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Speaker 2: you find gentlemen, Penn State and Action here in a

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Speaker 2: matter of hours.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I would like to start off on

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Speaker 1: a positive foot, but I just can't listen.

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Speaker 3: I loved the Pop Tarts Bowl in Kansas State.

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Speaker 2: Winning that thing go on, okay, but it was supposed

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Speaker 2: to feature the first ever edible mascot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they pulled the okie doke on us. Huh.

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Speaker 2: They think we're six, You know, we're grown up's over here.

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Speaker 1: I know an edible mascot. What I see it?

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Speaker 2: That was not an edible mascot. He goes down to

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Speaker 2: the toaster. They pull the switcheroo with something that is edible.

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Speaker 2: False advertising. Although I absolutely love that whole presentation.

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Speaker 4: Everything about the bowl season now has become more and

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Speaker 4: more likable because what I'm starting to realize is these

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Speaker 4: bowl committees around the country are like.

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Speaker 1: Uh oh, it's the battle of the backups? What do

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 4: And so instead of allowing the football to just be

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Speaker 4: just speak for itself, I suppose right, they realize they

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Speaker 4: have to make this a little bit more entertaining.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: What it reminds me of a little bit, is the

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Speaker 4: Pro Bowl in the NFL bad product, something that they

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Speaker 4: knew that people might still be interested in betting on,

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Speaker 4: and maybe that's a reason to get to the television,

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Speaker 4: but overall bad product in terms of the football.

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Speaker 1: So what do they do? Well, they just they just

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Speaker 1: make it about the other things other than the football.

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Speaker 4: So the the in game, you know, interviews, and the

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Speaker 4: skills contest and the flag football. It just becomes an

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Speaker 4: event instead of a football game. Now, boleseason isn't that

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Speaker 4: watered down, you know, because these guys actually are playing,

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Speaker 4: and we'll get into this throughout the show. But I

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Speaker 4: do think there is a really important aspect of bolseason.

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Speaker 4: But I kind of like all these ancillary things that

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Speaker 4: this week and they started a new tradition in San

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Speaker 4: Diego for the Holiday Bowl. They're now dumping eggnog on

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Speaker 4: the winning coach, a la the Duke's Mayo.

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Speaker 1: Bowl, where you take a mayo bath.

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Speaker 4: So all these bowl games are trying to get a

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Speaker 4: don't know, hook to keep you to keep you on

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Speaker 4: on page. But overall ballseason has been a little bit

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Speaker 7: Yeah, the pop darts not the hero that we need.

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Speaker 7: But no, what is it? What's the line from Batman?

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Speaker 7: Not the hero Gotham deserves.

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Speaker 1: It's not the hero we wanted, but it's the hero

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Speaker 7: Yeah, something like that.

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Speaker 8: I forget the quote. I'm sure social media roast me forward.

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Speaker 8: about just the overall optics of bull season and kind

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Speaker 8: Darts Bowl was freaking awesome, Like that was that was

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Speaker 8: a spectacle of modern sports television meeting like the current

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Speaker 8: state of where the Bulls are because Rich nailed it.

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Speaker 8: The football is not keeping people hooked anymore. The gambling is.

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Speaker 8: And you know, people will cry, oh it's rigg and

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Speaker 8: It's just the weird world that we live in. But

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Speaker 8: It kind of is a sideshow. You're not going to

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Speaker 7: That's the games you're watching if.

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Speaker 8: You want to have fun, Like if you want to

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Speaker 8: college football world is evolving and there's going to be change,

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Speaker 8: early buls should be. They should be kind of you know,

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Speaker 8: circus feel to them, because that's how you get people involved.

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Speaker 7: Like it's just it's just the way that I think

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Speaker 7: this current landscape is.

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Speaker 8: And I have all more Pop Tarts bowl Give me

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Speaker 8: two Pop Darts Bowls next year, one on each coast.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it's interesting because it makes sense just

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Speaker 2: is the product, meaning the game, yeah, isn't strong enough.

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Speaker 2: It's a little bit like the NBA All Star Game.

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Speaker 2: I love your comparison Rich with the Pro Bowl. I

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Speaker 2: where it's like, Okay, the product isn't strong enough, so hey,

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Speaker 2: The lesser Bowl games they're a lot like a lesser

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Speaker 2: if you put enough bells and whistles on that thing,

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Speaker 2: It's more desirable. So yeah, these ball games they have

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Speaker 1: They have to have a.

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Speaker 2: Random pop tart descending into a top. Yeahs edible, that's

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Speaker 7: To picture the face afterwards, it was all like led, Oh.

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Speaker 1: No, great job, it did an awesome job.

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Speaker 2: How about There were some good games though, too, where

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Speaker 2: if you look at well, listen, it was a good

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Speaker 2: outcome for Missouri. This was not a sexy game. Missouri

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Speaker 2: won fourteen to three, but no opt outs. Ohio State

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Speaker 2: Under Ryan Day, Notre Dame blasts Oregon State forty to eight.

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Speaker 2: You also had a really exciting game between Clemson and Kentucky.

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Speaker 2: Six lead changes in the Gator Bowl, Clemson gets it done. So, look,

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Speaker 2: it's been wacky. It's been weird. There's been a ton

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Speaker 2: have been some fun just football and wacky pop tart

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Speaker 2: you know, Mayo eggnog moments along the way too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know, I'm seeing, at least in some

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Speaker 4: to continue. And I didn't expect it because when we

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Speaker 4: I was thinking, well, once we get into the mix here,

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Speaker 4: we're all going to be disappointed with the product. I

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Speaker 4: And here's the reason why.

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Speaker 1: And I realized it at halftime of the Holiday Bowl.

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Speaker 4: So I'm broadcasting this game and Miller Moss had a

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Speaker 4: monster first half. He's the backup quarterback to Caleb Williams

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Speaker 4: for the USC Trojans, and I was thinking to myself,

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Speaker 4: my goodness, this guy's playing himself into a starting role

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Speaker 4: and maybe they have a couple of transfer portal quarterbacks

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Speaker 4: that they're targeting. There's still many available, but maybe they

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Speaker 4: against a very sound Louleville team that he can play football.

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Speaker 4: I mean, six touchdown passes over three hundred and fifty yards,

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Speaker 1: He had a ballgame, and Lincoln Riley, you know, he

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Speaker 4: It kind of felt like, after losing five of his

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Speaker 4: really used a win on his way into the offseason

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Speaker 4: this year, and especially doing it the way they did.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't a particularly close game in the end. They

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Speaker 4: but Lolville put up enough of a fight to show

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Speaker 4: and the defense probably played better.

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Speaker 1: And more clutch than it had all season long.

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Speaker 4: So you know, you can you can start to squint

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Speaker 4: some of these players and these coaches still because there's

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Speaker 4: still a lot to prove with with college football's postseason now,

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Speaker 4: because it's it's not it's not all about you know, hey,

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Speaker 4: actually want to win, want to play, are earning jobs

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Unfortunately for the average fan that that that nuance is

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Speaker 8: lost on them.

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Speaker 7: But I agree with you one hundred percent.

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Speaker 8: For us as the college football analyst, the die hard fans,

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Speaker 8: you want to know who the second, third string, fourth

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Speaker 8: know what that projects to next year. I'll give you

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Speaker 8: another reason why I and it hasn't been a profitable

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Speaker 8: ballseason for me.

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Speaker 7: This is actually been the first bowl season in.

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Speaker 8: Like three years that I am not going to Probably

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Speaker 8: it could change, I guess over the last week or so.

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Speaker 2: That's the attitude right right exactly.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 8: We've got a big bet coming up coming up on

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Speaker 8: Monday on this collegeable playoff that could swing.

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Speaker 7: That could swing.

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Speaker 1: Oh maybe we'll see. We'll see about that.

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Speaker 8: Maybe uh uh, we'll swing the profit margin on the

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Speaker 8: other side. But I think a big thing for me

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Speaker 8: in bolseason two and this is something that I have

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Speaker 8: used that I still use to kind of gauge, and

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Speaker 8: I used it last night. It is helpful for me

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Speaker 8: to see the depth of the rosters and then to

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Speaker 8: compare conferences. For example, I agree with your point Rich

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Speaker 8: about Louisville being up for that game and playing hard

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Speaker 8: like that was a big game for them, and USC

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Speaker 8: backups made them kind of look like mincemeat.

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Speaker 7: It downgrades the ACC dramatically for me.

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Speaker 8: On the flip side of that, Ohio State last night,

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Speaker 8: their second string quarterback Devin Brown gets hurt on the

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Speaker 8: first I think first quarter, first drive, they bring in

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Speaker 2: Really interesting matchup here. Cowboys favored by five and a half.

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Speaker 2: Total is fifty two. We know how the Cowboys are

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Speaker 2: How about the Lions shout out to them first division

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Speaker 1: In the back pocket.

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Speaker 2: My question is this, if you look at the Lions,

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Speaker 1: Are they still hungry?

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Speaker 2: Some people are, They're even hungrier once they taste that success.

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Speaker 1: Some you get the emotional letdown.

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Speaker 2: So I want to see with the Lions clinching the

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Speaker 3: I think that the Cowboys are hungrier.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't mean it's going to swing in their favor,

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Speaker 2: but I want to see how the Lions after getting

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Speaker 1: It's the meal we've longed for.

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Speaker 2: Are they kind of like sitting there patting their stomach

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Speaker 1: I want to see how that unfolds.

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Speaker 8: I love doing this in baseball. Baseball is my favorite

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Speaker 8: and being absolutely locked in.

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Speaker 7: I don't know.

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Speaker 8: I think I can make an argument that Detroit might

441
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Speaker 8: be a little bit more motivated in this game. And

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Speaker 8: I know that sounds crazy with Dallas coming off two losses,

443
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 8: but the Lions have this way of getting up for

444
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,400
Speaker 8: games and it's because of their head coach. So if

445
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Speaker 8: you were going to say, I'm going to make a

446
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 8: bet on Dallas this week because they're motivated, that's fair.

447
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Speaker 8: But if you're going to fade the Lions this week

448
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Speaker 8: because they're not motivated, I think that might be the

449
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 8: mistake that you make.

450
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Speaker 1: Now I hear you on that.

451
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Speaker 2: I think that, look, man, losing is the ultimate motivation,

452
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Speaker 2: and when like you just said, the Cowboys have experienced

453
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Speaker 2: that here as of late. They this is a get

454
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 2: they want to get right. I'm not saying the Lions

455
00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 2: are a get right opponent, but they want to get

456
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,679
Speaker 2: right themselves and get one in the win column. And

457
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,880
Speaker 2: I also think you want to be playing your best

458
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 2: football heading into the postseason. You don't want to be

459
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 2: on a losing streak heading in where I haven't go

460
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 2: back to Kyle Shanahan. He said this a year or

461
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 2: two ago the forty nine ers head coach, where he

462
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 2: was asked about, you know, like throttling down and resting

463
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 2: his guys, and he's like, I think that's the biggest

464
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,680
Speaker 2: mistake you can make. I just have not had that philosophy.

465
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Speaker 2: I want to play our guys, And so you could

466
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Speaker 2: look at it from that standpoint too.

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Speaker 1: However you slice that.

468
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Speaker 2: I think the Cowboys are highly motivated, but it's not

469
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Speaker 2: to say that the Lions aren't right. Like, I think

470
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Speaker 2: that's a good point by you. Jared, come it up next.

471
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Speaker 2: You always hear state of the Union. Yeah, oh, oh gosh,

472
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 2: how about state of the sport?

473
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Speaker 1: Huh?

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Speaker 2: That's send any tingles down the spine at all. We'll

475
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 2: get into that momentarily here. But sending good tingles up

476
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Speaker 2: and down the spine. That would be Isaac Low and

477
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Speaker 2: Crown with the latest What's going on?

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Speaker 11: I love and we're saving the real Tingley for last.

479
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 11: Trust me as a preview of coming attractions here we

480
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Speaker 11: start with college football and the Cotton Bowl on Friday night.

481
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Speaker 11: It's a ninth rank Missouri defeat number seven Ohio State

482
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 11: fourteen to three. Missouri held the Buckeyes to two hundred

483
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,679
Speaker 11: and three yards of total offense and two out of

484
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 11: fifteen on third downs. In the NFL on Friday, Denver

485
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 11: Broncos quarterback Russell Wilson went on the record with the

486
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Speaker 11: claim that after their victory over the Chiefs in Week eight,

487
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 11: the Broncos threatened to bench Wilson for the rest of

488
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Speaker 11: the season if he did not adjust the thirty seven

489
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Speaker 11: million dollar injury guarantee in his contract.

490
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Speaker 12: They came up to me during the bye week and

491
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,679
Speaker 12: began the bye week on Monday or Tuesday, and they

492
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Speaker 12: told me that if I didn't change my contract my

493
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Speaker 12: injury guarantee, that i'd be, uh, you know what, I'd

494
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Speaker 12: be beent for the rest of the year. And therefore

495
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Speaker 12: I don't know if to be in nine games left the show.

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Speaker 1: I was definitely disappointed about it in the NBA.

497
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Speaker 11: On Friday night, Tyrese Maxi scored forty two points in

498
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Speaker 11: the sixers one thirty one to one twenty seven win

499
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Speaker 11: at Houston. Shake Gilgus Alexander scored forty as Oklahoma City

500
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Speaker 11: won at Denver one nineteen to ninety three, breaking Denver

501
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Speaker 11: six game winning streak. At the Boston Celtics edged the

502
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Speaker 11: Toronto Raptors one twenty to one, eighteen to improved to sixteen,

503
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Speaker 11: and oh at home finally fellas. In tennis today, at

504
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Speaker 11: the Brisbane Open in Australia, a first round match between

505
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Speaker 11: former US Open champion Dominic Team and Australia's James McCabe

506
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Speaker 11: was interrupted when a poisonous Eastern brown snake, considered by

507
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Speaker 11: experts to be the second deadliest snake in the world,

508
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Speaker 11: slithered onto the court. The match was temporarily suspended and

509
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Speaker 11: tournament officials called on a professional snake catcher named Lucas Perett,

510
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 11: who spoke with nine News in Queensland.

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Speaker 6: I was literally driving to my other job, like put

512
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Speaker 6: a top down, so he'd gone under the top. He

513
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 6: called himself up under there's obviously trying to keep himself safe,

514
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Speaker 6: just chilling out, trying to get away from the big

515
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Speaker 6: creat I think Marlafe is a massive tennis fan. We

516
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Speaker 6: actually have tickets for next Saturday and Sunday. And when

517
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Speaker 6: our texted Ago, I'm going to pick up a snipe

518
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 6: from the prison International, she went, no way, get me

519
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Speaker 6: an autograph.

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Speaker 11: No word yet on whether his wife wanted an autograph

521
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Speaker 11: from a player or the snake back to you.

522
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530
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 1: How about state of the sport?

531
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Speaker 2: If you look at college football, where are we Jared

532
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 2: brought this up, and I think it's a great topic.

533
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 2: Where with bowl games, transfers, opt outs, what are we

534
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 2: looking at here?

535
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: You know?

536
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I was thinking of it this way.

537
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 2: I think we look at bowl games similar to how

538
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 2: we look at baseball and what used to be when

539
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 2: you think about ratings, all Star game ratings used to

540
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 2: be huge, right, It was just a different time.

541
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 3: It was just a different era.

542
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 2: And it's hard to look at where it currently is

543
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 2: without thinking about how much greater it was. You know,

544
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 2: you could look at horse racing or boxing like that,

545
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 2: but ball games are similar.

546
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 3: Ball games used to be freaking amazing.

547
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 2: It was go all out, it was compete, it was

548
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 2: all about team. Now it's more about individuals and money.

549
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 2: That's why you see realignment. That's why you see so

550
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 2: many opt outs. And I get it, but I don't

551
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 2: have to love it. But I think that's where we

552
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 2: are where Missouri last night, the storyline becomes, WHOA, there's

553
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 2: a top ten team with no opt.

554
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 3: Outs in a non playoff game.

555
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 2: This is this is almost radical, This is unheard of

556
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 2: these days, but that's where we're at. It's a ripple

557
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 2: effect and it's not close to what it once was.

558
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: But if you're a.

559
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Speaker 2: College football fan, I think you become handicapped if you're

560
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 2: just thinking about how much better it was instead of

561
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 2: enjoying what you do have. It's not what it once was.

562
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,919
Speaker 2: It'd be like a meal. If you're used to you know,

563
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 2: a great, great stake every night, and you downgrade to

564
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 2: something that isn't as great, but it's still good. You know,

565
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 2: do you just look at how times were better or

566
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 2: do you look at how times are still all right? Like,

567
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 2: it depends on your perspective as far as that goes.

568
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 4: Right now, college football is a train car window. If

569
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 4: you don't like what you see, close your eyes and

570
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 4: open them. Uh, maybe just two stops later, you're going

571
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 4: to be in a completely different looking landscape. And I

572
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 4: think it's going to be consistently changing. Anybody who's been

573
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 4: on a long train ride, whether it's the Pacific Coaster

574
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 4: on the West coast here or Amtrak on the East coast,

575
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 4: you know what I'm talking about. Uh, you see so

576
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 4: much when you're on a train. It's not like a

577
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 4: plane where clouds obscure your vision. Like sometimes you're driving

578
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 4: through suburban areas, sometimes you're driving through forests, sometimes you're

579
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 4: driving through cities. It just constantly changes, and you think

580
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 4: to yourself, like, wow, this is kind of cool, Like

581
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 4: you get to see a little bit of Americana.

582
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: Well that's what college football is.

583
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 4: If you don't like it, close your eyes, because this

584
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 4: is all gonna.

585
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 1: Get scrambled again here pretty soon.

586
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 4: I don't know what's gonna happen with NIL, but I

587
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 4: can guarantee there's gonna be some guardrails put on this

588
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 4: pretty soon here, because we're only hearing about the positives

589
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 4: of NIL for these players. Pretty soon here, we're gonna

590
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 4: see the exposs on how these players are being taken

591
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 4: advantage of that's coming, that's coming down the pike, that's

592
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 4: coming down the track to stay with the train analogy here,

593
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 4: and it's coming real soon some of these collectives. What

594
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 4: we believe that these collectives that have sprouted up over

595
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 4: the past two years are doing everything on the up

596
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 4: and up from a tax standpoint. We think these collectives

597
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 4: are doing everything appropriately from you know, not interfering with

598
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 4: athletic programs and being completely church and state in terms

599
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 4: of NCAA regulations.

600
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Speaker 1: Are we are we serious, Like there are going.

601
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Speaker 4: To be some major earth rattling stories that are gonna

602
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 4: come out, and some of them are gonna be sad

603
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 4: because some of them are gonna be you know, grown

604
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 4: ups sharks taking advantage of kids like eighteen year olds

605
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 4: and seventeen year olds at times, you know, coming to

606
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 4: college with bright eyes and bushy tails and looking forward

607
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 4: to their future and being taken advantage of in terms

608
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 4: of the transfer portal rules. You know, eventually those rules

609
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 4: will change too, because coaches are belly aching out loud

610
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 4: as often as they possibly can about this, because not

611
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 4: only are they recruiting out of high school, they're also

612
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 4: recruiting to refill their team every single season because they

613
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 4: can't trust that their roster is going to look anything

614
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 4: like it does the next season. And so again, if

615
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 4: you're on this train ride and we all are close

616
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 4: your eyes, wait a couple of stops, reopen them. You're

617
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 4: going to be in a completely different landscape here very soon.

618
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a professional landscape. That's actually the first line

619
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 8: of the notes that I wrote up for this segment.

620
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 8: Professional landscape is forming, and it's not the good kind

621
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 8: that you you know, you know, you go to the

622
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 8: nice big house and you see like the crazy hedges

623
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 8: in like the different formations. Like it's a weird landscape

624
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 8: that's starting to form. I think the calendar needs to

625
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 8: be adjusted, and I think that's the low hanging fruit

626
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 8: of how to fix some of the coach I mean,

627
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 8: even the coaches are opting out of these games, Like,

628
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 8: we just need to fix the calendar so at least

629
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,959
Speaker 8: we can try to keep this structure intact for as

630
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 8: long as possible. It is changing, and there is going

631
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 8: to be a lot of regulation in legal mumbo jumbo

632
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 8: that gets thrown around over the next few years as

633
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 8: this continues to evolve. But the low hanging fruit is

634
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 8: figure out a way to fix the calendar, keep these

635
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 8: coaches in for the games, keep these players in for

636
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 8: the games, Incentivize the players to play in the bowl

637
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 8: games somehow, some way, and I think it'll help short

638
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 8: term band aid fix long term.

639
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 7: Man, I have no idea where this is going. Like

640
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 7: we are passengers on this train.

641
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 8: This is the analogy we've used now for a few weeks,

642
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 8: Like this is a train that is a high speed

643
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 8: bullet train that is evolving and moving and changing every

644
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 8: single week every single year. Just wait till next year

645
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 8: when the Collegeoball Playoff expands and the ball season completely

646
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 8: gets turned on its head once again. We go from

647
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 8: three college football playoff games to six sixteen I don't

648
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 8: know how many exact games, but exponentially more. And when

649
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 8: you talk about professional landscape, this is not just impacting

650
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 8: the top notch players.

651
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: Like when we.

652
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 7: Watch these college football games, we view these kids like gods,

653
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 7: like Kayleb Williams got.

654
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 8: Like there's still kids and they're getting advice from their parents,

655
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 8: and they're getting advice from their uncle Jimmy across the street,

656
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 8: and they're getting advice from their buddy who maybe played

657
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 8: football for a year, and it knows this guy and knows.

658
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 7: That it's bad advice.

659
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 8: A lot of the times, they're leaving schools in very

660
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 8: weird ways and they go into the transferport and they

661
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 8: see what's out there, and because they left the one

662
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 8: school in a really awkward way, they can't go back.

663
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 8: If the transferporter doesn't work out, it is a mess.

664
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 8: And now you're seeing the mid level players. For example,

665
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 8: the group of five opt outs this year has been insane,

666
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 8: and you're seeing kids that are like three star kids

667
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 8: that are being you know, brought along by group of

668
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 8: five coaching staffs for two or three years and they're

669
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 8: thinking of themselves. Wait a minute, if I leave now

670
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 8: and go to Georgia or Florida State or wherever, and

671
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 8: I get my nil money, now I am a three

672
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 8: star kid playing at you know, South Dakota State, Like,

673
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 8: I'm not going to make it to the NFL. My

674
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 8: best chance for a payday in college football or to

675
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 8: play football is right now. So you get these kids

676
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 8: bolting from good programs in good situations just for that

677
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 8: slice of that money, that football money, and it's creating

678
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 8: this really ugly landscape in college football. And I don't

679
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 8: know how we fix it, but right now.

680
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 7: Is it's tough. It's tough to navigate every day.

681
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 2: Well, I'll say two things super fast. I don't think

682
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 2: you can incentivize him. That's my first takeaway is, like

683
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison Junior last night, what incentive can you dangle

684
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 2: in front of him where he's gonna play where it

685
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 2: makes more sense than jeopardizing any type of NFL payday

686
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 2: with his draft stock plummeting.

687
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,479
Speaker 1: If he gets tough, it's hard.

688
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 2: Like Caleb Williams, even Notre Dames quarterback Sam Hartman, He's

689
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 2: not gonna be one of the top guys at all,

690
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 2: but he.

691
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:34,760
Speaker 1: Set out the bowl game.

692
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 2: Is it still in his best interest to be incentivized

693
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 2: quote unquote go out there and play with the risks

694
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 2: that come along with it just for a Sun Bowl appearance.

695
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Probably not.

696
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 3: I don't know there's much that you can do as

697
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 3: far as incentives go.

698
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 2: The other thing i'd point out super fast is we

699
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 2: do this in the NFL all the time. We overstate something.

700
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 2: You hear od it's two hand touched. Now because you

701
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 2: have more rules, you can't fall on top of the quarterback,

702
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: and there are dozens of things like that, and it's like, bro,

703
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 2: watch the games. These are high impact car crashes. It

704
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 2: is still an incredibly physical game, but because you can't

705
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 2: get away with as much as you could back in

706
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 2: the day, you can't declete someone in blindside block of it.

707
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 1: Right. The takeaway is like, oh, it's too an touched.

708
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: No it isn't. No, it's not.

709
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 2: It's just you're overreacting to the changes that have taken place.

710
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 2: I think with college bowl games it's very similar where

711
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 2: you get this no one cares. Look at Dabo Sweeney yesterday,

712
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 2: He's won two national championships and he's reacting like he

713
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 2: just won a third because they beat an unranked Kentucky

714
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:42,959
Speaker 2: team in the Gator Bowl.

715
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

716
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 2: And that's a compliment, that's intensity, that's caring.

717
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: It's still there.

718
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,720
Speaker 2: You just have to sift through the debris to find

719
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 2: it because you have all these opt outs and it

720
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 2: seems like no one cares, when in fact there are

721
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 2: a lot of people that still do care. We'll revisit this.

722
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 2: We got a run right now. Rich Hornberger with US

723
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 2: Penn State All American. Jared Smith FSR, betting analyst, I'm Brian, No,

724
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 2: we got to get to the parlay platter up next.

725
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 2: I'm here in rumors might be a bit of a

726
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739
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 2: Okay, we've got Jared's with his lab coat on.

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00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: You know, he's got the goggles on.

741
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,600
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Speaker 1: Here, what do you have for us, Jared?

745
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Speaker 7: We're having some fun today, guys. Again, it has not

746
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Speaker 7: been a good year for us with these parlays.

747
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: Full disclosure.

748
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 7: I think I've won one or two the whole season,

749
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 7: and they weren't all the long shot variety.

750
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 8: But again, this is part of the show, and I

751
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 8: do one every week. I bet at least one parlay

752
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 8: every week because I love them, and I think you

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Speaker 8: can try try to hit a big score if we

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00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 7: Right. So let's put a few underdogs in the in

756
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 7: the mixiere.

757
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 8: Let's you know, spin it all up and see if

758
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 8: we can't find something fun. And it's NFL college football,

759
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 8: it's all money line. So we'll be cross forting here.

760
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 8: Saints at Bucks. So this is a divisional matchup, second

761
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 8: of two between these two NFC South teams. The Bucks

762
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 8: went into New Orleans back in week four and one,

763
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 8: and I think the Saints kind of returned the favor.

764
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,240
Speaker 7: I know everyone's hot to trot on the Bucks right now.

765
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 8: But I don't know something about this line, something about

766
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 8: this number starting to come off the key of three

767
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 8: now down to two and a half, but telling me

768
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 8: that maybe New Orleans is the right side here, and

769
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 8: maybe we've kind of seen Pete Buck.

770
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 7: So I'll take the Saints on the money line. How

771
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 7: about this Bengals Chiefs line?

772
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 8: And again, I know Cincinnati is coming off a really

773
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 8: tough loss.

774
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 7: And they haven't looked good with Browning.

775
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 8: Maybe over the man it looked okay with him, and

776
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 8: now he's kind of tailed off. But I don't trust

777
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 8: Kansas City right now, especially now his big favorite. I mean,

778
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 8: come on, they look like they are broken. So I

779
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 8: love what Jamar Chase was saying this week, really starting

780
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 8: to stir the pot. I hope he comes back and plays.

781
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 8: If he does, obviously the Bengals have a better chance

782
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 8: to win. But I'll put the Bengals in the money

783
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 8: line going into Arrowhead and beating the Chiefs on Sunday. Finally,

784
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,760
Speaker 8: if this thing is still alive, this sucker's still rolling

785
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 8: into Monday.

786
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 7: We'll put Iowa our.

787
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,919
Speaker 8: Pals, the Iowa Hawk guys playing Tennessee and the Citrus Bowl.

788
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 7: Kirk Farrence does really well in bowl games, guys.

789
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 8: Last four bowl games include a win over Kentucky as

790
00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 8: a short favorite, outright upsets over USC and Mississippi State.

791
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 7: Some about bowl games, Iowa just gets up.

792
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 8: So put Iowa Cincinnati Bengals, New Orleans Saints all in

793
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 8: a money line parlay.

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00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 7: It is twenty one to one, wow, and that number

795
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 7: currently available at that MG.

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Speaker 4: You are back's back. I like it because I think

797
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 4: all these are coin flips to me. I know they're

798
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 4: all done, yeah, but it does feel like a bunch

799
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 4: of coin flip games.

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Speaker 7: Bengals is a tough one.

801
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 8: I think that'll be hard, but that yeah, if it

802
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 8: ain't easy, it's not twenty one.

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00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 1: I like that first pictureed. I like the Saints. Yeah,

804
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: I like that one, all right? Coming up next?

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00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 2: Do you trust this guy to get it done when

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00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 2: he probably will have to? Oh, let's get down to

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Speaker 7: To make sure to get that in though.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so JJ McCarthy, Michigan quarterback, if the game comes

817
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:29,439
Speaker 2: down to his play, do you think Michigan can get

818
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 2: it done? Slash will get it done? Sure they can,

819
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 2: but will they? Now here's the thing. If you look

820
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 2: at JJ McCarthy hasn't exactly been lighting it up the

821
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 2: second half of the season. Final five games, he threw

822
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 2: one touchdown pass. Some people say he's not as decisive,

823
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 2: a little bit out of sync. Some people think he

824
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,760
Speaker 2: was injured down the stretch, which might be the case,

825
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 2: but never a good sign. Guys, when the play is

826
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 2: so iffy that the takeaway is.

827
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: Maybe he's hurt. I don't know, maybe he's banged out

828
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: right now.

829
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 2: But I think if Michigan can't run the ball effectively,

830
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 2: they are freaking done. And that's the question you have

831
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 2: to ask yourself. If the game is on JJ McCarthy's shoulders.

832
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 2: Am I betting Michigan And my answer is no? What

833
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 2: is your answer?

834
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: Absolutely not.

835
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 4: If the game comes down to JJ McCarthy, Absolutely, no

836
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 4: way Michigan wins. And the reason is because of the

837
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 4: quality and the caliber of defense he's playing against. The

838
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 4: problem for Alabama is creating negative plays Michigan. This is

839
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 4: the biggest stat heading into this game is they are

840
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 4: heads and shoulders. The Wolverines are in this sport getting

841
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 4: positive plays. They have the fewest zero or negative yards outside.

842
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: The service academies. That's outrageous.

843
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,760
Speaker 4: That means that every time Blake Korm carries the football,

844
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 4: he's falling forward at least for a half yard game.

845
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 4: When you don't get knocked off track, and when you're

846
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 4: not playing behind the chains and you're not playing catch

847
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 4: up on third down, you know, you're in these manageable

848
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 4: situations or third and short every single time you're going

849
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 4: for a conversion or on fourth dound for that matter.

850
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 4: It makes football a lot easier. We call it, you know,

851
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 4: we call it staying ahead of the chains. Offensively. When

852
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 4: I was playing center or guard, you know, when you're

853
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 4: communicating with the rest of your teammates on the sideline

854
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 4: after a successful drive and then all of a sudden,

855
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 4: your offensive line coach comes over and he's talking to

856
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 4: He's like, hey, great job you know, especially on that one. Look,

857
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:41,879
Speaker 4: Hey we didn't we didn't practice that, and you guys

858
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 4: did a good job picking that up. And the reason

859
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 4: why that's all so important important is because a sack

860
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 4: or a negative playing the run game, it sets you

861
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 4: into that hole where all of a sudden, you're bailing

862
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 4: yourself out with a second and fourteen or all of

863
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 4: a sudden it's third and twelve and you got to

864
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,240
Speaker 4: make a play now, like somebody's got to get open,

865
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 4: and somebody's got to beat man defense. You gotta pick

866
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 4: up the blitz, you gotta throw hot and then you know,

867
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 4: the running back or the tight end has to make

868
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 4: one miss.

869
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy is in that, dude.

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00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,919
Speaker 4: So if you can get Michigan into a situation where

871
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 4: they really haven't been all season long, where they're bailing

872
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 4: themselves out on third down, you have a great chance

873
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 4: at success.

874
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: If you're Alabama.

875
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 8: I think the month off help Michigan a lot. Everything

876
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 8: I'm seeing from practice, JJ.

877
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 7: Was not healthy the last month.

878
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: This season.

879
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 8: I mean they won a game at Penn State where

880
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 8: he didn't throw pass in the second half or something

881
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 8: crazy stat whatever that stat was.

882
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: He was not healthy.

883
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 8: They didn't ask him to do much down the stretch

884
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 8: and he was not healthy at all. Neither was Roman Wilson,

885
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,240
Speaker 8: who's really the only receiver they have that can stretch

886
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,280
Speaker 8: the field and create some problems for this Alabama defense.

887
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 8: So getting the month off I think helped Michigan's offense

888
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 8: a lot more than it helped Alabama's defense. I hear

889
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 8: all of your points about JJ McCarthy. I agree that

890
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 8: he's not Alabama's got the quarterback edge in this game.

891
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 8: They've got the more explosive quarterback. He's a little more

892
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 8: I would say volatile, which could lead to a mistake.

893
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 8: And the one thing I will say about Michigan is

894
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 8: they've been in this game before and Alabama hasn't. I know,

895
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 8: maybe there's a few player holdovers, perhaps from the two

896
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 8: years ago, but it's a lot two years ago in

897
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 8: college football is like eight So I think the Alabama players,

898
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 8: Jylen Milroe especially, they've never experienced this before and we'll

899
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 8: see how they handle it. Whereas last year Michigan didn't

900
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,479
Speaker 8: handle it that well. What have they learned from that.

901
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 7: Loss against TCU Last year?

902
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:42,760
Speaker 8: In the game against TCU, we saw Michigan buck the trend.

903
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 8: They went up tempo, they went play action, They were

904
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 8: very aggressive early in that game. Does Sharon Moore, of

905
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 8: the offensive coordinated for Michigan repeat that here, because I

906
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 8: do think in the in the trenches, I think Michigan's

907
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 8: offensive line hasn't has an edge here. And I know

908
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 8: Ziner's hurt, but I still think Alabama Amma's defensive line

909
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 8: outside the top ninety this year in defensive line yards allowed.

910
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 8: That is a very predictive metric with how well you

911
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 8: can stop the run. Alabama has had issues stopping the run.

912
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,399
Speaker 8: You saw what Auburn's dual threat quarterback did to them.

913
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 8: All that was Peyton Thorn. And I know JJ McCarthy's

914
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 8: not Joe Montana, but I do think he is a

915
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 8: talented kid that can make the right decision.

916
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 7: So if he's healthy and he.

917
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 8: Can move and the mobility is a little bit higher,

918
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 8: I could see Michigan having some success moving the ball

919
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 8: in this game. I really think the big edgra Michion

920
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 8: guys on the other side, I think Michigan's defensive.

921
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 7: Line has an edge on Alabama's offensive line.

922
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 8: This is an offensive line that gave up some of

923
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 8: the worst sack numbers in the history of the SEC

924
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 8: this year. And Jalen Milroe, he has this tendency to

925
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 8: hold onto the ball for too long because he's trying

926
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 8: to make the big play. And I think that's where

927
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 8: Michigan needs to have. They need to force a turnover

928
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 8: in this game. They need to make a big play defensively.

929
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 8: TCU did that last year. I think it was JJ

930
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 8: McCarty picked six like the first quarter and that is

931
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 8: what kilted that game. If Michigan can create one of

932
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 8: those plays, I think they're in this game.

933
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 7: I think they win this game. But I don't know

934
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 7: they can do that.

935
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 8: Like, to me, that's the coin flip nature of the

936
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 8: turnover battle sometimes.

937
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 2: Well I hear you, and it's it's so important for

938
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 2: Michigan to force takeaways right to get the ball. And

939
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 2: it's not like Jalen Milroe is super careful, you know

940
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 2: what I mean. Like he'll put the ball in harm's

941
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 2: way and he'll take some deep shots and hey, maybe

942
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 2: you win a one on one battle maybe you get

943
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 2: a tipped ball and that leads to an interception, But

944
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 2: I agree that's gonna be a big deal.

945
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: I think styles make fights.

946
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 5: You know.

947
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 2: One of the things I think of is if you

948
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 2: look at the last time we saw these teams play,

949
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 2: Alabama took down Georgia.

950
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you.

951
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 2: Think Michigan would have done the same Michigan. They didn't

952
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 2: look dominant against Iowa, you know what I mean, Like

953
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 2: they had their struggles against Iowa. And that's not what

954
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 2: I would base the whole handicap on. But that's just

955
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 2: something I think of when we're looking at these two

956
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 2: oponents facing each other in Alabama and Michigan. The other

957
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 2: thing is this man gambling comes down to you gotta

958
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 2: see it before it happens. And if you look at Michigan,

959
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,320
Speaker 2: they haven't fared well in these spots and it could

960
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,240
Speaker 2: leads you to this, Hey, you gotta see it before

961
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 2: it happens. You gotta have faith before they actually get

962
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:21,720
Speaker 2: to the next level.

963
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: But I just don't see it in this spot.

964
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 2: This is one of these spots where they always wet

965
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 2: themselves against better opponents on the bigger stage. And I'm

966
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 2: not saying they're destined to do that again, and they

967
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 2: have no chance to do anything but that. But I

968
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 2: am telling you I'm not betting on it to reverse

969
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 2: course here, you know what I'm saying, Like, I'll take

970
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 2: the l if this doesn't turn out to be right,

971
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 2: But I just do not trust their history and this

972
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,479
Speaker 2: team where I still think they're gonna have to rely

973
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 2: heavily on JJ McCarthy and against a very good secondary,

974
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,879
Speaker 2: I just don't buy it. So I don't say risk

975
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 2: your entire bankroll on this'd be smart money management is

976
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 2: a big deal, but I'll I'll just shrug my shoulders

977
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 2: and take the yell if Bama isn't victorious. This is

978
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 2: the best coaching job we've seen from Nick Saban and

979
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 2: to turn it around from where they were to where

980
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,760
Speaker 2: they are right now. I think a lot of times

981
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 2: we get caught up in these storylines and you put

982
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 2: a harp and a violin in the background and oh

983
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 2: McCarthy said they'd be back and lah, and it's like, yeah,

984
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 2: that guy has to go up against that secondary, and

985
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 2: I'm betting against him.

986
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 4: You know I Yeah, I agree with what you're saying

987
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 4: about betting when you're when you're placing a wager, especially

988
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 4: if it's a sizable one, you better be able to

989
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 4: see the game play out in your head the way

990
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 4: that wager, whatever side you're choosing, right or you know,

991
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 4: if you're picking a total over or under, you know,

992
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 4: you really should be able to see the game being

993
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 4: completed the way your bet is landing, you know. And

994
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:59,720
Speaker 4: if if you're unsure, I mean, don't don't risk anything.

995
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 4: You're an it's not worth you know, you're not capable

996
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 4: or okay with comfortable with I guess is the word

997
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 4: I'm searching for.

998
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: Losing.

999
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 4: So in this case, I side with you, Brian. I

1000
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 4: really feel strongly that look at the Rams this year

1001
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:20,240
Speaker 4: as a comp to Alabama. Now, I know the Rams

1002
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,879
Speaker 4: in the NFL don't have nearly the same record, but

1003
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 4: the Rams had to get really creative finding new ways

1004
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 4: to win this season and forcing their way into the

1005
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 4: playoff picture. Sean McVay, arguably, even though he's been to

1006
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 4: two Super Bowls and won one, I think did his

1007
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 4: best coaching job this year. Now, in college football, it's

1008
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 4: very different to make the playoff. You got to be

1009
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 4: one of the top four teams and you got to

1010
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 4: do something special at some point during your regular season

1011
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 4: or the one game postseason in the championship game. And

1012
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 4: they accomplished that task, but they did it with a

1013
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 4: patchwork crew at first. They found stability in a backup

1014
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 4: quarterback early in the season. This was isn't easy, but

1015
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 4: it was effective. And the one thing that I think

1016
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 4: Michigan has had maybe an easier ride than Alabama. And

1017
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 4: I'm not saying the Big Ten is easier. Their schedule

1018
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 4: bears out where they had an easier schedule, but I

1019
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 4: am saying this Michigan. It feels like because of the

1020
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 4: way they like to play football, they're less challenged by

1021
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 4: other teams because they shorten the game so much. You know,

1022
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 4: it really does feel like the trials and tribulations that's

1023
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 4: led the Crimson tied to this moment have been so

1024
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 4: much harder fought than for Michigan. Now, I know that

1025
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 4: John Harbaugh has been put through the ringer, but do

1026
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 4: the players really.

1027
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: Feel that emotionally?

1028
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 4: No, I mean, because the truth is there's a level

1029
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 4: of separation between the coaching staff and the player level.

1030
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:54,720
Speaker 4: I mean, the players weren't suspended, and frankly, the players

1031
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 4: still had access to John Harbaugh for six days of

1032
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 4: the week, even during that end of the season in

1033
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 4: suspension for three games, So what really changed for them

1034
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 4: not having them on the sideline during the games? Do

1035
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 4: you know how much interaction I had with my head

1036
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 4: coaches on the sideline during games, Dancer is not much because.

1037
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: They're busy guys.

1038
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 4: So I think that was a little bit overblown in

1039
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 4: terms of what it meant to the team this season.

1040
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 4: So I really I look at Alabama as being the

1041
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 4: more tested, sturdier combatant heading into this semi final.

1042
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think the strongest case against Michigan is the schedule.

1043
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 8: They faced one top forty offense all season. They haven't

1044
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 8: faced a true dual threat quarterback. There's zero doubt in

1045
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 8: my mind that there's a lot of really smart people

1046
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 8: that like Alabama in this game, and their biggest rallying

1047
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:49,399
Speaker 8: cry is Michigan hasn't played anybody this year. And you

1048
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 8: go watch Ohio State last night and you see the

1049
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 8: weapons that they had, and that was the one offense

1050
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 8: that was able to move it a little bit consistently

1051
00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:58,240
Speaker 8: on Michigan.

1052
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 7: But that was really the the only offense they faced

1053
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 7: all year.

1054
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 8: I mean literally, you go back and look at their offenses,

1055
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 8: like UNLV might be the best offense they face besides

1056
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 8: Ohio State this year, Like it's crazy.

1057
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 7: But that's just the way.

1058
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 8: Like you can't fault Michigan for that, And I think

1059
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 8: the month off Like to me, I think the biggest,

1060
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 8: the toughest thing to handicap in games like this is

1061
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 8: how the month off changes the team's dynamics. And if

1062
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 8: you're smart, And I'm not a head coach, I'm not

1063
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 8: an offensive coordinator, even though in my mind I am

1064
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 8: every week every day, Like I would be so against

1065
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 8: tendency in this game. If I was Michigan and everybody

1066
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 8: thinks it's just JJ McCarthy and Blake Korum and Donovan

1067
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 8: Edwards running it in a cloud of dust, I would

1068
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:50,879
Speaker 8: be the exact opposite. I would spend the fifteen ball

1069
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 8: practices on trying to be up tempo, no huddle, air raids,

1070
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 8: spread it out, the exact opposite of what we do.

1071
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 8: I'm not saying your whole offense is going to be that,

1072
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 8: because you can't change everything. Tiger can't change his stripes

1073
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:07,760
Speaker 8: in two weeks, but the first fifteen plays, the first quarter,

1074
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 8: you can install some wrinkles to make your offense look different.

1075
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 8: Pass to set up the run instead of run to

1076
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 8: set up the pass.

1077
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 7: We'll talk about that a lot with Washington in Texas.

1078
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 8: But I just think, Sharon Moore, this is where you

1079
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 8: just have to plug your nose and do the exact

1080
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 8: opposite of what you've been taught, which is, we've got

1081
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,959
Speaker 8: Donovan Edwards and Blake Corman, a great offensive line, let's

1082
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 8: just slam the ball right down Alabama's throat. Yeah, they're

1083
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 8: expecting that they've got a secondary that they don't need

1084
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 8: to rush.

1085
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 7: You know, they can.

1086
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 8: Drop four with mckistry and Arnold downs and more. I mean,

1087
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 8: they got studs in the secondary. Make them try to

1088
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 8: diagnose what's happening. So I don't know what that wrinkle

1089
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 8: is gonna be. I think it's gonna be up tempo.

1090
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 8: If if you had to put Peggott in my in

1091
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 8: my estimation, the first quarter from Michigan is going to

1092
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:56,839
Speaker 8: be up tempo, and it's going to look a lot

1093
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 8: different than what you saw the twelve games prior.

1094
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 2: Or they could do what Iowa did in the Big

1095
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 2: Ten Championship game and say, hey, we're not changing our formula.

1096
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 1: This is what we do and I brought it out.

1097
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 8: You know, everyone was so banged up in that game, Like,

1098
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 8: I can't glean anything from the Iowa game. Guys like

1099
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 8: that was like, let's just get through this game and

1100
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 8: then let's get a month off.

1101
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 2: I do think it's funny you guys, as Penn State grads,

1102
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,320
Speaker 2: you have to love all the talk of Michigan hasn't

1103
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 2: played anybody this year.

1104
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: I'm a realist, guys. Got to make you feel awesome there.

1105
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 8: Real Well, offensively, we kind of sucked this year what

1106
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 8: it had defense and a terrible offense.

1107
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, it was like watching pain tryout. Yeah,

1108
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 4: it was painful at times. But they changed out the

1109
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 4: offensive coordinator. We'll see if that has any impact on

1110
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 4: the bowl game. Here we're getting ready for against oh Miss.

1111
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 4: And by the way, we haven't even gotten to that

1112
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 4: game yet.

1113
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 7: There's about trauma.

1114
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 1: Oh how about the social media drama.

1115
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 8: Serena Isaac do an update on the Lane kiffinsaga and

1116
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 8: social games.

1117
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 2: Yes, we'll definitely get to that. By the way, one

1118
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 2: little last nugget here. Yeah, yeah, you think about the

1119
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 2: sign stealing stuff. Rich you brought this up. Think about

1120
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 2: the game last year against TCU, and TCU that's obviously

1121
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 2: not a Big ten opponent, and they had no answer

1122
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:17,760
Speaker 2: for TCU's offense. So I know we're looking at JJ

1123
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 2: McCarthy against that Alabama defense.

1124
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 3: That to me is the most interesting matchup.

1125
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 2: But when Alabama has the ball and Michigan is not

1126
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 2: stealing science the same way, right, how do they fare defensively?

1127
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:31,839
Speaker 1: That's something to keep it a fun game.

1128
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 8: So the public loves Bama like like the and Michigan

1129
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 8: is kind of like this contrarian side, and you know,

1130
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 8: I love them, but it's gonna be a fun game.

1131
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 7: It's gonna be a fun game.

1132
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: It's a great match up. It really is about that

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1165
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 2: Good morning to you. Happy New Year. Just a couple

1166
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 2: of days early, right, I want to know which game

1167
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 2: you've got circled in the next couple of days, right,

1168
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 2: College football today, NFL today, tomorrow, Monday. What's the game

1169
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 2: that you've got circled a couple of times, for whichever

1170
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 2: reason you're running with.

1171
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 5: I got a game circled here starting two hours an

1172
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 5: hour and a half in Amhurst, Massachusetts. Yes, you're not

1173
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 5: playing nineteen and a half against Enna and College Hoops

1174
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 5: tailor two different teams.

1175
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 8: You.

1176
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 5: Maas's been one of the most overachieving teams in the preseason,

1177
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:08,919
Speaker 5: Dana one of the worst. They've fallen almost one hundred

1178
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 5: ken pops spots, ten pump spots since the preseason. They

1179
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 5: don't make threes, they don't hit free throws. They're gonna

1180
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 5: have a hard time covering ninety a half at U Maass.

1181
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 8: If you want the hard hitting UMass Siena analysis, this

1182
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:24,440
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1183
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 7: I absolutely love it. Shames again the betting. From a

1184
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 7: betting perspective.

1185
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 8: These games usually offer the most upside because, let's be honest,

1186
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 8: when we're betting on Ohio State Missouri, it's which third, four, fifth, six.

1187
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 8: I think even the third string flutist might needed to

1188
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 8: be replaced last night on the Buckeye's betch.

1189
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 7: All right, let's get.

1190
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 8: Into these cultural playoff games because from what I've seen

1191
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 8: so far in the market, it is tough for you

1192
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 8: guys to find anyone who wants to bet Michigan. Do

1193
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 8: you think that's going to change before Monday? Or is Alabama?

1194
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 8: And I've heard some really short people on Alabama too,

1195
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 8: But for the most part, Alibabama has been the public

1196
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 8: side so far that everybody wants to wager on Monday.

1197
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's still one way traffic on Alabama, especially on

1198
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 5: the money line, more so than the spread. Today. We've

1199
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 5: written a few couple five figure wagers on Michigan money line,

1200
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 5: a little buy back there. We're a little lower than

1201
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 5: the market on Michigan. We're not really, not really bothered

1202
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 5: taking big Michigan bets right now with all the live

1203
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 5: billy we have them on this game and then for

1204
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 5: the National Championship. But the spread is actually much more

1205
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 5: balanced on the one and a half line just kind

1206
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 5: of bounced around two and one. I know Caesars was

1207
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 5: saying they throw out a pick for a few hours yesterday,

1208
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 5: but we're still sitting at the one and a half

1209
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 5: and yeah, seeing the action is definitely coming in more

1210
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 5: two way on the spread, but money line definitely lotchside

1211
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 5: on Bama.

1212
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.

1213
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 4: And in terms of that, do you think the Detroit

1214
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:00,080
Speaker 4: Lions playing a big one this weekend has anything to

1215
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 4: do with that? Because your Michigan betters might be a

1216
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 4: little distracted with the afterglow of the North title. The

1217
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 4: lines just got that they have a huge one against

1218
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 4: Dallas in the NFC this weekend, So maybe you'll.

1219
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 1: See a little bit more of a flow.

1220
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 4: On Michigan heading into Sunday, heading into Monday, the morning

1221
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 4: of I think it's.

1222
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 5: The Lions win today, you might see a surge of

1223
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 5: sub Michigan money line that best rolling over as far as

1224
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 5: that game goes today, I think the best result right now,

1225
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 5: looking is Detroit covering that game but losing. Still a

1226
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 5: lot of money coming in on the lines money line,

1227
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 5: but you know, slightly more ropsided on the Cowboys on

1228
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 5: the spread.

1229
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 2: How about the other playoff game, Shamus Texas and Washington.

1230
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 2: What's the money looking like on that game?

1231
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 5: It's an interesting one. It's I mean, this is nowhere

1232
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 5: near the handle of text of Albama Michigan right now.

1233
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 5: I think we'll see more money for this as the

1234
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 5: weekend progresses. But it's a lot more Washington money than

1235
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 5: I thought we were going to take. I put it

1236
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 5: to see a lot of you know, maybe some front

1237
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 5: running Texas money, but you know, it's slightly more money

1238
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 5: on Washington plus four. There were some sharp action on

1239
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 5: four and a half which fus down from the plus

1240
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 5: four and a half to the fourth, and then the

1241
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 5: money line definitely lopsided on Washington. So right now, I

1242
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 5: think Texas winning and covering is looking like what we're

1243
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 5: going to be rooting for. But again, anything can happen

1244
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 5: between now and Mondays.

1245
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 1: Wow.

1246
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 8: Yeah, And I'll be honest, I haven't really like analyzed

1247
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 8: the Texas Washington game from like that spread handle perspective,

1248
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 8: because I just I wasn't sure where the public would

1249
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 8: be on that game, Like I knew Alabama was going

1250
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 8: to be the play from the public side in the

1251
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 8: first game, but.

1252
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 7: I could see it. I could see there being a

1253
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 7: late push on either side.

1254
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 8: Here, let's get into today's games, and I'll be honest,

1255
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 8: like it's not the most appetizing Saturday before New Year's slate.

1256
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 8: Like usually this day has just a bunch of great games.

1257
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 8: But other than this, maybe Peach Bowl right out of

1258
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 8: the gate, I don't know if there's a lot of

1259
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 8: like must watch situations. Is there anything you see in

1260
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 8: the market that's maybe giving us a reason to watch Georgia.

1261
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 7: Florida State later or Auburn Maryland in.

1262
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 8: The Music City Bowl and some of these other lower

1263
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 8: tier bowl games that are taking place today.

1264
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's tough.

1265
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 5: I mean, there's so many opt outs to the Florida

1266
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 5: State george game that makes the game pretty unappetizing. Auburn

1267
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 5: Maryland give Talia's out from Maryland, and even the Toledo

1268
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 5: quarterback then opted out the late game tonight and he

1269
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 5: is a very fun guy to watch. But really, it

1270
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 5: is just this ole miss Penn State game, and there's

1271
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 5: a lot of money coming in on it right now.

1272
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 5: Right now we're mainly seeing Ole miss money on the

1273
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 5: money line. There was a kind of a weird market

1274
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 5: move towards Penn State. Literally, I just saw that, which

1275
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 5: I thought was pretty interesting because Penn State dropped their

1276
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 5: injury report and there's a lot of big names on

1277
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 5: that list for Penn State, and you just saw the

1278
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 5: line move towards them. So I think it's definitely something

1279
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 5: keep your eye out on before kickoff.

1280
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 1: That is fascinating.

1281
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 4: Hey, overall, this is a very unique Bowl season for

1282
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 4: a lot of the reasons you just mentioned about today's

1283
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 4: slated games, but that's been commonplace across all these Bowl games.

1284
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 4: Speak to the volatility for the books. Is it harder

1285
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 4: to handicap? Are you guys seeing outcomes that are surprising

1286
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 4: to you? Is this a place where you know the

1287
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 4: casuals may have an advantage over the books because you know,

1288
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 4: maybe maybe you're living in the city where the game

1289
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 4: is being played, or you track one of these teams

1290
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 4: all season long, and you have a better idea of

1291
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 4: the depth of the roster and you can place a

1292
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 4: wager that makes more sense leading into these Bowl matchups.

1293
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 5: It's hard for us to handicap, and it's hard for

1294
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 5: better to handicap too, because there's so much uncertainty in

1295
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 5: these games. There's way more variance that goes into these games,

1296
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 5: which in my opinion helps us out more on that side,

1297
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 5: because you see a lot of these big money line

1298
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 5: underdogs come in and cash, and you know the short

1299
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 5: sick favorite that's in everyone's parlays, it blows up, and yeah,

1300
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 5: it's it's really hard both sides of the counter. The

1301
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 5: best we can do is just analyze which money is

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Speaker 5: the sharpest and telling us where it's gonna close either way.

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Speaker 2: This might be the evilest question I've ever asked you.

1304
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Speaker 2: Just thinking about this, I'm thinking New Year's resolutions. Right,

1305
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 2: if you were to give betters in general, Oh, I

1306
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 2: like this a piece of advice, maybe a New Year's

1307
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 2: resolution to follow in twenty twenty four that actually might

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Speaker 2: work against bet.

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Speaker 1: MGM Right, how people is this? Huh?

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Speaker 3: What would you say as far as that goes?

1311
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Speaker 1: Shamus?

1312
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Speaker 5: My boss ever heard me say no parlays in twenty

1313
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:49,479
Speaker 5: twenty four? I think I might lose my job act.

1314
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Speaker 7: We just gave one out on the show like thirty minutes.

1315
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Speaker 5: No, no parlays over two legs?

1316
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 1: All right, fair enough?

1317
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Speaker 7: Three legs?

1318
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Speaker 5: Yeah, have you really got an edgy you can?

1319
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's beautiful, shamous.

1320
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:06,919
Speaker 1: Well, hey man, happy New Year.

1321
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Speaker 2: You crushed it in twenty twenty three, I helped twenty

1322
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Speaker 2: twenty four is awesome for you, man, But we'll catch

1323
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Speaker 2: you pretty soon, all.

1324
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 5: Right, Thanks guys having you here.

1325
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 2: Save to you man, Seamus McGhee, he's awesome. Team lead

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Speaker 2: of sports trading at bet MGM. You know what, we

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01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 2: go from awesome to awesome, don't add. It's like picking

1328
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Speaker 2: between your kids if you're a parent. Huh, ask Rich

1329
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 2: which kid he loves more? You know, shame us and

1330
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 2: Rich favorite?

1331
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 4: You know, Oh, everybody does, except unless your coach.

1332
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Speaker 2: Prime then'll tell you, hey, yeah, I love with the latest.

1333
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Speaker 11: What's going on, man, fellas, I got the goods that's

1334
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 11: coming up in just a moment. First of all, in

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Speaker 11: the Cotton Bowl on Friday night, ninth, Ranke Missouri knocked

1336
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 11: off number seven Ohio State fourteen to three, as Missouri

1337
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 11: held the Buckeyes to two hundred three yards of total

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Speaker 11: offense and two for fifteen on third downs. Now, I'm

1339
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:05,360
Speaker 11: literally rolling up my sleeves here we go, so coming

1340
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 11: up in now in Eastern today the Peach Bowl between

1341
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Speaker 11: tenth ranked Penn State and number eleven Ole Miss, and

1342
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 11: social media sleuths are claiming that ole Miss made a

1343
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 11: fake Penn State fan Twitter account to motivate its players

1344
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:27,439
Speaker 11: for the game. In the last few days, Ole Miss

1345
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 11: head coach Lane Kiffen retweeted four tweets from Twitter account

1346
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Speaker 11: at we Are Underscore Penn State twenty three that, among

1347
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 11: other things, called ole Miss soft and said Penn State

1348
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 11: was going to embarrass them. Well, the aforementioned social media

1349
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 11: sleuths found that the account had only been recently created

1350
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 11: here in December of twenty twenty three. The four tweets

1351
01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 11: that Lane Kiffen retweeted were the only four tweets the

1352
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 11: account had posted, and last but not least, that the

1353
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 11: email address the account was registered to apparently belongs to

1354
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 11: a young assistant on the ole Miss coaching staff.

1355
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 8: Wow, you gotta have a burner email if you're going

1356
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 8: to create a Burner Twitter guys.

1357
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 7: Burner one oh one guys.

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01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 1: Totally geez so bad.

1359
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Speaker 11: Even I have a Burner email account from my Burner

1360
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 11: to can we delete that from the podcast please?

1361
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 1: Anyway?

1362
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 11: The NBA on Friday Night, Tyrese Maxi scored forty two

1363
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:34,479
Speaker 11: and the six Ers one thirty one one twenty seven

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Speaker 11: win at Houston. Shay Gilgess Alexander scored forty at Oklahoma

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01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:42,920
Speaker 11: City's one nineteen to ninety three win at Denver, breaking

1366
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Speaker 11: Denver's six game winning streak, and the Boston Celtics improved

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01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 11: to sixteen and oh at home with a one twenty

1368
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Speaker 11: to one eighteen victory over the Toronto Raptors. This is

1369
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 11: a non burner account, non burner email holding. Isaac Longcron

1370
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 11: signing off for now back to you guys.

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Speaker 1: Thank you Ilo.

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Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Radio is Countdown to kick Off

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Speaker 2: DMV area, no need to worry about making separate accounts

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Speaker 2: for DC, Maryland and Virginia when crossing state borders. Simply

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Speaker 2: just log into your existing account instead of creating a

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Speaker 2: new one. I don't think there's anything more impactful on

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Speaker 2: today's show thus far, or in the next hour and

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01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 2: twenty minutes that will be said than what Jared Smith

1381
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:32,639
Speaker 2: just said.

1382
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Speaker 1: This is Berner one oh one.

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01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you have a Burner account, you gotta have

1384
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 2: a Burner email linked to that Burner account.

1385
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 1: Are they gonna trace it back to you?

1386
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 3: Come on, let's step it up over here, old.

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01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 7: Mess analysis of the season.

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Speaker 1: Really yeah, it's really that simple, man.

1389
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 4: I don't I don't understand what Lane Kiffin is thinking.

1390
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:54,559
Speaker 1: I thought, no idea.

1391
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 4: I thought Lane Kiffin was smarter than that, I really did.

1392
01:08:59,880 --> 01:09:03,680
Speaker 4: I think that Lane comes off sounding a little uncalculated

1393
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:07,880
Speaker 4: at times by sounding reactive, but I think a lot

1394
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 4: of it is because he's messaging something else. You know,

1395
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 4: there are times where he says something to the media

1396
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 4: and it sounds like, Wow, he's really shooting from the hip,

1397
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:20,599
Speaker 4: And if you really sit back and think about why

1398
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 4: he's saying what he's saying when he's saying it, you.

1399
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 1: Can connect some dots.

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Speaker 4: Like I do feel like he's more calculated than people

1401
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 4: give him credit for. And this is a good example

1402
01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 4: of how he's trying to do some you know, high

1403
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 4: level math, but he's doing it with D plus students

1404
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 4: Like whoever he gave this responsibility to this assistant who

1405
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 4: opened this account that he retweeted, they did this all wrong.

1406
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 4: This was poorly handled and what it comes off instead

1407
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 4: of motivational, it comes off as cringe as the kids

1408
01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 4: are saying, this is extremely cringey, like that feeling you

1409
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 4: have in your gut when you have that secondary embarrassment

1410
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 4: for somebody else.

1411
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:04,760
Speaker 1: Everybody's felt it before, you know.

1412
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 4: You go to a public speaking event and the speaker

1413
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 4: freezes on the stage or starts having the flop sweats in.

1414
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 1: Front of you.

1415
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 4: You go to an open mic and a guy is

1416
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 4: swallowing hard and the stage lights are making a woozy

1417
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:21,680
Speaker 4: Like everybody's had that feeling where you're feeling bad for

1418
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 4: somebody in the moment. I'm getting that right now with

1419
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 4: link Kiffin. Like every time I think about this, I

1420
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 4: start to get that woozy feeling in my stomach. Like everybody,

1421
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:35,599
Speaker 4: all of those players in these squad rooms who are

1422
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 4: keeping up with this story on social media are looking

1423
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:39,839
Speaker 4: at him differently today.

1424
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:43,439
Speaker 1: They're gone, Oh, this guy's just a oh gross, you

1425
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like, what is he doing? You

1426
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 1: know what I mean? It's such a bad.

1427
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 4: Storyline for Lane Kiff, and it's so it reeks of desperation.

1428
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1429
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 8: And another thing too, like if the goal, like, if

1430
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 8: you're the head coach of a team, your goal is

1431
01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:00,320
Speaker 8: to put that team in the best position win.

1432
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:03,519
Speaker 7: You did the opposite, yeah.

1433
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 8: Like like this is if you think the Penn State,

1434
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 8: and I can speak from experience, we research this stuff

1435
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 8: before we go to the games. I used to spend hours.

1436
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 8: Now I am in, you know, a sports information nerd.

1437
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 8: So I'm not saying everyone's like me, but I used

1438
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 8: to spend hours when I remember when I said Richie

1439
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 8: might not like this, or now I spend hours looking

1440
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:26,679
Speaker 8: up the opposing players.

1441
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:27,799
Speaker 7: They're everything.

1442
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:29,640
Speaker 8: Everything I could find about them when I would go

1443
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:31,599
Speaker 8: to these games is a you know, bright eyed, bushy

1444
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:32,679
Speaker 8: tail freshman and software.

1445
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 7: I got a little bit more mature in my later years.

1446
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:37,760
Speaker 7: I didn't do this as much, but like.

1447
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:40,519
Speaker 8: This is like fandom one oh one, Like you find

1448
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 8: dirt on the other team. Like if you don't think

1449
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 8: the old miss players are going to be hearing about

1450
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 8: this every single snap today, it's going to become a

1451
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 8: massive on field trash talking storyline today. And I just think,

1452
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:57,720
Speaker 8: if your goal is to motivate your team, this.

1453
01:11:57,800 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 7: Is like the worst possible thing you could do.

1454
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:02,760
Speaker 8: Like, now they're gonna be feeling cringe as the kids

1455
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 8: say the entire game, and maybe they overcome it and

1456
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 8: it doesn't matter. I think who's playing for Penn State matters.

1457
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 8: I just saw the list of guys opting out and

1458
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:12,679
Speaker 8: it's it's a long list. Fashanu, the All American Tackle,

1459
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 8: Chop Robinson, first Team All Big Ten, Kaylene King, one

1460
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 8: of the best corners in the country. Like, none of

1461
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:18,559
Speaker 8: those guys are playing for Penn State today. So we'll

1462
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:22,680
Speaker 8: see what the personnel looks like. But motivation, man, I mean,

1463
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 8: you just gave it all to Penn State and we'll

1464
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 8: see what old miss has. We'll see if they can

1465
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 8: overcome what was this is.

1466
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:29,760
Speaker 2: A gaff, guys, this was a gaff of social I

1467
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 2: just love the thought process of coming up with your

1468
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 2: screen name, you know what I mean for the Burner account.

1469
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:40,040
Speaker 1: When do we coming misstd ed you?

1470
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:45,439
Speaker 7: It was unbelieveable. The guy's name is hold On. I

1471
01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 7: gotta get I gotta give a shout out to the

1472
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:47,760
Speaker 7: guy's name here.

1473
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 4: Yea we yeah we are Jumpman twenty three or whatever.

1474
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:55,479
Speaker 2: It was like, yeah, we are, like we gott we

1475
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:57,520
Speaker 2: are in there. That's a Penn State.

1476
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 1: Too long, too long? That can't can't do that.

1477
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 8: It's no j f ray at ole Miss? Do needu,

1478
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:07,760
Speaker 8: go ahead, email that guy. He was dumb enough to

1479
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:09,759
Speaker 8: create a burner account with his email.

1480
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 1: There you go, you do think? Yeah, look, man, last

1481
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:13,680
Speaker 1: little thing.

1482
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin does a lot of funny stuff and valuable

1483
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 2: stuff on social media, right, uh, but this was not

1484
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:24,559
Speaker 2: one of them. This was uh, this was something that

1485
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 2: undoes a lot of the momentum he has created on

1486
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:31,160
Speaker 2: social media. When you have a burner account, trace back

1487
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:34,360
Speaker 2: to old Miss. That's talking trash about old Miss and

1488
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:38,439
Speaker 2: it's supposed to be from Penn State. It's so bad, dude,

1489
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:39,679
Speaker 2: that's a lot.

1490
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 7: Like what's really the upside there?

1491
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 2: Oh well, right, Like you imagine like these scenes, Think

1492
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:48,559
Speaker 2: about any given Sunday with al Pacino when we crawl

1493
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 2: with our fingernails for that inch, Like can you imagine

1494
01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:55,639
Speaker 2: laye with the print out. Look at what they're saying

1495
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:58,880
Speaker 2: about you, and they're like tearing out of the locker room.

1496
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 1: Bring them on, like the landom on you right right?

1497
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 1: So stupid, it's so stupid.

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01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 2: All right, We've got rich Ornberger, pet State all American.

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Speaker 2: Jared Smith FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian. Now coming up

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Speaker 2: dollars back in bonus bets. If that loses, that's code

1515
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 2: countdown in the bet mgm app.

1516
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:10,880
Speaker 1: Har let's do this. Prop it up. Five player plays.

1517
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:14,760
Speaker 2: So many possibilities, college and NFL.

1518
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:17,120
Speaker 1: What are you thinking here, Jared, Well.

1519
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:18,639
Speaker 7: It's funny because I think this game.

1520
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:20,320
Speaker 8: We haven't talked about this game on trying to put

1521
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 8: in a couple of games that we haven't talked about.

1522
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 7: And I'm actually really.

1523
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:25,679
Speaker 8: Excited from a betting standpoint for this Bears Falcon's game.

1524
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:29,439
Speaker 8: I think Justin Fields and the the news with Cole

1525
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:32,040
Speaker 8: Komet being banged up in practice this week and maybe

1526
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 8: not playing and no Darnel Mooney makes the the onus

1527
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 8: on Justin Fields. His legs even more so. Mey Comet

1528
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:39,840
Speaker 8: was unreal last week. If he doesn't play, it's gonna

1529
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:41,519
Speaker 8: be interesting. So I'll go over fifty four and a

1530
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:43,760
Speaker 8: half rushing yards for Justin Fields. He's gone over this

1531
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:45,960
Speaker 8: in four or five. He had ninety seven last week,

1532
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 8: and I think he's gonna be playing with a chip

1533
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 8: on his shoulder these last two weeks. The Bears are

1534
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,679
Speaker 8: probably gonna be gonna get the number one pick, which

1535
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:54,040
Speaker 8: means they're probably gonna take a quarterback. So we'll see

1536
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 8: what Justin Fields' future is like. And how about this

1537
01:15:56,479 --> 01:16:00,360
Speaker 8: Falcons last five quarterbacks face Gardner, Minshew, Bryce, Young, Baker

1538
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:04,719
Speaker 8: Mayfield in Boyle, their car not exactly Jim Plunkett running

1539
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 8: around out there. So I think over fifty four and

1540
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:08,640
Speaker 8: a half rushing yards for Justin Fields the way to

1541
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:09,520
Speaker 8: go in this one.

1542
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 4: Wow, all right, I'm gonna stay with the Lions and

1543
01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:16,000
Speaker 4: the Cowboys for my prop bets. I think that this

1544
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 4: game has fireworks in soore for us. I think it's

1545
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 4: gonna be high scoring, and in that I'm gonna take

1546
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 4: all overs here on some of these props. In terms

1547
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:28,600
Speaker 4: of offensive skilled position players, Jamier Gibbs fifty and a

1548
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:31,840
Speaker 4: half rushing yards, give me the over. Dallas is banged

1549
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:34,680
Speaker 4: up up front on their offense. Excuse me, on their

1550
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:38,080
Speaker 4: defensive line. They already have a hard time stopping the rush.

1551
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:40,719
Speaker 4: He saw that against the Bills, So give me that over.

1552
01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 4: I'm on Ross Saint Brown six and a half receptions,

1553
01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:47,680
Speaker 4: Give me the over. Ceedee Lamp ninety nine and a

1554
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 4: half receiving yards. He's eclipse one hundred yards a bunch

1555
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 4: of times this season. This team is excellent at home

1556
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 4: in terms of getting him fed. And also he's got

1557
01:16:56,560 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 4: Michael Irvin's reception record in sight and he can do

1558
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 4: it in sixteen games, So he's gonna be featured in

1559
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:06,639
Speaker 4: this offensive onslaught for the Boys, So give me ceed

1560
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 4: Lamb with the over.

1561
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 1: On the ninety nine and a half. I'm gonna throw

1562
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 1: a kicker at you. Huh.

1563
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 2: How about Bears kicker Cairo Santos or Santos if you're nasty,

1564
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:23,600
Speaker 2: remember Janet Jackson or MS Jackson if you're nasty, right Santos.

1565
01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 2: So he's hit at least two field goals in five

1566
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:30,080
Speaker 2: of the last six games Bears are taking on the Falcons.

1567
01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 2: His field goal prop of one and a half. If

1568
01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:35,559
Speaker 2: you take the over, it's minus one zho five. It's

1569
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 2: almost even money right now. He's hitting five or six games.

1570
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 2: I can see because it's the Bears offense. They move

1571
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 2: the ball down the field and then they get around

1572
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:47,560
Speaker 2: the twenty five yard line, they get stuck in the

1573
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:50,680
Speaker 2: mud and here comes Santos. You know, I'm gonna take

1574
01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:53,479
Speaker 2: the over as far as that goes. And my guy,

1575
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:57,680
Speaker 2: I love this guy. Georgia Bulldog taking on the ragtag

1576
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 2: B or C team of Florida State. Kendall Milton. He's

1577
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:05,240
Speaker 2: their change of pace running back. I'm gonna take over

1578
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:08,000
Speaker 2: fifty six and a half. That guy is a workhorse.

1579
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:10,040
Speaker 2: I expect him to score a touchdown as well. That's

1580
01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:12,840
Speaker 2: minus one forty if you'd like that angle. But I'll

1581
01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 2: take Kendall Milton over fifty six and a half against

1582
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:17,120
Speaker 2: Florida State.

1583
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:18,080
Speaker 1: What do you guys think?

1584
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 8: I like it stoler as well running it against Denver,

1585
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:24,479
Speaker 8: who I would imagine is probably not.

1586
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:26,920
Speaker 1: Going to be very motivated after what they just did history.

1587
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, they right Mike Rally around Steve?

1588
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1589
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 1: They could all right?

1590
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:36,400
Speaker 2: Coming up next though, the biggest reason we could see

1591
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:38,679
Speaker 2: a whole lot of offense in this matchup?

1592
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:39,720
Speaker 1: Oh what's going on?

1593
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:44,200
Speaker 2: Everybody? Welcome in here. We got ball to discuss, lots

1594
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:46,840
Speaker 2: of it. We get some bowl games today, we get

1595
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 2: the Lions at Cowboys Nightcap Sunday, full NFL Monday, huge

1596
01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 2: college football matchups. How about this one, guys? We talked

1597
01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:02,559
Speaker 2: about the Rose Bowl to the other semi final game here, huh?

1598
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:07,600
Speaker 2: Shall we go Sugar bowling Texas and Washington. Texas is

1599
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:10,720
Speaker 2: favored by four. The total is sixty three and a

1600
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:15,120
Speaker 2: half at bet MGM. Now this might be the biggest

1601
01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 2: indication that we could see a lot of scoring.

1602
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:17,640
Speaker 1: How about this?

1603
01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:24,880
Speaker 2: So Washington's passing offense is first in yardsberg game in FBS.

1604
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 2: Texas's defense against the pass ninety fifth Okay, so that's

1605
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:37,000
Speaker 2: that's not a great formula if Texas is trying to

1606
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:40,680
Speaker 2: limit Michael Pennick Junior's effectiveness, and then you look at

1607
01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:44,640
Speaker 2: the flip side, Washington trying to slow down all of

1608
01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 2: those offensive weapons that the Longhorns have. Sixty three and

1609
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 2: a half sounds like a lot because it is. But

1610
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 2: in a college football game, when this is the matchup

1611
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:58,880
Speaker 2: on a fast track, don't be surprised if there is

1612
01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:00,439
Speaker 2: a lot of scoring this one.

1613
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:03,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with you, And it really comes down

1614
01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:09,040
Speaker 4: to Ken Washington keep pace with the Longhorns viewers. Obviously

1615
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:13,960
Speaker 4: coming off a phenomenal season Brooks out of the backfield worthy.

1616
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:17,080
Speaker 4: It's been that kind of year for Texas that a

1617
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 4: lot of Texas fans have been waiting for. And I

1618
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:25,679
Speaker 4: think to their credit on the I guess you would

1619
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 4: say the precipice of arguably the biggest test in this

1620
01:20:30,040 --> 01:20:34,719
Speaker 4: athletic program's history now going to the SEC and testing

1621
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 4: their metal against that conference after all these years being

1622
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:43,680
Speaker 4: in the Big Twelve, it's it's important for them to advance.

1623
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:46,320
Speaker 4: I think it really is, you know, even more so

1624
01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:49,439
Speaker 4: than Washington. I think I think Washington to a lot

1625
01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:53,640
Speaker 4: of people's eyes appears to be a better fit for

1626
01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:56,680
Speaker 4: the conference that they're heading to as opposed to the

1627
01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 4: Longhorns heading to the SEC.

1628
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1629
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:02,680
Speaker 8: I think there's a couple parts of this game that

1630
01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:05,599
Speaker 8: are intriguing. Let's start with the fact that they played

1631
01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:08,559
Speaker 8: twelve months ago in the Alima Bowl, and I.

1632
01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:11,080
Speaker 7: Know it's other opt outs for Texas in that game.

1633
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:12,800
Speaker 8: I think that, you know, I'm not gonna, you know,

1634
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:14,920
Speaker 8: look too much into it, but it is ironic they

1635
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:17,559
Speaker 8: played literally twelve months ago. Washington won that game as

1636
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:20,439
Speaker 8: an underdog and it was Panix and they were a

1637
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 8: little more fired up. And I think the physicality for

1638
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:25,000
Speaker 8: Texas Wayne Lake because Washington got off to a fast start.

1639
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 8: But it is I watched that game and Washington, you know,

1640
01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:32,040
Speaker 8: they're athletes hung with the Texas players for sure, you know,

1641
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 8: but don't read too much into it. Kaylen de Boor

1642
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:35,479
Speaker 8: I think as the coaching edge in this game. I

1643
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 8: think he's kind of that eight coach and Sark has

1644
01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 8: had some moments where, you know, maybe not as up

1645
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:43,800
Speaker 8: for some of these spots with the game plan and

1646
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:46,040
Speaker 8: the cohesion. So I think Kaylen de Bor's got the

1647
01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 8: coaching edge Washington's won twenty streat games, so maybe the

1648
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:51,639
Speaker 8: month off, you could make a case that it's bad

1649
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:53,400
Speaker 8: for them, right, you'd send a hot shooter to the

1650
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:55,479
Speaker 8: bench for a month, maybe they cool off. I mean

1651
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:57,559
Speaker 8: they have just been winning games left and right, and

1652
01:21:57,600 --> 01:22:00,920
Speaker 8: now they take four weeks off. I think Quinn Ewers

1653
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:02,840
Speaker 8: looked healthy in the Big Twelve championship game. That should

1654
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:04,599
Speaker 8: be good. He should be fresher after a month off.

1655
01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 8: I thought the Texas offensive line played a lot better

1656
01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:08,040
Speaker 8: than expected this season.

1657
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 7: They were top five and a lot.

1658
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:11,400
Speaker 8: Of metrics that I did not expect them to be in.

1659
01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:14,879
Speaker 8: And this Washington defense, outside of Brayln Trice really struggled

1660
01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:16,559
Speaker 8: to get pressure. So you can make a case that

1661
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:18,719
Speaker 8: Texas's offense is going to have a lot of success

1662
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:20,559
Speaker 8: in this game. I think this game will be won

1663
01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 8: Washington offense against the Texas defense. Can Washington really keep

1664
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:29,240
Speaker 8: up with Texas's offense? And I think the answer from

1665
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:32,639
Speaker 8: as far as yes, I don't think anyone benefited more

1666
01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 8: from the month off than Washington. I mean McMillan and

1667
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:37,400
Speaker 8: Penix with a broken red, I mean they were really

1668
01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:39,360
Speaker 8: banged up down the stretch, and the fact that they

1669
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:43,040
Speaker 8: were able to win all those games. Is really a

1670
01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:46,040
Speaker 8: tip of the cack to that Washington toughness and this

1671
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:49,360
Speaker 8: Texas secondary, as you mentioned, Brian, they are you know,

1672
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:52,280
Speaker 8: they can give up the explosive play outside the top

1673
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 8: seventy five an efficiency against the pass. They're a little handsy,

1674
01:22:56,439 --> 01:22:58,160
Speaker 8: so I could see a lot of penalties in this game.

1675
01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:00,920
Speaker 8: PI And the one thing I know from offensive coordiator

1676
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:02,840
Speaker 8: Ryan Grubb in the in the press conference this week,

1677
01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 8: he even mentioned it, we need to be good at

1678
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:07,719
Speaker 8: our secondary releases because this Texas defense is gonna be up,

1679
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:10,439
Speaker 8: bump and run. They're gonna jamus at the line of scrimmage.

1680
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 8: They're gonna try to throw us off of our route.

1681
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:15,680
Speaker 8: Texas kind of I think Washington has to pass the

1682
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:16,240
Speaker 8: set up the run.

1683
01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:17,599
Speaker 7: You're not gonna run it on Texas.

1684
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:20,160
Speaker 8: If Ryan Grubb tries to be conservative early in this

1685
01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 8: game in Texas takes the lead, that's hright.

1686
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 7: I don't like Washington.

1687
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 8: But if Grub is aggressive and they throw it first

1688
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:29,599
Speaker 8: to maybe set up the run, I think I think

1689
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:30,719
Speaker 8: the Huskies are live.

1690
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:31,320
Speaker 7: Dog in this game.

1691
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:34,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, Washington, they're the type of team that

1692
01:23:34,920 --> 01:23:38,840
Speaker 4: can win it when it's close, it's it's it's a

1693
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 4: pretty fascinating stat if you look at the end of

1694
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:45,960
Speaker 4: their season. Really, once they entered conference play, they won

1695
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:49,719
Speaker 4: nine consecutive games by ten points or less. Not only

1696
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 4: no one else can say that, but also they won

1697
01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:57,439
Speaker 4: seven one score victories this season in FBS play. That

1698
01:23:57,560 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 4: they're the only team you could argue they're the clutch

1699
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:03,200
Speaker 4: his team in college football this year. And fourth quarter

1700
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 4: scoring is obscenely important when you're when you're playing in

1701
01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 4: these championship games because a lot of these games, well

1702
01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:12,800
Speaker 4: I shouldn't say a lot of these games, because we've

1703
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:15,600
Speaker 4: seen a lot of semi final blowouts, but there have

1704
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 4: been some good close matchups and being able to score

1705
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 4: when the when the moment matters the most. You know,

1706
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:26,439
Speaker 4: Pennis Junior appears to be one of those quarterbacks who

1707
01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:29,439
Speaker 4: really has what it takes to lead a game winning drive,

1708
01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 4: and that's super duper important. And having that level of

1709
01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:37,599
Speaker 4: composure is rare in college football, and so I look

1710
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:43,760
Speaker 4: more veteran, more capable. Maybe quarterback edge goes to Washington

1711
01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:46,160
Speaker 4: in this matchup. So if it is a close game,

1712
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:48,959
Speaker 4: I agree with you. I think the Huskies are live dog.

1713
01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 2: Man, when you talk about Texas's secondary being susceptible to

1714
01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:59,679
Speaker 2: giving up the big play and they're facing Washington, yeah,

1715
01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 2: you know, that's like saying you're a boxer and I'm

1716
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 2: susceptible to the occasional uppercut and I'm fighting Mike Tyson, you.

1717
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:09,559
Speaker 1: Know, in his prime.

1718
01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:12,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not a good combination.

1719
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:16,920
Speaker 2: Now, on the flip side for Texas, Washington's rushing yards

1720
01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:21,280
Speaker 2: per game one hundred and first in FBS, Texas is

1721
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:26,840
Speaker 2: rushed defense yards per game third. Dylan Johnson is not

1722
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:31,679
Speaker 2: running in on Texas. So with Washington being a lot

1723
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:36,240
Speaker 2: more one dimensional, maybe that helps Texas's defense a little bit.

1724
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:40,160
Speaker 2: I think that's truly what really bothered Oregon the last

1725
01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:43,320
Speaker 2: time we saw Washington play was Dylan Johnson was doing

1726
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:45,880
Speaker 2: his thing and then Pennick Junior's doing his thing, and

1727
01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:47,280
Speaker 2: you're like, what.

1728
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:47,919
Speaker 1: Do you stop?

1729
01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:51,000
Speaker 2: They're cooking with grease with both the run in the past,

1730
01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:54,559
Speaker 2: then you're really screwed. So if Texas can stop the run,

1731
01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:58,040
Speaker 2: I think that helps their pass defense. Maybe not to

1732
01:25:58,080 --> 01:26:00,920
Speaker 2: the point where you really keep Pennick Junior in check,

1733
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:04,360
Speaker 2: but at least they're not like a two pronged attack

1734
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:06,639
Speaker 2: on you and then it's just you have no chance

1735
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 2: at that point.

1736
01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:11,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well listen, I have to tell you one

1737
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 4: of the things that may be a key to this

1738
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:17,879
Speaker 4: game is red zone efficiency for both of these teams.

1739
01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:21,840
Speaker 4: Like if you look at how Texas was converting red

1740
01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:26,680
Speaker 4: zone opportunities to touchdowns this season, they were abysmal in

1741
01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:29,559
Speaker 4: that area of the field. They ranked like one hundred

1742
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:33,599
Speaker 4: and twentieth or maybe one hundred twenty first in the country.

1743
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:35,720
Speaker 4: They they just could not score when they got it

1744
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:38,599
Speaker 4: in the red zone. And so you can win between

1745
01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:42,519
Speaker 4: the twenties, that's great. But again going back to that

1746
01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:45,799
Speaker 4: stat about how Washington has won close games.

1747
01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:48,960
Speaker 1: If you're settling for field goals, if you're Texas.

1748
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:51,880
Speaker 4: And you're not scoring on red zone opportunities, and you're

1749
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:54,880
Speaker 4: winning between the twenties, but you're settling for three instead

1750
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:56,800
Speaker 4: of six, holy smokes, this.

1751
01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:58,720
Speaker 1: Could be a long, hard day for the Longhorns.

1752
01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:02,680
Speaker 8: I mean, let's be honest. And the metrics that we

1753
01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:05,680
Speaker 8: look at from the full season, you have to go

1754
01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:08,400
Speaker 8: in and look at the games because the metrics might

1755
01:27:08,439 --> 01:27:11,760
Speaker 8: say this Texas defense is really good, but then you

1756
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 8: go look at the offenses that they face they vote.

1757
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:16,680
Speaker 8: So first of all, the Big Twelve this year did

1758
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 8: not have a great offensive season. There's only two top

1759
01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:23,680
Speaker 8: thirty passing offenses in the entire Big Twelve. One of

1760
01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:26,800
Speaker 8: them's Oklahoma and Texas lost that game. The other one

1761
01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:31,080
Speaker 8: is Kansas, and in that game, Texas faced Jason Bean,

1762
01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 8: who was a backup who's really good, but he found

1763
01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:35,320
Speaker 8: out he was starting the game thirty minutes before the game.

1764
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:37,160
Speaker 8: It was Jalen Daniels all week, and then it wasn't.

1765
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:40,000
Speaker 8: And then the other really good offense Texas face this year,

1766
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:43,320
Speaker 8: Alabama in Week two, a very different offense in Week

1767
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:46,400
Speaker 8: two that they are now today. Jalen Milroe and the

1768
01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 8: Alabama offense have just improved drastically.

1769
01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:51,200
Speaker 7: From the beginning of the season to now.

1770
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:54,760
Speaker 8: So Texas's defensive numbers, I can make a case.

1771
01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:56,280
Speaker 7: Are a little bit over inflated.

1772
01:27:56,720 --> 01:27:59,439
Speaker 8: And that's where I think Washington's offense really is going

1773
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:00,479
Speaker 8: to have an edge in this game.

1774
01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:00,880
Speaker 1: Now.

1775
01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:04,360
Speaker 7: The other side of the ball scares the bejeezis.

1776
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:07,120
Speaker 8: Out of me if I'm a Washington backer, because Texas

1777
01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:10,639
Speaker 8: they're not as stout running it. Brooks toward the ACL

1778
01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:12,400
Speaker 8: a month ago, so he's out. They're kind of dealing

1779
01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:17,959
Speaker 8: with a committee backfield, but they obviously have dudes, especially

1780
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:20,400
Speaker 8: Worthy and Whittington. Like they have guys like can Washington

1781
01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:23,280
Speaker 8: tackle and space that scares me. They missed one hundred

1782
01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:25,479
Speaker 8: and forty nine tackles this year, eighth most at the

1783
01:28:25,479 --> 01:28:28,080
Speaker 8: power five level. Like that side of the ball does

1784
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:32,200
Speaker 8: scare me. But let me ask you this question late game,

1785
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:35,639
Speaker 8: it's on the line, fourth quarter. Do you want sark

1786
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:37,800
Speaker 8: and Ewers or do you want Penix in dbor Hmm.

1787
01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:41,280
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing is when I look at both

1788
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:47,120
Speaker 2: matchups together, if I'm looking at both college football playoff matchups, right, yeah,

1789
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:50,519
Speaker 2: I would rather have viewers out there in a big

1790
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 2: spot with all that talent around him than I do

1791
01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:57,800
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy going up against that Alabama second there if

1792
01:28:57,800 --> 01:28:59,200
Speaker 2: they have to lean on him heavily.

1793
01:28:59,439 --> 01:29:02,839
Speaker 1: That was your Remember the ladder game, Joe.

1794
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:05,479
Speaker 7: Last year we made so much money on Quinn Yours

1795
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:08,120
Speaker 7: and the Alma Bawl. Yeah, I owe the chuck.

1796
01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:15,559
Speaker 2: Frankly, you just bet all these over adjusted yardage lines.

1797
01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:18,839
Speaker 2: So Jared's got over whatever I'm in the last fifty

1798
01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:20,800
Speaker 2: one and a half for Quinn Yours.

1799
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:22,599
Speaker 7: We got the hundred three.

1800
01:29:22,680 --> 01:29:23,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that.

1801
01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:27,400
Speaker 4: Was a fun games a lot. It was a fun

1802
01:29:27,439 --> 01:29:30,400
Speaker 4: text threat to watch. I mean and by the way,

1803
01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:33,479
Speaker 4: I forgot about Brooks. You know that, so I look

1804
01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:36,799
Speaker 4: that changes. That changes a lot for Texas in terms

1805
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:40,280
Speaker 4: of running back by committee and reliance on yours.

1806
01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:41,680
Speaker 7: It's all youngsters.

1807
01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:45,640
Speaker 8: It's a lot of It's Baxter Blue Refreshman sophomores like

1808
01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:47,360
Speaker 8: and it'll be interesting to see how they do with

1809
01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:49,360
Speaker 8: the running game because that's where their edges running the ball.

1810
01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:52,320
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and think about and think about the big

1811
01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:56,440
Speaker 4: games they've won against uh who was in Alabama obviously

1812
01:29:56,760 --> 01:30:00,240
Speaker 4: in Oklahoma State a heavy reliance on you were in

1813
01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:03,080
Speaker 4: those games. He had his two best games of the

1814
01:30:03,080 --> 01:30:06,439
Speaker 4: season when they needed it the most. However, he's kind

1815
01:30:06,479 --> 01:30:09,559
Speaker 4: of been a little shaky after return from the shoulder injury.

1816
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:13,920
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's gonna be boy when you think

1817
01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:14,360
Speaker 1: about it.

1818
01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:19,120
Speaker 4: Okay, Michigan Alabama, storylines, narrative, obviously, that is the game.

1819
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:21,240
Speaker 1: A lot of people are talking about this.

1820
01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:24,400
Speaker 4: This inarguably feels like it's going to be the better

1821
01:30:24,520 --> 01:30:27,880
Speaker 4: game because styles make fights, and I think this is

1822
01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:30,000
Speaker 4: these are the two styles that match.

1823
01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:32,240
Speaker 1: Up the best to make the best fight. This is

1824
01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:35,000
Speaker 1: such a random comparison, but let me throw it at you.

1825
01:30:35,040 --> 01:30:35,760
Speaker 1: Guys love that.

1826
01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:39,560
Speaker 2: I'm just thinking about both these offenses, Washington and Texas,

1827
01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:43,400
Speaker 2: and whether when they're humming they it's pretty. It really is.

1828
01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:49,400
Speaker 2: It's pretty football. They are like rhythm NBA players. That's

1829
01:30:49,439 --> 01:30:51,679
Speaker 2: the way their offenses work. Where if you think about

1830
01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:56,360
Speaker 2: shay Gilgess Alexander's got a beautiful offensive game, or the

1831
01:30:56,439 --> 01:30:59,439
Speaker 2: Aaron Fox or guys like that, what do you do

1832
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:03,439
Speaker 2: to slow those guys down? Moran, Yeah, it's a little

1833
01:31:03,479 --> 01:31:05,800
Speaker 2: bit different in football. What you do to slow a

1834
01:31:05,920 --> 01:31:10,880
Speaker 2: rhythmic offense down is you either force a takeaway and

1835
01:31:10,920 --> 01:31:14,120
Speaker 2: you get a quarterback to second guess himself and maybe

1836
01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:16,920
Speaker 2: he's not throwing with the anticipation. He's got to see

1837
01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:19,879
Speaker 2: it first and then throw it, or you knock him around.

1838
01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:22,240
Speaker 2: I mean, that's what these defenses are gonna have to do.

1839
01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:25,800
Speaker 2: They're gonna either have to force a takeaway, you know,

1840
01:31:26,320 --> 01:31:30,519
Speaker 2: force a turnover, or knock them down, hit them because

1841
01:31:30,520 --> 01:31:33,080
Speaker 2: that speeds them up, that gets them off kilter a

1842
01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:35,120
Speaker 2: little bit. But that's what they're gonna have to do

1843
01:31:35,160 --> 01:31:40,040
Speaker 2: because these offenses present so many freaking problems, both of them.

1844
01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:42,320
Speaker 2: But that's what the defenses are gonna have to do.

1845
01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:44,640
Speaker 2: If they don't forget it, man, it's gonna be a

1846
01:31:44,680 --> 01:31:46,720
Speaker 2: long day and you can't slow them down once they

1847
01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:47,559
Speaker 2: get going like that.

1848
01:31:47,800 --> 01:31:50,360
Speaker 4: I love the comparison to the NBA because both of

1849
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:55,720
Speaker 4: these teams really do feel NBA ish, you know, more

1850
01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:58,640
Speaker 4: of a reliance on these offenses than these defenses in

1851
01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:00,960
Speaker 4: a lot of the games they won this season. Yeah,

1852
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:04,599
Speaker 4: and you know, to compare it rhythmically to you know,

1853
01:32:04,680 --> 01:32:08,120
Speaker 4: like a Golden State Warriors, how do you beat Steph

1854
01:32:08,240 --> 01:32:10,400
Speaker 4: Curry when he's on a heater in the first half?

1855
01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:15,080
Speaker 4: Pray pray, or they don't go in, or get Draymond

1856
01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:17,519
Speaker 4: Green and foul trouble, make it so he can't be

1857
01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:19,320
Speaker 4: on the court for the pick and roll. You know,

1858
01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:21,600
Speaker 4: start picking on some of the other aspects of the

1859
01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:25,080
Speaker 4: game so that maybe you're not having an immediate impact

1860
01:32:25,400 --> 01:32:29,240
Speaker 4: on the star player, but you're taking away ancillary pieces

1861
01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:31,200
Speaker 4: that add up to a win in the end.

1862
01:32:31,240 --> 01:32:33,519
Speaker 1: And so, yeah, it's gonna be interesting.

1863
01:32:33,560 --> 01:32:35,680
Speaker 4: This is gonna be a game of strategy, This is

1864
01:32:35,720 --> 01:32:38,360
Speaker 4: gonna be a game of you know, the I think

1865
01:32:38,439 --> 01:32:42,000
Speaker 4: the first half the drive starters. The opening script for

1866
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:44,680
Speaker 4: both of these teams is gonna look vastly different than

1867
01:32:44,720 --> 01:32:46,400
Speaker 4: what they have to come out of the locker room with.

1868
01:32:46,479 --> 01:32:48,280
Speaker 4: So I do think this is gonna be a second

1869
01:32:48,320 --> 01:32:50,640
Speaker 4: half game, and I do think that whoever makes the

1870
01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:52,519
Speaker 4: better adjustments at halftime wins.

1871
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:55,800
Speaker 8: Let's keep the NBA analogy going. Here's how you stop

1872
01:32:55,840 --> 01:32:58,679
Speaker 8: Steph Curry. You run him off the three point line. Yeah,

1873
01:32:58,720 --> 01:33:02,320
Speaker 8: and Washington is good at doing this, Ben, but don't

1874
01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:05,240
Speaker 8: break sure Texas can go between the twenties, but when

1875
01:33:05,280 --> 01:33:07,880
Speaker 8: you get in the red zone, make them kickfield goals.

1876
01:33:08,800 --> 01:33:12,400
Speaker 8: And that, to me, the difference between field goal and

1877
01:33:12,479 --> 01:33:15,840
Speaker 8: touchdown is infinitely more important in the college game than

1878
01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:18,160
Speaker 8: in the NFL. The NFL it's a lower scoring game,

1879
01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:20,519
Speaker 8: the kickers are better, they make more of the field goals.

1880
01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:24,439
Speaker 8: And actually maybe I should have meend that comment meet

1881
01:33:24,720 --> 01:33:26,719
Speaker 8: over recent years, but for the most part.

1882
01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:28,559
Speaker 7: The kickers are better in the NFL, I hope.

1883
01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:32,559
Speaker 8: But you make Texas drive the field, take all that

1884
01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:34,400
Speaker 8: time off, and then kick a field goal, and then

1885
01:33:34,400 --> 01:33:37,280
Speaker 8: when Washington against the ball, you've got to take advantage.

1886
01:33:37,320 --> 01:33:39,400
Speaker 8: Like to me, that is the recipe for an upset

1887
01:33:39,560 --> 01:33:42,479
Speaker 8: is you make the favorite kickfield goals, but you convert for.

1888
01:33:42,479 --> 01:33:44,000
Speaker 7: Touchdowns in the red zone.

1889
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:46,759
Speaker 8: And the one thing I will say about Texas, the numbers,

1890
01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:50,920
Speaker 8: the metrics, the nerd data backs up the point that

1891
01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:54,400
Speaker 8: they struggle a little bit in that red zone area. Oh,

1892
01:33:54,439 --> 01:33:57,839
Speaker 8: they are outside the top fifty on offense and defense,

1893
01:33:57,880 --> 01:33:59,840
Speaker 8: which means when their defense is in the red zone,

1894
01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:03,400
Speaker 8: they also struggle in points per opportunity. This is a

1895
01:34:03,400 --> 01:34:06,360
Speaker 8: metric that I've looked at more this year, points per drive,

1896
01:34:06,479 --> 01:34:09,800
Speaker 8: points per opportunity. It is a very predictive metric to

1897
01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:13,960
Speaker 8: how efficient your offense is at finishing drives and how

1898
01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:17,400
Speaker 8: efficient your defense is at getting off the field in

1899
01:34:17,439 --> 01:34:21,960
Speaker 8: those key areas. Texas is outside the top fifty in

1900
01:34:22,160 --> 01:34:25,559
Speaker 8: both offense and defensive points per opportunity. That is an

1901
01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:28,680
Speaker 8: interesting metric that I think gives Washington a little bit

1902
01:34:28,680 --> 01:34:30,280
Speaker 8: of an edge in those Right. If this is a

1903
01:34:30,280 --> 01:34:32,680
Speaker 8: game of inches and it's field goal touchdown going to

1904
01:34:32,760 --> 01:34:35,720
Speaker 8: decide the difference here, maybe that's the metric that we

1905
01:34:35,720 --> 01:34:37,880
Speaker 8: look at that gives Washington that last edge.

1906
01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:42,959
Speaker 2: That's really surprising when Texas's d line, Yeah, rush defense

1907
01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:45,320
Speaker 2: is so good that they'd be that bad in the

1908
01:34:45,360 --> 01:34:48,519
Speaker 2: red zone. Yeah, outside the top fifty. That's surprising. Hey,

1909
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1912
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1914
01:35:06,680 --> 01:35:10,240
Speaker 2: We've got Rich Orenberger Penn State, All American. He's counting

1915
01:35:10,280 --> 01:35:15,120
Speaker 2: the minutes down, forty two minutes until the Nitney Lions. Oh,

1916
01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:18,679
Speaker 2: we've got shared Smith FSR betting analysts counting down the minutes,

1917
01:35:19,240 --> 01:35:21,880
Speaker 2: thirty nine minutes and fifty.

1918
01:35:22,160 --> 01:35:26,120
Speaker 3: Counting down too, right, Bud, that's right, you takes the field.

1919
01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:27,040
Speaker 1: I'm Brian.

1920
01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:30,080
Speaker 2: No, I'm not counting anything down other than man, when

1921
01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:32,040
Speaker 2: did the Irish get to smoke somebody else?

1922
01:35:32,520 --> 01:35:34,719
Speaker 3: How many months did you have to good yesterday?

1923
01:35:34,760 --> 01:35:34,960
Speaker 8: Huh?

1924
01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:35,280
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1925
01:35:35,439 --> 01:35:37,519
Speaker 8: I wasn't feeling good on that last touchdown when the

1926
01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:40,800
Speaker 8: under loss, But besides that, I was happy. Yeah, that

1927
01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:44,000
Speaker 8: last garbage touchdout. And how about the offensive Lineman two

1928
01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:46,479
Speaker 8: point conversion for Oregon State. That didn't help my cause either?

1929
01:35:47,120 --> 01:35:47,680
Speaker 7: Did you see that?

1930
01:35:47,800 --> 01:35:49,519
Speaker 8: I'm sure you watched that play, it was like a

1931
01:35:49,640 --> 01:35:51,800
Speaker 8: wildcat offensive line.

1932
01:35:51,479 --> 01:35:53,320
Speaker 7: And the two point conversion.

1933
01:35:53,640 --> 01:35:57,840
Speaker 2: Gosh, you gotta love how it's not only that you'll

1934
01:35:57,840 --> 01:36:00,519
Speaker 2: lose a bet, it's the way, oh you'll you know

1935
01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:02,320
Speaker 2: what I mean, They just troll you sometimes.

1936
01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:04,639
Speaker 1: Let's really do all right? Coming up next, this.

1937
01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:07,840
Speaker 2: Is one of the worst arguments you will ever hear

1938
01:36:08,479 --> 01:36:09,919
Speaker 2: in your entire life.

1939
01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:10,840
Speaker 1: We'll share that with you.

1940
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1941
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1942
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1943
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1944
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1945
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1946
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1947
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1948
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1949
01:36:39,520 --> 01:36:42,599
Speaker 2: So you guys ready for a bad argument.

1950
01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:43,360
Speaker 1: Huh yeah?

1951
01:36:43,520 --> 01:36:47,120
Speaker 2: Those Okay, So this would be complements of the Florida

1952
01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:48,040
Speaker 2: State Seminoles.

1953
01:36:48,479 --> 01:36:50,880
Speaker 1: Oh, who are in action today? That's right.

1954
01:36:50,920 --> 01:36:55,240
Speaker 2: They are twenty one point underdogs against Georgia and they

1955
01:36:55,280 --> 01:37:00,519
Speaker 2: have twenty players that have opted out. That an uphill

1956
01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:03,240
Speaker 2: battle against the Bulldogs here, bye bye bye. That's not

1957
01:37:03,320 --> 01:37:07,160
Speaker 2: selling down a bad take. Bad take Florida State players.

1958
01:37:07,160 --> 01:37:11,000
Speaker 2: They still think they should be considered national champs if

1959
01:37:11,000 --> 01:37:14,440
Speaker 2: they end the season as the only undefeated Power five team.

1960
01:37:14,840 --> 01:37:19,280
Speaker 2: They say, it's only right. This is some UCF broken

1961
01:37:19,400 --> 01:37:22,320
Speaker 2: logic over here. Okay, this is as simple as it gets.

1962
01:37:22,960 --> 01:37:27,360
Speaker 2: To win the playoff, you have to be in the playoff.

1963
01:37:27,720 --> 01:37:31,240
Speaker 2: You know what was it was it The Departed right

1964
01:37:31,280 --> 01:37:35,280
Speaker 2: where Jack Nicholson says when I tell you to dump

1965
01:37:35,320 --> 01:37:40,280
Speaker 2: the body in the marsh, I mean in the marsh, right,

1966
01:37:40,360 --> 01:37:42,800
Speaker 2: Like that's you gotta be in the playoff to win

1967
01:37:42,840 --> 01:37:45,439
Speaker 2: the playoff. That's as easy as it gets. What's Florida

1968
01:37:45,479 --> 01:37:48,440
Speaker 2: State talking about here? Stop with these horrible arguments.

1969
01:37:48,880 --> 01:37:52,479
Speaker 4: Well, what's interesting is because I think the playoff system

1970
01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:55,880
Speaker 4: is so broken with only four teams getting in, I

1971
01:37:56,000 --> 01:38:01,599
Speaker 4: actually understand the claim because back what eight years ago,

1972
01:38:02,240 --> 01:38:06,800
Speaker 4: nine years ago, it used to just be the newspapers.

1973
01:38:06,040 --> 01:38:08,439
Speaker 1: Deciding who the national chap that they it's dead dog.

1974
01:38:08,600 --> 01:38:14,280
Speaker 4: We don't like Benz, Yeah, I mean, but but in

1975
01:38:14,320 --> 01:38:17,120
Speaker 4: the situation we're currently in. You have a you have

1976
01:38:17,160 --> 01:38:22,160
Speaker 4: a team that's undefeated and then wins their conference championship

1977
01:38:22,320 --> 01:38:23,719
Speaker 4: left out of the top four.

1978
01:38:24,680 --> 01:38:26,000
Speaker 1: I get the argument.

1979
01:38:26,120 --> 01:38:28,639
Speaker 4: I'm not saying it's a good argument, but I'm saying

1980
01:38:29,280 --> 01:38:33,479
Speaker 4: it's as reasonable an argument as saying that the national

1981
01:38:33,560 --> 01:38:37,320
Speaker 4: champion decided by a four team playoff isn't actually a

1982
01:38:37,400 --> 01:38:38,760
Speaker 4: national champion.

1983
01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:40,479
Speaker 1: Because that's the truth.

1984
01:38:40,840 --> 01:38:45,879
Speaker 4: We haven't had a national champion in college football yet, gentlemen,

1985
01:38:46,080 --> 01:38:47,120
Speaker 4: it hasn't happened.

1986
01:38:47,360 --> 01:38:49,439
Speaker 1: There's never been a bracket, a.

1987
01:38:49,320 --> 01:38:54,559
Speaker 4: Playoff, a a system that has determined for sure who

1988
01:38:54,640 --> 01:38:56,000
Speaker 4: a national champion is.

1989
01:38:56,560 --> 01:39:00,440
Speaker 1: In basketball. In college hoops, we absolutely know who.

1990
01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:02,639
Speaker 4: The national champion is every year because we have an

1991
01:39:02,840 --> 01:39:06,320
Speaker 4: actual playoff. We have something that makes sense. We get

1992
01:39:06,320 --> 01:39:10,360
Speaker 4: to see teams vy for a championship in corners of

1993
01:39:10,400 --> 01:39:12,960
Speaker 4: a bracket, and they find their way to a final.

1994
01:39:13,280 --> 01:39:13,840
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1995
01:39:14,160 --> 01:39:15,880
Speaker 2: Don't we get a team on the bubble that gets

1996
01:39:16,000 --> 01:39:19,559
Speaker 2: left out? I think the nit champion is actually the

1997
01:39:19,600 --> 01:39:20,879
Speaker 2: winner of March Madness.

1998
01:39:21,960 --> 01:39:26,080
Speaker 4: Well, you get my point. So again, do I think

1999
01:39:26,120 --> 01:39:28,120
Speaker 4: it's a great argument. No, I don't think it's a

2000
01:39:28,120 --> 01:39:30,360
Speaker 4: great argument. But do I think when you start to

2001
01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:34,840
Speaker 4: compare it to the clown show that the actual college

2002
01:39:34,880 --> 01:39:37,680
Speaker 4: football playoff is Florida State has as much of a

2003
01:39:37,760 --> 01:39:42,120
Speaker 4: claim as you know, Michigan, Alabama, Texas or Washington who

2004
01:39:42,720 --> 01:39:44,439
Speaker 4: because that's not real either.

2005
01:39:44,479 --> 01:39:46,519
Speaker 1: In my opinion, I.

2006
01:39:46,439 --> 01:39:48,519
Speaker 8: Think I'm gonna make a case that if Penn State

2007
01:39:48,560 --> 01:39:50,840
Speaker 8: wins the Peach Bowl today, they should make a claim

2008
01:39:50,880 --> 01:39:54,240
Speaker 8: for the national title because they won in Atlanta and

2009
01:39:54,280 --> 01:39:56,879
Speaker 8: that is the home of the current national champion, Georgia,

2010
01:39:56,920 --> 01:39:59,320
Speaker 8: which means, you know, Penn State's better than Georgia, right,

2011
01:39:59,360 --> 01:40:02,160
Speaker 8: I mean that's just you know, based on what we're now.

2012
01:40:02,320 --> 01:40:04,439
Speaker 7: I'm obviously joking and being facetious here.

2013
01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:09,719
Speaker 8: I think the logic, like I understand, like the rudimentary logic,

2014
01:40:09,800 --> 01:40:14,240
Speaker 8: but it's it just screams sour grapes, like.

2015
01:40:14,200 --> 01:40:18,599
Speaker 7: This whole situation. It's just it didn't go our way.

2016
01:40:18,800 --> 01:40:21,920
Speaker 8: So now we're gonna you know, play the victim card

2017
01:40:22,120 --> 01:40:25,479
Speaker 8: and not take accountability for the fact that this is

2018
01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:27,320
Speaker 8: the way the cookie crumbles.

2019
01:40:26,840 --> 01:40:28,560
Speaker 1: Like it.

2020
01:40:28,640 --> 01:40:31,800
Speaker 8: Sports has a really cruel way of being real with

2021
01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:35,280
Speaker 8: life and like, unfortunately, there's a winner and a loser

2022
01:40:35,280 --> 01:40:39,280
Speaker 8: in life most most days, and unfortunately for Florida State,

2023
01:40:39,360 --> 01:40:42,200
Speaker 8: this year, they're a loser in terms of the way

2024
01:40:42,280 --> 01:40:44,679
Speaker 8: that the season played out. Does that mean that they're

2025
01:40:44,720 --> 01:40:46,560
Speaker 8: a lesser team and we should look down at No.

2026
01:40:46,760 --> 01:40:49,280
Speaker 8: They just there can only be one team that wins

2027
01:40:49,280 --> 01:40:51,040
Speaker 8: their last game, right, And I get and I know

2028
01:40:51,040 --> 01:40:52,479
Speaker 8: they could win today, but you know what I mean,

2029
01:40:52,520 --> 01:40:55,000
Speaker 8: but like wins their last game, wins the championship, Like

2030
01:40:55,040 --> 01:40:58,360
Speaker 8: there's a there could only be one team that actually,

2031
01:40:58,800 --> 01:41:02,120
Speaker 8: by the letter of the law, wins their last game

2032
01:41:02,160 --> 01:41:04,080
Speaker 8: and wins championship. In this current format we have where

2033
01:41:04,080 --> 01:41:06,000
Speaker 8: there's four teams, they all play once and then they'll

2034
01:41:06,000 --> 01:41:07,479
Speaker 8: play you know, the winners will play next week.

2035
01:41:07,600 --> 01:41:09,000
Speaker 7: Florida State is not one of those teams.

2036
01:41:09,439 --> 01:41:12,280
Speaker 8: Now we're already hearing acc they're gonna suit the AC

2037
01:41:12,400 --> 01:41:12,680
Speaker 8: and leave.

2038
01:41:12,800 --> 01:41:14,960
Speaker 7: Sure, fine, conference, blow up the conferences.

2039
01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:17,559
Speaker 8: I'm all for any logic that says let's get rid

2040
01:41:17,600 --> 01:41:20,439
Speaker 8: of these conferences. But to say you're the best team

2041
01:41:20,479 --> 01:41:23,160
Speaker 8: in college football this year, I just think that's a stretch.

2042
01:41:23,200 --> 01:41:25,880
Speaker 8: So yeah, let's I think also, george is gonna blow

2043
01:41:25,920 --> 01:41:28,040
Speaker 8: them out today, So bet Georgia first half, full game.

2044
01:41:28,080 --> 01:41:29,080
Speaker 7: It's moving up right now.

2045
01:41:29,320 --> 01:41:33,680
Speaker 2: What is it with the State of Florida that's what

2046
01:41:33,800 --> 01:41:34,680
Speaker 2: it boils down to.

2047
01:41:34,760 --> 01:41:38,160
Speaker 1: It was UCF at first. Yeah, not in the playoff.

2048
01:41:38,479 --> 01:41:40,639
Speaker 2: We beat the team who beat the team who beat

2049
01:41:40,640 --> 01:41:44,000
Speaker 2: the other team. We're national chips, and now Florida State

2050
01:41:44,040 --> 01:41:48,519
Speaker 2: with this broken logic, this is the deal. Okay, this

2051
01:41:48,560 --> 01:41:51,479
Speaker 2: is a club. Think get the College Football Playoff? These

2052
01:41:51,520 --> 01:41:54,960
Speaker 2: final four teams as a club. Okay, if you don't

2053
01:41:54,960 --> 01:41:58,040
Speaker 2: get through the velvet ropes and get into the club

2054
01:41:58,400 --> 01:41:59,639
Speaker 2: whatever they're having at the club.

2055
01:41:59,680 --> 01:42:01,360
Speaker 1: Let's say it's a wet T shirt.

2056
01:42:01,080 --> 01:42:03,840
Speaker 2: Contest and you're like, I, I'm really I should be

2057
01:42:03,880 --> 01:42:06,040
Speaker 2: in this thing. I'm telling you, if you see what

2058
01:42:06,080 --> 01:42:08,920
Speaker 2: I have under this code, you're gonna be impressed. If

2059
01:42:08,960 --> 01:42:11,799
Speaker 2: you don't get through the velvet ropes, you're not winning

2060
01:42:11,960 --> 01:42:15,240
Speaker 2: the contest. Okay, that's as simple as a guess. And

2061
01:42:15,280 --> 01:42:17,960
Speaker 2: I think it's garbage. Florida State isn't there. I think

2062
01:42:18,000 --> 01:42:21,720
Speaker 2: they should be there, but they're not there. They're outside

2063
01:42:21,760 --> 01:42:24,640
Speaker 2: the ropes trying to get into the club. So no,

2064
01:42:24,760 --> 01:42:28,960
Speaker 2: you don't win the contest. Sorry, and enjoy your twenty

2065
01:42:29,000 --> 01:42:31,680
Speaker 2: four point loss today. Oh I hope they lose by

2066
01:42:31,720 --> 01:42:34,599
Speaker 2: a million, Oh bad, latch, I hope they lose seventy

2067
01:42:34,640 --> 01:42:35,240
Speaker 2: seven to three.

2068
01:42:35,479 --> 01:42:37,640
Speaker 4: I think they probably will. And like I said, I

2069
01:42:38,120 --> 01:42:40,160
Speaker 4: don't think ay that they're gonna win today. But b

2070
01:42:40,800 --> 01:42:44,120
Speaker 4: I don't think that this is This does sound whiny

2071
01:42:44,200 --> 01:42:46,600
Speaker 4: to your point, Jared, and to your point, Brian, this

2072
01:42:46,760 --> 01:42:48,519
Speaker 4: is just a bad argument.

2073
01:42:48,640 --> 01:42:49,679
Speaker 1: It's a bad take.

2074
01:42:50,320 --> 01:42:53,040
Speaker 4: I felt that way about Central Florida years ago when

2075
01:42:53,040 --> 01:42:55,760
Speaker 4: they had their claim at the title. But how do

2076
01:42:55,840 --> 01:42:57,920
Speaker 4: you like, you know the old saying you fight crazy

2077
01:42:57,920 --> 01:43:01,320
Speaker 4: with crazy, Well you fight stupid with stupid. Right now,

2078
01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:06,839
Speaker 4: the current bowl structure, the current playoff structure is stupid.

2079
01:43:07,240 --> 01:43:10,720
Speaker 4: So I mean, if you bark loud enough and you

2080
01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:12,639
Speaker 4: get enough attention, and that's.

2081
01:43:12,479 --> 01:43:14,679
Speaker 1: What Florida State, the whole athletic department.

2082
01:43:14,960 --> 01:43:17,400
Speaker 4: All they're trying to do is get headlines as many

2083
01:43:17,400 --> 01:43:20,439
Speaker 4: as they possibly can. Because what do headlines mean? It

2084
01:43:20,479 --> 01:43:25,280
Speaker 4: means attention. What does attention equate to more viewers, money,

2085
01:43:25,360 --> 01:43:28,840
Speaker 4: higher ratings, better money. Yes, So if you want out

2086
01:43:28,840 --> 01:43:32,439
Speaker 4: of the ACC and you keep making headline after headline

2087
01:43:32,520 --> 01:43:36,200
Speaker 4: after headline, well one of these conferences a big ten sec.

2088
01:43:36,360 --> 01:43:37,480
Speaker 1: Somebody is gonna.

2089
01:43:37,200 --> 01:43:39,479
Speaker 4: Say, hey, you know what we could use a Florida

2090
01:43:39,600 --> 01:43:43,040
Speaker 4: State Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, the seminals that makes sense,

2091
01:43:43,240 --> 01:43:45,880
Speaker 4: and they're coming off of that big story about how

2092
01:43:45,920 --> 01:43:49,120
Speaker 4: they were heartbroken and they bought their whole team rings

2093
01:43:49,200 --> 01:43:52,519
Speaker 4: because they were the national champions in their mind, and

2094
01:43:52,760 --> 01:43:56,679
Speaker 4: we could really profit off of that storyline this upcoming

2095
01:43:56,720 --> 01:43:59,400
Speaker 4: season if they find a way to break from the ACC.

2096
01:44:00,120 --> 01:44:03,600
Speaker 4: That's what this is. This is a New Year's Eve, Noisemaker.

2097
01:44:03,880 --> 01:44:07,280
Speaker 4: This is trying to get as much attention to their

2098
01:44:07,320 --> 01:44:08,880
Speaker 4: program as they possibly can.

2099
01:44:09,280 --> 01:44:11,880
Speaker 8: Well said, honestly, there's not a lot to add to

2100
01:44:11,920 --> 01:44:15,240
Speaker 8: this besides the fact that Florida State's really upset and

2101
01:44:15,320 --> 01:44:17,679
Speaker 8: when you get backed into a corner, you do things

2102
01:44:17,720 --> 01:44:20,280
Speaker 8: out of desperation, and this is just one of those things.

2103
01:44:20,479 --> 01:44:23,439
Speaker 8: I think the lawsuit against the ACC has a lot

2104
01:44:23,479 --> 01:44:27,200
Speaker 8: more merit because you are fighting a conference that is

2105
01:44:27,439 --> 01:44:30,760
Speaker 8: kind of holding you back in a sense. But to

2106
01:44:30,840 --> 01:44:33,040
Speaker 8: say you're the champion or you're you deserve to be

2107
01:44:33,080 --> 01:44:35,240
Speaker 8: in the playoff, when you're not in the playoff.

2108
01:44:35,200 --> 01:44:38,799
Speaker 2: You just look fully, well, that's the thing is you're right, Jared,

2109
01:44:38,960 --> 01:44:43,680
Speaker 2: this is getting dumped, This is losing your job, and

2110
01:44:43,720 --> 01:44:48,160
Speaker 2: you fire up Twitter and just unleash something that when

2111
01:44:48,160 --> 01:44:50,759
Speaker 2: you're cool down, you're like, I shouldn't have done that.

2112
01:44:50,760 --> 01:44:52,720
Speaker 1: That was kind of stud to sent that text to

2113
01:44:52,760 --> 01:44:53,200
Speaker 1: the ex.

2114
01:44:53,400 --> 01:44:56,000
Speaker 2: Did you see Fford come to that realization of like

2115
01:44:56,040 --> 01:44:58,200
Speaker 2: that actually was a really steel dustmells on.

2116
01:45:00,160 --> 01:45:03,400
Speaker 3: I've got Isaac Lowan Krown. Here's the rule of thumb.

2117
01:45:03,439 --> 01:45:07,000
Speaker 2: If you're trying to get through the velvet ropes, just

2118
01:45:07,040 --> 01:45:08,240
Speaker 2: go with Isaac Lowenkrown.

2119
01:45:08,960 --> 01:45:11,040
Speaker 1: You know, I love, We'll get you through that. What's

2120
01:45:11,080 --> 01:45:11,439
Speaker 1: going on?

2121
01:45:11,560 --> 01:45:15,080
Speaker 11: I low Oh, you actually brought up I probably shouldn't

2122
01:45:15,080 --> 01:45:20,320
Speaker 11: say this, but back in a previous generation of my life, yep,

2123
01:45:20,680 --> 01:45:23,919
Speaker 11: I somehow judge no I was invited into an actual

2124
01:45:24,280 --> 01:45:31,000
Speaker 11: trendy like nightclub called Skybar and war Yeah. Well Skybar

2125
01:45:31,040 --> 01:45:34,000
Speaker 11: is kind of the West Coast equipment, so they only

2126
01:45:34,000 --> 01:45:41,120
Speaker 11: had valet parking and it was like okay, Mercedes, Mercedes,

2127
01:45:41,640 --> 01:45:47,200
Speaker 11: Range Rover, Porsche, and then me in my ninety five Corolla.

2128
01:45:47,720 --> 01:45:50,160
Speaker 11: So I made quite a scene during my one and

2129
01:45:50,240 --> 01:45:51,799
Speaker 11: only appearance at Skybor.

2130
01:45:51,920 --> 01:45:52,680
Speaker 1: How does that song go?

2131
01:45:52,880 --> 01:45:57,000
Speaker 11: They see me rolling in my Corolla? Anyway, coming up

2132
01:45:57,000 --> 01:45:59,280
Speaker 11: at the top of the hour. The college football bowl

2133
01:45:59,360 --> 01:46:01,960
Speaker 11: season was zooms with the Peach Bowl between number ten

2134
01:46:02,040 --> 01:46:04,640
Speaker 11: Penn State and eleventh ranked Ole Miss. Last night in

2135
01:46:04,720 --> 01:46:07,920
Speaker 11: the Cotton Bowl, number nine, Missouri defeated seventh ranked Ohio

2136
01:46:08,080 --> 01:46:11,040
Speaker 11: State fourteen to three as they held the Buckeyes to

2137
01:46:11,120 --> 01:46:13,639
Speaker 11: two hundred three yards of total offense and two out

2138
01:46:13,640 --> 01:46:17,000
Speaker 11: of fifteen on third downs. In the NFL, on Friday,

2139
01:46:17,040 --> 01:46:20,800
Speaker 11: Denver Broncos quarterback Russell Wilson went on the record with

2140
01:46:20,880 --> 01:46:23,559
Speaker 11: the assertion that after their went over the Chiefs back

2141
01:46:23,600 --> 01:46:26,920
Speaker 11: in Week eight, the Broncos threatened to bench him for

2142
01:46:27,040 --> 01:46:29,759
Speaker 11: the rest of the season if he did not adjust

2143
01:46:29,800 --> 01:46:33,920
Speaker 11: the thirty seven million dollar injury guarantee in his contract.

2144
01:46:34,120 --> 01:46:36,280
Speaker 12: They came up to me during the bye week and

2145
01:46:36,479 --> 01:46:38,640
Speaker 12: beginning the bye week on Monday or Tuesday, and they

2146
01:46:38,680 --> 01:46:40,840
Speaker 12: told me that if I didn't change my contract my

2147
01:46:40,880 --> 01:46:44,200
Speaker 12: injury guarantee, that i'd be, uh, you know, I'd be

2148
01:46:44,240 --> 01:46:46,200
Speaker 12: bench for the rest of the year. And I don't

2149
01:46:46,200 --> 01:46:47,559
Speaker 12: know have to. We had nine games left the show.

2150
01:46:47,920 --> 01:46:49,280
Speaker 1: I was definitely disappointed about it.

2151
01:46:49,520 --> 01:46:53,080
Speaker 11: In the NBA on Friday night, Tyrase Maxi dropped forty

2152
01:46:53,080 --> 01:46:55,880
Speaker 11: two in the Philadelphia seventy six ers one thirty one

2153
01:46:55,920 --> 01:46:59,520
Speaker 11: to one twenty seven win at Houston. Shay Gilderess Alexander

2154
01:46:59,600 --> 01:47:03,320
Speaker 11: scored forty as Oklahoma City won at Denver one nineteen

2155
01:47:03,360 --> 01:47:06,479
Speaker 11: to ninety three, breaking Denver sixteen winning streak, and the

2156
01:47:06,520 --> 01:47:09,559
Speaker 11: Boston Celtics improved a sixteen and oh at home with

2157
01:47:09,600 --> 01:47:13,400
Speaker 11: a one twenty to one eighteen win over Toronto. Back

2158
01:47:13,439 --> 01:47:17,679
Speaker 11: to Brian No, Jared Smith, and Jason Statham's long lost

2159
01:47:17,760 --> 01:47:19,519
Speaker 11: younger brother, Rich Horn.

2160
01:47:21,280 --> 01:47:22,120
Speaker 7: Do like the haircut?

2161
01:47:22,200 --> 01:47:22,320
Speaker 8: Rich?

2162
01:47:22,360 --> 01:47:24,200
Speaker 7: I gotta say, you hiding it from us?

2163
01:47:24,439 --> 01:47:27,519
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, yeah? Oh, I took it down to the slip. Yeah. No,

2164
01:47:27,640 --> 01:47:29,160
Speaker 1: I popped the top and.

2165
01:47:29,200 --> 01:47:31,840
Speaker 9: The story story behind it is priceless.

2166
01:47:32,040 --> 01:47:33,320
Speaker 7: What is the story behind that?

2167
01:47:33,479 --> 01:47:34,040
Speaker 1: Did you visit that?

2168
01:47:34,439 --> 01:47:34,679
Speaker 11: Oh?

2169
01:47:34,800 --> 01:47:36,600
Speaker 4: No, no, no, I wish I would have lost a

2170
01:47:36,640 --> 01:47:38,400
Speaker 4: bet it would have been It would have been better

2171
01:47:38,560 --> 01:47:41,599
Speaker 4: for everybody involved. It turned out to be an awesome

2172
01:47:41,640 --> 01:47:44,000
Speaker 4: story and a great finish to the night. But I

2173
01:47:44,080 --> 01:47:47,880
Speaker 4: went to get a haircut and uh, and let's just

2174
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:52,280
Speaker 4: say it could not have gone any wronger oh man,

2175
01:47:52,360 --> 01:47:54,240
Speaker 4: And so I had to take business into my own

2176
01:47:54,320 --> 01:47:57,639
Speaker 4: hands in the backyard. Actually, my wife started the cut

2177
01:47:58,000 --> 01:48:00,800
Speaker 4: and I didn't hand her the guard to the clippers,

2178
01:48:01,200 --> 01:48:04,400
Speaker 4: and then she was beside herself. She likes my hair,

2179
01:48:04,439 --> 01:48:06,880
Speaker 4: so she starts shaving my head and she goes, oh

2180
01:48:06,920 --> 01:48:09,840
Speaker 4: my god. She was like it's bald. I'm shaving you bald.

2181
01:48:09,880 --> 01:48:11,519
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, well you didn't put the guard on.

2182
01:48:11,880 --> 01:48:13,760
Speaker 4: You didn't put the guard on the clipper. I was like,

2183
01:48:13,840 --> 01:48:15,200
Speaker 4: I figured you just wanted to get.

2184
01:48:15,120 --> 01:48:17,600
Speaker 1: Rid of all of it. She's like, no, no, what

2185
01:48:17,720 --> 01:48:18,360
Speaker 1: have you done?

2186
01:48:18,520 --> 01:48:23,120
Speaker 4: And so I'm I'm underneath a full moon on the

2187
01:48:23,240 --> 01:48:25,920
Speaker 4: deck shaving my head while she's inside crying.

2188
01:48:26,000 --> 01:48:27,679
Speaker 1: It was but I think it's.

2189
01:48:27,640 --> 01:48:28,800
Speaker 7: She knows it's gonna grow back.

2190
01:48:28,960 --> 01:48:30,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think I think it's grown on.

2191
01:48:31,040 --> 01:48:33,519
Speaker 2: That's a great question.

2192
01:48:33,640 --> 01:48:36,320
Speaker 3: She does know it's going to grow again.

2193
01:48:37,360 --> 01:48:39,000
Speaker 7: You'll look pretty much the same as.

2194
01:48:39,520 --> 01:48:41,160
Speaker 1: It's not like my hair was all that long.

2195
01:48:41,200 --> 01:48:42,880
Speaker 7: It's not like, oh it wasn't.

2196
01:48:42,800 --> 01:48:45,639
Speaker 4: Good gracious no, but let me tell you something. That's

2197
01:48:45,720 --> 01:48:46,360
Speaker 4: married life.

2198
01:48:46,400 --> 01:48:47,280
Speaker 1: You know. I love it.

2199
01:48:47,320 --> 01:48:47,559
Speaker 7: Man.

2200
01:48:47,680 --> 01:48:48,280
Speaker 1: That's awesome.

2201
01:48:48,320 --> 01:48:49,559
Speaker 7: Shout out to the Ormburger Clan.

2202
01:48:49,640 --> 01:48:52,800
Speaker 1: Happy New Year, very well done, very nicely done. Hey.

2203
01:48:53,160 --> 01:48:55,720
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2204
01:48:55,920 --> 01:48:57,960
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2205
01:48:58,040 --> 01:49:01,000
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2206
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2207
01:49:04,960 --> 01:49:08,360
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2208
01:49:08,439 --> 01:49:11,080
Speaker 2: get your podcast and you'll see this show posted right

2209
01:49:11,120 --> 01:49:12,240
Speaker 2: after we get off the year.

2210
01:49:12,520 --> 01:49:14,200
Speaker 1: We've got Rich.

2211
01:49:15,040 --> 01:49:20,120
Speaker 7: Bald ball Ornburger reference yea punch out.

2212
01:49:20,280 --> 01:49:20,800
Speaker 1: That's right.

2213
01:49:21,200 --> 01:49:25,240
Speaker 2: We've got a Jared Piston, Honda Smith.

2214
01:49:26,760 --> 01:49:30,480
Speaker 7: King, Hippo variety, right, super.

2215
01:49:30,200 --> 01:49:34,240
Speaker 1: Macho man, you know, man, I love that was one

2216
01:49:34,280 --> 01:49:36,280
Speaker 1: of my favorite. Oh he was. My head is so

2217
01:49:36,400 --> 01:49:37,040
Speaker 1: cold now.

2218
01:49:39,760 --> 01:49:44,400
Speaker 2: I'm Brian coming up, Betty, Yeah, yeah, put a Fedora

2219
01:49:44,479 --> 01:49:44,960
Speaker 2: on right.

2220
01:49:44,960 --> 01:49:47,800
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, yeah, your hat game up now.

2221
01:49:48,000 --> 01:49:51,040
Speaker 3: The kangle that's what Bruce arians used.

2222
01:49:50,840 --> 01:49:54,080
Speaker 1: To rock right a New Year's Eve top hat.

2223
01:49:54,120 --> 01:49:59,000
Speaker 2: Maybe I was thinking more kangle, but I like what.

2224
01:49:58,960 --> 01:50:00,760
Speaker 1: You're thinking with the top right here.

2225
01:50:01,439 --> 01:50:03,360
Speaker 2: All right, coming up next, we got picks to make

2226
01:50:03,439 --> 01:50:08,639
Speaker 2: and also we've got away in quickly on arguably the

2227
01:50:08,680 --> 01:50:14,439
Speaker 2: biggest story in football of the week that many, including me,

2228
01:50:14,680 --> 01:50:16,280
Speaker 2: did not see coming at all.

2229
01:50:16,360 --> 01:50:16,960
Speaker 1: We'll get to that.

2230
01:50:17,160 --> 01:50:20,040
Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Radios Countdown to Kickoff, presented by

2231
01:50:20,080 --> 01:50:23,559
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2232
01:50:23,600 --> 01:50:27,479
Speaker 2: presented by Bett MGM. Props to the crew Bob Benson,

2233
01:50:27,520 --> 01:50:32,040
Speaker 2: our trusted producer, Chris Burfett, technical producer Isaac Low and

2234
01:50:32,120 --> 01:50:36,040
Speaker 2: Cron crushing it. It's the only way he knows how

2235
01:50:36,040 --> 01:50:38,679
Speaker 2: to get down top of the hour. Keep you locked

2236
01:50:38,680 --> 01:50:43,599
Speaker 2: here on FSR TJ. Hushman, Zada, Plaxico Burris. They've got

2237
01:50:43,600 --> 01:50:47,719
Speaker 2: you hooked up for a loaded weekend of ball and beyond.

2238
01:50:48,439 --> 01:50:51,240
Speaker 2: Before we get to the picks real fast. The story

2239
01:50:51,240 --> 01:50:55,719
Speaker 2: of the week, Russell Wilson getting benched. Huh Russ gets

2240
01:50:55,760 --> 01:51:00,559
Speaker 2: benched in favor of Jared Stidham. The Broncos could be

2241
01:51:00,600 --> 01:51:05,400
Speaker 2: on the hook for eighty five million dollars if they

2242
01:51:05,439 --> 01:51:09,080
Speaker 2: release Russell Wilson. It would be spread out over two

2243
01:51:09,200 --> 01:51:12,920
Speaker 2: years if it's a post June first designation, which of

2244
01:51:12,960 --> 01:51:15,000
Speaker 2: course it would be. They're not gonna eat all eighty

2245
01:51:15,040 --> 01:51:18,439
Speaker 2: five mil in just the twenty twenty four season. But

2246
01:51:18,560 --> 01:51:21,679
Speaker 2: this is surprising to me. Man, where he's guaranteed thirty

2247
01:51:21,760 --> 01:51:23,200
Speaker 2: nine million dollars next year?

2248
01:51:23,280 --> 01:51:23,760
Speaker 1: No matter what?

2249
01:51:24,600 --> 01:51:28,120
Speaker 2: Is it that bad? That's my question? Is it that

2250
01:51:28,400 --> 01:51:31,439
Speaker 2: bad that this is the only course of action? This

2251
01:51:31,520 --> 01:51:34,280
Speaker 2: bum Russell Wilson. We're acting like he's putting up Sam

2252
01:51:34,320 --> 01:51:36,000
Speaker 2: Howeld numbers or something like that.

2253
01:51:36,080 --> 01:51:38,160
Speaker 1: You know, his numbers are pretty good.

2254
01:51:38,280 --> 01:51:41,920
Speaker 2: And when you're you've got guaranteed money tied to the guy,

2255
01:51:42,880 --> 01:51:46,160
Speaker 2: I just don't understand the direction where you're gonna be

2256
01:51:46,280 --> 01:51:49,599
Speaker 2: taking your hits for a couple of seasons to come

2257
01:51:49,680 --> 01:51:52,479
Speaker 2: out of this whole thing. I think just running it

2258
01:51:52,520 --> 01:51:54,599
Speaker 2: back in twenty four is the better way to go.

2259
01:51:54,640 --> 01:51:55,439
Speaker 1: But what do I know?

2260
01:51:55,640 --> 01:51:57,679
Speaker 3: That's what the Broncos are ending up doing here.

2261
01:51:58,040 --> 01:51:59,480
Speaker 1: It's wild.

2262
01:51:59,600 --> 01:52:03,400
Speaker 4: It's if you really think about the trajecty of Russell

2263
01:52:03,439 --> 01:52:08,080
Speaker 4: Wilson's career on one side of the trade and then afterward,

2264
01:52:08,600 --> 01:52:13,080
Speaker 4: I mean, his Hall of Fame candidacy may be going away.

2265
01:52:13,120 --> 01:52:17,920
Speaker 4: It's really shocking and what it's coming down to his personality.

2266
01:52:18,400 --> 01:52:18,600
Speaker 1: You know.

2267
01:52:18,760 --> 01:52:21,360
Speaker 4: Nathaniel Hackett I think was a little bit more protective

2268
01:52:21,439 --> 01:52:25,080
Speaker 4: of Russell Wilson. I don't think he made as much

2269
01:52:25,120 --> 01:52:29,639
Speaker 4: of a scene of how there was discord between himself

2270
01:52:29,680 --> 01:52:32,519
Speaker 4: and Russ. But Sean Payton came in and he pretty

2271
01:52:32,600 --> 01:52:35,000
Speaker 4: much opened up the book and said, hey, look there

2272
01:52:35,040 --> 01:52:37,880
Speaker 4: were these problems last year with Russ. I'm gonna try

2273
01:52:37,920 --> 01:52:40,479
Speaker 4: to fix him and he hasn't been able to, so

2274
01:52:40,479 --> 01:52:41,759
Speaker 4: he's running him out of town.

2275
01:52:42,080 --> 01:52:44,519
Speaker 1: We'll see if he's a better fit wherever he lands next.

2276
01:52:44,520 --> 01:52:47,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, what a wild story in Denver.

2277
01:52:47,840 --> 01:52:50,160
Speaker 8: I'm cool with the move. I mean, I don't feel

2278
01:52:50,200 --> 01:52:53,200
Speaker 8: bad for us. I mean make over one hundred and here,

2279
01:52:53,240 --> 01:52:55,479
Speaker 8: here's the numbers. One hundred and forty two million dollars

2280
01:52:55,520 --> 01:52:58,479
Speaker 8: from the Broncos for eleven wins. That's thirteen million per win,

2281
01:52:58,880 --> 01:53:01,559
Speaker 8: three million per touctionw pass Like, Russ is gonna be fine.

2282
01:53:01,800 --> 01:53:03,880
Speaker 8: Someone's gonna pick him up on a veteran's minimum deal

2283
01:53:03,920 --> 01:53:07,439
Speaker 8: and he'll probably, you know, play somewhere next year. I

2284
01:53:09,320 --> 01:53:11,160
Speaker 8: business sometimes is not fun.

2285
01:53:11,280 --> 01:53:11,360
Speaker 6: Like.

2286
01:53:11,400 --> 01:53:14,640
Speaker 8: This was a business decision, and the Broncos felt that

2287
01:53:15,240 --> 01:53:16,839
Speaker 8: they wanted to move on as a franchise.

2288
01:53:16,840 --> 01:53:17,519
Speaker 1: They felt that.

2289
01:53:17,479 --> 01:53:20,400
Speaker 8: It was just overall, there was too much negative for

2290
01:53:20,479 --> 01:53:22,960
Speaker 8: it to become a net positive with Russ. I'm not

2291
01:53:23,040 --> 01:53:24,680
Speaker 8: in the locker room, I'm not behind the scenes. I

2292
01:53:24,720 --> 01:53:26,320
Speaker 8: don't know if there's something else going on there. But

2293
01:53:26,680 --> 01:53:29,800
Speaker 8: it was a business decision. People knocking it for the

2294
01:53:29,840 --> 01:53:33,479
Speaker 8: personal side of it. It's business and the Broncos wanted

2295
01:53:33,520 --> 01:53:35,120
Speaker 8: to move on, and they were willing to eat eighty

2296
01:53:35,160 --> 01:53:36,479
Speaker 8: plus million in order to do so.

2297
01:53:37,040 --> 01:53:40,320
Speaker 2: Man, it's just Russ is seventh and passer rating this

2298
01:53:40,479 --> 01:53:43,080
Speaker 2: season twenty six touchdowns, eight picks.

2299
01:53:43,360 --> 01:53:45,000
Speaker 3: You can do a whole lot worse than that.

2300
01:53:45,160 --> 01:53:48,120
Speaker 2: I can fully understand wanting to get better, that's what

2301
01:53:48,200 --> 01:53:52,360
Speaker 2: everybody wants to do. But realistically, are you gonna get

2302
01:53:52,400 --> 01:53:55,719
Speaker 2: better next year? I don't think your odds are great

2303
01:53:55,720 --> 01:53:59,240
Speaker 2: of that happening. Fun fact, this happened to Derek Carr,

2304
01:53:59,280 --> 01:54:04,280
Speaker 2: same situation last season before he was ousted in uh Raider.

2305
01:54:05,960 --> 01:54:08,519
Speaker 2: And you know who took his place to final two games.

2306
01:54:08,920 --> 01:54:13,639
Speaker 2: Jared Stidham. Who's taking Russ's place the last two game?

2307
01:54:13,760 --> 01:54:14,840
Speaker 1: That is insane.

2308
01:54:15,400 --> 01:54:17,360
Speaker 7: I'll say this big deal too. In the offseason.

2309
01:54:17,439 --> 01:54:19,519
Speaker 8: He may making like ten million on his contract, so

2310
01:54:19,560 --> 01:54:21,839
Speaker 8: he's not just some like you know, random dude.

2311
01:54:21,880 --> 01:54:23,360
Speaker 1: You know, I'll say this real fast.

2312
01:54:23,760 --> 01:54:26,320
Speaker 2: We saw this last year where Derek Carr got benched,

2313
01:54:26,400 --> 01:54:30,280
Speaker 2: took his ball and went home right, left, same with

2314
01:54:30,320 --> 01:54:33,040
Speaker 2: Marcus Mariota got benched with the Atlanta Falcons.

2315
01:54:33,120 --> 01:54:34,680
Speaker 1: Left pathetic.

2316
01:54:35,080 --> 01:54:37,640
Speaker 2: So for Russell Wilson, who it looks like he's still

2317
01:54:37,680 --> 01:54:38,360
Speaker 2: gonna be there.

2318
01:54:38,720 --> 01:54:39,360
Speaker 1: That's what you do.

2319
01:54:39,440 --> 01:54:42,120
Speaker 2: This is the old day, this is the ultimate team game,

2320
01:54:42,280 --> 01:54:45,800
Speaker 2: and because you get benched, you just leave. Really, I

2321
01:54:45,880 --> 01:54:48,480
Speaker 2: thought that was such a joke last year. I didn't

2322
01:54:48,520 --> 01:54:50,440
Speaker 2: like that at all. But it doesn't look like Russ

2323
01:54:50,560 --> 01:54:52,680
Speaker 2: is going to do that. I respect that you gotta

2324
01:54:52,720 --> 01:54:55,760
Speaker 2: be there even if you're demoted. I think we got

2325
01:54:55,800 --> 01:54:57,800
Speaker 2: picks to make. Let's dive into this.

2326
01:55:00,800 --> 01:55:04,200
Speaker 1: Rapid fire. All right, Jared, we'll start with you. What

2327
01:55:04,200 --> 01:55:04,960
Speaker 1: are you thinking? Man?

2328
01:55:05,280 --> 01:55:05,560
Speaker 7: All right?

2329
01:55:05,560 --> 01:55:07,920
Speaker 8: Two in one last week, got back on a winning

2330
01:55:08,000 --> 01:55:10,360
Speaker 8: track here, twenty five, twenty seven and one for the year.

2331
01:55:10,720 --> 01:55:12,720
Speaker 8: Making the prediction now I'll be above five hundred at

2332
01:55:12,760 --> 01:55:14,280
Speaker 8: the end of this Super Bowl campaign.

2333
01:55:14,880 --> 01:55:18,080
Speaker 3: I'm going playoff shot Baybrus prediction.

2334
01:55:19,520 --> 01:55:21,680
Speaker 8: I'll give you the CFP picks because obviously those are

2335
01:55:21,680 --> 01:55:23,560
Speaker 8: the games that matter. I'm taking Michigan minus one and

2336
01:55:23,600 --> 01:55:26,520
Speaker 8: a half against Alabama. I think Michigan's got the experience,

2337
01:55:26,560 --> 01:55:28,120
Speaker 8: BAM has got the more talented roster.

2338
01:55:28,160 --> 01:55:29,680
Speaker 7: We'll see if Jalen Milroe.

2339
01:55:29,360 --> 01:55:33,400
Speaker 8: Can play clean football and if Michigan's defense can hold

2340
01:55:33,480 --> 01:55:35,000
Speaker 8: up against that Alabama offensive line.

2341
01:55:35,000 --> 01:55:36,160
Speaker 7: I think that's where the edge is.

2342
01:55:36,200 --> 01:55:39,520
Speaker 8: I'll take three and a half points in Washington against Texas.

2343
01:55:39,640 --> 01:55:40,280
Speaker 7: I think this is.

2344
01:55:40,200 --> 01:55:42,400
Speaker 8: Going to be a close nip and tuck game, and

2345
01:55:42,440 --> 01:55:45,600
Speaker 8: again fourth quarter games on the line. Do you want

2346
01:55:45,960 --> 01:55:47,880
Speaker 8: ers in Sark Or do you want Pennix and debor

2347
01:55:48,000 --> 01:55:51,560
Speaker 8: I want Pennix and Deboor in my corner. So Michigan

2348
01:55:51,560 --> 01:55:53,800
Speaker 8: minus one and a half, Washington plus three and a

2349
01:55:53,840 --> 01:55:55,280
Speaker 8: half in the college football.

2350
01:55:54,920 --> 01:55:58,000
Speaker 4: All right, I'll hustle through these because we've got some

2351
01:55:58,040 --> 01:56:01,000
Speaker 4: eager betters. So if you're looking forward to primetime tonight,

2352
01:56:01,480 --> 01:56:05,000
Speaker 4: all three of mine come from the Detroit Dallas game,

2353
01:56:05,040 --> 01:56:07,280
Speaker 4: where I'll start with the over on the total fifty

2354
01:56:07,320 --> 01:56:10,120
Speaker 4: two and a half per bet MGM. I like the

2355
01:56:10,280 --> 01:56:13,840
Speaker 4: over hitting because I also like Ceedee Lamb with the

2356
01:56:14,000 --> 01:56:17,200
Speaker 4: over on his ninety five or excuse me, ninety nine

2357
01:56:17,200 --> 01:56:18,800
Speaker 4: point five receiving yards.

2358
01:56:18,800 --> 01:56:20,400
Speaker 1: He's gonna go over ninety nine and a half.

2359
01:56:20,440 --> 01:56:23,360
Speaker 4: He needs like four more catches to beat Michael Irvin's

2360
01:56:24,120 --> 01:56:27,800
Speaker 4: receptions title with the Cowboys and Dak Prescott. I'll take

2361
01:56:27,880 --> 01:56:30,400
Speaker 4: over two to eighty five and a half. In terms

2362
01:56:30,440 --> 01:56:32,760
Speaker 4: of his passing yards. It's sort of one of those

2363
01:56:33,600 --> 01:56:34,800
Speaker 4: congruent picks there.

2364
01:56:34,840 --> 01:56:35,320
Speaker 1: There you go.

2365
01:56:35,520 --> 01:56:38,360
Speaker 2: You're seeing a lot of offense in that primetime gamem

2366
01:56:38,360 --> 01:56:42,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm picking that up, Rich. Okay, three picks

2367
01:56:42,000 --> 01:56:45,200
Speaker 2: for you. Let's start with the Saints. I'm taking the

2368
01:56:45,240 --> 01:56:48,120
Speaker 2: two and a half. That line stinks against Tampa. I

2369
01:56:48,160 --> 01:56:52,880
Speaker 2: love that one. Let me go with Cairo Santosh over

2370
01:56:52,920 --> 01:56:54,640
Speaker 2: a field goal and a half. I think he gets

2371
01:56:54,640 --> 01:56:57,680
Speaker 2: to two against the Falcons this weekend and I love it.

2372
01:56:57,680 --> 01:56:58,480
Speaker 1: I'm sticking with my.

2373
01:56:58,480 --> 01:57:01,480
Speaker 2: Prop Kendall Milton Georgie to running back over fifty six

2374
01:57:01,560 --> 01:57:05,280
Speaker 2: and a half. They smoke the Seminoles today. We got

2375
01:57:05,280 --> 01:57:05,800
Speaker 2: time for this.

2376
01:57:05,920 --> 01:57:06,400
Speaker 1: Let's do it.

2377
01:57:08,600 --> 01:57:10,720
Speaker 9: This is the best play of the day.

2378
01:57:10,800 --> 01:57:14,200
Speaker 1: It's a touchdowns man all right, Jared, what is it?

2379
01:57:14,320 --> 01:57:14,480
Speaker 6: Man?

2380
01:57:14,800 --> 01:57:15,839
Speaker 7: Play for today?

2381
01:57:15,920 --> 01:57:16,520
Speaker 1: Play of the day?

2382
01:57:16,600 --> 01:57:19,000
Speaker 8: Right, let's go Georgia minus twelve and a half in

2383
01:57:19,040 --> 01:57:22,080
Speaker 8: the first half. Everybody is sitting out for Florida State,

2384
01:57:22,120 --> 01:57:25,000
Speaker 8: including I think the backup third string flutist.

2385
01:57:27,160 --> 01:57:30,880
Speaker 2: Everybody enjoyed the ball, especially the playoff Game's Monday, Happy

2386
01:57:30,920 --> 01:57:31,360
Speaker 2: New Year.