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Good morning, morning guys on this jam packed 21 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: edition of the show. How you guys feeling it well? 22 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 3: I mean, I can't get a damn pick right in 23 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 3: my brackets. So there's that. You know, we're tied. I 24 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 3: gotta be last place. No, No, you're in like fifth, 25 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 3: we're in fifth place. Yeah, but you guys both least 26 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 3: hit your locks. I got Ohio State completely just forgetting 27 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 3: to show up. I mean, sorry, Buckeyes fans. 28 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 2: Which is the one that's the truth, which is the 29 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 2: one that really crawled up your ass and stood there? 30 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 2: He's crawled up here? 31 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 3: Probably high point because I've watched them actually a little bit, 32 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 3: and I had a feeling like that was going to happen. 33 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 2: Probably, uh, hamster, hamster. No, I'm just because nobody's gonna 34 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 2: win all of these. Nobody's gonna win all of these. 35 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: But it's you know, South Florida was probably the most 36 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: frustrating because my wife and son picked Louisville, and I'm like, 37 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:58,919 Speaker 2: all right, I'll be the Country and I'll take South Florida. 38 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 2: I think I might have had them winning two games, 39 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 2: So that's a wrap on that. But yeah, listen, attorney's 40 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 2: attorney's a wild plays. My son couldn't figure out why 41 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 2: he had losses. He just thought he was gonna win everything. 42 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 2: If he wrote it down it was just or if 43 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 2: I wrote it down for him, he was just gonna 44 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 2: win everything. I was like, now, man, this is the 45 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 2: way this works, and there's probably gonna be people who 46 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 2: have everything go up in flames coming up later on today. 47 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 3: I think if Duke would have went down, I mean 48 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 3: in that game, for anyone who watched close, how about Sienna, 49 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 3: They played their five starters basically the entire game. Before 50 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 3: the final ten seconds they finally sucked. 51 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, because some guy fouled out. Other than that, they just. 52 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 4: Exactly what they would have played the entire game. It 53 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 4: was close, really close close Duke kind of. 54 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: Jerry McNamara, the head coach there up top, Grady. 55 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, talking about John Shyer, get him some love to that. 56 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 3: That's one thing I'll say is you know, when you 57 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 3: have a match like that, all the money on the 58 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:56,679 Speaker 3: resources that Duke. 59 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 4: Has, and you know they they survived. 60 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:04,839 Speaker 3: But in large part, like John Shire knew like what 61 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 3: what he was up against and how much better his 62 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 3: his athletes were, so he knew there was a chance 63 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 3: that could be close. We're gonna win this thing. In 64 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 3: the end, he gave all the credit to Jerry mcmair. 65 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 3: He say, he's like, hey, he got him ready. He 66 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 3: came out and he did a better job preparing his guys, 67 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 3: and he was right like that senate team had. 68 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: No fear about what they were up against, who they 69 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: were playing. So the Texas b Yu game, I picked 70 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: Texas to come out of the play in. 71 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 2: Here we go. 72 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 4: It's gonna be three hours of this. 73 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: Which doesn't matter, which was a count Okay, I mean, Jonas, 74 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: you're you're in. 75 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 2: You're leading both Brady and I on on picks, so 76 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. It's just like, this is just gonna 77 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 2: be LeVar talking about how great he is. 78 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 5: What are you talking about? And what are you talking 79 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 5: about this? I thought Texas would lose. I thought that 80 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 5: would lose Texas. No, I did not. 81 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: You picked VCU though I picked, Yes, I did, but 82 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: I picked Texas to get in. So it's interesting because 83 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: I was like, Texas is showing like they're surging that 84 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: and I was like, man, but I picked Saint well 85 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: or b Yu. I picked b Yu to to win 86 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: the game. And and Buddy played a hell of a 87 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: game like the main dude on by us, like the 88 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: top rated guy in the country. 89 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 2: He played a really game. 90 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: No, No, he's he's in a wheelchair now, isn't he anyways? 91 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 5: Yeah? 92 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 3: But all I know is all I know is two 93 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 3: pros and a couple always has someone representing up on games, 94 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 3: not doing squadron. 95 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 2: We were up there for a minute, Plexico was up there. 96 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then ahead of you yeah, then you got 97 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 4: TJ and dead ass. 98 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 5: Yeah. 99 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 2: I don't know what you called my be like, hey, guys, you, 100 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 2: what the hell are y'all? 101 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 4: Knowing? 102 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 2: Man? They up top and me. I was watching it too. 103 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: I was watching the slides gouts like ooh, Brady's and lasting. 104 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: I was like, wait, wait, wait, Jonas is Oh, here's 105 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: the other part of it, and I don't want I 106 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 1: don't want to. 107 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 4: Then you realize we're right there together. 108 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, we were the same ones and Jonahs ended up 109 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 2: on top. I don't want to never a good idea. 110 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 2: I don't want to. Uh. I don't want to call 111 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 2: out the performance of the bracket itself from a functionality standpoint, 112 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 2: But I'm never quite sure how accurate the numbers are, 113 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 2: all right, and how how quick the numbers are up. 114 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 1: It's interesting because I was counting my wins and lost 115 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: usually I was like, what the hell? Like all right, 116 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: I didn't want to say that, but it sounds like 117 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: I'm like making an excuse me. 118 00:05:55,200 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 2: I usually wait until after the first first round of games, 119 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 2: so I let it cool off because I don't want 120 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 2: it to overheat. It's like my truck engine. I don't 121 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 2: want to overheat. I will watch the years what we 122 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 2: use for the bracket, so I just wait the first 123 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 2: round and then I go back and look because I 124 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 2: don't want to go on there and see some numbers 125 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 2: that aren't actually accurate and haven't been updated. So but 126 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 2: it's fun. I just can I ask you guys this 127 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 2: because we talk about the the twelve fives and the 128 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 2: six eleven's like VCU beating North Carolina. I think the 129 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 2: number is the last twenty one years there's been a 130 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 2: an eleven over a six in the NCAA tournament. So 131 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 2: twenty one years in a row and eleven seed is 132 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 2: beaten a six in the tournament. Here's my question for you. 133 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 2: Why Why is it the eleven and six? Why is 134 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 2: it the twelve and the five. I've tried to figure 135 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 2: this out because it happens every year in the tournament. 136 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 2: I think in the twelve five matchups. It's thirty four 137 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 2: of the last forty years there's been a twelve that's 138 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 2: beaten a five. So what is what is it about 139 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 2: those two numbers or is it just the line between 140 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 2: those two teams, the ranking and the and the you know, 141 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 2: the five you know spot difference or the seven spot difference. 142 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 2: Is doesn't accurately depict the difference between those two programs 143 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 2: because that happening every year. There's got to be something 144 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 2: to I don't think there's any way to correlate, like 145 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 2: well you. 146 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 3: And c had I would agree with what Jonas has said, 147 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 3: like I don't think there's this big of a margin 148 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 3: of difference between those teams, is that it's portrayed. I mean, 149 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 3: I'll go as far as saying this, I think what 150 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 3: sometimes gets overlooked and I I had to stot like 151 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 3: watching Dayton, by the way, seeing that arena, like Dayton's 152 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 3: basketball arena is incredible. It is quite possibly one of 153 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 3: the best places I've ever watched a basketball game. The 154 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 3: way it's set up, even the way the suitets are 155 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 3: set up. We weren't even in a suite, but just 156 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 3: looking up at them and like they like hang over 157 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 3: the court it's ridiculous how cool it's set up. 158 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 4: And the reason why I bring this up is because 159 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 4: they don't have a major football program. 160 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 3: Like you look Xavier there in Cincinnati, look at some 161 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 3: of these other schools. You start like really looking at them, 162 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 3: going all right, like they don't really have a major 163 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 3: football program. 164 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 4: So what do they put the resources into? 165 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 3: They put into men's basketball, and there's some other sports too, 166 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 3: But like that's. 167 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 4: Usually how it works. 168 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 3: And those are scary programs because they actually have more 169 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 3: resources than you think. I think the margins between them 170 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 3: are much smaller than people think. And then I'll lastly 171 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 3: just say the format. I mean, I think you anytime 172 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 3: you put like Wisconsin High Point and they're gonna play 173 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 3: one game sudden death, Like you get a team like 174 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 3: Wisconsin shoots a lot of threes. They could have a 175 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 3: poor shooting day, but you let those teams play best 176 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 3: out of five, Wisconson probably wins three of them. 177 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and see had the game one. 178 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 2: I mean, y'all could get in all the the. 179 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: These details and the resources us they had the game one. 180 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 4: Until they didn't. 181 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 2: That's correct, you want to hear you correlate it. Here's 182 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 2: they gave the game away. Here's a little montage of 183 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 2: Hubert Davis, the North Carolina head coach, after the game, 184 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 2: trying to explain to the media what went wrong? 185 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 3: Cubert, why did you go to just a six man 186 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 3: rotation in the second half because. 187 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 4: That was my decision? Coach? What did you generally? What 188 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 4: do you think went wrong? 189 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 3: What do you mean, Hubert, the free throws again, as 190 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 3: you mentioned a little bit of an issue tonight, Why 191 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 3: do you think that was such an issue. 192 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 4: For your team throughout the season. That's a great question. 193 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 4: I mean, we work on them, and. 194 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 2: Just not a lot there not a lot of answers 195 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 2: for a blue blood program like North Carolina, who came 196 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 2: out flat and gave that game away, and neither one 197 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 2: of those teams could score to start overtime. Nobody could score. 198 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: But when it went overtime, I was like, oh no, 199 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: oh no, Like come on, guys, like what are y'all doing? 200 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: But give vcu credit. I mean, they they kept they 201 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 1: continued to play hard, they continued to fight, and they 202 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 1: found themselves in a situation they missed that and Carolina 203 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: they missed some bunnies, man, Like they were going to 204 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: the hole. They missed some easy layups that could have 205 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: been the difference in the game. And you know, I 206 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: don't know. I just I look at it like I 207 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: would have been frustrated too. Of course, they probably work 208 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 1: on free throws. And the one kid, who's the one 209 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: kid was it Texas? He couldn't that big man. I 210 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: mean he came up big for them on the defensive 211 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: side and had a block leg that preserved the victory. 212 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,719 Speaker 1: But man, he was bricking them. He was bricking his 213 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: free throws. Guys work on free throws. Like I'll be 214 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: sitting there watching some of these guys, like, man, you're 215 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: playing major Division one basketball right now, and you can't 216 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: shoot a free throw better than that? 217 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, but don't you think that they probably shoot them 218 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 2: better in practice. But when you get out there, it's 219 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 2: a different story. 220 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: I've always wanted to I don't know, man, that's a 221 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: lot of repetition, bro. 222 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 2: So here's my comp all right, when you're playing beer pong, 223 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 2: when there's the six cups or whatever it is out there, 224 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 2: it's really easy. Then all of a sudden, you get 225 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 2: down to that one and everybody's watching and you're trying 226 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 2: to win the game. Usually I just melt down and 227 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 2: fall apart. That's how I think these guys are. They're 228 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 2: up there, they're shooting free throws. They probably get up 229 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 2: one hundred a day after practice. They've made me knock 230 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 2: in seventy seventy five of them. They feel good about things, 231 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 2: and then they get to the games and all of 232 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 2: a sudden, there's a people behind them. They're waving stuff. 233 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 2: You got guys in speedo's, you got all the other 234 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 2: things to go along with it. And then they go 235 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 2: out there and they shoot, you know, fifty five sixty percent. 236 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 2: It's got to be the pressure. It has to be pressure. 237 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 1: It's a thing. It's a thing if you can handle. 238 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 1: There's some guys that you see in practice and you'd 239 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: be like, how did this dude make it here? Like 240 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: there's no way, there's no reason this dude should be here, 241 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: And then the lights go up and you'd be like, 242 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: oh my. Matthew Thomas is one of the first names 243 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: that comes to mind, and it's an older name, but 244 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: he played at UH played at Florida State, made it 245 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: to the pros for a little bit. I was at 246 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: the under Armour game coaching him and in practice, I 247 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 1: was like, bro you got to be one of the 248 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: laziest dudes I've ever been around. 249 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 2: Man, Like what you got? So I'm like, you got 250 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 2: so much talent. 251 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 1: I can tell you're gifted, but you don't want to 252 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 1: show it, Like I don't understand. There's scouts out here, 253 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: there's people out here. What are you like, what are 254 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,599 Speaker 1: you doing? We get to the game, I don't know 255 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: if he got I don't remember. I don't think he 256 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 1: got MVP, but he probably should have. Them lights went up. 257 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: Matthew was crushing it, absolutely destroying it. And then there's 258 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: guys you'll see in practice and they do every single 259 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: minute detail correctly, they do it right. And then they 260 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: get into the game and they do every single minute 261 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: detail right. They do what they're supposed to do. But 262 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: it doesn't It doesn't flash, it doesn't show. It's they 263 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: did what they were supposed to do. It's just not 264 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: it doesn't meet the entertainment standard scale of what people 265 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: are looking for. So it's like they disappear now. Missing 266 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: free throws don't. I don't Again, if you if you 267 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: practice a free throw and you make a free throw 268 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: in practice, it's like it's repetition. 269 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 4: Like if you're. 270 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 2: Missing a free throw in a game. 271 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: I don't there's something like, yeah, you could say the 272 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: pressure got to him, but there's something more to it. 273 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: To me, there's something more to it because that's repetition, 274 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: like that's not okay, this guy can block really well 275 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: and you got to figure it out, or throwing the ball, 276 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: like maybe it's more comparable to throwing the ball shooting 277 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: a free throw. 278 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe you could shet better light on 279 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 2: a queue. But if it's something like. 280 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: Because he's a quarterback, because he's a quarterback, maybe that's 281 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: what it is. 282 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I did at any point. 283 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I played one year of youth basketball. My 284 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 2: brother paid for it. Eighty nine bucks played for the Bulls. 285 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 2: Hit a three point in the final four. 286 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: You played for the Bulls? Yeah, yeah, it was something 287 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: connected to Chicago's No. 288 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 2: That I didn't want to play for the Bulls. 289 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 4: Was he actually grew up a Celtics fan? You know? 290 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 2: Yep, it's true. 291 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 4: My guess would be this, and this has always been 292 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 4: my gripe with. 293 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 3: How in my basketball experience, uh, how people have like 294 00:14:56,360 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 3: practiced shooting free throws and I'm sure coaches switched it up. 295 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 3: I always felt like it was if something you prioritize, 296 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 3: something you repped and practiced. However, it wasn't practice like 297 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 3: it is in a game. Meaning in a game, you're 298 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 3: like you're running up and down the court, you're playing defense, 299 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 3: you're playing off and next thing you know, you get 300 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 3: the ball, you go in for a drive, you get foul, 301 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 3: you're shooting free throws, and then what. 302 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 4: Do you do? You're back into the game. 303 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 3: You know, we typically when people go about practicing something 304 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 3: like that, they're gonna be shooting a bunch at one time. 305 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 3: They're working on form, they're working on their routine, they're 306 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 3: working on maybe they're breathing with all of that. But 307 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 3: it's a very specific way they're going about training that. 308 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 3: But it's not like how you actually experience it, you 309 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like, when you're out there shooting 310 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 3: free throws in. 311 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 4: A game, you're out of breath, you. 312 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 3: Know, like you're literally playing, and then you throw it 313 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 3: and you're gonna be you know, shoot a couple of 314 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 3: free throws and then you're back playing again. 315 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 4: Then you might have another opportunity ten fifteen minutes later. 316 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 3: Like it's kind of a hard thing to relate to 317 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 3: in practice, because in a game, when you're asked to 318 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 3: do it, it's such a different deal. 319 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 4: You know, you're almost like out of breath for a 320 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 4: little bit. 321 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 3: So like you almost have to kind of basically work 322 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 3: around practice saying yeah, we'd liked it in to shoot 323 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 3: one hundred free throws, which isn't realistic because you're not 324 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 3: getting fouled fifty times in a game, and then interjecting 325 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 3: that throughout practice where you're playing. Then you stop, she 326 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 3: freethrows playing, then you stop, she free throws. 327 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 4: So I don't know. 328 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 3: That's always been my thing about what it's like shooting 329 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 3: free throws in a game versus what it's like practicing it, 330 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 3: because you can go through the routine, you can practice 331 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 3: all those things, but then once it actually happens in 332 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 3: a game, it's not really like how you go about 333 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 3: practicing when you're shooting one hundred free throws, then practice 334 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 3: or whatever. 335 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 4: It is, you know what I'm saying. 336 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 3: So I've always said that about a lot of practice 337 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 3: with a lot of sports is if you actually look 338 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 3: at how people go about trying to prepare themselves for 339 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 3: the game, you have to almost break it down to 340 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 3: like some small, little nuances because otherwise like you're not 341 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 3: really making it what it feels like, Like, you know, for 342 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 3: a quarterback, well, let's go on air. It's like, okay, 343 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 3: that's really for the receivers. That's not for the quarterback. Yeah, 344 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 3: you're throwing the football on your hit a moving target. 345 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 3: But when you throw a football and you're throwing in 346 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 3: the windows, you know you're throwing away from the defender. 347 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 4: Of its man to man. That's for the quarterback. 348 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 3: So it's just there's a lot of things where you know, 349 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 3: you can pick any sport and just be like this 350 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 3: is you know, this is more for one side, and 351 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 3: this is it's helpful, but it's probably not as good 352 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 3: as you can make it. 353 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 4: Are very applicable to how it's actually done in the game. 354 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: MJ shot that bitch with his eyes closed and at 355 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: the end of a game, and you know why he 356 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: made it because it's muscle memory. Like muscle memory, like 357 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: you know what it feels like, the weight of the ball, 358 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 1: how your fingers feel on the ball, how it comes 359 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 1: off of your fingers, what your legs feel like, how 360 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: your feet That's why you see so many dudes with 361 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: a routine when they go to as Q mention, that's 362 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: why they have a routine with their breathing, with how 363 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: many times they dribble it or what they do, what 364 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: they're they're followed through hand or whatever it may be. 365 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 1: You do it so many times you don't even think. 366 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 1: You're not even supposed to think about it. 367 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 2: It's like I heard someone say, when's the last time 368 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 2: you thought about tying your shoes? 369 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 4: Now you just do it, doesn't even like your mind. 370 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: Like, and maybe maybe I'm I'm wrong for this, but 371 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: you know, I'm a I'm a builder's grandson. 372 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 2: I'm a carpenter's grandson. 373 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 1: Just imagine if you're if you're up on one of 374 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: them skyscrapers building r No not me, No, not me. 375 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't get that trait, that that one 376 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 1: missed me. But I'm proud of the family members that 377 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 1: it didn't miss But but just imagine if their routine 378 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 1: and their repetitions didn't work out for them and what 379 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 1: it is that is their perfection. 380 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 2: To do turn into the wind Linda's come on, bruh, 381 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. 382 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: So maybe that's why I'm not as you know, like 383 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 1: maybe seemingly flexible on routine as routine and if this 384 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: is your deal to do this, which if you're a 385 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: college player, you're basically a pro even before all this 386 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: nil stuff. If you make it to major Division I 387 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 1: college and you're not preparing like a pro during the 388 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: week and performing like a pro on game days, then 389 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: you ain't gonna make it at that school. Forget about 390 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: going to the pros. You're not gonna make it at 391 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: that school. Same thing in the pros. If you're not 392 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: preparing yourself and doing the things that repetition called for 393 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: for you to be great at as a pro, and 394 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: you're messing that up in a game, you're not gonna 395 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: be there long. So to me, I look at it like, hey, 396 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 1: that's a reprieve because in other industries, if you don't 397 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: perform what it is that you routinely rep out and do. 398 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 4: You die. 399 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: You could die, lose a head, lose an arm, like 400 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: whatever it may be. So to me, I don't buy 401 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: is too much pressure. It's your profession. Figure it out, 402 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 1: especially on little things like that. Like listen, if you're 403 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: going up against Shaquille O'Neil, I get it, you can't 404 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: prepare for that, right, But if it's something where there's 405 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: nothing impeding you like a free throw. Make the god 406 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: darn free throw, my guy, it's a free throw. That's 407 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: the least of your worries. Play defense, all right, that's hard, 408 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, make a three pointer. That's super hard. 409 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 2: I get it. 410 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: You're moving, you are breathing hard. Somebody's in your face. 411 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: Like I saw a whole bunch of seven footers block. 412 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: They're blocking great pointers these days. I saw so many 413 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 1: three pointers get blocked yesterday. 414 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 2: I get that. 415 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: But you're standing in place, no pressure on you from 416 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: from the defense. 417 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 2: You're just shooting a free throw. Make the shot. That's all. 418 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,719 Speaker 2: Make the shot. I thank for professional wrestling. I'll tell 419 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 2: you that. Yere right, professional wrestling fans. The action continues 420 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 2: every week TNA Thursday Night Impact every week. Don't miss 421 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 2: the adrenaline, the drama, and the total NonStop action as 422 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 2: you watch your favorite TNA wrestling stars. 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Brady, Nah, I mean hole song. 458 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 3: I just thought it was a hiatus. You know now 459 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 3: it's not. 460 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 2: Away. 461 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 4: You can only keep the beast out for so long. 462 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 2: Nah, No, beasts. Won't you come? 463 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: He's on the pup list. Nope, Yeah, retired. Sometimes you 464 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: got to move on from the game. Man, chew you up, 465 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: spit you out. 466 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean it is Two pros and 467 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 2: a cup of j Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, 468 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 2: Jonas Knox with you. You can find this show on 469 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app and on hundreds of affiliates all across 470 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 2: the country. If you're listening on the podcast, we appreciate 471 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 2: you doing so. We are going to take you live 472 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 2: until nine am Eastern t I'm six o'clock. Specifically, if 473 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 2: you're listening on the podcast, thank you as we send 474 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 2: you into the weekend talking all sorts of fun stuff 475 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 2: here on this Friday morning. And by the way, uh, 476 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 2: professional wrestling fans, the action continues every week TNA Thursday 477 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 2: Night Impact every week. Don't miss the adrenaline, the drama, 478 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 2: and the total NonStop action as you watch your favorite 479 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 2: TNA wrestling stars. For showtimes and more information, visit TNA 480 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 2: wrestling dot com. All right, so, Bray, let me ask 481 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 2: you this, how do you feel about Kentucky's chances in 482 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 2: this tournament? All right? Arkansas and John Calipari of Advanced 483 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 2: they beat Hawaii, Yeah they did. My son's bracket is destroyed. 484 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 2: And he doesn't he hasn't comprehended the fact that once 485 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 2: you make your picks, they're in. So he had Duke 486 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 2: and Hawaii in the final and he said, he said 487 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 2: to me last night, he goes, Papa, why is Hawaii there? 488 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 2: Like cause you picked them? Like you're not getting points 489 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 2: for any of those So footsteps, that's rude, wrong, that's rude. 490 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 2: I just I'm saying he's following right in your footsteps. Yeah, 491 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 2: he's got a language barrier to Oh god, that's a 492 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 2: good point. Oh my gosh, oh horrible. 493 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 4: What was the question of the Kentucky's chances. 494 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I think if they play up to their capabilities, 495 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 3: they're one of the you know, they're a talented team, 496 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 3: They're capable of making a run. I just it's hard 497 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 3: because I think under Mark Pope the past couple of 498 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 3: years they've struggled to do so, and it feels like 499 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 3: they're winning in more high powered fashions. Defensively, I think 500 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 3: they've kind of struggled under Mark Pope. 501 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 4: So I don't know. I mean, I think they can 502 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 4: make a run. 503 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 3: I don't think today's game is any layup by any means, 504 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 3: So we'll see what kind of team shows up. I mean, look, 505 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 3: I thought Ohio State was playing much better basketball at 506 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 3: the end of the season, and if you look at 507 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 3: how they performed versus TCUAN and we knew it was 508 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 3: gonna be a tight game. But still like they didn't 509 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 3: carry any of that momentum how they finished the you know, 510 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 3: tournament championship, tournament, conference championship and all that, Like they 511 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 3: none of that, none of that translated from that tournament 512 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 3: or even how they finished the season into the tournament. 513 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,239 Speaker 4: So I don't know. 514 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 3: I mean, it's funny you look at some of these 515 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 3: arenas too, and it takes sometimes teams to figure it out, 516 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 3: you know, just the difference in how the backdrop is 517 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 3: with the hoop and everything else in shooting. 518 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 4: Some teams have a cold night, some you know, some 519 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 4: teams are fine. 520 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 2: So so the subject of Kentucky came up, and it 521 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 2: feels a little I don't know, it feels like maybe 522 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 2: the timing's not great for some of this stuff to 523 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 2: be asked. But Yaxel Lundeberg probably butchered that he's a 524 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 2: Michigan forward. He was a highly recruited Michigan forward before 525 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 2: he got to Michigan, a highly recruited player, and he 526 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 2: ends up signing with the Wolverines. And he had a 527 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 2: story in the Associated Press in which he told the 528 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 2: AP on a story that came out Monday, that he 529 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 2: was heavily recruited by Kentucky to go to Lexington and 530 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 2: that they quote started the number with seven million dollars 531 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,479 Speaker 2: to nine million. They were pretty much going off on 532 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 2: the route like we'll pay him anything to get here. 533 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 2: So of course Mark Pope, the head coach of Kentucky, 534 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,719 Speaker 2: was asked about that for some reason yesterday by the 535 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 2: media and it sounded like. 536 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 4: This to BBN. 537 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 8: I would just say, please, don't believe anything you read 538 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 8: about anything, because if I was going to tell you 539 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 8: the percent of stuff that was actually reported accurately, it'd 540 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 8: probably be in the five percent of It's just is 541 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 8: just an interesting time in the world, and that just 542 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 8: is what it is. There's there's a craziness swirling around, 543 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 8: but that's the circus that comes with Kentucky. Like that's 544 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 8: all part of what makes Kentucky so great, what makes 545 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 8: it different than everyone else is that if anybody wants clicks, 546 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 8: they could just say any crazy thing, or write any 547 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 8: crazy thing, or click anything crazy thing about Kentucky and 548 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 8: they're going to get clicks, and they're going to get likes, 549 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 8: and they're going to get controversy. And it's the way 550 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 8: that we elevate ourselves our stature in the media. Unfortunately, 551 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 8: I'm not talking about it is a broad brush I'm 552 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 8: not talking about every media member, but or or social 553 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 8: media member, which is you know, really not a media 554 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 8: member at all. But there's nobody more surprised about what 555 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 8: the head coach of Kentucky has done than the head 556 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 8: coach of Kentucky. I'm shocked by it every single day. 557 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 2: So he didn't deny the reported number that was thrown 558 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 2: out there. But my question is, why is any of 559 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 2: this stuff coming up and why is this And maybe 560 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 2: this is just on the player for speaking to the 561 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 2: AP and throwing out a number, but why does it 562 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 2: matter if the guy ended up going somewhere else what 563 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 2: the number was it was offered from a previous school. 564 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 2: It just feels like it puts everybody in a bad spot, 565 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 2: and it feels like it takes away from the attention 566 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 2: of him trying to get his players ready, who are 567 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 2: there for their game coming up later on today. 568 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd probably be, you know, trying to make a 569 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 3: case against Mark Pope. I mean clearly, you know, being 570 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 3: a former player, he comes in as the you know, 571 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 3: chosen one, and their expectations are to bring him back 572 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 3: to national championship promise. And remember John Cali Perry won 573 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 3: early on in his tenure at Kentucky, which helped kind of, 574 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 3: you know, build up a lot of the momentum behind 575 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 3: him and Obviously they made some deep runs early on, 576 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 3: and then as things wore on, he had a harder time, 577 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 3: you know, with all of that talent, with all the 578 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 3: resources that Kentucky had, being able to maintain it. And 579 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 3: I think Mark Pope's been in a much different position 580 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 3: where they there's been some skeptics from year one to 581 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 3: now where but to his point, a lot of those 582 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 3: people were critical of the Kentucky basketball program. They had 583 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 3: these high expectations, and rightfully so because it is a 584 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 3: blue blood and obviously their history, but it's also not 585 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 3: in the same spot that it was when you know, 586 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 3: John Calli Perry took over and and that's where like 587 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 3: you look at what was the gap between Tubby Smith 588 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 3: and John Cali Perry as far as national championship? 589 00:29:58,600 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 4: Was it even ten years? 590 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 2: Uh? 591 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 4: God tuvy on his and what I'm trying to remember 592 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 4: is that early two thousands. 593 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that sounds about right. 594 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 4: Then what Kentucky won there is in twenty eleven. 595 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, yep. 596 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 3: I mean, if you look at the gap of time 597 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 3: that John caliper again, they're really successful, but it been 598 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 3: had been some time, and obviously, you know, Mark Pope's 599 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 3: trying to pick the pieces back up and figure this out. 600 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 3: I think as a lot of programs are you know, 601 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 3: with how NIL works. But it's not just purely on 602 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 3: Mark Pope. A couple of things that people don't tend 603 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 3: to understand it. Some schools outsource out there in house partnerships, 604 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 3: so jam I Sports is who works with the University 605 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 3: of Kentucky. And then there's a number of you know, 606 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 3: schools that do this and they sometimes they work with 607 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 3: like lear Field or some of the same you know 608 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 3: companies that do all this, and there's a there's a 609 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 3: thought that that's not what's in the best interest of 610 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 3: the school because sometimes these these companies are doing this 611 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 3: for multiple schools, and you know, it's like, depending on 612 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 3: how you view it and how the setup is with 613 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 3: each individual school, you feel like, are we getting as 614 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 3: much attention as we should be for this? So it's always, 615 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 3: you know, tough when you've got you know, a kind 616 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 3: of an arm's length divide between the company that you're 617 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 3: partnering with that should be in lockstep with you with 618 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 3: how you're trying to build this thing out and how 619 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 3: the arrangements work. But sometimes it doesn't always work in 620 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 3: the best interest of the school specifically, when you do 621 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 3: outsource to another company, sometimes it does. 622 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 4: It just depends. 623 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 2: But I was gonna say Patino won in ninety six, 624 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 2: Tubby Smith in ninety eight, and then Calipari won it 625 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 2: in twenty twelve. 626 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 3: Okay, so there's a bit of a gap. So it's 627 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 3: about that. But I guess that's kind of my point 628 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 3: is like this has been a run where you haven't 629 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 3: had that national championship now for about that same amount 630 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 3: of time, and people are getting frustrated because they feel 631 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 3: like there this is a program that puts a lot 632 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 3: of its resources into basketball and they're not seeing the results. 633 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: I think this is a symptom more specifically of where 634 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: we are, the days and the times that we're in. 635 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: I mean, we just saw Trent Richardson do the same 636 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: thing to Nick Saban. I just think that social media 637 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: has created such an instant I guess infusion of information 638 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: directly from direct sources that that's where people are. 639 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 2: You can become. 640 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: A sensation overnight if you hold information such as the 641 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: information we're discussing right now, and people go for the clicks, 642 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: like the coaches right with what are you saying like 643 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: people are going for clicks. Where I will say there's 644 00:32:56,040 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: a little bit of pushback is yes, you handled that 645 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: very well in terms of being very politically sound and 646 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: correct and what it is that you're stating and you're saying, 647 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: because some of what you're saying is true, right, you're saying, 648 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: what is the percentage? You're saying the percentage is somewhere 649 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: in the five percent of truth that's being stated about 650 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: you in the program out there, But you didn't state 651 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: what's the percentage of what truth you're telling and what's 652 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: being put out there and what's being discussed and talked about. 653 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 2: So there's that aspect of it. 654 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: But the money game is very real right now with 655 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: where nil is and those third party sources. From the 656 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: way I get it, they have to guarantee likes. There's 657 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: a certain amount that the university can guarantee to the kid, 658 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:56,239 Speaker 1: but then there's that amount that they can't and that 659 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: has to come from a guarantee from somewhere else. But 660 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: yet and still that money is guaranteed to that that kid. 661 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 2: So you need two people in the mix. 662 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 1: That's seemingly that's what what's gonna have to happen, is 663 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: there's gonna have to start being and this is where 664 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: it gets real interesting. In my estimation, there's going to 665 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 1: have to start being written, written proposals like don't come 666 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: and talk to me, you know, and I deal with 667 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: this right now, don't talk to me about my kids. 668 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 1: Send it to me like I don't. I keep it 669 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: above board, like I don't need you to try to 670 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 1: take me under the table. We don't need to be 671 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 1: in no back room, like I'm not connecting myself to it, 672 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,240 Speaker 1: and I'm not connecting my kids to it. So whatever 673 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 1: it is you're going to do, put it in writing. 674 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,280 Speaker 1: Put it in writing. If you can't put it in writing, 675 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: then then why are we even having the conversation Because 676 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 1: I'm not what what what a parent should be thinking. 677 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: I'm not going to get caught up into any type 678 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: of messy mud slinging, because there's no you don't come 679 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: out of it in a positive way, whether you're the family, 680 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: whether you're the university, you don't come out of it 681 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: in a positive way. When these accusations come out and 682 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 1: they surface and people are saying what they're saying, it's 683 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: all it's all hearsay. So some of what the one 684 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 1: side is saying may be true. Some of what the 685 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,399 Speaker 1: other side is saying may be true. Maybe the entire 686 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: truth exists in the middle of it all, because it's 687 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: again it's all about interpretation. But I think the bottom 688 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 1: line here is that these these things that are being 689 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: put out there, it's still creating a messy environment that 690 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: I mean, we just were talking about the Bachelorette, right people, 691 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:48,359 Speaker 1: wait for what happened? Oh little Shorty, look like she's 692 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 1: the bachelorette, but she's like Chucky the guy at a 693 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: front shoke. Hey, look, but look at the timing of it, right, 694 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 1: They whoever released that video held that video two days, 695 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: Like you're you're putting that out there right before the 696 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 1: launch of the new season. You totally detonated the entire season. 697 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: She Mormon, by the way, that I mean that she 698 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,240 Speaker 1: was on that show Mormon, by you lost? 699 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 2: That might be what it is. It was a curse. 700 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 4: By the way, we don't get to see. Uh, what's 701 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,399 Speaker 4: the kid's name, aj? How do you pronounced his last name? 702 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 4: Heyj the kid for b yu dj aj DJ. 703 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:34,479 Speaker 5: I know. 704 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,320 Speaker 4: It was going to be a top three. 705 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 2: He was just on Pelts talked to him. Yeah, I 706 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 2: here here's my my question whatever happened to just keep 707 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 2: your mouth shut. How about hey, a school offered me this. 708 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 2: I didn't end up going there. I went somewhere somewhere else. 709 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,839 Speaker 2: Why does everybody need to know every d tail of 710 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 2: every negotiation or business that there is, Like, for example, 711 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,399 Speaker 2: I have no idea what you guys make. I don't care. 712 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 2: It's not my business. Who cares what Kentucky offered you? 713 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,320 Speaker 2: What does it matter? Why is any of that getting public? 714 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 2: Why is the associated press asking about it? Why that's 715 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 2: part of the culture. 716 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:25,319 Speaker 1: Why, well that you have to well, it's pro the 717 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 1: pros have started that think about it. 718 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, but pros aren't coming out saying I make this, 719 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:30,839 Speaker 2: I make that. 720 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 1: Well, because it's already published, it's already a it's already 721 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 1: a created habit to want to know what the players 722 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: and what the coaches are making, which as I never 723 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 1: thought it made any sense to put people out there like. 724 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 2: I'm with you, I don't I don't understand why we 725 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 2: know any details of any contract. 726 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: People asking you to help them out and this, that 727 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 1: and the other. They're like, what are they asking you 728 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 1: to help for? Because they know, like, hey man, you 729 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: can spare Like. 730 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 2: Oh you can't give me one hundred dollars like, no, 731 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 2: I shouldn't be able to look up somebody his career earnings. 732 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,439 Speaker 1: But that's that's sports culture. It's sports culture. That's that's 733 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 1: the point of it. It is that is the reality 734 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 1: of it. 735 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 2: Just it's weird, like why why is that? And that 736 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,320 Speaker 2: here's my W two's He could. 737 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 1: Have been saying it just to be able to use 738 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 1: it as a negotiation to negotiating ploy or whoever released it, 739 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 1: like we're negotiating for his next nil deal. You never 740 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 1: really know what the motivation is behind doing this, but 741 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 1: a lot of these kids and the people that are 742 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,400 Speaker 1: representing them try to drive the prices up on on 743 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 1: those kids services. 744 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 2: All right, So let me ask you this, do you 745 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:41,959 Speaker 2: think part of this because obviously Kentucky's a rabid fan 746 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 2: base and and and they're gonna go, you know, as 747 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 2: ravid as they possibly can when it comes to their basketball, 748 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 2: do you think do you think some of this is, 749 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,319 Speaker 2: as Brady pointed out, to maybe turn up the heat 750 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,800 Speaker 2: a little bit to try and uh, you know, hey, 751 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 2: let's let's get things going here or else. Because if 752 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 2: it's if it's just that I'm trying trying to figure 753 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 2: out what the motivation would be to discuss a number 754 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 2: that wasn't agreed upon for a player who ended up 755 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 2: going somewhere else right now, Like, is this right now, 756 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:18,320 Speaker 2: exactly right right before the tournament? Is this just to say, hey, 757 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 2: this guy can't deliver the goods from a recruiting standpoint 758 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 2: like that, That's the part that I look at and go, 759 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 2: I don't understand, and then Mark Pope's gotta then he 760 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 2: was very kind about it, and he handled it as 761 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:30,840 Speaker 2: diplomatically as possible. 762 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,839 Speaker 4: But I just don't think it's not that he can 763 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 4: deliver the goods. 764 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 3: I think there's a thought that they adminimal to identify 765 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 3: the right players are right fit. Like that's been more 766 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 3: of the frustration I think from the Kentucky fan bases. 767 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 3: You know, they had what a top four class I 768 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 3: think in twenty twenty five whatever, it was something in 769 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,960 Speaker 3: that ballpark that's not that far off from where Kentucky 770 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,319 Speaker 3: has been. You know, it's usually historically been you know, 771 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 3: do Kentucky Kansas kind of battling for one of those 772 00:39:55,960 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 3: top those top spots. So it's it's a part that 773 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 3: you know, I think it's like if we're giving you 774 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,800 Speaker 3: this money, you better be able to allocate it towards 775 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 3: the players that are going to help us win a 776 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 3: national championship. Because we look at our direct competition and 777 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,879 Speaker 3: people will not want to say they want they won't 778 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,400 Speaker 3: want to compare things directly to Arkansas and John cal Perry. 779 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 4: But that's who was just there. That's who's within the 780 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 4: same conference. 781 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 3: That's the guy who moved on or who you wanted 782 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 3: and moved on from. And you look at their investment 783 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 3: in a Cuff and he's one of the best players 784 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 3: in college basketball. You know, you can pick and choose 785 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 3: some other players are Kentucky you feel like are talented 786 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 3: star players. I don't know that you walk into the 787 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 3: tournament saying like, hey, who's a player in Kentucky's team 788 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 3: that could carry them to a national championship. You're not 789 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 3: talking about anyone on Kentucky's roster like you are with 790 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 3: a Cuff at Arkansas. So I think that's a bit 791 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,319 Speaker 3: of the frustration is they feel like they've had those 792 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,719 Speaker 3: blue chip players in the past and over the last 793 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 3: two years, doesn't feel like they've got, you know, the 794 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 3: same type of talented players or they're not identifying those 795 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:00,760 Speaker 3: guys with the as they are paying. 796 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 2: By the way, was Albert Breer accurate that Ohio State 797 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 2: and John Calipari almost happened? Was that an accurate story 798 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:14,399 Speaker 2: or was that just sort of No, no, No, I'm 799 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 2: not needling him because he brought it up yesterday. And 800 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,840 Speaker 2: I don't remember ever hearing that John Calipari was in 801 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 2: discussions with Ohio State. 802 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,920 Speaker 3: I don't know that John Calipari would want to go 803 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 3: to a program where they're not going to put basketball first. 804 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,400 Speaker 3: I think that's like one thing that you saw a 805 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 3: Kentucky and and you know Mark Stoops had his moments there, 806 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 3: but we all know that, like Kentucky's a basketball school, 807 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:38,719 Speaker 3: and I think if you go to Ohio State you 808 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 3: were always going to. 809 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 4: Be playing second fiddle. 810 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,719 Speaker 1: That's kind of an interesting thought that. I mean, where 811 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,280 Speaker 1: else has he coached U mass was? Is there anywhere 812 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 1: else where else? 813 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:48,920 Speaker 2: Memphiss? 814 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:54,319 Speaker 1: It's all basketball schools, right, all basketball? That's interesting. I 815 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:55,399 Speaker 1: never thought of it that way. 816 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 2: And didn't he have a dust up with uh Mark's 817 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 2: Oops at Kentucky to where they were talking about basketball 818 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 2: and football schools. 819 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 1: Because because football fans of Kentucky believe that Kentucky is 820 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:16,880 Speaker 1: a football school. Like they they loved their football at Kentucky. 821 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: It's a big deal, big deal. 822 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 823 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 1: So when they had how mummy there, they had that 824 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:27,880 Speaker 1: thing going. They had, uh, the original Brady Quinn. You know, 825 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,319 Speaker 1: they had Tim Couch coming up out of there, yoked up. 826 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 1: Now we're done, you know, Tim Couch. Brady Couch is 827 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:37,320 Speaker 1: more yoked. 828 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 4: He got well, he got he's. 829 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:42,359 Speaker 2: Now you're finished. You know. 830 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 1: Q was now we're done because he was a little 831 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 1: bit more you know, it was a little bit more different, 832 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:54,800 Speaker 1: you know, and and but but he he's like zero 833 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,880 Speaker 1: percent body fat bruh, Like he's. 834 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 2: He's and he's all this. So I aied it. He's 835 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,840 Speaker 2: doing all right. I put in, uh is Tim Couch 836 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:10,279 Speaker 2: more yoked than Brady Quinn uh Ai. Based on their 837 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:14,320 Speaker 2: respective reputations and physical profiles during their careers, Brady Quinn 838 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 2: was considered more yoked or muscularly developed than Tim Couch. Yeah, 839 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 2: Brady's bigger, Brady bigger. 840 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,239 Speaker 3: You should him now because I think he can test 841 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:25,320 Speaker 3: it positive for something. 842 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,840 Speaker 1: Well, I mean he's definitely making sure he gets his 843 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 1: supplements now. 844 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 2: But by the way, I'm not sure I don't know 845 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,840 Speaker 2: how accurate this is, I says Brady. Quinn was frequently 846 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 2: described as having an incredible physique for a quarterback, with 847 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,759 Speaker 2: reports noting he was quote addicted to getting his arms 848 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:46,280 Speaker 2: joked and set a quarterback record at the NFL Combine 849 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 2: with twenty four reps on the bench press. Wasn't it 850 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,919 Speaker 2: more than that? Didn't you do more than twenty four? 851 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 2: All right? So that is that's a lot of my life. 852 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 3: I'm not that day, Tim. This is why you should 853 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 3: never allow ai. Why not, because then it leads to 854 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,160 Speaker 3: on the roads like put in. Let's put in Jonas 855 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,240 Speaker 3: knocks h barbed wire, tattoos. 856 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,520 Speaker 2: All right, let's go to him right now, right, let's 857 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:14,840 Speaker 2: see bart wire. It's a thorn, bitch. It's not Jonas Knocks, 858 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 2: known by his co host as Jony Brackett. 859 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:22,280 Speaker 1: I see now, he's he's he's a he's not reading anything. 860 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,280 Speaker 1: He's just scrolling down while he's talking. I'm just gonna 861 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,239 Speaker 1: call you out on it. He's just scrolling down while 862 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,920 Speaker 1: he's talking. Go ahead, Johnny Brackett's go ahead. What else 863 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,320 Speaker 1: you're making bracketts? 864 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 8: Oh? 865 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:32,799 Speaker 2: Oh? 866 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,279 Speaker 4: Jon Joe Chi? 867 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,759 Speaker 3: Why like we can't even root for you because you're 868 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:39,719 Speaker 3: such a weird. 869 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,800 Speaker 2: When Stan, this is what AI is telling me, I 870 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 2: don't know what. 871 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,840 Speaker 1: You're the one who was actually noun to have such 872 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,719 Speaker 1: a beautiful physique. 873 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 2: Damn. 874 00:44:53,640 --> 00:45:01,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just a hot Jona Scott has to take 875 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:02,040 Speaker 4: it down that road. 876 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,040 Speaker 2: By the way, if you're into video datives, celebrities are 877 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 2: just a good time. I hate them. The Global Gaming 878 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,920 Speaker 2: League is a video game league with celebrity owned teams 879 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,160 Speaker 2: from te Paying to Neo competing, and everything from Call 880 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,239 Speaker 2: of Duty to Tetris. Sign up and join the league 881 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,839 Speaker 2: now at Globalgaming League dot com. All right, it's coming 882 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 2: up next here. We think we know what the plan 883 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 2: is for one franchise in the NFL that will be 884 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 2: yours here on FSR. 885 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,239 Speaker 6: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 886 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,319 Speaker 6: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and 887 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:36,719 Speaker 6: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific 888 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,240 Speaker 6: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 889 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 2: Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Fox Sports Radio, 890 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,200 Speaker 2: LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here coming 891 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 2: up at about fifteen minutes from now, we are going 892 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 2: to tell you about the changing landscape in the world 893 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,440 Speaker 2: of sports that will be yours right here on FSR. 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So this is a bit confusing, all right, 903 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 2: And I'm trying to figure out exactly what's happening here 904 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,440 Speaker 2: with the Raiders and then the fact that they're just bad. 905 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 2: But according to some stuff that came out, NFL owners 906 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 2: are scheduled to vote on the Raiders succession plan for 907 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:37,480 Speaker 2: ownership later this month. According to sources, though Mark Davis, 908 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,560 Speaker 2: the owner, has no intention on selling his majority steak 909 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,240 Speaker 2: if the plan is approved by owners, though Silver Lakes 910 00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:48,400 Speaker 2: co CEO Egon Durban would have the option to purchase 911 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:52,480 Speaker 2: majority stake of the team. Four sources with knowledge of 912 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 2: the situation, according to ESPN, said that owners will also 913 00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,480 Speaker 2: vote on Davis selling roughly seven percent of the team 914 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:03,400 Speaker 2: to Durban and a limited partner Michael Meldman. Whoever that is. 915 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,640 Speaker 2: The sale would put the team's valuation at nearly ten 916 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:12,000 Speaker 2: billion dollars. Two of those sources said, so, considering al 917 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:16,200 Speaker 2: Davis bought a ten percent interest of the Oakland Raiders 918 00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,760 Speaker 2: for a little over eighteen thousand dollars in nineteen sixty six, 919 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 2: not bad, man, Not bad that this is going to 920 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 2: be valued at ten billion dollars. And I think Brady's 921 00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,719 Speaker 2: brought up the point before, what really is the motivation 922 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,080 Speaker 2: for teams to want to really go all in and 923 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,799 Speaker 2: try and compete for Super Bowls every single year when 924 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,120 Speaker 2: you could just be bad like the Raiders, move around 925 00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,080 Speaker 2: all sorts of places multiple times, and then be valued 926 00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,759 Speaker 2: at ten billion dollars just a few years later, kind 927 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:43,080 Speaker 2: of wild. 928 00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:44,759 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean, as far as business goes, you'd 929 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,600 Speaker 3: like to be able to, you know, use some of 930 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,000 Speaker 3: that money, especially when that's your main business. 931 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:50,239 Speaker 4: But I think the. 932 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,040 Speaker 3: Interesting about this is it feels like this is setting 933 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,880 Speaker 3: up for a transfer of ownership, not now. 934 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:59,600 Speaker 4: But in the future. You know. Two Well, not to 935 00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,279 Speaker 4: Tom Brady, let me just put it that way. 936 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,760 Speaker 3: So that's what's surprising about this is I really thought 937 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 3: when and obviously that. 938 00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,520 Speaker 4: Could change too in the future, so we don't know that. 939 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:10,720 Speaker 4: But I really thought when. 940 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 3: Tom Brady first got involved as a minority owner within 941 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:19,360 Speaker 3: their organization, that it was setting up for Mark Davis 942 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,520 Speaker 3: to pass this down to Tom Brady and he would 943 00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 3: take over that majority stake. We've seen other professional athletes 944 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,600 Speaker 3: put together groups do something similar, with Alex Rodriguez, for example, 945 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,799 Speaker 3: as one of those with the Minnesota Timberwolves, and I 946 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,760 Speaker 3: thought that was the direction that they're going clearly between 947 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,040 Speaker 3: you know, Durban and Meldman. 948 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:39,160 Speaker 4: There they're not. 949 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,480 Speaker 3: And I think what complicates things is if you recall 950 00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:46,719 Speaker 3: back when Tom first got involved with the Raiders and 951 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,440 Speaker 3: he started, you know, drawing up this this interest to 952 00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,759 Speaker 3: invest and be a part owner, they gave him what 953 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 3: was deemed to be kind of a sweetheart deal, and 954 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:57,600 Speaker 3: then maybe one of the reasons why I took a 955 00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,840 Speaker 3: while for that to get approved finally, which hurts the 956 00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,440 Speaker 3: overall valuation, because if you're Durbin and Melbourne, You're you're 957 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,160 Speaker 3: saying to them like, all right, we're going to invest 958 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:06,719 Speaker 3: into her. But like, we want the same deal. Tom 959 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,560 Speaker 3: got like, why would we invest for something more than that? 960 00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:14,399 Speaker 3: So the Dolphins just sold a portion of their their 961 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,839 Speaker 3: equity for about basically the evaluation. Twelve point five billion 962 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:19,680 Speaker 3: is what the evaluation or evaluation. 963 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:20,120 Speaker 4: Came out to be. 964 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,200 Speaker 3: I mean its Las Vegas raiders. Are they not just 965 00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,840 Speaker 3: as valuable? I mean, don't you think they should be 966 00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:28,560 Speaker 3: about a twelve billion? I mean, I know we're talking 967 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,439 Speaker 3: about billions here, no one cares, but I'm just saying, 968 00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 3: if you look at the stadium, everything else, and obviously 969 00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:37,839 Speaker 3: there's there's more specifics to why maybe Miami's worth more 970 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,840 Speaker 3: than Las Vegas, but I would think they'd be pretty comparable. 971 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,200 Speaker 1: I mean, you put it out there the other day 972 00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:48,000 Speaker 1: in terms of what you just said, the assets that 973 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,960 Speaker 1: accompany that that valuation, because I didn't. I didn't look 974 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,320 Speaker 1: at it that way in terms of whether it's a 975 00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:59,200 Speaker 1: privately owned you know, whether the real estate aspect of 976 00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,480 Speaker 1: the value, which I mean when you're getting into the billions, 977 00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:07,400 Speaker 1: you know, obviously I don't. I'm not sure how you 978 00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:11,239 Speaker 1: you evaluate you know, the property values and all those 979 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,600 Speaker 1: things and how that goes into it. But I mean, 980 00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:19,080 Speaker 1: you'd have to assume that maybe does you know, do 981 00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,640 Speaker 1: the Raiders own the Death Star, Like, do they own 982 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:27,239 Speaker 1: that property? Or is that yeah? Or is that or 983 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:28,880 Speaker 1: is that done through Vegas? 984 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 2: You know? 985 00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:33,239 Speaker 1: Is that done through the taxpayers dollars and stuff like that. 986 00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,040 Speaker 1: So if it's privately owned, I get it. If it's 987 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:40,000 Speaker 1: valued higher, but again I look at this, I think 988 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,360 Speaker 1: the bigger story here is what you touched on earlier, 989 00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:47,760 Speaker 1: is that Okay, you're not. It doesn't give the feeling 990 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:52,760 Speaker 1: that you're going in Tom Brady's direction. And I wonder 991 00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:57,879 Speaker 1: at the timing of hearing about this, this selling off 992 00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:03,040 Speaker 1: of some of the franchise, two different you know, a 993 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:07,560 Speaker 1: different different group. You know, how aware of one another? 994 00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,320 Speaker 1: Are these two groups you just brought in tom Brady 995 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,640 Speaker 1: and his group, How aware of that group of this 996 00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:17,040 Speaker 1: group that's coming in right now? What's the relationship between them? 997 00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,239 Speaker 1: How much do politics start to play a part in 998 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,120 Speaker 1: how this team is ran? There could be a differing 999 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,560 Speaker 1: in philosophies of how you want to run it. Maybe 1000 00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:29,080 Speaker 1: they want to be silent partners, maybe they don't. Maybe 1001 00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,279 Speaker 1: that has to be agreed upon. Maybe I don't know 1002 00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:32,920 Speaker 1: if that gets released in the public. 1003 00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:34,239 Speaker 2: But what it. 1004 00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:38,120 Speaker 1: Says to me is, if you're not looking at tom Brady, 1005 00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,120 Speaker 1: and if tom Brady didn't bring in this investment group, 1006 00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,640 Speaker 1: it's it's free and clear of him. It's just a 1007 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:47,920 Speaker 1: different group that's that's getting ownership and ownership stake in this, 1008 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:51,880 Speaker 1: this this franchise. Then now what it signifies to me 1009 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,520 Speaker 1: is does this now lead to a hostile takeover? 1010 00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,959 Speaker 2: Who who's who's racing for it? 1011 00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,279 Speaker 1: Is there going to be propaganda put out there like 1012 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,160 Speaker 1: who's going to start like I need to create some 1013 00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,960 Speaker 1: mess here so that it could create an opportunity for 1014 00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,279 Speaker 1: us over here. You know, it just seems like if 1015 00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 1: they're not all in, if tom Brady wasn't a part 1016 00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,640 Speaker 1: of bringing this group to the table, and it was 1017 00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:19,360 Speaker 1: brought in independently of him, I feel like you're setting 1018 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:25,080 Speaker 1: this thing up to be fought for and and you know, 1019 00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:28,440 Speaker 1: it's not like they're good. Their product on the field 1020 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,920 Speaker 1: is good. But if the back end of it continues 1021 00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,640 Speaker 1: to suffer more than what it already is, that that 1022 00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,239 Speaker 1: leads to them not being good Right now? I mean, 1023 00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,799 Speaker 1: where does that go? Like we said in succession, where 1024 00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:41,359 Speaker 1: does that go? 1025 00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:45,319 Speaker 2: I think the Panthers sold if I'm not mistaken. I 1026 00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,040 Speaker 2: think it was two billion back when they sold, and 1027 00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,960 Speaker 2: I don't recall David Tepper got it for two billion. 1028 00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,799 Speaker 2: So just to see that organization and that franchise go 1029 00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,080 Speaker 2: for that amount and then you've got the Raiders at 1030 00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,800 Speaker 2: ten valued at ten, Skins on it for sex. 1031 00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:06,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're talking about we're almost commander reached double commanders. Well, 1032 00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,320 Speaker 1: when they were sold, they were to Ridskins. O gosh, 1033 00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,719 Speaker 1: when he sold the team, they were still known as 1034 00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:13,520 Speaker 1: the ritsk. 1035 00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:14,960 Speaker 2: I listen, I don't want to get cancer. 1036 00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,560 Speaker 1: You can't be revisionist on things, bro, like it is 1037 00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:18,080 Speaker 1: what it is. 1038 00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,879 Speaker 2: But to see that it's jumped that much, and that's 1039 00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:22,319 Speaker 2: that's the point. 1040 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,520 Speaker 1: It's kind of crazy, from six to ten to ten 1041 00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,120 Speaker 1: to twelve, Like that's it's a. 1042 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:32,080 Speaker 2: Lot, man. Where the Cowboys at They got to be 1043 00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:37,480 Speaker 2: the highs, right them? Or or the patriotsots? Really? I 1044 00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,480 Speaker 2: think so aren't the Patriots up there? I don't know 1045 00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,520 Speaker 2: most I mean most valuable. I would assume the Cowboys. 1046 00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:47,040 Speaker 2: But it's just kind of a it's kind of wild 1047 00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:51,319 Speaker 2: how fast things have grown just in value. And I look, 1048 00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:57,360 Speaker 2: I don't have I can't comprehend the billion lifestyle. But 1049 00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,680 Speaker 2: at what point the Cowboys are number one at thirteen, 1050 00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,520 Speaker 2: at what at what point? At what point would you 1051 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,840 Speaker 2: guys say, all right, that's enough. Would it be one billion, 1052 00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,280 Speaker 2: two billion, three billion, four billion? 1053 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:11,719 Speaker 3: I don't know what that's in context to. Here's what 1054 00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:13,480 Speaker 3: I think is like, the most interesting about all this 1055 00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,040 Speaker 3: is part of the reason why these valuations have jumped 1056 00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:19,080 Speaker 3: up so high, is the media rights deals that accompany this. 1057 00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:23,400 Speaker 3: Now you're getting sponsorships through gambling that are that are 1058 00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,719 Speaker 3: starting to be there, but not not your traditional markets, right, 1059 00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,400 Speaker 3: it's it's poly market, it's klshie, these predictive markets. 1060 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:31,200 Speaker 4: Like they just did a deal. 1061 00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,799 Speaker 3: Who they just signed and maybe it was the Major 1062 00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,200 Speaker 3: League Baseball I believe this was for twohundred million. 1063 00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:38,080 Speaker 8: And. 1064 00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,680 Speaker 3: You know, you look at that number, you go, it's 1065 00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:44,480 Speaker 3: gonna be interesting to see what the NFL gets done. 1066 00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,000 Speaker 4: And just a couple that even more. 1067 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:51,200 Speaker 3: Again, not to bring golf into it, but the Brian 1068 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:54,360 Speaker 3: Rolap who's now running PGA Tour, he talked about this 1069 00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,719 Speaker 3: and kind of said, look, the media rights market's about 1070 00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:02,120 Speaker 3: a thirty billion dollar you know a year market. He's like, 1071 00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,360 Speaker 3: so that pie is going to be divvied up. However, 1072 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,880 Speaker 3: it's divvied up. But that's about right now what the 1073 00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:11,000 Speaker 3: market is market sizes, and he said, so when the 1074 00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,200 Speaker 3: next media rights deal is done by the NFL, we'll 1075 00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,600 Speaker 3: see what's left over. I believe that they take up 1076 00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,880 Speaker 3: about twelve billion of that now. So if the NFL, 1077 00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,480 Speaker 3: which has a goal of getting to twenty four billion 1078 00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,400 Speaker 3: a year, and the lion's share of that's going to 1079 00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,200 Speaker 3: be coming from media rights, which it seems to be 1080 00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,279 Speaker 3: doing that maybe just going from linear to digital, meaning 1081 00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:34,200 Speaker 3: you know, your streaming services one day paying the majority 1082 00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,959 Speaker 3: of that bill instead of the Fox, CBS, NBC. But 1083 00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,439 Speaker 3: the point is how much is going to be left 1084 00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,360 Speaker 3: over for other sports? And then how much more really 1085 00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:46,160 Speaker 3: can this league grow? Like when you talk about these 1086 00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,759 Speaker 3: evaluations and all this money, like, that's what's going to 1087 00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:50,680 Speaker 3: be interesting to me is I think we're slowly creeping 1088 00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:54,840 Speaker 3: more and more towards a point where maybe a plateau 1089 00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,440 Speaker 3: is a little bit or slows down because it just 1090 00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:02,279 Speaker 3: it feels like it's hard to believe how expensive and 1091 00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,759 Speaker 3: how much everything is nowadays and how valued it is. 1092 00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,120 Speaker 3: Because the other portion is how many people are going 1093 00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,120 Speaker 3: to be able to actually own a majority stake in 1094 00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,520 Speaker 3: some of these teams, that evaluation's gonna tie. 1095 00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,680 Speaker 1: That's a to me when I was listening to you, 1096 00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:16,480 Speaker 1: that was the first that No, that was the first 1097 00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,239 Speaker 1: thing I thought about, is Tom Brady can't get the 1098 00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,960 Speaker 1: majority because he doesn't have I mean, with his group 1099 00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:26,120 Speaker 1: or with him total total ACA. No, it ain't about 1100 00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:29,880 Speaker 1: being broke. That's just that's a lot of train smoke. 1101 00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:32,600 Speaker 1: That's a lot of train smoke right there. 1102 00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,759 Speaker 2: But Tom Brady and his wealth and they're like, get 1103 00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:40,120 Speaker 2: out of here with your chump change. Well it ain't 1104 00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:40,920 Speaker 2: chump change. 1105 00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:44,439 Speaker 1: It just ain't that change that Jim Joint ain't ain't 1106 00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:50,360 Speaker 1: that type of change twelve billion, ten billion, Yeah, it 1107 00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,880 Speaker 1: ain't that. And that's probably the biggest issue going on 1108 00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:57,120 Speaker 1: here is that Tom Brady can't probably can't get the 1109 00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,239 Speaker 1: amount of money that could lead to him getting the 1110 00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:02,400 Speaker 1: majority ownership of it, because then he would have to 1111 00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,080 Speaker 1: still be a minority with the majority that he's going 1112 00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:05,640 Speaker 1: in on it with. 1113 00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,680 Speaker 2: By the way, big flag football tournament coming up this weekend, 1114 00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:10,920 Speaker 2: that's probably why he's diversifying. 1115 00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, we got some sound from that. I'm not sure 1116 00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,080 Speaker 3: if we can cut it up, but we got some sound. 1117 00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:19,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's fire that often we can. Well, we 1118 00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,240 Speaker 2: have it next segment, do you think. 1119 00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:22,640 Speaker 4: No, probably top of next hour. 1120 00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:24,960 Speaker 2: Right, Well, it is two pros and a cup of 1121 00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,880 Speaker 2: Joe here on Fox Sports Radio. It's LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, 1122 00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,520 Speaker 2: Jonas Knox with you. Coming up next though, a first 1123 00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:33,800 Speaker 2: time in a long time, in fact, a first time 1124 00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,480 Speaker 2: ever for somebody in the world of sports. We'll have 1125 00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:38,680 Speaker 2: that for you right here on FSR.