos in week fifteen. And in getting Josh McDaniels early, 883 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,040 Speaker 1: he's a really good coach. Obviously that they're you know, 884 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 1: they have a great tight end. Obviously, edn't changer Jones 885 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 1: with Crosby. You know, Josh McDaniels is a good head coach. Now, 886 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,320 Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure he's not going to get nervous, 887 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 1: but I like the fact that they're getting him early 888 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,239 Speaker 1: because there's there's a lot that goes on on the 889 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 1: sidelines when you move over a seat. Now clearly, you know, 890 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,600 Speaker 1: obviously he was right hand of Belichick, so I'm sure 891 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 1: he's got a lot on his plate. But roster wise, 892 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 1: I think the Raiders could be up another playoff team. 893 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 1: Kingsbury called the schedule awesome. We'll see if he maintains 894 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,839 Speaker 1: that adjective at the end of the season. But when 895 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:44,440 Speaker 1: you've got the Chiefs, Patriots, Somebuddy Night Football, the Buccaneers 896 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,840 Speaker 1: on Christmas Night, you've got four primetime games. So yeah, 897 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 1: and we've talked about it because just based off the 898 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,279 Speaker 1: list of opponents that the team was facing, you knew 899 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,319 Speaker 1: it was going to be an uphill battle based off 900 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,239 Speaker 1: the opposing quarterbacks. But then have you you have it 901 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,840 Speaker 1: mapped out for you a week by week and everyone 902 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 1: moves to those first six weeks without d hop and 903 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,279 Speaker 1: then how you finish because we know Kingsbury and the 904 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:10,120 Speaker 1: inability to finish seasons, well, that second half collapse and 905 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,399 Speaker 1: here you've got three out of four on the road 906 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,759 Speaker 1: to in twenty twenty two. Well, and then you didn't 907 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,400 Speaker 1: bring up week three because you play the Rams in 908 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,439 Speaker 1: week three and week ten and then then again there's 909 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,560 Speaker 1: no there's no cupcakes. It's it's a one to week proposition. 910 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,600 Speaker 1: We know you can go from the penthouse to the 911 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,919 Speaker 1: outhouse real quick in this league, just as the team 912 00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 1: is playing was in the NBA playoffs. It's it's hard 913 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,840 Speaker 1: to win a championship, but you gotta you know, obviously 914 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,080 Speaker 1: you got to go off to a good start. Now 915 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 1: you know, if you if you split the first two 916 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:40,680 Speaker 1: and then you're one and two all of a sudden, 917 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 1: you know you worst cases. You don't want to be 918 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,880 Speaker 1: less than three and three in my opinion, when Hot returns, 919 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,960 Speaker 1: now you get Grady and four and two. But I 920 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 1: think you have to have at least a five hundred record. 921 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,440 Speaker 1: And I do think the NFC West, the Rams um 922 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:57,839 Speaker 1: you know they have a good front line, but they 923 00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,160 Speaker 1: don't have a lot of depth. It's train Lands going 924 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,120 Speaker 1: to be the promised guy in San Franci once again. 925 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:07,160 Speaker 1: In Seattle, they I thought they had a really good draft. 926 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,799 Speaker 1: Maybe they're gonna ask Drew Locke not to lose games, 927 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 1: try to manage games. So I do think teams are 928 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,600 Speaker 1: gonna beat up on each other, and we talked about 929 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,920 Speaker 1: it last year four and two. I would sign that 930 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,560 Speaker 1: for the right now, but again it's when these games happened, 931 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:21,920 Speaker 1: and you got to make sure you take care of 932 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,760 Speaker 1: business with late in Week eighteen against the San Francisco 933 00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,560 Speaker 1: Forts on the road again. Here are the first six 934 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:34,239 Speaker 1: games Chiefs, Raiders, Rams, Panthers, Eagles, Seahawks three at home, 935 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:38,440 Speaker 1: three on the road before DeAndre Hopkins returns for that Thursday, 936 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:43,360 Speaker 1: Night's Amazon Prime video game on October twentieth against the 937 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,320 Speaker 1: Saints in Week seven, which it was brought up to 938 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,920 Speaker 1: keep Gray Hopkins returns. He'll have three days of practice 939 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,560 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, he's got to play a game. 940 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,920 Speaker 1: And those three days of practice are more like slow 941 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,799 Speaker 1: walkthroughs because it's a short week. So the question wasn't 942 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,239 Speaker 1: really be ready? Yeah, he'll be more. He'll be the 943 00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:05,399 Speaker 1: only one that's ready. Oh yeah, he's probably gonna show 944 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,760 Speaker 1: up with the facility at like five am that Monday 945 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,160 Speaker 1: morning because he's right now. He'll be vacated from the 946 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,960 Speaker 1: facility for six weeks or six games. Six games. I 947 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,720 Speaker 1: gotta make sure I say six games. But he'll be ready. 948 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,120 Speaker 1: He'll be chomping at the bit. And obviously it's gonna 949 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,319 Speaker 1: be probably hard for him to watch the games, but 950 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,640 Speaker 1: maybe you know, this team can win a couple of 951 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,000 Speaker 1: games and when he gets back and improve the record 952 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:31,080 Speaker 1: moving forward, burd Gang, if you're looking for tickets, season tickets, 953 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:35,240 Speaker 1: single game tickets, Asy Cardinals dot com slash tickets again, 954 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:39,320 Speaker 1: Asy Cardinals dot com slash tickets. And on that note, 955 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,239 Speaker 1: we will put a lid on this edition of Cardinals 956 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,600 Speaker 1: cover two, presented by Hunday probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals, 957 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:49,040 Speaker 1: has always special thanks to our executive producer Jim Almahundro 958 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,759 Speaker 1: for Mike Drecky, I'm preg Riel Loup. We'll talk to 959 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 1: you next time you're on Cardinals Cover two