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Speaker 2: Oh, I see you.

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Speaker 1: Look over there is that culture.

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Speaker 3: Yes, goodness, wow loves culture.

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Speaker 1: Dang los cultures calling. You know what, I just realized

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Speaker 1: it is for me and I didn't understand it to

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Speaker 1: be this type of day today, but it is. It's

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Speaker 3: You are your water signed classically? Oh yeah, it's And

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Speaker 3: the moon is new, babe.

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Speaker 1: I think the moon might be new right now, but

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Speaker 2: Old as fun.

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Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, you are.

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Speaker 3: You are filling yourself up to be dictated by the

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Speaker 1: Did you know that actually, when we drink water now,

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Speaker 1: it hydrates us. You okay, let me let me, let

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Speaker 1: me be careful about this. So the water that we

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Speaker 3: The but the the piss that we pissed tonight is

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Speaker 1: Correct, So when you piss, when you piss later, it

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Speaker 1: will be water you've had recently. That's often why you'll

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Speaker 1: you'll find that you drink a lot of water and

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Speaker 1: then like a short time later, we'll have to pee.

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Speaker 1: That is that very water. But the hydration station is

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Speaker 1: what do you drinking from? A while back? You know

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Speaker 1: who told me this, Doug Peck.

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Speaker 3: Our vocal genus.

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Speaker 1: Who knows about hydration and quite frankly drinking water. Also,

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Speaker 1: room temp is best.

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Speaker 3: Now what do I do if it burns.

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Speaker 1: A little when you pee?

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Speaker 2: Kidding?

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Speaker 1: When was your last STI? Oh god, we're going there

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Speaker 3: Girl, I'm so sorry. I regret to regret to inform

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Speaker 1: What about you. I've never taken doxie pep, which for

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Speaker 1: but never had to. I just had one gnarally gnarly

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Speaker 4: No, no, it's on the Michael Tura Network.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she famously said every thirty seconds? What was

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Speaker 3: She is the host, creator, producer of Welcome to Abario

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Speaker 3: at Every Third As we said, everyone please welcome Becca Romo.

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Speaker 1: Okay, producer Becca.

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Speaker 2: Now guess Becca, this is crazy.

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Speaker 4: It's what you to sit there usually and then now

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Speaker 1: Welcome to your public life.

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Speaker 2: Might I know it's it's scary.

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Speaker 1: You know what? Those are the things you wear on

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty immediate on it. I immediately bought the Cowboy

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Speaker 4: To be someone who's like, yeah, I'm wearing the merch,

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Speaker 1: Like, and I have to buy the merch No, no, no, no no.

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Speaker 1: See that's the thing is, it's like I'll get militant

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Speaker 2: I'm very excited. I'm very intrigued.

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Speaker 4: I can't wait to revisit Lemonade, to re enter the

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Speaker 4: rock era, because that's where we got got a first yourself.

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Speaker 3: Do you think rock is gonna be leather?

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Speaker 2: I feel like it has to be you.

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Speaker 4: Well, you have immigrant parents. I have very brown parents.

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Speaker 4: There was a lot of like rape culture at Baylor,

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Speaker 2: Crazy. But all that to say, the culture at Faylor

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Speaker 4: And they were like definitely taking fraternities off campus because

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Speaker 4: So I was at a time in the Greek culture,

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Speaker 1: That was like it almost felt achievement based. Yes, to

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Speaker 4: And it's like, Lol, You're a private Baptist college in

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Speaker 2: But they they were part of you know. It wasn't nothing.

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Speaker 4: And then I moved to Portland, organ of all places,

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Speaker 4: So I was protecting my girls, and my goals were

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Speaker 4: like peak beautiful, like brown, long, luscious gorgeous hair, like

446
00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,280
Speaker 4: teeny meany little thing love her, it does.

447
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,160
Speaker 2: She's sill my best friend. But the men flock to her,

448
00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:16,520
Speaker 2: you know.

449
00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,680
Speaker 4: And so I'm just like standing down only two drinks

450
00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,000
Speaker 4: and being like, do not put anything in her drink

451
00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:23,280
Speaker 4: or I will take you down.

452
00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,879
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And so you're seeing attention being given in

453
00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,680
Speaker 1: a new way. You're looking at it from the outside

454
00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,479
Speaker 1: and therefore can see it the most clearly.

455
00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:32,520
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly.

456
00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,359
Speaker 4: So I had like fun at my house, Like I

457
00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,240
Speaker 4: live in a house of like five sorty girls, so

458
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:38,000
Speaker 4: we party.

459
00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,359
Speaker 1: And it wasn't community, it was. It was good.

460
00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,360
Speaker 4: I had a great, like Greek life experience, even though

461
00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,200
Speaker 4: there was obviously like mean girls bullying, like whatever, You're

462
00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,480
Speaker 4: gonna have that at any school age of eighteen to

463
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:50,080
Speaker 4: twenty two.

464
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:51,119
Speaker 2: Year olds, you know, totally.

465
00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 4: But I ended up building a really strong community of

466
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,800
Speaker 4: like girlfriends I'm still best friends with two of the

467
00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,280
Speaker 4: girls I lived with in college. There's still my girls

468
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,879
Speaker 4: this day. And I think had I gone to somewhere

469
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 4: like ut it actually would have been worse because the

470
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:09,480
Speaker 4: Greek life, I think is more toxic at other public universities.

471
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:13,440
Speaker 4: I think Baylor because of the religious aspect, it actually

472
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,800
Speaker 4: was way more tame for the sororities, not for the forgeries,

473
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,919
Speaker 4: but for the authrorities. So yeah, I it was not

474
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,960
Speaker 4: the most pleasant experience, but it's a story.

475
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, but just like on an environmental level, like of course,

476
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,439
Speaker 3: that like starts to be pernicious and you start to

477
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,399
Speaker 3: like think these you start to live in the system

478
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,119
Speaker 3: of like the whiteness of it all.

479
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're like, I obviously didn't have the language we

480
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 4: all have now with like assimilation, like learning what it

481
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:46,200
Speaker 4: means to be a person of color, all these things.

482
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 2: These are not conversations we're having in twenty thirteen, twenty seventeen.

483
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,359
Speaker 4: I didn't find out what afri Latina meant until twenty seventeen.

484
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, that's me.

485
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,639
Speaker 4: I just was like, I'm Puerto Rican and then people

486
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 4: were like you're black, and I'd be like, well, no,

487
00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,440
Speaker 4: and then now I'm like yes, But then I didn't

488
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 4: have that language. So at that time I was just like, well,

489
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,639
Speaker 4: if I'm just the best at everything, I'll be accepted surely.

490
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 4: Like I was like on the executive council with my sorority.

491
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 4: I was a Dean's list student. I I mean, I

492
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 4: went to a private Baptist college. I was like, I

493
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,119
Speaker 4: if I just if I'm good enough, they'll like me.

494
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,640
Speaker 4: And then I dated this guy in college though this

495
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 4: he was five years old than me, which was already

496
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 4: a problem of itself. You know, if you're twenty, don't

497
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 4: date a twenty five.

498
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 1: Years Oh no, certainly, no one older than that. Either.

499
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 1: You don't know what's weird until.

500
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 2: You don't know what's weird. TI, you're a yeah.

501
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:40,680
Speaker 4: And so he was my ta, so already bad.

502
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,359
Speaker 1: Were you attracted to the fact that it felt like

503
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:44,880
Speaker 1: a yeah hierarchy?

504
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,479
Speaker 4: Like, well, I because all semester when he's my ta,

505
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,679
Speaker 4: I thought we were flirting, But I I took it

506
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 4: as like, t he this is so fun. This is

507
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,199
Speaker 4: like a fantasy. There's like, hey, a rivalry.

508
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 1: I'm not really supposed to be doing something horny about it,

509
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,639
Speaker 1: right exactly, I watched Rivalry back in the day.

510
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course I know.

511
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 4: It was no, it was fantasy to me, right, So

512
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 4: when I would go and I would go back to

513
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:08,679
Speaker 4: my girlfriends and be like, oh my god, no, I

514
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,159
Speaker 4: think he's flirting with me. And then I got really

515
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 4: drunk in the summer with one of my friends because

516
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 4: I stayed in Waco for that summer because I was

517
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 4: interning or something, and I got really drunk and I

518
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,239
Speaker 4: added him on Facebook because that's the time we were

519
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,679
Speaker 4: living in Instagram was not like that, but I like

520
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,239
Speaker 4: found his name, his full name, and I added him

521
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 4: on Facebook and then he messaged me asking to take

522
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 4: me out because I was no longer his student anymore,

523
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 4: and so he was like, well, we can like go

524
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 4: on a date. And then we went on a date

525
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 4: and the next thing, you know, we dated for like

526
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,919
Speaker 4: almost three years. I dated from like twenty twenty to

527
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,919
Speaker 4: twenty three till I moved to Portland and then like

528
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 4: it kind of fizzled out from when I was living

529
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 4: in Portland.

530
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 2: The long distance, many of the things, but.

531
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 4: I sailed as a say, as we were dating my

532
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 4: senior year, he is a grad student, he is older.

533
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 4: I had to get a fake idea to go out

534
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 4: with him because he was embarrassed to take me out.

535
00:23:58,640 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 2: Like should have known.

536
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 1: He was on the lots the things that you ignore

537
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,159
Speaker 1: when you were just simply attracted to something. Yes, and

538
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 1: I was assuming a lot about that He's gonna take

539
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:07,679
Speaker 1: care of yes.

540
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,679
Speaker 4: And so we're out one night and he was like, oh, well,

541
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 4: you know, my family doesn't.

542
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 2: Like love you.

543
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 4: And I was like huh. I was like, wait, wait, wait, wait,

544
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 4: I met your family. I've gone to Virginia to meet them.

545
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 4: This is before get out came out, which he related, yes, okay,

546
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 4: very much.

547
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:26,360
Speaker 3: So he's like.

548
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,679
Speaker 2: East Coast family of lawyers.

549
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 4: Dad went to Georgetown like old mondayless like probably he

550
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 4: was so to me, I was like, this was also

551
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 4: exciting because I was like, oh, he's like elite, Like

552
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 4: he's like he's special. You know, I'm just a bumpkin

553
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 4: from Houston, Texas. He's like from the East Coast.

554
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 1: You know.

555
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 3: It's culture. And so I need my papers.

556
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 4: Yeah literally, and so I actually he was a geology ta,

557
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 4: which is like I had to take.

558
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 2: One last time.

559
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 3: He brought in the rocks.

560
00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 2: I care literally, and so but we're out and.

561
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 1: Make sure there's no dirt on this one. I'm going

562
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: to sit in the corner.

563
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 3: Now, we love you geology tas, we respect you geology scientists,

564
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 3: just not for me. No.

565
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 4: But and I was like, what do you mean your

566
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,439
Speaker 4: family doesn't like me. He's like, well, you're just not

567
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 4: like a rich white D one athlete. And he said

568
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 4: this to my face. And then he was just like

569
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 4: and it was nagging. Of course, now we have this language,

570
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 4: we have the language.

571
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 1: Now I know we have all these words.

572
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 2: But at that time I.

573
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 4: Was like, and it was like the first moment that

574
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 4: I was like, Oh, it doesn't matter how much I

575
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 4: try to assimilate, I will never be enough like for

576
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 4: these like I can be the best I got. At

577
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 4: that time, I had already landed my job at the

578
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 4: ad agency, which is the number one ad agency in

579
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 4: the industry. Like I was like, I was the best

580
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,959
Speaker 4: of the best of the best in every category, and

581
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 4: it was not enough for this family because simply I'd

582
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 4: not come for money and I was not white.

583
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 1: Do you think it never would have been enough even

584
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: if they did spend a lot of time with you.

585
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 4: Yes, I don't think it would been enough because I

586
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 4: remember so distinctly. His mom came into town for something

587
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,360
Speaker 4: like for work, and my mom happen to also come

588
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 4: in town, and I was like, oh, we should get dinner,

589
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 4: and so our parents or our moms met, and I

590
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 4: remember feeling so at that time uncomfortable with how loud

591
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 4: my mom was and how much of a like Puerto

592
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 4: Rican woman she was, And it was because I was

593
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 4: like shrinking myself to fit into this space that was

594
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 4: so clearly not meant for me. And now I look

595
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 4: back feeling so sad that I even ever felt that.

596
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 2: Way looking at my mom.

597
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 4: But I know where it came from, because it was

598
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 4: just like it was so clear the writing on the

599
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 4: wall that I was just never going to.

600
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 2: Be accepted by this person.

601
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 4: And I think if I had rotten it out, we

602
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 4: would have gotten married and divorce, like I do think

603
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 4: like had I not moved to Portland, I would be

604
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 4: married in divorce.

605
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 3: And your whole relationship to what I think we might

606
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 3: be getting at, like on like the pathway to you

607
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,919
Speaker 3: starting this postodcast, yeah, is like you probably developed a

608
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 3: very wonderful sense of quote unquote, like what the lineage is, right,

609
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 3: and like how you had both of your parents are

610
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 3: also diasts for Puerto Rican who then went like you

611
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 3: know who now like and now you go back and

612
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 3: like you revisit and you have this beautiful appreciation and

613
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 3: this like connection to it, like you got to root

614
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 3: yourself in that. Yes, after this fucking lish like this

615
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 3: thing crazy.

616
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 4: The thing about my past life in Texas because now

617
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 4: I've lived outside of Texas for almost a decade. I

618
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 4: moved to Portland in twenty seventeen, so I was in

619
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 4: Portland for like three years and I've been here for six.

620
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 2: So I've been almost out of Texas for a decade.

621
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 4: But it's like I kind of put my Texas life

622
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 4: on a shelf.

623
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 2: Sometimes.

624
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 4: I feel like after Cowboy Carter came out, it was

625
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 4: like the first time I was like, Okay, it's okay

626
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 4: for me to be Texas.

627
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,919
Speaker 1: Like I was wondering how connected you are to Texas.

628
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 2: I was very traumatized. I think from my upbringing.

629
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 4: And now I've had enough distance and I've lived out

630
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 4: of Texas long enough that i can have a deep

631
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 4: appreciation for the beautiful parts of my upbringing.

632
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 2: But I'm still.

633
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 3: Never going back, right.

634
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 2: You know.

635
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 4: It's something I'm trying to get my parents out of there,

636
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 4: and they've even looked at me. I think when I

637
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 4: first moved, they're very sad and they were like, of course,

638
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 4: like we wish you could just get a job here.

639
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 4: But I always knew, like even from when I was little,

640
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 4: like something in me I was like, I'm not meant

641
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 4: to be here, Like I meant for bigger and better things.

642
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 4: I want to achieve this big, grandiose life. I don't

643
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 4: know what that looks like, but I know I can't

644
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 4: do it here in Texas. And I think those a

645
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 4: few years they were like come home. But then when

646
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 4: I moved to New York, they were actually like stay

647
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 4: there because they're like you're happy, you seem like this

648
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 4: is where you're.

649
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 3: Meant to be, and they have roots here.

650
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 4: Okay, my mom is she loves New York, she loves visiting.

651
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 4: She grew up in her summers here in New York

652
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 4: because my grandmother was born in Spanish Harlem, and like

653
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 4: grew up in Spanish Harlem and the Bronx, like we

654
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 4: have family the Bronx, we have family Spanish Harlem. So

655
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 4: my mom spent summers in New York because she would

656
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 4: go as her grandmother, who still lived in New York,

657
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 4: but my dad has no connection to New York. He

658
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 4: is very like, he is a California dude.

659
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: He loves La missus La opposite's truly attractive.

660
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's like, please take me back, if you could pay,

661
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 4: if you make enough money back, please retire us in La.

662
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I hope, so we.

663
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 3: Will get there.

664
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: I think people with the right idea think of like

665
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: California as a retirement. My parents are in Florida, and

666
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: it's it's tough, yeah, because it's.

667
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 4: Like it's like you're like, oh, it's it's so warm

668
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 4: and sunny, and Disney's right there.

669
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 3: But then it's like it all.

670
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: Fades right away when you realize that is not the same.

671
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 4: Because I know you love Disney, but does your family

672
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 4: are they Disney.

673
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: The reason that we loved Disney is because we were

674
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: we that was the at the time, affordable vacation.

675
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 4: Because my family's a Disney family too, and that was

676
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 4: like the only vacation.

677
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 3: It is becau at it then, Yeah, so now it's

678
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 3: not affordable.

679
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: Now they're very bald about it being about the bottom line,

680
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: and it's almost better for them to just be honest

681
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: about it. They're put like a Disney Mickey smile on it,

682
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: and they didn't take all the money from the families.

683
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: But this was not how it was back in the day.

684
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 1: The reason why we were going down there so much,

685
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: and I think one of the reasons why my sister

686
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: went to college in Florida is because we had like

687
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: an experience going there once a year, and it was,

688
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: of course a warm state. It didn't have the political

689
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: reputation that it has now.

690
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 2: It didn't have sort of we weren't thinking about it

691
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 2: like that.

692
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 3: No, it wasn't like that.

693
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: And also we were young, and like I was just

694
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: excited to go on vacation because we couldn't afford like

695
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: probably similarly to you, like it was not we weren't

696
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: going anywhere fancy.

697
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 4: No, and like basically we because I grew up fairly

698
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 4: poor up until like I was in middle school, because

699
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 4: my mom was a stay at home mom up until

700
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 4: I was like seven, and she finished her degree while

701
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 4: I was like she was a say at home mom,

702
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 4: and I went to her college graduation in second grade,

703
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 4: I think, And it was after that it was like

704
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 4: a huge change because then my parents became a two

705
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 4: income household, and my mom became a teacher, and all

706
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 4: of a sudden, by the time I got to high school,

707
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 4: like freshman year, we started to like get to go

708
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 4: to Disney and like go on vacation. But my dad

709
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 4: is he's a very particular person and he likes only

710
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 4: certain things in certain ways, and so the only vacation

711
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 4: he's willing to go to is Disney. So then we

712
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 4: just became a Disney family because it's like the only

713
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 4: place my dad was willing to.

714
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 3: Travel to order what are the things that particular is

715
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 3: about Disney that I think.

716
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 4: It's because it's so Americana. You know, my dad and

717
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 4: my mom are very different diasporic and Puerto Ricans. Like

718
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 4: my dad is like very He's like, I'm an American.

719
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 4: I grew up in California. I love hot dogs and

720
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 4: pizza and burgers. He's like, I'm proud to be an American.

721
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 4: Where it's like my mom, I think she is more

722
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 4: enriched in the culture because she actually grew up on

723
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 4: the island. But I say all that to say, when

724
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 4: we're at Disney, I think he likes the Americana of

725
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 4: it all, likes it. It's like and it's like he

726
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 4: doesn't have a thing and he doesn't have to think.

727
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 4: You go and you just you eat the food, you

728
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 4: go on the rides. There's no planning. I mean, it's

729
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 4: just like you just show up and everything's done for you.

730
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 4: It's the Disney way, the magic. And I think he

731
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 4: likes that.

732
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: At least it was the way it was.

733
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 2: And we went last year.

734
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: It was like the app and you need you need

735
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: like all this, you have to plan for months in

736
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: order to my.

737
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 4: Mom is shout out, if you want a Disney vacation,

738
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 4: hire my mom.

739
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 2: She does do like does she really yes?

740
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: Oh so we could jam out about this.

741
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 4: Yes, no, absolutely, she does all the bookings that my

742
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 4: mom's booked all our trips. But she also is like

743
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 4: an official like Disney vacation planner. She retired as a

744
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 4: teacher and then became like a little Disney vacation planner.

745
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 2: That's really fun so and she loves it. She's a

746
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 2: great because it discounts to go to Disney totally.

747
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: Like people call up and they're excited about having their

748
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: vacation and the fact is it is overwhelming and difficult

749
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: to navigate like.

750
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 2: And she loves doing that. She loves a plan organized type,

751
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 2: a kind of woman's.

752
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 3: About your mom though, and about like you feeling embarrassed

753
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 3: that you know about her volume. Yeah, this reminds me

754
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 3: of this thing someone said. I forget who, but it

755
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 3: was like they were talking about like the way people

756
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 3: talk about movies and TV and just culture nowadays, were like,

757
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 3: I didn't like it because the characters are unlikable. And

758
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 3: then it's this thing where it's like the thing you

759
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 3: don't like is usually the point, yes, And like the

760
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 3: thing that we feel shame about with particular parents, because

761
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 3: I'm relating to this on some level, like the things

762
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 3: that I would be very embarrassed about, like and you

763
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 3: would just have this merriment embarrassing because of white supremacy

764
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 3: or whatever, or just living in America, Like I'd be

765
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 3: embarrassed about the food that I bring to school or

766
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 3: something like that. And now I'm realizing that's that's the

767
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 3: reason the food is, Like the reasons for being ashamed

768
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 3: of like the way our parents behaved or the way

769
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 3: like our culture gets brought into these places is the point. Yes,

770
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 3: that's the quest.

771
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 4: It's the beauty of where you come from, because then

772
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 4: you're not like everybody else and there's I think it

773
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 4: takes like growing up to realize that. I think when

774
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 4: you're hosed to be when you're young, you're.

775
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 2: Like, oh my god, I just desperately don't want to

776
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 2: be perceived in a way.

777
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 4: You're like, I want to fit, especially when you like

778
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 4: already look out of place, right, Like I don't look

779
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 4: like any of the other kids.

780
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 2: I am.

781
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 4: Also have the experience that many Porto Ricans have where

782
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 4: your family just all doesn't look the same because we're

783
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 4: from an island that's like so mixed. Like my dad

784
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 4: is like very white Puerto Rican and my mom is

785
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 4: much more dark skin but like I am like Afro Latina,

786
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 4: Like I don't look like either of my parents, at

787
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 4: least when I was growing up. My hair was much curlier.

788
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 4: My hair is like jet black. I was always darker.

789
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 4: I am shades lighter than I grew up because in Texas,

790
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 4: the sun's always out, So I was very dark when

791
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 4: I lived in Texas, like my whole life because the

792
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 4: sun was always out.

793
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 2: So I just looked not like my family.

794
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 4: So I think that was like already a problem, Like

795
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 4: people used to just so fucked up. My mom used

796
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,399
Speaker 4: to tell me this as like a haha, and then

797
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 4: you think about it, you're like.

798
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 2: Wow, that's like really messed up.

799
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 4: But people used to stop my mom and be like, so,

800
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 4: it's like Becca's dad the same as you hurt your

801
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 4: son's dad. Because my brother and I are only a

802
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 4: year and a half apart, but he and I look

803
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 4: very different. He's got like light brown hair, He's much

804
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 4: more fair than I am. And yeah, people used to

805
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 4: ask my mom all the time when we were kids

806
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 4: if we had the same dad, and Mom's like, they're

807
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 4: a year and a half apart.

808
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 2: You think I'm crazy.

809
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 4: You think I'm just stepping out of my husband like

810
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 4: that eight months.

811
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: Part of the comfort that people had second he that

812
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: is Yeah, that's that's very telling.

813
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:32,240
Speaker 2: Wild.

814
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, you just got back from Puerto Rico Records exactly

815
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 3: episodes of the podcast. What was that like?

816
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 4: It was so much fun. It was actually kind of

817
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 4: an interesting experience because this year. If you had asked

818
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 4: me before twenty twenty four if I would go to

819
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 4: Puerto Rico five times in a year, I would have been like,

820
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 4: no way, I would never have the privilege to be

821
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 4: able to do that.

822
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,240
Speaker 2: But in twenty twenty.

823
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 4: Five I went four times or three times three or

824
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 4: four four three.

825
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,240
Speaker 3: This is my fourth time, but maybe maybe the pinky

826
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 3: went up.

827
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 4: Because we went for my birthday the three plus times.

828
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 4: We went for my thirtieth birthday, which is a lot

829
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 4: of fun, and then we went for my partner's birthday

830
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 4: in July. And then I had a good friend that

831
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 4: was like, I'm selling my bad Bunny tickets. Do you

832
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 4: want them? And I was like, and it was like,

833
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 4: but we're literally in Puerto Rico right now. Do we

834
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:30,919
Speaker 4: book a trip to be back in three weeks?

835
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 2: We did and.

836
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 4: August it was it was the first weekend. It was

837
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 4: the like non local residency, because we ended up there

838
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 4: the first weekend of the local residency, not because we

839
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 4: had tickets, because we just wanted to come for my

840
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 4: partner's birthday. And then we try to get tickets and

841
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 4: we couldn't get them. And then at the same time,

842
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 4: my friend's like, I can't make my trip. I'm going

843
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 4: to sell my tickets, but obviously I wanted to talk

844
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 4: to you first, and I was like, yeah, it's the

845
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 4: ones in lifetime opportunity.

846
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 2: I'm going to buy those tickets.

847
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 4: And so I brought my mom for that last trip,

848
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 4: so I went three times and then I just went

849
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,919
Speaker 4: this past week in January twenty by six, so four

850
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,439
Speaker 4: times in less than a year. I would have never

851
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 4: thought in my lifetime that I'd be able to frequent

852
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 4: the island like that.

853
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 2: It's been such a beautiful, like.

854
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 4: Healing experience to like go to Puerto Rico to network,

855
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 4: to like build community. I like now have friends on

856
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 4: the island, I like live there, and like I can

857
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 4: see and it doesn't feel like I'm like on vacation

858
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 4: so much.

859
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 2: It feels like I'm coming.

860
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 3: Home purpose exactly about the seasons, even though it's like

861
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 3: this temperate thing all year, but yes.

862
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 4: Yes, and this is my first time going in the winter,

863
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 4: which was very interesting because it definitely is colder than

864
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 4: you think.

865
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 2: It's rainy.

866
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,919
Speaker 4: There are these things called sand fleas, which I experienced

867
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 4: when I went in March many many moons ago when

868
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 4: I was in college, but I didn't experience in them

869
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 4: all summer. So I'm thinking I'm putting my thinking up

870
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 4: on perto Ricans. Let me know, are the sand fleas

871
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 4: worse in the winter, because I am like eating.

872
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a fad. It looks like have chicken pox.

873
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 2: So did you prepare at all for this or do

874
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 2: you I did not anticipate that at all.

875
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 4: I was like doing a photo shoot on the beach

876
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 4: and they literally I didn't even get in the water

877
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 4: or like sit on the sand.

878
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 2: They were jumping from the sand to bite me.

879
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: Do you identify as someone that and a lot of

880
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: people do identify as this someone that mosquitoes love like

881
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 1: some people are like you do.

882
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 2: I do identify someone.

883
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:28,720
Speaker 1: That I've been lucky about this. I have this privilege which.

884
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you, Oh.

885
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 3: That's you? Is that a thing always?

886
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 2: Maybe it's an old wise tail positive? So so what

887
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 2: is it?

888
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 3: Is it?

889
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: You guys are the universal donors? Yes, I think I'm

890
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: a universal receiver.

891
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 2: I say you're a universal receiver.

892
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 1: Any old person can as.

893
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 4: But yes, we're universal donors. But I do think that

894
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,760
Speaker 4: there's God, but the sam Fleas are. It doesn't matter

895
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,919
Speaker 4: who you are. Everyone got say where they are.

896
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 3: They will eat coup, which I am. But this is

897
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 3: beautiful because you're going for work, yes, you're going for

898
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 3: personal occasions of like it's my birthday, it's my partner's birthday.

899
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 3: And then before we to ask you the question, like

900
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 3: talk about the experience of going to the like these

901
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 3: these these shows because of this album W two Must

902
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 3: Photos is like, oh my god, historic, gargantuan, changing album,

903
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 3: like the best.

904
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 2: Well, you know.

905
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 4: So I was there in July, which was like the

906
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 4: PA It was like the beginning of the tour, and

907
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 4: the energy in the island was like electric.

908
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 2: Because it was the beginning of the tour.

909
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 4: For the residents who live in Puerto Rico, it was

910
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 4: before the tours, and a lot of people did ask us.

911
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 4: They're like, are you here, like snagging tickets from locals,

912
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 4: and We're like, no, we came because.

913
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 2: We were thought of that.

914
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 4: Yes, So this is something that I'm going to tackle

915
00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 4: on the show. But it is there's a lot of

916
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 4: tension between Puerto Ricans that are from the island who

917
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 4: live on the island and those of us who live

918
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 4: here in the States, because there are socioeconomic struggles between

919
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 4: the two cultural divides. Like it's purposeful the way the

920
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 4: government has divided the communities. And I am hoping with

921
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 4: the show to kind of pridge that, but I come

922
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 4: up on that every time I show up. I am

923
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 4: trying to be like, no, look, I might be from

924
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 4: the States, but I am like here in liberation of

925
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 4: Puerto Rico to love and care for this island and

926
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 4: respect you those who are like here, because it.

927
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 2: Is hard to live in Puerto Rico. And they were

928
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 2: very excited in the summer.

929
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 4: I feel like in the summer people were like so

930
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 4: jazzed about the tour and about what was going on

931
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 4: on the island because that bunny did have like a

932
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 4: lot of stuff for locals to be able to do.

933
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 4: Like he was not only like surging the economy, but

934
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 4: he did like have all these events like he did,

935
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 4: like an art gallery at the a Museum of Fine Art,

936
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 4: like of like this Adidas collection that he did, of

937
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 4: all these shoesies designed for Adidas, like archival ones that

938
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 4: have never seen the light a day. He like did

939
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 4: this exhibit he did, Like in the plaza at Alcholi

940
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 4: is like the the concert hall in Puerto Rico that

941
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 4: he performed at. But in the plaza you didn't have

942
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 4: to have tickets to go and experience stuff outside, so

943
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 4: there was like food and drink and.

944
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 2: Like gift bags and like.

945
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,399
Speaker 4: Photo ops and so like you could enjoy the show

946
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 4: if you couldn't get tickets to the show, and then

947
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 4: they would give away tickets every night, like if you

948
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 4: waited in line, like there were like a handful of

949
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 4: tickets for those who weren't able to get them.

950
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 2: To get tickets.

951
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 4: So he was doing a lot for the people of

952
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 4: Puerto Rico, which is like I don't think people realize, like, yes,

953
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 4: it's capitalism, Yes it looks good for him to be

954
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 4: so for Puerto Rico, but I'm like, he really is

955
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 4: doing that, like he is like for the culture and

956
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 4: he's outside.

957
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 2: Like one thing I've.

958
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 4: Learned coming back and forth between Puerto Rico, what's the

959
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 4: expression can you tell me my partners in the room?

960
00:41:54,040 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: But how did you say it? In Spanish pertot.

961
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 4: Which means everybody is everybody's in bed with everybody? I

962
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 4: have like and I'm not exactly I've not been in

963
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 4: bed because I am loyally monogamous.

964
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 3: But so what did you say? You said that bad

965
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:17,760
Speaker 3: bunny is is out, he's.

966
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 4: Outside like people everybody knows each other, like I would've

967
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 4: learned going back and forth between Puerto Rico so many

968
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 4: times this year, is like every like it is a

969
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,240
Speaker 4: small island, like it's a powerful there's like or something

970
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 4: happening that like we're able to like amass such a

971
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 4: following and like have community in so many places and

972
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 4: like be such a loud voice in such a small place.

973
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 2: But everybody does know everybody like it.

974
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 4: Truly, I am like one degree separation from Bad Bunny

975
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 4: on like multiple accounts, like my designer for the show art,

976
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 4: which hopefully I'll be able to release this coming week.

977
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 4: Well obviously by the time this episode comes out, the

978
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 4: show art will be out. But I'm working with Nannette

979
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 4: who did the Choli Residency art for Bad Bunny.

980
00:42:59,200 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: Wow.

981
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 4: My good friend who's gonna be the first episode of

982
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 4: the show, Doro Melendez Barrio and his wife rosantea Ertiz.

983
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 4: They worked with Bad Bunny to do the visualizers for

984
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 4: his albums and their academics and the academics. I am

985
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 4: good friends with somebody whose cousin is like one of

986
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 4: Bad Bunny's main directors, and now we're in contact, we're chatting,

987
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 4: so it's like it's crazy, like he really is for

988
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 4: the people I say it to say, he's outside, he's

989
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 4: outside in the community networking with real Puerto Ricans and

990
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 4: he is really doing the work.

991
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 3: Like well, the presidency was like, oh, yes, bring it back,

992
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 3: said that I was saying. It was like it was

993
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 3: practical in the sense that it was like, there's fucking

994
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 3: and there's there's a violent assault on brown people in

995
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,919
Speaker 3: the mainland of America. Yes, I'm not touring there. Yeah,

996
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 3: and putting those people in dates absolutely come to me.

997
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,959
Speaker 4: Yes like that, and it's I feel like Puerto Rico

998
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 4: is a safe haven for a lot of like migrants

999
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 4: in the United States who can't go home. Yeah, because

1000
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 4: it is a US territory, so they can legally travel

1001
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 4: to Puerto Rico and experience like a Latin culture when

1002
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 4: they can't go back to their home countries because of

1003
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 4: their citizenship status or whatever. So I find that very

1004
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 4: beautiful that because it is like Puerto Rico. Yes, they

1005
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 4: speak English there, but all the signs are going to

1006
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 4: be in Spanish, and Puerto Rico, the locals do not

1007
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 4: want to talk to in English.

1008
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 2: They will look at you with full disdain that.

1009
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 4: You're not speaking them in Spanish. And yeah they are like,

1010
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 4: it is a Spanish, a fully Spanish speaking country. I

1011
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 4: don't think a lot of people understand that. I think

1012
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 4: they think, well, it's like Hawaii and it's like, well,

1013
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 4: that's why he had the song about Hawaii, because he's.

1014
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 2: Like, we don't want to be like Hawaii.

1015
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 4: We don't want to be a state and then end

1016
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 4: up with our culture being like American.

1017
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 2: Washed, you know.

1018
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 3: But to talk about the shows, yes.

1019
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 2: You guys know, I'm behave down. You guys know.

1020
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 3: You're about to say something.

1021
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 2: I'm about to say something crazy. It was better. It

1022
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 2: was better than and y'all know I had pit seats

1023
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 2: for Cowboy Car of.

1024
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 3: Course, I know.

1025
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: I remember the lead up.

1026
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was in the in the nose bleats of

1027
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 4: dibitis and I had a ball. It was the best

1028
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,240
Speaker 4: concert I've seen in my life. Wow, it was so

1029
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 4: much fun. It was like the whole energy in the room.

1030
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 4: It was like a true party. And honestly, what was

1031
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 4: really beautiful about the show. Everything was really cheap, like

1032
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 4: like the food and drink and everything. He did not

1033
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 4: mark up. They did not mark up for the locals.

1034
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 4: They really kept it very affordable because like, we go,

1035
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 4: what do we went to Madison Square Gardens.

1036
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: He Sabrina two drinks. It was crazy.

1037
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I got two drinks fifty bucks terrible.

1038
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 2: You know, I was able to get drinks for everybody.

1039
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: It was fifty all you know and Fraser and I

1040
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: think it was like it was truly like twenty of us.

1041
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: It was like over it was. It was three figures,

1042
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 1: yes for drinks, for drinks.

1043
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:54,280
Speaker 2: It was crazy.

1044
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 4: Whereas like we were able to feed me my mom.

1045
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 4: I also brought on a to Puerto Rico.

1046
00:45:58,400 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 2: For the show.

1047
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:00,479
Speaker 3: I remember that you guys had because we're.

1048
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 2: A producing team. I love that you guys have become

1049
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:04,760
Speaker 2: such friends. Oh yeah, that's my bestie.

1050
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 4: Yes, girl, because my girl, but no, I took her

1051
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:09,720
Speaker 4: with and we had such a ball.

1052
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 2: It was I did get COVID. I did fully. I

1053
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 2: will say I totally got COVID like the concert absolutely,

1054
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 2: Like it was totally fine.

1055
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: It's nice to get it somewhere memorable. It was like

1056
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: I got it in Mexico City.

1057
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was bad because I was like,

1058
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 2: there's no way this is the flu.

1059
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: It was like because I am because you were.

1060
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 2: Like one hundred plus fever. Like I was.

1061
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 4: Like, we were at a restaurant and I was like,

1062
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 4: I don't think anybody believed me. I was like, I'm

1063
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 4: heading south, but they're like they're like, you haven't eaten

1064
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:40,919
Speaker 4: all day and I was like, because I am sick,

1065
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 4: I can feel my body is like actively shutting down.

1066
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 2: I was my fever was so bad.

1067
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 4: I was like, because a lot of Puerto Rican homes

1068
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 4: are like concrete or tile, I was laying on the

1069
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 4: tile because I was so hot, Like I could feel

1070
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 4: myself sweating and like nothing could break my fever. But

1071
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 4: it was worth it. It was bad money, it was

1072
00:46:59,000 --> 00:46:59,439
Speaker 4: worth it.

1073
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 3: It was worse for you to sit in the nosebleeds.

1074
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 3: And because his show is so like it's it's the

1075
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 3: tone of it is so warm and inviting and it's

1076
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 3: like a bath. He's like, yeah, the fact that he

1077
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 3: can convey that to you, like up in the nosebleeds

1078
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 3: and bring you in that is I mean that he's

1079
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 3: such a perfect show.

1080
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 4: Again, it's such a cool venue because it reminds me

1081
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 4: a lot of Barclay Center, not that it's easy to get.

1082
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:24,919
Speaker 2: I don't like going to Barkeley Center.

1083
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 4: I do enjoy a show at Barklay Center because I

1084
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 4: do feel like there's not a bad seat at Barklay Center.

1085
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 4: And similarly, it touly it was like there was not

1086
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 4: really a bad seat, but it was very cool.

1087
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 2: Because he had two.

1088
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 4: Stages right, which I'm sure everybody knows is by now,

1089
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 4: But it was cool because where we sat, we were

1090
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,399
Speaker 4: able to see both stages very well, so I didn't

1091
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 4: feel like I was like missing out on anything from

1092
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 4: being in the nosebleeds, like we were able to see

1093
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 4: like the main like stage that looked like al and

1094
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 4: then the house stage was the one that was like

1095
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 4: kind of in front of us, so we couldn't see

1096
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:54,959
Speaker 4: the front of the house, but the cameras were facing

1097
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 4: so like you could see it on the prompter the house,

1098
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 4: so you weren't missing out on that house.

1099
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 2: We were there the day. What's the movie he was

1100
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 2: in with?

1101
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: No?

1102
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 2: No, the other one?

1103
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 4: Uh, the the cos there when the cots stealing.

1104
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 2: People were there.

1105
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 3: Oh fine, it's Butler.

1106
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 4: But and he so like he was obviously he did

1107
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 4: all these viewers after being like I was high on

1108
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 4: ship out an edible he did like when you were

1109
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,280
Speaker 4: actively watching it, you were like, oh my god, he's

1110
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 4: trying so hard to be cool, like it like looked

1111
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 4: like he was like, yeah, I'm like cool he was,

1112
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 4: But instead he was just song and probably like INTI

1113
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 4: that he didn't speak any Spanish because like when the

1114
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 4: perell started, it was grat the way people were grinding

1115
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 4: in every aisle, to.

1116
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 2: The point my mom was like, y'all grind and I

1117
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 2: was like.

1118
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:50,399
Speaker 4: Carol d absolutely not. You are my mother. I Am

1119
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 4: not like gonna pereo in front of you. This is

1120
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 4: this is not what I was taught growing up. At

1121
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 4: the end of the day, you raised me in the South, we.

1122
00:48:58,360 --> 00:48:59,399
Speaker 2: Didn't raise in Puerto Rico.

1123
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 4: All of a sudden, her what came out and I

1124
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:04,879
Speaker 4: was like, love Orlando and I were like, but.

1125
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: You're like, okay, now you see your parent as they

1126
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: have been, as they were.

1127
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, this is who you were. I

1128
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 2: was like, you went out, my dad, this is crazy.

1129
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 3: That's fun.

1130
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,439
Speaker 4: But yeah, it was. It was a time of my life.

1131
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 4: It truly was like such a like eye opening and

1132
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 4: heartwarming trip because that trip also we went to LaSala Libre,

1133
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,399
Speaker 4: which was like this project done by Mikey Correro, who's

1134
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:27,919
Speaker 4: one of the first interviews I do for the show,

1135
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 4: but he is part of this project called Asparico, which

1136
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 4: is bringing or not bringing, but highlighting the stories of

1137
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 4: Dasperricans like those Porto Ricans and the Daspara that are

1138
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 4: making a pilgrimage back to the Puerto Rico and building

1139
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 4: a life in Puerto Rico and kind of highlighting like

1140
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 4: the struggles but also the beauty of like reclaiming the

1141
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 4: island and how difficult it can be because you can

1142
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 4: feel very rejected, like I am.

1143
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 3: Definitely saying like this felt very rejected between people who

1144
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 3: are who live there and people who don't.

1145
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 4: But you have to like kind of build a thick

1146
00:49:58,080 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 4: skin and kind of get over it and know you

1147
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,479
Speaker 4: are building something for the greater good of Puerto Rico.

1148
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 4: I think when I had visited Puerto Rico younger, I

1149
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 4: was very intimidated by that.

1150
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 2: I felt very hurt.

1151
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 4: But now that I have more knowledge about why the

1152
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 4: people Puerto Rico feel that way and like what I

1153
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 4: can do to be it's almost like gentrification, right, It's like,

1154
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,720
Speaker 4: how can I be of service to this community instead

1155
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 4: of like actively gentrifying it. And so I think you

1156
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 4: have to, like with gentrification and people being upset with

1157
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 4: you about being in the neighborhoods, you have to like

1158
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 4: take it on the chin and then also be like

1159
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 4: how can I actually help you, know, like I have

1160
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 4: to live here or I have to be here or

1161
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 4: I want to be here. So how do I not

1162
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 4: be a parasite to this community? How do I be

1163
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 4: a part of the good in this community? And so

1164
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 4: I think I've become more comfortable in my skin and

1165
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,760
Speaker 4: being Portourian. I think if I ever nailed down my Spanish,

1166
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 4: I'll no longer feel like an outsider.

1167
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 2: But my Spanish is still masclementos.

1168
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, language is so interesting because I've gone through

1169
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 3: stages of this with the Mandarin of it.

1170
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 2: All, and like do your parents be English?

1171
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 1: They do.

1172
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, they are trying to like like get me back

1173
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 3: on the path of like let's just keep it to

1174
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 3: Mandarin between us exclusively. And I got to say, going

1175
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 3: to China this past summer, I was like, ooh, like

1176
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 3: this is this is like just the way, this is

1177
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 3: the means of communication literally, and of course that is

1178
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,240
Speaker 3: the most important thing to preserve. It is also something

1179
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 3: that like is completely on your own pace because your

1180
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 3: brain is your brain.

1181
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 2: Well, you know what I found out as an adult.

1182
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 4: I'm super dyslexic raly yes, and I have severe ADHD,

1183
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 4: which I'm sure maybe you guys knew.

1184
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 2: I didn't find this out until this year.

1185
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 1: You've never represented yourself as being thank you out of

1186
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: control with your attention.

1187
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, thank you so much.

1188
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 4: Because all my friends were like, girl, you didn't know,

1189
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 4: and I was like, no, I was never diagnosed until

1190
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 4: this year.

1191
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 3: Not the friends being at brunch. People's funny. I would

1192
00:51:58,080 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 3: never think of. I would never think of.

1193
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 2: Literally every one of my friends was like, we thought

1194
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 2: you knew, and I was.

1195
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, yeah yeah.

1196
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 4: But I'm also severely dyslexic, and I found out there

1197
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 4: is a correlation between like struggle with learning language and

1198
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 4: dyslexia because I've always.

1199
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 2: Struggled trying to learn Spanish.

1200
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 4: I have been taking Spanish classes since I was in

1201
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 4: seventh grade. I even during COVID, went out of my

1202
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 4: way to pay for like a really expensive program Spanish

1203
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 4: and bena. I guess it's not that expensive, but it

1204
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,399
Speaker 4: is like I spent my own harder money to pay

1205
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 4: for a class as an adult to try to learn Spanish,

1206
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 4: and I still like I understand it a lot more

1207
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 4: like I feel like if people were speaking to me,

1208
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 4: I can pretty much pick up what you're saying, but

1209
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 4: I totally freeze, like communicating back this.

1210
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,479
Speaker 3: This is what I did before before this China trip

1211
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 3: was this is not an ad prep lely where it's

1212
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 3: just like one on one like video lessons where these

1213
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 3: tutors are so good. At least you know the Mandarin ones.

1214
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 3: But I'm sure this christ applies to all the languages.

1215
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 3: It's like they they will very gently guide you back

1216
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 3: to being like, so you just said this, and you

1217
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 3: actually meant to say this, and let me write that

1218
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,359
Speaker 3: down in a document for you, and I.

1219
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 2: Will be because language, and then I can't spell.

1220
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 3: Anything right right right.

1221
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 2: I often say my words wrong.

1222
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 4: I didn't even figure out I was dyslexic kill I

1223
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 4: was dating my partner. We were dating probably like a

1224
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 4: year or so, and I was like looking up somewhere

1225
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 4: we were going and I was like reading a street sign.

1226
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 4: He's like, that's not what that said at all, and

1227
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 4: I was like what And he's like, are you dyslexic?

1228
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 2: And I was like and then I got tested and

1229
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 2: I was.

1230
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 4: Like, oh my god, I am, which honestly makes so

1231
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 4: much sense. I always struggled with like different things in academia.

1232
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 4: I was like always a really hard achieving student. But

1233
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 4: I think that was just like my own familial traumas

1234
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 4: and expectations, so.

1235
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: That was that was a different kind of pressure exactly exactly.

1236
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 4: So it was like I I succeeded out a survival,

1237
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 4: but not without intense challenges. And I definitely had remembered

1238
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 4: flagging to many people being like I am struggling, Like

1239
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,320
Speaker 4: I alway struggle with critical reads, even though English is

1240
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 4: my favorite class, and I like always was an amazing writer,

1241
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,959
Speaker 4: but a reader, I was always struggling. And so many

1242
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,760
Speaker 4: doctors though as a woman, as a woman of color,

1243
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 4: I think as a child, they just like dismiss you.

1244
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 4: They're like, yeah, yeah, but like you'll figure it out.

1245
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 4: You have good grades, so like there's nothing to worry about.

1246
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 4: But then in reality it's like it's now I'm looking back,

1247
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh yeah, it was so prevalent my issues.

1248
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:24,760
Speaker 3: There's like a fundamental thing. The other thing about language

1249
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 3: is it's this like raw opening you sorry for people

1250
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 3: to like for people to like assess how much of

1251
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 3: the culture you are part of. And it's so interesting

1252
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 3: because you understand it on some level. But it is

1253
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,399
Speaker 3: the thing of like I don't know, like.

1254
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 4: Well, I think a lot of people hold on to

1255
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:54,240
Speaker 4: the language because it is so attached to your culture,

1256
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 4: and so to look at you and you don't speak it,

1257
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 4: it's like almost to be like the privilege you have

1258
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 4: to not have not learn our language because you are

1259
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 4: in these other spaces and you're able to navigate these

1260
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 4: other spaces. And I think the not knowing English is

1261
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 4: like also attached to like not just your assimilation, but

1262
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 4: like your socioeconomic status, like your.

1263
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 2: Ability to.

1264
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 4: Blend into these different circles that they do not have

1265
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 4: the same privilege. So it's like I have much more

1266
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,359
Speaker 4: empathy now to those who have given me.

1267
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 2: A hard time.

1268
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 4: But I will say for many years it was a

1269
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 4: deep rooted, like ough like pain of mind that I

1270
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 4: did not know and something I like held against my

1271
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 4: parents for many, many many years.

1272
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 2: But now with enough.

1273
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 4: Therapy and age, I'm like they were doing their best,

1274
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 4: you know, Like I can't fault them for the choices

1275
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 4: they made to hopefully give me a better life. You know,

1276
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 4: it was a conscious choice they made to not teach

1277
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 4: me Spanish, but it wasn't like out of malice, you know,

1278
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 4: And I have to remember that totally.

1279
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 3: It's like being a beneficiary of a system or a

1280
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 3: circumstance that you had no control over. It, Yeah, and

1281
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 3: that you did not design yea, and you all you

1282
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 3: can do is just have an understanding of like where

1283
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 3: it all comes from. And the fact that you're doing

1284
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 3: this podcast, going there seeking out people who will we'll

1285
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 3: be able to like fill in a shade of knowledge

1286
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 3: for you.

1287
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:22,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, is like I mean, this podcast, it's been I've

1288
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,399
Speaker 4: had this idea for many years. Like I actually got

1289
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 4: my job at iHeart because of this podcast. In a

1290
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:31,359
Speaker 4: little like circumvent way. I Heart did this fellowship that

1291
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 4: our producer Anna created, call Next Up about four years ago.

1292
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 4: I had seen it because I was a listener of

1293
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 4: the Daily Zeitgeist and heard an ad for it. And

1294
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 4: at that time I was an advertising still and I

1295
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 4: wanted to get out advertising.

1296
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 2: It was Covid.

1297
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 4: I had these big dreams. I was like, I can't.

1298
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 4: I mean, it was radicalized by Covid. I was like,

1299
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:52,879
Speaker 4: I cannot be selling ads for there were my life.

1300
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 4: This cannot be for me.

1301
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1302
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 4: But I had worked on this podcast at the agency

1303
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 4: I worked at in Portland called Anchigo's and it was

1304
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 4: a woman to color travel platform podcasts and it was

1305
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 4: really fun. We had won an iHeart Award at an

1306
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 4: independent show which was really cool. But I just was like,

1307
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 4: looking back during COVID all the things I enjoyed doing,

1308
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 4: and I was like, I liked doing that, I liked

1309
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:14,800
Speaker 4: curing it, curating events in Portland.

1310
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 2: None of the things I.

1311
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 4: Enjoyed doing had to do with advertising, So I was like,

1312
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 4: how do I get to do those things? And I

1313
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 4: knew I had to be a producer of sorts. But

1314
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 4: then before all that, I hear the ad and I'm like, Okay,

1315
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 4: I think I'll just pitch a podcast idea. And so

1316
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 4: I had two ideas. One of them I'm like, oh, well,

1317
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 4: that was such a stupid idea. But one of them

1318
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 4: was this Puerto Rico podcast. It didn't look the way

1319
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 4: it looks now, but it was like, oh, a podcast

1320
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 4: about the history of Puerto Rico. That was like my

1321
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 4: soft pitch because the application didn't require you to do

1322
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 4: like a crazy pitch. It was like getting people who

1323
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 4: were not in the industry to be in the industry.

1324
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 4: And so I had applied and I didn't get it,

1325
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 4: and I was so.

1326
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 1: Don't worry. Don't worry because what she had said, because

1327
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 1: I remember I was talking to I'm pointing to I

1328
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 1: don't know but I had talked to you about Becca,

1329
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 1: probably like a like six or seven months ago, just

1330
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 1: about how amazing you are. And she was saying like

1331
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: that you were in the fellowship, but it became so

1332
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 1: clear that you were overqualified. Omost immediately yes, So then

1333
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 1: you became our producer.

1334
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 4: Yes, because basically I had bullied Ana entiring me because

1335
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 4: I was like, this is going to change my life.

1336
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 2: This is what happened. I was like, this is this

1337
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 2: is going to change my life.

1338
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 4: I was like I know in my heart, A heart's

1339
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 4: like this is going to change my life. I need

1340
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 4: to like figure this out. So I had applied it

1341
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 4: and get it. I email Anna and I'm like, hey,

1342
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 4: like why did I get it?

1343
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: There was some mistake.

1344
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1345
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 4: I was like I was like please, I'll do anything.

1346
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 4: And then she was like you're overqualified.

1347
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 3: Oh that's why.

1348
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 1: But I still tell you that when you don't get it,

1349
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 1: nod too many people.

1350
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 4: She had, she had so many people to notify because

1351
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 4: then I helped out the next year and I was.

1352
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 2: Like, I see gotcha.

1353
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 4: I I was like, okay, well, if there's any way

1354
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 4: I can like work here, like this is what I

1355
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 4: dream and so on, and I just stayed in conversation

1356
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 4: for months and finally she was like, I actually am

1357
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 4: hiring a part time producer, Like that was the offer.

1358
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 4: They were like, well, I've been begging for help. They

1359
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 4: finally greenlt me to hire a part time producer, and

1360
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 4: so I had submitted something to like be in contract,

1361
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 4: and then they were like, you know what, let's just

1362
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 4: hire you full time. And then and then and then

1363
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 4: I became your host.

1364
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 1: Producer and we're we the first and only show you.

1365
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 4: It was you and The Daily Zeit guys, because I

1366
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 4: feel its a lot of people when you're hired on

1367
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 4: the LA team, you end up on the Daily Zeit

1368
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 4: guys because it's a well oil machine. It's Jack show,

1369
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 4: you know, the head of development, and it's I think

1370
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 4: a great intro show for anybody because it's daily. So

1371
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 4: you really are just like from the beginning having to

1372
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 4: like be on it, work it, figure out what's going.

1373
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 4: There's all these moving pieces. So it was you guys.

1374
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 4: It was Daily Zeike geys. And then I had hopped

1375
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 4: on in a couple shows that like you know, had

1376
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 4: one to two seasons. I did Blair Sockey Show, which

1377
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 4: was like a lot of fun. I did this is

1378
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 4: twenty twenty twenty twenty one, December twenty one.

1379
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 1: I just we met you on zoom.

1380
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 2: We met on zoom.

1381
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 1: Zoom. Do you remember your first episode of Last Culch.

1382
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 4: I don't remember the exact first episode, but one of

1383
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 4: was a virtual Julio Taurus.

1384
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 2: Yes, because at that.

1385
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 4: Time, his uh, his little oh what's it called location

1386
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 4: scout was scouting my apartment for Problemista.

1387
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 3: Oh my god, yes, because like I.

1388
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 4: Remember going downstairs one day and I see this little

1389
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 4: crumpled up note in like the cinder block that we

1390
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 4: used up prop the door open, and I was like,

1391
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 4: and I clearly nobody else in my building gave a

1392
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 4: funk about this like note, but I was so curious

1393
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 4: and I was like, what is this? And so I

1394
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 4: pull it out and it's like this typed out letter

1395
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 4: that's like, hello, I am working on a project for

1396
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 4: Julio Taurus and we would love to use the second

1397
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 4: floor unit of this building.

1398
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 2: And I just know well and and.

1399
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 4: So and it was like, please contact whatever whatever and

1400
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 4: mind you. I had like a really kind of like

1401
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 4: interesting landlord at that time. He was this older man

1402
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 4: who was like an ex cop and like it was

1403
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 4: a small building. It was like only four units, and

1404
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 4: he definitely like operated like a cop, you know, he was,

1405
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 4: what that's time, Yes, okay, yes, yes, And so it

1406
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:17,919
Speaker 4: was like a black owned building. It was like all

1407
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 4: black tenants, and so I think he like thought like, well,

1408
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 4: like I'm helping you guys out, you help me. But

1409
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 4: it was like very like con like between the two

1410
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 4: of us, this relationship that I was like, why do

1411
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm like talking to my dad every

1412
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 4: time I talk to you, that I'm like gonna disappoint you,

1413
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 4: and that you're mad at me all the time and

1414
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 4: I can't ask you for anything. It was very strange,

1415
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 4: and so I knew that he would not bite like

1416
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 4: doing this. But I texted the second floor because it

1417
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 4: wasn't my you. Now I was on the third floor.

1418
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 4: I texted the second floor guys because there are these

1419
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 4: two young guys who I think work in tech and

1420
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 4: they were smoking so much.

1421
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 2: We'd our apartment small like we'd but I text him.

1422
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 4: I was like, yo, like they're gonna pay you to

1423
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 4: like run this unit. He was like you should do it,

1424
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 4: like this is cool, and they.

1425
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 2: Never reached it.

1426
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I could tell that that that s where

1427
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 4: like what.

1428
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 2: My unit was supposed to be filmed for in the scene.

1429
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 4: Based on watching the movie, I was like, oh, this

1430
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:09,919
Speaker 4: scene is in Bedsteye and definitely this scene was meant

1431
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 4: to be my apartment.

1432
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 3: Like like like where he goes back to the apartment

1433
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 3: like all of his roommates.

1434
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 4: No, no, that is the scene with the guy who tries

1435
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 4: to hire Julio.

1436
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 3: Oh yes, yes, yes, to clean his house.

1437
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, to clean his house.

1438
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, his house. So yeah, you're.

1439
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 1: Also a Loss Spookies fan, like yo, I'm I was like.

1440
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 4: So, I was like so excited when I saw that,

1441
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 4: but I was like, I, it's not my unit.

1442
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 2: I can't really do it.

1443
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 4: And I was like and my landlord is definitely not

1444
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 4: going to buy about this. So I was like, I'm

1445
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 4: not even I'm not touching this with Tempa Pole. But

1446
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 4: I was like, in theory, this was very cool. It's

1447
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 4: a thing that happened to me.

1448
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:44,959
Speaker 1: But and for that to be one of your first

1449
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 1: episodes of Lost Coast, yeah.

1450
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 2: And then I was like, oh my god. And the

1451
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 2: Julio because I've been.

1452
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 4: A fan of Julio for years and before that, I

1453
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 4: just think he's such a fun and interesting.

1454
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 2: I love like the weird Latino community.

1455
01:02:56,720 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 4: I think he represents like the weirdos in the Latino community,

1456
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 4: which I love because I was like, I think when

1457
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 4: you are a misfit and wherever you grow up, you

1458
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 4: end up leaning in this emo world, which I was

1459
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 4: like a full emo, like like warp tour, going topic

1460
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 4: like like black eyeliner, tumbler girl, straight bangs like emo.

1461
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 3: I want I want to meet that Beca. I want

1462
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 3: to I want to meet sorority back up er. We

1463
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 3: haven't even asked. Were just shooting the fucking breeze. You know,

1464
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 3: we got to ask you the question, Beca Ramas. What

1465
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 3: was the culture that made you say culture is for you?

1466
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 4: Oh?

1467
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:46,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. I have two kind of leaning into the emo.

1468
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 4: They're both leaning into the EMO, and I kind of

1469
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 4: just mentioned one of them.

1470
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 3: Uh.

1471
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 2: The first one is Twilight.

1472
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 1: Do you mean the books? I mean everything, everything Stephanie

1473
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 1: Meyer was a weird walk for you.

1474
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I because I was never a Harry Potter

1475
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 4: by my brother was big Harry Potter. Even my parents

1476
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 4: like read all the Harry Potter but it would.

1477
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 1: Be a slight generational thing.

1478
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 4: Yes, my brother and I are only a year and

1479
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 4: a half apart. I think though he was an early reader.

1480
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 4: My brother is kind of he's very very smart. My

1481
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 4: brother's like stupid smart, like like maths savant, like double

1482
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 4: major and engineering and math like he is like we're

1483
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 4: like this like like no Ven diagram oil water in

1484
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 4: terms of how our brains work. And so he was

1485
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 4: like an early early reader, and he loved Harry Potter,

1486
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 4: and my parents started to read Harry Potter because they

1487
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 4: wanted to make sure that like the books were like

1488
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 4: okay for children, so they read them before and then

1489
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 4: they fell in love with them. But I was like,

1490
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 4: I tried. I read the first book like three times.

1491
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 4: I was like, I can't get into it the movies

1492
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 4: because of cinema, but you know, I couldn't get into

1493
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 4: the books. And now it doesn't even matter because she's disgrace.

1494
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 4: So I feel I feel dedicated. Not that seventy Myers

1495
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 4: any better, but you know, she well, she's just like

1496
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 4: deeply Mormon, and I think there's you know, it's not

1497
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 4: as black and white.

1498
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 2: I say, yeah, you know.

1499
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 1: But what was it about Twilight?

1500
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 4: I think it is inherently pretty horny for a young

1501
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 4: girl they're reading it and because I actually, okay, do

1502
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 4: y'all know that she wrote another book during COVID, except I.

1503
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 1: Think I had heard this and it was not it.

1504
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 2: Was It was called Midnight Sun and it is a

1505
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 2: star Larson.

1506
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 3: Wow, it's a mirror.

1507
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 4: It's a mirror of the first book, Twilight, but from

1508
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 4: Edward's perspective. And I during COVID, because we were in

1509
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 4: lockdown and shambles, like conspiracy theories that happening on TikTok,

1510
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 4: people were like, why do Stephanie Meyer has a website

1511
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 4: up and a countdown? And sure enough she was selling

1512
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 4: the book during COVID, and I pre ordered it on

1513
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 4: Amazon just for shits and giggles. And then one day,

1514
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 4: three months later, it showed up out my door and

1515
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 4: I was like, I didn't order anything.

1516
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 2: I forgot how to order the book.

1517
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 4: So I read it during COVID because I had all

1518
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 4: this time on my hands, and then I was transported

1519
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 4: to like eight or ten of your old backa and

1520
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 4: I was like, I should not have been reading this

1521
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 4: because it is like the power dynamics at play. It

1522
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 4: is like, as an adult with like a fully formed brain,

1523
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 4: You're like, no, it's like weird that this hundred year

1524
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 4: old vampires into like seventeen year old you know, Christmas

1525
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 4: sewer Bella Swan.

1526
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 3: Right, Like you've been manipulated by men older than you

1527
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 3: as well, yes.

1528
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 4: And so you're like, oh and but like as a child,

1529
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 4: who is like at this time in my life, I'm

1530
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 4: so like, I'm boy crazy, right, hormones are crazy.

1531
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 2: But also no one likes me. So I'm like, I'm

1532
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 2: hormone crazy. I no one likes me.

1533
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:35,919
Speaker 4: So I'm like reading this book and it's like this

1534
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 4: deep love story where it's like you're convinced this control

1535
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 4: is love. Right, So you're reading this like codependency, and

1536
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 4: you're like, it's so romantic. He's so enabbered by her,

1537
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 4: like he's just like his her smell is so intoxicating,

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01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 4: like she can't be with anybody else. You know, as

1539
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 4: a child you're like, oh my god, that's romance, And

1540
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 4: as an adult you're like, that's dear to be consumed.

1541
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 1: That actually sounds kind of good.

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01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:00,040
Speaker 4: Yes, And so I was like, and I think I

1543
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 4: also just like really love that fantasy realm, Like I've

1544
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 4: never been into like sci fi, but like true fantasy,

1545
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 4: like the vampires, which like that was my le I

1546
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 4: liked that type of.

1547
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:13,120
Speaker 3: Stuff, supernatural, supernatural.

1548
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:16,479
Speaker 1: Yes, I natural your girl, but.

1549
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:20,080
Speaker 4: Yes, I loved all the supernatural stuff. And then the

1550
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 4: movies come out right.

1551
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 2: And they're cold classic.

1552
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 4: I was at the premieres like I was Midnichael, Team Edward,

1553
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 4: like aggressive team Edward.

1554
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 2: Maybe I just had a crution on Robert Pattins.

1555
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 1: Saying we'll look back fondly on those movies now, like

1556
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 1: even rewatched a sequel.

1557
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 2: I take a rewatch every fall of all them, of

1558
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 2: all of.

1559
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:42,480
Speaker 4: Them because it's fun, especially Twilight specific, because Twilight was

1560
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 4: an indie production and it is a lot of fun.

1561
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 3: Remember those soundtracks Alex Pasabas music supervisor, f Form, the

1562
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 3: oc Grays Anatomy, incredible sound American.

1563
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, absolutely underrated, so good underrated soundtrack and like

1564
01:07:57,840 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 4: mind dude. This is also then connected with hot talk

1565
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 4: every floods hot topic because you know Parmors in.

1566
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 1: The sound draft, this hot topic your second culture.

1567
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 2: Well, no hot topic was just where Twilight lived.

1568
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 3: You're talking about to the mall.

1569
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 2: Culture emo.

1570
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 4: You know, I think if you were like in the

1571
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 4: if you were Twilight heavy, you were also very emo.

1572
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:19,879
Speaker 4: It was just kind of and then my second culture Tumblr,

1573
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 4: and and you were deep on the tumbler edits.

1574
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:25,839
Speaker 2: You were deep on the shirt list Edward.

1575
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:29,559
Speaker 1: But this is a remember I remember an image of

1576
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 1: him like walking out into daylight. Yes, that broke the internet.

1577
01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 1: It was one of the first examples I remember of

1578
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:38,680
Speaker 1: the internet breaking. It was like a leaked image of

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01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 1: Robert Pattinson with no shirt walking out of I believe,

1580
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 1: like some sort of cathedral or church into the sunlight.

1581
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 1: And everyone was like, can can we breathe? I don't

1582
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 1: think anyone I can breathe.

1583
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:53,679
Speaker 2: I can breathe. I was you love you were teams

1584
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:54,880
Speaker 2: I was, I were down.

1585
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 4: I did not give a fuck about Taylor Lawner. I

1586
01:08:57,160 --> 01:09:00,719
Speaker 4: was like my my friends were I think team Jacob.

1587
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:02,600
Speaker 4: But I was like, I'm team out because like the

1588
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 4: romance was between Edward and Bella, Like if you're reading

1589
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:09,040
Speaker 4: the books, the actual love story, love love story is

1590
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:10,240
Speaker 4: between the two of them, So I think I was

1591
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:11,680
Speaker 4: a very romance spear.

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01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 1: It would be like being like I like Gail in

1593
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 1: the Hunger Games. It's like we all know Cantinas and

1594
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 1: Peter are going to be like exactly.

1595
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 2: Exactly.

1596
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 3: But when you say tumbler culture, Yeah. Do you do

1597
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 3: you agree with the following statement Tumblr had monoculture or

1598
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 3: do you agree with this statement, which is Tumblr was

1599
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 3: different lanes. We were all in our different like it

1600
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 3: was at the beginning of like the Algorithm, where it's

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01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 3: we all have our special corners of the Internet. What

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01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 3: do you think it was all streamlined in one.

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01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:48,680
Speaker 4: That is a hard question because I do think it's

1604
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:51,719
Speaker 4: a little bit of both. I think as Tumblr became

1605
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 4: more mainstream, it did become like there was a idea

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01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 4: of what tumbler culture is and tumbler aesthetic. But I

1607
01:09:57,800 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 4: think at the beginning, if you were on in like

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01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:04,639
Speaker 4: twenty ten, like I was, then it was very silo,

1609
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:07,800
Speaker 4: which it's almost like why I think gravitated TikTok when

1610
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:09,840
Speaker 4: TikTok kind of took off, because it was kind of

1611
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 4: feeding your algorithm. And same thing with Tumblr was like

1612
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 4: I was following these blogs that like were like these

1613
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:17,920
Speaker 4: different fandoms that I enjoyed, and I was reposting. I

1614
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 4: was reblogging those things, but I also was like writing

1615
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 4: on Tumblr. Like I was never Tumblr famous, but it

1616
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 4: was like a true outlet for me as a young kid.

1617
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 4: I am left handed, so I'm not very good at writing.

1618
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 4: I was never taught properly to write, so and I

1619
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:35,559
Speaker 4: think my undiagnosed ADHD. I had a hard time pen

1620
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 4: to paper. My brain was moving faster than my handcut,

1621
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 4: so I would type. I would like write in ten

1622
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:45,639
Speaker 4: stories on Tumblr, like and more like like biographical memoir,

1623
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:49,559
Speaker 4: like journal entries, but like I was a journaler on Tumblr.

1624
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:52,960
Speaker 2: I was writing, writing, writing a heartbreak, like all these

1625
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 2: different things going on. I would love access to it.

1626
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah you do.

1627
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, only I think I've shared with one or

1628
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 4: two people my whole life my Tumblr, Like I'm like,

1629
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 4: do you know it?

1630
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:03,760
Speaker 1: You've seen it?

1631
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:07,320
Speaker 4: He's special enough, but it took years in stating for

1632
01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:09,360
Speaker 4: me to give it to him, Like years, beautiful.

1633
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 2: I told him.

1634
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 1: I was like, what's opening your heart? When you tumble,

1635
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 1: you open your heart. That's real culture number of thirty.

1636
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 1: When you open your tumbler, you open your heart.

1637
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 4: No, it was because like it is like fourteen year

1638
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:22,599
Speaker 4: old me sobbing on the keyboard about like my first love,

1639
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:25,600
Speaker 4: you know, like it is like intense the things I

1640
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 4: would write on there.

1641
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:30,520
Speaker 3: But yeah, but like in fan fiction on tumb reposting,

1642
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 3: it is like the key thing on Tumblr that I

1643
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 3: think are re sharing what was it called reblogging blog?

1644
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

1645
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 2: I mean it's all the same ship.

1646
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 4: They all all the tech companies remade the same terms over.

1647
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 3: They are rereading red between. But reblogging was interesting because

1648
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:52,600
Speaker 3: what said tumbler apart from I want to say, like

1649
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:56,360
Speaker 3: blogger like my Space, my Space, let's throw it all

1650
01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 3: the way back to fucking zanga. Ya's like, oh, there's

1651
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:01,759
Speaker 3: a rate of like pro liftferrate what one person puts

1652
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:05,800
Speaker 3: out there, whether it's an image, meme, video, anything. Yeah,

1653
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:11,640
Speaker 3: Like Tumblr kind of like gave the right like delivery

1654
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:14,080
Speaker 3: system for like what would come and like TikTok and

1655
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 3: then regressively somehow Instagram, how Instagram became like snapshot.

1656
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 4: Because now also but on Instagram now you have the

1657
01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 4: carousels or are doing the screenshots which are basically the reblogs.

1658
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:26,599
Speaker 4: Literally some of them are screenshots of reblogs on Tumblr.

1659
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:29,160
Speaker 4: Because on Tumblr, I think the beauty of it other

1660
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 4: than like other forums, was like when you reblogged, you

1661
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 4: could like add your own little clip to it and

1662
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:36,840
Speaker 4: then that goes viral. Yeah, all the notes it's like,

1663
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:39,799
Speaker 4: oh my god, you got eighty thousand notes she's crazy

1664
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:40,639
Speaker 4: but never made.

1665
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:44,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was never find hard to pop off. Honestly,

1666
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 2: I was like I kept that shit to myself. I

1667
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:47,480
Speaker 2: liked Tumblr.

1668
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 4: I think in the way that I enjoyed TikTok for

1669
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 4: a while that it was very like, uh, I could

1670
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 4: hide behind it sure, like people didn't know my Tumblr.

1671
01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 4: Like it was like my tumbler wasn't your profile, it

1672
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:00,760
Speaker 4: wasn't your face. It was like, you know, whatever my

1673
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 4: Tumblr url was, and like whatever I wanted to, I

1674
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 4: could be whoever I wanted in this blog space.

1675
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 2: So I like the anonymity of it.

1676
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 4: And that's how I viewed TikTok for me, because I

1677
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:14,479
Speaker 4: wasn't following people back or anything. I was just re

1678
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:18,680
Speaker 4: like reposting whatever in my own feed, and I liked

1679
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 4: the anonymity of like I could have content without following anybody. Yeah,

1680
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:24,759
Speaker 4: I could just like be fed things that I enjoyed

1681
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 4: and like, no one needs to know that I'm on TikTok.

1682
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, similar to the way I was on Tumblr.

1683
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:32,799
Speaker 3: But but I guess me asking those two separate questions

1684
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:36,599
Speaker 3: earlier is like I'm not I'm still My thought is

1685
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:39,640
Speaker 3: like oh yes, wi tumbler feels so romantic because it's

1686
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 3: like TikTok is purely.

1687
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 2: I mean a mess.

1688
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:44,760
Speaker 3: It's a mess, and it's but it's it's cool, but

1689
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:48,519
Speaker 3: it's also like completely individualized in the algorithm, and sometimes

1690
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 3: there's moments of like.

1691
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 4: There's not a community on TikTok where there is community

1692
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:55,720
Speaker 4: or was on Tumblr. But I think with Tumblr that

1693
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:58,680
Speaker 4: was also really interesting is yeah, you have these monocultures

1694
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:02,800
Speaker 4: where it's like the on a delrays the skinny, like

1695
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 4: the red pil skinniness. So of Tumblr, like where you

1696
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 4: were like being fed to be like thy gap culture

1697
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:12,679
Speaker 4: and like all these if you were a girl on Tumblr,

1698
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 4: it was like depending on what side of tumbler you

1699
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:21,320
Speaker 4: were on, really rough like cause and I was like luckily,

1700
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 4: I mean now, I am a very curvacous woman and

1701
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 4: I am proud of that. But I wasn't growing up

1702
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:31,640
Speaker 4: and I was naturally very like tiny, like I was

1703
01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:35,719
Speaker 4: very skinny, so I didn't fall susceptible into the skinny culture.

1704
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 4: But because I was already luckily, it bene fishery of it.

1705
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 4: And I do think if I was the size that

1706
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 4: I am now, then I would have been wrecked. But

1707
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:47,720
Speaker 4: that was that was Tumblr culture, like the Dancing, the

1708
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 4: Skinny Girl, the ballet, Like. The goal was to be

1709
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 4: as like slender and emo and like cigarette Like I

1710
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:55,160
Speaker 4: wanted to smoke a cigarette so bad as a Tumblr,

1711
01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 4: but I like to have my deep anxieties.

1712
01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:58,960
Speaker 1: I was like, I can never go up being the

1713
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 1: kind of person that you were in high school. No,

1714
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:02,920
Speaker 1: because your parents could never have found out the cigarette. No,

1715
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:05,000
Speaker 1: I'd be murdered, the worst thing in the world. But

1716
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 1: I wanted to I wanted.

1717
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 3: To be cool.

1718
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:08,679
Speaker 2: I wanted to be like Alana Race cigarette smoking.

1719
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 1: Are you a Lona Giry? Oh yeah.

1720
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:13,800
Speaker 2: I was a lot of girly, absolutely like that.

1721
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 4: And but I feel like I was Lana a little

1722
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:18,320
Speaker 4: bit after the mark because I was so emo for

1723
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:21,040
Speaker 4: so long on Tumblow, Like I was like deep pair more.

1724
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:23,759
Speaker 4: I was like in these bands that like were touring

1725
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 4: Warped Tour, like Mayday Parade and like, uh, I don't

1726
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:33,040
Speaker 4: even know other like uh, Black Parade, my Chemical Romance,

1727
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:36,680
Speaker 4: Panic at the disco, We're like okay, Like that was my.

1728
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:39,240
Speaker 1: World for Katy Perry when she was on warp I

1729
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 1: went to work.

1730
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 4: Tour in Katy Perryes, I worked to her that was

1731
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 4: a lot of fun. And then she like, I mean

1732
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 4: she was with three oh.

1733
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:49,400
Speaker 1: Three her whole first album, not first album, because the

1734
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 1: first album was the Christian one under Katie Hudson. But

1735
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:53,719
Speaker 1: then the first album is like one.

1736
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 2: Of the boys, I was there, what's the other ones?

1737
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 2: Cora Starship?

1738
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 3: Is that good girl's God with Lton Sir?

1739
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 1: Wow?

1740
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 2: No, that was me for a long time.

1741
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:10,600
Speaker 4: And then I probably hit the Lana streak when I

1742
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 4: got to college.

1743
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 1: So what is that like? Ultra violence? Yeah?

1744
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:26,560
Speaker 2: Like, what is it? Cherry Cola? My eyes are wide

1745
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:30,559
Speaker 2: like Cherry pap love that I was and I saw

1746
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:32,879
Speaker 2: her at a city limits.

1747
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:37,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I was an a c L girl for

1748
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 4: all of college because like, if you're in college, I

1749
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:40,879
Speaker 4: think it's a right of passage.

1750
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 2: If you are a college student in Texas, you have

1751
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:43,840
Speaker 2: to go to a cl That's.

1752
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:45,840
Speaker 1: When we discovered Lana del Rey on this podcast. You

1753
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:48,839
Speaker 1: probably were in the corner, like cheese this fucking christ.

1754
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 4: I was like I was on some random dude shoulder

1755
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 4: because my boyfriend at the time abandoned me to go

1756
01:16:53,479 --> 01:16:56,639
Speaker 4: to a Texas Baylor football game. Different boyfriend, by the way,

1757
01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 4: but I literally we bought tax a cl took out

1758
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 4: as a unit, me, him and his roommate and they

1759
01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 4: were like, we gotta go to the coach football game.

1760
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:08,479
Speaker 4: And I was like, uh, we're here for a cl

1761
01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:10,519
Speaker 4: and they're like, we're just gonna go to the game

1762
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:12,519
Speaker 4: and then we'll meet you later. Of course there's no service.

1763
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:16,639
Speaker 4: It's like a different era of phones connectivity. I phone dead,

1764
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 4: couldn't access anybody, didn't know how I was gonna end

1765
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 4: up where I was gonna end up, and so I

1766
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:23,880
Speaker 4: was just like, well, I can't have anxiety about this now,

1767
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:24,640
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna go.

1768
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 3: I run.

1769
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:29,679
Speaker 2: There some man who flew into.

1770
01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 4: A CL because he had like he was like a

1771
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:33,480
Speaker 4: festival junkie, had all these festival ristbands.

1772
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:34,000
Speaker 2: Uh.

1773
01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 4: He saw me standing there, my little five two ask

1774
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:37,360
Speaker 4: couldn't see ship.

1775
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:38,839
Speaker 2: He was like, do you want to get on my shoulders?

1776
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 4: And I was like yeah, So I saw Alna del rayan,

1777
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:44,680
Speaker 4: some random I think British man's shoulders.

1778
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:47,080
Speaker 2: It was kind enough to let me see the show.

1779
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 3: That man was Robert Patton.

1780
01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 2: And if only it was Robert Pattinson. That's a dream,

1781
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:52,599
Speaker 2: a girl.

1782
01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:55,720
Speaker 3: I bet I bet you that this fucking guy and

1783
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:57,880
Speaker 3: all his friends couldn't tell you a single thing now

1784
01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:01,040
Speaker 3: about what that fucking game was. Like, you're not gonna

1785
01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 3: don't ditch ACL for a game? Yeah, I mean so,

1786
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:05,559
Speaker 3: So the podcast comes out February third.

1787
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:06,800
Speaker 2: Podcast comes up every third.

1788
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:10,160
Speaker 1: February third is the day, and so like, how many

1789
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:13,200
Speaker 1: episodes do you have? Like, like, where are you at

1790
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 1: with it? This is a big it's a big deal.

1791
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 2: It's a big deal.

1792
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 4: I mean, like I had said, this idea came into

1793
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:25,479
Speaker 4: fruition in summer twenty twenty one, and I had put

1794
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:26,519
Speaker 4: it away for.

1795
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 2: A long time.

1796
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:29,680
Speaker 4: And then as I became a better producer and I

1797
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:32,599
Speaker 4: felt really confident in like my skills, I was like, Okay,

1798
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:34,759
Speaker 4: I think it's time for me to like redevelop this idea.

1799
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 4: And I did, and I pitched for a long time

1800
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:39,880
Speaker 4: and now we're here, And obviously now four years I'm

1801
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:42,800
Speaker 4: making is incredible. But February third, I already have four

1802
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 4: episodes done. The first episode is going to be narrative.

1803
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:48,360
Speaker 4: It's gonna be very vulnerable, it's gonna be me telling

1804
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:51,680
Speaker 4: my story. Why am I making the show biographical? But

1805
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 4: from there it's gonna be talk show. So I have

1806
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 4: three talk show episodes recorded in Puerto Rico. It was

1807
01:18:57,680 --> 01:18:59,639
Speaker 4: very important to me to come back all the way

1808
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:03,000
Speaker 4: to that to record the first few episodes in Puerto Rico,

1809
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 4: because I want the listeners to understand this is a

1810
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:10,759
Speaker 4: diasporic experience and that I think as a New Eurekan,

1811
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:13,200
Speaker 4: as someone who's Putrican lives in New York. It's very

1812
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:14,599
Speaker 4: easy when you say you're doing a show abut Puerto

1813
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:17,360
Speaker 4: Rico that people assume it's about New Yorkans and New

1814
01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 4: York Puerto Rican culture because New York is such an

1815
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:24,360
Speaker 4: important piece of Puerto Rico. But I wanted this to

1816
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:27,439
Speaker 4: be a bridging of the diaspora. So I wanted it

1817
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:30,280
Speaker 4: to be intentional to be shot partially in Puerto Rico,

1818
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 4: to show that, like I am coming there, I want

1819
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:36,720
Speaker 4: to bridge this gap. I want people to know that

1820
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:41,759
Speaker 4: this is what it's about. And I interviewed Jorel Melendes

1821
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 4: Barrio and or Santiago Ortiz. They're both professors, authors, incredible.

1822
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:49,200
Speaker 2: Folk to talk to. We talk about a little bit

1823
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:50,400
Speaker 2: about the history.

1824
01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:55,000
Speaker 4: The connection of the states and of the island, and

1825
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:57,439
Speaker 4: then also we get a little bit into the connection

1826
01:19:57,479 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 4: between Puerto Rico and Venezuela.

1827
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:00,880
Speaker 2: I know that's hot topic right now.

1828
01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:05,040
Speaker 4: We're not going to get into that on this podcast, but.

1829
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:04,720
Speaker 1: There is one.

1830
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:07,720
Speaker 3: But I don't do it.

1831
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 1: I do think this is what I wanted to start

1832
01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 1: talking about it.

1833
01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:14,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, but it's it's even outside of like the

1834
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:17,840
Speaker 4: current events of it all. There is historically a strong

1835
01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:19,599
Speaker 4: connection between Venezuela and Puerto Rico.

1836
01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 2: And Jorell is a historian.

1837
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:23,720
Speaker 4: I want him to talk about that because I was like,

1838
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:26,479
Speaker 4: it's so relevant right now, like people need to know.

1839
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:27,040
Speaker 2: I didn't know.

1840
01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:27,800
Speaker 3: Uh.

1841
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:31,479
Speaker 4: And then the second episode is with Ali Marifuerra and

1842
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:34,720
Speaker 4: she is a writer, like a culture writer, but she

1843
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 4: has lived in the Daspara between she went to grad

1844
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:39,919
Speaker 4: school here at NYU and I think somewhere in Boston

1845
01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:42,479
Speaker 4: or no, not at NYU, but she went to grad

1846
01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:46,120
Speaker 4: school in New York, I think Upstate, and then also

1847
01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 4: in Boston and now lives in Puerto Rico. She's doing

1848
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:53,360
Speaker 4: a boozy book club in Puerto Rico where she's trying

1849
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:55,880
Speaker 4: to like build community on the island. And she's also

1850
01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:58,280
Speaker 4: just so smart, she's so funny. She taught me about

1851
01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:02,360
Speaker 4: the Socialist college in Perto Rico that had no idea existed.

1852
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:05,280
Speaker 4: It's like one of the only publicly funded universities or

1853
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:07,040
Speaker 4: schools because I think she went there from like.

1854
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 2: Middle school through college.

1855
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 4: It's one of the only publicly funded schools in Puerto Rico,

1856
01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:14,680
Speaker 4: and it's also the only socialist school, so it's like

1857
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:16,600
Speaker 4: one of the only schools that talks about liberation of.

1858
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:18,800
Speaker 2: Puerto Rico, like history of Puerto Rico.

1859
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:23,040
Speaker 4: A lot of the school's state side and in Puerto

1860
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:25,679
Speaker 4: Rico do not talk about Puerto Rican history, and that's

1861
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:29,360
Speaker 4: purposeful because the less we know, the less angry we

1862
01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:31,720
Speaker 4: are for the freedom in liber region of Puerto Rico.

1863
01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 2: So Alan Marie was great.

1864
01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:36,280
Speaker 4: And then I talked to Mikey Cordero, which I already

1865
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 4: talked to you guys about, and all the amazing, incredible

1866
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 4: activism work he's been doing. But he's also from Bushwick originally,

1867
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:45,759
Speaker 4: so he's like kind of like slowly throughout his life

1868
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:48,599
Speaker 4: rebuilt this connection with the island, Like he grew up

1869
01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:52,080
Speaker 4: spending summers in Puerto Rico, and then eventually he became

1870
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:54,719
Speaker 4: a part of this giant activist artist group in college

1871
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:57,439
Speaker 4: and then just stayed in Puerto Rico, and like well

1872
01:21:57,479 --> 01:22:00,800
Speaker 4: slowly was I think spending more time split between New

1873
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:03,080
Speaker 4: York and Puerto Rico, and now he lives fully in

1874
01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:03,679
Speaker 4: Puerto Rico.

1875
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's amazing. I mean these are also these

1876
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:12,120
Speaker 3: are all such like three sixty narratives on diasporic experiences

1877
01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:15,160
Speaker 3: within the Puerto Rican community, where it's like it just

1878
01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 3: it comes just radially from all angles and it just

1879
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:22,920
Speaker 3: converges back very beautifully, like on the Island where you

1880
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:23,720
Speaker 3: got to talk to them.

1881
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:26,639
Speaker 4: Yes, And what I really wanted to do with the show,

1882
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:28,920
Speaker 4: I wanted to show that like kind of filled a

1883
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:31,439
Speaker 4: gap I needed growing up where I felt very even

1884
01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:33,720
Speaker 4: though I was fully Puerto Rican, I never had a

1885
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 4: question about being Puerto Rican because I had.

1886
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 2: Two port Rican parents.

1887
01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:39,400
Speaker 4: But I think just being somewhere where there is no

1888
01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:42,559
Speaker 4: Portrigan culture, I did feel very removed. I felt almost

1889
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:44,160
Speaker 4: like I think a lot of mixed race kids feel,

1890
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:47,120
Speaker 4: where you're like I'm neither this nor this, Like I'm

1891
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:50,880
Speaker 4: living here, but like I'm clearly othered by everyone around me.

1892
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:53,680
Speaker 4: But I also don't feel like Puerto Rican enough, And

1893
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:56,120
Speaker 4: so selfishly I like build this podcast to meat really

1894
01:22:56,160 --> 01:23:00,439
Speaker 4: dope Puerto Ricans doing really incredible shit for the island,

1895
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 4: for the community, for the liberation of Puerto Rico, and

1896
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:06,599
Speaker 4: just like highlighting what they're doing and like the incredible

1897
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:09,880
Speaker 4: art they're making and yeah, and then I get into

1898
01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 4: like their badrio stories, which are like moments that they

1899
01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:14,640
Speaker 4: felt like they really connected with their identity, like the

1900
01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:17,040
Speaker 4: first time they recognize they were really Puerto Rican.

1901
01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:18,400
Speaker 2: I feel like mine.

1902
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:21,360
Speaker 4: One of the examples I have is like I was

1903
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:23,719
Speaker 4: asked to be in this kinse when I was fifteen

1904
01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 4: by this person who was Dominican. We were not friends,

1905
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:29,360
Speaker 4: Like she was a classmate of mine and we both

1906
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:32,360
Speaker 4: knew we were like Latino, but we weren't really friends.

1907
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 3: This is in Texas.

1908
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:35,200
Speaker 4: This is in Texas, and so she was like, I

1909
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:36,640
Speaker 4: want you to be my kinenessa because she didn't enough

1910
01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 4: people for a kinse. But then like in joining her kinse,

1911
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:44,040
Speaker 4: I got increasingly bullied for not being Puerto Rican enough.

1912
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:46,799
Speaker 4: And I'm like, you asked me to be here because

1913
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:50,439
Speaker 4: you needed more bodies, and now your whole family's gonna

1914
01:23:50,439 --> 01:23:53,160
Speaker 4: bully me for not being Poturin enough. So then we're

1915
01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:55,160
Speaker 4: in the hair salon getting our hair done for these

1916
01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:57,240
Speaker 4: keense photos, which mind you being a part of Kanse

1917
01:23:57,360 --> 01:23:58,600
Speaker 4: is like being in a wedding, and I did not

1918
01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:01,400
Speaker 4: know that because this is my first can say, and

1919
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:02,560
Speaker 4: so then I was like, okay. And now all of

1920
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:04,040
Speaker 4: a sudden, my parents are mad that we're spending all

1921
01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:05,519
Speaker 4: this money to be in this woman's ken say that

1922
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:07,720
Speaker 4: we don't really know this family that we don't know,

1923
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:11,520
Speaker 4: And I'm texting my mom because these women are ferociously

1924
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:16,400
Speaker 4: bullying me fourteen and in Spanish also, and I recognize

1925
01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 4: it because my mom also chose to speak in Spanish

1926
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:21,040
Speaker 4: when she didn't want me to know something. So I

1927
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 4: was like, the tone I'm hearing is making fun of Becca.

1928
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:26,240
Speaker 4: So I'm texting my mom like holding back to yours,

1929
01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:27,879
Speaker 4: like everyone's being.

1930
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 1: Fun of me.

1931
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:30,640
Speaker 4: And because I don't speak Spanish, and then she comes us,

1932
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:33,320
Speaker 4: she's like where are you? And so she comes barreling

1933
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:35,600
Speaker 4: in and she's like, nobody will make fun of my

1934
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:38,360
Speaker 4: child for not being Puerto Rican enough, for not speaking Spanish,

1935
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:40,599
Speaker 4: and she's yelling at everybody in Spanish, or I think

1936
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:42,640
Speaker 4: she started yelling at everybody English, and she's like, and

1937
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:44,439
Speaker 4: I can yell at every band in Spanish because I

1938
01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:46,640
Speaker 4: speak both languages and so that she started yelling at

1939
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:48,000
Speaker 4: everybody in Spanish and then she pulled my.

1940
01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:48,840
Speaker 2: Little ass out of there.

1941
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:52,080
Speaker 4: And then she looked at me later and was like,

1942
01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:54,160
Speaker 4: you don't have to do this. If you don't want

1943
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:55,800
Speaker 4: to be in this kiinse, you don't have to be

1944
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:57,920
Speaker 4: in this kin se. And so then I didn't. I

1945
01:24:57,920 --> 01:24:58,559
Speaker 4: went to work to her.

1946
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and saw miss cat Kate and I probably did

1947
01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:04,080
Speaker 3: see Katy.

1948
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:06,719
Speaker 4: Perry Katy pre But yeah, that was like a moment

1949
01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:09,280
Speaker 4: where it was like, Okay, being being Porto Rican was

1950
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:11,800
Speaker 4: like very important for the story. And so I wanted

1951
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:14,400
Speaker 4: to hear more stories from other Puerto Ricans of the

1952
01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:16,680
Speaker 4: DASHPA that were like, what was a moment that was,

1953
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:19,200
Speaker 4: whether it was silly or serious or whatever, that really

1954
01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:22,600
Speaker 4: rooted you in your identity and made you like the

1955
01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:23,759
Speaker 4: boutiquo you are today.

1956
01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:27,360
Speaker 2: And then yeah, and then they.

1957
01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:29,680
Speaker 4: Give me recommendations of other art and cool shit that

1958
01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:31,799
Speaker 4: Portorigans are doing. I ask at the end of every episode,

1959
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:34,000
Speaker 4: I want to hear from them, like, who do you

1960
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:36,120
Speaker 4: think is really cool? Like give me a recommendation of

1961
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:38,880
Speaker 4: like a book you're reading, an artist you're listening to,

1962
01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:41,439
Speaker 4: an exhibit you're going to so that the listeners can

1963
01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:43,000
Speaker 4: also like find.

1964
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:44,240
Speaker 2: This other stuff.

1965
01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:46,880
Speaker 4: And also I guess before that there's a cheesemake corner

1966
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:49,600
Speaker 4: called cab where I just asked them to bring in

1967
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:52,280
Speaker 4: a little bit of like Chief May, whether it's serious

1968
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:54,080
Speaker 4: or not. That's how we kind of talked about Venezuela

1969
01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:56,880
Speaker 4: because when we recorded that, I had just landed right

1970
01:25:57,000 --> 01:26:01,679
Speaker 4: after they had closed the airways of Puerto Rico.

1971
01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:04,640
Speaker 2: They had closed for twenty four hours, you know, because.

1972
01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 4: Of everything that happened, and so I was like, well,

1973
01:26:08,439 --> 01:26:10,240
Speaker 4: the perfect person to have on to kind of talk

1974
01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:10,800
Speaker 4: about this.

1975
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 2: And so we talked about it a little bit.

1976
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 4: Uh, one of the guests we had talked about her

1977
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:18,360
Speaker 4: cheese May was actually like her piece. She was like,

1978
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 4: I'm not in the cheese May, and that's actually my

1979
01:26:20,280 --> 01:26:22,960
Speaker 4: cheese May, which was like a really interesting take. And

1980
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:26,320
Speaker 4: then we on one of the episodes talked about Romeo

1981
01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:28,840
Speaker 4: Santos on that New York Times podcast. And I won't

1982
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:30,599
Speaker 4: get into it here because I get into it plenty

1983
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:33,680
Speaker 4: over there. But yeah, so it can be as like

1984
01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:39,439
Speaker 4: serious as Venezuela or as silly as like you're protecting

1985
01:26:39,479 --> 01:26:40,680
Speaker 4: your peace and you're like, I'm not going to be

1986
01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:42,639
Speaker 4: in the mix because at the end of the day, Puerto.

1987
01:26:42,479 --> 01:26:45,839
Speaker 2: Rican sis student and size bed, So you gotta be careful.

1988
01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:50,639
Speaker 3: There's enough drama twin. That's how that's Yeah, I love it.

1989
01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:53,360
Speaker 4: No, It's like I started, like when I found out

1990
01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:56,599
Speaker 4: that expression, I started asking everybody I saw that week

1991
01:26:56,680 --> 01:26:57,639
Speaker 4: and they're like, oh yeah.

1992
01:26:57,479 --> 01:26:59,439
Speaker 2: And You're like, so, who have you And they're like,

1993
01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:00,559
Speaker 2: there really is workout.

1994
01:27:01,080 --> 01:27:04,240
Speaker 1: So this is awesome.

1995
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:08,120
Speaker 4: I mean, it's so validating to like hear that from

1996
01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:12,719
Speaker 4: you guys, kings of podcasting, and also to be here,

1997
01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 4: to be given this seat to talk to you guys,

1998
01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:18,280
Speaker 4: is like, I couldn't be more grateful, honestly, like a

1999
01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:20,960
Speaker 4: big brainedd it was like, I can only do this

2000
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:23,280
Speaker 4: when I feel as the perfectionists I am.

2001
01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:25,639
Speaker 2: I was like, I must wait till the perfect time

2002
01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:26,920
Speaker 2: to release this podcast.

2003
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:28,599
Speaker 4: And I do feel like now more than ever, even

2004
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:31,479
Speaker 4: though this podcast has been in my mind for four years,

2005
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:34,720
Speaker 4: Bad Bunny really did like put Puerto Rico on the

2006
01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 4: map in this way that kind of gave a lot

2007
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:40,160
Speaker 4: of opportunity to the people I'm interviewing to be the

2008
01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:41,800
Speaker 4: platforms they are because like a lot of the people

2009
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:44,840
Speaker 4: I'm interviewing have been doing this work, and because of that, Bunny,

2010
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:48,160
Speaker 4: they now have a new platform to like high tail

2011
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 4: their work to the world. And I'm so excited to

2012
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:53,240
Speaker 4: be a part of that movement, to be a part

2013
01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:56,200
Speaker 4: of those conversations and Esubefishally, I'm like just really grateful

2014
01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:58,400
Speaker 4: to be making you know, a lot of new friends

2015
01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:01,439
Speaker 4: and like meeting port Rican's They're making me feel at home.

2016
01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:04,280
Speaker 4: They're making me feel like I have this extended family

2017
01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:06,880
Speaker 4: because I didn't grow up with a huge extended family.

2018
01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:09,639
Speaker 4: We're pretty removed from my extended family. So it's been

2019
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:13,040
Speaker 4: like really beautiful to build this like new kind of family.

2020
01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:17,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is beautiful. Congrats on like doing this thing.

2021
01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:20,120
Speaker 1: And it's also like you're going to enjoy every second

2022
01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:22,599
Speaker 1: of it because it is your interest, it's your culture.

2023
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:24,799
Speaker 1: It's like it's it's just perfect.

2024
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:26,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm very excited. I'm very excited for you guys.

2025
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:32,439
Speaker 4: A listen right there, baby, but you can watch the

2026
01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:34,000
Speaker 4: trailer and listen to it out now.

2027
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:37,479
Speaker 1: Listen to you. You're already doing this well, you.

2028
01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:39,920
Speaker 4: Know, it's funny. It was like it's almost like I've

2029
01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:42,880
Speaker 4: been behind the scenes for years. You guy as my

2030
01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:46,080
Speaker 4: partner who produced helped produce the episodes we did in

2031
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:50,520
Speaker 4: Puerto Rico because we couldn't book a studio space because everyone.

2032
01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:50,799
Speaker 2: Was on vacation.

2033
01:28:50,920 --> 01:28:54,320
Speaker 4: Because if you know anything about Puerto Rican Christmas is

2034
01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:55,760
Speaker 4: the longest Christmas of any coming.

2035
01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:57,360
Speaker 2: It's like a month long.

2036
01:28:57,720 --> 01:29:00,160
Speaker 4: And I did not take that into account when I

2037
01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:03,080
Speaker 4: went to Puerto Rico, uh to try to capture some

2038
01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:06,240
Speaker 4: content because I had never visited Porto Rico during the winter,

2039
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:08,920
Speaker 4: and I was like, no, everyone's truly like check the

2040
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:11,840
Speaker 4: fuck out. They are like not doing anything. So my

2041
01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:14,799
Speaker 4: gracious partner, who is a video editor and producer by trade,

2042
01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:17,800
Speaker 4: set up our whole setup in like two different airbnbs

2043
01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:21,599
Speaker 4: for us to record these episodes and make them happen.

2044
01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:22,200
Speaker 3: Uh.

2045
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:24,360
Speaker 4: They're not going to be fully on YouTube, but they

2046
01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:26,960
Speaker 4: are going to be clips and all that stuff. But

2047
01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:29,880
Speaker 4: that first episode was so nervous. Y'all like a lot

2048
01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 4: of editing in that first episode because I was like.

2049
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:34,719
Speaker 3: But we all do it, we all edit all.

2050
01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:37,400
Speaker 2: We gotta edit. But I feel much better now now

2051
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:37,800
Speaker 2: I'm here.

2052
01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:44,479
Speaker 3: Now you're here, the hearts over you you start, but

2053
01:29:44,479 --> 01:29:45,000
Speaker 3: I'll still.

2054
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:46,960
Speaker 1: Be your listening and She'll still be here.

2055
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:49,479
Speaker 2: I will still be producer. Becka of loschesays, I'm not

2056
01:29:49,560 --> 01:29:50,080
Speaker 2: letting that go.

2057
01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:59,479
Speaker 1: No. One of the things characteristic of Law School Teresa's

2058
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:02,360
Speaker 1: episode is, of course, I don't think so honey, So

2059
01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:03,720
Speaker 1: this will be your first I don't think so much.

2060
01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:05,040
Speaker 2: I don't think so honey.

2061
01:30:05,120 --> 01:30:07,519
Speaker 1: So let's just like if you forgot for some reason,

2062
01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:11,479
Speaker 1: will m It's a sixty second segment in which I

2063
01:30:11,479 --> 01:30:13,519
Speaker 1: don't think so honey gets said, and it gets meant

2064
01:30:14,240 --> 01:30:18,880
Speaker 1: about something in culture and I got something because you know,

2065
01:30:19,479 --> 01:30:20,439
Speaker 1: we got to get into it.

2066
01:30:20,439 --> 01:30:22,320
Speaker 3: We got to get into it. This is Matt Rodgers.

2067
01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:23,400
Speaker 3: I don't think so many time starts.

2068
01:30:23,479 --> 01:30:24,559
Speaker 2: Now, I don't think so honey.

2069
01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:27,120
Speaker 1: That the tallest and fastest roller coaster in the world

2070
01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:31,640
Speaker 1: is at six Flags Kadilla City in Saudi Arabia. So

2071
01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:35,639
Speaker 1: I'm not going there to going there to go do that,

2072
01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:38,679
Speaker 1: and that's a shame because I am interested in it.

2073
01:30:38,680 --> 01:30:41,280
Speaker 1: It is over, it is over six hundred feet, toll

2074
01:30:41,439 --> 01:30:43,840
Speaker 1: is one hundred and fifty five miles per hour. The

2075
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:46,920
Speaker 1: layout of the roller coaster actually goes into the natural

2076
01:30:46,960 --> 01:30:50,720
Speaker 1: cliffs in the region. You have to go online and

2077
01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:53,479
Speaker 1: just low key incognito moti if you really don't want

2078
01:30:53,479 --> 01:30:56,720
Speaker 1: to thirty seconds, but just take the POV of it

2079
01:30:56,800 --> 01:30:59,559
Speaker 1: and watch people doing it. It's fucking insane and it's

2080
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:03,080
Speaker 1: just Soudi Arabia. So I'm not one of those people

2081
01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:05,559
Speaker 1: that's going to be like, shoulder shrug, let's go. I

2082
01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:09,880
Speaker 1: ain't going, but I will say it looks like quite

2083
01:31:09,880 --> 01:31:12,479
Speaker 1: the ride, and I don't think they're are going to

2084
01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:15,160
Speaker 1: be able to one up it because I don't think

2085
01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:18,920
Speaker 1: it is. It is a bespoke coaster built into the landscape,

2086
01:31:19,400 --> 01:31:23,599
Speaker 1: So I guess you know, if it's if that's for you,

2087
01:31:24,479 --> 01:31:26,960
Speaker 1: go off, it's not for me. I'm watching from home

2088
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:30,000
Speaker 1: and I'm disappointed about it because I would like to

2089
01:31:30,360 --> 01:31:33,679
Speaker 1: rocket ship off, blast off, warped tour.

2090
01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:36,320
Speaker 3: Into a cliff that's one minute. Have you seen that.

2091
01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:39,080
Speaker 2: I've seen it one again. Book a world record.

2092
01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:41,719
Speaker 1: It doesn't it's not even a it's it's clear away.

2093
01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:44,240
Speaker 3: Far away. It looks crazy.

2094
01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:47,240
Speaker 2: I have to look this up now. It's completely absord

2095
01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:48,760
Speaker 2: go that far.

2096
01:31:48,920 --> 01:31:51,280
Speaker 3: Of course, this is my thing with coasters, though, it's

2097
01:31:51,320 --> 01:31:55,080
Speaker 3: like we're plateauing. Once you hit a certain threshold of

2098
01:31:55,160 --> 01:31:59,680
Speaker 3: like speed, heights, drops, whatever, it's like it's basically the

2099
01:31:59,680 --> 01:32:02,840
Speaker 3: same velo the coasters. You So then what happens is

2100
01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:05,720
Speaker 3: what you need to do is you need like your

2101
01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:08,839
Speaker 3: bespoke elements in order to make these things extra special.

2102
01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:11,920
Speaker 3: In this case, it is a bespoke element in the

2103
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:17,000
Speaker 3: landscape in Saudi Arabia, So we can't be going there. Yeah, yeah,

2104
01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:19,960
Speaker 3: but I would say, like, I don't know, I guess

2105
01:32:19,960 --> 01:32:22,240
Speaker 3: I look to like the Alps.

2106
01:32:21,880 --> 01:32:31,120
Speaker 1: Now they is just a it is a faint whisper.

2107
01:32:31,280 --> 01:32:34,920
Speaker 3: Still still never understand fear of horror movies, love of

2108
01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:35,759
Speaker 3: roller coasters.

2109
01:32:37,640 --> 01:32:40,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. Like I I think sometimes it's just

2110
01:32:40,479 --> 01:32:42,960
Speaker 1: the idea that I'd be trapped in a room watching

2111
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:44,120
Speaker 1: something so I can't move.

2112
01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:46,519
Speaker 3: What about the idea that you were on a speeding

2113
01:32:46,640 --> 01:32:50,280
Speaker 3: vehicle that people sometimes die on?

2114
01:32:50,439 --> 01:32:54,519
Speaker 1: But I think I think it's scarier would be being

2115
01:32:54,560 --> 01:32:57,720
Speaker 1: in that country. I'm not talking about that.

2116
01:32:58,000 --> 01:33:01,880
Speaker 3: I'm talking about just people are afraid of roller coasters,

2117
01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:03,400
Speaker 3: understanding because something is happening to them.

2118
01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:06,360
Speaker 1: I can I say something. We're more likely to die

2119
01:33:06,560 --> 01:33:10,120
Speaker 1: right here right now than on a roller coaster from anything.

2120
01:33:10,520 --> 01:33:13,080
Speaker 1: Because I a roller coaster. I am protected on a

2121
01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:16,160
Speaker 1: roller coaster I am. It has actually been battle tested.

2122
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:18,880
Speaker 1: These things are like they you know that for an

2123
01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:20,960
Speaker 1: order for a roller coaster to run, it has to

2124
01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:25,720
Speaker 1: do something like a thousand continuous hours without incident. And

2125
01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:28,000
Speaker 1: so it's like how they say, like when you're on

2126
01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:29,880
Speaker 1: a plane, you're actually safer than you are in a

2127
01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:33,240
Speaker 1: car because this is something that has been proven tested

2128
01:33:33,320 --> 01:33:37,200
Speaker 1: as over to be safe. Otherwise it would it would

2129
01:33:37,200 --> 01:33:39,880
Speaker 1: be crazy to let it or put it into action.

2130
01:33:40,360 --> 01:33:45,240
Speaker 1: So you are safer on the velocy coaster then you

2131
01:33:45,280 --> 01:33:46,200
Speaker 1: are walking the streets.

2132
01:33:46,439 --> 01:33:49,360
Speaker 2: Is that no regulations? Because I feel like growing up

2133
01:33:50,240 --> 01:33:51,200
Speaker 2: being in.

2134
01:33:51,320 --> 01:33:54,519
Speaker 4: Aster World and water World, sure they were definitely not

2135
01:33:54,720 --> 01:33:55,760
Speaker 4: safe at all.

2136
01:33:55,840 --> 01:33:59,120
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, I think that what was it welcome

2137
01:33:59,200 --> 01:34:03,320
Speaker 1: to was there's there was a there was a There

2138
01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:05,680
Speaker 1: was an HBO Max documentary a couple of years ago

2139
01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:08,720
Speaker 1: about a particular water park which was like known for.

2140
01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:12,479
Speaker 4: Like yes, I know what you're talking about. I don't

2141
01:34:12,479 --> 01:34:15,519
Speaker 4: remember where it is, but yeah park a park, Action park,

2142
01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:15,960
Speaker 4: thank you.

2143
01:34:16,360 --> 01:34:19,280
Speaker 1: So basically it's action park and it's it's kind of

2144
01:34:19,280 --> 01:34:22,519
Speaker 1: an interesting documentary because it's just like bodily injury was

2145
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:24,439
Speaker 1: almost a surety.

2146
01:34:24,560 --> 01:34:26,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a day to day Yeah, but that's.

2147
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:28,920
Speaker 1: Not how it is at these at these big ones.

2148
01:34:29,160 --> 01:34:32,760
Speaker 3: I bring this up to sort of synthesize all of

2149
01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:36,280
Speaker 3: this and say, I don't know if people who've died

2150
01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:38,800
Speaker 3: from watching a horror movie, and I think you're safe

2151
01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:40,240
Speaker 3: for watching a horror movie than.

2152
01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:47,120
Speaker 1: For sure. So is so important because you got me there.

2153
01:34:47,360 --> 01:34:49,799
Speaker 1: But I will say I do feel like I'm gonna

2154
01:34:49,840 --> 01:34:54,120
Speaker 1: die more when I'm watching Welcome to Derry.

2155
01:34:54,400 --> 01:34:55,320
Speaker 2: Okay, I watch.

2156
01:34:57,040 --> 01:35:00,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, so all my friends decided to watch to put

2157
01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:02,479
Speaker 1: on it Welcome to Darry the other day and I

2158
01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:04,800
Speaker 1: was like, okay, well you want to do this more

2159
01:35:04,840 --> 01:35:07,120
Speaker 1: than hang out with me though, because I am leaving,

2160
01:35:07,160 --> 01:35:10,360
Speaker 1: and they were like okay, see yeah, all right fair.

2161
01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:12,360
Speaker 1: It was Stephen, Dave, and Jared and I was just like,

2162
01:35:12,479 --> 01:35:14,639
Speaker 1: you guys really pick the show over me. They were like, yeah,

2163
01:35:14,680 --> 01:35:16,680
Speaker 1: we want to watch it. I was like, okay, I

2164
01:35:16,680 --> 01:35:19,160
Speaker 1: guess I'm abnormal here because I will have a heart

2165
01:35:19,160 --> 01:35:22,160
Speaker 1: attack watching this. I will see myself out. And I

2166
01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:24,400
Speaker 1: think I went home and watched like I don't know

2167
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:27,320
Speaker 1: could maybe I tried to watch Beverly Hills this season

2168
01:35:27,360 --> 01:35:30,599
Speaker 1: and was like, this is boring. It's rough, every every

2169
01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:34,000
Speaker 1: every opportunity, like this is an invitation to enjoy the

2170
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:36,720
Speaker 1: genre weapons. Doing well at a ward Weapons is really

2171
01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:39,080
Speaker 1: Great is an invitation to enjoy the genre. Well, I

2172
01:35:39,160 --> 01:35:42,360
Speaker 1: told you I did watch it by force because the

2173
01:35:42,400 --> 01:35:44,479
Speaker 1: person in front of me on the plane was watching.

2174
01:35:44,520 --> 01:35:49,639
Speaker 3: You didn't watch it. You didn't you didn't hear the sounds, see,

2175
01:35:49,720 --> 01:35:50,160
Speaker 3: and that.

2176
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:52,800
Speaker 1: Makes me feel like the sounds are like it sounds

2177
01:35:52,840 --> 01:35:53,759
Speaker 1: the soundtrack was released.

2178
01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:57,880
Speaker 3: There's just one moment where the soundtrack is one moment

2179
01:35:57,880 --> 01:36:01,439
Speaker 3: where the sounds are terrible. That the facetab yeah yeah, yeah,

2180
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Speaker 3: I'm not even the face stabbing, not not even with

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01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:06,320
Speaker 3: my Tomasa I see, I know, or something else.

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01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:07,800
Speaker 1: It's just like I just can't.

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01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:09,280
Speaker 2: I mean, Terry so haunts me.

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01:36:09,840 --> 01:36:11,960
Speaker 1: Little diva head, come off, Little diva head, come off.

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01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:13,760
Speaker 3: Fucking love that movie.

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01:36:14,240 --> 01:36:16,639
Speaker 1: You actually can get your little divahead. Come off. Merch

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01:36:16,760 --> 01:36:23,760
Speaker 1: on the store. It is an evergreen item until yeah, right,

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01:36:23,880 --> 01:36:28,120
Speaker 1: which at this point, why not come are you ready?

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01:36:28,280 --> 01:36:30,040
Speaker 3: I'm ready? And this is gonna This is gonna upset

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01:36:30,080 --> 01:36:33,519
Speaker 3: people in this room. People in this room, this is

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01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:40,200
Speaker 3: bowen or they'll feel validated. Oh god, yeah, this is

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01:36:40,200 --> 01:36:42,160
Speaker 3: bowing youangs. I don't think so honey his time. Sorry,

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01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:45,080
Speaker 3: now I don't think so honey, toxins. How can you

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01:36:45,160 --> 01:36:50,240
Speaker 3: be so cute and so damn loud, so damn loud

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01:36:50,240 --> 01:36:54,519
Speaker 3: at the same time. It's such a fucking raw deal,

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01:36:54,640 --> 01:36:56,760
Speaker 3: isn't it that the cutest dog breed there is, in

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01:36:56,800 --> 01:37:04,519
Speaker 3: my opinion, is also so easily angered, so damn cute,

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01:37:05,479 --> 01:37:09,679
Speaker 3: and yet so fucking loud that I would go crazy

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Speaker 3: and go into psychosis. Thirty seconds there was a beautiful

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01:37:13,760 --> 01:37:16,680
Speaker 3: docs and named Nut that I knew in college. G

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01:37:16,920 --> 01:37:20,840
Speaker 3: n Ut Nut, so cute, and then I realized, oh

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01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:25,360
Speaker 3: he's crazy. Shea she's the most beautiful dog I've ever met,

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01:37:25,479 --> 01:37:28,519
Speaker 3: just a legend, and she actually I don't find that

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01:37:28,760 --> 01:37:31,640
Speaker 3: she just very well behaved. And yeah, you guys, as

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01:37:31,720 --> 01:37:35,120
Speaker 3: the owner know it's you know something besides me, everyone

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01:37:35,200 --> 01:37:37,400
Speaker 3: in the room, this is this is this.

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01:37:37,840 --> 01:37:38,559
Speaker 1: She's a bad legend.

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01:37:38,680 --> 01:37:41,680
Speaker 3: Tortuous tension of doctions is that they're so adorable, but

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01:37:41,960 --> 01:37:45,439
Speaker 3: fuck are they allowed? And so so so tough? Is

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01:37:45,479 --> 01:37:48,000
Speaker 3: the scream just really hits you Primarily you're like, that

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01:37:48,080 --> 01:37:48,559
Speaker 3: needs to stop.

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01:37:48,680 --> 01:37:50,800
Speaker 2: No, okay, I'm not upset with you, because you're not wrong.

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01:37:51,640 --> 01:37:54,240
Speaker 4: I made the mistake of getting a dogs in and

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01:37:54,280 --> 01:37:58,439
Speaker 4: now it's become my personality. But if you ask my partner,

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01:37:58,840 --> 01:38:00,720
Speaker 4: he doesn't forget her. I mean every day that we

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01:38:00,760 --> 01:38:05,720
Speaker 4: made a bad choice, would love we We love Chicha.

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01:38:05,880 --> 01:38:09,880
Speaker 4: She is our tyrant, she is our overlord. Yeah, she

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01:38:10,240 --> 01:38:13,080
Speaker 4: runs the house and she has a lot of rules.

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Speaker 3: What you do today? What are the rules? Uh?

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01:38:15,160 --> 01:38:16,960
Speaker 4: She doesn't like it when one of us is traveling,

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01:38:17,200 --> 01:38:19,160
Speaker 4: or if we travel at all and we drop her

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01:38:19,160 --> 01:38:22,880
Speaker 4: off at daycare. She hates staycare and she makes everyone

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01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:26,280
Speaker 4: at daycare hold her the entire time because she doesn't

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01:38:26,320 --> 01:38:28,880
Speaker 4: like to play with the other dogs because they're beneath her.

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01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:30,759
Speaker 3: And oh god.

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01:38:30,960 --> 01:38:33,040
Speaker 4: She also just like I think, is sad and she's like,

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01:38:33,400 --> 01:38:34,439
Speaker 4: I need someone to cut up with me.

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01:38:34,439 --> 01:38:35,080
Speaker 2: Twenty four seven.

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01:38:35,400 --> 01:38:37,200
Speaker 4: If I'm doing my makeup for too long, like today,

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01:38:37,560 --> 01:38:39,680
Speaker 4: she will start circling me and then barking at me

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01:38:39,720 --> 01:38:41,040
Speaker 4: because I'm not sitting.

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01:38:41,120 --> 01:38:43,240
Speaker 2: She can't sit in my lap. She's like, you're already beautiful.

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01:38:43,479 --> 01:38:45,800
Speaker 4: She's like, you're already beautiful, and you're taking up my time,

2234
01:38:45,880 --> 01:38:49,120
Speaker 4: which is for my lap. So she she doesn't like

2235
01:38:49,160 --> 01:38:51,799
Speaker 4: it when I'm spending too much time doing getting ready.

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01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:54,400
Speaker 2: She doesn't like it when it's too loud.

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01:38:54,640 --> 01:38:56,760
Speaker 4: So like at daycare, they send me a video of

2238
01:38:56,760 --> 01:38:58,719
Speaker 4: her barking at all the other dogs were playing too loud,

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01:38:58,840 --> 01:39:03,960
Speaker 4: like they're doing too much. She doesn't like it when

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Speaker 4: either of us travels. She'll be like a real like

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01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:09,680
Speaker 4: bad dog. When we're one of us is gone, like

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01:39:09,720 --> 01:39:12,320
Speaker 4: she'll just start acting out, like barking like crazy, being

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01:39:12,400 --> 01:39:17,000
Speaker 4: very reaction bad and then famously lately the crazy thing.

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01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:19,640
Speaker 4: Because now I have two dogsins one of them is

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01:39:19,680 --> 01:39:23,520
Speaker 4: good for the most part. He's a full size standard

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01:39:23,600 --> 01:39:26,160
Speaker 4: wire hair. His name is Jack, and we adopted him.

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01:39:27,720 --> 01:39:28,080
Speaker 3: I know.

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01:39:28,720 --> 01:39:31,200
Speaker 4: We only kept his name because it seemed like he

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01:39:31,280 --> 01:39:34,680
Speaker 4: really like responded to his name because we got him

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Speaker 4: as a puppy, like he was like eight months when

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01:39:36,240 --> 01:39:38,920
Speaker 4: we found it. Yeah, I was like, it seems like

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01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:40,559
Speaker 4: he really learned Jack. So I was like, Okay, we

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01:39:40,600 --> 01:39:43,160
Speaker 4: have Jack and we have Chicha. But I will say behaviorally,

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01:39:43,200 --> 01:39:46,519
Speaker 4: those the full size are much better than the minis.

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Speaker 2: The minis are the bad.

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01:39:48,080 --> 01:39:50,599
Speaker 3: Man, but they're so cute.

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01:39:50,960 --> 01:39:55,200
Speaker 2: But Jack is a little bit more dense than Chicha.

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01:39:55,280 --> 01:39:57,960
Speaker 3: She just so smart. I don't smart.

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01:39:58,120 --> 01:39:59,880
Speaker 4: Well, I was gonna say they fight over this on

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01:40:00,280 --> 01:40:03,920
Speaker 4: Bone often, and she has now gotten so smart will

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01:40:03,960 --> 01:40:06,519
Speaker 4: she'll like rile Jack up and act like someone's at

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01:40:06,520 --> 01:40:08,880
Speaker 4: the door and start like barking, like, oh.

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01:40:08,720 --> 01:40:09,679
Speaker 2: My god, someone's at the door.

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01:40:09,960 --> 01:40:12,000
Speaker 4: And so then Jack will be like, oh my god,

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01:40:12,040 --> 01:40:14,040
Speaker 4: someone's at the door, and he'll start running to the door,

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01:40:14,400 --> 01:40:16,920
Speaker 4: and then Chicha will turn around like she'll like run

2267
01:40:16,960 --> 01:40:19,439
Speaker 4: with him to act like oh yeah, we're we're chasing

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01:40:19,479 --> 01:40:24,040
Speaker 4: the door, and then she'll turn around and swoop the bone.

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01:40:23,200 --> 01:40:25,759
Speaker 3: For Traders season five, No, she would be a perfect

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01:40:26,080 --> 01:40:28,519
Speaker 3: addition to Traders because she she would.

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01:40:28,360 --> 01:40:31,200
Speaker 1: Be jamming out with Lisa on Canvas right now. She

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01:40:31,240 --> 01:40:32,080
Speaker 1: would have big plans.

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01:40:32,200 --> 01:40:35,599
Speaker 4: She's so manipulative because Jack, he just wants to do good.

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01:40:35,600 --> 01:40:37,479
Speaker 4: He just wants to be loved, He wants to be

2275
01:40:37,600 --> 01:40:40,000
Speaker 4: pet and he's a little demanding for sure.

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01:40:40,280 --> 01:40:43,519
Speaker 3: Doesn't seem like a German dog, right, it's just so

2277
01:40:43,840 --> 01:40:44,360
Speaker 3: like and.

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01:40:44,280 --> 01:40:47,160
Speaker 4: She just particularly loud. You're not wrong, Like specifically, I've

2279
01:40:47,200 --> 01:40:50,040
Speaker 4: been told by many people like four docks in, Chicha

2280
01:40:50,320 --> 01:40:53,679
Speaker 4: is loud, and people think she because her bark isn't

2281
01:40:53,760 --> 01:40:56,120
Speaker 4: just loud, but she has like a big girl bark,

2282
01:40:56,240 --> 01:40:58,840
Speaker 4: like behind the door. People will and they'll be like,

2283
01:40:58,840 --> 01:41:01,680
Speaker 4: what the fuck, Like that's what was boring, Like we

2284
01:41:01,720 --> 01:41:03,800
Speaker 4: thought a big dog was there, and it's just like

2285
01:41:04,280 --> 01:41:08,880
Speaker 4: a little pound three inches off the ground, big pod,

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01:41:09,280 --> 01:41:09,680
Speaker 4: little thing.

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01:41:09,840 --> 01:41:13,519
Speaker 3: Sabraina carpenter. She's a little package choice exactly.

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01:41:13,880 --> 01:41:15,920
Speaker 2: So you're not wrong, though, and I respect your choice.

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01:41:16,040 --> 01:41:18,800
Speaker 1: Well, we know that Chicha is. I don't think so

2290
01:41:18,840 --> 01:41:19,719
Speaker 1: honeying all the time.

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01:41:19,800 --> 01:41:22,559
Speaker 4: She absolutely She's never letting me not know what's going on.

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01:41:22,680 --> 01:41:24,880
Speaker 1: It's time for you. I don't think so, honey. This

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01:41:24,960 --> 01:41:26,240
Speaker 1: is a moment in time. Are you ready.

2294
01:41:26,320 --> 01:41:28,639
Speaker 2: I'm ready. I'm nervous. I don't know why, but I'm ready.

2295
01:41:28,680 --> 01:41:30,639
Speaker 1: Okay, this is Becca Ramos's I don't think so, honey.

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01:41:30,640 --> 01:41:31,439
Speaker 1: Your time starts now.

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01:41:31,640 --> 01:41:34,400
Speaker 4: I don't think so. New York City apartment hunting, Okay.

2298
01:41:34,680 --> 01:41:37,040
Speaker 4: I have lived in this city for six years, and

2299
01:41:37,120 --> 01:41:39,200
Speaker 4: I don't know if the landlords are scared of them

2300
01:41:39,200 --> 01:41:41,040
Speaker 4: on Damie and they're making it harder.

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01:41:40,880 --> 01:41:42,000
Speaker 2: For you to get an apartment.

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01:41:42,280 --> 01:41:44,000
Speaker 4: But I have never in my life had such a

2303
01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:46,400
Speaker 4: hard time finding an apartment than I am this year,

2304
01:41:46,439 --> 01:41:49,520
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty six, I've already applied for two apartments

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01:41:49,600 --> 01:41:52,439
Speaker 4: and been declined. One of them said, my guarantor didn't

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01:41:52,479 --> 01:41:55,840
Speaker 4: make a hundred times the rent.

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01:41:56,240 --> 01:41:58,160
Speaker 2: And then the second one they were like, you have

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01:41:58,160 --> 01:41:58,679
Speaker 2: two dogs.

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01:41:58,720 --> 01:42:01,120
Speaker 4: Absolutely not after I have a deposit down, which meant

2310
01:42:01,160 --> 01:42:03,840
Speaker 4: they should not have shown that apartment to anybody else.

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01:42:04,040 --> 01:42:06,439
Speaker 4: They considered other people and let it go, and they

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01:42:06,439 --> 01:42:09,080
Speaker 4: told me I was a perfect candidate. One apartment told

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01:42:09,120 --> 01:42:13,000
Speaker 4: me that I was approved and then declined, like it

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01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:16,559
Speaker 4: is insanem here. It's also crazy that like it's expected

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01:42:16,600 --> 01:42:20,360
Speaker 4: that in one month you're supposed to find an apartment, move,

2316
01:42:20,479 --> 01:42:23,840
Speaker 4: pack your shit and like whatever. It's it's crazy because

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01:42:23,880 --> 01:42:26,519
Speaker 4: other places they know, the landlords know three months in

2318
01:42:26,560 --> 01:42:29,000
Speaker 4: advance that you are leaving that place, so they should

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01:42:29,000 --> 01:42:30,240
Speaker 4: put the market three months in advance.

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01:42:30,880 --> 01:42:33,520
Speaker 3: That's what you're overqualified.

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01:42:33,880 --> 01:42:37,120
Speaker 2: I overqualified and their mom, I took a deposit and

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01:42:37,160 --> 01:42:37,920
Speaker 2: then took the.

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01:42:37,880 --> 01:42:40,640
Speaker 4: Places have taken a deposit and decline the apartment they

2324
01:42:40,640 --> 01:42:43,400
Speaker 4: did to get a back. The second one, they're being

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01:42:43,439 --> 01:42:44,840
Speaker 4: a little shady about it, but luckily I put on

2326
01:42:44,880 --> 01:42:47,040
Speaker 4: my credit cards, like cancel the payment.

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01:42:47,280 --> 01:42:48,000
Speaker 2: That's all real.

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01:42:48,240 --> 01:42:50,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like and they all these landlords are trying

2329
01:42:50,600 --> 01:42:52,479
Speaker 4: to be or maybe not landlords but the realtors are

2330
01:42:52,479 --> 01:42:54,679
Speaker 4: trying to be like, yeah, this is no fees, isn't

2331
01:42:54,680 --> 01:42:54,920
Speaker 4: that great?

2332
01:42:54,920 --> 01:42:56,000
Speaker 2: And I'm like, no, that's the law now.

2333
01:42:56,040 --> 01:42:59,160
Speaker 4: That don't make me feel like you're doing a favor

2334
01:42:59,200 --> 01:43:02,480
Speaker 4: that it's no Like it was insane. It was inhumane

2335
01:43:02,520 --> 01:43:05,120
Speaker 4: beforehand that I had to have three times a rent

2336
01:43:05,280 --> 01:43:08,920
Speaker 4: just to put down on this apartment. Don't actly you're

2337
01:43:08,920 --> 01:43:10,080
Speaker 4: doing me a favor now that I don't have to

2338
01:43:10,120 --> 01:43:12,480
Speaker 4: do that, But then you're also not giving me apartments

2339
01:43:12,840 --> 01:43:15,080
Speaker 4: like it's crazy.

2340
01:43:14,720 --> 01:43:16,840
Speaker 3: Absolute fucking hell. Yeah, I'm so sorry that.

2341
01:43:18,000 --> 01:43:20,400
Speaker 2: I will find a place, but yes, you will.

2342
01:43:20,479 --> 01:43:23,720
Speaker 4: It's insane because I have lived in Texas in an

2343
01:43:23,760 --> 01:43:26,240
Speaker 4: apartment and I've lived in Portland, Ore in an apartment.

2344
01:43:26,280 --> 01:43:28,719
Speaker 4: And obviously I'm not even talking about the price point.

2345
01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:30,960
Speaker 4: Those are different cities. We live in New York. We

2346
01:43:31,000 --> 01:43:32,599
Speaker 4: live in a New York price point. I don't even

2347
01:43:32,600 --> 01:43:35,479
Speaker 4: care about that. Yeah, it's like I could find an apartment,

2348
01:43:36,320 --> 01:43:38,679
Speaker 4: like sign a lease three months before my lease was over,

2349
01:43:38,800 --> 01:43:41,519
Speaker 4: you know, because it's like you have to tell the landlord, hey,

2350
01:43:41,640 --> 01:43:44,320
Speaker 4: I'm moving ninety day in advance, and they're like okay, cool,

2351
01:43:44,880 --> 01:43:47,080
Speaker 4: assuming that they would they do with that information is

2352
01:43:47,080 --> 01:43:49,960
Speaker 4: put on the market. No, they won't put They know

2353
01:43:50,000 --> 01:43:51,720
Speaker 4: which apartments are going to be available in three months,

2354
01:43:51,760 --> 01:43:54,280
Speaker 4: and yet they will not release them until the month before.

2355
01:43:54,760 --> 01:43:58,400
Speaker 4: And it's crazy because it's like, how is it expected

2356
01:43:58,400 --> 01:44:00,639
Speaker 4: that I'm supposed to hopefully find an apartment by January

2357
01:44:00,680 --> 01:44:03,479
Speaker 4: first to move in on February first, Like in that

2358
01:44:03,600 --> 01:44:06,000
Speaker 4: month you have to then pack your stuff, get rid

2359
01:44:06,080 --> 01:44:06,960
Speaker 4: of stuff, move.

2360
01:44:07,760 --> 01:44:10,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's insane, but you know what, as a result

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01:44:10,479 --> 01:44:12,760
Speaker 1: of this, I don't think so, honey, you're getting a

2362
01:44:12,880 --> 01:44:14,320
Speaker 1: You're getting you're getting a mansion.

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01:44:14,479 --> 01:44:16,919
Speaker 2: Someone give me an apartment please in Brooklyn.

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01:44:16,960 --> 01:44:20,519
Speaker 1: We're moving you in on We're moving you into Gracie mansions.

2365
01:44:20,520 --> 01:44:22,479
Speaker 2: That'd be gorge I'm like, I just need someone to

2366
01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:24,120
Speaker 2: let my two docsins in. Please.

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01:44:26,360 --> 01:44:29,080
Speaker 4: They know they're loud, but they're cute and they are

2368
01:44:29,280 --> 01:44:31,760
Speaker 4: good and they will love you fiercely.

2369
01:44:32,280 --> 01:44:34,000
Speaker 2: Just let me let them in as.

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01:44:33,840 --> 01:44:38,000
Speaker 1: We love you fiercely. And we've so loved this episode.

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01:44:38,120 --> 01:44:39,840
Speaker 1: I mean, just like, I know that this is going

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01:44:39,880 --> 01:44:44,639
Speaker 1: to make the reader's tickled pink and February third.

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01:44:44,479 --> 01:44:48,439
Speaker 4: February third, Welcome to a Barrio stream on all platforms,

2374
01:44:48,800 --> 01:44:52,439
Speaker 4: and right now you can tune in on ig you

2375
01:44:52,439 --> 01:44:54,839
Speaker 4: can find us out Welcome to a Barrio on TikTok,

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01:44:55,240 --> 01:44:58,320
Speaker 4: and you can find me at bex Ramos wherever you

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01:44:58,360 --> 01:44:58,920
Speaker 4: can find.

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01:44:58,760 --> 01:45:00,799
Speaker 3: Me, and the tumblr that there somewhere.

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01:45:01,560 --> 01:45:04,519
Speaker 4: If you find it, honestly, congrats if you find it,

2380
01:45:04,560 --> 01:45:07,000
Speaker 4: you deserve to read. You deserve to read it if

2381
01:45:07,040 --> 01:45:09,639
Speaker 4: you can find it, because it's not under my name,

2382
01:45:09,760 --> 01:45:10,639
Speaker 4: so I'd be shocked.

2383
01:45:10,680 --> 01:45:12,920
Speaker 2: I have googled myself and many times hasn't come up.

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01:45:12,960 --> 01:45:16,600
Speaker 3: So okay, I keep googling yourself and stop that.

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01:45:17,120 --> 01:45:20,519
Speaker 2: Can I can? I give you a.

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01:45:19,479 --> 01:45:22,639
Speaker 4: Disaster trust because I was what featured on Daily zeit

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01:45:22,680 --> 01:45:26,880
Speaker 4: Geist years ago, like when I first joined podcasting and

2388
01:45:26,960 --> 01:45:29,880
Speaker 4: I had the audacity to look myself up on Reddit

2389
01:45:30,280 --> 01:45:35,120
Speaker 4: and I made one comment about a pop star that

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01:45:35,160 --> 01:45:36,920
Speaker 4: I'm sure everyone can assume.

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Speaker 2: And it wasn't even that bad. I apologized immediately.

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Speaker 4: It was like, don't come for me, and then it

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Speaker 4: was like she hates women, So I know better. I

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Speaker 4: will not be googling myself after this venture. Now that

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Speaker 4: I am a public personality, I will never google myself again.

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Speaker 1: Just in time, Just in time.

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Speaker 3: We end every episode with the song.

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Speaker 2: Myes a Lie like cherry By.

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Speaker 1: For more of that, listen a lot of delray. You

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Speaker 1: should have already, should have already.

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Speaker 3: We've been, We've been.

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Speaker 1: Day One's been, Day one, Torolanta, Bye.

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Speaker 3: Last Cultureracis is the production by Will Ferrell's Big Money

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Speaker 3: Players in iHeartRadio podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Created and hosted by Matt Rodgers and Bowen Yang, Executive

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Speaker 1: produced by Anna hasby A and produced by Becca Ramos,

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Speaker 1: Edited and mixed by Doug Bain and our music is

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Speaker 1: by Henry Murski