Speaker 1: What Is Up?
Speaker 2: Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode of the Mets
Speaker 2: Up Podcast. Mets did not sweep the Phillies, not back
Speaker 2: in They lost two of three, and it's just so bad.
Speaker 2: It's so so bad. We tried to be positive and
Speaker 2: didn't work. Didn't work at all. No, the positivity, it's
Speaker 2: only for the next It's not for the New York Mets.
Speaker 2: We won't be talking about the next in this episode,
Speaker 2: as much as I'd love too. It's gonna be all Mets.
Speaker 2: David Peterson, Freddie Peralta. Remember remember when we won Game
Speaker 2: one on Thursday and then had an off day? I
Speaker 2: mean then the MLB had the coolest down the World Cup.
Speaker 2: Didn't want to see the Mets get hot, because boy,
Speaker 2: oh boy, did they do the opposite of get hot.
Speaker 2: They played some really awful baseball to end the series
Speaker 2: in Philadelphia. Before get going into it, make sure you
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Speaker 2: A lot of ass and not the good kind. It's
Speaker 2: just a lot of ass.
Speaker 1: No, lots of negativity. This is one of those two
Speaker 1: game stretches where you watch your favorite team play baseball.
Speaker 1: You know they don't belong on the field to the
Speaker 1: team on the other side of them. And that's a
Speaker 1: team that just got hot, just got over five hundred,
Speaker 1: still a very good team in the Phillies. But this
Speaker 1: is you weren't even competitive in these two games. You
Speaker 1: had theoretically your best or second best pitcher on the
Speaker 1: mound in one of them, and you couldn't even sniff
Speaker 1: the other team. Again, you were going up against two aces,
Speaker 1: two of the five to the three or four best
Speaker 1: pitchers in the entire National League. You didn't have a
Speaker 1: chance for a second in either of these games on
Speaker 1: Saturday or Sunday, not even a moment. No, it's pretty impossible.
Speaker 2: When Freddy Prault comes out the gate and just gives
Speaker 2: up a bomb to Bryce Harper, gets absolutely tattooed. Two
Speaker 2: and two thirds innings, ten hits, ten earned runs. It's
Speaker 2: gotta be one of the worst pitching performances of his career,
Speaker 2: one of the worst pitching performances we've seen for the
Speaker 2: Mets in quite some time.
Speaker 1: That was the worst game of his career, definitely the
Speaker 1: worst game of his career. Runs. He drives me fucking crazy.
Speaker 2: I'm sure Freddy's a great guy, but he does not
Speaker 2: got the fucking balls or the dog to pitch for
Speaker 2: the New York Mets, which sounds insane because the Mets
Speaker 2: aren't even a playoff team, so there's no pressure whatsoever.
Speaker 2: They should be Freddy Perltz should be auditioning for every
Speaker 2: team in Major League Baseball and hopefully a team that's
Speaker 2: good wants him. Who's who's gonna be trading for this guy?
Speaker 2: He's he's double fucking us. He's keeping us out of
Speaker 2: the game with the standings. And then he said, oh,
Speaker 2: by the way, you know how you're gonna trade me
Speaker 2: because we're out of it because partially I've been pitching
Speaker 2: like dog shit this year. Well, it's gonna get even worse,
Speaker 2: so you're gonna get even less back.
Speaker 1: It's gonna go.
Speaker 2: David Stearns, I don't know how he's done it, but
Speaker 2: the trades on paper feel so good, and they have
Speaker 2: all magnificently been disasters, absolute disasters.
Speaker 1: Wasscar Brass Bond's the best trade he ever made, one
Speaker 1: of the best trades anyone's ever made. But that's also
Speaker 1: why I don't know, because there's so much there's so
Speaker 1: much talk in Mets world baseball media, everything about the
Speaker 1: job of David Starns and where this he may is,
Speaker 1: where this team's going, all of that, it's very hard
Speaker 1: to blame the guy for acquiring Freddie Pralton. Freddy Prawltz
Speaker 1: decides to pitch by far the worst he ever has
Speaker 1: in his career, so much the conundrum've been saying about
Speaker 1: Boba Schett, where that one even looked worse on paper
Speaker 1: than acquiring Freddie Peralta. Still for the Packers, the Met
Speaker 1: gave up with Freddy Perlta. I still didn't even feel
Speaker 1: bad about the trade. Again from a process standpoint, But
Speaker 1: all you could do is put these guys in the
Speaker 1: team together and hope they can go out and play,
Speaker 1: especially Freddy Peralta, where everything is is so much worse
Speaker 1: this year, way worse. It's so much worse. And again
Speaker 1: he wasn't even pitching that poorly until this most recent start,
Speaker 1: of course, like his era was still in the low
Speaker 1: for his high threes. Now it's like, yeah, Anthony Como
Speaker 1: has been running with the line a few times that
Speaker 1: he has I think the fifty eighth highest era of
Speaker 1: sixty five or sixty six qualified us good qualified pitchers.
Speaker 1: Now it's really good. But then even just like when
Speaker 1: you look under the hood, like it's easy to be
Speaker 1: it's easy to take the stance like, Okay, he will
Speaker 1: not continue to be this bad, because of course he
Speaker 1: can't continue to be this bad. But this is frustrating
Speaker 1: that the guy like Freddie drops his arm angle. He's
Speaker 1: getting slightly different movement in all of his pitches. The
Speaker 1: fastball has a little bit less ride, way less up
Speaker 1: cut on it, and nothing's performing as well. And again
Speaker 1: I don't even feel like going deep into Freddie Prolton
Speaker 1: numbers on this, but you're watching pitching like, oh, that's
Speaker 1: a guy who just not doesn't look like he's equipped
Speaker 1: to get after it right now.
Speaker 2: No, he's not someone who is ready to be a
Speaker 2: major league pitcher. And there's a lot of guys on
Speaker 2: this roster who are not capable of being major league
Speaker 2: pitchers despite being major league pitchers in the past. And again,
Speaker 2: like I give Mendoza a lot of flak for a
Speaker 2: lot of the struggles for the New York Mets this year,
Speaker 2: I'm also going to give Justin Willard in the pitching
Speaker 2: staff a lot of flak because nobody is seemingly pitching
Speaker 2: better than we really expected it. Shaman I, I mean,
Speaker 2: I guess it took him three months a while, and
Speaker 2: even still it's like not great, it's.
Speaker 1: Not pretty good. Now he's right now, I think Shelman
Speaker 1: I is pitching like a quality three.
Speaker 2: Shamany is the best picture on this team right now,
Speaker 2: which is the problem.
Speaker 1: No McClain ratio. But again, like if you have those
Speaker 1: two guys in average Freddy, if you have this current
Speaker 1: version of and I, the current version of maclain, an
Speaker 1: average version of Freddy Peralta, the current of Christian Scott,
Speaker 1: like we said that would have been a good I'm
Speaker 1: I'm leaving out the fifth star because we'll get to
Speaker 1: that in the second of God. God, it makes me mad,
Speaker 1: but it's just even like going through the rest of
Speaker 1: that game. Besides Fridday, Peralta, that was that was one
Speaker 1: of the worst baseball game has ever been played in
Speaker 1: the field if you leave for the Mets. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: It was an incredibly excruciating watch, which is saying a
Speaker 2: lot in twenty twenty six for the New York Mets,
Speaker 2: but for the offense to perform like it did. I know,
Speaker 2: Christopher Sanchez is really good. Mark Viento's cut the lead
Speaker 2: the forty, which was of course the classic Mark Fiendo's
Speaker 2: It's crazy. He owns Christopher Sanchez absolutely owns his ass.
Speaker 2: And only Christopher Sanchez pisched against Mark Vento's for every
Speaker 2: at bat, he'd be a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, think about Vento's his batpath, the
Speaker 1: sinker ball or lefty like that's time's the ideal matchup
Speaker 1: for him. Yeah, he's Evan Brady go down there and
Speaker 1: get that one. But had a great tweet here from
Speaker 1: Sarah Langs that with Bryce Harper and Kyle Schwarber, the
Speaker 1: Phillies are the second team MLB history with players with
Speaker 1: a cycle and a three homer game in the same game. Jordan, wait,
Speaker 1: can I ran real quick? Actually finish your staff forge
Speaker 1: sins this. I have two couple of stats about that. Then,
Speaker 1: we're rant about that. We'll go up and down with this.
Speaker 1: But the last time that happened was June third, nineteen
Speaker 1: thirty two Yankees at the Philadelphia Athletics. Tony Lazari hit
Speaker 1: for the cycle. Luke Garrick had his four home run game.
Speaker 1: That was also in Philadelphia. What that's crazy. That is crazy.
Speaker 2: That's absolutely saying you know, it's even crazier. Yeah, how
Speaker 2: fugazi Bryce Harper's triple was. That is not a triple.
Speaker 2: That's never been a triple in the history of baseball.
Speaker 2: That's not a cycle. That is the most ego stroking
Speaker 2: triple I've ever seen in my life. One book, Yeah,
Speaker 2: home book. The dude was on second base when the
Speaker 2: short song called the ball to throw it at home.
Speaker 2: He advanced on the throw. I don't care if the
Speaker 2: entire way Bryce Harper was looking for triple. That's not
Speaker 2: how the game of baseball scored. The Mets still got
Speaker 2: their ass absolutely trounced, so whatever doesn't really matter. But yeah,
Speaker 2: that's a that's a That cycle should have.
Speaker 1: An asterix next to it. That was not a triple.
Speaker 1: You wind up with the cycle next to the asterisk
Speaker 1: that we got about fifteen to three. Yeah, yeah, you
Speaker 1: guess fine, you could do that to I might have
Speaker 1: lost a fantasy game because of cycle.
Speaker 2: Oh he put up ninety points for me in one
Speaker 2: of my fantasy leagues. It was one May the league week.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, leagues that have cycle bonuses. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I played against Bryce Harper. Our league has a cycle bonus.
Speaker 1: I lost by fifteen points. Yeah, you dontally now that. Now,
Speaker 1: now pissed about the cycle, Let's get every major league scoring.
Speaker 1: Let's get rid of that cycle. It's all banded together.
Speaker 1: Undo that cycle by Bryce Harper. But again, hometown scoring.
Speaker 1: You're winning by fifteen. You had you with a twelve batter,
Speaker 1: eight run inning. Kyle Schwarper had two home runs in
Speaker 1: the same inning.
Speaker 2: How about just the idea that Bryce Harp Yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean that's crazy. Just again, I kind of glanced over
Speaker 2: that two home runs in one inning. How about the
Speaker 2: idea that the Phillies felt so in control and like
Speaker 2: they were playing with the ball, that Bryce Harper had
Speaker 2: the audacity to go to third base on that ball
Speaker 2: when the shortstop was catching it. The Phillies embarrassed the
Speaker 2: Mets this weekend in a series that the Mets won
Speaker 2: a game. They started the series off one and oh
Speaker 2: Sean and I gotta win. And the Phillies this weekend
Speaker 2: absolutely embarrassed. The Mets showed everyone in Major League Baseball
Speaker 2: because these games are naturally televised.
Speaker 1: Both of them.
Speaker 2: This team is a fucking joke. This organization is a joke,
Speaker 2: and this team stinks. They don't deserve to even come close.
Speaker 1: To the playoffs. Dude, both of Schwarber's home runs at
Speaker 1: anyone four hundred and fifty feet. I did the quick
Speaker 1: snack cast check for I tried to get home runs
Speaker 1: in the same inning that both went four to fifty.
Speaker 1: I didn't find anything, so I don't think this happened
Speaker 1: stack cast era, but it could have been a little
Speaker 1: hazy on my search. And that was the fifth three
Speaker 1: homer game of Schwarber's career. That's a lot. That's a
Speaker 1: ton for a guy who hasn't had four, and he
Speaker 1: all different pictures. He also instantly hit the home run
Speaker 1: today so Sunday, so it's like he's got thirty homers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's got I mean Bryce Harper also has over twenty
Speaker 1: homers already. He's on pace for almost forty. Great bouts
Speaker 1: back by how elite Koshwarper had almost fifteen hundred feet
Speaker 1: of home runs and five at bats. That's insane against
Speaker 1: the Mets like it. Also, this is another tweet. I
Speaker 1: just was going through trying to find as many embarrassing
Speaker 1: stats as I could since the start of the MLB season.
Speaker 1: This Rons and whatever they're probably gambling. I didn't want
Speaker 1: to look in to see what he even said. Their
Speaker 1: name sleep it, bleep it, I'll bleep it a forty
Speaker 1: I'll believe. Well, Yeah, the Mets have more losses by
Speaker 1: twelve runs than the Knicks have of twelve points since
Speaker 1: the baseball season started. That's an It's impossible. How is
Speaker 1: it even possible.
Speaker 2: That the Mets have more twelve run losses than the
Speaker 2: Knicks lost by twelve points?
Speaker 1: The Knicks probably have only had seven or eight losses
Speaker 1: since the start of the omb season. Nicks just won
Speaker 1: championship with three total losses. That's enough to that. That's insane.
Speaker 2: This team is so bad and like Freddy Peralta completely
Speaker 2: shipped down his leg, showed everyone that he's a child
Speaker 2: and amongst men like he's got nothing.
Speaker 1: I'm out on Freddy, trade him tomorrow. There's no hope.
Speaker 2: He's not gonna be a good New York met ever,
Speaker 2: and I'm sorry, Freddy, great guy wasn't gonna work. But
Speaker 2: then CNL prez comes in and he fucking sucks. He's
Speaker 2: got absolutely nothing.
Speaker 1: He's the mop up guys, last kind of pen shocker,
Speaker 1: the guy that the Orioles who have no good bullpen
Speaker 1: arms didn't want, couldn't get it done. And then one
Speaker 1: good bullpen arm, one bullpen oh Rico Garcia.
Speaker 2: Yeahah, of course, how dare you what this team would
Speaker 2: be without? With Rico Garcia? Tobias Meyers, because again, who
Speaker 2: what's his role? We'll never find out. He gets absolutely destroyed.
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Speaker 1: So Laura Albin said, a good sweet tonight too. Aj
Speaker 1: Minter told her Mets relievers had a competitive tally going
Speaker 1: of who can throw a Clay inning that's an inning
Speaker 1: inspired by Clay Holmes with fifteen or fewer pitches. Zach
Speaker 1: Short did that in the eighth inning on Saturday. Yes,
Speaker 1: Zach Short, Agay, this Met's bullpen right now is working
Speaker 1: with so much magic. Anyone can step out there and
Speaker 1: do well, and we're wasting A great bullpen could you.
Speaker 2: Believe that Kyle Schwarber hit three home runs in this game,
Speaker 2: Bryce Harper hit for the cycle and they didn't get
Speaker 2: any of those hits off of the short stop, the
Speaker 2: starting shortstop for the New York metswo pitcher of this game, which,
Speaker 2: by the way, why the fuck are we going back
Speaker 2: to this weird lefties can't face the leftiest thing Zach
Speaker 2: Short and Luise Terrenz in the same lineup on the
Speaker 2: same day. That's that's like a punishment that talk about antagonizing. Also,
Speaker 2: Zach Short one for four, three strikeouts. Enough of Zach Short,
Speaker 2: How do you get back here?
Speaker 1: The last time the Mets released Zach Short that win.
Speaker 1: The most magical run in franchise is push that don't
Speaker 1: bring back Hosea Glasias I come back. Also set me
Speaker 1: in hitting clean up, Wagonman hitting fifth like it was.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's fucking brain dead man paint whoever is
Speaker 2: doing it. I'm because at this point I gotta think
Speaker 2: that couldn't have been Mendoza, right, Surely, anybody who's ever
Speaker 2: watched baseball would never make this lineup.
Speaker 1: I could definitely see David Sans be like a new
Speaker 1: Wagman fifth spot, But Also, it does suck that the
Speaker 1: guys who were supposed to hit the lefties either are
Speaker 1: injured horror hitting them either, Like that's a painful thing.
Speaker 1: We're beginning season, We're like, oh, we're gonna get over
Speaker 1: this horrible lighter vers lefties thing because we have Bobashett
Speaker 1: lefty crusher. Jorge Polaco was very good as a righty.
Speaker 1: He pretty even splits out of Whitch Ether and Louis
Speaker 1: Roberts just, you know, always been good to get hitting lefties.
Speaker 1: Francisco Lindor just that shortstop fanciscoal stuff is interesting right now.
Speaker 1: The fact he's going to play Wednesday almost guaranteed it's crazy,
Speaker 1: does feel pretty nuts considered. He say he's very tired
Speaker 1: after the game today. I mean, he said he's gonna
Speaker 1: get a simulated the game tomorrow and off day Tuesday
Speaker 1: and saying back in the lineup. But I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's just they think that he's totally ready, because
Speaker 1: that's the kind of guy he is. I don't know
Speaker 1: if this is pure desperation by them, But like the
Speaker 1: fact that he's just playing the games around New York
Speaker 1: and like only this would say the first nine in
Speaker 1: any game, but the second one, like he's yeah, first one,
Speaker 1: I think this has been incredibly short rehab assignment for
Speaker 1: a player who was out for two full months with
Speaker 1: a with a pretty big injury, buge injury. Yeah, two
Speaker 1: minor league rehab games. I also, man, I love Louise Frends.
Speaker 2: We love Louise Frends elite backup, but like when you
Speaker 2: do see like a five eighty ops and then the
Speaker 2: fact that we gave him a two year contract seemingly
Speaker 2: kind of for no reason does feel a little bit
Speaker 2: stupid because now you kind of stop any sort of
Speaker 2: possible mobility there. And then also he catches back to
Speaker 2: back games for a team that can't score offensively.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: The process is broken. You can't trust the process. If
Speaker 2: Philly ever taught us anything, you can't trust the process.
Speaker 1: It does seem like we're moving a little bit more
Speaker 1: to again this pro defense lineup or a more regular basis
Speaker 1: much work. Yeah, But honestly, with how hitters around this team,
Speaker 1: I'm fine with dhing Alvarez because who's who think about this?
Speaker 1: Because you're beinghe Wagerman, You're basically I mean, I think
Speaker 1: he does the h good be play third like Saturday,
Speaker 1: play right field.
Speaker 2: On Saturday, he played right field and third base. But
Speaker 2: then here's the crazy thing.
Speaker 5: Is like like if he if he can play third base,
Speaker 5: then just put him at third base, but Bobash at
Speaker 5: his shortstop, Like we don't need to have this and
Speaker 5: let let aj Ewing, who's been one of our better hiders,
Speaker 5: which is insane because he's twenty one years old, instead
Speaker 5: of forcing Zach Short into the lineup.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this act short thing was weird, but again, these
Speaker 1: are these are the things that I'm happy that you
Speaker 1: have the stomach to get after them still because I've
Speaker 1: lost my will. I want to go Beningo on people
Speaker 1: you want to go Bengo, have a go Beningo segment.
Speaker 2: Just for you guys at home were We're just go this.
Speaker 2: This is a little bit of like playing it up
Speaker 2: for the Twitter clip here because we want to sly
Speaker 2: if we can get this to go viral?
Speaker 1: How do we How should I start it? What should
Speaker 1: I be? Uh? You have to think if you want
Speaker 1: a true Beningo clip, you have to do some kind
Speaker 1: of tagline that's like really demonstrative and forceful and like obvious,
Speaker 1: like you know, the new York Mets have given up.
Speaker 1: The New York Mets are a garbage baseball team and
Speaker 1: a garbage yeah some shit like that. Yeah, I'll start
Speaker 1: it all right, Here we go, Here go.
Speaker 2: The New York Mets are a garbage team. They've given
Speaker 2: up on the season. You watch this team play every
Speaker 2: single day. There is no one playing hard. Nobody is inspired.
Speaker 2: The pitching stinks, the bullpen stinks, the lineup stinks. They
Speaker 2: can't score any runs, they can't let up any runs
Speaker 2: because we focused on defense this season. The defense is horrible.
Speaker 2: We have one of the worst defensive second basemen in
Speaker 2: the entire league. Mark Fientos doesn't know how to play
Speaker 2: first base. Our catching is switching every single time. We
Speaker 2: have guys in the outfield who've never played the outfield before.
Speaker 2: And yet the Mets still, with all this great defense
Speaker 2: and the new pitching and all these new bats, they
Speaker 2: still get outscored in a series by one hundred and
Speaker 2: they look embarrassed on a national stage.
Speaker 1: And what's Carls Mendoza doing.
Speaker 2: He's sitting there in the dugout with the same stupid
Speaker 2: fucking face he's add on.
Speaker 1: For the entirety of his career.
Speaker 2: Twiddling his thumbs, and the Mets continue to do nothing
Speaker 2: but sit on their hands and expect something to change,
Speaker 2: despite seeing like two hundred games of bad.
Speaker 1: Play scene good Beno.
Speaker 2: Clip, Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, gosht
Speaker 2: off ft people clipping that we appreciate you guys for
Speaker 2: any think out.
Speaker 1: Thank you guys all. But it is kind of how
Speaker 1: it feels you're series like this. I was gonna get you.
Speaker 1: I was gonna get you in the bullpen's things. I
Speaker 1: was gonna get you on that one. I didn't want
Speaker 1: to interrupt. I want to ruin the clip. I was
Speaker 1: gonna get you on that one. That's just for the clip.
Speaker 1: The bullpen has been the least of our issues. Can
Speaker 1: we talk about our favorite thing to talk about right now?
Speaker 1: The non clarity of pitching roles on this team. It's
Speaker 1: the best, yeah, please, because we talked about it in
Speaker 1: the the big blowout, the two big blowouts to go
Speaker 1: now three big blowouts to go now technically Monday against
Speaker 1: the Reds, but the Mets are kind of out of
Speaker 1: pitching and they're losing a game by double digit runs, which, again,
Speaker 1: does that have it down familiar? Did you watch the
Speaker 1: Mets on Saturday night as well, did you watch them
Speaker 1: on Tuesday too? And David Peterson comes in as the
Speaker 1: mop up guy. You basically had the choice between Luis
Speaker 1: Terenz and David Peterson as who's going to pitch when
Speaker 1: a game is over, and then you get to Sunday,
Speaker 1: a rubber game against your division rival. As a series
Speaker 1: victory would be so incredibly important to kind of the flow,
Speaker 1: and like we even talked about on the positive episode,
Speaker 1: like winning the series, sweeping Smet, the Phillies, wol have
Speaker 1: gotten this actually back into this mentally winning the series,
Speaker 1: especially stopping the momentum after a slacking on national television
Speaker 1: on Saturday, that would have at least bread some good things.
Speaker 1: You still feel like you're treading water. You feel like
Speaker 1: with a home stand coming up, you can start to
Speaker 1: keep chipping away at this. And for David Peterson to
Speaker 1: walk out there in the first inning, not help by
Speaker 1: his defense either, but again the face, the shoulders, missing
Speaker 1: his spots, like fighting against everything, throwing weird pitchers in
Speaker 1: weird counts, having so many sliders that were nowhere fucking close,
Speaker 1: and then to be back in the hole instantaneously, and
Speaker 1: then Kyle Schwarber hitting another home run to the fucking
Speaker 1: moon is next at bat. How can you try to
Speaker 1: be compared to the baseball team and win games where
Speaker 1: the guy that you said, we're only choosing you over
Speaker 1: a position player on Monday, Now you're starting a legiti
Speaker 1: big game for US on national television, in a very
Speaker 1: important rubber game, and you have nothing left.
Speaker 2: David Peterson is such a level of ass did I
Speaker 2: honestly didn't really think it was possible going into tonight.
Speaker 2: Let's see, he basically has like the worst era or
Speaker 2: the fourth worst era in baseball with at least sixty innings.
Speaker 1: Pitch.
Speaker 2: The guys ahead of him, two of them pitching Colorado.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's the David Peterson thing Colorado connection. Kyle Freeland,
Speaker 2: who has a seven point three six, Michael Lorenzen, who
Speaker 2: shut out the Mets I think earlier this year, has
Speaker 2: a seven point one to three, and Andrew Painters, coming
Speaker 2: off of major Tommy John surgery, has a seven point
Speaker 2: zero six. Then the guys around was like, Brian BeO
Speaker 2: sent down, Jack Cohniwitz sucks, Zach Gallon stinks, Brandon sprote.
Speaker 1: We traded him like.
Speaker 2: Wow, he David Peterson, if the Mets had any balls,
Speaker 2: if the Mets honestly had an arm that they even
Speaker 2: thought could be a major league pitcher, which has the
Speaker 2: most disappointed in right now, because we had been hearing
Speaker 2: about this pitching lab forever and ever, and right now
Speaker 2: clock struck midnight, and we've got nothing in the pitching
Speaker 2: lab left. It seems like because we're gonna throw out
Speaker 2: David Peterson again, and he's going to get his apps,
Speaker 2: He's gonna get his ass absolutely handed to him. He's
Speaker 2: gonna give up another six runs in five innings. The
Speaker 2: Mets are gonna lose another game because it's impossible to
Speaker 2: for this offense to score six runs over a full game,
Speaker 2: let alone when they're down six runs in the fourth inning.
Speaker 2: David Peterson should not be on a competitive baseball team.
Speaker 2: David Peterson shouldn't be on a bad baseball team. This
Speaker 2: version of him is unrosterable, He is unusable, He is useless.
Speaker 1: I think Anthony Dicomo basically told us through the lines
Speaker 1: that this he will not be in the rotation anymore.
Speaker 1: After the game he started, he started this column after
Speaker 1: this game saying this time, David Peterson's tenure. The mes
Speaker 1: rotation really could be coming to an end this time.
Speaker 2: David major league career in New York City should be
Speaker 2: coming to an end. He should not pitch another game
Speaker 2: from that. He doesn't have it, And like, I'm sort
Speaker 2: of thinking he had to have been hurt, right, because
Speaker 2: there's just there's such a hard drop from the production
Speaker 2: that we saw from him last year to what we've
Speaker 2: seen from that point on, where it's like is he
Speaker 2: hurt or is.
Speaker 1: He dog shit? I think it also could be a lesson.
Speaker 1: And we talk about this a lot, and how much
Speaker 1: more reliable stuff is on the game by game, week
Speaker 1: by week, month by month's basis than commands, because Dave
Speaker 1: Pearson has always had a guy whose stuff could float
Speaker 1: towards average, be definitely okay at times. This command has
Speaker 1: trended at times in his career, which is also right
Speaker 1: now to looking like one of the worst in all baseball.
Speaker 1: But there was a two month golden stretch where he
Speaker 1: had pinpoint command, four quadrants all of his pitches and
Speaker 1: it was beautiful. And I think sometimes you just can't
Speaker 1: sustain that. You just can't. Dave Houseman's those long limbs,
Speaker 1: like you can't get them all working the way you
Speaker 1: want them to.
Speaker 2: Every single time you pitch, We're better off putting the
Speaker 2: ball on a tee. I'm not even kidding. I think
Speaker 2: if the Mets put a ball on a tee, they
Speaker 2: might get better outcomes than David Peterson pitching. He's he's
Speaker 2: like totally in my fucking doghouse. I can't watch him
Speaker 2: pitch anymore, especially because the attitude. This team's got an
Speaker 2: attitude problem. By the way, on the fringes, two of.
Speaker 1: Those singles in the first standing were just complete doinkers.
Speaker 2: He still was he doesn't have enough dog to even
Speaker 2: get through that because he gets those binkers and he's like,
Speaker 2: oh I'm e or woe is me?
Speaker 1: What a terrible day? Rain cloud on my head? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then the second thing was when the home run happened.
Speaker 1: But like those like those two first runs on were nothing,
Speaker 1: absolutely nothing. Those reinfield singles bullshit. But again digress. Besides
Speaker 1: the point, it's just I think Christian Scott is going
Speaker 1: to be back when he's immediately eligible, which is Saturday.
Speaker 1: So I think we will do some shuffling as we
Speaker 1: get you know, get the series preview soon here, because's
Speaker 1: not that much I'll say about this series. That's not
Speaker 1: much they've done it this besides Brett Baby being more
Speaker 1: lost than he's actually ever been. This is the worst
Speaker 1: baseball bred Bay's ever player, just saying something. But with
Speaker 1: no off day because we have cups for four, he
Speaker 1: might just need to pitch again. Someone has to pitch
Speaker 1: on Friday? Me? Can I throw? Someone said that on Twitter,
Speaker 1: he said they'd love to see you or I get
Speaker 1: it in and during this Cup series? I'm in, why
Speaker 1: not have some fun?
Speaker 4: Was there?
Speaker 1: This pitch is illegal in nineteen states? Oh yeah, this
Speaker 1: is the chopper sue screwball. It killed a man in Tuscunoosa.
Speaker 1: I mean, what's he doing this week? Cedric on the mound?
Speaker 1: Oh fuck yeah, that would be vibes. Does he want
Speaker 1: to face the again the Phillies on Friday night at
Speaker 1: City Field. I'm in. I'll go to that game. Give
Speaker 1: me a ticket. Yeah. This whole thing is just he's lost.
Speaker 1: There's nothing left there. You could see Mendoza after the
Speaker 1: game basically being like, how I was supposed to have
Speaker 1: a chance with that? Put that out there? You see
Speaker 1: what that was like.
Speaker 2: You gave Mendoz a credit last episode. I'll give him
Speaker 2: credit for that. He was just like, this.
Speaker 1: Is my doing.
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Speaker 1: So another thing too. I just want to talk about
Speaker 1: the Phillies for a second, because these teams had the
Speaker 1: same record Mets. In the Phillies, they're both nine and nineteen.
Speaker 1: Once we got to the beginning of the end of
Speaker 1: April and what the Phillies do. There's a tweet from
Speaker 1: Sam Block the Phillies have forty two and thirty five
Speaker 1: and the Mets are now thirty four and forty three
Speaker 1: when they both started out in nine to nineteen. And
Speaker 1: again that was partially I think a lot of the credit,
Speaker 1: especially in the national media, goes to the firing of
Speaker 1: Rob Thompson. But the firing of Robobs and the hiring
Speaker 1: of Don Mattingly very conveniently happened. Like the week that
Speaker 1: Zach Wheeler came back. Sure that was that Billy Martin's lines,
Speaker 1: that Loop Penella's line was like the best day to have,
Speaker 1: like a closed door meeting or a players only meeting
Speaker 1: is when you're a cent the man the next day, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And the Phillies are thirty four and eighteen since Wheeler
Speaker 1: came back. Now he doesn't pitch in all those games,
Speaker 1: for sure, not but there's there's a lift that happens
Speaker 1: in that. I saw another stat the Phillies are like
Speaker 1: something like forty and fifteen when it's a game started
Speaker 1: by Sanchez, Zzar the Wheeler, and they're like fifteen games
Speaker 1: on there, five hundred with the rest of the guys.
Speaker 1: But this just again, that is the biggest difference about
Speaker 1: these teams, these organizations. And we talked about the top
Speaker 1: year and Freddie Pewlt has never been on, never been
Speaker 1: close to being up part of guys like Zach Wheeler,
Speaker 1: Christopher Sanchez much closer actually more of a Lozardo, much
Speaker 1: more of Lazardo. I don't know what I'm getting. Sometimes
Speaker 1: it's good. I hope he gets hot, but the messages
Speaker 1: still don't have that. They haven't really had a steadying
Speaker 1: force in this rotation for a long time now, and
Speaker 1: until Nolan McClain keeps getting older and more consistent, I
Speaker 1: think it will be him one day, but it's not
Speaker 1: him yet. It's hard to expect a guy in his
Speaker 1: rookie year for that's different to actually be that guy now,
Speaker 1: And that was unfair. I think of a lot of
Speaker 1: us to throw it down a guy like Nolan McLay
Speaker 1: now Freddie pewl' is supposed to all the pressure off him.
Speaker 1: Those guys supposed to make a good one too, and
Speaker 1: they're supposed to make this inconsistent time over time, and
Speaker 1: we're still were still probably John Tongue kind of becoming
Speaker 1: the biggest prospect dropper in all of baseball.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to have the same excitement you once
Speaker 2: had over him, where Jeez can't get over.
Speaker 1: The triple A hump even remotely. No, it's because he can't.
Speaker 1: He actually just can't get pictures that go left consistently,
Speaker 1: and they keep trying, and again, it's still the kind
Speaker 1: of thing with Tongue where I don't give a shit
Speaker 1: about his prospect rankings. I don't give a shit about
Speaker 1: his stats and triple A. I don't give a shit
Speaker 1: about anyone stat's triple A. I want to see development.
Speaker 1: And we're gonna dig a lot deeper again this week
Speaker 1: or next. We're gonna get a lot of good mind
Speaker 1: leagu stuff for you guys, both good and bad, because
Speaker 1: we need a good sense of what's going on on there.
Speaker 1: You guys have been asking us that a lot, but
Speaker 1: you just kind of wish that there was more this
Speaker 1: depth that was ready to go and we wouldn't have
Speaker 1: to be relying on David Peterson anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, give Zack Thornton another look. Why not
Speaker 2: juice your friend Meek, Phil Sweet not what a meek say?
Speaker 1: I love Meek. The difference of the front offices between
Speaker 1: the one with last Neeks match for you guys, between
Speaker 1: the Knicks and the Mets over the last few years,
Speaker 1: where the Knicks had a lot of homegrown players who
Speaker 1: were all pretty good and all still have roles around
Speaker 1: the NBA, and they just went cut bait across the board.
Speaker 1: Let's be cutthroat, Let's get as better as we can
Speaker 1: right now. Not holding on the Quinton Grimes giving him
Speaker 1: more money and he was worth that was a great move,
Speaker 1: not trying to not trying to ever put the manual
Speaker 1: Quickly and Jalen Bruns in the backcourt together because those
Speaker 1: two player archetypes never going to blend. Understanding the RJ.
Speaker 1: Barrett was kind of capped as a player who was
Speaker 1: never gonna get better than the guy he was. Yet
Speaker 1: like RJ. Barrett's is a fantastic get knocked out in the
Speaker 1: first or second round, second or their best player in
Speaker 1: your team. If he ever became a sixth man, he'd
Speaker 1: win it every single year. Yeah, but maybe that probably
Speaker 1: is the next iteration of him. But then whereas the
Speaker 1: mess And again not that basketball and baseball's won to one.
Speaker 1: Basketball so much more of a fitting player types together.
Speaker 1: It's a little more cutthroat too, you have to be.
Speaker 1: But and you don't really do these kind of trades
Speaker 1: in baseball because the way the owners and the GM's
Speaker 1: MANAGEDIP teams, everything is off for a cost base reliant.
Speaker 1: But just letting this generation of homegrown players kind of not.
Speaker 1: I don't think many of these guys even had much
Speaker 1: value to begin with. I don't they agree with all
Speaker 1: the stuff, especially negative the beversus squalers. I'm still always
Speaker 1: going to be in his camp. But yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: whole it's a whole batch of homegrown guys that suck.
Speaker 1: And that probably is more reflection on what was going
Speaker 1: on this organization for the last five years, about the
Speaker 1: lack of developmental infrastructure, the lack of good quality people
Speaker 1: in place to help develop.
Speaker 2: The lack of really good needs to try and find
Speaker 2: those guys that could fill in for Cheap and Brett Baty,
Speaker 2: Mark Fientos, Ronnie Mauricio at times like being those guys.
Speaker 2: And now the really again fucked up thing is that
Speaker 2: we look back on and it's like, damn, they didn't
Speaker 2: really bring any value to this team and we didn't
Speaker 2: really get any value out of them when there were
Speaker 2: times where we could have. And this is this is
Speaker 2: the conversation always about prospect hugging and trading and player
Speaker 2: development and what you do and you do see and
Speaker 2: this is something that I always like make fun of
Speaker 2: with you for the Yankees. But like the Yankees almost
Speaker 2: never keep any of their guys. The Yankees have good
Speaker 2: teams every single year, besides the really good ones, besides
Speaker 2: the besides Aaron Judge, besides the Bush, besides the bona
Speaker 2: fide can't miss studs right now, like the guys who
Speaker 2: are questionable, the guys who are like just to give
Speaker 2: you a WRC thing like we always joke about with
Speaker 2: the Reds where they're ninety to one ten. The Yankees
Speaker 2: don't keep those guys. They don't exist on the roster.
Speaker 2: They don't want that variability. They only go for the
Speaker 2: top end talent. That's why you see guys like Clint
Speaker 2: Fraser ranting on Twitter about how he never got a
Speaker 2: chance with the Yankees.
Speaker 1: Again, the Yankees probably alway knew guy that Clint Fraser
Speaker 1: never deserved.
Speaker 2: The chance, of course, that's what I'm saying it, but
Speaker 2: like deserves probably the wrong word, but it probably fucked
Speaker 2: up with Biento's baby, Mauricio and even some other guys
Speaker 2: on this roster.
Speaker 1: And it's also the thing where you made the comment
Speaker 1: about the pitching lab before. And I do think these
Speaker 1: things take years. I think years and years are like
Speaker 1: we were undoing, we were plunging a toilet that had
Speaker 1: so much shit stuck in it. The Mets were the
Speaker 1: last team in baseball to have actually like a true
Speaker 1: analytics departments, the Mets and the Rockies. So if you're
Speaker 1: comparing us to them, we've done a lot back in
Speaker 1: then with the last five fucking years. But like the
Speaker 1: fact that we have reset everything and there's like there
Speaker 1: were dozens of new people hired, there was millions of
Speaker 1: dollars spent on just like technical equipment in the last
Speaker 1: three years here and even the first few years of
Speaker 1: Cohen when we thought we were getting ahead just by
Speaker 1: spending wasn't spent in the right places. We went through
Speaker 1: three general managers in a two year stretch. Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we probably didn't really have like true organized code, organizationally
Speaker 1: coded like Mantrasy had. What we were doing, like it's
Speaker 1: it takes a long time, and we keep trying to
Speaker 1: stop gap and like sending a shit ton of money
Speaker 1: and guys in the middle, and it should all be
Speaker 1: held together by Francisco Lindor and Wan so Tho if
Speaker 1: they could play games together and Boba shet. But like
Speaker 1: it's ass right now, and if it feels like as
Speaker 1: it's wasted season and you just have to hope that
Speaker 1: you can almost salvage. You could just salvage this whole
Speaker 1: thing with the Cell High, Volly's relievers, the deadline. That's
Speaker 1: fucking sad, which is really sad. This is a this
Speaker 1: is a sad met season. Remember the last episode we
Speaker 1: recorded that positive so positive? It was like what bad?
Speaker 1: What if?
Speaker 2: What if we've done that twice now and they've gone
Speaker 2: out and laid absolute eggs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but there's just there's just not to be tied together.
Speaker 1: This is so cool. So those like red Hot, I
Speaker 1: guess we didn't really, he's firm. We talked about but
Speaker 1: ben Ia was legitate on Thursday. Yeah, he was solid.
Speaker 1: He saw the pitches are all together. Now he's again
Speaker 1: to me in my mind, he's a three starter moving
Speaker 1: forward and get Christian Scott back. He's another three four starter.
Speaker 1: Nolan McLain's one, two, the five and then five. Now, Freddy, Freddy,
Speaker 1: He's not gonna be that bad. Can't be.
Speaker 2: I've seen it. I've seen it with my own two eyes.
Speaker 2: You see it with your own two eyes.
Speaker 1: Can't be that mad? The game keep getting away with this? Also,
Speaker 1: isn't it crazy? Like this guy John Duran makes almost
Speaker 1: every hitter in baseball look bad. He makes the Mets
Speaker 1: hitters look like they've never held a bat before, except
Speaker 1: when we beat him a couple of times. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: one time we beat them, But it was dribbler, wasn't it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you're doing not the same. I think it was
Speaker 1: like three walks and dribbler. We were there. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was a great game. Carson Bader hit the home run
Speaker 1: for Ryan Helsley. But yeah, just the series sucked.
Speaker 2: Series sucked, and uh, the next one is probably gonna
Speaker 2: suck too. But before we get going into it.
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Speaker 2: All right, James, what are those pitching matchups for this
Speaker 2: really fun Cub series?
Speaker 1: I think it will become a fun series. The Cubs
Speaker 1: are to get a team that has had a weird season,
Speaker 1: not bad season like the Mets, but a very strange one.
Speaker 1: What you're forgetting, though, is that they are a major
Speaker 1: League Baseball team. So yeah, tons games for sure. So
Speaker 1: Monday seven ten, four to seven Tens at City Field
Speaker 1: this week. So God, Another late podcast, Another late podcast
Speaker 1: for the fellos over here, lock me.
Speaker 2: Why can't they play during the day. The Cubs play
Speaker 2: every they play so many day games.
Speaker 1: Monday Night seven ten colda Sanga versus showed that Imanaka.
Speaker 1: That'll be fun. Wow, that'll be good. Good Japanese crowd
Speaker 1: in the house for that one. Tuesday either seven to ten,
Speaker 1: This will be fun one two. It's also gonna rain
Speaker 1: a lot in New York on Monday, so we'll see
Speaker 1: if we wind up getting a twin bill on Tuesday.
Speaker 1: But Nolan McLain versus Edward Cabrera Wednesday, this is gonna
Speaker 1: be a ninety mile an hour off Sean and I
Speaker 1: versus Javier Asad. Yeah, that is a lot of speed
Speaker 1: in that one. And then Thursday Night fun one Friday
Speaker 1: Prault against Ben Brown, who's gonna give him more runs?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Ben Brown has been awesome? Yeah, but has he been?
Speaker 2: Have you kept up at Ben Brown? Is he just
Speaker 2: doing curveballs? High curve balls again?
Speaker 1: So Ben Brown is doing like the uh he's doing
Speaker 1: like the junkyard Hunter Brown where which is funny both
Speaker 1: the same last name not his wife. A repertoire doesn't
Speaker 1: have two breaking balls, just has one, doesn't the ras harp,
Speaker 1: but still throws quite hard. He just picked up a
Speaker 1: two seamer this year, and that's just taking all the
Speaker 1: pressure off everything. Be cool if the Mets could do
Speaker 1: things like that. Now he's just he's just two seeming
Speaker 1: and curveballing. It's really really nice, even though he still
Speaker 1: throwing fifty percent fast bust the lefties, and last I checked,
Speaker 1: they had an insane slug percentage against that.
Speaker 2: So the lefties against his j ewing and Carson Bendrick
Speaker 2: gonna sit. Uh yeah, I gotta get Waghman in the line.
Speaker 1: Oh no, went way down. It was only three twenty.
Speaker 1: So like, all right, good job, good job ban.
Speaker 2: So Mark Fiento's theoretically only has to play one game
Speaker 2: this week, is what you're telling me at home. Theoretically
Speaker 2: theoretically that's my new word I'm gonna start using.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, he'll be out there for shows. So
Speaker 1: you guys were gonna see the left line up on
Speaker 1: Monday right right away. Again, cool Wagman. Fiano's hopefully not
Speaker 1: Zack Short. No, we're getting it's playing. We're Grand Francisco
Speaker 1: indoor back on Wednesday. Seems like almost guaranteed. That's exciting.
Speaker 1: That's fun. Like I'm at least feel something for Francisco
Speaker 1: Indoor coming back. Yeah, I'll watch all right. Talk about
Speaker 1: the Cubs. The Cubs, Uh, Cubs is like the first
Speaker 1: team in mine in baseball history to do something they've
Speaker 1: done this year, which I think is have a ten
Speaker 1: game winning streak the ten game losing streak in the
Speaker 1: first two months. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2: I thought your sentence was gonna be the Cubs were
Speaker 2: the first team in baseball to do something that they've done.
Speaker 1: I was like that, Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, the Cubs are a weird team to nine,
Speaker 2: like a complete rollercoaster of a season, even for their
Speaker 2: players like PCA had like a horrendous start to the year.
Speaker 1: It's one of the best.
Speaker 2: Players in baseball. Again, he's absolutely tearing the cover off
Speaker 2: the ball. He's a magician in center field. Say Suzuki
Speaker 2: still mashes. Michael Bush has started off slow, He's gotten
Speaker 2: hot again, like three to eighty on base This team
Speaker 2: is a weird But me and you like like the
Speaker 2: Cubs a lot coming into the season. Still do I
Speaker 2: still think this is one of the better teams in
Speaker 2: the National League. They're pitching is just I mean, it's
Speaker 2: fragile right now. But also that was always their biggest
Speaker 2: concerns that their rotation's not great.
Speaker 1: That was what we said about them heading into the season.
Speaker 1: The Cups fans really shit on us in the wind
Speaker 1: up for saying we didn't think this was even a
Speaker 1: top ten rotation. Easy again, fairness to them. Kate Horton
Speaker 1: going down was a very big deal. Edward Corbrera has
Speaker 1: been terrible, Matthew Boy got injured. And Justin Steele, who
Speaker 1: was kind of a part of our point, like guys
Speaker 1: come back from Tom of John surgery. Heart's rely on them.
Speaker 1: He's had two setbacks and they can't get another operation.
Speaker 1: Who knows what you get him this year. And Dana
Speaker 1: Plancy and their bullpen's been the injured list twice, so
Speaker 1: they've been running chaos ballpens lately. Base ballpens, yeah, Hoby
Speaker 1: Millner's out there, Jacob Webb and Caleb Thealbar are sharing
Speaker 1: the closer role. Phil Mayton gets huge OUs for the Cubs.
Speaker 1: Ryan Rolison is a big lefty for them. Trent Thornton
Speaker 1: is back from the dead in their bullpen. It's insane.
Speaker 1: They have a guy named Gavin Halliwell, Gavin.
Speaker 2: Hallowell you guys, he's a saint John's kid.
Speaker 1: Stop really yeah, he pitched them. I feel like he
Speaker 1: pitched against this last year. What was he on the Cubs.
Speaker 2: It's from Montgomery High School in New Jersey's be a
Speaker 2: nice homecoming for Gavin.
Speaker 1: So my bad, Gavin bad. Bet before I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: This is an outside chance that someone who knows Gavin
Speaker 1: Holliwell's listening to this podcast right now, so I want
Speaker 1: to sincerely apolog He's.
Speaker 2: Six seven sixceven.
Speaker 1: But this cup seem is fun and weird. Again, this
Speaker 1: is gonna be great series for PCA. He just loves
Speaker 1: the he loves the action. Yeah, PCA is gonna be
Speaker 1: the kind of guy who's gonna want to like do
Speaker 1: a daytime walk, like do his shopping and soho, like
Speaker 1: take a picture of Jalen Brunson.
Speaker 4: Merrill.
Speaker 1: I almost guarantee that PCA is gonna do something with
Speaker 1: something Nicks on social media this week. I like that.
Speaker 1: That's a good call.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say he will be in the MLB
Speaker 2: offices to film content at some point.
Speaker 1: If he's not someone get in the horn with him
Speaker 1: right now. Make sure that's schedule, because he filmed PCA's
Speaker 1: an electric factor PC. Also, he's doing the cool things
Speaker 1: I've seen that Coole. It's one of the funny things
Speaker 1: I've seen a baseball players do. Last week where hit
Speaker 1: for the cycle, he was on bass as either in
Speaker 1: like a close game where the run Sarah certainly matted
Speaker 1: got picked off before the next pitch was thrown. I
Speaker 1: was like, that's one of the greatest baseballs I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: And we got anything else to talk about? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't even think I brought my phone in the room. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's back behind me, charg ingim. We do have a Frankie,
Speaker 1: but I mean this guy. There's nothing else about the
Speaker 1: Cubs and anything else interesting. Do I have anything else
Speaker 1: interesting about the Cubs?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we always joked that they're the most
Speaker 2: boring team in baseball, So I really actually don't think
Speaker 2: I have anything more interesting about the chicag cub except
Speaker 2: that this week could be an audition for Freddy Peralta maybe,
Speaker 2: and it could also be an audition for Pedro Ramirez.
Speaker 1: It could be or Matt Shaw, whoever, whoever that winds
Speaker 1: up being Alex Bregman has been rough. Mataw on his
Speaker 1: big contract. Mitchell's actually played a decent outfield this year,
Speaker 1: and they've seen enough from him to to Mote Mobile
Speaker 1: who again talk about weird season. It looks like the
Speaker 1: best hit in baseball for six weeks. Really bad. They
Speaker 1: got back in Triple A. But so Matshaw was right
Speaker 1: field for them, says Zuki. Says Zuki. Also, remember he
Speaker 1: had the knee injury in WBC. I do, yeah, and
Speaker 1: then he had another knee tweak and he was terrible
Speaker 1: for like four weeks. Now I was hot again, so
Speaker 1: maybe something with him. Also, Edward Carbrera and that from
Speaker 1: that trade have a bad season, But I'm sure he'll
Speaker 1: be okay, he said. Blister blister issue for him. But yeah, Philibuster,
Speaker 1: for like a second, grab the phone, play Frankie.
Speaker 2: Yes, when you're when you're going to grab your phone,
Speaker 2: try and think of what Gavin Holloway's middle name could be.
Speaker 1: Uh ethan Wow? Really close? Really what is it? Ernest?
Speaker 1: Holy shit? I got close? He comes here comes frank
Speaker 1: Once I get my phone. Yeah, I'll fill a buster.
Speaker 1: So has everybody doing?
Speaker 2: Uh? This is one of the shorter episodes. We've done
Speaker 2: in a long time, but can you blame us?
Speaker 1: Listen?
Speaker 2: We love doing this podcast, but it is tough for
Speaker 2: right now. These are the dog days of summer.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 2: Frankie Peppers here, he said, we're just gonna listen. I said,
Speaker 2: we love doing this podcast, but this is tough watching
Speaker 2: this Mets team.
Speaker 1: It's agonizing again. You know, you guys are prospered for it.
Speaker 1: That's coming soon. I want to do a mail back soon.
Speaker 1: Then we'll do that one, and you guys keep tell
Speaker 1: us about more episodes you guys want to see. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna hammer trade deadline, of course, because now July's here,
Speaker 1: this team is ninety percent going to be sellers. We're
Speaker 1: gonna talk. Anytime you're a rumor, it's gonna be a video.
Speaker 1: Rumors are gonna be videos. I'd like to go through
Speaker 1: players under team control. I think them as should trade
Speaker 1: for with an I of twenty twenty seven, things like that.
Speaker 2: All right, let's get Frankie Pepper's on here. I need
Speaker 2: some Francis in my life.
Speaker 1: Here comes Francis. Francis listened to us fourteen second books. Nice,
Speaker 1: that's what we'll talk about. Frankie here, comes Frankie DNA.
Speaker 2: This is Frankie Peppers.
Speaker 1: Hey doing. This is the first episode of the Hot Sauce.
Speaker 1: Hot Take Sauce with Frankie Peppers. My hot take is
Speaker 1: that we stink. Thank you gentlemen. Happy Father's Day. Frankie,
Speaker 1: he's one for one. I agree with good take, agree
Speaker 1: with that take? Not hot enough. Frank Le's got a
Speaker 1: hotter take next time. I'm done. Yeah, that's it. Thanks
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Speaker 2: the next one. Peace out, Let's go Mets. M four