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For more information, visit wee 40 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: bul dot com. Slash disclosures. All right, Uh, we're gonna 41 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: talk championships coming to. 42 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,119 Speaker 3: Your your New York jets in a little bit. 43 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: Uh, we got a lot to get to, Plex, But 44 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: let's start here with with Pooka Nakua. 45 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 3: All right, uh uh. 46 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 1: He's been in rehab. That's saying he's entered rehab. But 47 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 1: by his by his lawyer's admission, I guess Puka has 48 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 1: already been going through rehab for some amount of time 49 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: that I haven't been able to locate or find anything 50 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: specific on the amount of time that he's been in 51 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: rehab or the amount of time he will be in rehab. 52 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 3: But what we do know is that he will finish. 53 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: In plenty of enough time to participate go figure in 54 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: all of the team off off season program. So all right, 55 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: this comes on the heels of him getting a getting. 56 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 3: Into some legal trouble. 57 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: There was a suit foul against him. There's a ledge 58 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: that he biit a young lady twice on the shoulder 59 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: and did an antisemitic slur during the course of this 60 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: New Year's Eve. We'll call Bene night and party night. Listen, 61 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: it sounds like to me, Plex, that that you can't 62 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: bury the lead here. 63 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 3: With Pooka Nakua. 64 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: We can debate what took place between him and the 65 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: young lady. We can debate if he really did that. 66 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: We can debate if he really did a or threw 67 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: out an anti Semitic slur. You know, his lawyer said 68 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: it was trivial. Puka actually asserts that he even has 69 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: video footage to prove that the young lady is not 70 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: telling the truth about how everything happened and how everything 71 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: went down. Now that's up for debate. The courts can 72 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: decide that or wherever that's going to go. But I 73 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: think the bigger conversation here, plex is that Pooka Nakua 74 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: is getting rehab, which means that there is an acknowledgement 75 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: of something that needs to be fixed. When something needs 76 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 1: to be fixed, I means something is broken. And so 77 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: I'll lob this one to you in this scenario as 78 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: a receiver and looking at pokin Nakua situation, obviously seeing 79 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: the contracts that are now being lobbed out here to 80 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: these receivers and how big they are, and him seemingly 81 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: being up next he is eligible for a new contract. 82 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: What's your take on the timing of all of all 83 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 1: of this? Is this a genuine Do you feel like 84 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: this is a genuine deal? I don't know, Pukinnakup, I 85 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: don't know. If you have any connections to him or 86 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: anything like that. I don't want to turn this into 87 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: a bashing scenario for me, and I certainly don't want 88 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: to miss label someone that I have, you know, no 89 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: connection to. But at face value, I know how I 90 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: look at this, and I know how I feel about it. 91 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 1: And looking at this story and hearing this story, what 92 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: what's your takeaway from this? How are you looking at it? 93 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, from what I understand, the Pookah has acknowledged, you know, 94 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 4: he needed to address a few things for himself mentally, 95 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 4: and uh, he voluntarily admitted himself to seeking treatment for 96 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 4: you know, some some issues that that he has been 97 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 4: dealing with. You know, we go back to the uh, 98 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 4: the touchdown anti Semitic gesture that he had after a 99 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 4: touchdown celebration and it didn't know he did it. He 100 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 4: did not know, do you that. I don't know how 101 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 4: he couldn't know. You know, you just don't, you know, 102 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 4: have a touchdown celebration and do something to the degree 103 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 4: where you don't know what you're doing, because we all 104 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 4: know that, you know, Uh, you know, I never had 105 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 4: a touchdown celebration. I just got down on one knee 106 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 4: and you know, went about my business. But like some 107 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 4: of these things choreographed, you know what I mean, you 108 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 4: have an idea of what you want to do when 109 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 4: you do reach the end zone and celebrate it. And 110 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 4: he said he had no acknowledgment that it was andy 111 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 4: Semitic gesture. But you know, you know, you got to 112 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 4: give him the benefit of the doubt. You know, he's 113 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 4: a young player. Uh he's a superstar in this league, 114 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 4: and you know, he came out and said that he 115 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 4: did not know. And now this this this ordeal pops 116 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 4: up with involving two women, and you know it's heresay 117 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 4: for the most part. But you know, I think, I 118 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 4: think the fact that he has, you know, voluntarily admitted 119 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 4: himself to seeking help. He knows that there's an issue, 120 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 4: there's a problem, and he's trying to deal with the 121 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 4: best way that he know how and that is, you know, 122 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 4: admitting himself into treatment. So from what I understand, he 123 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 4: will be available for OTAs. So you have to say, 124 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 4: it is the beginning of April, so it's probably a 125 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 4: thirty to forty five day you know treatment that he 126 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 4: will be admitting himself too, because he will be available 127 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 4: for OTAs in May and from a time and standpoint, 128 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 4: you know, Sean McVay came out and said, you know, 129 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 4: they fully support Pooker. So I don't think that's going 130 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 4: to be a full problem with him moving forward with 131 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 4: his organization. I mean, he's coming off a seventeen hundred 132 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 4: yard ten touchdown season. I believe that he's one of 133 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 4: the top five players in the NFL playing the position. 134 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 4: And me and TJ had this conversation last week. He 135 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 4: knows Pooker really well. He trains Pooker, and he's had 136 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 4: several conversations with him about, you know, really trying to 137 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 4: you know, get Pooka focused on on the right things 138 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 4: on on the football field and not you know, all 139 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 4: of these antics and everything that's going with him outside 140 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 4: of the field. So Teacher has spoken with him, he 141 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 4: knows him really well, and from what I understand, you know, 142 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 4: some of these things that are coming out, Pooka is 143 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 4: not that kind of guy. But the fact that he has, 144 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 4: you know, admitting himself in the seeking treatment he has, 145 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 4: he's taken responsibility for whatever is true, and so there 146 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 4: has to be some kind of truth behind it, because 147 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 4: you just don't admit yourself to you know, getting. 148 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 3: Help if there's nothing wrong. That's the lead stretch. 149 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: That's the lead is that you are you are admitting 150 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: that something is wrong, and if you're taking a simple, 151 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: a simple shot at it, it's that he's a different 152 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: person when he's intoxicated. Like, I think that that's the 153 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: To me, the biggest takeaway here is is that regardless 154 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: of if it comes out that he actually did what 155 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: the young lady alleges he did or if he didn't 156 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: do it, whatever was done, I think the conclusion is 157 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: the healthy conclusion is a puka, you can't be doing that, bro, 158 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: Like hey, man, like that's that's that's that's uh. You 159 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: know you you're risking it. You're you're risking it all 160 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 1: by by handling things this way. I mean we've been 161 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: around you know each other. I mean, hell, you've had 162 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: your you've had your what you've had to go through 163 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 1: and and just you know, being connected to getting out 164 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: and and listen, you've never been wanted to be out 165 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: of control. I know you super well. It's not like 166 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: you've ever had a problem. But nonetheless, sometimes things happen, 167 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: situations happen, and people can sit there and wonder why 168 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: it happened. We just got done talking about Tiger Woods 169 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 1: and in his situation, and he clearly needs help and 170 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: is stepping away from from golf to seek help. So 171 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: to me, the thing about this is, Okay, there's a 172 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: lot of money on the line because receivers are getting paid. 173 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 1: You have to make sure that that confidence in you 174 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: and being able to get and land one of those 175 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: major contracts that he is in line to get. You 176 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: have to not only prove it on the field, but 177 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: you have to prove that you can be a trustworthy 178 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: person for the long term because that's a large investment. 179 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 3: And while you may. 180 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: Be able to recoup money based upon actions. 181 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 3: That are you know, what, what is it? 182 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: What's the rule in that everybody has in their contract 183 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: conduct detrimental to you know, the team or something to 184 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: that effect. I forget the proper terminology for it, but 185 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: the conduct clause that that exists in everybody's contract, even 186 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: if that protects them from an action that Puka Nakua 187 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 1: would do. If you know you're this close to solidifying 188 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: your career, if you're that this close to solidifying your life, 189 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: let's let's let's put it. Keep it a buck. If 190 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: you can lend a life changing contract. You need to 191 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: do whatever it is you need to do to make 192 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,719 Speaker 1: sure that you're positioning yourself to be able. 193 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 3: To do just that. 194 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: Get that that life changing contract, and that seems as 195 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,839 Speaker 1: though that's what's taking place right now. I hope he 196 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: really does get the help that he needs and he 197 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: really does take this seriously, because I think we all 198 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: know plex like one, when you do things that have 199 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: a lapse of judgment, like if that's drinking too much, 200 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: which that's sounds like that's what it is. He's drinking 201 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: too much. Guy's party hard all the time. Some people 202 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: are even praised like Gronk is a hard partier, right, 203 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: People praise it like he's famous for it, Like do 204 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: a grunk party, you know what I mean, Like crush 205 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: a beer. He was drinking a beer during the flag 206 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: football game you know, the other week. 207 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 3: Some people are praised for it. 208 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 1: But also it is very calculated, I would say, right, 209 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 1: like a lot of that is a persona, it's a mystique, 210 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: something that you created. I mean, think about when we 211 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: saw Kelsey smashing beers at his brother's football game, you know, 212 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: in the suite and stuff like that, like knocking them down, 213 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: shotgunning them bad boys, right. It's not the idea of 214 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: actually knowing that a person parties and they drink and 215 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: they get it in. 216 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 3: It's the idea of if you're. 217 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: Out of control, if at the end of that evening, 218 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: the end of that that whatever, that we can that 219 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: someone has been impacted negatively by your actions directly from 220 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: you being under the influence. And I think that that's 221 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: what this is. I honestly believe plex that this is 222 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: a classic situation of dude is one of those guys 223 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: that you love them, super cool dude from all things. 224 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: Like you said, TJ knows them. 225 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 3: You know. 226 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: McVeigh is supportive of him, doesn't want to judge him 227 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: until he hears and sees more information, don't consider him 228 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: guilty until it's proven. But he most likely is a 229 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: different dude when he's intoxicated, and that dude that everybody 230 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: knows and that dude that everybody loves is a different 231 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: dude when he's under the influence. And so he's got 232 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: to get a hold of that and he's got to 233 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: be accountable for that. And I just hope that it's 234 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: not just him going and doing this because he wants 235 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: to put to bid any type of concerns about what 236 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: his conduct would be and the trust that it would 237 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: take to give him a probably a record setting contract 238 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: as a receiver. But I hope he really wants to 239 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: become better as a person and acknowledge that I do 240 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: have something that I need to address and on the 241 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: other side of what it is that I have going on, 242 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: I'm going to be a better person on the other 243 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: side of this. I just hope that's what it is. 244 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 4: Plex I believe, So, I mean, I really believe that, 245 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 4: you know, I mean, everybody knows that he's up for 246 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 4: a brand new contract with Jackson Smith and Jigba, just 247 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 4: resetting the wide receiver market and them having you know, 248 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 4: identical statistics, so we know what that entails for him 249 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 4: moving forward. He has recognized that his agent. But the 250 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 4: most important part of it is that the organization and 251 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 4: Sean McVeigh, they are in good communication with Pooka and 252 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 4: his attorney, And Sean McVeigh has came out and said 253 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 4: him and Pooker have a very close relationship, open and honest. 254 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 4: He trusted his kid's heart. He wants to put his 255 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 4: arm around him, and I think that's the most important 256 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 4: thing for him moving forward is that the organization still 257 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 4: has confidence in him. And I really believe that he's 258 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 4: taking this step to get better because I saw a 259 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 4: video where he was passed out, drunk on camera and 260 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 4: all of those kinds of things. So I really believe 261 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 4: that he is taking this situation seriously and addressing some 262 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 4: issues that he has that he knows that he has 263 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 4: to get fixed if he wants to be the best 264 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 4: Pookah that he can be. 265 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, sometimes you just be really unaware of 266 00:16:55,280 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: how bad you are in moments are you just and 267 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: you wake up or you can come back down from 268 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: wherever it is that you went to. You know, And 269 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 1: he's a good looking dude. You know, he's a good 270 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: looking dude. I'm sure people, I'm sure there's something. You know, 271 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: obviously there's a little bit more to it, right, Like 272 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 1: they was probably in his face. He ain't, no, but 273 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: he ain't an ugly dude. In fact, I've seen people 274 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 1: be up in ugly dudes's faces, you know what I mean. 275 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: Like that status of being a successful person. You're a pro, 276 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: you're in the league, you got your diamonds shining, you 277 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: know what I mean? 278 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 3: Like you got bottles popping, you know what I mean. 279 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 3: Like people love. 280 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: Having experiences, and I've seen far lesser dudes have a 281 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: great time with people, if you know what I mean, 282 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: hanging out just because they had the resources to have 283 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: that type of good time. So you can only imagine 284 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: if you getting it in and you pooking the cool 285 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: and you're in La. 286 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 3: I live here in LA. I don't go out for 287 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 3: a reason, you know. 288 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: What I mean, Like you don't Sometimes you just got 289 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: to know your limitations. Yeah, I mean the you don't 290 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: want to be a crackhead next to a crackhouse, you. 291 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 3: Know what I mean. That's just say what you want. 292 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 1: So anyway, I do hope that he pulls it together 293 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: and and you know, is able to redeem himself for himself, 294 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: you know, not for anyone else, but for himself. But 295 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 1: it'd be interesting to see how it all plays out, 296 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: because maybe there's maybe he did this to get ahead 297 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: of a legal situation, you know what I mean. Maybe 298 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: there's a little bit more to it, you know, I 299 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 1: don't know, but we will find out. I mean, all 300 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: these things do come out in the wash as it 301 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: continues on. I know the lawyer didn't like the fact 302 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 1: that it became a public deal. But I mean, what 303 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: exactly would you think would happen in this scenario. 304 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 4: Of course, in this day and age with all these 305 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 4: cameras and social media, what did you think would have happened? 306 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: Of course, it's going to become a thing. So we'll 307 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 1: see how it all plays out. Coming up next on 308 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, the New York 309 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: Jets Plexico Buris is New York Jets. They're heading to 310 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: the Promised Land. They're head to the Promised Land. And 311 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna hear it. Not my words, somebody else's words. 312 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna get that. 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Halfway out 336 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: plumber crack style. 337 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 4: You dig hey, man, It's adjustment, no doubt about it 338 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 4: is an adjustment. 339 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 3: Hey hey, people gotta be honest with you. 340 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: People think it's easy to just, you know, sir, jump 341 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: on air, do this at this hour and be consistent 342 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,719 Speaker 1: with it and give you all kinds of information and 343 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: details and all this stuff. 344 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 3: But hey, it's this. It's a grind. 345 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: Bruh. 346 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 4: You gotta do what you gotta do. Man, It's time 347 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:44,959 Speaker 4: to make a donuts. Baby. 348 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: Hey, somebody gotta make them. Hey, I'm glad you get 349 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 1: some great reps in man. Speaking of some great reps, 350 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: well one, Aaron Glenn believes that he's seen enough great 351 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: reps from Geno Smith to believe. 352 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 3: That he will lead the Jets to the Promised Land. 353 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: Not my words, Aaron Glenn's Roords coach Aaron Glenn of 354 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: the New York Jets. Here's what he had to say. 355 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 7: I just feel like like he's the guy who's going 356 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:10,239 Speaker 7: to lead us to the Promise Land. He's the guy 357 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 7: that's going to touch the ball more than anybody else on offense. 358 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 7: And listen, I know he had his struggles, and I 359 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 7: think a lot of quarterbacks, you know, they have their struggles. 360 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 7: If you look at over the last five years, the 361 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 7: guy has that's been on the most interception. 362 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 3: I mean, the top guys are up there. 363 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: Uh. I love me some, Aaron Glenn bro as a 364 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: person and as a player. I love me some Aaron Glenn. 365 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: But when you put when you put a bold claim 366 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 1: like that out there into the universe, listen. 367 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,479 Speaker 3: People will always say I read a lot of business books. 368 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: I'm a serial entrepreneur and the one thing that you 369 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: read is successful people are delusional, and you're delusional and 370 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: you're crazy, and you're not in touch with reality until 371 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: you've proved that your insaneeness is actually sane and it's real. 372 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: In this situation, I think my bro is insane. I 373 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: think he's delusional, and I think that it's either cap 374 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: that's either major cap what he's throwing out there right now, 375 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: or he really believes that bringing in Geno Smith is 376 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 1: going to be a game changer where they get better results. Now, 377 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 1: he has thrown for over four thousand yards during his 378 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: time with the Seattle Seahawks, and that's only been done 379 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: by Joe Namath for the New York Jets. Just so 380 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: we're keeping this in the proper context, he also had 381 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: a winning record. He was over five hundred in Seattle, 382 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: and seemingly that Seattle team was going in the right 383 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: direction with him at quarterback. Only a year removed from 384 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: him not being there. They go win a super Bowl, 385 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: and I'm not going to say Sam Darnold was the 386 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: whole catalyst reason of them winning that Super Bowl. But 387 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 1: what he didn't do that that Geno Smith does is 388 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: turned the ball over. Plexico Burst Do you see this 389 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 1: as cap or is there the potential that you know, 390 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: he comes from a coaching tree where he's seen success 391 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 1: from nothing. They changed things around, they changed the culture 392 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: around in Detroit and we're able to turn that into 393 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: a competitive team and he and Ben Johnson benefited from it. 394 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 3: Do you see this? 395 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: Is he really believes this, this is really something that 396 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 1: can potentially happen or is he capping man? 397 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 3: Is this cap man? Look? I know Erondon very well. 398 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 4: I have a tremendous amount of respect for him as 399 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 4: a coach and as a player. I played against him 400 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 4: several times in my career. He's outstanding player. Uh, you know, 401 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 4: we had some great battles. You know, I'm very I'm 402 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 4: happy for him and in this transition from a player 403 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 4: to coach, and I know what kind of player he is. Also, 404 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 4: I know Geno Smith very well. We've had the opportunity 405 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 4: to train and work out together and and hang out, 406 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 4: and you know, I know his personality as a young 407 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 4: man and as a player. I heard he's a super 408 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 4: dope dude. 409 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 3: Man. Yeah, man, super dope dude. We're real cool man. 410 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 4: We've been out to dinner, man, We've hung out man 411 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,360 Speaker 4: and you know, I've got to know him. I love 412 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 4: the kid, tremendous amount of respect for him. But when 413 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 4: we are talking about the New York Jets, we are 414 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 4: I played for this franchise, and it's like this eerie 415 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 4: feeling of when you walk through the door, It's like, yuck. 416 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 3: Just what just happened to me? I don't call toxic culture. Yeah, 417 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 3: I don't feel good. 418 00:24:55,400 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 4: So I'm trying to understand the you know, why Geno 419 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 4: Smith would want to go back to the New York 420 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 4: Jets to play quarterback. My honest opinion is that I 421 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 4: don't believe that Geno Smith had anywhere else to go. 422 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 4: I really believe that if and I don't believe that 423 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 4: any quarterback in the free agent market wants to go 424 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 4: play quarterback for the New York Jets, and that is 425 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 4: how they ended up with Geno Smith. 426 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 3: I'm just keeping them. I'm just keep it in one 427 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 3: hundred because. 428 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 4: You don't go back to a franchise where you didn't 429 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 4: really have any success playing a position and now you 430 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 4: wire back under the same roof years later, and still 431 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 4: the situation has not gotten any better. So I think 432 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,479 Speaker 4: for him moving forward, you know, obviously they signed him 433 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 4: to a two year deal seventy five million. But for 434 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 4: him to walk into this building again and try to 435 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 4: try to lead this organization past a three and fourteen record. 436 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 4: They may win five or six games, I'll give them that. 437 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 4: But for Anne Grin to get on on this podium 438 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 4: or microphone on camera and say that Geno Smith is 439 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,360 Speaker 4: going to lead the New York Jets to the Promised Land. 440 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 3: How when and where? I don't believe it. What are 441 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 3: you looking at? I don't know. I have no idea. 442 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 3: What do you look at? 443 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 4: That many you're all pro cornerback is gone in Sauce Williams. 444 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:42,479 Speaker 4: He's down in Indianapolis, So you lose that factor on 445 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 4: your defense. And I just don't see how you can 446 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 4: be atop the division in the AFC East, the way 447 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 4: that the New England Patris are playing right now. The 448 00:26:55,359 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 4: mind not they the Buffalo Bills. So you're still ranked 449 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 4: third or fourth in the division. I don't believe that 450 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 4: Geno Smith is going to come into this organization and 451 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 4: change this team offensively. I believe that, Aaron Glenn, you 452 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 4: have to get on get on there and say something 453 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 4: positive about your team and try to build some confidence 454 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 4: along the way. But as far as him saying that 455 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 4: Geno Smith is going to lead them to the Promised Land, 456 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 4: I don't believe it. He doesn't believe it, and I 457 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 4: don't think anybody listen to what he had to say 458 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 4: believes him either. 459 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: There's there's someone in New York, in Long Island, and 460 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: there's someone in and around. They said they're from Stanton Allen. 461 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: Somebody believes it might be method Man. 462 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 3: You know. Somebody believed it might be the Fireman. 463 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: Somebody believes just like Aaron Glenn believes. They say, all 464 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: you need is is believe that size of a mustard 465 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: seed for for a miracle to happen. 466 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 4: It's going to take You mean, wasn't that? 467 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 3: And here's what I'll say to me. 468 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: I think everything that you said is the reason why 469 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: why Geno Smith wants to go to New York. 470 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 3: That what's different is the coach. Right. 471 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 1: If I were to say, you know, you asked a question, 472 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 1: what makes you believe that? Or outside of no one 473 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: else wanting him, which that's you know, starting that, you're 474 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: probably right where else are you going to go? Where 475 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: they want to bring you in as a starter. I 476 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: think there's also the conversation. Point here that that has 477 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: to be mentioned is that this New York Jets team 478 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: has very high first round draft picks and they're in 479 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: position to be able to get Ty Simpson if they 480 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: want in this year's draft. So Geno Smith could be 481 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: a bridge quarter back to that next guy. Everybody continues 482 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: to talk and hype up next year's quarterback class and 483 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: what that could look like. Maybe Geno Smith gets them 484 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: to next year and a little bit beyond based upon 485 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: if that rookie that. 486 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 3: They draft is ready or not. So there's a lot 487 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 3: of different ways. 488 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: To look at the quarterback situation in New York. But ultimately, 489 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: I think putting that large of a bullseye on yourself 490 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: maybe in this moment, maybe unnecessary. I know, you got 491 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: to sell hope. You definitely got to sell hope. And 492 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: it's crazy because you could easily look at this season 493 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: for Aaron Glenn as a make or break season for him. 494 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: It would not be beyond the round. Yeah, it wouldn't 495 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: be beyond the realm of possibility to think that Aaron 496 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: Glenn could lose his job before the seasons even concluded 497 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: this upcoming year, let alone making it to Black Monday 498 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: is it Black Monday, Black Friday, which one day is 499 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: a black Friday. Black Monday. Yeah, black Monday. Dang dark 500 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: skinn too dark. Yeah, he ain't like you either, And 501 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: so you know you gotta be if your coach doesn't 502 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: believe in the team, if the coach doesn't believe in 503 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: the players, then. 504 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 3: You don't have any chance. So I'm okay with it. 505 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 3: I'm on board. 506 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: I'm on board with the idea of him trying to 507 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: gas up his guys and build up his guys. 508 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 3: I'm okay with that. 509 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 4: It ain't that much gas in the world. Jeez, and listen. 510 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 4: If I'm the New York Jets, I have the second 511 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 4: pick in the draft, I don't. I don't think they're 512 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 4: going to take Tom Simpson that too. But if I 513 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 4: if Tye Simpson is available in the first pick of 514 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 4: the second round at number thirty three, I'm taking them. 515 00:30:59,320 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 3: M hmm. 516 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 4: I'm taking a quarterback with the first pick in the 517 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 4: second round at thirty three. So we'll see what the 518 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 4: New York Jets do do moving forward in the draft. 519 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 3: But you have to. 520 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 4: Somehow, some way kind of fix this organization. And listen, 521 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 4: I love Woody, Woody Johnson he bought me in to 522 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 4: play for this organization. But you know, from a football standpoint, 523 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 4: in the front office, the New York Justice have to 524 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 4: get some football people in the building. There's great facilities, 525 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:37,479 Speaker 4: medical staff, you know, food, all of those things are 526 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 4: a one but the number one thing about this organization 527 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 4: is that they have to find a way to put 528 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 4: a product on the football field that's respectable. And right now, 529 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 4: when the New York Jets go out on the football 530 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 4: field on Sunday, they're not respected. And you just mentioned it. 531 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 4: This may be the last season for Airnglyn because I 532 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 4: don't believe that you can win you know, six seven 533 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 4: games in a two year stint and still have a 534 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 4: still have a job the following season. So they have 535 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 4: to find out a way at least to win eight 536 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 4: or nine games because you cannot continue this organization over 537 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 4: the last fifty sixty seventy years to be in peril 538 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 4: where they have been, you know historically. So I don't 539 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 4: know how they're going to get it done. I think 540 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 4: Geno Smith is just you know a bridge for them 541 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 4: to you know, you know, kind of salvage the twenty 542 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 4: twenty six season. But I think they're going to be 543 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 4: a bad football team again this season. 544 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: Well, I tell you who doesn't need salvaging and who's 545 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: doing very well is the San Antonio Spurs. You know 546 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: where you're your man Iceman. You know the Iceman where 547 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: you played. 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Good thing the guys are here to 601 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 2: bring you in case you missed that. 602 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 8: All right, well you got all right, so plax var 603 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,959 Speaker 8: You know how that joke for like in the NBA, 604 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 8: for like players that are doing horribly, like oh yeah, 605 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,720 Speaker 8: next season you're gonna be playing for the Shanghai Sharks, 606 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,280 Speaker 8: you know that little joke like they're going. 607 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 9: Across seas well. I have a report here. This is 608 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 9: not a joke, and it's actually kind of cool. It's 609 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 9: not the Shanghai Sharks, but we have a signing going 610 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 9: to the Chinese Basketball Association for the Non. 611 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 6: Jang Monkey Kings. It is the Non Jang Monkey Kings 612 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 6: have signed I know. 613 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,280 Speaker 3: Why do I know? Teams over here called the Monkeys 614 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 3: I don't know, okay, just curious. 615 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 9: I don't know, man, I don't make the rules, all right, Okay, anyways, 616 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 9: but we do have an American. 617 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 3: Penn State Nitney line. Imagine if we were to Penn State. Well, anyway, 618 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 3: go ahead. 619 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 6: Well we do have an American going over to China. 620 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 3: Here. 621 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 9: It is not a basketball player, no rapper, J Cole. 622 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 9: This is not an April fool's joke. By the way, 623 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 9: this is real. J. Coole's going because he's played professionally 624 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 9: before on other teams. He's actually he just signed yesterday 625 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,320 Speaker 9: with to Go Play, to Go Play, Nanjang. 626 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 3: I mean you got one. 627 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 4: I saw that, Yeah, I saw that. JA Cole is 628 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 4: an avid hooper. You know he's I think he played overseas. 629 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 4: I believe it was in Africa a few years ago. 630 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 4: But uh, he's a hoopo man. You know he's he's athletic. 631 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,279 Speaker 4: He got a pretty nice game on him. Man, So 632 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 4: I've seen him play a few times. So a man, 633 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 4: kudos to him. Man humbling himself to take on playing 634 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 4: pro basketball. 635 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 3: Man, that's dope. 636 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, chase your dreams man, That's what I say. Whoever 637 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,320 Speaker 1: you want to do, try to do it. Give it 638 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: a go. 639 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 3: You know, why not? Why not? 640 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 4: Why he's already mastered the rap game, so coach, try 641 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 4: to master something else. 642 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 1: Hey, man, if you get an opportunity to go be 643 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 1: a monkey and and hoop, I mean, why not. 644 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 3: What talking about talking about the basketball team? All right? 645 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 3: What else you got? What else you got, Patty? All right? 646 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 9: So well, chase your dreams, Jay col You know someone 647 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 9: that almost was chasing a legitimate dream, well, Tom Izzo here, guys, 648 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 9: he was actually in serious consideration and talks with the 649 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 9: Phoenix Sons about their coaching vacancy in twenty twenty five. Obviously, 650 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,879 Speaker 9: you know he's still with Michigan State now, but there 651 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 9: were serious talks and then they just fell through. 652 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 4: You know, rightfully. So I know Matt Ishbia. You know, 653 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 4: I went to school with him. He was on a 654 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 4: basketball team when we won a national championship back in 655 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 4: two thousands. 656 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 3: Uh, you know, we were great friends. 657 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 4: But Matt, I love you, but leave my coach alone. 658 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,839 Speaker 4: We need him in East Lancing. We don't need him 659 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 4: to go to Phoenix and coach your sons. We need 660 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,760 Speaker 4: him in east Land. And he's a legend. He's a marty, 661 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:06,879 Speaker 4: he's a pill of the community. And I think coach 662 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 4: is for turning it down because, uh, coach is o 663 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 4: is Michigan State. That's my guy. Love him to death. 664 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 4: Leave my coach alone. 665 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:24,359 Speaker 3: Matt is spotter. Yes it is. Well he stayed so, 666 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 3: but he ain't staying in the tournament this year. But 667 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 3: that's okay. That's going to be. There's always next year, always, 668 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 3: always next year. Many we loved about four man. It 669 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 3: was a great game. 670 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 4: We didn't play as well if we wanted to on 671 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:37,279 Speaker 4: the first half. 672 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,799 Speaker 3: We came back. We're we're not out of gas, but 673 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 3: we'll be back. I was all coaching, What else you got? 674 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,280 Speaker 3: Will you got anything else? Paddy? 675 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, I do. 676 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 3: I do. 677 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 9: Actually, so plax, he said, you know, stay, you know 678 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 9: we're staying back and just keep him here. Well, you 679 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 9: know what, we have another one here. Bill Self is 680 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 9: set to return and still stay with the Kansas Jayhawks. 681 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 9: There was speculation the last couple weeks like maybe he 682 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 9: retires here, you know, some health concerns and all this. Well, 683 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 9: it is confirmed that Bill Self will at least be 684 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,840 Speaker 9: here coaching for the twenty twenty six twenty twenty seven season. 685 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 4: Well, I'm I'm really surprised to that because I kind 686 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,799 Speaker 4: of thought that Bill self would take the same route 687 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 4: as Roy Williams. Roy Williams was the coach at Kansas 688 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,360 Speaker 4: before he went to North Carolina and Hubert Davis got fired, 689 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 4: so I thought that Bill self would be the next 690 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 4: Tar Hill Tar Hill coach Albert Breer