1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: The Michael Arry Joe. What we're going to do next 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: is actually take some questions. 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 2: And I remember one of my favorite things about Charlie 4 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 2: not that there aren't going to be some questioners who 5 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 2: agree with me, But if you disagree with me, I 6 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 2: would ask that you come to the front of the line. 7 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 2: Because we want to talk to people we agree with, 8 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 2: we also want to hear from people we disagree with. 9 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: It is hard for me to. 10 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 2: See because the spotlights are very bright, but whoever's in line, 11 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 2: go ahead and ask your question. 12 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: Oh there we go. Okay, now I can see you. 13 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: How you doing. 14 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 3: I'm a sur vice president. 15 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being here. 16 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,279 Speaker 4: My name is Lucy and I'm Ellie and we're with 17 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 4: the Turning Point chapter for this question. 18 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: Thank you guys. 19 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 5: Yes, can you tell us how your faith helps you 20 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 5: in your role as vice president? 21 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate that that is a very good question. 22 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 2: And if this is another way in which Charlie has 23 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 2: affected my life, I would say that I grew up 24 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 2: again in a generation where even if people had very 25 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: deep personal faith, they didn't talk about their faith a 26 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: whole lot. And I grew up in a country where 27 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: you just didn't hear political leaders talk about their faith. 28 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 2: But the reason why I try to be the best 29 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 2: husband I can be, the best father I can be. 30 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 2: The reason why I care so much about all the 31 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 2: issues that we're going to talk about is because I 32 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 2: believe that I've been placed in this position for a 33 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 2: brief period of time to do the most amount of 34 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 2: good for God and for the country that I love 35 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 2: so much. And that's the most important way that my 36 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 2: faith influences me is we all get a limited opportunity 37 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 2: to make a difference. And if you believe as we believe, 38 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 2: you believe the God. You believe that Jesus Christ has 39 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 2: a plan. And sometimes we don't understand that plan. By 40 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 2: the way, one way I don't understand that plan is 41 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: why my friend lost his life six weeks ago. Sometimes 42 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 2: I get pissed off about that, But what I remind 43 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 2: myself is that there is a deeper rhythm that Jesus 44 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 2: Christ is the author of the fate of human history, 45 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 2: and we are charged to do everything that we can 46 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: to effectuate that vision, to make our country a more 47 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 2: virtuous place, a more prosperous place where people can raise 48 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 2: a family and not be persecuted for their faith, but 49 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 2: teach their children. 50 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: Their faith that recognition that all of us have a duty. 51 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 2: And I have two very important duties as Vice President 52 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 2: the United States, to the American people and to God. 53 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 2: And that's the most important influence my faith has on me. 54 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: Thank you. 55 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 4: I understand your view on illegal immigration, as it should 56 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 4: be a top priority strengthening our southern borders and finding 57 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 4: the massive drug trafficking that's taken place while securing jobs 58 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 4: for the working class Americans, also deporting every single person 59 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 4: who's invaded our country illegally, which I one d percent 60 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 4: agree on. My question to you is what is your 61 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 4: view on legal immigration? Personally, I have a girlfriend who's 62 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 4: studying in America off of visa. Our hope is eventually 63 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 4: getting a green card. So what is your view on 64 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 4: legal immigration should we reduce it? Also, what is your 65 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 4: plan for a merit based system? 66 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 2: Yes, sir well, I appreciate the question, And look, my 67 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 2: honest view is that right now America, thanks in part 68 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 2: to the Biden border invasion, but also thanks in part 69 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 2: to a lot of bad immigration policy, right now, we 70 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 2: have led in too many immigrants into the United States 71 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 2: of America. That is just a fundamental reality now. Now, look, 72 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 2: legal immigration is complicated because we let in about a 73 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,119 Speaker 2: million legal immigrants into the United States of America every 74 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 2: single year, and I think the evidence is pretty clear 75 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: that a lot of those immigrants are actually undercutting the 76 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 2: wages of American workers. It's one of the reasons why 77 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: the President of the United States, it's one of the 78 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 2: reason why the President of the United States and a 79 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 2: lot of us in the administration have encouraged H one 80 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 2: B reform because if you look at the H one 81 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 2: B visa, what it's supposed to be. What it's supposed 82 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 2: to be is that you have a super genius who's 83 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 2: studying at an American university, who's working at a great company. 84 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 2: You want that super genius is to stay in the 85 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 2: United States of America and not go somewhere else. What 86 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 2: it's actually used to do is hire an accountant at 87 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: a fifty percent discount to an American citizen. I don't 88 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 2: think that we should be hiring accountants from foreign countries 89 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 2: when we've got accountants right here in the United States 90 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 2: that would love to work for a good wage. Now, 91 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 2: you asked about I think your girlfriend, you said, and 92 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 2: I obviously don't know the full details about your situation. 93 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: But my view is, Look, there are people who want 94 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: to come to the United States of America, and some 95 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 2: of them, I'm sure, can enrich the United States of 96 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 2: America by coming here. But we have got to get 97 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 2: our overall numbers way way down. Too many people have 98 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 2: come into the United States of America. I am married 99 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 2: to the daughter of immigrants who came to the United 100 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 2: States in the nineteen eighties. I do believe that some immigrants, 101 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 2: many immigrants, do in fact enrich the United States of America. 102 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 2: But here's the problem. We don't even know how many 103 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 2: illegal aliens we have. We don't even know. The best 104 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 2: guess is probably twenty five thirty million people. I've heard 105 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 2: estimates as high as fifty million. When something like that happens, 106 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 2: you've got to allow your own society to cohere a 107 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 2: little bit, to build a sense of common identity, for 108 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 2: all the newcomers, to assimilate the ones who are going 109 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 2: to stay, to assimilate into American culture. Until you do that, 110 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 2: you've got to be careful about any additional immigration. 111 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:36,559 Speaker 1: In my view, Thank you, So you hello. 112 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 5: I have a question about Israel and Trump's policy towards it. 113 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 5: Do you think it's a conflict of interest for Miriam Addelson, 114 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 5: an Israeli donor, to give millions of dollars to his 115 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 5: campaign and then Trump have pro Israeli policies. 116 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: Well, if you're asking, do I think the prosi of 117 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 2: the United States has a conflict of interests, No, I 118 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 2: do not, because I know how the President States makes 119 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 2: his decisions and I see it behind the scenes. Now, 120 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 2: as the President himself has said, Mary Madelson, who by 121 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 2: the way, I know and I have a very good 122 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 2: relationship with her, she is very clear about the fact 123 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 2: she doesn't hide the fact that she really loves Israel, 124 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 2: and that is part of what motivates her political giving. 125 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 2: That is a reality. At the same time, the President 126 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 2: of the United States is America first, through and through. 127 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 2: And let me give you just a couple of examples 128 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 2: of this. Number one, we have heard from some pro 129 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 2: Israel voices, some people who really love the state of Israel, 130 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 2: that they don't want us to have a relationship with 131 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 2: certain Middle Eastern countries. Well, the President's attitude is, we 132 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 2: need to build relationships with any country where we have 133 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 2: shared interests, and he's going to do it if it's 134 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 2: in the interests of the American people, and he's done 135 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 2: exactly that. I am super in bed with Palateer. And 136 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 2: here's the thing I'd say about this. Pallenteer is a 137 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 2: private company. They sometimes do a useful service, and sometimes 138 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 2: they're going to do things that we don't like. You 139 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 2: should be demanding that your representatives do two things when 140 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 2: it comes to palace Tier or when it comes to 141 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 2: any other technology company. Number One, protecting your data. What's 142 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 2: going on with artificial intelligence is going to mean that 143 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 2: there are massive inducements to seal your data, to harvest it, 144 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 2: and to use it against you to sell digital advertisements. 145 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 2: That is not what I believe in, and I've been 146 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 2: fighting against it, whether it's Palenteer or any other technology company. 147 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: Literally before I ran for office. 148 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 2: When I ran for office, I was criticized by Republicans 149 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 2: in my Republican Senate primary because I was talking then 150 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 2: about Google and Facebook harvesting our data. It's unacceptable. I 151 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 2: don't care who does it, I don't want them to 152 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 2: do it. Number Two, and this is also very important, 153 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 2: what's going on with artificial intelligence. 154 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: We got to be. 155 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 2: Worried about large scale surveillance, Okay, everything when you asked 156 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 2: about palenteer. 157 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: Do you know that every time you. 158 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 2: Make a credit card transaction, the credit card companies are 159 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 2: collecting data on how you spend your money. Do you 160 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 2: know that every time you linger over a link on 161 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 2: the for more than a half second, the search engines 162 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 2: are collecting data on you so that they can sell 163 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 2: you advertisements. One of the biggest questions for American policy 164 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 2: over the next ten years is how to ensure that 165 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 2: you are a sovereign citizen and you cannot be a 166 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 2: sovereign citizen if any private corporation or any government can 167 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 2: steal something from you that belongs to you. 168 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: Sir, Thank you, Thank you. 169 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 6: Vice President A. D. Bants good evening, Thank you. Question 170 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 6: is the Republican Party. They stand for the right to 171 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 6: bear arms. A lot of things to Founding Fathers really 172 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 6: made a priority. Sure, and I feel as if requiring 173 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 6: Christianity in public schools goes against the Founding Father's wish 174 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 6: of freedom of religion. 175 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: What do you think about that? 176 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 2: Well, I guess who is saying that we require Christianity 177 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 2: in public schools. 178 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 6: Just from what I've I've seen on the media and 179 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 6: the news, it seems like the Trump administration had wanted 180 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 6: to make praying in schools and Christian values incorporated. 181 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 2: Well, look, I think Christian values are a good thing, 182 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 2: and I'll talk to you about why I think that's 183 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 2: a good thing. But that's separate from forcing people to pray, 184 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 2: which I don't think that anybody, certainly no Christian that 185 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 2: I know, wouldever support or ever endorse. And let me 186 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 2: just say something generally about all the people I see. 187 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 2: There's a big line, and I hope I can get 188 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:32,599 Speaker 2: to everybody's question. I remember when I was a sophomore 189 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 2: in high school, I went to an event at my 190 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 2: church which was a book signing with Oliver North and 191 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 2: Sean Hannity, the Fox News host. And this was back 192 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 2: before I mean, this was I guess twenty five years ago, 193 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 2: and so neither of. 194 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: These guys was maybe as big as they are today. 195 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 2: And I remember standing in line and I'm about to 196 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 2: say hello to Oliver North and Sean Hannity, and I 197 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 2: remember thinking to. 198 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: Myself, I was so nervous. 199 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 2: All I need to do is shake my hand or 200 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 2: shake their hand, give them a firm handshake, and tell 201 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 2: them my name. That's what I'm thinking, firm handshake, telling 202 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 2: my name, firm handshake, telling my name, and I get 203 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 2: to the front of the line and Sean Hannity looks 204 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 2: at me and he says, how are you doing? And 205 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 2: I totally panic and I go uh JD because I 206 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 2: had rehearsed, shaken and saying my name. My point is 207 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 2: I admire your guy's courage, and please don't be nervous. 208 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 2: If you need to work through a question, think about it, 209 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 2: speak it. We're all here to have a nice conversation, 210 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 2: and we're all supportive of it. 211 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: Here here's the thing. 212 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 2: When you talk about forcing me to answer your question, 213 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 2: a forcing Christianity, forcing people to pray, there's a real 214 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 2: there's a liberal idea out there that I think is wrong, 215 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 2: and that's that liberalism is the source of freedom of religion. 216 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 2: And actually, if you go back to the original founding 217 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 2: documents of the United States of America, if you go 218 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 2: back to the Anglo legal tradition, well before there was 219 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 2: every United States of America, what you find is that 220 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 2: freedom of religion is actually a Christian concept. 221 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: And the reason. 222 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 2: And the reason it's a Christian concept is very simple 223 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 2: because Christianity in Mago day, the idea that. 224 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: We are all made in the image of our creator. 225 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 2: Means that we must respect the free will of every 226 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 2: single person. 227 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: Now, part of that is you have a conversation with people. 228 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 2: Having free will doesn't mean that you're not allowed to 229 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 2: encourage somebody, that you're not allowed to talk to somebody 230 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 2: about your faith, that you're not allowed to talk about 231 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 2: certain values in school. When our founders talked about freedom 232 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 2: of religion, they didn't mean you weren't allowed to say 233 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 2: a Christian prayer in a public school, or that you 234 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 2: weren't allowed to talk about Jesus Christ in a public forum. 235 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,239 Speaker 1: They just meant that nobody could. 236 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 2: Force you to profess the Christian faith that had to 237 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 2: come from your own free will. And I believe that, 238 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 2: and I think every Christian who I've ever spoken to 239 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 2: believes that the source is the Christian The source of 240 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 2: your faith, the Christian understanding, must be your own free will. 241 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 2: But here's the thing about Christian values. There are a 242 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 2: lot of Christian values out there that I think that 243 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 2: we've just sort of assumed, and we've in fact taken 244 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 2: for granted. Christian values are the idea that you should 245 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 2: respect every single person as an individual, whatever the color 246 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 2: of their skin created in the image of God. That's 247 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 2: a Christian concept. And in fact, it was a Christian 248 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 2: empire Great Britain that abolished slavery to begin with the 249 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 2: idea that we should eliminate child sacrifice. What do the 250 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 2: Christian settlers find when they came to the New World. 251 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 2: They found a lot of civilizations that were murdering babies 252 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 2: in weird religious rituals. It was Christianity that said, we 253 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 2: don't kill children just because they're somehow inconvenient to people. 254 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 2: A lot of the things human rights, the very idea 255 00:12:56,000 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 2: that human beings have rights, are Christian concept. And so 256 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 2: i'd ask you my assumption based on the question is 257 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 2: that you're skeptical of Christianity, or at least of certain 258 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 2: public professions of Christianity. 259 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: One of my favorite Bible verses is by your fruits. 260 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 2: Ye shall know them. And I think that the fruits 261 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 2: of the Christian faith are the most moral, the most just, 262 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 2: and the most prosperous civilization in history. I make no 263 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 2: apologies for believing that Christianity is the pathway to God. 264 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 2: I make no apologies for thinking that Christian values are 265 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 2: an important foundation of this country. But I'm not going 266 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 2: to force you to believe in anything, because that's not 267 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 2: what God wants, and that's not what I want either, 268 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 2: So go ahead. 269 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 6: So the school system, do you agree that there should 270 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 6: be Christian implementation or do you think that school system 271 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 6: should be neutral and be focused on science, literature, reading, writing, arithmetic. 272 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: Well, I reject the idea that anything is purely neutral. 273 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 2: Okay, there are for example, let's say, let's take a 274 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 2: basic scientific fact. And this is a little spicy, I'm 275 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 2: not trying to make this too controversial, but take the 276 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 2: basic scientific fact of can you take a pill to 277 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 2: change your biological gender? Okay, now that's something that fifteen 278 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 2: years ago, quite literally every single scientist in the Western 279 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 2: world would have said absolutely not, that's crazy, and now 280 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 2: people will. I Actually, I think the premise of your question, 281 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 2: I don't totally share it because I don't think perfect 282 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 2: neutrality is possible. What is it you talk about history? 283 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 2: Was Christopher Columbus a great explorer? Or was he a 284 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 2: guy who committed genocide against the native populations? These debates, 285 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 2: I'm happy to have them, but I reject the idea 286 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 2: that there are truly neutral debates. Anybody who's telling you 287 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 2: their view is neutral likely has an agenda to sell you, 288 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 2: and I'm at least honest about the fact that I 289 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 2: think the Christian foundation of this country is a good thing. 290 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 6: Next, Okay, thank you, and you the pill you're talking about? 291 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: What do you mean specifically? 292 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 6: Are you talking about estra ten? 293 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm talking about hormone replacement therapy. That's what I'm 294 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 2: talking about. Just to be respectful, let's let's keep it going. Yes, 295 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 2: thank you, have a good night, you too. 296 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 3: Hello, mister Vice President, Thank you so much for giving 297 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 3: this opportunity to talk here today. I did not agree 298 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 3: with many of the things that you said right ahead 299 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 3: of this, but I don't think that's my point to 300 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 3: discuss here. What I want to ask is you are 301 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 3: married to a woman who is not Christian in her Wikipedia. 302 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 3: I mean, I just looked that up. I wanted to 303 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 3: know what her faith was. I didn't know this before, 304 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 3: but she still calls herself Hindu. You are raising two kids, 305 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 3: three kids, in internal racial, cultural, racial religious household. How 306 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 3: are you maintaining or how are you teaching your kids 307 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 3: to keep your relagion ahead of their mother's religion, or 308 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 3: how are you teaching them that your kind they're that 309 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 3: kind who got here just a few years or a 310 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 3: few hundred years, a few decades ago, is different or 311 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 3: is better than your mom's kind who got here just 312 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 3: a generation before. How are you balancing that? And when 313 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 3: you talk about too many immigrants here? What is When 314 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 3: did you guys decide that number? Why did you sell 315 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 3: us a dream? You made us spent our youth, our 316 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 3: wealth in this country and gave us a dream. You 317 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 3: don't owe us anything. We have worked hard for it. 318 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 3: Then how can you, as a vice president, stand there 319 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 3: and say that we have too many of them now 320 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 3: and we are going to take them out to people 321 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 3: who are here right fully? So by paying the money 322 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 3: that you guys asked us, you gave us the path, 323 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 3: and now how can you stop it and tell us 324 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 3: we don't belong here anymore? And one more thing, I'm sorry, 325 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 3: one more thing. 326 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: Do you have to be out there? 327 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm gonna remember all this, but 328 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. 329 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 3: I'm sorry I had to say all of this, and 330 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 3: please take it with you. I mean, I'm saying all 331 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 3: of this. I have no intention of causing a seeing 332 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 3: here or anything. 333 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: But we don't worry. 334 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 3: But we talked about Christianity. All of this. I'm not 335 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 3: even Christian, and I'm here standing to so support. Why 336 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 3: are we making Christianity one of the major things that 337 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 3: you have to have in common to be one of 338 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 3: you guys, to saw that I love America just as 339 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 3: you do. Why is that still a question? Why do 340 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 3: I have to be a Christian? 341 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: Okay? 342 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 2: So there was a lot there, and I'm going to 343 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 2: try to respond to as much of it as I can. 344 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: So. 345 00:17:56,359 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 2: On the question of immigration, so, first of all, I 346 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 2: can believe that we should have lower immigration levels. But 347 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 2: if the United States passed the law and made a 348 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 2: promise to somebody, the United States of course has to 349 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 2: honor that promise. 350 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 1: Nobody's talking about that. 351 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 2: I'm talking about people who came in in violation of 352 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 2: the laws of the United States of America. And I'm 353 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 2: talking about in the future reducing the number, reducing the 354 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:23,719 Speaker 2: number of people. 355 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: Sorry what I. 356 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 3: Continue on that because when you just said, you are 357 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 3: not stopping with the people who came here legally, right, 358 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,719 Speaker 3: but you are pushing out policies that hurt us. And 359 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 3: these policies are not even solving the problems. These policies 360 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 3: are just. 361 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: Creating their No no, maam okay. 362 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 2: So again, I'm I'm gonna finish answering the question, and 363 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 2: then you know, if I've answered all nine of your 364 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 2: questions in less than fifteen minutes, then we can keep 365 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 2: on going. 366 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 1: We got to have a little fun, right, So here's 367 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: the thing. 368 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 2: I can believe that the United States should should lower 369 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 2: its levels of immigration in the future while also respecting 370 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 2: that there are people who have come here through immigration 371 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 2: path lawful immigration pathways, that have contributed to the country. 372 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 2: But just because one person or ten people or one 373 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 2: hundred people came in legally and contributed to the United 374 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 2: States of America, does that mean that we're thereby committed 375 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 2: to let in a million or ten million, or one 376 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 2: hundred million people a year in the future. No, that 377 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 2: that's not right. We cannot have I'll go and finish. 378 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 2: We cannot have an immigration policy where what was good 379 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 2: for the country fifty or sixty years ago binds the 380 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 2: country inevitably for the future. There's too many people who 381 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 2: want to come to the United States of America. And 382 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 2: my job as Vice president is not to look out 383 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 2: for the interest. 384 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 1: Of the whole world. 385 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 2: It's to look out for the people of the United States. Now, 386 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 2: now you asked a personal question about about our interfaith household, 387 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 2: and yes, my wife did not grow up Christian. I 388 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 2: think it's fair to say that she grew up in 389 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 2: a Hindu family, but not a particularly religious family in 390 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 2: either direction. And in fact, when I met my wife, 391 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 2: we were both I would consider myself an agnostic or 392 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 2: an atheist, and that's what I think she would have 393 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 2: considered herself as well. You know, everybody has to come 394 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 2: to their own arrangement here. The way that we've come 395 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 2: to our arrangement is she's my best friend. We talk 396 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 2: to each other about this stuff. So we decided to 397 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 2: raise our kids Christian. Our two oldest kids who go 398 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 2: to school, they go to a Christian school. Our eight 399 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 2: year old did his first communion about a year ago. 400 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 2: That's the way that we have come to our arrangement. 401 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 2: But thank you, my eight year old was also very 402 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 2: proud of this first communion. 403 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: Thank you, guys. I'll tell the old miss wishes in 404 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: the vest. 405 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 2: But I think everybody has to have this own conversation 406 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 2: when you in a marriage. I mean it's true for 407 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 2: friends of mine who are in Protestant and Catholic marriages. 408 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 2: Friends of mine who are in you know, atheists and 409 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 2: Christian marriages. 410 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 1: You just got to talk to you. 411 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 2: The only advice I can give is you just got 412 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 2: to talk to the person that God has put you with, 413 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 2: and you've got to make those decisions as a family unit. 414 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 2: For us, it works out now most Sundays, Usha will 415 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 2: come with me to church, as I've told her, and 416 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 2: I've said publicly, and I'll say now in front of 417 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 2: ten thousand of my closest friends. Do I hope eventually 418 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 2: that she is somehow moved by the same thing that 419 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 2: I was moved in by church? Yeah, I honestly I 420 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 2: do wish that because I believe in the Christian Gospel, 421 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 2: and I hope eventually my wife comes to see it 422 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 2: the same way. But if she doesn't, then God says 423 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 2: everybody has free will, and so that doesn't cause a 424 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 2: problem for me. That's something you work out with your friends, 425 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 2: with your family, with the person that you love again 426 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 2: the most, one of the most important Christian principles is 427 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 2: that you respect free will. Usha's closer to the priests 428 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 2: who baptize me than maybe I am. They talk about 429 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 2: this stuff. My attitude is you figure this stuff out 430 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 2: as a family, and you trust in God to have 431 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 2: a plan and you try to follow it as best 432 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:10,479 Speaker 2: as you can. And that's what I try to do. 433 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 2: I want to make a final point, so I don't 434 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 2: want to cut you off. I want to you're respectful 435 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 2: to all the people behind you on line. But I 436 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 2: want to make this point about immigration. Okay, if you 437 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 2: ask the question what is the exact right number of 438 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 2: immigrants for the United States to let in? 439 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: It is just very specific on the context. 440 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 2: If you go back to the nineteen twenties, the United 441 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 2: States passed an immigration reformat that effectively cut down immigration 442 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 2: to close to zero for forty years in this country. 443 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 2: And what happened over those forty years the many, many 444 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 2: people who had come from many different foreign countries and 445 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 2: different foreign cultures. They assimilated into American culture, and there 446 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 2: was an expectation that they would assimilate into American culture. 447 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 2: I think we have two problems in our immigration system today. 448 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 2: And my guess is you're probably a slightly more leftist 449 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 2: political persuasion liberal political persuasion. 450 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: Maybe not. But here's the thing. 451 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 2: I remember back in my establishment GOP days, when I 452 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 2: was still very early getting involved in Republican politics. I 453 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 2: remember a conservative think tank person who told me that 454 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 2: one of the reasons why immigration was really good is 455 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 2: that if you had enough diversity in a country, people 456 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 2: would mistrust each other and. 457 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 1: They wouldn't join labor unions. 458 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 2: Okay, So when I see a lot of left wing 459 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 2: people who theoretically support organized labor saying we need to 460 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 2: flood the country with a limitless number of immigrants, they're 461 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 2: unwilling to set any limitations on it. My response to 462 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 2: that is you were destroying the very social trust on 463 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 2: which American freedom and prosperity was built, and that is 464 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 2: really important to me. So the honest answer to your question, 465 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 2: what is the exact number of immigrants America should accept 466 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 2: in the future right now, the answer is far less 467 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 2: than we've been accepting. We have got to become a 468 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 2: common community again, and you can't do that when you 469 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 2: have such high numbers of immigration, which is one of 470 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 2: the reasons why we have the immigration policy we do. 471 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:13,199 Speaker 1: Thank you. 472 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 7: Next, good evening, Vice President Vance. I just want to 473 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 7: say it's an honor, uh to actually be able to 474 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 7: talk to you here. 475 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you. 476 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 7: One of my biggest questions is I feel like one 477 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 7: of the biggest problems that America is facing today is 478 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 7: that ever growing social political divide. And we're seeing this 479 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 7: on the Republican and Democratic side, but we've seen that 480 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 7: a refusal to cooperate with the other side has led 481 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 7: to some major issues, including right now the government shutdown, 482 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 7: and I wonder, as the party empower, what are your 483 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 7: plans to address that issue towards, you know, reaching that 484 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 7: olive branch out to the other side to actually come 485 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 7: to an agreement on how to go forward with our government. 486 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 2: Look, it's a very good question, and let me just 487 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 2: say on the government shutdown in particular, the reality here 488 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 2: is that there's a very simple bill that just reopens 489 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 2: the government. 490 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 1: It does it through pretty much the end of the year. 491 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 2: That got every single Republican in the House of Representatives 492 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 2: to support it, and then it got fifty two Republicans 493 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 2: in the Senate and three Democrats in the Senate to 494 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 2: support it. But because of weird Senate procedural rules, it 495 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 2: requires a sixty vote threshold. So on that issue in particular, 496 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 2: when you have every single Republican with like two exceptions, 497 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 2: in both houses of Congress, I feel pretty confident. 498 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: I know that I'm parties, and I know I have 499 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: an R. 500 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 2: Next to my name, but I feel pretty damn good 501 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 2: saying the shutdown is the Democrat's fault because we voted 502 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 2: again and again to open. 503 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: Now. But there's a broader question there, and I think. 504 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 2: Most Americans, whatever their political persuasion, would actually like the 505 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 2: country's parties to work together better to solve the problems. 506 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: And look, and I agree with that. 507 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 2: And my approach when I was in the United States 508 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 2: Senate was to try to find some issues where we 509 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 2: could agree with the other side on and try to 510 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 2: work with them on it. And like, let me give 511 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 2: you one example. I'm a really I really worry about 512 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 2: concentration in the corporate sector. I worry about big corporate monopolies. 513 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 2: I worry that when you have only one or two 514 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 2: companies dominating an entire sector, it's bad for liberty and 515 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 2: it's bad for prosperity. So you may be shocked to 516 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,919 Speaker 2: hear this, but I actually worked with Elizabeth Warren on 517 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 2: some anti monopoly stuff when I was in the United 518 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 2: States Senate. But here's the problem. The problem is there 519 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 2: is actually a lot of things where we could work 520 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 2: across the aisle. There are a lot of republic President 521 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 2: Trump is in my view, you haven't seen organized labor 522 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 2: ever get behind a Republican at least in one hundred years, 523 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 2: like they have behind Donald J. 524 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: Trump. 525 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 2: There are a lot of areas of common ground on 526 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 2: that question. The problem is as reasonable as some of 527 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 2: these people can be in private in public. The current 528 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 2: obsession of the Democratic Party in leadership. I'm not saying 529 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 2: every Democrat in the country, but the current obsession of 530 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 2: every Democrat in Congress is get President Trump, fight President Trump, 531 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 2: Attack President Trump. It is impossible for us to work 532 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 2: across the aisle unless a person is willing to put 533 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 2: down their partisan sword, shut the hell up about fake 534 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 2: scandals related to Donald Trump, and actually work with us. 535 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 2: That's the way you make this happen. Next, I'm thank you, 536 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 2: thank you, next, but I'm trying to get through as 537 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 2: many as possible. 538 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 1: Guys. 539 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 8: Thank you, Good evening, mister Vice President. Hello, Hi, I 540 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 8: actually drove here all the way from Memphis, Tennessee. Go Tigers, 541 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 8: so I'm sure everyone here is aware of the Memphis 542 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 8: Safe Tax Force that has been in the city for 543 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 8: about a month now, and I checked a little earlier. 544 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 8: As of this morning, I believe they've arrested seventeen hundred 545 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 8: people and seized about three hundred illegal guns. So I 546 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 8: want to ask, how does this law enforcement objective jive 547 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 8: with Attorney General Pambondi's pledge to make the Department of 548 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 8: Justice a more pro Second Amendment department of Justice. Because 549 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 8: I'm sure most people in here support the Second Amendment. 550 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 8: So how can Republicans and this Department of Justice use 551 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 8: the current gun laws that are on the books that 552 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 8: a lot of pro Second Amendment advocates disagree with that 553 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 8: we wanted to overturn in the Big Beautiful Bill, but 554 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 8: we didn't get it. 555 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I understand the question. 556 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 2: And by the way, I supported some of those changes 557 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 2: in the Big Beautiful Bill. I know the President of 558 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 2: the United States too. We didn't have the votes to 559 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 2: get them in there, and that's that's as simple as that. 560 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 2: But I know exactly what you're talking about, because there 561 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 2: were a couple of issues in particular. 562 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: I talked to some of my Second Amendment friends. But 563 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: here's the basic issue. 564 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 2: We don't want people who have violated the law, who 565 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 2: have committed felonies. 566 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: The Second Amendment, like every other amendment, it's about due process. 567 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 2: It's that you don't have your rights violated unless there 568 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 2: is a due process of law. If you're a person 569 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 2: who's committed for felonies and a court has lawfully ordered 570 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,959 Speaker 2: that you shouldn't have a gun and you're running around 571 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 2: with a firearm, I don't have any problem with law 572 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 2: enforcement saying you don't get to have that firearm that 573 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 2: is I legally possessed, illegally obtained. I think that's basic 574 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 2: law and order. Now again, if you had, you know, 575 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 2: if you had somebody come in and say, well, we 576 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:52,959 Speaker 2: don't think that person should have a firearm, but they 577 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 2: haven't violated any law, that's a totally separate question. That's 578 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 2: not what we're focused on. What we're focused on is 579 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 2: violent crime and people who have violated, you know, the 580 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 2: bodily autonomy of another human people, a person who has 581 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 2: committed an act of violence against one of their fellow citizens. 582 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 2: We're going to clean up the streets, get those people 583 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 2: off the streets, and make America safe for the American citizens. Again, 584 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 2: that is our entire law and order policy, and I 585 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 2: think we're doing a pretty good job at it. 586 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 9: Thank you, Thank you for the opportunity to speak I'm 587 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 9: a Christian man, and I'm just confused why that there's 588 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 9: this notion that we might have owe Israel something, or 589 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 9: that there are greatest ally or that we have to 590 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 9: support this multi hundred billion dollar foreign aid package to 591 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 9: Israel to cover this. To quote Charlie Kirk, ethnic Lensing 592 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 9: and Gaza, I'm just confused why this idea has come around, 593 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 9: considering the fact that not only does their religion not 594 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:07,479 Speaker 9: agree with ours, but also openly supports the prosecution of ours. 595 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, so let me let me say a few things 596 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: about this. 597 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 2: First of all, when the President of the United States 598 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 2: says America first, that means that he pursues the interests 599 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 2: of Americans first. 600 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: That is our entire foreign policy. 601 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 2: Now, that doesn't mean that you're not going to have alliances, 602 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 2: that you're not going to work with other countries from 603 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 2: time to time. And that is what the President believes 604 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 2: is that Israel, sometimes they have similar interests in the 605 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 2: United States, and we're going to work with them in 606 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 2: that case. 607 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: Sometimes they don't have similar interests in the United States. 608 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 2: And this example, the most recent gods a peace plan 609 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 2: that all of us have been working on very hard 610 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 2: for the past few weeks. The President of the United 611 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 2: States could only get that piece deal done by actually 612 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 2: being willing to apply leverage to the state of Israel. 613 00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 2: So when people say that Israel is some how manipulating 614 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 2: or controlling the president of the United States, they're not 615 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 2: controlling this president of the United States, which is one 616 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 2: of the reasons why would be able to have some 617 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 2: of the success. 618 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: That we've had in the Middle East. 619 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 2: Now you ask about, you know, sort of Jews disagreeing 620 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 2: with Christians. 621 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: On certain religious ideas. 622 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, It's one of the realities is that Jews 623 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 2: do not believe that Jesus Christ is the Messiah. 624 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: Obviously, Christians do believe that. 625 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,959 Speaker 2: There are some significant theological disagreements between Christians and Jews. 626 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 2: My attitude is, let's have those conversations, Let's have those 627 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 2: disagreements when we have them, But if there are shared 628 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 2: areas of. 629 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: Interest, we ought to be willing to do that too. 630 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 2: For example, I really care about one thing I really 631 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 2: really care about is the preservation of the Church of 632 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 2: the Holy Sepulcher in Jerusalem. Christians believe that that is 633 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 2: the site where Jesus Christ was crucified, and also that 634 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 2: his tomb is right there as well. My attitude is 635 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 2: if we can work with our friends in Israel to 636 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 2: make sure that Christians have safe access to that site, 637 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 2: that's an obvious area of common interest. 638 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: I am fine with that. 639 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 2: What I'm not okay with is any country coming before 640 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 2: the interests of American citizens. 641 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: And it is important for all of us. 642 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 2: Assuming we're American citizens, to put the interest of our 643 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 2: own country first. That's what we're gonna do. That's what 644 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 2: we try to do every single day, I promise you. 645 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: Thank you. 646 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 10: Hi, mister Vice President. I'm the president of our pro 647 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 10: life organization here at Ole, miss Rebels for Life, and 648 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 10: I myself, as a president, am one hundred percent pro life. 649 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,239 Speaker 10: And I know you've stated you being Catholic that you 650 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 10: in the past, you've stated that you're one hundred percent 651 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 10: pro life, but since joining the presidential campaign as the VP, 652 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 10: you've kind of wavered how. 653 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 3: You see abortions. 654 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 10: So I'm just wondering what your stayding is right now, 655 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 10: and do you think that someone else's right to liberty 656 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 10: trump someone else's right to life. 657 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I appreciate your question, and I 658 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 2: appreciate the work that you do. You asked the question, 659 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 2: do I think somebody else's right to liberty trump somebody 660 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 2: else's right to life. 661 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 1: No, No, I do not, in fact, do not believe that. 662 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:22,359 Speaker 1: Now you said, and I'm going. 663 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,720 Speaker 2: To take issue with something you said just the premise 664 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 2: of the question, which is that I've wavered on the 665 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,760 Speaker 2: pro life issue. I really do believe that the president 666 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 2: has been the most pro life president in the history 667 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 2: of the United States of America. Now that said, there 668 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 2: are two things that I think we have to keep 669 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 2: in mind here now. One is the very very hard 670 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 2: question of you know, when we talk about our abortion policy, 671 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 2: there are some very very difficult educations. There are cases 672 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 2: where you've got, you know, an eleven year old girl 673 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 2: who was raped who it would be unsafe for her 674 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,720 Speaker 2: to bring the baby to term. You've got situations where 675 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 2: you know, bringing a baby to term would cause serious 676 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 2: bodily harm, maybe maybe death for the mother. 677 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: That's one of the reasons why. 678 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 2: We believe in the exception in these cases where you have, 679 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 2: again their edge cases, they're rare. I think the pro 680 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 2: abortion community would have you believe that's ninety percent of abortions. 681 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 1: That's not true. But we've got to be honest about 682 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: the fact that there are some edgucases. 683 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 2: The second thing I'd say about this is that we 684 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 2: have to be prudential and practical in what can get accomplished. 685 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,839 Speaker 2: And there may be disagreements about what exactly that is. 686 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 2: But if you look at the pro life victories that 687 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 2: the President of the United States has been able to achieve, 688 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 2: he's been able to achieve them because he has worked 689 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 2: within the system that we have. If your attitude is 690 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 2: you are going to pursue the most aggressive pro life option, 691 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 2: even if it means you lose every election and every 692 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 2: outcome means that you're going to be in a situation 693 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 2: where the Democrats have abortion on demand up to the 694 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 2: moment of birth, to the very end. You've got to 695 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 2: work within the political constraints that we have now here here. 696 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 2: Let me just say something about this, and somebody asked 697 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 2: me earlier about my Christian values, and one of the 698 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 2: points I made is that when the settlers came to 699 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:10,359 Speaker 2: the New World, they found very widespread child sacrifice. I 700 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 2: imagine there are some people who don't agree with my 701 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 2: view on the pro life issue. 702 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: Let me just make an observation. 703 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 2: If you go to historical archaeological sites where there were brothels. 704 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 2: And the two oldest businesses in the world are gambling 705 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 2: in prostitutions, so there were brothels even in very ancient civilizations. 706 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:30,879 Speaker 1: If you go back to. 707 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 2: Ancient brothels and you dig up the bones of the 708 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 2: women who are working in these places, you will very 709 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,760 Speaker 2: often find a lot of children. 710 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:41,720 Speaker 1: Who were buried with them. 711 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 2: And the answer is that whenever a society decides to 712 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 2: discard innocent babies, they also don't treat their women very well. 713 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 2: And whenever a society mistreats its women, it is very 714 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 2: often the babies who come right after that. 715 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 1: There is a reason why hie. 716 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 2: Christian civilization ended the practice of child sacrifice all over 717 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 2: the world, and it's one of the great accomplishments of 718 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 2: Christian civilizations. I believe that we should try to be 719 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 2: protecting every unborn life. 720 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: There's a question of exactly how we do it, but I. 721 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 2: Would never say that anyone's life, to write to life 722 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 2: should be sacrificed. 723 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:26,240 Speaker 1: Thank you man, your life. 724 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 11: The Michael Berry Show and Podcast. Please tell one friend, 725 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 11: and if you're so inclined, write a nice review of 726 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 11: our podcast. 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