WEBVTT - The Holiday Special With Kandy Muse

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, viewers.

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<v Speaker 2>Sniffy's Cruising Confessions is an explicit podcast about queer sex,

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<v Speaker 2>filter dirty words, and unfiltered descriptions of sexual activities. If

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<v Speaker 2>hearing about orgies, anonymous sex, kink, fetish, and more offends

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<v Speaker 2>your sensibilities, you might want to skip this. Viewer discretion

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<v Speaker 2>is advised. It's definitely not for kids.

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<v Speaker 1>So, Gabe, so Chris, we are so back. Oh? Is

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<v Speaker 1>that what we're doing right now? Yeah? I had no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>I've just been living here since season one. Yeah. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really excited that we are back. I have missed

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<v Speaker 2>you so much. I have missed you so much. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and we've certainly gotten a lot of feedback from our viewers.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>I do find that I get recognized in like very

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<v Speaker 2>gay spaces, but always outside of New York.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>I was in LA and someone mentioned something I was

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<v Speaker 2>traveling to like Atlanta for work, and someone also was like,

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<v Speaker 2>do you.

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<v Speaker 1>Do the podcast?

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<v Speaker 5>I get recognized mostly in like sex spaces, and people

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<v Speaker 5>sort of like, well interrupts and I'm like, I'm in

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<v Speaker 5>the middle.

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<v Speaker 1>Of something, felt like maybe now is the time.

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<v Speaker 5>But it is sort of cool to like have people

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<v Speaker 5>come up to me and be like, listen, the podcast

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<v Speaker 5>has been really great.

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<v Speaker 1>I really loved it. I learned a lot, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>which is kind of like what we set out to do, right,

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<v Speaker 1>It is like teach folks, but I also have fun.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen a couple of negative reviews on the podcast

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<v Speaker 2>on like different streaming things, but they're all like this

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<v Speaker 2>is so sexual, and I'm like, oh, yeah, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of the point, babes. It's Sniffy's sniffy. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what to tell you. This is what we do here,

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<v Speaker 1>so sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>It's our bread and butter. Itlled exactly how you think.

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<v Speaker 2>So what have you been up to? I was in

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<v Speaker 2>La for a little bit. I had a cute little

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<v Speaker 2>comedy gig out there. Yeah, since I haven't seen you.

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<v Speaker 1>What have you been up to? God?

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<v Speaker 5>I may may offer of a debut this year, which

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<v Speaker 5>is really exciting to be acting again and doing that.

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<v Speaker 5>I had a show on Fire Island this summer. I

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<v Speaker 5>started a relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, we actually got the boyfriend revealed two days ago,

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<v Speaker 2>so this is very new for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, really, it's a lot of information, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>So before we ask our guests to share, it's our

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<v Speaker 2>turn to do a cruising confession. So I'm curious, Chris,

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<v Speaker 2>have you ever had to hook up while you've been

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<v Speaker 2>traveling home for the holidays?

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<v Speaker 1>Emphatically yes, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I do have some folks that, like I've been hooking

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<v Speaker 5>up with since I left twenty years ago, that I

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<v Speaker 5>still hook up with, which is really cool. And so like,

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<v Speaker 5>whenever I'm in town, I'm like, all right, girls, where

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<v Speaker 5>the things?

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<v Speaker 1>Where are we going? You've got like you've got the

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<v Speaker 1>home all right? Yeah, yeah, little Remian, Yeah exactly. How

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<v Speaker 1>about you? Oh Florida? Oh god. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So when I do go back to Florida, it's pretty bleak.

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<v Speaker 2>It's pretty bleak, and I do like to try to

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<v Speaker 2>find what I can. It's tough in Florida, though, because

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<v Speaker 2>I don't drive and people are really spread apart. So

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<v Speaker 2>in Florida, I'm very much a like, in person, eye

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<v Speaker 2>contact kind of girl. Suffice it to say, we both

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<v Speaker 2>find ways to keep ourselves enticed and adventurous when we're

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<v Speaker 2>back home, but we do know that we are not

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<v Speaker 2>the only ones.

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<v Speaker 6>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Queers all over the world can have a really hard

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<v Speaker 2>time navigating the holidays because being home sucks for some

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<v Speaker 2>of us. Of course, though we are a creative and

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<v Speaker 2>tenacious community, and we can find plenty of ways to

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<v Speaker 2>keep ourselves entertained. Now, maybe that means working your relatives

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<v Speaker 2>into watching a movie musical featuring two bisexual witches and

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<v Speaker 2>the guy that sucked Matt Bomber's foot.

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<v Speaker 5>Or maybe it means exploring your local parks and taking

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<v Speaker 5>in nature with the help.

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<v Speaker 1>Of Sniffy's Oh, I do love doing that.

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<v Speaker 5>In this episode, we want to explore holiday hookups and

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<v Speaker 5>how to navigate what can be both an erotic and

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<v Speaker 5>perilous time, especially if you're traveling this time of year.

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<v Speaker 2>Today, we're going to be covering it all the good,

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<v Speaker 2>the bad, the ugly, the long, the short, the thin,

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<v Speaker 2>the thick, and the downright outrages.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to hear all the stories the same. Welcome

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<v Speaker 5>to Sniffy's Cruising Confessions, the Holiday Special.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Sniffy's Cruising Confessions.

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<v Speaker 5>I am Gabe Gonsals, I'm Chris Patterson Rosso. Each week

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<v Speaker 5>we explore the sublime world of queer sex, cruising and relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>Will be talking to queer folks of all kinds, ask

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<v Speaker 2>them questions, swap sex stories, share intimate revelations.

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<v Speaker 7>A lot of us are discovering ourselves in cruising spaces.

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<v Speaker 7>This happened to me at this toilet stall, in the

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<v Speaker 7>library or the airport.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like everybody's gonna fuck a little harder here.

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<v Speaker 5>Damn, so I have.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like the neighborhood slot. And I took pride in that.

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<v Speaker 1>I was so afraid but yet so intrigued. And Lamar

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<v Speaker 1>I gave to Lamore he could take.

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<v Speaker 8>If you're having sex on Sniffy's, you already have a

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<v Speaker 8>moral deficit.

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<v Speaker 5>Our first guest today went from being a Brooklyn drag

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<v Speaker 5>diva to being one of the world's most beloved drag

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<v Speaker 5>icons following her time on Rupau's Drag Race and Drag

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<v Speaker 5>Race All Stars. I'm talking about the one, the Only

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<v Speaker 5>Candy Muse.

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<v Speaker 2>Candy is eternally booked and busy, and she's traveling all

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<v Speaker 2>over the world, touring and performing for sold out crowds,

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<v Speaker 2>while still making time to eviscerate her fellow contestants on

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<v Speaker 2>EA's House of Villains Season two every week this fall.

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<v Speaker 2>Miss Muse will next be racing our screens on the

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<v Speaker 2>Crave Canada series Slaycation throughout early next year.

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<v Speaker 1>We will be seated.

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<v Speaker 2>Please Welcome to Sniffy's Cruising Confessions. One of our favorite

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<v Speaker 2>Brooklyn divas, Candy Muse.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow what an.

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<v Speaker 1>So I have to ask, are you a Sniffy's girl?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh yeah? Can we find it? Can we find you?

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<v Speaker 3>Ahead less profile? Nonetheless?

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, Sniffe's is quick and easy and let's get it

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<v Speaker 8>done now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I'm a now kind of girl in the

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<v Speaker 2>moment immediate Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, Well because like you know, on Sniffee's is very

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<v Speaker 8>like we're not talking about oh hey, hey, how are

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<v Speaker 8>you good? And you good? Look girl, we know what

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<v Speaker 8>we're here for.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so we can.

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<v Speaker 2>We can find you on the map. You're gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>there somewhere. We'll never know who until we've been graced.

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<v Speaker 3>With Yeah, just somewhere in the East Williamsburg location.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, do you ever send like a face pick?

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<v Speaker 3>I do?

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, I do only because I always find you treat

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<v Speaker 8>people the way you want to be treated, correct, So

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<v Speaker 8>I would never meet up with anyone that does not

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<v Speaker 8>have a head or a face. Rather, so I would

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<v Speaker 8>want the other person to feel safe, right yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and how do you verify it to you?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, there are times where I have to send a

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<v Speaker 8>voice memo because I think that my voice is very

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<v Speaker 8>just thing.

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<v Speaker 1>People are always like, oh, okay, yeah, that's you. That's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of genius. Yeah you really couldn't fake. Yeah, boy,

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<v Speaker 1>no one, I love that exactly. Oh that's great.

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<v Speaker 2>Most people would be like, I send an insta, I

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<v Speaker 2>send a picture with the new paper on it, exactly.

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<v Speaker 8>I just talked, Yeah, no, it's very that And then girl,

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<v Speaker 8>it's all gone home from there?

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<v Speaker 1>Work what else that mouth do?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, we're gonna figure it all out, all right, Okatie

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<v Speaker 2>before we get you too much trouble, before we give

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<v Speaker 2>away the whole prize before folks have worked for it.

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<v Speaker 1>I am curious. This is our holiday episode.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're from the Bronx, but do you still go

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<v Speaker 2>back home to visit family during the holidays?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you ever travel?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 8>So I'm from the Bronx, but my mom actually moved

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<v Speaker 8>down to Orlando, So I go down to Orlando for

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<v Speaker 8>the holidays. Not very fun, but the boys are very cute,

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<v Speaker 8>although no one can host because everyone knows their family.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh yeah, oh so then what CarPlay?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, car play, carp Place has so much cuter than

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<v Speaker 2>like fucking in my backseat.

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<v Speaker 1>Car play is great. I love that euphemism. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like you have to have a certain sized

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<v Speaker 1>car for car play.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I'm a picky eater. Got it a little car,

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<v Speaker 8>a big car, small car, The job will get done.

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<v Speaker 2>Nonetheless, have you ever hosted while traveling? Is it something

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<v Speaker 2>that you're daring enough to do?

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<v Speaker 3>I do.

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<v Speaker 8>I practically live in hotels and airplanes, so I have

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<v Speaker 8>a friend believer that I'm going to a new city

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<v Speaker 8>or country, it is best to taste the delicacy. I'm

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<v Speaker 8>not gonna go to Italy. Not Italian men, right, I

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<v Speaker 8>always I prefer to hosts then travel. I'm a lazy bitch.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I get that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, although not here in Brooklyn.

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<v Speaker 8>I prefer to travel because I don't really like people

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<v Speaker 8>coming into my apartment. And actually I don't need anyone

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<v Speaker 8>knowing where I live.

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<v Speaker 1>That's real security risk. That is a security risk. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I always adjust my location on some face, so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>like three blocks away from my.

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<v Speaker 1>Should favorite feature. I'm like, you don't need to know

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<v Speaker 1>what intersection I'm Matt.

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<v Speaker 2>We do know that some people you know have a

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<v Speaker 2>hard time going back to their families because they might

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<v Speaker 2>be homophobic or transphobic, but you actually have a queer parent,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm curious, how does that shape your experiences during

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<v Speaker 2>the holidays or do you feel a little more open

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<v Speaker 2>talking about your relationships or what you do in your

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<v Speaker 2>free time.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh my god, I come from a queer family in general.

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<v Speaker 3>My sister dated a transman.

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<v Speaker 8>And I have two moms, so being gay and I'm

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<v Speaker 8>very open. The way I am with the public is

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<v Speaker 8>the way I am back at home and my mom

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<v Speaker 8>were like best friends, so I'm always like, girl, there

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<v Speaker 8>was this guy who obviously she doesn't want to hear

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<v Speaker 8>about the stories.

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<v Speaker 3>But she gets it. But there's no judgment.

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<v Speaker 8>And also I'm I'm an open book and I'm my

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<v Speaker 8>mom my friend. Whoever it is, I'm going to talk

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<v Speaker 8>to this story in details.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you cruise like outside? Okay?

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<v Speaker 3>Now here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 8>Cruising kind of scares me, okay, in a way of

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<v Speaker 8>like I'm always so afraid of like what if it'll

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<v Speaker 8>be the one day I go to the park to

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<v Speaker 8>cruise and then someone of authority is gonna show up

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<v Speaker 8>and playing cuffs and I'm just like terrified because I

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<v Speaker 8>don't need TMZ talking about canes, right, you know, cruising

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<v Speaker 8>sounds hot in a wall bathroom work and you're know,

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<v Speaker 8>you're like.

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<v Speaker 1>Both sides right.

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<v Speaker 8>But like public play cruising terrified. Yeah, so I don't

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<v Speaker 8>know about that one.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I can see how that could be really difficult,

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<v Speaker 5>like as a as a known person.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and then that's also that like because everyone wants

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<v Speaker 1>to tea.

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<v Speaker 5>Everyone wants to be the person who's like, guess who

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<v Speaker 5>I saw at the fucking Rambles the other.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, that's what I was gonna say. There was one

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<v Speaker 8>time I went to Rambles and my girl I gotta go. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>because everyone's like Donor Killer.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh there's been times like listen, I know this is

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<v Speaker 3>not the time, but I love you.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, girl, now you jerking alone in the VIP.

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<v Speaker 3>Work.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, I had to. I had to.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to special guest of honor giving shows after

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<v Speaker 2>five people coming to Bush. But yeah, it must be

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<v Speaker 2>kind of confusing, right, Are you looking because you're a fan?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you looking because you're interested? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 8>Prior to me getting on television, I would I love

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<v Speaker 8>going to the you know the bars, you know those

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<v Speaker 8>but the bars, the dark.

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<v Speaker 3>Balls, the parties and parties. But after being on TV.

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<v Speaker 8>It stopped going. You know, well, the Dark Ones in

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<v Speaker 8>Europe is different, but Dark Ones in New York. I

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<v Speaker 8>stopped going to those because I don't know. It's always

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<v Speaker 8>an interesting thing being in a room where again, I

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<v Speaker 8>don't know if you were I want to hook up

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<v Speaker 8>or if you want to just come up to me

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<v Speaker 8>and tell me how much you love me, which either.

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<v Speaker 3>Way, I'm I'm down for balls.

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<v Speaker 5>Can we do bro? I done both? Okay, yes, I

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<v Speaker 5>love you? But can you suck my deck?

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<v Speaker 1>Are?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god?

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<v Speaker 3>I love that?

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<v Speaker 2>So we don't know that your nudes leaked during your

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<v Speaker 2>first time on drag Race, and this has happened to

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of Drag Race contestants. It happens to a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of reality show contestants when fans and people don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how to respect other people's privacy or consent like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Shit's not okay, that sucks and you should not do

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<v Speaker 2>that to people.

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<v Speaker 1>But I am curious, how did you deal with that?

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<v Speaker 2>How did you sort of reply, What was your system

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<v Speaker 2>of support and kind of what would you say after

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<v Speaker 2>experiencing that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think at the time mine and Rose's nuds got.

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<v Speaker 8>Leaked at the same time, and it was kind of like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 8>I'm not shy about something news maybe face at all,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, but it's one of those things of like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 8>I don't think the public needed to see my nudes,

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<v Speaker 8>which is fine because I'm Dominicans, so you know, there's

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<v Speaker 8>nothing to hide. However, it's kind of like again, it's

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<v Speaker 8>like an a vision of privacy where you're just like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 8>the world hasn't even gotten to know who I am

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<v Speaker 8>yet they've seen me completely naked, and now it's been

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<v Speaker 8>a few years since then, and everyone knows my decies

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<v Speaker 8>is so great. It makes things much easier now. I started, oh,

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<v Speaker 8>it's private. I don't post much on there because you know,

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<v Speaker 8>again now being a product figure like I don't never

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<v Speaker 8>really want to.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. Sometimes I'm like I'm on Twitter and all

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<v Speaker 3>the games and book in our short.

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<v Speaker 8>Hole and they really are and I'm like, wait, I

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<v Speaker 8>kind of want to do that too, and then I

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<v Speaker 8>remember who I am. But you know, when that happened,

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<v Speaker 8>I kind of just like, Okay, I'm just gonna deal

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<v Speaker 8>with it.

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<v Speaker 3>It is what it is.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, I can't again, I'm not ashamed it. There's

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<v Speaker 8>nothing to take back, and I believe in sexual liberation.

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<v Speaker 8>If you want to show your body, then go ahead

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<v Speaker 8>and do that. But again, it's about like consent and

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<v Speaker 8>you just can't post someone's news because you feel.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it because like why it's weird.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like such a weird behavior.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're rooting for all of us, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like we should feel free to like send each

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<v Speaker 2>other stuff consentually without like people screenshotting that and putting

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<v Speaker 2>it online. They're actually like states where that is illegal,

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<v Speaker 2>so keep that in mind. But the law aside, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think it's like it's not us showing up for

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<v Speaker 2>each other as a community, right, It's like I want

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<v Speaker 2>to be out here and feel safe, and like the

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<v Speaker 2>one person that does that like ruins it down the

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<v Speaker 2>line for a.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's like how can I who can I trust?

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<v Speaker 5>If I can't trust y'all?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 8>Well that's why when people ask me for videos, I'm like, oh, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 8>not mind.

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<v Speaker 3>The gallery is full of them.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, yeah, disappearing videos, No, No, I've seen.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been in situations where people's record with another phone.

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<v Speaker 5>With another phone, that's how you do it. I haven't

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<v Speaker 5>even thought about it. You know what screen recording. It

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<v Speaker 5>tells you the screen recording. Yeah, but you do it

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<v Speaker 5>with another phone.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, these girls are nefarious. Nefarious. That's a great word

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<v Speaker 1>for the holiday season. Has anyone ever asked you to

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<v Speaker 1>show up in full geche?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>So I answer.

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<v Speaker 8>I was like, I was in Paris a few weeks

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<v Speaker 8>ago and I was doing my gig and I was

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<v Speaker 8>like a real fisher, real womanly and there was this

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<v Speaker 8>guy who I think he was security there and he

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<v Speaker 8>like kept like poking me like all night. I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 8>I'm usually not onant to hook up and drag. I

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<v Speaker 8>am not for that. Maybe that's my job and that's that.

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<v Speaker 8>But this night I was fro a real, real loose

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<v Speaker 8>So we went to the bathroom stall we were like

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<v Speaker 8>making out and whatever and other things. But then after

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<v Speaker 8>the gig, I went to an afters and I got

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<v Speaker 8>out of drag, of course. And then after the afters

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<v Speaker 8>he had messaged me. He was like, Hey, I want

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<v Speaker 8>to come over to your hotel and I was like, so,

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<v Speaker 8>I'm not as a woman anymore. I have a full

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<v Speaker 8>five o'clock shadow coming in And he was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 8>I mean that's fun if you just put on the

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<v Speaker 8>wig and and lipstick, and I was like, okay, yeah

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<v Speaker 8>I did.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a quick drag.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I have a selfie works a selfie? Yeah I

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<v Speaker 3>have to. Oh my god, I literally threw on a

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<v Speaker 3>wig and some lashes.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you a lash? She had time for the glue

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<v Speaker 1>she has?

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<v Speaker 3>Damn. He was fine. He was so fine, And I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, you know what, it's worth it one second.

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<v Speaker 2>I do hope you invoiced him for a meet and

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<v Speaker 2>greet though, because that takes a lot of time. People.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, it's just enough screaming.

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly. Yeah, that photo just.

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<v Speaker 2>Took me back to like this and that ten years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that photo just took me back to sugar Lands.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, okay, good for you. You know what that's for you.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that for you.

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<v Speaker 2>You should use that as your professional headshot. Yeah, special appearance,

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<v Speaker 2>my kadie mute? Is this five o'clock shadow?

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<v Speaker 3>A little lash? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>He lived and.

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<v Speaker 3>I lived to Actually.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm crying right now. I cannot. Oh my god, that

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<v Speaker 1>was amazing. You did great work.

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<v Speaker 8>So I also had an hour to leave before my flight,

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<v Speaker 8>so it was very like, all right, girl, we're doing this.

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<v Speaker 3>We're doing this now?

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<v Speaker 8>Oh wow, were you already packed? Oh yeah, okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 8>a professional. A flight would never be missed by me.

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<v Speaker 8>I love that.

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<v Speaker 3>But a man will also bess show.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got time for both, Yeah, for sure. I am curious.

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<v Speaker 2>So we've talked about a guy that was like very

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<v Speaker 2>into your drag, and you were very accommodating and kind

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<v Speaker 2>about it given the way he asked. But I'm curious

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<v Speaker 2>if you ever experienced the sort of inverse if people

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<v Speaker 2>will meet you in person and then they're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>but you're a drag queen and they assume things about

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<v Speaker 2>you or assume they might not be attracted to.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 8>Drag became cool over the last two years. Right now,

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<v Speaker 8>everyone of the fucking drag queen. But drag wasn't that

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<v Speaker 8>a few years ago, and it was very like, if

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<v Speaker 8>you do drag, you're not masculine, and I'm sorry, like

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<v Speaker 8>I'm not into feminine.

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<v Speaker 1>That was bullshit.

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<v Speaker 3>After Drag Race, do I find that.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, most people are starfuckers and they would want

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<v Speaker 8>to fuck you just because you have a name, right,

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<v Speaker 8>just for the story.

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<v Speaker 3>They watched it on TV.

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<v Speaker 8>They see you as a boy and they're like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 8>well this is just a person and this is just

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<v Speaker 8>their art. But as the recent years, there hasn't been

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<v Speaker 8>anyone that's like, you do drag.

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<v Speaker 3>No. But prior to.

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<v Speaker 8>To drag Race, yeah, it was very like, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>also it doesn't help that I have acrylics on.

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<v Speaker 1>We know we're not doing yeah right right, yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>But yeah, prior to drag Race, absolutely there were there

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<v Speaker 8>were trans guys who are just like not into it

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<v Speaker 8>at all, But now everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it also comes with people kind of understand

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<v Speaker 2>it or becoming more comfortable embracing their femininity.

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<v Speaker 1>Like this whole like no fats.

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<v Speaker 2>No femmes, shit is like so tired, and we've like

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<v Speaker 2>talked about that, and I do feel like, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully there's like a cultural shift happening.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm also like, I, although I do drag, I think

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<v Speaker 8>outside of drag, I could I'm just a regular chill,

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<v Speaker 8>lead back person and I'm into like feminine guys, right.

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<v Speaker 8>So I never understood when people are like, which I

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<v Speaker 8>get it's a preference of you know, you want your

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<v Speaker 8>your mask for mask work. I love you a master

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<v Speaker 8>mask sometimes too, but I just I never understate the

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<v Speaker 8>whole like, oh, you're so feminine, so like my.

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<v Speaker 5>Girl, we have we both have dicks. Yeah, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 5>that's what we're here for.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it not right? Is it not? If not that,

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<v Speaker 1>then what are we doing?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 3>For sure, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think it is also like these conversations around

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<v Speaker 5>gender and like how it's all just a fucking construct

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<v Speaker 5>and like as we sort of like break down what

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<v Speaker 5>that means, right, Like I think people are a little

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<v Speaker 5>bit more open minded to be like you can actually

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<v Speaker 5>be a multitude of things and you can still get

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<v Speaker 5>dick down.

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<v Speaker 3>So absolutely, and also there's nothing masculine about sucking the.

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<v Speaker 1>Dick, so be clear. Yeah, let's be clear.

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<v Speaker 5>I wanted to talk to you a little bit about

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<v Speaker 5>what it's like when you're on tour, right, some of

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<v Speaker 5>the big cities, some of the small city is what

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<v Speaker 5>is it like cruising?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what are the apps?

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<v Speaker 6>Like?

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, you can ask Mistress or Vangie and they would

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<v Speaker 8>they would tell you, Mama, if we are in the

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<v Speaker 8>city and we have a hotel, is going down. We

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<v Speaker 8>were in Boston one year on Halloween tour and then

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<v Speaker 8>one day and also I'm a very open and sexual

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<v Speaker 8>president Mitch Alex is what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>I woke up with twenty guys.

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<v Speaker 8>You know which that day, I think, right before rehearsals,

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<v Speaker 8>like eight guys. And again it's one of those things

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<v Speaker 8>off like well, I'm in a new city and all

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<v Speaker 8>the men here fine, and I am feeling hot and

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<v Speaker 8>bothered and I'm lina something about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you got a hotel room. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>And you know, on the last tour we did, we

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<v Speaker 8>were all over Europe countries I had never been to before,

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<v Speaker 8>and I was like, well, Sweden. There was one time

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<v Speaker 8>we were me and Zandie were flying into I think Switzerland,

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<v Speaker 8>and I had open sniffies and then there was a

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<v Speaker 8>guy that was oready there. That's fine, a ginger man.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh bitch, we let have in the bathroom. That's everything

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<v Speaker 8>I mean here, yeah, my mom, I'm gonna have the

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<v Speaker 8>European man.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why tour is so fun.

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<v Speaker 8>When they're like, oh, we went on tour, I'm not like, oh,

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<v Speaker 8>yues I get to make all this money.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, oh, bitch, oh man.

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<v Speaker 2>You can get to be the new girl in town

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<v Speaker 2>in every oh yeah town. There is nothing more fun

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<v Speaker 2>than're traveling to a new place and opening up an

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<v Speaker 2>app and being like hey, and everyone's.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a new person.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like the sick of you. Yet they haven't been

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<v Speaker 2>looking at you for weeks and talking to you. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like you are the bell of the ball for forty

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<v Speaker 2>eight hours.

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<v Speaker 8>See what I was in has like five gay people,

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<v Speaker 8>oh and five fine, okay, and you.

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<v Speaker 3>Had them all.

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<v Speaker 1>Eighty times. So do the math. How's that multiplication table?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh gosh, I'm curious. As I mentioned you, you've always

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<v Speaker 2>been a fallist drag queen. Are there any performances from

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<v Speaker 2>your early days in Brooklyn where you look back and

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, that was a little crunchy.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a little crunchy.

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<v Speaker 3>There was one time at tn T rest.

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<v Speaker 2>In Peace, God bless so many, so many queens got

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<v Speaker 2>their stuff stolen from that basement.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, by the security guard.

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<v Speaker 1>He was the security guard.

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<v Speaker 3>The security guard. I never knew that he was stealing

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<v Speaker 3>the phones and tips.

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<v Speaker 2>Mama, I got a jacket stolen there one time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>uh huh damn.

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<v Speaker 8>There was one time at TNT I was being a

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<v Speaker 8>greedy little bitch and this time you at dractually.

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<v Speaker 3>You either split tips.

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<v Speaker 5>Or you don't cry, which needs to be discussed beforehand, right, well,

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<v Speaker 5>this night I was feeling feeling my fantasy.

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<v Speaker 8>I have a brand new pair of tights and a

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<v Speaker 8>brandy look at the thrist shop. Was everything right. And Dahlia,

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<v Speaker 8>my sister, she was like, hey, do you want to

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<v Speaker 8>split tips? And I was like, no, girl, let's do

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<v Speaker 8>our own tips tonight. So I went on to perform

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<v Speaker 8>Jennifer Lopez do it well, yes, and everything that could

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<v Speaker 8>go wrong went wrong and I made exactly four dollars

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<v Speaker 8>in tips.

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<v Speaker 3>Dahlia made ninety dollars in tips.

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<v Speaker 8>See, and that's what you get be a greedy little bits.

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<v Speaker 3>That night she had to buy my food at Bigla Smith.

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<v Speaker 1>So love that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so sorry. No, good for me. No, it taught

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<v Speaker 3>me a lesson.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a learning lesson.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can be a capitalist, you can be a communist,

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<v Speaker 2>but at the end of the day, when someone needs

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<v Speaker 2>to share with you, Okay, So Katie, I think we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna we're gonna talk a little bit about for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so curious. I want to know. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>So's Lacation is a brand new TV show created by

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<v Speaker 8>Wilder Thunder and Crave Canada where they take six rugirls

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<v Speaker 8>from different franchises and put us in the house.

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<v Speaker 3>This one, we're in a winter cabin, like an hour

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<v Speaker 3>out of Toronto. I was hoping for a house in Mexico.

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<v Speaker 8>But I get it. It's the pilot season. Maybe season

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<v Speaker 8>two we'll get And it's fun. It's lighthearted, it's fun.

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<v Speaker 8>There's drama, there's hot boys, we get drunk, we get wild,

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<v Speaker 8>we do challenges. It it's a really fun show. It's

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<v Speaker 8>something different that comes out of the Drag Race universe.

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<v Speaker 8>But people for a while now have been asking for

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<v Speaker 8>stuff like a Big Brother version of Drag Race and stuff, right,

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<v Speaker 8>so this is your way of kind of testing things out,

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<v Speaker 8>seeing how it works.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 8>First of all'm excited to just be working and having

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<v Speaker 8>another show, Thank you very much. But it's it's really

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<v Speaker 8>it's so fun. I cannot wait for everyone to see it.

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<v Speaker 8>Is it like a competition show?

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<v Speaker 3>So is it? We do have.

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<v Speaker 8>Competition in the show, but it's not necessarily a competition show.

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<v Speaker 8>And it's it's so different from Drag Race, and it's

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<v Speaker 8>so different from Houssi Villains.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's gonna be really fun. No one gets booted off.

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<v Speaker 8>No, although a few girls should have Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Whose clothing gets thrown into the ice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you brought all your like House of Villains experience.

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<v Speaker 2>You're several seasons watching back Girls Club right right right?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, no, And it's fun because we also get into

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<v Speaker 8>some deep topics. We also get into sexual health. A

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<v Speaker 8>few of the cast mates, you know, they talk about

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<v Speaker 8>their experience.

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<v Speaker 3>And no, it's it's really it's gonna be really good.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm really excited for it. And hopefully we get picked

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<v Speaker 8>up for season two. Yeah, and hopefully for season two

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<v Speaker 8>they keep me on the cast.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, work, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. Yeah, let's get them in the Caribbean.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you can get them to a house in dr

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<v Speaker 1>right time? Yeah yeah? Wait are you all in drag

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<v Speaker 1>the whole time?

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<v Speaker 8>So we're ass boys, But we do at the end,

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<v Speaker 8>we do a huge performance for the town and it's

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<v Speaker 8>we that's cute.

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<v Speaker 3>It's super cute.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, great, so you don't have to practic too much.

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<v Speaker 3>No, although I shout.

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<v Speaker 8>Up before two cases because we were doing boy looks

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<v Speaker 8>every single just like House.

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<v Speaker 1>The Villains and that house really and how Civilians.

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<v Speaker 8>I had a whole closet for herself and they didn't

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<v Speaker 8>show but I also have another entire closet where I

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<v Speaker 8>would get ready.

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<v Speaker 1>Tried to take your I didn't want to give up

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<v Speaker 1>the bed to l Yeah. Oh my god, Larsa, That's

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<v Speaker 1>what it was.

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<v Speaker 3>Which, by the way, I had no idea who she

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<v Speaker 3>was when I got there. I mean, how could you

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<v Speaker 3>do it?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh right, I got it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I was just like, okay, work gro.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Kendy, thank you so much for joining us. We

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<v Speaker 2>can't wait to see you onlaycation. As of filming, how

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<v Speaker 2>Civilians haven't hasn't finished yet, so I'm very excited to

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<v Speaker 2>finish the season and see how that turns out.

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<v Speaker 8>Very We're halfway through the season now, and let me

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<v Speaker 8>tell you, Ship, if you thought the fights were bad,

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<v Speaker 8>then okay, it's time for the boys to start fighting now.

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<v Speaker 1>I want the boys to be dramatic. I'm like, why

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<v Speaker 1>are your friends? And this is weird to me for long?

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<v Speaker 1>This is about to get very survivor.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, ship great excited? Wait, oh my god, me

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<v Speaker 3>neither and there might be one more. Kennedy's right in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Where I'm expecting several. I'm expecting, my girl.

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<v Speaker 5>You've been very tame so far, like you've been very

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<v Speaker 5>very polite, like you've been reminding them who you are. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>but you haven't really gone off yet, and so I'm

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<v Speaker 5>waiting for the explosion and just say that's a.

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<v Speaker 3>Little betrayal happening soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Oh, thank you, thank you. Let me need

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<v Speaker 2>some villainy and husi villains. Really, I love that amazing. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you again, Candy. When we come back, we'll be

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<v Speaker 2>chatting with Oscar Enya from New York's Poppy Juice night

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<v Speaker 2>life and art collective, and we'll be talking to him

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<v Speaker 2>about cruising, party planning and the very high stakes of

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<v Speaker 2>creating inclusive community in these tumultuous times.

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<v Speaker 1>So don't go anywhere, we'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 5>Our next guest is New York DJ artists and party

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<v Speaker 5>organizer Oscar Ye. He started a highly celebrated party and

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<v Speaker 5>art collective, Poppy Juice. Poppy Juice is a gender inclusive

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<v Speaker 5>New York circuit party that's been centering queer POC folks

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<v Speaker 5>since twenty thirteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Oscar is here to teach us what he's learning during

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<v Speaker 2>his eleven years being a community organizer and heading a

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<v Speaker 2>liberatory art collective. We're also going to talk about how

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<v Speaker 2>folks who aren't in New York City can create their

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<v Speaker 2>own core spaces. So welcome to Sniffy's Cruising Confessions, Oscar,

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<v Speaker 2>and are you doing, Oscar?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like so happy to be here. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>having me so, Oscar.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm curious for viewers who have never heard of Bobby Juice,

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<v Speaker 2>how would you describe it?

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<v Speaker 7>Bobby Juice is an art collective and you know, it's

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<v Speaker 7>consisted of three members, me and Mohammad and Adam Muhammad

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<v Speaker 7>is the resident illustrator and art director, and then Adam

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<v Speaker 7>and I are resident DJs and the co founders, and

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<v Speaker 7>we've been working together for the last eleven years. Our

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<v Speaker 7>mission is to celebrate the lives of queer entrance people

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<v Speaker 7>of color, and we do so by creating these like

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<v Speaker 7>legendary kind of like night parties and different activations. We

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<v Speaker 7>always try to make it feel joyful and celebratory.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever found a fling or romance at one

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<v Speaker 2>of your own events? Who's this guest?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>A lot?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, Okay, I'm actually like a little shy, but you know,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm a sexy little DJ.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, There's definitely been moments where I'm like, oh, this

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<v Speaker 7>boy's cute. It's usually like I'll follow them on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 7>After the night is like it would be really sexy,

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<v Speaker 7>but I'm working.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I'm working. But the next night though, that's when, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>or at the afters.

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<v Speaker 5>After the after yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The after's invite is such a great like flirtation icebreaker.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, hey, you're conveying that you want to see

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<v Speaker 2>more of this person. You're inviting them to an event later.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a cube move. I like, yeah, it's very good.

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<v Speaker 2>I moved here in twenty twelve, so Poppy Juice from

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<v Speaker 2>twenty thirteen months old now has obviously grown so much.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, what do you think accounts for that? Do

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<v Speaker 2>you think it's a need for more spaces like that

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<v Speaker 2>or I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think it's like a couple of things.

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<v Speaker 7>We're part of a long lineage of QTPoC centered spaces

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<v Speaker 7>in New York City.

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<v Speaker 1>There's been a history.

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<v Speaker 7>Of that where queer people, queer people of color come

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<v Speaker 7>together and make their chosen families, meet their friends, meet

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<v Speaker 7>their lovers. I guess like I kind of accounted to

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<v Speaker 7>the need for the spaces, but also people love consistency.

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<v Speaker 7>In New York, everything changes so quickly and so rapidly.

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<v Speaker 7>The fact that we've been able to hang on to

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<v Speaker 7>each other at least with like my co members. People

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<v Speaker 7>see that and like enjoy seeing that. Also it's a

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<v Speaker 7>good party, you know, like.

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<v Speaker 2>I know when the music's good and the crowd is cute,

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<v Speaker 2>and that also helps.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right, it's like you're definitely meeting a need.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I don't I don't think there were

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of collectives doing stuff like that when I

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<v Speaker 2>first moved here, at least not in my memory. And

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<v Speaker 2>so it is cool to see not just Poppy Juice grow,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, I think of other parties like body

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<v Speaker 2>Hack and bubble Tea, like there really is such a

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<v Speaker 2>broad assortment of different parties that help elevate different parts

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<v Speaker 2>of the qtpot community.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know, it's exciting to see exciting.

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<v Speaker 5>Did you find a lot of folks were giving you

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<v Speaker 5>push back when you started to create the space.

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<v Speaker 7>I remember we were based out of this like tiny

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<v Speaker 7>bar in Bedstide. Somebody had said was like aspar as

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<v Speaker 7>like racist. Somebody felt like really alienated from the night.

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<v Speaker 7>Other Wise, like from different venue owners, people would be like, oh,

0:30:08.000 --> 0:30:11.360
<v Speaker 7>I don't know, your party sounds super niche, you don't

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<v Speaker 7>really belong in night life. I don't think you could

0:30:13.520 --> 0:30:16.440
<v Speaker 7>fill out a space. It came from all sorts of

0:30:16.440 --> 0:30:20.080
<v Speaker 7>different directions. People forget the importance of nightlight spaces. People

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<v Speaker 7>love showing up and supporting these types of initiatives because

0:30:24.440 --> 0:30:26.800
<v Speaker 7>it is a really important space for us to socialize,

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<v Speaker 7>to meet others, to have sex, to you know, do

0:30:30.720 --> 0:30:32.840
<v Speaker 7>like be inspired, create art, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, flirt in multiple languages. I was like, I've never

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<v Speaker 2>been to a party before where someone's hit on me

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<v Speaker 2>in Spanish.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, and I did it right back. It's great, Yeah,

0:30:48.200 --> 0:30:49.480
<v Speaker 1>but it does right. It helps.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like it feels different, the vibe is different, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't think it's in an exclusive way,

0:30:53.520 --> 0:30:55.400
<v Speaker 2>but right it's like, hey, we're here to elevate this,

0:30:55.480 --> 0:30:57.280
<v Speaker 2>but all are welcome. And I feel like that's always

0:30:57.320 --> 0:30:59.000
<v Speaker 2>kind of how it has been. I have a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of my like white not Latino friends will be like

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<v Speaker 2>can I go. I'm like, yeah, like, just don't be rude,

0:31:05.520 --> 0:31:06.840
<v Speaker 2>right and understand who is four?

0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:09.360
<v Speaker 1>But like, yeah, of course, Like we get that question

0:31:09.400 --> 0:31:09.840
<v Speaker 1>all the time.

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<v Speaker 7>It's like, oh, like my boyfriend's white, or like my

0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:14.200
<v Speaker 7>best friend is white can they come, And I'm like

0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:16.560
<v Speaker 7>up to you and up to them to decide. Don't

0:31:16.600 --> 0:31:20.719
<v Speaker 7>place the burden of that conversation on black and brown folks,

0:31:20.760 --> 0:31:23.120
<v Speaker 7>like have it with yourselves. Usually most of the time

0:31:23.160 --> 0:31:24.760
<v Speaker 7>they do end up coming, and they do end up

0:31:24.760 --> 0:31:27.479
<v Speaker 7>having a blast, and it's usually someone that you know,

0:31:27.560 --> 0:31:30.880
<v Speaker 7>they understand how to navigate the space and the importance

0:31:30.880 --> 0:31:33.240
<v Speaker 7>of the space to others. So there's like this sec

0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:37.520
<v Speaker 7>intentionality and consciousness around how you're experiencing the space.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's like our driving force.

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<v Speaker 7>Actually, like we kind of realized like we were immediately

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<v Speaker 7>dubbed like a safe space, and then we immediately kind

0:31:44.360 --> 0:31:48.000
<v Speaker 7>of realize like, oh, like interestingly, as much as we try,

0:31:48.080 --> 0:31:51.320
<v Speaker 7>we cannot guarantee the safety of seventy people in a room,

0:31:51.440 --> 0:31:53.240
<v Speaker 7>you know, and that's how big the parties were at

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<v Speaker 7>the time. Then we were like, what is another way

0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:58.760
<v Speaker 7>that we want to make people understand what our intentions are,

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<v Speaker 7>What are we trying to create, how we trying to

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<v Speaker 7>make people feel, what are we trying to have them experience,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, And so then we kind of switched our

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<v Speaker 7>framing of what we were working on and what we

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<v Speaker 7>were doing as intentional rather than safe.

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<v Speaker 2>I know there's a lot of talk right now if

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<v Speaker 2>people needing to find ways to take care of each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think that nightlife and throwing events can be

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<v Speaker 2>a form of care within community?

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely.

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<v Speaker 7>Historically nightlife spaces have been the sort of havens for

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<v Speaker 7>current trans people of color, and I think.

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<v Speaker 1>It will keep being that.

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<v Speaker 7>We might have to be a little bit more careful

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<v Speaker 7>in some ways and making sure that you know, we're

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<v Speaker 7>gathering in spaces that feel supportive and that feel like

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<v Speaker 7>can support us as well. But that reminds me of this,

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<v Speaker 7>like time Out probably just said it was right after

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<v Speaker 7>the Traven Martin verdict.

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<v Speaker 1>We were all so sad.

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<v Speaker 7>We almost were like, should we cancel like our communities

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<v Speaker 7>like deep in mourning right now. We thought about it

0:32:59.160 --> 0:33:02.200
<v Speaker 7>and we were like, we'll have the space. If people

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<v Speaker 7>want to show up and can show up, it'll be

0:33:04.360 --> 0:33:07.680
<v Speaker 7>there for them. And then it ended up being for

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<v Speaker 7>me one of like the most memorable and sort of

0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:17.000
<v Speaker 7>grounding moments in our history where people came and we're

0:33:17.000 --> 0:33:19.800
<v Speaker 7>so thankful of the space and we're so excited to

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<v Speaker 7>be there, and we're like, you know what, thank you

0:33:21.800 --> 0:33:25.160
<v Speaker 7>for holding this Like I didn't think that I would

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<v Speaker 7>have it in me to be around people, but it

0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:29.920
<v Speaker 7>ended up being that I needed to be around people

0:33:30.120 --> 0:33:32.200
<v Speaker 7>and to like talk about it and to think about

0:33:32.240 --> 0:33:35.680
<v Speaker 7>this and also strategize about what's coming next, you know,

0:33:35.840 --> 0:33:38.760
<v Speaker 7>feel a little bit of joy, feel a little relief, release,

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<v Speaker 7>So all of these like little things are important. As

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<v Speaker 7>much as the fight is important, I think to have

0:33:44.480 --> 0:33:49.920
<v Speaker 7>those moments of whether it is rest, release, community, what love, sex,

0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:52.520
<v Speaker 7>whatever it is, it's important to also have those moments.

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<v Speaker 7>We can't just be on a fight and then on

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<v Speaker 7>the offensive for the next four years.

0:33:56.800 --> 0:33:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>What advice do you have for folks who are thinking

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<v Speaker 5>about creating their own spaces.

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<v Speaker 7>Like Poppy Chews, you know, thinking about scale, It could

0:34:04.200 --> 0:34:07.920
<v Speaker 7>be really important depending on where you're at. So maybe

0:34:08.040 --> 0:34:10.720
<v Speaker 7>at first it won't be like a big warehouse party.

0:34:10.800 --> 0:34:13.840
<v Speaker 7>Maybe it's just like a gathering at a friend's living room,

0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:17.239
<v Speaker 7>you know, and it's like the circle of friends that

0:34:17.320 --> 0:34:20.320
<v Speaker 7>you know, invite them, tell them to invite one friend

0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:23.120
<v Speaker 7>and then have them gathering there and then see what happens,

0:34:23.239 --> 0:34:26.200
<v Speaker 7>how it goes. And then also just like there's probably

0:34:26.239 --> 0:34:29.160
<v Speaker 7>something that's out there, you know, for you, it could

0:34:29.160 --> 0:34:31.640
<v Speaker 7>be interesting to go check it out, support it, maybe

0:34:31.640 --> 0:34:34.240
<v Speaker 7>like talk to the people that go there, the people

0:34:34.239 --> 0:34:37.560
<v Speaker 7>that organize it, and see how they started, because they'll

0:34:37.600 --> 0:34:40.920
<v Speaker 7>be definitely more knowledgeable, more knowledgeable than I am in

0:34:40.960 --> 0:34:42.600
<v Speaker 7>the context of where you're living, you.

0:34:42.560 --> 0:34:43.440
<v Speaker 1>Know, now, ask her.

0:34:43.480 --> 0:34:45.640
<v Speaker 2>A lot of our viewers may also be worried about

0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:48.000
<v Speaker 2>heading home for the holidays to see their families. I'm

0:34:48.040 --> 0:34:50.360
<v Speaker 2>curious if you have any ideas for folks to be

0:34:50.440 --> 0:34:53.160
<v Speaker 2>able to stay safe and sane during the holiday season.

0:34:53.239 --> 0:34:55.359
<v Speaker 7>I love my mom so much, and so it is

0:34:55.400 --> 0:34:58.360
<v Speaker 7>so important for me to spend time with her, and

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<v Speaker 7>so I prioritize that I know, so that in the

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<v Speaker 7>mornings I can get to spend time with her alone

0:35:03.920 --> 0:35:06.239
<v Speaker 7>and we make breakfast together, and she like tells me

0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:08.160
<v Speaker 7>all like the stories that she wants to tell me.

0:35:08.600 --> 0:35:09.680
<v Speaker 1>And that's like what.

0:35:09.600 --> 0:35:13.360
<v Speaker 7>I want for my time at home for the holidays

0:35:13.600 --> 0:35:15.880
<v Speaker 7>is to have these memories with my mom. There's like

0:35:15.960 --> 0:35:18.080
<v Speaker 7>other things that are annoying and that are hard, But

0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:20.160
<v Speaker 7>as long as I get those moments, like, I know

0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:23.000
<v Speaker 7>that I'll be good and then just like whatever helps

0:35:23.040 --> 0:35:24.280
<v Speaker 7>you like remain patient.

0:35:24.560 --> 0:35:27.080
<v Speaker 1>Like lately, I've been doing a lot of meditation. That

0:35:27.120 --> 0:35:29.880
<v Speaker 1>shit rocks so good.

0:35:30.320 --> 0:35:33.120
<v Speaker 7>I also, you know, love a little drink, and so

0:35:33.400 --> 0:35:35.279
<v Speaker 7>maybe like when my mom goes to bed, I'll have

0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:37.400
<v Speaker 7>like a little bit of wine or something with my

0:35:37.480 --> 0:35:39.880
<v Speaker 7>brother or like my siblings. You know, we've all had

0:35:39.880 --> 0:35:42.600
<v Speaker 7>difficult moments at this point in our lives, and there

0:35:42.680 --> 0:35:45.160
<v Speaker 7>are ways that we know that work for each of us. Right,

0:35:45.480 --> 0:35:47.640
<v Speaker 7>we just got to like remember them and tune into

0:35:47.680 --> 0:35:48.520
<v Speaker 7>them totally.

0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:49.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:35:49.480 --> 0:35:49.840
<v Speaker 2>I like that.

0:35:49.840 --> 0:35:50.760
<v Speaker 1>What a wholesome response.

0:35:50.800 --> 0:35:53.880
<v Speaker 2>After me, Chris and Candy spent all of today be like,

0:35:54.040 --> 0:35:55.600
<v Speaker 2>so how do you look for Dick while you're hanging

0:35:55.600 --> 0:35:58.000
<v Speaker 2>out with mom? Now you're like, actually, I love my

0:35:58.040 --> 0:36:00.000
<v Speaker 2>mom spending nobody.

0:36:00.200 --> 0:36:02.239
<v Speaker 1>That's a really good point, right, Like also, yeah, look

0:36:02.280 --> 0:36:04.360
<v Speaker 1>for ye that.

0:36:07.920 --> 0:36:10.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, after my mom has watched her Turkish Showupes on

0:36:10.160 --> 0:36:12.279
<v Speaker 2>Netflix and we've had a glass of wine, then I.

0:36:12.320 --> 0:36:13.920
<v Speaker 1>Go out, Yeah exactly.

0:36:14.080 --> 0:36:16.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I'm curious where can folks find you and

0:36:16.400 --> 0:36:19.359
<v Speaker 2>Poppy Juice online and learn about the next party coming up?

0:36:19.440 --> 0:36:22.200
<v Speaker 7>The best place to follow anything Poppy related is on

0:36:22.239 --> 0:36:25.359
<v Speaker 7>our instagram, so it's just Poppy Juice BK. And then

0:36:25.480 --> 0:36:27.000
<v Speaker 7>my personal instagram is Oscar and.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, after the break Gabe's gonna be stepping out

0:36:29.680 --> 0:36:31.920
<v Speaker 5>into the town to hear some hot and horrific holiday

0:36:31.920 --> 0:36:32.680
<v Speaker 5>hookup story.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I can't wait, ye, I can't wait to share it.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to Sniffy's Cruising Confessions. Thanks for sticking around

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<v Speaker 2>with us.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>If you thought New York days were a mess during Pride,

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<v Speaker 2>buckle the fuck up, because it is truly nothing compared

0:36:51.120 --> 0:36:54.400
<v Speaker 2>to the night before Thanksgiving. All over the city I

0:36:54.480 --> 0:36:57.560
<v Speaker 2>call home, horny homos have been flooding night spots looking

0:36:57.560 --> 0:36:58.000
<v Speaker 2>for some fun.

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<v Speaker 5>So on November twenty seventh, the night before k pettit

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<v Speaker 5>to our favorite Brooklyn hotspot, Animal, which is a place

0:37:04.040 --> 0:37:07.200
<v Speaker 5>that we're all deeply thankful for this season, deeply deeply.

0:37:07.400 --> 0:37:08.040
<v Speaker 1>Let's take a look.

0:37:09.120 --> 0:37:11.800
<v Speaker 2>It is Thanksgiving Eve and we are camped out at Animal,

0:37:12.000 --> 0:37:13.960
<v Speaker 2>a bar in Brooklyn, New York, where we're gonna be

0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:16.719
<v Speaker 2>asking guests about their holiday hookup stories and how they

0:37:16.800 --> 0:37:19.080
<v Speaker 2>navigate cruising while they're home for the holidays. Let's see

0:37:19.160 --> 0:37:21.480
<v Speaker 2>these sluts are up to. I'm curious. As a bartender,

0:37:21.480 --> 0:37:23.279
<v Speaker 2>I feel like you might have unique insight. What do

0:37:23.320 --> 0:37:26.480
<v Speaker 2>you think makes the night before Thanksgiving particularly chaotic?

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<v Speaker 9>Everybody being home everyone anticipating eating good tomorrow one blue

0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:34.200
<v Speaker 9>sennup before seeing their family the next day. If they're

0:37:34.239 --> 0:37:36.640
<v Speaker 9>doing that or just straight up partying because they're not

0:37:36.680 --> 0:37:38.800
<v Speaker 9>going home and they're just with their friends.

0:37:38.719 --> 0:37:39.080
<v Speaker 1>That's me.

0:37:39.800 --> 0:37:42.439
<v Speaker 10>I think that if people are like planning on going

0:37:42.480 --> 0:37:44.760
<v Speaker 10>home and seeing family, there's probably a lot of stress

0:37:44.920 --> 0:37:48.040
<v Speaker 10>that surrounds that subject. I think it's especially difficult to

0:37:48.080 --> 0:37:50.480
<v Speaker 10>facer family, so people are probably trying to let loose

0:37:50.480 --> 0:37:50.960
<v Speaker 10>a little bit.

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<v Speaker 11>Everyone's not doing anything for two days, like they have

0:37:53.560 --> 0:37:56.160
<v Speaker 11>an extra you know, weekend whatever, and you know, gays

0:37:56.160 --> 0:37:58.960
<v Speaker 11>in a weekend like and go. I also think that

0:37:59.080 --> 0:38:01.600
<v Speaker 11>like some people have some demons and like that's fine,

0:38:01.640 --> 0:38:04.000
<v Speaker 11>and then they kind of let it out and everyone

0:38:04.120 --> 0:38:06.880
<v Speaker 11>kind of latches onto the energy and it's it's cute.

0:38:06.680 --> 0:38:09.760
<v Speaker 1>You know night when we can all be demon twinks.

0:38:09.760 --> 0:38:10.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm so excited.

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<v Speaker 4>I find that Thanksgiving, even New York, it is never

0:38:13.200 --> 0:38:14.719
<v Speaker 4>as chaotic as you would expect it to be.

0:38:16.440 --> 0:38:17.480
<v Speaker 3>Coming from the suburbs.

0:38:17.520 --> 0:38:20.279
<v Speaker 4>Like that's what the girls where they fucking pop off

0:38:20.480 --> 0:38:24.359
<v Speaker 4>blackout Wednesday as everyone returning to their hometowns, anyone left

0:38:24.400 --> 0:38:25.960
<v Speaker 4>over in New York, like they're gonna come out.

0:38:25.840 --> 0:38:28.080
<v Speaker 2>What has been your go to excuse for dipping out

0:38:28.120 --> 0:38:30.239
<v Speaker 2>of family events to go hook up with someone else?

0:38:31.560 --> 0:38:33.720
<v Speaker 6>You know, you always have to run to get ice cream,

0:38:33.960 --> 0:38:37.560
<v Speaker 6>like a mcflurry and some mcdag.

0:38:37.840 --> 0:38:41.160
<v Speaker 9>You know, Oh, I'm going to visit my old friends

0:38:41.200 --> 0:38:42.680
<v Speaker 9>and going over to Alicia's house.

0:38:42.880 --> 0:38:45.120
<v Speaker 11>I'm going out to Tim Morton's and like stealing her

0:38:45.200 --> 0:38:47.080
<v Speaker 11>car to like suck someone off in the back seats.

0:38:47.080 --> 0:38:48.640
<v Speaker 12>A friend of mine is like having a hard time

0:38:48.680 --> 0:38:50.520
<v Speaker 12>with the holidays, kind of barrow the car.

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<v Speaker 2>Almost everyone we've interviewed tonight has said they use a

0:38:53.160 --> 0:38:55.600
<v Speaker 2>friend as an excuse. But you're the first person to

0:38:55.640 --> 0:38:58.040
<v Speaker 2>give me the emotional appeal, right You're like, not only

0:38:58.040 --> 0:38:59.600
<v Speaker 2>do I have a friend I'm hanging out with, they're

0:38:59.600 --> 0:39:02.520
<v Speaker 2>going through a hard time, so I've got to be there.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, what is my dad gonna say? I'm like, hey,

0:39:05.000 --> 0:39:07.840
<v Speaker 12>like Carrie's really going through right now. Like I'm just

0:39:07.840 --> 0:39:09.240
<v Speaker 12>gonna go Meeter at the restaurant reallyquick.

0:39:09.400 --> 0:39:12.040
<v Speaker 2>No, have you ever hooked up like in your family home?

0:39:12.120 --> 0:39:14.160
<v Speaker 2>Is that something a ligne you would cross?

0:39:14.719 --> 0:39:14.959
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:39:15.120 --> 0:39:16.960
<v Speaker 1>What do you mean a line I would cross? That's

0:39:17.000 --> 0:39:17.319
<v Speaker 1>my home.

0:39:18.200 --> 0:39:20.319
<v Speaker 3>If I'm not crossing a line that's my home.

0:39:20.600 --> 0:39:22.479
<v Speaker 6>I woke up one morning guy messed mess and FIE's

0:39:22.600 --> 0:39:25.239
<v Speaker 6>was like, my son's at school, you should come over,

0:39:25.480 --> 0:39:29.319
<v Speaker 6>and I'm sort of like cool. Yeah. Uh So I

0:39:29.400 --> 0:39:31.600
<v Speaker 6>ended up like going to his house, like there's like

0:39:31.719 --> 0:39:34.120
<v Speaker 6>toys all over the place. He's like, my wife divorced

0:39:34.120 --> 0:39:36.080
<v Speaker 6>me like three months ago, and I just want to

0:39:36.080 --> 0:39:39.439
<v Speaker 6>get railed right now.

0:39:40.080 --> 0:39:43.080
<v Speaker 12>Snuck out, met him in a Walmart parking lot and

0:39:43.440 --> 0:39:45.120
<v Speaker 12>I slammed him right there.

0:39:45.440 --> 0:39:49.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean I'll slam as something else. I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:39:49.560 --> 0:39:52.000
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it exactly. It's not

0:39:52.040 --> 0:39:55.000
<v Speaker 1>a drug reference. It was a fucking reference. We're talking

0:39:55.000 --> 0:39:57.880
<v Speaker 1>about penetration here, Okay. Which level of cousin is the

0:39:57.920 --> 0:40:00.000
<v Speaker 1>most okay to hook up with? For second or third? Cousin?

0:40:00.400 --> 0:40:01.840
<v Speaker 1>Second ones removed or third?

0:40:02.080 --> 0:40:04.760
<v Speaker 12>I from Texas, So cousin fucking is on the table,

0:40:04.920 --> 0:40:06.520
<v Speaker 12>not that I've thought about it, but maybe second.

0:40:06.760 --> 0:40:07.040
<v Speaker 9>Okay.

0:40:07.719 --> 0:40:10.600
<v Speaker 1>I have a huge family, so I'm gonna say to third. Okay, Yeah,

0:40:10.719 --> 0:40:11.520
<v Speaker 1>see me too.

0:40:11.719 --> 0:40:13.560
<v Speaker 3>As far removed as moss. Yeah, that's weird.

0:40:13.760 --> 0:40:16.040
<v Speaker 2>Before you go, what is one last piece of advice

0:40:16.280 --> 0:40:17.919
<v Speaker 2>or message you would like to give to people watching

0:40:17.960 --> 0:40:19.200
<v Speaker 2>during the holidays.

0:40:20.040 --> 0:40:23.200
<v Speaker 1>Put yourself verse, try not to hold on to everything.

0:40:23.440 --> 0:40:27.319
<v Speaker 12>Just remember the time keeps moving, and as long as

0:40:27.360 --> 0:40:30.040
<v Speaker 12>you stay present in the moment and you let everything

0:40:30.120 --> 0:40:32.239
<v Speaker 12>rush over you, you won't be so overwhelmed.

0:40:32.680 --> 0:40:35.440
<v Speaker 11>Find your inner demon, twink and let loose I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean, embrace it all.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, for a long time I thought that I

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<v Speaker 6>was weird and didn't fit in this community. But it

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<v Speaker 6>turns out everyone has place, so own that space and

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<v Speaker 6>like live your life.

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<v Speaker 9>I think gratitude goes a long way, and we could

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<v Speaker 9>all go to show each other and especially like in

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<v Speaker 9>among queer spaces, we can go to be a little

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<v Speaker 9>more grateful towards each other. We all kind of need

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<v Speaker 9>to hear it.

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<v Speaker 2>Josh, that's really great advice. I thought you were gonna say,

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<v Speaker 2>be grateful and spread your whole.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that was wild. What did you think today?

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<v Speaker 4>Do?

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<v Speaker 2>All?

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<v Speaker 6>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you did?

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<v Speaker 1>Fantastic?

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<v Speaker 5>My largest takeaway I think from that segment is the

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<v Speaker 5>amount of people that would sleep with their family.

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